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WATCH: COVID19/11 – Catherine Austin Fitts Episode Seven of Narratives Intertwined

COVID19/11: Narratives Intertwined is OffG’s new series of short interviews with prominent voices in the alternate media, vocal Covid sceptics and leading figures in the 9/11 truth movement.
The series is intended to both mark the 20th anniversary of the World Trade Center collapse, and discuss how that event helped shape the modern world and, in turn, set the stage for the Covid “pandemic”.

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Episode Seven of Narratives Intertwined features Catherine Austin Fitts, investment banker and former Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Housing in the first Bush administration.

Catherine has written extensively on the misappropriation of public funds, and potential massive corruption funnelling taxpayer money into private hands. In 2017 she was a co-author of a report which found that, since the year 2000, the US Department of Defense had over 21 TRILLION dollars in unauthorised spending.

In her interview she discusses witnessing warning signs pre-9/11, how the attacks distracted from – and destroyed evidence of – the Pentagon “losing” almost 4 trillion dollars, and just what the powers that be could do with all that stolen money.

You can read more of Catherine’s work through her publication The Solari Report, and you can read her 2017 report on the missing trillions here

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Diogenes still looking
Diogenes still looking
Sep 17, 2021 8:51 PM

CAF’s analysis goes deep but maybe not deep enough. A “follow the money” analysis can never reach the core of the evil… it is never that simple!

Charlie
Charlie
Sep 16, 2021 10:01 PM

I’m trying hard to imagine a world in which Catherine Austin Fitts becomes the first woman president of the USA, care to join me anyone? Just imagine the fat juicy audit she’d do on the pentagon! Oh joy!

Ort
Ort
Sep 17, 2021 9:20 PM
Reply to  Charlie

Agreed, but you’d better imagine her serving out her entire term(s) in a secure, heavily fortified bunker.

And this fantasy presumes that the political class, aka Elected Misrepresentatives, are either magically constrained or replaced– at least enough of them to forestall a swift impeachment.

Hele
Hele
Sep 16, 2021 7:58 AM

After posting a hell of a lot of information on fB and sending vids or interviews to friends for over a year and a half.I don’t think I have reached one person.
keep thinking this doctor or scientist or essay or article will be the one that might spark curiosity.
Honestly -as an optimists or masochist- I think there is no point. A friend said “I give them information if they ask.”.
Not sure how to break the habit of believing I can alert people to the situation.
All that has happened is I’ve been blocked or unfriended or visa versa.

Edith
Edith
Sep 16, 2021 8:38 AM
Reply to  Hele

There won’t be much reaching them until next year when the delusion, illusion wears off…I met one of them today…I have been practising avoidance…..I don’t even bother trying to say much anymore…. just throw in a comment and watch them do their totally convinced they are about to die of the rampant covid…

there has never been a case here but they don’t want miss on the melodrama of it all…think she still wears a mask if she leaves the house….just in case….bizarre….there isn’t any helping them and the hardest hard is keeping ones own sanity when dealing with them…

NickM
NickM
Sep 16, 2021 9:06 AM
Reply to  Edith

“the hardest hard is keeping ones own sanity when dealing with them…”

Agreed. Thank goodness for Truther sites like OffG.

Also this Beeb interview from long ago, with a Berber Arab in French Algeria, has been an inspiration to me:

BBC Interviewer, pityingly: “What a Conflict of Loyalties!”.

His quiet reply: “I know who I am”.

Azy
Azy
Sep 16, 2021 10:06 AM
Reply to  Edith

“the hardest hard is keeping ones own sanity when dealing with them…”

100%
I tried convincing some people, one person avoided me like the plague when I tried to convince not to take vaccine one afternoon, another said they haven’t taken it until I ask why make that face when answering then they confess to being double jabbed.

On the bright side, another person stopped and only stuck to a single jab and said no more jabs but they think that single jab helped them somehow.

I now try to make a conscious effort not to talk about vaccines at one of my workplaces as too many brainwashed people..but sometimes I just can’t help it. They need a reality slap every now and then.

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Sep 16, 2021 10:50 AM
Reply to  Azy

In my opinion, we shouldn’t overdo it. Don’t harp on forever about the same things and move on to other topics that you can agree on. I just try to raise the odd point now and again, preferably in a jocular manner, that challenges the mainstream narrative and make sure people know that I dissent from it without going to extremes.

Azy
Azy
Sep 16, 2021 7:03 PM
Reply to  Tim Drayton

Aye, my Mrs warned me to stop. I started getting along again to the one who avoided me by talking about general things we have both going on (building work) but there is an underlying tone I sense at end of our convos due to our previous convos.

This also happened to me during Afghan and Iraq wars and 7/7 where my blood pressure went through the roof when I’d catch articles in metro on way to work and I’d have to brace myself about latest ‘terror’ attacks in the West knowing deep in my heart the govt were straight up liars and having to defend my position. Had to leave many jobs to find my own self and maintain my sanity.

You’d thing I’d have learnt by now and mostly have but there are moments where I feel ‘enough is enough’.

Steve Jones
Steve Jones
Sep 16, 2021 4:37 PM
Reply to  Azy

Neither of you noticed “the hardest HARD” when you quoted Edith… LOL. How can you quote something and not even have read it properly?

Edith
Edith
Sep 17, 2021 10:16 AM
Reply to  Steve Jones

Yes I looked at what I wrote and grimaced as it was supposed to be hardest thing…but never mind it seems others got what I was trying to say….thanks….smile

Howard
Howard
Sep 16, 2021 3:53 PM
Reply to  Hele

Realistically, all you’re doing by giving advice – even life saving advice – to the covidian cultists is targeting yourself for when the crackdown begins in earnest. And make no mistake: it will begin eventually.

This thing is NOT going away. Those who think masses of people are finally beginning to see the light are simply deluding themselves.

The one and only realistic goal is trying to get (i.e., sneak) through this nightmare as unscathed as possible.

Literally, “mum” is the word. And hope (as in Obama’s hopey-changey) that being nice to people will make them want to protect you rather than turn you in as an enemy.

It’s going to come to that; count on it.

Edith
Edith
Sep 17, 2021 10:20 AM
Reply to  Howard

Well the old story is they come for everyone in the end,,,and if this ends up being about a huge financial coup as Catherine is suggesting, and I tend to agree, they will come for everyone…..agenda 30 doesn’t say anyone will get off any lighter for being needled….this is perhaps just a training session about compliance…the way the general population is carrying on, they will be quite pleased by now….looks like a push over job coming up…being needled or not may end up being the least of our worries..

Jenna
Jenna
Sep 20, 2021 4:38 AM
Reply to  Howard

You’re right; on that note I asked a double injected friend “when they start giving away $20 coupons for Save-on Foods to turn in your unvaxxed friends, will you report me?”.

victoria
victoria
Sep 15, 2021 9:23 PM

what a coincidence … rummy announced $2.3 trillion missing from the pentagon the day before 9/11/2001 … 9+11=20+3(2001)=23 ~ reduces to 5 ~ pentagram, & baphomet.

Dr Rogue
Dr Rogue
Sep 16, 2021 12:37 AM
Reply to  victoria

Numerology is not worth your attention. most things reduce to 5 or 6, or 7 , or 13 , or 33, or 666 etc. It’s just card tricks.

victoria
victoria
Sep 16, 2021 12:13 PM
Reply to  Dr Rogue

know thy enemy … in their architecting of terror events, tptb see numerology as essential to success. wouldnt surprise me in the least if there was no actual $2.3 trillion missing from budget, the number quite suitably matching both date & pentagon as five, with their dark agenda.

Numbers are a key to the ancient views of cosmogony—in its broad sense, spiritually as well as physically considered and to the evolution of the present human race; all systems of religious mysticism are based upon numerals. The sacredness of numbers begins with the Great First Cause, the One, and ends only with the naught or zero symbol of the infinite and boundless universe.” “Isis Unveiled,” vol. ii. 407. 
NUMBERS — THEIR OCCULT POWER AND MYSTIC VIRTUES

victoria
victoria
Sep 16, 2021 12:29 PM
Reply to  Dr Rogue

know thy enemy … in their architecting of terror events, tptb see numerology as essential to success. wouldnt surprise me in the least if there was no actual $2.3 trillion missing from budget, the number quite suitably matching both date & pentagon being five, with their dark agenda.

Howard
Howard
Sep 16, 2021 3:57 PM
Reply to  Dr Rogue

You overlook something crucial. In the modern world, NOTHING is given greater weight than Mathematics.

Regardless the nature and value of numerology, it is vaguely connected to Mathematics. In a perverse sort of way, Math can almost be said to be the illegitimate offspring of numerology – just as Science can be said to be the offspring of Alchemy.

They just changed their crystal ball for a sheepskin.

shamen
shamen
Sep 16, 2021 4:48 PM
Reply to  Dr Rogue

the ultimate nature of reality is number. Pythagoras

duke
duke
Sep 15, 2021 5:48 PM

brilliant courageous woman. we appreciate all you’re doing, Catherine.❤️🙏

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 15, 2021 3:05 PM

Got a real problem that some may also be experiencing.

My wife is 70 and is being pressured by her children to get jabbed.

Until now we have both been ‘wait a bit’ to see how the experiment goes.

She is now being emotionally blackmailed by he children with lurid stories of friends of theirs who work in ‘over run ICUs ‘ with patient’s who are unvaxed.

She has been threatened with access to grand children.

It’s getting a bit tense to say the least.

Any advice?

sam2
sam2
Sep 15, 2021 4:58 PM

why not just say she’s had it?

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 15, 2021 5:25 PM
Reply to  sam2

That is a good, logical answer.

However, whatever the pressure she could not tell a lie to her children.

It will be the truth, whatever that will be.

The children who, of course, blame me will not listen to any source that is not as per the narrative.

I feel really sorry for her.

Any parent/grandparent will recognise the dilemma.

Anonyme
Anonyme
Sep 15, 2021 6:27 PM

Curious how you yourself seem to be immune to the threats from offspring. Do they realise you are a “lost cause” or perhaps you are not the Grandfather of these kids? In any case it is revealing to see how people react to threats and coêrcion. Your wife included. All of the unsullied here are facing our own little attacks. Some say information is the key to the bullwark against slavery, others are just naturally stubburn.

