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WATCH: COVID19/11 – Katharine Gun Episode two of Narratives Intertwined

COVID19/11: Narratives Intertwined is OffG’s new series of short interviews with prominent voices in the alternate media, vocal Covid sceptics and leading figures in the 9/11 truth movement.
The series is intended to both mark the 20th anniversary of the World Trade Center collapse, and discuss how that event helped shape the modern world and, in turn, set the stage for the Covid “pandemic”.

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Episode two of Narratives Intertwined features Katharine Gun, the ex-GCHQ translator turned whistleblower, who was charged under the Official Secrets Act for leaking evidence of diplomatic corruption in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Since then she has become a prominent anti-war and pro-free speech advocate. The 2019 film Official Secrets, starring Keira Knightley, is based on her experience.

In her interview, Katharine discusses the impact of 9/11 on her political development, the hijacking of the Covid narrative and the importance of free speech to any kind of civilized, open and honest debate.

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Jonathan Castro
Jonathan Castro
Sep 13, 2021 10:05 PM

My brother used to work with Katherine when he was at GCHQ.

douglas
douglas
Sep 8, 2021 12:16 AM

Well said, Ms. Gun. Clear and spot on!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 7, 2021 2:09 PM

“There is a major construction project going on.”
[04:10]

Trial set to resume for men accused of plotting 9/11 terror attacks
CBS News
Sep 6, 2021
Nearly 20 years after the 9/11 terror attacks, the trial for the men accused of plotting the attacks is set to resume after a 19-month pause due to COVID-19. The defendants, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-described architect of the attacks, arrived at the U.S. prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, over a decade ago. CBS News senior investigative correspondent Catherine Herridge joins CBSN’s Debra Alfarone from Guantanamo Bay with the latest.

Diego
Diego
Sep 7, 2021 4:47 AM

“Juvenile”?
Interesting choice of words.

Diego
Diego
Sep 7, 2021 4:44 AM

I wish we wouldn’t use the term Covid Skeptic. I believe, we shouldn’t use it.

It denotes doubt. It legitimizes them.
We are not doubtful.

It also focuses on an illness (following their lead), not on the crimes perpetrated against humanity, the devastating of human rights and spirit through a world criminal tyranny and the implementation of a world government of the elites, by the elites and for the elites and all the darkness that animates such greed.
This is why we are not doubtful.

Language is a weapon. In the information war, one of the biggest weapons we have.
I believe it is important to reflect and understand this. In fact, I am very surprised by this poor choice of language by Off-Guardian and others.
Let’s use our weapons to our benefit, not the enemy’s.

Thanks Off-G for this video post.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 7, 2021 7:54 AM
Reply to  Diego

I wish we wouldn’t use the term Covid Skeptic.

Totally agree. There is no doubt. People seem to think that to express certainty is to be unscientific but that is not the case where certainty exists. Where certainty exists NOT to express certainty is unscientific.

Let’s use our weapons to our benefit, not the enemy’s.

Precisely!

Sophie - Admin1
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Sophie - Admin1
Sep 7, 2021 12:37 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

True certainty is virtually impossible scientifically. All conclusions are provisional. Certainty is an emotional human response that reflects very little of external reality.

Diego
Diego
Sep 7, 2021 1:53 PM

Not to agree or disagree with your statement, nor engage in a philosophical or sophistic argument about what certainty is, but you are missing and diverting the point of the thread.

Are you not certain that what is happening is a crime against our human rights? And that it is not about a real or imagined virus but about socioeconomic, political and psychological control of the population?

If you are certain, then please consider dropping the expression Covid Skeptic as it does not benefit us but rather plays against us.

Thank you and keep up the good work.

Aethelred
Aethelred
Sep 7, 2021 10:55 AM
Reply to  Diego

That term (the c word) is a code word, an NLP trigger. Don’t use it at all. Call it the fake virus, or anything. Don’t use their terms.

Vedex
Vedex
Sep 6, 2021 11:59 AM

I thought the film was good.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 6, 2021 8:53 AM

I believe the most expedient time you can spend investigating 9/11 is in watching this one hour film from Russian, Olga Klimova. The Table of Contents (below) and transcript are provided underneath the film.
http://www.earthlyfireflies.org/911-fraud/

ANALYSIS OF THE OFFICIAL STORY
The 9/11 official story
Media fakery ingredients and facts

Story Ingredient 1. Can plane collapse a building?
What the experts say
1) Could there be enough heat to melt steel?
2) Could a plane even go through steel? And why there’s no even damage occurred to the airplane?
3) Could ‘free fall’ of buildings be possible?

Conspiracy theories
Three levels of the awareness of conspiracies
9/11 conspiracy theorists
What 9/11 was in reality
How the towers were brought down – the actual demolition process

How they prevented taking private images
Preventive 1. Smoke screen
Preventive 2. Electromagnetic storm paralyzed all cell phones and cameras
Preventive 3. Drills early that day in Manhattan ensured no one is around
All imagery was fabricated
How the plane animation is done

Story Ingredient 2. Could empty buildings contain jumpers?
1993 bombing
‘Art project’ 6 months prior, with a helicopter
How they faked the sky jumpers

Story Ingredient 3. Medical assistance prepared – no one came
What were the reasons for killing people?
There were no patients in the hospitals
How they faked hospital beds – created appearance of injured

Story Ingredient 4. Memorials that don’t match
Victim memorials
Victim simulation
Total fakery of the event

Story Ingredient 5. Crisis actors that played relatives of victims
Crisis acting services
9/11 crisis actors
Jersey girls ‘widows’

Story Ingredient 6. Inventive missing person flyers and amateur videos creator
Dr. Nevaer with mission person flies exhibition
Steve Rosenbaum, the creator of the 9/11 “amateur videos”

Story Ingredient 7. Smart inside jokes or brilliant subliminals

THE TRUTH
9/11 agenda
The government propaganda
Fears
Cognitive dissonance
To those who refuse to see the truth
Understand people don’t need the government – the government itself is the biggest hoax ever!
Their sepulchres are empty
You can’t reach them
They don’t even read the laws they release
They’re just actors
The government screen
Life without a government
The morality

WORKS CITED

Diego
Diego
Sep 7, 2021 6:42 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Thanks for that.

I like the final overall message of the documentary and I shall go back to studying Tolstoy.

It also starts to explore the fake imagery of the planes, which seems very probably and plausible. I wish it had been done in more detail to be convincing as well (at least to me).

I have a few issues with that narrative and analysis:

  • The electromagnetic storm to paralyze phones and cameras

It is somehow implied that phones were used to take pictures. I don’t think that was the case in 2001. Could electromagnetic rays disable digital cameras? If so, I don’t think they could disable mechanical cameras, which is reasonable to assume were everywhere in New York at the time, owned by journalists, residents and tourists. Those professional or amateur photographers would rush to take out their cameras and take pictures from wherever they were at the time, be it close to the site or at a safe distance.

  • That most live witnesses would rush home to see everything from the TV and not live?

Certainly not me, and like me, millions of others. Imagine photographers!
In any case, you could be standing at a window far from the sight and take very clear pictures with a good camera and zoom.

  • That the perpetrators created a digital smokescreen for those watching on TV while then imploding the buildings.

Again, what about the people taking witnessing live and taking pictures from nearby or from far? They certainly took pictures of the action and of the buildings collapsing or not collapsing before the dust cloud enveloped them.That particular narrative is thrown in as if “why not”? with no real analysis or questions like “Why create a digital smokescreen from a fake demolition to then carry out the real demolition without nobody seeing it?
Did I misunderstand that part? Maybe I did.

  • The buildings were empty and nobody died because the perpetrators would feel better about deceiving the people without murdering some of them.

Who knows. Maybe they were empty. Some investigators claim, only certain people were warned not to go to work. But according to reasoning of the creators of this video, 10 thousand well connected financiers, brokers, lawyers and uptown people would dig deep and hire the best lawyers if their relatives had been murdered. Could they also not, if not go to court, at least raise their voices about the buildings being completely empty (since they would know)?
And that the perpetrators would feel better about not murdering people to get what they want? I’m sorry, Petra, my friend. Really?

  • 911 was done to strengthen the government power over the people.

By all means on the aftermath and short while after it. But soon after, it undermined it, specially when dissident narratives are allowed to reach the public.So, it stands to reason that the political managers would want to strengthen their immediate power for clear short-sighted objectives. The directors, however, with long-sighted objectives, know better.

Thanks again and stay strong.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 7, 2021 1:09 PM
Reply to  Diego

— Planes
There is zero doubt about the planes, Diego. Planes don’t melt into buildings, airliners couldn’t fly at the stated speeds at that altitude and all the other evidence (or lack of) supports no planes. There is absolutely nothing at all to suggest any of the four planes were real. I know someone who was in NY and he said he saw a plane which he didn’t see actually fly into the building – I cannot say what he saw – a hologram? – but the footage does not show real planes, that’s for sure.

— Electromagnetic storm
I agree you’d expect people to have mechanical cameras that weren’t affected.

— That most live witnesses would rush home to see everything from the TV and not live?
It’s all just speculation, isn’t it? People may have been herded away somehow. I do not know.

— That the perpetrators created a digital smokescreen for those watching on TV while then imploding the buildings.
I think it’s quite possible but I don’t know and I don’t think it’s so important.

— The buildings were empty and nobody died because the perpetrators would feel better about deceiving the people without murdering some of them.

All purported evidence of death and injury fits fake perfectly.

FACT: It is impossible to describe any purported evidence for death and injury as favouring real over fake.

Numerous drills were reported on the day and I think the most obvious explanation for 9/11 is that it was a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise pushed out as a real event comprising the drills they told us about plus a few crucial extras that they didn’t tell us about such as those producing the images of the injured. In this case, many personnel would be involved and thus they wouldn’t want to kill people and there would be no need – all they had to do was evacuate the buildings while blocking entry massively beforehand with drills. Admittedly, they are killing people galore in this pandemic exercise with aggressive drug trials and the vaccines but it’s a different situation.

