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The Capture of Goodness

Sinead Murphy

‘Goodness’ is not the word I wanted to use in this article. But ‘ethics’ sounded too abstract, ‘morality’ too rule-bound, ‘virtue’ too archaic, and ‘kindness’ too corporate (at least since ‘random acts of kindness’).

The ubiquity of that dreaded term ‘safety,’ brayed at us from every angle, has made all the old names for concern for each other’s welfare seem ill-fitting and out of date. ‘Goodness,’ for all its faults, will have to do.

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On Tuesday 30th March, leaders of 23 countries, including the UK, France and Germany, issued a statement on the matter of ‘pandemic preparedness.’

Its key phrase was reprinted across the media: Nobody is safe until everyone is safe.

As we embark on our second Covid year, the sentiment is chilling.

Nobody is safe until everyone is safe is the latest phase in the capture of human goodness that has been the most profound effect of Covid.

At first, we were asked to keep our distance. Other people, for whose sake we do most of the good things we do, were put beyond our reach.

We no longer held the door for the next person to pass through. We no longer offered to carry an old lady’s shopping. We stopped shaking one another’s hand and patting each other on the back. We no longer hugged.

Almost all of the ways in which we knew how to be good to each other were paused; the bonds of mutual support were severed.

Then, for the first time uncertain about how to do good – then, we were asked to mask up. Not for our own sake. For the sake of the other person – I mask for you, you mask for me. Being good to other people was returned to us. But it was not quite like it had been before.

Other people, still at a distance, were now also without faces, and faces are so important in arousing our pity, commanding our assistance, eliciting our smile. Goodness had been readmitted, but for the sake of newly anonymous beings.

Then, still at a distance, still masked up, we were encouraged to take the jab. Not for our own sake – at least, not directly. For the sake of the herd. For herd immunity.

This concept, so energetically rejected as cruel during the first months of Covid, was returned to us. But it was not quite like it had been before. It was cleansed of its natural components, redefined by the World Health Organisation as an achievement of vaccination, its taint of ‘let it rip’ buried under a great enthusiasm for pharmaceutical engineering. Herd immunity was back. And goodness was redirected towards an anonymous crowd.

And now we are told that nobody is safe until everyone is safe. Now we are to be good, not even to a masked and distanced other, not even to an anonymous herd, but to everyone.

Everyone? All seven billion inhabitants of the earth? It is worse than that. The statement issued by world leaders on 30th March champions a concept of ‘One Health,’ which is described as encompassing ‘humans, animals and our planet.’

How in the world is any of us to act for the good of this everyone? The idea is sublime. It may strike us with awe, even admiration, but there is nothing we can do for its sake. Our good deeds, already scrambled by distancing and masking and herding, are now, at last, out of play.

One year ago, we were tempted from the well-trodden paths of goodness onto a seemingly higher road, emblazoned with slogans of sacrifice, decorated with rainbows and resounding with the clapping of people pulling together. But the road leads nowhere. It is a dead end.

In January, in the northern snow, I was saying hello to my neighbour over the low garden wall. So that she could find her key, she placed her little girl, ten months old and all wrapped up in her snowsuit, onto the soft ground. While my neighbour was searching in her bag, her baby slowly keeled over. Without thinking, I stepped across and leaned down to lift her. But it was the wrong thing to do. Her mother snatched her up and I retreated in vague apology.

What is now the right thing to do when a small baby falls sideways onto the snow? The answer: nothing. Goodness is cancelled. Or, rather, it is redirected through an idea so sublime that nothing follows from it for mere humans with their merely human faculties. Everyone means nothing to us. For the sake of everyone, we can do nothing.

But there is a problem about doing nothing. Because it may just be that human beings are only good insofar as they do good things. Goodness requires practice and wastes away from lack of practice. It is more like playing the piano than riding a bike; you have to keep it up or you can no longer really do it. How long before our good natures grow rusty and flake away? How long before we no longer know how to be good?

Which is why, I presume, we now have these badges of goodness: masks, certificates.

Our enthusiasm for both may have little to do with their dubious efficacy in stopping the spread of a respiratory virus, and much to do with our need for reassurance that, even though we no longer do good things, we still really are good people.

Sinead Murphy teaches Philosophy at Newcastle University. Her most recent publication is Zombie University: Thinking Under Control (Repeater, 2017).

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Mister Bump
Mister Bump
May 4, 2021 10:14 PM

The Tories – do you think they want people to stay at home out of work or not? I am 90% confident most of the Tory party want this over. Thats what they fought from the beginning. The idea that they would rather we stayed at home is laughable. Come september this will all be over . The far right capitalists are on your side. Work and business is all that matters. They want protest. Its great for business. Home working benefits many people. And they will never allow it long term. They made a few quid with contracts, but they know their short term gain must end. Now wages have been suppressed this time next year there will be no mention of covid and we will have forgotten all about it. Waiting for the next short con.

The Dead Messenger
The Dead Messenger
Apr 29, 2021 7:56 PM

Her main point is insightful. I’ve seen many videos of people in heavily repressive countries completely and routinely ignoring badly and newly injured people right in front of them, just stepping around or over them, in a very automatic way, and have to think that for at least some them, maybe most, that’s learned behavior, not wanting to stick neck out for fear of reprisal, with helping having become a risk. That said, some people are good, yeah, or try to be, are inclined to be, but there is no ‘we’. It’s a per person assessment. Those I consider good instinctively will move to help the baby or carry the old lady’s bag, AND have open minds, are willing to accept truth and plausibility from whichever direction it comes, AND don’t make any a priori claim on other people’s lives, bodies or fortunes. A lot of people will help the baby, but still put you on the train to the gulag for not agreeing with the herd’s consensus.

TFS
TFS
Apr 28, 2021 1:27 PM

I must admit I marvel at those choosing to enroll in a Phase3 Clinical trial, although I suspect most of them don’t realise it.

I marvel even more at the keyboard virtue signalers on the subject. I look forward to them making themselves known to the Pharma companies for enrollment in all manner of clinical trials for humanity. That should reduce the amount of clinical trials carried out in countries with dubious ethical practices and most certainly on the those in the most deprived areas of society. That’s it, first refusal or any new drug testing starts from the top of society.

In fact, they and the politicians can start by being ‘True Patriots’ and take the cocktail of drugs our service personnel have been subject to over the past 20yrs.

Also looking forward to them grouping together to bring about a Public Inquiry on Masks. Surely they’ll want to know why/how their government has sat by why 10’s of thousands have died, when all it needed was some mask wearing over a couple of months during the seasonal respiratory season.

I’ll leave out Vitamnin D, issues raised by Dr Pierre Kory (Ivermectin), or any number of issues in relation to the WHO and things like Medical publications, it’ll be to much for them…..

Cassandra
Cassandra
Apr 27, 2021 5:39 PM

1) ON DISOBEDIENCE: Why FREEDOM means saying NO TO POWER.

This is the title of book that was written in 1962 by Erich Fromm (one of the most important social-psychology analysts of the 20th century -in my opinion)

“Man has continued to evolve by acts of disobedience … there were men who dared to say no to the powers that be in the name of their conscience or their faith, but also intellectual development was dependent on the capacity for being disobedient to authorities who tried to muzzle new thoughts […].
If the capacity for disobedience constituted the beginning of human history, obedience might very well, as I have said, cause the end of human history…” (we shall get back to Fromm as he examines the question of “authority” …)

2) The MILGRAM EXPERIMENT

Milgram wanted to investigate how far people would go in obeying an instruction even if it involved harming another person (administering electric shocks to a “learner”). The participants (in the role of “teacher”) all reached a critical point where they experienced a conflict between obedience to authority and their personal conscience.
When they hesitated, the experimenter used four escalating prods to make them obey, (“it is essential that you continue”, “you have no choice”, etc.), essentially inducing feelings of guilt and failure in the participants – it would be their fault, if the experiment had to be aborted because they lacked “the discipline”, etc.
The result: 65% of all participants (the “teachers”) continued to the highest level of 450 volts. ALL participants continued to 300 volts. (They did not know that the shocks were only simulated)

Most people tend to obey orders from other people if they recognize their AUTHORITY as MORALLY right and/or legitimate. (“trust the science”)

We all remember the heinous NATO slogan “responsibility to protect” (R2P) which was used to seemingly justify wars of aggression (bombing Serbia, Libya, Iraq, etc.)

Now WE have become the targets of this cognitive manipulation:
The exploitation of MORALITY as a psychological WEAPON.

If you have swallowed the premise that your strict obedience (to tyrannical and inhumane decrees) is necessary to “save lives” then any resistance against the draconian measures is automatically seen as immoral and wrong. So the obedient “herd” can regard themselves as virtuous and frown upon the critical citizens who act in a “selfish and irresponsible” manner (i.e. by attending a mass-protest, sitting on a bench with other people, refuse to get vaccinated, etc.).

Fromm writes “nothing protects us from doing the most cruel things in the name of morality”
He also distinguishes between

• Rational Authority: based on competence (> expert knowledge, guidance, leadership)
• Irrational Authority: based on power – which mostly uses fear to make people obey

From writes:
“Different from the authoritarian conscience is the “HUMANISTIC conscience”; this is the voice present in every human being and independent from external sanctions and rewards. Humanistic conscience is based on the fact that as human beings we have an intuitive knowledge of what is human and inhuman, what is conducive of life and what is destructive of life. This conscience serves our functioning as human beings. It is the voice which calls us back to ourselves, to our humanity.”

