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WATCH: Being Selfish

Someone sent Off-Guardian this animation today which, we feel, very much sums up our shared mood on this warm Spring Sunday afternoon.

The animation’s author appears to be twitter user Sye Ten. We have no affiliation with the author, we know little else about him and don’t necessarily agree with all his views.

However we think this animation stands on its own beautifully. In today’s crazy world, it adds another useful tool to our mental toolbox.

At times we just need to switch off everything, wish everyone well and get Zen.

Namaste.

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Glenn Perry
Glenn Perry
Aug 31, 2021 2:12 AM

What happened to the audio? I’ve seen this a few times, but now no sound?

Celticmama
Celticmama
May 24, 2021 7:40 PM

Brilliant!

sarah
sarah
Apr 15, 2021 11:33 AM

Best thing I’ve seen in so long 🙂

Brockland A.T.
Brockland A.T.
Apr 15, 2021 2:05 AM

… Seems like an OK video, but did anyone notice who ‘died’? NOT the selfish one.

Its like she bullied Zen guy into convenient suicide and will inherit his space free of the crime of direct murder.

Sarah B
Sarah B
Apr 15, 2021 9:40 PM
Reply to  Brockland A.T.

He didn’t commit suicide. He said death is an illusion, a mere transferring of energy so no one really dies, the energy inside is just transforms to something else.

margaret
margaret
May 11, 2021 3:52 PM
Reply to  Sarah B

You have part of that right. Up until the end when he thinks you transend. This physical body dies but our souls go either to Heaven to be with Jesus if we have accepted him as our Lord and Saviour OR to the grave to await judgement and hell.

Bob
Bob
Apr 14, 2021 10:57 AM
Reply to  David Robinson

Ah yes, The Daily Mail, always a reliable source of scientific information.

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 14, 2021 12:07 PM
Reply to  Bob

It’s also the main headline in the Telegraph.

You really are trying very hard – and failing. It’s all over the TV and radio news this morning. Wake up.

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 14, 2021 12:11 PM
Reply to  Bob

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/04/13/quarter-covid-deaths-not-caused-virus/

These are ONS figures, not fabricated like the figures you believe to be true.

That puts deaths at below 100,000 over two winters.

This is beginning to look a lot like 2017/18 – 50,000 excess deaths in one winter. Waking up yet? And Johnson talking up lookdowns again yesterday? Wakey, wakey, Bob! I bet you were calling for mass flu jabs after that nasty 2017/18 winter, then? Nope.

theguardian.com/society/2018/nov/30/excess-winter-deaths-in-england-and-wales-highest-since-1976

Here’s your hero Boris saying that it’s lockdowns not the vaccines that have caused the reduction.

https://twitter.com/hector_drummond/status/1381966899374792714

DaveP
DaveP
Apr 15, 2021 3:51 AM
Reply to  David Robinson

UK column covered this also today.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 14, 2021 8:49 PM
Reply to  Bob

Do tell, where do you get your reliable information from?

Fast Eddy
Fast Eddy
Apr 16, 2021 5:31 AM
Reply to  Bob

And I guess the rest of the MSM that constantly attacks Sweden’s massive success in dealing with covid — and ignores eminent scientists like Mike Yeadon … are reliable

Have I got that right — mate?

Sam
Sam
Apr 13, 2021 8:08 AM

hey Off-G, what’s the point of having your own Telegram channel if all you do is just repost the cookie tracker-infested link to your website? FFS, put your articles (and videos) in native format when posting on Telegram!

Glenda
Glenda
Apr 13, 2021 1:34 AM

The only thing I’m not crazy about is the stereotypical nagging woman. So far in my experience it is men who are more likely to tow the line, not question mask wearing etc. My (lawyer) partner is much more compliant than I am – at least he doesn’t nag me about it though lol.

Drooze
Drooze
Apr 13, 2021 4:58 AM
Reply to  Glenda

Make your own video then!

amritmurti
amritmurti
Apr 13, 2021 7:38 AM
Reply to  Glenda

Fear is what makes this poor woman so scared and so aggressive. Fear is what is driving all this. Alternative methods of managing the COVID-19 have been ignored. So many doctors and hospitals in Greece have been successfully treating it despite the dire lack of funds in our hospitals in many different and effective ways. The problem is not wearing a mask, or even getting the vaccination, it is that all of this is being imposed by a bunch of corrupt politicians being guided by WHO??? We are fined in Greece if we sit on a bench in the street, even while wearing our mask and having sent an SMS to the government to track us. We have been in lockdown since October. It is not all about the COVID-19….it is about freedom to choose and make decisions about our own body. I will be forced to take the vaccination because I want to travel to India to see my guru. So, there is no choice here for me. But again, I look at it in a ‘ZEN’ way. I could also be the woman screaming and shouting how unfair and undemocratic it all is…actually I do shout and holler from time to time, even though I have been doing yoga for 21 years. Human nature!!!!

mik
mik
Apr 13, 2021 10:21 AM
Reply to  Glenda

The bloke is not much better, they made him sound like a dunce. States he is happy to simply meditate and grow veggies, then he floats off like one of these new age spiritual movement followers.

They made him out to be a hippy type dummy, it’s not a positive movie for the defense. Just more subliminal mind control. Keep lapping it up folks.

Glenda
Glenda
Apr 14, 2021 5:31 AM
Reply to  mik

Totally agree!!

rob2
rob2
Apr 14, 2021 6:33 PM
Reply to  mik

That’s what I got from it as well.

TheSickManOfEurope
TheSickManOfEurope
Apr 13, 2021 2:33 PM
Reply to  Glenda

Ok Karen.

Glenda
Glenda
Apr 14, 2021 5:32 AM

Hahahahahaha. It was a joke, joyce xx

mik
mik
Apr 12, 2021 11:55 PM

This whole you are “selfish” unless you tow the line thing is being banded around to divide another section of the population, another set up. You can tell because it gets banded around all the alternative sites at about the same time.

In reality, with the roll out of the gene therapy many people I know have tapped out to the invisible force and pressure they have been put under by their employers (many work for front line government, hospitals, paramedics etc).

It goes like this. You have the freedom to choose, but you may be transferred or dismissed. Dismissed being the last resort as they understand that peer pressure will get the better of people way before then. Better to first label you for NOT being a “team player”, the rest of the weak team will outcast you if you dont follow.

So whats really going on is the selfish people are the ones who submit without question. They are NOT taking one for the team, they are submitting for their OWN selfish reasons. To keep their job, to not be outcast, etc. This is reverse psychology 101. Always understand the general population do not care about someone they don’t know, that’s you. If this was the case we would not be in this pickle in the first place.

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 13, 2021 7:24 AM
Reply to  mik

the unvaxxed may be denied welfare aid, emergency shelter, a job (even a horrid one) or access to retail including meds.

Bel
Bel
Apr 15, 2021 6:30 PM
Reply to  mgeo

The vaxxed will be refused life insurance!
Now that is policy!

mik
mik
Apr 12, 2021 11:31 PM

I find the whole publicising of “side effects” in the main stream interesting. Why is this information being published since it is having a devastation effect on their plan to inject the planet. The upper echelons have covered up and lied about everything else, why not this too? It’s almost like they have some kind of divine obligation to inform before they damage you.

I get the impression they want us to know. Perhaps like an experiment of the human thought process. Offer an experimental procedure and inform them of the risk of very real complications. In addition, tell them they may loose their livelihood or loose social acceptance if they choose not to participate.

Who knows exactly what they are up to, but know for sure if it’s in the main stream it’s part of the script.

But like i’ve stated in the past. What are people getting this gene therapy injection for exactly? Are we not still waiting for evidence of a virus that floats on the wind, but only for a distance of 6.6ft.

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 13, 2021 7:27 AM
Reply to  mik

Even the insane barrage of comments from the exceptionally privileged here may be an experiment, financed by some university.

Penelope Harrington
Penelope Harrington
Apr 12, 2021 10:50 PM

This is the most brilliant and pertinent depiction of current schism and separation of the egoic self from spirit!

jane randall
jane randall
Apr 12, 2021 9:33 PM

Cracked me up, I sent it to my sister!

Andy
Andy
Apr 12, 2021 6:29 PM

Brilliant! 😂
That made my day, thank you. 🙏🏽

Geoff P
Geoff P
Apr 12, 2021 6:26 PM

Classic..Bravo !!!

Ken Markle
Ken Markle
Apr 12, 2021 5:15 PM

When the vaccines started arriving we were were told they were safe. Millions of people went ahead and had a first dose on that promise, including myself. Now it’s revealed that there is a minuscule chance of blood clots as a result of the injection. I’ve heard it explained that as millions of people come forward for the jab, it’s inevitable that rare one-in-a-million side effects might surface. As time goes on even rarer on-in-a-billion side effects might well appear too. These unforeseen issues do not worry me too much since they are by definition, extremely rare. But what does bother me is the possibility that some completely unforeseen and totally devastating side effect will occur in the future, possibly four or five years from now, which will affect 90% of recipients, killing or severely disabling huge swathes of the world population. I wonder what surprises may lie in wait in the years ahead?

magumba
magumba
Apr 13, 2021 1:14 AM
Reply to  Ken Markle

Are you sure you are going to survive this winter ?….what with being pathologically primed and all that…I wish you well…..but please go and hunt down the true side effects …you may find it difficult due to government obfuscation and chicanery but if you keep digging you’ll find them…and remember the official figures are only a representative sample as not all adverse effects are recorded

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Apr 13, 2021 2:35 AM
Reply to  Ken Markle

Without wishing to put you on the spot or attack you, could you possibly explain what drove you to get the vax? Why you thought you needed it. Or if you did not think that, what pressure drove you to take something experimental you knew you did not need.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 2:37 AM

I’m glad you asked, I was wondering the same.

Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 8:53 AM

I have had 2 doses of the vaccine.
I’ve taken the vaccine because I am a healthcare worker and I want to prevent my patients from catching coronavirus from me.
Due to my age and health I am unlikely to be seriously affected by COVID-19, however any reduced risk of becoming unwell with it is good for me.
I don’t believe the vaccines are experimental. Huge studies were done before they were offered out, and the technology used for most of the vaccines has been around for a while. The way the AstraZeneca jab works is the same as the way the Ebola vaccine works.
I believe the vaccines work and are safe.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 10:09 AM
Reply to  Bob

1 You don’t believe the “vaccines” are experimental. A quick Google search, a visit to the companies website or even a check on the NHS or CDC will clear up that false impression.
2 You claim you don’t want to pass it on to your patients, see point one. It does not stop transmission.
3 Ebola “vaccine” is also experimental, same as the covid injectables. “compassionate use/emergency use”
See point one.
4 Huge studies/technology has been around for a while. I don’t know where you have got this nonsense from. These “vaccines” have had the shortest test cycle yet, hence the reason they are still in testing stages. Again see point one.

Facts don’t care about your beliefs, opinions or bias.

You claim to be a healthcare worker, so you are meant to aid the sick, all that false information you have posted (albeit opinion based) could potentially harm someone.

Educate yourself, then you can educate others.

Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 10:55 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Facts don’t care about your beliefs either:
Studies done on the vaccines demonstrate high efficacy at reducing hospitalisation from COVID-19.
There is no evidence that the vaccines are causing serious side effects in any significant number.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 11:12 AM
Reply to  Bob

I don’t have beliefs, I deal in facts.
I assume that you have evidence to back your claims? , because there is a lot of evidence that they do have serious side effects. Do you even understand what efficacy means?
And of course the fewer people in hospitals with covid is all because of the “vaccine”, not because it ran it’s course naturally?
How did humans survive pandemics in the past without pharmaceutical companies?
I think I read somewhere about an immune system, but that’s just my opinion not fact.

Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 11:39 AM
Reply to  Wraith

“How did humans survive pandemics in the past…?”
The black death (1346-1353): 75,000,000–200,000,000 dead
The spanish flu (February 1918 – April 1920): 17–100 million dead
So how did humans survive? They didn’t!

