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DISCUSS: MSM experiences global internet outage

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UPDATES:

– Major CDN claims it experienced massive error. [Jump]

– Possible narrative of “over centralised” internet taking shape? [Jump]

– One single customer blamed for “software bug” + Fastly shares jumps 11% in value. [Jump]

– Talking points updated with new reports. [Jump]

Huge swaths of mainstream news sites, and other major online services, have all gone down within minutes of each other this morning.

The Guardian, BBC, New York Times, The Independent, CNN, Buzzfeed, the New Yorker and other outlets are all returning 503 errors. And major service sites such as Twitch, Amazon and PayPal are down too.

The early theorising was that some massive “cyber-attack” has taken place, but there’s no hard evidence of this being the case as yet. No official statements have been made.

Some are reporting government websites are down too, although they were up when we checked them:

As we say, there’s no official word that it was a cyberattack, yet, it may still be ascribed some huge technical fault. Some unconfirmed reports are saying it’s an error with a major CDN (content delivery network).

But even then, it’s hard to imagine some agenda or narrative isn’t at the root of all this. Especially since it seems only major sites have been hit (so far).

If the disruptions are indeed blamed on a cyberattack, it would be one of the biggest in history and be a timely occurrence for the establishment, which has been trying to shift the conversation to cyber attacks a lot over the last month or so.

Just yesterday it was revealed that the US government had seized millions in cryptocurrency paid as a ransom to the “hackers” who disrupted work on the biggest oil pipeline in the country.

That “cyber attack” caused a gas shortage and sent the cost of petrol surging. The hackers responsible – apparently known as Darkside – claimed they did it for money and didn’t mean to “cause problems”.

Following this, at the G7, Joe Biden had “urged” other members of the economic group to “take seriously” the role that bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies play in cyber-attacks.

Whatever the root cause of this situation may be, it’s certainly true “cyber attacks” are suddenly in the zeitgeist, and crypto is in the crosshairs.

Certain questions arise…

  • Will this outage be blamed on a cyber-attack?
  • If so, who will be blamed?
  • What will the proposed “solution” be?
  • If it’s not a cyberattack, what will be blamed?
  • Will new legislation be pushed through on the back of this?
  • Does the CDN story make sense?
  • Why were only major sites affected
  • Is the internet too centralised if this can indeed happen by accident?
  • Can that be turned into a narrative that needs a solution?
  • Will bitcoin (or other cryptocurrencies) be in the firing line?

As always, discuss below, and we will add important updates to this post.

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UPDATE: Just minutes after this was published, the CDN Fastly released a statement claiming they had experienced an error. They claim they have fixed the problem but sites may have high origin load for several hours.

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UPDATE 2: Planned or not, a narrative around the outage is shaping up. Several outlets are already a) Totally accepting the given explanation, and b) Suggesting that, as we posited above, the internet may be “too centralised”. The Telegraph quotes one source from IT company Digital3:

This is what happens when half of the internet relies on Goliaths like Amazon, Google and Fastly for all of its servers and web services. The entire internet has become dangerously geared on just a few players.”

While Sky News has a column taking a similar if less-iconoclastic angle:

Internet outage is a cautionary tale about the fragility of the web

It is possible this really was just an accident, they do happen. But it’s also possible it was setting the table for more internet problems down the line, or just designed to make people feel vulnerable, or people made money shorting Fastly stocks before they slumped…who knows. Only time will tell.

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UPDATE: Fastly has announced the “software bug” was caused by just one customer changing their settings. This seems bizarre, and given that fastly is a relatively minor CDN provider – much smaller than Cloudflare or Amazon Web Services for example – it’s odd it had such a big impact. (It’s especially odd Amazon would have been impacted, as they literally own one of the biggest CDNs in the world.)

But these are questions there will likely never be an answer to.

A fluffy write-up in the Indy tries to put a positive spin on the incident:

Perhaps the brief outage reminded people of just how vital, vulnerable, and essentially incomprehensible, the modern internet really is. You don’t know what you’ve got until its giving you an error message…Incidents like this underline the fragility of the internet and its dependence on a patchwork of fragmented technology. Ironically, this also underlines its inherent strength and how quickly it can recover.

Meanwhile, Fastly have had an overall 11% jump in the share prices in less than 24 hours as their apparent indispensability was demonstrated.

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Andre
Andre
Jun 11, 2021 12:32 PM

What about a trial to ensure that certain news will not reach the public: like election fraud and thus evidence of a coup and the illegal BIden government?

j d
j d
Jun 10, 2021 3:04 PM

Acticate Humanity Episode 72 – Dr. David Martin and James Purpura discuss this in this episode. David had said this would happen 2 months ago.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jun 10, 2021 10:42 AM

probably the same russians what held the irish hse hostage so that it still can’t work, even during this log down furlough.

Binra
Binra
Jun 10, 2021 9:39 AM

The question of ownership is the issue of responsibility and control.
There are different levels of infrastructure that include the financial system on which business depends, must comply with or it will go bust.
The idea of corporate capture cannot be separated from social engineering.
The intent to manipulate others and world given feasibility by concentration of wealth as leverage via backroom deal making, with the front end of narratives for change set in virtue or as salvation from evil threats, that mission crept to its tipping point of exposure as a real and present evil to the underlying life support system that it claims to be caretaking or delivering. Because it is all based on lies.
Deeply embedded lies operate fundamental mind capture such as to prey on fears, weaponise them as sources of funding and sacrifice, to a false god defended by a blind priest class dispensing ‘virtue’ to the self-hating in exchange for authority to speak in its name.

True God is free of deceit, coercion or conflict, hence a transparency to a true and just account. The true mind never left its Source, but the belief we make or mask ourselves is a false father that must shun and hide from exposure or be dispelled as a trick of the mind. Deeply invested in a masking story is the grasp of a false sense of possession that became a fear of dispossession set against our own being. We became stranger unto our Self. We set an alien agenda of freedom in limit, distance and mask as a private or covert identity in which awareness of truth must be denied even though nothing else is.

The working out of themes of separation all lead to a prodigal homecoming because a false or mis-taken inheritance cannot replace a true Inherence, but it can set a frame for a love set in fear, pain, loss and death from which no escape is possible BUT repeating and compulsive sacrifice to shifting lies by which to not know the lie by which it ‘lives’ in your name.

We are already of One that is Communication of an order that cannot be limited, but live as compartmentalised minds tethered to a body set among bodies defined by distances. It is the internet of bodies set as a psychic modelling within an electro-biome that is responsive to the constant communication of a Cosmos seen as objects set in ‘space’

The Space we ‘nothing’ is the Field of which we are.
Resonance is the key to recognition.
The discernment of truth in willingness to release judgement.
And an Internment of judged Things.

http://willingness-to-listen.blogspot.co.uk/

node
node
Jun 10, 2021 5:36 AM

First, I am very surprised that this article does not mention Cyperpolygon (WEF) at all, second I think this will be the next big narrative. That being said, being an “ethical hacker” allows to dig a little bit deeper here. And everyone can to some extent, a useful start would be to traceroute sites (possible on any operating system) or simply to use the extension “IP Address and Domain Information” for Firefox based web browsers. This little tool give you a lot of information about any domain visited.

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 1:07 AM

I would say that a Carrington Event would solve all our problems except for one little fly in the ointment. 500 nuclear reactors containing thousands of tons of radioactive fuel melting down. Just a handful melting down would make global nuclear war look like a pleasant day out. Actually I think I’m saying we are totally screwed no matter what happens. It’s like a time bomb. You know it’s going to go off you just don’t know when.

Peter
Peter
Jun 10, 2021 11:57 PM
Reply to  Niles

A Carrington level event would cause the collapse of the grids and therefore modern civilisation which is built on the flimsiest of foundations. The meltdowns will end the remnants of life on the planet.

Maggie
Maggie
Jun 17, 2021 5:03 PM
Reply to  Peter

As will the ‘Sampson Option’ booby traps that Is ray hell have placed throughout the world….

Seamus Padraig
Seamus Padraig
Jun 9, 2021 9:55 PM

Well, if it’s Bitcoin they’re after, I guess we’ll be invading El Salvador soon …

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 1:08 AM
Reply to  Seamus Padraig

LOL it’s under US control. Literally not figuratively

Edwige
Edwige
Jun 9, 2021 5:44 PM

Trademark op bullshit explanation has followed. The outage was caused by one customer. Really? Simultaneously this makes “conspiracy theorists” look ridiculous (you thought if was the CIA/WEF/whoever – but it was just one guy ho ho) while moving into place that the network is that fragile that it can go down with normie-plausibility in the future if that’s the way they choose to go.

