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WATCH: Perspectives on the Pandemic #18 “One of the things that Covid rollout has done, is create a whole new category of forbidden speech…if you’re not completely credulous then you’re somehow “putting people at risk”.

The Interviewee: Mark Crispin Miller is Professor of Media, Culture and Communication at New York University. His research interests include modern propaganda, history and tactics of advertising, American film, and media ownership. He is the author of Boxed In: The Culture of TV; Seeing Through Movies; Mad Scientists: The Secret History of Modern Propaganda; Spectacle: Operation Desert Storm and the Triumph of Illusion; and The Bush Dyslexicon.

The Interviewer: John Kirby is the director of FOUR DIED TRYING, a feature documentary and series on the major assassinations of the 1960’s and their calamitous impact on the country. To join the struggle for justice for Dr. King, Malcolm X, and John and Robert Kennedy.

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Turning Moment
Turning Moment
Aug 25, 2021 1:32 PM

This is a compelling interview, and I find it interesting that Journeyman pictures can at the same time produce such transparent propaganda as this:

It was hard to find the ‘Perspectives on the Pandemic’ series on their pages.

Binra
Binra
Aug 24, 2021 5:37 PM

Resetting ‘reality’ is the attack on truth set at such intensity, that a new Lie is taken as the basis from which to ‘build’ a mindset that can ‘SEE’ the Emperor’s New Robes.
The narrative dogma maps out the permitted conception and perception. In the older, there is either a forced compliance or exclusion and die-off. But the younger will know nothing else, apart from intuitions that cannot find articulation – just as has been true throughout ‘history’ as seems continuous with the ongoing denial of truth.

Dissociation from Reality is dissociation from God+Creation that are Not Two.
Not a manufactured ‘god’ of belief, but Current Relational Awareness which is obscured and locally usurped by the masking, distancing lockdown to ‘Separation as Salvation’ – or conflict as the basis for a dissociative sense of private authoritative control. This ‘split mind’ is what Jesus referred to as a house divided against itself, or those who know not what they do BECAUSE they are operating under mind-control and blind to anything that is not within the frame of mind-control or ‘judgement’.

But the revealing of the devices by which awareness is discarded for an identity set in conflict serves the recognition of unmasked or un-manufactured perspective as an abidance that grows consciousness within the mind as the repurposing of conditioned ‘meanings and associated abilities’.

Suffice to say that the purpose we hold determines the meanings we give and receive, such that the alignment in healing or reintegrative awareness re-interprets to serve purpose. Not by manipulation or force but by re-cognising the basis from which the habit reaction occurs instead of reinforcing by reacting as if that purpose still has authority in our being. I use the ‘we’ here as applying to each in freedom, not as a collective. And yet the very Nature of relational being is shared. Illusion begotten of fear is a closed mind seeking autonomy, within limitation and struggle in which death always wins, and so assumes the role of ‘power over life’ set in image and form.

The unfolding of the Ego Script is the maintaining of such ‘power’ against Revelation or exposure in truth seen as ultimate threat. What else can a lie perceive unless we look within and re-evaluate our foundation – or rather allow recognition of a lack of true foundation, into which undoing is truth already present – now rising as Conscious.

We arrive at our starting place to know it for the first time.
This becomes the basis from which to live from willingness now, in place of object continuity as narrative identity set against change. Any attempt to ‘think’ what I write is not listening, but self-referencing modelling within self-image. Relational awareness is already Life, that we assign to bodies, objects, situations and mythological entities such as viruses.

The meanings and measure that we give out sets the measure of our receiving.
Shrink or swim!
Giving faith to life as an intuitive but inarticulate knowing, is our way of passing through the masking obfuscations and temptations. There are Wayshowers or those who have gone before, and there are others who share in purpose – even in the synchronicity of miracles within what seems a closed system.
What would be the opposite of trying to judge, predict and control everyone?

I may sketch out attempts to articulate but I notice Marshall Rosenberg offers practical illustrations of re-cognising the active need in others which often expresses in terms that we cannot usually recognise BECAUSE we are operating ‘enemy images’ instead of bringing awareness truly present.

https://willingness-to-listen.blogspot.com/2021/08/looking-within-or-beneath-symptoms.html

DimlyGlimpsed
DimlyGlimpsed
Aug 25, 2021 3:24 AM
Reply to  Binra

Could you package this into a pithy, ten-second sound byte to run on CNN or NPR?

Binra
Binra
Aug 25, 2021 8:17 AM
Reply to  DimlyGlimpsed

Do you mean run as a programming meme for a robotic refusal to accept life in place of a lie?

Samuel
Samuel
Aug 23, 2021 7:45 AM

Here in Brasil Bolsonaro is playing similar role. While the left is completely lost, trying to impeach him for not implementing lockdowns, promote choroquine, for not buying “vaccines” sooner. Most are even demanding mass vaccination, some even asked for total quarantine.
And around here the same preemptive debate on election security, with Bolsonaro playing Trump and pushing the left to reverse historical position in favor of having electronic but also a printed vote, now a demonized proposal aimed at delegitimizing the election.
It is a quarantine of reason.

Clemson
Clemson
Aug 23, 2021 8:04 PM
Reply to  Samuel

Man.. this warm my heart knowing there’s other brazilians out there that know what this bullshit is. As you said the left is completely lost even PCO party that seems to be the lesser evil is part of the script demanding vaccine for workers instead of the end of lockdowns (among other shitty leftist agendas) and the right believing in the virus lie and even getting vaccinated. What about Bolsonaro? Complete controlled op. buying vaccines approving feminist laws etc..
Also fuck the STF.

Alixia
Alixia
Aug 22, 2021 11:05 PM

Switch the tv off. It’s the least you can do. Oh and if you think you are forbidding speech then your not going to know what hit you babes. whoo.

Researcher
Researcher
Aug 23, 2021 2:20 AM
Reply to  Alixia

Ariana the no talent, donut licker and Illuminati shill who participated in the Manchester bombing hoax.

Geo Martin
Geo Martin
Aug 22, 2021 2:36 PM

The genius of all this is that in a democracy no one is accountable in a situation like this.
The politicians ‘in charge’ simply allege they are following the ADVICE given by medical experts, scientists and doctors; in turn these experts are following ‘the science’ abstraction. Who is to blame, the science?
Could we imagine a prime minister or president in front of a camera saying to the population ‘well, the experts, scientists and doctors are advising this, however I’ve made a decision not to follow that advice and continue as normal’?
To be honest the majority of the population would be outraged by those words.

So, the problem is a cultural one. We in this modern civilisation put blind trust in these experts. In an analogy, the very few ones who might go to a doctor and think twice before blindly following what the doctor recommends and seek for other alternatives, are the ones who have had a lot of trouble believing in the whole end of the world pandemic we have been presented with.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Aug 22, 2021 7:26 PM
Reply to  Geo Martin

Yeah, although on that last paragraph I don’t see that. I have a good friend, at least for now she’s still a friend but we’re already on thin ice there, who had a stroke at 40. Spent almost 3 months in the hospital, has recurring gastrointestinal issues probably due to that stroke and the treatment of it, and uses a naturopath for a lot of her care. She’s had issues with the medical industry, and is very skeptical of all the meds they’ve tried repeatedly to push on her. She uses diet to control most of her symptoms and it’s been pretty successful for most of them. Also rejects GMO foods and is very careful about finding “organic” produce, meat, etc. Fully vaxxed. Still somewhat tolerant of those of us who refuse, but does indeed get rather defensive when confronted with the FACT it has never guaranteed immunity and that has never been claimed even by the “brilliant scientists” who invented and marketed it. We don’t talk as much anymore, and she still thinks anyone who questions “the science” is from far out loony land and believes in “fake news.” I hold out little hope she’ll pull her head out of her ass anytime soon, and I would not doubt at all that she too will fully go along with passports, etc once they’re fully implemented. I guess the lesson there is those who in the past were skeptical of our medical industrial complex have lost all ability to be skeptical about the Megadeath Virus of Doom, and they also are now fully on board with the idea that anyone who is skeptical is their enemy. How long before my “friend” decides to turn me in for the heretic I am? Who knows, but I feel it coming.

Ort
Ort
Aug 22, 2021 8:25 PM
Reply to  Lizzyh7

has recurring gastrointestinal issues… I hold out little hope she’ll pull her head out of her ass anytime soon
________________________________________________

I’m no doctor or qualified healthcare professional, but I think you’ve put your finger on the cause of her recurring gastrointestinal issues: craniorectal inversion. 😉

I think I’ve shared my story about my friend M. with you before, so I won’t burden the bandwidth with a full recap. M.’s the one who very reluctantly got the Megadeath Virus of Doom pseudo-vaccine after “peer” pressure from her spouse and family, especially in-laws; her husband is in a care facility with advanced MS, and M. claimed that she had to give in and get jabbed in order to visit him after over a year of quarantine-mandated separation.

M. originally claimed to be “on the fence” about the legitimacy of the scamdemic, but was willing to discuss it with me. After she got the “vaccination”, she informed me with studied casualness that she didn’t want to discuss the scamdemic any more; she’d “heard so much on both sides” that she’d concluded that everyone has an opinion, but “no one” really knows the truth of the matter.

It’s obvious to me that her retreat to the “safe zone” of false equivalence is evidence of cognitive dissonance. Once one gets the MVD injection, there’s a powerful psychological inclination to obscure or deny inconvenient truths and consequences. 🙁

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Aug 22, 2021 8:53 PM
Reply to  Ort

You know, I think you may be right about head up ass and gastro issues!

I totally agree that those who’ve succumbed now have even more of a reason to hate those of us who will not – an “oh shit” moment for them might just happen if they listen to one word we say and they’re then forced to realize just what they’ve had shot into their body that they can never remove. And if that moment comes, then that head shoots right on out of that proverbial ass and then what? Well, they might just see how blinded they’ve been by inserting said head into said ass, and we can’t have that! How dare we point out where that head has been the entire time!

MaryLS
MaryLS
Aug 23, 2021 4:28 AM
Reply to  Lizzyh7

Unvaxed are being targeted as scape goats. It is a very well- entrenched phenomenon in human history. When people are fearful, they look for someone to blame. I belong to a group thst has just issued its formal policy for in- perdon get- togethers. ” Un-vaccinated are a threat to themselves and OTHERS!!! A complete lie. There is no evidence that unvaxed are a threat to others. I am disgusted.

Binra
Binra
Aug 24, 2021 6:39 PM
Reply to  MaryLS

There is no evidence that unvaxed are a threat to others.”

Not a threat to others but to the intention of establishing a biotech mind & body control system as a contraction of the patterns that were largely invisible as the old normal.
The global stakeholders protect their investment by the ‘too big to fail argument’ – ie – their systems or protections are all that stands between us and a ‘Chaos’ onto which we project our deepest fears so as to NOT allow. (IE Orwell’s room 101).
Bailing out the Bankers is part of a pattern that ‘saves the Model or System by mass sacrifice induced as a social credit or ‘virtue’ as limiting and mitigating fear of total overwhelm or loss of self. Corrupted power always equates its role as the ‘protector of the Soul of the Nation, or the Protector and redeemer of the species etc. And justifies by seeing every other possibility as an evil from which their imperfect results are the lesser of evils presented as the surviving ‘good’. This is how we redefine pain as joy or slavery as freedom, for true joy and freedom are ‘Dead’ like God or broken and lost to Grievance that now defines all that remains.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Aug 24, 2021 10:25 PM
Reply to  MaryLS

RE: When people are fearful, they look for someone to blame.

Fear is stoked by those in power and then scapegoats manufactured to channel that fear into politically opportunistic directions. It rarely occurs passively, it must be actively created.

Geo Martin
Geo Martin
Aug 23, 2021 12:59 PM
Reply to  Lizzyh7

Good example, yes, there’s that angle as well. The contradictions that the system itself generates in people such as all those tree huggers ‘eco warriors’ that have been absolutely silent about the pharma industry highly contaminating products like these injections, masks, etc.
Or the vegans who up until yesterday were against allopatic medicine and now most of them fully vaxxed; not surprising given that they stand horrified at people eating eggs as they call it ‘cows period’ and yet are in full support for abortion.

Finally the contradiciton that no one sees is the fact that all of the big vaxx pushers have been peddling for decades that the problems of the world lay at our feet for being too many, are now peddling this product to ‘save all our lives’ so we continue to be this many. Unbelievable.

DimlyGlimpsed
DimlyGlimpsed
Aug 25, 2021 3:43 AM
Reply to  Geo Martin

This is a straw man argument.

I’m vegan, love tree-hugging and I care about the environment. Most of the people in the community I know do not trust Big Pharma, are not silent, have not been vaxxed, and many do not support abortion.

It would be interesting to compare examples of hypocrisy among vegans, tree huggers, anti-abortionists. meat eaters and “vaxx pushers”. Where do you stand on abortion?

I’d venture there is plenty of hypocrisy to go around. The attempt to sow division and single out vegans and environmentalism in regard to Covid seems rather unproductive, not to mention defensive. Not an effective way to win friends and influence people.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 22, 2021 9:23 AM

Propaganda works in layers i.e. there are various levels which are permitted – including “radical” levels i.e. theories which appear radical but only serve to reinforce the basic fraud.

And thus I was surprised to find my covid believing wife watching a video of Russell Brand on covid. I thought our Russell might be raising a few interesting questions. But on sampling a bit of this video, I hear noises about “Where did this virus really come from …” etc.

Again 9/11 déjà vu i.e. all opposition to the official account accepts the same parameters of the official account. You may believe 9/11 was allowed to happen because of a stand-down order but you must still believe that it was an attack by external forces! Likewise with covid, you can mistrust the govt as much as you want but you must still believe there is a deadly virus!

These pseudo radical positions are less than useless. For as long as you accept that covid 19 really is deadly you are stuck with these sentiments:

“Oh my God! We are all in danger!”

“Oh my God! We must protect ourselves, have lockdowns, wear masks, have vaccines, socially distance!” etc.

2fat2surf
2fat2surf
Aug 22, 2021 2:28 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Well said.
I suggest 911 is where they showed their hand. It is an obvious false flag attack designed to do all it did; New NKVD agency the Dept of Homeland Security and an endless war on Terrorism. Just to name a few.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 22, 2021 2:36 PM
Reply to  2fat2surf

9/11 was a psyop, not a false-flag attack. A p-s-y-o-p. Generally, I think it’s best to think of events as psyops rather than false flags which can be a misleading term.

The best one hour you can spend on 9/11 is watching this video by a Russian couple who have the website, Earthly Fireflies. Below the video is a transcript with a bookmarked Table of Contents.
http://www.earthlyfireflies.org/911-fraud/

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
Aug 22, 2021 7:40 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

False flag in only the perps scapegoated others.
Mossad and CIA joint affair.

2fat2surf
2fat2surf
Aug 22, 2021 11:18 PM
Reply to  Ernest Judd

Took the words out of my mouth.
Christopher Bollyn has excellent videos on the subject of 911 and points fingers at those who have had knowledge beforehand. .

Do I agree with everything he says? I haven’t heard everything he’s said. From what I’ve seen his reasoning and evidence are powerful.