Sophie - Admin1
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Sophie - Admin1
Sep 8, 2021 3:22 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

All purported evidence of death and injury fits fake perfectly.

But does it fit fake better than it fits real?

Everything that looks real might be fake. But we’re only justified in assuming fake if there’s actual evidence it can’t be real.

The bodies of the jumpers for example are exactly consistent with what human bodies look like after high impact trauma. No evidence for fake there at all.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 9, 2021 6:09 AM

I regret that sentence, Sophie. This is my complete case for death and injury staged.

Of the purported evidence for death and injury:
All of it fits fake, while some of it favours fake over real and none of it favours real over fake.

I claim that this dead body is inconsistent with what a body looks like regardless of trauma and I make my case as comprehensively as possible. If you have a case to say that the object presented is, in fact, a dead body, please make your case.

Warning: gruesome.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/9-11-fake-dead-body.html

I said I wouldn’t discuss this aspect of 9/11 any more and this is definitely it, Sophie, unless you come back with a good case for the dead body above or any other dead body or any other purported evidence favouring real over fake. That I am prepared to discuss but other than that, I’ve made my case, end of.

I’ve asked you at least once and I believe a few times for evidence that favours real over fake for death and injury but you have never presented it as far as I recall. You say the “bodies of the jumpers for example are exactly consistent with what bodies look like after high impact trauma” but I don’t recall where you have analysed in detail unless it was you who proffered the analogy of a head popping out of its skin on impact with railway tracks which I address in my case presented for the dead body above.

Sophie - Admin1
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Sophie - Admin1
Sep 9, 2021 8:47 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

I have read your text at that link. Your case is basically that YOU, a non-medically qualified person with ZERO experience of observing the effects of major trauma on human bodies, don’t believe it looks like a real body would after falling 80+ floors to the ground.

You offer NO evidence to support your opinion. You don’t compare the photo to other photos of people who died in a similar way. You don’t, even after I suggested it, ask the opinion of some qualified professionals who deal with trauma death and injury.

You offer your uninformed opinion. Ok, now I offer mine –

High impact literally liquifies the contents of a body. Flesh and bone and organs turn to mush and at the same time the pressure of rapid deceleration squeezes this mush out of the containing skin at various points of weakness, leaving the skin looking like an empty ‘bag’ or ‘tube’.

Think about squeezing the meat out of a sausage skin.

The ‘content’ of the victim’s leg in that photo, liquidized flesh and bone, are extruded out through the skin of the foot, as once was. The anatomy is destroyed beyond recognition and the skin of the leg remains like an empty sausage skin.

The contents of the abdomen are likewise extruded through the anal opening. The yellow stuff is abdominal body fat. The rest is partially liquefied intestines, gonads etc.

The lower body is more visibly destroyed than the upper body as this unfortunate clearly hit the ground feet first.

There. That’s my ‘case’, which is certainly more detailed and falsifiable than yours. But neither really matters. There’s only 3 things you need to do before you can claim that body is fake –

1. Make comparative studies with the bodies of other people who have jumped from similar heights

2. Consult a medical expert

3. CONSULT A MEDICAL EXPERT.

Until you do that you have nothing.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 9, 2021 9:31 AM

I would very much like to compare the body to bodies produced from a similar situation but I cannot find one, Sophie, if you’ve got one please point me to it.

A friend who is a nurse says the body doesn’t look like a real body, particularly the legs and the feet. Perhaps you don’t think her sufficiently medically qualified, Sophie, but in any case my argument is more that the object doesn’t look like a body at all, regardless of trauma, for example, the pink material looks like fabric and I see no reason that trauma would transform flesh to look like fabric – if you have reason to believe that flesh can be transformed to look like fabric please let me know what it is or if you think that the pink material indeed looks like flesh please give your reasons.

I say the pink material looks like fabric not skin – this is from my own experience of being a human and seeing my own body and those of others, I don’t believe that someone needs to be medically qualified to comment on the nature of the pink material.

Even if the body of a jumper might look like the body that is presented to us, Sophie, what you need is a case for what is presented as FAVOURING real over fake. Obviously, it’s possible to fake a dead body even quite realistically. You’re putting forward how a real dead body might look like what we’re shown but equally couldn’t they fake it that way? What says real is favoured over fake?

What you have failed to do, Sophie, is present any case for any piece of purported evidence FAVOURING real over fake. That something might look real enough doesn’t mean it couldn’t be fake. Where is your case for any piece of evidence favouring real over fake?

I make my case for death and injury being staged. You have not made a single point for death and injury being real other than your belief that Lower Manhattan couldn’t have been evacuated but that is simply speculation, you haven’t presented a single skerrick of evidence that favours real over fake, not a single one. Your explanation for how the dead body might be real doesn’t FAVOUR real over fake.

I don’t know why it doesn’t strike you as massively important that you do not have a single skerrick of evidence that favours real over fake while I have a presented quite a number of pieces that show fakery quite obviously such as Marlene Cruz, Pasquale Buzzelli, the guy with vitiligo presented as burns sufferer and significant other evidence that favours fake over real.

This is my last word on the subject unless you can present something that FAVOURS real over fake, it must FAVOUR it, Sophie, not just explain it as easily as fake might explain it.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 9, 2021 12:05 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Is your ‘nurse friend’ a trauma nurse? Does she have experience with comparable injuries? If so then ask her to contribute an analysis to your currently fact-free page. That would boost your credibility massively.

If she ain’t a trauma expert – find someone who is!

OF COURSE you can find photos of people who died from jumping off high buildings! Do you have no initiative? Don’t just Google. Make inquiries. Do actual research for once!

What would you accept as a “skerrick” of evidence for real over fake? If it “looks fake” you think it’s fake. But if it “looks real” you also think it’s fake. What falsifies your hypothesis? What would disprove it in your opinion? If the answer is “nothing” – you have a serious problem 🤔

Small point but why do you keep obsessively using my name, Petra? It feels a bit creepy Petra. Doesn’t it, Petra?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 9, 2021 2:36 PM

You’re only treating the body as something that’s suffered trauma rather than a body regardless. A body is a body trauma or not and things can be ascertained outside of the trauma.

My “nurse friend” is not a trauma nurse but she’s familiar with bodies as we all are. I think you’re putting too much weight on the trauma aspect while ignoring the fact that a body is a body.

I am not going to research beyond what I’ve done because I am satisfied the body is fake … and I’m also satisfied that there is absolutely overwhelming evidence that 100% supports and favours the hypothesis that 9/11 was a massive Full-Scale Anti-Terrorist Exercise pushed out as a real event where the only major physical occurrence was destruction of buildings.

I won’t discuss this again with you, Sophie. You still haven’t supplied a single skerrick of evidence that favours real over fake. You’re asking me what I’d accept? Why don’t you just tell me what you think favours real over fake regardless of whether I’ll accept it or not. You seem to think that people died and were injured so isn’t there evidence that you think favours real over fake regardless of whether I’d accept it or not? For goodness sake how many times have we gone round and round and yet never once have you supplied a single skerrick of evidence that YOU think favours real over fake. To believe that death and injury were real you need evidence that favours real over fake, don’t you? Isn’t that a basic requirement for goodness sake.

I don’t just say it “looks fake”. Marlene Cruz doesn’t just look fake, her presentation is so beyond reality it’s a complete joke – they always push it in our faces as I keep saying – same for Pasquale Buzzelli and the guy with vitiligo. So very many things that can be said to support fake over real which aren’t a matter of saying they “look fake”. It’s impossible for someone to fall 22 floors in a controlled demolition and survive let alone be back at work within 3 months.

So sad that still the WTC-7 “smoking gun” propaganda is still going strong, so sad that the truth is being retarded at every turn about what 9/11 really was. Very sad … but the perps knew they’d succeed at suppressing the truth … they’ve done it too many times before … and, of course, are doing right now massively. They know how to pull off these things unfortunately, they really know how to do it.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 9, 2021 3:39 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

You’re only treating the body as something that’s suffered trauma rather than a body regardless. A body is a body trauma or not and things can be ascertained outside of the trauma.

🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ This is your much-vaunted reasoning skills I take it? A body will always look the same no matter what happens to it. Drop it from 80 floors, push it through a mincer, it’s still a body and will look like every other body!

Speechless. Truly.

I am not going to research beyond what I’ve done because I am satisfied the body is fake

so, your ‘I just follow the facts’ boasting means you cherry pick and twist some facts to support what you want to believe, then completely stop following the facts in case they prove your belief is wrong.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 10, 2021 12:11 AM

Where is your single skerrick of evidence that favours real over fake?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 10, 2021 4:18 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

The fact it LOOKS REAL! Just like if it LOOKED FAKE it would be evidence for it being fake.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 10, 2021 9:17 AM

Apologies Sophie I wFtasn’t clear. As neither of us is an expert in trauma victims let’s leave the dead body out of argument and turn to other purported evidence.

Two examples which clearly favour fake over real are the alleged injured Marlene Cruz and Pasquale Buzzelli. We are shown Marlene in a hospital bed allegedly in the mental hospital Bellevue with the name of the hospital clearly displayed behind her which is in contradiction to reality plus the fact that she’s being interviewed with her head raised from her pillow which is also against reality. Similarly for Pasquale we are told that he fell 22 floors as one of the towers collapsed and he returned to work within 3 months with no injury to speak of.

These two are clearly examples of “revelation of the method” or “hidden in plain sight” which always features in their psyops.

So putting aside the dead body can you identify a piece of evidence that favours real over fake?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 10, 2021 10:42 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Bellevue is NOT just a mental hospital!