The Fraud’s report includes mention that Amazon lost $6,803 a second during the outage. Yep, it’s another 9/11 event thinly disguised. They also report that Fastly’s share price went up after the outage which I guess was one of their ‘thank yous’.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 9, 2021 5:22 PM

“Infestations & overdoses”: Newmarch House horrors return — The Klaxon and here is Australia this is what’s going on as they pretend they have to jab these poor old souls, this woman was the one who escaped to hospital last year with pneumonia, the other 18 died untreated.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 10, 2021 2:06 AM

Basic Thatcherism still going strong…
“I DO care. I DO care… We must privatize everything, so that this situation cannot arise again.”…

Maggie
Maggie
Jun 17, 2021 6:49 PM

Marilyn – This is the norm for UK care homes… I had first hand experience with both my dear Mum and Father in Law who suffered from dementia and I cared for him for four years……he was taken away from me, when I had a spell in hospital and then the SS refused to let him come back home. So I began visiting at breakfast time because Dad said he wasn’t having breakfast.. the next morning I went in earlier to get him ready to go for breakfast only to discover my Father in law… who wore incontinence pads because he had bladder cancer…, lying naked under a sheet on a urine soaked mattress…He had managed to remove his pyjamas and put on a cardigan, that was ringing wet. This was at 7am in the morning. They lied through their teeth saying they had just checked on him.. I called his own GP and insisted she let me take him home,, She had him moved to another ‘home’ the same day. He was only there one night. They put bars up on his bed and he climbed out, fell on the floor and damaged his back. They rang to tell us, about 10am, and we rushed over to him.. he had been thrown in wheelchair and was hanging in there by his shoulders, whimpering in pain. My Husband and I got him back into his bed, with not a sign of a carer.. despite him whimpering loudly?? I confronted the ‘matron’ in no uncertain terms and was told a doctor had seen him and prescribed paracetamol.. He was completely shocked and shaking, so I demanded the doctor be sent for again. In the meantime I rang my Sister in law and all the Grandchildren because I felt he would not survive the day. Immediately she saw him, My Sister in Law rang an 999 and he was rushed to hospital, where they examined him and said he hadn’t long to live. He died three days later. Unfortunately in those days none of us were aware that we could sue the NHS/GP’s for removing him from our care, or the two Care homes for negligence… I then went through a similar experience with my dearest Mum, who collapsed with pneumonia and was rushed to ICU. She suffered from COPD, ICU were absolutely fantastic. However after 12 weeks she was transferred to a Geriatric ward. We went early for the 2pm visit, and the doors were ‘locked.’ I could hear my Mum coughing and gurgling so I got in when an orderly came out, and found Mum having just had the tube removed from her neck, on her back foaming at the mouth, her hair and nightie wet through with sweat. My Husband and I rolled her onto her side and changed her nightie after scooping whatever was in her mouth. They had given her tablets to swallow??? A Staff Nurse came bustling over asking if we knew what time visiting was, and gave us a card with the times??? I asked her if she knew anything about nursing, and not to give a patient ‘tablets’ who had just come off a respirator and had a tracheostomy removed? And asked her why she thought it was OK to leave my Mum choking and gasping for air to reprimand us for being early. There was no apology or attempt to help my Mum. I was loathe to leave her, and spent the whole night telephoning every hour to check on her. I wrote a very serious letter of complaint and was invited to a meeting with ’12’ officials.. Who thought they were going to intimidate me into being quiet but I let rip. I told them that for the rest of Mum’s stay there, I would also be staying. I slept in a chair for two nights and then they moved her into a side ward, where I slept in a chair, but then they got me a room just on the row from her, two weeks of this and they transferred her to the Macmillan Hospital, where she was supposed to die.. but I stayed with her all day, till bedtime and got her walking again and eating. Six weeks of this and a social Worker arrived to speak to me and said that Mum was being transferred to a Beautiful Nursing Home 12 miles from mine… Some of the staff appeared to be very kind and caring in front of me, until Mum began to lose weight rapidly. She was on Forte-sip three times a day. I noticed she was always drinking the same flavour. so I went into the kitchen to check.. only two had been used out of a box of 24, she had been there two weeks??? So I marked the one she was using. When I went back the next day, I confronted the Manager.. who said everything Mum had was recorded? My Daughter who is just as forthright as I am asked to see Mum’s records, only to find that the’ same’ person signed for Mum’s med etc. on every shift!!! I raised the roof and called a meeting of all the care givers and the Home’s GP who I arranged to see before the meeting. I found Mum laying on the bed in her underskirt with her eyes closed, calling for a nurse. I hid in the bathroom to observe and wait for the GP. Who arrived and was quite disturbed. It was clear as day that |Mum had neither been eating or more importantly drinking – anything, and had developed signs of dementia.. ‘dehydration’ more like.
We had the meeting and it was decided to move Mum to a higher class home, where we paid extra.. And initially Mum began to thrive. My Mum has always been fastidious, washing her tights and undies every evening and hanging them over her bath. She happened to leave the tap running one night and flooded her room.. So THEY TURNED OFF HER WATER, resulting in her being unable to flush her loo or wash her hands except in the filthy loo. She hadn’t a clue were the communal loo was or the bathroom??..My sister visited one afternoon and found Mum crying, covered from head to toe in faeces. She went to find a ‘carer’ to bathe Mum.. there was no offer of comfort or kind words from them, only distaste.. They stuck her in a bath lift and ran the water. They were about to lower her when my Sister called stop and tested the water, which was boiling!!!! And would have given Mum third degree burns had they continued. They were unconcerned about this and left my Sister to adjust the temperature and bathe Mum. She ended up with C Diff and died about 10 days later.. There was no sorry, except from ONE young carer who was going to study to be a midwife, and had ‘loved’ mu Mum like her Nan. She and her Mum came to the funeral and we kept in touch for many months after… I and my family have been devastated totally by the treatment our loved ones received. I wrote to CQC and media and had meetings with no end of people who promised there would be change. That was 13 years ago, but there has been NONE.. if anything it is worse. I would advise anyone who has loved ones in a home, to set up cameras throughout the room.

IMHO 95% of care workers are pure evil… I hate them with a vengeance. They have no souls or empathy, and are totally cynical. Nothing to do with pay… I looked after an old friend for a year whose hair I used to do, many moons ago before she became old and frail, and my Mum’s best friend for two years.. then my Father in Law and finally Mum all for free.. for love and respect for who they once were.. Now it is my turn, but there is no way I will be going into a home.. when I am finally incapacitated, I have a bottle of pills and whiskey…
I only hope that the devils who neglected my Mum and Dad reap what they sow….
I’m glad I got that off my chest – again.. It never gets any easier..
Sorry to those who have had to wade through this…..

dr death
dr death
Jun 9, 2021 2:24 PM

‘cyber polygon’ anyone…

what about the move to the new ‘gold standard’ in late june…. (of course ‘they’ have been squirreling for decades and so has the new bankster HQ china)..

trillions and trillions about to be aggressively deflated… ouch !!!

the ‘deagel’ forecasts (now of course deageled ) are beginning to make sense..

you have to keep your beadies on the ‘hollow men’…..
because of course they have you all chasing ‘shadows’ in ‘platos cave’…. harry houdini’d..

presumably you have all planned accordingly…. and if possible get out of the city.

dr death
dr death
Jun 9, 2021 2:37 PM
Reply to  dr death

klaus magoo and the davos daleks are busy clearing out all the ‘aged’ financial liabilities in their ponzi scheme to grab a few more months liquidity as they prime the big guns…

and now they are intent on balancing the books (in ‘their’ favour of course, and with ahem, ‘masonik’ flair)..

because of course they have sucked the husk of western neo-liberal demockracisms dry.. having run the con to it’s last cent as they always do..(ask any ‘collapsed civilization’ they’ve run em all)…

and now they are coming for all the outstanding ‘entries’ on the ledger, ‘jabber’ in hand….

‘exterminate exterminate’….

Cascadian
Cascadian
Jun 9, 2021 1:21 PM

“They” made a mistake – <speculation> in the process putting in place the necessary controls to enable shutdown of designated sections the Internet someone screwed up, with the consequent uncontrolled outages. It sounds very much like some updates that were carried out by the recipients of the off-shored elements of infrastructure expertise back in the late 1990s and early 2000s – procedures written down on paper (algorithms – AI, anyone??) can never replace an experienced brain.

Denys Picard
Denys Picard
Jun 9, 2021 12:45 PM

I experienced the same crap yesterday on Disqus. It returned 503s for about half an hour..Just after I made a joke on American Greatness blog concerning Biden asking another Trillion to rebuild the Capitol. But Jeff might be trying to send the message that he is essential to world balance and is asking a 1 Trillion Dollar raise to the Biden government because he doesn’t appreciate his personal income tax statements being scrutinized. (Jeff explained that it doesn’t have to be paid in Bitcoin…it could just be in future tax credits…He is such a great guy. How can the Universe have survived so long without Jeff and Elon, I ask you…)

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jun 9, 2021 1:23 PM
Reply to  Denys Picard

Hard to believe he’s about to risk his life with space travel … Is that fair to us? Somebody stop him!

Chevrus
Chevrus
Jun 9, 2021 1:58 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

When it goes the way of Challenger we can rest easy knowing that he is chillaxin on a private island with numerous funds that just keep on giving….

Claret
Claret
Jun 9, 2021 2:07 PM
Reply to  Chevrus

‘knowing that he is chillaxin on a private island
…..
Maybe he will be doing that whilst making dumb cgi vids about his fake space adventures.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 10, 2021 2:10 AM
Reply to  Claret

He is a chillblain on a private bottom.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 10, 2021 2:09 AM
Reply to  Chevrus

Peter
Peter
Jun 9, 2021 11:21 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Very hard to believe.

les online
les online
Jun 10, 2021 12:18 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

like winston churchill, he’s got a double, like the stunt men in the movies…. same as all the Very Important People had saline injections, not the real thing…

Thom1111
Thom1111
Jun 11, 2021 3:33 AM
Reply to  les online

It’s possible, but not known for sure. Hillary Clinton certainly used a body double as it was very apparent in the lead up to the 2016 election.

