213

India’s lockdown may already have killed more people than “Covid”, and it will only get worse.

Chase Reed

Licensed through Adobe Stock

“Happiness cannot be traveled to, owned, earned, worn or consumed. Happiness is the spiritual experience of living every minute with love, grace, and gratitude.Denis Waitley

India has a total population of 1.39 billion people . That is 18 percent of the total world population. The median annual per capita income is $616 . Hundreds of millions of people in India survive with a hand to mouth existence.

They work and earn a couple of dollars, and eat once they have earned the money. India has little or no social welfare system. For many people, if they don’t work and earn, they don’t eat.

In 2020, India reported 148,738 deaths due to the coronavirus. That equates to 0.01% of the population. The average death rate in India in 2020 was 7.25 in 1000 of the population.

That means over 10 million people died in India in 2020, and only 1.5% were coronavirus deaths.

And that is assuming that the 148,738 coronavirus deaths reported were actually caused by coronavirus. The WHO guidelines for reporting deaths do not make clear the difference between dying ‘from’ coronavirus, and dying ‘with’ coronavirus.

At the end of March 2020, the India Government took the drastic action of locking down the Indian economy due to the coronavirus pandemic. The government took decisions as to whom they considered an ‘essential worker’ and who was considered ‘non-essential’.

Unlike its Western Government counterparts, the Indian government did not hand out $600 monthly cheques for those that it had determined to be ‘non-essential’ and told to stay at home and not work. And the initial enforcement of the lockdowns was pretty draconian.

Early last April I received a desperate plea from an associate who lives in the slums in Mumbai. His house is 20 square metres, and he lives with 7 of his family members.

He messaged me to say that he was locked down at home with his family and that they had no food and were starving. Could I please send him some money? The next day he called me and said:

Sir, thank you for sending the money. I tried to go out yesterday to buy rations but the police beat me with a lathi and would not let me out of the slum. We now have money but I cannot get outside to buy food.”

I had to intervene and request a friend who had a journalist pass and was considered an ‘essential worker’ to go and buy food and take the food into the slum for him and his family so that they would not starve to death.

They were the lucky ones.

A survey was carried out of the urban poor by a company called IDinsight, a market research firm in the social sector in India. They reported that the respondents that they surveyed had an average weekly income of ₹6858 ($93.6) in March 2020 and ₹1929 ($26.3) in May 2020. That is a 72% reduction in income from a very low base. And the percentage of respondents that reported having no work went up from 7.3% in March to 23.6% in May.

Another research agency called Dalberg reported that the percentage of respondents with no work in May was 52%.

It is a real struggle to understand why the Indian government would shut down large parts of the Indian economy and put potentially hundreds of millions of poor people’s lives at risk of starvation by locking them in their houses because a tiny fraction of the population has caught a flu virus.

There is little or no data available on the numbers of people who have died from starvation. Although, a study was done two years ago which found over 450,000 children alone died as a result of malnutrition in 2017. Those numbers will only have gone up thanks to lockdown.

It is therefore anybody’s guess as to how many of the poor in India have died.

When the dust settles, I would expect that more people will die from starvation in India, than from the coronavirus in the whole world. And there is very little information being collected or reported on it.

The situation on the ground for food distribution in 2021 is reported to be worse than 2020. The Indian food distribution system of getting produce from farm to table is highly inefficient at its best. The lockdowns were reported locally to have amplified the inefficiencies in the food supply chain manyfold.

The issue of potential starvation could become an even greater issue in 2021 as the lockdowns continue. Without data on starvation, the stories remain anecdotal. I have a serious fear that when the coronavirus hysteria blows over, we will discover in its wake, a huge tragedy of mass starvation in India.

David Beasley, executive director of the UNs World Food Programme made a statement on global starvation in April 2021.

We were already calculating 135 million people around the world before COVID marching to the brink of starvation. And now, with the new analysis with COVID, we’re looking at 260 million people, and I’m not talking about hungry. I’m talking about marching toward starvation. And that is a catastrophe in itself.”

NOTE: This piece was subject to a minor correction on 19/06/21. Previously, the 148,738 “Covid deaths” were listed as 0.0001% of India’s population, when in fact it is 0.01%.

can you spare $1.00 a month to support independent media

Unlike the Guardian we are NOT funded by Bill & Melinda Gates, or any other NGO or government. So a few coins in our jar to help us keep going are always appreciated.

Our Bitcoin JTR code is: 1JR1whUa3G24wXpDyqMKpieckMGGW2u2VX

5 42 votes
Article Rating
Subscribe
Notify of
guest
213 Comments
newest
oldest
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
JoJo
JoJo
Jun 29, 2021 10:13 PM

I believe that India has turned ‘covid’ round by widespread use of Invermectin. Why is no one talking about it?

NandorTheRelentless
NandorTheRelentless
Jun 21, 2021 5:10 PM

Elysium, (already) coming to a country near you!

NandorTheRelentless
NandorTheRelentless
Jun 21, 2021 5:08 PM

Sounds like Modi & co. are ‘thinning the herd’

NickM
NickM
Jun 21, 2021 7:49 AM

“The median annual per capita income is $616 .”

That’s $2 per day. Fifty years ago it was a dollar a day. A
dollar bought more in those days. Living standards have gone down in “the world’s largest democracy”.

Where is Chairman Mao when you need him?

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jun 21, 2021 1:11 AM

great article , a pinch of reality offered to those who are trapped within the covid delusion

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jun 20, 2021 11:17 PM

In fairness I think India has a lot more to worry about health-wise than Covid or lockdowns.

NickM
NickM
Jun 21, 2021 8:12 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

Correct: Con-19 is not the only $cam India has to worry about health-wise. Poverty breeds malnutrition which breeds ill health. Lack of sanitatary infrastructure breeds ill health.

The Modi regime has deserted the non-aligned Resistance and joined the Anglo Zio Capitalist camp. Thereby Con-signed its population to AZC Con-spiracies such as Con-19 and Con-B3, all designed to generate internal strife, preparations for external war (against China) increasing poverty for the poor and increasing wealth for the wealthy.

Whatever happened to the Communist party in Kerala province?

Mike Rogers
Mike Rogers
Jun 20, 2021 5:18 PM

0,75% average annual death rate; 0.01% annual deaths from Covid-19.
The government still has not escaped its socialist (tyrannical) roots

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Jun 21, 2021 1:16 AM
Reply to  Mike Rogers

it has been argued convincingly that historically India was the birth place of what is now called capitalism and most other economic systems millennia ago ! A vulture that has come home to roost ?

NickM
NickM
Jun 21, 2021 8:17 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Yes, debt slavery trapping a family from generation to generation was already established in India, from what I read 70 years ago.

Now coming to the EU$A courtesy of QE and Con-B3.

Wil
Wil
Jun 20, 2021 4:41 PM

The Great Reset is moving along nicely…. “Population Cleansing” will help the Global Ruling Elite eliminate a larger percentage of “Useless Eaters”to hold the Planet’s systems together for another decade until Musk can get their low-orbit “Homes” in place….

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Jun 20, 2021 2:29 AM

“It is a real struggle to understand why the Indian government would shut down large parts of the Indian economy and put potentially hundreds of millions of poor people’s lives at risk of starvation by locking them in their houses because a tiny fraction of the population has caught a flu virus.”

Really? It’s not a struggle for me at all and I am not that bright. Perhaps you should re-evaluate your basic assumptions.

“David Beasley, executive director of the UNs World Food Programme made a statement on global starvation in April 2021.”

Crocodile tears from the belly of the Rockefeller beast.

Ute
Ute
Jun 21, 2021 8:27 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

And German Chanclor Merkel was there before, gave Modi Government much money development help!!.Why not GB…why Germany? Never befor they engaged in problems in India… I argue, she gave money that he follows this WEF agenda and Rockefellers plan to kill the useless eaters without seeing but “in front of all eyes”( like with old peoples in Germany with vaxxinations too, now they want vaxx the little childs…the futur of our country)..( Call it then Corona related death, while bad government decicions leeds to this…with full willing!… I think…yes! Only the Leaders of Africa ( not South) did not follow blind this Agenda…and died… often, like in Tanzania or Madagaskar…this came obvious for us…should be warning to others!

Blessthebeasts
Blessthebeasts
Jun 19, 2021 7:56 PM

I remember seeing workers (on TV) forced to leave the cities of India to return to their villages where there were absolutely no resources for them and their families. I wonder how many of these were victims of starvation rather than covid.

Geo Music
Geo Music
Jun 21, 2021 1:21 PM
Reply to  Blessthebeasts

There are no ‘covid victims’, it’s some other thing in every case.

October
October
Jun 19, 2021 7:10 PM
magumba
magumba
Jun 20, 2021 6:26 AM
Reply to  October

I think a better question would be ‘how many cases brought before the UK courts in the last 15 months have made any change whatsoever’

Then ponder on the definition of insanity regarding doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time

sandy
sandy
Jun 19, 2021 6:46 PM

So the Statista Deaths by All Causes 1950-2018 is wrong. Drasticaly wrong , over 10% less deaths per year from 2009 to 2018. For instance I know CDC deaths 2018 are 2,813,000 with population at 325 million. That’s .87% death rate, not .73% they show. This kind of error everywhere in 21st C publishing has turned this era into a postmodern nightmare for the 99% trying to piece together reality.

magumba
magumba
Jun 20, 2021 6:30 AM
Reply to  sandy

Sorry Sandy but the minute i see any post littered with figures and perm any 8 from 10 my eyes glaze over and i get a mental bloc of stupendous proportions

The time for numerical analysis is over,the only figures that count now are the deaths from vaccines and adverse events

Green Lantern
Green Lantern
Jun 19, 2021 5:50 PM

The globalist in the world Economic Forum and the WHO And the Gates Foundation I believe, don’t care HOW people die, as long as they die, we die, they are obviously very elated.

sandy
sandy
Jun 19, 2021 5:47 PM

Also, an interesting and perplexing stat, the .75% India death rate is less than the last 10 year US average death rate of about .83% which will have risen to 1% in 2020 due to the 300k excess deaths last year. Amazingly the US has a rather high death rate in comparison with the rest of the world. The US had 1.4% yearly deaths in 1950 dropping to 1% in 1980. 2020 will equal 1980 death rate, so relatively not so bad.