I know Bellevue well! It has a big ER/trauma department and would be a natural place to take casualties on 9/11.

Jeez, Petra, all you need to do is Google ffs! It’s sickening that you brag and boast endlessly about how fact-based you are, when you barely bother to do even rudimentary research.

I haven’t bothered to check the rest of your ‘facts’ – but I think YOU should. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 10, 2021 11:55 AM

My apologies, I read that it was a mental hospital, however, fortunately when they over-egg the omelette with their fakery there’s usually a few different aspects to fall back on so if you’re wrong about one aspect the other aspects will work. The way that Marlene is lifting her head from the pillow is not consistent with someone who was supposedly in a lift blasted by a bomb and why would someone hold their head awkwardly in that position for any reason?
https://youtu.be/TSGZYP–wz0

Pasquale’s testimony is ridiculous in the extreme.
https://nymag.com/nymetro/news/sept11/2003/n_9189/

Regardless of what I put forward that I believe favours fake over real you are yet to put anything forward that you feel favours real over fake. Are you going to do that Sophie?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 10, 2021 4:14 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Petra – the guy in the vid actually comments on the way she is holding her head and suggests someone told her to for the camera. How on God’s green earth do you get from that to “she’s holding her head weird, it must be fake”??

You are coming across – in all seriousness – as genuinely deranged right now.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 11, 2021 5:53 AM

Okaay, Sophie, this is proving much more difficult than I thought it would be. Perhaps moving on so blithely from the dead body was a mistake so I think we really should get the dead body sorted as to me it’s so obviously fake.

Warning: gruesome
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/9-11-fake-dead-body.html

While my nurse friend isn’t currently a trauma nurse she has worked in emergency and seen accident victims and she says quite categorically that the object is not a body. One thing she pointed out is that when a head suffers severe impact a pool of blood forms around it and we see no blood around the head. Even if the person landed sitting rather than on their back we’d expect the head to be severely impacted when it hit the pavement I think.

My questions:

1. Let’s look at the flat pink tube which I anticipate we both agree represents a left leg.

You say:

High impact literally liquifies the contents of a body. Flesh and bone and organs turn to mush and at the same time the pressure of rapid deceleration squeezes this mush out of the containing skin at various points of weakness, leaving the skin looking like an empty ‘bag’ or ‘tube’.

Can you point to evidence of this claim? I’ve never heard of bones turning to mush on impact – fracturing and fragmenting when small yet but not turning to mush – when we eat meat, the animal has been chopped up, cooked at high heat but nowhere in the process do the bones turn to mush. Even when you make chicken soup which you might boil for hours, the fine carcass (nothing as substantial as a thigh bone, for example) will generally remain intact. I think your claim that the mushy stuff we see contains “liquified bones” is simply extraordinary.

Two members of my family are also nurses and I know a doctor but I’m loath to ask them about the body because they are so not interested in my “conspiracy” stuff and it is rather gruesome. What would be helpful, of course, is if you could get someone to back your opinion on the body and, as said already, provide evidence of bones turning to mush at high impact. Can you do that?

2. Can you explain the reason that the flat tube shows no indication of a knee … or you think there is an indication somewhere or …? If you think there is an indication of a knee can you please describe where you think it is?

3. I found images of trauma at a website and the image linked to shows a patient with protruding small intestine due to a machete injury. The clearly defined sausage-like appearance doesn’t resemble the much looser sausage-y appearance of what we are shown (my impression was that the contents were meant to resemble entrails) but perhaps you’d say the contents are other parts of the body – whatever the small intestine we see in the photo linked to does not resemble any of the contents we are shown.
https://reference.medscape.com/features/slideshow/shockingtrauma#13

3. Can you point to something that you think favours real over fake in relation to the dead body? Even if we were to accept your claims about liquified bones or whatever what, in your opinion, if anything, says the body is real rather than fake? What says it isn’t stuffed bits of material and animal innards rather than an a real dead body?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 11, 2021 6:15 AM

Apologies. Questions 3 and 4 are both numbered 3. Please regard the second item numbered 3 as Question 4 and I’d like to revise Question 3 as – for a start – it’s not framed as a question. I tried to edit but too late.

Question 3 revised:
I found images of trauma at a website and the image linked to shows a patient with protruding small intestine due to a machete injury. The clearly defined sausage-like appearance doesn’t, in my opinion, resemble the much looser sausage-y appearance of what we are shown and nor does this image of the large intestine at the second link (my impression was that the contents were meant to resemble entrails) but perhaps you’d say the contents are other parts of the body? Can you name what inside parts of the body you believe what we are shown represent?

https://reference.medscape.com/features/slideshow/shockingtrauma#13

https://3d4medical.com/blog/the-large-intestine

Cary
Cary
Sep 8, 2021 4:26 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

all they had to do was evacuate the buildings while blocking entry massively beforehand with drills

Oh gosh, is that all?

Diego
Diego
Sep 7, 2021 6:44 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

I just replied with a little analysis of the video.
It is waiting spam check.
Just to let you know, as already some of my comments didn’t make it out of the spam hole.

Thanks.

Jill
Jill
Sep 5, 2021 10:16 PM

Whitney Webb has written several articles about how the same people keep getting recycled to do these horrendous acts of cruelty and evil. Her piece on Dark Winter is a thread connector.

What Ms. Gun says is vital. We are stripping away our ability to think when we prevent people from speaking or being able to hear others. Censorship prevents learning and self reflection, the testing of one’s ideas. The disaster this has wrought lies all around us.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 5, 2021 9:49 PM

Someone else you might ask for a brief statement is is the great German journalist Mathias Bröckers. He was one of the very first to see 9/11 for what it was — I read his article in Telepolis the day after the attacks. A brave man.

He has just published a collected edition of his bestselling books on 9/11, with a new introduction. Over the last 20 years he’s worked tirelessly to inform and educate Germans about that scam&coup. He’s fluent in English, by the way.

Bröckers is also wide awake to the “Covid” fraud, and has spoken about it extensively in monthly podcasts with his admirable colleagues Robert Fleischer and Dirk Pohlmann. They’re all aware of OffGuardian and have cited your work repeatedly.

His website:

https://www.broeckers.com/

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 7, 2021 8:38 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

He just mentioned you again today, in his latest blogpost:

Der “Off Guardian” hat gerade eine Podcast-Serie über die verflochtenen Narrative gestartet: Covid 19/11.

(“OffGuardian has just launched a series of podcasts about the tangled narratives, entitled ‘Covid 19/11’.”)

https://www.broeckers.com/2021/09/07/covid-19-11/

Claret
Claret
Sep 5, 2021 9:48 PM

Hey maybe Katharine also knows 9/11 half-truther bullshitters Annie Machon and David Shayler.Nice couple. Look them up.

gordan
gordan
Sep 5, 2021 8:25 PM

tip of the spear was israeli arts projects all over the area
and the arts froup b thing and gelatine

war deception destruction murder

very little art
no sir

unless one calls kaballa spirit cooking art
demonology more like

and oded yinon projects

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Sep 5, 2021 7:26 PM

Katherine Gunn was a hero with balls of steel to do what she did. Its not possible to over estimate the respect she has for making the stand she did. A person with principle, courage and integrity who stood up face to face with the spook community and said ‘you aren’t wearing any clothes’.

She has exposed by such action the craven cowards and sheep into today’s govt who have rolled over with 2020/1’s version of 911.

With an ounce of such integrity in any of the govt or its medical proxies today and this scam would be over.

Finnian Reilly
Finnian Reilly
Sep 5, 2021 5:38 PM

A great series so far and really well made

John Goss
John Goss
Sep 5, 2021 4:27 PM

You don’t need to be a whistleblower to be a helpful member of society. Katharine Gun is both.

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
Sep 5, 2021 3:19 PM

Was she not allowed to speak on her case i.e. was she not allowed to say that what she witnessed as diplomatic corruption confirmed in her that she should not trust official narratives?

hotrod31
hotrod31
Sep 5, 2021 1:23 PM

Every man and his dog knows that it would and should have been relatively simple to establish whether there were planes hijacked and destroyed on that fateful day. It would have been a simple matter to establish the identity of each plane from the part-numbers from the wreckage of undercarriage or engine bits-and-pieces at the scene [of the crime]. If that wasn’t done … then you have your answer staring you in the face. NO need for 20 year debates and obfuscation/s. You won’t even need to read the excellent works by Christopher Bollyn, or Thierry Meyssan, et al.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 5, 2021 2:57 PM
Reply to  hotrod31

Good point, but people like Bollyn get closer to the actual evidence than we can here…
It’s good to know exact details of the ‘coincidental exercises’ taking place on that day, for example, not to mention the actual names of officials involved in the non-existent ‘oversight’ of these events.

Some of the people involved will talk 20 years on, whether for money, for publicity, or just for the sake of a clearer conscience.
And we should listen, if we are to have a hope of recognizing such infestations of political termites in the future and summoning appropriate exterminators to deal with them.

theguvnor
theguvnor
Sep 5, 2021 6:03 PM
Reply to  hotrod31

Was Flighttracker available then?

rraa
rraa
Sep 5, 2021 10:47 AM

The key to understanding 9/11 is within 15 seconds of the news breaking of the explosion in the north tower. Planes do not glide into buildings like ghosts before exploding. .
TV stations showed an airplane shaped hole with a fire inside with the commentary: we have unconfirmed reports of an airplane crashing into the tower.
If a huge passenger plane had an IMPACT on a solid object like a steel frame skyscraper, there would be nothing unconfirmed about it. There would be a scene of utter devastation on the ground below in addition to inside the tower.
The “live” footage of the second crash came with a five minute delay and some CGI planes. The first takes of the second explosion did not show any plane; that only came minutes later.
Random passerby only reported explosions. One woman in Battery Park reported hearing a huge “sonic boom” type sound, a second or two before the explosion.CNN provided the first “confirmed” report of an airplane from none other than their own VP of Finance Sean Murtagh who claimed to be staring out of the window from 5 Penn Plaza looking southwards at the exact moment. When the reporter asked him on the phone about debris on the ground, he said he was too far away but “the plane seemed to be embedded inside the building.” That myth was perpetuated by being repeated over and over.