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 11:57 AM
Reply to  Bob

But yet we are still here. Or is this just an illusion?

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 13, 2021 3:22 PM
Reply to  Bob

Now those numbers are what I would call a pandemic. Allegedly 3 mill covid related deaths out of a population of 8 billion is not in the same league, is it.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 4:49 PM
Reply to  David Robinson

Exactly, I’m also willing to bet a penny to a pound that the town crier/newspapers, or whatever counted as news distribution at the time, weren’t banging on about how deadly it was. Or engaging in propaganda to make people more afraid, because citizens could see for themselves the effects of the pandemic.
Do you see dead people Bob? Do they talk to you?

Cynthia Dunn
Cynthia Dunn
Apr 14, 2021 11:26 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Common sense seems to indicate that as the only country in Europe to have a coherent vaccinating system Britain is not experiencing the ‘3rd wave’ which is bringing Europe to a standstill again

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 14, 2021 8:17 PM
Reply to  Cynthia Dunn

Go to Google, search covid stats. You can pick by country and cases/deaths
Where is this fabled third wave?

Once you have done that go and look at historical data for influenza, notice anything strange about that “second” wave?

Happens every year! Incredible.

Orage
Orage
Apr 14, 2021 6:33 PM
Reply to  Wraith

So why has it “run its course” in U.K. but not in France?

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 14, 2021 8:22 PM
Reply to  Orage

Simply down to the reporting of deaths/cases. I noticed France have stopped reporting cases now.
See Google covid stats.
How do you explain Texas, Florida and Louisiana lifting all restrictions and their situation improving, not down to “vaccines” or lockdowns.
Boris seems to think otherwise though.

Brockland A.T.
Brockland A.T.
Apr 15, 2021 1:51 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Spring is in the air. The first wave had a spring bump that had everyone screaming ‘second wave’, that never as.

The real second wave was next flu season… this flu season – and as it ends we’re seeing a spring bump as well. Not a third wave,

Orage
Orage
Apr 15, 2021 7:57 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Don’t know where you get your ‘facts’ from but last time I looked France has recorded over 45,000 new cases on 14/04/2021.
France Coronavirus: 5,149,834 Cases and 99,777 Deaths – Worldometer (worldometers.info)

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 15, 2021 9:31 AM
Reply to  Orage

You really are tedious, I told you where I checked. Google covid stats.
For some reason when I checked the cases for France were greyed out. Updating maybe?

Also you can’t read, from your link.
Active cases
-4,734,905 infected patients (99.9%)
-5,902 serious condition (0.1%)
Closed cases
-315,152 recovered/discharged (76%)
-99,777 deaths (24%)

So with those figures, not even taking into account the PCR false positives, and deaths within 28 days for any reason, still don’t warrant panic do they?

If that’s the best you can do to challenge the “facts” (as you put it) that were unavailable at the time for me to check. Then I suggest you try harder.

Aethelred
Aethelred
Apr 15, 2021 10:46 AM
Reply to  Orage

It’s not a disease, it’s a marketing campaign. The numbers vary by jurisdiction according to reporting policy, which is driven by the marketing.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 15, 2021 11:13 AM
Reply to  Aethelred

Or could it be rebranded flu? ….

https://apps.who.int/flumart/Default?ReportNo=10

Enter year & week start, year & week end for a lovely colourful graph.

And yes, this is from the World Health Organisation website.

Mik
Mik
Apr 14, 2021 2:30 AM
Reply to  Bob

Bob, if you choose to get into a discussion regarding facts you would do better to produce or link to some. You stated you are a dr, so we could assume you have a degree and a level of intellect. Why not simply point us the this evidence that was so conclusive it convinced you to take gene therapy that is still in the trail phases.

I guessing you’re a spook anyway. But you could prove me wrong and show this evidence you talk about.

Orage
Orage
Apr 14, 2021 4:05 PM
Reply to  Mik

Why do you require Bob to produce evidence, which in any case is freely available if you care to look, whilst not expecting the same from other commenters? He is unlike others, speaking from personal experience.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 14, 2021 8:24 PM
Reply to  Orage

So you produce the evidence for him then, we have provided the facts. Which don’t match his beliefs, sorry, facts are facts.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 13, 2021 12:58 PM
Reply to  Bob

In my experience, care workers and indeed ANY workers who take the vax do so because they feel obliged to. Yes that sounds feeble but I reckon it’s true I.e. that the majority who have submitted do so because they feel they have to. It’s “the programme”, it will (eventually) mean a return to some kind of normality. Sometimes they take it because they reckon everyone else is (an impression the media is anxious to give). I even asked one vax taker, “Do you REALLY think this will save your life?” No answer.

Orage
Orage
Apr 14, 2021 6:26 PM
Reply to  George Mc

You sound very authoritative in your opinion about what health care workers think about the vaccine. Either you have great insight based on extensive investigations or you are just making it up. Which one is it?

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 14, 2021 8:28 PM
Reply to  Orage

Well in fairness, I have three family members who work for the NHS.
None of them have had the “vaccine”

https://off-guardian.org/2021/04/11/watch-being-selfish/#comment-353758

Kevin
Kevin
Apr 13, 2021 7:30 PM
Reply to  Bob

But if you had the Red Death you wound’nt be treating any patients correct? You would be home for 2 weeks getting over it. Then go back to work. How would your patients get it from you?
Can you please site the studies done before hand that proclaimed the jab safe? I have not seen those.

magumba
magumba
Apr 14, 2021 10:03 PM
Reply to  wakey wakey

I need to add these links to my signatures in many of the forums i frequent

I keep posting them on facebook ….and strangely keep getting shadowbanned…its the governments own information ffs….we truly are living in a world thats inside out and back to front

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 14, 2021 11:37 PM
Reply to  magumba

Funny that, facts from official sources that don’t fit the government/media propaganda machine do get buried.

Like I keep trying to explain to the three stooges, Bob, Cynthia Dunn, and Orage.

Government and media, who would have thought before 2020 they would tell the truth and present facts and not fiction?

Good luck with your endeavours, it might wake a few people up.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 13, 2021 7:27 PM

Yes – the safety of the vax should not be anyone’s first concern. Their first concern should be: “Do I need it at all?” The answer to that, for me, is a resounding “NO!” Therefore the vax’s safety is irrelevant.

But I have never once been afraid of this virus and the more the media tried to scare me, the less scared I became – and the angrier I became. I cannot understand the mentality of those who are sitting rigid with fear over covid. Do they watch The Walking Dead and really believe in zombies? And yes I know WD is shown as fiction whereas covid is allegedly fact. But the methods used by the news media over covid are as hokey as the methods used to chill the audience of the WD.

I firmly believe from what I have seen and heard, that many who take the vax do so because they’re just going along, because they think they have to, to get back to the old way – or something like it. There’s a lot of surreptitious eye rolling going on.

Orage
Orage
Apr 14, 2021 6:30 PM

That is a classic loaded question trying to insinuate a motive for an action by a poster. Why do you think that saying something is experimental makes it so? Do you know what an RCT is? Do you have any first hand knowledge of any COVID-19 patients?

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 14, 2021 8:38 PM
Reply to  Orage

So the vaccines aren’t experimental then? Another one who can’t be bothered to research anything. Scroll further down and educate yourself.

I’m well aware of what RCT means, and once again if you had bothered to do your homework then you would find they weren’t done to the usual standards with these “vaccines”.

By the way, Bob jumped in where Admin had asked a different person to answer. The original post was a good question, Bob starts throwing his opinions around like facts, gets facts, still disputes them. No defence.

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 13, 2021 7:31 AM
Reply to  Ken Markle

Corporate consumerism requires that we suffer psychological, physical and environmental disease, and if necessary die, for profit. -David Edwards 1996

This is modern human sacrifice. -Neil Whitehead 2011

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 13, 2021 10:18 AM
Reply to  Ken Markle

All reported side effects and fatalities linked to the vaccines are available here. Simply open the pdf for the relevant vaccine. Don’t forget, as most people aren’t aware of the Yellow Card reporting system, these figures are a fraction of the real numbers.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions

Brockland A.T.
Brockland A.T.
Apr 15, 2021 1:46 AM
Reply to  Ken Markle

Relax, just take the same nutritional precautions you would take for the flu season; vitamin D, C, K, zinc, and you should be fine.

PowPow
PowPow
Apr 12, 2021 2:28 PM

What a masterpiece! Thank for sharing!

Paul
Paul
Apr 12, 2021 12:08 PM

Brilliant and a sad reflection of the world we live in.

Wombat
Wombat
Apr 12, 2021 11:09 AM

Bob, you need to talk to these people.

A&E departments swamped with patients with AstraZeneca vaccine side-effects
https://seemorerocks.is/ae-departments-swamped-with-patients-with-astrazeneca-vaccine-side-effects/

Bob
Bob
Apr 12, 2021 12:36 PM
Reply to  Wombat

This article talks about how many people are seeking medical attention after having their Astrazeneca with mild headaches, which is a common side effect from the vaccine. The people seeking medical attention are concerned that they are having serious blood-clots, a very rare, unproven side-effect from the vaccine. They are probably not. This article raises awareness for the need to reassure the public that this side effect is extremely rare (1 in 250,000 if that), and for hospitals to create proper guidelines to deal with patients concerned about these symptoms.
No where in this article does it say the vaccine is unsafe.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 12, 2021 1:04 PM
Reply to  Bob

But it’s not “protecting the NHS” though is it?
The article doesn’t say the “vaccine” is unsafe, but governments around the world have limited its use, why would that be?
Also why won’t the ONS tell us?
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsandadversereactionsfollowingthecovid19vaccine
Weird…..

Bob
Bob
Apr 12, 2021 3:52 PM
Reply to  Wraith

People being concerned about their headaches are much easier to deal with than people requiring oxygen and round-the-clock care on ICU.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 12, 2021 4:20 PM
Reply to  Bob

Why would anyone go to hospital with a headache?
I noticed once again you are avoiding the facts of the situation.
Why don’t you provide a counter argument?

Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 8:56 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Some people are going to hospital with a headache not because the headache is severe, but because they’re worried it may be a sign of a blood clot in their brain. It almost certainly won’t be, but mass panic spread by the media has led them to that point.
The vaccines are safe and effective.

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 13, 2021 10:22 AM
Reply to  Bob

But blood clots are only one of the issues?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions

Over 700 fatalities linked to the Pfizer and AZ vaccines, and bear in mind that only a fraction of side effects are reported as very few people are aware of the Yellow card reporting scheme.

Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 11:00 AM
Reply to  David Robinson

From the link you sent: “Usage of the AstraZeneca has increased rapidly and as such, so has reporting of fatal events with a temporal association with vaccination however, this does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccine played a role in the death.”

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 10:32 AM
Reply to  Bob

So why would all these people flooding the emergency wards think they have blood clots?
Mass panic caused by the media you say?
Don’t know what rock you have been hiding under, but that’s been ongoing for more than a year over this “pandemic” alone.
Of course no countries have limited the use of said “vaccine” due to concerns over blood clots, amongst other side effects. Have they?

Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 11:04 AM
Reply to  Wraith

I think we have fundamental disagreements here. I believe that the COVID-19 pandemic is serious and has resulted in many many unnecessary deaths. I assume you believe that COVID-19 is not dangerous and everything that has gone on this year has been blown out of proportion.
I think if I believed that COVID-19 wasn’t a serious problem, I too wouldn’t be fussed about taking the vaccine, so I understand your viewpoint. However the evidence shows that COVID-19 is much deadlier and more infectious than comparable common respiratory infections; furthermore the vaccines to prevent COVID-19 have been proven to be both safe and effective. That is my point of view.
Until you can understand that COVID-19 is a serious & deadly respiratory pathogen which needs to be controlled, I don’t expect you to understand the need for vaccination against it.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 11:27 AM
Reply to  Bob

You talk a lot about beliefs, and then try to say my beliefs conflict with yours.
Here lies the problem, we are presenting you with facts not beliefs. You are either choosing to ignore these facts or dismiss them because it conflicts with your beliefs. You do realise that isn’t rational don’t you?