So this raises a question. Was the last 10 yr. US death rate at an all time low (.83%) we will never reach again because baby boomers, those over 65 are 14% of the population and are statistically at end lifespan en masse? In 1900 only about 4% of US population was over 65. Seems to me a “bubble” of elderly, me included, ready to go. I still do not understand why US death rate is higher than worldwide over the same period.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/805069/death-rate-worldwide/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/189670/death-rates-for-all-causes-in-the-us-since-1950/

ConstantBees
ConstantBees
Jun 19, 2021 6:22 PM
Reply to  sandy

Risk factors for covid include old age and obesity. Diabetes and other metabolic issues only compound that. As you say, the US has 14% of the population over 65, hence vulnerable. Large parts of the rest of the population are obese, diabetic or both. I’ve moved back and forth between the US and the UK several times over the past 10 years and have been shocked at the decline in health of people in both countries, but especially the US. Processed and fast foods have taken their toll on people’s health and it shows.

But as the author says, the deaths from starvation in India will undoubtedly outnumber US (and UK) deaths.

Coos Palmboom
Coos Palmboom
Jun 19, 2021 9:07 PM
Reply to  sandy

India apparently has a fast growing young population. In a stable population where people die at 80 you would expect 1.25%.

ttshasta
ttshasta
Jun 20, 2021 2:47 AM
Reply to  sandy

Mom’s friend couldn’t sleep, mom tried to convince her to go walking together, she wouldn’t do it, rather take a pill.
People eat 6 hot dogs and get heartburn; change your diet, no take a pill.
People with high blood pressure could exercise and change diet to stop it; no take a pill to stop symptoms.
USA is 5% of global population but take maybe 50% of global scrip drugs.
We don’t much treat disease, we lazily take drugs for the symptoms.

Sa6re
Sa6re
Jun 20, 2021 12:40 PM
Reply to  ttshasta

Exactly. That’s Pharmaceutical Allopathic Medicine and it isn’t medicine at all, it is an atomistic quantified interpretation of health, a fundamental narrow and corrupt understanding of the human body system in its entirety. The body works and heals as a Whole, the part affects the whole, the whole affects the part. The digestive system is the beginning of healing. HEAL THE GUT. If you need Coffee, drink good coffee without micro-toxins. If you need sugar, eat good sugar like honey. If you need a beer, drink organic small brewery beer or make it. SYNTHESIZED CHEMICALS KILL.

Joe Van Steenbergen
Joe Van Steenbergen
Jun 19, 2021 5:43 PM

Question remains: Why? Even though some governments seem to be enamored with lockdowns, ample evidence exists to show that they do not work to slow or stop the spread of a virus. Even the WHO recommends against them, and still governments continue to institute lockdowns whenever their populations experience even a nominal increase in “cases.” What, then, are the ulterior motives, unless governments are using lockdowns to cull the herd, so to speak (which would be barbaric in the extreme, but not barbaric enough for some sociopathic “leaders”). When the dust settles, if it ever does, will we ever learn what prompted these people to treat their populations like so many expendable mouths to feed?

BIOLOGY EXPERT
BIOLOGY EXPERT
Jun 19, 2021 6:16 PM

c’mon man……this is not incompetence. THE GREAT RESET is the reason, basically Techno fascism. There is no new virus only a PCR test pandemic.

Joe Van Steenbergen
Joe Van Steenbergen
Jun 19, 2021 8:42 PM
Reply to  BIOLOGY EXPERT

Yes, I understand all that. I just still have difficulty wrapping my arms around the fact that these Great Reset people have so little empathy for others. I know these people exist, but seeing what they do still boggles my mind.

Carol Taylor
Carol Taylor
Jun 20, 2021 9:35 PM

Joe, do you not comprehend the idea of Psychopaths? Look up books on the subject.They are about 4 % of our population and often rice to positions of power because they HAVE NO CONSCIENCE. What could you achieve in this world if you have no conscience? Anything. You murder people and sleep like a baby. Grasp that and perhaps you will gain a bit of understanding as to who rules the world.

David Macilwain
David Macilwain
Jun 20, 2021 1:03 AM

You make a very valid point – and we must ask who it was that actually first decided on this insane idea of locking UP the population instead of quarantining those who were sick – as has been the case with all previous disease epidemics. It’s hard to see any way round this question than the answer below – “it’s the Great Reset stupid!” and ask the question “cui bono?” But there is also the question of Who likes it? – as it seems that many people in the Zoom to Work classes DO like it, and will continue to “work” from their safe little cubicles in their air-filtered and COVID-safe homes, taking occasional breaks to take pot-shots at passing maskless untermenschen enjoying their freedom in the sun and fresh air.
Truly we have been taken over by the Rough Beast.

Sa6re
Sa6re
Jun 20, 2021 12:55 PM

It is a futility to try to understand a persons evil deed. They may even have been convinced it was not evil but necessary. A psychopath is sometimes emotionless, so they do not act out of emotion, they act out of a need for power. They have no conscience to affect their decision. It all comes back to compassion, and I feel western cultures have lost much of their true compassion for pseudo-idealism. They give to charity not out of a genuine understanding of compassion but out of a felt duty, which isn’t all bad, but its not the powerful society cleaner that compassion brings and trauma in the society does not get healed and turns into neurosis.

So most people in UK for instance don’t really understand what felt self-compassion is, and if you can’t feel compassion for yourself, you don’t understand it truly. Governments must have genuine compassion to some degree or they become pathological entities. As the dalai lama said in 2009: ‘You (Europeans) have developed great intelligence in mind and technology but now you need to develop your heart’.

And he said in 2019: ‘The problems in Europe are emotional problems’.

ThinkTwice
ThinkTwice
Jun 19, 2021 5:40 PM

comment image

sandy
sandy
Jun 19, 2021 5:02 PM

Slight mistake. 148K deaths is .01% (.0001). Gotta watch out for that one.

wow_minute!
wow_minute!
Jun 19, 2021 5:22 PM
Reply to  sandy

Hum …

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 19, 2021 1:39 PM

India has little or no social welfare system.

This is the case for the bulk of people everywhere. Are the inernational experts and national leaders unaware of this?

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Jun 19, 2021 1:25 PM

If only HUNGER was a piece of RNA!

In the meantime…
comment image

Joe Van Steenbergen
Joe Van Steenbergen
Jun 19, 2021 5:45 PM
Reply to  Voz 0db

What a coincidence; I watched this just last night. Excellent film. Who knew it would also be so prescient?

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 20, 2021 10:00 PM

Perhaps the authors of the script knew…

I enjoyed the movie anyway, but it could have been part of preparing us for this current, final fling of the desperate.
After ‘swine flu’, and now this, we really mustn’t give them yet another chance.

dr death
dr death
Jun 19, 2021 11:54 AM

‘It is a real struggle to understand why the Indian government would shut down large parts of the Indian economy and put potentially hundreds of millions of poor people’s lives at risk of starvation.’

it’s a real struggle trying to understand people who ‘struggle’ with understanding the ‘obvious’…

-CO
-CO
Jun 19, 2021 12:29 PM
Reply to  dr death

You’re right on it DrD, but sometimes the ‘obvious’ is not so obvious to the uninitiated. They probably truly believe it’s part of measures that are going to somehow “protect” and “save” them from the progeny of ghosts aka “delta variants” that will descend upon them if nothing is done to prevent “contagion” when that happens. The question is, what is really going on out there? I think some of you here will already know the answer to that.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 20, 2021 10:03 PM
Reply to  -CO

I’ll be hard on people here.
There is the ignorance which comes from not being initiated, but there is also the ignorance which comes from keeping your mind closed and not bothering to consider different viewpoints.

It is hardly to be expected that the general public will be aware of some things which initiates in, say, occult societies might have discovered.
But any normal person can choose whether to listen to contrary arguments, or just press the OFF switch.

-CO
-CO
Jun 21, 2021 10:47 AM
Reply to  wardropper

I remember W, when all this started there were very few people on this forum who accepted counter arguments that refuted the physical existence of SARS-CoV -2. Some are still quite adamant that this ghost virus exists but never provide any evidence or scientific proof to substantiate their claim that stands up to scrutiny.

Gradually, some, not all began to smell a rat 🐀 and put two and two together, did some research and began to realise that the so-called global pandemic was,
and still is a fabricated silent weapon launched to achieve certain global objectives based on this incoherent theoretical ghost virus.

You said in another post:

“I would like to see a whole society growing a spine and saying. ‘Enough’, but we can’t do that without serious moral guidance. The spiritual dimension to what is going on can no longer be ignored. This is an actual battle for our souls, make no mistake.”

I agree entirely with that statement.But we are up against the majority who believe that the moral guidance they ‘receive’ is right and proper.

This refers to those who genuinely accept the virus, vaccine and pandemic etc as the truth at face value and without question. Whereas, the rest who do not accept it on moral, scientific and other grounds are still in the minority.

To be realistic, what we need is not always what we get, and if the majority stick firmly to the belief in their own “moral guidance” we will be in for more of crap that’s already been inflicted upon us.

One thing is for certain. If the majority people do not change from within and recognise the problem they currently face, then there’s not much chance of changing the situation as it stands from without!

After all and as you aptly point out, this is also “an actual battle for our souls, make no mistake”.

Geo Music
Geo Music
Jun 21, 2021 1:49 PM
Reply to  -CO

It cannot change because the majority have deposited their faith in man and not in God. The more a society forsake God the more they will depend on the state.
So, now more than prioritasing spiritual needs most prioratise material needs, and the state always promises to provide that in spades; that’s why they always throw about words like fairness, equality, community, safety and so on.
People like comfort and wellbeing, so knowing the Truth is not that important if life is somewhat comfortable.
Like it was said in the Bible ‘they will only hear what their itching ears want to hear.’