I keep saying get those behind 911 and you’ll get those behind this covid fraud. If we let them slide they’er going to do it again.

Oops I forgot for a moment they’re doing it to us right now with this covid fraud.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 23, 2021 1:14 AM
Reply to  2fat2surf

He’s controlled opposition. Please watch the video from Olga Klimova. 9/11 was NOT a false-flag attack, OK? It was a psyop. “False-flag attack (with or without massive involvement by Mossad)” is second-level propaganda pushed by people such as Bollyn.
http://www.earthlyfireflies.org/911-fraud/

Sure, Mossad was involved but thousands were in on it. It was no coincidence that Little Johnny Howard, Australia’s PM, was in Washington on the fateful day.

The film shows alleged 9/11 survivor, Marlene Cruz, in Bellevue Hospital, a hospital for patients with mental illness and yet on the day all the hospitals for treating patients with physical injuries had empty stretchers waiting to be filled. Notice how Marlene has her head lifted from the pillow and how much the media person interviewing her refers to Bellevue (the hospital name is placed behind her head). Why would they put her in a hospital for mental patients and why would they advertise it? It’s all hidden in plain sight and both the media guy and the alleged patient are acting in this psyop, NOT a false-flag attack. Note the media guy’s smirk and how he touches his nose at the end of his interview – a deliberate sign of lying.

DimlyGlimpsed
DimlyGlimpsed
Aug 25, 2021 3:59 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

It should be obvious to all by now that the official 9/11 narrative is a pack of lies from beginning to end. What is the usefulness in distinguishing 9/11 as a psyop rather than a false flag?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 25, 2021 4:22 AM
Reply to  DimlyGlimpsed

I have to say I find it quite incredible that you’re asking that question, I really do. My epiphanous awakening to the massive propaganda campaign directed at truthers to make us believe in real death and injury after four years of serious study was like a total bombshell to me, a total bombshell and when people ask what’s the difference between them killing the people for real and not killing them I just don’t know what to say. If that isn’t significant to you I just do not know what to say.

But the thing is if they’ve invested millions in their truther-targeted propaganda campaign to make us truthers believe in real death and injury whether you personally can see its importance or not we know it must be important otherwise they wouldn’t have implemented it, their propaganda strategy would have been different. What I do trust the power elite to do is know which is the most effective propaganda strategy to implement, I trust them on that.

I believe it’s all wrapped up in the tabooness of it and the unbelievability that the US government would kill their own citizens in such a callous way. It simply won’t fly.

And, of course, it’s worked a treat hasn’t it?

Their story is ludicrous in the extreme but most people believe it nevertheless.

From Gerard Holmgren, pioneering Australian 9/11 analyst who sadly died from a brain tumour in 2010. Although Gerard knew some death was staged (the planes) he didn’t fully awaken to all death and injury as far as I can tell.

​”The official story required either that one descended into total intellectual senility in order to still believe it – perhaps deliberately made ridiculous for that very purpose – or else that one keep one’s intellect alive but destroy almost everything that one had previously believed about how society works.”
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/gerard-holmgren.html

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 25, 2021 5:32 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Do you recall a little while ago suddenly backtracking and saying a)you weren’t claiming no one died that day, just not 3,000 people and b)that the number of deaths wasn’t the most important thing anyway?

So, why are you again saying no one died and it’s the the only thing that matters?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 25, 2021 5:58 AM

Can we make a deal, Sophie? What I always mean to say is that death and injury were staged and that there is not a single skerrick of evidence of death or injury that is remotely convincing while there is ample evidence of staging of death and injury.

This is my claim – if I say “no one died” it’s a slip. I cannot see the use of the term “no one” above so I’m not quite sure what you’re referring to but this is my claim and please understand that that is always what I mean. Of course, I cannot say no one died, can I? Someone could have died accidentally or whatever.

What I’m curious to know is what you believe, Sophie, and why? What do you believe about death and injury on 9/11?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 26, 2021 8:50 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

I don’t have many fixed beliefs about anything. I try to keep an open mind.

I used to live and go to school in NYC. I was a little kid living in the East Village when 9/11 happened but my family were in Connecticut at the time so we missed the live show. Later I lived in SoHo and near Battery Park, so I know the area as a real live place.

Seems unlikely to me, knowing the financial district, they could bring down two buildings that size on a Tuesday morning between 8 and 10 and avoid killing people unless they evacuated the whole of Lower Manhattan.

At very least they’d have needed to evacuate the whole WTC complex. And that would be thousands of people in the offices, restaurants, stores, bars and apartments who all knew they’d been evacuated and would have told thousands of other people about it. Impossible to keep an evacuation on that scale quiet imo.

I can see how they might have dialed back the numbers of people actually in the twin towers on the day by closing certain businesses for the day etc, and I think there’s evidence for that. But I highly doubt they could literally shut down both buildings without – again – some personal experiences of that leaking out.

Where are the ordinary office workers saying “weird my boss told me to stay home that day”?

The idea no firefighters died I think is a bit nuts. That would mean no firefighters were in the buildings trying to put out the fires, which would mean someone ordered the entire NY fire dept to stand down, and again not one single ordinary firefighter came forward to say this happened.

Firefighters are brave conscientious people. If they were aware of mass stand downs being ordered some of them at least would say so to truth seekers. Like the EMTs did at Sandy Hook.

Even if they tried to minimize deaths for practical reasons, I don’t see how they could avoid killing substantial numbers one way or another.

But look, if you accept some people did die on 9/11, then what actually is your point?

If ‘only’ 300 people died how does that change the essential facts about that day and the subsequent 20 years of war and tyranny?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 26, 2021 1:37 PM

I’d like to clarify being certain about something and openmindedness. They’re not mutually exclusive. I’m certain that death and injury were staged on 9/11, I have no doubt. That is an absolute fact. Whether anyone died at all is another matter but certainly death and injury were staged. The evidence is overwhelming from a number of angles.

To be certain doesn’t mean having a fixed mind. I think I have a pretty agile mind in fact and I’m prepared to make an about-face on my beliefs when evidence or good reason is presented to me to change my mind.

You say you don’t have a fixed mind, Sophie, but you’re showing signs. We’ve been the evacuation of the WTC route before but you seem very hung up on the impossibility of it. Apparently, it was done. 50 drills were conducted and somehow they evacuated enough of Lower Manhattan to avoid death and injury.

Where are the ordinary office workers saying “weird my boss told me to stay home that day”?

Where is everyone asking the obvious questions, Sophie? Why were no questions asked in Congress? Are you kidding me? Why aren’t journalists asking the right questions? Hardly a soul’s asking questions but you think office workers should be?

Let’s Roll Forums had some great stuff on the firefighters but unfortunately their site went down and it isn’t back up again yet.

They told us 3,000 people were killed and 6,000 were injured, Sophie. That’s what they told us.

However, there isn’t a single skerrick of evidence that supports any single person being killed or injured while there’s ample evidence of faked injury and some of faked death not to mention of course the 265 alleged passengers.

I’m not sure what you need for proof of staged death and injury. Perhaps you’d need to see all the alleged graves dug up and shown to be empty.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 26, 2021 2:39 PM

Just to add:

Evidence has primacy.

Your argument that “they would have had to evacuate Lower Manhattan – implied they couldn’t have” is speculation. We don’t know exactly what they did or how they did it but what we do know, what the evidence indicates in absolute abundance from every single possible angle is that death and injury were staged.

The impossible evacuation is like the specious argument that the explosives couldn’t have been laid in the buildings. Of course they could and even if we haven’t a clue how they did it we know the buildings came down by controlled demolition.

The evidence tells us controlled demolition regardless of difficulty of laying explosives.

Similarly, the evidence tells us staged death and injury regardless of difficulty of evacuating Lower Manhattan.

Hugh O’NEILL
Hugh O’NEILL
Aug 25, 2021 8:35 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Marlene described hearing a bomb go off, which reminded her of the previous bombing. She sounds credible.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Aug 23, 2021 2:50 PM
Reply to  2fat2surf

Hello 2fat2surf: Yes. Christopher Bollyn is one of thousands of persons who accurately researched and documented the events of 9/11/2001. His sequential study of the event was one of the first studies pointing to collusion of the US air defense secretary. Also, one of the first to question what happened to building 6.

The sheep stare at their cell phones, and whine like lost puppies…

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 25, 2021 3:16 AM

Paul, Christopher Bollyn is controlled opposition like most prominent truthers. “9/11 Truth” is an absolutely massive propaganda campaign that took effect even before 9/11 in which genuine prominent truthers are few and far between.

Please watch this extremely illuminating one-hour film by Russian, Olga Klimova.
http://www.earthlyfireflies.org/911-fraud/

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 26, 2021 9:01 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Why do you feel justified to make these sweeping claims about people you don’t know based on little to no evidence?

There’s good reason to describe Judy Wood as a potential controlled op because her narrative is poorly sourced, she took up with the con artist Hutchinson and did her best to create divisions by attacking other people in the 9/11 movement.

But she’s one person.

What about leaders such as Kevin Ryan, Richard Gage, Steven Jones, Graeme McQueen, Niels Harrit, David Griffin?

Are you claiming these guys are controlled op? Based on what?

Why are they suspicious to you but guys on YouTube claiming the towers were hollow aluminum tubes full of fake dust are, in your opinion, solid gold?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 26, 2021 9:48 AM

Sweeping claims? No they’re not sweeping claims, Sophie, they’re claims based on the clear evidence of a propaganda campaign targeted at the anticipated disbelievers of the official story. One stream of this propaganda is the anti-Zionist/anti-Israel stream that has those inclined to that ideology to blame 9/11 on Israel. Geez, Sophie, you’re a hard person to get through to. I’ve talked about this quite a few times.

I remember when I saw the video of the “Dancing Israelis” and the story about those in the video being caught in a road block in a white van containing explosives dust.

Totally swallowing it, I thought to myself, “Oh I see they used outsiders to do the dastardly deed of killing all those poor people in the buildings. They didn’t use US citizens, they used Israelis.

Absurd, of course. As if the demolition guys were leaving town with explosives dust in their van. Absurd in the extreme but I swallowed it as have seemingly thousands of others.

But even when I believed it I still thought all the anti-Zionist/Israel propaganda strange because I thought, “Well, regardless of how involved Israel was, it was done under the auspices of the US government and it’s they who are responsible in the first instance.” But lots of people think it was Israel who were responsible. Their propaganda has worked an absolute treat. Focusing people on WHO did it is a way of keeping them away from what 9/11 really was and that is a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise pushed out as a real event just like this Full-Scale Pandemic Exercise where a significant difference is that death and injury are really happening in quite frightening numbers in the pandemic exercise while they were staged in 9/11.

Anyone who believes that death and injury were real are controlled opposition but some are paid and some have had their beliefs controlled by the paid controlled opposition – I mean, that’s the paid controlled opposition’s job right it’s to control the minds of the genuine opposition.

I have no doubt that Graeme MacQueen and David Griffin are genuine while the others I’d say are paid because they seem to be occupied keeping the focus on controlled demolition while keeping the focus off the more revealing planes and, of course, death and injury. Graeme and David acknowledge the planes while the others tend to avoid the planes as far as I can tell or try to keep it vague.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 28, 2021 9:52 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Ok so you took SEVEN paras to say “I think they’re phony because they don’t agree with me”.

So, you have absolutely no evidence they’re paid disinfo at all. You are just so hubristic and naive you can’t grasp the idea some qualified scientists or professional journalists might honestly see the situation differently from the way you do. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 29, 2021 1:52 AM

Oh dear, Sophie, oh dear. You’re very free with the ad homs, aren’t you?

I’m not hubristic, Sophie, I simply have absolute respect for the evidence and the evidence tells all. You, on the other hand, do not have absolute respect for the evidence, you put more store in your speculations and beliefs, such as people must have been killed because in order not to kill them a complete evacuation of Lower Manhattan would have had to be conducted and you don’t believe that happened.

You don’t know what happened down in Lower Manhattan on 9/11, Sophie, before the buildings came down, you haven’t a clue and I don’t either although I certainly read that they conducted a large number of drills including subway drills.

I don’t know what happened to ensure that people weren’t in the buildings but I do know that there isn’t a skerrick of evidence that shows any of the 9,000 people alleged to have been killed and injured were. Not a single skerrick and when the evidence shows that I claim that they did the necessary to evacuate the buildings or – and probably very likely – ensured there were very few in the buildings to start off with. I’m not saying no one died because I certainly cannot make that claim with confidence but the claim I can make with confidence is that death and injury were staged.

Now the question is, why after so long do so many people who recognise the lies of the buildings and the planes, why is that so few of those people recognise that death and injury were staged, including, it seems even though I’ve said it so many times in so many ways, you.

It has to be propaganda doesn’t it? Because the visual evidence is very clear, the ludicrous survivor stories are very clear, the clear evidence that stretchers put out for the injured were empty, etc. There is simply nowhere to find evidence of death and injury. I remember myself looking at the visual evidence when the penny dropped that death and injury were staged and face-palming at how ludicrously obvious it was. I kicked myself for not looking earlier and I recognised that the reason I didn’t look (because I’d certainly looked at the visual evidence for other events such as Sandy Hook and the Manchester bombing) was that the propaganda had been so effective in persuading me of death and injury I simply didn’t think to check the visual evidence.

So let’s check out Christopher Bollyn and his Israel schtick.

1. Israel didn’t “do” 9/11, I hope you’ll agree with that. It wasn’t “responsible” for 9/11 and yet a lot of people will say “Israel”. Australia’s PM, Little Johnny Howard, was in Washington on the fateful day, he played his little role too. And you don’t think Tony Blair didn’t know, do you? Everyone was in on 9/11 – Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, you name it, there were all in on it.

2. The “Dancing Israelis” and the white van stopped in a road block containing explosives dust were staged. I hope you’ll agree with that. If not, please say why.

3. The Israeli “art students” while probably being Mossad agents or similar and probably genuinely doing the job of creating the images involved in faking the jumpers were deliberately chosen to be Israeli. They could have easily chosen US citizens to do the job but they deliberately chose Israelis to help with the distracting Israel-dun-it propaganda.

Even when I believed the Israeli propaganda, even then, I still wondered about why there was the push to say Israel did it when obviously it all had to be under the auspices of the US government.

I’m not going to bore you with any more analysis of the others although I could. If you think that Christopher Bollyn is NOT controlled opposition please give your reasons.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 30, 2021 7:06 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

You have absolute respect for “the evidence” because by “the evidence” you mean your opinion about the evidence! You select what to believe and call ‘evidence’ and what to ignore and call ‘disinfo’ based entirely on how you feel about it. 🤣

Why don’t you EVER answer questions succinctly and directly rather than rambling on for ten paras about stuff I didn’t ask.

I specifically asked to to tell me why you believe a specific list of prominent truthers are controlled op. You, as usual, ignore the question because you can’t answer it, and talk about Christopher Bollyn!