Maybe ask for clarity from the offspring as to how often she will need to get jabbed with mRNA; twice? Every six months? Perhaps if they can set out in writing what the schedule is for the Right to Access her Grandkids then you’ll be on solid contractual ground.

On the other side of the deal, will said offspring be willing to take care of her if/when she gets sick? If they are laying down conditions for access then perhaps they could lay all their cards on the table.

Good luck, Sir.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 15, 2021 8:40 PM
Reply to  Anonyme

Thanks for your input.

Yes, I am stepdad and also a lost cause. There has never been a pretense there:

As I said in my post, Children are immune from reading or listening to anything remotely ‘off message’. so trying to talk about rational problems is out of the question.

They have no other plan than to ‘follow the science’.

Their mother is able to think clearly for herself but has the emotional ties of a mother.

sam2
sam2
Sep 15, 2021 11:14 PM

why not wait until the truth comes out. It may take a year but people will realise the vaccines are dangerous in the not too distant future.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 9:04 AM
Reply to  sam2

That was our plan. We are pretty cautious because we would look pretty stupid if either of us got the bogeyman.

We were waiting for more information and, as you say, it is opening up every day.

My wife can’t take another year of emotional blackmail and the alternative is to break communication. Again, not possible.

I don’t envy her her decision.

Steve Jones
Steve Jones
Sep 16, 2021 4:43 PM

You wouldn’t look stupid if either of you “got the bogeyman”, because there are loads of ‘vaccinated’ people who have had a positive (false positive) ‘test’ result, it means absolutely nothing. Your wife has to learn how to deal with this sort of stupidity. People who won’t listen when you are explaining things with facts have only themselves to blame, the children sound like the usual Normie idiots who would jump off a cliff if the TV told them.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 18, 2021 3:00 AM

It’s a question of living or dying. If she wants to live, she has to let them go, if necessary. I barely talk to my relatives who have had the shots. They are beyond reaching and they are sycophants to authority so it’s impossible to have any decent dialogue.

If they are blackmailing her they are cruel and inhuman. Their fear and susceptibility to paranoia from propaganda isn’t your wife’s problem. She has to take a harder line. I would show her this. Covid19 Immunity in 19 minutes. 150,000+ views.

Then she can send it to her children. She could also tell them she is prepared to write them out of any inheritance if they try to force her hand and make her take an injection with such a high rate of injury and death. That might make them come around. Fast. I bet they value what she can leave them more than the fear of an imaginary virus. Good luck.

Catherine Austin Fitts
Catherine Austin Fitts
Sep 16, 2021 5:08 AM

Suggest you have your wife and children fill out the Family Financial Disclosure Form and take the steps necessary to ensure the family has practiced informed consent and is protected from bankruptcy or estate problems if your wife is sick, disabled or dies as a result. Taking this injection without financially protecting other family members from the known adverse events is the height of irresponsibility. One person does not have the right to play russian roulette with the time and resources of other family members. https://home.solari.com/forms/

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 8:59 AM

Thanks for your reply Catherine. I have looked at your site with interest. You are correct. Nobody has the right to interfere with another’s personal decisions, especially medical.

As an aside, I enjoyed your video which certainly raised a question:

We know and expect that the government lies but your pastor having prior knowledge!!!!

Catherine Austin Fitts
Catherine Austin Fitts
Sep 21, 2021 8:57 AM

I don’t think he had prior knowledge. He was expressing honest concern regarding the competition between Christianity and Islam, and he had swollowed a story/spin from up above.

Toby Russell
Toby Russell
Sep 15, 2021 5:29 PM

How horrible for you all! It’s more than likely you’ll face an agonising choice because your wife’s children will not budge.

The three fairly non-controversial suggestions I can think of are:

  1. When did anything like this ever happen around a vaccine before, with families across the planet being split because of an experimental drug forced on millions against their wills? Doesn’t the divisive nature of how this whole c19 event is being handled suggest something unusual is at play here? Isn’t that cause for caution?
  2. Look at the ONS stats on the risk to children from SARS-CoV-2, together. Compare UK with Sweden stats on children, pointing out the Sweden kept its primary schools open. Note that the JCVI states no risk to kids, kids are not super-spreaders. There’s no danger here according to official data.
  3. Point out the common ground. Your wife’s decision is based on her health, as are those of her children. No one is being ‘selfish’. Everyone wants what’s best for all. Your assessment of the data is that taking the ‘vaccine’ – an experimental drug – is unjustified. Your wife’s children have drawn a different conclusion. Would it be possible to investigate the data in a spirit of open-minded discovery, together? If yes, you could then present analyses from people like Dr Mike Yeadon, Dr Peter McCullough, Dr Luc Montagnier, Dr Robert Malone. These people are renowned experts in their fields. Why are they risking their reputations to sound the alarm? If your wife’s children want to argue these experts are all crazy/stupid people, ask them what evidence they have in support of that sort of assertion.

If you feel suggestion 3 has potential, the objective wouldn’t be to persuade your wife’s children they are wrong, but to lend support to the other points – they all work together, so to speak. Taken together, the logic more than strongly suggests something very strange is afoot. With that established, caution around the ‘vaccine’ could seem reasonable rather than crazy.

But I doubt you’ll have much success. People have been ‘hypnotised’ by the constant propaganda. It’s called “mass formation”, the process by which totalitarian regimes slowly establish themselves: a well studied phenomenon. When people buy into the lies, they cannot even perceive information to the contrary. They will use all manner of defence mechanisms to deny, refuse to hear and see, etc, what you present. It’s as if they have joined a cult. (I lost a friend to a cult, so I know what it looks like.)

I wish you luck, fortitude and sound health.

Toby Russell
Toby Russell
Sep 16, 2021 3:13 PM
Reply to  Toby Russell

I posted this yesterday, almost 22 hours ago. It was held in spam. Probably it’s mostly redundant now, but the thought counts (hopefully!).

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 4:26 PM
Reply to  Toby Russell

Hello Toby

Thank you for your thoughtful message.

I would also like to thank everyone else who replied with suggestions.

I have been staggered and encouraged by the number of positive responses I’ve received

Thank you to everyone.

Toby, Your thoughts are sound and logical.

Unfortunately, that’s the problem.

Logic saddled up, took a long ride across the desert, cooked some beans over a camp fire and is currently farting loudly.

As you say, the hypnotic effect of the psy-op – certainly the longest in history- has persuaded them that they are in immediate danger if they leave their front door.

Also, the most avid of the two has two children who will soon be eligible to be attacked and he is rolling up their sleeves for them.

Another factor is ‘buyer remorse’ where, once they have bought into the idea, it is virtually impossible for them to change their minds due to a loss of face.

In their case the hypnotism is the most likely.

Regarding dialogue, as I’ve stated in previous replies, there is absolutely zero acceptance of even the POSSIBILITY of any other version than he narrative.

This has been a useful exercise though.

It’s been like an online brainstorm and my mind feels less at a dead end.

Thanks again.

Steve Jones
Steve Jones
Sep 16, 2021 4:45 PM
Reply to  Toby Russell

You might also want to tell the children that people who aren’t ILL can’t spread a respiratory disease. The whole reason we know we are ILL when we have a respiratory disease is because of SYMPTOMS, and SYMPTOMS are the ONLY method that a respiratory virus has of spreading to others. When did WELL people suddenly become a threat to others? When the TV endlessly implied it, that’s when.

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Sep 15, 2021 7:14 PM

Why not tell them to mind their own effing business.

Ort
Ort
Sep 15, 2021 8:20 PM

Sounds good to me, but I fear it’s “too much like right” as the saying goes.

I’m fairly solitary these days, but I know two very different women who are grandmothers; they’re not faced with this scenario, but based on this admittedly small “anecdotal” sample, I’m certain that if they were, the coercive threat of cutting them off from their grandchildren would cause them to cave and get the pseudo-“vax”.

It’s appalling, even diabolical, but once someone gives in to this reprehensible manipulation, the cognitive dissonance mechanisms of all involved parties– the adults, that is, not the (grand)children– will kick into overdrive to smooth things over.

Once jabbed, even reluctantly, the victim will rationalize the “decision”: at least now I can see my grandkids, so that’s a “win”. Both the self-righteous parties who laid down the red line and the victim will feel a compulsion to “forgive and forget” rather than “dwell on” any post-ultimatum regrets, bitterness, or acrimonious resentment.

My cynical guess is that if Grandma suffers adverse consequences from the injection(s), she will perversely remain grateful that her grandchildren remain available to her– even if only via Zoom from her hospital bed.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 15, 2021 8:52 PM
Reply to  Ort

Wise words. Thank you.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 15, 2021 8:41 PM

LOL (As I thnik they say in young people speak)

Azy
Azy
Sep 15, 2021 8:06 PM

Tell them they wouldn’t be on this planet if it wasn’t for their grandma and grandad. You’ve been in the planet longer, seen how things work longer and have more experience so they can be good kids and listen to their elders. Otherwise its time for a good old fashioned beatdown.

Actually these days its more about humiliating them to death, that’s what my mum does to me and it works wonders for her.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 15, 2021 8:46 PM
Reply to  Azy

Sound advice 🙂

Hele
Hele
Sep 16, 2021 7:38 AM

She needs to stay alive-to possibly care for them when they either get very ill or come out of the cult.Or Both.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 8:45 AM
Reply to  Hele

Good point

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 9:09 AM
Reply to  Hele

Thanks Hele. We are probably all boomlers.

The children are X and Y generations.

Probably the worst generations for education.

MSM is their news source.

There is no intellectual curiosity.

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 15, 2021 8:57 PM

My wife is 70 and is being pressured by her children to get jabbed.

LOL. can she say Fuck Off? she could replace the F word with “bugger” if she’s really old school.
If there is any money or property to be had later as inheritance, they WILL fuck off.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 15, 2021 10:05 PM
Reply to  Zardoz

This is the REALLY weird thing.

There is a shedload of inheritance for them yet they have been so covidised due to the biggest propaganda exercise ever.

This is a strange thing:

Stepson in law (45 years old) had issues last week with heart. Bp 180/ 110+. Hospital said not interested under 190.

Seriously!

Wife said to daughter ‘Have you considered the recent covid jabs he had as this is a common reaction?

Daughter ‘ I would rather he die of it than not have the vaccine’

You see what I am up against!