I don’t even understand why you are here, if your belief is what you say it is then that is like a Muslim visiting a synagogue and trying to convince the Rabbi he is worshipping the wrong God.

Unfortunately for you, I worship no God.

I am driven by data, and the facts that build said data. Not by a belief or propaganda.

Orage
Orage
Apr 15, 2021 5:40 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Your belief are based on data you say. But what is this data? Do you have your own data or are you using official data? The problem is not a simple one because as Bob pointed out his belief is based on data and personal experience.
So the problem here is not the data but it’s interpretation. This gives rise to additional secondary problems. Many like you are selective in their use of data which is generated by someone else. Before the onset of such debating fora, data analysis and interpretation was a specialist subject, but now anyone with a keyboard and a platform can state that they follow the data. Most of those who say this are nothing but parrots, often getting the wrong end of the stick.
The problem has been made worse by politicians essentially making public health decisions which should have been left to professionals instead. The politicians in charge are as deluded as those making the deluded parrot like comments.
Have a good day and don’t take it personally, you are not alone.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 15, 2021 8:22 PM
Reply to  Orage

It’s all official data, using purely sources that your own government have put out. To be clear, I find most of the “official” data dubious at best, unfortunately my job for the last 20+ years has been fault finding, which involves checking historical and up to date raw data.
Then analysing said data to prevent mechanical/electrical/human “breakdowns”.
It’s not as specialised as you would think.
It’s clear to me from a “professional” standing that it’s not just the data that is suspect, but the handling of the data has been manipulated to form a narrative.
That narrative has been repeated, not only by governments around the world, but echoed by the media companies that they pay.
It’s propaganda, plain and simple.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of the general public can’t see the woods for the trees. You don’t even have to go into data and statistics to see how many times the powers that be have made mistakes, and then convinced people that they haven’t.

Perfect example, “following the science” but only when it fits their model. Not a shred of data or scientific rationale to back the claims, and even worse the claims they have made public have been shown to be wildly incorrect every single time, right in front of everyone.

If I was that bad at my job I would have been sacked within a month.

The whole narrative stinks, but it is also clear that recently “the masses” have started to rebel. They still can’t see the wood for the trees, but even they sense something isn’t right.

The very basic fact that the narrative has been completely one sided, anything that goes against the grain has been attacked. Not debated, not debunked, not proven incorrect.
Only to find most of dissenting voices have been correct since day one.
Surely you can see this isn’t normal.
And please stop using the term “my beliefs” that is basically you trying to impose your standing on a debate that you can’t back with evidence.

YeahBut
YeahBut
Apr 13, 2021 9:40 PM
Reply to  Bob

If this was about saving lives or reducing hospital admissions, we could have brought the pandemic to an end last year through appropriate use of cheap, effective prophylactics and treatments with known safety profiles that have instead been routinely demonised, ignored or banned. The steroid budesonide is the most recent one, found to reduce hospital admissions by 90%, but there have been many others.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 11:57 PM
Reply to  YeahBut

Very good point, but there isn’t a big profit margin for existing drugs, it’s much better to invent a new designer drug for a “new” virus.
After all it’s about protecting people’s health, not exploiting the situation to make heaps of cash….. Oh wait

Orage
Orage
Apr 15, 2021 5:46 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Not a good point at all, and not how the real world works.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 15, 2021 11:45 PM
Reply to  Orage

So companies don’t constantly churn out new products to make profit then? The last few generations of smart phones, which have little or no upgrades over existing hardware, nobody buys them do they?
Exactly the same as all commercial industries, or do you think pharmaceutical companies make drugs just for the betterment of humanity?
Not for profit of course…
More addicts and deaths are attributed to pharmaceutical drugs than illegal ones in the US alone.
“not how the real world works” not in your dream world maybe, but in reality it unfortunately does.
The more I read of your irate, self righteous, opinionated nonsense it baffles me. Are you really that stupid? Or just really bad at trolling? Either way, you haven’t made a valid point yet.

DaveP
DaveP
Apr 15, 2021 4:04 AM
Reply to  YeahBut

If authorities were concerned about health most would be educated in nutrition and toxicity, the only causes of ill health.
Most medical “professionals comprehend little of either.

Orage
Orage
Apr 15, 2021 5:47 AM
Reply to  DaveP

Oh what great insight you have. Have you applied for a chair in wisdom on one of our great universities?

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 15, 2021 11:47 PM
Reply to  Orage

Please do share your insights, because so far you have written some very uninteresting drivel.

Orage
Orage
Apr 15, 2021 5:44 AM
Reply to  YeahBut

I take it you assume that most doctors are into this, shunning cheap effective treatment in order to see people suffer and introduce expensive alternatives. But of course they need to see the light and consult people like you who know the truth.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 15, 2021 11:59 PM
Reply to  Orage

You clearly don’t have a clue what you are talking about, when you visit the GP or the hospital, do you believe the drugs that are administered by the staff are verified by them?
Or is it plausible that a bunch of directors (most of which have no medical or scientific qualifications to speak of) have purchased said drugs from a pharmaceutical company sales representative?
I’ll give you a big hint, it’s not the first option.
Oh, and an additional bonus, several medical professionals have tried to do the best for their patients, by administrating known cheap effective drugs, they generally get pushed out.

https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.com/the-stand-the-truth-about-the-covid-19-vaccine.html

Orage
Orage
Apr 16, 2021 10:18 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Wraith
It is important to have rational discussions and therefore not to start hurling abuse any time you disagree with someone. Your MO is abusive. Try to tone down. You have no idea who I am and likewise I don’t know who you are.
Of course pharmaceutical companies make money out of drugs and they do so by fair and foul means. If you have read Bad Pharma, by Ben Goldacre, you will see how this is done. But unfortunately Big Pharma also does produce a lot of good drugs otherwise if they didn’t they will not continue to be licensed. You can sneer at that but only success is the key to advancement in capitalism.
I am not in any way defending big pharma, our government or the establishment. I just acknowledge that this is the system that operates in the world. I would rather we have a more egalitarian, socialist and participatory method of governance that benefits everyone. Also I am not a troll and I am far more intelligent than many you participate in jolly banter on this website.
SARS cov2 is a real virus and its danger is not only that it kills, let us say for the sake of argument, less than 1% of those who get the virus, but in that it is quickly spreading and that it causes considerable sickness in many who suffer and sometimes those who get the disease suffer from long term sequelae. It is a serious public health problem and it overwhelms health care systems in many countries. These are facts that are well recognized by the medical profession, and my knowledge is based on the scientific literature, my personal knowledge and my connections. I do not rely on the press or the government for the facts. It is of course fashionable in this website to denigrate my statements and to accuse me of being a shill or misguided, but that is just silly banter.

Whilst the dangers of Covid-19 are real, governments throughout the world have reacted in different ways and Asian countries in general have responded well with reasonable control of the virus and not much damage to their economies. But some of the richest countries have done very badly because initially they pretended to be prepared for the pandemic, then they were slow in implementing measures to control it and then they used the pandemic as an excuse to feather the nests of their friends and cronies. This is what we should all combat.
I feel sorry that people like me, are abused by people like you, because essentially we should be on the same side,

Kevin
Kevin
Apr 13, 2021 7:37 PM
Reply to  Bob

Like the mass panic spread by the media over the scamdemic?

SEF
SEF
Apr 13, 2021 11:13 PM
Reply to  Bob

“…mass panic spread by the media…” so just like the entire covid farce then. After all, folks 69 and under have a 99.7% chance of surviving so clearly there is no pandemic nor any reason whatsoever for vaccination.

Orage
Orage
Apr 15, 2021 5:52 AM
Reply to  SEF

I have better statistics for you, like yours, also plucked from the air. If 90% of the population have not yet caught the virus, they never will, because according to prevailing wisdom here, the virus does not exist. So that’s ok, these 90% of the population will have 0 mortality from the virus. Good for the90% but tough on those who died before the hoax was discovered.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 16, 2021 12:05 AM
Reply to  Orage

Once again, “statistics pulled from thin air” ?
The WHO & CDC have both quoted that figure.
Better still use a calculator and work it out for yourself, what percentage of known cases have died?
You really aren’t doing very well are you?
Getting schooled by a bunch of anti vaxxer, conspiracy theorists that kill grannies because they don’t wear a mask.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
Apr 12, 2021 6:49 PM
Reply to  Bob

Please quit projecting your sex-death fantasy.
There are always people that will need that care, and virtue signalling your false concern that there are too many is parroting the Industrial Media Message.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 12, 2021 1:32 PM
Reply to  Bob

Unproven side effects?
CDC says otherwise “VAERS received 2,794 reports of death (0.00167%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine”
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html
Why do you never back any of your opinions with facts?

Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 8:57 AM
Reply to  Wraith

No where does it say these deaths were caused by the vaccine.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 10:19 AM
Reply to  Bob
Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 11:06 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Please quote in that article where it says that these deaths have been caused by the vaccine.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 11:30 AM
Reply to  Bob

“VAERS received 2,794 reports of death (0.00167%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine” same as above.
That was copied directly from the link, but by all means dismiss it, like everything else, because it goes against your beliefs.

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 13, 2021 10:25 AM
Reply to  Bob

Was every death recorded as a covid death really a covid death? You believe that death, for any reason, within 28 days of a positive test, is an acceptable way of recording deaths?

Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 11:15 AM
Reply to  David Robinson

No I don’t; I think deaths from COVID-19 should be recorded as “COVID-19 deaths” if COVID-19 is mentioned on the death certificate. This means that the doctor caring for the patient has confirmed that COVID-19 had a significant role in the death of the patient. The UK offers both measures as ways of recording deaths, but having it on the death certificate proves to me that COVID-19 caused the patients death.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 12:10 PM
Reply to  Bob

So you agree with deaths as recorded with covid for ANY reason within 28 days of a positive test result?
No autopsy, and the fact that the tests have been proven to be inaccurate at best.
Why not hold “vaccines” to the same standard?

Orage
Orage
Apr 15, 2021 5:59 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Wraith even if he did a death rate of 0.000026 or whatever the rate you quote above is pretty good don’t you think?

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 16, 2021 12:06 AM
Reply to  Orage

What on earth are you waffling about?

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 14, 2021 7:10 AM
Reply to  Bob

Hmm. Well, I think I will be proven right once the TRUE figures are revealed once this farce is over and the numbers are counted. ONS now reveals that there is a 25% correction in recorded figures.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9467793/Covid-lockdown-UK-Nearly-quarter-people-dying-Covid-NOT-killed-virus.html

You still don’t agree that this has been a complete and utter overreaction, a media driven farce where the scientists took over governing the country because Johnson is so weak and incompetent.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Apr 16, 2021 1:31 AM
Reply to  Bob

if COVID-19 is mentioned on the death certificate. This means that the doctor caring for the patient has confirmed that COVID-19 had a significant role in the death of the patient

This is not so. The 2020 coronavirus act changed the requirements for death certification. ‘Covid19’ can now be added to a death certificate by ANY medically qualified person, including one who has not set eyes on the patient before or after death.

Add to this the hopeless inaccuracy of the PCR test, its inability to diagnose active virus, the fact many labs were running the tests at over 35 cycles (thus making false positives more probable than real positives), plus the financial incentives offered to hospitals for covid diagnoses – and you will agree the likelihood of routine overdiagnosis is very very high.

Orage
Orage
Apr 15, 2021 5:56 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Wraith
Have you read what you wrote? How many people die a day anyway? What is the normal death rate in the general population? Do you know?

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 16, 2021 12:11 AM
Reply to  Orage

I don’t know what you are referring to what I wrote, I obviously read what I write, that’s a fundamental part of language isn’t it?
But it doesn’t really matter if I tell you or not anyway does it?
Because you will only come back with yet another pointless opinion piece.
But please enlighten me, I wait with baited breath.

