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WATCH: Bioethics and the New Eugenics

At first glance, bioethics might seem like just another branch of ethical philosophy where academics endlessly debate other academics about how many angels dance on the head of a pin in far-out, science fiction like scenarios.

What many do not know, however, is that the seemingly benign academic study of bioethics has its roots in the dark history of eugenics. With that knowledge, the dangers inherent in entrusting some of the most important discussions about the life, death and health of humanity in the hands of a select few become even more apparent.

For links, sources shownotes – plus a transcript and audio only version – click here.

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Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Mar 17, 2021 12:55 AM

Folks. Try to be serious.
Selection is a natural thing in emergency situations and in choices on hospitals. Its a sad thing you blow up non cases in a true hard situation as just now.
I Latin America and Africa you have 100 new patients daily arriving and 1 doctor and 1 nurse in the emergency room. So please get out to reality.

john
john
Mar 15, 2021 2:07 PM

Aren’t there two sides to eugenics? 1. Cull the “undesirables” and 2. breed for “desirables”. Clearly, the evidence is there that the depraved elite want to cull the population, but where are the breeding programs to create the people they want, presumably a small number of highly intelligent elites and elite servants, and a broader class of dull-normal worker bees.

Bezuhov
Bezuhov
Mar 15, 2021 2:18 PM
Reply to  john

Re-read Huxley’s ‘Brave New World’, where all humans are created artificially.

Read the statistics on the collapse of sperm fertility in males across the world, indicating that within 20 – 30 years, no natural births will be possible.

I think it’s pretty clear that the globalists intend to copy Huxley’s nightmare prediction.

David G Horsman
David G Horsman
Mar 10, 2021 9:57 PM

Eugenics film from 1937. Inheritance in Man.
62,335 views
Pika Grape Snack

https://youtu.be/FXZCThN2IbQ

David G Horsman
David G Horsman
Mar 10, 2021 10:00 PM

Hmmmm. Thanks…. BANG!

mauricio acosta
mauricio acosta
Mar 9, 2021 11:24 PM

So, those who decide what’s ethical are the less ethical… good work, world.

Peter
Peter
Mar 9, 2021 9:13 PM

Bad news

Biden is bad news in every way possible. Emmanuel is a monster.

Rada
Rada
Mar 9, 2021 8:41 PM

Can’t find the source, but as far as I know did the German Nazi doctors get their ideas about eugenics from the US Eugenics movement.

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Mar 9, 2021 10:20 PM
Reply to  Rada

Probably from the Belgian Congo.

Captain Spock
Captain Spock
Mar 10, 2021 5:37 PM
Reply to  Rada

There’s a film called ‘Thrive’ which details that chapter in history… There was an association..

‘Everything is a Rich Man’s Trick’ is also a documentary worth watching relative to that association.

Both films are freely available on youtube.

Cheryll T
Cheryll T
Mar 12, 2021 5:49 PM
Reply to  Captain Spock

Thank you – I’m looking for Rich Man’s Trick now. God bless.

County Girl
County Girl
Mar 14, 2021 5:27 PM
Reply to  Rada

Yes, the Nazi doctors did get their ideas from the US Eugenics movement. I believe it also said in the above film that the Rockefellers financed the Nazi Eugenics. Hitler obviously wasn’t bright enough to see he was being used to perform the US ‘experiment’ in Germany.

ger.maa
ger.maa
Mar 9, 2021 8:31 PM

The influence on political policy by this kind of academic ‘ethicist’ has been building ground in the uk really since the regime of blair. Today, it has come very much to the fore, as we witness and live out this perverted mind-scape manifested by the dead-eyed people of SAGE etc etc etc, etc……
This is an important article, not just from the bioethical premise but from ethics in general. How an increasing generation of people educated in a careerist management context who are devoid of real feeling (empathy), morality or Justness, live a life as if by painting-by-numbers, ie an automaton-anical life, based on the foundation of a godless social darwinian, deterministic meaning to life.
These are dangerous people. And we’re being increasingly dictated to by them.
I’ve been trying to find the root of this phantom menace that has taken away our freedoms over the past year.
And it’s here. In these people. The influence they have in near enough every walk of life from politics to education to health (and safety)….to the mainstream media propaganda.
These are the people, and the organisations they represent, that we need to be aiming our attention at…and with them in sight take aim and bring to justice.
For a weed to be truly dead you have to pluck out the whole root. Otherwise it’ll just keep on keeping on…..