Ok, he talks BS about Israelis. NOT what I asked you about though is it? 🤦‍♀️

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 30, 2021 8:17 AM

My apologies, Sophie. The first criticism you made of me was of Bollyn so as he was a person I could easily respond on I responded on him. I’m not going to respond on the others because it would require too much digging back – just to say as I already said, I feel very certain MacQueen and Griffin are not while I think all the others are – one clue is always what people say about the planes – if they don’t come out and say all four were faked then they’re very dubious but then some controlled opposition may also claim fakery for all four planes and some genuine people may believe in the planes so it’s not as simple as that.

You have absolute respect for “the evidence” because by “the evidence” you mean your opinion about the evidence! 

This is patently untrue. There isn’t a single skerrick of evidence that favours “real” death and injury over “staged” for 9/11. If you have any please give it to me and if you don’t please tell me how my thinking is not evidence-based.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 31, 2021 9:27 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

As I said in a previous comment, Sophie, it is rather you who puts more store in your speculations and beliefs than I do. Instinctively, I distinguish between my opinion (which when it comes to fact-based matters I know counts for nought) and fact. When I consulted the audio between the astronauts and mission control I thought, “No way could this be faked,” but others think that it could. It’s my opinion vs theirs which doesn’t go anywhere does it?

However, if we use Occam’s Razor we can consult the incontrovertible facts and say:
— No one’s identified any fakery in the audio
— They did hours and hours of it which wouldn’t have been necessary for fakery purposes and each extra hour would surely create more scope for detection of fakery
So the purported evidence of the audio favours real over fake.

Incontrovertible 9/11 facts:
— All purported evidence for death and injury is either obviously fake or doesn’t favour real over fake.
— A propaganda campaign was targeted at the anticipated disbelievers of the terrorist story to maintain their belief in death and injury

Speculation:
They would have had to evacuate Lower Manhattan to avoid death and injury and they wouldn’t have been able to do that, office workers would be puzzled, etc

I have no doubt office workers were puzzled as were many, many other people but the perps don’t worry about puzzling people, they’re perfectly happy to puzzle people, they’re easier to control that way.

Evidence has primacy, Sophie. Speculation and so on has its place but if the evidence clearly says one thing don’t bring idle speculation about what should, would, could have happened into your thinking. Let the evidence guide you – there’s an overwhelming amount of it, no need to indulge in speculation. If something is clearly physical impossible sure but a full evacuation of Lower Manhattan wasn’t physically impossible and we simply don’t know enough about what evacuation was required or other details to speak authoritatively on the subject. Moreover, killing around 300 people really would have been quite problematic not nearly as clean as killing no one or just a couple of people.

Please, Sophie, disabuse yourself of the completely unsupported notion that some people needed to be killed. They did not.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 23, 2021 1:16 AM
Reply to  Ernest Judd

No, Ernest! Not a false-flag “in only” anything. It was a psyop through and through. Pls see my comment below to 2fat2surf.

Judith
Judith
Aug 23, 2021 5:34 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Well, Petra, Miss Olga did make an error.

She questioned the existence of Fr. Michael Judge.

I know for a fact that there was a Fr. Michael Judge. I know where he lived in New York City. I am friends with a very good friend of his.

I don’t believe one word of the official story of 9/11. Beyond that I have no firmly held beliefs of how it happened.

Olga has some interesting theories, and some of the clips are precious. Bellevue Hospital being one.

But she’s wrong about Judge.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 24, 2021 1:11 PM
Reply to  Judith

That’s interesting, Judith. According to the transcript she says:

“Another figure made into a top choice for a fleshy being on the victims list – Father Mychal Judge – who may not have actually existed.”

So seemingly she doesn’t say he didn’t exist only that he may not have existed which is not quite the same and not what I’d call an error, just a speculation.

So I wonder what happened to Father Michael.

Apart from speculations about whether people actually existed or not I find what she says pretty evidence-based so I wonder what you’d consider more in the area of “theory”.

Judith
Judith
Aug 24, 2021 10:05 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Petra,

I really don’t care what anyone’s theories are. To each his/her own. Could have been planes, maybe not. Could have been directed energy, maybe not. I’m not invested in one theory or another. I just don’t believe in the official government version.

But “may or may not exist” is not mere innocent speculation in this case. Not in the context.

She’s free to say anything she likes. I am just pointing out the truth of the matter. He DID exist.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 25, 2021 3:04 AM
Reply to  Judith

Judith,

It was two years into my study of psyops before I learnt that they always tell us the truth underneath the propaganda, known as, “hidden in plain sight” and “revelation of the method”. I’m quite sure that the reason I’m drawn to psyops is that we don’t have to “theorise” much at all about stuff because the basic psyop narrative is so obviously flawed … and then where it isn’t they TELL us anyway. I’m very much an armchair analyst and what appeals is that all you have to do to work out most things is simply look at the complete BS they present to you and work out the BSedness of it.

Of 9,000 people who allegedly died or were injured on 9/11 they didn’t show us a SINGLE – not a SINGLE convincing image of anyone injured or dead … and what’s more they made most of their images very very obviously fake such as Marlene Cruz with her ludicrously awkwardly raised head in her mental hospital bed. They overegg the omelet something extraordinary.

There is no THEORY about the planes, they obviously faked them. Newton’s Laws of Motion apply equally horizontally as vertically.

There is no THEORY that the buildings came down by controlled demolition, it’s beyond obvious.

There is no THEORY that death and injury were staged because there isn’t a single skerrick of evidence that they weren’t staged and there’s masses saying they were.

Yes, there is theory about who was actually real and who wasn’t although perhaps if we knew psyop MO better we’d be able to tell who was who but it doesn’t matter who was faked and who was real – we know death was staged. Obviously, Barbara Olson was real … but we know she didn’t die in a plane crash.

I’m not sure why you say “not speculation in the context” in relation to Father Mychal. She uses the word “may” which indicates speculation, it’s simple semantics, Judith, it’s speculation. She doesn’t personally know all the people or have evidence of their existence so the odd speculation about someone’s existence is perfectly reasonable.

Olga only theorised about the priest being real, she simply speculated but where she claims fact I think what she says is 100% evidence-based and where she speculates she makes it clear she’s only speculating.

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER

I’m completely not on board with the notion that all we have to do is point out that the official narrative is false. If WE can work out the truth then let’s work it out and the fact is that when they psyop us they always give sufficient information to work out all the most pertinent information. Who was real and who was fake in the 3,000 people who died simply doesn’t matter but the fact of staged death and injury most certainly does matter and we can work that out for ourselves.

DimlyGlimpsed
DimlyGlimpsed
Aug 25, 2021 4:17 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

9/11 Truthers arguing and attempting to discredit each other’s theories has been fodder for mass media and “debunkers” to attack and discredit the Truther movement. That you say no one died is merely your opinion. If your conclusion that no one died were tested and found to be false, that would not falsify the greater conclusion that 9/11 was an event orchestrated and implemented by key people within U.S. agencies, foreign governments, NGOs, and corporations. Insisting on particular interpretations and details isn’t the goal. Our job is to build broad public support for a new, independent, and competent investigation of 9/11 which will adjudge fact and refer criminal charges against the people responsible.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 25, 2021 5:34 AM
Reply to  DimlyGlimpsed

9/11 Truthers arguing and attempting to discredit each other’s theories has been fodder for mass media and “debunkers” to attack and discredit the Truther movement.

Certainly won’t argue with you there.

That you say no one died is merely your opinion.

No it is NOT my opinion, I have no interest in arguing my opinion in this kind of situation. It is a claim based 100% on evidence. To believe that death and injury weren’t staged you need a single skerrick of evidence they weren’t. If you cannot provide that single skerrick – and I’ve asked numerous people who dispute my claim for one who haven’t been able to provide it – then there is zero validity in the claim that death and injury were real and there’s 100% validity in saying they were staged as a ton of evidence of this claim is provided.

Just watch the video, OK, it’s very illuminating.
http://www.earthlyfireflies.org/911-fraud/

Binra
Binra
Aug 24, 2021 7:17 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Fair enough but falsely assigned is any cover story serving as diversion from a true account. Fear is then falsely assigned to externals that may not exist or are narratives of obfuscation such as virus theory.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 22, 2021 2:40 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Where did the virus come from – yeah, drives you mad, doesn’t it? I knew in advance there’d be all the different streams to confuse, mislead and fragment.

There’s more levels to 9/11. The duplicity is very multi-layered, George.

Please watch this one-hour video by a Russian couple. It tells you everything you need to know.
http://www.earthlyfireflies.org/911-fraud/

Binra
Binra
Aug 24, 2021 7:29 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

If we invest in (or react to) the narrative as a sense of personal identification, then we have skin it its game and are in that sense struggling within its framing.

Taking this all the way, if you invest and identify in narrative identity, you are directed by self image in your own version of ‘My Story’ as your current experience within the framework provided – most of which runs invisible.
That which identifies truly is reflected in the two Commandments associated with Jesus – or even the Golden Rule.

The lie and the father of it are the wish truth be different than it is. How then can you know who you are if that set you/us in struggle of illusions set against feared truth – which is not Reality so much as reality seen through a glass darkly.

Arguing/struggling with lies or deceit is pursued in a belief it must accept its lack of substance. It cannot see or hear anything – being set as the mind of dissociation and substitution for a real relationship.

Instead of presuming a virus, look where the idea came from and the various iterations of its mutation, and you look both back in time and within the framing of the mind we think to see with.

Alixia
Alixia
Aug 22, 2021 11:19 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Just don’t go near the allopaths and their potions.

Geo Martin
Geo Martin
Aug 23, 2021 1:07 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Yes, that’s why the ‘lab’ theory is another version of the same story given by the system itself. In my opinion, everything that is revealed and/or ‘leaked’ via the establishment’s channel and that includes a lot of the alternative media is there to confuse and obfuscate.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 22, 2021 9:17 AM

Anyone vilified whenever you make comparisons with the Third Reich?

Show ’em this … from a Holocaust survivor herself who says – if you can believe it – “This is more insidious.”

https://www.facebook.com/airotciv97/videos/2874273616216522

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 22, 2021 12:12 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

I don’t have facebook. Can’t watch it. What does she say?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 23, 2021 3:23 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Don’t need to be registered to tiktok to view.
https://www.tiktok.com/@calieitis/video/6997927549800074498

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
Aug 22, 2021 7:44 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Please provide a transcript of some of the meaty bits.
I don’t facecrack.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 23, 2021 3:22 AM
Reply to  Ernest Judd

This is the tiktok link. You don’t need to be registered to view it. It’s only 3 minutes but in it she says:
https://www.tiktok.com/@calieitis/video/6997927549800074498

At the time they didn’t tell them “it was for our own good, we knew what was happening.”
The mask is like the star of David.
We must disobey.

Alixia
Alixia
Aug 22, 2021 11:09 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

not even close. these lot have killed way more than the 3rd reich. it must be billions with their “vaccines” and fake health care system over the last hudreds of years.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Aug 23, 2021 12:58 AM
Reply to  Alixia

Good point, Alixia.

Annette
Annette
Aug 22, 2021 9:02 AM

Do you want to know what reunions of the French resistance consist of?! Sitting in a circle in an orchard, with each telling their little story, how mummy got vaccinated, or my child got vaccinated, or Im about to lose my job, and then the person bursts into tears. And all others repeat: its ok, dont worry, now you’re with friends. Hold on to higher vibrations. Peace be on earth. And it moves on to the next person. And incessant smiles, everyone smiles, and incessant repetitions, we are now friends, be kind. Im expecting them to say next lets all hold hands and kiss one other.

Reminds anyone of anything? It feels like a sect, and frankly were I the French authorities, Id simply apply the laws against sects, and take everyone to the police station. 48 out of the 50 would be so frightened, there would only be about 2 left for actually any constructive action, or possibly none, since those capable are keeping away from joining in anything as they know this is no real resistance.
And the messages on the network page: “coucou, fellow conspi”, “where are you”, “daddy says I cant go to his birthday unless im vaxxed”.

Im not parodying or making this up. I dont even have the imagination for it.

Oh, and Im told (have written evidence) you have to pay to protest in Paris now, oh yes you have to pay the organizers, or at least you’re supposed to, guess it cant be enforced, or will they have entrance gates put it, where you have to give your contribution?

October
October
Aug 22, 2021 11:55 AM
Reply to  Annette

Oh dear, it looks like the new dawn you announced some time ago is not coming yet.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Aug 22, 2021 3:17 PM
Reply to  Annette

Hello Annette: I don’t get the down votes. Your description of the French covid reunion sounds like an old fashioned Alcoholics Anonymous meeting. The !2 steps lead to abject helplessness…

Geo Martin
Geo Martin
Aug 23, 2021 1:32 PM

That’s true. You become a ‘recovering alcoholic’ for the rest of your years. I knew someone who used to say ‘I’m a recovering alcoholic of 40 years’, when on earth are you going to be recovered then?

DimlyGlimpsed
DimlyGlimpsed
Aug 25, 2021 4:25 AM
Reply to  Annette

Agree with Paul. Gratuitous downvotes.

Maiasta
Maiasta
Aug 22, 2021 8:58 AM

Massive popular opposition to the ‘vaccine’ in Martinique and Guadeloupe. Vax clinics have been burned down, according to TeleSur. In response, the French government has confiscated all Ivermectin stocks, in order to force compliance with mandatory jab:

https://yvymaraey.blogspot.com/2021/08/martinique-and-guadeloupe-ivermectin.html

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 22, 2021 12:13 PM
Reply to  Maiasta

France…the home of liberty, equality and freedom

Maiasta
Maiasta
Aug 22, 2021 4:58 PM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Once upon a time.

At least they’re not alone in their loss of liberty.

jimbo
jimbo
Aug 22, 2021 8:52 AM

Edwige
Edwige
Aug 22, 2021 9:24 AM
Reply to  jimbo

“The absurdly meteoric rise of Buffalo Springfield. On April 11 1966, just five days after the quartet had supposedly first met and just two days after they had added a drummer and acquired instruments, the band played its first club date at one of Hollywood’s most prestigious venues, the Troubadour. Four days later, on April 15, they played the first of six dates around the southland opening for the Byrds, the hottest band on the Strip. That mini-tour was followed almost immediately by a six-week stand at the hottest club in town, the Whiskey-a-Go-Go… A month later, on July 25, the band landed the opening slot on the most anticipated concert of the year – the Rolling Stones show at the Hollywood Bowl”…

“Buffalo Springfield had signed with Atlantic Records, which had been founded in 1947 by Ahmet Ertegub and dentist/investor Herb Abramson. Born in Istanbul, Turkey in 1923, the year the Turk Republic was founded, Ahmet was both the son and grandson of career diplomatical servants. His father had been named the first Turkish representative to the League of Nations in 1925 and thereafter served as the Turk Republic’s ambassador to Switzerland, France and England . In 1935, he was named the first Turkish ambassador to the United States and he promptly re-located the family to Washington D.C. From the age of twelve, Ahmet grew up along D.C.’s Embassy Row, attending elite private schools with the sons and daughters of senators, congressmen and intelligence operatives”….