-CO
-CO
Jun 22, 2021 10:28 AM
Reply to  Geo Music

Spirit is just another word for life and consciousness in esoteric philosophy. Without that we would not be able to prioritize anything. The truth is we are in deep shit if nothing whatsoever is done to change our soul disposition. Being comfortable and complacent has largely got us into this mess and unfortunately we have now started to reap what we have already sown over a long period of time. Time to CHANGE.

-CO
-CO
Jun 19, 2021 11:43 AM

Dear friends, here we are again on yet another thread discussing aspects of this fraudulently constructed global scamdemic.

For all its worth I pay tribute to all those who have been trying their hardest to convince all doubting Thomases that the emperor really has no clothes.

The emperor being the infamous SARS-COV -2 the very instigator of what is now the scamdemic at least according to TPTB. Now we are being informed that this ‘ghost virus’ has somehow become pregnant and has spawned alpha, beta, gamma and delta ‘variants’ more deadlier than the original progenitor virus whose physical existence cannot be proven or explained by science to this very day.

The problem is most people still believe this crap which means that and TPTB know it and they will keep on producing these ‘ghost variants’ to justify more vaccines, lock-downs, mask-wearing and other behaviour modification and control measures until their totalitarian regime and all that goes with it, is fully implemented.

-CO
-CO
Jun 19, 2021 11:52 AM
Reply to  -CO

SARS-COV -2 has now become immortal and will carry on being chemically active in and through its variants – that’s the cryptic message from the TPTB.

Edwige
Edwige
Jun 19, 2021 1:41 PM
Reply to  -CO

It’s the more profound deception of ‘germ theory’ that’s prepped people for the SARS-COV2 deception. Believing that are diseases caused by tiny pathogens rather than diseased conditions from the sea of toxicity we’ve been drowned in is the underlying problem.

The failings of germ theory are many and manifest. People carry the germs and don’t get ill – science can’t explain it; people carry the same germs: some get some symptoms and some get others – science can’t explain it; people carry the same germs and some don’t ill for decades – science can’t explain it; how does pathogen infection transmute into symptoms – science can’t explain it. Apparently only lunatics wonder if maybe the causitive element has been wrongly identified. This isn’t of course anti-science, it’s to prefer a different scientist, to prefer Bechamp’s terrain theory over Pasteur and his germs.

We are drowned in toxicity. No single source is toxic enough to be proved liable but there is a cumulative ocean from our food, our clothing, our cleaning products, our devices and much more. The solution if we start to develop diseased conditions is toxic medicines.

There is virtually no analysis of cumulative toxicity in mainstream science. There is no central list of carcinogens. The vast majority of new chemicals are untested for safety. The vast majority of chemicals are not tested for synergistic effects when combined with other chemicals. Why would these things be if they care so much about our health?

Toxicity manifests itself in various diseased conditions depending on the nature, timing and duration of our exposure. That these “diseases” keep “infecting” the body’s de-toxification organs (lungs, skin, liver, kidneys) and producing effects of the body trying to detox itself (vomiting, sweating, the shits, inflammation, skin erruptions) is a bit of a giveaway. Medicine tries to suppress these processes and makes a bad situation worse. Our greater proneness to disease as we age is a reflection of how much toxicity we’ve built up during our lives.

-CO
-CO
Jun 19, 2021 5:36 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Yes I agree our bodies have to deal with a constant input and output of environmental toxins from, food, water, drugs and other xenobiotics or EM radiation in addition to our own internal production of metabolic wastes. Any disruption in the elimination of these intoxicants can be an important causal factor in either a preclinical or a clinical disease.

Research has been underway for some time now that threatens the paradigm which is based on germ theory and viruses and TPTB do not like it one bit. Alternative theories in medical schools and universities are hardly ever taught.

The Internet is also awash with alternative medicine debunkers who try to bamboozle the public into believing that it’s just a load of woo and based on pseudoscience.

Student doctors have to keep in line otherwise their proposed career as a doctor will end before it begins.

Because their are always multiple causes involved in the development of what appears to be a particular ‘infectious disease’ they have nevertheless opted for the easy way out regarding an explanation due to a single cause. Nobody, questions that even those who call themselves scientists. Even more so the public.

I had a brief conversation today where the virus question was raised and put my foot in it!

The person acknowledged that the pandemic was a scam but was adamant that it was caused by a virus. I said that there was no convincing scientific evidence to confirm that the virus actually exists.

The response was ” I don’t care, something is causing it and I believe it’s caused by a virus and you can believe what you want to believe”. I said “It’s not a question of belief it’s a question of the scientific facts”. The reply was “I don’t care!”.

A biblical quote came to mind sometime later for some reason (perhaps I’m losing the plot! Or perhaps a warning), nevertheless here it is:

“Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye pearls before swine, lest they happily trample them under their feet, and turn and rend you”.

whatsapp
whatsapp
Jun 19, 2021 6:37 PM
Reply to  -CO

I understand you well.. this same reaction was from my relatives i explained them everything they even accepted but yet they still believe that there is something, they even asked: “so is that a powerful flu virus??” the lie is so impregnated in their minds.

-CO
-CO
Jun 19, 2021 8:12 PM
Reply to  whatsapp

Yes, Whatsapp, it’s stuck like snot to a cinder, as my late grandmother used to say. The problem is, the majority can’t think for themselves – they have allowed the state ideological apparatuses to provide their means of thought.

With regard to germ theory in particular, they are not allowed to think beyond a single cause for an infection it’s either a virus, a bacterium or a fungus for example, as they seem to be the most popular and easy to understand. It’s too difficult to figure out and determine the complex multiple causes at work. Both Hitler and Dr Gobbles knew that all too well.

TPTB have monopolised the playing field for their own ends and have betrayed and deceived the people who have been tricked into accepting their theories and ideas right across the board. Dissidents who see through the crap are tolerated to prove that there’s still a thing called free speech which is just an expression of thought. But the tolerance only goes so far.

So those who own the gold not only make the rules but also the rules as to what can and will be acceptable by them in social, scientific, political, economic, legal, cultural etc consensus realities they have largely constructed and maintained mainly to serve their own self interests.

John Milton
John Milton
Jun 20, 2021 7:45 AM
Reply to  -CO

Hey. So whenever my son gets a cold, a few days later my wife does too.

How does this occur if it isn’t a transferrable pathogen?

-CO
-CO
Jun 20, 2021 10:37 AM
Reply to  John Milton

That will depend entirely on the effects of the prevailing internal conditions of both your wife and of your son and the effects of the external conditions in which the colds occur.

The effects of those conditions will vary between different individuals depending on susceptibility and a host of other potential constitutional and pathophysiological factors, and defences that mainstream science largely chooses to ignore.

Disease transmission if and when it occurs is therefore always dependent on a definite set of specifiable conditions which may vary depending on the disease in question.

Since cold viruses only exist in theory and have no proven physical existence by science we can’t blame it on them.

In any case, regarding the so-called Spanish Flu pandemic, sick-to well transmission was never proven by the experiments that were conducted by doctors in the US Navy in 1918.

These experiments are well-documented in the Navy Report. The causal agent was never determined and was only blamed on a virus with hindsight AFTER the invention of the electron microscope which didn’t solve the problem.

plasos
plasos
Jun 21, 2021 3:15 PM
Reply to  John Milton

Adding onto that John Milton and CO:

“Another reason is this one: we all have a tendency as humans to fall for confirmation bias.

Confirmation bias keeps us safe. Humans do not like their beliefs challenged…

.Confirmation bias means we will automatically seek information which *confirms* our existing programmed thoughts and we dismiss unconsciously any information which does *not* fit the preprogrammed ideas.

So if 5 children in a class of 20 experience detox symptoms around the same time, and we have been taught to believe the myth of contagion, we see the 5 children and we get our bias confirmed.

HOWEVER, we completely ignore the 15 other children who had no detox symptoms.

We ignore them because they do not reinforce the preprogrammed bias so our brains automatically filter that information and put less weight to that information.

Oftentimes….what you see…is not really the reality.”

-CO
-CO
Jun 22, 2021 12:06 PM
Reply to  plasos

Absolutely plasos! Human beings do not like their beliefs challenged!

In particular, their belief in alleged pathogenic viruses and vaccines which form an integral part of the medical consensus “reality” they have been programmed or conditioned to accept without question. The same applies to mask wearing , social distancing, lockdowns and from the evidence presented on these threads they have caused more harm than good.

Grafter
Grafter
Jun 19, 2021 4:58 PM
Reply to  -CO

Twas never about a virus.

-CO
-CO
Jun 19, 2021 5:48 PM
Reply to  Grafter

You know that, I know that, but nevertheless the “ghost virus” and it’s variant progeny of ghosts are the silent weapons to justify the vaccine roll out and the rest of the crap that the majority have swallowed hook, line and sinker.

Tom
Tom
Jun 20, 2021 3:54 AM
Reply to  -CO

Hear, hear to all of you discussing this. Took the words out of my mouth.

-CO
-CO
Jun 20, 2021 1:53 PM
Reply to  Tom

Cheers Tom, glad somebody agrees !

JGerhard
JGerhard
Jun 19, 2021 11:34 AM

Bah, if it saves one octogenarians life in the West, it’s all worth it.
Atnleast that’s what the lefties, greens, charities and above all the racist genocide jutification bodies like the Ethikrat in Germany have stated and how they see this.
Because, you see, that’s the main if not whole point of the exercise.

Wombat
Wombat
Jun 19, 2021 10:15 AM

From the Daily Mail online:-

Indian ‘Delta’ variant cases jump 80% in a week to 75,000 as data shows the mutant strain now makes up 99% of all infections in the UK
So what happened to all the other earlier “variants”.

It would appear that they are no longer infectious, if they ever were.