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Mar 9, 2021 10:21 PM
Reply to  ger.maa

A weed is a merely a plant whose virtues are as yet unknown

David G Horsman
David G Horsman
Mar 10, 2021 3:29 PM
Reply to  Kiwijoker

Perhaps it is our virtues that are too narrowly defined.

fame
fame
Mar 10, 2021 4:24 AM
Reply to  ger.maa

There are many plants that you can cut below the soil service and it kills them, and many of these plants if the whole root is pulled out of the ground and are thrown back on the ground, the more the root the more likely it is capable of resprouting its roots back into the ground. Most amarantus sp. are this way. And even if they don’t reroot many amaranths are capable of maturing seeds after having been pulled out of the ground.

Another good plant that will even flower and mature seed after having been pulled is portulaca oleracea, purslane, it is also capable of rerooting. A root stem cut deep enough will keep the root part from regrowing.

Another good plant urtica dioica, stinging nettle, is good at maturing seeds quickly after being pulled out of the ground. And Good luck pulling the whole root out of the ground if it is an established plant.

These superplants are like the peasant people, always being abused, culled, unwanted and discarded. But they continue to survive.

The “dangerous people” are like machines. They can simply be unplugged or let run out of fuel. But many people, their psyches mined and machined, tend to keep them running for supposed comfort and safety.

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Mar 10, 2021 4:52 AM
Reply to  fame

Sting Nettle Soup is very good for you.

Purslane is also a beneficial herb.

And Dandelion was a plant that has sustained many cultures.

Humans are marvelous and we are all parasites of the vegetative world.

If we all became extinct tomorrow the plants would be fine.

If the plants all went extinct tomorrow… we would follow in no time at all.

Guess which kingdom is the ruler of this world? (hint: it isn’t any member of the animal kingdom)

fame
fame
Mar 10, 2021 9:07 AM
Reply to  Kiwijoker

My favorite is the amaranth greens, red-rooted pigweed, in Mexico its called Quelites, in Jamaica its called Callaloo, In India its called….China, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Zimbabwe, etc. (I don’t remember all the names nor could I even spell them) probably the most widely eaten green in the world. Europeans don’t seem to know the plant. I even met some Aboriginal Aussies who knew the plant.

There are fields of organic dandelions where I now live. The unopened flower buds are especially delicious and have a nice texture in a stir fry, like a broccoli bud. We make a beautiful bright yellow pesto with the open flower buds.

Joker, you really are a fun guy. But this kingdom thing…I don’t know.. kinda weird concept I don’t try to live in.

A friend sent this the other day. Maybe you’ll like it I haven’t watched it. Don’t know if its any good.



Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Mar 10, 2021 5:40 PM
Reply to  fame

Thank you. Fascinating video symposium’

You may find this interesting…



DomoebaMalingera
DomoebaMalingera
Mar 13, 2021 9:53 AM
Reply to  Kiwijoker

Very interesting, the mushroom knowledge, but this Ted Talk like all of them are Clowns In America propaganda programmes and are nothing but green(DOD PR) wash to cover up things like the so called ‘energy crisis’ etc
And it backs up the vax BS1984 scamdemic flu d’etat PsyOp.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Mar 9, 2021 7:07 PM

Scientists identify over 140,000 virus species in the human gut, half of which are new to science — Wellcome Sanger Institute

The paper, published today (18 February 2021) in Cell, contains an analysis of over 28,000 gut microbiome samples collected in different parts of the world. The number and diversity of the viruses the researchers found was surprisingly high, and the data opens up new research avenues for understanding how viruses living in the gut affect human health.

Using a DNA-sequencing method called metagenomics*, researchers… identified over 140,000 viral species living in the human gut, more than half of which have never been seen before.

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Mar 10, 2021 5:01 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

.. And yet no virus has ever been isolated/purified….

Have they?

Researcher
Researcher
Mar 12, 2021 6:13 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

There are no viruses. Don’t put links up to junk genomics papers.

Metagenomics is fraud and it’s being used to perpetrate the entirety of the covid fraud. It’s not science. It’s a software program.

October
October
Mar 9, 2021 6:46 PM

For those of you who understand the language (automatic English subtitles not very good, surprise, surprise), this French lawyer is beginning to poke his nose into the goings-on in hospitals and care homes.

This is not MSM, but he is not a marginal figure either.

He speaks of how the assisted dying law was misused to commit crimes, and how there is a risk that its safeguards could gradually be removed.

Joerg
Joerg
Mar 9, 2021 3:57 PM

I am deeeeeply shocked!
Thanks to James Corbett!