Lost off grid
Lost off grid
Sep 16, 2021 1:43 AM

I am a grandmother and fortunately my family are on the same page as I am. But there are plenty of short and long video clips of people suffering from these vaxs on bitchute (Jim Crenshaw) or thehighwire or other places. There is one guy who now takes 8 medications. I would feel like my kids were trying to put my life in danger if I were your wife. Turn the tables on them and show them the 12 year old girl who is paralyzed from the jab or a similar story and ask them if they can prove to her it is safe. A picture is worth a thousand words. Meet their drama with your own. Good luck. Mom knows best.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 8:33 AM
Reply to  Lost off grid

They will not even recognise that there IS another side to this let alone read ‘mad conspiracy theories’

Hele
Hele
Sep 16, 2021 7:36 AM

https://www.bitchute.com/video/wl7BYYGy0XcM/ Dr Stock makes case against masks,vaccines,cdc,nih in less than 6 minutes.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 8:44 AM
Reply to  Hele

Thanks Hele. If you want a laugh, do a quick search on this video to see what the ‘fact checkers’ spin is. It’s hilarious!

Hele
Hele
Sep 17, 2021 6:14 AM

I know! The ubiquitous fact checker is the first two pages of a google search-thou dost protest too much!

jimbojames
jimbojames
Sep 16, 2021 12:10 AM

She has to decide for herself but your advice should be to not to give in to this and not take a deadly, dangerous shot that has not proven efficacious, has tremendously dangerous side-effects, and that’s beside the fact the existence of a pandemic is highly debatable, not the deadly part, everybody agrees it’s not deadly for the vast, vast, vast majority of people, especially when you have health care.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 8:42 AM
Reply to  jimbojames

Jimbo. My wife is an intelligent person. Together we have looked at the facts. I have told her that the decision must be hers and that I will support her whatever she decides.

Wat Tyler
Wat Tyler
Sep 16, 2021 3:41 PM

If she was considering slitting her wrists, would you support her in that? I don’t mean to be rude, but for God’s sake, there has to be a line in the sand! There are such things as principles, honour, and integrity.

Nobody ever said that it was gonna be easy.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 4:31 PM
Reply to  Wat Tyler

We both realised that it was going to be hard. What we didn’t take into account was ‘friendly fire’

I’m assuming your male because of your name.

If I’ve learnt anything about women, it’s that you never get between a mother and her children. Human or otherwise.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 18, 2021 3:08 AM

Well that’s where your problem lies. You cannot support someone making a decision so irrationally that could affect both your lives so negatively. Do you want to be taking care of an injured wife who never really recovers, or picking out her casket? It’s time to get serious.

Deanna
Deanna
Sep 16, 2021 2:13 AM

I read this article just tonight, maybe I read it just for you as I’ve been lead to your question here. Your wife needs to stand by what is in herself. The “to thine own self be true” bit. Lying carries great regret, so does caving in. More and more info is coming to light, just hold on for all of us too! The children are living in fear. https://vaxxter.com/what-is-the-california-health-care-foundation-why-do-they-push-mrna-injections-on-the-elderly-and-the-sick

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 8:36 AM
Reply to  Deanna

Thanks for your reply. I, too, believe there is an awakening. It can only be a matter of time.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Sep 16, 2021 4:06 AM

I am wondering about the actual numbers of unvaxed in ICU’s. This is informative: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/09/covid-hospitalization-numbers-can-be-misleading/620062/
Also, I thought serious cases are around 1% of the population. Has that changed with vaccination? With so many vaxed, there should not be a major ICU problem, unless virus risk has increased overall. ICU’s should not be under more pressure than when everyone was unvacvinated.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 8:39 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

Funny thing is there was a lot of talk in the last few weeks about high level of double jabbed in ICU. Official line was that there was a larger number of people double jabbed than immune intact. That narrative seems to have changed. Maybe they realised you can drive a tractor through the holes in that argument.

Edith
Edith
Sep 16, 2021 8:48 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

The pressure is all over the place…today I had 2 of them personally…a nurse who has to give up career…..I just say she won’t have to wait long before they need her back with staff shortages…so have a holiday…..and a local hairdresser had one of the mad vax enthusiasts attack her and tell her she will soon have no clients…of course she won’t but it must still bother people being attacked like this….this shit just brings out the viciousness of some of these people….

Victor G.
Victor G.
Sep 16, 2021 12:14 PM
Reply to  MaryLS

The Atlantic?

Ort
Ort
Sep 16, 2021 9:05 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Perhaps the obsolescent axiom about the “stopped clock” applies.

NickM
NickM
Sep 16, 2021 9:22 AM

I did not pressure my poor wife. She took 3 jabs, and had no ill effects except feeling “unwell” for a day or two after the second jab. Now she can visit our children, our grandchildren and the new great-grandchild; as well as share in public services. Plusses all round.

Except now every time she repeats that she doesn’t feel well, I feel destined for Hell because I did not stop her taking an untested and unnecessary medical procedure that is increasingly being reported to produce serious side effects.

No advice, just sharing my own anecdotal experience.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 10:32 AM
Reply to  NickM

Nick, you were in a no win situation as I am now. I accept that people die from illnesses and to protect yourself is human nature.

Blaming yourself for something beyond your control is no answer.

It is not your fault, nor is it your wife’s fault for taking it.

What if you had stopped her taking a ‘flu jab and she developed pneumonia?

The fact is we know nothing about this treatment therefore informed consent, the cornerstone of medicine, is impossible.

NickM
NickM
Sep 16, 2021 2:09 PM

Thanks for your reply. As you say, informed consent, the cornerstone of medicine has been replaced by diktat. Information has been replaced by one-sided propaganda, and consent is overridden by decree. We are faced with impossible choices.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 4:32 PM
Reply to  NickM

Wishing your wife well.

Wat Tyler
Wat Tyler
Sep 16, 2021 3:34 PM

Stand your ground, end of story. As to HOW to do that, when there are other considerations – i.e. seeing your grandkids – that’s more complex. But under no circumstances whatsoever, inject yourself with a poison death shot.

It doesn’t really need to be said.

Howard
Howard
Sep 16, 2021 4:04 PM

Forgive a convoluted reply.

First, if your wife has any health issues – especially heart, as I do – she can use that as a reason to be reluctant. In fact, I had read long before the “vaccines” were even rolled out that people with heart conditions should not get the “vaccine.” That’s what I tell people – that I’m afraid to get it because of my heart condition. Fear is something they do understand.

Additionally, a neighbor whose daughter works in the ER assured me the ER was PACKED because of COVID. However, I can verify that the ER is ALWAYS PACKED!!!!! Long before COVID, an 8-hour wait to see a doctor – unless you thought you were having a heart attack – was the order of the day.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 16, 2021 5:46 PM
Reply to  Howard

Hi Howard.

Nothing to forgive.

I thought it was a very sensible suggestion!

I think you may be referring to my wife’s long term heart condition that she has hidden from her children to stop them worrying?

I know it will be hard for her to finally come clean and unburden herself as to why she has been so reluctant to take the jab.

I just hope they don’t feel too guilty about the stress they have caused her when they now the real reason.

Take care.

Ort
Ort
Sep 16, 2021 9:20 PM

I am entirely sympathetic to your and your wife’s position, or predicament, so I’m sorry if this isn’t helpful.

But I’m keeping my fingers crossed that the blackmailers don’t find fault with this seemingly “foolproof” reasonable explanation.

I can all too easily imagine scamdemic thralls who are utterly convinced that they “follow the science”, and have made rational judgments and decisions, trying to persuade someone with pre-existing health problems that being jabbed is still less of a risk than the jab(s) exacerbating one’s health problems.

I know a Grandpa that unexpectedly had quintuple bypass surgery in early 2020; one of the Grandmas I mentioned in my previous comment also unexpectedly had an angioplasty, I think it’s called, early this year– a stent was inserted in a coronary artery.

Both claim, or imply, that they are well-informed and risk-aware, yet both unhesitatingly got the pseudo-vaccines.

So I hope the blackmailers aren’t poring over an article or pamphlet entitled “Persuading the Vaccine-Resistant”, with a bullet point or section devoted to “debunking” the “I have a serious pre-existing health condition” objection.

Good luck, and I fervently hope you avoid the outcome of succumbing to the blackmail, and being compelled by circumstances to grin and bear it.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 17, 2021 1:20 PM
Reply to  Ort

Thanks again

It’s not as structured as that.

They just post MSM stories on social media that they know we will see.

A few weeks ago it was ‘I wish I’d taken the jab’ week so that was posted.

Then it was ‘kid’s week’ so that got posted.

This week it is ‘mother and daughter’ week so that has been posted.

To try to counter this with factual posts would be counterproductive as the hysteria is so deep seated.

Sad.

Steve Jones
Steve Jones
Sep 16, 2021 4:41 PM

“threatened with access to grand children”. Yes, I know it can be really hard dealing with grandchildren, what a thing to threaten her with – seeing her grandchildren!
My advice is – ask them what the Infection Fatality Rate is. That’s what they used to start all this bullshit with, when the number of people ‘tested’ was very low, so they could tell us there was a high infection fatality rate. Now we know the IFR is incredibly low, and cannot justify a lockdown OR an experimental gene therapy. Tell them that NOBODY has been ‘vaccinated’ against Covid 19 because vaccines are composed of inactivated virus, whereas what people are having now are experimental gene therapy injections.

John Rost
John Rost
Sep 16, 2021 6:42 PM

I don’t see what’s so hard about it. If the (her) children are Vax’d they feel protected, even though they by now should know better. Many studies show the young children are not the issue and don’t / won’t suffer the covid mortality and sickness… they just don’t, because they are more immune and resilient. It’s about the old people catching it from the kids who will be asymptomatic. My dad at 88 is not getting the vax either, my choice. He’s a doctor. Nor will my 9 year old. Any my 28 year old isn’t getting it either, because he thinks he already had the sickness but is way over it. And he can see that there are way too many unanswered questions, especially when it comes to natural immunity vs. the jab. No MSM talks about that…nor it is part of the CDC and WHO agenda. Their fears are ungrounded if it really is about the grand children. Thats just dumb… see the UK studies and how the children in the UK are not part of the problem… they exercise way more logic about it than we do. The UK data says 2 out of 1,000,000 died, and those two had bad health issues. More die from seasonal flu than the COVID flu. In my family, 2 of 3 sisters are the same way…they refuse to listen to the logic. Fear reigns. People die from the jab…thats a fact. Children, not so much.