But obeying this conscience often requires to disobey the externally imposed authoritarian conscience, often presented as “doing one’s duty”.
By presenting themselves as a moral authority ( harping on about “saving lives” and “being safe”) our rulers have hijacked this humanistic conscience in the majority of people.

In a certain sense this is an inversion of the Milgram experiment because this time the message they want to imprint in our brains is:

• If you DO NOT obey, you will HARM other people [in contrast to:]
• You MUST OBEY even if it means harming other people.

(You can find an important chapter from Fromm’s book online)

https://cognitive-liberty.online/wp-content/uploads/Professor-Erich-Fromm-Disobedience-as-a-Psychological-and-Moral-Problem.pdf

Ravensara
Ravensara
Apr 27, 2021 11:54 PM
Reply to  Cassandra

Brilliant comment. Thank you

2fat2surf
2fat2surf
Apr 27, 2021 10:28 AM

We might have to kill you to make the world safe for everyone.
But you know what they say; If you want to make on omelette you’ve got to crack a few eggs.

mara m
mara m
Apr 27, 2021 8:45 AM

Serene Teffaha, advocate for hundreds if not thousands of Australians, recently lodged a Covid related class action against the Victorian Government and was promptly stripped of her legal qualifications, had her bank account frozen and her business taken over. She believes it’s because she came too close to the ‘head of the snake’ as she calls it,’operational noetics’. Noetics is our intuitive or experiential way of knowing something that is real to us in a way we can’t necessarily prove scientifically. Serene is onto something by using the term ‘operational noetics’ – I surmise it has to do with the creation of experiences that ‘feel’ real and true but are in fact false realities. Being forced to lockdown, mask and social distance because of a so-called ‘deadly virus’ creates many subjective emotions which propaganda can then manipulate to project its desired interpretations. No wonder so many people still want their governments to lock-down harder – they truly believe the world is now unsafe and every human a danger to their health. Sinead is right – human goodness is in danger of being lost if the agenda of the elites is not undermined by those of us who are awake.

Chris Black
Chris Black
Apr 27, 2021 12:39 AM

Nice to hear, good to read.

p.brooksmcginis
p.brooksmcginis
Apr 26, 2021 8:06 PM

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p.brooksmcginis
p.brooksmcginis
Apr 26, 2021 8:06 PM

No More Nuclear Weapons
Here is a free book on Nuclear Weapons & why we need to Ban Nuclear Weapons.
Only Evil Nations threaten life on Mother Earth with Nuclear Weapons.
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p.brooksmcginis
p.brooksmcginis
Apr 26, 2021 8:05 PM

All War is Evil
No More War

Binra
Binra
Apr 26, 2021 7:44 PM

Masking in the image, the form, the associations of the Good, is the attempt to hide the doubt and fear that one is not.

Seeking panacea for inner relational conflicts in external situations, events therapies, ideologies, drugs or people, will bring the patterns of unresolved psychic issues into the arena of the relationship.

Seeking to use something Good as a means to get a fix is the same thing, because we subordinate a natural blessing to serve a hole in our life and become a getter in place of giving and receiving life.

We never did, could or have captured Goodness in order to possess and control, but only a substitution taken from Living Context as our own Prodigal dissociation.

But in Biblical terms, to directly behold and recognise Good! is not a judgement of degrees or alternatives but a perfectly resonant recognition.

Likewise to recognise the Beloved in any situation, relationship or event.

Mind-capture under dissonance is a mind-trap by which to perceive partially as if to have determined or defined Reality – from which to respond to the conflicts that such an identification generates.

An aspect of this is the willingness to sacrifice the living to protect the ‘self-image’, system or identity that is accepted as our self – because it is engaged as protection of self. In this sense the Good seems to be a call to sacrifice and limitation of present for the sake of a goal set in a future, that is seeking to answer its past.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Apr 26, 2021 7:34 PM

“Goodness” has been weaponized.

Paolo
Paolo
Apr 26, 2021 4:25 PM

Did people notice the crazy numbers from India?
The sudden increase in deaths corresponds with the start of the vaccination campaign.

I checked the numbers on wikipedias page for “COVID-19 vaccination in India” (doses) and worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/ (deaths).
The curves for “Daily New Deaths in India” and “Graph of cumulative doses administered across the country” are very similar from late march onwards.
Obviously no correlation between the two !!

Ravensara
Ravensara
Apr 28, 2021 12:05 AM
Reply to  Paolo

Yes – this is a thing.

Laura McDonough
Laura McDonough
Apr 26, 2021 2:09 PM

The mice, rats and other lab animals were discussing when and if they’d take the covid shots, after the human trials were over.

fame
fame
Apr 26, 2021 6:31 AM

What they really mean is
Nobody is safe until everyone “of you” are dead.

The old method of culling the herd in order to save it.

dr death
dr death
Apr 26, 2021 11:52 AM
Reply to  fame

what they mean is no one is safe until you are all ‘jabbed’, and those who refuse will become the ‘enemy of the safe and virtuous’ (the corporate state)and thus targeted..
this will justify the use of state sanctioned force…

time and options are running out for those on the fence… unfortunately, the biggest problem you have are the imbeciles around you..

I. Rose
I. Rose
Apr 26, 2021 3:26 AM

Thank you! So true, and so important to pay attention to the “capture” of language; the corruption/re:versal of words and affects. This is how people’s innate qualities are emptied of meaning and converted into “innovated financial products” (Alison McDowell) via social credit system tied to compliance.

Cascadian
Cascadian
Apr 25, 2021 9:24 PM

One wonders if your neighbour has any knowledge in the field of immunity and how it develops (declines, really) from youth to old age. She should have snatched you up and away from the child because the child was in no danger, but, according to the current mantra, you were!

Thom 9
Thom 9
Apr 25, 2021 9:17 PM

Nobody is safe until everyone is safe.

More social engineering via catch phrases. More shite from the Tavistock Institute of the City of Londons think tanks. More embeding propaganda to justify vaccinating everyone and anyone regardless of wether they want to be vaccinated or wether they consent to.
This illustrates how the evil that is in control of our governments, corporations and NGOs is losing their battle and how more people are becoming aware of the dangers posed by these entities and their genocidal agenda.

Cascadian
Cascadian
Apr 25, 2021 9:16 PM

“Goodness is cancelled”

Does anyone recall the inauguration of ‘elf and safety? Whereby the police would stand idly by while someone drowned so as not to contravene their ‘elf and safety rules?

Owen Crump
Owen Crump
Apr 25, 2021 9:05 PM

My goodness! I really don’t know what to make of everything that’s going on now. Is it because of a virus? If it is a virus, is it a new one or just another flu gone wild? What happened to the flu by the way? Did this business start with someone eating bat which they purchased at an outdoor market? I didn’t know people ate bats. Is that a good idea? Anyway, don’t bats catch bugs, why would you eat bat? Some lab was/is apparently researching viruses in bats. Why? Did a virus leak from the lab? Was it a deliberate leak? Who was funding the lab’s research? Why do viruses generally seem to come from China? Why didn’t the Chinese government take the illness more seriously at the beginning? Or did they? When was that outbreak actually? What do we know to be absolutely true?

What about the masks? Do I really need one? Should I wear two? What if I’m in my car by myself? I know what governments are dictating, but can governments be trusted? Do they really know what’s going on, or is it all a facade? The UK seems ripe for a V for Vendetta scenario. It is written that states without lockdowns may well have less problems with the virus than those that don’t. Can that be true? Why do some states have different rules than other states? Can the media be trusted to accurately report what’s going on? Can anyone?

Regarding goodness, I think if everybody practiced The Golden Rule the world would be a much better place.

Dan J
Dan J
Apr 25, 2021 11:29 PM
Reply to  Owen Crump

Best comment I’ve ever read.

NickM
NickM
Apr 26, 2021 6:21 AM
Reply to  Owen Crump

Wuhan market never sold bats, but the U$ Army Bioweapons Lab headed by Dr.Fauci, in Fort Detrick U$A was collecting bat viruses and ‘weaponising’ them. The U$ regime closed down Fort Detrick because the neighbourhood began to suffer from respiratory disease, and its virus program was ‘outsourced’ to Wuhan under contract to the Chinese Academy of Science (but still headed by Dr.Fauci). Then people in Wuhan began to suffer from respiratory disease.

The Chinese may be inscrutable but they are not stupid. They rolled out a well-prepared Anti-Bio-Warfare drill, and stopped Covid-19 in its tracks. Wuhan celebrated with a street party. But the inscrutable Chinese government still wear The Blue Hijab on public occasions, especially while selling masks, vaccines, respirators, handwash, toilet paper and other Con-19 Virtue Symbols to the West.

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 26, 2021 7:51 AM
Reply to  NickM

The Wuhan street party was for herd immunity in a real sense, as others have mentioned.

Here is how bioweapons and profiteering work out:
Even the most secure bio-labs experience accidents or errors, or violate regulations; e.g., defective protective apparel, failure to destroy waste, missing pathogens and escaped test animals; some officials even sold infected cattle repeatedly -USA Today 2015. Over 1985-2007, there were more than 50 such incidents, mostly in USA -Stop the Biolab Movement, Boston.

Joe Van Steenbergen
Joe Van Steenbergen
Apr 25, 2021 8:17 PM

Regrettably, any goodness we had as members of society was slowly taken from us long before the plandemic was foisted on us by psychopaths, drunk on power and money, for their own benefit. These sociopaths never had any goodness, and they couldn’t care less about us or about what we lost. We live in a kakistocracy, ruled by idiots.