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Jun 9, 2021 12:44 PM

The powers that be are preparing for another false flag. The hacking ‘scandal’ is a ruse. Those who supposedly hacked the oil pipeline terminal shouldn’t have got far as they used Bitcoin for payment.
Bitcoin is trackable and as such the US authorities have already recouped the loss of the bitcoins.

The shysters that be want total control of the internet. They want to turn it into a propaganda outlet full of advertising and surveillance.

So what of the perps? Shouldn’t we soon hear of their arrest? Don’t hold your breath.

Hiltrud Jones
Hiltrud Jones
Jun 10, 2021 6:27 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

I have the strong feeling that this was a false flag to further push the narrative of domestic terrorism. And yes, also total control.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jun 9, 2021 12:07 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

He’ll be one of them.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jun 9, 2021 2:39 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

I would use a stronger word, and for O Leary as well. Pair of cnuts.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 9, 2021 3:26 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

I make a point of not watching the interminable sewer that is TV and when I saw this I knew why. Although it must be said that I was heartened that Bev Turner managed to say what every truly responsible person has been saying form the start. The two male creeps have no argument and had to rely on sheer aggression.

All of which leads me muse that whoever is behind all this is someone who scares the entire media to death. There they go running in terror and bleating about “the finest scientific minds” and murmuring darkly about a segregated UK. These media hacks are terrified of someone above!

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 9, 2021 3:40 PM
Reply to  George Mc

From The Daily Mail: 

“Anti-vaxxer pundit Beverley Turner is ‘blocked from ITV’s This Morning’ after on-screen row with presenter Dermot O’Leary over the coronavirus vaccine…
A discussion about the jab’s effectiveness became a heated row after Ms Turner said young people should reject having the vaccine. It is understood that staff on the show have been told not to book Ms Turner, 47, as a news reviewer amid fears her Covid-19 views are too controversial. A source told The Mail on Sunday: ‘Production staff were told Bev is banned from the show after the comments she made… they couldn’t have her on again.’

Sources close to Ms Turner, who hosts weekly podcast “As good as it gets?” with old friend Marina Fogle, said she has not had any contact with This Morning since the argument.

ITV declined to comment.” 

Well I wonder what kind of “corrections” went on behind the scenes? How many were hauled over the coals and threatened with termination of their contract?

Oh, but wait a minute! This is from the Mail! Oh, that’s a Right-Wing Tory paper! Therefore, it can’t be significant and only plays into the hands of the evil reactionary conspiracy nuts who are so well funded … etc.

Get back to the mountains of corpses piled up around the WSW!

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 9, 2021 4:15 PM
Reply to  Peter Abraham

The Independent (and that title always makes me laugh!) have joined in with the condemnation of Brave Bev. They report that she advised rejection of the vax –

EVERYTHING ELSE SHE SAID DELETED!

But full quotes from the couch cock suckers around her.

Gatekeepers of the world unite! (Oh, you already have! Of course!)

Waldorf
Waldorf
Jun 9, 2021 10:25 AM

There was at least one occasion in the Syrian Civil War when Syria’s access to the Web was totally cut, though only for a day or two. I don’t think it was ever clarified who was responsible, whether it was the Assad government or insurgents.

popo says
popo says
Jun 9, 2021 9:25 AM

Worm of the Week: Discussism

John
John
Jun 9, 2021 8:56 AM

Does anyone believe that FBI app cracking drug bust bullshit!! What a joke.
The message is simple. We watching you. Everyone.

Chevrus
Chevrus
Jun 9, 2021 2:00 PM
Reply to  John

Yeah right? “We made this really clever app. that only really bad people use”
The stuff we are expected to believe.

Annette
Annette
Jun 9, 2021 8:37 AM

Frankly, I do wish they would make the internet crash: it would return to us our freedoms, it would put an end to forced vaccinations, an end to PCR tests, an end to trace and tracking, an end to surveillance, an end to propaganda…

It would give those addicted to the internet and their phones the possibility to regain their humanity, to stop taking their dogmas and their virtual world for reality.

John
John
Jun 9, 2021 8:55 AM
Reply to  Annette

And who exactly would you share your thoughts with? Where would you find real news? I understand your sentiments but there are many benefits to.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 9, 2021 10:26 AM
Reply to  John

Benefits like what? Political globalisation? Covid? The examples you give were all possible down the pub before the internet existed. As for real news, pub news was just as accurate as the shit shower we stand in at the moment.

At least we can now buy cheap crap made in third world countries by slaves without needing a middle man …. if you knew the language to operate the sites … yeah!

John
John
Jun 9, 2021 9:11 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

Okay, go switch off your modem. Tell me what you glean from the atmosphere or your beer swilling mates. Such idealistic horseshit.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 10, 2021 12:00 AM
Reply to  John

You mean I wouldn’t know about Covid?

Indeed. For me, the only evidence of Covid is on the net: I don’t have an idiot box and don’t visit Pravda or the BBC. In real life there is no Covid where I come from, so I would be a happier person living in reality. Is there something wrong with that or should I be cowering in fear of the latest scam from the liars in charge?

John
John
Jun 9, 2021 9:14 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

They could easily have done this without the internet and then what would you know. NOTHING. The MSM is completely controlled. Are you going to do a phone around to see if you alone with your thoughts… You all would have been vaccinated already

Annette
Annette
Jun 9, 2021 10:09 PM
Reply to  John

This could not have been done without the internet, which is why it was necessary to await that all the technology for online conferences, online transference of teaching, medicine, etc was possible. Because 1) you have to minimally have things working, governments working, and without the internet, people would have to go to their place of work
2) isolating people without even give them virtual interactions would have made them riot within at most a week

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 9, 2021 11:56 PM
Reply to  John

It could probably be done in the UK without the internet, after all the UK is full of people with Stockholm syndrome, hanging on every word of the BBC output as if they were passing on the word of god. Pathetic but true.

Maybe possible in the UK, but in India, Africa, Asia etc, i don’t think so, they had to have the internet to have this “global” scam.

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 12:41 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

I don’t see the necessity of the internet for any of it. People would get their ‘news” from the MSM and we know what that means. I see the internet as an annoyance to their plans. Where else would you get alternative dissenting opinions like this excellent web site? A news paper? CNN? The local pub!! WTF some weird ideas on this blog.
What has the internet got to do with any of this?

Lutz Barz
Lutz Barz
Jun 9, 2021 1:04 PM
Reply to  John

You can’t be serious. Truly woeful. There is the telephone! No screen. Radical. Go to the pub who knows you may have something in common with someone, most of us do.

Claret
Claret
Jun 9, 2021 4:20 PM
Reply to  Lutz Barz

Yes Lutz – Visiting the pub and real-life interaction with real people after such a long, stressful time is a truly uplifting experience.

dr death
dr death
Jun 9, 2021 2:50 PM
Reply to  John

oh dear john….

dear dear..

John
John
Jun 9, 2021 9:16 PM
Reply to  dr death

Change your nappy

Annette
Annette
Jun 9, 2021 4:29 PM
Reply to  John

Im afraid I have connections with real physical people who are all very cognizant of what is happening. I do not have to rely on the world of the internet.

John
John
Jun 9, 2021 9:15 PM
Reply to  Annette

Then go away and turn off your modem. Time how long you last.

Annette
Annette
Jun 9, 2021 10:21 PM
Reply to  John

My modem is not turned on most of the day. As a writer about notably scientific matters I do access online libraries and academic journals which as a former academic I have the privilege to have been allowed to keep, but for example for my present article, I have most of the material at home, so dont need a modem. If internet went off, then as was the custom before, I would just send a hard copy to the science policy journal that asked me to write this for them. If further access to online libraries and journals went off, well I am only 20mns door to door from some of the world’s best libraries.

And I am also probably be doing other things that will keep me altogether away from the internet. In fact I dont read on internet, and I often dont even write drafts on the computer or do corrections to my writings on the screen.

Its true I wont have access to colleagues round the world, and that would be a loss, but then those with actual practical impact and influence on my physical life are here. So I guess Ill just have to rethink some priorities.
A publisher is pushing me to transform a short story I wrote into a novel… I may then concentrate on that, though its a novelty for me. I wont need the internet at all for that!

Im here talking about myself, but its true for most: we can live without the internet. Before these last months, I hardly used it. And I wont be wasting time writing comments! I dont actually even have the time to read any media, alternative or mainstream, especially now that I have several projects Im involved in. The main part of my work is reflection, the internet prevents reflection!

On this note, goodnight!

Peter
Peter
Jun 9, 2021 11:31 PM
Reply to  John

Your modem is irradiating you with more than just propaganda.
We conspiracy theorists foolishly assumed the web would usher in a glorious era of anarchy and truth. With a few deft moves the banksters put the entire system in the control of Yuckerberg, Brin and a few others. The scamdemic could not have been implemented without their efforts.

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 12:44 AM
Reply to  Peter

So why are you here posting on this web site?

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 12:43 AM
Reply to  Annette

This is a global event that will affect everything and every one. How is chatting to your mates going to inform you?

Annette
Annette
Jun 10, 2021 3:01 PM
Reply to  Niles

If you knew who they were, you would not be saying that!