Joerg
Joerg
Mar 9, 2021 4:46 PM
Reply to  Joerg

Aside from the fact that you have oppose this development for reasons of massive moral objections, there are other points:
You have to take life as it is comes to you (God believers would say “given to you”). You can’t just kill a handicapped baby in order to have a better life!
Like, let’s say you have a neighbour, who is too loud. And you know you could kill him and no one would find out – it would still be wrong!
.
Another point: These disgusting “scientists” are MATERIALISTS to the bone. They never ask themselves where they came from and why they exist. They never ask themselves where they will go to, when they cease to exist. But you must be able to answer these questions, if you want to know what to do in this life and what not(!) to do.
Their assumption that you can just ‘pick out all raisins from the cake’ (or kill someone, who is in your way) and when you die all is over and this was it, is perversely stupid!
If they would contemplate about “where do I come from” and “where will I go to” they would understand that this life is a totally interconnected “system”. What you do or not do is minting not only the life now but also what follows this life
(This from my Buddhist point of view)
 

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Mar 9, 2021 10:27 PM
Reply to  Joerg

Yet…

When anthropologists first saw Eskimoes leave a baby on the ice and walked away from it leaving it to die they were outraged.

Yet that baby would’ve caused the collapse of the Eskimo families ability to survive in those climes.

In ancient Rome when a baby was born the father looked it over for defects. If any were found the baby would be dispatched on the spot.

Cultural comparativism and the tragedy of the commons.

David G Horsman
David G Horsman
Mar 10, 2021 3:38 PM
Reply to  Kiwijoker

I forget the author. “A society is as compassionate as it can afford to be.” No! I would instead stand with thee. We will die together. Brothers and sisters in arms with our inadequate spawn.

Edwige
Edwige
Mar 9, 2021 10:43 PM
Reply to  Joerg

“Another point: These disgusting “scientists” are MATERIALISTS to the bone. They never ask themselves where they came from and why they exist. They never ask themselves where they will go to, when they cease to exist”.

While this is probably true of the lower and mid-ranking functionaries, I wouldn’t assume this is the case with the top scientists (let alone those who ultimately give the orders). Robert Lomas showed the Royal Society was founded by Freemasons. Lomas himself was a Freemason so he isn’t saying this as a conspiracy, he thinks it’s a good thing. Many very famous scientists turn out to have esoteric beliefs when you look into them (Newton and alchemy most famously).

Some scientists are almost certainly Luciferians, they want to become gods. A few are probably outright Satanists. Some are gnostics, they think God screwed up and they can improve on His handiwork (the direct line to eugenicist thinking here should be obvious). The elite seem to have a weird fascination with older gods (like Moloch, statue at Bohemian Grove). Even beliefs that may seem more benign could be factors here e.g. a belief in reincarnation could justify killing people off because, hey, the body is just a shell and their souls will be back!

Howard
Howard
Mar 9, 2021 3:22 PM

I’d like to link to something from Dane Wigington’s geoengineeringwatch.org. I realize many if not most of OFG’s readers do not accept climate change or climate engineering. However, this was a most unusual episode of the Global Alert News (March 6, 2021): a huge part of it was about Bill Gates. It’s 57 minutes long.

Having previously watched James Corbett’s series on Gates, I found this this to be an excellent companion – in fact, there’s much here that was not in Corbett’s reports on Gates.

https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/geoengineering-watch-global-alert-news-march-6-2021-291/

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Mar 9, 2021 4:10 PM
Reply to  Howard

Thank you Howard. Mr Wigington has been attempting to expose these issues for nearly 15 years. Like many others, he’s been heavily censored in the media and ignored by an intentionally distracted public. I’ve posted links to his page (and other anti-geoengineering sites) many times. Readers refuse to consider the importance of the information.

Lab test results from various locations: >

GEOENGINEERING POLLUTION FOOTPRINTS:
ZG Lab Tests • Zero Geoengineering

Edwige
Edwige
Mar 9, 2021 4:19 PM
Reply to  Howard

“climate change or climate engineering”.

These are very different things – why have you bracketed them together like this? The former in the sense the MSM is a manifest lie with obvious Covid parallels; the latter is very real (nobody draws up international treaties against things that are impossible) but what exactly they can do remains a matter of speculation. Certainly the evidence, for example, that hurricanes can be intensified and steered looks quite compelling.

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Mar 9, 2021 10:30 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Or how about arrays of microwave towers spinning water molecules through alternating polarities?