NickM
NickM
Apr 26, 2021 6:27 AM

Malevolent idiots. Stupid but fly. Like TB.Liar, ex-PM and currently director in House of Rothschild; the ‘umble Christian possessor of ‘only a modest fortune’.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 25, 2021 7:52 PM

You could put it more cynically: If no-one is safe until everyone is safe, then clearly we must find this “everyone”. I confidently predict that everyone could look for this “everyone” for all time and never find this peculiar multi-headed creature.

Perhaps we should embrace the opposite formula: We are all “safe” (i.e. we can carry on living) if no-one is safe. As long as we can assure ourselves that no-one is safe (which is inevitably true at all times) then we can live!

Amy
Amy
Apr 26, 2021 3:37 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Reminds me of the e.e. cummings poem “Anyone lived in an anyhow time.” A classic, and perfect for our times about going the lonely path against conformity.

Ort
Ort
Apr 26, 2021 8:59 PM
Reply to  Amy

No offense, but the poem is actually entitled “anyone lived in a pretty how town“. The parenthesis is mine; I don’t know offhand if cummings preferred his titles unpunctuated. 😉

The poem is a bit long to paste in full here, but here’s a link: https://poets.org/poem/anyone-lived-pretty-how-town

Speaking of cummings’ idiosyncratic punctuation, or lack thereof, I notice that, ironically, the Poets.org webpage-composers capitalize his name.

Jim mcDonagh
Jim mcDonagh
Apr 28, 2021 3:31 PM
Reply to  Ort

Another product of American “exceptionalism” who was influenced by James Joyce’s ramblings in Ulysses

NickM
NickM
Apr 26, 2021 5:12 AM
Reply to  George Mc

We are all “safe” (i.e. we can carry on living) if no-one is safe.

Thanks for the reminder. So we can go on living (until we die) because no-one and no-thing is safe; not even the Universe.

Tout casse, tout lasse, tout passe. — French proverb

Nil nisi Divinum stabile est, caetera fumus. — Andrea Mantegna

my parents said know
my parents said know
Apr 26, 2021 5:38 PM
Reply to  George Mc

For a while there, clerks at check-out would say “stay safe!” I I would respond “No! Take risks! Have fun! Live your life!”
I haven’t heard “stay safe” for a couple of months now.

LKing
LKing
Apr 26, 2021 11:05 PM

I love your reply. And you’re right, people stopped saying it and I didn’t even notice.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 25, 2021 7:38 PM

Yes indeed – the central contradiction of the rationale behind the covid guidelines has frequently struck me.  You are told that e.g. the mask is not for your protection but for the protection of others – while those others are also wearing masks which are not for their protection but for the protection of others. Where are these “others” who are being protected? Where is the abstract humanity that is being saved?

Over to Soren Kierkegaard:

The public is not a people, it is not a generation, it is not a simultaneity, it is not a community, it is not a society, it is not an association, it is not those particular men over there, because all these exist because they are concrete and real; however, no single individual who belongs to the public has any real commitment; some times during the day he belongs to the public, namely, in those times in which he is nothing; in those times that he is a particular person, he does not belong to the public. Consisting of such individuals, who as individuals are nothing, the public becomes a huge something, a nothing, an abstract desert and emptiness, which is everything and nothing. . . .

Reachable Spike
Reachable Spike
Apr 25, 2021 7:15 PM

“No one is safe until everyone is safe” is the most manipulative and insidious slogan that has emerged during this whole disaster.

It preys on the recognition of the primacy of compassion and then utterly distorts it.

No one is at peace until all are at peace. No one is an island. Utterly true and universally recognized. But that’s not what this is about. It’s about exerting tremendous pressure on everyone to get the vaccine, which is ultimately about the machinations of the pharmaceutical companies.

No one is ever safe. Illness can happen at any time, caused by the complexity of circumstance we all face. You don’t bypass the system simply by getting a shot. As a matter of fact, respiratory virus vaccines do not reduce the incidence of respiratory viral disease, only redistribute the relative importance of the many agents which could be the cause.

But now anyone who refuses the vaccine is declared a villain who is committing a deadly crime against everyone. The horror of that thought manipulation should make everybody shudder because of the parallels to past campaigns of propaganda which had profound deadly consequences.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Apr 25, 2021 8:26 PM

”No-one is safe until everyone is safe.” Sounds great but what it really means is that, No-one is ‘safe’ until everyone has been injected with this very dubious ‘vaccine’. Moreover, the long-term effects of these vaccines are yet to make their effects manifest. In the meantime social absurdities like wearing masks are not simply ridiculous as being badges of servitude, akin to branding cattle, but actually harmful to health.

Edith
Edith
Apr 25, 2021 8:58 PM

Nah all wrong for aussies…maybe they wear a mask to keep others safe but they are all getting “the vax” so they can travel again…the govt may be carrying on about safe for others but I have never really heard a soul state that reason….always I want to travel again…we are a mob of gypsies here…we will swallow the passport at the first hint…idiots one and all..

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 26, 2021 7:56 AM

Meanwhile, the richest get richer (especially in 2020), and the poorest get poorer.

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 3:31 PM
Reply to  mgeo

[Meanwhile, the richest get richer (especially in 2020), and the poorest get poorer.]

“Meanwhile, the richest get richer (especially in 2020)…”

Generally and factually, yes.

“…and the poorest get poorer.”

Generally and factually, no.

PS. I understand you have good intent to make a strong statement about what you believe is not righteous in this world. I also appreciate your aspiration to righteousness. But please do not misrepresent.

Ravensara
Ravensara
Apr 28, 2021 12:11 AM

No-one is safe who takes an experimental vaccine. Because it’s experimental.

Mishko
Mishko
Apr 25, 2021 6:55 PM

Inverted goodness as in satanic goodness.

WaffleStaffel
WaffleStaffel
Apr 25, 2021 5:48 PM

Funny how none of these organizations place much urgency behind the idea that “Until no one is hungry, everyone’s hungry” -given how death due to malnutrition eclipses so-called “COVID” deaths.

NickM
NickM
Apr 25, 2021 7:42 PM
Reply to  WaffleStaffel

About 6 Million die from lack of food PER YEAR. This is the rough figure I have used since 1970. Thanks to your reminder, I looked up the latest figures. Things haven’t changed much:

Approximately 3.1 million children die from undernutrition EACH YEAR (UNICEF, 2018a). Hunger and undernutrition contribute to more than half of global child deaths, as undernutrition can make children more vulnerable to illness (UNICEF, 2018a).

https://www.worldhunger.org/world-child-hunger-facts/

3 Million per annum — and that’s only the children.

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 26, 2021 8:06 AM
Reply to  NickM

Those starving to death are 9 million/year -theworldcounts.com 2020. Hunger afflicted 820 million in 2018 -WHO 2019. This is besides death and illness from (a) lack of essential nutrients (b) cheap fake foods the poor consume (c) industrial poisoning and adulteration of food.

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 3:45 PM
Reply to  mgeo

[Those starving to death are 9 million/year -theworldcounts.com 2020.]

I have had some interactions with the downtrodden. I am talking living (nay, roaming) in horse-drawn carts from town to town eking out an existence. Or under reed huts in arid areas.

To very many of them, you with the spare time to read and comment, and the Internet bandwidth and shiny devices for commenting on this blog, yes you, are “the rich.”

They think you have a great life, and can surely spare much, much more of your wonderful life and means for them.

Yes you. You are “the rich.”

PS. Maybe you will get the point I am trying to make, although human psychology (for example, cognitive dissonance) suggests that is unlikely. But yes, you seem to be pontificating, insinuating, and virtue-signalling endlessly about how those so much richer than you are “bad,” but blindly ignoring that – to the real poor – you may appear just as “bad.”

Ravensara
Ravensara
Apr 28, 2021 12:13 AM
Reply to  NickM

And therefore we know the news is not about saving people. Ipso facto.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2021 5:46 PM

Everybody safe has never meant the same thing as trying to save everybody. Actually it means the opposite. People at the margin will be sacrificed to the emotional contentment of the whole.

This began with the health and safety culture that said firefighters should stand and listen to screams of burning people rather than take a risk. There had to be the required number before entering a building. The state employees should be safe.

Such creeping, seemingly abstract rules offended many committed, strong and selfless people yet it became the orthodoxy.

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Apr 25, 2021 5:57 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

And yet the google the word “safetyism” and all you get is “safetyism is not real” and such. Like this NYT article, which is pure gibberish.

Safetyism, a term first used in the book “The Coddling of the American Mind,” by Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt, denotes a moral culture in which people are unwilling to make trade-offs demanded by other practical and moral concerns. Rather than seeing safety as one concern among many, it becomes a sacred value.
Some point to statements like the declaration by Gov. Andrew Cuomo of New York that “if everything we do saves just one life, I’ll be happy,” as evidence that safetyism has taken over what should be a more nuanced calculation about how to reopen.
While there is evidence of this kind of thinking in some politicians’ statements and policies, the more pressing problem is what we don’t see. The crisis has been marked by a rush to label, and demean, the other side. Partisans on both sides lack even a modicum of curiosity about their political opponents’ views regarding how to solve the Covid-19 crisis. Certitude is pervasive.”

Words words words. Meaningless words words words. Certitude is pervasive. What we don’t see. Rush to label is the crisis. Words words words.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2021 6:32 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

I should add that I’m not criticising in any way people who put their lives on the line. My grandfather was a volunteer fireman in WW2 and very much respected the full-timers.

