On The Psychology Of The Conspiracy Denier
A closer look at the class that mocks.
Tim Foyle
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Why is it that otherwise perfectly intelligent, thoughtful and rationally minded people baulk at the suggestion that sociopaths are conspiring to manipulate and deceive them? And why will they defend this ill-founded position with such vehemence?
History catalogues the machinations of liars, thieves, bullies and narcissists and their devastating effects. In modern times too, evidence of corruption and extraordinary deceptions abound.
We know, without question, that politicians lie and hide their connections and that corporations routinely display utter contempt for moral norms – that corruption surrounds us.
We know that revolving doors between the corporate and political spheres, the lobbying system, corrupt regulators, the media and judiciary mean that wrongdoing is practically never brought to any semblance of genuine justice.
We know that the press makes noise about these matters occasionally but never pursues them with true vigour.
We know that in the intelligence services and law enforcement wrongdoing on a breathtaking scale is commonplace and that, again, justice is never forthcoming.
We know that governments repeatedly ignore or trample on the rights of the people, and actively abuse and mistreat the people. None of this is controversial.
So exactly what is it that conspiracy deniers refuse to acknowledge with such fervour, righteousness and condescension? Why, against all the evidence, do they sneeringly and contemptuously defend the crumbling illusion that ‘the great and good’ are up there somewhere, have everything in hand, have only our best interests at heart, and are scrupulous, wise and sincere? That the press serves the people and truth rather than the crooks? That injustice after injustice result from mistakes and oversights, and never from that dread word: conspiracy?
What reasonable person would continue to inhabit such a fantasy world?
The point of disagreement here is only on the matter of scale. Someone who is genuinely curious about the plans of powerful sociopaths won’t limit the scope of their curiosity to, for example, one corporation, or one nation. Why would they? Such a person assumes that the same patterns on display locally are likely to be found all the way up the power food chain. But the conspiracy denier insists this is preposterous.
Why?
It is painfully obvious that the pyramidical societal and legal structures that humanity has allowed to develop are exactly the kind of dominance hierarchies that undoubtedly favour the sociopath. A humane being operating with a normal and healthy cooperative mindset has little inclination to take part in the combat necessary to climb a corporate or political ladder.
So what do conspiracy deniers imagine the 70 million or more sociopaths in the world do all day, born into a ‘game’, in which all the wealth and power are at the top of the pyramid, while the most effective attributes for ‘winning’ are ruthlessness and amorality? Have they never played Monopoly?
Sociopaths do not choose their worldview consciously, and are simply unable to comprehend why normal people would put themselves at such an incredible disadvantage by limiting themselves with conscientiousness and empathy, which are as beyond the understanding of the sociopath as a world without them are to the humane being.
All the sociopath need do to win in the game is lie publicly whilst conspiring privately. What could be simpler? In 2021, to continue to imagine that the world we inhabit is not largely driven by this dynamic amounts to reckless naiveté bordering on insanity. Where does such an inadvertently destructive impulse originate?
The infant child places an innate trust in those it finds itself with – a trust which is, for the most part, essentially justified. The infant could not survive otherwise.
In a sane and healthy society, this deep instinct would evolve as the psyche developed. As self-awareness, the cognitive and reasoning abilities and scepticism evolved in the individual, this innate trust impulse would continue to be understood as a central need of the psyche. Shared belief systems would exist to consciously evolve and develop this childish impulse in order to place this faith somewhere consciously – in values and beliefs of lasting meaning and worth to the society, the individual, or, ideally, both.
Reverence and respect for tradition, natural forces, ancestors, for reason, truth, beauty, liberty, the innate value of life, or the initiating spirit of all things, might all be considered valid resting places in which to consciously place our trust and faith – as well as those derived from more formalised belief systems.
Regardless of the path taken to evolve and develop a personal faith, it is the bringing of one’s own consciousness and cognition to this innate impulse that is relevant here. I believe this is a profound responsibility – to develop and cultivate a mature faith – which many are, understandably, unaware of.
What occurs when there is a childish need within us which has never evolved beyond its original survival function of trusting those in our environment who are, simply, the most powerful; the most present and active? When we have never truly explored our own psyches, and deeply interrogated what we truly believe and why? When our motivation for trusting anything or anyone goes unchallenged? When philosophy is left to the philosophers?
I suggest the answer is simple, and that the evidence of this phenomenon and the havoc it is wreaking is all around us: the innate impulse to trust the mother never evolves, never encounters and engages with its counterbalance of reason (or mature faith), and remains forever on its ‘default’ infant setting.
While the immature psyche no longer depends on parents for its well-being, the powerful and motivating core tenet I have described remains intact: unchallenged, unconsidered and undeveloped. And, in a world in which stability and security are distant memories, these survival instincts, rather than being well-honed, considered, relevant, discerning and up to date, remain, quite literally, those of a baby. Trust is placed in the biggest, loudest, most present and undeniable force around, because instinct decrees that survival depends on it.
And, in this great ‘world nursery’, the most omnipresent force is the network of institutions which consistently project an unearned image of power, calm, expertise, concern and stability.
In my view, this is how conspiracy deniers are able to cling to and aggressively defend the utterly illogical fantasy that somehow – above a certain undefined level of the societal hierarchy – corruption, deceit, malevolence and narcissism mysteriously evaporate. That, contrary to the maxim, the more power a person has, the more integrity they will inevitably exhibit. These poor deluded souls essentially believe that where personal experience and prior knowledge cannot fill in the gaps in their worldview – in short, where there is a barred door – mummy and daddy are behind it, working out how best to ensure that their little precious will be comfortable, happy and safe forever.
This is the core, comforting illusion at the root of the conspiracy denier’s mindset, the decrepit foundation upon which they build a towering castle of justification from which to pompously jeer at and mock those who see otherwise.
This explains why it is that the conspiracy denier will attack any suggestion that the caregiving archetype is no longer present – that sociopaths are behind the barred door, who hold us all in utter contempt or disregard us completely. The conspiracy denier will attack any such suggestion as viciously as if their survival depended on it – which, in a way, within the makeup of their unconscious and precarious psyche, it does.
Their sense of well-being, of security, of comfort, even of a future at all, is completely (and completely unconsciously) invested in this fantasy. The infant has never matured, and, because they are not conscious of this, other than as a deep attachment to their personal security, they will fiercely attack any threat to this unconscious and central aspect of their worldview.
The tediously common refrain from the conspiracy denier is, ‘there couldn’t be a conspiracy that big’.
The simple retort to such a self-professed expert on conspiracies is obvious: how big?
The biggest ‘medical’ corporations in the world can go for decades treating the settling of court cases as mere business expenses, for crimes ranging from the suppressing of adverse test events to multiple murders resulting from undeclared testing to colossal environmental crimes.
Governments perform the vilest and most unthinkable ‘experiments’ (crimes) on their own people without consequence.
Politicians habitually lie to our faces, without consequence.
