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Who Would You Be?

Dielle Ciesco

Who would you be?

A lot of people wonder: if I’d been alive at the time of the 2nd World War, who would I have been?

Would I have been one of the self-interested sycophants, unquestioning in compliance, perhaps even cowardly so, against my better knowing? Or would I have been one of the feeble-minded, willing to turn a blind eye to ensure my own comforts?

Would I perhaps have been one of the power-hungry, ready to perpetrate humiliation, cruelty and violence against others? Or would I have been one of the brave and just resistance, risking everything for a justice that served others more than myself?

We all know who we like to think we would be, but would we really?

Now is a good time to ask yourself.

Would you be a person who risked career, income, credibility, friendships, respect, comforts, and social visibility if you could bring light to something terribly, terribly wrong?

Would you risk being treating fairly, slander, ridicule, and ostracization to speak out? Would you even risk prison or death?

And what about the people who have done so or currently are trying? Would you be one of their accusers, judging them and attacking? Would you simply dismiss them as irrational or as succumbing to some psychological flaw?

Or would you listen and offer support, or at least hold the questions they are bringing forth with curiosity?

Now is a good time to ask.

Dielle Ciesco is an American yoga and meditation teacher living in France, and author of The Unknown Mother: A Magical Walk with the Goddess of Sound. Visit her website or subscribe to her YouTube channel to learn more.

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Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 5, 2021 7:58 PM

The 528hz music helps to counter the dark forces vaxx vibrations. In this video Dr len Horowitz speaks about the 528 vibration of love. There is a link to his radio network that has a variety of types of music tuned to 528hz.

https://www.528records.com/radio/

mikael
mikael
May 4, 2021 3:08 PM

Ah…. the Natzees….

Yeah, again, this is one of the reasons I have downplayed my self in an world of American/British propaganda where anyone whom claims anything else is cencured, even to day, over 80 years after ww2, nothing is alowed to rock the boat.
I come from an family and an smal Tribe witch was desimated by the Bolsheviks, forced into exile and haved everything taken away, and since that been treated by the Norwegian/Finnish Gov as shit, because despite been an ancient people, treated like sub-humans, so I know what it is to be regarded as sub-human by the good Norwegians, even up to this day.

But hey, we cant debate that either, can we, why so many was on the other side than what some claim was the reasons for that war, witch again is never debated, why did we have ww2 and who started, why it started, and the reasons, whom conducted hate propaganda decades before, and so on, to book burning, witch again if you ask, what kind of books, you will not get any clear answer, to why did the Germans conduct what some claim was the Crystal night, witch again is done by an reason, but we will never debate that either.
What did Sovjet do prior to ww2, uh….. nothing, when I ask, what about Finland, I get silence.
Why did Sovjet bomb their own vilages in Karelien, to justify an attack where this bombings where the reason they used, sounds like something we are familiar with but dont aply that to older times.

Anti-semetism, was created by the Zionists to have an consensuss to use against anyone whom questions their policy, and I wrote about whom they are decades before they even admitted iit them selfs, so I am no novice in this game.
But this times when this issue is been guarded by the MSM, where they sets the premisses, any critics of ISISrael is hate speach, and on top of it, any facts are threatened with prison terms in many nations in Europa.
What debate.
Why I know, because I have the same expirience, stolen our homeland, our history stolen by the North Sami, a 100% fake people, and now forced to accsept this swindlers as our master race, while we and others have an spokes person, non of us, incl others have no representation what so ever as indiginous people, infact nothing.
And it was, despite the Norwegian Gov whomwanted to end the ban on Finnish language, the Sami wanted it to continue, so when I came to Norway as an child, my home lands language was forbidden, this is in the 70s, and the Norse Gov ended its racial hygeen program in the middle of the 80s.
Fascinating isnt it.
But somehow, we never debate that either.
but howls the never ending echoing of British/American propaganda witch sets the premisses for everything even to day, and I havent spoken about Sovjet, whom most people either dont know anything about other than the agreed upon narratives witch the Russians pimps to day, while they ignore the truth, as others do.
So people like me, victims of this pogroms are forced to be silent because of you contradict anything witch the majority pimps, you are an “nazi”.

I will link this one to you.
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12596
The complet list, and ask your self, why.

peace

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
May 4, 2021 2:21 PM

Today I felt ashamed of myself, for despite all my frustrations that the average normie has no clue or does not even care about what is happening to us, I have done very little.
Yes I have never worn a mask and I have woke a few others and tried in vain to wake many more. Anyone who knows me knows I stand against this tyrannical hoax.
But I could have done more. I could be ripping down signs and banners, I could be dropping leaflets everywhere.
Maybe this is what we should be doing more of, taking action in all the small ways we can, rather than waiting for the brain dead masses to come to their senses.
If leaflets were being dropped all over the place, in towns all across the world, this would certainly help our cause. We have to do what we can cos we’re running out of time.
I am starting with those big signs at the train station, they piss me off routinely.

SocioPsychopatriotism
SocioPsychopatriotism
May 4, 2021 1:52 PM

The guy who you don’t know and never hear from.

Freeborn John
Freeborn John
May 3, 2021 8:51 PM

Personally I reckon my nerve could have stood storming a beach with a bunch of guys I had trained with and didn’t want to let down.
I’d have pissed myself with fear carrying false papers at a road block and doubt I would have hidden fugitives and risked the Gestapo and concentration camps or worse for me and my family.
How many people do you see without a mask in Tescos ?

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 3, 2021 10:48 PM
Reply to  Freeborn John

haven’t been there for years. they almost hung me up on a hook in the back once. I asked for my money back.

Timothy Drayton
Timothy Drayton
May 4, 2021 9:35 AM
Reply to  Freeborn John

Fortunate is the oppressor who rules through ideology and does not need to resort to brute force. Those people are wearing masks because they believe the narrative that tells them they should, not because they feel forced into doing so.

Annie
Annie
May 3, 2021 6:51 PM

Devil makes work for idle hands.All these billionaires have nothing to do but cause havoc because they have nothing else to do but power grab remember they are just people not gods

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 4, 2021 1:18 AM
Reply to  Annie

it’s not the people I fret about. Per the piece by Ed Curtin the other day, its’ the spirits of which they are simply the ploys played, or tools abused.

jude
jude
May 3, 2021 2:52 PM

Not supporting or denying any particular documentation of WWII history since we do know many died. Still, witnessing the last decade or two of media and political leaders blatantly lying to our face, smearing their opponents, jailing the whistleblowers, getting away with literal murder, canceling respected doctors who oppose the narrative, conducting an obvious fraudulent US election, and on, and on, and on… one can only imagine what the press and it’s elite owners were able to achieve in presenting ‘facts’ to the public prior to the internet.

wardropper
wardropper
May 3, 2021 6:28 PM
Reply to  jude

Indeed.
In fact it really amazes me that the internet can still supply us with truthful information – if we know where to look.
The way things have been going during recent years, I would have fully expected by now that all access to uncensored facts would be an impossibility, and that OffGuardian would have disappeared as soon as it arrived on the scene, but here we are, with our questioning minds…

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 4, 2021 12:04 AM
Reply to  wardropper

“… here we are, with our questioning minds…”

Only because we are few and the others don’t hear us asking questions …

richard
richard
May 4, 2021 2:10 PM
Reply to  wardropper

https://www.garydbarnett.com/what-is-coming/

globalist cyber attack to end internet as we know it?

jamal
jamal
May 4, 2021 3:36 PM
Reply to  richard

is there detailed info about these cyber wargames? we have pretty detailed info about the pandemic games. they cannot control a decentralized internet, so i guess they`re planning to centralize control again. but how will they prevent decentralization?

George Mc
George Mc
May 3, 2021 1:25 PM

I was curious about the conflation of “anti-Semitism” with “conspiracy theory” and that lead me to the question of David Icke who is relentlessly portrayed as being “anti-Semitic”.

This leads to articles such as Ron Charles’s Washington Post piece, “A hateful, conspiracy-filled book just got harder to buy. That’s no cause for celebration”. I can’t access this piece – which is probably just as well! – but the title pretty much sums it up with that condescending use of “hateful” (the “adult” version of “naughty”). And I daresay the “no cause for celebration” will undoubtedly be telling us to keep watching the skies etc.

The infinitely pedantic self-policing at work here is summed up by a foaming reaction to Icke fan Alice Walker on Forward:

https://forward.com/opinion/416284/alice-walkers-conspiracy-theories-arent-just-anti-semitic-theyre-anti/

“In the New York Times interview, Walker glowingly described Icke’s book as “a curious person’s dream come true” with no comment or critique from the interviewer. Her other recommendations include books by Maya Angelou, Daniel Black and other well-respected and methodologically meticulous authors of color.”

Clearly Walker was not meant to be permitted to give her point of view without a harsh reprimand to try and corral her back into the pen of the “well-respected and methodologically meticulous”.

You can call Icke a fruit bat if you want. You can say that some of the comments he has made have been “unwise” (as in ripe for exploitation by the smearers) but he is not anti-Semitic as has been noted by David G. Robertson and Jon Ronson. His entry on Wiki acknowledge these Icke “defenders” but that is a drop in the ocean compared to the coverage they give to the other side. The term “anti-Semitic” appears no less than 20 times in the article.

What bothers the holy guardians of media expression here is the fact that Icke points the finger at figures in power and dares to suggest that they are working in consort to shaft the public. Such an idea must not be permitted to catch on. Well meaning “incompetence” must rule the day! Ergo ….

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 3, 2021 5:34 PM
Reply to  George Mc

If the worst “Anti-Semites” are the Israeli citizens themselves, and most of them were never born in the Levant. That makes them, “Non-Semites”.
The true Semites are the Palestinians.

wardropper
wardropper
May 3, 2021 6:43 PM
Reply to  Ernest Judd

Technically true, just as the rest of the Arabs are also, technically, Semites.
But no one today is old enough to remember that far back in history.

In terms of education and our knowledge of history, all we really have to go on is what is handed down through generations – and I’m not knocking that process – but, since we cannot reasonably dictate modern policy retroactively, it should be obvious that many political issues have passed their expiration date.

For example, I don’t care at all what my great-grandfather was doing during the Boer War. It’s VERY over, and nobody is listening to the stories of the remote descendants of those involved in it.

The problems we have today are horrific enough, and we really need to focus on them.
Of course we learn from history, but only history professors can benefit from the notion of not moving on.

NickM
NickM
May 4, 2021 9:01 AM
Reply to  wardropper

“Boer War. It’s VERY over,”

WarDropper, it’s not often that I disagree with you but it seems to me, as a native born South African, that the British Empire’s rape of the Free Afrikaaner Republics is not over — in fact, it is just getting into its stride. The same Anglo Zio Capitalist system that set up concentration camps in the Transvaal and Orange Free State republics, took over and transferred their wealth to the City of London is now doing the same thing on a global scale. What is more, the AZC is no longer content to “take up the White Man’s burden” abroad; for the past half century the AZC has increasingly turned its attention to fleecing The White Man (citizens of the EU$A itself) — transferring our wealth “offshore” to the City of London.

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 3, 2021 12:33 PM

I for one have thrown the belief in hostility to the occupying forces 1940-45 away and now believe that most Norwegians danced to whatever the Germans put on …

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 3, 2021 11:53 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

After 1945 Norwegians have danced to whatever the (US)Americans put on …

Frances
Frances
May 4, 2021 2:17 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

Norway and the rest of the US ‘allies’; we vote for our governments who take orders from elsewhere.

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 3, 2021 12:29 PM

Catholic or Protestant? so many tortured and killed in the name of one or the other, but did it really matter in the end? Neither was right, both were an illusion.

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
May 3, 2021 12:22 PM

The question that is usually asked most of the German people and their nazi leaders was how could so many people be fooled to follow such a regime which ultimately led them to destruction.

Then we had Covid, which is no more virulent than Flu, being pushed by rogue gov’ts as a new deadly disease that one has a 94% chance of beating at worst. These NWO patsy’s currently running our gov’ts should stop looking for enemies as they have enough already.

The summer of discontent awaits.

siamdave
siamdave
May 3, 2021 2:23 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

me, I think substituting the word ‘American’ (or ‘Canadian’ or ‘British’ or ‘Australian’, etc) for ‘German’ (and ‘capitalist’ for ‘nazi’) would have a good deal more immediacy, not to mention truth.

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 3, 2021 2:41 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

influenza deaths in 2019 were 1,213 so covid is claimed to have killed 100 times as many whilst you make out the flu killed 100 times more than was actually claimed. this serves to cover up the scale of the atrocity and provide a cover story for the deaths. there is no such thing as covid and the flu does not provide any plausible explanation for 100 times more deaths. no virus has been isolated and the medical treatments have not been shown safe.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfrominfluenzain2019and2020

Kalen
Kalen
May 3, 2021 8:27 PM
Reply to  Peter Sky

If one uses that same COVID methodology to count flu-like (ILI) deaths namely death 28 days after flu diagnosis or being exposed to someone with flu at least one and half million people would have been classified as died every mild season due to flu in US ( official published numbers abuse to be 35-70 thousands, now it is miraculous zero.

Kalen
Kalen
May 3, 2021 11:38 AM

Dispatches from Orwellian world of celebrities of fascism. Today: curious case of VAX LIVE in Southern California.

A concert of sold out celebrities “has beens” including grandma Lopez begging to resuscitate her long dead career organized big Pharma funded fascist rally in support of state apartheid. In a Newspeak tradition they organized propaganda rally featuring some third grade music from third grade wannabe artists to supposedly encourage people to get jabbed with illegal drug except all those who were prime target of convincing namely those who did not get jabbed yet were not allowed to get it.

It is straight from Nazi propaganda playbook, a rally of brainwashed staunch Nazis to encourage Jews who were not invited to the rally, to cooperate with their Holocaust.

From ABC

INGLEWOOD, Calif. (CNS) — Providing a glimpse of what life was like pre-pandemic, thousands of people flooded into SoFi Stadium in Inglewood Sunday for a charity concert aimed at boosting confidence in COVID-19 vaccines and raising funds for vaccination efforts worldwide.