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 15, 2021 12:44 PM

I find it curious that a suggestion of lunacy gets almost automatically attached to the expression ‘conspiracy theorist’ whatever the contest, as if conspiracies could only ever take place in a fictional world. In fact, it is indisputable that in 9/11 for example an attack was somewhere carefully planned and then spectacularly carried out. What is debatable is who was in the conspiracy and who wasn’t, and at what level. Because deception takes place at different levels.

Every conspiracy, especially a big one, must be structured on a number of levels in what we might call THE PYRAMID OF DECEPTION. Since it is pretty obvious that not everyone who is involved participates with the same level of knowledge or agency, we can postulate a pyramidal structure ranging from a wide base usually comprised of the general populace, forever the object of the most crass and ludicrous deception, all the way up to a vertex of a handful of planners, whose actions are forever shrouded from public scrutiny.

Deception, or at least non disclosure of the real motives, takes place at all levels on those who sit at the levels below. For example, the hijackers of 9/11, though clearly part of the conspiracy, were most likely unaware of its fundamental motives, or even of its true planners, and in the very least have been somehow deceived into martyrdom. At the level immediately above the base of the pyramid often finds its place the vast crowd of petty politicians, who know little more than spewing out deception at the public the way they’ve been instructed to do from above. And the entire political class, with only a few exceptions, I would place somewhere on the lower ranks of the pyramid. They are mere puppets and they know it. Middle rangers are then the various technocrats who at varying degrees are aware of some of the deception and often help dispensing it. Finally, the real decision makers, those who occupy the top levels and who have the real power, aren’t usually in the public eye, can afford to conceive and enact the worst atrocities, and can confidently expect to remain untouched simply because they literally own the world.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 15, 2021 2:53 PM
Reply to  Jacques

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juno
juno
Sep 15, 2021 4:35 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Yep. When my government officials take a paternal tone and rage at me how they’re ‘losing patience’ with me it just triggers me to dig in my heels and refuse even more.

I was a hopeless teenager, but I now see it as practice for real life.

NickM
NickM
Sep 16, 2021 9:35 AM
Reply to  juno

“The purpose of education is to develope one’s capacity to say “No” to nonsense.”

“Enlightenment is humanity achieving its Majority [21st birthday] from self-imposed Tutelage [dependence on Received Opinion]. — Immanuel Kant

MaryLS
MaryLS
Sep 16, 2021 4:15 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Iain Davis shows how this has worked with Covid, in his book Pseudopandemic. Very well documented and very convincing.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 15, 2021 10:10 AM

since the year 2000, the US Department of Defense had over 21 TRILLION dollars in unauthorised spending

To tide over the 2008 crisis, USG provided reckless cronies with aid of at least $29.6 trillion; only 12.9% of this was within the mandate of Federal Reserve. – Andrew Felkerson & Nicola Matthews, 2011

To put the plunder in context, the USG budget was ~$4 trillion, and the national GDP and national debt were both ~$20 trillion.

This is just one (though a major) example of plunder by GloboCap.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 15, 2021 8:40 AM

I only discovered Catherine Austin Fitts last year during lockdown here in Melbourne, and subsequently have listened to quite a few of her interviews since then regards the financial aspects of the covid coup, and on the emerging technocracy.
I have much respect for this woman, and her efforts in exposing this agenda. I also find her analysis of what is going on crystal clear and easy to understand. Perhaps Offguardian could feature her again here, via the occasional article from her.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 15, 2021 9:58 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

CAF, Mae Brussell (even though she died in 1988) All essential.

Listen to CAF with Dark Journalist in 2015. She saw it coming.
https://ar-state.com/v/l3y4j5nTo9aMbLw/catherine-austin.html

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 15, 2021 10:19 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I’ve seen her last couple of excellent interviews with Dark Journalist, since Event Covid began, and the name Mae Bussell rings a vague bell somewhere. Will do some digging. Will watch this after dinner, thanks M.

David
David
Sep 15, 2021 7:22 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Just offering this for those who haven’t read CAF’s story and want to learn more about her. Amazing woman with an amazing story that every American should read.
https://dillonreadandco.com/

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 15, 2021 7:47 AM

On the topic of lyrics that seem to anticipate the covid crapola, this from Peter Gabriel (in the late 70s I believe):

What can I do to stop this plague, spread by sight alone

Just a glimpse and then a quiver, then they shiver to the bone

“Spread by sight alone” sums it up. It’s TV that spreads it!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 15, 2021 7:59 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I only recently learned that Gabriel is one of the UN crowd and set up The Elders.
https://petergabriel.com/focus/the-elders/

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 15, 2021 8:04 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I’m a little surprised that Gabriel’s pal Alejandro J. isn’t part of the club…

Edwige
Edwige
Sep 15, 2021 9:35 AM

Sinead O’Connor accused Gabriel of exploiting her recently. O’Connor may not have been under-age but she shows clear signs of having been through some sort of mind control.

Gabriel is related to a former Lord Mayor of London. He went to Charterhouse and it was another Charterhouse Old Boy Jonathan King who got them into the music industry. His first wife was daughter of the Queen’s private secretary. Gabriel’s name and his band’s (especially in their original form of Gabriel’s Angels) suggests blasphemy and/or esotericism.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Sep 15, 2021 10:02 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Does brutal treatment at the hands of the catholic church whilst still a child count as mind control? Because she has talked about that.

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 15, 2021 9:13 PM
Reply to  Edwige

blasphemy and/or esotericism

Blasphemy is a sign of life, and there is nothing wrong with “esotericism” in general unless of course you are one of Y*hweh’s subjects.

“Gabriel” suggests Judaism to me.

One of the tragic things about faithful Christians is that they believe that the authors of the Old Testament meant them (or the whole of humanity ) when they wrote about Yahweh’s “chosen ones”….

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 15, 2021 3:17 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Well this is sobering bull from Pete:

“In traditional societies, elders always had a role in conflict resolution, long-term thinking and applying wisdom wherever it was needed. We are moving to this global village and yet we don’t have our global elders.”

The language of the psychobabble corporate guru dressed up for the post hippie squad.

I wonder. Does the category “rock star” signal a new mutation of an old class I.e. a more flamboyant model of the phony people’s leader?

The ones I dubbed the “executive class” are the middle layer whose job, whether they know it or not, is to popularise the wishes of the rulers by whatever route the current prejudices require.

And since the advent of rock ‘n roll and the whole youth movement thing, there has been a whole new demographic: affluent (and gullible) teens. (And I count myself as one of them but I’m rapidly wising up.)

Hele
Hele
Sep 16, 2021 7:44 AM
Reply to  George Mc

‘Global elders’ will be nought – if we continue on this path.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Sep 16, 2021 12:26 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I was too busy following John Lydon and John Mellor to bother with Genesis.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 15, 2021 8:45 AM
Reply to  George Mc

check out Prices 1996 lyrics for New World

https://genius.com/Prince-new-world-lyrics

Binra
Binra
Sep 15, 2021 11:54 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The underlying principle is an ancient facet of our psyche.
To make a screen grab available of a relevant bit (via Google books) I tweeted it at
https://twitter.com/onemindinmany/status/1438084824212848642?s=20

By the way I see a kind of witch-hunt mentality of seeking anything with any associations to ‘identified evils’ as a right to self righteously smear them. This is a perfect example of ‘wetiko’. In that something within our own thought is repackaged as a claim or assertion or insinuating suggestion regarding an other, with the pointing finger and the invitation to join in a feel-good moment of dumping hate as if to reaffirm we are the good guys. This, regardless of whether others have involvement with loveless, criminal or misguided acts in their past or present behaviour.

The magically determined act of excommunication is a social requirement so as to blank and distance from any demonised target of social guilt. To speak for the humanity of such a one is to be accused of apologising for and condoning the sin.

If you would that the life you HAVE truly lived and shared is saved from the masking struggle of self conflicted dissociative thinking, then give what is due to the living instead of reenacting self-hate on a world of division as if THIS time it will work.

Waking within this world to recognition of a dissociation from reality seen in others but not yet in our own mind can be deeply unsettling. We are finding this disturbing in the current time as a natural division from lies no longer beleived or accepted true – regardless they are ‘marketised and weaponised’ as a magically determined ‘official reality’.

A mind and world that is at it deeper level set to deny Who and What You Are, but from a self-conviction that such disclosure is more fearful than all of the terrors and devices set to distance and defend against it.

As such terrors and devices come into awareness, they would reactivate or reset defences in shifting narratives, as the intent and attempt to dump off or escape intolerable conflict, pain and hate – that might occur within a microsecond intended to be forget. Yet here is a deeper self-honesty from which a futility and dishonesty of self can be recognised in willingness to find another way of seeing.

To use the world of relationships as a dumping ground and a realm for getting a masked sense of adjusted reality for a deep sense of lack and conflict – that cannot seem to be even conceivably escaped, so much as mitigated as partitions of control – is to withhold and withdraw from what love is, and therefore who we are. Self-convicted guilt is set as mind and emotional certainty in irrevocable dissociation such that love is replaced with manipulative contractual self-illusions. But a mind set in its own thinking is not created by such thinking and therefore not trapped in the dictates of guilt and fear running a masking control of judgement as power set over life and apart from the living.

simon crow
simon crow
Sep 15, 2021 3:37 PM
Reply to  Binra

Thank you Binra.

Binra
Binra
Sep 15, 2021 4:46 PM
Reply to  simon crow

You are welcome!

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 15, 2021 9:22 PM
Reply to  Binra

what is the book????

Binra
Binra
Sep 15, 2021 10:47 PM
Reply to  Zardoz
Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 15, 2021 7:23 AM

Numerous young athletes suffer heart complications after mRNA ‘Covid vaccine’

John Stokes, a Division One athlete and academic medal of honor student at Tennessee State University, is hospitalized with myocarditis four days after second jab.

https://twitter.com/ke11ybender/status/1437164889307373568
https://www.bitchute.com/video/VCas4ZLJVvpc/

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 15, 2021 7:33 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

A woman was forced to take a ‘Covid vaccine’ before a Caesarean. Her baby was born with side effects as can be seen at 00:20:20 in this video:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CRoFalm8mfSO/

Azy
Azy
Sep 15, 2021 7:44 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Lost for words after seeing that baby. Max still a legend for spreading truth, but damn if I was that parent I’d wanna go kamikaze on the hospital that dealt the poison shot.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 15, 2021 8:04 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I was trying to find out more about this baby with side effects and I found this:

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/sep/10/pregnant-sydney-woman-with-covid-gives-birth-by-caesarian-section-so-she-could-be-ventilated

It just says she had covid, doesn’t say she took the vax, and that the baby “was taken to a separate hospital with better neonatal care resources and placed into an incubator.”