And on and on. At what point, exactly, does a conspiracy become so big that ‘they’ just couldn’t get away with it, and why? I suggest it’s at the point where the cognitive ability of the conspiracy denier falters, and their unconscious survival instinct kicks in. The point at which the intellect becomes overwhelmed with the scope of events and the instinct is to settle back into the familiar comforting faith known and cultivated since the first moment one’s lips found the nipple. The faith that someone else is dealing with it – that where the world becomes unknown to us, a powerful and benevolent human authority exists in which we have only to place our faith unconditionally in order to guarantee eternal emotional security.
This dangerous delusion may be the central factor placing humanity’s physical security and future in the hands of sociopaths.
To anyone in the habit of dismissing people who are questioning, investigative and sceptical as tin foil hat wearing, paranoid, science-denying Trump supporters, the question is: what do you believe in? Where have you placed your faith and why? How is it that while no one trusts governments, you appear to trust nascent global governance organisations without question? How is this rational?
If you are placing faith in such organisations, consider that in the modern global age, these organisations, as extraordinarily well presented as they are, are simply grander manifestations of the local versions we know we can’t trust. They are not our parents and demonstrate no loyalty to humane values. There is no reason to place any faith whatsoever in any of them.
If you haven’t consciously developed a faith or questioned why you believe as you do to some depth, such a position might seem misanthropic, but in truth, it is the opposite. These organisations have not earned your trust with anything other than PR money and glossy lies. True power remains, as ever, with the people.
There is a reason why Buddhists strongly advise the placing of one’s faith in the Dharma, or the natural law of life, rather than in persons, and that similar refrains are common in other belief systems.
Power corrupts. And, in the world today, misplaced and unfounded trust could well be one of the greatest sources of power there is.
Massive criminal conspiracies exist. The evidence is overwhelming. The scope of those currently underway is unknown, but there is no reason to imagine, in the new global age, that the sociopathic quest for power or the possession of the resources required to move towards it is diminishing. Certainly not while dissent is mocked and censored into silence by gatekeepers, ‘useful idiots’, and conspiracy deniers, who are, in fact, directly colluding with the sociopathic agenda through their unrelenting attack on those who would shine a light on wrongdoing.
It is every humane being’s urgent responsibility to expose sociopathic agendas wherever they exist – never to attack those who seek to do so.
Now, more than ever, it is time to put away childish things, and childish impulses, and to stand up as adults to protect the future of the actual children who have no choice but to trust us with their lives.
This essay has focussed on what I consider to be the deepest psychological driver of conspiracy denial.
There are certainly others, such as the desire to be accepted; the avoidance of knowledge of, and engagement with, the internal and external shadow; the preservation of a positive and righteous self-image: a generalised version of the ‘flying monkey’ phenomenon, in which a self-interested and vicious class protect themselves by coalescing around the bully; the subtle unconscious adoption of the sociopathic worldview (e.g. ‘humanity is the virus’); outrage addiction/superiority complex/status games; a stunted or unambitious intellect that finds validation through maintaining the status quo; the dissociative protective mechanism of imagining that crimes and horrors committed repeatedly within our lifetime are somehow not happening now, not ‘here’; and plain old fashioned laziness and cowardice.
My suggestion is that, to some degree, all of these build on the foundation of the primary cause I’ve outlined here.
Tim Foyle is an English fellow who loves cats, nature, music, food, humanity and truth. You can follow his writings here, and on Twitter: @timfoyl
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“Why, against ALL THE EVIDENCE, do they sneeringly and contemptuously defend the crumbling illusion..”
How rich.
Nobody recognizes that Tim Foyle sounds very much like Tin foil?
I do not recommend wearing a tin foil hat: the aliens can read my thoughts that way. At this stage of the circus act, you’d need a serious case of Stockholm Syndrome to deny the obvious conspiracy the cabal is up to. Looking at you, “Professor” Dave
Loved this article. Very thought provoking. If I may add a few observations about sceptics. My experience is what they have in common is 1. they value independent thinking above belonging 2. – they rely much less heavily on conforming to a group mindset/ shared view and can often display excessively contrary attitudes 3. – they learn by doing, trial and error and experimentation (often autodidacts), not by being lectured to in a traditional academic setting They are often – much more likely to be small business owners – or much more likely to not have “careers” The first group are often seen as successful by society, (although increasingly less so). The second group are not, and often seen as drifters or under aachievers As a result: 1. they don’t spend their working life obsessed with corporate politics/ manoeuvring/ positioning ie what their “substitute parents” think of them. The first group obsess over survival, the second group focus on avoiding authority or keeping a low profile 2. they don’t rely on being told what to do by “substitute parents” – the first group find it totally alien being told what to do as they rely on decifering the “truth” or reality everyday of their lives, the second group often work repetitive/isolated jobs where management supervision is at a minimum, or if they do work in team scenarios can display passive aggression or low cooperative behaviour These two groups are a minority of the population, the size of which can increasingly be proxied by the % refusing the injections. Anyone not in these groups will be simply unable to empathise with them as they see the world and live their lives through completely different ‘lenses’. Anyone in these groups will be unable to understand the masses who are increasingly revealing themselves… Read more »
Well said, interesting observations.
Wow, extraordinary quality comment, possibly even better than the essay we discuss here!
I am a small business owner myself, you described exactly my own mindset, outstanding!
This is offensive to all those who are normally intelligent. It has a few points but they are put in a way that pushes the not very bright reader on the wrong track, therfore it is also misguiding and intellectually pestiferous. There is no big conspiracy, there are many and often in contrast with each other. In many cases, conspiracy only means strategy, something everybody recures to if wanting success, specially politicians. Power puts those who have it in a defensive mode, obviouysly, not wanting to give up being apical. I don’t believe people deny ‘the conspiracy’, I believe that they are well aware of the darkness that hides hideous secrets that live within the institutions, but things are so intricate and impenetrable that there’s little that can be be done to rid us of the evil greedy nature of man, something we’ve lived with since day one except for continuing to expose it and refine our system with better and more efficient rules that tend to inhibit the nasty ways of dominance. Someine once said ‘the fascinating thing about power is the abuse it allows you to pracice’. So, it is not our being childish that makes us deny conspiracy theories, it’s our being realistic.
If you’re only ‘normally intelligent’, then I’m afraid to say you’re probably not intelligent at all, and have just adapted to appear intelligent to the environment. I realise you can’t be on your game all the time, but intelligence doesn’t take a day off in my experience. That’s before we get into discussing different forms of intelligence. I believe the main difference between those who can see and accept conspiracies, and those who can’t, is the ability to put biases aside and think critically.
someone who says, they are normally intelligent, are probably more intelligent, than those who say that they are very intelligent (Dunning-Kruger)
Non c’è un solo un complotto, ce ne sono tantissimo a tutti i livelli e pure spesso in conflitto fra loro. Ognuno nel suo.piccolo complotta per arrivare al successo, i politici in special modo, ma si potrebbe anche definire mettere in atto delle strategie. Sta di fatto che il potere mette chi ne ha in una posizione apicale che viene istintivamente difesa. Diceva uno, ‘il fascino del potere sta nel poterne abusare’. Io non credo affatto che ‘il complotto’ venga negato, credo che sia impossibile penetrarne i misteri, diramarne la trama e trovare una forza di pari peso da opporvi.
