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9/11 and the Politics of Fear and Self-Preservation

Whitney Webb

The 20th anniversary of September 11, 2001 is a particularly somber one, not just because of the horrific nature of events of that day reaching its second-decade milestone, but because of how little we seem to have learned in that amount of time.

The fear and trauma generated by the events of 9/11 were used by the US national security state and its civilian allies to great effect to divide the American population, to attack independent reporting as well as independent thought, to gut the anti-war movement, and to normalize the US government’s overt and persistent degradation of the country’s Constitution.

This, of course, is in addition to the illegal US occupations and drone wars in the Middle East and elsewhere that were also born out of this event.

The true beneficiaries of 9/11

As a nation, the US populace has failed to grapple with these realities, and many others, in the two decades since the Twin Towers and WTC Building 7 fell.

Far from bringing any benefit to the alleged masterminds of the event, the results of 9/11 instead overwhelmingly favored the ambitions of a powerful faction within the US national security state that had long sought to bring the dissident-elimination efforts it spent decades implementing abroad – from the Phoenix Program in Vietnam to Operation Condor in South America – home to roost.

As a result, the response of the US government to the attack supposedly launched by those “who hate us for our freedom” was to work to reduce our freedoms and civil liberties.

Now, 20 years on, the sophisticated “War on Terror” apparatus has been fully turned into a “War on Domestic Terror,” with many of those who once opposed the war on terrorism abroad now cheering on the ratcheting up of its domestic equivalent.

Yet, the domestic terror apparatus being swiftly created and implemented very clearly targets individuals and ideologies on both sides of the political divide.

It is also extremely vague, essentially leaving it up to those holding the reins of political power – whether Democrat, Republican or something else – to decide who is “terrorist” and who is not. Perhaps unsurprisingly, it was Joe Biden back in the mid-1990s who introduced legislation that would have given the president sole and unappealable authority to define what constitutes “terrorism,” a fact that was omitted from media coverage of last year’s presidential campaign and the past several months of his presidency.

A crisis of courage

It seems clear at this point that one of the key reasons the US continues to hemorrhage its remaining civil liberties, either as a result of the new “War on Domestic Terrorism” or as a response to COVID-19, is that it is undergoing a crisis of conscience and courage in grappling with not just the true nature of the events of 9/11 itself, but with the orthodoxy over the “official story” of those events.

Even two decades after the fact, it is still deemed too controversial or unthinkable to question whether the official story is an accurate portrayal of the events that transpired on and led to that day.

This is despite the fact that the official story itself, presumably the same story told by the 9/11 Commission report, has been labeled incomplete, and unable to answer major questions about that day, by its very authors.

In addition, the official story relies heavily on testimony obtained through extreme torture, meaning it is of questionable accuracy.

Many of those who have been quick and vocal to point out the lies of the US government when it comes to the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq and other consequences of the War on Terror have been unable to even consider that the official story of 9/11 may not be legitimate and may indeed have been dealt from the same pack.

This may be for a variety of reasons, including a strong desire to not be de-legitimized by their peers as bearers of the “conspiracy theorist” smear and an unwillingness to face a political reality where US government officials may have been complicit in a deadly attack on American soil.

In those two examples, however, the failure of such individuals, particularly in media, to even consider that there may be more to the story boils down to a desire for self-preservation in the case of the former and preservation of a particular worldview in the case of the latter. Yet, in both cases, the casualty is the truth and the cause is cowardice.

By failing as a society to thoroughly examine the events of 9/11 and why those events occurred, the American public has shown the powers that be that their desire to preserve a “safe” worldview — and to preserve their own careers, in the case of certain professional classes — is enough to keep people from questioning world-altering events when they emerge. Those powers are well aware of this refusal and have been using it to their advantage ever since.

The poison remains in our system

Today, with the COVID-19 crisis still dragging on, we are similarly immersed in a situation where nuance and facts are being cast aside, militantly in some cases, in favor of the establishment narrative. Is everyone who chooses not to take this particular vaccine a “conspiracy theorist” and “anti-vaxxer”?

Does it really make sense to so dramatically divide the public into groups of vaccinated and unvaccinated through a new ID system when the vaccine claims to reduce the severity of illness but not to stop disease transmission? Should those that question the motivation of politicians, powerful pharmaceutical corporations and mainstream media “experts” be censored from expressing those views online?

You do not need to agree with those who hold such views, but what is wrong with hearing what they have to say and debating their evidence with your own?

We are losing the ability to have rational public discourse about these issues — and losing it swiftly, at a speed comparable to what took place in the aftermath of 9/11, when questioning the motives of the Bush administration, US intelligence agencies and other groups, as well as their proposed responses and “solutions,” was deemed “unpatriotic” and even “treasonous” by some.