Victor Neilsen
Victor Neilsen
Apr 12, 2021 3:05 PM
Reply to  Bob

its always puzzled me why someone would bother to take the time and energy to support and push the “self evident truth” of the mainstream narrative.

there can be only one reason.

dollar dollar bills y’all

Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 8:57 AM
Reply to  Victor Neilsen

God I wish I was getting paid for this.

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 13, 2021 10:23 AM
Reply to  Bob

There will be many who suspect you are being paid for this!

Orage
Orage
Apr 15, 2021 6:02 AM
Reply to  David Robinson

I never accuse people like you of being paid to write all this. You do it from conviction man. So why do you accuse Bob of something just because he disagrees with you? Is that projection. Come one, observe basic civility!

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 10:26 AM
Reply to  Bob

Why?

donkey_shot
donkey_shot
Apr 13, 2021 12:22 AM
Reply to  Bob

a perfectly healthy 65-year-old friend of mine got the astra zeneca vaccine in early february. a week later, she died of a heart attack while out riding her horse. the medical finding was “infarction due to coronary thrombosis”.

I suggest you get the mRNA vaccine, too. if you have a death wish, that is.

Howard
Howard
Apr 13, 2021 4:57 AM
Reply to  Bob

The rarity of a vaccine death or injury is rather like the rarity of winning the lottery: it ceases to be theoretical if it happens to you personally.

A year into this nonsense and I’ve encountered exactly no one who said they had the COVID illness – another rarity. So why would people who have gone a whole year without being exposed suddenly feel the need to risk death or injury in order to get vaccinated? Where’s the logic?

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 13, 2021 8:16 AM
Reply to  Howard

After the global experimentation on the masses for over 3 months, those claiming to speak for “the science” could now publish the latest frequencies for each type of symptom/damage, at great accuracy. The fact that they continue to continue to obfuscate, hinder data collection and criminalise inconvenient info should tell you their intentions.

Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 9:03 AM
Reply to  mgeo

After hundreds of millions of people have had the vaccine, at what point do you say it’s not an experiment anymore but rather a public health measure?

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 13, 2021 10:28 AM
Reply to  Bob

The Moderna trials end in October 2022, Pfizer in Jan 2023. This is a matter of public record. All ‘vaccine’ manufacturers have immunity from prosecution should the experimental ‘vaccines’ cause injury or death. After the trials report back, governments may withhold full licence.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 10:34 AM
Reply to  Bob

After the drugs have finished trials, which they haven’t. You are the trial, how do you not understand this?
Go look it up.

Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 9:02 AM
Reply to  Howard

Yeah I understand that people may not feel motivated to get a treatment for an illness which hasn’t effected them. I get that.
However we need to understand that COVID-19 has killed so many people, even if you haven’t known any. I personally know many who have had COVID and have suffered , and I know a few who have died.
The vaccines are safe. The blood clot risk is so small and even the evidence linking it to the vaccination is very flimsy. I trust the doctors and scientific experts.
Ask yourself, if the vaccine is unsafe and unnecessary, how come all doctors and nurses have taken it?

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 13, 2021 10:16 AM
Reply to  Bob

Keep deluding yourself. The facts have been presented to you, on several occasions, yet you continue to talk nonsense.
It’s brainwashed idiots like you that are a danger to humanity, not the virus.

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 13, 2021 10:42 AM
Reply to  Bob

This is arrant nonsense. In 1957/58, the so called Asian Flu killed between 1 and 4 million. In 1968/70, the so called Hong Kong flu killed between 1 and 4 million. In 1957 the population of the world was around 2.9 billion. It’s now nearer 8 billion. There was no media hyped frenzy, people got on with their lives, because, if you haven’t noticed, people die. All the time. No national lockdowns, no governments ruling by decree under emergency powers in 1957/58 or ’68/’70.

The average age of a ‘covid’ death is 82. Why would you want to jab people who are fit and healthy with an experimental ‘vaccine’? And babies, I mean, really??

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/averageageofthosewhohaddiedwithcovid19

This is the same as the seasonal flu in terms of numbers. Are you also calling for the flu jab to be administered to every one on the planet? If not, why not? The covid thing was downgraded and no longer considered to be a High Consequence Infectious Disease as far back as 19/03/202. Yes, 2020.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid#history

Why wouldn’t you consider the Diamond Princess cruise ship that reported an outbreak on board in Feb 2020 as an ideal ‘laboratory’ for studying the virus you believe to be so virulent, lethal and contagious (the UK Govt, doesn’t by the way, as I linked above). 3211 people stuck on a ship with restaurants, bars, theatres and cinemas, all mingling, and 14 deaths in total. You do the maths. Hardly the Black Death, is it?

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 13, 2021 11:35 AM
Reply to  David Robinson

Sorry, the Diamond Princess had 3,711 on board, not 3,211.

wakey wakey
wakey wakey
Apr 13, 2021 11:07 PM
Reply to  David Robinson

maybe not so many died as they were so happy downloading a film in 2 seconds, being on the first boat to have an onboard 5g transmitter, that the ecstasy of their superspeed connection eased the distress ?

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 13, 2021 11:08 AM
Reply to  Bob

‘All doctors and nurses haven’t taken the vaccine. Where did you get that info? Many eminent scientists such as Dr Mike Yeadon certainly wouldn’t.

Listen to this doctor about antibodies.

David Robinson
David Robinson
Apr 13, 2021 12:29 PM
Reply to  David Robinson

Perhaps the doctor won’t be so keen to have the J&J jab now…..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-9465771/US-recommends-pause-J-J-vaccine-clot-reports.html

YeahBut
YeahBut
Apr 13, 2021 9:56 PM
Reply to  Bob

It’s only “killed so many people” because the cheap, safe and effective prophylactics and treatments were banned or ignored. The FDA’s Pfizer briefing said the risk of vaccine-enhanced disease “remains unknown”; that’s not the same as “safe”.

Orage
Orage
Apr 15, 2021 6:10 AM
Reply to  Howard

Howard
Not encountering anyone with. COVID-19 in a year is a feat. But to make such a bold statement you need to tell us more about yourself. Have you been living like a recluse in a desert island for example? Could it be that your social circle is limited., god forbid. Have you checked that all those people you have not seen for a year because of lockdown have not had COVID-19 ? Many more questions can be asked, and I take it that you like many here are a stickler for correct data complete with controls and statistics.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 15, 2021 7:14 PM
Reply to  Orage

I have come to the conclusion that you are a complete moron.
You dispute facts, but have no counter argument.
Facts don’t care about your feelings, get over it.

Stay inside, keep doing what you are told, get your jabs and be happy.

Just remember, you can always come back and gloat when we have all died of the virus.

Orage
Orage
Apr 16, 2021 10:24 AM
Reply to  Wraith

This is where you are wrong Wraith. I will never gloat over unnecessary death or suffering. Try to be civil.

Wombat
Wombat
Apr 12, 2021 10:46 AM

Isn’t it the legacy (or curse) of Thatcher that we are all expected to be selfish bastards ?

There is no other way.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Apr 12, 2021 12:06 PM
Reply to  Wombat

Thatcher was only the undertaker. Her predecessors were the murderers.

thinkingcritically
thinkingcritically
Apr 12, 2021 9:06 AM

Great animation. Thanks.

O/T but relevant to Off-G – I’m trying to avoid google.com as far as possible but it has its tentacles into so many far reaches of the internet. Why does Off-G website use/allow or need google.com cookies? I use No-Script add-on to Firefox to limit unnecessary cookies and google.com is disallowed. Occasionally on Off-G, as in Researcher’s reference below to ‘Strong cities network’, 2 comments become superimposed. Allowing the google.com cookie in No-Script temporarily clears this.

Separate issue but is the google.com cookie linked to youtube.com, which is also listed in No-Script when I’m reading Off-G?

dr death
dr death
Apr 12, 2021 1:21 PM

the google cookie follows you around the internet collating browsing data… all google services are ‘integrated’… merely to improve your ‘online experience’ you understand..

nothing sinister or untoward of course.. if you have a google account you can access this data in your ‘control panel’…. and delete it..

however it has probably already been ‘bundled’ and sold to ‘third parties’ as well as uploaded to the pentagon ‘cloud’…

who of course are a trusted ‘partner’…..

dr death
dr death
Apr 12, 2021 1:27 PM
Reply to  dr death

oh and certain idiosyncracies of the ‘end user’ will be logged these include but are not limited to i.p address, operating system, and location data..

they also have your health records, kindly donated by the british government..

so ‘don’t be evil’….

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Apr 12, 2021 2:00 PM

Hi thinkingcritically, why not send this over in an email, it will be better than hidden in the comments, and it will get picked up by more knowledgable people. Thanks, A2

Esmeralda
Esmeralda
Apr 12, 2021 2:41 PM

My duckduckgo browser says it blocks those cookies and everything on here seems to work fine for me. Try that?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 12, 2021 8:59 AM

Two thumbs up from me – very good animation Sye. I’ve already mentioned this but it fits perfectly with what happened with two customers on Saturday.
A lady came up and asked me if I was getting vaccinated. I said never, and explained that they weren’t vaccines and soon the authorities would bring in health immunity passports where those who didn’t get jabbed would be barred from restaurants, cinemas and shops, etc.
Ann’s response was this: “as it should be, those people deserve everything that’s coming to them”.
I reminded her of Nazi Germany and the yellow Star of David, but it didn’t even register with her what I said. She didn’t even blink. She’s forgotten history.
15 minutes later, still feeling angry, another customer came up to me. Rowan asked if I was getting vaccinated, and again I said never, and that they would have to put a gun to my head first.
Rowan blithely stated: “I’ll be very happy to attend your execution then” and just walked off. And yet on the surface these people look normal. Like anyone you’d see at a suburban shopping centre. That’s the scary thing.
I’ve had similar experience with other customers who branded non mask wearers as selfish, arrogant and endangering everyone’s safety or, like Ann, believe those who don’t get jabbed should be ostracised and barred from venues.

Edith
Edith
Apr 12, 2021 9:57 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I suspect the mistake is to engage with them…you don’t have to explain your choices…you could ask them to explain their choice and then change the subject as quick as you can…you would probably feel a heap better doing that…

it is a sign that they are having a dose of the illness called neptune delusion…that cannot be sorted in the short term.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 12, 2021 10:08 AM
Reply to  Edith

You’re right Edith. As I’ve found out now quite a few times. It’s pointless trying to point out how immoral and wrong and unjust this all is. Nothing I say will change their minds. I have a personal value that if someone asks you a question, you answer as honestly as you can. That’s how I think anyway.

thinkingcritically
thinkingcritically
Apr 12, 2021 11:03 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Gezzah Potts have you tried Socrates’ method – of asking questions? I keep meaning to but often fall into the trap of wanting to use the opportunituty to ‘assault’ people with facts in a vain attempt to convince them of their folly. On those rare occasions when I do stick to questions about their position, it’s a much more rewarding encounter – not least because I don’t necessarily give away my position to the other person.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 12, 2021 11:16 AM

That’s what Edith was getting at as well, but no I haven’t tried that T.

messenger charles
messenger charles
Apr 12, 2021 12:10 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

When confronted, it would be best to scan and print out a few of these and hand them out:

Private Criminal Prosecution Papers Laid Alleging Pandemic Fraud Against Hancock, Whitty, Vallance & Ferguson:

https://yes2truthblog.wordpress.com/2021/03/20/private-criminal-prosecution-papers-laid-alleging-pandemic-fraud-against-hancock-whitty-vallance-ferguson/

No need to say a word.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Apr 12, 2021 12:35 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

”She’s forgotten history.” More like she’s never learned history. She’s probably involved in ‘The Great British Bake-off’ It is a bit like the comments made by Abraham Lincoln. ‘You can fool some of the people, most of the time, and most of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.”

Trouble is though, all you need to do is to fool most of the people most of the time.