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 9, 2021 10:38 AM
Reply to  Annette

An interesting factor resulting from technology is the de-skilling of the workers in society. I saw this as a computer programmer, the introduction of Java – a free language – enabled companies to employ lower skilled workers as programmers. The trend has continued, Google has GO, MS has C sharp. All designed to increase the number of programmers by reducing the skills required… the exact same thing that happened with modern manufacturing.

But, today I read that there has been an increase in domestic electrical fires in the USA and the cause has been reducing standards of electrical workmanship. I suspect that is because people read up how to do it on the internet, then have a go and cook grandma.

Yes, totally irrelevant post.

Arby
Arby
Jun 9, 2021 12:51 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

Interesting. And amusing, in a macabre sort of way.

Lutz Barz
Lutz Barz
Jun 9, 2021 1:05 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

and then they wonder why the Chinese make such better products.

dr death
dr death
Jun 9, 2021 2:58 PM
Reply to  Lutz Barz

yes they make excellent ‘landfill’ well worth destroying what’s left of you ecology for..

think of all those gainfully ’employed’ imbeciles and the ‘GDp’…

and all that lovely shiny ‘tat’… soon to be useless ‘shit’…

yes yes…

Chevrus
Chevrus
Jun 9, 2021 2:09 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

Its almost as if critical skill sets are being bred out of the population.

Binra
Binra
Jun 9, 2021 11:28 PM
Reply to  Chevrus
Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 12:47 AM
Reply to  Chevrus

Almost? Know any blacksmiths, cobblers, weavers or real carpenters? It wasn’t that long ago that without these people you didn’t have a society. You didn’t have a civilisation. Turn off the power and see how long our society lasts. It’s insane all the knowledge and skills flushed down the toilet because of electricity.

dr death
dr death
Jun 10, 2021 12:56 PM
Reply to  Chevrus

under scrutiny merely a distant memory…. egalitarian nominalism cuts down all the tall poppies… ( a useful tool for the teknokrats and social manglers, precluding healthy competition due to them having drifted into degeneracy and imbecility, and thus having devolved into an inferior creature intolerant of the superior)..

indeed they aim to replace all ‘genius’ and ‘beauty’ wherever found, and elevate all foulness and mediocrity, thus finding comfort and solace for their own shell like emptiness and tedious monotone personalities..

presumably they see themselves as victims…

one can only hope…

Annette
Annette
Jun 9, 2021 4:36 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

What you say is actually interesting and quite true: its been going on for sometime.
Its in most activities. And as qualified workers are less, evidently the work is not going to be done properly and in some fields this could be disastrous.
Is not that what we are seeing today, the mediocratization of research and its consequences in the field of medicine?

Arby
Arby
Jun 9, 2021 12:50 PM
Reply to  Annette

The plan is to crash the net and re-start it again. The fourth industrial revolution doesn’t proceed without an internet. Only when it comes back, it will be absolutely nothing that we will want. It will lack democracy, which is already lacking. It will be a tool for counterrevolution only, used to surveil and control. And you can’t have a technocratic society without an internet.

Annette
Annette
Jun 9, 2021 4:59 PM
Reply to  Arby

At the start of this affair, the internet has been very good to provide information and a sense that those of us who were convinced it was all wrong and tyrannical found apparently like-minded people. But on the whole the internet can be useful if you already have discernment and a certain training, which can only come from the best teachers. Using the internet without discernment has made all too many believe in dogmas, justify worldviews which play to their inner dark rejection of humanity. I dont mean just this covid dogma. There are many dogmas. Its given people a false feeling of understanding and knowledge. Half baked knowledge is in my opinion more dangerous than ignorance.
Unfortunately you find many kinds among those against today’s dominant dogma and who roam the internet. To tell the truth, among the veritable grassroot, the one not on the internet, the one that lives in physical reality, you find admirable people.
But that part of the population on the internet is not necessarily the most attractive part of humanity, nor do they in any way represent most of humanity.

The internet is just a medium, but one easily misused, and not just by those trying to implement surveillance.

Just to say that its best not to rely on the internet too much.

Arby
Arby
Jun 9, 2021 8:52 PM
Reply to  Annette

Well, When the internet is all I have and I’m incarcerated at home…

I don’t a tv set and here’s a good reason to not own one: It’s ‘all’ pharma-funded, unlike the fast disappearing internet.

There’s nothing I would like more than to have the freedom to do out and shop without being accosted (or, soon, asked for my papers) or forced to mask (self-harm). There’s nothing I’d like more than to be able to go to an espresso bar and enjoy coffee (good or bad) and see and meet people. I can’t make that into a reality. I don’t own the world.

In all things, strive for balance. And be sure to care. Caring is knowing. As well, all solutions flow from caring.

Annette
Annette
Jun 9, 2021 10:26 PM
Reply to  Arby

Read. Listen to music. Better learn to play an instrument. There are so many creative activities. If you like to draw or paint, do that. If you like carpentry, build furniture. How do you think the world lived until recently?
And there was I dont know about far more, but at least no less happiness than in recent years/

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 12:51 AM
Reply to  Annette

While the world falls apart around you. The problem with being an ostrich is your ass is sticking up in the air.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 10, 2021 11:49 PM
Reply to  Niles

Goodness me. The point the OP was making, if you could all stop sniping and use some joined-up thinking, was that, in their view, the internet is the root cause of this and much other unhappiness, and without it we wouldn’t BE trapped in our homes, because in the OP’s opinion, there would be no NWO, no New Normal, no Covid. It’s a POV. Could you perhaps all get your heads around that and stop the endless snide one-line remarks? Try developing the conversation with your own nuanced POV. A2

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 12:50 AM
Reply to  Annette

Yes but you assuming everyone has the IQ of a peanut (fairly valid but still a generalisation). Quiet a few people can distinguish between rubbish and fact and for those lucky few the internet is invaluable.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Jun 9, 2021 7:52 PM
Reply to  Arby

You can’t have a technocratic society for much longer, period >.

The Long Descent (qv!) says: ‘No!’

No internet at all. It will be interesting to see when the last regional remnant of the net dies out. A century ahead? 150 years? But the idea of the whole global system surviving as an intact worldwide unity is looking distinctly bleak on a considerably shorter time frame than that. Younger people already alive today have a good chance of witnessing its demise. (For the longer-term total extinction we’ll have to rely on a few more serial reincarnations to get to witness it. 🙂 )

I think I’d put a small bet on Russia having the last bit, before the web finally vanishes altogether into an increasingly legendary past, when the mythic minerals and the mythic industrial techno-whizzery that turned them into nano-computers, still existed in reality in that time, rather than just in folk-memory…

Here endeth today’s lesson of really unpopular – but true – ideas! :0)

Annette
Annette
Jun 9, 2021 10:29 PM

I agree with you. If only for a question of energy. Possibly one reason to make retail, travelling, i.e. normal life shut down is to control whatever energy sources of easier access, i.e. fossil fuels, are left and reorient it to their 5G, which is energy-vorous.

Lutz Barz
Lutz Barz
Jun 9, 2021 1:02 PM
Reply to  Annette

Full on yeah, I mean full off off. I only go online 5 evenings per two weeks. Only to do my research because there are some amazing real entities, I don’t care they don’t have to be human who have good sites that gives one hope even as a friend of mine is entranced to one TV station and claims to be informed and then accused me of getting my info from a bubble, or the other is social media which I don’t do – in fact I have written a letter to FB to delete me seven years after I left—so they use my digital fake to claim more subscribers so their numbers are dodgy, and I agree that some real life would be groovy, like no idiots staring at screens in pubs! Hopeless, but Nietzsche warned us mass demo-crazy society is breeding a new downward stupdity and each mask wearer proves that. And dump the tv as well. Even the radio I threw in the bin. I get my music from bandcamp because of real indie bands and read heaps of books. Maybe a new renaissance -though my brain is more of a wreck than cohesive. Others will such as your thoughts.

Annette
Annette
Jun 9, 2021 5:19 PM
Reply to  Lutz Barz

Glad you read plenty of books! Glad you listen to music.

Yes best to live in physical reality. Some friends and I have this project to live in the countryside, making our own vegetables, etc, but also organizing some of the activities we no longer have, a life anchored in the soil, evening classes, and so on and so forth: we all have something to teach, everyone does. And we also all have much we would like to learn. For instance I play the piano, classical, but never ventured into improvisation. Im hoping someone else I met will guide me to new musical horizons. Interestingly I met these friends because of the current situation, and also others who recently suggested we come and live in their village. I hope this summer to have the opportunity to go and visit the said village. I have this vision of a beautiful domain, and to create this peaceful garden, a place that will be a shelter to all those who need a rest away from the turmoil, to all those who hope to live in a human way, sharing with others, a place whose door will never be closed to anyone, a place where people from all cultures and horizons will be able to meet in all civility. People need to let go of the violence they have in them, a violence they appear to have accumulated over the years, a violence which all too often boils over in the current circumstances. And most want to let go, want to find again a meaning to life that will be creatively sustaining. They just dont have the opportunity or the realisation how to.

Claret
Claret
Jun 9, 2021 5:45 PM
Reply to  Annette

Yes Annette. I know people who are thinking along those same lines. I know of some who have already left the city.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Jun 9, 2021 8:17 PM
Reply to  Annette

Do you mean Hobbiton, in The Shire, Annette? Not being snide. It was Tolkien’s dream home too. And mine.