Thank you Tim Foyle, for this very insightful little essay.
I have, as an artist, always believed in “Beauty”
I believe that “Truth is Beauty”
People NEED to believe in something.
Be very careful of the New World Religion.
Truth is not beauty. Or I suppose that depends on your definition of beauty. Truth is raw and often times extremely ugly. Which is why so many refuse to accept truth for what it is and instead distract themselves with all the beautiful lies they possibly can. People prefer living lies because the truth is typically so ugly. So again, I guess it depends on your definition of beauty.
May I translate it to German and post it on Facebook? Shurely I will link it.
Of course, I’m sure that will be fine! Make sure to credit the author too. Thanks, A2
Can I translate in Dutch for my website ezaz.nl? Of course with credits and a link to the English version.
Yes, of course!
https://faszinationmensch.wordpress.com/2021/04/30/uber-die-psychologie-des-verschworungsleugners/
TimFoyle hat :D, wear it proudly. Loved the article
Fantastic read, soothing for the soul and re-affirming humanity and sanity. Great psychological analysis! Thank you for this.
This is fantastic. My own thoughts exactly – so refreshing to it see it written up like this, put out there, and so eloquently.
In trying to comprehend this deep Covid divide, I figured it was the innate default of needing to trust our parents and its continuum into
adulthood where the ultimate responsibility for our own good must always lie higher up (the ‘nanny’ state for example) – that is blinding the masses.
There was a programme a few years ago which showed that conspiracy theorists often came from broken homes – as if that proved the basis for their delusions. It occurred to me it might be the other way around – that impaired trust resulting from poor child hood care would, if anything, heighten one’s antenna for untrustworthy authority.
This may be a sweeping generalisation, but I’m finding that it’s the most highly educated and most privileged that are buying the narrative most without question. This is because they’ve never had the need to question authority.
Too true. A difficult childhood makes people more vigilant for sure. Add to this, one single hospital stay is enough to prove to most of us how incompetent the medical profession is in practice, for anyone paying attention. There is a Carnegie Mellon (I think) study showing the most vaccine hesitant folks out here are on opposite sides of the spectrum…they are the least-educated and the hyper-educated (advanced degrees & PhDs) a lovely bell curve emerges. Interestingly, the 50% mass in the middle who follow the CDC orthodoxy, those who are out-sourcing their personal responsibility and obligation to investigate and passing this job along to “medical experts” who are just as captured as the regulatory agencies entrained with Pharma. Woe to they that are easily swayed and led.
A brilliant argument , well written and persuasive.
All I would add is the individual tendency to seek and do evil. Most of us don’t, but those who crave money, power and attention, the status seekers and celebrity legacy showponies? They can easily convince themselves that righteousness starts when the last dissident is removed,or imprisoned. All monsters start with this perverted impulse , and their structures reward that.
Me? I happen to think that Jesus, Paul and the old testament prophets portray man exactly as he is. And giving him access to power and pyramidal scaffolding to swing his genitals from ,is where we are today
You state so much of it well. Thank you.
The conspiracy denial derives from philosopher Karl Popper. I really recommend reading “The Open Society and Its Enemies” Vol.I&II, where Popper explains his theory of the “conspiracy theory of society”, which he rejects. Popper writes, the denial follows from the marxian view of the capitalist system. Therfore one should not blame the capitalist for the bad outcomes of the economic system because he would just fulfil his historical role to produce the conditions for the social revolution by developing the means of production and increasing productivity which alone would allow humanity once to live in a classless society, owning the means of production collectively. I personally doubt that the denial of conspiracy was marx intention, but this is, what Popper claims it is. Popper of course, at the same time, was disgusted by the marxian materialist conception of history. Popper rather was deeply influences by his friend, the neoliberal economist Friedrich von Hayek, who founded the Mont Pelerin Society. While Popper was more in favour of interventiones by the state to regulate the economy, Hayek more or less opposed it and favoured as much as privatisation as possible. Popper and Hayek both propagated an institutional approach for social change. To improve society one should rather develop institutions in a kind also bad people could not do too much damage to society, like implementing markets that would sanctioning its participants, rather than blaming those in power. In the beginning of the 90th there was a debate about conspiracy theory involving left wing intellectuals like Michael Parenti an Noam Chomsky. The Chomskyan side saw themselves as “institionalists”. For some reason neither Popper nor Marx is mentioned anywhere. At the centre of the debate was the question of how the left should deal with rising puplic distrust in the official investigations of the… Read more »
Thanks for gathering these links. Interesting stuff.
“Why, against all the evidence, do they sneeringly and contemptuously defend the crumbling illusion that ‘the great and good’ are up there somewhere, have everything in hand, have only our best interests at heart, and are scrupulous, wise and sincere?”
Because not everything government, big business, and science does is nefarious. To presume so is black or white thinking and itself nefarious, untrustworthy, and dangerous.
To imply that vigilance and a scrupulous caution towards the actions of the powerful is as dangerous as an unearned docile trust, is obviously a false equivalence – a single shade of grey cast over many enlightening points in the article.
History attests that too much of what they do is less than transparent at the time and sometimes nefarious so a precautionary approach is warranted. No one is saying that every conceivable conspiracy should be assumed true. The point is that the aversion to conceiving of possible conspiracy stifles and delays closer scrutiny. I would argue that a misplaced good faith in the actors behind the Iraq invasion enabled it to happen. We don’t need it all to be nefarious for knee jerk dismissal of “conspiracy theories” to lead to great disasters.
Of course, not everything, but unless you understand all the power structures at play, and all the hidden agendas being served, and the lies that are used to manufacture consent among the dumb masses, then you will be wrong most of the time. Certainly our elected ‘leaders’ want to look good on TV and have nice things to say that make them popular – as does every narcissist, but you have to consider their highest priorities – their own political security and future financial security, which is currently best served by furthering the agendas of the ruling sociopaths and coming up with convincing lies, such as “it’s for the greater good” to sell those agendas to the people.
It’s impossible to quantify, but if you assume they are ALWAYS lying, and ALWAYS have hidden agendas, then I suspect you will be correct most of the time, maybe even 90% of the time.
Congratulations! I loved the tack Tim Foyle took on this. The somewhat academic english will not be accessible for mainstream readers. Maybe that is why the Guardian (nowadays sadly a mainstream propaganda machine) let it slip by…
The Guardian would never publish this and risk offending their own readers 🙂
I am German; I understood and appreciated the article as one of the few writings, understanding my own apprehension and thus saving my sanity in these dreadful times!