(PS you’re mostly water… and so is much of our planet/atmosphere)

David G Horsman
David G Horsman
Mar 10, 2021 3:47 PM
Reply to  Howard

While climate science is in it’s early days (50 yrs) there can be no doubt man is devastating the environment. It’s the politicization that I see as the issue.

fame
fame
Mar 9, 2021 3:17 PM

This article is a type of article I imagine might be posted here at OffG. Maybe a good one to send to some old leftist friend “believers”.
https://dissidentvoice.org/2021/03/the-psychic-dangers-of-infected-minds-with-a-lie-this-large/
An excerpt from the decent article with many good links.
“As a fitting coda to our ruminations then, the following might be appropriate. Insofar as COVID goes—and any plot dreamed up by hidden agenda-driven intriguers and schemers designed to serve their own interests or those in whose service they’re being amply rewarded—we’re looking down the barrel of not so much a medical, health, and/or social crisis (as bespoke as it is). We’re facing nothing less than what we might term a blood poisoning of the body politic.
It’s all but a fait accompli that we now accept it is their interests that will always come first. Although to some extent trust in our political, public and private institutions has declined precipitously, this half-assed realisation is too little, too late. We rarely seem to stop what we’re doing and consider the implications of that. Until that mistrust is converted into critical mass action, we’re on a hiding to nothing.”

David G Horsman
David G Horsman
Mar 10, 2021 3:52 PM
Reply to  fame

Might I add there are the physical dangers of these fascists putting you in confinement if not camps. Canada has a never ending love affair with camps. But you are only in danger if you can’t pay the hotel bill.

Dante
Dante
Mar 9, 2021 2:03 PM

DNR Forms…

Bezuhov
Bezuhov
Mar 9, 2021 2:00 PM

Bill Gates declared that investing in vaccines yielded him 20 times bigger profits than any previous investments he made.

But to realize his dream of forcing the entire world’s population to be injected with his vaccines – and then, to be injected again and again until they died, he realized that he would need to corrupt all key politicians, health scientists, and to corrupt the entire mainstream media.

So, he set up the Bill Gates Foundation – and did just that.

Meanwhile, his side-kick Fauci looked after the other side of the operation: creating a virus which would spread across the world – and with the all-out support of the media and governments to hype it up into a ‘crisis’ with fake death statistics and fake and meaningless ‘cases’ numbers, to keep that fake ‘crisis’ going – for ever.

Five years ago, Fauci personally approved $3.5 million funding for the Wuhan laboratory to create a DNA-manipulated version of the bat Corona virus which could cross the species barrier into humans. They did just that – and it was duly released on schedule, just after Gates had held an international conference simulating a ‘Corona virus pandemic’.

Gates resigned as Microsoft Chairman just days after the first Covid 19 deaths appeared in China – knowing that with the assistance of the Chinese government in keeping all flights going to the rest of the world, the virus would quickly sweep across the world.

Gates said, after resigning from Microsoft, that he was now going to be concentrating on his vaccine business.

And now, his pay day has arrived – with all key politicians, health scientists and virtually the entire mainstream media of the world signed up to keep this totally manufactured ‘Corona crisis’ going – for ever.

Jacques
Jacques
Mar 9, 2021 12:20 PM

I’m getting extremely sick of the “official” world. Not that I haven’t been pretty much all my life. But I’ve managed to fly under the radar and avoid such atrocious things as slavery masked as employment and lots and lots of other things most people have been brainwashed to accept as an integral, normal part of life.

This horseshit is too much, however. Luckily, I haven’t had much reason to seek medical attention in years, but should I need to see a doctor, I don’t know if I could make myself to. I’d rather croak on my own than be at the mercy of some white-coat motherfucker.

Somehow, society considers it “progress” that people live longer, that the average age is getting higher. I don’t know about that. Wouldn’t happiness achieved by a person during his or her lifetime be a better metric? How is it better to live a long fucked up life than to live a life of fulfillment, happiness, and contentment that might and earlier?

The values generally embraced by people in present-day society are pretty fucked up. We run around like fucking rabbits in trying to live up to a bunch of scripted mandatory achievements, stress ourselves out most of the fucking time.

The more I look at the shit that’s unfolding, the more it’s obvious to me that it’s not about rejecting this utterly ridiculous non-pandemic but rejecting the very foundation of how this fucked up civilization functions. Especially the notion that progress is inevitable and that progress is equal to technological progress. Fuck that.

As to eugenics, here is something by my favorite cripple, easily the greatest pianist in history.

Edwige
Edwige
Mar 9, 2021 4:33 PM
Reply to  Jacques

“should I need to see a doctor, I don’t know if I could make myself to”.

I’ve thrice had cause to see doctors in the last eight years (once post-lockdown which I was dreading – but it wasn’t too irksome). On two occasions I was recommended to have surgery. Both times I declined and said I’d try changes to diet and lifestyle first which have done the trick (so far!).

My view is that finding out what allopathic medicine says isn’t a problem. The problem is falling for the lifelong conditioning and believing you have to do what they say. Allopathic medicine, I’ve come to believe, is almost entirely about symptom suppression while your body does the actual healing. If the symptoms are unendurable then this is useful. If however a symptom is bearable and part of the body’s healing process (like I believe a fever is) then this is to be avoided.