“You are infected by an old variant of convid. This variant is no longer supported. You should update to the latest variant.”
(W. Gates)

Denys Picard
Denys Picard
Jun 19, 2021 9:29 AM

Interesting, this will teach these Indians not to take food for granted. Meanwhile, I will urgently contact WHO and CDC authorities so they add to Covid-19’s long list of symptoms “Malnutrition”.

popo says
popo says
Jun 19, 2021 7:23 AM

Arithmetical slip:

It’s not ‘0.0001’ percent of their population, it’s ‘0.01’ percent [approx 1 person in 10,000: over a year about 1% of people die anyway so that’s about 1% of all deaths in perspective]

Mark
Mark
Jun 19, 2021 9:33 AM
Reply to  popo says

It does so, learn to use a calculator.
149,000/1,390,000,000 = 0.0001

KarenEliot
KarenEliot
Jun 19, 2021 3:13 PM
Reply to  Mark

Nice try mark. Move the decimal two places left and you magically get a percentage. 0.01 % as popo says said.

KarenEliot
KarenEliot
Jun 19, 2021 3:14 PM
Reply to  KarenEliot

Two places right. Is there a word for a pedant who corrects a pedant but gets it wrong. I plead guilty. One hundredth of one percent .

magumba
magumba
Jun 20, 2021 6:35 AM
Reply to  KarenEliot

Those decimal points wont be of much use as they drag you by the heels from your place of safety to place you in a place of safety because you politely refused their ‘offer’ of a vaccine that isn’t a vaccine and thus became a public health risk and were responsible for the deaths of all those children with your filthy unvaxxed domestic terrorist ways

Tamy
Tamy
Jun 20, 2021 3:08 AM
Reply to  popo says

You must be using a faulty or ancient calculator ps… As an example I used my iphone calculator first of all in portrait mode which gave me the basic calculator functions. When I put the full fractions in without reducing it, it incorrectly gave me 0.001 as the answer. When I reduced it it gave me 0.0001. Turning the phone into landscape gave me full scientific mode and gave me the correct answer on both occasions.

magumba
magumba
Jun 20, 2021 6:37 AM
Reply to  Tamy

Pray tell what does Diane Abbotacus use ?

les online
les online
Jun 19, 2021 5:57 AM

“We all live in Bhopal, some closer to the gas chambers and the mass graves, but all of us close enough to be victims.” (David Watson: Fifth Estate (Detroit). #319. Winter 1985)

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 19, 2021 1:54 AM

The thing is, our controllers have taken the gloves off, along with their masks.
They do not care, so nothing they do should surprise us any longer.
We, on the other hand, clearly do care, and it is we who should be constantly surprising the sub-human, sub-animal species that is destroying its own, ‘Just because it can’.

The articles on OffG are generally excellent vivisections of our perishing society, but the facts provided are ‘fill-in’ facts. If we didn’t already know them, then we certainly suspected their existence.

We know our enemy, and he is a demon – if not the demon, and it doesn’t take an awful lot of brain to imagine what he will do next.
I don’t really want to see any more articles about what he has already done and what he is threatening to do tomorrow. It is old news, even if it hasn’t actually happened yet.

Thomas Mann, in his book, “Doctor Faustus”, did a spine-chilling portrait of a personal tragedy which involves some conversations with a demon convincing enough for one to imagine its character was diabolically inspired.
William Blatty did the same in his book and screenplay, “The Exorcist”, bringing us face to face with the worst of human experience.

Now it looks like it’s our turn.

I want to see a whole society growing a spine and saying, “Enough!”, but we can’t do that without serious moral guidance. The spiritual dimension to what is going on can no longer be ignored.
This is an actual battle for our souls, make no mistake.

If we can’t find the torches and pitchforks to do this the traditional way, then at least we can make sure our private lives are lived as well as possible.
While the government used to urge, “Act like you’ve got the virus”, let’s all act as if covid didn’t exist. After all, that is the truth of the matter.

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 19, 2021 3:01 AM
Reply to  wardropper

In order to create change people need to change themselves first. Part of that change in consciousness is recognizing the root problems and the reality of our global dilemma. Fortunately, there are a few people who know what is really happening.

There is nothing new under the sun.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jun 19, 2021 10:14 AM
Reply to  wardropper

the real enemy is compliance of the masses without which the few, even with their minions would not have got this far. 🙁
once the trap is shut it’s to late.

jamie
jamie
Jun 19, 2021 1:10 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Suppose keeping the powder dry till actually needed is, militarily speaking, the best policy…

-CO
-CO
Jun 20, 2021 2:53 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I have raised the spiritual issue several times on past threads but most people tend to think it’s about religion which it is Not. There’s spiritual science for example, and materialistic science and their ‘methods’ and concepts are intertwined.

Energy and consciousness (spirit) for example, both have substance if they did not, they would be pure abstractions and could do NOTHING.

Matter is simply condensed energy according to quantum physics and particles consist of packets of either moving or standing waves. Life and consciousness are also synonymous and both are forms of energy that have substance.

If we consider that spirit and matter are just two sides of the same coin then there is no matter that is completely devoid of life or consciousness , even if that life or consciousness is only latent as it is in the mineral Kingdom.

Body, soul and spirit come next insofar as humans are concerned which are all different structured vehicles of consciousness- substance and they all interpenetrate and interact.

If their interactions become dysregulated for any reason e.g. stress, trauma, toxins, faulty diet, lifestyle, EM radiation, deficiencies etc, etc, etc. It will most probably result in disharmony or what we normally refer to as a “disease”.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 20, 2021 9:56 PM
Reply to  -CO

Just be clear, I have not said that this is “about religion”, but simply that what is now happening has a spiritual dimension in terms of the effect it has on people’s thought processes and perceptions of the world and its significance.

It makes no difference whether people can see the devil or not.
“By their deeds shall ye know them”… sort of thing.

In any case it isn’t possible to dismiss the depths of serious philosophy by considering spirit and matter as “two sides of the same coin”, when there is no actual explanation offered as to what, exactly, this coin is, what purpose it serves, and who owns it.

Discussing the existence and reality of religion, or the differences between the material and the spiritual cannot be done here. Many encyclopaediae would have to be written to cover those matters half adequately, so I won’t go there.
Life calls.

-CO
-CO
Jun 20, 2021 11:13 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Yes I understand perfectly. You are the two sides of the same coin and so is everything and everybody else according to esoteric philosophy but I won’t go there too. Thou art THAT as the Ancients used to say, and they said no more.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 21, 2021 12:29 PM
Reply to  -CO

Whatever.
Looks like an ad hominem to me, so we’re already off-track.
We all have some thinking to do, and that is often best done in private.

-CO
-CO
Jun 21, 2021 8:11 PM
Reply to  wardropper

No ad hominem intended I was just trying to illustrate the universally of spirit and matter from the position of esoteric philosophy. You are right we all have some thinking to do and some more than others.

-CO
-CO
Jun 22, 2021 10:35 AM
Reply to  -CO

Apologies for typo universally should read” universality” I should have gone to Specsavers again!!

Big al
Big al
Jun 19, 2021 1:04 AM

More evidence that this has been a giant criminal scam. The reporting earlier regarding India and covid was akin to war reporting, to gin up fear and support for the scam. Like printing stories of babies getting thrown out of incubators (Saddam and Iraq) or the staged gas attacks in Syria. Same media, same modus operandi. This is similar to 9/11 in that when you look at all the pieces, the lead up, the actors involved, the coincidences and impossibilities, Cui bono, all that, anyone with a reasonable head has to conclude the official story is bulllshit. But it works on too many of us, every damn time, and they get away with it, every damn time. Maybe this time will be different, but probably only if millions start getting sick and dying off because of the fake vaccines. Even then, they’ve gotten away with killing millions before. They’ve got almost complete control of the media, unless we can turn that around the only thing I see is local, like the Mexican town that recently told political parties to fuck off. Eternal struggle against greed and power.

Shipintheknight
Shipintheknight
Jun 19, 2021 9:52 AM
Reply to  Big al

I do not expect any deaths from the jab will ever be attributed to anything except the pesky virus. It’ll just be more fuel for the fear furnaces.

Thom1111
Thom1111
Jun 19, 2021 12:57 AM

Two different sources are now reporting that 4 British Airways pilots (captains) have died within 1 week. Reuters one of the sources. BA saying its not the vaccines.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 19, 2021 1:15 AM
Reply to  Thom1111

“Doing scamdemic propaganda damage control for the Billy Eugenics corporate fascist euthanasia cull juice project is turning out to be quite a bitch for the Psycho’s would one not say? So many bodies to sluff off, so many victims to pooh-pooh away.”
comment image

Shipintheknight
Shipintheknight
Jun 19, 2021 9:56 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

She knows what is going on. The “dark forces” comment after the Lady Di episode was telling.
But her first priority is maintaining the family position and fk her “subjects”, us oiks..

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
Jun 19, 2021 11:02 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Cooper, you’re a legend! 🤣👏👍😃

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 19, 2021 3:54 AM
Reply to  Thom1111
Waldorf
Waldorf
Jun 19, 2021 10:39 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Airline pilots have to be very healthy. For example high blood pressure, even if controlled by medication, will rule you out as they don’t want someone to have a heart attack or stroke at the controls of an airliner. So this is a significant occurrence.

Shelby
Shelby
Jun 19, 2021 11:34 AM
Reply to  Thom1111

Plane crashes tend to have 100% FR.

Paolo
Paolo
Jun 19, 2021 12:50 AM

I’d never really realised people were able to do good in bad faith. I’d never even thought of it as a concept. This condescending kindergarten language about helping the needy when these gits are doing exactly the opposite. Is this some kind of global Munchhausen by Proxy or what exactly is the psychological profile driving this?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 19, 2021 3:47 AM
Reply to  Paolo

Psychologists have betrayed the people. Years ago I thought they could help us by pointing out how many politicians and corporate leaders are damaged individuals.