But “VAX LIVE: The Concert to Reunite the World”, sponsored by relief organization Global Citizen, won’t mark a complete return to normalcy. Attendance was being restricted to people who are “fully vaccinated,” in other words, they must have received their final dose of COVID-19 vaccine no later than April 18. And mask-wearing was required inside the stadium, with the exception of the performers while they were on stage.

“ignorance is strength” was apparent motto of this sorry event.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 2:09 PM
Reply to  Kalen

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY

— chanted the excited crowd, as they eagerly boarded the trains going east.

siamdave
siamdave
May 3, 2021 2:26 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY – chanted the excited crowd, as they eagerly boarded the trains going east’ – ‘ah’, breathed Winston, putting down his pen, ‘that’s what we want the children to believe, and mindlessly parrot as they grow older, and pass on the desired message to their children!’

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 7:44 PM
Reply to  siamdave

I assume that this is a disguised reference to the vexed question of what exactly happened to the passengers, when the east-bound trains arrived at their destination.

if so, you should be aware, if for some reason you are not already, that there is exactly zero controversy about the fact of large numbers of people being forcibly loaded onto east-bound trains. and unlike in the current situation, those people were not at all willing participants in the ruling-class program which was being inflicted upon them.

it’s also worth pointing out that the all-time world leader in loading people onto east-bound trains, is the personage shown below, and not the guy that you were probably thinking of.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/29/stalin-russia-soviet-union-gulag-norilsk

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sabelmouse
sabelmouse
May 3, 2021 11:09 AM

having grown up after ww2 in germany i always hoped …
never saw myself fit for resistance work but …..

Corarden
Corarden
May 3, 2021 10:17 AM

This lady is great.

http://overdeewall.com/2021/05/01/the-road-is-long/#comment-284

Bit of Irish rain in the clip…lol…

Edwige
Edwige
May 3, 2021 9:54 AM

Want some live music? Be like China!

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/china/wuhan-covid-festival-concert-china-b1840971.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1620021974

The estimated crowd size is a Freemasonic master number and the photo shows some bloke making the Devil’s Horns’ sign. Just a coincidence, probably.

Corarden
Corarden
May 3, 2021 10:32 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Talking of live music, looks like Harry has made himself into the ultimate galactic scale useful idiot

https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/media/vaxlive

Looking at the amazing lineup, it must have been an incredible night….not. They should have brought in Bill Gates to have his jab live and do his version of Riverdance for us. I might have tuned in then.

What a bunch of complete, and utter lost tossers.

It does however indicate, despite having all the money in the world to throw around. that they are having to scrape the very bottom of the barrel for such an event.

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 3, 2021 11:17 AM
Reply to  Corarden

“What a bunch of complete, and utter lost tossers.”

Yep.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 2:20 PM
Reply to  Corarden

I’m astonished that U2 weren’t available to provide their neoliberal propaganda services for such an event, in return for a generous fee, of course. maybe it was the size of the fee that was the sticking point.

Claret
Claret
May 4, 2021 6:56 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

Maybe they’ve all got the new-flu and are having an horrendous isolation in their mansions.
Where’s Sting? Did he get vaccinated? :o)

wardropper
wardropper
May 3, 2021 6:53 PM
Reply to  Corarden

I’m very happy to learn that they basically live at the bottom of a barrel.
That’s where they belong, so let’s make sure they stay there.

Researcher
Researcher
May 3, 2021 6:05 PM
Reply to  Edwige

So now you have to register to read fake stories on the Independent and other BS peddlers. The security state is so desperate for data and subscriptions. They want to charge us for fake news. It’s kind of hilarious. To pay X dollars per month to be lied to by the security state so they can intimidate and propagandize us into making decisions that will end in our imminent demise.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 7:56 PM
Reply to  Researcher

presumably, people are much more likely to believe in ridiculous government lies, when they’ve voluntarily paid for the privilege of receiving them.

Kate
Kate
May 3, 2021 9:39 AM

In Ireland last week the police were filmed raiding a church. Now the chap who filmed them has been raided in the middle of the night, detained (then released) under the mental health act, and had his children taken into care.

https://twitter.com/dubslife1/status/1388957881194717186

Kate
Kate
May 3, 2021 9:39 AM
Reply to  Kate

More info here
http://overdeewall.com/

Kate
Kate
May 3, 2021 11:00 AM
Reply to  Kate

Corarden
Corarden
May 3, 2021 10:34 AM
Reply to  Kate

Making my blood boil, these bastards are the fucking pits of the earth.

Kate
Kate
May 3, 2021 10:57 AM
Reply to  Corarden

Mine too.

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
May 3, 2021 12:07 PM
Reply to  Corarden

Our day will come.

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
May 3, 2021 10:53 AM
Reply to  Kate

Monstrous.

swami
swami
May 3, 2021 11:25 AM
Reply to  Kate

OMG Church pastor u.k Church pastor Canada twice Church pastor usa and irleand last week at the same time…………..
where do they come up with theses original scripts ??
psyop division …………………..

wakey wakey

George Mc
George Mc
May 3, 2021 9:25 AM

A bit of humour from those Bellingcat buddies. They have traced the elusive “Q” behind QAnon. They have discovered “that Q’s origins can be traced not to the hallways of the Pentagon but to a message board known for its puerile humour and offensive politics”. Sounds like the Pentagon to me!

After which, I read about “canonical” Q drops. And I have to confess I haven’t been reading up on the Q thing anyway, assuming it was another pile of artificial shit to divert – a bit like Boris’s dastardly refurbishment. But “canonical” suggests The Bible so it’s no surprise we get a Biblically proportioned drone analysing all the minutia of the evasive Q. I sense another next Netflix narcotic in the making.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 2:32 PM
Reply to  George Mc

George Mc
George Mc
May 3, 2021 9:13 AM

From The Conversation:

“Why some people don’t experience vaccine side-effects, and why it’s not a problem”

Naturally we expect nothing about the vaccine to ever “be a problem”.

And there follows a pile of “scientific” gobbledygookery of the sort I simply cannot concentrate on for a deep intuition that it is all flummoxery.

(Cue the response: “Oh you cannot be bothered reading about it – well then, you have nothing to say!” just as the schuckster lawyer points out that you didn’t read paragraph B subsection 4 etc.)

I did pick up on this:

Vaccine side-effects shouldn’t be taken as a measure of the effectiveness of the vaccine. Despite the varied immune response to vaccines, most people achieve immunity against the coronavirus on vaccination, regardless of the presence, absence and severity of side-effects.”

Did you get that? They are addressing the concern that side effects may mean an adverse effect on the effectiveness of the vaccine in dealing with deadly covid! In short, they assume that all anyone can possibly care about is protection from deadly covid!

Orthus
Orthus
May 3, 2021 10:44 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Vaccine “side-effects”, sore arm, whatever, are not a measure of the effectiveness of the vaccine. However, one side-effect may have consequences. The “vaccine” appears to knock out part of the immune system for a period of time. More cases recorded two weeks after the vaccine and explained by the authorities as the old folk going out partying after their jobs.

It is the innate immune system that is affected and this would explain why mentions of the innate immune system in The Guardian were verboten from the start of the panic. It would also suggest that the Graun (and the rest of the MSM) had bee briefed about what to expect.

mgeo
mgeo
May 3, 2021 4:18 PM
Reply to  Orthus

This is not just a problem of losing some of the immune system. Every type of creation/destruction and operation in us depends on genes. Contrary to claims, the knowledge of genetics is superficial. The jab mucking up the genes has already produced a vast range of damage. This is insanity on a scale far worse than for GMOs.

Corarden
Corarden
May 3, 2021 10:46 AM
Reply to  George Mc

It’s the gift that keeps on giving, until your third or fourth Mode RNA (Moderna) upgrade, and then you kark it.

George Mc
George Mc
May 3, 2021 10:48 AM
Reply to  Corarden

then you kark it

Or spout tentacles!

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 8:10 PM
Reply to  George Mc

it doesn’t have to be one or the other, it could just as well be both, in either order.

George Mc
George Mc
May 4, 2021 9:04 AM
Reply to  THX-1160

Those Thing movies have been in my mind a lot recently. As has Cronenberg’s Fly.

Hello World
Hello World
May 3, 2021 8:32 AM

Hello dear Sirs and Ladies,
I have attended most of the London protests, no matter how tiny including the Clapham one, where there were more uniformed drones than us…
My question to you is, especially those chess players who know that if you want to win the game, you need to see few steps ahead otherwise you lost the game. Those who perpetrated the scam have planned it for decades and all we are doing is just attending the protests, some, very few, like myself never put a mask on while on the public transport, don’t buy from amazon etc.. Yet, with the mass quacking media black out, censorship, what else can we do? Aren’t we too late? Please discuss…

Shin
Shin
May 3, 2021 8:54 AM
Reply to  Hello World

Well the MSM owns societies soul. It owns their thoughts, actions and decisions. More importantly, it owns the outcome.
Tough odds to beat.

Jacques
Jacques
May 3, 2021 9:09 AM
Reply to  Shin

That’s defeatist bullshit. People might now be in a dazed and confused state, but they’ll see through it and rise up.

Paradoxically, one of the unintended consequences of this massive hoax and propaganda is, and will be, that people are realizing the mammoth extent of corruption of just about all of the institutions, ranging from politics to the press to the sickness industry.

This bullshit is making people think. Finally. It will take time to come out of it, but life won’t be stomped into the (technocratic) ground, as intended. At least not completely.

The MSM are on the way of the horses …

Shin
Shin
May 3, 2021 9:15 AM
Reply to  Jacques

So suddenly it’s all going to fall into place. The MSM are going to miraculously tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the the truth. What imaginary bullshit world are you living in?

Jacques
Jacques
May 3, 2021 9:39 AM
Reply to  Shin

Who gives a flying fuck about what the MSM are saying?

I don’t. If you do, I suggest that you realize that they’re full of putrid shit and stop having yourself thereby indoctrinated.

The world I live in is in a forest, very peaceful, just about completely free of bullshit. Not imaginary, as real as it can get.

Shin
Shin
May 3, 2021 9:59 AM
Reply to  Jacques

A forest? Well good for you. Have you given the forest a name?
Maybe the imaginary forest?

Jacques
Jacques
May 3, 2021 10:23 AM
Reply to  Shin

Prestan me srat a tahni do prdele kretene.

Corarden
Corarden
May 3, 2021 10:51 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Dunno what it means but I upvoted it anyway

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
May 3, 2021 11:28 AM
Reply to  Corarden

Me too

Shin
Shin
May 3, 2021 11:40 AM
Reply to  Corarden

Unreal isn’t it. Upvote abuse, what a laugh.
btw, this dickhead thinks msm play no role in the stupidity that is mankind.
Your on a winner with Jacques. He may even let you stay at his forest retreat.

Jacques
Jacques
May 3, 2021 11:51 AM
Reply to  Shin

Shine, ty tupy blbce, dostal instrukci abys tahnul do prdele.

Mas bejt v prdeli.

Take a wild guess as to which part of this applies to you.

Shin
Shin
May 3, 2021 12:05 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Ah, it was fun while it lasted.

Howard
Howard
May 3, 2021 3:03 PM
Reply to  Shin

Reading this exchange makes it so much easier to see the impossible chasm separating the COVID true believers from the skeptics.

All of those who comment here (except for the many iterations of “Bob”) agree the entire COVID thing is a hoax.

Then we proceed to pummel one another for the perceived impurity of our skepticism.

I certainly agree more with you than with Jacques regarding humanity’s eventual retreat from illusion back into reality. I frankly believe it’s too late; whatever made them accept the COVID nonsense as gospel was not – repeat: WAS NOT – a one time only thing that will never happen again.

People might wake up from the COVID hoax eventually; but whatever drove them to accept it is still alive and kicking.

I must defer to the old adage: You can’t cheat an honest man.

Jacques
Jacques
May 3, 2021 5:04 PM
Reply to  Howard

But we’re essentially on the same page.

If anything is to happen, it will happen “eventually”. I think that we’re entering an Age of Darkness, that might be quite protracted.

But since you’re talking about the audience on this forum, there is too much pessimism if not nihilism. I don’t want to succumb to that.

wardropper
wardropper
May 3, 2021 6:55 PM
Reply to  Corarden

While you’re in such a good mood, just make sure you don’t upvote covid and vaxx by mistake…

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 3, 2021 12:03 PM
Reply to  Jacques

The MSM is a alien concept. Bill Mollison said these newspapers were good for sheet mulching to grow potatoes.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 3, 2021 5:48 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Below is A link to an interview with physicist Denis Rancourt.(w/ Ryan Cristian of LAV). He did surveys on the scientific literature on mask efficacy early on, like late March 2020, showing that random clinical trials consistently showed that they don’t work. That’s where I first heard of him. He’s also a member of a Canadian (Toronto I think) civil liberties organization, so he brings a political understanding unusual for a scientist.

The whole interview is very good, but what stood out to me was his sophisticated geopolitical understanding of Covid, or how Covid policies fit into the politics of empire. I have of rarely encountered the two subjects brought together. The thing I found unique to his analysis was that the ruling classes pushing the Covid/Great Reset narrative have overreached had are creating an infrastructure of control that while powerful, is inherently unstable. He discussed this from about minute 13 to minute 30 of the interview.

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/denis-rancourt-interview-experts-banned-from-research-publication-for-challenging-covid-narrative/

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 4, 2021 1:23 AM
Reply to  Jacques

The important thing, at this impasse, is not who owns the upper hand but who has the nobler cause. We pursue that well and we’ll come out all good.

Jacques
Jacques
May 3, 2021 8:56 AM
Reply to  Hello World

You’re absolutely right that the perpetrators have planned not only the scam, but also, more importantly, their vision of the future – a neofeudalist digitial genetically-engineered dystopia – for decades and decades, if not longer. These motherfuckers are apt technocrats whose raison d’etre is to fuck over others to have more for themselves.