We then get this:

“The caesarean section was performed on the baby’s mother who was in intensive care with Covid and needed to be placed on a ventilator as her condition worsened.”

Incidentally, every search I tried consisted of nothing but reassurances that it was OK for pregnant women to get the vax.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 15, 2021 8:18 AM
Reply to  George Mc

So they are locking healthy children up with supposedly sick parents and calling them covid patients, what a fucking stupid con when the rest of the world knows the fake tests have all been revoked.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 15, 2021 10:06 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The poor child has exactly the effects of the prion diseases resulting from the folded mRNA or other delights of mishapen spike protein.

Similar twitching is exhibited by many people after the Covid shot. Now every side-effect of the shot is being reclassified as Covid lurgy.

Covid lurgy was flu. Now the saviour vaxx gives you adverse reactions that are attributed to Covid-flu… yet we never saw those reactions at the time. They are being tacked on as the ‘vaccine’ rolls out.

People tell me they have seen fatal outbreaks of ‘Covid’. Vicious strain of pneumonia or are people are not revealing that they’ve been vaxxed?

Binra
Binra
Sep 15, 2021 5:18 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I would not discount the possibility of graphene and nanoparticle effects that provide the same symptom set of blood conditions, clots, hypoxia etc.
In fact I would learn more about it and what can mitigate or clear it from our body. It was reportedly in 2019 flu injections, and is ingested and inhaled by various means , including masks.
You can research graphene in its biological applications – which I see as investment seeking PR in terms of cheery picked positive reasons for remote surveillance and control. Just how far along this is – who can be sure, but that its a multibillion open investment (ie not counting hidden investments) indicates its an active narrative agenda with enough practical examples as to attract investors/stakeholders.
While my sense of the Big Genetic Promise that also attracted vast Global Investment, is that it did not pay off. The model as promised did not work or deliver. Yes it can put a wrench in the gears and CRSPR can force local changes without awareness of unexpected/unwanted effects, but only ‘gene therapy’ for cancer was pushed through (With unexpected unwanted consequence) to be brought one more step into coronavirus gene therapy (so called vaccines).
The repeating of PR about spike proteins is hardly something that can be tangibly demonstrated – any more than actually isolating and characterising a virus and demonstrating its causation of specific disease symptoms.
So its very easy to also presume the ‘spike protein’ (I don’t doubt it toxic) does what it is said to do. OR that it does what alarmist say it did to otters – which I read and believed until I saw the actual paper and Cowan showing that it is misrepresented.
Where is real physics/biology occurring and nocebo free? In the true functional expression of the body-mind as one.
As the SarsCov2 has not been isolated but only reverse engineered in software from a few thousand out of millions of genetic bits of snot soup, how can its ‘S-protein be established – except by the same monopoly of setting such definitions in highly specialised labs operating behind closed doors?
So if experiment, war or biotech control by stealth is in play, the recipes for what is to be injected precede and determine the recipe for the virus and its test.
It is true that as a bioweapon – by the means I just suggested or as the idea of actually creating Frankenvirus that breaks out of labs and kills us all – it has been a spectacular fail or dud – as most deaths are more from mis or maltreatment than by the actual condition, and the overall deaths by all causes were not significantly different for the 19/20 Respiratory disease/detox season than previous recent years.
This is not to say that graphene in biology does not react to EMF.
As long as pathogen/virus theory has a lever on our thinking we are unable to escape its narratives – whether ‘wild’ or ‘lab’.

Besides what is being done is what is being infected mind to mind. While I attempt and perhaps fail to point to this from outside a division by deceit or ‘wetiko’, the world is increasing aligning with a need to awaken from deceits as its primary purpose. What we awaken to, and as cannot be defined but can be truly and wholly shared.

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 15, 2021 9:36 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Your link has no link 🙁

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 15, 2021 8:11 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Most of you here should consider yourselves fortunate that you haven’t delved deeply into the surprisingly abundant evidence for “reincarnation.” What awaits — as depicted in this video — is indeed the stuff of nightmares and horror films.

Howard
Howard
Sep 15, 2021 1:23 PM

Where’s the video? Or did you mean the video of Catherine Austin Fitts? Not sure I’d care to be reincarnated as a Catherine Austin Fitts. But then, why shouldn’t she make a bundle of money while giving the rest of us some good advice?

Truth ain’t free guys!

Binra
Binra
Sep 15, 2021 5:28 PM
Reply to  Howard

Because truth simply is, no price can be set or paid.
Because self illusion has been learned at great cost of awareness of truth, the recognition of our need to release blocks and distortions, meets the price we set in gaining them. That is the more deeply invested the more protected and the more it seems to cost you to be free of them – until you recognise it is illusions that exact cost, not truth.
Truth as a balance of learning and teaching, giving and receiving is such that you cannot really receive love without being the willingness to share it. In time it may be that you receive by a grace you don’t believe you deserve, to grow the recognition of likewise releasing your own judgements set on others as if to suffer at their hand.

CA Fitts does offer services that you may pay for, but if you receive something worthy freely, might it be because you can in your own timing and your own way share the gift on? Not from obligation, but by inspiration – because that’s just who you are.

She’s not a stranger to bundles of money – and the territory they bring with them.

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 15, 2021 9:37 PM

Come on, give us some horror material. What awaits, and how do you know???

Binra
Binra
Sep 15, 2021 11:19 PM

Your freedom to play that role is of course with you.
The nightmare and horror is designed to keep you IN it and light OUT.
Fear of Disclosure operates a displacement mapping.

The true Unconscious is not repressed and denied experience but God or Source.
And more akin to Superconciousness in which our minds are set by Forgetting.
Unselfconscious joy is innocent of masked-over hate and fear.

Yet the desire to recapture what is believed possessed and then broken or lost persists a grasping in its memory as grievance or guilt.
Such as to put love in a broken past or future regained by escape or overcoming of what is blamed for breaking or despoiling life..

Where you focus within Infinity or Timelessness is up to you.
The same freedom applies to all.
But what you give, assigns the measure of your receiving.
If you would send others to hell, where else could you find yourself?

We don’t make our own Reality, but what we make OF it, can substitute as a masking distortion or even reversal that is real to the mind of its believer.
If we seek with such a mindset we will find its reinforcement.
Life does not yield on our terms.
Is freely and already Given in its own.

fame
fame
Sep 15, 2021 6:53 AM

I have just received word that the Estonian government has documents stating that children 12 and above can decide for themselves whether to get the “vaccine” or not. I imagine this is the next protocol set to be instituted everywhere. I have only seen a child in a mask here once or twice, it is not recommended or required by the government. Like everywhere, many people here are more protective of their children than themselves. I hope this is a wake up call and already I know of people who were not doing or saying anything already becoming active. Apparently vaccine brigades will be sent to the schools in the coming days, maybe even today but I am not sure about that. If you haven’t already been homeschooling, or neighborhood schooling, your children I suggest you look into it.

A friend the other day was dropping her child off at school. It is customary to enter the school with your child here. She was yelled at, shamed and accosted by the head administer of the school in front of everyone and told to put on a mask. She is strong and held her ground and informed everyone of her rights. What will the children do when they are similarly being yelled at, shamed and accosted? How else will they be coerced into taking the death shot? I have a a few nephews here, one just turned 12 years old last month.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Sep 15, 2021 8:47 AM
Reply to  fame

The teachers everywhere have become morally bankrupt modern day Kapo’s. They have been enthusiastic supporters of the covid fascism, and what they are doing to children is outrageous. The same is also happening here in Australia with children now being targeted.

Jacques
Jacques
Sep 15, 2021 12:33 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

They are the worst scum. I see the same here in brainwhashed Italy.

Edwige
Edwige
Sep 15, 2021 9:44 AM
Reply to  fame

UK children under 15 can already be vaccinated without their parent’s knowledge or consent under Gillick competence. That’s despite not being considered mature enough to vote, drink, drive a car, have sex, get married, join a trade union etc.

Here’s the BBC pushing youngsters into thinking they know best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeGe6bKpASY

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 15, 2021 10:40 AM
Reply to  Edwige

I wonder if the kids realise it works both ways, i.e. they can also refuse the jab without their parents knowledge/permission.

Anonyme
Anonyme
Sep 16, 2021 4:39 PM
Reply to  ImpObs

Blimey there’s a simple, fresh perspective! I have to admit I’m so pessimistic about the brainwashing via “education” it never really occured to me that this was an option. Thank you impObs.

I remember us all being lined up aged 17 for TB jabs and I rolled up my sleeve. Wasn’t happy about it but I toed the line all the same.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 15, 2021 2:13 PM
Reply to  fame

There’s gonna be some serious brain washing in the class rooms… testing testing

sam2
sam2
Sep 15, 2021 5:04 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

brainwashing in classrooms has been going on for a long time

Binra
Binra
Sep 15, 2021 5:41 PM
Reply to  fame

This is a global intent. Cut the ties and act from a position of state ownership.
Then to use them as a proxy for a ‘cultural revolution’ – ie against parents who think or act in ways that are framed as hateful, and dangerous or disgusting.
There may be nuances of Law that pertain, I am no expert on Law, but living boys and girls may be your property by law, whereas your children are not, but under state jurisdiction. This kind of word magic is encapsulated into all kinds of corporate statutes that effectively re-present or run as a corporate contract of your accepted identity.
The distortion of law to cancel gender might be closing a loophole here.

A dissociated corporate capture of life is not itself alive, but is largely given identification and compliance via trained habits of mind and behaviour of which we are mostly oblivious.
However, we are each a living one, and our living offspring are each our responsibility, excepting we contract or assign that to others, to schools and state/corporate services or to tvs and screens.

Marshal Rosenberg had a good story of his own home schooled son going to a mainstream school and getting gaslighted and bullied and knowing how to relate to the situation. Look at his videos

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 15, 2021 9:40 PM
Reply to  fame

You can be sure that not a single word was drafted by the Estonian government. They were given the orders by the scam directors from Pfizer et al.