The idea of planes came from showing explosions with cartoon planes disappearing behind the building or gliding into them like ghosts and repeated assertions by the commentators. An hour later the plane footage was mostly replaced by the more spectacular images of skyscrapers dustifying themselves.

Based on the fact that there was no crash scene outside the towers, it is 100% sure that passenger planes did not crash into the towers. All the rest is conjecture as to what really happened, but the starting point needs to be this fact.

Even architects and engineers seem to avoid talking about this, I appreciate their work but I have to wonder how they explain a plane entering a building with no impact.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 5, 2021 2:38 PM
Reply to  rraa

Or you’re 100% wilfully self-deluding, rraa. Or trying to get us involved in endless pointless arguments about it. Please take your trolling elsewhere.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 5, 2021 3:08 PM

There’s nothing ‘self-deluding’ about rraa’s comment, but of course the details are only relevant to those bringing scientifically-based court cases, or those who have never questioned the official story before (do such people really exist…?).

For me, WTC7 is THE smoking gun – in spades.
Almost nothing else needs to be said about that day, because, like Watergate, it is the attempted cover-up which casts a military-grade searchlight upon the guilty parties.

Somewhere on record is a judge at some kind of 911 hearing several years ago, who asked, “What’s Building Seven?”
That question speaks volumes.

Claret
Claret
Sep 5, 2021 9:39 PM
Reply to  rraa

‘Based on the fact that there was no crash scene outside the towers, it
is 100% sure that passenger planes did not crash into the towers. All
the rest is conjecture as to what really happened, but the starting
point needs to be this fact.’

….
There are absolutely no aerial vids to see of that ‘fateful day’. It would’ve been a field day for any photographer….however distressing/traumatic it might’ve been.
The images of ‘falling people’ are also faked.

rraa
rraa
Sep 6, 2021 11:36 AM
Reply to  Claret

You are right, the aerial vids would have shown the absence of a crash scene. But there is a whole hour of footage of people walking around calmly right underneath the burning towers and reporters asking them: did you see what happened? Firefighters were entering the towers throughout that whole hour. None of that would have been possible. If an airplane had really exploded and crashed outside the tower, they might not even have been able to enter it from the ground level.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 5, 2021 9:59 PM
Reply to  rraa

I strongly think passenger planes did not hit either WTC1 or 2, the plane seen in the only video of the WTC1 crash is not a 767. That said, what hit the towers is pretty irrelevant, flying objects did not bring them down. Arguing about what hit the towers is like seeing a video of someone being punched in the face, and a half hour later their head explodes, and then people start arguing about the punch, whether it was a martial arts technique,…..

rraa
rraa
Sep 6, 2021 11:31 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Well, if there are no hijacked planes hitting the towers, the whole terror narrative collapses. So in that sense I would say it is relevant.

Johannes
Johannes
Sep 5, 2021 9:32 AM

North tower – 20 stories CANNOT crush 90 to the ground.

Newton said so and no-one has proven him wrong so far.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 5, 2021 8:29 AM

The worm turns… (On the next thread).

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Sep 5, 2021 8:10 AM

Just when you thought this Punch and Judy couldn’t get any worse. Read this MIT article. Seriously

https://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218

The article is dated December 2019…

They don’t mention the dye used in the article but I’ve looked it up. Luciferase
WTF!!!!!

i.e the vaccine passports are a red herring. If you vaccinated you already marked.

Edith
Edith
Sep 5, 2021 8:43 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

By the time this lot get through with the umpteen vax one will be very tattooed I would think….wonder how they work out how many lives they would have saved with vax in under developed countries ….given the toxic nature of many vax.,,

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 5, 2021 3:51 PM
Reply to  Edith
Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 5, 2021 7:27 AM

UK Column News – 3rd September 2021

Coronavirus Act Renewal Vote this Week
Westminster MPs portray emergency powers as ‘cock up’.
https://www.ft.com/content/967f2266-9a1e-4a8f-ad9e-5cdc535165e0

Media Plays Down Lockdown Impact on Mental Health
Official statistics are provisional and manipulated
Office for National Statistics uses age-standardised graphic in stead of absolute numbers. Only for Apr-Jul 2020, very early in the Lockdown.
ONS says coroners can “take months or even years” to register a suicide’ provisional data, subject to change, enables timely analysis.
Mail Article: – https://archive.is/7UMsQ
Brian Gerrish: it is sad to see the ONS under pressure to massage data.

Vaccine Passports Hit Pakistan
Will close motorways to unvaccinated drivers
Pakistan Highways Patrol Tweet — Islamabad Clampdown:

  • No petrol in Lahore from Sep 1
  • No motorway access from Sep 15
  • No domestic flights from Sep 30
  • No shopping in malls from Sep 30 without 2 shots
  • No hotels and restaurants from Sep 30 without 2 shots
  • No weddings from Sep 30 without 2 shots
  • No public transport from Oct 15

Australian Nightmare Darkens
Helicopters at night, harassment by phone
Only two MPs opposed vaccine passports: Craig Kelly and George Christensen.
Kelly calls to vote out all Labour and Liberal MPs: “You can vote for vaccine passports forever or choose freedom” — United Australia Party.
Brian Gerrish: Voting is not the only way to oppose. Every way and everywhere that people refuse to cooperate helps the fight.

British Applied Psychology Used To Suppress AusTralians
UK Gov sold Behavioural Change Technology that came out of the the Behavioural Insights Team and its 2010 Mindspace document.
Australians say getting harder to find information within country; BBC and media blackout abroad.

S Australia Home Quarantine Trial

  • Download app to prove you stayed at home
  • Facial recognition must be provided in 15 minutes
  • Any time of day or night
  • Police turn up if you fail to respond in 15 minutes

Stephen Marshall, S. Australia premier says he is proud to launch the pilot project.
Brian Gerrish – vacant eyes of a dangerous individual. He doesn’t care what effect this has on mental health.

Australian Surveillance Legislation Amendment (Identify and Disrupt) Bill 2020

  • Network Activity Warrants to let Australian Federal Police (AFP) and Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission (ACIC). monitor online activity, without investigating or accusing a person of a crime
  • enable police to take over an account and change their data, which could then be used as evidence in a criminal proceeding
  • data disruption powers to stop the suspected commission of an offence using a computer
  • failure to comply with a data disruption warrant could result in a 10 year jail term

“The Richardson review concluded that this bill enables the AFP and ACIC to be ‘judge, jury and executioner’.” — Senator Lidia Thorpe, Greens spokesperson for Justice.
UK Online Harms Bill likely to give similar powers.

Future of Work and Disrupted Education
World Economic Forum proposes:

  • GPs to be replaced by an app
  • Humanless factories, Universal Basic Income
  • Banks replaced with digital currency

Mike Robinson: they want to re-educate children so that they will accept this future
Brian Gerrish: disruption is how you destabilise an organization or a company so that you can steer it into a new direction.

Euthanasia Shot for Weakened Immune Systems
Third dose gets green light for ages 12 and over
Savij Javid, UK health vamp says people with weak immune systems could catch Covid, “may have received less protection against the virus from 2 vaccine doses… this is not the start of the booster programme.” Vaccine saved 105k lives in UK and 24m infections — estimates based on computer model
Moneycircus: So those who already have a weak immune system should get three doses that also weaken their immune systems?

Low Antibodies Used to Justify Third Shot
Study ignores vaccines impact on natural immune response
OCTAVE trial is source of low-immunity strategy
But study ignored T-Cells — BBC, Science, Sarah Gilbert all praised natural immunity in spring 2020 — what changed?
Other studies show unvaccinated immune system fights coronavirus quickly, thus creates few antibodies.

UK Care Workers Resign as Vaccine Deadline Approaches
Shropshire Star: Hundreds of care workers yet to be jabbed as compulsory vaccine deadline looms.

‘Freelance’ Military Network and Stay-Behind Units Exposed
Sandhurst Sisterhood Airlifts Afghans after Deluge of WhatsApp Texts
2,500 female veterans run private network – got involved during evacuation.

Alice Bromage British Army major ret’d, says sisterhood “runs a security company in Kabul” that rescues Afghans. She instructed the military by phone from UK as they rescued people hiding in sewers.

“We are trained to deal with crisis response. Something needs doing, what can I do…One veteran, Jude, is running safe houses and secure trips to and from the airport… The chaos is just beginning.”

Brian Gerrish: is that more chaos because 2,500 freelance soldiers are helping to run military policy in Afghanistan? Bromage says her army role was “protecting vulnerable people.” So not defence? This lady seems to think she is some kind of international police force.

BBC Women’s Hour: Fails to ask obvious questions:

  • Bromage is retired yet is involved in a military operation.
  • What is the chain of command?
  • How was sisterhood able to communicate with, influence and steer active soldiers doing their job in theatre?
  • Who is vetting these evacuees? Who does the security checks?
  • How many people are listed for evacuation due to personal friendships with sisterhood members?
  • Are Sisterhood members using their military contacts to assist private security companies?

Mike Robinson: Who is in charge here — the army or the sisterhood? Who is the sisterhood and what authority do they have? Is the private security company a stay-behind operation?