Because they swept from the table a larger portion of crumbs than usual for the plebs to munch on, people have succumbed to the naive idea that the notion of social justice has taken more or less strong foothold throughout the world and that it would only be improved and fine-tuned from now on. That’s bullshit. The Devil, in the form of the aforementioned fuckheads, never rests. Anyway, people have been rocked to oblivion, dumbed down, infantilized, pitted against one another through endless divide-and-conquer stratagems, totally fucked up.

Not only we have not formulated a vision for the future, we’ve been rendered unable to do so, or a huge attempt has been made to that effect.

That’s the sad reality.

But there is never too late as long as you have a breath of life in you! It’s now up to people to see through all crap foisted on them, shake it off, get pissed off, and get going. Discover all the things that are wrong, why, kick the aforementioned motherfuckers’ asses, and follow a path to a better future. It’s very likely that when that eventually happens some new motherfuckers will crawl out of the woodwork and pull some other shit because people will most likely lose vigilance. But that’s how it goes.

Right now, we’re at a stage where most people haven’t yet realized that they’re being fucked over. Most of those who are aware of what’s going on and can foresee where the shitheads are trying to steer the world are in a state of consternation, incredulously reiterating that it’s happening. For now, ideas about an alternative future are few and far between …

Sofia
Sofia
May 3, 2021 9:09 AM
Reply to  Jacques

An alternative Vision can and will be created by those who are fighting back now it can’t just be magicked up – that movement will develop that Vision of humanity and how we should live together. I’m subscribed to numerous telegram channels and you can see that movement and vision developing. There are groups that want to set up alternative schools and curriculums to educate our children – this is crucial. There are groups setting up communes and house shares for the awake to help and support each other. Etc etc it’s happening people just need to get involved as well as set up their own thing.

Jacques
Jacques
May 3, 2021 9:20 AM
Reply to  Sofia

That’s pretty much what I’m saying/hoping. All sorts of initiatives are popping up all over the place.

I see masses of people jogging/exercising, clearly choosing a natural path toward health as opposed to chemical injections/genetics. More and more people seem to be opting for not having kids educated … err … indoctrinated in the official education system. People are getting the fuck out of the city, where the technocratic shitheads roam and where there is no place to hide, no place to take a breath of fresh air, no place to get away from the omnipresent surveillance cameras.

So on, so forth.

I’m optimistic about the future.

Sofia
Sofia
May 3, 2021 9:40 AM
Reply to  Jacques

We are in agreement 😀

Sofia
Sofia
May 3, 2021 9:23 AM
Reply to  Sofia

What I mean to say though is that a vision is not developed by individuals in armchairs but by the process of real struggle with others and I can see that happening we are at the very beginning it won’t happen overnight

Jacques
Jacques
May 3, 2021 9:41 AM
Reply to  Sofia

There you go. Stuff will happen from the grass roots. It’s happening already.

Eventually, people will exit the rat-race world and the neo-feudalist idea will die by attrition.

magumba
magumba
May 3, 2021 10:13 AM
Reply to  Hello World

Why make yourself a target ?…..your outward signalling that you are a brave resistance fighter makes you instantly a target…the time has long passed for outward shows of heroics…its time to get clever…wear the mask when required,lie through your back teeth about having the jab….you cant fight ”them” from the outside you will be swamped by the numbers and woe betide you have the temerity to suggest ”they” are brainwashed fraggles who dont understand the ‘bigger picture’ all you’ll get is anger

Wear their mask of conformity……fight them from the inside….they wont see it coming

The biggest strength of ww2 resistance fighters was their ability to move amongst the general population looking just like everyone else

Jacques
Jacques
May 3, 2021 10:24 AM
Reply to  magumba

High five … !

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 3, 2021 11:51 AM
Reply to  magumba

You’re right but so far I haven’t been able to put on a mask …

Hello World
Hello World
May 3, 2021 12:40 PM
Reply to  magumba

Born of Polish parents…
And the Poles.. freaking romantics, first to fight and first to die.
Yes, you are absolutely right but my integrity does not allow me to be an accomplice of a lie, even though the financial system already is..

So, as Sofia mentioned, we can potentially create an alternative system, yet they control the food supply, oil, energy production, most of the land, and the technology to track and enslave us is there to be deployed; so who will ditch their smartphones, comfortable life in order to make a stand… ? Is anyone in the Western world brave enough to achieve what the people of Cheran, Mexico, or other communities around the world have done?

And now, the society is being hoodwinked into crypto… Of course a lot are making huge profits, but isn’t it just another Trojan horse to get humanity closer to what Chatham House with the execution of CFR, WEF, their NGO industrial complex and think tanks have envisioned for us (24/7 surveillance, artificial Monsanto food, tank born children, soma/drugs, no morality) as outlined in Huxley’s ‘Brave New World’?
So, is the symbol of a ‘T’ standing for Ford T or the wet dream of the technocrats being materialised in the Tesla vehicles that production devastates the planet?
Are people able to see through the smokescreen and the poison of the geo pseudo engineers who spray us daily and more often nightly with their toxic compounds all around the world?

What’s the way out but to fight and if need be, to die?

Thank you all for precious comments.

Jacques
Jacques
May 3, 2021 12:57 PM
Reply to  Hello World

Buddy, you starting to come across as a shill who wants to engage people in an inane pseudo-debate about nothing. Still, I’m gonna give you the benefit of the doubt … even though it wouldn’t surprise me if the idiot Shin and you were the same entity.

Everything there is to say was said above.

In line with what magumba said above, it wouldn’t exactly wise to share what people intend to do.

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 3, 2021 1:27 PM
Reply to  magumba

There is no war. The covidians are insane. Keep away from them and create healthy places without them.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 3, 2021 6:13 PM
Reply to  Peter Sky

The Branch Covidians have become their own Concentration Camp, only this time the exaggerated numbers will be in the reverse of WW2: all deaths due to CoVid1984; no deaths attributed to self-annihilation.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 3, 2021 5:56 PM
Reply to  magumba

I have been banned from our local co-op grocer for allowing my mask NOT cover my nose, and for the “disrespecting” messages written upon the mask:

“Crisis Actor”;
“Obedient”;
“Vax Control Group”;
“We Love You, Big Brother”;
“We love You, Big Bonnie!” (Bonnie Henry)

Ironically, the co-op is a Members Co-op, and not a Workers Co-op.
My wife and I have been members for 34 years, but according to our “Democratically Elected Board” WORKERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO OUT MEMBERS IF THEY FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE! ie. employee’s have the right to NOT BE PERSONALLY OFFENDED, even if the “offender” doesn’t know.

So, PC, identity politics and woke-ism is the business model, and when ‘Whole Foods’ or ‘Trader Joe’s’ end up purchasing a natural food store that based it’s customer relations on FEAR and BIGOTRY, I will have a long last laugh. The good thing is these bigots live in my community, and they will get reminders every time I see them.

wardropper
wardropper
May 3, 2021 6:58 PM
Reply to  magumba

Is your idea that if we all follow your advice, covaxx will, eventually, come to an end…?
Hmm… that could be worth a try, but I’m not betting anything on it.

Dors
Dors
May 3, 2021 11:41 AM
Reply to  Hello World

“what else can we do? Aren’t we too late?”

Reiner Fuellmich at jermwarfarecom last month, ~28th min: “. I don’t think that all these adverse reactions to the vaccines are part of the plan. And that’s because they’re trying to rush this thing through. And we have a whistleblower that told us that the original game-plan was to roll this out in 2050. But then those who were involved in this got greedy, and pulled this forward, to 2030., and then to 2020. [………]
The thing is : we have the evidence. We have been speaking to all these scientists, and other people, over a hundred at this time, and these very same people that testified before our committee, can testify before the courts of law…”

“Can testify” before corrupt courts is one thing. What’s more to the point is that planning something for decades doesn’t mean you’ve got things executed well. On the contrary, it tends to get shambolic.

What can we do: develop self-sufficiency, and patiently wait for the big players and the big words to exhaust themselves. Take a look at studies of negotiation, “Spiral dynamics,” Berdyaev on the fate of man in the modern world, to be ready to jump at an opportunity to lead, when it appears.

That’s for starters.

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 3, 2021 11:43 AM
Reply to  Hello World

Set up eco settlements well away from the covidian society. Their world does not exist in reality.

David Robinson
David Robinson
May 3, 2021 8:01 AM

Channel 4 gets in on the MSM hysteria bullshit.

March was Brazil, April was India, now it’s May, and Chile’s time to have the spotlight.

Just to put this in perspective, on 30/04/2021;

Chile – population 18,950,000, covid related deaths as at today 26,247 = 0.13%
India – population 1,400,000, deaths 204,832, = 0.014%
Brazil – population 211,000,000 deaths 401,186 = 0.19%
UK – population 68 million, ‘deaths’ 127,245 = 0.18%

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 3, 2021 8:10 AM
Reply to  David Robinson

There is no such thing as covid. There has never been a single covid death.

David Robinson
David Robinson
May 3, 2021 8:30 AM
Reply to  Peter Sky

I’m not saying there is! Or has been.

My point is that it doesn’t matter whether there is or there isn’t and you risk turning off people who might support you by muddying the water. I showed my wife the Yeadon video on Bitchute the other day and she finally came round to my point of view, but she hated the ‘gates of hell’ references and the inference that there is an agenda to kill the vast majority of the population. Ditto my brother, who had a similar view to my wife after watching the video. They’re far more likely to buy Dr John Lee’s video published on Unlocked over the weekend, which tends to postulate the cock up theory rather than conspiracy theory in a less dramatic way. Although yes, the music is very annoying. Lee repeats much of what Yeadon says about variants and asymptomatic spread and I would tend to spread the word with that video rather than Yeadon’s.

Scientists should stick to science (Yeadon would agree but as he says, there is no support forthcoming from high profile politicians). We have seen what science does when it becomes politicised, over the last 14 months. Scientists are running the country.

I can guarantee that if you tell a single person that there isn’t a virus, particularly someone like my wife and brother, both of whom has had the vaccine (I haven’t, we’re all in our early 60s) then you will lose them straightaway. Much more likely to win the argument by pointing out the disproportionate reaction, the MSM generated mass media hysteria and the futility of masks and lockdowns.

You make my point by posting the video with Dr Lanka. Just over 3,000 views. Lee’s video had had 29,600 views on Facebook yesterday and the same video has had 72,000 views on youtube (Ivor Cummins’s channel). It only aired for the first time on 01/05.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 3, 2021 8:49 AM
Reply to  David Robinson

I agree, David. It’s pointless to say Covid’s a hoax because that’s telling people they’ve been had. We know how they’ll react: denial and stomping off.

It doesn’t matter if Covid is a lab-tweaked SARS or just a rebranded flu. It could even be both (a gain-of-function laboratory creation that is primarily transmitted through the “vaccine”) while excess deaths up to now are within normal seasonal levels.

We must not be distracted into counting bullet cases on the Grassy Knoll. They don’t affect the conclusions.

And how are we going to convince people that the poison’s in the vaccine if we’ve already told them the thing’s a hoax?

The key arguments are:

  • Freedom of choice and against mandatory vaccination.
  • In parallel with that is to show that lockdown/social distancing/masks are counterproductive, cause illness and cost lives.
  • And by extension, that the shot/jab is more harm than benefit and will ultimately also cost lives.
  • The motive can be left for later, because it will only make sense to those with some understanding of geopolitics and the power structure and who know what has been discussed over many decades.
Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 3, 2021 9:18 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

If Prince Philip couldn’t convince people of motive, with his in-your-face taunt about coming back as a virus… after decades publicly campaigning for depopulation at the head of some of the key UNESCO-linked institutions while attending Bilderberg as recently as 2019, it’s doubtful if anything can.

The intention is clear as day. Even the slippery-floor-stain-in-a-whorehouse that is Snopes, founded by bordello barfly David Mikkelson, doesn’t try to deny it.

Neil Llewellyn
Neil Llewellyn
May 3, 2021 9:28 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The above two comments are spot on. We have to navigate and tread so carefully around folk and try to approach them in the position they are in using facts and data and allowing them to see and respect another point of view. It may then sink in. The more mainstream the dissenting view the better which is why these rare brave voices are so valuable. Many people are highly propagandized, and when they are well educated they are even harder to convince. Motive should come second as that is a long journey of discovery (although after saville, epstein, the Iraq war, mk ultra etc…eg the acknowledged ones… You’d have hoped it would be easier … Even 9/11 with it’s severe narrative holes is a step too far for most of my peers and trying to get them to even watch Corbett or mazzucco on this is a challenge)

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 3, 2021 1:49 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

excess deaths are not normal as has been pointed out to you multiple times. you simply go back to a different era to make such claim when clearly the deaths are far out of the expected range. some 25% in the US. such lies serve to cover up the scale of the atrocity. something that has already been pointed out to you. deaths do not jump 25% in a year. that is not normal at all.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-raw-death-count

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 3, 2021 2:08 PM
Reply to  Peter Sky

its not even a year but from the moment the covid cult started introducing their “measures”. In 2019 influenza is blamed for no more that 1,213 deaths. This is 1% of the supposed covid numbers so how can he call it a “rebranded flu” and say it doesn’t matter? Simple answer is it matters a great deal because it covers up the scale of the atrocity and provides a cover story for the deaths which is why they have these people posting to say it is just the flu, going to lengths to try and convince people to continue spreading virus claims.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/deathsfrominfluenzain2019and2020

Nick
Nick
May 4, 2021 3:45 PM
Reply to  Peter Sky

The most deaths happened in countries that did hard lockdown. As their policy was to chuck seriously ill people with all sorts of hospital acquired infections into the care sector….and lock them in. Upto 70% of deaths in care. The second spike was in care homes in January February after the injections were launched into the most vulnerable…they used care homes to drive “covid” death rate
Genocidal bastards. Had this emptying of the hospitals in to the most vulnerable section of society not happened they wouldn’t of had their pandemic…there was zero excess mortality outwith this.