Recalling Emile Durkheim’s analysis of egoism and anomie, mass society emerges when small local groups and networks decline, leaving powerful elites and massive bureaucracies on one side and isolated individuals on the other. As Kornhauser wrote: “Mass society is objectively the atomized society, and subjectively the alienated population. Therefore, mass society is a system in which there is high availability of a population for mobilization by elites[p]eople who are atomized readily become mobilized

We are possibly entering a new dark age, a new endarkenment, as Orwell once remarked a world of rabbits ruled by stoats. A world of a small elite – the inner party- is able to sufficient motivate a totally fanatical stratum – the outer party – and the proles, who are apparently beneath suspicion.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 12, 2021 1:21 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Anomie is the word I was trying to think of before… Yes, I’ve read about atomisation and alienation in a mass consumer society numerous times, and the decline in local communities and networks; tho not by the authors you mentioned. It’s been something I’ve been conscious of, especially since I began selling the street mag, and by observing people up close.
There’s a lot of lost people out there DD. And I definitely agree with ‘people who are atomized readily become mobilised’ as we’ve witnessed with the mass compliance of covid directives.

Charlie
Charlie
Apr 12, 2021 10:39 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

I think people are a bit hard on the old dark ages. For a while now I’ve been willing to accept the idea that life in an Anglo Saxon long house with little or no pottery may have been preferable to life in a Roman tenement with lots of it.

martin
martin
Apr 13, 2021 12:59 AM
Reply to  Charlie

Well said Charlie, who wants pestilent Roman cities. Feudal times also get bad press but this was the time before enclosures and people were forced into urban slavery.

Paul
Paul
Apr 12, 2021 12:48 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

There are many ways to deal with the question of ‘have you had your vaccine’ ?

I’ve had a few debates with people and I’ve found it’s a debate you cannot win.

The covid cult will always repeat the propaganda about herd immunity from the vaccine etc.

If and when I’m asked again about this bloody vaccine I’m going to give the following reply:

Well isn’t it shocking, and a sad reflection of today’s society that certain people think it’s acceptable to ask others for their private medical records. I mean would you like me to tell you whether I’ve also had the flu jab or any other jab.
Would you also like to know if I’m on any medication as well.
The only comment I will make on this matter if someone takes the covid vaccine and it works then why on earth would it matter if I or anyone else has taken it.

But each to their own.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 12, 2021 1:09 PM
Reply to  Paul

You’re right… they just memorise the sound bites they hear on the MSM, or go on “reputable scientific sites” that some media talking head has casually name dropped during a report.
I can’t help thinking of the Daleks on Dr Who and their robotic utterances.
I may use your last paragraph the next time someone brings it up, which, given that psychologically, people are treating the jab like the latest big craze (crazy🙄) that’s bound to happen.

Paul
Paul
Apr 12, 2021 1:30 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

The Daleks in Dr Who is a good comparison.

People used to be obsessed with their social media status.
Now it’s their covid status or their vaccine status.

Governments and their behavioural psychologists really must be laughing at the mentality of these idiots.

This last year has been a classic example of how easy it is to control the masses.

magumba
magumba
Apr 13, 2021 1:20 AM
Reply to  Paul

I tend to ask them if they think they are going to survive the coming winter and how come they are so sure of the fact….they have had 13 months of hypnotism….i have no time for them anymore…my compassion pot is empty broken and smashed

Ooink
Ooink
Apr 12, 2021 1:35 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Right on Gezzah. When the takedown of culture is in effect and in full swing only the hopelessly indoctrinated and social engineered will make sense of it. They won’t see, at all, the pure insanity all around them. We are getting a lesson in first row seats about exactly how Nazi Germany conned so many Germans. The concept was once a distant story in history books. Now it’s a full blown real time nightmare come to life. Create fear, create enemies and repeat, repeat, repeat the message. Australia was already hopelessly asleep and ripe for the reaping…the country is deliriously punch drunk at the moment.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 12, 2021 1:54 PM
Reply to  Ooink

Nazi Germany is a really good analogy of what is happening now. I see the insanity right in front of me, as you do, as we all do here. It’s bloody surreal.
On my days off, I hardly go out anymore, just stay at home and listen to music or watch some of my movies and read articles posted here and on other sites.
Anyway, I’m off to bed and will dream of fluffy sheep blankly staring at the large truck that’s just arrived to cart them off… They haven’t got a clue.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 12, 2021 2:23 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I think this video sums it up quite nicely.
https://youtu.be/ojPcF-oLABE
Mass Pyschosis

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 12, 2021 10:47 PM
Reply to  Wraith

Thanks for the link Wraith👍

Drooze
Drooze
Apr 13, 2021 5:53 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Yes good overall but the guy’s analysis is flawed by its sterotypical, western propagandised biases against the USSR and North Korea. His own view has been programmed by the same forces that have engendered mass psychosis throughout history, evidenced by his usual cliched “go to examples” of totalitarianism. So Western countries don’t exhibit mass psychosis? So the mayhem suffering and mass murder caused western imperialism was not caused by mass psychosis? The western world is no less totalitarian than North Korea, Nazi Germany or North Korea! The only difference being: totalitarianism enforced by the western world happens on the periphery of the empire not within the host country. Maybe the author should go and visit Libya!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 13, 2021 11:14 PM
Reply to  Wraith

Thanks. The follow up is also worth it.

The Mass Psychosis and the Demons of Dostoevsky
https://youtu.be/QFie-UCFV_s

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 14, 2021 10:33 PM
Reply to  Wraith

P.S… Wraith, of all the links people have sent me in the last 6 months or so, this psychology series has to be just about the best I’ve seen! Gets right to the crux of why the vast majority are behaving the way they are. I note Moneycircus is impressed with it as well.
Really informative and easy to understand. 5 Stars👍

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
Apr 12, 2021 7:04 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I printed out “The Jab-erwacky” and pasted it on the front door of my shop. Along with the “No Mask, No Problem” sign, I have an effective filter against Branch Covidians.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Apr 12, 2021 11:34 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

When asked for a reason for not taking the vaccine, I simply explain that it is experimental at this point, and that the longer term side effects are unknown. So far, not a lot of push back. If people questioned this I would add potential weakening of the natural immune system. Most getting the vax have not considered this.

David S
David S
Apr 12, 2021 6:24 AM

Is that “Sellfish” or “Shellfish”?

SimonB
SimonB
Apr 12, 2021 8:45 AM
Reply to  David S

Depleting the ocean of shellfish is being selfish!!!

JAMES
JAMES
Apr 12, 2021 2:15 PM
Reply to  David S

A little bit of both, I suspect.

Jacques
Jacques
Apr 12, 2021 6:02 AM

self·ish (sĕl′fĭsh)
adj.
1. Concerned chiefly or excessively with oneself, and having little regard for others,
2. Showing or arising from an excessive concern with oneself and a lack of concern for others.

So, here is the dictionary definition of ‘selfish’. Let’s take a closer look at it.

‘Concerned chiefly (or excessively) with oneself’ – what the fuck is wrong with that? Shouldn’t everybody be concerned with oneself and mind their own fucking business? What does ‘having regard for others’ exactly mean? Poking one’s nosy nose into other people’s affairs? Doing them good, possibly … err … probably against their will? Damn, I see much more wrong with not being selfish than with being so. Insofar as being selfish doesn’t infringe on other people’s existence, which it doesn’t be definition, it’s a desirable quality. As to ‘excessively’, who is to judge what’s excessive? Klaus “Anal” Schwab? Fuck that.

This “You’re selfish if you don’t self-destruct” narrative, a central part of the COVID-1984 scam that has harnessed all them bleeding-heart dimwits and made them fall for this virus crap (“Protect the vulnerable”, “We’re in it together”), is a crock of shit, and must be rejected.

What we’re facing is the ultimate attempt to annihilate the individual per se through the dispossession of their physical existence. Why bother with indoctrinating them with an ideology, eh? If people’s bodies don’t own their bodies, they’ll be better controllable. The purpose of this selfish bullshit is to make the gullible imbecile feel guilty about oneself and comply, obey.

Howard
Howard
Apr 12, 2021 4:09 AM

All I can say of the “selfish” meme is: bring it on, the sooner the better. The A Holes who (think they) run the world keep tossing out one after another term to intimidate the people into submission – and since they’re A Holes, they run the terms right into the ground. I figure “selfish” is their last ditch effort to coax hold outs into the corral.

Who ever thought Ayn Rand and her “The Virtue of Selfishness” would come charging to the rescue?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 12, 2021 9:06 AM
Reply to  Howard

I have absolutely no intention of reading anything by Ayn Rand, however I take your point in what you’re getting out. If I was going to read anything – apart from research on the scamdemic, it would probably be something like the Tao Te Ching.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 12, 2021 9:43 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Tao Te Ching. Great choice. I must have about a dozen translations. As I said on another post, the Penguin edition has a great intro by D C Lau who says that much of the TTC can be seen in the historical context of one of the most hopeless and violent times of all and can therefore be read as a kind of survival manual. The Richard Wilhelm Edition has a similar interpretation. There is a passage from the introduction of the latter which is worth quoting (emphasis added):

“Lao Zi …had realised that the disease from which the realm was suffering was not one that could be cured by any – not even the best – medicines. For the body of the nation was in a state that was fit for neither life nor death. Political conditions had been bad in earlier times, but then the evil had been embodied in some tyrant. The people had reacted angrily and forcefully by gathering round a noble reformer, and in this way had replaced the old order by a new and better one. But things were different in the time of the outgoing Zhou dynasty. Neither strong vices nor strong virtues prevailed. The people groaned under the suppression of their superiors, but did not have the strength for energetic action or for taking matters into their own hands. Their faults were not faults and their merits were not merits. A deep rooted inner falsehood had wormed its way into all relationships, so that although love of one’s neighbour, justice and morals were still preached as high ideals, in fact greed and covetousness poisoned everything. Under theses conditions, all attempts to put things right inevitably fuelled disorder. Such a disease could not be cured by external means. It was better to let the diseased body rest so that it could recover ultimately with the help of Nature’s own healing power.”

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 12, 2021 9:57 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I have a copy in one of my cupboards along with a few others books on Taoism and Buddhism, and er, that copy of The Plague by Camus which sat there all last year thru out the lockdowns here, because, for some reason I couldn’t bring myself to read it. Appreciate that quote – how relevant it is to current times!

dr death
dr death
Apr 12, 2021 2:12 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I concur it is an excellent book, and perceptive of the tendency ‘downwards’ of the ‘mass’ man… but more spiritually orientated placing faith in nature and the restoration of balance..

however the current paradigm is in fact quite different, the current unfolding ‘technocracy’ is actually designed to thrive on entropy thereby managing and integrating collapse into the system, the system will always be collapsing to a greater or lesser degree, this has been happening since ‘they’ rolled out ‘financialism’ and ‘industrialization’…

the ‘crash’ is a feature not a ‘bug’…

not that I think it has any long term future of course, I think these withered fools are boxing well above their weight and are beginning to take a pounding, mainly self inflicted I may add… the herd as usual, voiceless and mainly apathetic and useless.

so another good tome to clarify the intellect would be jacques ellul’s ‘the technological society’ or try the ‘unabombers manifesto’ supposedly drawing conclusions from the former..
though perhaps unintentionally revealing the limitations of ‘modernist materialism’..

they could seem depressing if you are a pastoralist.. or invigorating..

les online
les online
Apr 12, 2021 3:20 AM

I’ve still gotta 1975 copy of ‘The Right to Be Greedy’…i like to read it again at least once a year, keeps me anchored…

Tom G
Tom G
Apr 12, 2021 1:40 AM

Things like letting off noisy fireworks is true, glaring selfishness — there’s no thought for those poor, terrified animals. Also, “If people tell you lockdowns are necessary to save other people they are lying. These people only care about themselves. They don’t care about your lost job, your missed cancer app, your depression, your kids’ missed schooling. The are selfish beyond belief” — Laura Perrins Former barrister, journalist 03/01/21

Edith
Edith
Apr 12, 2021 4:21 AM
Reply to  Tom G

And wearing a mask and having an injection…all done to protect me a friend told me on weekend…sadly after a very long friendship I decided I didn’t need that kind of devotion to keeping me safe in my life any more….meanwhile her husband has been quite ill since having his needle…again I guess he is silently suffering for the sake of others…

oh well some people like to think of themselves as martyrs ….best of luck to them…

I am finding if I just go about my business and ignore all and sundry coming and going in shops with “you must have a mask” can be ignored….realised this stupidity in qld probably arise because a mate of the premier had a heap in storage burning a hole in their bank account….nothing else makes sense…

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Apr 12, 2021 8:17 AM
Reply to  Edith

And here I was thinking that getting the ‘jab’ made you invulnerable to … erm … well just made you invulnerable! So what are these jabbie vax-maniacs worried about? I can’t infect them because I haven’t got the ‘virus’ and they can’t infect me because they are invulnerable.