Instead the profession went to work for those sickos and have used insights gained with the people’s trust, to attack us.

magumba
magumba
Jun 20, 2021 6:42 AM
Reply to  Paolo
Aethelred
Aethelred
Jun 22, 2021 10:01 AM
Reply to  Paolo

Harold Searles wrote of this years ago in “The Dedicated Physician.” Himself a practitioner, he recognised his own sadistic process in his dedication to his patients. Alas he is almost forgotten now.

http://insight.org.ro/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Searles-The-Dedicated-Physician.pdf

Arby
Arby
Jun 19, 2021 12:21 AM

“It is a real struggle to understand why the Indian government would shut down large parts of the Indian economy and put potentially hundreds of millions of poor people’s lives at risk of starvation by locking them in their houses because a tiny fraction of the population has caught a flu virus.”

Politicians are gangsters who answer to higher, earthly and spirit, powers. Even people who don’t see things that way were forced to note that Narendra Modi came from a fascist organization. He’s a typical fascist, whipping up ideas about Indian purity and national identity in order to distract the people from their serious problems. I had an interesting taxi ride with one of his worshippers. He absolutely would not see reason. I explained the above to him. He insisted Modi was a hero and good for India.

Dionne Bunsha wrote, in 2015, that:

Until a year ago, Modi was denied a visa to visit the U.S. because of “severe violations of religious freedom.” While Modi was chief minister of Gujarat, he was accused of “criminal conspiracy” in a pogrom against Muslims in 2002 in which more than 1,000 were killed, and over 100,000 were made refugees. Modi rose from the ranks of the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), an extremist nationalist organization that was briefly banned in India after one of its members, Nathuram Godse, assassinated Mahatma Gandhi. Extremist Hindu nationalist groups affiliated with Modi’s party, collectively called the Sangh Parivar, allegedly played a key role in the planned attacks.”

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jun 19, 2021 5:51 AM
Reply to  Arby

Just one look at the caste system and you’ll understand how the government is doing what it’s doing…

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jun 19, 2021 4:14 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Hello Veri Tas: Exactly. The beliefs that some are “untouchable”, some are “blessed” by gods, and many are born to exist in filthy street gutters, is common in all moronic traditions.

Teachable morons have graduated India and most of the world, into the manifest destinies of Idiocracy  The film “Idiocracy” was truly prophetic…

Paolo
Paolo
Jun 20, 2021 2:20 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

The west is trying to create its own caste system. Deplace the “basket of deplorables” and replace them with migrants. We just need a few thousand grinning hipsters with oversized glasses to front the whole thing and to destroy western culture from within replacing it with gormless irony and empty virtue signalling.
Tweaking stipendium and awards funding did wonders. Which thinktank came up with that 20 years ago?

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 19, 2021 7:27 AM
Reply to  Arby

Australia;s appalling ABC whingers did a program early last year when this crap lie started showing up to 400 million pple marching for weeks at a time back to their rural villagers after being kicked out of work with lockdowns the ABC in Australia were the first in the world to start screeching for. Not once with the hysterical whining now have they noticed that 400 million people are not dead or dying from fake covid, they are starving to death.

Arby
Arby
Jun 20, 2021 12:16 AM

Acknowledged.

dude
dude
Jun 18, 2021 11:34 PM

That means over 10 million people died in India in 2020, and only 1.5% were coronavirus deaths.

How yould you even know? Did you test for other pathogens? Was there an autopsy? Nope? Allright then.. i bet its like her in europe. Natural background death rate.. mainly consisting of multimorbid +80 year old.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
Jun 19, 2021 12:08 AM
Reply to  dude

It means of 10,000,000 that died 150,000 allegedly died of CoVid1984.

Arby
Arby
Jun 19, 2021 12:22 AM
Reply to  dude

Agreed. But I would go further. No one, ever, has died of covid 19. It doesn’t exist.

Koba
Koba
Jun 19, 2021 12:50 AM
Reply to  Arby

Surely it should be COVID 21 by now. Also saw today we have a “delta variant”. Sweet just echo, foxtrot etc variants to go through and we can start naming the next variants after planets

Arby
Arby
Jun 19, 2021 1:02 AM
Reply to  Koba

Indeed.

Cori
Cori
Jun 19, 2021 2:25 AM
Reply to  Koba

In Seattle we’re already worried about the Gamma on top of the Delta. It’s so stressful…..

Koba
Koba
Jun 19, 2021 4:19 AM
Reply to  Cori

Well hopefully enough people can make this mild virus Foxtrot-Uniform-Charlie-Kilo off

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 19, 2021 7:28 AM
Reply to  dude

Well the death rate last year was the same as the year before that.

John
John
Jun 18, 2021 10:58 PM

I have to ask. How do you actually go about having a lockdown in India? Having been there a few times I don’t believe it’s even possible and there certainly are not enough Police to even consider enforcing it.

Richard
Richard
Jun 19, 2021 1:39 AM
Reply to  John

Trains stop, buses don’t start, shops ordered to close…….. cops are practiced in the use of big sticks.

India has been on the road to fascism for some time.

DomoebaMalingera
DomoebaMalingera
Jun 19, 2021 7:57 AM
Reply to  Richard

The Indian so called po/lice are extremely corrupt and will lash out with a government issue lathi (thick bamboo stick) sooner than look at you.

Shelby
Shelby
Jun 19, 2021 12:00 PM

Watched a vid a while back when the temple goers machetes the cops up.

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 18, 2021 10:54 PM

Hunting For Viruses:

Dr. Sam Bailey interviews Dr. Andrew Kaufman where he discusses why virus isolation is crucial and why it has never been achieved, as well as the latest work of Dr. Stefan Lanka and his refutation of viral theory and the cytopathic effect.

Every virus believer should watch this video. To learn the truth and for their own health. Knowledge is power.

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Jun 19, 2021 1:35 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Hi Researcher,

What do you think would be as good a way as possible to explain to a virus believer the truth ? eg. Just recently my brother had a ‘cold’, I spent some time with him, (was feeling a bit low anyway), then immediately got a cold afterwards (a bad one) , first since Dec 2019, (the ‘covid’, or, bad flu !).

Like I said before, people need an easy-to-understand statement on virus bs. (with links as necessary).

p.s. Did you get yer site up ?

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 19, 2021 2:32 AM

Hi, CB. Epidemiological coincidence. When we become sick within a household or community, we are often being exposed to a similar toxin, whether in the water supply, food supply, air or an increase in radiation around about the same time. These illnesses statistically occur seasonally, when we are low in Vitamin D and antioxidants.

For those in optimum health, they won’t be affected. For those already on the brink of getting sick, they remember the person they came in contact with who was sick before them and attribute their illness to that person. Since we’ve been told these illnesses are always contagious we view others as carriers even though they are just suffering from the same or similar environmental exposure.

There was the case of an Antarctic research group who had been isolated for 17 weeks from the outside world and some became sick with cold symptoms, while others had none even though they all lived and worked together. The first who displayed symptoms, did so exactly three days after the temperature dropped dramatically. Perhaps the environmental shock, change in air pressure, temperature or electromagnetism, may have been the trigger that sent some of them into the detox phase we call a flu or cold.

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 19, 2021 2:35 AM

And not yet on the site. I’m working on something else at the moment so I’m stretched a bit thin.

Edith
Edith
Jun 19, 2021 5:40 AM

It is always surreal sitting with a few people even if they know much is complete bullshit…sooner or later they start rabbling about how dangerous the virus is and how good it is we are not being exposed to overseas visitors etc….and next breath will say but I know it is all nonsense and we are being told lies…

it does my head in as there is not consistency…something has happened to a great many brains on the planet….they can hold 2 completely contradictory views simultaneously and claim each with just as much enthusiasm…

even though I know it is probably neptune and the eclipses I still get shocked when it happens and think no wonder the total believers just line up for shots, wear their masks or whatever else….thinking has been destroyed..

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 19, 2021 1:20 PM
Reply to  Edith

It gets destroyed when we are small. Instead of asking questions we see our parents behave like automatons and teach us nothing that is truly important. By the time they send us to school we become indoctrinated and are given a false view and understanding of the world. Such as government is valid, legitimate and exists to look after people. Governments manage populations. For the controllers to exploit, enslave, thieve from, deceive, kill and maim.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jun 19, 2021 5:55 AM

Dr Sam Bailey here discusses the research that was conducted during the so-called Spanish flu which pretty much proved that transmission is a myth. They even shoved sputum and snot from severely sick people up healthy people’s noses…. nothing, zilch contagion / transmission.

Viral transmission from human to human has never been proven!

https://youtu.be/wzGxKTzuDv0?t=631

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 19, 2021 1:32 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

People hold on to false beliefs due to repetition of the lie. If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself.“ Joseph Goebbels.

It took me some time to understand how germ theory is false. I had to figure out how antibiotics worked and the true nature of “infection” before I could accept terrain theory.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 19, 2021 2:03 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Again, as has been pointed out by previous admins, please don’t replace one set of dogmas with your own. It’s impossible to engage and just becomes noise. Thanks, A2

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 19, 2021 2:14 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

It’s not dogma. It’s just an alternative explanation for illness that is backed up by empirical and experimental data. What’s wrong with the 17 week isolation research study? He asked me for a link. Can you at least put the link up without the text then?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 19, 2021 3:08 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Your comment wasn’t held back deliberately. It’s posted now. A2

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 19, 2021 3:19 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Thanks! Sorry. I didn’t realize the link wasn’t accessible. Here’s a full link.

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 19, 2021 1:07 PM

Epidemiological coincidence.

Isolated researchers for 17 weeks. Some got colds and some did not. They didn’t “catch” colds. Their bodies went into detox during winter.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 19, 2021 3:13 PM
Reply to  Researcher

If anyone manages to login through their library or university and download a full copy, it’d be very interesting to see a copy. A2

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 19, 2021 4:59 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Terrain theory isn’t dogma. It’s backed up by thousands of years of naturopathy, herbalism and holistic practices, such as Traditional Chinese Medicine, Ayurvedic Medicine etc.  

Whenever doctors advise getting enough sleep, exercising, avoiding stress and eating cleanly, they’re supporting terrain theory. Not germ theory.

The very real and important advances made in medicine over the last century such as trauma medicine and brilliant surgical techniques, don’t match the lack of advancement in other areas of medicine such as using patentable small molecules and biologics (Rx drugs and vaccines) to treat diseases that are preventable with lifestyle changes and proper nutrition. 

