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COVID Vaccines: Necessity, Efficacy and Safety

Doctors for Covid Ethics
This paper was originally hosted on the Doctors for Covid Ethics Medium account, but the platform censored the expert group and removed the paper, claiming the post was “under investigation”:
An archived version is still available here.

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Abstract: COVID-19 vaccine manufacturers have been exempted from legal liability for vaccine-induced harm. It is therefore in the interests of all those authorising, enforcing and administering COVID-19 vaccinations to understand the evidence regarding the risks and benefits of these vaccines, since liability for harm will fall on them.

In short, the available evidence and science indicate that COVID-19 vaccines are unnecessary, ineffective and unsafe.

  • Necessity: Immunocompetent individuals are protected against SARS-CoV-2 by cellular immunity. Vaccinating low-risk groups is therefore unnecessary. For immunocompromised individuals who do fall ill with COVID-19 there is a range of medical treatments that have been proven safe and effective. Vaccinating the vulnerable is therefore equally unnecessary. Both immunocompetent and vulnerable groups are better protected against variants of SARS-CoV-2 by naturally acquired immunity and by medication than by vaccination.
  • Efficacy: Covid-19 vaccines lack a viable mechanism of action against SARS-CoV-2 infection of the airways. Induction of antibodies cannot prevent infection by an agent such as SARS-CoV-2 that invades through the respiratory tract. Moreover, none of the vaccine trials have provided any evidence that vaccination prevents transmission of the infection by vaccinated individuals; urging vaccination to “protect others” therefore has no basis in fact.
  • Safety: The vaccines are dangerous to both healthy individuals and those with pre-existing chronic disease, for reasons such as the following: risk of lethal and non-lethal disruptions of blood clotting including bleeding disorders, thrombosis in the brain, stroke and heart attack; autoimmune and allergic reactions; antibody-dependent enhancement of disease; and vaccine impurities due to rushed manufacturing and unregulated production standards.

The risk-benefit calculus is therefore clear: the experimental vaccines are needless, ineffective and dangerous. Actors authorising, coercing or administering experimental COVID-19 vaccination are exposing populations and patients to serious, unnecessary, and unjustified medical risks.

1. The vaccines are unnecessary

1. Multiple lines of research indicate that immunocompetent people display “robust” and lasting cellular (T cell) immunity to SARS-CoV viruses [1], including SARS-CoV-2 and its variants [2]. T cell protection stems not only from exposure to SARS-CoV-2 itself, but from cross-reactive immunity following previous exposure to common cold and SARS coronaviruses [1,3-10]. Such immunity was detectable after infections up to 17 years prior [1,3]. Therefore, immunocompetent people do not need vaccination against SARS-Cov-2.

2. Natural T-Cell immunity provides stronger and more comprehensive protection against all SARS-CoV-2 strains than vaccines, because naturally primed immunity recognises multiple virus epitopes and costimulatory signals, not merely a single (spike) protein. Thus, immunocompetent people are better protected against SARS-CoV-2 and any variants that may arise by their own immunity than by the current crop of vaccines.

3.The vaccines have been touted as a means to prevent asymptomatic infection [11], and by extension “asymptomatic transmission.” However, “asymptomatic transmission” is an artefact of invalid and unreliable PCR test procedures and interpretations, leading to high false-positive rates[12-15]. Evidence indicates that PCR-positive, asymptomatic people are healthy false-positives, not carriers. A comprehensive study of 9,899,828 people in China found that asymptomatic individuals testing positive for COVID-19 never infected others[16].

In contrast, the papers cited by the Centre for Disease Control[17,18] to justify claims of asymptomatic transmission are based on hypothetical models, not empirical studies; they present assumptions and estimates rather than evidence. Preventing asymptomatic infection is not a viable rationale for promoting vaccination of the general population.

4. In most countries, most people now have immunity to SARS-CoV-2[19]. Depending on their degree of previously acquired cross-immunity, they will have had no symptoms, mild and uncharacteristic symptoms, or more severe symptoms, possibly including anosmia (loss of sense of smell) or other somewhat characteristic signs of the COVID-19 disease. Regardless of disease severity, they will now have sufficient immunity to be protected from severe disease in the event of renewed exposure. This majority of the population will not benefit at all from being vaccinated.

5. Population survival of COVID-19 exceeds 99.8% globally[20-22]. In countries that have been intensely infected over several months, less than 0.2% of the population have died and had their deaths classified as ‘with covid19’. COVID-19 is also typically a mild to moderately severe illness. Therefore, the overwhelming majority of people are not at risk from COVID-19 and do not require vaccination for their own protection.

6. In those susceptible to severe infection, Covid-19 is a treatable illness. A convergence of evidence indicates that early treatment with existing drugs reduces hospitalisation and mortality by ~85% and 75%, respectively[23-27]. These drugs include many tried and true anti-inflammatory, antiviral, and anticoagulant medications, as well as monoclonal antibodies, zinc, and vitamins C and D.

Industry and government decisions to sideline such proven treatments through selective research support[24], regulatory bias, and even outright sanctions against doctors daring to use such treatments on their own initiative, have been out of step with existing laws, standard medical practice, and research; the legal requirement to consider real world evidence has fallen by the wayside[28].

The systematic denial and denigration of these effective therapies has underpinned the spurious justification for the emergency use authorisation of the vaccines, which requires that “no standard acceptable treatment is available”[29]. Plainly stated, vaccines are not necessary to prevent severe disease.

2. The vaccines lack efficacy

1. At a mechanistic level, the concept of immunity to COVID-19 via antibody induction, as per COVID-19 vaccination, is medical nonsense. Airborne viruses such as SARS-CoV-2 enter the body via the airways and lungs, where antibody concentrations are too low to prevent infection. Vaccine-induced antibodies primarily circulate in the bloodstream, while concentrations on the mucous membranes of lungs and airways is low.

Given that COVID-19 primarily spreads and causes disease by infecting these mucous membranes, vaccines miss the immunological mark. The documents submitted by the vaccine manufacturers to the various regulatory bodies contain no evidence that vaccination prevents airway infection, which would be crucial for breaking the chain of transmission. Thus, vaccines are immunologically inappropriate for COVID-19.

2. Medium to long-term vaccine efficacy is unknown. Phase 3, medium-term, 24-month trials will not be complete until 2023: There is no medium-term or long term longitudinal data regarding COVID-19 vaccine efficacy.

3. Short term data has not established prevention of severe disease. The European Medicines Agency has noted of the Comirnaty (Pfizer mRNA) vaccine that severe COVID-19 cases “were rare in the study, and statistically certain conclusion cannot be drawn” from it[30]. Similarly, the Pfizer document submitted to the FDA[31] concludes that efficacy against mortality could not be demonstrated. Thus, the vaccines have not been shown to prevent death or severe disease even in the short term.

4. The correlates of protection against COVID-19 are unknown. Researchers have not yet established how to measure protection against COVID-19. As a result, efficacy studies are stabbing around in the dark. After completion of Phase 1 and 2 studies, for instance, a paper in the journal Vaccine noted that “without understanding the correlates of protection, it is impossible to currently address questions regarding vaccine-associated protection, risk of COVID-19 reinfection, herd immunity, and the possibility of elimination of SARS-CoV-2 from the human population”[32]. Thus, Vaccine efficacy cannot be evaluated because we have not yet established how to measure it.

3. The vaccines are dangerous

1. Just as smoking could be and was predicted to cause lung cancer based on first principles, all gene-based vaccines can be expected to cause blood clotting and bleeding disorders [33], based on their molecular mechanisms of action. Consistent with this, diseases of this kind have been observed across age groups, leading to temporary vaccine suspensions around the world: The vaccines are not safe.

2. Contrary to claims that blood disorders post-vaccination are “rare”, many common vaccine side effects (headaches, nausea, vomiting and haematoma-like “rashes” over the body) may indicate thrombosis and other severe abnormalities. Moreover, vaccine-induced diffuse micro-thromboses in the lungs can mimic pneumonia and may be misdiagnosed as COVID-19. Clotting events currently receiving media attention are likely just the “tip of a huge iceberg”[34]: The vaccines are not safe.

3. Due to immunological priming, risks of clotting, bleeding and other adverse events can be expected to increase with each re-vaccination and each intervening coronavirus exposure. Over time, whether months or years[35], this renders both vaccination and coronaviruses dangerous to young and healthy age groups, for whom without vaccination COVID-19 poses no substantive risk. Since vaccine roll-out, COVID-19 incidence has risen in numerous areas with high vaccination rates[36-38].

Furthermore, multiple series of COVID-19 fatalities have occurred shortly after the onset vaccinations in senior homes[39,40]. These cases may have been due not only to antibody-dependent enhancement but also to a general immunosuppressive effect of the vaccines, which is suggested by the increased occurrence of Herpes zoster in certain patients[41].

Immunosuppression may have caused a previously asymptomatic infection to become clinically manifest. Regardless of the exact mechanism responsible for these reported deaths, we must expect that the vaccines will increase rather than decrease lethality of COVID-19 — the vaccines are not safe.

4. The vaccines are experimental by definition. They will remain in Phase 3 trials until 2023. Recipients are human subjects entitled to free informed consent under Nuremberg and other protections, including the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe’s resolution 2361[43] and the FDA’s terms of emergency use authorisation[29]. With respect to safety data from Phase 1 and 2 trials, in spite of initially large sample sizes the journal Vaccine reports that, “the vaccination strategy chosen for further development may have only been given to as few as 12 participants”[32].

With such extremely small sample sizes, the journal notes that, “larger Phase 3 studies conducted over longer periods of time will be necessary” to establish safety. The risks that remain to be evaluated in Phase 3 trials into 2023, with entire populations as subjects, include not only thrombosis and bleeding abnormalities, but other autoimmune responses, allergic reactions, unknown tropisms (tissue destinations) of lipid nanoparticles[35], antibody-dependent enhancement [43-46] and the impact of rushed, questionably executed, poorly regulated[47] and reportedly inconsistent manufacturing methods, conferring risks of potentially harmful impurities such as uncontrolled DNA residues[48]. The vaccines are not safe, either for recipients or for those who administer them or authorise their use.

5. Initial experience might suggest that the adenovirus-derived vaccines (AstraZeneca/Johnson & Johnson) cause graver adverse effects than the mRNA (Pfizer/Moderna) vaccines. However, upon repeated injection, the former will soon induce antibodies against the proteins of the adenovirus vector. These antibodies will then neutralize most of the vaccine virus particles and cause their disposal before they can infect any cells, thereby limiting the intensity of tissue damage.

In contrast, in the mRNA vaccines, there is no protein antigen for the antibodies to recognize. Thus, regardless of the existing degree of immunity, the vaccine mRNA is going to reach its target — the body cells. These will then express the spike protein and subsequently suffer the full onslaught of the immune system.

With the mRNA vaccines, the risk of severe adverse events is virtually guaranteed to increase with every successive injection. In the long term, they are therefore even more dangerous than the vector vaccines. Their apparent preferment over the latter is concerning in the highest degree; these vaccines are not safe.

4. Ethics and legal points to consider

Conflicts of interest abound in the scientific literature and within organisations that recommend and promote vaccines, while demonising alternate strategies (reliance on natural immunity and early treatment). Authorities, doctors and medical personnel need to protect themselves by evaluating the sources of their information for conflicts of interest extremely closely.

Authorities, doctors and medical personnel need to be similarly careful not to ignore the credible and independent literature on vaccine necessity, safety and efficacy, given the foreseeable mass deaths and harms that must be expected unless the vaccination campaign is stopped.