“Einarson describes William Stills [Stephen’s father] as ‘Somewhat of a soldier of fortune, an engineer, builder, and dreamer who frequently uprooted the family to follow his dreams and schemes’. That is, I suppose, as good a defintion as any for what he actually appears to have been: a military intelligence operative…. Stephen’s childhood was spent in Illinois, Texas, Louisiana, Florida, and various parts of Central America, includinf Costa Rica, El Salvador and the Panama Canal Zone. At a fairly young age, Stills attended the Admiral Farragut Military Academy in St Petersburg, Florida. In later years, His authoritarian manner and military bearing would earn him the nickname ‘The Sarge’… Stills himself has… at times claimed that he served a stint in Vietnam.”

Dave McGowan, Weird Scenes inside the Canyon, p151-6.

Buffalo Springfield do at least appear to have been competent musicians who appeared on their nominal records unlike The Byrds or the Mamas and the Papas (to name but two).

Geo Martin
Geo Martin
Aug 22, 2021 1:56 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Similar thing with the Doors who were completely unready musicians except for the keyboard player and rose to stardom overnight. Jim Morrison also has an interesting background, his dad Admiral Morrison was in charge of the fleet that kickstarted Vietnam after the concocted Bay of Tonkin incident.

jimbo
jimbo
Aug 22, 2021 8:12 AM

“Freedom of choice is the essence of all accountability.”

Fredrick Douglass, My Bondage and My Freedom

Today we face the BIOtech PharmaCom Cowhip Pharma Slave needle.

Designed to lacerate our Sacred bodies with the whips of Overseer Pharmacom POISON needles.

More slaves are whipped for oversleeping than for any other fault. Neither age nor sex finds any favor. The overseer stands at the quarter door, armed with stick and cowskin, ready to whip any who may be a few minutes behind time. When the horn is blown, there is a rush for the door, and the hindermost one is sure to get a blow from the overseer. Young mothers who worked in the field, were allowed an hour, about ten o’clock in the morning, to go home to nurse their children. Sometimes they were compelled to take their children with them, and to leave them in the corner of the fences, to prevent loss of time in nursing them. The overseer generally rides about the field on horseback. A cowskin and a hickory stick are his constant companions. The[80] cowskin is a kind of whip seldom seen in the northern states. It is made entirely of untanned, but dried, ox hide, and is about as hard as a piece of well-seasoned live oak. It is made of various sizes, but the usual length is about three feet. The part held in the hand is nearly an inch in thickness; and, from the extreme end of the butt or handle, the cowskin tapers its whole length to a point. This makes it quite elastic and springy. A blow with it, on the hardest back, will gash the flesh, and make the blood start. Cowskins are painted red, blue and green, and are the favorite slave whip. I think this whip worse than the “cat-o’nine-tails.” It condenses the whole strength of the arm to a single point, and comes with a spring that makes the air whistle. It is a terrible instrument, and is so handy, that the overseer can always have it on his person, and ready for use. The temptation to use it is ever strong; and an overseer can, if disposed, always have cause for using it. With him, it is literally a word and a blow, and, in most cases, the blow comes first.

and now comes the PHARMACOM cowskin POISON!!!

Annette
Annette
Aug 22, 2021 7:27 AM

Just returning more calmly to the problems we are facing because of our own inabilities to unite. Unless we can analyse ourselves and manage to unite in a honest, upright, serious movement, I doubt we will go far.
1) as you see the world alliance is bankrupt. Its webpage at some point (havent looked at it recently) said they “held” the science: no one possesses science, so what difference with the official discourse. And they are promoting the virus lie, so in what way are they scientific? Hence the organization pretending to be the umbrella international organization is dishonest.
2) If you go through the link, https://dannyboylimerick.wordpress.com/2021/05/28/professor-dolores-cahill-friend-foe-ally-adversary-or-something-else-entirely/ then you will see its even less upright than what those of us who had suspicions thought.
3) Most in the French resistance, at least here in the Paris region, are playing at resistance. Its like seeing a movie of the 1940s with unprofessional actors. Is it the same elsewhere? No, its different in India in the farmers’ movement. That is a truly a constructive movement. https://t.me/CivilianaireMagazine/408 Possibly also in some other countries there are such movements.

All this to say, we must take note of our failure to unite. Also there is no way we will return to anything we have known as many of you have realised. Basically for me its an impossibility. In logic, an implication means, if A holds, then B (will necessarily hold). You cannot have B not holding, and yet A holding. And here A=what we had all our lives, a society based on the maximization of profit. B=destruction of humankind. That process of profit maximization invariably leads to destruction because it requires constant growth. Constant growth is impossible in a finite world. Hence the move to the virtual world of the internet and a level of destruction in the finite world which now encompasses all human lives (hence also transhumanism: that destruction of humanity allied to the virtual world of the machine).

So either we unite for a long resistance which will necessarily have to include a new vision for the future, or else we may well be reaching the end of humanity. Possibly, depending on our age, some of us may live out our lifespan, but in increasingly inhumane conditions (of which we have had a foretaste since 2020), possibly some of us can save our skins by disappearing into a jungle or remote place (without a constructive plan, this is for our species as a whole a definite failure: without culture, without the rich life humanity needs and has slowly constructed over centuries, living in isolated units, at more or less survival level, well its erasing millennia of our history), but we wont be able to stop the destruction of humanity in the short to mid term. To prevent this happening, we must unite and become truly constructive together. NOW.

DimlyGlimpsed
DimlyGlimpsed
Aug 25, 2021 4:33 AM
Reply to  Annette

 we must unite and become truly constructive together. NOW.

Agreed. Do you have any specific suggestions or resistance groups to recommend?

Dennis Brown
Dennis Brown
Aug 22, 2021 2:39 AM

Dear Friends,

With all the talk these days about “following ‘the’ science”, I took the opportunity to re-read Carl Sagan’s masterful defence of the scientific method, in his book titled The Demon Haunted World.

In one chapter Sagan discusses “The Fine Art of Baloney Detection”. It’s a delightful and accessible read.

In it Sagan reviews the classic Aristotelean concept of the logical fallacy—where a faulty premise , or insufficient evidence, might lead to erroneous conclusions.

This seems highly relevant in the context of today’s emotional debate about Covid-19 in general and Covid vaccines in particular.

( Disclaimer: I have absolutely no desire to influence anyone’s voluntary decision to be vaccinated.My sole concern is in questioning whether it is ethical for the State to use it’s power to force people to be vaccinated without informed consent.)

Some examples of Logical Fallacies:

A.) Formal Logical Fallacy . (Syllogism). (Where two formally true premises implies a third unconfirmed premise):

1. ) Vaccines have protected against, and eliminated,viruses like Smallpox.
2. ) The new NRA messenger technology for SARs COV2 is a “vaccine”.
3. ) Therefore the new NRA messenger technology will protect against, or eliminate SARs COv2.

B.) Probability Fallacy:

1.) So far the new vaccines have been given to billions of people.
2.) So far very few people have died or have had harmful effects.
3.) Therefore in all probability I will be better off being vaccinated.

C. ) Informal Fallacy:

1. ) I’ve been vaccinated with the new mNRA vaccines.
2. ) So far I am fine.
3. ) I trust the Government, therefore I am sure I will be fine in future and I’m happy to take booster shots. But, I insist others do so as well.

D. ) Fallacy of Sufficiency. (Drawing conclusions from limited data):

1. ) Scientists have been experimenting with monoclonal anti-body drugs and NRA messenger technology since the 1980’s.
2. ) The Pharmaceutical Drug manufacturers did some “trials” of the mNRA technology in 2020.
3. ) Therefore we have all the data we need. Let’s vaccinate the world as soon as we can!

E. ) False Dilemma Fallacy. (Presenting two possible choices, excluding any other alternatives):

1. ) SARS COv2 is a “novel” virus, everyone is at risk and there are no prophylactic treatments.
2. ) Our only defence, according to “the” science, is vaccination. Therefore investigation of treatment therapies and re-purposed drugs is a waste of time and energy and should be discouraged.
3. ) If we don’t vaccinate everybody immediately we could have a repeat of the Spanish Flu epidemic or the Bubonic plague.

F. ) Weak Analogy Fallacy :

1. ) Masks are used in clinical settings to prevent surgeons and caregivers from nosocomial spread of bacteria.
2. ) It makes intuitive sense that masks will therefore prevent aerosol transmission of SARs Cov2 in public settings.
3. ) Therefore everyone should be forced to wear a mask to keep everybody safe.

G. ) Red Herring Fallacy. (Derailing an original argument to another irrelevant topic.) :

1. ) Anti-vaxxers are religious zealots who are anti-Science.
2. ) Religious zealots are anti-abortion, anti-blood transfusion etc.
3. ) Are we going to them interfere with our Public Health Policies?

H. ) Fallacy of the Excluded Middle:

1. ) Anti-vaxxers are ignorant, irresponsible retards who are selfishly indifferent to the well being of others.
2. ) You are either with us or against us.
3. ) There is no middle ground. Any one who is hesitant about being vaccinated is an ”anti-vaxxer”.

H. ) Ad hominem Fallacy. (Attacks on a source .)

1. ) The scientists who wrote the Great Barrington Declaration , advocating focused ,targeted protection of the frail and elderly from SARs COV2 gave interviews on news outlets I don’t like.
2. ) Those news outlets are “fake news” and “alt-right”.
3. ) Therefore I’m not going to pay attention to the Great Barrington Declaration scientists, they are ” right-wingers”.

I. ) The Bandwagon Fallacy :

1. ) I don’t want to die.
2. ) I won’t die if I get vaccinated.
3. ) Everyone else is getting vaccinated so I will too.The vaccines must be safe.

J. ) The fallacy of suppressed evidence :

1. ) People who say vaccines are dangerous are spreading “misinformation”. And I’m glad Google is censoring them for violating “community standards”.
2. ) I have not heard anything on T.V. ,or from Public Health officials, that vaccines are dangerous.
3. ) Therefore there is absolutely no evidence vaccines are unsafe.

K. ) The logical fallacy of confusing Causality with Co-relation.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 22, 2021 3:14 AM
Reply to  Dennis Brown

The fallacy of faith…science is funded by honest, good natured super tycoons who mandate avenues of research which influence outcomes which are then communicated to beaurocrats who pass the details on to politicians who use their impartial good buddies in media to convey the ‘down low’ to “the people” who believe it owing to a lifetime indoctrination of full spectrum behaviour modification, newly imposed, heavy monetary fines, a constantly advertised police threat, loss of income, loss of job, of social standing in group think circles and fear of true engagement with the self…

It’s the “because we said so” modern day priesthood, witch doctor, voodoo, trusted tribal shaman fallacy.

You can’t not believe it…because the shadows on the wall are all so believable.

Because we said so that’s why.

Geo Martin
Geo Martin
Aug 22, 2021 2:10 PM
Reply to  Pig Swill

The problem with modern science is it has no fundation for truth, as without a supernatural source i.e God there is no objective truth. We all know that we humans interpret things in different ways, we have biases, preconceptions, interests, emotional attachments, etc. and to assign scientists some sort of insulation from all these human traits is a big mistake. Groups are also human and are also susceptible to all of the conditions discribed above.

So, in short without a supernatural source of truth it is down to what we say, and the ones who have more power have more say than the ones who don’t.
It’s as simple as that, they hold the power therefore they decide what science adn truth is, and that is subject to changes day to day.

2fat2surf
2fat2surf
Aug 22, 2021 4:07 AM
Reply to  Dennis Brown

Thanks. People need to see this.
But you missed one that is being rammed down our throats every day.
It is the appeal to authority fallacy.
Every time I turn on NPR I hear some PHD quack saying anyone who disagrees with him is either misinformed or a liar. And never addresses the counter argument.

Willem
Willem
Aug 22, 2021 7:34 AM
Reply to  2fat2surf

‘ A.) Formal Logical Fallacy . (Syllogism). (Where two formally true premises implies a third unconfirmed premise):

1. ) Vaccines have protected against, and eliminated,viruses like Smallpox.
2. ) The new NRA messenger technology for SARs COV2 is a “vaccine”.
3. ) Therefore the new MNRA messenger technology will protect against, or eliminate SARs COv2.’

Reminds me of Bill Clinton’s formal logical fallacy: ‘ I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky’

(similar to the usual meaning of ‘vaccine’, that suddenly has another definition when you talk about the jabs, Bill used another definition of ‘sex’ when he talked about his relationship with Miss Lewinsky).

Dennis Brown
Dennis Brown
Aug 22, 2021 11:27 PM
Reply to  2fat2surf

Totally Agree!

ImpObs
ImpObs
Aug 22, 2021 8:49 AM
Reply to  Dennis Brown

True, traditional Science, has been usurped and weaponized as propaganda. To do this they reinveted “science” by deonting the new paradigm as “Post-Normal Science”.

https://principia-scientific.com/what-is-post-normal-science/

An example of this would be using relative efficacy instead of absolute efficacy to report on the vaccine trials efficacy.

TLDR: Post Normal Science is propaganda dressed up as Science.

Geo Martin
Geo Martin
Aug 22, 2021 2:01 PM
Reply to  Dennis Brown

Make no mistake that if Carl Sagan was alive today he’d be a keen campaigner for the injections and all things covid. He was a top member of “The Science”, only for a different era when people needed a litlle more than a tacky made for TV pandemic to be mesmerised.

Ort
Ort
Aug 22, 2021 8:06 PM
Reply to  Geo Martin

It’s certainly possible, but since Sagan isn’t alive today speculation about his probable position is in the eye of the beholder.

OTOH, we definitely know the stance of Sagan’s successor to the Ostensible Brilliant Scientist and Media Darling Chair, Neil deGrasse Tyson:

https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/1392459811523112966?lang=en

Geo Martin
Geo Martin
Aug 23, 2021 1:41 PM
Reply to  Ort

Absolutely all mainstream science names are in favour of the covid narrative including the jabbies. So, it’s safe to assume Sagan would have been in the same boat, he was no pariah in the science tribe.
Let’s take former ‘voice of reason’ Noam Chomsky for instance. Where is he at now?
Let’s try to name a few of those main science names who oppose the current narrative openly. I’ll tell you now you won’t find many….

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 21, 2021 11:07 PM

The whole masked war suggests nothing so much as a variation on a theme of Nazi blame-gaming, such as the infamous quote of Goering:

“…Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

Now, instead of shadowy human enemies attacking us, we have shadowy (i.e. unproven, un-verified) viral bugs with spikes that are a threat to go “nuclear” at any moment if we don’t maximize our defenses on all fronts. Reminds me of “1942” by Stephen Spielberg, when all of L.A. was shut down and we went into combat mode here because our coastlines were exposed to Japanese attacks. Which never materialized.

But it was a great organizing principle, especially to vaporize any pacifist responses.

But the whole shtick that we are exposing people to sudden death and explosive contagion, Bubonic 2.0, is so redolent of the same tactics used to get everyone marching in unison pending the blitzkriegs of 1940s.

In many ways, I’m sure it occurs to some, that this gambit is more effective than arming against invaders with legs. They can be seen and (somewhat) proven –absent false flags, that is– but you can manipulate the stats about “viruses” and micro-manage the reporting, in any number of countless ways….