PROPAGANDA WATCH
Daily Mail Smears Veterans, Freedom Marchers
Claims “operational cells” plan “violent insurrection” — gives no evidence.
Plays on the name of decade-long group Veterans For Freedom… using the number ‘4’ and attempts to undermine long-planned march
Daily Mail: Revealed: The secret army of 200 weapons-obsessed anti-vaxx ex-soldiers called ‘Veterans 4 Freedom’ plotting attacks on vaccine centres and chaos on Britain’s streets

“Over the past few weeks the group has quietly recruited and hopes to garner public support with a peaceful march on Parliament on September 8 during which the ex-servicemen will wear ‘headdress’.”

https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/uk-column-news-3rd-september-2021

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Sep 5, 2021 8:36 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

We need a Carrington Event

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
Sep 5, 2021 12:26 PM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

Why would You want all the NPP’s blow up? That would be the last nail in mankind’s coffin.
Don’t You worry though – a look at a seismic monitor will reveal that there is something much bigger in the making. “Tectonic plate” stuff and it is happening
while all these stories about deadly idiots in control are churned out to distract the many.

The psychopathic reset won’t work. A little imagination about the forces at play willhelp to understand that any future of man will look nothing like it conjures up right now. Man’s future is back to the roots for those who will survive the changes.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Sep 5, 2021 12:43 PM
Reply to  Nottheonly1

Sources please. Thanks. A2

dr death
dr death
Sep 5, 2021 2:28 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I’ve posted this here before and this theory is quite popular amongst a subset of the ‘covid’ scam aware, mainly those who claim secret knowledge or insight yadee ya…

a regular (around every 7000 years) catastrophe cause by crustal displacement and associated flooding.. the memory of which is arcanely stored in myth and astrology..

. . for the coming cataclysm, people are being vetted for worthiness by an ancient organization that will take ‘the best of us’ through the winnowing etc etc etc.. by testing our ability to survive (those that refuse the jabs and recommendations of the maggot media etc..)

this book written by an ex CIA spook and banned or at least partly censored by the alphabets…

‘the adam and eve story’.. available on archive.org..

don’t forget your cocoa when you curl up for a night time read..it may be your last one…

then again it might be a load of old bollocks.. people are very susceptible to this Q anon, scientology nonsense.. they like to feel ‘special’ mainly due to the fact that they are incredibly average (not a bad thing)..

Jill
Jill
Sep 5, 2021 10:09 PM
Reply to  dr death

These kinds of ideas have always interested me. Why would anyone assume that a race who kills a bunch of people is advanced, worth following etc. Who wants to be taken into their fold? They sound like Klaus to me– losers!

dr death
dr death
Sep 6, 2021 1:48 PM
Reply to  Jill

according to this theory ‘jill’, most will die anyway due to the catastrophe… after such events only 1% of life survives… so these ahem, benevolent ancient masters are making sure the best of the herd survives.. to be taken into their secret underground shelters… thus the fake plague.. (like most of these pseudo mythological cults consistency of narrative is conveniently lacking)..

what use a secret underground shelter will be after crustal displacement deposits them under a mile of sludge and mud, seems to have eluded them…

NB: crustal displacement is most certainly a reality and may well be on it’s way.. when ? who cares..

dr death
dr death
Sep 6, 2021 2:13 PM
Reply to  dr death

Oh and don’t forget the libraries of genetic data… and of course the giant seed banks of all earths flora secreted in bunkers at the north pole…

this part is verifiable..

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
Sep 5, 2021 3:00 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

A good day to you, too. And good luck.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 5, 2021 3:34 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

“Long-planned marches” are always going to give our opponents an equally long time to plan their disruption.
We need more things to happen which will take ‘the authorities’ by surprise,
otherwise it is they who will continue to shock and outrage us forever.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 5, 2021 5:28 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I love the bit where “Media Plays Down Lockdown Impact on Mental Health”…

Well, they would, wouldn’t they…?
The most lobotomized industry in the world shouldn’t even be asked what its opinion of mental health might be.

Shin
Shin
Sep 5, 2021 4:08 AM

Well it’s great to know at my age, i can spend an extra hour a day on the monkey bars.
As long as i wear my mask that is.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 5, 2021 3:36 PM
Reply to  Shin

Are you sure monkeys have to wear masks…?
🙂

Jubal Hershaw
Jubal Hershaw
Sep 5, 2021 3:46 AM

In the mid-seventies America faced a new and escalating crisis, with US commercial jets being hijacked for geopolitical purposes. Determined to gain the upper hand in this new form of aerial warfare, two American multinationals collaborated with Defense Advanced Projects Agency (DARPA) on a project designed to facilitate the remote recovery of hijacked American aircraft. Brilliant in both concept and operation, “Home Run” (not its real code name) allowed specialist ground controllers to listen in to cockpit conversations on the target aircraft, then take absolute control of its computerised flight control system by remote means.
From that point onwards, regardless of the wishes of the hijackers or the flight deck crew, the hijacked aircraft could be recovered and landed automatically at an airport of choice, with no more difficulty than flying a radio-controlled model plane. The engineers had no idea that almost thirty years after its initial design, Home Run’s top secret computer codes would be broken, and the system used to facilitate direct ground control of the four aircraft used in the high-profile attacks on New York and Washington on 11th September 2001.
(Remote Control Home Run. Nemesis magazine (now defunct). Nov-Dec 2001.

New Nane
New Nane
Sep 5, 2021 7:17 AM
Reply to  Jubal Hershaw

What four aircraft ?

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 5, 2021 8:34 AM
Reply to  New Nane

Don’t get sucked into the ‘no planes’ distraction, J. Ignore.

dr death
dr death
Sep 5, 2021 2:56 PM
Reply to  Jubal Hershaw

sounds suspiciously like a CIA/Mossad bolt on to run cover for the fact that a ‘system’ was available to prevent such an event occurring…

just like they use ‘simulations’ to cover the operations they are running.. 9/11..7/7.. Covid 2019 etc etc..

you are after all dealing with imbeciles( though a higher functioning one than the ‘common’ variety)..

Judith
Judith
Sep 5, 2021 3:22 AM

Is it me, or are there 4 comments missing?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 5, 2021 2:48 AM

Admin… are you going to post this video on Bitchute as well? I’ve repeatedly tried to watch both the Katharine Gun and Robin Monotti interviews here, and the videos won’t play. Keeps coming up ‘segment failed retry’, then tried to watch them on the Odysee site and the same thing happened. Also tried to watch in Telegram and no go there. Only found the Robin Monotti clip on Bitchute 10 mins ago, which I’ve just finished watching.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Sep 5, 2021 3:03 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Anyone having problems playing the video, find out how to delete your browser cache and cookies and this should solve the problem. Alternatively, download Opera or Brave browsers and try those. Please report back and I’ll upload alternative links tomorrow if necessary.

Many thanks. A2

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 5, 2021 3:08 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Thanks for the tips Sam👍

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 5, 2021 6:49 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Thanks Sam. I downloaded Opera, and video is now playing perfectly well. Cheers.

shamen
shamen
Sep 5, 2021 11:10 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

plays ok for me
p.s you edit and make the above clips sam..?

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Sep 5, 2021 3:50 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Use a VPN. No doubt they all honey traps but they work. Nordvpn is pretty good.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 5, 2021 3:50 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

33,782 Coronavirus Cases and 23,903 Active in NSW – COVID LIVE Hey Gezzah, 21% of people in ICU in NSW are now jabbed, they are the people on vents mainly. but still they screech jab, jab, jab

Joerg
Joerg
Sep 5, 2021 6:06 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

You can always go to an online-down loader, like https://www.tubeoffline.com/ .
There you go down and choose your source (e. g. “Bitchute”), Then you go up again and fill in die video-link.

Jubal Hershaw
Jubal Hershaw
Sep 5, 2021 2:24 AM

Prediction. The next ‘variant’ will be more virulent., ie, spreads faster, ‘vaccine’ resistant, spread by kids, or cats, or dogs, or goldfish, though my money is on ‘by kids’ (warn any surviving Grannies), causes blood clotting, resistant to ventilators.. Though most likely a combination of these..

There must be another ‘variant’ about to be discovered (ie ‘unleashed’), as the green stickers telling passengers on Sydney’s public buses where to sit (social distancing) have returned to the bus seats. (Coinciding with reports of alleged concerns by bus drivers about their “safety’ around ‘unvaxxed’ passengers.)

Prediction is based on the appearance of ‘covid’ signage appearing on the local buses days before previous ‘mysterious outbreak’ was announced.

citizen
citizen
Sep 5, 2021 2:50 AM
Reply to  Jubal Hershaw

“Coinciding with reports of alleged concerns by bus drivers about their “safety’ around ‘unvaxxed’ passengers”

I was on a bus the other day and the driver sneezed into his mask while wearing it and continued wearing it. But apparently un vaxxed are the problem.

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Sep 5, 2021 3:48 AM
Reply to  citizen

I watched a guy in a Doctors waiting room remove his mask to sneeze and then put it back on! Ha ha ha morons

citizen
citizen
Sep 5, 2021 4:48 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

yes the classic sneeze protection force field 😄

Claret
Claret
Sep 5, 2021 12:38 PM
Reply to  citizen

Maybe the expelled snot helps as an adhesive to keep the mask firmly in place on the face or acts as a kind of sealant which provides more protection.

strange
strange
Sep 5, 2021 6:30 AM
Reply to  Jubal Hershaw

it seems, all these variants are originating at the altar of some highly conservative apocalyptic church!

Spinzo
Spinzo
Sep 5, 2021 9:01 PM
Reply to  Jubal Hershaw

It will be “a beast” – Brett Sutton.
It will “spread at the speed of light” – Dan Andrews

Jax
Jax
Sep 5, 2021 1:23 AM

barak obama and osama bin laden are the same guy

srsly

look at pics

Arby
Arby
Sep 5, 2021 12:55 AM

Katherine kept looking around as though expecting the police to batter the door down and or someone to come through the window. The smart phone-looking video didn’t help with that appearance. Very strange.

There wasn’t much to bite on in this. I guess more is coming, so we’ll see.