Vaccine manufacturers have exempted themselves from legal liability for adverse events for a reason. When vaccine deaths and harms occur, liability will fall to those responsible for the vaccines’ authorisation, administration and/or coercion via vaccine passports, none of which can be justified on a sober, evidence-based risk-benefit analysis.

All political, regulatory and medical actors involved in COVID-19 vaccination should familiarise themselves with the Nuremberg code and other legal provisions in order to protect themselves.

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Maciek
Maciek
Jun 4, 2021 4:29 PM

Beautiful article. Thank you.
My brother is saying it’s just the beginning. It will be much worse. All planned long time ago by ridiculously wealth elites.

PS. Would love to see that article in Polish. Anyone, anything?

Terry Silk
Terry Silk
May 10, 2021 2:34 PM

Remember the benevolent governments are not spending their own money or the money of the companies most benefitting from the measures being taken, but are spending money paid in taxes by us the electorate. So where are the accountants when you need them?

-CO
-CO
May 10, 2021 2:59 PM
Reply to  Terry Silk

Maybe genuine fearless accountants need to team up with genuine fearless lawyers (if there are any) and solve the problems arising from “the measures being taken” – and taken without the consent of the electorate wrt that issue!

-CO
-CO
May 8, 2021 8:06 PM

The article states that “vaccine manufacturers have exempted themselves from legal liability for adverse events for a reason” The reason being that liability will fall to “those responsible for the vaccines’ authorisation, administration and/or coercion via vaccine Passports, none of which can be justified on a sober, evidence -based risk-benefit analysis.”

However, The term ‘legal’ is not lawful unless there is consent.

The vaccine manufacturers can be held criminally liable under the common law of conspiracy to defraud along with the conspirators who contracted with the vaccine manufacturers on the grounds that:

1. there never was a SARS-COV -2 VIRUS proven by science to physically exist to warrant the production of a Covid-19 Vaccine for a pandemic never proven to be caused by the aforesaid alleged ‘virus’. (Which is fraud by misrepresentation).

2.Failing to disclose the information.

3. Fraudulent trading I.e.possession and supply materials for use in fraud.

The prosecuting authorities might want to consider this brief description in the light of the Fraud Act 2006. There are other offences to consider in addition regarding the fraudulent use of PCR tests.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 4:35 PM
Reply to  -CO

It is all a tissue of fraud from start to finish, or rather to the present hour, and counting.

That is indeed WHY a global health crisis scenario was developed as the Trojan Horse of choice, since it permits of the deflection and dissipation of blame, culpability, and compensation to victims, within governments, so broad and fragmented as that might be.

The DoD approached M. Scott Peck about a half century ago and asked him to make, as head of a USArmy/government panel, a report on the horrific My Lai Massacre (which only came to light because two soldiers involved refused to participate actively) in Vietnam. After much investigation, he gave him his findings, which they then rejected.

The analysis forms the penultimate chapter of his fascinating book, “PEOPLE OF THE LIE: The Hopes for Healing Human Evil”, and headed as “The My Lai Massacre: an Analysis of Group Evil”.

In sum, he said that all of it tracked to a fairly simple explanation: a “fragmentation of conscience” in a broad loop from the highest levels of government down to the boots in the killing fields.

When the CIA in cahoots with corporations do all they can in their vast power to shrink that loop into a short circuit of our societies, by their transgenerational blitzkrieg of Mystery Shoppers, small wonder we have an embarrassment of vaccines, eh?

-CO
-CO
May 9, 2021 7:05 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Absolutely John! The extent of the fraud and corruption involved in engineering this quiet war that’s been forced upon us by fraudulent and deceptive means, beggars all imagination.

The damage to physical and mental health that’s already been inflicted on people around the world through the silent weapons deployed aka experimental toxic vaccines, mask-wearing, social-distancing and unnecessary lock-downs is incalculable.

All this in the name of perhaps the biggest scam in modern history wrt protecting the health and wellbeing of the general population. When, in reality it was designed by the fraudsters to achieve the absolute OPPOSITE!

You may know it has been reported that there is about to be a court case in Canada in the Ontario Supreme Court charging Justin Trudeau , the Pope, the Queen, the UN , the vaccine cartel, Premier Douglas Ford, etc with crimes against humanity. Since the case will not be in a Common Law jurisdiction I’m skeptical of a positive outcome if the report is correct (Rense.com).

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 7:49 PM
Reply to  -CO

I see it as burglars (a www of bankers in collusion with big pharma drug kings) breaking and entering noiselessly our “shelters in place” to smother the owners (us) with a global pandemic pillow. That’s a variation on an old Nazi/fascist nocturnal stunt.

£4£&$4$…

I come across several accounts that say that’s what Gehlen/Skorzeny did to Nick Tesla, alone in his room 3327 of Hotel New Yorker, 1.6.43…

It sure is their M.O. And also the Freemasons.

I wasn’t there, but a lot points that way.

It is largely what they are doing to us!?

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 7:55 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

And the next day Tesla was found dead in dress clothes on his made bed, with his safe open and empty.

The FBI seized the remaining affects, Tesla’s (remaining) papers etc. And gave them to Dr. John G. Trump, electrical inventor prof at MIT. He was at that time custodian of OAP, Office of Alien Properties.

And, future uncle to Donald Trump.

-CO
-CO
May 10, 2021 12:10 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Maybe one day the people may see true justice being served as the perpetrators of the scam are eventually brought to justice in a Common Law Court.

But as I’ve stated many times that will not happen without full support of the people and an effectively organized movement toward that end.

You can imagine what’s in store for us all if nothings done. Nikola Tesla would be turning in his grave at the thought of what’s been going on.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 10, 2021 3:55 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

I simply do not understand why morons are still believing this crap fake pandemic in light of nothing much happening.

J Jones
J Jones
May 8, 2021 4:13 PM

Thank you for this. Had GPs not gone AWOL they could have shared such information and ‘informed consent’ need not have been discarded. Lord Falconer was right. For the lawyers a least, COVID will be the gift that keeps on giving.

-CO
-CO
May 8, 2021 7:13 PM
Reply to  J Jones

The majority of GP’s have not just gone AWOL they have already collaborated with the perpetrators of the scamdemic in promoting and administering Big Pharma’s toxic experimental vaccines.

Andre
Andre
May 8, 2021 2:21 PM

Excellent article, which clearly summarizes the major, essential components!
Thanks to the authors and the publishers here.

Stupid1
Stupid1
May 8, 2021 9:10 AM

SARS-CoV-2 have never been isolated, purified, biochemically characterized and/or sequenced entirely.
This whole pandemic is virtual, computer generated, even the mRNA vaccines are made on computers from computer generated genomes.
None of this is real, just forget about it.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 8, 2021 4:09 AM

It’s truly astonishing what a web of complete BS can be woven around a complete zero.

https://off-guardian.org/tag/torsten-engelbrecht/
http://www.drug-dissolution-testing.com

The science says:

— the alleged “novel” coronavirus, SARS-CoV-2, has not been isolated

— no pathogen, the alleged virus or any other pathogen, is the cause of the alleged illness, COVID-19, which does not have a distinctive set of symptoms

— there is no gold standard test for the alleged viral illness

— the PCR test is not fit for the purpose of detecting viral infection for a variety of reasons, one being it cannot detect viral load

— the only way put forward to detect COVID-19 is through the test that is not fit for purpose

— people are getting sick and dying from whatever they were getting sick and dying from before the advent of COVID-19 and through the advent of COVID-19 they are still getting sick and dying from whatever they were getting sick and dying from before the advent of COVID-19 (other than where interventions have compromised their health) and they will continue to get sick and die from whatever they were getting sick and dying from before the advent of COVID-19 when testing stops (other than what they may suffer from vaccination assuming it continues after testing stops, assuming it does)

If there is no “novel” virus, ipso facto, there is no requirement for a vaccine regardless of efficacy or side effects.

It is so utterly simple, it is the Emperor’s New Clothes writ as large as can be and yet the amount of BS generated by absolutely nothing really does knock you over. Who are we as a species? How do our brains operate that allow such a phenomenon? How do we not learn from the past, how do we not recognise that the Emperor’s New Clothes is a real phenomenon that the power elite play out over and over.

dr death
dr death
May 8, 2021 1:20 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

look into ‘mousetopia’ if you already haven’t, this will explicate for you the bald state of the naked apes circumstances…

in his never ending quest for ‘utopian’ nonsense and ‘freedumbs’ ably guided and facilitated by his ancient enemies……

euro-man has slit his own imbecilic throat..

of course the intelligent have been pointing towards this denouement for nearly two centuries.. the herd will now find out the hard way that ‘natural law’ isn’t a fluffy little ‘mouse’ and no one really gives a damn what current force fed nonsensical ideologies they are consuming…

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 8, 2021 2:31 PM
Reply to  dr death

What a fascinating experiment. Apparently, John Calhoun continued experimenting and later experiments proved more successful when he introduced creativity.

I_left_the_left
I_left_the_left
May 8, 2021 2:44 AM

Bravo, OG

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
May 7, 2021 11:58 PM

Neither of us ever had Diplomatic Immunity. Neither of us have Worked for These Evil People currently in Control. We were just going on holiday. I am not making any of this up.

I just Say what I think. I try to be nice most of the time, but have occassionally found myself in a Sticky Patch, with people being potentially very aggressive to me. My wife is much more Diplomatic than me, and Smiles and Apologises, depending on the circumstances…

Sometimes she can be quite Firey and POLITE especially to the British Police

Why have You Arrested My Husband?

So they let me go. I hadn’t done anything wrong. I wasn’t even mouthy. They just decided to pick on me, cos they thought I was an old man alone.

I also soon had about 20 friends stood around during the interrogation which helped a lot.

Tony

October
October
May 7, 2021 10:08 PM

Looks like VAERS is now a source of misinformation: https://twitter.com/PolitiFact/status/1389235532467736577

dr death
dr death
May 8, 2021 1:28 PM
Reply to  October

VAERS is fake news….

obviously…..

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
May 7, 2021 7:56 PM

I think most people who grew up in Lancashire are still much the same as us…

When we moved to London 40 years ago…We were both working hard, and I almost always did what she said…She said it will be O.K.

They told me at work, not to go there, and this carried on for most of the last 40 years until COVID…

We weren’t interested in the politcics of the Governments, and knew nothing about them…

We have even had People Born in India, telling us not to go to go to India, cos its not safe cos some bomb had gone off…the same in Egypt and loads of very obscure places in The World…

We have never had any serious problems, except when she lost her Boarding Pass, after having to show it so many times, that it was completely ridiculous.

Fortunately we were with our kids, who were already on the plane…Giggling

So we get to the final checkpoint, before walking to the aircraft, and I said to her “look small”, and hide behind me…

So we got on the plane, and they wanted to see her Boarding Ticket…She said its in my bag somewhere – they said O.K. – go and sit with your kids. Gave her a bit of a hard time mid flight, and asked to see it (but they understood everything)

Good British Flight Crew.

We would have been in big trouble, if we were trying to fly back from The USA.