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 22, 2021 12:43 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

The invisible enemy John… with a full on psychological war waged by the media, bought politicians and so called health organisations (funded by?) that has so many people, irrational with fear, and literally in a state of psychosis about a supposed deadly virus and a supposed raging pandemic that they have only seen the supposed evidence for on their TV’s and in their newspapers.
And when people are in this state of mind, who knows what they are capable of doing. And the morally bankrupt media keeps pushing the divide and conquer tactics, like this article trying to blame protesters yesterday for a rise in cases here today, when they are using already reported numbers from yesterday! “Cases” using the fraudulent PCR tests of course.
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/new-covid-cases-recorded-as-regional-victoria-wakes-up-to-lockdown-c-3746783
And regards the psychological aspect of the scamdemic, this short video is pretty spot on how they got everyone conditioned to the new normal rituals…
https://www.bitchute.com/video/pB5uJlpjvuye/

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 22, 2021 2:02 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

The mask thing is beyond the pale. Nobody is responsible for any of this. But everyone has become a criminal at the click of the fingers. Overnight, totally innocent people are now criminals. Now I know historically, human beings act pretty damn insane during black deaths or alleged cataclysmic viruses. But with what we know in this day and age and with the stats of the “virus”, this mask thing just beggars belief. It keeps you on edge, it signals horror and threat around every corner.

And the real kicker is that the creeps behind all this have orchestrated it perfectly so that innocent people are now the threat. They are the hunted, the hated and the potential criminal. When reversals like this are forced on society you know you’re dealing with satanic minds, with pure evil.

And most people have no idea.

grr
grr
Aug 22, 2021 3:48 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

And to illuminate the bogus narrative we only need to look at NSW 2017; 8,500 hospitalisations, 24,000 actual cases, and many deaths.
These are the flu statistics from then. No lockdown, no muppet masks,etc. Why? Because the flu was a medical phenomena, and in no way political.
Sound medical tactics were utilised as they had been done since forever.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 22, 2021 6:24 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

P… Get in enough food to last at least 2 weeks. Reports coming in that the truckies have had enough and they’re taking action. Looks like they will be staging blockades.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 22, 2021 6:54 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Thanks Gez. Where’d you hear this?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 22, 2021 8:02 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

If I’m wrong about this I will publically apologise. I’ve seen several posts on Facebook this arvo, including from a couple of trustworthy sources, that the truckies were going to stage blockades around the country. In the last 10 minutes or so, have seen 2 more posts saying this will supposedly happen on Tuesday August 31st. Possibly for only one day. I may have jumped the gun on this…

Natty
Natty
Aug 22, 2021 11:50 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

We had exactly the same rumours in France about truckers blocking the country, supposed to take place mid August, nothing has happened.

juno
juno
Aug 22, 2021 3:09 PM
Reply to  Natty

I can’t say it’s bad advice though. There’s a slow emptying of shelves where I’m at and a lot of complaints about how there’s a shortage of drivers. I keep wondering if the ‘shortage’ is due to drivers quitting rather than being jabbed. We didn’t even have such a supply problem (other than TP, heh heh) at the height of teh crazy last year. Don’t even get me started on this totally suss ‘coin shortage’ that only seems to affect chain stores like Starbucks who now seem to bend over backwards to not take cash anymore.

YMMV, but fresh garlic and ginger disappeared here last year for awhile. We got garlic back, but ginger is harder to find than it used to be. Both can be preserved. Stock up on the herbs etc you use to make food palatable or make healthy teas from because if the supply lines stop for any reason, you’ll probably miss those things even more than the TP.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Aug 22, 2021 2:48 AM
Reply to  John Ervin

The latest from our prick of a PM:

Lockdowns will be highly unlikely and targeted towards unvaccinated populations when the vaccinated proportion of the community reaches the 70 and 80 per cent targets, Prime Minister Scott Morrison says.

Speaking on the ABC’s Insiders program, the PM said that at 80 per cent coronavirus could be treated like other infectious diseases with basic precautions in place but at 70 per cent there needs to be testing, isolation and quarantine.

“That’s what living with the virus looks like,” Mr Morrison said, adding returning Australians would eventually be able to quarantine at home.

While he acknowledged there were challenges with the vaccine roll out early on, he said there were now more than 300,000 vaccinations a day.

“We have a clear plan to living with the virus. We are making great progress against that plan,” he said.

He said the plans to vaccinate children by the end of the terms before end of the year holiday periods are being worked through at the moment.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/australia-covid-live-updates-nsw-sets-record-for-nation-s-highest-daily-case-total-victorian-statewide-lockdown-begins-as-infections-grow-across-the-country-20210821-p58kqp.html

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 22, 2021 3:21 AM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

It’s all so very sad. Very satanic and evil. Just an avalanche of bullshit that’s so out of control there’s no stopping it. All this nightmarish shit they want, they’ll get it. So, so many horses in this narrative have bolted, never too be questioned again. Just one lie on top of another. One lie to forget the last lie and another lie on top of that, then more lies. Never stopping for propper deliberation. Swift lies, fast lies just snowballing out of control.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 22, 2021 6:26 AM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

Cliff… Get in as much food as possible. Enough for at least 2 weeks. It looks like the truckies have had enough and they’re taking action. It looks like they will be staging blockades.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Aug 22, 2021 10:19 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Just returned from a large local supermarket. No mask, no check-in, no worries. And bought no friggin’ SPC products. Gonna miss their baked beans though.

Regardless of whether or not the truckies do their thing, and I sort of doubt that they will, doesn’t hurt to have the cupboards and freezer chockers anyway.

Cheers

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 22, 2021 10:35 AM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

I may have jumped the gun Cliff… Have since seen updated posts that it will be a nationwide protest of truckies on Tuesday, August 31st. And not in the next few days as some alluded to earlier today. Yep, no compliance and no enabling this evil agenda. If only another 30% or more followed our example!

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Aug 24, 2021 2:32 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Gezzah I can’t help hoping that the low ‘vaccination’ numbers here point to there being a fair-sized minority who don’t really believe the bullshit but are staying pretty quiet about it.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Aug 22, 2021 12:15 PM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

What’s up with SPC?

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Aug 23, 2021 12:55 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

The arseholes have made vaccination mandatory for their employees.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Aug 23, 2021 8:59 AM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

My reply to you for this has been sitting in the spam filter for 21 hours. I’m actually serious. The Truckies are intending to go on strike on Tuesday, August 31st and stage blockades. Mainly over the mandatory jab when they cross state borders, but also coz of Govt actions with the covid measures.

Dr Rogue
Dr Rogue
Aug 21, 2021 10:17 PM

Friends,
The entities pushing the “new normal” display reptilian and insectoid traits, and are likely more intelligent, cunning and devious than you.
I suggest this: do not waste your energy with arguments on “the science”. That hocus pocus is their domain and you will always lose the argument. “Koch’s postulates do not apply to viruses”, etc etc)

We have solid, tangible data in the form of patent applications. THIS IS CONSPIRACY FACT, NOT THEORY.

https://www.brighteon.com/a569c7c9-9572-47ed-ba3c-130b0c13aa55

(R. Fuellmich interviews D. Martin , patent underwriter and expert on biotech patents)
Pfizer et. al. patented tests and vaccines YEARS BEFORE WUHAN.

Richard Rothschild himself filed a patent application for COVID-19 testing at the Dutch patent registry office IN 2015. Why is nobody talking about this?

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Aug 22, 2021 3:55 AM
Reply to  Dr Rogue

Brighteon.com Excellent thank you.

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Aug 22, 2021 4:08 AM
Reply to  Dr Rogue

Everyone should watch that Brighteon video.

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Aug 22, 2021 4:46 AM
Reply to  Dr Rogue
Carnyx
Carnyx
Aug 21, 2021 7:50 PM

Leaked Document From Public Health England
Selling the Vaccine

Very interesting video from Tim at fairplaynow.net

https://fairplaynow.net/must

https://rumble.com/vlhjq5-leaked-doucument-from-public-health-england.html

Dr Rogue
Dr Rogue
Aug 21, 2021 10:29 PM
Reply to  Carnyx

The video is low resolution and we cannot read the doc ourselves.

Carnyx
Carnyx
Aug 22, 2021 11:08 AM
Reply to  Dr Rogue

Yeah it’s not that good

I’ve got a copy of the doc and TBH I’m finding the video to maybe be a little misleading.

for example when the commentator (voice-over) starts mentioning the WEF assholes the document is actually referring to herd immunity. this seems to be basis and purpose of the document.

Not saying there isn’t an element of coercion about it I mean in a similar vain take a look at the link below.

  • https://www.local.gov.uk/publications/applying-behavioural-insights-improve-covid-vaccination-uptake-guide-councils
  • Karry
    Karry
    Aug 21, 2021 6:00 PM

    Massive, massive protests in France today, in more than 250 different towns and cities. People from every walk of life out on the streets. Official figures are saying 200,000, but there were around 100,000 in Bordeaux alone (who were fired upon with teargas grenades, about an hour ago, along with Toulouse).

    One of the corteges in Paris put the police into disarray and surrounded that monstrous glass pyramid at the Louvre. I don’t know what’s happening now.

    If you have the tweety blue birdie, you can see what’s happening at #manifestation21aout

    If you don’t have it and you have (like me) had your wings clipped for not signing up, you can do a search for people like, < Anonyme Citoyen > or < Marcel >, then you are allowed in – but not to read any of the comments or click on any of the links.

    I’ve also seen lots of videos (on that, above mentioned, hash-tag) showing the true extent of the protests in Australia. As in France, they are much bigger than they’d like us to know. Same with Italy.

    I want to think that the wheels are falling off this charabanc – but, even if they aren’t, there are far, far more of us than they’d like us to believe.

    2fat2surf
    2fat2surf
    Aug 21, 2021 6:17 PM
    Reply to  Karry

    Great to hear about freedom loving people standing up against the fear-mongering tyrants.

    October
    October
    Aug 21, 2021 7:26 PM
    Reply to  Karry

    For those who are unfamiliar with France, this is still the month of August, when literally nothing happens in the country.

    Karry, my past statement about home schooling was not quite right, and the move to tighten the rules has succeeded. However, it should still be possible in the coming school year.

    Karry
    Karry
    Aug 21, 2021 8:17 PM
    Reply to  October

    I didn’t read your past statement about home schooling, October.

    I have been under the impression that it has been outlawed…although, what happens to the likes of the, Cambridge International Schools?

    October
    October
    Aug 21, 2021 8:27 PM
    Reply to  Karry

    It is not (yet) entirely outlawed, but has been made more difficult (and that was recently approved by the infamous conseil constitutionnel).

    If I’m not mistaken, nothing has changed for institutionalised teaching.

    John Ervin
    John Ervin
    Aug 21, 2021 10:57 PM
    Reply to  October

    Le Mi-Creux D’Aout! I remember my years in Paris, and the middle of August was always deader than a Thanksgiving turkey, a door-nail, just stone dead. Amazingly quiet and empty. Everyone is on vacation near the shores, if possible.

    John
    John
    Aug 21, 2021 10:27 PM
    Reply to  Karry

    Vive La France!!!

    Maiasta
    Maiasta
    Aug 22, 2021 3:04 AM
    Reply to  Karry

    Some 217 demonstrations across the country the previous weekend. So it looks like it can only continue to grow. Lots & lots of vaxxed individuals joining these marches too.

    France’s answer to the medical dictatorship

    Geo Martin
    Geo Martin
    Aug 22, 2021 3:14 PM
    Reply to  Karry

    Maybe what protesters could do for the next march is to announce a march against climate change, pro abortion, pro LGBT or BLM (take your pick of corporate sponsored cause); so the police won’t be anywhere near and the media will send all their minions to report the success and high attendance of the event.
    Once in place, drop the rainbow scarf and hoist the anti injections/lockdowns placards.

    Grafter
    Grafter
    Aug 21, 2021 5:39 PM
    John
    John
    Aug 22, 2021 2:46 AM
    Reply to  Grafter

    Thank you! Those French riot cops look like they just hopped off a space ship.

    Ort
    Ort
    Aug 22, 2021 7:53 PM
    Reply to  John

    Imperial Stormtroopers from the Death Star, perhaps?

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    Annette
    Annette
    Aug 21, 2021 5:17 PM

    This may be off topic. But I wanted to let you know please be careful if you are joining any movements or even forming local groups. You must be able to trust those around you.
    https://dannyboylimerick.wordpress.com/2021/05/28/professor-dolores-cahill-friend-foe-ally-adversary-or-something-else-entirely/
    This is something some of us had suspected long ago. That there is some sort of infiltration, everywhere, at every level. Its also the case here in France.

    2fat2surf
    2fat2surf
    Aug 21, 2021 6:24 PM
    Reply to  Annette

    This is to be expected. Anyone who is a potential leader will be attacked. That is why a mass movement is necessary.

    John Ervin
    John Ervin
    Aug 21, 2021 11:13 PM
    Reply to  2fat2surf

    Like BLM LOL! Expect any mass movement to be 95% suspect, they can cook up mass movements at Langley like lasagna.

    2fat2surf
    2fat2surf
    Aug 21, 2021 11:46 PM
    Reply to  John Ervin

    I keep forgetting resistance is useless.

    Annette
    Annette
    Aug 21, 2021 6:49 PM
    Reply to  Annette

    If you listen to and read the above link, it gives you the desire to vomit. Already the international movements against all this are now guess what associated to private bank accounts in Panama (they might not have opened them in the end, dont know, but just that they even discussed it) to restore someone’s private castle, to the use of private jets, and they cdr themselves as the new United Nations????

    I did think they were controlled opposition and that there was financial foul play, but to this extent, its more than ugly. So as you see the movements are bankrupt at the very start of the war: why? Because little egos have taken the lead and are into self-promotion. There is no charismatic intelligent leader as in prior times. Because of this, some of the very honest and intelligent people are refusing to join the movements though they have some of the best analysis of whats going on.

    I think there is a fundamental pb, and we wont get anywhere unless we do take the full measure of what is going on.

    And I can tell you that you shouldnt count on the French resistance: its mainly a whole lot of naive people who are playing at resistance. Its not just my reading, its that of anyone I respect. We have discussed this. At the first turn when things get worse, when actually people begin to be harassed by the authorities, and possibly arrested, they’ll all disappear. In fact the local leader told me so: he had no intention of suffering for the sake of any humanity, he didnt care whether it was saved or not, he only cared about saving his skin. Im not joking, he told me that in writing so I have proof.

    And with all their talk about positive vibrations and goodness knows what, sincerely they’re becoming like a sect. Never heard such BS, excuse my language, first time I swear in my life, until these last weeks. I told them so. Under the law concerning sects, anyone belonging to such groups can be arrested and questioned for hours. Its all very well having accepted to do an anthropological study of these people from the inside for some academics connected to Oxford and other places, but I have sufficient material for such a study. So Im leaving.

    There is little global vision, there is little understanding of what it takes to make a movement strong and powerful. Just some little egos, and the rest, kids playing at resistance, sending each other little messages, with little symbols (you know those smiling faces, and so on you find on internet). And the language, you’d think they’re from kindergarten. Great we’ll go a long way with that.

    Karry
    Karry
    Aug 21, 2021 8:48 PM
    Reply to  Annette

    Uh oh!

    Resistance (is futile)…sects…Oxford…global vision…egotists.