Calls were made to strip an entire class of Americans of their freedom for merely sharing the same ethno-religious identities as those we were told attacked us, and many went along with it. Freedom became treated as a privilege only for certain groups, not as a right, and this insidious fallacy has reared its head yet again in recent months in relation to the COVID-19 vaccine debate and also the war on domestic terror.

Our pandemic of fear

Though the failure to consider explanations for 9/11 that deviate from the official story can be called cowardice, the most enduring lesson 20 years on from 9/11 is perhaps that fear was and remains the most powerful tool that has been consistently used to whittle down our freedom and civil liberties.

While the divide-and-conquer strategies have raged on from 9/11 to the present, the largest wealth transfers in history have occurred, creating an unaccountable and ultra-wealthy super-elite that dominates an ever-growing underclass.

The march towards this de facto neo-feudalism certainly didn’t begin on or after 9/11, but our collective failure to grapple with the narrative orthodoxies of that day have prevented us from fully understanding the big picture of that event as well as many subsequent and similarly consequential events.

For too long, the desire to preserve our self-image, our reputation, and the worldview we are taught in school has all too often made hard, difficult truths a casualty.

In order to truly understand the War on Terror, the domestic surveillance state and our current reality, we must accept that we were lied to about 9/11. We must ask the hard questions and accept hard truths. We must put an end to the 20-plus-year-long pandemic of fear over “invisible enemies,” fear that has pushed us to surrender the very freedoms that we are told we are protecting.

The United States, and much of the world, is quickly becoming an unrecognizable and authoritarian dystopia. We cannot wait another two decades to grapple with the difficult questions and realities that arose after 9/11 and persist into the present.

We will either be remembered as a country that took freedom and liberty for all seriously or we will be remembered as a nation of cowards who, driven by fear, were willing to deprive this group, then that group, of their freedom — before losing that freedom entirely.

Originally published by Mintpress News
Whitney Webb has been a professional writer, researcher and journalist since 2016. She has written for several websites and, from 2017 to 2020, was a staff writer and senior investigative reporter for MintPress News. She currently writes for her own outlet Unlimited Hangout and contributes to The Last American Vagabond and MintPress News

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plasos
plasos
Oct 1, 2021 12:37 AM

In his 1988 follow-up text, Comments on the Society of the Spectacle, Debord introduces a third form: the integrated. As its name suggests, the integrated spectacle is a combination of diffuse and concentrated elements. Debord bleakly concludes that the integrated spectacle now permeates all reality. “There remains nothing, in culture or nature, which has not been transformed, and polluted according to the means and interests of modern industry,” he writes. Today, the integrated spectacle continues to provide abundant commodities while defending itself with the use of misinformation and misdirection. According to Debord, it does this primarily through the specter of terrorism: Such a perfect democracy constructs its own inconceivable foe, terrorism. Its wish is to be judged by its enemies rather than by its results. The story of terrorism is written by the state and it is therefore highly instructive. The spectating populations must certainly never know everything about terrorism,… Read more »

duke
duke
Sep 27, 2021 6:19 PM

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James Charles
James Charles
Sep 25, 2021 11:50 AM

“9/11 CNN Pentagon Report – NO PLANE – Only Aired Once 00:00 actually was bob franken with and  00:01 eyewitness who said it appeared that  00:03 that Boeing 757 the American jet  00:06 American Airlines jet landed short of  00:09 the Pentagon can you give us any better  00:12 idea of how much of the plane actually  00:13 impacted the building you know it might  00:16 have appeared that way but from my  00:18 close-up inspection there’s no evidence  00:20 of a plane having crashed anywhere near  00:22 the Pentagon the only site is the actual  00:26 side of the building that’s crashed in  00:27 and as I said the only pieces left  00:30 that you can see are small enough that  00:32 you could pick up in your hand there are  00:34 no large tail sections wing sections a  00:37 fuselage nothing like that anywhere  00:39 around which would… Read more »

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Sep 25, 2021 1:44 PM
Reply to  James Charles

Shills like Ryan Dawson will set you straight on the Pentagon. Coz he’s a mmmmmmassive shill.

John Gabriel Otvos
John Gabriel Otvos
Sep 24, 2021 4:42 PM

As with Covid-19 as with 9/11. The number sequence 911, is an emergency response code for North America, i.e., Canada, USA & MX. The 3-no sequence is different for the UK=999; for the EU=112; yet for Saudi Arabia…take a guess>>>911! So, if the inside job aficionados wanted to burn a number sequence into the brains of the sheeple, take a good guess at what they might select, eh?