Bureaucrats don’t want responsibility or to be held accountable. That is why they forbid firefighters to do the job they signed up for. Bureaucrats being cowards with time on their hands then construct an ideology to hide their intentions (para-logic making sense within a pseudo-reality, ie totalitarian, world) in which bureaucrats — and only bureaucracts — can save the Earth, which they bestride in their Lycra shorts and size-S Superman shirts stretched over concave chests. (Britons will recognize Dominic Cummings.)

This pathetic ‘safe’ ideology has made its way into schools and is now taught as the golden rule.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2021 6:57 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

And then came 9/11 when the bureaucrats murdered firefighters in cold blood.

I shan’t divert, but not since WW2 when bankers tossed the flower of youth onto a bony funeral pyre was there such a blatant Satanic effort to lead men up the stairs to their deaths.

Up the Rockefellers’ World Trade Center they ran, carrying pounds of equipment on their backs, choking in the smoke but confident in their strength to save.

But snake oil Rockefeller… he made his fortune from kerosene… and kerosene, he would have it, demolished his WTC, even as he triggered the Thermite, floor after floor, and lowered his bills for asbestos removal.

What’s a Golgotha. What’s a few bones.

‘Nobody is safe until everyone is safe’ — may the paid functionaries choke to death on those words.

Peter
Peter
Apr 26, 2021 4:25 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Silverstein was the owner of the complex at the time. He made a killing from the insurance. I am reasonably certain towers 1 & 2 were nuked using 4 W54 variable yield sub kiloton warheads in each tower, triggered in synchronised top down sequences.

Mishko
Mishko
Apr 25, 2021 6:58 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Playing it safe: winning by not playing. =)

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2021 6:59 PM
Reply to  Mishko

May I have the honour to splay their gullets.

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 26, 2021 8:14 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

On 9/11, the fire chiefs in NYC were confident, based on the evidence and experience, that (a) the fires had not undermined the buildings structurally (b) their men could end the blaze. Yet, magically, many office workers, first responders and immediate neighbours in NYC became human sacrifice that day. Many have since continued to die from the effects of nuclear poisoning and radiation – never admitted as such.

jude
jude
Apr 25, 2021 5:28 PM

New covid era riddle, If a person boasts a virtuous act on their facebook page, does it matter if it really happened?

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Apr 25, 2021 5:00 PM

What is now the right thing to do when a small baby falls sideways onto the snow? The answer: nothing.”

We Are All Eloi Now.

Howard
Howard
Apr 25, 2021 4:58 PM

Most never were “good” to begin with. They merely internalized a taught ritual: “now do this, do that, do the other: look at how good you are!” It’s like training a dog: “Good boy!” – not because he did something good but because he obeyed.

Good, to humanity, equals obedience – and nothing more. So you can be as “good” as gold simply by obeying the dictates of masking, distancing, snubbing, getting jabbed. Let the babies fall over in the snow – hell: let them fall into the swimming pool.

Better they should drown than you should risk rendering them diseased – right?

“Oh we didn’t mean it that extreme!” the fools who make the dictates might protest. To which I answer: “Then don’t make the f*cking dictate in the first place!”

Edwige
Edwige
Apr 25, 2021 4:18 PM

Trump during the week on the pausing of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine (you know, those good people who put asbestos in baby talc):

“This moronic move is a gift to the anti-vax movement, The science bureaucrats are fueling that deranged pseudo-science.”

Does anyone still not see what Trump is?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2021 5:00 PM
Reply to  Edwige

The analysis I saw somewhere (can’t remember) was that it’s J&J’s rustication is a gift to Pfizer and some expect the same fate for AZ.

Pfizer’s biggest shareholders include the likes of BlackRock, the world’s largest investor in fossil fuels and a clue to the significance of the “Rock” part of the name. Pfizer has many times tried to merge with AZ (BlackRock nominally has 7.6% of AstraZeneca and 7.1 % of Pfizer)

Thom1111
Thom1111
Apr 25, 2021 6:30 PM
Reply to  Edwige

I commented on another website on that story a few days ago. The words that Trump ostensibly uttered do not sound at all like his usual choice of words. Yet i have found no renunciation from him calling it fake news. So one has to seriously question Trump from this point on.

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 25, 2021 8:05 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Trump is gone.

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 4:00 PM
Reply to  Edwige

[Does anyone still not see what Trump is?]

A politician? Who plays the “those others over there are bad” game (e.g. by stereotyping and labeling as “anti-vax”) just like almost all other politicians?

And that, my friend, is what gets them into government.

And that, therefore, is what government comes to be.

Yet so many people still believe in government.

If only the “right” people could run government.

Yeah, right. As if that is going to happen when the whole system in and of itself enables the “success” of the Trumps, Bidens, Bojos, Starmers, Erdogans, Merkels…

Timothy Drayton
Timothy Drayton
Apr 25, 2021 4:13 PM

It looks like vaccination passports are coming here in Cyprus.

From today’s Cyprus Mail:

It (the new lockdown) is set to last from April 26 to May 9, after which the public must present a vaccination certificate, a negative test or proof that they were ill with the virus in the past three months to enter catering sites, places where people gather, gyms, retail outlets, theatres. It was not immediately clear if it included supermarkets as well.

Arcabuz
Arcabuz
Apr 25, 2021 5:23 PM

What’s on May 9? In Spain the State of Alarm also ends that day

Timothy Drayton
Timothy Drayton
Apr 25, 2021 5:33 PM
Reply to  Arcabuz

Nothing special. It’s interesting that the period includes Orthodox Easter this coming weekend.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Apr 25, 2021 8:56 PM
Reply to  Arcabuz

i think the first asteroid impact, or is it an alien invasion, is due sheduled then ; )

Niki
Niki
Apr 25, 2021 9:02 PM
Reply to  Arcabuz
Peter
Peter
Apr 26, 2021 4:29 AM
Reply to  Niki

Victory for the central banking cartel.

Bored now
Bored now
Apr 25, 2021 3:29 PM

Great article Sinead. I think the slogan ‘nobody is safe until everyone is safe’ is as unobtainable as ‘zero Covid’ and ‘zero carbon’. These slogans ensure the continuation of moral sounding agendas, as though these global institutions were maintaining a spiritual path or an eternal quest such as ‘the search for the holy grail’. As with the UN’s sustainability goals and the WEF’s Great Reset the art is to read between the lines and not accept at face value the ‘goodness’ of global institution’s words.
As for ‘goodness’ I think the responsibility lies with each of us as individuals as to how we act. Big love!

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 2:07 PM

A lesson in integrity ; Don’t do the following:

“While my neighbour was searching in her bag, her baby slowly keeled over. Without thinking, I stepped across and leaned down to lift her. But it was the wrong thing to do. Her mother snatched her up and I retreated in vague apology.What is now the right thing to do when a small baby falls sideways onto the snow? The answer: nothing.”

Obviously, that little story is there for one reason only, namely to bolster the author’s own narrative, which I had no real problem with – until this. Even if the author actually did do what she reports there (I don’t have any solid reason to doubt), she made a mistake using it in her above article because the act itself was a mistake. She could have just spoke to her neighbor. “Excuse me…”

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Apr 25, 2021 2:30 PM
Reply to  Arby

????????? goes for what you wrote.

And I also wonder what happened to your promised lesson in integrity.

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 3:04 PM

“I also wonder” What can I do about that?

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Apr 25, 2021 6:13 PM
Reply to  Arby

Don’t tempt us.

THX-1160
THX-1160
Apr 25, 2021 2:43 PM
Reply to  Arby

“excuse me, but your child has just run out into heavy traffic. are you ok with that, or would you like me to try to retrieve her?”

“excuse me, but your son has just set his sister’s hair on fire. would you like me to attempt to extinguish the flames, or should we let them play by themselves?”

“excuse me, but your child is playing with an alligator. should we find him a better pet, or let him experience wildlife for himself?”

SocioPsychopatriotism
SocioPsychopatriotism
Apr 25, 2021 2:49 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

Excuse me, why, as a parent, are you not there? And why, do you suggest industrialist technocrat horseshit should be a parent to your child?

Now I know why you’re such a piece of shit, THX, you never had a father.

Btw, considering aspnaz/thx’s comments, you have a choice.

THX-1160
THX-1160
Apr 25, 2021 3:25 PM

I think your (mind-)control program is malfunctioning, Psycho. maybe you should check your meds, or your circuits, as the case may be.

but anyway, how are things at work, these days?

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Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Apr 26, 2021 12:28 AM
Reply to  THX-1160

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THX-1160
THX-1160
Apr 26, 2021 4:35 AM

you’d think that a heavily-engineered process like that, would be capable of producing more coherent discourse than that above. it seems like these disinfo entities actually want you to know what they are. maybe it’s just that the (sub)human spook operatives involved are illiterate fascist morons. who else would want such a job?

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Apr 25, 2021 3:57 PM

??????? Excuse me but I´m running out of questionmarks , can you please stop being so enigmatic ?

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Apr 25, 2021 6:16 PM

Are you a friend of Arby, of course he won’t have many, or do you just sit at the next desk?

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Apr 26, 2021 12:28 AM

God, I’m glad at least some people around here have a sense of what’s actually going on.

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 4:05 PM

[Now I know why you’re such a piece of shit, THX, you never had a father.]

Aaaannndd, you’ve revealed so much about your personality.

THX-1160
THX-1160
Apr 27, 2021 12:33 AM
Reply to  suddyan

don’t worry, it’s just a CIA disinfo cyborg.

Derek Williams
Derek Williams
Apr 25, 2021 2:55 PM
Reply to  Arby

Surely good impulses can be acted upon without asking for permission or in this case, alerting the parent? Without getting into a long discussion about what constitutes “ good impulses” ….