But off they go, there’s a new strain which has come to light, better get another booster – pity about the blood clots though,

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Apr 12, 2021 8:18 AM
Reply to  Edith

It’s become tedious beyond belief, the Australian media and co. still won’t even admit the ”tests” they have wasted hundreds of millions forcing people to have are fakes and finding nothing at all.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Apr 12, 2021 9:10 AM

I greatly doubt they will ever admit that Marilyn, however given the mass compliance and full throttled trust in the ‘authorities’ here, even if they did admit the fakery of the tests, I suspect most in Australia would just shrug their shoulders.

Glenda
Glenda
Apr 12, 2021 1:21 AM

Terrific! Sharing to everyone I can. Thank you so much.

Denny KirkQ
Denny KirkQ
Apr 12, 2021 1:02 AM

He chose the Highest Good and she chose being judgemental. He lives on and she does not. Makes sense. Peace.

SubTropical
SubTropical
Apr 12, 2021 12:36 AM

Love it!
Thankyou

aspnaz
aspnaz
Apr 11, 2021 11:41 PM

St. Vincent and the Grenadines prime minister, Ralph Gonsalves, told
reporters in a press conference Saturday that only vaccinated people
could evacuate on the cruise ships.

And you thought all the scare stories about the vaccine passport were over blown? No emergency services for unvaccinated: obey or die. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/horror-st-vincent-only-vaccinated-evacuees-able-flee-amid-fears-next-big-volcanic

Great cartoon.

Magie
Magie
Apr 11, 2021 11:21 PM

Buddy B. Sheeple is Stayin Alive

Edwige
Edwige
Apr 11, 2021 11:03 PM

Science says…. no vaccine passports:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.07.21255072v1

The methodology is nonsense, the reasoning laughable and (not that I care much) there’s no peer review – but one can’t have everything.

There’s a lovely 33 in there.

Penny
Penny
Apr 11, 2021 10:45 PM

btw:
Pretty sure some of my fellow Ontario residents are here. Ontario, Canada.
So Doug Ford has us under lock and key again. We have a very rude name for him our household- Dictator Doug is the mild version. I won’t share the other one 😉
This covers the latest coercion from Dougie
Doug Ford, Ontario’s Legal Drug Cartel Boss, Puts the Province Under House Arrest

Niki
Niki
Apr 11, 2021 11:08 PM
Reply to  Penny

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Penny
Penny
Apr 12, 2021 11:00 AM
Reply to  Niki

good one!

Jacques
Jacques
Apr 12, 2021 6:19 AM
Reply to  Penny

No longer a resident, but I do have fond memories of Ontario.

When I was a boy, I worked as a security guard at a public library at the Beaches in Toronto. If you’re wondering why a library needed a security guard, so was I, but I did have my 15 minutes of fame. One day, a boy got his head stuck between the back and the seat of a chair and couldn’t wiggle it out. In was called I, and a 911 emergency call was lodged simultaneously. I proceeded to unscrew the four bolts that held the back of the seat in the chair’s metal frame, and as I was doing the last one, nearly having released the hitherto pilloried youngster, a bunch of fucking firefighters ran in with them huge cutters they use to cut people out of car wrecks. The boy, until then calm, threw a huge fit, probably thinking that they were gonna clip his fucking head off with that thing … Talk about overkill.

I wonder if that was a harbinger of things to come. Like the field hospital, But that was probably intentional. If there ain’t no pandemic, it at least has to look like a pandemic. A makeshift hospital is as good as anything …

We had a field hospital in Prague too. Not 100% sure, but I think it’s gone now. So far, the place has seen ZERO patients. That’s ZERO.

On the bright side, the state of emergency has been lifted here as of today, which means that we don’t have take side roads to bypass pig patrols that were enforcing the ban to travel between districts.

Penny
Penny
Apr 12, 2021 11:04 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Thanks for sharing that memory and yes I bet the boy did think the firefighters were going to clip his head off.
There are a couple of field hospitals in Ontario, that I know of. Both unused while Doug Ford screeches about hospitals being overwhelmed and having to send people willy nilly across the province-

Chris 5
Chris 5
Apr 12, 2021 7:14 PM
Reply to  Penny

Same thing here in la belle province de Québec. Sunday April 11, curfew in Montréal and Laval returning to 8pm, emergency measures in cities of Québec, Lévis, Beauce and Gatineau extended until April 18th.

Response to this in Montréal : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IofGRZTH0Yw&list=PLDjKfDfgbyuqcWd7RB1P5o4g9wVxvdEC5&index=178.

People tend to break things when they get bullied by control addict b****rds.

Penny
Penny
Apr 12, 2021 10:12 PM
Reply to  Chris 5

Hey Chris5- saw video on the protests- it’s possible they were hijacked by antifa/black block- such a shame 🙁
Agree though everyone is fed up. It’s non stop propaganda you can’t get away from it. annoying

Edwige
Edwige
Apr 11, 2021 10:38 PM

‘Will vaccination be enough?’

One guess how The Observer answers that question! Behave yourself – or end up like Chile (which has the most draconian lockdown I’ve yet discovered) is the message.

Roberto
Roberto
Apr 11, 2021 11:12 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Dear Edwige, i could not reach The Observer. I am writting from Chile. Our lockdowns are a sort of “chilean way” one. A lot of people on the streets. The tube of Santiago is always full of conmuters. There is no police or military force capable to impose on us such lockdown. We have a lot of “cases” from a maniac amount of PCR. You move and you are PCRed. Most likely there is a correlation among vaccine and “cases”. Who knows? Nobody here is dealing seriously with such analizes.
Many people said that Piñera is on pandemic mode in order to save his position as president and probably his own life.

Maiasta
Maiasta
Apr 12, 2021 12:58 AM
Reply to  Roberto

Supposedly, Peru’s lockdown is even worse (and the country has one of the highest “Covid” death rates): https://anti-empire.com/peru-has-the-toughest-lockdown-in-the-world-and-still-ended-up-with-the-worst-fatality-rate/

Re: “correlation among vaccine and “cases”.”, Maria Jose Martinez Albarracin has spoken at length about the potential of the RNA vaccines to induce auto-immunity as well as sterilisation, due to the ACE2 receptor’s expression in testicles and placenta. She adds that the effects would not be immediate but medium-term, with a triggering likely taking place in the autumn. The evil genius of this whole operation is that the vaccine is going to produce effects that mimic those ascribed to the elusive virus.

Edith
Edith
Apr 12, 2021 4:33 AM
Reply to  Maiasta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru8HoikHR1s. The first 15 mins of this talk gives the major reasons why all this lockdown stuff is sheer shit and extremely bad for human health,…along with the mask nonsense…it is so old science and totally stupi….it is terrible that we are so ignorant in 2021..

Maiasta
Maiasta
Apr 12, 2021 4:58 AM
Reply to  Edith

Thanks. I remember watching this man on the Highwire last year. As you say, it’s shocking how, in 2021, we are still dragging around concepts from the metaphorical Dark Ages. And not merely dragging them around, but attempting to reshape society on the basis of those ideas,

Edith
Edith
Apr 12, 2021 7:30 AM
Reply to  Maiasta

It is interesting to me because I sense what he is saying is the real revolution we could be having…finally understanding our human operating system better etc…but no we are off wanting solutions to come via a computer program…

as the guy is echoing Uranus in Taurus i.e. the answer lies in the dirt, I suspect he is bringing real info…saturn in aquarius as a blocking agent may be making it hard to get it through right now…

DomoebaMalingera
DomoebaMalingera
Apr 13, 2021 7:08 AM
Reply to  Maiasta

I am convinced the high ‘covid’ death rates in Peru and Brazil are because these countries are saturated in glyphosate (round up) which is very similar to glycine an essential protein in our cell structure, which it mimics. The more glyphosate in your system the more your cells are compromised ( everybody has varying amounts glyphosate in their bodies, diet and age dependant). The water structure in our bodies breaks down because of increasing EMF toxicity which with glyphosate saturation causes blood coagulation problems and death, surprise surprise!

Maiasta
Maiasta
Apr 20, 2021 9:55 PM

Thanks for the comment. I’m sure you’re right about Brazil at least. Not so sure about Peru. I get the impression that its glyphosate uptake is nowhere near as great as that of Brazil (absolutely negligible soya cultivation by comparison). Also, much of Peru’s agriculture comes from campesinos that cannot afford to purchase pesticides & herbicides in any real quantity. I lived in Peru for a while, and can attest that much of its market agriculture is organic (although not labelled as such). I think the key to Peru’s high death is really the antibody dependent enhancement that has derived from the flu vaccine. We know that the country did a massive flu vaccination push, targetting the elderly in particular, in 2019. The link to flu vaccination in ADE syndrome is not limited to Peru but the association there is the most significant(as has been discussed on the Corbett Report).

Re: glyphosate. Blood clotting, of course, is far from the only problem. Prof. Seneff has pointed out how the early “Covid” cases in New York were characterised by haemolytic anaemia. She speculated that the destruction of haemoglobin was taking place because of the expansion of biofuels, because the use of (geneticall-modified) corn for ethanol lead to glyphosate actually being aerosolised by the combustion process.

Haemolysis is one of glyphosate’s many disastrous effects.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Apr 12, 2021 3:58 AM
Reply to  Roberto

Thanks for that. Reassuring.

Ort
Ort
Apr 11, 2021 10:22 PM

Ah, the 5pm Top Story on the local newsradio station, KYW, just posed the rhetorical question of whether reported COVID vaccine side-effects constitute a reason to avoid getting the vax.

The rhetorical response– surprise, surprise– is expressed in the headline on the website version of the story: Expert says COVID-19 vaccine side effects are completely normal, brief.

The “expert” is Philly’s own Dr. Paul Offit, director of the Vaccine Internment Camp Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. Offit is a widely-quoted Lesser Fauci, another grinning ghoul of an esteemed and eminently trustworthy authority who piously leads the multitudes onto the killing fields. (It’s only a suspicion, but think he posts here as “Bob”.)

What a relief! I’m grateful to KYW for this hard-eyed investigative report.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Apr 11, 2021 11:45 PM
Reply to  Ort

Since the “carbon causes global warming” hoax, the word “expert” has come to mean “paid crony”. Whenever I hear “expert” my defences are authomatically raised and my internal alarm bells start ringing.