Jacques
Jacques
Mar 9, 2021 4:44 PM
Reply to  Edwige

When I was a kid, my mum once told me not to worry when something hurts, most pains go away on their own. The thoughtful little me asked, what about the pains that don’t go away on their own, eh? Mother didn’t miss a beat and retorted, well, they’ll probably go away on their own too. Okay, I said.

I’ve been living by this wisdom for 56 years and it’s worked just fine.

Max
Max
Mar 10, 2021 1:45 PM
Reply to  Jacques

I am one of those white-coat m…..f…. and been trying to promote homeopathic medicine instead of allopathic, however, it hasn’t been an easy task as almost all my newly qualified colleagues look at me as I have 2 heads!!!

Ramdan
Ramdan
Mar 10, 2021 4:43 PM
Reply to  Jacques

“it’s not about rejecting this utterly ridiculous non-pandemic but rejecting the very foundation of how this fucked up civilization functions.”

That’s it!!!

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Youtube_censors_unfortuna
Mar 11, 2021 7:52 PM
Reply to  Jacques

The comments under Off Guardian articles are better than the article itself. That’s why I always read the most thumbs upvoted comment to improve my understanding. about what’s really happening around us. Keep up the good commenting!

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Mar 9, 2021 11:18 AM

Watched this last night – and yet again, another excellent piece of work from The Corbett Report👍
Just mind boggling the depths of evil some on this planet have sunk too.
Their pathological lack of empathy or compassion; how they regard other human beings as ‘useless eaters’ or ‘bugs’ that they believe need to be dealt with.
What was the term? Death Panels.
I was also reminded of Part 4 of the Who is Bill Gates series TCR put out last year as I watched this.
And we also see this same evil at work in the scamdemic psyops and the pushing of these experimental gene therapies being marketed as ‘vaccines’.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Mar 9, 2021 7:04 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Would it be cruel to state that a certain dictator got his commupence yesterday?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Mar 9, 2021 8:14 PM

It’s called Karma, Marilyn. Given what happened here last year, and the immense amount of suffering and misery and deaths this psychopath is directly responsible for, I have no sympathy at all.

Edwige
Edwige
Mar 9, 2021 10:17 AM

It wasn’t of course just GBS who loved his eugenics, here’s D.H. Lawrence in 1908:

“If I had my way, I would build a lethal chamber as big as the Crystal Palace, with a military band playing softly, and a Cinematograph working brightly; then I’d go out in the back streets and main streets and bring them in, all the sick, the halt, and the maimed; I would lead them gently, and they would smile me a weary thanks.”

Lawrence’s eugenics was perhaps slightly different in that it was more aimed at those he believed spiritually and sexually inadequate rather than the supposedly scientific-rationalist eugenics of GBS. Whether that makes it better or worse is a matter of debate. In this sense LADY CHATTERLEY is a profoundly eugenicist work, not some hymn to sexual liberation as pro-Lawrence dupes believe. Yet again a slightly deeper look reveals that the sacred totems of the 1960s’ counterculture are not what they were presented as being.

Funny how both GBS and Lawrence were both required reading in English Literature when I was doing O- and A-Levels in the late 1970s. Everyone loathed them yet we had to read and re-read them. Just a coincidence…. of course.

Edwige
Edwige
Mar 9, 2021 9:35 AM

Trying to fuse together their big two agendas is their dream:

“As we continue to encroach upon the natural world, and unless we take action, it is only a matter of time before we experience another COVID-19”.

https://www.preventingfuturepandemics.org/

Unsurprisingly the Fraudian is pushing this hard again this morning (although still below Harry and Meghan…. ).

Edwige
Edwige
Mar 9, 2021 9:37 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Although this morning’s award for “Most Fraudian Headline of the Morning” goes to:

BioNTech co-founder says gender equality made vaccine possible

Howard
Howard
Mar 9, 2021 3:28 PM
Reply to  Edwige

In the most ironically disgusting manner possible, it may be somewhat true that “gender equality made vaccine possible.” There was a time when men would never consent to be vaccinated. Now it’s de rigueur among men to get stabbed.

Sean Veeda
Sean Veeda
Mar 9, 2021 8:33 AM

I received the letter yesterday, inviting me to make an appointment to get jabbed. I read the accompanying booklet and was mildly surprised. It said:

You should have the COVID-19 vaccine if you are:

followed by 7 bullet points, none of which apply to most under 65s. It went on:

The vaccine will also be offered to adults with conditions such as:

followed by 17 severe conditions, again none of which apply to most under 65s.

Conclusion: the official line is that most under 65s don’t need the vaccine. So don’t make an appointment!

fame
fame
Mar 9, 2021 9:46 AM
Reply to  Sean Veeda

Regardless of age, if you subject yourself to vaccination, you are subjecting yourself to partake in a eugenics experiment. So don’t make an appointment, no matter what your age or health status!