What the oligarchs and billionaires who run the world won’t tell you (like the Queen) is that they use homeopathic remedies. They don’t use allopathy. Because that is a small part of their hidden knowledge. 

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 19, 2021 7:00 PM
Reply to  Researcher

I don’t doubt there’s a discussion to be had, however a dogmatic approach – maintaining there are no such things as communicable microbiological disease – makes a conversation difficult-to-impossible. The Antarctica paper, in addition to relating the spontaneous outbreak, also cites other examples of outsiders introducing infectious disease into isolated populations, although I couldn’t read the paper so that’s as far as my observation can go. I do think there are enough historical instances of infectious disease that predate vaccines to make your binary stance unhelpful. Perhaps I’m missing the point, but creating a podium from which to spout axiomatic dogmas like ‘there are no infectious diseases’ is simply falling into the same trap you accuse others of falling into, isn’t it?

Am I right, terrain theory basically asserts pathogens are essentially harmless, and that a healthy, balanced body keeps them so? However, I don’t see how this is an either/or scenario. They are not logically at cross purposes. Using terrain theory, you could argue that certain viruses might crop up which the population wasn’t adapted to, and that a lot of people might get sick. I do realise that the evil motive of the ‘killer virus’ that wants to infect people would be misleading in this scenario, but the means of stopping too many people becoming ill with it at once, in the short term, would largely be the same. You’d stay away from people who had the disease.

So, I’m sure I’m not getting everything, I’m not an expert on Terrain Theory, but it feels wrong to be too binary, and that’s why we’re asking you to avoid doing that.

This is not a challenge, and I am not asking you to defend your position, just requesting you be a little less binary. I hope I was clear, and forgive the rambly post. A2

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 20, 2021 1:58 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Terrain theory could be taken that way (and it has by some), but it actually discounts germs as the cause of illness because of pleomorphism, where our cells create bacteria, enzymes, fungi and exosomes to clear out poisons we are exposed to through our food, water, air and thoughts. Therefore being in close proximity to people who are ill becomes irrelevant. Hence, the contagion myth.

So the current way of looking at disease or illness from a terrain perspective is that the germs (bacteria and viruses proteins, enzymes and exosomes) are merely by-products of the cellular clearance of the poisons (and nutritional deficiencies or toxic environment) we are exposed to.

So we aren’t ever at risk from other people. Even the immune compromised, weak and elderly, can be exposed to the “germs“ from other people and they will not get sick from that exposure. We are always creating the pleomorphic microbes (Bacteria and phages, fungi and yeast) internally with the cell mediated detox process.

That there are no exogenous microbes jumping from host to host. Everything is created internally. Hence, we cannot “catch” things. Hence, social distancing, mask wearing, hand sanitizers, wearing gloves, a hazmat suit and vaccines cannot ever prevent or inhibit any illness, only cause harm.

And that they (defense departments and their pet researchers including Pasteur and Koch) created viruses as a construct because it’s easier to point to an invisible entity as the cause of illness, because then defense departments and PhRMA can legally inject people with poison as a “cure” for the fictional microbes (viruses).

And that they (the controllers) have known this all along. Since before Jenner.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 20, 2021 3:13 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Ah interesting. I see your point. I think the unhelpful aspect of this conversation is, as a jumping off point, immediately seeking to discount all contagious disease that has ever been documented, ever. I think a more nuanced and interesting conversation would be trying to find examples of contagious disease, to test the boundaries of this conversation and, if you are able to make a realistic hypothesis, to test that hypothesis. It could be the two phenomenon can coexist quite happily. That is to say, many viruses are merely byproducts, but some can be contagious under the right circumstances, and one person’s byproduct can potentially create dangerous immune reactions in the next person. Thanks for your reply. A2

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 20, 2021 4:55 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

And this answer is just for you too, Sam and Sophie. To read at your leisure if you wish or to ignore and delete.

Right. That’s your perspective. That viruses could be real. That it could be a combination of terrain and germ.

But my perspective is that before one accepts something can exist as a given or possibility, (since truth is about determining what did happen, not what didn’t happen) one has to show that there is contagion before one can accept it as true. Because observing that a person gets sick after exposure to another sick person isn’t proof. It’s epidemiological coincidence. We make a leap in our mind that one person gave it to another on the basis of being told continually that we can “catch“ these viral or bacterial illnesses from others.

And since contagion hasn’t been shown or proven in any experiments, epidemiological data, or even by injection of sick people’s bodily fluids into others, then it is still up to those scientists and doctors who believe in contagion to prove it with something scientific. Some data or physical evidence that supports the theory. But that has not been done. And it’s not because the experiments could not be carried out. It’s because when they are carried out, they always disprove contagion as the cause.

Because there is another logical explanation for illnesses that appear contagious such as simultaneous poisoning of children, families, communities and populations. And because of this more logical explanation, I think it’s somewhat silly and superstitious, to keep believing in something that has a better and more logical explanation and has already been proven by the following points:

  1. Most viral and bacterial diseases were eradicated before the vaccines appeared in the nineteenth century.
  2. Contagion not only provides cover for mass poisonings, it prevents legal and criminal proceedings against governments and corporations who poison and pollute.
  3. Once food was fortified with Vitamin D all viral diseases practically disappeared except for mild seasonal symptoms. Therefore most alleged viral or bacterial diseases were eradicated with proper nutrition.
  4. Poisoned populations were sickened by particular poisons in use such as pesticides or unsanitary water and when those poisons or contaminants were removed the populations stopped getting the “viral” or “bacterial” diseases associated with the poisons.
  5. Large Electrification leaps and vaccination campaigns always seemed to take place simultaneously and statistically coincided with outbreaks that spread too fast to be host to host transmission. Esp. in 1918 flu epidemic where there was only boat travel. No planes.
  6. Other diseases previously thought to be contagious such as scurvy, beriberi, pellagra were eradicated with adequate nutrition and vitamins.
  7. Numerous studies support the prevention of all alleged viral diseases with certain vitamin supplements and more sunshine.
  8. The body doesn’t have an immune system but instead a detoxification system through the Lymphatic system, liver, kidneys, bowels, lungs, skin and mucosal cells.
  9. All detoxification from poisons results in the symptoms associated with viral and bacterial illnesses.
  10. The tests for the viruses never test for a virus but an antibody or an irrelevant gene sequence that is not unique. However, all antibodies are non specific and moreover, they are only proteins. A protein is not a virus. Proteins are the building blocks of life. They exist on their own separately from viruses which are still a construct until physically isolated.
  11. Patients are diagnosed with particular bacterial infections often without the bacteria being present or found.
  12. Healthy people have been found with the alleged deadly bacteria but are completely unaffected. Those two examples alone, disprove monocausal germ theory.
  13. If they (microbiologists and the entire PhRMA industry and defense departments of the world) cannot find the molecule (SARSCov2) or isolate an alleged virus when they isolate exosomes (which are exactly the same size as viruses) all the time and have even isolated an electron and an atom, then we have to conclude that the viral entities do not exist and they are artifacts of a process of poisoning cell cultures in Petri dishes. Without controls.

Contagion only appears real due to mass repetition even though it does not exist in the real world.

As for the colonial stories that European explorers exposed indigenous populations to contagion and that’s how they died, that’s not what happened. They were deliberately starved, poisoned or moved off their land and died as a consequence of those actions. And the myth of contagious diseases was enhanced by the controllers mitigating their responsibility in poisoning and starving indigenous communities to seize their land. By spreading “pox” covered blanket myths etc.

There a lot of anomalies with viruses that I know are false. There’s no need to create fraud at any level if your research is genuine. It’s not necessary.

People don’t generally question virus existence because as Dr. Bailey explained the genomic evidence and all the taxonomy, and “sequences“ seem like conclusive proof. That a thing exists because of its genome. But there is a lot of fraud behind the scenes. Even in real corporations, with real scientists, some of whom have a genuine belief in these things that are false, trying to help others. There’s still fraud occurring. At every level. From the lowly lab assistant to the CEO. Unfortunately, it’s endemic. Not a rarity. And some scientists who know a lot better are deliberately spreading false information. And they do know there are no viruses. And I know who those particular scientists are by the language they use in their videos, the studies and references they use or promote and their ties to specific groups that are funded by the very perpetrators of the entire covid operation.

You can delete.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 21, 2021 5:35 PM
Reply to  Researcher

You don’t need to make your job so difficult by being such a revisionist! 🙂 A lot of your numbered points can coexist quite happily with contagious disease. You even concede contagion IS a phenomenon that can physically occur in point 1. Therefore your attempts to apply Hitchen’s Razor and shift the onus of proof onto proponents of the status quo doesn’t work. If you concede contagion can exist then the burden of proof shifts firmly onto you to demonstrate that contagion has indeed been annihilated in every corner of the globe, and can’t possibly account for ANY of the disease we see today.

Hitchen’s said: “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.” To attempt to shift the burden of proof you’d need to maintain that contagion has no evidence at all. However there is evidence for contagion. You are merely seeking to reframe that evidence with an alternative hypothesis.

Let’s be less binary! We don’t all have to be hardline revisionists to have an interesting and important conversation. There’s still a very interesting conversation to be had, whatever the mechanism of disease is and whether germ and terrain theory coexist or not (as we both agree they can, if only historically according to you).

I think this is actually a more interesting conversation and still very controversial. A2

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 21, 2021 7:33 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I don’t acknowledge it can occur in point 1. THEY claim this. They claim that these diseases exist but they were/are just putting false labels on mass poisonings and detox symptoms. The body does not work as they claim. Once you peel back the layers it’s all lies. From the fake tests (western blot, PCR etc) and the fake diagnoses that come with those tests to the claims that alleged “viral“ illnesses like Herpes can’t be cured. All alleged viral illnesses can be cured. Permanently. There’s actually proof of that within the published literature. But not within allopathy because it was developed from a false paradigm. Also it’s not a job. It’s just what I’ve come to understand through researching illness and disease.