Hugh O’NEILL
Hugh O’NEILL
Apr 12, 2021 7:34 AM
Reply to  Ort

From memory, said Offit was scientific consultant on the psy-op movie “Contagion” which uncannily predicted 2020. I also believe he was working at the Wuhan lab until Trump stopped the funding just shortly before the COVID outbreak. Suddenly, all these pandemic geeks went from unemployed to expert government advisers.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Apr 11, 2021 10:10 PM

Thank you!

johnny Dollar
johnny Dollar
Apr 11, 2021 10:09 PM

Brilliant

Penny
Penny
Apr 11, 2021 10:08 PM

I love it!
Thank you so much.
The raving lunatic reminds me of way too many people these days

Our garden is starting to take shape and we’ve been doing some foraging- fresh dandelion salad (olive oil and balsamic vinegar) simple and flavourful (tomatoes and onion, but, just a bit)
a great spring tonic-

then stinging nettles- tender- cooking takes the sting out- love them with an egg and toast

oh yah! get outside. soak up the sun. breath the air- do some forest bathing (read up on that if you are unaware)

Antipropo
Antipropo
Apr 11, 2021 10:07 PM

Love it

S Cooper
S Cooper
Apr 11, 2021 9:56 PM

“Cartoon woman illustrates selfishness incarnate, imposing personal insecurities, neurosis, psychosis on others. It is not enough that her face diaper protects her? She is also a glaring example of ones fear level exceeding ones intelligence level. A selfless act on her part would be for her to off herself, so as not to impose on others, or to go after vigorously the sick deranged CORPORATE FASCIST creeps that have taken undue advantage of her condition(s). Kudos to the cartoonist.”

Penny
Penny
Apr 11, 2021 10:09 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

“Cartoon woman illustrates selfishness incarnate, imposing personal insecurities, neurosis, psychosis on others.

Absolutely!

popo says
popo says
Apr 11, 2021 9:36 PM

Trans Zen Dentist indeed!

Hello World
Hello World
Apr 11, 2021 8:42 PM

You might laugh, but thats how the Brits are.. At first programmed by health and safety regulations and their belief that the government wants nothing but their good, well being, which takes you to the truth portrayed above, calling you selfish for not practicing what they preach, while on one side they proclaim everybody’s good by spineless virtue signalling, while on the other hand stabbing you in the back..

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 11, 2021 8:35 PM

Google is a direct investor in Vaccitech, the Oxford-AstraZeneca spinoff, along with Deutsche Bank executives and UK government.

Due to the conflict of interest you cannot trust Google to be honest about any aspect of the Plandemic. Nor is it clear how, through whom and to whose benefit the UK Gov will exploit its interest.

Reuters: Google venture arm backs UK universal flu vaccine company

A private British company developing a vaccine that could be the first in the world to fight all types of flu has raised 20 million pounds ($27 million) from investors including GV, the venture capital arm of Google parent Alphabet Inc.

Current flu vaccines have to be changed each year to match strains of virus circulating at the time. The hope is the new one-size-fits-all vaccine will provide better and longer-lasting protection.

Vaccitech’s new vaccine works by using proteins found in the core of the virus rather than those on its surface. Surface proteins stick out like pins from the virus and change all the time, while those in the core are stable.

It also stimulates T-cells rather than antibodies – an approach that has yet to convince existing flu vaccine manufacturers like Sanofi, GlaxoSmithKline and CSL’s Seqirus.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-flu-vaccine-idUSKBN1F400H

Given the above PR puffery, can you trust Reuters either?

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Apr 11, 2021 9:57 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

We already have a universal one-size-fits-all-ills guardian. It’s called your immune system. Keep it well exercised by constant natural exposure to challenges, by simply living normally, and keep it well pumped up with right diet, exercise and food supplements (mainly lots of vitamins) and it already does the job-description that you copy here, MC, no hubristic-man-made, junky, money-maker poison needed, thank you.

Edwige
Edwige
Apr 11, 2021 10:26 PM

One crucial defect – it can’t be moneytised.

Howard
Howard
Apr 12, 2021 3:59 AM
Reply to  Edwige

I’m not so sure about that. Once most everyone is thoroughly vaccinated, and their immune system has been utterly destroyed…then Big Pharma will come along with medicines to restore the immune system to its original “default” setting. They’ll make a mint.

Edith
Edith
Apr 12, 2021 4:39 AM
Reply to  Howard

Before they get to that sadly my mates uranus and eclipses will find the fixed star Algol who is always a harbinger of death and real mayhem…don’t think they will be quick enough to save those who have stuffed body systems…getting jabbed on top of long lock ups etc will ensure they all go down fast..

Dante
Dante
Apr 12, 2021 12:26 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

There is no flu emergency
There never was
No deaths from it either
What the pharma cartel always did was to pay the scumbags that are in charge of the statistic( docs nurses ecc…)
Why?
So that every year you get your jab
Still every year the flu cones back again they say it mutets….my arse
As you can see now the flu is gone and you might wonder why?
They just shifted everything on the con19
Flu it’s normal and not deadly!

Maiasta
Maiasta
Apr 12, 2021 2:25 AM
Reply to  Dante

You have to suspect that flu is really just an eliminative crisis similar to the Jarisch–Herxheimer reaction. No particular need for an airborne virus to explain it.

Dante
Dante
Apr 12, 2021 3:38 AM
Reply to  Maiasta

Flu it’s for the braindead so that they get the jab-every year
This way they become pharma clients for the rest of their life
You DO NOT need poison or pills into your body for something that happens naturally when your body it’s toxic
Just let it happen do not take f…cking drogs.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 11, 2021 8:14 PM

So, on TV tonight: The Covid Safe British Academy Film Awards i.e. a big empty stage surrounded by blackness and big screens of remote acceptees with a presenter all lavishly dressed …for nobody.

It’s a TV pandemic and always has been. It’s a showbiz sickness. Echoing chambers on TV so everybody at home gets the message: hide behind your couches as in the old Doctor Who days. The Cyber-covids are coming for you!

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Apr 11, 2021 8:26 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The slogan of our age is the meme: ‘let people enjoy things’.

GeorgeMc, don’t you know, people are just having fun? Let people enjoy things!

The people take in endless quantities of entertainment and insist that it doesn’t effect them. ‘I can decide for myself!’ – they cry. ‘It’s just fun!’ they insist, while mocking you for being a Debbie downer. ‘it’s just a show! I know the difference between a show and real life!’

all the while their lives slowly slowly morph into the show – the show becomes them and they the show and there is nothing left of their selves but a character from a scrip.

Dante
Dante
Apr 12, 2021 3:40 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Despicable
As always
Can not believe there are idiots out there still watching these morons

Corarden
Corarden
Apr 11, 2021 7:59 PM

Love it…lol x

Big al
Big al
Apr 11, 2021 7:56 PM

Been thinking about this issue after being accused a couple times myself (of being selfish). This and the proposed or actual vaccination passports, bracelets, or whatever else is out there. I’m not sure how to put it other than, I’m all in for humanity and will do my part if and when the need arises. So if taking the vaccine is necessary for the survival of humanity, or even to keep others safe, I would consider it strongly even with the EVIDENCE that the so called vaccines are anything but (i.e., not vaccines) and potentially dangerous. But the problem is, the rationale is based on lies, deceptions, and misleading statistics. How am I being selfish when there is no need because the entire rationale is based on lies? It’s like those who joined in for WWII (and all wars) to defend “freedom and liberty”. Those that didn’t were called cowards, or later – “draft dodgers”, and probably selfish as well for not joining in on a collective effort. But the rationale for that war (and all wars) was based on lies, so how can someone be a coward or selfish for not participating in a lie?

I guess it comes down to the truth, and who wants to believe it.

Victor Neilsen
Victor Neilsen
Apr 11, 2021 9:00 PM
Reply to  Big al

personal liberation or transcendance is the ONLY answer.

If you are liberated or transcend then at the most basic level nothing can “hurt” you. Fear has no meaning. There is nothing to fear but fear itself once said a great man.

And being in that state means those who consider themselves in power are completely powerless. And THAT is what moves us forward past the braindead, backward thinking elite power morons that rule today. They simply don’t have the ability to see beyond, therefore they are doomed.

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 11, 2021 9:08 PM
Reply to  Victor Neilsen

Please may I ask when they will be doomed?
I’m losing patience here…

Victor Neilsen
Victor Neilsen
Apr 11, 2021 9:10 PM
Reply to  wardropper

ask the swallows

Edith
Edith
Apr 12, 2021 4:45 AM
Reply to  wardropper

I will bite…nov sees an eclipse with Algol…anytime after that…big time being when Uranus hits Algol …still a couple of years off….though of course sadly the main perpetrators of this hoax will probably walk free…they always seem too..they are never on the front line these centuries..

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Apr 11, 2021 9:51 PM
Reply to  Big al

Brilliant.

Edwige
Edwige
Apr 11, 2021 10:28 PM
Reply to  Big al

The true selfishness has always been from those who expect others to destroy their health so they can get a phoney feeling of being safe.

David
David
Apr 12, 2021 11:58 AM
Reply to  Big al

The truth has been blurred………
CGI/cloaking can lie to your eyes
BS/MSM can lie to your ears
Scratch’n’sniff chemicals can lie to your nose

Feel your way though life, say nothing but the truth, aim for a higher platform, be true to yourself and be true to others

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 11, 2021 7:55 PM

O/T Ask Google:

“should people be made to pay for their crimes”
 296,000,000 results

“the pedophiles that run Hollywood”
In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 7 already displayed.

Even allowing for some difference in priorities, one would expect there to be more than 7 results relating to child abuse in Hollywood. I’m not currently concerned about it, except as a base line for comparison.

I’m actually interested in the first result because I am of the firm opinion that anyone found to have participated in a eugenic or medical experiment on people without their consent should pay for their crime.

Their names should be publicised, from the low to the high, and stored offline. Should they be innocent… should the jabbed waltz into the sunlit highlands with no ill effect, there will be nothing to pay.

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 11, 2021 8:18 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The State is taking great efforts to shield its dirty little accomplices.

Many people in the Trafalgar Square protests have remarked on the silence of police thugs and in some cases their Eastern European appearance… (not meant as an insult).

The fascistic plan for a stateless military within the European Union points in this direction (Britain is a part of the pan-European military force, despite Brexit).

I’m not making a point about race. It is standard procedure that you don’t use the police or military to repress their own kind… you use troops from a different region or country.

The State does this so that the thugs will wield their batons with abandon — and to make it hard for the people to revenge themselves upon the faceless.

That’s where facial recognition becomes useful.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 11, 2021 8:59 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

What we need is an Anti-Stasi — AntiSta

Such informal body will collect and retain information on individuals involved in the planning and implementation of Event Covid.

With no evil intent, no compulsion or bullying of any kind, we just want to know who you work for and what you do.

We don’t intend to use the information — the information is effectively dormant — unless we hear a report that you were complicit in:

  • medical experimentation without fully-informed, voluntary consent given of a patient’s own free will or by their legal guardian
  • psychological manipulation of the public, thus rendering them less than fully informed or impinging upon their freedom to decide
  • conflicts of interest such that public health officials, bureaucrats or politicians acted outside the sole interest of the public health
  • police and military acting in support of the above
  • doctors and health workers who knowingly acted contrary to the sole and best interest of individual patients
  • doctors who accepted financial incentives from the pharmaceutical industry and were influenced thereby to commit harm
  • I was only following orders shall be no defence!

Please add!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 11, 2021 9:40 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The above words to be set in stone, cast as any Georgia Guidestone, to be eternal.

It may not be possible to act on these words immediately but they shall not expire nor lose force with time.

When means meets opportunity their justice shall come calling, with the monotonous regularity of a pendulum knocking at the door with each new dawn.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Apr 11, 2021 10:23 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I’ll add Bill Gates, Boris Johnson, Matt Hancock, Michael Gove, Chris Witty, Jonathan Van Tam, Patrick Vallance, Neal Ferguson, Cressida Dick, many at the BBC and Guardian. Just a very small sample of some of the more well known Covid instigators and collaborators. There should be master list of all of them, including those evil people who inject the Covid “vaccine” poison into the old, the helpless, the stupid and coming soon innocent children.

Edith
Edith
Apr 12, 2021 4:48 AM

Each country will need a list…I will put our qld premier and her head of medical qld as a personal starter…

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Apr 12, 2021 8:21 AM
Reply to  Edith

Don’t leave out Brett Sutton and his hysterical dumb boss Andrews and the lying Nicola Spurious in SA who locked up the state over a lie about a pizza box sneaky little strain.