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 3:11 PM
Reply to  Derek Williams

Anyone who drew the conclusion that I was suggesting otherwise just can’t think or deliberately sows confusion. If the mother was right there, Who would grab the child instead of speaking to the mother? If the mother was not right there and the good citizen was, then okay, perhaps. Even then, I’d speak as I was acting. If I really have to explain that to people, then those are people I don’t want to talk to. And some of those who responded to my comment are already among those who I don’t want to speak to.

Fact Checker
Fact Checker
Apr 25, 2021 5:03 PM
Reply to  Arby

The mother had put the child down specifically to fish for her keys deep in her bag. Therefore, she was not all well-positioned to prevent injury to the child as the narrator. It’s all quite explicitly put.

You’re ‘on the spectrum,’ as they say–no, Arby?

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 5:14 PM
Reply to  Fact Checker

I usually ignore you. Your comment gives me no reason to re-evaluate.

Derek Williams
Derek Williams
Apr 25, 2021 5:25 PM
Reply to  Arby

Perhaps you have hit the nail on the head in terms of people being paralysed by fear. Don’t act, as it is not within your rights to assume that the other person needs/wants your assistance.
Anyone who has dealt with infants will know that shit can happen pretty quickly when you are on your own, juggling a set of car keys or searching for a nappy.
Certainly not trying to sow confusion Arby, just asking why we have to be so afraid of each other.

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 4:16 PM
Reply to  Arby

[If the mother was right there, Who would grab the child instead of speaking to the mother?]

I would. I have done it in the past. When I see somebody in a threatening situation I tend to just react.

I would suggest the overwhelming part of humanity is “programmed” or “designed” or “created” (whichever is your fancy) that way, and evolutionary psychology and neurology studies support that. I am not going to go into the details of the need for speedy reaction for human survival and how the brain is geared to make lightning fast decisions at some times to avoid endlessly philosophising about the merits of some urgent choice (e.g. fight or flight).

PS. I have no problem with rational philosophising after the situation is over. But I have learned too much about the human brain to expect it to do so in threatening situations (even if they are wrongly perceived as threatening in the urgent moment).

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Apr 25, 2021 6:09 PM
Reply to  Arby

While you don’t have any reason to doubt the story, you nevertheless decided to plant the seeds of doubt. Of course, the correct thing to do was to try to save the baby and not be deterred by the mother’s or your obvious brand of corporate stupidity. Isn’t it time you were off duty corporal.

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 6:10 PM

Seriously? Buzz off.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Apr 25, 2021 7:25 PM
Reply to  Arby

What?!

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 4:03 PM
Reply to  Arby

[She could have just spoke to her neighbor. “Excuse me…”]

Sorry, but are you not human? Have you never in your life instinctively reacted to assist another human?

SocioPsychopatriotism
SocioPsychopatriotism
Apr 25, 2021 2:07 PM

Well what society has been doing is endangering everyone.

End Rockefeller Medicine
End Rockefeller Medicine
Apr 25, 2021 2:03 PM

Losing our rights “for the greater good” has a name, it’s called Communitarianism. Sounds all warm and fuzzy, until you understand the Trojan horse effect, as described in this excellent article.

The New Model: Communitarianism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q9CSKPJ-_Q&t=24s

Listen to Bill Clinton’s doublespeak regarding Communitarianism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rg5qB3H8HfE

Just as we had to learn economics in order to debunk neoliberalism, which is a set of mathematic models that only work in theory, not in the real world, we must also learn the basics of biology and medicine. JD Rockefeller, who seized control of schools of medicine, promoted Pasteur’s germ theory, which should have been long forgotten. Pasteur himself recanted it at the end of his life. Antoine Bechamp’s terrain theory was correct all along. A person’s state of health, whether it is more alkaline than acidic, is what determines susceptibility to illness. Over-acidity is the leading cause of disease.

“It should be common knowledge that all humans are carrying hundreds of trillions of viruses inside their bodies at all times, while living in a virtual sea of viruses. The human body is a source generator of viruses, along with all other eukaryotic life forms. Everyone is full of every kind of virus, all the time. That is a simple “known” factor that requires no test. It also has always been the case and corona viruses have always been around since before humans came to exist on the planet, more than 135,000 years ago.

Viruses are just a part of the normal life cycle of plants and animals that are eukaryotic. They are dead waste matter from the process of mitosis and eukaryotic cell reproduction. Has everyone forgotten that they have had a cold sometime in the past? As little as a year ago, people remembered that when you have a cold, you rest up, drink a lot of fluids and let the body take care of the rest. There is no medicine or shot for a cold. There is no immunity from the cold. Do you REMEMBER? Then why are you waiting for a vaccine?”

SocioPsychopatriotism
SocioPsychopatriotism
Apr 25, 2021 2:07 PM

“A person’s state of health, whether it is more alkaline than acidic, is what determines susceptibility to illness.”

That’s not true.

I get really annoyed at that based biased idiocy. The alkaline and acidity balance is important, polarizing is not. Polarization leads to electrical imbalance, and acidity and alkalinity balance varies wildly in your tissues, depending on many factors.

You need balance, minimized toxicity, sufficient essentials. That simple.

And I’ll point out, what people don’t learn, is loading up on “sunlight” before winter (melatonin, serotonin levels and regulation, obviously vitamin D). Which is why they keep getting sick, and they’ve had ALL THEIR LIVES to figure that out, but didn’t.

Howard
Howard
Apr 25, 2021 5:15 PM

One big problem associated with sunlight: climate engineering. Not so much because it seeks to filter sunlight as because the elements used tend to interfere with the ozone layer (which is not a constant anyway), thereby increasing exposure to UV-C.

Edith
Edith
Apr 25, 2021 9:20 PM

Where I live it will often rain all day for weeks leading up to actual winter….hard to load up with sunlight…this autumn we have a blob that is hovering …more annoying than any corona virus…endless days of drizzle…my guess is the flu and corona season will soon be in full swing…making up for little last year when we didn’t have the blob.,,but of course lock downs kept us safe then not plenty of sunlight.,,

S Cooper
S Cooper
Apr 25, 2021 2:47 PM

“No, it is called CORPORATE FASCISM. Like in this creep.”
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“The antidote for corporate fascism is HONEST SOCIALISM in the spirit of Eugene Victor Debs.”
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https://www.tumblr.com/search/v+debs/photo

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Apr 25, 2021 4:01 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Problem is that with honest socialism comes the dishonest socialists.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Apr 25, 2021 5:36 PM

Don’t blame honest socialism for frauds and charlatans. Unfortunately one will find frauds, charlatans and hucksters just about anywhere one goes on Earth. Some locations are rife with them. This place for instance.
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“Nothing a good super size anti Langley-Land atomic roach bomb can’t handle though. Time to call in Baby Debs World Pest Services.”
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suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 4:46 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

[Unfortunately one will find frauds, charlatans and hucksters just about anywhere one goes on Earth.]

And particularly so in political ideologies of power. “Honest socialism” sounds like sucker idea that the good people want to believe in (because they are good and desitre honesty), but the bad people will gain the power (because that is what socialism engenders).

Tagging “honest” in front of it is like putting lipstick on a pig. Some people will be fooled by the “honest” lipstick. But the pig remains.

No thanks!

WaffleStaffel
WaffleStaffel
Apr 25, 2021 5:41 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Eugene Debs, Secret Agent Man by Miles Mathis
We get most of the standard red flags on Debs, including coming from a family of old wealth. It is admitted his father came from a wealthy French family… The Socialist Party was led in those decades by five men: Morris Hillquit (who was really Morris Hillkowitz), Victor Berger, Daniel de Leon, Eduard Bernstein and Eugene Debs. The first four are admitted to be Jewish… I have never argued that Jews are behind all plots, but I have shown that they were definitely involved in this one, so there is really no use pretending otherwise… Debs’ start in unions is another red flag. We are told he joined the Brotherhood of Locomotive Firemen in 1875. However, he wasn’t a fireman then and they admit that… How could a grocery worker be a national delegate for a locomotive firemen’s union?… We are told Debs was involved in the Burlington Railroad Strike of 1888, which—take note—was a defeat for labor. We see that Debs’ involvement never did labor any good from the beginning. Was that just a coincidence? We have seen that it wasn’t a coincidence with Marx. Everything that Marx touched turned to dross, and we see the same thing with Debs.

I take your point. Unfortunately, all institutions/cooperatives/isms to ever display promise were co-opted long ago. It’s important to understand the full and true nature of what we promote.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Apr 25, 2021 7:58 PM
Reply to  WaffleStaffel

“Have seen this before. The fact is Debs last imprisonment was the death of him, prison conditions being so poor. It is extremely unlikely the E.V. Debs was an agent of the Robber Barons or the State, Mathis’ musings and fanciful speculations aside. They may make good material for a soap opera, but they are poor history.”

Circle Jerk
Circle Jerk
Apr 25, 2021 11:58 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

It always amazes me how people, knowing they are being lied to, pick and chose the details they wish to believe from the official version. There are many famous imprisonments, deaths and assassinations mentioned in that paper alone, and many persuasive arguments as to why they were all staged and fabricated.

When people throw around terms like “fanciful speculation” I am left to wonder why they resort to such rhetorical incitement. Is anyone capable of digesting a thing, then adding or subtracting with a fact or argument?

Starting with the handful of quotes I left. Care to address any single one?

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 4:51 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

[It is extremely unlikely the E.V. Debs was an agent of the Robber Barons or the State, Mathis’ musings and fanciful speculations aside.]