-CO
-CO
Jun 22, 2021 10:49 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Since the symbolic order of language or thought Sam, is based on binary opposition how is that to be reconciled? I ask that because it can’t be reconciled by being ” less binary” can it?

-CO
-CO
Jun 22, 2021 1:19 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

There are big problems with Hitchen’s Razor no matter who tries to apply it if it is completely expressed:-

IF (evidence is required in order to consider an assertion) THEN (I assert that “that which is asserted is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence”).

The premise shown here is presumed and is an opinion, not a valid premise for a truth statement.

Hitchens therefore makes his assertion with no premises given. A conclusion without premises declared as Truth yet without evidence of its own Truth value. Hitchen’s Razor cannot prove itself so why even bother to refer to it?

-CO
-CO
Jun 20, 2021 9:03 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

The problem with the contagion thesis is that it usually postulates transmission of a disease by direct contact with an infected person or object thus assuming a horizontal spread from sick to well which in that case it was disproved by the US Navy experiments which I’ve mentioned and referenced before.

Vertical transmission to horizontal in epidemics is not often mentioned at all. Hope Simpson was on the right track but got bogged down with assuming (but not Proving) a viral cause of the so-called Spanish influenza.

-CO
-CO
Jun 20, 2021 9:06 PM
Reply to  -CO

The US Navy experiments I was referring to relate to the Spanish Flu.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 20, 2021 3:34 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Message to admin received and acknowledged 🙂 A2

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 19, 2021 1:09 PM

A good book to read is Virus Mania.

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Jun 20, 2021 1:34 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Thanks very much, Researcher !

REP
REP
Jun 19, 2021 1:44 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Kaufman is a clown. I would have listen to him on anything virus-related.

-CO
-CO
Jun 20, 2021 11:20 PM
Reply to  REP

Why do you think Dr Kaufman is a clown? A full explanation would be appreciated.

jkb
jkb
Jun 22, 2021 2:25 PM
Reply to  -CO

There was another one saying that Kaufman was a controlled opposition, but also without any explanation.

-CO
-CO
Jun 22, 2021 3:37 PM
Reply to  jkb

Yes Jkb, the usual tactic is that we are expected to accept conclusions without premises and arguments without substance at least where scientific issues are concerned. That fortunately only applies in certain cases.

Jan J
Jan J
Jun 18, 2021 10:47 PM

People, and a large share of that kids and infants, have been dying in droves to hunger, malnutrition and easily treatable diseases since… forever! Quite literally tens of millions each year. It could be stopped by directing a fraction of the worlds combined military spend to humanitarian causes, hell even the US could do it alone if they cut back military spending by 1/3 (ca.) To believe the elites now want to SAVE lives is so laughable you have to be a lobotomized fool to believe it. Yet the herd of morons believe exactly that!

Koba
Koba
Jun 19, 2021 12:52 AM
Reply to  Jan J

Yep and what happens to herded animals? They end up diving off cliffs or being led to slaughter houses. Good

Edwige
Edwige
Jun 18, 2021 10:47 PM

Perhaps in the West we still have a cliched and outdated view of the causes of death in India. In 2018, WHO stated “approximately 70% of deaths from cancer occur in low- and middle-income countries”. (Typically their response has been to blame more and more cancer deaths on viruses – like cervical cancer – and then push vaccination as the answer). The same is true of, for example, asthma. What were once called “diseases of affluence” turn out not to be as the Indian diet has moved closer to the West’s combined with chronic pollution (for example one report from about a decade ago found 20% of Kolkata children had lead poisoning).

Lockdown measures will stop Indian people accessing cancer care. How bad a thing one thinks that is depends on how one views the allopathic recipe for cancer.

Annie
Annie
Jun 18, 2021 10:44 PM

I think the one’s that question this story are the ones that have been told how it’s going to end ?I know I knew 20 years ago without internet without tv.I just knew it was coming

DaveMass
DaveMass
Jun 18, 2021 10:40 PM

It is and always was, a cull.
Gates, Swaub, et Al –
1.5 millions Indians died in road accidents in 2019.
They die on the streets every night, homeless.
And now I wonder if the yanks had a word in Geneva to get Russia onside with a Moscow lockdown?
After 15months it’s panic time?!

Annie
Annie
Jun 18, 2021 10:40 PM

Should send food parcels but how long would that last.India are being beaten and bullied for they’re nwo to come into affect like they thought give them phones let they all connect then we are all one now let’s do the nwo .

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jun 18, 2021 10:19 PM

It’s NOT a struggle to understand why they locked down. The message is out on the whoodoo frequency – clear the decks. The East India Co. had little trouble getting the native stock owners to join their club. They already treated the people like dirt, look at their caste system.

Edith
Edith
Jun 19, 2021 5:45 AM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Yep when one of my long ago relatives was govt of one of the Provence’s millions died of starvation….photos of that time are dire…the British stole what food there was and the Indians starved…I have no idea how this was thought acceptable by the British or the Indians who no doubt out numbered them…there are some crazy things of history and it appears they can be repeated at any time…civilisation is but a thin veneer I suspect…

Peter Abraham
Peter Abraham
Jun 19, 2021 11:47 AM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Every society has an informal but effective caste system.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jun 19, 2021 4:36 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Hello NixonScraypes: Yup. Most readers will blow right past any mention of the The East India Co. (established as a trade cartel in about 1600). They’ll also blow past any mention of the fact that corporations have ruled political and economic discourse for over 600 years.

Everyone likes castes. Just ask the members…

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jun 19, 2021 5:59 PM

Especially fishermen and I’mtold, knitters.

scowie
scowie
Jun 18, 2021 10:01 PM

According to these Indian villagers, 5G has been doing plenty of killing too:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/d1DWck05lYhc/

Paolo
Paolo
Jun 19, 2021 12:37 AM
Reply to  scowie

I believe them. I think this is an important video. Direct evidence like this is worth so much more than the forked tongued utterings of our so called experts these days.

Koba
Koba
Jun 19, 2021 1:04 AM
Reply to  scowie

Very intriguing video

DomoebaMalingera
DomoebaMalingera
Jun 19, 2021 8:25 AM
Reply to  scowie

From day one of this year of the Dodo there have been roadworks(no muzzles for the workers at all from the first clampdown onwards) all around central London laying the fibre optic infrastructure for 5G. There were even signs at first saying it was for 5G. Now i am spotting the same happening further out of the centre but it is now apparently fibre optic for broadband. I presume this is because of too many calling them out. I now have constant high pitched ringing in my ears(its the first thing i hear when i wake up in the morning) which goes if i leave town. This started at least 6 months ago and suddenly switched on as i was walking up the road one morning.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 19, 2021 12:42 PM

Propaganda I saw on TV tried to dismiss it as due to air-con.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jun 19, 2021 6:07 PM

5G is primarily a protocol that uses the same radio technology as 4G. This will change over time as it will eventually use both the now largely unused UHF TV bands and super high frequency “millimeter” waves. We’ll get the improved coverage from the UHF bands and the blindingly fast download speeds from the millimeter waves. Millimeter waves are not commercially viable at this time, though, because they lack both range and penetration, so much of what you read about 5G and its benefits is a marketing con — cell phone providers need everyone to pony up for new kit and plans to provide the revenue stream needed to finance their investment (but since most people won’t notice the difference they can continue to serve up 4G).

In a sense 5G is currently a marketing con. Its rather fitting that it should be associate with wild rumors about health risks, Covid and the like.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Jun 19, 2021 10:37 AM
Reply to  scowie

Thanks for that! I see that it was posted June 3rd. Sure would be nice to see what the result was of the villagers’ complaint, their threats to take down the 5G towers, and if that did happen what the result was. I’m sure this isn’t being reported in international or English-language media — or will be rather hard to find if it is! — so I ask anyone reading this who is in India or familiar with the language spoken to check news sources for a follow-up to this, and to report back to us.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Jun 18, 2021 9:56 PM

And then, maybe the goal wasn’t to save lives.

Ron
Ron
Jun 18, 2021 9:46 PM

This “unnecessary death” is intentional. India is the country with the largest “democracy”. I despise writing that but that’s what the mainstream media call India; the world’s largest democracy. Anyway, India is a complete failure with “democracy”. For anyone who has been around the country in the last 30 years and compared India with China, you would have to agree, democracy in India does not work. India needs and should revert to a mixed economy (free market with socialists elements). How can a democracy in India supposedly work when you have the world’s largest illiterate population? I’m not even implying the ability to read means logic and reason.

DaveMass
DaveMass
Jun 18, 2021 10:42 PM
Reply to  Ron

And apparently 300 million Indians have no decent place to shit…

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jun 18, 2021 9:36 PM

“They work, then they eat.”

Among the most diligent people I have worked with. Unfortunately they are not the only people with a dysfunctional would-be elite, easily corrupted by the best degenerates Western culture can provide.

kevin king
kevin king
Jun 19, 2021 12:18 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

So very true. But their willingness to obey authority regardless is not one of their strong points. Mind you that applies to 90 percent of the world’s population including the Brits whose performance over the last 16 months has shocked me.

Koba
Koba
Jun 19, 2021 1:06 AM
Reply to  kevin king

Brits have always been charlatans! Stiff upper lip was always a load of old shite. Brits don’t do breaking orthodoxy.

Shelby
Shelby
Jun 19, 2021 12:07 PM
Reply to  Koba

Koba. You have not met us yet have you.

ConstantBees
ConstantBees
Jun 19, 2021 6:33 PM
Reply to  Shelby

I’m an American living in the UK. Have done so for the past 20 years. Brits used to break orthodoxy in the past, the great British eccentric and all that. Now the majority seems to have turned into conformists. Amazing how most of them even seem to believe the government these days.

Skeptic
Skeptic
Jun 18, 2021 9:30 PM

My heart aches.

Everyone knew this would happen. But those shouting about masks, generosity, solidarity saving lives (while staying home, being furloughed) shrugged it of. And the only thing I have heard from the world´s left are platitudes about vaccine inequality™, muzzles for the third world, etc.