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Sep 5, 2021 12:47 AM

And the endless lies and bullshit continue in Australia. I think I’m emigrating to Cuba or Afghanistan.

Jane in France
Jane in France
Sep 5, 2021 6:49 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

IN Cuba kids have to be vaccinated against covid before they go to school. Cuba doesn’t sound much fun either. Russia or Romania, maybe.

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
Sep 5, 2021 12:37 PM
Reply to  Jane in France

Not many places left to escape to. It’s a wholesome deception that has quasi every politician on board. Plus – never underestimate to be a “foreigner” to where You go. No matter how much money You have. Worse if You don’t have any. Then You will be unwanted competition for the “locals”.
No, people need to club their own politicians towards truth and responsibility.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 5, 2021 11:00 PM
Reply to  Jane in France

I’ve long admired Cuba’s resistance to US domination and subversion, but I wish Cuba’s leaders were equally resistant to pseudo-science. It’s very disappointing to see how easily they too have succumbed. The religion of hi-tech allopathic medicine is almost universal now, at least among governments.

But maybe the Cubans are craftier than we know. They have developed their own vaccine. Is it possible it’s a placebo, a saline solution or something similar? They might be placating the WHO and protecting their own people while keeping that notorious “international community” off their backs.

Cuba’s covid vaccine:

https://www.google.com/search?q=cuba%27s+covid+vaccine&oq=cuba%27s+covid+vaccine&aqs=chrome..69i57.8475j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 5, 2021 12:30 AM

“There are a lot of unanswered questions.”

Reminds me of an encounter in late August 2003.

On the way to the underground station I ran into a former colleague, an actress, American, very striking-looking, very “arty”, great clothes, wild long hair, a vehement “liberal”, someone I had known for years and got on quite well with. She greeted me with a big smile, a hug & a kiss and suggested we go for a quick coffee at the little bistro we’d just met outside. So we went in, sat down at one of the half-dozen tiny tables and ordered coffee.

We chatted about our kids etc, and then she asked what I was up to work-wise, expecting to hear about a play or something. So I handed her a flyer and told her I was co-organising a conference to mark the second anniversary of 9/11, entitled “Unanswered Questions”. Her brow knitted and she asked me what I meant. “Well”, I said, “it’s hard to know where to start. For instance, did you know that all S.O.P. (standard operating procedures) were ignored by USAF on that day? It appears they did nothing to intercept those planes. I mean, how did they manage to hit The Pentagon an hour after the WTC? Then there was all that suspicious insider trading. Did you know that United Airlines st-…”

She interrupted me. “Wait a minute, WAIT a minute, what are you saying?” I said, “Well, maybe you should dome to this symposium. There’ll be speakers from four countries there, very reputable people. It looks as though the Bush-Cheney gang may well have had reason to…” And then — I’ll never forget this — she put her hands over her ears and SCREAMED, literally. It was brief but loud. All conversation stopped. Everyone in the cafe looked round, open-mouthed. The girl at the counter glared at me as if I had just goosed this woman under the table. It was fucking embarrassing. And then she started gathering up her stuff and saying, “No, I’m sorry, I can’t, I just can’t, I can’t listen to this, I won’t hear it, I JUST CAN’T LISTEN TO THIS.”

The whole encounter lasted about three minutes. She may have paid for her own coffee before stalking off, I don’t remember.

I’m now kind of grateful to her for making the mechanism of self-repression so dramatically clear.

martin
martin
Sep 5, 2021 5:33 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

It’s almost like these people know the truth and can’t stand to hear it. But actually what they know and can’t stand is the Conspiracy Theory. Perhaps this is the reason why CTs are widely spread but always with some touch of falsehood. All you need is a knowledge of Newton’s Laws and the impact video, or even a still, but it always comes with a serving of nonsense like ‘rockets don’t work in a vacuum’, pi = 4 or ‘nobody died’. You even get, ‘yes, they went to the moon’ to fox the unbelievers. When I sent a link to the impact video to my sister she came across ‘nobody died’ and said my friend’s brother was killed and it disturbed her whole life after that.

For years she would cut me off on the subject but when covid came along her group were unbelievers so the door was opened. I think what makes educated believers uncomfortable is not so much the event but the social implications. It means the upper class are complicit, dishonest, deluded, irresponsible, amoral etc. All the things they pride themselves on.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Sep 5, 2021 9:30 PM
Reply to  martin

Well, there are false flags massacres which were staged with crisis actors in which nobody died and there are false flag massacres where thousands died. Two examples of the former from the USA experience are the Sandy Hook elementary school fake massacre and the Boston Marathon fake massacre. Three examples of the latter are the JFK hit, 9/11 of course, and the Las Vegas massacre. The last example was even more confusing because it was intentionally a hybrid event with some crisis actors, but there is no doubt that several score of innocents were murdered by gunfire in it.

Are you saying that even for staged events in which innocents were purportedly killed and maimed by the score but was all staged for its media impact, we should stifle ourselves not to call out the truth for fear of being labelled a CT? As to your example above, and perhaps you should have mentioned the precise event, either you were remiss in doing your due diligence research in sending your sister a fraudulent video, or your sister’s friend lied to her.

martin
martin
Sep 6, 2021 2:57 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

I agree, fake people and fake deaths form the pageant, but probably some real casualties are also needed. It’s an amplifier.

I stifle myself all the time, constantly, I need friends and family. They know where I sit but it’s like ‘no politics or religion’ in pubs as was.

Willem
Willem
Sep 5, 2021 7:48 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

All right, devil’s advocate.

You just told her that the whole world she believed in is total nonsense. If that comes in, suddenly, unexpectedly, I can imagine that your words felt like an assault to her.

Listening to what you said, was not only like saying that her whole world was fake, but that she is fake as well.

That is where cognitive dissonance starts and for that reason I perfectly understand her reaction.

Heck, it has taken me a few years to disentangle all the nonsense I have been spoon fed with, and I am still unlearning. If all of that unlearning would have come to me in an instant, I might have screamed as well.

Did you ever try to talk with her again?
How do you feel about this encounter? You think you acted correctly?

The devil’s advocate would say: you were impolite.

But that is only based on what you are telling here. Would be very interesting to hear her side of the story before making conclusions, but I guess we will never know.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 5, 2021 12:06 PM
Reply to  Willem

I don’t want her side of any story… Drama queen in action… Sorry no more patience, and running out of politeness in emergency situations

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 5, 2021 4:30 PM
Reply to  Willem

I appreciate your understanding comment, Willem, and I am rather surprised to see some very intolerant reactions to it – especially here.

To take my own situation as an example: When your own wife of many years falls for enough of the nonsense to get jabbed twice, that doesn’t mean you throw her out of the window like some old books you no longer read.
You have to understand – for your own sake too – what it was that led your long-trusted and solid companion to change her mind about this particular issue, and why it is suddenly so easy for her to see your attacks on her views to be personal attacks.

You also have to deal with the fact that the majority of the world thinks like that.
It’s rather like the now-old-fashioned view that God doesn’t exist.
When Nietzsche pronounced in a book, “God is Dead”, it was a shocking event for its time.
Yet, today, people are no longer shocked by it.

In our own time, to grasp that our government is not only incompetent, greedy and utterly corrupt – that it is not only insidiously tied to the criminal clandestine machinations of every other comparable government in the world, but also that it currently wishes to harm us, is understandably just too much for most people to take in.

Nobody on earth was ever brought up or educated to allow for that possibility, except perhaps in the most dire personal circumstances involving neglect and deprivation.

And so denial sets in instead of the reality.

What depresses me most is the thought that in the future nobody will be shocked by what is going on now.
There is also the sad thought that when the time comes, except for the spiritually enlightened, denial is a recognized stage of the process of dying, followed by the equally recognized stage of resignation…

I suggest people take immediate steps to learn something of genuine spiritual teachings, if all that otherwise awaits us in the looming future is ‘resignation to the covid fantasy’…

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 5, 2021 8:40 PM
Reply to  Willem

She was not an infant, she was an adult in her forties. I was not breaking the news that the tooth fairy doesn’t exist; I was answering her question — “What are you working at these days?” — honestly, calmly and politely.

Of course I did not “assault” (!) her, verbally or in any other way. I was perfectly friendly, quiet and respectful throughout, and I gave her an invitation to a conference. Naturally it’s up to her whether or not she attends that event, but an invitation is not an assault. (The flyer flew to the floor when she flounced out in a tizzy.)

If an adult experiences it as an “assault” when it’s politely suggested that her government might possibly be lying to her, then that adult needs to grow up. (I did not say that to her, but that is what I thought and still think. So sue me.)

Did you ever try to talk with her again?”

Yep, ran into her countless times over the years, at parties and premieres and things. We chattered briefly & inconsequentiially about mutual friends and plays and movies and stuff. Never again did I mention to her the unmentionable elephant in the room. There would have been no point. Had she raised the topic herself, I would have been happy to give her a polite and honest reply (again). She didn’t. It’s probably just as well, because I don’t like being screamed at.

“You think you acted correctly?

Yes, of course. I treated her as a friend and as an adult.

“The devil’s advocate would say: you were impolite.”

Then the devil’s advocate would be talking through his arse.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Sep 5, 2021 9:56 PM
Reply to  Willem

Yes a devil’s advocate. The phrase itself is nonsense indicative of the Roman Church. It involves, for those who do not know, the question of a person being promoted to sainthood, and the “devil’s advocate” is appointed to show that that “elevation” is unwarranted. But what if the candidate was truly a real scumbag, say a religious Tony Fauci or Bill Gates for example? Then wouldn’t our Prince of Lies advocate wish the candidate to be successful in reaching official sainthood?

As to being “impolite” by honestly responding to her direct question without going into any sort of diatribe, who was grossly impolite in this encounter? The woman was obviously an acquaintance and not a close relative or close friend. Is there a purpose for wasting one’s time with a fanatic Cult Covidian type when our best path to staving off the dystopian future is dealing with people with at least a glimmer of being open minded and capable of critical thought?