Magnus
Magnus
May 3, 2021 11:53 AM
Reply to  David Robinson

Cowan and Kaufman had hundreds of thousands (millions?) of views on youtube before being taken down. Youtube is actively removing clips & manipulating views as they wish. However, Kaufmans remaining clip with “Shameless Maya” has 360,000 views (‘The Healthy Truth with Dr. Andy Kaufman’) and his interview on London Real has 500 k views.
https://freedomplatform.tv/unmasking-the-lies-around-covid-19-facts-vs-fiction-of-the-coronavirus-pandemic/
If germ theory is wrong about viruses & exosomes, there is no or little basis for vaccination. It needs to be discussed IMO.

David Robinson
David Robinson
May 3, 2021 12:29 PM
Reply to  Magnus

If germ theory is wrong about viruses & exosomes, there is no or little basis for vaccination”. 

Good luck explaining germ theory to your average person – you’re already on the backfoot with your initial stance – Covid is a hoax. I went out for a drink with a friend a couple of weeks ago and he was almost frothing at the mouth when I told him I hadn’t had, and won’t be having, the vaccination. He told me that his daughter’s husband was one of those ‘conspiracy nutters who thinks it’s all a hoax’. The subject was changed to football after I informed him that ‘I’d done my research’. Mind you, he gets all his news and views from the MSM and doesn’t even have a ‘Faceache page or twatter’, as he calls them.

Perhaps ignorance is really bliss, eh!

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 3, 2021 6:32 PM
Reply to  David Robinson

One has to provoke a Branch Covidian to the point of a cognitive dissonance Catharsis!
It’s quite easy, and potentially dangerous and it depends on the level of dis-information and level of effective education. The whole point is to awaken a person’s bullshit detector.
The way to do it is to emphasize that the authorities have NEVER told the truth about anything, giving recent relevant political decisions that are transparent in their deceit, as well as how every parameter of modern life has been made toxic, then the same authorities claim they will save us and/or take care of us!!
As well, tell them that by following the money, one will find the origin of CoVid1984.

Edith
Edith
May 3, 2021 9:37 PM
Reply to  Ernest Judd

I visited one yesterday who appears to be suffering…well she claims to be suffering…from overall malaise and hard to function illness….I suggested softly that it may be the result of her enthusiastic uptake of the jab…nah she said. That was months ago…well actually only about 6 weeks ago from when she announced her participation….

so even when they may actually have side effects they enthusiastically deny it…it truly is an infliction of the mind.

jimsun
jimsun
May 3, 2021 1:33 PM
Reply to  David Robinson

My point is that it doesn’t matter whether there is or there isn’t and you risk turning off people who might support you by muddying the water.

Perhaps that was the objective.

David Robinson
David Robinson
May 3, 2021 2:04 PM
Reply to  jimsun

true!

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 3, 2021 1:39 PM
Reply to  David Robinson

you are saying there is and then denying that you did:

“Chile – population 18,950,000, covid related deaths as at today 26,247 = 0.13%”

covid means corona virus disease which means you said people died from a virus in chile.
you are using some crazy spin to try and argue people should claim there is a virus when there isn’t. obviously controlled opposition.

David Robinson
David Robinson
May 3, 2021 2:10 PM
Reply to  Peter Sky

hilarious.

I’m simply quoting stats. You need to work from the stance that the majority of people in this country (the UK) believe that there is a virus. By the time you’ve managed to convince them that there isn’t, EVERYONE will have been vaccinated and I won’t be going anywhere because the bloody vaccine passports will be a basic requirement. Everywhere. I can’t understand why you can’t see that.

Most people will simply refuse to believe that there government is aiming to kill them all off.

I can’t keep putting quotation marks every time I write ‘deaths’ – which I did when I wrote

UK – population 68 million, ‘deaths’ 127,245 = 0.18%

above.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 4, 2021 1:26 AM
Reply to  Peter Sky

They’ll always come up with charts and graphs that C-19 is a thing, but there is little way to prove that it’s not been ALL smoke and mirrors. I suspect the latter is real.

siamdave
siamdave
May 3, 2021 9:35 AM
Reply to  David Robinson

you forgot some zeroes there for India ..

David Robinson
David Robinson
May 3, 2021 9:58 AM
Reply to  siamdave

I did, yes, sorry! 1,400,000,000!

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 3, 2021 11:53 AM
Reply to  David Robinson

“Deaths”.

mgeo
mgeo
May 3, 2021 4:28 PM
Reply to  David Robinson

These are claimed deaths. In many countries, this is a good opportunity to eliminate specific groups of “useless eaters”, e.g. those occupying prime land, those resisting the regime, those on whom stolen development funds should have been spent, etc.

wardropper
wardropper
May 3, 2021 7:01 PM
Reply to  David Robinson

Iceland – population: 360,000
Covaxx deaths: 400,000

I believe this because somebody might conceivably have said it on TV…

David Robinson
David Robinson
May 3, 2021 8:50 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Hmm, but nobody would ever conceivably say it, would they? Even Cummings would have trouble spinning that one.

David Robinson
David Robinson
May 3, 2021 7:28 AM

I know which side I would’ve been on in Nazi Germany in the 30s. Whether I would’ve put my head above the parapet is another matter. I’m still trying to find the courage to post Dr John Lee’s Unlocked video on my Faceache page despite it being the more ‘acceptable’ face of the debate in that it avoids conspiracy theories.

Here’s a chap proving that the ‘virus’ was prevalent far earlier in 2019.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 3, 2021 6:30 PM
Reply to  David Robinson

Follow the money, NOT the virus.

Edith
Edith
May 3, 2021 9:51 PM
Reply to  David Robinson

Yes it was in aust too…though I am sure we won’t be going looking like they have there..the timing approx same.. the ones I saw were full blown…

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 7:18 AM
JoeC
JoeC
May 3, 2021 7:21 AM
Reply to  THX-1160

Don’t compare what’s happening now to fascism. This is from a different of kettle of fish.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 3, 2021 7:52 AM
Reply to  JoeC

Whatever’s happening people are behaving in the same way in that they’re ignoring those who are pointing out the anomalies in the story. People WANT to go along with the media story because it makes them feel safer. They don’t want to recognise the Big Lie just as they didn’t want to recognise what was being done to the Jews and other minorities during Nazism.

JoeC
JoeC
May 3, 2021 8:41 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Don’t compare it to fascism. There is no need to do that. Remember Godwins Law. Let’s see this as what it is. Leave the Nazi’s out of it.

wardropper
wardropper
May 3, 2021 7:08 PM
Reply to  JoeC

Leaving the Nazis out of it would be the equivalent of leaving the Conservative Party out of privatized health care.

They are one.

GeorgeB
GeorgeB
May 3, 2021 2:11 PM
Reply to  JoeC

Sorry but it’s been financed by the same people as is their Plandemic!
Mr Rotting Child would confirm if he wasn’t rubbing himself in naughty places:).

wardropper
wardropper
May 3, 2021 7:03 PM
Reply to  JoeC

This is called, “missing the point – on purpose”.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 3, 2021 7:23 AM
Reply to  THX-1160

Many seem to go along with the Covid narrative or blame it on incompetence… https://mobile.twitter.com/martinemavi/status/1267386711941799942

George Mc
George Mc
May 3, 2021 9:34 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The “incompetence” angle is the perfect cover. It sounds like you’re being critical but you’re letting the bastards off the hook as well as utterly distorting what is happening. Even better, incompetence, like “coincidence”, can neutralise any number of inconsistences and contradictions.

I think that when the propagandists, psychologists and intelligence operatives drew all this up (and don’t kid yourself that that’s paranoia. This is all carefully planned), they had the incompetence meme written in as a very basic and indispensable part of the script – perhaps even the most important part. Because it is this meme that stands as the official oppositional position. Which of course means that not only do we have a ball-less opposition but an opposition which actively joins with the powers above.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 3, 2021 10:01 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The incompetence meme is deeply embedded in the British power structure… easiest explained as “gentlemen amateurs”. It’s ingrained in the top schools that produce the mandarin bureaucrats that one should not appear to try too hard, if at all.

The following paragraph will be familiar to those from the Anglosphere but may be news to some.

Amateur does not mean the absence of professional skills. It implies the right to dominate some activity (by family connection or status) regardless of skill. It had its origin in the aristocrat’s disdain for work and later found its expression in the division of British sport in to amateurs (the aristocrats and gentry) and professionals (the working class sportsmen). This was not merely about exclusive clubs: it meant working class sportsmen were often excluded from national competition because they could not afford to play long seasons of sport without pay. The amateurs, with private incomes, did not work and thus could dominate the leagues.

Back to incompetence. Like the affectation of a drawl and vague understatement, the mask of incompetence is very useful as a tool of deception. By hiding skill, one hides ambition. There’s no need, anyhow, to ‘sweat it’ if one advances by connection rather than merit.

Crucially — this is the core trait of Yes Minister, the TV show that best exemplified mandarin bureaucracy — if you let others grab the limelight, if you arrange the chess pieces but let them make the move, you avoid accountability.

Some keen young professional wants to earn his spurs. Encourage him, then stand back. If someone has to catch the blame, your hands are clean and folded behind your back. If things go well, you’ll still get your OBE (Other Buggers’ Efforts).

George Mc
George Mc
May 3, 2021 10:52 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The following paragraph will be familiar to those from the Anglosphere but may be news to some.

Is that paragraph your own or are you quoting someone? It sounds very much like Thorstein Veblen who was a brilliant critic of the parasitical aristocracy. (And a big hit with GG Preparata!)

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 3, 2021 12:31 PM
Reply to  George Mc

That’s mine, partly observation after working with one of Boris Johnson’s classmates.

siamdave
siamdave
May 3, 2021 11:27 AM
Reply to  THX-1160

Germany did not ‘descend into fascism’, ‘fascism’ is what happened in Italy under Mussolini – Germany actually rose from chaos and depression to the strongest economy in Europe 3 years after the Germans voted to give Hitler and the National Socialst party a chance. Were some of the ‘nazis’ bad people? Sure – but you don’t want to condemn the whole movement because of that – look at the USA, a great idea and a country that did some great things – but has also done a lot of horrific things in its history, and had some very bad people. If you’re so sure about fighting the covid propaganda – maybe you ought to think about other propaganda you’ve bought without understanding it was propaganda too. Hitler’s National Socialism – whose biggest move by far was kicking the international banking cartel out of Germany – was a major challenge to capitalism, and that’s why he and it were taken out with such extreme prejudice.

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 3, 2021 12:19 PM
Reply to  siamdave

You forgot to mention that Hitler et al redefined the word “socialism” and gave it a whole new meaning …

siamdave
siamdave
May 3, 2021 12:35 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

actually the capitalists redefined the word, while creating their upside down world where the good guys (socialists) become the bad guys (evil fascist bastards who want to rule your life in their pathetic miserable societies!!!!!) – and the true ‘bad guys’ (capitalist bankers and their many minions and ‘one dollar equals one vote’ pretend-democracies, stealing endlessly from the poor to give to the rich, etc etc) become the good guys (bringing democracy to the downtrodden masses!!!) (barf)

mgeo
mgeo
May 3, 2021 4:44 PM
Reply to  siamdave

Also remember the ongoing attempt to redefine fascism as something other than what Mussolini specified (defined it). Even here, the typical spin is to equate it to Nazism, an unspeakable evil the Allies saved us from.

siamdave
siamdave
May 3, 2021 5:42 PM
Reply to  mgeo

ah, to paraphrase someone as well left unmentioned, the propaganda speaks loudly within you …

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 3, 2021 7:14 AM

From India, an on-the-spot report by a visitor from Britain challenges ‘old media’ reports of death in the streets. I have tried to find the original version in order to confirm the location but so far have only seen it via Sean at SGT Report.

Eight minutes in @00:08:30
https://www.sgtreport.com/2021/05/biden-harris-guilty-of-unimaginable-crimes-against-children/

JoeC
JoeC
May 3, 2021 7:01 AM

The line between us and them is no longer blurred. I can see clearly now what they really think of us. Is isn’t enough we slave away. They want us apart and to wear a muzzle. You wouldn’t do that to your pet dog if you cared about Fido.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 3, 2021 12:42 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

You’re on a roll with the memes T👍

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 1:40 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

they’re supposed to be made into stickers, not memes.

https://t.me/s/JoinTheWhiteRose

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 3, 2021 2:30 PM
Reply to  THX-1160

I know… I checked after I posted that comment… they’re still good tho.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 3, 2021 6:41 AM

Pfizer and FDA documents updated on the fly, says The Last American Vagabond

TLAV examined an updated document of Apr 6, 2021 on the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. https://www.fda.gov/media/144413/download

Alterations may be tightening up the verbiage but they also give a very different impression to the casual reader, says TLAV. Instead of saying there is no FDA approval, the document now simply mentions the emergency use authorization.

“The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has issued an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) to permit the emergency use of the unapproved product, Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine…”

Under contraindication the document specifically warns not to give the shot to “individuals with known history of a severe allergic reaction” and to be sure to have “appropriate medical treatment” on hand to manage such reactions.

TLAV says this more specific warning appears to narrow Pfizer’s responsibility and push it on to those administering the shot. Some centres are said to have told people with allergies they can take the shot so long as they have a personal EpiPen.

Many centres dispensing the shot do not have any such emergency medical treatment on site, for example the many Drive-Thru and Walk-in Immunization Clinics.

“Contraindications

Do not administer Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to individuals with known history of a severe allergic reaction (e.g., anaphylaxis) to any component of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine (see Full EUA Prescribing Information).”

Finally, the list of possible adverse reactions is not updated to reflect widespread reports of conditions like blood clots and cerebral venous thrombosis — nor does it mention warning signs like headaches.

“Warnings

Appropriate medical treatment used to manage immediate allergic reactions must be immediately available in the event an acute anaphylactic reaction occurs following administration of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine.

Adverse Reactions in Post Authorization ExperienceSevere allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis, and other hypersensitivity reactions (e.g., rash, pruritus, urticaria, angioedema), diarrhea, vomiting, and pain in extremity (arm) have been reported following administration of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine outside of clinical trials. Additional adverse reactions, some of which may be serious, may become apparent with more widespread use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine.”