Anyone who still sends their kids to school is a child abusing idiot.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Sep 16, 2021 12:31 PM
Reply to  fame

Bad doody, all right … “What will the children do when they are similarly being yelled at, shamed and accosted?” I hope some, maybe many, will develop character.

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 15, 2021 6:46 AM

According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, you’re not counted as fully vaccinated until a full 14 days have passed since your second injection in the case of Pfizer or Moderna, or 14 days after your first dose of Janssen, despite the fact that over 80% of deaths after the vaccines occur in this window. How convenient

Anyone who dies within the first 14 days post-injection is counted as an unvaccinated death.

The lying pigs!

fame
fame
Sep 15, 2021 6:24 AM

I am currently working on the strategy part of a notice to send to a school (or business) that is requiring those associated to get a vaccine or take a test. I have a fairly simplistic idea. I would appreciate any feedback or suggestions that any of you have.

1. If you want me to take a test or a vaccine then you need to prove that there is a virus, sarscov2, that has been purified so that I know what the test and the vaccine is for. Please send me proof of purification and isolation of the virus.

2. Send them the notice of liability that has recently been sent to the EU parliament. https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Letter-and-Notice-of-Liability-to-EMA-and-MEPs.pdf

3. Inform the school that a similar notice of liability will be sent to them if they will require you to take the vaccine to attend school.

4. Inform the school that they can similarly request the same thing from the government that you have requested from them. Proof of the virus and liability to student, staff and teachers for the damages done by the virus. This should free up your school and it shows the school that you are not in a battle with them but are in fact helping them not cave into the illegal measures.

fame
fame
Sep 15, 2021 6:58 AM
Reply to  fame

Sorry but I forgot to push the save button when I tried an edit but wanted to put this into the first paragraph above:
I am not a lawyer. We have been working with a few lawyers here but their strategies don’t seem to fit what we need and don’t seem like they will work for us.

David
David
Sep 15, 2021 9:11 AM
Reply to  fame

Sorry to be so blunt, but any parent that would send their kid to a school that’s masking, injecting, and brainwashing is a willing participant in the abuse and harm. Everybody wants an easy solution, yet we’ve arrived at a moment in history when the choices are stark and tough.
It’s really just a matter of who is willing to protect their kids by refusing to turn them over to abusers, vs the choice to cooperate with the abuse and disavow personal responsibility. Isn’t it obvious that the school districts and the rest of the politicians, the judges & prosecutors, the police, the media, and half of the population who love tyranny when they think they’re on the favored side are all in collusion to take away parental rights, and don’t give a damn about threats of legal action because the fix is already in? Time to wake up, because the tyranny is just getting started and the kids are a major target.

fame
fame
Sep 15, 2021 6:58 PM
Reply to  David

Its not my child’s school, I have no children, its my wife’s. She goes to a holistic therapy school. Should she have not? The director of the school facebook page shows shes is solidly against the pandemic and knows of the scam yet she complies. This eastern european country has a long history of being subservient to occupying forces. The people are clueless to the extent of the oppression and submission as you may have been if you grew up here. And yet they have had a very rough past. For as long as the family can remember five or six generations all the male portion of the family, except her father, has been killed off or disappeared.

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 15, 2021 9:54 PM
Reply to  fame

There are covid tests using saliva. That is your easiest/safest way out if you really must send the kids there.

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 15, 2021 9:48 PM
Reply to  fame

We charge you for actively or tacitly paving the way to the second

holocaust of mankind. The same charge has been independently submitted by survivors of the first holocaust and their families.

That is REALLY bad. Most will stop reading there, for a variety of reasons.

Everyone: PLEASE stop using (zionist) propaganda to support these arguments!!!
I won’t go into discussion here of how many “holocausts” there have been and how many (and who) were actually killed in each…

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 15, 2021 6:03 AM

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juno
juno
Sep 15, 2021 1:57 PM

Great essay.
The whole mind blowing thing:

https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/Jonestown.html

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Sep 15, 2021 6:01 AM

I thought that a lot of the missing money is covered by all the fake space missions NASA undertake to ‘Mars’ etc. where they actually spend their time filming in out in the Mojave desert? What they really do with it we can only imagine…

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Sep 15, 2021 12:21 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

On the physical earth that money never existed. The Fed created it as numbers and then they disappeared. End of. But. The government gave them legitimacy so now they are a debt to the owne

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Sep 15, 2021 12:39 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

s of the fed and our labour is the only thing that can pay it. Slaves to magic. The bankers sell numbers. The government is payed with numbers to legitimise the trick by telling us the numbers mean something. They are the slave drivers for the Owners. We are the slaves who vote to be such. Money is the emperor’s New clothes, the bankers are the tailors, the government runs the fashion show and we’re the suckers.

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Sep 15, 2021 6:57 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

True dat.

Hank
Hank
Sep 15, 2021 5:30 AM

So I get this right, OH&S states that a business must provide a safe work place for employees and customers. Businesses have put themselves in a no win situation with green passports and covid.

Look at all the lawsuits in the past for asbestos slippery/wet floor or chemicals. Covid will be no different.

Now if you are pinged from a covid safe app or passport and can track that back to a place you visited then that place can be liable for prosecution if you are infected, become sick or pass away. If they can lock you up being close to someone who tested positive then they can track that back to a business and prove they didn’t provide a safe premises.

Unless they test the blood of every person or have a biosecurity officer at every entry a premises cannot provide assurance of a safe practice that protects from covid infection. Remember they said asymptomatics can spread the virus so a temperature check is not enough. A PCR test takes too long or will be thrown out in court. The cost to maintain this is far too high for any business to attempt. If you are letting infected people in the door isn’t that negligence?

Businesses have put themselves in a predicament here. For failing to back their employees and customers they are now a target of lawsuits or OH&s means nothing. You may be able to get away with it in some countries that don’t practice OH&S but not in those that do.

Either this covid thing or the passport all go away or businesses will be up for millions of dollars.

A green tick on a phone is no assurance of a safe workplace or premises.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Sep 15, 2021 4:22 AM

Still haven’t used a face mask and it feels great!

Johnny
Johnny
Sep 15, 2021 3:52 AM
Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 15, 2021 8:20 AM
Reply to  Johnny

WEll they know better than the idiot politicians and facist CHO’s

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Sep 15, 2021 3:45 AM

This is the official text of the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution…

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

i.e the Federal Govt hasn’t got a hope in hell of enforcing mandates in the States and they know it. This is about fear. The minute people stop fearing their Govt this madness will end.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 15, 2021 3:53 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

“Heil Bidler!”
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“Cuomo-ize (Euthanize) the World! Corporate Fascism and Eugenics forever.”

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 15, 2021 3:57 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

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Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 15, 2021 8:21 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Hitler’s play book was written in the USA by the EUgenics society decades before Hitler came to power, the US Supreme court upheld forced sterilisation of undesirable women in 1911. People need to remember that fact.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 15, 2021 4:02 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

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Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 15, 2021 6:28 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Reichsmarschall Schwabler:

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Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 16, 2021 11:53 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

No, that should read “This is in your near future if you DON’T defy the Vaccine Tyrants”.

Steve
Steve
Sep 15, 2021 3:54 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

Yes, interestingly it also implies constitutional protection for the people if that power was never delegated to the Federal Govt. Whether or not you are in a red state or a traitor state. As Judges have been exempted from the vaccine (because all Judges are immune) I would be curious to see how they rule.

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 16, 2021 11:51 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

I don’t think the masonic constitution was ever anything other than another ruse, another card trick to hoodwink the masses into compliance.

“Democratic” governments around the world have just shown that they do not need to stick to their constitutions, because there is no court that will try them, because “state of emergency” which will be continued indefinitely until the landless peasants destroy the international theft & murder system, or the system destroys itself.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Sep 16, 2021 3:54 PM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

Yes. The Tenth Amendment specifies the power of the States to Nullify Federal mandates. Also, local sheriffs retain considerably more power than Any Federal agent within a local jurisdiction.

Civilian populations have no clue as to States rights or sovereign rights, because they’ve been educated in a Federally mandated educational system…

The Federal government is a corporation. A corporation. Not a elected agency of the People…

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Sep 15, 2021 3:11 AM

The New Normal, how depressing !
No more Conga Lines – the best dance the lower classes ever created.
I’m thinking “clandestine Conga Meetings”, and “Secret Conga Societies”… Then, when we’ve reached Critical Mass, we come out of the closets and do a mass Conga Line demo – in front of parliament – and invite the governments heavily-armed thin-blue-line to join in…
Anybody ?

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 15, 2021 3:36 AM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

My favourite concept of ‘critical mass’ is when the traitors who are running everything today can no longer be contained in our existing prisons.

Other remedies will then have to be considered.
The genetic code which has spawned these horrific specimens falls into the “extremely virulent’ category, which is a totally different ball game from the “preferably to be avoided” category.

Judith
Judith
Sep 15, 2021 11:57 AM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Sounds good to me

Ort
Ort
Sep 15, 2021 7:55 PM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Say it ain’t so!

If Conga Lines are now streng verboten, is the hokey-pokey on the rim of the dustbin of history?

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/31063/ambiguous-origins-hokey-pokey

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Sep 16, 2021 1:01 AM
Reply to  Ort

yes. We’re morphing into “The Untouchables” so when we become post-hoomin, when They transfer our brains into mechanical bodies, we wont feel a thing. Ever seen a robot do the Conga, or the hokey-pokey ? meanwhile the non-vaxxed will be treated as untermensch…as for rimming dustbins…

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Sep 15, 2021 1:59 AM
wardropper
wardropper
Sep 15, 2021 3:02 AM

I have a limited tolerance for babies (my brother thinks I’m a grumpy old man), but this one is a keeper.

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Sep 15, 2021 4:54 AM
Reply to  wardropper

the trouble with babies is their parents.
i can stand most kids, but only when their parents arent around.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 15, 2021 1:40 PM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

So true… although babies and kids are not quite the same thing in my book…

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 16, 2021 11:56 AM
Reply to  wardropper

That baby is way too happy for the New Normal. It needs to be vaccinated ASAP!