So pleased, Susanne. Carry on the good fight, carry on free-thinking and you always have a home here 🙂 Sam (A2)
This is the best on this subject ever that I have read. It’s true about, “Mommy’s titty in baby’s mouth.” The author hit that one right on the button, the “nipple” of the whole thing, so to speak. Actual, realistic government conspiracies against the people are covered simply by now grown-up babies snuggling toward the certainty of “mommy’s nipple,” and don’t want any “ripple” to disturb that “nipple.” Because baby knows what’s safe: Mommy’s nipple that don’t ripple. Hahaha.
I don’t deny conspiracies, but you really have to question people who are known liars when they tell you the election was ‘stolen’ from them, Indeed they are now admitting even they did not believe that, as Trump’s lawyer stated, he lies so much he has himself convinced so he can convince others. https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2021/3/25/22350378/sidney-powell-admits-lie-mona-charen
it has been proven the Liberals cheated. They just won’t allow any evidence that proves it.
This article is actually a great example of the propaganda system at work. They use a series of anecdotes to tie her together in the reader’s mind with other proven frauds, then “quote” her saying that “no reasonable person would believe that was a statement of fact.” That “quote” is a sentence from a legal filing, taken out of context. In full context, the intent of the statement is to establish that certain claims involved in Dominion’s suit against her were not made as statements of *established fact*, but rather *apparent fact* that they hoped to establish through the legal process once more evidence was gathered. It’s legalese, misinterpreted either disingenuously or stupidly by the author (and everyone else who repeated this misrepresentation the week the filing came out). I’m not a big fan of Powell, but this article is simply misleading.
TDS, much?
It’s a logical fallacy to assume that everything said by a known liar is therefore a lie. Why not look at the facts instead of paying attention to what people say? How can you be certain that the people who told you Trump was lying, were not lying themselves? Regardless of how convincing it was, quite often when you look deep into these things, the lies are multi-layered.
I am no fan of Trump – I am in the UK and I liked what Sanders was saying in 2015/6, and I liked what Corbyn was saying in the UK around the same time – but I watched as the mainstream media lied non-stop to smear these people. And I saw the same lies and smears used against Trump – which suggests to me that he is no more a member of the corrupt ruling elite than Sanders or Corbyn. Trump sure did say a lot of ludicrous nonsense – but that’s how he got the media attention in the first place that got him elected. But, as I said, it is a fallacy to assume that EVERYTHING said by a proven liar is therefore a lie. For example – take a look at the story around Trump using Hydroxychloroquine. As soon as he mentioned he was using it, the FDA/CDC banned it and the press was flooded with stories about it being dangerous. As soon as Biden was sworn in, all that was reversed, and doctors can prescribe it once again. Similar example is the claim that Trump said people should “inject themselves with disinfectant”. If you listen to the actual unedited audio, that is not at all what he said.
Excellent point!
Regarding election fraud – there is convincing evidence that many districts had some very odd things happening, such as boxes of Biden only ballots showing up at 4am on the last day. The chances of that happening by chance are astronomical – but if you wanted to rig an election, and do it without overdoing it, then you would wait until the count is nearly complete before slipping in the fraudulent ballots – so you know exactly how many you need, And there is video evidence of one such district pulling boxes of new ballots out from under a desk after the count had been finished for the day, when all the staff had gone except for a couple who stayed behind. Anything can be fake – and I certainly don’t believe something just because I see a youtube video – but you have to consider all the possibilities and make your own judgement.
Well done. I believe fear, the need for a comfort zone, also pride, idol worship and the sheer inability to see something so grand can exist, all of these factors play a role in conspiracy denial. Also, on a spiritual level, people who view the world as their “final word,” being that they have no true understanding of a moral higher power, they are often terrified that if the world lets them down, then there is no hope.
I think that’s a wonderful point Albert. Your last sentence . . . thanks!
Bravo, Tim! I have studied the psychology of sociopaths for the last 15 years, as well as the dynamic that exists between their psychology and the psychology of normal people, and I have never encountered anyone with such a clear understanding of the complexities at play! The root of all evil is the sociopath, aided and abetted by the ignorance of the masses of “humane beings”.who prefer comfort over truth. Brilliant article, well done!
And we had just such a sociopath for the last four nightmare years in the white house. What was worse is the sociopaths willing to support his nonsense,
So now we have a man? in the Oval Office that is superior to Trump (or even if it were a wino hustled out of a wino jungle) for a prez? How is a totally brain dead Biden better than any human with a functioning brain, even a wino’s? ? Hahaha. The dim dems outrageously, out-front robbed every American citizen of the right to vote in even any vaguest semblance of a fair election. Hahaha.
Diabolical Narcissism, the Overarching Global Pathology – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4dtcwv5dPM
In order to search out the truth, you must love truth more than all of your fears and insecurities. Scripture says we fell for mass deception because ‘we did not love the truth.” That is the bottom line, only divine inspiration could provide such incisive analysis.
And I believe you have gotten to the root of it, my friend.
2 Thessalonians:7, 10
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work; only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a LIE.
I believe it comes down to a survival instinct that compels us to seek the truth. We must have a survival instinct strong enough to push us past the Peer Pressure Pain threshold.
C.S. Lewis said “True humility is to see the world as it is”. Jesus said “The meek shall inherit the earth”. Only those who see the truth being linked to their survival will endure.
The retardation of the psychi so it stays juvenile or infant in its essence, dependant on external authority figures is the primary feature of the bastardised Abrahanic religions and a primary reason we are in the mess we are in
Verily I say unto you, except ye be converted, and BECOME as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven..whoever, therefore, shall HUMBLE himself As this little child, the same is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.~Jesus Christ –
Matthew 18
Jesus Christ loves you Katie and we all have an external Authority to answer to, our Creator.
“Superstition is like a magnet, it pulls you in the direction of your belief.”
Boris Johnson has just said that the successful vaccination campaign in UK has been possible because of greedy capitalism, the “Conspiracy Deniers” will say that his consideration is right because the world in which they live is good as greedy capitalism allows people to buy what they want whenever they want and need, on the other hand, for the so called “Conspiracy Theorists”, usually rational and logical persons who already know certain perverse patologies of the power system, is a sort of “Smoking Gun” which has been said under the form of a gigantic Freudian slip, that’s t!!
Obviously, in this case, the so called “Conspiracy Theorists” are right 100% , they know very well that there wasn’t any necessity of a vaccination campaign because there are already effective treatments with very cheap drugs to cure Covid-19 like for example hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin and oxygen therapy, furthermore, they also know very well that the average age of deaths related to Covid-19 is very high ( something like 80 years and more ) and the vast majority suffered of preexisiting illnesses, that is just basic locic and rationality which unfortunately have become something uncommon, hence, here is the real question:
is the Americanization of European society the real culprit of such a gullible public opinion in Europe? Or what else?
Best regards.
Fabrice, greetings from Italy
“Americanization of European society” = gullible public opinion (in Europe) … ?