You are a “true believer,” it seems.

I do not want your so-called “honest” socialism. As a political slogan it seems as dubious to me as “Nobody is safe until everyone is safe.

Circle Jerk
Circle Jerk
Apr 25, 2021 8:12 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Eugene Debs, Secret Agent Man by Miles Mathis
We get most of the standard red flags on Debs, including coming from a family of old wealth. It is admitted his father came from a wealthy French family… Debs’ start in unions is another red flag. We are told he joined the Brotherhood of Locomotive Firemen in 1875. However, he wasn’t a fireman then and they admit that… How could a grocery worker be a national delegate for a locomotive firemen’s union?… We are told Debs was involved in the Burlington Railroad Strike of 1888, which—take note—was a defeat for labor. We see that Debs’ involvement never did labor any good from the beginning. Was that just a coincidence? We have seen that it wasn’t a coincidence with Marx. Everything that Marx touched turned to dross, and we see the same thing with Debs.

I hear what you’re saying. The problem is every movement/ism which ever showed promise was co-opted from the beginning. It’s important to understand the true nature and origin of the things we promote.

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 4:42 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Honest socialism?

Mr Debs sounds like a very scary utopian dreamer to me.

The rhetorical quote of his that you provide hyper-exaggerates a manufactured, decontextualised opposite without any nuance.

It sets off a multitude of red flag warnings in my critical thinking mind.

Mr Debs comes across as a one-eyed ideologue. Such people are to be treated with wary, careful scepticism (and their acolytes as well).

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 26, 2021 9:07 AM

The microbiome is more an a mere fact. It is essential for human growth and maintennce.

The mask is a good way to incease acidity, through CO2.

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 4:35 PM

[Just as we had to learn economics in order to debunk neoliberalism, which is a set of mathematic models that only work in theory, not in the real world…]

No model EVER worked exactly in the real world, since a model by definition can NEVER be the real world.

So, on logical grounds, your argument as presented does not prove anything. In other words, your purported “debunking” is not a debunking at all.

PS. Many, if not all, economists are well aware of the intrinsic shortcomings of models, be they economic, or social, or political, or even in the natural sciences (e.g. models of climate change). That does not make models useless (see the LHC at CERN, for instance). It only means we must be very, very careful about what we conclude from models. And most of the economics literature I read is quite clear about the limitations of models.

PPS. “Neoliberalism” is not just a “set of mathematical models.” Obviously “neoliberalism” is one of your favoured evil enemies of choice, but at least have the decency and integrity to accurately present your preferred bogeyman, and then destroy that accurate version (rather than some poor strawman).

PPPS. I used very involved “capacity planning” models to predict lifetime utilisation of large seismic processing computer systems many decades ago. And boy, did some of the models produce worthless output.

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Apr 25, 2021 1:55 PM

That story of the baby in the bunting falling over in the snow… and Murphy trying to help but being rebuffed… this is exactly the kind of thing that makes me so anxious. It is such a sign of foreboding. It’s societal rot, isn’t it, if a mother can feel resentful to a neighbor who fixes her child so the baby doesn’t fall into the snow…

Last night I finished ‘A Diary of A Man in Despair’ by Friedrich Reck. The diary begins in Germany in 1936, but Reck already understands what a horrible nightmare is before him. He can see the evil, the disgusting change in people – he comes to call it Satanic. He is called paranoid and an alarmist but he has no doubt in his heart that the people are running along with that awful Hitler who will lead them to a short-lived hoopla and unimaginable destruction. He can see the dehumanization. And meanwhile the German people are all “transacting” on stolen art, fine linen, candlesticks, having a ball. He is told he is irresponsible for not joining in – he has a family to care for, after all! But he despises every bit of it, because he sees it with clear, moral eyes. He pours scorn on technology, and the way it destroys all that is old and homogenizes everything. He hears stories of trains passing by that you did not see, you smelt them, because of the stench of urine and feces of the people squeezed in there. He feels the urge to document it all and hide it somewhere in the woods of his estate, because he knows this will one day end. Because he is clear eyed enough to see the big picture: faddish charismatic charlatans, then dehumanization of another, then destruction of all true morality, then terrible suffering, then fatigue, then demoralization, loses, and finally, an end. He didn’t live to see the end. At the very end of the war he was detained by the gestappo and he died in the concentration camp. By his own account, he lived a dark life from which he could never return to his innocent days. Because he never flinched. He looked, and saw, and was witness, even as it was nothing but madness and death all around.

So I lay in bed a bit after that, thinking about that man’s courage to know good from bad despite what everyone else believed, his terrible loneliness, his sacrifices even as he could see no way it would ever repay him with anything but misery, his flawed aspiration to bill himself as a nobility, his humanness – a type of person hardly around today. I fell asleep to images in my mind of the little baby fawn he tried to bring home and save after a dog attacked it, of the mummified corpse in a Munich passenger’s bag, of the Jews who outnumbered bullets, so they were killed by throwing explosive at them. So gruesome, so frightening. We ask how humans can fall so low but we know how: by losing their true sense of right and wrong.

Fitful night sleep

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 3:17 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

“by losing their true sense of right and wrong” You can be forgiven for losing something, if you didn’t intend to. I bring it around to choice. It’s a free universe. But there are always consequences to our choices, some immediate and some future. And those are consequences, as in the plural form. Obama pleased power and it pleased him. He won’t see a resurrection. He’s gleefully murdered and terrorized with abandon. He crossed the line. I’m not God and can’t say absolutely, but I look at things from his standpoint, which is what he wants and why he has communicated with us (which has its own set of problems, I acknowledge), and I can’t see how someone like Barack Obama can be resurrected. What a terrible example our political and other leaders set for the people!

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 5:04 PM
Reply to  Arby

[I can’t see how someone like Barack Obama can be resurrected.]

Probably not in your or my eyes.

But to the true believers? Their brain will selectively colour events and present a comforting reality to them in which Obama was not bad. Rather than acknowledge to themselves that the person they believed in, and who represented their hopes, wishes, and ideological dreams, was an utter disappointment (on objective, empirical evidence).

PS. Obama looked shifty to me right from the start. For what it is worth, I have worked with “public relations” people who coach CEOs, politicians, and the like on how to project themselves as “caring,” “compassionate,” “truthful” and other similar positive traits. Body stance, gestures, voice inflection and intonation, etc. So I watched him, and spotted typical signs of coaching by “public relations” professionals.

PPS. Needless to say, I watch all so-called “public figures” in the same way.

Ort
Ort
Apr 26, 2021 8:48 PM
Reply to  suddyan

I had the same initial reaction to Obama. A despairing progressive-liberal relative who climbed on the Bonnie Prince Barry bandwagon in 2008 complained, “But you don’t like anybody!”

To paraphrase your “true believers” comment: the True Believers won’t have to “resurrect” Obama because for them, Obama was never desurrected in the first place.

Edith
Edith
Apr 25, 2021 9:26 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

Yes well uranus in Taurus sign of values and self worth…same degrees as lead up to WW2 so why wouldn’t we see a repeat? I watch to see what happens when it hits the fixed star Algol which brought the height of death in WW2 …

martin
martin
Apr 26, 2021 3:41 AM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

Thank you Frieda.

This book can be found on archive.org

Jim mcDonagh
Jim mcDonagh
Apr 25, 2021 1:46 PM

Covid is a political position not a medical condition . The article is undercut by the authors claim that there are only 7 billion humans is also a political position ? Most population surveys show that there are now 8 billion humans befouling the planet .

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Apr 25, 2021 2:53 PM
Reply to  Jim mcDonagh

Well , to complete your weird obsession for matters not so relevant for the essence of the article I don´t think any surveys claim exactly 8 billion. “Near to” or “more than” should be the right correction if you don´t know the exact number.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Apr 25, 2021 5:16 PM

Overpopulation and the resource depletion and the pollution /disease it causes are the facts studiously avoided by articles such as this one . I find that very relevant to the political event known as covid . An error of 1 billion is no small thing .

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 5:12 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

[Overpopulation and the resource depletion and the pollution /disease it causes are the facts studiously avoided by articles such as this one.]

Overpopulation? Well, if you believe it, that means you! So maybe you should address that overpopulation (i.e. you), and kill yourself? That way you can… wait for it: save Gaia! You wonderful, wonderful thing!

Meanwhile, I do not buy the overpopulation story (natural ecological patterns of growth and decay will do as it has always done). So if you decide to kill yourself, maybe I will think about you every now and then.

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 3:05 PM
Reply to  Jim mcDonagh

I keep seeing the number go up. But it was 760 billion not long ago. Did we lose 60 billion recently and not notice?

THX-1160
THX-1160
Apr 25, 2021 3:34 PM
Reply to  Arby

760 billion

that must be including all those multitudes of undead Body Thetans that the Scientologists charge $100,000 to tell you about.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Apr 25, 2021 5:22 PM
Reply to  Arby

Global human population is now over 8 billion and still rising by more than 80 million per year , according to most of the data to be found inn academia . If one considers such estimate conspiratorial and the 9/11 inside job as factual , then as that other group of liars NASA has been known to say , “Houston we have a problem”

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 5:25 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Okay. 8 billion it is. I have no reason to disbelieve you.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Apr 25, 2021 6:05 PM
Reply to  Arby

“If Billy Eugenics has a thing about human overpopulation he can set an example and off himself. Who here will stop him? So what is he waiting for?”
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The Great Ripoff Shall Never Be!”