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 12, 2021 1:46 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Antifa was an attempt to twist the original meaning of fascism. As Mussolini defined it to mean open collusion between capitalism and the government. Most people including the readers here think it means totalitarianism.

Researcher
Researcher
Apr 11, 2021 9:13 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

London signed up with the strong cities network. It’s a UN-Rockefeller plan to privatize the police force for when the financial crash is implemented through to global governance. They’re probably mercenaries. Ex-criminals or ex-military.

You use GOOGLE?!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 11, 2021 9:16 PM
Reply to  Researcher

I use different search engines according to the topic. Google is still best for tracking down a particular media headline or quote because it is committed to stealing their ad revenues. But not for open-ended search.

Defund the police — brought to you by the Rockefeller Criminal Combine. The War on Terror was always an excuse to militarize the police in preparation for financial collapse.

The psychological reframing of the police and military is well advanced. Something as seemingly harmless as diversity training is cover for psych programming that turns cops in to psychos — according to their spouses.

Europe’s supra-national military force will go further: the finest psychos mercenary money can buy.

les online
les online
Apr 12, 2021 3:44 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Yeh ! and with so many cities sending their coppers to Israel to be trained in crowd-control / riot tactics, a network of connections is being established…

magumba
magumba
Apr 13, 2021 1:35 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

And would explain the 30,000 additional pistols purchased by uk government recently

aspnaz
aspnaz
Apr 12, 2021 12:00 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Duck duck go is useless in a lot of circumstances. For example, looking for the John Hopkins student uni article in archive.org that talks about death rates in 2020, Duck Duck Go just found MSM nonsense, whereas Google listed it on the first page. Got to try different search engines to get a better picture.

Researcher
Researcher
Apr 12, 2021 1:47 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

They’re all bad but I stopped using google years ago when I found out they were really a CIA front. Remember the pre-2000 internet compared to now? Now I can’t find anything worth a damn.

May Hem
May Hem
Apr 12, 2021 5:15 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Try Yandex – russian search engine.

https://searchfacts.com/what-is-yandex/

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Apr 12, 2021 11:11 AM
Reply to  May Hem

Yandex is pretty useless. They are all owned by the same tribe.

thinkingcritically
thinkingcritically
Apr 12, 2021 9:04 AM
Reply to  Researcher

I’m trying to avoid google.com as far as possible but it has its tentacles into so many far reaches of the internet. Why does Off-G website use/allow or need google.com cookies? I use No-Script add-on to Firefox to limit unnecessary cookies and google.com is disallowed. Occasionally on Off-G, as in Researcher’s reference to ‘Strong cities network’, 2 comments become superimposed. Allowing the google.com cookie in No-Script temporarily clears this.

Separate issue but is the google.com cookie linked to youtube.com, which is also listed in No-Script when I’m reading Off-G?

Researcher
Researcher
Apr 12, 2021 2:10 PM

I’ve noticed that superimposed image thing too. I’m guessing it’s a bug in one of the WordPress plugins. The YouTube script is probably to allow embedded videos. WordPress have taken down blogs that contradict security state propaganda on the covid operation. So it’s not the site tracking and analyzing data. It’s all the plugins which send the data to the security state through their tech partners. They don’t call it the web for nothing.

Paul_too
Paul_too
Apr 12, 2021 10:23 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Startpage.com allows you to use Google to search, but to bypass all the tracking and spyware crap, and denying them advertising revenue.

Researcher
Researcher
Apr 12, 2021 2:11 PM
Reply to  Paul_too

Thanks!

les online
les online
Apr 12, 2021 3:36 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Yeh ! i recall that Trotsky had to bring troops over from the far east regions to crush Kronstadt… the local garrisons being too unreliable, their having loyalties to
the Kronstadt revolutionaries…the counter-revolution won…

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 11, 2021 7:44 PM

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/04/11/uk-government-model-states-the-fully-vaccinated-will-dominate-deaths-in-3rd-wave-and-they-will-blame-children-and-unvaccinated-for-it/

The trailer for the next instalment of the pandemic franchise i.e. COVID 3!

(Imagine a gruff Walter White type voice):

“This time it’s personal!

Previously on COVID…

“March 2020, …authorities told the British people they needed just “three weeks to flatten the curve”. Thirteen months later and counting the United Kingdom is still trying to “flatten the curve”, and the UK Government keep moving the goal posts.

The authorities have managed to con the public into falling for the Covid-19 facade for over a year, in which they have been given ultimate power over the British people, …”

(dramatic pause)

(And then – with menacing emphasis!)

“do you honestly think they’re going to give it up now?”

BUT the big question is:

‘why do the authorities so desperately want to vaccinate every man, woman, and child?’

(Rising hysterical voice!)

“can you not see that this is a ploy that will be used to justify vaccinating children?”

(Ominous music!)

“… at the predicted peak of the third wave there will be around 300 deaths per day, with the fully vaccinated accounting for around 250 of them.

this again leads us back to the question of why on earth the authorities are so desperate to vaccinate every man, woman, and child.”

IS IT …

to impose a digital identity disguised as a vaccine passport…(?)

IS IT …

That they all stand to make a fortune from the roll-out of the Covid vaccines due to having major shares in pharmaceutical companies. (?)


millions who would otherwise say no to the experimental Covid vaccines will now say yes because they believe it will give them back their freedom.”

(Laughter! – CUT ABRUPTLY SHORT!)

Walter’s voice drops lower:

“THIS ISN’T ABOUT A VIRUS, IT’S ALL ABOUT CONTROL – HAVEN’T YOU WORKED THAT OUT YET?”

Dayne
Dayne
Apr 11, 2021 8:15 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Wait till the economic consequences have really kicked in. Governments have been quashing all productivity while simultaneously printing and borrowing money like there’s no tomorrow. Which there probably isn’t.

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 11, 2021 9:12 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I think most of us who can think have realized that an end to this excruciating embarrassment of a ‘narrative’ is not on the agenda.
The ‘elite’ live in Never-Never land, and they will never grow out of their terminal narcissism.

magumba
magumba
Apr 13, 2021 1:39 AM
Reply to  wardropper

I’m still waiting for someone to provide me with examples of tyrannical governments being brought to their kness by anything other than extreme violence…because thats the only way this shoitshow is going to end

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Apr 11, 2021 7:36 PM

I keep getting told in Australia by losers who think we must be jabbed with poison that I should drown in sheep dip or swallow cyanide to protect them from my anti vaxx nuttery.

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 11, 2021 9:19 PM

They are all people who have such faith in MSM ‘science’ that they seriously do not believe that they will ever die.

We anti-poison, anti-lack-of-adequate-research and anti-corruption members of society can have no effect on that kind of lunacy.

They are the nutters, not us, although I’ll grant that the spectrum of their mental disorders is very wide, going all the way from childish naivety to deadly outright psychopathy.

thinkingcritically
thinkingcritically
Apr 12, 2021 9:30 AM

We live in a world of vaccine bigotry now.

Deborah Carol Took
Deborah Carol Took
Apr 11, 2021 7:35 PM

Love it. Thank you!

Bob
Bob
Apr 11, 2021 7:19 PM

Not taking the vaccine when offered it isn’t selfish, it’s just stupid.
There’s loads of evidence that the vaccines prevent severe COVID-19 and reduce the transmission rate. No one has any solid evidence that the vaccines are causing severe adverse reactions or deaths in any significant number. Anyone not taking the vaccine because they think it’s unsafe isn’t forming their opinions based on evidence, just a hunch and an article they’ve read from an alternative news website.

jamie
jamie
Apr 11, 2021 7:29 PM
Reply to  Bob

Satire?

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Apr 11, 2021 8:06 PM
Reply to  jamie

It’s the text for the next animation.

awildgoose
awildgoose
Apr 11, 2021 11:27 PM
Reply to  jamie

I think Bob is doing a fine job trying to set the all-time downvote record.

Big al
Big al
Apr 11, 2021 7:35 PM
Reply to  Bob

You convinced me alrighty, especially the part about evidence. You’ve proved your case with this one, sign me up.

Carol Jones
Carol Jones
Apr 11, 2021 7:41 PM
Reply to  Big al

LOL!! now THATS satire : )

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 11, 2021 7:36 PM
Reply to  Bob

Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group on Modelling reports into the SAGE/No 10/Cabinet Office directorate.

  • ”assuming two doses of AstraZeneca provide only 31% effectiveness against transmission”.
  • “Immunisation failures account for more serious illnesses than unvaccinated individuals”.
  • “most deaths and admissions in a post-Roadmap resurgence are in people who have received two vaccine doses”.

https://off-guardian.org/2021/04/11/the-workers-who-make-the-cloud/#comment-352851

Credit to John Ward’s blog, The Slog: Massive doubts raised about ethics & efficacy behind Oxford-Astrazenica “vaccine”

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Apr 11, 2021 7:37 PM
Reply to  Bob

Rubbish, there is a no evidence at all that anything called covid has ever existed

aspnaz
aspnaz
Apr 12, 2021 12:10 AM

I hate to disagree, flu is now called Covid.

Bob
Bob
Apr 12, 2021 11:54 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

There’s clearly a massive misunderstanding of basic microbiology here.
Flu & COVID are caused by different viruses, as is evidenced by their different DNA and different clinical presentation.

Wraith
Wraith
Apr 12, 2021 2:46 PM
Reply to  Bob

“There’s clearly a massive misunderstanding of basic microbiology here.
Flu & COVID are caused by different viruses, as is evidenced by their different DNA and different clinical presentation”

First thing you have said that is correct, covid = coronavirus = common cold.

That is if it was actually proven to exist as a stand alone virus. Which it hasn’t.

But it still doesn’t explain why influenza deaths have suddenly dropped off does it Bob?
Relabled as covid by any chance?

If the BBC had presented game of thrones as a historical documentary, you would be buying dragon bones from amazon.

Bob
Bob
Apr 13, 2021 11:33 AM
Reply to  Wraith

It makes complete sense why there have been no flu deaths this year: Everyone is wearing masks and social distancing. COVID-19 is 3 times as infectious as the flu, so while these measures will prevent transmission of the flu, it does not completely stop COVID-19 spread.

Jobe
Jobe
Apr 11, 2021 7:40 PM
Reply to  Bob

top humour their Bob. you should try stand-up

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 11, 2021 7:48 PM
Reply to  Bob

Evidence? Now there’s a novelty!

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Apr 11, 2021 8:14 PM
Reply to  Bob

Your “…an article…” alone is “loads of evidence” that the average person just reads the headlines and hence accounts for everybody.

Loverat
Loverat
Apr 11, 2021 11:09 PM
Reply to  Bob

Where’s the evidence this gene therapy is safe and effective?. I’ve been searching for months now, without success, so any help you can give, most grateful.

Remember the onus is on you to prove safe, not me to prove otherwise. The default position is “Are these vacinnes safe?” So far, the answer is we just don’t know.

What idiot would roll their sleeve up with those odds?

aspnaz
aspnaz
Apr 12, 2021 12:03 AM
Reply to  Bob

And not one citation? I have seen plenty of that sort of evidence down the farm.

thinkingcritically
thinkingcritically
Apr 12, 2021 9:37 AM
Reply to  Bob

“A hunch and an article they’ve read from an alternative news site”. You mean an information source that isn’t funded by the vaccine companies, those invested in vaccines or those (government goons) whose jobs (and possibly lives) depend on following orders? You must find these people so annoying.

Are you Dr Paul ‘For Profit’ Offit referred to elsewhere in this thread? You’ll find that psychopaths aren’t welcome here because they have nothing useful to add. Nothing gets in the way of a pychopath’s self-serving zeal.

Take your vaccine bigotry and place it securely in a very dark place.

DaveP
DaveP
Apr 15, 2021 4:25 AM
Reply to  Bob

Interesting that alum is a flocculent in water but according to vaccine vocalists such as yourself its merely an adjuvant when in vivo.

No potential for clots, strokes or alteration to zeta potentials!

Tell me, do you believe in informed consent, individual rights or self ownership?

If so, you should spend a little time reflecting.