Europeans had no capacity for gullibility before America existed? That seems strange considering how old the place is compared to how young America is.
Statement seems devoid of some basic understanding of logic.
I’ve written “Americanization of European society” because I had taken it for granted that anyone could easily understand that the reference time is obviously from the end of the second world war to nowadays and if you don’t realize the historical, cultural political and economic consequences of the USA as the absolute winner of the second world war towards the losers like Italy, Germay and Japan, and the rest of the Western society ( they even tried to kill Charles De Gaulle several times because in 1966 he had chosen to withdraw from the NATO and had ordered all American military personnel to leave France), hence, the problem is yours not mine!!
In other words, it’s your statement that lacks of some basic understanding of modern hostorical logic, that’s it!!
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They aren’t just sociopaths, they are demons. Are you denying that? You might need to dig deeper.
Brilliant!
Bravo!
WoW!!!! Well written. I have said for many uears that rhat adults act like iverlt emotinal children. Very well written piece. THANK YOU. 💖🙏💖
I agree with all that is said in this excellent article, but I’d add that the sociopaths have long ago recognised the need to perpetuate the illusion of the normalcy of the system they operate as overlords.
I suggest that “norms” have been structured into our psyche from childhood.
Consider that only a few generations ago there was no such thing as team sports. The introduction of the team spirt concept has introduced to the psyches of our most active members the idea that the coach knows all. The coach is the wise master who shall not be questioned. And beyond the coach there are shadowy figures in boardrooms who dictate the maximums by which all must operate.
it’s a textbook example of psychological programming.
now consider that generally speaking these same people being so thoroughly programmed would also have been the ones storming barricades just a few generations earlier.
I agree with you. I’ve thought about the type of values that the Western education system instills in us, such as: competition, the need to prove our superiority, group-think, constant strive for “success”, obedience…etc. Why don’t school curriculums mandate teaching human morals like: love, compassion, friendship, the need to take care of the weak, humility, care… etc. I think its because it is way more difficult to corrupt persons who are driven by these human morals as opposed to someone who is driven by greed and the constant need to be “successful”. If this is the age of awakening, I hope in my lifetime to see the education system completely revamped and instilling in children these human morals, which are currently largely ignored by the education system.
I love your thoughts but felt some pull to your foundation. I think many had healthy family relationships which built a foundation of trust, I don’t see that in itself the problem. Yet by now anyone should now realize they were fortunate and those that have been vocal can not deny the hypocritical behavior. We have had a perfect contrast here in US. I think it’s fear by now, and cowardice, these facts of a horrible world are staring us all in the face. Turning a blind eye/selfishness is definetely like being a spoiled child and in need of maturing, but I think the premise that safe relationships isn’t the worst place to be. Many who experienced reality early have the advantage of understanding, and deservedly so, we got something for our early sorrows.
The fight is real, at this point of darkness upon us and the consequences we all will be in this together, they should see we are still maturing too “I told you so” has no value. We still have choices if we come together, we are fighting for them too.
This essay helps. Wake up all! God bless!
Beautifully written and brilliantly explained. Thank you.
Sane people still struggle mightily to explain the insane or sociopath. Our mind fails to comprehend the behavior bc it isn’t rational to us.
I have no problem comprehending evil and evil people. You have to come to the realization that some people are just pieces of shit
Or: the realization that we all have the potential to do immense good & bad.
With the immense amount of death, destruction, and theft done by governments in the 20th century, government supporters can’t lay claim to doing good.
Perhaps because perfectly intelligent, thoughtful and rationally minded people don’t just let themselves be tempted into finger-pointing from a suggestion, and because they, unlike Mr. Foyle, realize that sociopaths are not just among those whose behavior is objectional.
And why does opposing that suggestive direction suddenly turns into an unfounded point of view? Does a point of view becomes unfounded if one finds it contrary to one’s own believes, even when one compiles that own believe from a sometimes extremely questionable amalgam of social media comments? Is one’s point of view unfounded when one expresses one’s doubts about the sometimes extremely dubious nature of that amalgam of social media comments? Clearly Mr. Foyle thinks so!
History does not catalogues the machinations of liars, thieves, bullies and narcissists and their devastating effects. History does much more than that, and the deliberately limiting fabrication of history to this utterly negative and highly disparaging view suggests that Mr.Tim Foyle is rather one of those whose behavior he seems to disapprove.
YOU make no sense
CONSPIRACY is just the engine of mankind sense the beginning of time, that cave man conspired for that piece of meat or that man conspired for that women the dark occultist created conspiracy ‘theorists’ to baster ize that word so you think its something taboo
It’s “since” and “bastardise”
Obviously you are ignorant to clear facts. Truths are absolute but they require facts in order to demonstrate them to people. Luckily, the kinds of obvious truths the author discusses here are very much supported by hard and clear empirical measurements/observations – facts!
So, your assertion that the author and readers are mindless finger-pointers is incorrect, and is based upon your own preconceptions and prejudices. A typical narc/NPC seeking to find subtext when there is none (subtext is for the dishonest and cowardly), and to weave strands of truth into your fabric of deceit and delusion in order to sate your tit-feeding survival tendencies.
You are the very scourge to which the author alludes.
Another awesome and so much “needed to be said” article! Off Guardian never ceases to delight the intellect and strike at the core of the most pressing and urgent issues of the time. Thank you all so much!
Working my way through The End of All Evil by Jeremy Locke, ISBN 0-9777451-0-4. Explains how evil works, its tactics to control the masses. It’s as old as Cain, Nimrod, Bael, Walter Wink called it the Domination System. “Conspiracy theory” is a
moniker to turn people away from looking. Programming. We’ve been programmed.
An alternative name for a ‘conspiracy denier’ which I quite like is ‘conspiraphobe’.
It is a good riposte for anyone dismissed as a ‘conspiraloon’ or ‘conspiratard’ or similar.
guess what, dude, without proof it’s nothing.
Despite countless examples of well-documented and accepted acts of organized group deceit throughout human history, in the modern vernacular ’Conspiracy Theory’, through clever propaganda, has been molded into a pejorative term to discredit any form of legitimate questioning of dubious official narratives. So, no matter how many anomalies are unearthed and analyzed by various professionals about suspicious global or national events; grouping all discussion and topics into a discredited intellectual taxonomic group, labelled ‘Conspiracy Theorist’, allows deceivers, deniers and useful idiots to maintain a comfortable lie rather than allow exposure of a possible uncomfortable truth. And the masses can sigh a relief and maintain their false sense of security and belief in the system. Now, clearly some ‘conspiracy theories’ will not withstand the rigors of scrutiny but this should not imply that all theories by group association, do not. That would be like saying, I don’t have a bucket of carbon because it contains coal and diamonds. Fortunately for mendacious authorities, most conspiracy theories have another Achilles heel: It is one thing realizing the official narrative is corrupt by unearthing obvious lies and deceptions, but it is quite another thing being able to definitively piece together and reveal the truth. This difficulty with burden of proof is utilised by deniers to reject conspiracy exists at all. But this is false logic: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. In other words, the inability for a number of theorists to reach cohesive agreement on what took place is not a substantive defense for an official narrative which is clearly and provably false. For example, we know gravity exists but all manner of theories abound as to how or why… this lack of cohesion in opinion does not mean gravity does not exist, we just don’t fully understand it yet. In… Read more »
TPTB have spent the last 30 years telling us the ‘climate is changing’, we know it is and has been doing so since the planet came about but now we have ‘cash’ being added to bills supposedly to combat it.