You can encourage yourself and your friends with the thought that you’ll be riding with the great flow. What you outline is one of the main ways that human communities will organise themselves, after the Single Giant Pulse Event (qv!) of industrialism in Earth’s history has burnt itself out through its ungovernable profligacy in splurging away all the non-renewable planetary endowments which made it possible in the first place. We’re already in the early stages of that process, as the Long Descent steadily picks up momentum, right now.

Annette
Annette
Jun 9, 2021 10:31 PM

I never encourage myself with what the flow does. I do not care about what others do. I meant to leave the city long before this happened. Personal circumstances prevented it, and then the measures.

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 12:52 AM
Reply to  Annette

All books are controlled now. You might as well read propaganda.

Annette
Annette
Jun 10, 2021 3:05 PM
Reply to  Niles

That shows you do not know where to find good books! And the best teachers are mainly from former times.

John
John
Jun 10, 2021 10:12 PM
Reply to  Annette

You live in a nonsensical fantasy world.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 10, 2021 11:51 PM
Reply to  Niles

What a fatuous remark. Who ‘controls’ them? Read some older books then. Just… what a fatuous remark. Stop it. A2

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Jun 9, 2021 6:28 PM
Reply to  Annette

I beg to differ. Without the internet I wouldn’t be able to acess the few remaining oases of sanity such as this, and I would be forced to rely on the MSM for news.

Annette
Annette
Jun 9, 2021 7:28 PM
Reply to  Tim Drayton

Once again the internet can be helpful, like any tool: a hammer can help you put a nail to hang a picture, but it can also harm you or enable you to harm others.

I am very sorry : is there no one where you live you can talk you. Because what matters are local developments, and except for some who can act more globally, everyone can act locally. And local developments may not be on the internet, rather its through real people come to know of them.

But yes I was playing devil’s advocate a bit: I just have seen very recently in someone what roaming on the internet without discernment can do, even if you happen to understand the dominant dogma of the day.

Some of us you see are actually rather wary about a repeat of the Terror period in the France of 1793 ensuing this particular episode. And unfortunately these people are getting their fuel or food or whatever from the internet.

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 12:57 AM
Reply to  Annette

For someone who has such high moral ideals about the evil internet you do spend a lot of time on the internet blogging about it. Talk to? Who? I’m surrounded by brain washed zombies. And what does that help anyway? At least on the web I can find web sites like this and realise I’m not alone and other humans also see it.

Annette
Annette
Jun 10, 2021 3:07 PM
Reply to  Niles

We all need to let steam off when our friends are temporarily absent, especially on days when your stand (not here) attracts insulting responses.
But you’re right I shouldnt. I have no time to waste. Thank you for your observation. Given its useless to address commenters, as you say its futile. It helps no one.

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 12:54 AM
Reply to  Tim Drayton

Finally some sense prevails. Thank you

karen elliot
karen elliot
Jun 9, 2021 8:24 AM

At the 1.01.50 point of the Odysee Fuellmich – Gerrish video, Gerrish mentions a document that advises ‘if a baby is born and there is any suspicion that that baby might test positive there should be no skin contact.’ And the effect of no-contact on the infant ?

‘The impersonal child-rearing practices that have long been the mode in the United States, with the early severance of the mother-child tie, and the separation of the mother and child by the interposition of bottles, blankets, clothes, carriages, cribs, and other physical objects, will produce individuals who are able to lead lonely, isolated lives in the crowded urban world with its materialistic values and addiction to things.’

‘The contemporary American family constitutes only too often an institution for the systematic production of mental illness in each of its members, as a consequence of its concentration on making each of it members a “success”…(Touching. The Human Significance of the Skin – Ashley Montagu)

https://Odysee.com/@TruthWillOut:8/Fuellmich-Gerrish-UKC:3

karen elliot
karen elliot
Jun 9, 2021 8:41 AM
Reply to  karen elliot

As for the elderly warehoused in age care centres, cut off from family and others by lockdowns. ‘The most important and neglected needs of old people is the need for tactile stimulation. One has only to observe the responses of older people to a caress, an embrace, a handpat or clasp, to appreciate how vitally necessary such experiences are for their well being…

‘On the basis of the kind of evidence cited in this book it may be conjectured that the course and outcome of many an illness in the aged has been greatly influenced by the quality of tactile support the individual has received before and after the illness.’ (Ashley Montegu)

So, thinking of the kids : 6 feet apart in class (anti-social distancing), or sat inside plastic cages to prevent any body contact, masked, and so on…Mental torture added to their usual obedience training (aka schooling)… (Future) Mental Health problems…

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 9, 2021 10:15 AM
Reply to  karen elliot

Now another one of the nutter Melbourne think tankers are suggesting we have to jab all the young to ”stop the virus”, the one that doesn’t exist. FFS Melbourne are largely the cause of this bullshit with all the Gates funded unthink tanks peddling garbage in their incestuous little bubble of insanity

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 9, 2021 11:43 AM

Acting Premier James Merlino said today that: “we know that this isn’t over yet, and until we have widespread vaccinations across Victoria and our country, the virus will still be with us”.
Couldn’t be plainer. Translation: get jabbed or the deadly killer virus will rear its head again, and you’ll be going back into lockdown”. You’re right, it is insanity here, and a small number with their, shall we say, “connections” are pulling the strings.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 9, 2021 11:50 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Every think tank is in Melbourne University and are all funded by Gates

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 9, 2021 12:09 PM

Yes… and Duncan Maskell became Vice Chancellor in 2018. He was formerly at Wellcome Biotech, Imperial College and sold a company he started to…. AstraZeneca. How timely he arrived at Melbourne University when he did!
https://www.unimelb.edu.au/alumni/news/melbourne-welcomes-new-vice-chancellor

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 9, 2021 1:29 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Wellcome is the rebrand of the Eugenics society

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 9, 2021 1:44 PM

And you know who the chairperson of the Wellcome Trust is don’t you?
Yep, Julia Gillard.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 9, 2021 11:52 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Someone needs to sent Bill Bowtell, Tony Blakely, Norman Swan and all the scabs in the Dogherty institute to Manus Island and the IQ level will rise instantly here and lower instantly there.

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 1:00 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

They have a target percentage. Until they hit that percentage they will keep beating the dreams and slashing the grass.

Peter
Peter
Jun 11, 2021 12:03 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

When was the dictator last sighted ?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 11, 2021 12:23 AM
Reply to  Peter

February? I can’t really remember, however the filth put out a tweet during the latest lockdown along the lines of: “keep fighting Victoria, you’re all doing a great job” or something vomit inducing like that.

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 12:58 AM

Yes, I just thought of a number plate logo for Victoria. “The Vegetable State”

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 10, 2021 4:12 AM
Reply to  Niles

The Vegetable Mutant Zombie State?😏
Jane Halton, the co-ordinator of the scamdemic in Australia the other day opined that the goal is to have every Australian jabbed by Christmas.
Channel 9 referred to her as a “health expert”. Now it looks like Queensland is up for its turn (their state of emergency expires on June 29th)

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 9, 2021 10:29 AM
Reply to  karen elliot

So Biden is doing it for the children?

Chevrus
Chevrus
Jun 9, 2021 2:12 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

You better believe it. There are countless videos of him leaning over and sniffing…

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Jun 9, 2021 8:21 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

To the children?

NickM
NickM
Jun 9, 2021 9:02 AM
Reply to  karen elliot

One of the nicest things I heard about the Ancient Greeks is, They knew how to llive within their skin.

Mammals (ie, creatures with cuddly babies and loving mothers) possess a special set of skin receptors which react to stroking — not massage, just slow, gentle stroking.

Howard
Howard
Jun 9, 2021 3:35 PM
Reply to  karen elliot

Holy Roman Emperor Frederick II (13th Century) would be pleased with the dictum regarding “baby that might test positive.” Supposedly, in seeking a natural language, no contact was allowed; and, of course, the babies all died.

At least Frederick didn’t know what would happen. Today’s “experts” cannot claim ignorance. They know very well what the outcome would be. And yet they’re allowed to prescribe the conditions of child rearing.

Truly, “we live in an asylum” (as Dane Wigington of geoengineeringwatch.org has repeatedly said).

Penelope
Penelope
Jun 9, 2021 7:54 AM

I’m sorry that I’ve forgotten the details, but– you know that Event 201 rehearsal that they had for Covid? Well, they had a similar rehearsal for a takedown of the power grid. Just google “simulation of power grid takedown.”

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jun 9, 2021 12:08 PM
Reply to  magumba

Well, there you go.

Chevrus
Chevrus
Jun 9, 2021 2:15 PM
Reply to  magumba

With the incredible amount of foreplay going on it seems unlikely that this WONT happen..plus it seems to be part of the plan anyway.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 9, 2021 10:43 AM
Reply to  Penelope

I once worked for a bank that used to take backups religiously – they paid a vendor – but nobody had ever asked the vendor to practice restoring their systems from the backup.

Ort
Ort
Jun 9, 2021 9:37 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

Ha. The Pennsylvania state agency where I worked was slow to update its technology. And it wasn’t until the year 2000 that it actually created an IT Department; before that, the hardware/software vendors conducted limited training of Central Office (CO) staff, and after mainframe systems and terminals were installed in field offices they deputized workers considered to be “good with computers” to serve as “automation coordinators”.