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 15, 2021 3:21 AM

Contagious, and no virus required.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 15, 2021 2:21 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

I thought I was vaccinated against that, proof that they don’t work

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Sep 15, 2021 1:33 AM

All that spraying Fame mentions below can’t be cheap. Basically that big T money number is only more fake money numbers to bury us deeper in fake debt to the fake banks that lend nothing but numbers. It’s time everyone woke up to that. We owe the banks exactly what they gave us- nothing but empty numbers. We’ve swapped the earth for numbers. Now they own it and don’t need us, we’ve done our bit and given it to them of our own free will. Either we pay them back with our own numbers or we’re dead. Simple. Get it in your head, or you’re dead. Me too but I’m not willing.

Anonyme
Anonyme
Sep 16, 2021 5:08 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Maybe we need a different vocabulary for fiat currencies. Dollar comes from the Silver Thalers mined in Europe. It has a ring of preciousness. Pound as well implies Weight. Something tangible.

I’m reminded of when the Akele in the Cubs would distribute his “points” for doing Good Stuff. At annual camp we were all mesmerised and totally bought into the system and in the end the “points” counted for nothing. No reward. That was a learning.

Maybe we could just start calling currency units “points” for being good boys and girls. We borrow points from the bank (who generate them magically) and then we need to pay back the points by winning points for good behaviour.

Akele was onto something.

Arby
Arby
Sep 15, 2021 1:20 AM

Catherine’s views on God are very different than mine.

Catherine packed a lot into her short presentation there. Does she still attend church? Do people apply the lessons that they’ve learned, as she herself recommends?

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 15, 2021 3:27 AM
Reply to  Arby

That’s what I like about religion; it’s possible to think for yourself, even if the priest is a gullible looney.

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 16, 2021 12:00 PM
Reply to  Arby

Church is what brought us here! Centuries of brainwashing have worked, and the 2+2=5 of the Bible has done its job. The religion cult for pacified slaves, psychopaths and pedos.

Just been reading about Jim Jones and other “god – fearing” scum… delightful.

Bruce Tonka
Bruce Tonka
Sep 15, 2021 12:09 AM

well this reached at least 80 Million Americans. Aired on Fox News. Uncle Murdoch to the rescue.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/carlson-warns-if-the-powers-that-be-can-force-you-to-get-a-shot-what-cant-they-make-you-take/

The sheeple awaken

Steve
Steve
Sep 15, 2021 3:56 AM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

And Fox is transmitted in Australia so hopefully it woke a few up.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 15, 2021 1:43 PM
Reply to  Bruce Tonka

So what is Uncle Rupert up to?

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Sep 14, 2021 11:30 PM

Intertwining/conflating disparate and false narratives was something the Guardian always did well . It is depressing to see Offguardian reduced to the same sort of status quo promoting demagoguery , self deception , and cognitive dissonance. .

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Sep 14, 2021 11:57 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

What are you actually saying? Cut out the word of the day platitudes for a second and please explain, what do you mean? Also, please link to where the guardian have ever sought to reanalyse the events of 9/11 and compare it usefully to anything else. If you don’t recognise this act as being of any worth then you clearly have a lot more than this to be disappointed with here. In which case get your priorities straight, you clearly disagree with everything Offg stands for, so perhaps save this sort of censorious niggle for readers’ letters in the times where high pomposity, low content goes down rather better. Thanks. A2

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 15, 2021 12:20 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Which most apt comment from Sam sums up bluntly as: ‘Jim is full of it. But why…? Operative with an agenda…?’

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Sep 15, 2021 1:02 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

My thoughts entirely

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 15, 2021 9:09 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Given the anonymity afforded on this site, it’s surprising that there are not more paid shills.

If you look at comments section of MSM they are very easy to spot and receive a huge amount of negative response.

The Uk Mail online is a good example and, if you sign up, you can check out the stats. for all commentators.

The shills invariable have a huge number of posts in a short period of time and normally a negative net vote.

One thing you can be sure of is the fact that they ARE reading this column.

It’s worth bearing in mind when you post on here it is not just an echo chamber.

What you say DOES influence the psy-op

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 16, 2021 12:02 PM

All new commenters here must be pre-approved by the admin before their comments emerge from “spam check”, so probably we only get to see the tip of the iceberg.

Justin
Justin
Sep 15, 2021 4:10 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

OG has the decency to allow you to rant freely, something you should be very grateful for – OR – would you prefer a totalitarian dictatorship where useful idiots are quickly dealt with once their dirty work has been achieved – think about it son, think hard.

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 16, 2021 12:09 PM
Reply to  Justin

OG has the decency to allow you to rant freely,

Not really; they have made it clear that certain types of dissenting views are not allowed- most notably something about “respecting all creeds” and a confusion of religion and race.
I’m sure the site is under constant attack by NWO shills but there are definite ideological boundaries here, like all places that have an admin and moderators who actively participate in discussion.
I have identified a few IMO serious and on-point anti-NWO researchers that are not promoted here (or are even actively suppressed) , for reasons that are unclear and can only be ideological (which includes paranoia about controlled opposition).

Zardoz
Zardoz
Sep 16, 2021 12:09 PM
Reply to  Justin

Ironically my initial reply to you was spam checked.

here it is:

OG has the decency to allow you to rant freely,

Not really; they have made it clear that certain types of dissenting views are not allowed- most notably something about “respecting all creeds” and a confusion of religion and race.
I’m sure the site is under constant attack by NWO sh!lls but there are definite ideological boundaries here, like all places that have an admin and moderators who actively participate in discussion.
I have identified a few IMO serious and on-point anti-NWO researchers that are not promoted here (or are even actively suppressed) , for reasons that are unclear and can only be ideological (which includes paranoia about controlled 0pposition).

Mr Y
Mr Y
Sep 15, 2021 4:27 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Examples, Jim, examples …

shamen
shamen
Sep 15, 2021 9:32 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

i always called him jim beam me up.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Sep 15, 2021 2:23 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Why does it make you sad… I think you seem pretty happy.

John
John
Sep 15, 2021 1:10 AM

Yes but why would one need a religious exemption! Why do you need a friggin exemption at all. This whole thing stinks., is illegal and is clearly a WMD (a real one this time)

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 15, 2021 3:43 AM
Reply to  John

It’s a foot in the door.
Once you allow religious exemption in 2021, there’s not much left which you can’t allow.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 15, 2021 8:26 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Especially when so many in the US are religious.

juno
juno
Sep 15, 2021 2:05 PM

I’ve decided to ‘get religion’ pretty quick here.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Sep 16, 2021 12:44 PM
Reply to  juno

Don’t forget Pastafarianism is a recognized religion.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster will prevail.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Sep 15, 2021 10:27 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Like with any exemption for anything on psychological grounds (which religious exemption is), they are unprovable either way, because if you say it’s true, it is true. Post modernism to the rescue! How ironic.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 15, 2021 7:47 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

I don’t think the present ‘authorities’ give a damn about whether anything is true or not.
They just want their ‘narrative’ to work.

Charlotte Russe
Charlotte Russe
Sep 14, 2021 10:53 PM

Who knows, $35 Trillion might be missing:  
The Pentagon made$35 trillion in accounting adjustments last year alone— a total that’s larger than the entire U.S. economy and underscores the Defense Department’s continuing difficulty in balancing its books.
The latest estimate is up from $30.7 trillion in 2018 and $29 trillion in 2017, the first year adjustments were tracked in a concerted way, according to Pentagon figures and a lawmaker who’s pursued the accounting morass.  The Pentagon’s $35 Trillion ‘Accounting Black Hole’

Like the scamdemic, there’s always “multiple reasons” why elaborate false flags are triggered: hiding extensive fraud, the chance to pilfer many more billions of tax dollars for an endless new escapade, removing the Orangeman via a pandemic, establishing a heightened surveillance program instituted by “half-dead Biden” the security states’s marionette .  

The Pentagon’s $35 Trillion ‘Accounting Black Hole’camsmanalo
$35 trillion is about one-and-a-half times the size of the entire US economy.
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Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill
Sep 15, 2021 12:45 AM

Phenomenal Cartoon. Pure genius.

fame
fame
Sep 14, 2021 10:07 PM

Great church story from Catherine Austin Fitts. With a preacher like that who needs a tv.

Spray planes all day again today. Nothing unusual these days. The sky grew so thick with the mucky haze that I could only hear them till later in the day when the sky began again to show the plane contrails everywhere. Fairly typical pattern here. Since 2001 they have been increasing the geoengineering at an accelerated pace. It is not merely an assault on humanity but an assault on all living creatures and the earth. It is a daily war, with the solar radiation management portion laid out for most to easily see, one only need to look up and watch the sky. For other ways they geoengineer, assault the earth and its life forms, one might begin with reading some Rosalie Bertell. Many have already been killed and harmed, unnoticed by most, by geoengineering. Businesses, houses and farms, land and forest lost. Fires. Floods. Drought, Cold. Heat. Chemicals Nanoparticles. And more. The geoengineering war, is tied in with the convid1911 and the climate change fraud. It is a silent crisis, a daily dreadful catastrophe that goes, largely, ignored. A conspiracy theory that the psychopaths conspire to do openly in the future; the weird, fake science will say, and is already saying, “we must do this to save the earth”.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/call-mother-earth-humanity/5755749

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 15, 2021 7:11 AM
Reply to  fame

Fame, the chemtrails started again here in Central Coast CA about 5 days ago. Previously I’d not seen them in many months. Something’s up, don’t know what. It’s my understanding that they are able to stall an existing weather pattern, keep it from moving.

But that they can’t necessarily simply create weather from scratch. I assume the long hiatus in chemtrails is just there was too much public notice of it. So I don’t know why it’s resumed now.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Sep 15, 2021 6:47 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Quite a pause here on pirate island uk. No cover from commercial flights? What really gets on my goat is that most people don’t even see them when they ARE there.

Penelope
Penelope
Sep 15, 2021 10:05 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Nixon, no these chemtrails were the wrong time, and the wrong sky quadrant to be covered by the commercial passenger or freight pretext. However they lasted for only two days, and were remarkable only in that they’d be absent for so long.

Of course if they’re chemtrailing after dark and at high altitude we wouldn’t know. The resultant overcast looks like normal overcast. Sky has in fact been that gray-blue that was present for so many months at the height of chemtrails. Can’t be pollution here & we have a strong off-shore wind. But I’m not a meteorologist– cd be a natural explanation.