Thom1111
Thom1111
Sep 25, 2021 10:12 PM

What you are saying was obvious at the time. Clearly a psyop.

TFS
TFS
Sep 24, 2021 1:06 PM

The Politcis of Obedience, written in 1552 By Etienne de La Boetie

Free download:
https://mises.org/library/politics-obedience-discourse-voluntary-servitude

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Sep 25, 2021 1:51 PM
Reply to  TFS

Thanks. Downloaded. Will add it to my gargantuan reading list.

plasos
plasos
Oct 1, 2021 12:35 AM
Reply to  TFS

Boetie, I also have other work of him in my list: Diacourse On the Voluntary Servitude, seems good by the title.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Sep 24, 2021 10:31 AM

On 9/11 those who “hated us” for our freedom were: multinational corporations, Wall Street, the security state, and uber-wealthy international financiers. Today, we can include big tech (a branch of the security state) and big pharma in this bouillabaisse of despots. Whenever an event of major proportions occur there’s a good chance it’s a “security state shenanigan.” And if these shenanigans are permitted to occur without prolonged public outrage resulting in humiliting litigation or mortifying political consequences then the public has given the sociopaths a “green light” to escalate abuse on a willing population. That’s why it’s imperative to analyze every “official narrative” and if there’s “overt contradictions” immediately pushback against the lies which subsequently result in needless wars or in psychological terror campaigns at home. The more “blantant untruths” populations are willing to accept the more the powerful will dish-out. Citzens will inevitably become little more than “Stockholm Syndrome… Read more »

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 24, 2021 7:06 AM

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Diego
Diego
Sep 24, 2021 3:34 AM

Ms. Webb gives a rather socio-psychological analysis of Americans and American society’s action and reaction to 9-11 and puts Americans to task and ask the questions why and how. Very valid and much needed. She also points out the corruption and power-hungry of American political structures and aims. Very valid as well. She also, in passing, states that the beneficiaries of such events and aftermath are those belonging to an elite of Americans. Valid as well, if misguided. And yet, where does Israel and Zionism appear anywhere in Ms. Webb’s analysis? She could have very well said the same things about Israelis and Zionists. Just substitute Israelis and Zionists for Americans in the three points above and they will still be valid. I suspect it would be too much to ask from Ms. Webb. Not because of her lack of investigative means or powerful resources, of course. Expecting her to… Read more »

niko
niko
Sep 23, 2021 11:18 PM
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 24, 2021 12:30 AM
Reply to  niko

Not only does fear grease the wheels of the transition to fascism by cultivating fearful, controlled, pacified, cowed citizens, but it also embeds itself in our very DNA so that we pass on our fear and compliance to our offspring. It’s called epigenetic inheritance, the transmission through DNA of traumatic experiences. For example, neuroscientists have observed how quickly fear can travel through generations of mice DNA. As The Washington Post reports: In the experiment, researchers taught male mice to fear the smell of cherry blossoms by associating the scent with mild foot shocks. Two weeks later, they bred with females. The resulting pups were raised to adulthood having never been exposed to the smell. Yet when the critters caught a whiff of it for the first time, they suddenly became anxious and fearful. They were even born with more cherry-blossom-detecting neurons in their noses and more brain space devoted to… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Sep 24, 2021 3:14 AM

And we all know how trustworthy the Washington Post is.

someone
someone
Sep 24, 2021 1:16 PM

So of all the mass tragedies, warfare and fear events in human history passed genetically its obvious from above that there is the one true event (TM) which must stand out.

Must be prepping for reparations for their offspring through genetically passed trauma.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 23, 2021 11:11 PM

Victoria, Aus: Andrews/police/FaceSpook block livestreaming of mass demonstrations and cop violence.

Nurses and teachers announce intention to join protests.

https://twitter.com/TJ0057/status/1440999757078573057

simon crow
simon crow
Sep 24, 2021 12:20 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

I hope this coming together and rise of the common people spreads to Canada.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 24, 2021 5:39 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Troop carriers, heavily-armed & armoured robocops, and now soldiers (? men in green/khaki uniform) are out in force in Melbourne, intimidating & arresting demonstrators, or trying to. (They are fighting back.) Vic. govt has now also forbidden the media to use helicopters. They don’t want any of this shown to the world. We now have an operational apartheid system in most European countries. The Vax Pass is a reality. The unjabbed are barred from restaurants, pubs, clubs, concert halls, theatres, cinemas, museums, libraries & most shops, and many have already been sacked from their jobs or “forced to resign”. For over 18 months now, masks have been compulsory on buses, trains & planes, and in supermarkets. People have been trained to accept it. De facto, it’s the new normal. Pfizer, Moderna & co. are making a killing. Their profits & share prices are skyrocketing. Bezos & Gates are richer than… Read more »

2DIFF
2DIFF
Sep 24, 2021 12:02 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Yes, we definitely can. And with it comes mass maiming and mass murder.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 24, 2021 1:16 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

“The richest billionaires will soon be trillionaires.”