Tony

Brian Sides
Brian Sides
May 7, 2021 7:53 PM

Hello
I have been away from off-guardian for a while dealing with real world problems.
As I return I see off-guardian is still concentrating on covid.
I came across this http://mileswmathis.com/covid8.pdf
18 Reasons I Won’t Be Getting a Covid Vaccine
Quite good but I think like all the discussions about vaccine safety it misses some logic.
Cause and effect. If the claimed cause is true where is the effect. Some will say the effect is massively under reported or the effect is delayed and we shall reap what we sow later. But if the cause is as bad as claimed the effect should be so obvious it could not be hidden. This leaves one of two conclusions the cause (dangerous vaccine) is not as bad as claimed , or they are not administering the vaccine. I do not think they are administering the vaccine or not most of the time.
A placebo does the job much better. How better to treat a fake virus than with a fake vaccine.
Covid or the excuse of covid and its little brothers is the current method of control.
But Covid is a side show to climate change. Zero covid like zero carbon or . Zero money , Zero possessions, Zero identity. Zero freedom but plenty of free dumb.

happy camper
happy camper
May 9, 2021 7:32 PM
Reply to  Brian Sides

Why do you assume it is not the former?

The latter would require far too many “insiders” into the scam and make the entire thing implausible.

Dreamflower0987
Dreamflower0987
May 7, 2021 6:52 PM

Off guardian. If it is possible could you maybe state the names and credentials of the authors of this study because it would add more reliability for the people who may be sceptical still about this being from actual doctors.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 7, 2021 7:34 PM

There is a link to the group’s website where all the doctors are identified.

NickM
NickM
May 8, 2021 2:00 PM

Dream on, little Flower troll. You cannot sow suspicion here: OffG is a site for adults.

suddyan
suddyan
May 8, 2021 3:35 PM
Reply to  NickM

[OffG is a site for adults.]

That sounds great.

[Dream on, little Flower troll.]

Now that is what I call an ADULT response to a commenter who may have asked an earnest question.

It feels so nice to be communicating with adults.

Arcabuz
Arcabuz
May 7, 2021 6:46 PM

This article has been one of the most commented. 815 comments. Most of us commenters repeat three times. Let’s put 300 people. Of course we will have to have a lot of quality because what is the size compared to the new covid religion is to burst into tears. Good luck and for the quantity.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 7, 2021 7:36 PM
Reply to  Arcabuz

The article has been read many thousands of times already. Only a tiny percentage of our visitors comment.

Chevrus
Chevrus
May 10, 2021 3:20 PM

Come for the article, STAY for the comments!!

gordan
gordan
May 7, 2021 6:18 PM

it should be noted that crazy covid coverage but zero 5g

the worms parasite and nano tech in your body loves 5g
5g powers the replication
triggers yeasts fungus bacteria works in synergy with your fizzy drinks
fast food pizza lifestyles
5g phased array 24 and 7
who needs forced vaccination when your slow cookin in the goy grid

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
May 7, 2021 6:09 PM

COVID did my head in 18 months ago – just before Christmas 2019, when hardly anyone else had ever heard of it. I thought I had it. I certainly had a Mild Cold, it was most certainly not as bad as The Flu, but I had an ear infection, that I could not get rid of with traditional remedies, like olive oil. I not only went almost completely deaf, in my best ear – my right, but it also affected my self confidence, and my balance. I could still get to the pub to see a band, but had to hold my wife’s hand crossing the road, and could only hear in mono.

Then everyone knew about it, and I claimed I was fine, because I was terrified at the prospect of seeing my Doctor, or being admitted to hospital with COVID.

I eventually cleared my ear problem with ear drops from the supermarket containing hydrogen peroxide and urea. I could now hear again in stereo, but then almost Everyone went COVID mad.

I gradually regained my confidence walking, but got very little sunshine, like one tenth of what is normal for me..So my Vitamin D got depleted, and I did get really ill in January 2021. It wasn’t Sepsis, but it almost certainly would have been if I hadn’t gone to A&E, to be shot through with antibiotics. I was very ill for 6 weeks at home.

I’m a lot better now, but still need to get a lot fitter. My wife was impressed with me today walking miles, and I was impressed with her hairdresser.

Tony

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
May 7, 2021 5:57 PM

Any people who have always been independent thinkers – especially if you have been outspoken – have you experienced isolation? Have you been ostracised not once or twice but almost always.

My 2c is that people always try to expel outliers and that tribalism is much more important than we like to admit: it is the rule rather than the exception.

All of Event Covid behaviour adds up if you see people mainly as tribal. So does the appeal of Antifa and BLM and the sectarianism underlying critical theory. As does the sudden enthusiasm for totalitarian regimes.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 7, 2021 6:12 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I’m too busy waiting for my spam to answer your questions.

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 7:27 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Perhaps there is indeed something oxymoronic about a sanctioned mode of “criticism”. Or at the very least, such a concept is clearly open to abuse – and indeed ironically from the established system itself i.e. as soon as any critical strategy becomes formalised, the powers that be will latch on to it and use it to their advantage.

The Frankfurt School had funding from the CIA. So, as one Right-ish critic put it once (and as I rejected at the time), Adorno is the perfect example of a “Marxist Mama’s boy” (though to be fair I don’t think he knew shit about Marx and just picked up the lingo).

I also recall reading that, for all his later anguished meditation on Auschwitz, Adorno initially planned to stay in Germany because he felt assured that he – the son of a wealthy wine merchant – would be left alone.  

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 8, 2021 11:12 AM
Reply to  George Mc

He didn’t need to read Marx. It is just a lingo. Like fascism or any ism has it’s language of deceptive bullshit.

dr death
dr death
May 8, 2021 2:02 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

‘groucho’ obviously was the eminent philosopher, karl merely a jaded hack and failed swinburnian poet…

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 8:04 PM
Reply to  dr death

Shopworn.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 8:03 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

I find it a language, yes, but 1 acting as a very well-ground lens through which to accurately read most socioeconomics and politics.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 10, 2021 9:02 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Very well ground indeed! There are millions who have been ground up by that expertly crafted creed of covert malice. I prefer to look through my own eyes not some masonic microscope that sees only the dead world of materialism.

Jacques
Jacques
May 7, 2021 7:41 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

If you wanna fit in, you gotta howl with the wolves. And don’t rock the boat too much or they’ll toss you to the sharks.
 
The world can be a lonely place if you’re truly yourself, if you truly live your life the way you see fit, as opposed to what some wannabe dictator, camouflaged as a democratic politician, scripts for you based on instructions from some cocksuckers behind the scenes. But if you truly are yourself, you probably don’t give a flying fuck. You’ve figured it out and tread down your own path. Like Vincent van Gogh, for example.
 
There are ways to be yourself without turning against you the sheeple or people who don’t quite have the guts to be lions, grizzlies, or lonely wolves. First, don’t be an asshole and don’t rub their lack of balls in their face. Be cool. It’s worked out for me – when I was a boy, I never had to study and always got A’s, but nobody thought of me as a nerd. I’d be raising hell, correcting the teachers to everybody’s delight, and, most of all, I devised a signaling system and always showed the correct results or spelling to the whole class during tests. Stuff like that can get you through life.
 
 

May Hem
May Hem
May 7, 2021 11:04 PM
Reply to  Jacques

There is a positive side. Yes, its sad to lose old friends as most of us already know. But we are forming new ‘tribes’ of more aware people as we link up with other covid-questioners.

One of the main aims of lockdowns is to keep us separate and disempowered. I have found my local Sunday morning meetings with new friends at “A Stand in the Park” really inspiring. Of course, this initiative will be infiltrated and suffer the usual attempts to de-rail. Try to get to a stand in the park if you can before this happens. We need to meet allies and those of like minds. We can make new ‘tribes’ on a local level. If the 4th industrial revolution goes ahead, we’ll be restricted to local areas anyway. We can make use of this time now.

https://linktr.ee/ASITP
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/uQ16PIRYunYU/

dr death
dr death
May 8, 2021 1:54 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

you are confusing ‘outliers’ because you live through the looking glass, outliers are now in control of the farm and writing and enacting policy, forcing compliance through draconian legalisms, these mendicants in more sensible times were garotted and thrown in a bog for the safety of the ‘tribe’ you reference..

the people of which you write would have been the viziers and musicians the artists etc etc…. before the decay of what passes for academia and credentialism…

the reason gifted people suffer ostracization in the ‘modern’ era is that it has been sick since before they were born….

the ‘tribal-community’ now gelded, atomised, compliant and self destructive…. fat, miserable, lonely, jealous, confused, ungrounded, without identity or advocates etc etc..

still… the visionaries will as always, like ireland in the fifth and sixth centuries, pick up the pieces and rebuild..

suddyan
suddyan
May 8, 2021 3:40 PM
Reply to  dr death

[…the reason gifted people suffer ostracization…]

Being “gifted” is not the sine qua non of ostracization.

dr death
dr death
May 8, 2021 5:49 PM
Reply to  suddyan

obviously latin and its misuse wasn’t referenced in your obviously very piss poor education…

then re-read my comment and learn something…

Annie
Annie
May 7, 2021 5:44 PM

Don’t you think this is all a mental simulation it’s crap you know it I know it it’s all lies look into the cracks they make mistakes

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
May 7, 2021 5:32 PM

Today was supposed to be decision day, with regards to whether The Scottish Judiciary were going to Jail Craig Murray, for writing the Truth about them.

They still can’t make their mind up. I have massive respect for Craig Murray, though I disagree with many of his political views. I don’t really care one way or the other for Scottish Independence, and I suspect Craig Murray wouldn’t have been that keen on the subject, if he had been elected as The MP for Norwich North West, close to where he was born in England (admitedly – his Dad was Scottish)

I can accuse Craig Murray of all sorts of things, but absolutely not of being a liar, or corrupt in any way, as I have no evidence of it, even though so far as I know, I have never met him (came close on several occasions – nearly even campaigned for him in Norwich)

He is a man of courage and integrity.

To Jail him for telling the truth, would be nearly as bad as what they have done to his friend Julian Assange.

I admit it is entirely probable and very likely, that they have both worked with or for Intelligence Agencies, and for all I know might still be doing, and are part of the scenery, but I do not think that is true, and even if it is the scenery is important. Justice must be seen to be done. Even the judges must realise that, otherwise there is absolutely no point in their jobs. I am sure they have all got far more money than they know what to do with.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/ex-diplomat-found-guilty-contempt-24061577

Tony

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 8, 2021 11:19 AM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

Defence lawyer, prosecuting lawyer and judge are members of the law society and all get their cut whatever the outcome. It’s s business.

Annie
Annie
May 7, 2021 5:30 PM

Ignorance is bliss

QuantumSingularity
QuantumSingularity
May 7, 2021 7:34 PM
Reply to  Annie

Ignorance gets you culled with the rest of the cattle.

But I guess you’re happy until your body starts attacking itself and shuts down all your major organs, which is a seriously unhappy time.

I’ll take the perpetual unhappiness without the organ failure and death, thanks!

mgeo
mgeo
May 8, 2021 9:31 AM

Remeber Logan’s Run. You are in bliss until you get culled and recycled.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 8:10 PM
Reply to  mgeo

My clip is even older, Rod Taylor rescuing Yvette Mimieux, the Eloi, from the Morlocks. Classic popcorn, as it goes.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 8:08 PM

Ignorance can be bliss. Until, of course, the sharp or searing moment of cull. After that maybe not so much.

There’s got to be a better way. I’ll take yours.

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 4:24 PM

Sorry if MoneyCircus has already linked to this, but I thought it was interesting:

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/buying-a-single-version-of-the-truth

Omnicom is an advertising giant which specialises in public relations, lobbying, communications strategy, and the planning and purchasing of targeted advertising space. It builds comprehensive media campaigns for its extensive client list. Omnicom heads a North American based network of prominent advertising and public relations agencies with a world wide collective reach.