I was one of those reluctant automation coordinators. Anyway, your comment reminded me of some fancy backup system with special cassette-style tapes delivered to the offices with new IBM Multimedia PC systems. It was obvious that the new equipment was the result of a typical state boondoggle– some Harrisburg politicians and their cronies making a bundle.

There was a lot of fuss about using these dedicated backup gizmos daily and religiously. The CO project managers would call to confirm that the offices were making the backups, etc. We had to keep backup logs, submit them to the CO, house the backup tapes in a special file cabinet, etc.

I relate all this to point out that during the months that management made a big deal out of these supposedly vitally-important and useful backups, nobody– but nobody— ever actually used the backup tapes. The nominal “training” we got didn’t even address how to use the backup system to restore data.

Eventually, all of this hardware was surplused when the agency closed field offices and switched to electronic-sweatshop call centers. It seemed anticlimactic at best. 😉

Theguvnor
Theguvnor
Jun 9, 2021 7:43 AM

EBS trial run?

DaveMass
DaveMass
Jun 9, 2021 7:39 AM

Pipelines did not have to shut down. Control was unaffected. It was only the billing system, but then they wouldnt be able to get paid. Made gas prices spike.
Cui bono?
Now they say they got some crypto back?
Private keys? Wallet location? US servers?!
This is elite panicking to stop a total meltdown of fiat.
Surprised the Russians weren’t blamed…

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 9, 2021 10:45 AM
Reply to  DaveMass

No, it is the ongoing cascade from one crisis to the next, designed to distract you from …. not sure what. But yes, total crap, I would read an article about it only if the author was skilful and amusing.

jude
jude
Jun 9, 2021 7:29 AM

NYT, CNN, Guardian all down. The only people who noticed were the people who worked there…

jimbo
jimbo
Jun 9, 2021 7:29 AM

As Hermann Goering famously explained:
 
The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
 
 
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
—Albert Camus
 
Francis Bacon “Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true.”
 
“There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn’t true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true.“
 
Kierkegaard
 
The Liar strikes back in predictable fashion,mangling meaning and language in a vain attempt to obscure his previous lies.His advisors should be in a cold sweat,after all how much more of this garbage can be foisted onto the public?What about the rest of his party?Are they all complicit in this insulting charade?Is there not one shred of decency or integrity within the LNP? The answer is obvious.They are beneath contempt.

Oscar Wilde on journalism and media
 
“It was a fatal day when the public discovered that the pen is mightier than the paving-stone, and can be made as offensive as the brickbat. They at once sought for the journalist, found him, developed him, and made him their industrious and well-paid servant. It is greatly to be regretted, for both their sakes.

Behind the barricade there may be much that is noble and heroic. But what is there behind the leading-article but prejudice, stupidity, cant, and twaddle? And when these four are joined together they make a terrible force, and constitute the new authority.”
– Oscar Wills Wilde –
(October 16, 1854 – November 30, 1900)

Strength and Honour

Stand Strong

magumba
magumba
Jun 9, 2021 9:28 AM
Reply to  jimbo

I have had the first Goerring quote on a postcard for about 20 years now and it was instrumental in waking me up to what has been happening
Thank you for posting it

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 9, 2021 10:53 AM
Reply to  jimbo

Don’t forget that billionaires are free, they are prepared to defy the law, every law is a removal of freedom. Billionaires, the only way to make that quantity of money is to break the law in order to beat your competitors, who will mostly be honest. I have met a few super rich people and they all have dodgy backgrounds. For example, I know a rich person who started a successful software company by stealing the code from the company he used to work for, passing it through a c++ to java converter, adding some frills then calling it something new, selling it cheap in the market. Now he is a billionaire.

jimbojames
jimbojames
Jun 9, 2021 1:15 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

I upvoted you but I think you should add ‘….lie, cheat and steal from their customers.’

That’s how you do it in America. Forget about competitors, as Carlin said it’s a big club, they share the wealth at the top (and the territory).

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jun 9, 2021 4:56 AM

I struggle to believe it wasn’t engineered.

Back to the usual topic:
Pompeo says “we’re in a live exercise here” followed by Trump saying immediately and calmly “you should have let us know”

Cuomo says “This is not a government exercise that we’re doing here. This is a social exercise”
https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/video-audio-photos-rush-transcript-amid-ongoing-covid-19-pandemic-governor-cuomo-announces-25

Jacinda Ardern says “… for a full two-week period of sustained propaganda”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqEVtGrluaA

Amusing rave version of Jacinda

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 9, 2021 11:49 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

We know who was responsible Petra. The same criminals behind the scamdemic. Did you hear the Pentagon is even talking about UFO sightings🙃
One massive, ongoing pysops. You know about the Cyber Polygon exercise on July 9th?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jun 9, 2021 1:53 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

I just learnt from one of the comments.

swami
swami
Jun 9, 2021 12:20 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Now that they have the people’s attention in dire straits, let us not forget the Representative from the 33rd District of California asking if this was all a damn HOAX!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1240987854194577408

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jun 9, 2021 1:58 PM
Reply to  swami

So interesting that Mike Pompeo didn’t say it wasn’t a hoax. He so easily could have but it was like he was genuinely uncomfortable with the questioning and really didn’t want to say it wasn’t a hoax. Either Ted Lieu is a very good actor and so is Mike Pompeo in this exchange or Ted Lieu is not in on it. One of the few.

karen elliot
karen elliot
Jun 9, 2021 3:54 AM

By the 1980s neoliberal ideology had colonised the minds of many. In medical research the goal of finding a cure for a disease gave way solely to finding a treatment. Treatments as commodities -such as chemical drugs- that are marketable (ie exploitable).. (A few years ago the Investment firm Goldman-Sachs advised its client – ‘dont invest in start-ups looking for cancer cures, there’s no money in cures !’)…

Marketing required standardised diagnostic criteria of symptoms, and standardised (drug) treatments = the DSM (Diagnostic & Statistical Manual)… And we began to hear of ‘syndromes’ – an umbrella term under which diseases which shared common symptoms were lumped together…

One such syndrome created was Autism Spectrum Disorder. (Aside: some lists of the ‘symptom are so wide nearly everyone could claim to be affected.)
There was very little awareness of autism during the 1960-70s, or that, of the few ‘treatments’. psychoanalysis had made a small successful impact. With the lengthening of the list of symptoms a market was created for the many drugs to treat them…

AIDS is one such umbrella term that incorporates prior to its invention stand-alone diseases attributed to immune dysfunction… Having seen off any idea that any emotional disturbance could be a causative factor in any disease, the pharmaceutical industry was free to promote its Genetic model of disease causation…

Lecithin, camomile tea, dandelion, warm olive oil – all cheap, simple remedies for gallstones… There’s no money in them. The money is in million dollar machines, drug treatments…

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 9, 2021 11:01 AM
Reply to  karen elliot

The problem with modern pharma is that it has a lifestyle that depends on rent, and they are not producing enough superior drugs to enable them to benefit from rent. In the past, when pharma was picking the low hanging fruit and there were no off-patent competitors, they could milk it. Now, they are the mafia. They are screwing the US government, but they are paying the politicians. They will be dead if the USA ever tries to balance its budget: parasites.

magumba
magumba
Jun 9, 2021 3:45 AM

Very good video and measured calm response to the whole scheittshow

Brian Gerrish of the UKcolumn and Reiner Fuellmich,sorry but i dont know the name of the Doris with lego hair nor the mute guy in the background.The audio is a bit ropey but well worth sticking with it

https://odysee.com/@TruthWillOut:8/Fuellmich-Gerrish-UKC:3

Peter
Peter
Jun 9, 2021 3:42 AM

Aliens
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NickM
NickM
Jun 9, 2021 9:09 AM
Reply to  Peter

Why is that flaming high-rise toppling over on its side? Everyone knows that when real skyscrapers catch fire they collapse into their own footprint; see video 911.

jimbojames
jimbojames
Jun 9, 2021 1:19 PM
Reply to  NickM

You forget we’re fighting dumb aliens.

Ort
Ort
Jun 9, 2021 9:17 PM
Reply to  NickM

Just a passing nitpick, but if I recall my slo-mo Twin Towers video-watching correctly, at least one of the towers did start to tilt or lean in the earliest phase of the collapse– and then it somehow straightened back up and collapsed neatly into the building’s footprint.

Claret
Claret
Jun 9, 2021 11:15 PM
Reply to  Ort

One of the reasons to question if the footage is real or not.

my parents said know
my parents said know
Jun 9, 2021 4:16 PM
Reply to  Peter

Interesting, isn’t it, that the aliens fly about in a pyramid with an all-seeing eye at the top?
They must be a bunch of bricklayers.

Ort
Ort
Jun 9, 2021 9:14 PM

Oh, is that the alien craft? I assumed it represented the exploded penthouse of the CBS Building!

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my parents said know
my parents said know
Jun 9, 2021 9:33 PM

Bricklayers as in [free]masons, that is. As in Petra’s mentioned below video by Altiyan Childs which is 5 hours long and I watched the whole thing.

Thom 9
Thom 9
Jun 9, 2021 12:00 AM

Lot’s of sites here in Cannuckistan down today including government and courts etc.

les online
les online
Jun 8, 2021 11:25 PM

Brainstorming, thinktanking, anyone ?