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 6, 2021 5:53 AM
Reply to  Willem

She was not an infant, she was an adult in her forties. I was not breaking the news that the tooth fairy doesn’t exist; I was answering her question — “What are you working at these days?” — honestly, calmly and politely.

Of course I did not “assault” (!) her, verbally or in any other way. I was perfectly friendly, quiet and respectful throughout, and I gave her an invitation to a conference. Naturally it’s up to her whether or not she attends that event, but an invitation is not an assault. (The flyer flew to the floor when she flounced out in a tizzy.)

If an adult experiences it as an “assault” when it’s politely suggested that her government might possibly be lying to her, then that adult needs to grow up. (I did not say that to her, but that is what I thought and still think. So sue me.)

Did you ever try to talk with her again?”

Yep, ran into her countless times over the years, at parties and premieres and things. We chattered briefly & inconsequentiially about family and friends and plays and movies and stuff. Never again did I mention to her the unmentionable elephant in the room. There would have been no point. Had she raised the topic herself, I would have been happy to give her a polite and honest reply (again). She didn’t.

“You think you acted correctly?

Yes, of course. I treated her as a friend and as an adult.

“The devil’s advocate would say: you were impolite.”

Then the devil’s advocate would be talking through his @rse.

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
Sep 5, 2021 12:43 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Yes, she was and maybe still is a sorry person.
I stopped talking to friends about the obvious,
when they loudly proclaimed:

I don’t want hear about it!

None of them remained a “friend”.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Sep 5, 2021 12:21 AM

I’m a lockdown sceptic. I think “covid” sceptic may be a bit too open to misinterpretation. I’ve always believed the threat to be grossly exaggerated. And I will not take a Covid vaccine.

However, I am also a “911 truth” sceptic. So, I’m not with probably most people who come on here over this.

What I find objectionable is the sort of nasty cynicism, frankly misanthropy, that underlies this and other narratives. This belief that 9/11 and covid (and a whole host of other things) are the creations of some “mystical” evil elite that is somehow immortal.

I’m sorry, I just don’t buy into this narrative. And that is what it is – a narrative.

“But it’s true!” you scream. No, it isn’t – it’s a narrative.

I’m not saying it’s false either – I’m not making any judgment about it. All you can really say is that it’s a narrative.

It’s a story about the truth, not the truth itself.

Now, I know you may think you’re special. Well, that’s the way believers in any religion think. They think their set of beliefs about the world set them apart. Make them superior in some way.

It’s a delusion.

Now, I don’t actually know what happened on 11th September 2001. I was at work at the time in England and one of my colleagues came and told me that the World Trade Center had been attacked. Like everyone else at the time I was deeply shocked.

How could two aeroplanes bring down the twin towers? I doubt even the terrorists themselves thought for a moment that they would succeed in doing that. I don’t think anyone could have foreseen that eventuality.

Controlled explosion. No. That is just absurd and deeply cynical. And what would be the point? There is none.

And then there’s the one they flew into the Pentagon. Phew, well truthers, how do you explain that one? (No, no, don’t please! Spare me!)

It’s weird, because I know that many here have fought the prevailing Covid narrative as I have and have not succeeded in converting many. And now I feel that I am here trying to do the same with the “911 truthers”. I don’t suppose I’ll have much more success here either!

Anyway, enough. I’m knackered. Goodnight.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 5, 2021 3:41 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

Either you accept the laws of physics literally stopped applying on 9/11 in lower Manhattan or you accept the official story is impossible.

That’s the choice.

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Sep 5, 2021 3:56 AM

The writing was on the wall. If the “people” could accept the 9/11 narrative my God you could tell them anything and they would believe it including this covid nonsense.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 5, 2021 11:46 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

My first reaction when I realised it wasn’t another shitty Graham Greene movie, was CIA

martin
martin
Sep 6, 2021 3:24 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

It probably also prepared the way at the top end, shaking out anyone with moral purpose across the board, repeated for every show that followed. It became normal so that this was the world as it is, for them at least.

Dors
Dors
Sep 5, 2021 11:57 AM

The official story is impossible because it’s nonsense : it’s self-contradictory in a number of ways. (1)

For physical laws applying or not applying, there are all kinds of natural phenomena that look convincingly like conflicting with the laws of physics. (2)

And those “laws of physics” are just our crude conceptions of how the world works. (3)

Lastly, there are perfectly able critical minds of physicists to whom the event in question looks like a gravitational collapse. (4)

(1) James Corbett’s coverage
(2) of such one I just read in “Hidden Nature – The Startling Insights of Viktor Schauberger”
(3) Not only it provides the basis for the so-called crisis of modern physics, but people like Rupert Sheldrake have been explaining how the very conception of ‘natural law’ is flawed
(4) my friends, Denis Rancourt, and likely many others

So, to get back to the beginning : Since the official story is patent nonsense, why do you try to make the criticism of the establishment hinge on some subtle understanding of how nature functions.

That reminds me of the modern “leftists” who go completely off the rails because of topics like climate mechanisms and viruses : topics filled with a Pandora’s box of bullshit and other complications.

Why leave the drama of human relations, political relations, in pursuit of the idea that the human individual can master nature intellectually, …. if the said human is filled with enough moral purity, apparently 🙂

That is suggestive that, while “the left” is dead, its ailments live on.

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Sep 5, 2021 3:53 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

Sceptic!! If you sceptical about covid and 9/11 …. forget it. I give up. It’s all horseshit and has been for a very long time. This is the Kali Yuga.

October
October
Sep 5, 2021 3:14 PM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

When I first heard of the Kali Yuga, I had trouble understanding what they meant by an age of untruth. It’s becoming clearer now. 🙂

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 5, 2021 7:05 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

Now, I know you may think you’re special. Well, that’s the way believers in any religion think. They think their set of beliefs about the world set them apart. Make them superior in some way.

You do realise this goes for your pompusly written, under researched position, too right?

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 5, 2021 8:41 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

No immortal evil ‘elite’, John. Just the worst depths of standard human psychology. Available everywhere, with the right motivations. Happens continuously in many places. Gangster-capitalism, for example.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 5, 2021 8:44 AM

BTW, John: How’s your knowledge of standard physics? Lacking, apparently. As Admin. Sophie points out, for the official bollocks about 11/9 to be true, basic physics had to be suspended on that day. Catch up, do. Get the necessary education to understand what you’re talking about, before bloviating at length here.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Sep 5, 2021 11:11 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

“Controlled explosion. No. That is just absurd and deeply cynical. And what would be the point? There is none.”

Mr Gullible I presume?

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 5, 2021 12:12 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Nasty cynicism comes after you got fucked and couldn’t retaliate… it’s a protection mecanism… there are others. Mistical or not, they want to kill you with a vaccine, how do you feel about that?… under reacting is just as insane as over reacting you know… I wanna say “more”..

ZigZagWanderer
ZigZagWanderer
Sep 5, 2021 2:19 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

The 9/11 Anthrax was manufactured at US BioWeapons establishment Fort Detrick Maryland. No narrative ….. just an old fashioned investigation by the FBI.

Michael Reno
Michael Reno
Sep 10, 2021 12:50 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Wow. I’m surprised you got 63 dislikes for pointing out that an alternative narrative is still but a narrative and not truth. I agree with you there. However if you have a closer look at some of the footage and arguments coming from those who you are calling ‘cynics’ you might be surprised at how blatantly obvious that the ‘WTC attacks’ could not have happened in the way the official story proclaims. It is only logical to then ask why, in whose interest is it to cover up the mountain of contradictory evidence and insist on a fixed and implausible official narrative. I don’t agree that asking these sorts of questions and trying to make sense of it all is cynical.

Kika
Kika
Sep 4, 2021 11:03 PM

W.H.O. has “ears” – spying over internet for any mention of covid 19.

EARS stands for Early AI-supported Response with Social Listening. In short, it’s an artificial intelligence that combs the internet for any mention of COVID-19, analyzes discussions, and collects data on such for researchers to use. It’s everything Edward Snowden warned us about and more.

https://www.theorganicprepper.com/the-who-world-health-organization-has-ears/

John Pretty
John Pretty
Sep 4, 2021 11:50 PM
Reply to  Kika

I don’t care.

Michael
Michael
Sep 5, 2021 6:40 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

o

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 5, 2021 10:50 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

And who do you think gives a shit whether you care or not?

Arby
Arby
Sep 5, 2021 12:57 AM
Reply to  Kika

Very interesting.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 5, 2021 3:43 AM
Reply to  Kika

Sounds like Panopticon Porn. Convince people they are continuously monitored and they self-censor so you don’t need to actually monitor them.

Willem
Willem
Sep 5, 2021 8:00 AM

True, and for that I reason I don’t care either.

AI is mostly nonsense anyway. Life is not a game of chess, but that is about the only thing AI excels in.

Example: AI cannot even tell me with this automatic word correct if I spelled ‘excels’ right or wrong as I, apparently, hardly use the word

It loves to spell convid as Covid or COVID-19 though. How come?

Paul_too
Paul_too
Sep 5, 2021 10:03 AM
Reply to  Willem

Duckduckgo’s AI actually misspells words for you and creates ‘Office 365’ from ‘offg’. Curious that. I wonder who is paying them?

shamen
shamen
Sep 5, 2021 11:13 AM

bingo well said

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Sep 4, 2021 9:59 PM

To make sense of 9/11 American version , refrain from calling the object of the Saudi attack ,”The World Trade Center” and refer to it as the “bankster towers” where a lot of the worlds dirtiest business was conducted.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 4, 2021 11:27 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

The Saudi attack? You are really trying to tell us that two airliners knocked down 3 steel frame hi rises, causing WTC7 to come down in 5-6 seconds, at time achieving free fall acceleration rate, and WTC 1 and 2 to come down at a rate only a bit slower than gravitational free fall, 2 being hit second and less directly but coming down first, after 56 minutes, and 1 coming down after 102 minutes? And in the process causing horizontal ejections of large structural members, leaving behind large amounts of molten iron and steel, … in general showing about 10 characteristics of demolition and none of the equal number of characteristics associated with fires? So which famous bridge are you selling?