Omnicom has been awarded a number of sizeable contracts by the UK government. These have included a December 2018 advertising campaign contract for the Cabinet Office, worth up to £184 million, a £119 million October 2020 media buy-in contract with a £230 million extension clause, and a £112 million media contract for the Ministry of Defence.

MG-OMD has given their propaganda operation the Orwellian sounding name of OmniGOV. …OmniGov were behind the snappy slogans used to change our behaviour throughout the pandemic. Phrases like “flatten the curve”, “stay home, protect the NHS, save lives” and “rule of six” all rely on a psychological mechanism called the rule of three. The £119 million Omnicom contract to modify our behaviour was in discussion long before the WHO made their pandemic declaration.”

An awkward business which shatters the vital myth that the Johnson govt was opposed to the lockdown and had to be “dragged kicking and screaming” into it.

Now this from the Left pro-covid sector via Philip Roddis:

https://off-guardian.org/2021/04/03/threeish-new-reads-march/

   …Government contracts for the campaign of propaganda worth £119 million were signed with PR firms 3 weeks before the first lockdown.

I’m familiar with this claim, which I’ve seen slammed down like a royal flush to a pair of twos as proof positive that BoJo’s initial stance of ‘herd immunity’ was a smoke-screen. This is poker, right? Well if it is, the stakes are in the trillions. £119m doesn’t get us past the door and into the game. You see, once we get into the bluffing thing, there’s no end to where it can take us.”

Never mind poker, there’s certainly some kind of game being played here on this “Left” flank. And it’s being fuelled by the odour of desperation.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 7, 2021 4:35 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Yeah. Demockracy. Laugh my ass off. EVERYTHING in US politics, at least, is SCRIPTED – congressional hearings, debates, opposition statements, elections…. everything. The spoiled multi-millionaires who are approved to serve as elected representatives by even wealthier multi-millionaires and billionaires are provided with armies of talent to insulate them and tell them what to say and how to say it. The only real political conflicts are for control of various sectors of the economy (infighting between nobles). That’s all that is left. They’ll make concessions to ethnic minorities or some damaged group every now and then but those concessions are small and harmless and make them look compassionate. It’s all crap.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 8, 2021 11:48 AM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

Exactly, it’s a sport to them; some play on the left wing and some on the right but it’s for the same team.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 7, 2021 4:36 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Awaiting spam check. This crap has to stop. I wonder which word in the post awaiting spam check caused it to be held up. I’m suspicious of this spam check crap.

Sudipto Bhakta
Sudipto Bhakta
May 7, 2021 4:23 PM

The point about Ethics and Legal consideration is pointless. If those were even minutely functioning, then we would not be discussing all the above points.

One point is missing- A blood bathed revolution.

Annie
Annie
May 7, 2021 4:02 PM

By voting all your letting in is the monkey you need to talk to the organ grinder.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 8, 2021 11:53 AM
Reply to  Annie

Thanks to Mr Darwin and his Brothers, we identify with the monkeys.

Jacques
Jacques
May 7, 2021 3:28 PM

“Have you ever noticed how the leaders, whether the Johnson, Xiden, Merkel”

Leaders? … Leaders? … Fucking leaders? … It’s more like leeches.

These people are not “leaders”, they’re elected caretakers, managers of public affairs. In charge of who to send to fix the fucking sewer here, road there. Remove dog shit from the streets. Stuff like that. That’s about it. That’s the theory.

The reality is that these people are fucking parasites who abuse their position in every possible way.

Fuck them, fuck all of them. They have proved time and again that not only they are useless in the sense of keeping dog shit off the streets, but also, and much more importantly, that they fuck up whatever they lay their hands on, happily collude with anobody on a mission to fuck over the people – if they’re not part of this crowd in the first place, and so on.

They’re not leaders, elite, nothing. They’ve never accomplished nothing apart from sucking dicks and underhanded scheming to get to where they are. Any random member of the public is more valuable as a human being than these pieces of shit.

Annie
Annie
May 7, 2021 3:47 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Here here

Diego
Diego
May 7, 2021 3:49 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Agreed. Im very thankful to Off-Guardian for all their reporting throughout this last year through their intellectually honest logical thinking. But in line with that honesty in looking at what is happening and where it’s heading, it is high time sites the like of this and others start sharing articles on how to arm and organize ourselves with guns of the latest technology. Because one cannot be intelligent and intellectually honest if one thinks these criminals will peacefully step aside just because we caught them and not amp up their violence.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 7, 2021 3:56 PM
Reply to  Diego

If we shared info on how to arm yourselves we would probably be shut down. We are based in the UK where access to guns is strictly controlled by the law.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 7, 2021 4:07 PM

That seems so strange. I grew up in rural south Texas. Everyone had a gun because almost everyone occasionally hunted deer, wild hogs, doves, ducks, or geese. The crime rate was very low. Just so strange.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 7, 2021 8:48 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

People in the UK are taught to fear guns unfortunately. I agree it’s ridiculous.

i didn’t downvote you btw, but I did remove the question.

May Hem
May Hem
May 7, 2021 11:11 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

Along with the low crime rate there must be a low rate of wildlife left.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 7, 2021 11:22 PM
Reply to  May Hem

Not at all. I see more wildlife down there than I’ve ever seen and I’m 63. We DO have hunting limits.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 8, 2021 12:11 PM
Reply to  May Hem

Interesting, there’s a post way below this that won’t accept replies or upticks by someone not a million miles from here.

suddyan
suddyan
May 8, 2021 3:44 PM
Reply to  May Hem

[Along with the low crime rate there must be a low rate of wildlife left.]

Hoping the facts fit the prsuppositions of your ideology there, dear?

Hint: That is not a rational way to think,

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 8:16 PM
Reply to  May Hem

As a pacifist and non-violent Catholic, I say about guns, “You don’t bring a knife to a gunfight, nor a gun to a PSYWAR…”

Classic Mismatch.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
May 7, 2021 4:21 PM

I binned my airgun at the age of 16. I was ashamed of myself. If I’d had a Kestrel, I probably would have kept it, but my Budgie had flown off through an open window, thanks to my Sister. I hope the Ragiregdub made lots of babies.

“Kes (1969) ORIGINAL TRAILER [HD 1080p]”

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 7, 2021 8:36 PM

You’re right but Diego isn’t wrong …

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 7, 2021 9:04 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

I didn’t say he was wrong. Far from it

Roberto
Roberto
May 10, 2021 3:45 PM
Reply to  Diego

An army of the unarmed took down the Berlin Wall. They just started walking through, and didn’t get shot. Then they just started walking, or maybe running, into the Stasi offices without opposition and cleaned out the files, looking for their own records.
It was just exhaustion of the state, and especially its unsympathetic employees, not violence which invites reciprocal violence, and which provides a dividing wall of conflict only to be resolved by escalating violence.

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 7, 2021 3:57 PM
Reply to  Jacques

100 percent true. I’m absolutely amazed at the number of posters here from the US and UK who still believe that we have anything resembling “democracy” and believe that “socialists” or Russia are the causes of our decades long declines and that more capitalism and militarism will save us. Laugh my fuckin’ ass off. It’s depressing to realize that most people in the “west” are brainwashed conformists.

-CO
-CO
May 8, 2021 10:52 AM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

As I’ve repeated many times on this website a quiet war is being waged against the people using ‘silent weapons ‘. I’ve also said that it may turn out to be noisy depending on how much crap people are willing to take.

However, let’s hope that the situation can be resolved peacefully using the common law without violence which will otherwise be rapidly put down by the repressive forces of the state who are armed to the teeth.

dr death
dr death
May 8, 2021 2:19 PM
Reply to  -CO

of course in a ‘hot’ war there will be casualties… unfortunately for the hollow men they have decided to war not only with the people, but with nature itself..

‘systems’ live and die by the robustness of their ideologies and quite frankly ‘liberal democracy® (sic)’ was stillborn….

the rancid carrion that constitute the current regime will drown in their own effluent..

a fitting end for such insects..

suddyan
suddyan
May 8, 2021 3:48 PM
Reply to  Saint Jimmy

[…and believe that “socialists” or Russia are the causes of our decades long declines…]

Who on Earth could think that!? Of course Russia is not one of the causes.

[…that more capitalism and militarism will save us.]

Againonly half right, this time about the militarism part. Militarism will not “save us.”

Saint Jimmy
Saint Jimmy
May 8, 2021 4:24 PM
Reply to  suddyan

It’s all correct. 100 percent of what I stated is correct.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 8:12 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Now now

Purposeful patience always wins the day.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
May 7, 2021 3:03 PM

Went for a 2 hour walk in the woods amongst the bluebells. Saw lots of people including someone we hadn’t seen for 20 years. No one was wearing a mask, though there may have been a bit of social distancing amongst people in conversation – put pretty much normal – which I found highly encouraging.

But then we returned back to Zombieland, and my face dropped cos everyone was wearing a fucking mask including all the kids coming out of school.

Brainwashed sheep.

We are not out of the wood yet.

They are all still terrified.

Tim Fallon
Tim Fallon
May 7, 2021 2:58 PM

The Tories have spent the last year financially raping and psychologically torturing the UK with the covid fraud. They have destroyed basic civil liberties, looted the publicpurse and enriched their chums, their electoral comeuppance has been a massive majority in Hartlepool and numerous gains across England.
Now don’t get me wrong, I fully appreciate the electorate voting to ditch woke Labour but when people vote Tory on mass like this it shows that there is no hope of any way out of this nightmare.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
May 7, 2021 3:46 PM
Reply to  Tim Fallon

I agree, but it is only due to Mass Brainwashing Propaganda. Some people thought it doesn’t or wouldn’t work. Even the Nudge Team were surprised. They are the first to go for.

The Psychologists are The Curse of The Human Race.

suddyan
suddyan
May 8, 2021 3:56 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

[I agree, but it is only due to Mass Brainwashing Propaganda.]

But to be propagandised also suggests something about the target human beings that are being propagandised so easily.

Yet you claim it is “only” due to brainwashing propaganda?

So all susceptibility to brainwashing propaganda is not a factor at all?

Sorry, your assertion fails to convince me.

Annie
Annie
May 7, 2021 3:48 PM
Reply to  Tim Fallon

I don’t vote they are all the same puppets.

MBJ
MBJ
May 7, 2021 3:54 PM
Reply to  Annie

Right hand, left hand, same body.

swami
swami
May 7, 2021 5:04 PM
Reply to  Tim Fallon

We can pretend to not mention the 5/6 super Thursday THORday local / s-elections rituals.

i presumed bs19 changed things I thought brexxit changed things in how they openly operated how are people this sleep still. ??

I checked out the same people who sold trump breXxit and bojo the same lot who say ‘they dont endorse politicians.’
what did I see?
David kurten Heritage Party Leader, loads of really nice videos about him and massive sharing done, this local colored guy was on a train in a 2nd class carriage OW without a masks on!!! what a rebel!! this person with his posh voice talks hip and internet trendy ‘he must be one of us’!. Gullible fools

I saw brexXot party no the reform party being plugged by’ icky junior’ about the vaccine passports and how they would do shit i mean stop it !!!but you no the same lot who said they would employ Tony blaire as vaccine tzar (a news black out on that part) or the betrayal over brexxeit psyop nope ickey junior is all about this lot .