    All in one comment!!

    He/she/it, randomly, played a race card about two weeks ago, when challenged on facts.

    If anyone here, still believes that, ‘Anette’, is an honest-to-goodness human being…then, I’ve got a magnificent bridge for sale. It’s at the bottom of my garden.

    2fat2surf
    2fat2surf
    Aug 21, 2021 9:54 PM
    Reply to  Karry

    You nailed it my friend!

    John
    John
    Aug 21, 2021 10:33 PM
    Reply to  Karry

    She might be Borg Watch out out

    John Ervin
    John Ervin
    Aug 21, 2021 11:19 PM
    Reply to  Karry

    “Resistance is futile, Earthlings! That was the cry from the alien mother ships in 1950s Sci-Fi B movies, and really we have, whatever, wherever, the provenance some serious “alien” technologies that cover almost ‘all the bases’. Only the goodness and mercy of God can protect us.

    That is my constant reminder, these months, years. For those who are allergic to such concept, maybe it’s time to accommodate some such theology more broadly, more invitingly. I’m certain God will welcome it, since it all belongs to Heaven.

    For those who stumble with the ancient nomenclature, W. H. Auden suggested in his “Christmas Oratorio” the phrase, “…the Voice of Conscience, which is God…”

    Same difference.

    Howard
    Howard
    Aug 21, 2021 11:58 PM
    Reply to  Karry

    Annette has said farewell to this forum at least twice already. Maybe it’s a tag team (like in wrestling).

    Annette
    Annette
    Aug 22, 2021 9:23 AM
    Reply to  Karry

    Yes I work for MI5 how did you guess?! Im actually an AI machine! Sorry I had thought people here were more intelligent than what Im seeing in France.
    Its really sad.. Truly sad. Leave you to it all! Ill tell those scientists who are truly trying to bring out the truth what you think of me, might make them laugh or tell me to stop communicating with all and sundry as they have. But you see Karry, unlike them, who keep a vertical relation with you all, I had truly thought that it is worth going beyond science, and try to discuss on rebuilding on an equal basis with all.
    You dont know how much the very people “on our side” are being disappointing at least here in Europe. Its different in some other places, where discussion levels are of a far higher serious level. So possibly there is still hope, but that hope is coming from beyond Europe.

    John
    John
    Aug 21, 2021 10:33 PM
    Reply to  Annette

    Your comment is very defeatist, underestimates the power of the human spirit and you missing the point. Achieving the goal is irrelevant! What is relevant is the doing. Your actions. Fighting for a just cause whether you live or die. Life here is but one step on a road to eternity.

    The Coming Revolution
    The Coming Revolution
    Aug 21, 2021 11:45 PM
    Reply to  Annette

    Annette, we will go the first stretch of the way with that. Things get ripe in due time, and kids don’t become adults overnight; some rough years have to go by first. If you wanted to go from A to Z, you will have to go through all the letters in-between. Perhaps it will take adults messaging each other like children; or arresting, jailing, or even torturing the recalcitrant ones; perhaps it will take the prospect of starvation by those who are now denied access to large supermarkets as it is happening in some places; perhaps it will take the bankruptcy of a substantial number of restaurants; perhaps it will take the tearing of familial bonds, people going homeless, lose everything, even deaths; who knows what it takes to effect a radical change? Leaders have little to do with the march of history; and a movement of protest doesn’t reduce to “leaders” unless one has a vanguard outlook on things.

    Perhaps you’re right; perhaps the streets of Paris will be deserted at the first “coup de force” from the thugs we refer to as “police”; if so, then so be it, and it would have taken that much, but it wouldn’t, ever, be as if nothing has happened prior to that. Past events have left, and current ones are leaving, an indelible imprint on everyone of us and no one can wipe that off us, and that imprint will prepare the next step. No one can stop the march of history and whatever happens in what remains of 2021, the year 2022 will be another step in the march of history, not a stagnation.

    Who has ever heard of “terrasse sauvage” before? How did it come into existence, if not by the necessary determination of prior events? What did it take for some protests to now evolve into sittings rather just standing? What had to happen before posters started asking everyone to add locations of other protests if they can’t find theirs in the list? Can anyone wipe off that sense of closeness and complicity one used to witness in the past? What did it take me to write these words? What did it take you? What did it take everyone to have the opinions they have today?

    And what events had to occur before the string pullers and their minions the politicians couldn’t help it any longer and had to come out openly for everyone to see on which side they stand? That’s why I don’t think it’s about money: who in his right mind – and don’t call them psychopaths, they are not; they are perfectly lucid criminals – would sacrifice a political or business position, one’s life, by taking such unpopular, inhumane steps against their citizens and appearing in broad daylight as public enemy n°1, risking to be lynched or assassinated, for money??? I don’t think so. What is happening had to happen and every sacrifice is not too high, in *their* mind, to make it happen. The holders of economic power (forget politicians) and the many have avoided each other for too long and it has been decided it was time to settle the dispute once and for all.

    But there is wisdom in nature, in the universe, and no one can do anything about that wisdom. If things are frightening today, it is because we are not yet prepared to face them, but when the necessary events had occurred, and they have to occur, we start losing that fear as we come to grips, little by little, with those same things and a step would have just been made without even us noticing.

    Think, everyone, what a long way we have come in 18 months. It took all that to prepare for this today. Do you think it shall take less than that to prepare for our deliverance?

    Annette
    Annette
    Aug 22, 2021 10:41 AM

    I appreciate what you wrote. Possibly if you read my next piece in the Light (their Sep. issue, Ill leave you to guess which one it is, I always sign my real writings under my own name), you will understand what I mean, and if you read a short story that will appear in a Canadian magazine in their Sep. issue if I can finish it by the 25th, but doubt it, so in their Oct. one, then you will possibly understand my vision. As for my study: Someone in my position is rare, totally involved with the base or grassroot of the French resistance, yet also looking at it from a distance, that of an academic and a scientist as well as non-European. Im sure Im not the best to be in such a privileged situation, seeing history being made from the inside, yet also from an observer’s perspective. Its like going in and out of a theatre play. And they know I am writing about them. Do you think Id be so dishonest as not to tell them? They’ve all come in small groups to my place for meals, and we have talked deeply about what motivates them, their lives, their childhoods, their past, what they hope for, all these ordinary, yet extraordinary, men and women. They know and approve of my writing, in fact appear to they appreciate it, as they have read some of it, and as long as I dont give sensitive information, its perfectly all right for them, and they well appreciate my motivation and those of some colleagues who are the ones who actually made me realise I had to keep the role of outsider. Otherwise I would have left France for calmer horizons or safer ones anyhow. They convinced me that someone who has no prejudice, no dogma, and is able to analyse, has the background to do it, had to keep a report for posterity. It is extremely rare that such an outsider sees history being made from the inside, from the heart of it, interacting no longer from the height of a pulpit, but totally as one of them, one whom they have fully accepted on a par. I am very sorry that there is no one better able than me in this position. In all other countries I now have connection with, I remain part of committees of movements, committees of this and that, and evidently my relation is no longer horizontal with the people. Im sorry that I am no Tolstoy, I am no Fromm, and I know if I can make nothing of this experience then I will have only myself to blame for it.
    But precisely because of both my roles, an insider and an outsider, I am also seeing the tragedy of our suffering humanity, not just seeing, but feeling it in my guts, every instant, of every day.

    For it could be all fritter away easily, and frankly Im very worried when I see some of the negative aspects. Too many are too naive. And they are only motivated by the Pass, and I hope they prove me wrong, but have neither strength nor the desire to go further. But the abolition of the Pass wont change the course of current events, anyhow I doubt it now.
    And indeed it is to some extent, to a large extent, very much sect like on the ground, and Im not the only one worried. The best among them are worried. The direction of the resistance took one of my suggestions to try and prevent this. Also the directions in some other countries. So we’re to have a brainstorming session to see if we can implement this idea, in what form. Its not my idea, I would never had had such great ideas: Im simply reading Gandhi. Given none of us have an iota of Gandhi’s pragmatic intelligence, we can to begin with get inspiration from him. If there was no one on the ground: who would have known it could become like a sect? Who would know of the weaknesses of the movement? You cant know them from the outside. And if you dont take full measure of those weaknesses, how will you palliate them?

    Its different for you all: you’re seeing it from the sidelines, from far away. Im spending all my days with them. This later morning I had to myself, and took it to write here, instead of putting together other projects regarding current events with some others (needed a break), or continuing with my own writings.

    Sleep? I hadly have time to sleep. Some nights none. Because of the constant communications I get from round the world, of peoples here and there, who want to discuss, who just want to talk. And I know what Id feel like if I was in that situation and the person did not respond.

    Why do all this? Possibly because its a duty, the duty of each of us. Possibly because its a privilege to be in contact with Humanity to this extent and it is doing me an enormous amount of good.

    By the way, although there is dissension on this, those even in the grassroot more aware of history, more aware of the greater picture, realise that protests by themselves will not change anything. That is not at all what I was referring to. Because evidently protests are only the tip of the iceberg of what the resistance is trying to do. But to be able to do that, its weakness have to be looked at without blinking, and people’s qualities estimated without sentimentality, dispassionately. Its not just a question of remaining utopian, not now, its too serious and there is too much at stake.

    Veri Tas
    Veri Tas
    Aug 22, 2021 12:17 AM
    Reply to  Annette

    The real Annette isn’t as articulate as this one…. Be careful about believing this Annette.

    Annette
    Annette
    Aug 22, 2021 9:34 AM
    Reply to  Veri Tas

    If you knew who I really am… Anyhow better you dont. I had hesitated long whether I should truly make it known. Glad I have not given you either my website, nor access to my published writings. At least the few who know are reading and Im glad appreciating, and in return Im glad they are providing their own very appreciable ideas. Glad Ive met them, even here in France, the very few that really make it worth sacrificing our lives for.
    All Ill say is my next piece will appear in the Light, one of the places where some of my writings have already appeared. But then I write so badly, possibly you could also go and tell my editor Routledge, tell them to stop publishing my books. Im sorry but I already have a contract with them for my next one. I have carte blanche on the topic and content.
    Would you like their contact details so they cancel the contract?
    Im sure they would like to know your opinions that they publish rubbish.

    Annette
    Annette
    Aug 22, 2021 9:51 AM
    Reply to  Veri Tas

    I suggest you all write a collective letter to my publishers, Routledge and Springer, that you also write to the Light, so they stop publishing inarticulate rubbish. Also possibly you could write to the various groups round the world, as well to some of the honest scientists and philosophers, who appear to have wrongly thought it was worth discussing with me: I can provide you their details, should I give you a list? At least they should know they’re wasting their time and effort.

    Yes they had all told me, including my readers, to stop communicating with all and sundry, that there is no point. Or that I should be prepared to be incessantly insulted and attacked. Yes, except that for me I give credit to each one of you, I give you credit, and until my last breadth I will dedicate my life to bringing back humanity, even if Humanity insults me for it, or even kills me for having tried.

    Dr Rogue
    Dr Rogue
    Aug 21, 2021 7:00 PM
    Reply to  Annette

    More blinkered christians equating the indigenous spirituality of Europe, aka “paganism” with “satanism” which is the inevitable flip side of Judeochristianity…. disposable garbage.

    2fat2surf
    2fat2surf
    Aug 21, 2021 9:58 PM
    Reply to  Dr Rogue

    I’ll take paganism over Judeo-Christianity any day.
    The notion that the meek will inherit the earth is,to say the least, wishful thinking.

    Dr Rogue
    Dr Rogue
    Aug 21, 2021 10:45 PM
    Reply to  2fat2surf

    After they have turned the other cheek, of course.

    2fat2surf
    2fat2surf
    Aug 22, 2021 4:21 AM
    Reply to  Dr Rogue

    You can’t be meek without turning the other cheek. Or, If you don’t turn the cheek you’re not meek. Or something like that.

    Geo Martin
    Geo Martin
    Aug 24, 2021 1:44 PM
    Reply to  2fat2surf

    Which is it then, the atheists decrying against the cruel God of the bible or the so called neo pagans complaining how soft the christian message is?
    Well, it shows many commonards say things only to impress the ‘cool cats’. Before making snarky comments about something it might be useful to get a clue of what it’s about.

    Howard
    Howard
    Aug 21, 2021 11:54 PM
    Reply to  2fat2surf

    It’s probably said ironically: the fighters will all kill each other off, and only the meek will be left.

    John
    John
    Aug 21, 2021 10:35 PM
    Reply to  Dr Rogue

    Chaldean fairy tales that have done nothing but supress the true divine spiritual nature of man for 2000 years.

    Geo Martin
    Geo Martin
    Aug 24, 2021 1:36 PM
    Reply to  Dr Rogue

    Your wishes will be granted as we enter a post Christian system. A neo pagan system where human sacrifice is back, we’ve had it for a while in the form of abortion as a child sacrifice to the god Mammon.

    Most likely you’ve lived a very comfortable life in a system based on Christian principles of putting the sacretness of human life at the top of the list. Now that is being swept from under your feet. From now on slowly but steadily life is not going to be so comfortable as priorities change and the rights of a regular human (not a member of the self appointed elite, like in pagan and godless systems) are surpassed by those and animals and ‘mother nature’.

    Remember, you are hurting mother earth, not the chosen elites, you are a burden to the planet, the animals, the climate, the god of the pagans. So, get ready, maybe depending on how old you are you will not see this completely in place, but your children and grandchildren will certainly do.
    Cheers and happy ‘earth day’.

    John Ervin
    John Ervin
    Aug 21, 2021 11:11 PM
    Reply to  Annette

    Infiltration has been super-saturating in the USA Inc for 70 years, at least. “SOME infiltration?” They have so many ways to uber-surveill everyone and everything, through technology. It’s been around quite awhile, but it explains why so many movements go bust. Their membership is usually about 95% phony.

    Well, not to post a discouraging word, but it always helps to assume the worst until you feel very comfortable in disproving it. Field agents are everywhere. Now, though, we have a new and unique global situation, where the common cause is humanity itself.

    George Mc
    George Mc
    Aug 21, 2021 4:48 PM

    Another of my erstwhile heroes, Michael Rosen, is outraged and feels compelled to launch a letter to the Graud complaining about the Tories’ … (deep breath and pop a couple of opioids to counteract effects of suicidal boredom) … “murderous herd immunity approach” which “might hamper trade”. Hang on now – I’ll need to pop a couple of amphetamines to whip up the rage: “Fucking Tory bastards!” But it gets worse! Boris had the fucking audacity to suggest it was OK to shake hands with patients who had covid (thus causing corpse battalions to sky rocket beyond the furthest reaches of the stratosphere!) These capitalist mothers ignored the absolutory indisputable scientific science given by scientifical scientifiction! We all know the fallout: the greatest devastation perpetrated on this country since Stalin dropped that atom bomb on Scarborough back in ’89! Or was that a dream I had? Oh what the fuck! As long as we get the right on fabby Lefto pandemic wankathon in gear, eh? Rosen you wild BLM MeToo raddy guy! 