Sean Veeda
Sean Veeda
Mar 9, 2021 12:41 PM
Reply to  fame

Sure, but the point I’m making is that the government isn’t even recommending under 65s get vaccinated except in these exceptional circumstances. This is at odds with what the media is telling us.

fame
fame
Mar 9, 2021 1:14 PM
Reply to  Sean Veeda

Yes, good point, a lot of what the gov’t recommends is at odds, often strangely with itself, and with what the main shit media and is telling people.

Ort
Ort
Mar 9, 2021 8:52 PM
Reply to  Sean Veeda

Yes, I received your letter yesterday
(About the time the doorknob broke)
When you asked how I was doing
Was that some kind of joke?
All these people that you mention
Yes, I know them, they’re quite lame
I had to rearrange their faces
And give them all another name
Right now I can’t read too good
Don’t send me no more letters, no
Not unless you mail them
From Desolation Row

— Bob Dylan, “Desolation Row” (1965)

October
October
Mar 9, 2021 8:24 AM

The fact these people are not ridiculed out of the room says a lot about our societies. They are like the deluded of Davos – one is struck by their utter mediocrity.

Simon Dutton
Simon Dutton
Mar 9, 2021 11:48 AM
Reply to  October

Yes – nobody shouts out: “Who are YOU to decide?”

Freeborn John
Freeborn John
Mar 9, 2021 7:01 AM

Dementia, Disability and Frailty
21/6/2020.
Beginning in the second half of 1941, mostly among the prisoners in the “rewir” or camp hospital, SS doctors began carrying out the selection of Auschwitz prisoners, during which they put to death those prisoners they regarded as unfit for labor because of terminal exhaustion or sickness. They killed these prisoners by lethal injection of phenol to the heart, or sent them to the gas chamber. This practice was halted in the spring of 1943.

Covid19 rapid guidelines for adults.
NICE guideline (NG159) 20/3/20

https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/ng159

On admission Assess ALL ADULTS for frailty, use the CFS.

Consider co morbidities and underlying health in ALL cases.

Record the frailty assessment on the patient’s record.

The CFS, is the “clinical frailty scale”, although it is referred to more accurately as a clinical frailty score.

This was developed as a reliable predictor of outcomes for geriatric patients.

https://youtu.be/Dsc3RIjJZ5E

It is stressed quite clearly that the CFS was for geriatric patients over the age of 65, and it was inappropriate to use the CFS for patients under 65.

“Consider comorbidities and underlying health in all cases”.

Clearly having an underlying health issue for example being overweight,having a high alcohol intake or maybe smoking is not going to move your “score” down, but the inference is that it may move your score up, from perhaps a 4 to a 5 , vulnerable to maybe mildly frail ?

Now remember,NG159, the assessment is done on admission to hospital it.is done to all adults and is entered into your medical record.
A CFS can be carried out by ANY suitably trained health care professional.
That means someone not necessarily a doctor nor a nurse, just someone who has been on a course has entered a score on your record.

Covid19 nice guidelines for adults ng159, 20/3/20.

ADMISSION TO CRITICAL CARE.

With a CFS of less than five
The patient will be offered critical care they should If possible discuss the risks,benefits and possible outcomes with the patient, family or carer.
They will take into account underlying pathologies and comorbidities and the likelihood of achieving desired outcomes

With a CFS of five or more,you will be denied critical care.
Your carers and family will get “the talk”, a DNR is virtually a certainty. Denied critical care, sedated or “made comfortable”with a DNR the outlook is for a less than optimum outcome.

Clearly those questions you answered on arrival, that number entered into your into your medical record now has a huge impact on your “care pathway” and the chances of an optimal outcome from your “stressor event”

( Yes they really talk like that, .the NICE website is written in that esoteric language of acronyms and synonyms.
For example exploring their site is referred to as
” Taking the nice pathway ” ).

So a score of five or more on the CFS is high enough to deny you critical care.

Five means.mildly frail.
It means your displaying evidence of slowing up
You may be in need of help with high order IADL’s eg financials , transportation and heavy housework.

“High Order Instrumental Activities for Daily Living.means driving or using public transport, budget balancing, heavy housework, presumably moving heavy furniture for example

To be honest some people have never mastered some of these skills, but should we deny them critical care ?

Being mildly frail, you do not require any home help, stairs and bathing are not a problem, you can live independently.

Indeed someone who needs occasional help would score six on a CFS and be classed moderately frail.

If you were completely dependent but stable and not at high risk of dying you would score seven.