I saw a complete ALT media news blackout on the conservative party last 5 days clever bit of Pr their!
They the schizoids forget easily, when their given something else to play with..
What is that ?? over the last few days – few weeks in other country’s every thing is concentrated on Christians preachers not allowed to preach (very original story-line psyop used ion Canada twice USA and Ireland and of course u>K. Surely you must of noticed this..??
Kieth boy starmer being slaughtered on line (rightly so). Of course trump psyop being deleted by twitter Facebook etc yet he is still on line this perfectly aligned announcement. 

Average jo is below average they was especially before trump. even more after,
being awake aware makes you more easily hacker able.

I seen just as many awake aware people get lost in psyop rabbit holes and new age Savior programmes which Q -Trump was updated one. 

Brian rose London shill who made nearly 2 million in donations to set up a FREEdum network is now running for London mayor his insatiable ego thinks he can change London as he has ‘a you tube channel’ and hung out with ‘ickey old’ but fell out with the truth industry complex and ‘ickey old’.

‘Icky old’ is now friends again with operative alex jones and they been subversively plugging Heritage Party as so is dicky allen. The coordinated posts and sharing gives it away 

Remind me when did CIA operative 911 bashing elite whore Tucker Carson become credible/? Notice how they all share his videos.

Save Our Rights UK are campaigning to lobby the Prime Minister and all MPs to pass a Medical Freedom Bill to protect our bodily autonomy. Think of that for a second in how f*ck up that sounds and people are donating..

When will they learn……….

*Old picture from 2/3 years back. the video’s of Jones out in the streets by himself talking to people etc are mainly staged he never goes anywhere without his goons.comment image

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
May 8, 2021 1:05 AM
Reply to  swami

…- I would’ve voted for Count Binface, but it’d’ve meant tacitly rubber-stamping the whole farce with my *Implicit Consent*, merely by *Participating* at all…

suddyan
suddyan
May 8, 2021 3:59 PM
Reply to  swami

[Average jo is below average they was especially before trump. even more after…]

You never studied philosophy of mathematics or philosophy of statistics, did you?

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 8, 2021 11:58 AM
Reply to  Tim Fallon

The big problem is people VOTING.

dr death
dr death
May 8, 2021 2:57 PM
Reply to  Tim Fallon

65% of the electorate in hartleypool didn’t bother with the box ticking ritual, also the astro-turfed ‘independants’ reform etc and other dross, very little traction..

the regime is worrying about the non-voters who conceivably now constitute the majority, the facade is now pretty much crumbled and the rancid, corrupt, pink haired, faux-egalitarian, corporate wonderland fully exposed…

it makes ‘their’ notions of a ‘democratic’ process somewhat questionable and with that the validity of the entire ‘system’…..

suddyan
suddyan
May 8, 2021 3:52 PM
Reply to  Tim Fallon

[The Tories have spent the last year financially raping and psychologically torturing the UK with the covid fraud. They have destroyed basic civil liberties, looted the publicpurse and enriched their chums…]

Yes, they did. And to think that “Labour” wanted to destroy basic liberties even more with extra ladles of “psychological torture.” As to how much “financial raping” Labour would have done, we will never know, but I suspect they would have given it a good go!

[I fully appreciate the electorate voting to ditch woke Labour…]

It is not just the “wokeness.”

Roberto
Roberto
May 10, 2021 8:59 PM
Reply to  Tim Fallon

Just because they call themselves Tories doesn’t mean they are. The party have been infested with crypto-Bolsheviks, though there are some brave souls that risk cancellation for talking sense.
It’s the same story with many ‘conservative’ Parties around the world.

Chris 5
Chris 5
May 7, 2021 1:36 PM

Front page of the Journal de Montréal today… depressing. They were the first to use the term “Covidiot” in their reports on people who think for themselves and question authority. They are the most rabid arm of the pro-vax publications in this province, although La Presse sometimes gives them a run for their money. The original French-language article is here : (https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2021/05/06/une-preuve-vaccinale-numerique-sera-fournie-a-tous-1) but I did a quick translation into English.

This kind of “journalism” is rampant here, in both French & English. They allow no dissent whatsoever. There was a huge demonstration here last week (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztW0A7n9zHY&list=PLDjKfDfgbyuqcWd7RB1P5o4g9wVxvdEC5&index=214) and it was either ignored, dismissed or referred to as an insignificant gathering of a few extremists, conspiracy theorists or uneducated idiots who endanger the lives of the brainwashed faithful masses. The mayor of Montréal was particularly condescending.

Anyway, happy reading, wherever you are.

Vaccination in Quebec: digital proof for everyone
The adoption of a vaccination passport is not ruled out by the Legault government

by Marc André-Gagnon
Thursday, May 6, 2021 14:58 UPDATE: Friday, May 7, 2021 00:00

Quebec citizens who have been vaccinated and those who will soon be vaccinated will be able to receive, as of May 13, digital proof of vaccination in the form of a QR code, the usefulness and privileges of which are still to be clarified.

For now this proof of vaccination, which will be emailed on Thursday, will not be considered a “vaccination passport.”

It could be useful for those who have lost the paper proof of vaccination that is given during the vaccination or for certain travellers. For the rest, “we’ll see,” dropped the national director of public health, Horacio Arruda.

Even if the question has been around for several months, Public Health is still not decided on the various “ethical issues” involved in the vaccination passport.

Last week, Dr. Arruda showed little enthusiasm for such a pass, indicating that its use could be “marginal”, due to the “perverse effects” associated with it.

As reported in our pages yesterday, this tool, adopted by Denmark, Israel and other countries in order to be able to go to restaurants or participate in public events, is acclaimed by certain Quebec restaurant owners, who would like to take advantage of it to reopen their dining rooms more quickly.

This QR code may also be considered for the resumption of shows and sporting events, such as the Montreal Canadiens’ playoff games.

“What you want to do is a good analysis,” said Dr. Arruda, “I think there may be some use. We’re not saying no. […] There are countries which have done it, which have had positive experiences, others which have had negative elements. ”

But the pressure is on Dr Arruda. The Minister of Health, Christian Dubé, asked him to carry out “intensive work on this”.

“We will therefore come back to you shortly when we can discuss the use of this vaccine proof,” said Mr. Dubé.

Even though Public Health continues to reflect on what could become an incentive for the undecided, the Minister of Health wanted digital proof of vaccination to be available in time for the vaccination of young adults.

“It’s not for nothing that I asked to see this proof before Youth Week,” said Dubé, “There’s going to be that proof there, it’s going to be available, and then you can be sure that we’re going to work on being able to use it in the right way. ”

Further clarification will also need to be provided for those who have already contracted COVID-19 and who are immune after a single dose of the vaccine.

Quebec citizens who receive a second dose will have the information associated with their QR code updated automatically, but this will not necessarily be proof of full immunity.

“We’re not talking about confirming immunization. At the moment, we will only confirm the doses that have been received [with the QR code], ”said Mr. Dubé.

Electronic vaccine proof in Quebec:

1 – Will be in the form of a QR code that can be received by email

2 – Will be available from May 13

3 – People who have already received a dose or who are going to be vaccinated will receive an email asking them if they want to obtain electronic proof

4 – Paper proof will still be provided

5 – Public Health continues its intensive work on the potential use of electronic vaccination evidence

Jacques
Jacques
May 7, 2021 3:17 PM
Reply to  Chris 5

Fuck me …!

“On peut aller de l’avant avec la vaccination des 12-17 ans, c’est une tres bonne nouvelle … ”

Incredible. Nobody absolutely nowhere says nothing about no risks, fucking vaccination is a given, and that’s it. Just a matter of logistics.

So, 40% of Quebeckers have had the shot? Disappointing. I’d have thought that there would be more of a spirit of rebellion ….

Guess I’m not coming back anytime soon …

Chris 5
Chris 5
May 7, 2021 7:04 PM
Reply to  Jacques

That’s right, the media here, both French and English, spew out the same drivel on a daily basis.

So, the appropriate officials went and cancelled the St Jean Baptiste festivities, the F1, Osheaga etc etc. and basically any and all of the outdoor festivals that keep Montreal’s economy pumping. And, of course, nightly curfews. The provincial premiere Francois Legault has openly stated that he is basically following the Angela Merkel method… no Oktoberfest this year for our German friends… just stay at home and watch Triumph of the Will or the latest Greta Thurnberg video.

And yes, everybody here seems overjoyed that they’ll be jabbed soon. Especially the kids, apparently they just looove the idea. The more you read La Presse, the Gazette and the Journal de Montréal the more you’re exposed to this insidious, brainwashing drivel.

Here, wanna get pissed off even more? What’s this all about : https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/sante/2021-05-06/predire-la-mort-a-un-an-pres.php. You’re going to die anyway, your special DeathApp just told you you’ll waste government money and a hospital bed reserved for people infected with a cold oops I mean Covid 19. Make your will now, skip that operation, don’t waste government health care money. Just GO DIE.

Or how about this : https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/2021-05-02/retarder-le-groupe.php Don’t forget : if you dare criticize ANYTHING about vaccines, masks, curfews etc or DARE THINK FOR YOURSELF, YOU ARE STUPID, SELFISH & UN-MUTUAL.

Actually, Jacques, please come back from wherever you are, we need more intelligent free-thinkers here in la belle province. But, on a happy note, there are some free-thinkers left here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uayZ8B6ar54

May Hem
May Hem
May 7, 2021 11:17 PM
Reply to  Chris 5

Here’s a way to defeat the QR code – from the Aussie site of Common Law …..

https://commonlaw.earth/free-covid-qr-code-sticker/?mc_cid=3220d9025a&mc_eid=2660465f03

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
May 8, 2021 12:35 AM
Reply to  Chris 5

“And yes, everybody here seems overjoyed that they’ll be jabbed soon. Especially the kids, apparently they just looove the idea. The more you read La Presse, the Gazette and the Journal de Montréal the more you’re exposed to this insidious, brainwashing drivel.”

…- Allow me to share with alla y’all, a little thing I like to call the “Post-Smith-Mundt Heuristic” (per the 2012/13 repeal of the US Smith-Mundt Act prohibitting the US news media from *directly* propagandizing it’s own domestic audience… – As goes the US media, so goes the rest):…

…”The degree of *Hysterical/Histrionic Insistence* upon a particular matter contained in that matter’s reportage by the MSM is *To The Fourth Power*, *Inversely Proportional* to that matter’s actually being an extant feature of *Actual Reality* (ie: an *Actual Fact*)…”

…- I find that filtering *ALL* MSM content through this one simple heuristic keeps me (more-or-less) *Sane* and connected to *Reality*…

😉

-CO
-CO
May 8, 2021 11:41 AM
Reply to  Chris 5

The term UNMUTUAL brings to mind the British avant-garde social science TV series first run in 1967 starring Patrick McGoohan as “number six”.

In the episode called “Change of Mind”.
No.6 was brought before the village prison committee for not using the village gym and causing a fight -today it would be for not wearing mask and observing the social distancing rule.

Consequently, No.6 was judged to be UNMUTUAL by the committee and ordered to undergo instant social training involving a new social conversion technique meant to fool him thinking that he has had a lobotomy! It back-fired and he found that it was just a ruse.

No.6 always kept to himself and was strong-willed but the episode showed how public shunning could make life in the prison “village” very uncomfortable due to the brainwashing that all his fellow inmates had undergone accusing him as being UNMUTUAL.

Nevertheless, his iron- will remained firm as the village authorities were soon to find out.

Probably one of the best TV series of its kind of all time.