Now that the masses swallowed that tale hook, line and sinker these people at the top have decided they can make even more out of us with ‘pandemics’, problem, reaction, solution, the next pandemic will be along within a year or two and every couple of years after that till the masses are so full of poison they’ll be dropping like flies, which will be attributed to the ‘pandemic’ and the dumbed down masses will continue swallowing it.
A good theory, Foyle – I’m a believer!
All this reenforces my delusion that there is something gone astray in the last few decades with the western psyche. I was in India twice as a traveler and the locals are far more mentally balanced than our instantly opinionated expert who pop up on the media to the point of my switching off. There is a conspiracy. Which people willingly subscribe to. Believing everything on television’s advertising. They actually believe what is dished out there is fair dinkum and replicate it. The non existent epidemic and one of my neighbours was convinced I carried the bubonic plague – why because they could not be bothered to inquire, to actually bother to think. Shaw’s famous dictum that [or was it Russel?] people would rather die than think. As for power corrupting: I have an example that surprised me. One day in a big factory I was promoted for the day from labourer to ‘leading hand’. Make that a corporal with one stripe. And out of the woodwork-well the machines they came- expectant towards me, basically a kind of reverence, respect, someone to look at or up but not down. I couldn’t believe it. Had no contact with them ever and there they stood around me expecting for me to give them their orders. This is not a work ethic thing – it was they way they observed me. I can see how that is tempting. But only because people are so willing to subsume themselves in this aura of power. Advantages no doubt to be sought, like an easier task and bad luck to the one who missed out. I got through the day without actually bothering to build an empire. However the lesson was it is those who are willing to be servile creatures to mendacious politicians who are… Read more »
Great article…..I’ve learnt a new phrase conspiracy denier
‘conspiraphobe’ is another
I recently discovered “pseudoskeptic”.
Pseudoskeptism discribes the position taken by Mr. Foyle
oh were all fancy now. I remember when ya just called them GULLIBLE. And then made fun of them for all the blatently silly and obsurd things they believed.
Thats absurd.
Just as you say the child trusts because ‘it could not survive otherwise’. That is still the motive, until one grows enough to accept ones helplessness in the face of the universe, ‘man proposes and god disposes’. We are all bound by time to die, that is the button that power trippers have learnt to press. That is the key trust to find, that mortality is OK. The way out is not revolution as such, which just replaces one set of parasites with another, but by growing the awareness to accept mortality on ones own terms. Life is a gamble, trust is our first instinct, but it is not only in the mother, the family, teachers, early caregivers, important as they are. Any of them may fail sometimes, many times. Ultimately it must grow to be trust in life itself. Each day as it comes is that opportunity. Then it is life that has moved on, I have to catch up, be loose and natural when girlfriend goes or pet cat dies. Not blame the other boy for stealing her, nor her for being fickle. So now, dont say sociopaths are ruining life, you will never penetrate deep enough to find your own exploiter, your own ruthlessness, your own survivor at all costs. The sun shines equally for sociopaths as well, ice cream tastes as good, and we/they dont have all that anxious guilt of not being able to care enough to save anyone else than ourself… First find where you have mistakenly placed your trust, from where you expect to be saved, and undo those expectation. Accepting one is helpless now as as when a child sees other people are not saviours nor sociopathic monsters to placate or fight, nor are people weaker prey to manipulate. Life is like… Read more »
just brilliant! Concise and no holds barred. Bravo!!!!
Eloquently mirrors my own views. You don’t have to be a historian (although I studied history myself) to see sociopaths rising up the hierarchies to disastrous effect. History is littered with them. If they are recognised at all, they are ringfenced as part of that atypical piece of nazi history. I do think there is psycopathy as well as sociopathy at play – look out for the smirkers among our politicians and ‘experts’.
Brilliant points. Great article. I must come to this site more often.
Brilliant article. Might even snap a few out of their stupor. If we can get them to read it in the first place, that is.
1st time read–RIGHT ON! Would U consider a Presidential position? 2nd time a person has made ANY sense.
https://off-guardian.org/2021/03/12/on-the-psychology-of-the-conspiracy-denier/ The lie is that the world or our self is as we think – and rationalise or identify and protect. While commending the article as a stepping stone in addressing our mind as the substratum of our perceptions and responses, I join in looking within and beneath appearances as an ongoing willingness. Why is it that otherwise perfectly intelligent, thoughtful and rationally minded people baulk at the suggestion that sociopaths are conspiring to manipulate and deceive them? And why will they defend this ill-founded position with such vehemence? This states that people are not perfectly intelligent, thoughtful and rationally minded, because they protect their mind from threat, under the belief IT protects or speaks and represents them, or their true interests. I have considered our ‘thinking as being like our firstborn son – as our creation, and special to us. (This perspective has interesting inference for the Old Testament call to yield or sacrifice our ‘thinking’ or conflicted will, for a living truth that restores wholeness of being). Who are you? If you keep asking as a means to release associations or things about you – will you arrive at your thought – like Descartes?” ‘I think therefore I am!’. Consider the ‘Name of God’; “I Am That I Am!” I suggest that we are running an ‘i’ that is a derivative of derivatives such as to have delivered us to a Prodigal Wasteland (Nightmare). The device by which thought SEEMS to hijack the mind and replicate itself is conflict and division that rules out wholeness to a dissociating split off sense of self. I had the image as I wrote of a phish taking the bait and running with it until it is ‘realed in’ (puns intended). All psyops or deceiving illusions share the function of illusion –… Read more »
I am a proud denier of conspiracy theories relating to Covid. That does not make me a conspiracy denier in a more general sense. I believe that conspiracies potentially exist whenever there is the chance to get away with it – for a great variety of reasons – mischief, financial gain, political advantage. Unlike proven conspiracies, those relating to Covid have yet to be uncovered by sound investigative journalism, and I’d bet money that in the main they never will. What intrigues me is the motives that are driving the people who write for this website – mischief, limelight, narcissism, psychosis? It can hardly be a search for Truth.
Patrick all the Journalists are either running with the fear porn – or cannot get a platform to expose the lie. Apart from UK column.There is NO financial Gain for anyone who disputes that this pandemic is a total fraud – on the other Hand …. I will let you Join up the Dots
When would you say a conspiracy is proved? What defines a “sound investigative journalist”? Can you name any?
Jon Rappoport.