It is not justifiable to deny someone who scores five on a CFS critical care.
Nor is it ethically or morally right to issue a DNR or these people

To do so should be considered a criminal offence, and to issue guidelines to do so is heinous.

Questions must be answered.

Does Professor Rockwood know the CFS are being applied to non-geriatrics and a score of five is considered a suitable threshold for denial of critical care, does he think this is an appropriate use of CFS ?

If so, who moved this threshold?

How many people admitted to UK hospitals who scored less than seven ( the original threshold ) have been denied critical care or issued with DNR’s ?

How was it decided to apply CFS to all adult patients ?

How was this decision made ?

What oversight was there, was this a clinical or a political decision ?

Arby
Arby
Mar 9, 2021 12:22 PM
Reply to  Freeborn John

Good questions.

Neil MacLeod
Neil MacLeod
Mar 9, 2021 5:54 AM

Tell ya what assholes. If “we” don’t spend — “you” don’t have revenue. Think about that. Capisce? Get back you me when your pea brain groks it. Yeh you, Gates!

Bezuhov
Bezuhov
Mar 9, 2021 2:07 PM
Reply to  Neil MacLeod

Not true, at all.

The oligarchs and their puppet politicians and governments have all borrowed ‘on behalf of their country’ trillions – pretending that this is done for the ‘Covid crisis’ which they and the media themselves created.

And they have transferred those vast sums over to the global corporations and oligarchs already making hundreds of billions from the ‘Covid tests’ and the pretend ‘vaccines’.

The long planned ‘Corona crisis’ is, like the ‘Climate Crisis’, ‘Carbon Zero’ and the ‘Great Reset’, simply a Big lie operation to transfer unimaginably vast amounts of money from the 99.9% to the 0.1%.

Kiwijoker
Kiwijoker
Mar 9, 2021 10:34 PM
Reply to  Bezuhov

As are every war.

War is eugenics.

NickM
NickM
Mar 9, 2021 4:30 AM

Eugenics and Other Evils, by GK.Chesterton, 1922.

“This amazingly prophetic book—“

wardropper
wardropper
Mar 9, 2021 4:15 AM

Horrific.

Any person possessing not only intelligence, but also the qualities of a viable human being, can see how shabby, undisciplined and iniquitous the arguments of these eugenicists are, but we must also face the fact that, to them, their arguments make perfect sense.

I propose a morally-sound life panel which will judge them in exactly the same way as they wish to use a death panel to judge, and sentence, those human beings whom they consider unworthy of life – not that they could ever find the time, or would have the inclination to deal on a personal basis with every such case…
But they are relatively few, and I think we could do a pretty good Nuremberg job on them.

Their wicked arguments, which are shrouded in fake concern for our species, would be pulled apart by the best and most articulate of our race, and the glaring logical and moral omissions in their pronouncements would be floodlit for all to see. (If I can see them, then we certainly have decent legal and ethical experts who could see them too)

The punishments meted out would be of the severest nature ever inflicted upon prominent individuals, on account of the tremendous responsibility they bore as influential ‘authorities’ in fields requiring real expertise (or at least a working knowledge of what a human being actually is), and on account of their evil abuse of that responsibility.

Perhaps even hitherto-unknown punishments would have to be devised, to reflect the revolting nature of their perverted thinking? At any rate, a deterrent for the ages is clearly required here.

I am truly astonished that the human race could ever produce whole gangs of such filth.
One or two extremely sick individuals would have been bad enough, but I suppose it has always been the case that the worst of our kind has always been able to find, and hide behind, others who are the same…

Corbett has really dug up some terrible truths here.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Mar 9, 2021 8:52 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Agree with every line you wrote W. My hat goes off to James Corbett for the excellent work he does uncovering these slimebags.

Maxwell
Maxwell
Mar 9, 2021 2:54 AM

The psychosis has been artfully manufactured turning the flu into the bubonic plague – and most fell for the nonsense. To the point of mass psychosis.

Bi Pharma is a legalized drug cartel, murdering innocents and threatening or smearing those who counter them. In fact Pharma is the principle racket today, even more so than the military complex. Tightly controlled by the financial aristocracy, staffed with millions of well-drilled ‘front line troops’, covertly supplying them their every need from huge profits to depopulation.

Their lobbyists use blood money to infiltrate every sector of government at the highest level. Our collective health is prostituted to them and we each have to reclaim it.

“Man’s consciously lived fragility, individuality and relatedness make the experience of pain, of sickness and of death an integral part of his life. The ability to cope with this trio autonomously is fundamental to his health. As he becomes dependent on the management of his intimacy, he renounces his autonomy and his health must decline.”

Ivan Illich, Medical Nemesis.

Peter
Peter
Mar 9, 2021 1:21 AM

Rahm Emmanuel’s Brother ?