Make no mistake. Everyone who either knew, sensed or was told this would happen but stayed indifferent has, at best, the empathy of a rock, that if he or she is not outright evil.

In fact, one of the most shocking things I have experienced this last year is seeing people who i thought were good, charitable, empathic, and generous, listening about hundreds of million starving and trying to excuse it in some way or another.

99% of people have been wearing a mask, both literally and figurative. And when the latter falls, the sight is that of a selfish, insensitive, violent, and inauthentic creature, who wouldn´t mind throwing the rest of the world under the bus, if felt threatened by, for example, a flu.

Stay strong.

October
October
Jun 18, 2021 9:36 PM
Reply to  Skeptic

The ‘vaccine inequality’ trope is a particularly revolting example of ‘left-wing’ virtue-signalling.

Koba
Koba
Jun 19, 2021 1:10 AM
Reply to  October

If I see one more bullshit story from Facebook socialists about how America has somehow stopped a Cuban/Bolivian/DPRK vaccine I’m going to go ape shit. America would do such a thing but they haven’t.

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Jun 19, 2021 8:05 AM
Reply to  Koba

The most disgusting and odious hypocrites of all, however, are not one’s immediate neighbours. The most revolting are the lifelong professed revolutionaries, the so-called socialists like Louis Proyectile Vomit and the clowns of the WSWS.

And they still have the nerve to pass themselves off as friends of the downtrodden?

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 19, 2021 7:31 AM
Reply to  October

You should see the carry on in Australia, now there is this idiot doctor, the one who started the con here, claiming Australia refused Pfizer jabs 6 months before the USA even approved them for emergency use.

Shelby
Shelby
Jun 19, 2021 12:17 PM

Instruct capable allies to immediately disconnect the transmission capability of the MSM . That is a start.

DaveMass
DaveMass
Jun 18, 2021 10:45 PM
Reply to  Skeptic

Please put left in inverted commas.
I don’t recognise myself in that crowd!

Arby
Arby
Jun 19, 2021 12:24 AM
Reply to  DaveMass

Same here.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jun 19, 2021 7:32 AM
Reply to  DaveMass

Nor do I, I can’t say I have been so embarrassed by them in all my life.

ConstantBees
ConstantBees
Jun 19, 2021 6:35 PM
Reply to  DaveMass

Me neither. But I think the Left has left many of us older lefties behind.

Ort
Ort
Jun 19, 2021 9:40 PM
Reply to  ConstantBees

The New Left has come and gone.

Perhaps the grotesque shadow that remains should be dubbed the “Now Left”– although I’ve borrowed a phrase from fundamentalist Christian fantasy and sometimes refer to them as the “Left Behind”. 😉

Koba
Koba
Jun 19, 2021 1:09 AM
Reply to  Skeptic

Sadly for me you’re very very correct. In my circle of people of the left theirs about 6 of us who are anti COVID let alone vaccines. Absolutely sickening to see people who spend years decrying night Pharma and the empire wanking themselves off furiously while staring at themselves in a mirror! Pathetic

October
October
Jun 18, 2021 9:30 PM

It is a real struggle to understand why the Indian government would shut down large parts of the Indian economy and put potentially hundreds of millions of poor people’s lives at risk of starvation by locking them in their houses because a tiny fraction of the population has caught a flu virus.

Is that not because the Indian government decided that its pharma industry was more valuable than the lives of certain citizens?

DM:
DM:
Jun 18, 2021 9:57 PM
Reply to  October

Yes.

Jo Dominich
Jo Dominich
Jun 19, 2021 12:53 AM
Reply to  October

Modi’s taken the Yankee dollar I’m afraid.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 18, 2021 9:30 PM

comment image
comment image

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 18, 2021 9:35 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

“One knows things have become really desperate for the Psychos when they lower the age of consent to 18 months.”
comment image
comment image

Arby
Arby
Jun 19, 2021 12:26 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

I’ve read bad things about C.S. Lewis, but I have to say that I like that.

Koba
Koba
Jun 19, 2021 1:12 AM
Reply to  Arby

Broken clocks
Two times a day
Yadda yadda

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 19, 2021 2:05 AM
Reply to  Arby

I’ve heard a couple of bad things too, but everything in his output that I’ve come across speaks very highly of him.
I think he made some enemies in high places…

Arby
Arby
Jun 19, 2021 3:30 AM
Reply to  wardropper

I honestly don’t know. I haven’t looked into it. It just means that I first need to look into it. Still, I liked the quote. It’s quite appropriate for now.

Waldorf
Waldorf
Jun 19, 2021 10:55 AM
Reply to  Arby

John Betjeman, one of his students, didn’t like him.
His relations with his landlady, Mrs Moore, led to gossip about him possibly having a sexual relationship with her.
Lewis was an Ulster Protestant by origin and this led to tensions with J.R.R. Tolkien, who was quite a devout Catholic. Tolkien thought Lewis still had a bit of Ulster in him though he was not aware of it.
I read a sort of postscript to The Screwtape Letters called Screwtape Proposes A Toast that he wrote. It seemed to be a sort of vehicle for attacking education reforms and developments that Lewis disliked, using his senior devil character Screwtape.
None of this is especially damning although I am not sure I would have liked Lewis if I had known him.

Arby
Arby
Jun 19, 2021 1:24 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

Acknowledged. Thanks for that.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 18, 2021 9:22 PM

comment image
comment image

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 18, 2021 9:27 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Would not be at all surprised if those numbers were far greater
comment image

Nice shirt. What about a Matt Hancock POS T-Shirt?

comment image

Shelby
Shelby
Jun 19, 2021 12:21 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

X 100 for actual reality on reports. Everyone is still asleep. This time being late for work could be the end.

Arby
Arby
Jun 19, 2021 12:30 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

“Defective Vaccines” implies that they can be good. If, by ‘good’, you mean ‘protects you from disease’, that’s so not the case. Vaccines are poison, period.

Shelby
Shelby
Jun 19, 2021 12:18 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Superb

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 18, 2021 9:19 PM

The thing that really pisses me off is that it doesn’t seem to matter how harmless covid is or how many people die of the vaccines and of the lockdowns both here and in india. The TV, the radio, the print media (i.e. that thundering MSM juggernaut that most people vegetate in front of) just carries on regardless with the tenth rate disaster movie script in which covid is the Apocalypse and the vax is Salvation.

On an on it goes. A month later. A year later. A millenium later.

richard
richard
Jun 18, 2021 9:39 PM
Reply to  George Mc

https://brandnewtube.com/watch/world-bank-lists-covid-19-as-a-project-running-from-02-apr-2020-to-31-mar-2025_qOZneZxTgnt9gZn.html
Haven’t verified this but sounds likely.
They probably figure there will be enough damage done by then to businesses and people…

Arby
Arby
Jun 19, 2021 12:32 AM
Reply to  richard

If it’s what I’m thinking of, I recall James Corbett pointing it out. They laid it all out, time-line and all.

Arby
Arby
Jun 19, 2021 1:37 AM
Reply to  Arby

It is. I’ve seen it before. Why didn’t I just click on your link? I’m tired.

Shipintheknight
Shipintheknight
Jun 18, 2021 10:17 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Precisely the problem – the majority just will not accept that they can be mislead by the same MSM that they form most of their opinions from.
Harder still for the likes of ourselves to counter that as the tactic seems to be omission and avoidance rather than outright lies.
I confess I am basing this on the odd non-bbc radio bulletin or subtitled public screening of sky news as I cannot bear the mainstream nonsense at all.

On a slightly separate observation, I watched a canoeist paddle down the middle of the Thames in Surrey yesterday fully masked. Just wtf…?

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 19, 2021 2:10 AM

Perhaps he’ll drown in his own water vapour…

Michael Canning
Michael Canning
Jun 19, 2021 9:32 AM

I can top the canoeist in Surrey with a snippet from Spain.
Here, you can breeze along on your E-Scooter on street and footpath —
no requirement for helmets, insurance , lights ,horns. Rules of the road
can be totally ignored. No laws at all apply to these carefree voyagers
except one —they must wear a MASK !!

Waldorf
Waldorf
Jun 19, 2021 11:15 AM

I have yet to see anyone dumb enough to go jogging with a mask on although I am sure they exist.
People who are exercising need to breathe freely, which a mask by its nature prevents.

Karenovirus
Karenovirus
Jun 19, 2021 5:34 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

Oooo i have seen it..at night empty street running with a mask on!!!! At park at night jogging only us and 2 idiots with double masks on! In car totally alone, windows open on highway with a mask and wait for it, gloves on!!!! These eyes have seen a person with 4 masks on..i did..

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Jun 19, 2021 7:49 PM
Reply to  Waldorf

I have seen those runners with masks here in the US. I know, hardly shocking, is it?

Blessthebeasts
Blessthebeasts
Jun 19, 2021 7:50 PM

Oh no–they are outright lying about everything!

kevin king
kevin king
Jun 19, 2021 12:19 AM
Reply to  George Mc

They are counting on you to give up and go along with it. It’s going to get a lot worse as you well know. We just have to make sure they don’t grind us down.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 19, 2021 2:10 AM
Reply to  kevin king

That’s the right message.
We stand together as long as we can, then we stand as individuals.

Shelby
Shelby
Jun 19, 2021 12:28 PM
Reply to  George Mc

If you witness an individual in a high vis and white hard hat unscrew Inc and dismantling all the Comms would you think that they were a Savoir or sabatour?

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jun 18, 2021 9:16 PM

We’ve had reports in our papers (in the US) of how you need “connections” to get hospital treatment for a relative or even to get them cremated if they die. There were also reports of the consequence of shutting down of the transport system last year and how poor people working as laborers in the cities had to literally walk great distances to get to their home villages.

I’ve no doubt there are huge logistical challenges facing the country but the recent news from India has been about how its been recruited as part of the group to ‘counter’ China, how its poised to take over from China as the source of manufactured good for the world and so on. I reckon this is not just wishful thinking but counter productive — a government focused on geopolitics becomes a government unable to care for its people.