Peter
Peter
Apr 26, 2021 8:06 AM
Reply to  Jim mcDonagh

Population is one aspect of the problem. Per capita consumption is more important. The average American consumes 50 times as much as the average Ugandan. Thus the population of the US is about 17.5 billion equivalent Ugandans.

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 5:06 PM
Reply to  Jim mcDonagh

[Most population surveys show that there are now 8 billion humans befouling the planet .]

And you are one too, you befouler, you!

Greetings from a fellow “befouler.”

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
Apr 25, 2021 1:39 PM

The woman in this video has a t shirt that reads untill all are free no one is free. She is the singer Morgaine who was in the song “Wir Konnten” at the begging https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7OFOzXsIA4 sung by Kilez More at the protest in Germany, although she didn’t sing live I don’t think. In anycase the phrase is nicked from the uncovidians and inverted like pretty much everything they use.
The lyrics are about the change growing in the small. Song title everything stays the same.

Derek Williams
Derek Williams
Apr 25, 2021 1:16 PM

I’m glad you chose not to use “ ethics” or “morality” – “ goodness” ticks all the boxes in a clear and simple way.
Thank you for a great explanation of how kindness and decency have become things to be feared, according to these dysfunctional beings who run the show.
Stuff them, and all who believe in them.
Keep the fight.

Grafter
Grafter
Apr 25, 2021 12:55 PM

We are being CONNED. This has zero to do with a seasonal respiratory virus. We are facing those with criminal intentions who care nothing for our welfare.

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
Apr 25, 2021 2:48 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Is it advisable to face entities like that or better to put your back to them? better to depose or repose or compose than oppose? maybe close.

DavidC
DavidC
Apr 25, 2021 12:16 PM
Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Apr 25, 2021 1:33 PM
Reply to  DavidC

One of my favorite dystopian fictions. Mixes dehumanization, technocracy, and a haughty self-narrative of how “advanced” all that is.

Jim mcDonagh
Jim mcDonagh
Apr 25, 2021 1:49 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

That story was written at the end of the Victorian era and underscores how little human progress there has actually been since .The “Fabians” saw what was coming but their warnings and remedies were in the main ignored.

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Apr 25, 2021 1:57 PM
Reply to  Jim mcDonagh

I’ve never heard of the Fabians. Thank you!

THX-1160
THX-1160
Apr 25, 2021 2:17 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel
Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2021 3:15 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

Understanding the Fabian Window – Truthstream Media

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Apr 25, 2021 4:37 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Very interesting. So I gather the connection is that EM Forester was an early Fabian…

Anyway, the messages in the machine stops stand on their own and are extremely timely.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Apr 25, 2021 4:51 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

The Fabians have to be understood within the broader context of the group that grew out of Darwin and later Freud, influencing the group loosely called Modernists and that social powerhouse the Bloomsbury Group.

All kinds of nefarious stuff was developed along side the famous novels, giving rise to the Tavistock Institute and its hand across the ocean, in the form of MK Ultra and the Operation Paperclip emigres.

Wells, like Welles, like Huxley were describing and shaping their world. At least that was their intent. Forster was a more sensitive beast (in the line of DH Lawrence he knew the meaning of the word ‘love’, which I doubt the first three did) and he reaches a different audience.

H. G. Wells’s and E. M. Forster’s Transformative Arts

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Apr 25, 2021 5:09 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

You are a fountain of goodies! I must go to work now, but I hope I can see what other rabbits you can pull out of your hat after I’ve read this one.

Peter
Peter
Apr 25, 2021 11:44 PM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

The Fabians were monsters. They were founded by a couple named Webb early in the 20th century. That monster GB Shaw was one of them. Shaw in a filmed speech advocated the development of a gas that could “humanely” terminate the useless. His time has come. War criminals Toady Bliar and John Howard were also among the faithful.

THX-1160
THX-1160
Apr 25, 2021 2:14 PM
Reply to  Jim mcDonagh

The “Fabians” saw what was coming but their warnings and remedies were in the main ignored.

since they managed the impressive feat of simultaneously being supporters of both the stalinists and the nazis, it might be just as well that their proposed remedies were not implemented.

until now.

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Apr 25, 2021 3:04 PM
Reply to  Jim mcDonagh

The Fabian Society didn´t just know what was coming , they were a part of pushing it which is often the truth behind people that “make prophecies” that finally occurs. But don´t take my word for it , check it up if interested.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Apr 25, 2021 5:33 PM

Your analyse is politically motivated and lacks depth and perhaps knowledge of the scope of humanities problems. Which are in the main our propensity to feed , breed , and murder each other in large numbers. .

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 5:33 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

[Which are in the main our propensity to feed , breed , and murder each other in large numbers.]

Your analyse is politically motivated and lacks depth and perhaps knowledge of the scope of humanities problems. 

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Apr 25, 2021 8:44 PM

The Fabians founded in 1884 were a very diverse group, the earlier more progressive members were Graham Wallas, Syndey Olivier, Annie Besant, and William Clarke. The imperial right-wing were the Sidney and Beatrice Webb, and George Bernard Shaw. There was an irrevocable split in the group over the issue of the South African War – 1899-1902. The imperialists like Shaw and H.G. Wells were gung-ho for the war and were successful into dragging the FS to the right, whilst the rest of the group had departed. Shaw and Wells were both of course overt eugenicists. But one of the more decent Fabians was Leonard Woolf (husband of Virginia) who wrote a brilliant critique of British imperialism ”Empire and Commerce in Africa.’ first published in 1920

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Apr 26, 2021 9:53 AM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Thanks for your input , the Fabian Society is a matter I didn´t really study in detail so I suspected there could be a bug in the system 😉

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 5:30 PM
Reply to  Jim mcDonagh

[The “Fabians” saw what was coming but their warnings and remedies were in the main ignored.]

The “Fabians” wanted to push their disastrous ideas on us.

Thank goodness that hasn’t fully happened yet!

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 5:31 PM
Reply to  DavidC

I just read the story. It’s very applicable to today. It’s not the most polished bit of writing, but quite thoughtful and insightful. It’s amazing the way authors from those years could be so spot on. I refer to Randolph Bourne quite a bit. His writing wasn’t fiction. He wrote about his observations of how citizens behaved during war. He died in 1919. My first (of 139) blog post on the covid 19 pandemic hoax dealt with Bourne’s observations.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Apr 25, 2021 12:11 PM

Not much for slogans. But if one had to have one here is a much better one. WE THE PEOPLE (HUMANITY) are not safe until everyone of those WAR RACKETEER CORPORATE FASCIST OLIGARCH MOBSTER PSYCHOTIC-PSYCHO CRIMINALS are OFF THE PLANET. Catchy.”
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Time for them to go where no WAR RACKETEER CORPORATE FASCIST OLIGARCH MOBSTER PSYCHOTIC-PSYCHO CRIMINAL has gone before

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Apr 25, 2021 3:07 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

You made me a fan of slogans , all of a sudden.

THX-1160
THX-1160
Apr 25, 2021 3:39 PM

A chicken in every pot, and a bullet in every billionaire.

— popular movement slogan from the near future.

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Apr 25, 2021 4:06 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

Now I am even a bigger fan 😉

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Apr 25, 2021 5:29 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

Forster agreed with Chesterton that every man should have 3 acres and a cow !

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 26, 2021 9:25 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Russia practises this to some extent.

THX-1160
THX-1160
Apr 26, 2021 2:32 PM
Reply to  mgeo

what a rip-off; I thought the deal was going to be “forty acres and a mule”.

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 5:37 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

[Time for them to go where no WAR RACKETEER CORPORATE FASCIST OLIGARCH MOBSTER PSYCHOTIC-PSYCHO CRIMINAL has gone before]

To be replaced by similar, if not worse, bunch hiding under the so-callled “honest” socialism moniker, I presume.

Jacques
Jacques
Apr 25, 2021 12:03 PM

Bullshit along the lines of “No one is safe until everyone is safe” is obvious manipulation, and only the most woke imbecile will fall for it.

The fact is that nobody in the world is safe, anybody can at any time trip, fall, break their skull, and be dead. Or be run over by car. Or be victim to an endless number of things. Life will inevitable end in death, sooner or later. Obsession with safety, the impression that everyone is entitled to a swell life (of corporate slavery) along the script written by some motherfucker in the Office Where They Run Everything From is false.

On the personal level, my view is that a person should be tough toward oneself, take care of one’s life, primarily seek a helping hand at the end of one’s arm. Outwardly, in contrast, a person should be giving, willing to lend a helping hand if needed. And asked for too. While one might volunteer help, it’s not a good idea to force it on anybody. Because they might not fucking want it.

That being said, this crock of shit about no one being safe from COVID is clearly a way of misusing people’s good intentions to put them on a short leash. For keeping everyone safe from cough is impossible. Never-ending quest. Most people were too dazed or stupid or self-righteous to understand it at the beginning, and now this shit is ingrained too deep.

It would be nice if the pendulum didn’t swing too far back the other way once people realize the wool put over their eyes, and people didn’t stop giving shit about others completely.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Apr 25, 2021 1:18 PM
Reply to  Jacques

It’s an appeal to emotion based on the irrational premise that everyone can be safe. It’s para-logical, apparently making sense within a pseudo-reality in which some great power promises (eventually) to guarantee 💯 % safety to everyone from everything — so long as you surrender all your freedom (right now).
The classic totalitarian offer dressed up as utopian cult.

Pinched from:
Psychopathy and the Origins of Totalitarianism
Pseudo-realities are constructed by linguistically capable manipulators who wish to control other people, by James Lindsay.