    Lost in a dark wood
    Lost in a dark wood
    Aug 21, 2021 4:30 PM

    To coincide with the booster programme, they’re about to roll out this dual-purposed, biodegradable hospital bed.
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/YkNIkgT4TswB

    2fat2surf
    2fat2surf
    Aug 21, 2021 3:56 PM

    One interesting thing about the covid fraud is how it will divide family’s. And this could be a problem for the fear mongers. What’s a mother to do when her own son or daughter call BS on this fraud? Disown them? Maybe.

    richard
    richard
    Aug 21, 2021 2:43 PM

    Can you spare 8mins?
    Max Igan at the Brisbane Freedom Rally…
    You won’t regret it.
    Max Igan Brisbane Freedom Rally – August 21st 2021 (brandnewtube.com)

    JohnEss
    JohnEss
    Aug 21, 2021 3:13 PM
    Reply to  richard

    Endorsement in spades, mate.

    VERY WELL WORTH 8 MINUTES!

    A brilliant, rallying speech…

    Dr Rogue
    Dr Rogue
    Aug 21, 2021 7:03 PM
    Reply to  richard

    thanks

    toranon
    toranon
    Aug 21, 2021 1:51 PM

    These are the latest adverse events from Australia. 448 dead…higher than covid for the period since the vaxxine rollout was started. . It’s easy to get to this page with a tabulated layout but you can get the gist from this..
    https://apps.tga.gov.au/PROD/DAEN/daen-report.aspx
    Database of Adverse Event Notifications – medicines

    Search resultsThe results are shown in two tabs.

    Number of reports (cases): 46463
    Number of cases with a single suspected medicine: 45802
    Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 448
    More information on the search results
    Medicine summary List of reports
    Medicine summaryThe medicine summary groups reported adverse events together. Patients may have reported multiple adverse events.
    Further information about the medicine summary
    Information on printing search results

    Sort by: MedDRA system organ class A-Z 
    MedDRA reaction term A-Z 
    Number of cases – highest first 
    Number of cases – lowest first 
    Number of cases with a single suspected medicine – highest first 
    Number of cases with a single suspected medicine – lowest first 
    Number of cases where death was a reported outcome – highest first 
    Number of cases where death was a reported outcome – lowest first 
    MedDRA system organ class
    MedDRA reaction termClick on a term below to search the MedlinePlus medical dictionary.
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    Number of cases with a single suspected medicine
    Number of cases where death was a reported outcome
    Nervous system disorders
    Headache
    16344
    16170
    15
    Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders
    Myalgia
    11077
    10994
    4
    General disorders and administration site conditions
    Pyrexia
    9468
    9373
    10
    General disorders and administration site conditions
    Injection site reaction
    7084
    7027
    3
    Gastrointestinal disorders
    Nausea
    6879
    6817
    8
    General disorders and administration site conditions
    Chills
    6796
    6753
    2
    Nervous system disorders
    Lethargy
    6672
    6639
    9
    General disorders and administration site conditions
    Fatigue
    6592
    6505
    12
    Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders
    Arthralgia
    6424
    6361
    4
    Nervous system disorders
    Dizziness
    4638
    4589
    3
    Gastrointestinal disorders
    Vomiting
    2383
    2361
    27
    Gastrointestinal disorders
    Diarrhoea
    2280
    2260
    5
    Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders
    Rash
    2189
    2169
    5
    Gastrointestinal disorders
    Abdominal pain
    2121
    2110
    7
    Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders
    Dyspnoea
    2070
    2033
    40
    General disorders and administration site conditions
    Injection site pain
    2058
    2033
    1
    Nervous system disorders
    Paraesthesia
    1997
    1963
    3
    General disorders and administration site conditions
    Malaise
    1747
    1724
    24
    General disorders and administration site conditions
    Influenza like illness
    1702
    1680
    6
    Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders
    Pain in extremity
    1546
    1513
    6
    General disorders and administration site conditions
    Chest pain
    1432
    1410
    12
    Blood and lymphatic system disorders
    Lymphadenopathy
    1383
    1365
    0
    Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders
    Cough
    1141
    1126
    5
    Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders
    Hyperhidrosis
    1029
    1014
    1
    General disorders and administration site conditions
    Pain
    962
    945
    3
    Metabolism and nutrition disorders
    Decreased appetite
    941
    931
    11
    Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders
    Oropharyngeal pain
    923
    914
    0
    Nervous system disorders
    Syncope
    904
    891
    5
    Nervous system disorders
    Presyncope
    846
    834
    1
    General disorders and administration site conditions
    Chest discomfort
    797
    779
    0
    Cardiac disorders
    Palpitations
    780
    770
    2
    Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders
    Pruritus
    777
    769
    1
    Cardiac disorders
    Tachycardia
    759
    747
    2
    Vascular disorders
    Deep vein thrombosis
    724
    696
    13
    Psychiatric disorders
    Insomnia
    683
    670
    1
    Vascular disorders
    Hypertension
    676
    670
    2
    Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders
    Urticaria
    672
    667
    0
    Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders
    Pulmonary embolism
    644
    628
    33
    Eye disorders
    Vision blurred
    600
    585
    2
    Investigations
    Fibrin D dimer increased
    599
    579
    14
    Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders
    Back pain
    589
    575
    2
    Nervous system disorders
    Tremor
    570
    562
    0
    Nervous system disorders
    Migraine
    537
    520
    0
    Nervous system disorders
    Hypoaesthesia
    533
    526
    0
    General disorders and administration site conditions
    Asthenia
    484
    478
    4
    Gastrointestinal disorders
    Paraesthesia oral
    482
    476
    0
    Ear and labyrinth disorders
    Vertigo
    456
    450
    1
    Infections and infestations
    Herpes zoster
    453
    445
    1
    Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders
    Rhinorrhoea
    440
    437
    0
    Vascular disorders
    Flushing
    411
    408
    0
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    theobalt
    theobalt
    Aug 21, 2021 5:54 PM
    Reply to  toranon

    What is the name of the medicine you submitted for the search?

    Cliff Edwards
    Cliff Edwards
    Aug 22, 2021 10:29 AM
    Reply to  toranon

    Of course covid true believers would be extremely likely to pooh-pooh all this while at the same time being perfectly willing to take seriously all those lists of supposed ‘Long Covid’ symptoms.

    AlexVZ
    AlexVZ
    Aug 21, 2021 1:22 PM

    If this had all happened in the mid-eighties: https://youtu.be/2oPEnISgg3c

    fran
    fran
    Aug 21, 2021 1:12 PM

    I really enjoyed this presentation , WWE is really like the English pantomime , exaggerated good and bad characters , an audience baying for involvement ; “Hes behind you they shout “. I totally agree with the staging of the current situation we find ourselves in , however in some ways ‘was ‘nt it always like this’? Since the 2nd World War I believe history shows that mass control of society has been the goal , and when the war finished consumerism has been the next great control through the promotion of lifestyle. I think there is a danger that in our opposition that we are not being played to the interchangable roles of heroes and villians , just like the WWE characters who can be crowd pleasing or fiendish. In exposing these truths we have to think about stepping into the future with a different directive , this may be so difficult when in truth the world is ruled by money and greed . I guess though on this journey of truth we can hope to free ourselves from the confines of the ‘stage ‘ and maintain personal congruity and freedom , To live well and accept death well seems to me to be the only simple formula. Somehow there has to be a better way to live life

    Edwige
    Edwige
    Aug 21, 2021 11:48 AM

    Florence Nightingale gets hospitals named after her. was the first ‘woke’ heroine and appears on banknotes. What did she believe about disease though?

    “Is it not living in a continual mistake to look upon diseases, as we do now, as separate entities, which must exist, like cats and dogs, instead of looking upon them as conditions, like a dirty and clean condition, and just as much under our own control; or rather, as the reactions of kindly Nature against the conditions in which we have placed ourselves? I was brought up by scientific men and ignorant women distinctly to believe that smallpox was a thing of which there was once a specimen in the world, which went on propagating itself in a perpetual chain of descent… Since then I have seen with my own eyes and smelt with my nose smallpox growing up in first specimens, either in close rooms or in overcrowded wards, where it could not possibly have been ‘caught’, but must have begun. Nay, more, I have seen diseases begin, grow up and pass into one another. Now dogs do not pass into cats. I have seen, for instance, with a little overcrowding, continued fever grow up, and with a little more, typhoid fever, and with a little more, typhus, and all in the same ward or hut. For diseases, as all experiece shows, are adjectives not noun substantives”.

    Or more succinctly:
    “The specific disease doctrine is the grand refuge of weak, uncultured, unstable minds, such as now rule in the medical profession. There are no specific diseases; there are specific disease-conditions”.

    Sorry, Flo, you may be a national icon but you are clearly in breach of community guidelines and your account has been terminated. Your track record of utterances will now be trawled to find anything that can be used against you to paint you as a racist and preferably anti-semitic and if nothing can be found they can probably make shit up and plant it in your record. You will then become an ‘unperson’ except when you might occasionally be wheeled out as an example of white privilege.

    mgeo
    mgeo
    Aug 21, 2021 12:18 PM
    Reply to  Edwige

    weak, uncultured, unstable minds, such as now rule in the medical profession

    You are ascribing the mania of domination and greed down to ignorance.

    gorden
    gorden
    Aug 21, 2021 1:14 PM
    Reply to  mgeo

    ignorance maketh the man
    rich

    a germ theory lies deceit deception

    20 trillion dollar indusry
    farma cull

    2fat2surf
    2fat2surf
    Aug 21, 2021 3:10 PM
    Reply to  Edwige

    Wow. That’s interesting. She was a real thinker.

    Moneycircus
    Moneycircus
    Aug 21, 2021 11:45 AM

    They promise equity and justice.

    True justice, being moral and ethical, comes from within, from our own desire to pay equal attention to nutritional, housing and health needs.

    Equity is authoritarian, imposed from above. Such redistribution must be made by a person in power who effects a decision and allocates resources. That is social engineering and it is hierarchical. It cannot be otherwise. 

    Granular
    Event Covid is not about the details of a fraudulent pandemic; nor even essentially about the genetic experiment on the population under false pretenses and in clear defiance of the Nuremberg Code. 

    It is essentially a psychological operation in which the state is stampeding the people to accept the seizure and reassignment of property, the ruination of society and culture, the revocation of rights, up to and including physical annihilation — and all without our say-so.

    There is sufficient evidence of orchestrated, psychological abuse by governments to meet the definition of torture. There is enough evidence that legislatures have been bypassed to constitute tyranny. You don’t need a führer in a pencil moustache to make a dictatorship.

    Yet the vaunted human rights watchdogs and world courts sit, silent, on their hands. The usual suspects are only following orders, once again: psychologists, health workers, doctors, teachers, journalists, police and the military, perfunctory politicians, all dancing to the tune of criminal corporate combines.

    The objectives are not similar — they’re near identical: the urgency to inject the children, the victims with learning difficulties of Do Not Resuscitate orders, the euthanasia, the experimental therapies, wall-to-wall propaganda and censorship.

    Master
    Thus we left the world of non-negotiable, absolute, universal human rights and arrived on a planet of engineered and hierarchically-determined values which are relative, and exist only on a slide rule. They begin with the best of intentions and end with a formula of abstract values: who earns their space, who contributes, who is worth feeding, who needs improving, who is worth saving. 

    If someone is at the bottom of the pile, who is at the top? If we are engaging in social engineering with teams of government psychologists to goad the people into making certain choices, through Nudge Units and Behavioral Insight Teams, then clearly an overarching, superior mind is making those decisions.

    Who are the Lebensborn and who are the Aryans this time around — we have a few who may consider themselves to be master but how do we identify?

    Retrospect
    This berserk, unfettered psychopathy and greed of banker oligarchs and their corporations led the world off a cliff in the 1930s and again in the 2020s. Twice the same people gave us a holocaust.

    You can say the plague was unavoidable. You can say it wasn’t the vaccine side effects. But the real starvation happened when they pulled the levers on the world economy and made the machine stop.

    There were no innocents; even those who were ignorant of the plan, who were too stupid to leave themselves an escape route and pursued the demented strategy to its bitter end.

    Every religion has its sublimation. For these demons, the apex of the ceremony was transcendent slaughter. They followed their creed, to empty the Earth in the name of liberating it.

    In full at: https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/evil-has-its-day

    Tim Drayton
    Tim Drayton
    Aug 21, 2021 5:47 PM
    Reply to  Peter Abraham

    Good to see in Australia where the oppression has been so brutal.

    Maiasta
    Maiasta
    Aug 22, 2021 4:33 AM
    Reply to  Tim Drayton
    Bruce Tonka
    Bruce Tonka
    Aug 22, 2021 6:36 AM
    Reply to  Maiasta

    Well now it’s clear.

    Maiasta
    Maiasta
    Aug 22, 2021 9:17 AM
    Reply to  Bruce Tonka

    Yes, it is. Has been for some time.
    Here is what the walking excrement (called police spokesman) said to the press:

    “…the majority of those who attended came with violence in mind…”

    I noticed some Oz news channels quickly edit-out this statement from their coverage. But it stands here:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/21/world/australia/melbourne-protests-covid-restrictions.html

    Of course, there’s nothing ‘violent’ about total lockdown and mandatory vaccination. Nothing violent about mass herding kids into stadiums without their parents, so they can be jabbed.

    How the f*ck this can be happening is beyond me.

    Ort
    Ort
    Aug 22, 2021 7:49 PM
    Reply to  Maiasta

    “…the majority of those who attended came with violence in mind…
    ______________________________________________

    Perhaps by “those who attended”, the spokesman was referring to the police.

    Maiasta
    Maiasta
    Aug 23, 2021 1:47 AM
    Reply to  Ort

    lol. Yes. But i don’t think they have that much insight. 🙂

    Tim Drayton
    Tim Drayton
    Aug 22, 2021 1:57 PM
    Reply to  Maiasta

    Yes, I made that comment while still watching the video and the police intervention comes at the end.

    George Mc
    George Mc
    Aug 21, 2021 11:31 AM

    The Trump manoeuvre stands as a basic blueprint for the partisan political branding of covid. Trump says the things that anyone with a brain would say. But since he is “the new fascist far right Hitlerian dictator” etc., these patently reasonable dismissals of the covid shit are tainted by political association.

    And the other side naturally springs into action with the covid whoring abasement now presented as “progressive”, “Left” etc. – an embarrassingly stupid position that would have failed dismally without the Trumpian Satan Show.

    And that is why we have such Right figures as Toby Young and James Delingpole etc. standing by the calling out of the covid claptrap. “Oh you don’t want to be linked with these authoritarian fascistic reactionaries!” etc. 

    2fat2surf
    2fat2surf
    Aug 21, 2021 3:25 PM
    Reply to  George Mc

    I suggest that it can be looked at as a conflict between internationalists and nationalists.
    Internationalists are the looters who scurry of to another host once that country has been destroyed. Nationalists want to see their own country prosper. It truly is that simple.

    Dr Rogue
    Dr Rogue
    Aug 21, 2021 3:53 PM
    Reply to  George Mc

    I am curious as to what things Trump said about the scamdemic “that anyone with a brain would say” .
    I believe Trump is/was supported by a section of the US population largely because of his stance on immigration. I have seen no evidence that he cut funding to the WHO over convid.