Discussed from 02:24:00

More at: https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/self-spreading-vaccines-self-amplifying-mrna-vaccines-covid-vaccine-menstrual-disruption/

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 3, 2021 9:32 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus
mgeo
mgeo
May 3, 2021 4:48 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

The obsolete list of “adverse” reactions is deliberate – and largely unavailable anyway.

Big al
Big al
May 3, 2021 4:38 AM

Would I risk prison or death? I guess that’s what it comes down to, how far will we take it, relative to how far they take it. I’ve mentioned that before relative to the number of people who say they don’t want to take the vaccine, etc. What happens if they, the globalists, go Full Monty on this, with the vax passports every frigging where, making it so you can’t do a damn thing in public You have to find ways to get your food, find ways to get medical treatment, you can’t work, can’t go to school, black market, underground stuff. Hard times and hard truths. If it goes really ballistic, what’s going to happen to all the brave talk? Do they have us by the proverbial balls? I hope not, I tend to think not. But it’s unreal we’re addressing the question.

Arsebiscuits
Arsebiscuits
May 3, 2021 12:03 PM
Reply to  Big al

Just watch Demolition man again and you will see how it’s going to a divided society.

Hele
Hele
May 3, 2021 4:36 AM

“Dr Martin Feeley, who was forced to resign by the HSE because he spoke out against “draconian” Covid restrictions, tells Gript he feels the population has been “terrorised” during the pandemic, and that he was speaking for doctors who are afraid to speak out for fear of repercussions. Dr Feeley says ‘science is being ignored’ for some Covid restrictions, we need to get back to properly assessing risk, and that the lockdown should be lifted. He also opposes giving children ‘fast-tracked’ vaccines.”

Shelby
Shelby
May 3, 2021 4:24 AM

I think I would’ve been a scared and compliant sheeple in the very beginning. Then after a couple of months I’d have woken up and started seeking out like-minded individuals to seek out and push back.

In March 2020 I was afraid, I wore a mask everywhere, I used wet-wipes to touch door-handles. I scanned my own produce through at the supermarket cashier, I went back to my car if I forgot to bring my own pen. A few friends kept sending me video clips from corbett report & other articles which I didn’t even open because I was so annoyed to be sent these crazy conspiracy theories. One day I relented and opened Corbett report’s medical martial law video (https://www.corbettreport.com/medical-martial-law-2020/). It resonated so uncomfortably closely that I couldn’t dismiss it. I got sucked in. Within days I’d begun to research myself, check sources, found off-guardian, found ukcolumn.org, lastamericanvagabond. I stopped wearing a mask & being afraid. I live in a foreign country in Asia so I have to be careful on how and when I am vocal; deportation for spreading “misinformation” is a real risk. I have 1:1 conversations with locals each day and spread nuggets of truth. I attempt to shape thought & critical thinking in the local news forums. Maybe it’s not enough. Maybe I need to get more active with physical media now, stickers on lamp-posts directing to alt media sites. I feel guilted when I read articles here & elsewhere, rightly saying that we need to do everything in our power to attempt to avert this disaster.

I leave you with some more truths to spread far and wide. Let’s keep the momentum going to make this awful house of cards come tumbling down..

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/03/30/f-o-i-request-shows-22
07-died-within-28-days-of-having-the-covid-vaccine-in-scotland-during-february/

https://twitter.com/BordersAgainst/status/1376837636648763392?s=19

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/deaths_for_any_reason_within_28#incoming-1741621
 

tony_0pmoc
tony_0pmoc
May 3, 2021 2:54 AM

I would be me. I hadn’t done anything wrong…what is this about original sin?
So I got very much older. I am 67 now, and I don’t regret a thing..Sure I made lots of mistakes. Everyone does, but I have never had any evil in my heart or soul and have always tried to do the right thing…so I just wrote this – cos its true. I have o plans on dying soon. I am just trying to lose weight and get fit. This is probably too long and boring for Off-G…but I am going to post it anyway. I am not dead yet. I just can’t stand people wearing masks. They really p1ss me off

Tony

Jeff Carmack
Jeff Carmack
May 3, 2021 2:52 AM

B oy c o tt f a m e

Jill
Jill
May 3, 2021 1:58 AM

It is important to understand the answer to this question. I also think that anyone who can, must try to make it so others can resist. Maybe that’s supporting a breadwinner so they can not get tested, wear a mask, get a vaccine which by law, they should not be forced to have, but we all know, lawful is a scarce commodity right now. Whatever you can do, do it.

Also there is a lot to be learned from the March of the Basij.

Maxwell
Maxwell
May 3, 2021 1:48 AM

It’s completely ABSURD that this happened and the masses aren’t even remotely suspicious.

Everything was planned and rehearsed.

We’re living in the Truman Show.

Find the exit.

https://twitter.com/IsraelAnderson/status/1388721675861176320

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 3, 2021 4:52 AM
Reply to  Maxwell

It’s deeply fecken frustrating that the large majority can’t see thru this grotesque charade of this supposed, alleged pandemic. However Max, do you get the feeling where you are that more people are waking up, compared to say 10 or even 12 months ago?
My “exit” is I’m just not complying with any of this bullshit anymore, regardless of whether I’m fined or jailed. Enough is enough.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 3, 2021 5:37 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I have never complied, I know it’s all bullshit. The problem is gen x leaders were all vaxxed within an inch of their lives for things we boomers skated through with a couple of days off school so they don’t know about trifles like natural immune systems that have kept human going for thousands of millenia, they are in love with little jabs. When some boomers join the crap I want to fucking scream at them.

DomoebaMalingera
DomoebaMalingera
May 3, 2021 5:46 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Aye hold fast and stand your ground, we are eternal sovereign beings and when you comprehend this nothing can touch you!

Shardlake
Shardlake
May 3, 2021 9:09 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

It’s more than deeply frustrating, the large majority of the population don’t even question the government narrative. It’s also sad to report that in the backwater area where I live I see very little difference between now and twelve months ago. I see single occupants driving cars wearing face coverings. I see no other customer at my local supermarket not wearing a face covering and I am the only one that has the temerity to do barefaced shopping. Apart from my initial run-in with the supermarket supervisor nobody now challenges me and I largely have you and a number of other contributors here for the encouragement to make the stand. Having said that I fear it won’t get any better any time soon, the population is too well indoctrinated with the mass propaganda facilitated by a compliant press, TV and street advertising. I live in the vainglorious hope that nothing lasts for ever.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 3, 2021 9:57 AM
Reply to  Shardlake

Glad you’re here also Shardlake👍
For me, it’s very simple: I refuse to comply with this crap, and I refuse to give up and wallow in despair, despite the seeming odds against us. I also try and connect with Nature in a meaningful way.
And I also take on board any positive I can find. For example, tonight on the train home, there were 3 of us standing in fairly close proximity without facemasks on, while a few others further down the carriage were unmasked as well.
That’s a positive in my book.
In saying that tho, I do get pissed off and very frustrated at all the others who comply like a herd of blind sheep. Those who comply out of sheer cowardice, or from fear of confrontation, or from fear of being fined. In the many times I’ve sat on trains and buses without a mask on, not one person has said a word or challenged me. None.
I’ve even had ticket inspectors come up and check my travel card, and they have said nothing about me travelling maskless. They just go “thank you sir, enjoy your day”!

CryptoKazar
CryptoKazar
May 3, 2021 1:39 AM

Lots of 77 brigade useful idiots on this thread trying to split the opposition and confuse everyone, its the chicoms from the jungle of Iraq no no its the American deep state, no no its the reptilian people, They underestimate the intelligence of those who frequent Off Guardian. They still think we all live in the performance artist Alex Jones era
BTW 77 brigade puppets in case you hadn’t noticed your masters have been telling us all that the military and the police are evil white racists and must be destroyed, sooner or latter they will turn those you are helping to brainwash ON YOU ! You are in a loose loose situation, your aiding and abetting your own demise ! Your banking masters may not be able to fool us, but they certainly have done a number on you haven’t they !

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 7:34 AM
Reply to  CryptoKazar

they underestimate our intelligence

conversely, perhaps we overestimate their intelligence.

a loose loose situation

I really can’t imagine what that would be; perhaps you meant “a lose/lose situation”.

CryptoKazar
CryptoKazar
May 3, 2021 11:22 AM
Reply to  THX-1160

I wouldn’t say they’re particularly intelligent, with all the howlers they’ve made with their scams over the years,I’d say we’ve been over estimating them, their power relies solely on their control of the media and their chief tool is tell a Lie often enough it becomes the truth, and trying to mock those who expose those Lies, in the hope that people will be too embarrassed to speak out. and thats pretty much it.
And Yes my dyslexia manifests itself again, I did mean Lose not Loose ;D

j.c
j.c
May 3, 2021 1:24 AM

wehrmacht soldaten? lol

Mark R. Elsi
Mark R. Elsi
May 3, 2021 1:24 AM

Deputy Führer Rudolf Hess
A Courageous Hero For Peace
by Mark R. Elsis
https://RudolfHess.net

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 3, 2021 12:25 AM

Who would I be? This guy?

choosing the secretary – YouTube

RobG
RobG
May 3, 2021 12:13 AM

I believe that dailymail.co.uk is the most widely read newspaper online.

They published this article today. Just look at the reader’s comments…

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9534587/Dominic-Raab-rejects-calls-speed-lockdown-exit.html

Wraith
Wraith
May 3, 2021 12:37 AM
Reply to  RobG

I’ve been scanning the comments section of a few of the rags for a while now, amazing how much it has turned around recently. Joe Public know they have been lied to, and they don’t like it. Took them long enough to catch up.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 3, 2021 12:42 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Yeah. Check out zerohedge. The comments can be comedy gold.

Sofia
Sofia
May 3, 2021 12:45 AM
Reply to  Wraith

The sleepers awake hopefully they will have pitchforks at the ready!

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 3, 2021 1:40 AM
Reply to  Sofia

Pitchforks are SO Thatcher/Reagan era of our discontent.

It’s like the NRA gun nuts in USA pretending that personal firearms are going to make a bullet, or sniffle, of difference to stop any of this onslaught of institutional takeover. That approach hasn’t even halted or slowed a single mask, in a universal influx of masks LOL.

Confronting these power-grabbers publicly with reason and truth, hourly, is the only way forward.

Frieda Vizel
Frieda Vizel
May 3, 2021 2:56 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Well said. I don’t get the insane obsession with personal firearms as the solution. It’s incredibly childish.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 7:56 AM
Reply to  Frieda Vizel

this is an opinion which the global ruling class has been careful to inculcate in liberal Goodthinkers, apparently including yourself.

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the down-stairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you’d be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur — what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn — The Gulag Archipelago

Thom1111
Thom1111
May 3, 2021 3:16 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

If the right to bear arms is so ineffective against the controllers, why do THEY keep trying to find a way to take them away? C’mon, history shows us that Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot et al went for broke when they achieved gun confiscation.

goldhoarder
goldhoarder
May 3, 2021 4:21 AM
Reply to  Thom1111

Like I just mentioned. I live in a red county in a super blue state. Those idiots are all concentrated from Seattle to Olympia. You go over the cascades and it is a whole different ballgame. There isn’t a damn thing Inslee or Gates can do about it. What are they going to do? Send in the national guard? Good luck with that. Everybody despises them out here.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 4, 2021 1:35 AM
Reply to  goldhoarder

There are arguments for gun ownership that I understand, benighted as I am on the subject, obviously, such as those by Joe Bageant ( joebageant.com ) who grew up in a gun culture and veered hard left as a self-described “leftneck” from Winchester, Virginia. He can’t even find a publisher in the USA, so contrarian to any established politics here. He’d be more comfortable in Cuba (well, he died 10 years ago). He is a brilliant essayist, and has had big numbers at his website, but I agree with him about everything but guns. I’ve been a security guard off and on over decades, but mostly I still feel that guns are no answer to not so much the firepower or military they have today, but the technology.

Have guns had any impact on our current plight? Enough said.

Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight, and don’t bring a gun to a 5G and brain-reading fight. It’s a non-starter, completely pointless.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 4, 2021 1:36 AM
Reply to  Thom1111

See my reply below to goldholder, after his posted at May 3, 4:21 AM

goldhoarder
goldhoarder
May 3, 2021 4:12 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

This is complete and total nonsense. I live in rural WA state and haven’t paid an ounce of attention to any of this since the end of last Spring. No masks. No social distancing. Parties. Dancing. Going to bars and restaurants with no masks. I went into Seattle to have dinner with the uncle in law. I agreed to do this out of curiosity mostly. First time I put a mask on in nearly a year. Talk about two different universes! Good luck convincing those idiots with 100 percent mask compliance outdoors of anything the TV acreen doesn’t tell them! I’ll stick with my crowd and we’ll keep our guns. It not only makes a difference. It makes a huge difference. Believe what you want though. Lol

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 4, 2021 1:40 AM
Reply to  goldhoarder

I might try a phaser, though. Guns are so old school. I guess they can kill people, but they aren’t much match for the toys they have at Langley, VA and DoD. Not by a longshot. In gang warfare, I lived in East LA for years and saw gun play. I’ve been shot at. I’ve heard cogent arguments for gun ownership, especially one 80 year old lady who took the inner city bus and kept one in her purse.

I am merely saying in the larger scheme, guns are like peeing in the winds they are blowing our way. What, new age bazookas? Small comfort against ubiquitous masks.

Wraith
Wraith
May 3, 2021 6:31 AM
Reply to  Sofia

A gallows and rope would be quite useful too.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 8:02 AM
Reply to  Wraith

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Corarden
Corarden
May 3, 2021 9:52 AM
Reply to  RobG

The DM is a good indicator on the mood of middle England. Unlike the other papers they’ve been clever enough to print the occasional dissenting voice. I’ve noticed them deleting huge stacks of comments during negative pile ons to articles about the government which the trolls have been drowning in, which is hilarious to see.