Time to learn
The Book AIDS Inc by Jon Rappaport is an in-depth investigation about the captured NIH,CDC,NIAIDS, FDA et al and how profiteers (he names them!) manipulate the planet using the crap not-fit-for-purpose rt-PCR test. Sadly, because the media ignored this story in the 1990’s we get to witness a global catastrophe again, using the fraudulent PCR test once again is the biggest shake down to ever hit a planet. Wanna know how we got to Covid1984? READ Jon’s book. It will all come into focus. His current blog is also amazing. nomorefakenews dotcom
I totally agree with you. It isn’t search for truth, it is the urge not to be contradicted in any way. In fact I find that quite sick!
$10 this kid doesn’t know what PCR stands for, let alone ANYTHING about the cycle counts. Forget even trying to ask the toddler about near 0 death rates.
SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 REVISITED: PROLOGUE I BY DAVE MCGOWAN | SEP 12, 2001 Welcome to the New and Improved Police State “We are going to see a great number of articles in the future from so-called experts and public officials. They will warn about more violence, more kidnappings, and more terrorists. Mass media, the armed forces, and intelligence agencies will saturate our lives with fascist scare tactics and ‘predictions’ that have already been planned to come true.” –Conspiracy theorist’ Mae Brussell, 1974 I have a friend with whom I frequently disagree on matters of politics. He thinks that I am a crazed conspiracy theorist, and I think that he is a reactionary fascist. There was one thing that we agreed on though. A few weeks ago, I told him that our fearless leaders seemed to be veering dangerously close to unleashing ‘tactical’ nuclear weapons upon the world. Although he seriously doubted that that was in fact the case, he readily agreed that such an action would be reckless and unconscionable. He stated that he couldn’t envision any scenario under which such a strike would be justified and that we should avoid, at all costs, crossing that threshold. Opening that door, he believed, could only serve to escalate tensions and make this a much more dangerous world in which to live. He was one of several people who called me yesterday to discuss the alleged terrorist attacks upon America. During the course of that call, he stated flatly that when the perpetrators were identified, they and their backers should be nuked. When I reminded him of our conversation of just a few weeks before, he said that things have changed now. I asked him if he had considered whether that wasn’t perhaps precisely the point of the attacks. Unfazed, he reiterated his belief that I… Read more »
Fast Eddy —- No, only most have no real ability to think and they NEVER did—-It is way more obvious now in the perilous times were living in
The key to this essay is the power lies with the people. This is something too many have forgotten. How can a vaccine passport be implemented if the majority refuse to take the vaccine. The government can threaten and coerce, but they cannot enforce it without compliance. The government tells you resistance is futile. Compliance is inevitable because freedom depends on taking the jab. This is a lie. Freedom is lost due to compliance. If businesses refuse to close, people continue to gather, no one takes the jab or wears a mask, then the whole illusion of government control is revealed. Government control is contingent on a people that obey.
Mask mandates only work as long as most people obey. The system is not designed to deal with massive disobedience. Look how BLM runs roughshod over cities while the government is incapable of dealing them. Nevermind curfew violations. Looting and arson by hundreds of people and the system collapses. Similarly, if 50 or 100 people show up at Target simultaneously without masks on, what will the store do? Turn everyone away and lose the sales? Call the police who will send 3 or 4 officers? The manager may complain and ask people to comply, but in the end the cash register will ring all those purchases up.
In the US, it was once believed Rights come from God; they are natural. Today, the vast majority of people believe Rights come from the Government. Forgotten is “by the People, for the People”. Now it is “by the Elite, for the Elite.” The People are entitled to only the freedoms granted to them by the ruling class.
No, the key to this essay is NOT “the power lies with the people”. Why would that be the key? The key to this essay is that it was written by someone not familiar with the logic of the scientific method. It’s armchair reasoning, and it is full of non-sequiturs. It is true that if the people refuse to comply with medical recommendations, then we have a problem. But the problem is with those who refuse to comply. Are they truly informed about their decision of non-compliance? Our politicians are given a mandate, by the population that elected them. The fact is that national public health conspiracy misperceptions (Gulf War Syndrome, DDT, Agent Orange, Anthrax vaccine, MMR vaccine, Depleted Uranium, pesticides, etc., etc.,) cause so much illness and deaths (20 million dead as a result of DDT misperceptions), and it is astoundingly expensive and time-consuming to defeat them, usually hundreds of millions of dollars in studies to reiterate what has already been proven and up to a decade or more of sustained communication effort to overcome media and interest group misrepresentation, all of which is diverted away from useful measures to protect health and lives. Many conspiracy proponents have such fixed beliefs, pride, or ulterior motives that no amount of explanation or evidence can ever influence them.
Ok I can’t believe what I just read. You just said we should comply 🤦🏻♀️ to a bunch of sociopaths who have openly told us they believe in population control!! Helloooo! And all those scary horrible health conspiracy misperceptions were created by the very people that want you to comply!! They create a crisis to gain control. You just proved the point of the entire article and you don’t even see that. We can never defeat this evil if you are going to defend them at every turn. I’m tired of waiting on people like you to wake up. You’ve been hoodwinked to the maximum degree. MK Ultra’d by your tel-lie-vision
Good of you to take the trouble to bother replying. I would not have known where to start! But if ever a post revealed the depth and brick-wall nature of the problem this was it!
Dear Mr. Pedophile: No, I do not accept the premise that all those in government and in the corporate world are sociopaths. You need to read my original comment below. In any case, you are knee deep in conspiratorial thinking. It’s just too simple for me. Reality is far more complicated than the conspiratorial habitus is willing to admit.
Well I guess you’ll find out the hard way. Remember these conversations when it’s disclosed. You’re gonna want to know how we knew what we knew.
Why haven’t I yet found out the hard way? On what basis do you claim that I am going to find out the hard way? Is there a pattern, a sample space of some sort? Did we find out the hard way when it came to the Apollo moon landing? Or 9/11? Or JFK? Or DDT? Or chemtrails? Show me some evidence that we typically find out the hard way that we should have listened to the conspiracy theorists.
Put very briefly, the scientific method involves creating a hypothesis and then designing an experiment that will prove or disprove that hypothesis. For example, one could hypothesise that a virus called SARS-CoV-2 exists. The experiment to prove this?: isolate it. One could then hypothesise that this virus causes the disease known as Covid-19. The experiment to prove this?: satisfying Koch’s postulates is one possibility. Neither experiment has yet been successfully conducted, so the mass media is acting unscientifically when it passes off the above two hypotheses as being proven fact.