    George Mc
    George Mc
    Aug 21, 2021 4:57 PM
    Reply to  Dr Rogue

    Watch the film. It’s time to drop the pantomime Left/Right act. He and every other politician serves the covid agenda.

    Dr Rogue
    Dr Rogue
    Aug 21, 2021 11:09 PM
    Reply to  George Mc

    OK, I watched it. As i generally ignore all US president talk I had not caught those common sense comments that he made on convid, and I was never impressed by anyone recommending either HCQ or Ivermectin.

    But of course he didn’t do anything to nip the problem in the bud – I guess he never really had the support of the military top dogs.

    George Mc
    George Mc
    Aug 22, 2021 8:29 AM
    Reply to  Dr Rogue

    He didn’t do anything to nip the problem because that wasn’t his job. His job was to provide the sensible arguments which, coming from a designated Hitler like him, were therby discredited. Meanwhile the utter shit gets spouted, and therefore blessed, by the “right on Left”.

    Build Back Botter
    Build Back Botter
    Aug 21, 2021 11:22 AM

    Sadly, we’ve been lied to for over a century regarding medical science.

    “Viruses have been traveling globally, above the atmospheric boundary layer, for millions of years, long before machines for air travel were invented. Their genetic codes have been blanketing the earth for eons, creating biodiversity and allowing for adaptation throughout the ecosystem. By adaptation, I mean that viruses are always seeking to adapt their genetic codes for the purpose of creating resilient health in all of the planet’s life forms. It is ridiculous to suggest that, in order to travel from one region of the globe to another, a virus must hop on an aircraft, as RAND’s National Security Research Division would have us believe. 

    Furthermore, viruses—including coronaviruses—do not come in waves and then disappear without a trace, only to miraculously reappear later in the same spot or a different one. Instead, viruses never leave, never expire. They inhabit every element in the environment around us. In short, they are omnipresent and ever-present.

    Our relationship with particular viruses can change as a consequence of our harmful actions toward nature. Whenever humans poison and pollute the air, soil, and water, they create an imbalance between humanity and the virome—an imbalance that can cause us to come into disequilibrium with a particular virus.

    Unfortunately, the allopathic medicine regime, which plutocrats John D. Rockefeller and Andrew Carnegie forced on most of the world with their 1910 Flexner Report, still has a large segment of the scientific community believing that bacteria, fungi, and viruses are our enemy.”

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/humanity-march-toward-extinction/5750260

    Dr Rogue
    Dr Rogue
    Aug 21, 2021 11:27 PM

    Viruses have been traveling globally, above the atmospheric boundary layer, for millions of years

    Like much science on “viruses”, this is hypothetical.

    There is less evidence of dust carrying viruses [38], although they appear to be effectively aerosolized from the sea surface, and are largely associated with organic matrices of transparent exopolymeric particles [11, 37]. These exopolymeric particles strongly absorb ultraviolet wavelengths [39] and likely prevent complete dehydration; hence, these particles may assist in the persistence and viability of viruses and bacteria in the upper atmosphere during long-distance transport.

    “May assist”… it is hard to see how any virus can remain “viable” anywhere outside living bodies for any significant length of time. The cited source for the “exopolymeric particles” talks about UV-B but UV-C radiation is better at destroying exposed DNA/RNA material, and the source study is not concerned with viruses at all.

    Virology is modern day hocus pocus!

    Veri Tas
    Veri Tas
    Aug 22, 2021 12:36 AM

    Viruses that “invade” the body / are “transmitted” through the air do not exist Dismantling-the-Virus-Theory.pdf.

    John
    John
    Aug 22, 2021 2:48 AM

    and they killed off the most important human rediscovery of all time. Mesmerism.

    George Mc
    George Mc
    Aug 21, 2021 11:19 AM

    Admin I just put in a post that has been eaten by the spam folder. Can you please rescue it before it’s too old for anyone to care?

    George Mc
    George Mc
    Aug 21, 2021 11:32 AM
    Reply to  George Mc

    And another one too. What is it with this fucking spam folder?

    rubberheid
    rubberheid
    Aug 21, 2021 4:13 PM
    Reply to  George Mc

    it does just seem random! only happened to my inanities twice, maybe thrice… two were utter random, one was reply to you, other was rather critical of the perv-gender lobby and Ardern-thing…???

    rubberheid
    rubberheid
    Aug 21, 2021 4:14 PM
    Reply to  rubberheid

    the latter never appeared…..

    George Mc
    George Mc
    Aug 21, 2021 11:16 AM

    I stand abashed. There was me assuming that the Trump election came as a surprise and the rulers went into a panic etc. But as Miller says here, the initial Trump triumph was just another notch in the plan. Trump had to get in to present the clearly reasonable case against the covid crap purely in order to then associate that reasonable case with Right Wing extremist lunacy etc. And in the figure of Trump, you had the entire “wing branding” manoeuvre so essential to the covid con.

    Miller also notes how previously “Left” and “liberal” channels were very astute at critiquing on media manipulation but have now succumbed to this game.

    Dr Peter McCullough trashes the hydroxychloroquine angle with statements that are actually true but reversed i.e. that there is indeed a massive fraud spanning both political wings and parts of the scientific community but he misattributes it to Trump’s apparent recommendation.

    The pantomime of the Capitol riot blown up to the status of a coup – Chomsky as part of this charade (and did anyone notice how Chomsky himself is starting to resemble one of Tolkien’s Ringwraith’s?) Interesting to see what a real coup looks like – Chile’s ascent of Pinochet (one of those “lonely restorationists” according to that awfully civilised Roger Scruton).

    And the close delivers the Bob Dylan’s “Let Me Die In My Footsteps” as an accompaniment to the protests around the world. On the odysee.com site, this video is given the date August 5th. The accusation of paedophile assault re: Dylan was made eight days later. The effect: now, should this video attain a mass audience, the MSM can claim that the closing song is from a paedophile and that the sceptical anti-vax movement is now linked to paedophilia. Yes – ludicrous but it’s all about making emotional connections.

    2fat2surf
    2fat2surf
    Aug 21, 2021 3:48 PM
    Reply to  George Mc

    With regards to Trump. Trump was always a shill. He did as he was told and will always do as he is told. He was created as a necessary sop to the people care about their own country. But he was always a traitor.
    For Gods sake he came out of NYC. One of the most corrupt places in the world. Like Obama came out of Chicago.
    Who’s pulling the strings? I always go back to 911. Get the ones behind 911 and you get the ones behind this covid fraud.

    strange
    strange
    Aug 21, 2021 11:01 AM

    “putting people at risk”

    my chemist said, those who don’t wear a mask are potential murderers.

    John
    John
    Aug 21, 2021 11:29 AM
    Reply to  strange

    Yup the vaxxed and about to be vaxxed are very weird people. Like they have been chosen or something and nothing you do or say will change their mind. Hypnotised? Subliminal? I don’t watch public TV.

    George Mc
    George Mc
    Aug 21, 2021 11:34 AM
    Reply to  strange

    Hey don’t mock. I was wearing a mask the other day and when I tentatively let down a corner just to snatch a breath, I could hear crashes behind me. When I turned round there was a line of corpses.

    mgeo
    mgeo
    Aug 21, 2021 12:36 PM
    Reply to  George Mc

    Why is it that all the people collecting the trash, including the deadly masks, are not dropping dead?

    S Cooper
    S Cooper
    Aug 21, 2021 11:46 AM
    Reply to  strange

    “Maybe it is time for a change of chemists/pharmacies. A person that stupid may also be stupid and incompetent enough to poison you. Run for your life.”

    Geo Martin
    Geo Martin
    Aug 21, 2021 1:04 PM
    Reply to  strange

    A case of the pot calling the kettle black as a chemist is a potential murderer.
    Anyway, there’s a different reality perseption in the ones who follow the religion of death that is dominant now. You can’t get through to them, we may share the same space and time at the moment but exist in different dimensions.

    Pig Swill
    Pig Swill
    Aug 21, 2021 2:34 PM
    Reply to  strange

    Fucking chemists? Those sly bastards have a license to print money in this day and age. Every man and his dog has some frigging ailment they think a bottle of some crap will solve. Fuck the chemist.

    Veri Tas
    Veri Tas
    Aug 22, 2021 12:37 AM
    Reply to  strange

    He’s swallowed too many pills.

    Petra Liverani
    Petra Liverani
    Aug 21, 2021 9:36 AM

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    TFS
    TFS
    Aug 21, 2021 9:32 AM

    Jimmy Dore/Forbidden Speach.

    This is one of Jimmy Dores latest:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9DbTimhVJc

    Whilst Jimmy goes on about the video being classified as ‘Hate or Harrasement’, it definetly falls under the category of ‘Disparagement’, which is defined as:

    These verbs mean to minimize the value or importance of someone or something. Disparage implies a critical or dismissive attitude often accompanied by disrespect: “Leaders who wouldn’t be caught dead making religious or ethnic slurs don’t hesitate to disparage the ‘godless’ among us” (Daniel C. Dennett).
    Denigrate often adds a note of contempt: “elitist music critics who denigrated jazz by portraying it as inferior to the classical tradition” (Tyler Stovall).
    Belittle means to reduce someone or something to a lowly status, often in an arrogant or hurtful manner: “those who would mock and belittle others simply on the basis of their physical appearance” (Tyler Dilts).
    Depreciate implies the assignment of a low estimation of value or worth, though the judgment it expresses is generally less disdainful than in the previous terms: “[19th-century American] literature was still mainly subservient to English models and depreciated as secondhand and second rate” (Chronology of American Literature).

    So, there we have it……..disrepecting AOC is worthy of Twitter wrath….TRULY EXCEPTIONAL!

    Ilya G Poimandres
    Ilya G Poimandres
    Aug 21, 2021 10:05 AM
    Reply to  TFS

    They’ll cancel him soon enough!

    shamen
    shamen
    Aug 21, 2021 10:14 AM

    he has never said f*ckl all anywhere it just entertainment for the deluded dummiess who believe in polytricks.!

    Hugh O’NEILL
    Hugh O’NEILL
    Aug 21, 2021 9:18 AM

    Superb interview and film footage shows how evil are the global elites. The inspirational message is that the elites have overplayed their hand, and their house of cards is teetering on the edge of collapse. Though they may try to pit the Vaccinated against the Unvaccinated, we have to reach out to our fellow citizens, including the police and army, and show them who is the real enemy of Mankind. National strikes and targeted boycotts are just a small part of our intellectual arsenal. Non violence will ultimately be more successful than the violence the elites are trying very hard to provoke. Venceremos

    Geo Martin
    Geo Martin
    Aug 21, 2021 1:22 PM
    Reply to  Hugh O’NEILL

    Man it’s always the same. I’ve been hearing this jive all my life, the revolution that never comes. The police and the army are going to turn against their own commanders? The global elites have not overplayed their hand, look around you, talk to the people, we are clueless like sheep without a shepherd.
    Besides you can’t overthrow a system without a new system to replace it. Or what is the proposal, to get rid of this batch of politicians and bring up the next? Or are the sargeants and captains somehow less susceptible to being corrupted than the generals?
    Sorry for the black pill but to be expecting some saviour from this world is self defeating and just making another deal with evil.

    Joerg
    Joerg
    Aug 21, 2021 9:12 AM

    “category of forbidden speech”….
    They blocked “Penny”, the Canadian blogger, critical to lock-down and vaccination : Her site http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.com/  is blocked by the blog-provider “BLOGGER”.
     

    Mishko
    Mishko
    Aug 21, 2021 11:41 AM
    Reply to  Joerg

    “Blogger”, one of Google’s services.
    Total Information Awareness and Full Spectrum Dominance?
    Looks like it.

    I very much admire and miss her views on geo-politics.

    Penny
    Penny
    Aug 21, 2021 2:18 PM
    Reply to  Mishko

    Thanks Mishko 🙂
    https://pfyt2.wordpress.com/

    Work in progress, but, I’ll get there!

    Penny
    Penny
    Aug 21, 2021 2:17 PM
    Reply to  Joerg

    Joerg:
    yes, my blog was made inaccessible because it violated community standards?
    I did ask for a response from blogger and so far nothing.
    I’m unsure what “community standards” are being violated?
    Not ever believing that following the crowd, conformity and non thinking were community standards to strive for or desire?
    find me at
    https://pfyt2.wordpress.com/
    It’s a work in progress

    Thom
    Thom
    Aug 21, 2021 7:58 AM

    Well it’s the big vax rally in Central Park today. No surprise that Bruce Springsteen will be there, shilling for the deep state as he has for decades but disappointed in Paul Simon. Still that last chorus of The Boxer should be a treat with thousands of the vaxxed-only singing along – a fitting epitaph for the covid scam hopefully – will Paul dare?:

    ‘Lie la lie, lie la lie la lie la lie
    Lie la lie, lie la lie la lie la lie, la la lie la lie
    Lie la lie, lie la lie la lie la lie
    Lie la lie, lie la lie la lie la lie, la la lie la lie
    Lie la lie, lie la lie la lie la lie
    Lie la lie, lie la lie la lie la lie, la la lie la lie’

    George Mc
    George Mc
    Aug 21, 2021 8:53 AM
    Reply to  Thom

    God protect us from “well meaning” celebs eager to show off their saintliness. I reckon it’s time for an outoing of the following songs:

    Liar – Queen
    Liar – Camila Cabello (paired with its other side: Shameless)
    I Can See A Liar – Oasis

    And how about this verse from Neil Young?:

    I never knew a man could tell so many lies

    He had a different story for every set of eyes

    How can he remember who he’s talking to?

    ‘Cause I know it ain’t me, and hope it isn’t you

    Howard
    Howard
    Aug 21, 2021 1:19 PM
    Reply to  George Mc

    There’s a guiding principle in there somewhere – and I think I found it: don’t throw out the artist with the celebrity.

    I’ve never been – and hopefully will never sink so low as to be – a “fan” of anyone. If a particular artist creates a work of art I’m grateful for, I will thank him or her or them for it. But I will never grant its creator the honor (or dishonor) of subordinating myself to him or her or them.

    Even the greatest artist suffers from the same malady as the rest of us: being human. Which means living in mortal fear of the siren song societies continually play in the background to lure its members into the whirlpool of public acclaim whether as captain or crew of the doomed vessel.

    Acclaim is a disease far worse than anything in the allopathic lexicon, for it slowly, insidiously corrupts the soul, until the day comes when the artist is completely subsumed within the celebrity.

    On the day when the artist says “It’s all about me” instead of “It’s about my work,” that artist forfeits all claim to the designation of artist.

    Paul Vonharnish
    Paul Vonharnish
    Aug 21, 2021 2:54 PM
    Reply to  Howard

    Isn’t That What Friends Are For? – Bruce Cockburn

    “Everyone gets a chance to be nothing.”

    Geo Martin
    Geo Martin
    Aug 21, 2021 1:25 PM
    Reply to  Thom

    It doesn’t matter, they can sign that to the top of their lungs that they wouldn’t see a contradiciton if their lives depended on it, literally.

    hele
    hele
    Aug 22, 2021 3:26 AM