An example.

BillyH, Manchester, 16 hours ago
Councils are advertising for Covid Marxhalls from Jun 21 for a one year contract. It will NEVER end until ppl have had enough and do what they did when thy did not want the Poll Tax – say ‘no more’

It’s been going on for a long time in the comments section, which indicates to me that there is a much lower take up to the satanic jab, and all the polls are fraudulent. No surprises there then.

Peter
Peter
May 3, 2021 12:09 AM

If the good guys won WW2 why are we all in a hellish Orwellian dystopia and facing extinction ?

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
May 3, 2021 12:16 AM
Reply to  Peter

Who told you the good guys won?

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 3, 2021 1:42 AM
Reply to  Winston Smith

Exactly. The 3rd Reich merely relocated to Langley and rebranded. Segué to the 4th, called “V-E”.

Peter
Peter
May 3, 2021 3:50 AM
Reply to  Winston Smith

OffG.

bohdi
bohdi
May 3, 2021 7:45 AM
Reply to  Winston Smith

I have just watched Europa – the last battle 2017 – It is in ‘verboten’ territory and not sure this comment will go through. To be honest i can understand that. It certainly will be an excuse for trolls to paint OffG as an “extemist rightwing blah blah” website.
If so, then i really urge whoever moderates this message to watch it in full on their own time.

It is an extremely disturbing documentary, incredibly hard to watch, emotional, intellectually and ideologically. It challenged everything i thought i knew about the last hundred years and especially WW2. I certainly won’t say, currently, that i accept all of it. It inverts the history written by the victors.

I think a bit of my personal history is relevant. I am 1st generation South African of European descent. I came of age in the early 90’s , the Berlin wall fell, apartheid ended (Thank God! – Eventually) and the world was in major flux. The future was full of promise and hope. I studied architecture at the university of Witwatersrand, a very good “left wing” (when perhaps when that term still had some meaning – or perhaps as the saying goes, if you are 20 and not communist you have no heart, if you are 30 and still a communist you have no brain) good people there – we went into the townships and saw the horrors of apartheid 1st hand. Most of our projects were community centers , how to transform and uplift these neglected grim areas. Sadly 30 years lately not much has changed.
Sandton now has a row of billion Rand + buildings , housing major corporations and 5km away Alexandra is still a squalid township, housing people who scramble to survive. As do most of the indigenous peoples of this beautiful land. It is truly as tragic situation.

I have always referred to these billion Rand buildings as corporate fascist edifices. There is no integration of the urban fabric, extremely hostile to the pedestrian with porsches and fat german cars zipping by.

As recently in 2019 i stood in the voting booth and could not vote for the Democratic party anymore. I seriously contemplated voting for Julius Malema of the Economic Freedom Fighters, he is outwardly hostile to “white people” – i hate that term & ‘White monopoly capital” and has said some extremely racist things. (pushing 50 i still yearn for a fair, just and more equitable world. I could not in the end bring myself to vote for him and ultimately voted for the ACDP – the African Christian Democratic party . I am not religious, although brought up Roman Catholic currently all i can say is i am agnostic with Buddhist (a “science” of the mind) leanings.
I know i made the right decision when Malema was calling for return to hard lockdown level 5 when we started to open up again. This after the crushing lockdowns were adversely affecting the poorest communities. Yes they have hit the middle class & independent small businesses hard but as in the rest of the world the rich are blooming. Raking in that cash, flowing into the new opportunities created by this “Covid crisis” and “building back Better” – IT is booming, the stock exchange is doing well.

We need to do Continued Professional Development courses (CPD) and all these are now online – via zoom or MS Teams etc (which i refuse to use) – i can no longer go to an actual seminar & sit in a room with real people (Biohazards!!) , i am not sure how this is going to pan out and if my license, to practice as an architect, will be suspended if i can’t obtain these points…..

I am just trying to give a context to where i am coming from as the link that i will post at the bottom of this comment will seem quite extreme. and make no mistake, it is extreme, at least for me.

So about 2 years ago i downloaded this documentary and watched the first 2 episodes and thought, what unbelievable horseshit propaganda is this?? I thought i had deleted it but found it the other day on my hard drive. It is a 12 hour documentary in 10 parts.

It certainly does employ emotionally manipulative propaganda and as with everything this days needs to be watched with a critical mind, aware of the techniques of manipulation and skeptical of the ‘facts’ . I just finished watching it last night (and need to watch the 1st episodes i watched 2 years ago again). I am still reeling from the onslaught of it all. I certainly need to do further research.

Have i been ‘had’ in this rabbit hole as so many have been had with this Kovid fraud? Maybe….

I think it will be even harder for most English and american people to watch than myself as you were ‘victorious’ and wrote the history, so it will be be even more engrained in you than the rest of the western world

I have been bitterly disappointed with the actions of NATO countries for the last 20 years. The wars, the global financial manipulation. I lived in London for 3 years and went on the marches against the iraq wars, was caught up in the ‘ketteling’ and watched on in dismay as the war continued non the less, based on lies. The subsequent destruction of Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia etcetc the “colour revolutions” in Ukraine. The resultant migrant crisis. In fact i actively supported the migrants from these broken and smashed counties to swarm into Europe because all these wars in the middle east created the issue in the first place. You made your bed, now lie in it.

The stunning depth of the deception around Kovid 1984 certainly has shaken the sand sand out of my brain and certainly do realise the danger of opening ones mind to other aspects in history that, seemed so solid, a short 405 days ago. In that other life. If they can lie so blatantly about this and convince so many, what else about has been lied about? What other aspects of my “reality” is false?

So this documentary is, mostly, about WW2 from Hitlers point of view, the Nazi point of view. The last two episodes touch on the current global structure as a result of the war. Although made in 2017 It certainly is relevant to the current Biosecurity state roling out around us. RFID chips (old clunky tech) vaccine passports, the restructuring of global capital (kovid is being used as a pretext) digital money, social credit scores etcetc

Even if you reject most of thesis of this documentary, for those interested in history there are extremely interesting and useful parts eg the fire bombing of Dresden, the concentration camps for German soldiers after the war.
Even if only from trying to view these clear war crimes from the other side.

For those that can get past the some (a lot?) of clearly insidious propaganda techniques employed, hold on to your seats. Its a hellava ride.

Employ your critical thinking, be skeptical and do your own research, as i shall need to do.

https://europathelastbattle.wordpress.com/watch/

mgeo
mgeo
May 3, 2021 5:04 PM
Reply to  bohdi

Post-apartheid, the subversion of the SA government parallels the subversion of the Yeltsin government.

bohdi
bohdi
May 3, 2021 6:45 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Indeed, our previous finance minister, Trevor Manual, now works for the Rothschilds. They now occupy an ostentatious new building but a few km away from where i write this. The rapidly revolving door creates a blizzard of poverty for most and a gentle breeze of wealth for the Selected.

wardropper
wardropper
May 3, 2021 7:11 PM
Reply to  Winston Smith

A good guy…

steadydirt
steadydirt
May 4, 2021 2:29 AM
Reply to  Peter

umm russia stopped germany

steadydirt
steadydirt
May 4, 2021 2:30 AM
Reply to  steadydirt

at great expense of life

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 2, 2021 11:16 PM

We need to organise a boycott of the covidian traitors. Here is one company called toolstation to add to the list. Abusing a lady for not wearing a mask! I wonder where they manufacture their tools?

https://twitter.com/1BJDJ/status/1388423695723638784

Wraith
Wraith
May 2, 2021 11:34 PM
Reply to  Peter Sky

Poor woman, I hope she is pursuing a legal challenge against this blatant breach of the discrimination act.

Corarden
Corarden
May 3, 2021 9:57 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Send them an email, telling them you just saw the twitter video and you will boycott them and be telling all your friends to do the same.

https://northampton.cylex-uk.co.uk/company/toolstation—northampton-19110842.html

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 3, 2021 12:14 AM
Reply to  Peter Sky

“There are various ways to deal with Flu Nazi Miscreants. Brick Therapy may do the trick, as a starter, the price of plate glass being what it is.”

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 3, 2021 2:01 AM
Reply to  Peter Sky

Boycotts were once a Gandhi- powerful tool, and I barraged groups and populists nationally with calls for that, after the absurd Kerry/W-Bush electoral robbery/meltdown in 2004, to not much avail. Perhaps a little.

Fast forward to 2021.

Boycott Musk? whose net worth rose from $26 billion in March 2020 to $210 billion merely 9 (Covidized) MONTHS later?

Boycott Bezos and Amazon, who had only a -comparatively- modest bonanza in the same time frame, from $105 billion to $190+ billion…?!

Good luck with that one.

I don’t give my biz to any of these perps, for years. OK, maybe 2% in a pinch, since it’s a moot point anyway.

I have been so anti-consumerism for years as general policy, that my annual outlay is under 4 figures anyway.

Whatever that personal pee in the wind is worth!

Well, the worth is strictly symbolic, but that worth has of course skyrocketed, spiritually.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 2, 2021 11:03 PM

I’ve often thought of the analogy of occupied France during WW2, and those who blatantly collaborated with the Germans. We see that in the present with all those who have snitched on their neighbours and work colleagues for supposed “covid breaches”.
Shamefully, they have had no problem picking up the phone and calling the cops, all to ensure their “safety”. They would have rationalised to themselves that’s its about keeping their family “safe”.
Everyone I know, including former friends would have had no problem being collaborators. One even wanted the cops to hand out free facemasks.
So much cowardice here, especially in wealthy Western countries. So much blind acceptance of this new abnormal. Such a jaw dropping lack of rational thinking. So much going along to get along.
Fuck that. I refuse to go along with this outrageous crime. I will not collaborate with this bullshit. I refuse.

RobG
RobG
May 3, 2021 12:38 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Gezzah, France back in World War Two was a bit more complicated, because back then in occupied France a resister against the Nazis could be put up against a wall and shot, or be carted off to a concentration camp (which most times was also a death sentence). Most people just tried to survive and reluctantly went along with things (sound familiar?).

To this day the German occupation remains a very sore point in France, and amongst the very young as well as the very old.

I live in south west France, which was one of the most strongest areas of resistance. Everywhere around here you’ll see monuments to people who were murdered/shot dead by the Gestapo or SS or German Army.

Despite France being the most popular holiday destination in the world (pre-covid bullshit), very few, if any, Germans will holiday here because memories of the war years still run deep.

For the last ten years or so I’ve run a gite in sunny south west France, by the way.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 3, 2021 12:51 AM
Reply to  RobG

Okay, take your points Rob, I didn’t mean it to sound so simple re occupied France, however with the covid bollocks, I still see a helluva lot of cowardice here and just unquestioning obedience.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 8:08 AM
Reply to  RobG

there’s quite a lot of space between being a collaborator and a resister. presumably, that was the case even in nazi-occupied Europe.

https://t.me/JoinTheWhiteRose/2500

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les online
les online
May 3, 2021 1:43 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

‘we …forget the dream of european union predated the war. the spirit of charlemagne…invoked decades later in support of europe’s monetary union, had a sordid history of earlier invocations.
in late 1944, when it was evident to all with eyes to see and ears to hear that hitler had lost the war, between seven and eleven thousand frenchmen enlisted in a new SS division named after charlemagne – to give it its full name, the 33rd waffen grenadier division of the SS charlemagne (1st french).
in the months that followed they fought doggedly and were the last SS unit to defend the fuhrer’s bunker, fighting to the bitter end.
something motivated those frenchmen to fight, and that something had to do with the idea of paneuropa worthy of charlemagne’s legacy, which hitler represented in their deluded minds.
this is a potent reminder that the symbols of european unity, having fallen prey to the continents dark side once, may earsily do so again.’ (yanis varoufakis) …

Willem
Willem
May 3, 2021 7:33 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

‘ Everyone I know, including former friends would have had no problem being collaborators.’

For me it’s different. These people, of which you and I agree that they joined the dark side, consider themselves Luke Skywalkers who are saving us from the evil virus. What is needed is a wake-up call for them to show that they are actually people who believe that they are Luke Skywalkers while actually being storm troopers.

Sorry about the Star Wars analogy (a stupid movie), but it fits the idea.

They are good people, but they are fools. How to wise them up, that is the question.

Btw, people wise up every day, at least on this site of the planet they do.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
May 3, 2021 8:10 AM
Reply to  Willem

Thanks Willem… I know they think its about keeping themselves “safe” and saving grandma, that there’s a “deadly pandemic” (they think) that their TV told them about, and I’ve tried and tried to wake people up I know and to point out the glaring contradictions and to send them links to a whole heap of articles and videos, but it just gets exhausting and frustrating.
At times I want to yell at these people ‘for gods sake, open your eyes’.
And yes, I get the Star Wars analogy. Given the massive size of recent protests, especially in the UK and Europe, I do believe more people are waking up. And while I’m out selling the mag, I am meeting covid sceptics on a regular basis which helps! God forbid, I even get to hug some of them!

Ankie
Ankie
May 2, 2021 11:01 PM

My Grandfather stood up for what he believed was right, he put his life on the line in the Spanish Civil War.. and here am I, in my nice warm house, complaining about things on the internet.. O.o

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 3, 2021 12:09 AM
Reply to  Ankie

“So? What stops one from changing that.”

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 8:14 AM
Reply to  Ankie
Charlie
Charlie
May 2, 2021 10:53 PM

This war is very different because it’s being fought outside the vehicle of the national/ethnic group. It has no powerful totems, or old banners to rally to. In a sense it’s a class war because it is a war of the super-wealthy against the rest, and in a sense it is a civil war in that the dividing lines run through families, and there is no clear front. And it is a war of secret weapons and terrible deceits.
It’s not a war of good against evil however, and we won’t win it by stringing up a few Bond villains. I think it’s best seen as a war for spiritual health. The choice of sickness as a tool of control is symptomatic of a deeper understanding that we are all sick, controllers and controlled alike. We are as flabby in our spirits as we are in our bodies; unfit for the challenge, but we must struggle to re-learn virtue nonetheless. If we make that effort and face the hardships that will naturally ensue, then we will win back our power and start living up to our responsibilities to this shared project we call experience. Give something up, learn how to keep steady. Give your spare resources to fund people you trust and admire, and starve the beast as much as you are able. Make friends and clarify for yourself the red lines you do not intend to cross.