Big al
Big al
Sep 14, 2021 9:39 PM

Well, I’ve always thought that saying that “trillions are missing” and the question of where’d the money go (as she says something about building a parallel government or something) is sensationalist bullshit along the lines of QAnon stuff. It gives those that know nothing about the US budget the assumption that someone has siphoned off trillions of dollars from the US budget for nefarious purposes. I’ve not seen any evidence of where that supposed money went and it certainly doesn’t match up with total DOD budgets during those years minus known imperialist operating costs. I don’t doubt the existence of black budgets, but this was an issue of accounting, not being able to account for those large sums of money because of the lack of auditing, which was rampant in the government not just DOD. Certainly a serious issue that could have led to major accounting dirty deeds, but not as some are painting it.

That’s how I understand it anyway, which doesn’t take a thing away from my view on 9/11, i.e., clearly a false flag event for various reasons. But whatever, I just think it should be understood properly and not just in terms of “missing trillions”.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Sep 14, 2021 11:25 PM
Reply to  Big al

If you were told where most of the money went, even from God itself, you would reject it as unbelievable.

Big al
Big al
Sep 15, 2021 2:23 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

The money didn’t go anywhere el G., that’s the point. It was spent, they just can’t say exactly on what.

Justin
Justin
Sep 15, 2021 4:40 AM
Reply to  Big al

We know where it didn’t go: healthcare, infrastructure, housing for the poor, education etc etc etc. But who gives a shit it was just an accounting error. We live in world of experts yet them experts can’t even count – funny that.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 15, 2021 12:27 AM
Reply to  Big al

“…those [who] know nothing about the US budget…” That won’t include you then, al? You understand these things better than Catherine? She’s been demonstrating very visibly her stone-cold acumen about these things since before 11/9; and you?

Big al
Big al
Sep 15, 2021 2:18 AM

Actually I have done studies on the DOD budget from ten years prior to 9/11 to 10 years after and of the entire US budget for ten year periods. I’m a trained analyst who worked for the federal government for over 30 years. I have just as much right to say what I’ve researched as Fitts does. She’s being sensationalist for her own self interest.
Some people on here are reacting like the covidiots do when presented information that doesn’t fit their neat little views. Same thing only different. Figures.

Justin
Justin
Sep 15, 2021 4:50 AM
Reply to  Big al

That would make you an expert and an insider – and you don’t have a clue how the money was spent, mmmm.

Big al
Big al
Sep 15, 2021 5:33 AM
Reply to  Justin

No, I didn’t work for DoD so I don’t know how they spent their money. And “insider”, give me a break. Are you saying all federal government employees, all 2. something million of them, are insiders? I was a citizen who chose in 1980, after serving in the US military (I’m a Vietnam era vet), to take a job with the federal government. I stayed with it and ended up retiring. You got a problem with that?

David
David
Sep 15, 2021 1:09 AM
Reply to  Big al

Obviously you have greater experience and expertise in government finance & accounting than Fitts. So instead of calling her reporting “sensationalist bullshit”, with nothing to back it up, how about some substance beyond the cowardly “I’ve not seen any evidence…” BS.
What I see in your remarks Al is a profound cluelessness and disrepect for a veteran champion of justice & accountability and one of the highest-level federal government whistleblowers in US history.

Big al
Big al
Sep 15, 2021 4:17 AM
Reply to  David

Here you go David. This explains it better than I did. All I was saying is that it’s misleading to say there was 21 trillion, or whatever, missing. It wasn’t missing, it was unaccounted for because of a fucked up, maybe intentionally, accounting and audit system, that’s a big difference. The total DOD budget during that period was nowhere 21 trillion, but I’m sure you know that.

How $21 Trillion in U.S. Tax Money Disappeared. “Full Scope Audit” of the Pentagon – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization

David
David
Sep 15, 2021 7:06 AM
Reply to  Big al

We see those stories quite differently, Al. I don’t see them as explaining anything. They’re just describing game-playing. In response to weak attempts to audit the DOD, the DOD is playing an extravagant shell game to make it impossible to follow the money. Just look at the scale of the supposed unaccounted-for “adjustments”: in one year, $50 in “adjustments” for every $1 in their budget. It’s not obvious to you that that’s a shell game to make the money impossible to follow?
I agree that it wouldn’t be accurate to say, based on the info in the article, that $35 trillion is “missing” for that year. And that’s not Fitts’ argument, either.

Judith
Judith
Sep 15, 2021 12:05 PM
Reply to  Big al

I’ve watched CAF for years. The way I understood the 21 trillion missing was that it was unaccounted for. The books were not balanced.

I have not watched this video yet but did she talk about Prof Mark Skidmore who did his own investigation about the missing trillions? He backs her up.

Big al
Big al
Sep 15, 2021 2:13 AM
Reply to  Big al

Look at that reaction to this comment. Fucking people are no different than those you’re complaining about. Not one below provided anything to contradict what I said. I worked for the U.S federal govt for over 30 years, I have studied the US budget, and what I said above is known fact. Look it the fuck up. Jesus. What a bunch of hypocrites.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Sep 15, 2021 3:06 AM
Reply to  Big al

Don’t be sore, Big A, if you go making Qanon analogies about this topic people will understandable react to this provocation. Why don’t you try linking to some sources to counter Austin Fitts’ position, which should be easy enough for you I guess? A2

Big al
Big al
Sep 15, 2021 3:24 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Ya, you’re right. I researched this a long time ago. And I am a 30 plus year government analyst (compensation, not budget). Probably could have done without that analogy though, in retrospect. But I’ve got a pet peeve about using the same tactics as our despicable opponents. When the truth is on your side, you don’t need to sensationalize, obfuscate, or make shit up. I’ll leave it at that, it’s easy enough for anyone to check out. This was not why they did 9/11.

David
David
Sep 15, 2021 5:38 AM
Reply to  Big al

I’m not trying to be mean Al, but you’re still talking nonsense. Who’s “using the same tactics as our despicable opponents”? Please explain.
I see a few people calling out bullshit, and that’s precisely the opposite of what ‘our despicable opponents’ do. Openly calling out bullshit is an essential element of debate in a free society. It’s ‘our despicable opponents’ who’ve banned honest debate because their feelings not getting hurt is more important to them than liberty.
Whomever starts with ad hominem attacks against Fitts in a group of intelligent, truth-loving people, anywhere in the world, is going to be met with aggressive challenges, because she’s earned that respect over many decades. Considering she survived years of vicious attacks by the feds to silence her and destroy her life, her story is about as vetted as it gets.
And if you made the effort to learn her story, I think you’d see that she’s plenty wize enough to understand that there’s lots more (than the missing &trillions) to the picture of ‘why they did 9/11’. The missing trillions is within her unique area of expertise and experience, so that’s what she focuses on. And for obvious reasons her analysis is tough to swallow for even a lot of people who say they know 9/11 was an ‘inside job’. Her analysis points straight at the reality that the criminal conspiracy that’s destroying this country is much more widespread than most patriotic Americans would like to believe. Imagining that 9/11 was done by some rogue element is so much easier than facing the fact that the US government is a criminal enterprise across-the-board, with every agency at every level covering for and enforcing for the mass murderers and robbers at the top. Those who still can’t see that in light of the past two years are beyond help.

ImpObs
ImpObs
Sep 15, 2021 9:19 AM
Reply to  Big al

When the truth is on your side, you don’t need to sensationalize

Vietnam vet…. Vietnam era vet

Missing…. unaccounted for

same difference no?

hotrod31
hotrod31
Sep 15, 2021 12:34 PM
Reply to  Big al

Of course it wasn’t … they only did it to prove that they were able to suspend the Laws of physics, for the day.

NickM
NickM
Sep 15, 2021 7:58 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Yes, Al, give us some of your known facts that shed light on the unaccounted Pentagon budget, especially around 9/11/2001. You say, “I have studied the US budget, and what I said above is known fact.”

David
David
Sep 15, 2021 3:40 AM
Reply to  Big al

It’s ‘known fact”? That’s a good argument to refute Fitts, Al. Did you find that on Wikipedia?
Thanks to countless ‘trained analyst who worked for the federal government for 30 years’, all with their heads up their asses in a cesspool of corruption and deceit, all tasked with covering for the status quo, rarely does any truth see the light of day. Now it’s obvious why you’d want to tear down Fitts. Those whisleblowers threaten to spoil the fake narrative that you government lovers need to sleep at night.

NickM
NickM
Sep 15, 2021 8:02 AM
Reply to  David

I don’t think Big Al is a Government Lover; but I have noted previously that he tends to react impulsively. No harm done, thanks to sharp OffG readers.

Researcher
Researcher
Sep 15, 2021 2:32 PM
Reply to  Big al

The tax money is siphoned offshore into private accounts. It’s not spent in “the budget“. States and federal government are so flush through CAFR they don’t even need taxes. But the corporate entities that own and manage the assets are not owned by “we the people”.

When the federal government (UNITED STATES CORPORATION COMPANY) needs money for expenditures they print more digitally through the Fed. To devalue the dollar. They hide the inflation through falsely weighted price adjustments of goods and services that don’t reflect the reality of people’s monthly living costs. They pump the digital dollars out into the markets using fake financial instruments and the shadow banking system, which hides the fraud. Which is why they have to change the major currency base every 70-100 years. And one reason why they are switching to a new digital system of CBDC.

The Fed has never been audited by any independent body. They basically audit themselves. Because all central banks (and most retail banks) are involved in the fraud. The accounting firms are involved in the fraud. The GAO. The ratings agencies. The Ombudsman. The entirety of government is completely fraudulent and corrupt. They are hiding a system of endemic crime and racketeering and use the media (which is run by the intel agencies and owned by the same central bank cartel) to pump out disinfo 24-7 using fake narratives to hide the truth and the extent of the fraud. The surface of our society appears legitimate, but what is going on underneath is a racketeering operation. Government is a scam. A shell game. The entirety of governments. All over the world. Not just the US. Which is why China and other countries hold so much US debt. Because it’s a worldwide system of fraud. The selections, are an illusive choice between good cop/bad cop. The votes are probably never even counted. The hierarchy of the system itself hides the real levers of control and the scam. And the non-transparency and lack of accountability within bureaucracies enables the scam to continue.

But no surprise to see disinfo and denial from someone with a Masonic symbol in their avatar.

Maiasta
Maiasta
Sep 14, 2021 9:31 PM