Chris 5
Chris 5
May 10, 2021 2:06 PM
Reply to  -CO

Be seeing you!

dr death
dr death
May 8, 2021 3:41 PM
Reply to  Chris 5

hysterical media is usually inversely proportional to reality..

although it must be said that the anglo colonies, and I include the french canadians in this, are being used as canaries in the coal mine, a beta test if you like for all the numbskull lab-coats draconian syco-policies …

before the hollow men and their computer ‘models’ roll them out in more ahem ‘reluctant’ territories.

it also seems that it’s kleptocratic ‘representatives’ are particularly power drunk and sadistic…

mediocrities always make the most effective kapos.

just remember who they are… make a list.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 8:20 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Who knows about “40%” or anything. The media has been baldly lying about all kinds of cold stats. Right?

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
May 8, 2021 12:56 AM
Reply to  Chris 5

…Naive question: – Why do I need to *Prove* my status with respect to receipt of a vaccine (or receipt of *Any Other* medical treatment for an illness, for that matter), to *Any* other human being or human agency?…

…Surely my status of being vaccinated or otherwise is a matter *Exclusively* between me and the virus (if any)?… – If I am vaccinated then (hopefully) no infection, no problem… If not then I roll the dice and take my chances…

(…My question is, of course, *Rhetorical* in the context of the OffG commentarati… 😉 )

-CO
-CO
May 8, 2021 2:32 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Because if you haven’t had their toxic vaccine you’ll be declared by the assholes in power
and the pro-vaxxers as being UNMUTUAL and in need of psychco -correction as you do not have the proof of having the jabs they want you to have meaning that your freedoms and privileges will be somewhat ‘restricted’ -very restricted!

On the other hand, if you have the shots and manage to somehow remain unscathed, your vaccine certificate will set you free (lol) and happy days will be bestowed upon you in the totalitarian regime they have in store for you. Again lol!

Should you decline their ‘free’ vaccine offer, under the current Covid legislation’ it now only takes one doctor for some reason to say that you are not right in the head and therefore are in need of their ‘teatment’ ( long or short term depending on the case) in order to ‘ protect the public’ from possible ‘contagion’ which by now it should be quite evident that it is all complete and utter BULLSHIT!

-CO
-CO
May 8, 2021 2:39 PM
Reply to  -CO

Just to add, it’s not a question of what we believe anymore it’s what the perpetrators of the scamdemic believe and that’s why they must be stopped.

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 7, 2021 1:23 PM

What sort of posters we need is piss take ones. “Have you brought your proof of sun bathing?”, “How many fruits and veg did you eat to fight the ‘pandemic’?”, “Your Yoga passport is invalidated by a corona vaxx”, “Wearing a mask carries an infinity $ fine”, “Get Free Chinese lessons with your covid vaccine, Your cuntry need you!”

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 7, 2021 2:03 PM
Reply to  Peter Sky

Your king and country need you, no shirt , no shoes, no mask.
Come on Boys follow the hag.

To wear a mask in war time is less than bad form. it is unpatriotic.
Women of Britain. Attach a white feather to you boyfriends mask.

October
October
May 7, 2021 1:05 PM

This would be a multi-layered joke, but there must be those who believe it is all true:
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October
October
May 7, 2021 1:23 PM
Reply to  October

Sorry for that 🙂

Ooink
Ooink
May 7, 2021 12:56 PM

I just spent an hour reading various sections of the internet where people congratulate each other on their injections, second injections, swap mask design ideas, sing Gov praises, quote the WHO, cite experts. Fuck the Kovi Kovi, fuck the Gov and media…it’s these people who are terrifying. This is where the terror comes from. So creepy.

Annie
Annie
May 7, 2021 2:10 PM
Reply to  Ooink

It’s sad but it’s peer pressure I’m afraid they follow the crowd I have never followed any crowd I type on here not to follow but to listen to different opinions to know not everybody follow the narrative I knew this scamdemic was a sham at day one I want to see if others think similar I’ve told so many people strangers it’s all a lie thank god my children are free minded like me and don’t buy into it I’ve even posted letters on my local church I’ve written to mps seems like nobody is listening I’ve tried and I’ll keep trying I won’t give up

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 7, 2021 3:15 PM
Reply to  Annie

Have you never heard of the thing called PUNCTUATION???

Annie
Annie
May 7, 2021 3:50 PM

No

Jacques
Jacques
May 7, 2021 4:10 PM
Reply to  Annie

High five … !

Don’t you love this linguistic gestapo? You express something about being a free-spirited individual, not given to conventions, and they pedantically pester you about where to put bloody commas … !

You don’t fit the mold, you’re out …

Hilarious.

Annie
Annie
May 7, 2021 4:25 PM

I’m trying to put my point across without the need for dots here there everywhere.Did you understand my post though?No need for superiority in these times.Is that better for you?

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
May 7, 2021 4:57 PM
Reply to  Annie

Go ahead and write as you wish. But they are not dots. They are aids for other people to quickly understand what you’re saying, which is quite helpful when you’re reading 100+ comments. That’s why they came into being.

Ort
Ort
May 7, 2021 9:45 PM
Reply to  Annie

Well, if you’re not into dots, can’t you at least throw in a few words in all-caps, and use multiple question marks to over-emphasize your points?

Apparently that’s what all of the PUNCTUATION EXPERTS do!!! 😉

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
May 7, 2021 4:37 PM

Have you never heard of people writing a stream of words, as they come out of their head on a blog as if they are speaking live to an audience?

Try editing your speech without notes, after you have already said it.

I find Annie Refreshing, which is more than I can say for you.

Jacques
Jacques
May 7, 2021 3:17 PM
Reply to  Annie

That’s the way to do it. Be yourself. If somebody has a problem with that, fuck them!

Annie
Annie
May 7, 2021 4:33 PM
Reply to  Jacques

I’m trying to understand the madness that’s going on around us,then I get people on here attacking me for free speech?Is this site what it’s all about?Or not?It doesn’t matter to me I am active in bringing this whole system down because that’s what it is a system,the sooner we realise it’s all a scam a joke.

suddyan
suddyan
May 8, 2021 4:08 PM
Reply to  Annie

[I’m trying to understand the madness that’s going on around us,then I get people on here attacking me for free speech?]

Not so.

1. “People” were not attacking you. ONE person made a comment about your comment which was not so easy to read since it lacked punctuation.

2. People were not “attacking” you. ONE person made a comment, obviously out of exasparation, about the lack of punctuation in your comment.

3. People were not attacking you for “free speech.” The comment you received was about punctuation and not about free speech.

PS. I read your initial comment. I agreed with most of your thoughts, although the lack of punctuation made it harder to read.

NickM
NickM
May 8, 2021 2:18 PM
Reply to  Annie

That’s the spirit, Annie, I envy you your children mine think I’m mad and keep well away from me if they can or give one another sidelong glances if they cannot avoid being in the same room with me same with my other relatives like you seems nobody is listening but I’ll keep trying I won’t give up.

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 12:52 PM

Rolling Stone has outdone the other Van rubbishers with this:

“Van Morrison’s ‘Latest Record Project’ is a Delightfully Terrible Study in Casual Grievance”

“Casual grievance” has to be the most extreme example of trivialising COVID scepticism I’ve yet seen.

And here’s a curious item: Every one of these Van assassinations relates the story of how he “recorded 31 perverse one-minute ditties in order to fulfill his record contract” back in 1967. Now when supposedly disparate channels take the same rhetorical route then it is certainly not a “tin foil hat” manoeuvre to suspect a little bit of co-ordination.

And RS outdoes the others in suggesting that this brass neck (and audaciously enviable) strategy on Van’s part “established a young Morrison as, among many other things, a first-rate troll”. Neat recasting of an old tale in the most suspicioun inducing modern garb!

The rest of it is predictable rote stuff:

“… more like a furious customer demanding a refund…. bares a strange resemblance to the unhinged, rambling feel of the pandemic-era internet… a collection of shitposts, subtweets, and Reddit rants… mix of dark paranoia and petty outrage so ornery that it feels playful….”

And this seals the whole thing as Van the money grubber:

“Morrison’s very own Inarticulate Checking-Account-Balance-Disputes Of The Heart.”

But if Van really wanted to cash in he’d have released an “uplifting hymn to the indomitable human spirit in the time of COVID”. Or some such.

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 1:17 PM
Reply to  George Mc

That those self deluding arbiters of the current shape of “radical chic”, the “rock critics”, should rubbish Van’s latest is not surprising. What IS surprising is that every one of them refers to the same tale of a young Van’s rebellious strategy to fulfill a recording contract.

This indicates some correspondence between those “hip” moral guardians for the “progressive” demographic.

So just as the mainstream news bullets are being directed from a minuscule command centre, so there must be a similar centre for the “arts and music” branch. Although ultimately this will come under the main office.

patrick healy
patrick healy
May 7, 2021 2:30 PM
Reply to  George Mc

George Mc
You make a very good point about the MSM all singing from a pre arranged propaganda hymn book.
If you are not already familiar with the great Anthony Watts and his web site Watsupwiththat.com which is the worlds leading anti global warming site, you should see three (so far) pieces by Kip Hansen.
It is all about the highly financed and co ordinated lies spread far and wide by and organization called Covering Climate Now from which ALL the MSM gets is daily dose of global warming indoctrination. Yesterdays piece was titled Wild Exaggeration and Egregious Lies. You will find it by cursering down several links on the website.
Just like the great Wuhan Flu scam which is in lockstep with the Global warming fraud it is a sobering expose of the way the world is being wheeled in the hand basket to perdition.

Howard
Howard
May 7, 2021 3:33 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Rock critics, almost by design, cannot help bloviating Their relationship to “cool” is rather like the description of someone as being “so ugly they were beautiful.” They’re so uncool they’re almost cool.

Years and years ago in the US there was (maybe still is) something called The City Paper. It was free and sometimes they had a good article. But if I wanted a good cringe, I’d turn to the rock reviews and put a barf bag on ready.

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 4:57 PM
Reply to  Howard

See my response to Corarden below.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
May 7, 2021 11:50 PM
Reply to  Howard

…Those who *Can*, do… Those who *Can’t*, teach…

…- Those who can’t even teach become media-employed Critics…

(…- Just my two cents…)

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 1:26 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Now do these Rolling Stone writers believe what they are writing, or are they doubly damned by smearing somebody they know is telling the truth. Either way, it is another reminder that there is nowhere in the mainstream that isn’t utterly corrupted and sick.

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 4:46 PM
Reply to  Corarden

Well it’s sobering to see how everything changes. I recall those 70s when Bob and Mick were “cutting edge” before they settled into the embarrassing role of Grand Old Men of the Mighty Rock. And all those “rock critics” also considered themselves “where it’s at”. Yes I was there at the time – a callow teen overpowered by the glamour of it all.

I now realise you’d file this under “Dad Rock” now – if not “Grandad Rock”.

But in retrospect, any revolutionary potential there was in the music with reference to actually changing anything was pretty much dealt with in the 60s when Bob (who was never into social or political change anyway) beat a decidedly unglamorous retreat and thus ensured that he didn’t go the way of various other figures who met the fishes a little prematurely. Mr Lennon didn’t take the hint and we all know how that ended up.

As for the “rock crits” well they settled into the same role as the academic Left – indeed they were often the very same people.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
May 7, 2021 11:55 PM
Reply to  Corarden

…- The *Only* two (former) Rolling Stone writers worth a damn, in the magazine’s *Entire* history, *Ever*, are Hunter S Thompson and Matt Taibbi…

QuantumSingularity
QuantumSingularity
May 7, 2021 4:46 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Fill me in here. Is the new Van Morrison a straight diss on the Con? I don’t read any mainstream media as it leaves a very sour taste in my mouth and makes me want to throw up.