John Pretty
John Pretty
Sep 4, 2021 11:52 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

No, not you Jeffrey. Jim is referencing the sane.

Judith
Judith
Sep 5, 2021 12:53 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

I would consider myself sane in most instances.

I agree with Jeffrey. Whatever it was, and it sure wasn’t two planes and some jet fuel, I would never refer to it as the Saudi Attack. There may have been Saudi’s involved in the planning and execution. Along with many other nationalities.

NickM
NickM
Sep 5, 2021 6:14 AM
Reply to  Judith

Not so many; I saw only the usual suspects: U$, Israeli, dual U$/Israeli citizenship, and UK. The most prominent Saudi figures were “Bush” Bandar, head of Saudi Secret Service, and the Bin Laden family, guests at the Bush ranch.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 5, 2021 8:54 AM
Reply to  Judith

The whole ridiculously overblown fuss about ‘Saudi involvement’ is a distraction based on the fact that there were a few people in the al Saud power structure who cooperated with the real plotters to get the designated patsies into the US with the right papers, so that they could be set up to take the rap.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 5, 2021 10:44 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

I recall you saying in a comment to a previous article that you had no opinion about 9/11 because you weren’t there. Well you’ve just revealed that you do, in fact, have an opinion.

kevin king
kevin king
Sep 5, 2021 12:16 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Read ‘Where did the Towers go?’. It would have been impossible to set up a controlled demolition. They have some very sophisticated weaponry neither you nor I know about.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 5, 2021 1:04 AM
Reply to  kevin king

I was in regular contact with Judy Wood back in 2006-7. When i pointed out to her the ample amounts of structural steel piled up at the WTC site after 9/11, she insisted these photos were all faked (as she contended all the steel was turned to dust). Same with all the evidence of molten metals. Not at all impossible to set up a controlled demolition, with Turner Construction, HQ inside the towers, doing a contract on retrofit of the structures, headed by a close Dubya friend, with the security company having Marvin Bush and cousin Wirt Walker on the board of directors, and numerous other contacts inside the towers. Kevin Ryan did a four part series on demolition access to the towers.
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0907/S00124/kevin-r-ryan-demolition-access-to-the-wtc-towers.htm

Judith
Judith
Sep 5, 2021 2:04 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Joseph Farrell has an interesting theory that perhaps there was a combination of weaponry used to bring the towers down.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 5, 2021 6:12 AM
Reply to  Judith

I’d say that’s most likely. I have a notion of a certain weapon used, but it’s totally speculative, i don’t know if it existed then or exists now. I do think that nanothermite and high explosives cannot explain all observable phenomena related to the destruction of the WTC, but do not believe ray weapons are a necessary part of the explanation.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 5, 2021 6:47 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Can you say what you think the certain weapon might have been or what phenomena can’t be explained by CD/thermite?

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 5, 2021 9:02 AM

Nanothermite covers it all. A well-understood technology amongst the US military establishment at that time, with several facilities actually adept at making it. Lot’s of it found unexploded in the WTC dust, of course.

Nottheonly1
Nottheonly1
Sep 5, 2021 1:52 PM

I can help You out – via science.
Go to the IRIS or USGS seismic monitor network.
Zoom in on Manhattan. In the “Settings”, select
“Show Sensors” – All seismic monitors in the area
will be displayed. Select those monitors closest
to Manhattan. Go to the station of that monitor.
It contains all the data from the day it went online.
(If that data was not scrubbed – but the scrubbing
of many stations would be necessary and is improbable.)
Search for the date in question.

Look at the seismic registrations of two large events
on that day. You will find the events at the time the
buildings were desintegrated into molecular structures.

How deep us Your understanding of “Seismicity”? If
necessary, find the explanation about the magnitude
of any event and how magnitude is used to figure out
how much energy was released.

Both “earthquakes” in Manhattan had a much higher
magnitude than the collapse of these buildings would
have created. Both earthquakes are BEFORE the
desintegration of the buildings. Both earthquakes were
greater than Magnitude 2.4.
Compare that with large quarry “explosions” that all
happen around zero depth.

To conclude, DARPA et al are constantly devising new,
more deadly weapons. When they give You a
demonstration of these weapons – they are already
manufactured.
Do You remember the typically US military lingo about
their biggest “non-nuclear” explosion device? They called
it the “Mother Of All Bombs” – or in Rumsfeld speak, a
“Bunker Buster”. What happens when the bunker buster
arrives at the target, a deep cave?

What would happen if these devices would be placed
underneith the buildings? Long scrubbed are the parts
of the original blueprints for the tallest buildings of their
time. All other NY buildings were conforming with building
requirements – for buildings up to 102 stories.

The Port Authority required a way to safely demolish
high risers above 102 stories – the WTC was the first
such building, the blueprints start in the mid sixties.
By the mid sixties, there was a shortlived period in
which a novel way called “Peaceful Nuclear Explosives”
was given much attention. There were about a dozen
of these “peaceful explosions” with great power – but
an unwanted side effect, as You can easily guess. I had
copies of the original blueprints downloaded from the
internet prior to the demolition after I had watched a
documentary about the fantastic fashion in which these
“indestructable buildings” (by means of regular catastrophes
like air planes hitting the buildings, or large fire infernos – for which huge anounts of asbestos were used.)

The blueprints contained chambers below the towers, in
which explosives would be installed prior to a demolition.
These were especially designed chambers that would
direct the energy upward into the core of the building and
with aiding cutting charges above, create a safe, controlled
demolition that would not leave its calculated perimeter.

Something like what happened that day. With a few
differences, though. In 2001, the US military and some
of its allies/vassals possessed much more sophisticated
bombs and missiles than in the mid-sixties. The chambers
were there – ready to be used anytime after the buildings
opened to its residents and public.

Oh, and yes, Bunkerbuster is actually not a “non-nuclear”
device. It is not what goes for an “Atombomb”, but its function
requires depleted uranium – without it, the shit would not
penetrate properly. The fear of every military person…

This is what I can tell You here. But I urge You to explore the
unrelated science to the most infamous crime in human history.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 5, 2021 10:20 PM
Reply to  Nottheonly1

The seismic impulses were 2.1 and 2.2. They were discussed here by a prominent French seismic expert. .André Rousseau, “Were Explosives the Source of the Seismic Signals Emitted from New York on September 11, 2001?” Journal of 9/11 Studies, vol. 34, November 2012. This peer-reviewed published article has not been challenged in the scientific literature.
http://journalof911studies.com/resources/RousseauVol34November2012.pdf

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 5, 2021 10:14 PM

Jim Hoffman at 911Research authored an article about the expansion of the dust clouds created by the destruction of the two main towers, and the amount of energy necessary for that expansion could not be explained by any conventional weaponry or nano-thermite. IMO.
I think an experimental nano-chemical was used, a binary substance, meaning it requires two chemicals to be active, and the two are kept apart till the action is needed. Both of them fluids or powders. One is added to the fluid circulating through the air conditioning system. The other is placed in packets spread all over the structural frame next to the air conditioning fluid. Upon plane impacts, the packets are opened via a signal, either some sonic device or microwave or……..and the second ingredient is mixed with the first, creating a nano-chemical which is super-corrosive, etching and eating up the steel frame in many spots, and then after the structures are cooked by microwaves or sound waves (Hoffman said it almost looked like the towers were being baked in an oven) the corrosive fluid which has penetrated the steel expands and causes massive energy expansion, combining with explosives and nano-thermite to create the destruction. There were strange fumes coming off the site for weeks and weeks. There is no record of such a hyper-corrosive ever existing, so this is speculative. Hoffman thought a thermobaric weapon may have been used, which would also explain the massive amounts of energy.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Sep 8, 2021 3:11 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Thank you for a rational, thoughtfully presented non-binary theory that isn’t asserted with hysterical certainty. I wish we could have more such thinking on this subject!

How does this idea jive with findings of the red-gray chips?

Arby
Arby
Sep 5, 2021 1:08 AM
Reply to  kevin king

And they ‘only’ used it on the WTC? That’s a lot of wasted dollars for the research then, not that they care when those dollars come from us.

Michael
Michael
Sep 5, 2021 6:50 AM
Reply to  kevin king

I think you’re right but it’s a little too far down the rabbit hole for people who’ve only just started to wrap their heads round the covid narrative .

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 5, 2021 9:35 AM
Reply to  Michael

If Kevin is right, show us the technology. More to the point, explain the physics of these exotic ‘weapons’. Good luck!

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 5, 2021 8:58 AM
Reply to  kevin king

Not only was it entirely possible to rig the buildings for CD, but the evidence for it being done is conclusive. No need to pay any heed to the ‘unknown energy weapons’ tosh: a distraction which was only floated by the rear-guard actors protecting the real USAmerican and zionistani perpetrators, to muddy the waters.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 5, 2021 8:51 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

There you are John and Jim: the basic physics which you poor self-deluders clearly lack. And Jeffrey’s sample is just that: a sample of the larger body of basic physics which makes a complete nonsense of the official 11/9 bollocks. Do catch up on basic reality before bloviating!

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 5, 2021 10:11 AM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

About 50% of the material making up each Tower turned into fine dust (less than 100 microns across) and some twisted steel beams in seconds, with hardly any noise. The underground lake of steel remained molten for months. A government department detected radioactivity and various isotopes. Tens of thousands suffered from cancer. Is that “demolition” or “controlled demolition” for you?