What could possibly go wrong ? I’ll watch the documentary this evening.

wardropper
wardropper
Mar 9, 2021 4:29 AM
Reply to  Peter

Good grief, I thought Rahm was bad enough.
This one is Rosemary’s Baby, all grown up…

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Mar 9, 2021 10:41 AM
Reply to  wardropper

And yet people have been taught to believe that Polanski is innocent of the 1969 murders.

wardropper
wardropper
Mar 9, 2021 2:13 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

I don’t think people give a fuck about Polanski – at least I doubt they would be surprised at anything which might come to light about him in the future.
At least he isn’t dictating policy.

shot them down
shot them down
Mar 9, 2021 12:22 AM

excellent piece again…. so by now i’d imagine your aware uncle billys intravenous phase 2 has been deployed, and this winter the bodies will be piling up

wardropper
wardropper
Mar 9, 2021 4:27 AM
Reply to  shot them down

Do you think he has planned for the impact of all those bodies upon the group-soul of our human race?
The churches will be overwhelmed by funerals, and families will have 40 seconds each to dispose of their dearest departed…

Edwige
Edwige
Mar 9, 2021 9:03 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Dying on a nominated day will be presented as one of the Luciferian victories over God, man will become God by deciding when he dies. This will probably be combined with some sort of disguised human sacrifice ritual a la ‘Logan’s Run’.

Meanwhile, they’ll continue to make millions by gambling on when you die in the human futures’ market.

Arby
Arby
Mar 9, 2021 12:43 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Most of the world believes what I call the Lie: 1. biological evolution 2. the force belief (which didn’t originate with George Lucas)

Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (a Jesuit priest and paleontologist) wrote about the noosphere. The idea (expressed in different language by other writers like Theodore Roszak and Marlyn Ferguson) is that once humankind had evolved to a certain point, it began to generate a group mind, the noosphere. It’s been a while since I read his stuff (and I’ve lost all of those books due to moving around from room to room), but he draws our attention to Omega point, which, he ‘explains’, both draws us and is our final evolutionary stage.

Do people believe that? You can believe that without realizing it. You might not know about Theodore’s writing but if you were to stop and think about what you do believe, What would that look like? What has society, through all of it’s institutions (education, Hollywood, health care system, everything), led you to believe? Do you believe that there’s an actual Creator? Do you believe that everything is connected (the force belief)? Teilhard taught that everything is connected via tangential energy and radial energy. Tangential energy is physical. Radial energy (which he may or may not regard as physical; I don’t know) goes through everything’s center and is the evolutionary energy.

I also found elements of theosophy in Teilhard’s views. A priest who rejects the Christian Bible is nothing unusual. The world is full of professional scam artists.Teilhard wasn’t the first such scam artist and they didn’t die with him.

Now, I don’t have a problem with people not believing the way I do. I’m pro human rights and I’m just not hostile. But I do think that surviving mankind (surviving Armageddon, which is very, very close) is due for some serious correction in this department. Everyone who is imperfect – which means everyone – is due for correction by God, precisely because we are imperfect and the world we were born into is ruined and in darkness. We’ve been lied to, about many, many things (knowingly and unknowingly), by EVERYONE since the day we were born.

wardropper
wardropper
Mar 9, 2021 2:20 PM
Reply to  Arby

Chardin is an interesting read, but my take has been that the ‘group mind’ is what we started with way back in Old Testament days, and what is happening now is the struggle to achieve true individuality while maintaining a compassionate view towards those who can’t evolve that far just yet.
Of course what Chardin may have had in mind is the idea that after a long spell as emancipated individuals, we may return to a group mind, but with the advantages of the lessons learned in that earlier age…
Just a thought.

Arby
Arby
Mar 9, 2021 2:22 PM
Reply to  wardropper

It’s been a while, but I read a lot about de Chardin. He meant ‘group mind’ literally.

wardropper
wardropper
Mar 9, 2021 4:26 PM
Reply to  Arby

Or at least as literally as a man who was, essentially, a mystic, could mean.
But I can’t claim to have read much of his work. For me, it seems too arbitrary in general, although there is plenty of food for thought in what I have seen.

wardropper
wardropper
Mar 9, 2021 4:36 PM
Reply to  Arby

Yes, we have been lied to, but that isn’t the crux of the matter for me.
Taking Christ as the relevant Teacher for modern man, I would say He points the way to a direct relationship with Himself, and thence with God.

The significance of this seems to be that we could participate more fully in the spiritual world, where earthbound lying simply has no relevance or meaning, so that we cease to be interested in the material possessions which lead people to envy each other, using mendacity to outdo each other, and all in the pursuit of money and power.