Tim: I refer to the “logic” of the scientific method. The reason we have to design an experiment is that we are reasoning from the evidence to an antecedent that accounts for the evidence. The problem is that there are a number of possible antecedents that can account for the facts in evidence. And so each hypothesis has to be tested. Outside of the hard sciences, this is difficult to do. It’s really a matter of plausible reasoning. The problem I find with conspiracy people is that they tend to fall into the fallacy of the transposed conditional. Given a hypothesis of conspiracy (i.e., 9/11 was an inside job), what is the probability of certain pieces of evidence (E1, E2, E3, etc). Let’s say it is very high. Great. The problem is that they seem to conclude that the probability of the hypothesis is therefore very high. This is the fallacy. The hypothesis must be tested directly, and that involves a different calculus (Bayesian). The probability of the hypothesis (i.e., 9/11 was an inside job) given the evidence might be extremely low, even though the probability of the evidence given the hypothesis is very high. Null hypothesis significance testing falls into the same fallacy, unless it is used merely as an indication that the hypothesis should now be directly tested. The probability of certain anomalies, given a typical conspiratorial hypothesis (like JFK, 9/11, Covid -19, etc.) is usually very high, but it is erroneous to conclude that the probability of the conspiratorial hypothesis is correspondingly high. I’ve read enough conspiracy material to know that this is how the reasoning usually goes with these people. Those in the hard sciences as well as statistics tend not to fall for these conspiracy theories. It’s usually English majors who do so, and English… Read more »
Some of what you’re talking about here is good but I’m not convinced you actually know how to apply it in a concrete situation such as 9/11 or Covid 19 etc. From what I’ve read in your other comments you are a little loose in your application of principles and have a tendency to do what you accuse others of doing. You appear to have drawn some pretty sweeping conclusions from what I’m guessing are a few anecdotal samples from your own life: “these conspiracy people”, “these people” “English majors”. You might want to apply the Beyesian rule in some of these cases.
I would welcome any demonstration of your calculus as it relates to any of the “big conspiracies”, one where you include all the evidence. I would like to see a conclusion that can’t be arrived at by the use of simple deductive logic. The tricky part is collecting the evidence and testimony and being sure that you have all of it. That really is the essence of it and where I suspect your weakness lies. You seen heavy on the theory but light on actual evidence. Of course, Bayesian calculus is one useful tool among many. But when it comes down to it you can’t escape a conclusion using simple deductive logic that is drawn from premises if those premises are certain.
Dr. Shitaki: It is very difficult to do a Bayesian calculus with something like 9/11, at least if you are asking for numbers. But when we stand back and look at the various plausible explanations for many of these anomalies, like Hani Hanjour and his corkscrew descent, which was supposed to be impossible, or the collapse of WTC 7 or the Twin Towers, we can ask ourselves about the plausibility (or even probability) of that hypothesis (Hani Hanjour carrying out such a descent, or Oswald being innocent but who just happened to be nowhere in the TBD building where anyone else was, who can testify to it) against the plausibility (or probability) of the hypothesis that GW Bush, Dick Chaney, Rumsfeld, Philip Zilikow, Guliani, etc., are complete and utter psychopaths who plotted the murder of thousands of innocent people by attacking the financial centre of the United States, all as an excuse to go to war in the Middle East, the inevitable conclusion is that it is far more plausible that Hani Hanjour was able to carry it out (which is what a 757 pilot pointed out to a few weeks go), so too Oswald. The latter hypothesis is just not plausible. The argument put forth in the article above is full of logical fallacies. This idea that psychologically normal people do not aspire after leadership positions in the corporate and political worlds, but sociopaths do, hence, the world is run by sociopaths, is just very bad reasoning. And the principal hypothesis about trust and childishness, etc., is not empirically tested. It’s just a hypothesis, a constructed narrative by an English major. It’s an unfalsifiable thesis, hence, it is profoundly unscientific. Knowledge is hard to achieve. A coherent narrative is not knowledge.
What a load of stinking horse manure.
Looking in the mirror Peter?
Now that’s an intelligent and articulate reply!
If it’s difficult to do then why are you bringing it up? For example, your hypothesis of Bush etc. being psychopaths plotting to murder thousands as well as what you think the motives were, I don’t necessarily agree that is the issue but ok, let’s assume those are the reigning theories. What I’m particularly interested in is how you came up with your conclusion that it isn’t possible that Bush etc. were in any way responsible for 9/11? How did you work out the plausibility of the pilot business or Oswald? That’s what I would like to see demonstrated using the calculus you outlined. Do you first have ALL the evidence and ALL the testimony which you plug in to the formula and, voila!, out comes a certain conclusion? It seems more to be based on the “feeling” that something is or isn’t plausible. I think as far as 9/11 is concerned, at least to most people outside of the US, the official narrative is completely laughable. Of course, many Americans are on the vanguard of investigation and research into the event but the majority of Americans are content with the official story and I’m sorry to say, much of the rest of the world is laughing. Your comment on Foyle’s theory about trust etc. not being able to be empirically tested: well, I think Foyle may be providing a much needed critique of the many articles and books on the subject of “conspiracy theorists”(meaning anyone who questions the narrative) that have come out in the last 20 years as being psychologically ill. Of course, nothing about those theories are falsifiable either, wouldn’t you agree? Either all these authors have really hit on some essential truth or there is some kind of disinformation campaign going on and I don’t think that is an unreasonable hypothesis at all.… Read more »
If it’s difficult to do then why are you bringing it up? For example, your hypothesis of Bush etc. being psychopaths plotting to murder thousands as well as what you think the motives were, I don’t necessarily agree that is the issue but ok, let’s assume those are the reigning theories. What I’m particularly interested in is how you came up with your conclusion that it isn’t possible that Bush etc. were in any way responsible for 9/11? How did you work out the plausibility of the pilot business or Oswald? That’s what I would like to see demonstrated using the calculus you outlined. Do you first have ALL the evidence and ALL the testimony which you plug in to the formula and, voila!, out comes a certain conclusion? It seems more to be based on the “feeling” that something is or isn’t plausible. I think as far as 9/11 is concerned, at least to most people outside of the US, the official narrative is completely laughable. Of course, many Americans are on the vanguard of investigation and research into the event but the majority of Americans are content with the official story and I’m sorry to say, much of the rest of the world is laughing. Your comment on Foyle’s theory about trust etc. not being able to be empirically tested: well, I think Foyle may be providing a much needed critique of the many articles and books on the subject of “conspiracy theorists”(meaning anyone who questions the narrative) that have come out in the last 20 years as being psychologically ill. Of course, nothing about those theories are falsifiable either, wouldn’t you agree? Either all these authors have really hit on some essential truth or there is some kind of disinformation campaign going on and I don’t think that is an unreasonable hypothesis at all.… Read more »
Indeed!
Take time to listen to this and then tell me there is NO conspiracy
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-15-top-vaccine-scientist-warns-the-world-halt-all-covid-19-vaccinations.html
The problem is that the vast majority buy into the Covid BS.
Have a look at this school board meeting to see how rapid the CovIDIOTS are on the issue of masks. Skip first 5 minutes.
The one voice of reason at one point states that other schools with no masks have no more infections … listen to the rabid dogs insane response.
These are people who would without a doubt be pleased to stone dissenters to death.
https://youtu.be/dyjE7OxHAiA
The same crowd that crucified their saviour 2000 years ago, sending us back a few millenniums.