Mid-70s Australia: The largest left-wing political grouping, having rejected the USSR model, set itself the task of fleshing-out what it thought an Australian version of actual Socialism might entail…But it crippled its imaginings in advance by imposing on any discussion the idea that the USSR was a model of ‘actually existing socialism.’ It’s embrace a few years later of the Eurocommunist model – ‘the parliamentary road to socialism’ – revealed it’s complete failure of The Imagination.

(Mid-80s: in one of its journals, one of its theorists argued that the term “socialism’ be totally abandoned as it had become confusing, meant different things to different people. Thus it had no rallying ideal to resist the onslaught of neoliberalism)…

1975: Ernest Callenbach’s Ecotopia was published and became an ‘underground classis’.
Whatever the shortcomings of its story, the book could have provided a template for popular discussion of what sort of future we, the people, would like to bring about. Not the dystopian future that that loudmouth at the World Economic Forum has for us – but Many Futures, Many different futures…

Our Rulers believe they own The Future. They hire the Best Brains, gather them together in Think Tanks to imagine ways to ensure they maintain their grip on The Future…

To prevent the Capitalist Dystopian Future from being implemented requires brainstorming, thinktanking, to flesh-out Futures the Proles would rally to… For if there’s any hope of resisting the capitalist onslaught, it lies with the Proles…

(France: May-June ’68. Wall Slogan: “Power to the Imagination !”)

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jun 9, 2021 1:40 PM
Reply to  les online

Also, “Soyez réalistes, demandez l’impossible … “

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 8, 2021 11:23 PM

There are no real cyber attacks. It’s them, testing their systems, for the fake cyber pandemic they will induce later this year. How else are they going to cause a supply chain breakdown, manipulate food prices, energy prices, instigate another banking crisis, and then claim everyone who accesses the internet needs to be part of the blockchain and verified by their ISP, Ie; have zero privacy and attain internet “privileges”? It ties into the social credit system, the global ID, the vaccine passport, biometric data such as one’s finger print ID / facial recognition which will morph into a QR codes for humans. That’s their “mark of the beast” which triggers Christians into believing “the end times” are here therefore they need to do nothing other than ”believe”.

Governments and their corporate partners are the ONLY real criminals. There are no cyber hackers except them. There are no terrorists except them.

Take a look at the MI5 logo and figure it out. The Informational Awareness Office – DARPA logo. The UN logo with its 33 partitions and the laurel wreath underneath, representing the Masonic victory over the global grid. Freemasons run the world and their stock in trade is hoaxes, manifesting illusions, killing for profit, ritual abuse and trauma, and committing crimes against humanity.

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
Jun 9, 2021 1:31 AM
Reply to  Researcher

the only thing I can add – is that, directly finishing reading the above comment – these words, happened from the radio – “I couldn’t agree more”.

Koba
Koba
Jun 9, 2021 2:44 AM
Reply to  Researcher

The CIA etc can attack themselves and make it appear like it came from anywhere they want it to

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 9, 2021 11:07 AM
Reply to  Koba

They have been trained by Mossad. They have no morals, they do not represent the best of their country, they do not represent their country in any way, they are parasites.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jun 9, 2021 5:40 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Freemasons run the world …

Yep. Altiyan Childs was the 2010 Australian X Factor winner and joined the club. He pulled out and points out all the people in media and politics who are obvious members. Who knows whether he’s just one of those “revealing the method” or genuine but my feeling is he’s genuine although I think in a 5-hour video he might have revealed a little more – then again as he wasn’t a high-ranking member himself he wouldn’t be privy to a lot of stuff.

Niles
Niles
Jun 10, 2021 1:02 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Sounds bloody awful. How do I catch a real deadly virus (not covid) something that actually kills?

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 10, 2021 5:06 AM
Reply to  Niles

Since viruses are a construct, not an isolated entity that has ever been proven to cause any illness or disease, even flu, I wouldn’t worry about catching anything.

Pay attention to eating the right foods and staying away from excess toxicity: What Really Makes You Ill.

Edith
Edith
Jun 8, 2021 11:20 PM

I Expect fear to be really ramped from mid July to mid oct 2021…the classic connections of saturn and neptune will push this…and yes with saturn in aquarius ruler of computers I guess they are going to do the play then…aquarius also has a bit to do with freedom so I expect these bloody passports will be part of it….add to the confusion of web going down but the push of wanting to use it to control every detail of our lives,,,of course it couldn’t end in more trouble than enough could it….

supply chains will no doubt get even more disrupted and lead to the eclipse in nov which contains even more death and mayhem than we have seen to date…

Hele
Hele
Jun 9, 2021 4:30 AM
Reply to  Edith

Fuk.When will it end!Or at least ease up for crying out loud!

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 8, 2021 10:10 PM

“Times Up!
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Hey all you seniors still out there who have not yet taken the Billy Eugenics Euthanasia Death Shot Toxic Viral Cull Juice Jab challenge, IT’S TIME. You do not want us to have to send someone out to get you… OH NO DON’T.”

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
Jun 8, 2021 8:49 PM

Well the stuff of nightmares just took a shit on the Canadian prairies:

Manitoba Premier Brian Pallister today announces vaccine passports for all Manitobans are coming. Double dosed citizens will get a digital ID card that will entitle them to specific privileges other Manitobans will be denied. Travel, quarantine exemptions to start.

At no time does he say that these are voluntary.

This is horrible news.

https://youtu.be/AqI4Xbofkck?t=831

https://canucklaw.ca/cv-25f-ottawa-launching-vaccine-passports-at-instigation-of-who-ihr-7th-meeting/

DavidW
DavidW
Jun 8, 2021 9:48 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

According to the press release people will need to “self-isolate” if they take a day trip to Falcon Lake (Ont.) but not for Gimli (MB). Both are about an hour drive from the Peg. This is vile extortion and collective punishment of a population to force people to accede to these dangerous experiments. At this point I would like to see Pallister and Roussin brought before a Nuremberg II tribunal and hear their empty last words “I was just following orders” and then two loud bangs.

Cascadian
Cascadian
Jun 8, 2021 10:55 PM
Reply to  DavidW

Three. Always conclude with one in the head.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
Jun 9, 2021 12:54 AM
Reply to  DavidW

Indeed. They are real life villains …..that look like characters out of a demented fairy tale.

Hele
Hele
Jun 9, 2021 1:11 AM
Reply to  DavidW

I was just talking about taking a road trip to the Peg-guess I’ll go South where the party is!

aspnaz
aspnaz
Jun 9, 2021 12:27 PM
Reply to  DavidW

So why didn’t you go and shoot your elites?

Elites: those of average intelligence who have disappointed their parents but are now wiling to lick shit to get to the top: prime example is Fauci.

Fauci: No doubt a very wealthy man, so we can look forward to his spoilt children being on the idiot box in a few years. I’m thinking Hilton Hotel family and his daughter’s vagina blasted across the internet, what , 30 years ago? Mr Hilton, the crook that made the money, must be so proud!

Shit floats, but you have to remember that these people are crooks, not geniuses: stats tells you there may be one or two geniuses per generation and they don’t go into finance or “business”, whatever that means these days.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 8, 2021 9:49 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

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The question to ask is why aren’t any of those Corporate Fascist Flu-Nazi Criminals dead yet?

DomoebaMalingera
DomoebaMalingera
Jun 9, 2021 7:24 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

That is the problem they are already dead pushing their doomsday agenda, unconscious to the core.

Arby
Arby
Jun 9, 2021 1:05 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Do you mean ‘Why aren’t they physically dead yet?’

Chevrus
Chevrus
Jun 9, 2021 2:44 PM
Reply to  Arby

I see what you did there….it’s all in the soulless eyes

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Jun 8, 2021 11:27 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

Canada maintaining its position as pacesetter in the Covid Baloney Descent Into Utter Madness Stakes and all this achieved in the face of some very fierce competition, from many parts of the world. So well done Canada.

ToyAussie
ToyAussie
Jun 9, 2021 2:03 AM

we’re three lengths ahead going into the clubhouse turn in the race to the bottom

Arby
Arby
Jun 9, 2021 1:03 PM
Reply to  ToyAussie

Canuck Law is an awesome resource. But it’s not for the feint of heart.

Jesper
Jesper
Jun 8, 2021 8:36 PM

Eeer, what outage? By all means, take it all out. Don’t give one iota. Glad to get rid of it if that’s the case.

Cascadian
Cascadian
Jun 8, 2021 8:30 PM

Both of the highlighted opinions in the UPDATE above are nonsense.

  1. we have no information as to the root cause of the outage – massive black holes in router infrastructure? corrupted routing tables? catastrophic failure of root servers?
  2. exactly what do they mean by concentration of servers? Have they never heard of redundancy? The servers are not just one amorphous mass, they organized in a very structured manner with a particular eye on redundancy – e.g. server farms. We are being asked to believe that all those servers in many separately located data centres went down en-mass? Bullshit!! I used to work in IT and was involved in many redundant installation projects.
  3. The WEB sits in the application layer, above TCP and above IP.

We have no idea what went wrong because they are not telling us – so we should take any pronouncements such as from The Times and Digital3 with a large barrel of salt. And who funds Digital3?

RobG
RobG
Jun 8, 2021 8:24 PM

It’s like watching a bad movie: the script is so predictable/obvious that as well as being terrifying it’s also quite funny.