Jacques
Jacques
Apr 25, 2021 3:44 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

Interestingly, I grew up under a totalitarian regime.

There was no pseudo-reality constructed by linguistically capable manipulators. Well, maybe there was a bit of it, there was some propaganda. But everybody knew it was a pile of shit. The totalitarianism was ushered in by a rather brutal force and then kept in place based on the premise that the force could be unleashed at any time if people got naughty. That was the social contract. Shut the fuck up and we’ll let you live. Lick our boots, suck our dicks and you’ll get perks.

What we’re witnessing now, and what’s been fermenting for a long time, let’s face it, is different. It’s relentless, decades-long, if not longer, mindfuck that makes people embrace slavery as a virtuous thing. This is much more dangerous than any totalitarian regime I can think of. Values are turned upside down, inside out, Evil marketed as Good.

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Apr 25, 2021 4:08 PM
Reply to  Jacques

May I ask where you grew up ?

Jacques
Jacques
Apr 25, 2021 5:43 PM

Czechoslovakia

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Apr 26, 2021 10:07 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Ok ,totally OT but I have to say that the Czech national anthem is among the most beatiful I´ve ever heard. So majestic.

suddyan
suddyan
Apr 26, 2021 5:42 PM
Reply to  Jacques

[It’s relentless, decades-long, if not longer, mindfuck that makes people embrace slavery as a virtuous thing.]

I simply had to lift that bit out. Well phrased!

NickM
NickM
Apr 25, 2021 3:55 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

“Those who exchange freedom for safety will receive neither freedom nor safety” — misquoted from Benjamin Franklin

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Apr 25, 2021 4:49 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

Excellent link.

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
Apr 25, 2021 2:05 PM
Reply to  Jacques

I was actually surprised by how gullible people were when called selfish. Most of the lockdown skeptics I read on comment forums seemed to believe the premise that they are selfish, and then defended themselves from there. It was ridiculous. It was clear as day that this was the kind of vocabulary abusers use. “You are so selfish, you bad, bad, person, shame on you!” It’s abuse. All I could think was: what’s wrong with the public that they can’t recognize when they are abused?

Abusers destroy terms of right and wrong for their end. But luckily, I think the effect they have is not that people then become very afraid to give of themselves. I think for most, the effect is to be more discerning of who they give to and at what cost to themselves and others… In other words, many people go through one horrible abusive situation and then from there can recognize the pattern and avoid getting pulled in.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 25, 2021 3:57 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Yes what an absurd idea that we can all be safe … the scariest thing is the psyops they subject us to … and as Sinead explains in her article how they’ve controlled us to void us of our goodness to each other in the guise of being good to each other. Nothing could make me feel less safe than this psyop.

Jacques
Jacques
Apr 25, 2021 6:25 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Frankly, as much as I hope that all people will find them the strength to do well, to live productive, satisfying lives, to stay healthy, and out of trouble, I – selfishly – care mostly about myself, about making sure that I can do that using my own devices. What other people do is their problem and you could say that I couldn’t care less.

Every man is the architect of his own fortune.

This psyop is sinister in more ways than one. Prima facie, it’s served for ushering in the dystopian phantasmagoria we’re witnessing, but, as I mentioned above, there is the potential that the pendulum will eventually swing back and people won’t give a shit about one another at all. Lose-lose for us, win-win for the motherfuckers.

les online
les online
Apr 26, 2021 2:16 AM
Reply to  Jacques

at our piss-ups we believe ‘no one left behind ! everyone gets drunk or no one drinks. period’

Phily Drew
Phily Drew
Apr 25, 2021 11:37 AM

The Guardian is a virus, but beware of their off shoots and variants, that are 99.9% the same with the same propaganda, the same coercion, the same resident NSA trolls, singing a slightly different tune. But their aims are the same.

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 1:46 PM
Reply to  Phily Drew

That reminds me of what I’m dealing with right now, namely a very unwanted forced upgrade of my windows 10 to their 2021 version. It’s off topic but I’m seriously desperate. I have less than an hour to somehow block it. I’ve searched online but no one seems to care. When I see a site that sells masks, I move on, so maybe there is a solution that I’ve missed.

THX-1160
THX-1160
Apr 25, 2021 2:29 PM
Reply to  Arby
NickM
NickM
Apr 25, 2021 4:12 PM
Reply to  Arby

Don’t waste time blocking Windoze, choose freedom. Mint Linux is flavour of the day (see reply by THX) but I can vouch that an Ubuntu Linux download will give you the choice of:

1. Sampling the flavour of Linux inside Windoze
2 Running Linux alongside (keeping Windoze for conformist apps).
3 Wiping Windows. More freedom, more control over your machine.

And it’s Free, as in Free Beer.

On a personal note, I ditched Microsoft when they accused me of criminal activity and threatened to close me down: “You have committed an illegal action and will be closed down”.

Linux is more polite when you make a mistake (there is more “Goodness” in the Linux Core?)

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Apr 25, 2021 5:45 PM
Reply to  NickM

All Internet activity is pay for play and closely monitored for real dissidents . The “Ford/Chev preference argument” is in fact encouraged .

NickM
NickM
Apr 25, 2021 7:57 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

You don’t get a Ford nor a Chevvy for free. Linux is free, as in costs no money. And it gives freedom, as in choice.

Jim mcDonagh
Jim mcDonagh
Apr 28, 2021 3:13 PM
Reply to  NickM

To run Linux or any other OS , electrical power and an access device computer /cell phone is necessary to enter the Internet . Pay to play is a requirement and has been so since day one of the so called “information age” which began circa 1980 .

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Apr 25, 2021 5:41 PM
Reply to  Arby

Switch to a Linux based browser and climb the steep learning curve or stop whining and eat the shit sandwich Mr Gates is offering along with his vaccines and GMO foods

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 5:54 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

What’s with the tone? I have an appointment to have my laptop’s platter drive swapped out and replaced with an ss, at which time I will completely remove windows. That was my plan when I first learned about Polygon. I live in Ontario, Canada. I can’t go to the shop to have that work done since our gangster premier put the province into deep lockdown. It doesn’t mean that, in the meantime, I want Microsoft to do something evil to my laptop. I just started holidays, so I’ll pull out my old Toshiba Satellite, which I loaded Linux Mint onto some months ago and play around with it. Before I learned about Polygon, but after loading Linux on my Toshiba, I realized quickly that I’ve still got to load the OS up with the same old same old third party programs. I didn’t see the use in switching. That was then. My Toshiba is old and slow, but I’m going to fire it up and load it up and get to know how to use it. I’ll put Ubuntu on the other machine I have as soon as the shop I’m going to can open.

Again, What’s with the tone? Are you just trying to piss me off. If so, Why?

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Apr 25, 2021 7:34 PM
Reply to  Arby

I find most of the comments here facile and self serving in general . The fact that you find my tone “annoying” should lead you to debug your self deception software. I’ve ‘fiddled” with computers since 1980 and have formed a belief that they are little more than a form of masturbation similar to what chimpanzees often do in zoos which the average moralizing human finds disgusting. The information Age has become little more than a group grunt . Transhumanism is rapidly replacing homo sapiens ?

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 8:43 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

As you wish.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Apr 26, 2021 2:03 AM
Reply to  Arby

THX-1160 is right. I was a developer over Windoze for decades. It has more back doors than a whore house. All MicroShaft objects do.

Edwige
Edwige
Apr 25, 2021 11:18 AM

Asking someone if they want your help first isn’t too difficult.

At least it wasn’t some post-modern hatchet job on the concept of ‘goodness’. That can be saved for ‘truth’ I suppose….

Sean Veeda
Sean Veeda
Apr 25, 2021 2:22 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Imagine you’re in your car in the process of crashing into a tree at high speed. Would you prefer at that moment that your airbag system asks you whether you want it to deploy?

Arby
Arby
Apr 25, 2021 5:58 PM
Reply to  Sean Veeda

Stick to the actual reported event. Was the mother standing right there? No one wants to address that fact. Why? If the mother was standing there, you’d speak to her. End of story.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Apr 25, 2021 7:37 PM
Reply to  Arby

You would. End of story.

THX-1160
THX-1160
Apr 25, 2021 2:31 PM
Reply to  Edwige

sure, they can always fish the baby out of the ocean, later.

Kenneth Thorberg
Kenneth Thorberg
Apr 25, 2021 3:19 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Maybe , but some of us are more human than zombies , and thus have an automatic trigger , so to say , to immediately react when a baby is falling or out of balance. It´s a natural reaction not to ask for anyones permission to react to that. That is , if your not a zombie , as I mentioned.

Wayne Vanderploeg
Wayne Vanderploeg
Apr 25, 2021 10:59 AM

I had a dream last night that the lock downs were over and people were celebrating everywhere. Never saw so many smiling faces. Can’t remember the last time I was able to recall a dream.

THX-1160
THX-1160
Apr 25, 2021 2:34 PM

Corarden
Corarden
Apr 25, 2021 3:22 PM

Sounds like an excellent dream

rasta|blaster
rasta|blaster
Apr 25, 2021 10:03 AM

thanks

Jan J
Jan J
Apr 25, 2021 10:02 AM

Exactly. This is a world-wide dehumanization excercise, not a proper response to a flu-like illness. If we truly wanted to save people, we would start by saving all the people starving in the world, Eliminating poverty and saving all the children that die every day of bacterial infections and diseases that are easily treatable and avoidable by clean water and proper nutrition.

These psychos were quite content to let 3.1 million children die of malnutrition and hunger every year. Never forget that when they cry their crocodile tears over “keeping everyone safe”.