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 3, 2021 12:08 AM
Reply to  Charlie

maybe the front needs to be made more clear. if it says wear a mask on the door it is the treasonous wretches. if it says no masks allowed then it is allied forces.

DomoebaMalingera
DomoebaMalingera
May 3, 2021 5:55 AM
Reply to  Charlie

We are at a major fork in the road the choice is FEAR or LOVE it is that simple imo.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 8:18 AM
Reply to  Charlie

It’s not a war of good against evil however,

intelligence versus stupidity?

and we won’t win it by stringing up a few Bond villains.

conversely, we won’t lose it by stringing up a few Bond villains, either.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
May 3, 2021 8:31 AM
Reply to  Charlie

Right on Charlie! Doing exactly what you outline.

Tony
Tony
May 2, 2021 10:43 PM

Just watched the latest podcast from the Delingpod on patreon. Whilst I’m not a massive fan of patreon, I use it’s subscription services to get the Shaun Attwood stuff that isn’t available on youtube, particularly the Ryan Dawson interviews that cover stuff that would be deleted by youtube. James puts his stuff up on youtube for free a few days after he puts it on patreon. But I’m happy to be a paid subscriber to his patreon, the same as I’m happy to pay a voluntary subscription to OffG. I put my money where my mouth is. The Delingpod’s latest guest is the American feminist Naomi Wolf, who was a long-time adviser to the Democrat leadership, and voted for Biden. Then she woke up. Fully. This is an exceptional interview, where Naomi pays particular attention to the technocrat takeover of the UK (she describes the UK, Australia and Canada as the petri dishes for the takeover).

No links because it’s subscription. But, if you feel you can spare a few quid a month to support one of the small handful of journalists on our side, go to patreon to watch it. If you can’t. it’ll be available on youtube in the next day-or-two.

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 2, 2021 10:55 PM
Reply to  Tony

So she’s CIA then? , pushing BS to hide the takeover by the US via 5 eyes, of the 4 slave states.

‘Technocrat takeover’………….my arse. What the fuck is that? How gullible are you people. It is like saying the beef took over the cooking of the bourguignon, its idiocy.

Tony
Tony
May 2, 2021 11:05 PM
Reply to  Mango Green

Fourteen quid an hour to sit in a grotty office and annoy good people on the internet. Still, I suppose it’s better than running up and down a parade ground doing press-ups at each end, being barked at by a RSM, right?

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 2, 2021 11:11 PM
Reply to  Tony

I think I’ll call him Mongo Green.

Candygram for Mongo – YouTube

DomoebaMalingera
DomoebaMalingera
May 3, 2021 5:57 AM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

Mongo Preen

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 2, 2021 11:21 PM
Reply to  Tony

Sounds good, where can I apply?

Wraith
Wraith
May 3, 2021 6:37 AM
Reply to  Mango Green

You probably already did, but you got stumped by the first part of the application form.
NAME
Which troll name to use? You have so many.

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 3, 2021 11:40 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Are you as clever & witty as this in real life?

Tony
Tony
May 3, 2021 11:35 PM
Reply to  Mango Green

I’m even more clever and more witty. And, unlike you, I don’t do it for a living. Unlike you, I make my money from an honest job. As, I expect, does Wraith.

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 4, 2021 9:59 AM
Reply to  Tony

Can’t get irony with two accounts? Good morning America!

Ooink
Ooink
May 2, 2021 10:12 PM

Literal 20 foot wide 20 foot high electronic traffic sign in my Australian city I saw yesterday driving somewhere said: “Distracted? Expect police anywhere, anytime.” Creepy. Threatening. Weird.

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 2, 2021 10:31 PM
Reply to  Ooink

They should ask the politicians if they really want to live in a culture of fear and terror.

Dr. Sok
Dr. Sok
May 3, 2021 11:55 AM
Reply to  Mango Green

Having a 24/7 armed security detail insulates one from the common people. It also makes one feel superior I would imagine.

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 2, 2021 10:09 PM

“Florida (Right wing governor) Bans Big Tech Deplatforming, $250,000 daily fine if a political candidate is banned”

The far right are the new heroes fighting for free speech against their corporate CIA sponsors. Anyone see the obvious contradiction with that preposition?

Oh yes it sets the ‘left’ up as the tyrants and suppressors of free speech. Again the right wing fake left and republicans defining our heroes for us.

Thom1111
Thom1111
May 2, 2021 10:47 PM
Reply to  Mango Green

You are obviously not changing with the times. The true right is for more freedom and individual responsibility. And actually protecting liberty from government and corporate overreach. Lets stop whining and get on the side of sanity. You obviously won’t find that in the modern day Left.

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 3, 2021 11:44 AM
Reply to  Thom1111

The right are in the business of protecting Corporations from government & democratic control. That is what trump was deregulation in the name of freedom so you get screwed. You American have always cheered your own impoverishment which is why you have shit healthcare and no mandatory holidays.

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 2, 2021 11:10 PM
Reply to  Mango Green

“The WAR RACKETEER CORPORATE FASCIST OLIGARCH MOBSTER PSYCHOPATH CRIMINALS are the enemies of WE THE PEOPLE (HUMANITY). Any other political term or expression is intended to keep we the PROLE SLAVES at each others throats. Time for all honest Socialists in the spirit of Eugene Victor Debs to fight them, in the words of Malcolm X, by any means necessary.”
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https://www.tumblr.com/search/v+debs/photo

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 2, 2021 9:54 PM

You know nobody is on your side or the side of sanity; when Tucker Carson, the very embodiment of oligarchy and corporate abuse and exploitation, is the loudest voice in your camp. Are we really going to follow him and the alt-right down the road of more Corporate hell?

Nikkibop
Nikkibop
May 2, 2021 9:36 PM

I guess I already know the answer to the above question. Refusing to lockdown, wear a mask or be vaccinated I was immediately the Covid outlier. Family and friends refuse to talk to me any longer. I’ve been refused service, refused medical care, had the police called on me numerous times, been yelled at, publicly ridiculed…..but I still go maskless and wear my “Freedom from Fear” teeshirt (thanks JP). I wasn’t allowed to work for 9 months until I found these mesh masks that allow me to breathe and that’s the one place I finally gave in as I just couldn’t survive any longer without working. I’m in Oregon where our tyrannical Governor Brown just keeps the lockdowns going. Businesses here in the town I live are starting to resist and are staying open despite the latest lockdown that started last Friday. Though many know what’s actually going on, they don’t want to be yelled at so they just go along hoping it’ll all just stop. There’s also the whole “if you resist you obviously love Trump” so people are trying to avoid the whole political dance. I can’t stand either Trump or Biden, but I believe in our constitution and know we’re loosing our rights very quickly. All my life I’ve been the outlier refusing vaccines, feeding my dogs a raw diet, using real food and exercise to stay healthy so I’m used to the ridicule and laughter behind my back. When it comes to fighting for our freedom I’ll take the hits.

CryptoKazar
CryptoKazar
May 2, 2021 10:24 PM
Reply to  Nikkibop

Yelled at by who exactly here in the UK you get a lot of people wearing the muzzle (mainly out of fear of confrontation) but as a day one non mask wearer, Ive had all of two confrontations with simpletons demanding to know why I wasn’t wearing a mask and they were over 6 months ago. Everyone else I’ve spoken to out shopping ect ect have been very upbeat in tone towards me, as if it were a pleasure to communicate with an actual face.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 2, 2021 10:46 PM
Reply to  Nikkibop

I mocked my idiot younger sister and was called a holocaust denier. I am a former nurse, she is a former public servant.

Bob
Bob
May 2, 2021 9:31 PM

The government: “Please follow infection control guidelines set out by public health experts to prevent the spread of a dangerous respiratory virus.”
The Off-Guardian: “This is literally Nazi Germany.”

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 2, 2021 9:40 PM
Reply to  Bob

If our governments had followed the disease response programs, the medical establishment had defined following years of research and strategic thinking, then it would NOT be fascism, it would be science.
But what they are now subjecting us to is martial law and biological terror, it has nothing to do with science, none of it is logical, from the lock-downs, to the ‘miracle’ vaccines, we are in Narnia.

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 2, 2021 10:04 PM
Reply to  Mango Green

It is logicial if your the CCP trying to weaken the enemy before launching an invasion. these governments are traitors not our governments. there is nothing remotely european about them.

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 2, 2021 10:15 PM
Reply to  Peter Sky

The only country with a proven record of illegal invasion, torture, murder, instigating coups, genocides and starvation to further their own interests is the USA. As far as I know China has not invaded a country recently unprovoked for expansion or looting.

You also overlook the very US Corporate biased nature of the lock-downs, with their destruction of small businesses and the resulting shift to US on-line services.

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 3, 2021 12:17 AM
Reply to  Mango Green

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“To Hell With War!”

S Cooper
S Cooper
May 3, 2021 12:20 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

“Oops”
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“To Hell With War!”

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 3, 2021 1:02 AM
Reply to  Mango Green

Who do you think builds all this tech? These are chinese companies behind the facade. Amazon is a Chinese retailer.

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 3, 2021 11:47 AM
Reply to  Peter Sky

That’s what the CIA keep telling us.

Wraith
Wraith
May 3, 2021 2:34 AM
Reply to  Mango Green

So China didn’t invade Tibet? Or Vietnam in 1979, in retaliation for Vietnam attacking Cambodia which had a Chinese puppet government then?
Of course the British, Spanish, Dutch, Japanese, Germans, Israelis, Russians and Portuguese have certainly never done anything like that, or did they?

Pesky facts

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 3, 2021 11:50 AM
Reply to  Wraith

 China has not invaded a country recently unprovoked for expansion or looting.

Sk#ptk
Sk#ptk
May 2, 2021 10:06 PM
Reply to  Bob

There was never a “please” associated with this, you dirty, thoughtless zoomer. What was there and is now to enforce their guidelines is a decaffeinated police state. Are you for a police state, little one? Just a softer one, right? One that you can pretend that isn´t oppresive? Guess so.

Bob
Bob
May 3, 2021 10:06 AM
Reply to  Sk#ptk

When there’s a deadly infectious disease circulating in the population, I am in favour of some restrictions on civil liberties in order to prevent mass deaths. This is not exclusive to COVID-19: If you have HIV (and are not taking medication for it), you cannot give blood, and if you knowingly spread the virus to others you can be prosecuted.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 4, 2021 10:14 PM
Reply to  Bob

Hey, BoB. There is NO VIRUS – STILL NOT isolated anywhere in the world by Koch’s Postulates. The PCR test is fraudulent in that it is NOT designed for identifying ANY RNA virus, but for determining if RNA is present in the sample.
So go line up for your “Gene Therapy” shot, ad infinitum.
Don’t harm anyone else with fear based gas lighting.

Oh yeah! HIV was ALSO NEVER isolated by the same process…

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 2, 2021 10:28 PM
Reply to  Bob

Keep at it bob, I don’t agree with you at all but your contributions are welcome, in my view.

Wraith
Wraith
May 3, 2021 2:36 AM
Reply to  Mango Green

It’s always good to have a sock puppet friend to confide in isn’t it Sam?

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
May 3, 2021 7:55 AM
Reply to  Wraith

Sam?

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 3, 2021 11:51 AM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

sam?

CryptoKazar
CryptoKazar
May 2, 2021 10:43 PM
Reply to  Bob

Which “Public health EXPERTS” are these exactly because all I hear is the word of politicians and the corporate media Neither of which have anything whatsoever to do with medicine or science oh oh oh and Sage of course which is 95% staffed by behavioural psychologists. Which for some reason your beloved government put in charge ahead of ACTUAL “Public health experts” such as The 4 Nations Public Health HCID Group and the Advisory Committee On Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) Who’s ACTUAL job it was to look after the health of the British public, until they failed to come to the same conclusions as Your Beloved Government and they were replaced with The SAGE Behavioural Psychologists Team (propagandist) and a demonstrably and monstrously WRONG computer modeller from the Privately funded Imperial College London !

BOTH The 4 nations public health HCID group and the Advisory committee on dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) declared back in March 2020 that Covid19 was NOT a High Consequence Infectious Disease (HCID) a position they STILL hold today ! Citing the privately own and historically corrupt World Health Organisation as the reason for the Lockdown measures !

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid

swami
swami
May 3, 2021 12:43 PM
Reply to  CryptoKazar

Sage of course which is 95% staffed by behavioural psychologists. Which for some reason your beloved government put in charge ahead of ACTUAL “Public health experts

to much alt media pushing bullshit in to you and you thinking your slick and clever because you dont watch normal media.

Just to clarify ‘the government’ hired ‘sage’who advise the government and this information was provided original by who?? before it was normal media news and 2/ 3 months after Bs19 first come out
it was provided by U>K shillum LOL who are they???

Navel Intelligence and GCHQ told you the government is using psychologist to manipulate the people. ‘chew on that thought for a minute ‘ see how retarded that is.
because the people who vote are really intelligence or average u.k
citizen need psychologists to manipulate them it not the government it them.

the boogieman lone pasty gun man in this case called sage

CryptoKazar
CryptoKazar
May 3, 2021 8:23 PM
Reply to  swami

Right so lets get this straight you think you’re smart for trusting politicians and Billionaire media moguls, you think they give their employees free reign over their billion dollar investment do you ! and anybody who disagrees with them is a conspiracy theorist who thinks they are “slick and clever”

Furthermore and in complete contradiction to your idiotic and childish trust in politicians and mainstream media you think that the government is lying to everyone with the above link, yes that link if you’d bothered to click it, before launching into your witless counter conspiracy theory diatribe, is a UK GOVERNMENT LINK not an “alternative media” link since clicking links and scrolling down the page to the section entitled “Status of Covid-19” dated 19th March 2020 till present is clearly beyond your wit, please allow me to copy and paste the Exact text for you, Im assuming can read ? please forgive me if that isn’t the case 

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As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK. There are many diseases which can cause serious illness which are not classified as HCIDs.