Cascadian
Cascadian
Jun 8, 2021 10:59 PM
Reply to  RobG

“so predictable/obvious” only if you have Hollywood based American writers.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Jun 9, 2021 10:21 AM
Reply to  RobG

I’m just waiting for the fake alien invasion to begin Rob😜 Whoever the script writers are, they’re doing a helluva bad job…

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 8, 2021 7:53 PM

“What this shows among other things is the foolishness of basing all of human society on the computer. The computer is merely a tool, an implement, not a way of life. When the power grid goes, society is left in the dark.”
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“Klaus Schwab and his Davos gang criminal ilk are corporate fascist hucksters, mountebanks, flim-flammers, snake-oilers, charlatans, scammers and racketeers. But most importantly they are morons.”

Cascadian
Cascadian
Jun 8, 2021 8:33 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

That I would agree with, but not for the reasons given by The Times et al. Too much is being digitised with no lower technology back able to be used in case of loss. The issue is the same as that involved with backing up a computer’s storage (to make an analogy) – if it isn’t possible to recover from the backup, then what is the point of the backup?

Another Carrington level event will, given the current lack of provision for dealing with it, put us back decades and possibly centuries.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 9, 2021 9:47 AM
Reply to  Cascadian

It will take years to replace one of the largest transformers that got fried.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Jun 8, 2021 11:30 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

And arseholes.

Frances
Frances
Jun 9, 2021 12:42 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

And, very dangerous morons.

Wraith
Wraith
Jun 8, 2021 7:45 PM

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niko
niko
Jun 8, 2021 7:44 PM

Cyber Polygon Narrative Rapidly Picking Up SteamThe next shoe to drop in Technocracy’s coup d’etat is to declare war on cyber criminals. The current news cycle is full of stories about cyber security and politicians are reciting the talking points like parrots in a pet store.
read more…ZeroHedge: Cyber/Crypto Crooks To Be Equated As TerroristsFor the pending war on cyber crime, two birds will be killed with one stone. First, Internet privacy will evaporate, permitting total invasion of your private life. Second, transparency for crypto currency will be abolished, allowing tracking of every conceivable financial transaction.
read more…Power Grid: Energy Secretary Warns Of Crippling CyberattacksAs fear mongering on cyber security gains traction, as is the case right now, you can be certain that there are other disingenuous motives to promote Technocrat goals in hopes of capturing the world into a Scientific Dictatorship.
read more…

Edith
Edith
Jun 8, 2021 11:00 PM
Reply to  niko

Police already boasting about taking out a gang here in aust using Internet..seems to have taken them a while to get around to it all actually….but I expect to hear a heap more in coming months.

niko
niko
Jun 8, 2021 7:42 PM

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/02/investigative-reports/from-event-201-to-cyber-polygon-the-wefs-simulation-of-a-coming-cyber-pandemic/

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From “Event 201” to “Cyber Polygon”: The WEF’s Simulation of a Coming “Cyber Pandemic” – unlimitedhangout.com
Last year, the World Economic Forum teamed up with the Russian government and global banks to run a high-profile cyberattack simulation that targeted the financial industry, an actual event that would pave the way for a “reset” of the global economy. The simulation, named Cyber Polygon, may have been more than a typical planning exercise and bears similarities to the WEF-sponsored pandemic …
unlimitedhangout.com

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Jun 8, 2021 11:33 PM
Reply to  niko

You couldn’t make this stuff up, but anyway we don’t have to.

Arby
Arby
Jun 8, 2021 7:34 PM
  • Will this outage be blamed on a cyber-attack?
  • If so, who will be blamed?

Who do the fascist authorities not like? When they blame the anti-covid 1084 crowd, note, they will make their accusations sound plausible even though we will see them, rightly, as nonsense. But you can do nothing about hate.

Dante
Dante
Jun 9, 2021 12:42 AM
Reply to  Arby

Blame Russia
Case closed
Attack!!!

Anis Shivani
Anis Shivani
Jun 8, 2021 7:05 PM

Just a test run to get complete control of the Internet. They’ve already censored nearly all the objectionable stuff, but it’s not enough. You will soon need a biometric ID to log on to the internet anywhere in the world. Sept. 11 = Real ID. Covid = vaccine passports. Cyberwarfare = biometric ID.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 8, 2021 7:18 PM
Reply to  Anis Shivani

Welcome, Anis. Good to see you here.

It certainly seems like a bare-faced plan.

Anis Shivani
Anis Shivani
Jun 9, 2021 6:50 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Thank you. I’ve been a great fan of this site and have been spreading the word around for a while.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 9, 2021 12:05 AM
Reply to  Anis Shivani

Fortunately, somebody who is not a psychopath will invent an alternative means of communicating human thoughts – maybe something like a book, for example…?

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 9, 2021 9:54 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Perhaps carrying notes on paper will itself be treated as suspicious.

Arby
Arby
Jun 9, 2021 1:10 PM
Reply to  mgeo

No doubt. I’m postering a lot now. Let’s see how far that gets. Thankfully, they are ‘opening’ up a bit here in Ontario on Friday. That means I can buy staples for my staple gun. I think I’ll pop into Doug Ford’s twitter account and thank him. I know. I’m poking the gangster bear. What can I say?

Chevrus
Chevrus
Jun 9, 2021 2:48 PM
Reply to  Anis Shivani

Simply put and pretty much spot on…

Tee ell
Tee ell
Jun 8, 2021 6:59 PM

Human error. Someone messed up a config change and then it was hard to revert.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 8, 2021 7:09 PM
Reply to  Tee ell

The Cable Guy used to laugh at us: Is it plugged in?

30 years later we’re even less intelligent: just update, run the update, if it still doesn’t work, upgrayed.

Just buy another one.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 9, 2021 10:06 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

With growing illiteracy and cutting of corners, printed instructions have become scarce, and what is available online incomplete or incoherent.

Tee ell
Tee ell
Jun 9, 2021 8:27 AM
Reply to  Tee ell

I wonder how many of the downvoters have themselves managed the implementation of complex distributed network infrastructure?

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 9, 2021 10:01 AM
Reply to  Tee ell

Agree. Such a change may be (a) unauthorised or unreviewed rectification (b) done in a rush or when overloaded/exhausted. As the bean-counters demand more cutting of corners and wages, such disasters have been and will be inevitable. Working at insecure jobs in silos, tech. staff are reluctant or too harried to write down critical procedures – for themselves (to repeat later) or their colleagues (to complement the change).

Big al
Big al
Jun 8, 2021 6:41 PM

Relative to is it possible this was an accident? Aw come on. What have we learned lately? Hell, anything is possible, but why even go there at this point?

Big al
Big al
Jun 8, 2021 6:36 PM

It’s gonna be like taking candy from a baby.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jun 8, 2021 6:31 PM

Either the banks admit that money is created out of nothing or they say that hackers have stolen it all… No prizes for guessing which.

Sean Veeda
Sean Veeda
Jun 8, 2021 6:20 PM

Who will be blamed?

Well, ‘fastly’ is a bit like ‘bigly’. I reckon Trump dunnit.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jun 8, 2021 5:44 PM

There may be sinister agents behind it but the most likely explanation is a botched software update or messed up routing information. There was also an undersea landslide yesterday that disrupted network traffic to parts of Africa. This won’t have caused the outage but its an example of how ‘stuff happens’ all the time — the Internet is man-made and is not infallible.

Large scale outages is one of the problems that come from moving “to the cloud”. Websites used to be hosted on individual servers or relatively small server farms which kept faults localized. In the last decade or so server farms have scaled up to giant data centers which not only host websites but also allow users to emulate entire corporate networks. The advantage is scalability and reliability — you can have as much power as you want (and can pay for). The disadvantage is that when something does go wrong the failure is also large scale, it can affect directly and indirectly thousands upon thousands of sites. When it does happen, though, the business is so large that enormous resources are devoted to finding and fixing the problem so things are down for only a limited amount of time.

That pipeline hack was a routine attack, albeit with a bit of a twist. I was informed by someone ‘in the trade’ that the attackers had previously compromised the servers of insurance companies so they knew who to target. The actual attack was through a simple email phish — a bait email with an enticing message and “click for more”. Someone did and it enabled the download of a malicious payload. We’re all instructed not to click on links from unknown sources but apparently the message still has to sink in with some of the worst offenders being senior management. Anyway, this hack didn’t so much take down the pipeline as the business system — its not that fuel couldn’t be delivered but rather the people getting it couldn’t be billed.

Its common practice to finger ‘state actors’ in these hacks but the reality is that this is a business, a criminal business that’s typically conducted in the back room of a legitimate looking operation. I’m pleased that law enforcement has finally woken up to this being a problem and started taking a more aggressive stance towards these criminals.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 9, 2021 10:31 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Other factors: speed of changes in technology, gigantism, cutting of corners, pressure on staff making changes, poor-quality documentation, selection of new component or architechure without consulting in-house users or tech. staff.

Chevrus
Chevrus
Jun 9, 2021 2:52 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Such insight….so now we know./s

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 8, 2021 5:39 PM

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“Welcome to Corporate Fascist Gestapo State Melbourne, Australia.”

https://twitter.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1401808257790791683

Where Flu Nazi Psychopaths rule and Crimes Against Humanity are all the rage.”

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 8, 2021 5:40 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

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