I haven’t actually bought music in a long time, mostly just SoundCloud and other streaming sources along with radio. However, if VanM is telling it like it is I will absolutely throw some money at them!

I keep waiting for all the typical counterculture artists to release songs telling the government to fuck off, but sadly have been disappointed. Where are all the Rage Against the Machine types who just don’t give a shit and make the music they want to make? Have enough of them been ‘suicided’ in the manner of Chester and Chris that the ones left are not only scared for their careers but even more scared for their lives?

If VanM is found swinging from the rafters soon I think I have my answer.

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 5:00 PM

Oh Van is saying straight out that it’s all the most godawful shit. I couldn’t vouch for the quality of the songs. I tend to think a message is better when you make it as simple as possible. There was somebody called, I think, Terrible Tim who came up with this:

The fake bug

Gives you the blues

The fake bug

On the fake news

Perfect!

QuantumSingularity
QuantumSingularity
May 7, 2021 5:12 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Awesome!

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 7:14 PM

I may not have made it clear but the fake bug thing is not Van. Here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbtyZsBKey8

And I see I got the lyrics the wrong way round.

QuantumSingularity
QuantumSingularity
May 7, 2021 5:05 PM

I went to their website and read a bit about the new album. Seems like a keeper to me! I’m not a huge Van Morrison fan, but I do consider myself a fan. My parents are bigger fans than I am, so if I can find it on vinyl maybe?

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
May 7, 2021 11:42 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“Casual grievance” = Doubleplusungood… – The woke brigade already claimed first dibs monopoly position on alla *that* shit… – *HANDS OFF*, Teh Unwokes!!…

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 1:57 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

Hard to watch…Jesus Christ

Annie
Annie
May 7, 2021 12:23 PM

People in power for thousands of years have always cried the sky is falling in to the populace so we conform panic make sacrifices which benefits the rich they live off of us without us they would be nothing they are the virus parasites.

Tim Fallon
Tim Fallon
May 7, 2021 3:01 PM
Reply to  Annie

Trouble is they are good at propaganda and most people aren’t very good at critical thinking.

Howard
Howard
May 7, 2021 3:35 PM
Reply to  Tim Fallon

Let me add to your observation that people are very very good…at what they enjoy. Most people simply do not enjoy thinking.

Annie
Annie
May 7, 2021 3:53 PM
Reply to  Tim Fallon

Maybe I think too much?All I know is this is one big phyop.

rubberheid
rubberheid
May 7, 2021 5:00 PM
Reply to  Annie

was it not the Celts who told Rome, or suchlike, that the only thing they feared was the sky may fall and crush them…? context.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
May 8, 2021 1:14 AM
Reply to  Annie

That’s been always like that, and won’t change until we change it; and we won’t change it until we must.

“The law locks up the man or woman
Who steals the goose from off the common,

But lets the greater villain loose
Who steals the common from the goose.”

Anonymous, 17th century.

Koba
Koba
May 7, 2021 12:19 PM

I am genuinely excited for the herd to be bumped off! Warning a rabbit staring into ever growing headlights hasn’t worked!

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
May 7, 2021 11:55 AM

Piece of garbage John Oliver:

https://youtu.be/z6BdeJnP5fQ?t=64

Koba
Koba
May 7, 2021 12:20 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

Don’t share shite mate! No one except John Oliver likes John Oliver

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
May 7, 2021 12:42 PM
Reply to  Koba

Roger that.

Ooink
Ooink
May 7, 2021 12:21 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

Never heard of him. But anyway yeah well you know…let’s say there’s 1000 vax theories floating around discussing the negative effects, it’s pretty much a certainty that 950 of them will be “plants”…crazy plant theories planted into the dissent narrative to make the dissent narrative appear crazy. These are the ones that fuckfaces like your John Oliver salivate over. You know how all that works. You can cut through all that bullshit with this simple thought: (not addressed to you ToyAussie): Fuck your vax…fuck your injection…fuck your potion…fuck your fully indemnified corporations in bed with Gov hawking your mystery vax goop like 2-bit carny barkers…don’t want it, not having it. Fuck off. That’s how you handle the vax. If you get sacked from work, fuck it. Do something else. If the Gov sends goons to you house to hold you down and inject you with their goop…you know what to do.

Ponies
Ponies
May 7, 2021 12:40 PM
Reply to  Ooink

Right on.

Jacques
Jacques
May 7, 2021 12:43 PM
Reply to  Ooink

You da mahn, mahn! You speak my language.

I might add that stabbing a person with a sharp object, not to mention injecting him/her with some shite, reeks of assault causing bodily harm/attempted murder, and one has the right to self-defense.

Tim Fallon
Tim Fallon
May 7, 2021 3:05 PM
Reply to  Ooink

‘If the Gov sends goons to you house to hold you down and inject you with their goop…you know what to do.’

They don’t need to do that, they just need to ruin your life by denying you the right to work, travel, shop and socialise unless you have a valid vaccine ID/passport.

Those in power won’t mind if you live in a cardboard box under a bridge, they know that very very few will resist to that degree.

Ooink
Ooink
May 7, 2021 3:35 PM
Reply to  Tim Fallon

Well that’s implied. But nobody who knows what to do is gonna be living under bridges. Gonna have to be smarter than dichotomy options.

Jacques
Jacques
May 7, 2021 4:12 PM
Reply to  Tim Fallon

That’s sure the plan. But plans never work 100%.

Don’t be a defeatist.

Fortune
Fortune
May 7, 2021 6:21 PM
Reply to  Ooink

That is how fact checkers work to “refute” anti establishment views. They cherry pick one part of one argument which is flawed, rather than address the central issue honestly.

Ooink
Ooink
May 7, 2021 10:14 PM
Reply to  Fortune

That’s right. Sometimes they’re narks, sometimes they are just petty people.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
May 7, 2021 11:35 PM
Reply to  Fortune

…AKA: The ‘Strawman’ fallacy…

…- To Oink’s point above about bullshit, crazy plant theories, anyone else noticed the whole ‘Nanochips/5G’ brigade have gone *Strangely* radio-silent for, like, *Months* now?…

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 11:29 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Which may indicate that there IS more freedom in the US media as opposed to the wretched cringing Brit contingent.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 6:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Well, I can’t say for certain, having “read” (gagged) on too much of both nstional brands.

It’s SOP propaganda/war games for these rags to introduce something plausible in the big con stories. But that too is a part of the psyop, just executed in different ways for variety’s sake. For later plausible deniability.

I don’t have a nano-particle of trust in ANY of them.

CAVEAT LECTOR.

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 11:44 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

Hello John.

That’s a heartbreaking photograph that accompanies the article, looking at all the teenagers in the background, masked and and waiting to get injected with that shitty vial full of god only knows what. I just can’ t believe what is happening. Yesterday, I looked out of the window, and an unmasked mother was escorting her son, probably about 13 years old, mask on, to the local food shop. They came back the same way, and I saw his dejected expression more clearly – so this poor lad is wearing the mask at school, when he leaves and heads outside, and probably only takes it off at home…or in bed. It’s a crime against humanity, and I could cry blood.

Jacques
Jacques
May 7, 2021 12:48 PM
Reply to  Corarden

I hear you, but heartbreak is not what people ought to feel. Fuck heartbreaking. The times are tough and the tough gotta get going.

Seeing red, pissed off, wound up to the utmost extreme, raging fucking mad, bloodthirsty sounds more like it.

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 1:29 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Yep, I hear your Jacques. I’m an emotional fellah, but don’t worry, I keep that cold fire stoked.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 6:43 PM
Reply to  Corarden

Yes, it’s World War III, make no mistake.

torrens
torrens
May 7, 2021 10:42 AM

Here are a few good links for the podcast enthusiasts: hours of very informative listening.
There are a lot of good podcasts on the Progressive Radio Network.
.www.prn.fm.
https://prn.fm/schedule/# Every hour you listen to one of these programs is one less hour of MSM guff.

https://thewhistleblowernewsroom.podbean.com/e/the-whistleblower-newsroom-040921/
https://thewhistleblowernewsroom.podbean.com/e/the-whistleblower-newsroom-041621/
These two are Dr. McCullough
https://thewhistleblowernewsroom.podbean.com/e/the-whistleblower-newsroom-043021/
Another doctor with good creds
https://prn.fm/progressive-commentary-hour-04-28-21/ yeadon
And to take you further down the rabbit hole.
http://mediaarchives.gsradio.net/rense/special/rense_043021_hr3.mp3

aspnaz
aspnaz
May 7, 2021 10:28 AM

The reality is that we will never get any ethical behaviour from government until the same people are made directly responsible for Covid deaths as well as the economic ruin as well as the destruction of education and damage to children: there is one person in that position, the leader of the country.

Have you ever noticed how the leader, whether the Johnson, Xiden, Merkel, do not interfere in the decisions made by their department heads? The country leaders do not behave as leaders, instead they behave as bureaucrats that are beholden to specialists.

This is deliberate. By creating an environment where different people are responsible for different problems, you create an environment where nothing gets resolved because everybody is concerned about their area.

Instead of the leader leading, he lets the bureaucrats fight among themselves, thus saving him from being seen to be the real problem. He will, of course, be able to change policy, but he often will not do so, allowing the worst outcomes to happen because they are best for him yet he doesn’t get blamed.

Self serving, individual, national leaders are the problem: nothing more, nothing less.

Peter Sky
Peter Sky
May 7, 2021 11:40 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

the responsible ones are the shops demanding people where masks, the parents demanding kids wear masks and the teachers telling kids to wear masks, the doctors injecting shit and giving poison treatments, the people eating junk food and going to the pharmacist for drug prescriptions etc. Your passing responsibility to the “the virus” as per the bs germ theory.

Jesper
Jesper
May 7, 2021 11:59 AM
Reply to  Peter Sky

Put a shirt on or take off your trousers “Mr. Natural”!

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 1:30 PM
Reply to  Jesper

Sorry, just saw your post after saying same thing

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 1:30 PM
Reply to  Peter Sky

Is this guy incapable of keeping his shirt on? Who is he?

Claret
Claret
May 7, 2021 3:28 PM
Reply to  Corarden

Yes. It’s Johnny Weissmuller.

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 7:27 PM
Reply to  Claret

He’s looking good for his age

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
May 7, 2021 11:50 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

I agree with this and this should be made into a demand, a general demand of tge people: not to just stop the fascist experimentation but to HOLD THOSE RESPONSIBLE ACCOUNTABLE, NO MATTER HOW MANY DECADES IT TAKES. NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES, FOR THE SAKE OF PUBLIC AND COLLECTIVE MEMORY, THOSE RESPPNSIBLE POLITICALLY, FINANCIALLY AND SCIENTIFICALLY SHOULD BE PERSECUTED, AGAIN, NO MATTER HOW. LONG. IT. TAKES.

mgeo
mgeo
May 7, 2021 11:51 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

This also relates to fiefdoms. In return for political support that keeps the (leader’s) government in power, the warlord (minister) faces minimal oversight. The focus of his “government service” is plunder of national wealth, a basic feature of fascism. Politcal (propaganda) gains and the revolving door (to the private sector) are subsidiary goals. Leading civil servants are in a similar position.

Grafter
Grafter
May 7, 2021 11:57 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

They’re only following orders from the 0.01%. They should however be shown up for the spineless supine, subservient tribe they are.