The 4 nations public health HCID group made an interim recommendation in January 2020 to classify COVID-19 as an HCID. This was based on consideration of the UK HCID criteria about the virus and the disease with information available during the early stages of the outbreak. Now that more is known about COVID-19, the public health bodies in the UK have reviewed the most up to date information about COVID-19 against the UK HCID criteria. They have determined that several features have now changed; in particular, more information is available about mortality rates (low overall), and there is now greater clinical awareness and a specific and sensitive laboratory test, the availability of which continues to increase.

The Advisory Committee on Dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) is also of the opinion that COVID-19 should no longer be classified as an HCID.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) continues to consider COVID-19 as a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC), therefore the need to have a national, coordinated response remains

This wasn’t even the original text, it was altered by someone on the 19th of April 2021 to include The bit about “There are many diseases which can cause serious illness which are not classified as HCIDs.” And also the bit about the World Health Organisation were added to try and soften the impact of the 4 nations public health group and the ACDP joint statement which clearly states that covid-19 is not a serious public health concern, and consequently does not justify the MURDEROUS violation of the peoples rights and liberties, or any of the other measure they have put in place ! 

Notice how the two OFFICIAL advisory groups which have been sidelined by your beloved Government, disagree with the World Health Organisations evaluation, and have washed their hands of the Governments actions. But of course you don’t because you’re not very bright and you let corrupt politicians and billionaire media moguls, and the people they hire, take control of you mind body and soul and do all your thinking for you !   

Claret
Claret
May 3, 2021 12:49 PM
Reply to  CryptoKazar

‘BOTH The 4 nations public health HCID group and the Advisory committee on dangerous Pathogens (ACDP) declared back in March 2020 that Covid19 was NOT a High Consequence Infectious Disease (HCID) a position they STILL hold today ! Citing the privately own and historically corrupt World Health Organisation as the reason for the Lockdown measures !
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/high-consequence-infectious-diseases-hcid
….
Yes Crypto! That was absolutely one of the first red flags for me, along with those ridiculous reports of ‘people falling dead in the streets’, the lying by omission about the ICU crisis in Italy and the dodgy PCR tests. I remember that Fergusons’ pandemic computer model was presented to the UK government at around the same time (March 2020) and that the whole death certification/cause of death process was simplified. Then there was the first ‘lockdown’. Fuckin scandalous how they got away with it. It was like Doublethink 101. I still can’t get my head around it. Was it an arse-covering manoevre?

CryptoKazar
CryptoKazar
May 4, 2021 3:15 AM
Reply to  Claret

The first red flag for me was the media going on and on about a virus in Wuhan, I immediately thought it was a fake virus, firstly because Anything they obsess about is fake in one way or another, secondly because I’d already seen the fakery surrounding one of their scamdemic dry runs, namely the “Ebola virus” which I concluded at the time wasn’t a real virus, owing to the sub standard quality of said fakery. Then I saw an early interview with Professor Sucharit Bahkti which confirmed my line of thinking that they were simply rebranding the common cold (with regards to PCR tests) as this new “deadly virus”
I think its pretty clear they’ve been planning this scamdemic for a very very long time, its not a covering manoeuvre they could have done a covering manoeuvre which lasted just a few weeks, 12 months and counting and the economic damage and deaths that is reeking is most definitely not a covering manoeuvre. Its a “great reset” of the peoples money into their pockets and psychological conditioning to relinquish their rights under the perpetual threat of a science fiction virus. Its Agenda 2030 world government (communism 2.0) masquerading as a technocracy.

Claret
Claret
May 4, 2021 6:49 PM
Reply to  CryptoKazar

‘firstly because Anything they obsess about is fake in one way or another, secondly because I’d already seen the fakery surrounding one of their scamdemic dry runs, namely the “Ebola virus” which I concluded at the time wasn’t a real virus, owing to the sub standard quality of said fakery.
….
Absolutely – and Prof.Covid Ferguson was also involved in the Ebola baloney fearmongery as well.

DavidW
DavidW
May 3, 2021 1:45 AM
Reply to  Bob

Bob Troll – (Hair on fire): “Aaaaah run for your life a flu-like respiratory thingy will KILL US ALL !!! – Grab your masks, lock ‘er down and trail other humans like a sherpa – even though there’s NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE any of this crap works!!!”
Sane people: “There, there little troll. There there.”

BT: Thanks for providing me with the opportunity for my laugh of the day.

Bob
Bob
May 3, 2021 10:08 AM
Reply to  DavidW

There is evidence, but also just think using common sense: If a disease is airborne and spread by human to human contact, how is it possible that social distancing and mask wearing won’t work?

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 3, 2021 11:54 AM
Reply to  Bob

Because the air comes out somewhere it does not vanish. It comes out the sides not the front. The material does not filter viruses out. We are told these virus are very very small.

Bob
Bob
May 3, 2021 12:46 PM
Reply to  Mango Green

They attach to water droplets which are captured by the mask, but yes you’re right it does come out the sides, which is preferable than out the front, directed at the person you’re talking to.

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 4, 2021 10:02 AM
Reply to  Bob

 preferable? two sides? or one front.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 4, 2021 10:18 PM
Reply to  Bob

Because they don’t! There is nothing preventative against “viruses”, other than staying healthy and not passing symptoms onto someone else.
Especially for a virus that has not had its existence empirically proven.

Wombat
Wombat
May 3, 2021 2:59 AM
Reply to  Bob

The government: “Please follow infection control guidelines set out by public health experts to prevent the spread of a dangerous respiratory virus.”
The Off-Guardian: “This is literally Nazi Germany.”
Bob: Don’t think,just follow the orders.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 8:32 AM
Reply to  Wombat
Bob
Bob
May 3, 2021 10:11 AM
Reply to  Wombat

Do think! Absolutely do critical appraise everything, including the stuff the Off-Guardian puts out.
I saw a video on here of a nurse telling people not to get the vaccine because she developed a ‘Bells Palsy’ after taking it. But no one in the comments stopped to ask: “How do we know she’s a nurse? How do we know she’s taken the vaccine? If she has taken the vaccine, how do we know that the vaccine caused this?”
This is critical appraisal.

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 3, 2021 11:57 AM
Reply to  Bob

Indeed many on both sides of the argument are fake, but only one side has got it right; Unfortunately for us the devil, (the anti-covid far-right) have the truth on their side.

siamdave
siamdave
May 3, 2021 1:47 PM
Reply to  Mango Green

there’s a lot of pretty normal ‘average right’ people with the truth about covid on their side – really, pretty much anyone on ‘the left’ these days is some kind of anti-democratic zealot you wouldn’t want to associate with, the sane people have migrated to ‘the right’, which has now become the ‘of by and for the people’ party – aka ‘the left’ – we’re in the middle of a serious paradigm shift politically and socially, and things are going to be confusing for awhile, like we’re living in some kind of weird Escher drawing ..

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 3:10 PM
Reply to  siamdave

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Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 4, 2021 10:21 PM
Reply to  Mango Green

There is NO right and left.
Its “Up” and “Down”. Think HIERARCHY….
The HIERARCHY has manipulated many to believe the divide is on the horizontal.
Learn to “follow the money”.

Researcher
Researcher
May 3, 2021 5:43 PM
Reply to  Bob

Bob, have you been to the VAERS site? Have you read any of the adverse event cases? Have you? Do you understand what is in the injectable pathogen? Have you read the list on the CDC site of the 22 known direct effects, including death? Do you know how many cases of Bells Palsy have already been documented as a direct effect from the injectable pathogen?

Do you consciously choose to be ignorant or is a mental defect?

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 9:13 PM
Reply to  Researcher

consciously choosing to be ignorant IS the mental defect.

-CO
-CO
May 4, 2021 9:05 AM
Reply to  Bob

There are no epistemological guarantees to any form of knowledge Bob even scientific knowledge ultimately rests on an act of faith, belief agreement and acceptance.

Kate
Kate
May 3, 2021 9:16 AM
Reply to  Bob

The government: “Please follow infection control guidelines that we pulled out of our arse to prevent the spread of a non existent pathogen.”

Now then Bobby boy, what do you think is going to happen to you?

If you’re a dumbed down simpleton who can’t put 2 and 2 together, then you’re in for a devastatingly rude awakening very soon.

If you’re being paid for your posts then, 1) you are disgusting beyond words, and 2) a disposable liability once this agenda is more fully realized. Can’t run the risk of your loose lips sinking the HMS NWO can they?

Bob
Bob
May 3, 2021 10:13 AM
Reply to  Kate

The amount of evidence for COVID-19 existing is overwhelming. How people on here still spout stuff like “It doesn’t exists!” or “It’s never been isolated” amazes me.

Mango Green
Mango Green
May 3, 2021 12:00 PM
Reply to  Bob

The more time goes on it looks less and less like it actually exists. I think it is very obvious that the second wave was just a renaming of the common flu. OR flu kindly took a holiday to accommodate the new virus.

Elrin
Elrin
May 3, 2021 12:05 PM
Reply to  Bob

OK, so overwhelm us with some evidence please. Can’t say either opinion has me sold yet.

THX-1160
THX-1160
May 3, 2021 3:18 PM
Reply to  Bob

Scientific AmericanFlu Has Disappeared Worldwide during the COVID Pandemic

The public health measures that slow the spread of the novel coronavirus work really well on influenza

As Scientific American reported last fall, the drop-off in flu numbers was both swift and universal. Since then, cases have stayed remarkably low. “There’s just no flu circulating,” says Greg Poland, who has studied the disease at the Mayo Clinic for decades. The U.S. saw about 600 deaths from influenza during the 2020-2021 flu season. In comparison, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimated there were roughly 22,000 deaths in the prior season and 34,000 two seasons ago.

Researcher
Researcher
May 3, 2021 10:50 PM
Reply to  Bob

We read the virology papers and journals and you don’t.

We know that you cannot isolate a particle by adding foreign matter including poisons.

We know that isolation is not addition.

We know virologists cannot decide whether a virus is alive or dead.

We know that a virus does not have a Krebs cycle.

We know that a virus has no motile function.

We know that a virus can’t replicate because it’s a construct.

We know that virologists cannot explain the evolutionary origin of viruses.

We know that virologists now claim that a virus cannot be separated from an exosome.

We know that virologists contradict themselves constantly.

We know that the genome sequencing of viruses is computer generated and theoretical.

We know that tests for viruses are tests for nucleic acid sequences already present in our cells.

We know that antibodies are non specific and unrelated to viruses.

We know what they are finding in their experiments is intracellular.

We know there are no exogenous invaders.

We know the difference between the scientific method and pseudo science.

We know how to isolate particles from a cell culture.

We know that every molecule in existence can be isolated and chemically characterized.

We know they are lying and obfuscating with their terminology, methods and results.

We have done enough research to see where and how the fraud is committed.

We understand the body and its detoxification process.

We know that germ theory is false and Pasteur faked his experiments.

We know contagion has never been shown or proven in any experiment.

We know there are other causes to diseases that are not viral or bacterial.

We know how to cure and prevent those diseases with vitamins and supplements.

We understand the failure of allopathic medicine.

We know the difference between an experiment with and without controls.

We have researched the history of vaccines and viruses and disease.

If you had done the work we have, you might understand a little of what we know. But it does require a modicum of intelligence, an open mind, an ability to retrain your mind from years of false subliminal messages and a desire to seek the truth no matter where it leads.

It requires rational thinking without being wedded to one belief or theory.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
May 4, 2021 10:29 PM
Reply to  Bob

One needs intelligence, not obedience.

Maxwell
Maxwell
May 2, 2021 9:27 PM

More people here in the US are waking up to the fact that Covid™ is not an epidemiological event it is a business model, a manufactured event meant to increase the portfolio’s of the super wealthy.

“Here I have secret contracts that were signed in Germany between GlaxoSmithKline and the German state. As a simple Member of Parliament, officially I am not allowed to view these contracts. They were posted on the Internet by whistle blowers in Germany.

These contracts specify exactly what needs to happen when phase 6 is announced: what amounts of vaccine doses the states have to buy, etc.. Such contracts were concluded by most states before the criteria have been changed.”

-Andrej Hunko, German MP in a speech at the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe on 24.06.2010- in reference to 2009 Swine flu swindle.

It is vitally important to understand that public health policy has been harnessed to global markets. Instead of serving those at risk of sickness and death, these policies of financialization are constructed to benefit investors.

Manufactured pandemics create new investment products that increase the holdings of billionaires and further concentrate their wealth.

The WHO, CDC, NHS etc are merely conduits for these investors who channel their investments through the likes of the Gates Foundations e.g. The return on these investments is staggering.

This is not going away unless and until we make it go away. All of the politicians that are “deciding” these things are spokespeople for these investors.

Global public health (and education) has become a plaything of financiers.

There was no epidemiological event. There was a severe 6 week spike caused by human actions- specifically health agencies (you can hardly call them that) and specific politicians who through policies took the elderly and other vulnerable folk and locked them into understaffed and/or partly abandoned and poorly ventilated nursing homes guaranteeing mass death in a concentrated time frame. Those were/are crimes and should be investigated and prosecuted as such.

The majority (probably all) of the elderly people weren’t even dying of the virus but it’s being chalked off as a “Covid” death to keep the Covid death count high, the fear mongering going and the $$$ coming in. These are old people with a wide variety of multiple serious medical conditions. They’re are on multiple toxic medical drugs that cause serious adverse reactions. Many were in and out of the ER & urgent care departments well before the arrival of this “new” (manufactured) virus. They were dying from pneumonia, COPD, cancers, cardiovascular diseases, adverse reactions to toxic medical drugs, etc. and some number of them died from complications of being put on a ventilator and other assorted iatrogenic deaths.

There was no pandemic except in the fevered and greedy imaginations of the global financiers (who are struggling to find new markets for their Ponzi schemes), their media parrots and their political apparatchiks.