Koba
Koba
May 7, 2021 12:22 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

Anyone pushing the “Biden is a chinese puppet” needs a slap! He’s hired the most hawkish anti Chinese anti communists to his team for fucks sake! Go back to Breitbart. That’s the kind of place to accept such idiotic shite

patrick healy
patrick healy
May 7, 2021 2:37 PM
Reply to  Koba

That cheating, corrupt, senile clown may not be a Chinese puppet, but he is certainly not the legitimate President of the US

aspnaz
aspnaz
May 7, 2021 3:03 PM
Reply to  Koba

So Xiden is all you got out of this? Ha ha, you are emotional and dumb.

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 10:07 AM

Ah COVID resurgence imminent via the “back door” and prepared by a horror show even less likely to be verifiable since it happens “offstage”:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57016110

“Covid: Concern increases over India variant in UK”

Do you want burning pyres here too?

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 10:45 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Yup the Graud is going for it:

“New concerns as Indian Covid variant clusters found across England”

Lots of lofty pronouncements from those mysterious “scientists” involving scary “B” figures.

Prof Christina Pagel, echoing the breathless sci-fi horror boffin, tells us the meaty bit:

“Clearly this variant has escaped into the community and is spreading quickly. It highlights the fundamental weakness of the red list travel system in that we just don’t know where the next dangerous variant is coming from. This should prompt a complete overhaul of our travel policy for the summer.”

And to complete the horror cliche:

“Pagel added that the data should have been made publicly available.
“Public Health England are clearly very concerned about the rapid spread of this variant – as they should be,” she said. “But telling the public about a public health emergency should not need to wait for a specific release day or local elections – this should have been communicated earlier, not least to protect communities where the clusters are.””

Thus an appeal to the “radical critique” meme re: the creation of “incompetent officials”.

Deepti Gurdasani, clinical epidemiologist, completes the scenario:

“Gurdasani said while research was ongoing to explore the impact of the variants’ mutations, action was needed now, noting that people were continuing to mix …”

Worrying indeed!

Grafter
Grafter
May 7, 2021 12:01 PM
Reply to  George Mc

What a creepy shill Pagel is. A knighthood is in the offing.

Howard
Howard
May 7, 2021 3:48 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Maybe with the endless variants around every corner, the people will simply “give up” – throw up their hands and conclude it’s hopeless no matter what they do.

So maybe they’ll actually decide it’s not worth it – and take off their masks and move closer and stop getting jabbed.

Or maybe, in thinking they’re capable of real as opposed to fake despair, I’m giving them too much credit?

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
May 7, 2021 11:18 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“…mysterious “scientists” involving scary “B” figures. …”

…Uh-huh, so it’s *Officially* a B-movie, now?… – I suspected as much…

…- “Plan ‘-19 From Outer Space”?…

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
May 7, 2021 11:11 PM
Reply to  George Mc

…Y’know what I *Love* and *Always* look for in a truly gripping yarn, be it a novel, a film, tv show or whatever, is a decent *Twist*… – Something wholly unexpected the audience doesn’t see coming that keeps you *rivetted*…

…- Alla this BS is just *SO* predictable, I’ve lost my willing-suspension-of-disbelief *Entirely* at this point and keep reaching for the remote… Sadly it seems to be on every channel, with no signs of cancellation in view, as yet… – Who’s *scripting* this garbage, anyways?! – The writers need firing!!,,,

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 7:05 PM
Reply to  George Mc

For those who know well how to read our news, and Brits’, the pundits hysterical language SO betrays them: I just posted earlier here the ravings from a “free” digest that befouls my inbox every morn from NYT. Only one sample: “…the crematoriums blazing with fire these days throughout India…” in one capsule summary alone I counted 6 or 7 such frenzied adjectives. “Thousands of bodies daily…”

Naive readers will not stop to ponder that thousands of bodies were being burned daily in India ten years ago. Their body count on any day is about 30 TIMES that of UK.

Meanwhile, they have not yet bothered to disinform us why a hygiene-challenged land had a miniscule fraction, less than 9% of the USA fatality rate….?

The way they are going with that is to say they were furiously undereported deaths.

Right? Bla bla bla bla bla bla bla.

You can see their game plan from way back is just to keep updating the lies with new and improved “contexts”. They foresaw these updates. Had them in drafts 10 years ago!

Hey, they print what helps them, pre-fabricating facts.

£4£&$4$…..

“….in the night
The hum of printing presses
Turning forests into lies…”

“After” a poem by W. H. Auden

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 9:47 AM

Pitchfork has a go at Van and his “deeply held grudges” and “pathologies”.

And let’s play the sanctimonious woke card:

“Morrison was apparently radicalized by the coronavirus lockdowns, which, in the manner of privileged white men everywhere, he evidently perceived as a personal affront.”

And the pseudo-class bit:

“Van hilariously valorizes himself as the only living protest singer, by which it appears he means he is the only gazillionaire rock star to be a pandemic-denier besides Eric Clapton.”

Fuckin’ bourgeois rich bastards sneering at us defenceless proles down here struggling with the new bubonic!

And when that fails, the old neo-Nazi move:

“They Own the Media” is a cringeworthy title adjacent to a common anti-Semitic dogwhistle …”

All attacks on the media are “anti-Semitism”!

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 7, 2021 10:49 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The Wilderness of Mirrors ongoing “construction project” is being played by its obscurantist poseurs on both sides apace, like a card game: “I’ll see you an anti-semite and raise you two wokesters.”

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 11:34 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

My guess is that the nurtured psychological aversion to the word “conspiracy” is no longer working so well so they have to attach the “anti-Semitic” bit. But I reckon that the strength of that desperate resort is fading too.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 8:28 PM
Reply to  George Mc

As career Obscurantists, they are always happy just to slow down the torrents of enlightenment to a trickle. They play the clock, always have.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
May 7, 2021 10:55 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

“The Wilderness of Mirrors ongoing “construction project”…”

…As I recall John, this ploy ultimately didn’t work out so good for ol’ JJ Angleton… – *Caveat Emptor*!…

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 8:30 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Angleton bred and fed that Beast, til it broke “free” of its chains. Has been ever since.

Some freedom.

Ooink
Ooink
May 7, 2021 11:22 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Lol. So they have the bad white man, the bad rich white man and the bad rich white man who hates Jews all in the one article. I can see our social justice warrior friends frothing at the mouth now! Time tear down some statues.

Kika
Kika
May 8, 2021 4:24 AM
Reply to  Ooink

Hey – what happened to the good old “far right”?

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
May 7, 2021 12:02 PM
Reply to  George Mc

How the hell is this not the third world war?

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 9, 2021 8:32 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

Where were you? This has always been WW 3.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
May 9, 2021 11:33 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

I was getting a beer from the outside fridge. But I’m back now. And I’m ready to fight.

Ooink
Ooink
May 7, 2021 3:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Pitchfork handled Belle and Sebastian. Stuart Murdoch fights for every social justice cause there is. He’s a free thinking, heartfelt humanitarian. Yet he’s a mask wearing dunce who believes everything on kovi kovi. He’s totally empty. So full of promise. So empty of knowledge.

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 9:26 AM

Well you’ve got to grab a laugh while you can:

“Pregnant women are struggling to get the coronavirus vaccine because clinics are unable to guarantee they will have the right type of jab available, Labour MP Stella Creasy has said.”

(From those Beeby Boys)

Pregnant women are devastated! They are on their knees begging for the vax! After all, they were heart broken by the initial news the vax might be damaging for them. Who cares if it kills you as long as you die COVID free!

Jacques
Jacques
May 7, 2021 9:43 AM
Reply to  George Mc

After a very long time, I checked the BBC site today and watched the video you’re probably referring to.

What struck me most was the use of the term “pregnant people”. As if “woman” has become an offensive dirty term or something.

People don’t get fucking pregnant, women do …!

This woke shit is beyond belief.

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 9:58 AM
Reply to  Jacques
Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 8:45 AM

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 7, 2021 9:59 AM
Reply to  Corarden

The Guard can pick on my man Van as much as they like, he’s still one of the greatest living legends and Astral Weeks has been in my collection since the time it was released and will be till the day I die

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 10:09 AM

Yay! Big smiley and hugs. I’m enjoying the new album. So if anybody from the Beeb or The Fraudian is here, we’ve known for some time to do the diametric opposite of anything you advise or punt. I started listening to the new Van album as soon as you vilified it and him. Cheers!

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
May 7, 2021 11:37 AM
Reply to  Corarden

Van is one of the pantheon of singers who could sing me the phone book and I would think it was marvellous – Dylan, Baez, Springsteen, the Bee Gees, John Lennon, Sam Cook and Aretha are right there with him

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 1:36 PM

Great list. Although never really got Dylan, even though he flew over our house in a helicopter to land at Blackbushe Airport in ’78 for this massive gig just up the road. This small village in Hampshire got invaded by all these American hippies. It was hilarious, I loved seeing all these weirdos even though I was just 11.

Listen to the ‘Fucking Sit Down!’ cries at the start…lol…

Ooink
Ooink
May 7, 2021 3:44 PM
Reply to  Corarden

Used to be a fan. Still am but he forced his girlfriend Suze to have an abortion in the early 60’s and he was a communist dupe early on. Dylan I’m talking about

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 5:06 PM
Reply to  Ooink

Did he? What a bastard.

patrick healy
patrick healy
May 7, 2021 2:48 PM

Oh Marilyn, look up what a dick Springsteen really is.

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 5:07 PM
Reply to  patrick healy

OH, whoops, didn’t spot Springsteen in there, yep, what a hollow twerp he’s turned out to be, doing his nauseating elbow bumping bullshit on Spotify with Obummer/ Obomber…

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 7, 2021 9:00 PM
Reply to  patrick healy

With you, Pat. I was/am a fan of the music, however the man is a dullard.

George Mc
George Mc
May 7, 2021 11:02 AM
Reply to  Corarden

I’ve only heard the New Record Project song and thought it was likeable in its drollness. But the quality of the songs isn’t the main issue here. It’s the astonishing fact that it took a singer songwriter to break through the mainstream prison to launch a genuinely critical view of the COVID claptrap on channels with a dangerously high profile.

Thus Van has departed from the celeb circuit who slavishly serve Covid Inc. We can expect a severe howl of frothing moral outrage from such “pop icon” hacks as Stewart Lee.

Although I suspect silence will be the safest route. So they will try and impose a media blackout as long as possible.

Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 8:32 AM
Corarden
Corarden
May 7, 2021 8:33 AM
Reply to  Corarden

If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next
Manic Street Preachers

he future teaches you to be alone
The present to be afraid and cold
“So if I can shoot rabbits then I can shoot fascists”

Bullets for your brain today
But we’ll forget it all again
Monuments put from pen to paper
Turns me into a gutless wonder

And if you tolerate this then your children will be next
And if you tolerate this then your children will be next
Will be next, will be next, will be next

Gravity keeps my head down
Or is it maybe shame
At being so young and being so vain

Holes in your head today
But I’m a pacifist
I’ve walked La Ramblas but not with real intent

And if you tolerate this then your children will be next
And if you tolerate this then your children will be next
Will be next, will be next, will be next, yeah will be next

And on the street tonight
An old man plays with newspaper cuttings of his glory days

And if you tolerate this then your children will be next
And if you tolerate this then your children will be next
Will be next, will be next, will be next

mojo
mojo
May 7, 2021 9:33 AM
Reply to  Corarden

That song is about the anti fascist forces converging in Spain to defeat Franco. Eric Blair was injured there. The enemy was and remains the same. Fascism. So whoever goes on about communism wrt to this scam knows jacques shit.

Koba
Koba
May 7, 2021 12:27 PM