If so, they’ll join those who have been at the game for longer, with far broader interests than cloud operators and e-tailers.

Broader and deeper control of society – for what’s deeper than centuries of control of debt.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Sep 26, 2021 12:35 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

I called it a global economic and social engineering operation. We are both right!

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Sep 29, 2021 2:27 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

You did and you still can.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Sep 24, 2021 9:00 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Nurses and teachers, alright!

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Sep 23, 2021 10:36 PM

9/11 is a generation away now and even when it happened few believed the governments various tales of who did it . Today most of us could care less about it and trying to intertwine that event with what is going on today is a fools errand at best .

Howard
Howard
Sep 24, 2021 3:19 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Since everything is connected on some level (maybe a quantum level?), it is no more foolish to consider a connection between 911 and COVID than between any two other events bearing similarities and displaying the same fingerprints.

lotuseater
lotuseater
Sep 24, 2021 4:50 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

The criminal fraud of 9/11 is a precursor to the criminal fraud of Covid 19…

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 24, 2021 5:59 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

“Today most of us could care less about it and trying to intertwine that event with what is going on today is a fools errand at best.”

People like you could not possibly care less about the murderous scam that was 9/11. It’s due in large part to such care-nothings that the even more grotesquely mendacious Covid Coup has succeeded as easily as it has.

Twenty years’ training in passivity, careerism, selfishness, moral cowardice and wilful ignorance have not passed without consequence. Clown World wasn’t built in a day.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Sep 24, 2021 6:02 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

There is an element of obsessing over how and why the stable door came to be open, while the horse has long bolted, run rampage and caused irrevocable damage.

Better to worry about retrieving the horse, the damage the horse has done and how to go about repairing it (if that’s even possible this side of heaven).

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 23, 2021 10:35 PM

“Nobody Expects the Scum Rebellion.”
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“Its chief weapon is TRUTH.”

simon crow
simon crow
Sep 23, 2021 10:56 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

I want a tee-shirt with scum rebellion on it.
A great name for a band i want to play my lectric-mando with.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Sep 24, 2021 8:35 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Scum rebellion hey? It’s in the paper therefore it’s true.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 25, 2021 5:47 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Scum doesn’t bubble up from below, it floats serenely on top.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Sep 24, 2021 8:35 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

That ABC hack Lipson was in the USA when the ”pandemic” hit NY, he flatly refused to look at any facts, just the ABC talking points

Hersh
Hersh
Sep 23, 2021 9:53 PM

The only way to believe the 9/11 narrative is to want to believe it, it’s that absurd. Remember the cartoon of bin Laden’s cave fortress that Tim Russert showed Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld on Meet the Press? Rumsfeld’s answer was that bin Laden had several caves like that. The fact of that MTP exchange alone should have exploded the 9/11 narrative. What kind of intelligence did they have to say bin Laden did it when they thought he had those super caves? I mean, it is asinine https://www.reddit.com/r/PropagandaPosters/comments/omnuey/osama_bin_ladens_cave_complex_tora_bora/ In conversation, many people have doubts that we have the truth about 9/11 but they won’t take the next step. Same for the “raid” that killed bin Laden and gave his body a “respectful burial at sea.” If I don’t believe a story, I don’t believe it but I have learned that many people can believe and disbelieve at the same time.… Read more »

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Sep 23, 2021 10:42 PM
Reply to  Hersh

Getting together suicide squads and hijacking airliners was not a big deal at the time especially when religion is involved when the regime in power is corrupt to the core and occupied in lining their own pockets at the expense of national security.

New Name
New Name
Sep 24, 2021 4:20 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Airliners ?

New Nane
New Nane
Sep 24, 2021 11:42 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

No airliner had been hijacked in the decade before 9/11 in America.

Aethelred
Aethelred
Sep 25, 2021 11:11 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

No big deal getting the USAF to stand down with four hijacked airliners in the sky. Just takes one phone call.

Willem
Willem
Sep 23, 2021 7:59 PM

Thought this is a pretty good one.
And true too
Big Brother, well, maybe…
Big Botherers: all over the place

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Corarden
Corarden
Sep 23, 2021 10:11 PM
Reply to  Willem

Botherer? Should that not be ‘Big Murderer’? One of the main Harry Potter actors just collapsed on the golf course…he looked like crap when they loaded him on the golf cart. I wonder what it could be?

Maiasta
Maiasta
Sep 24, 2021 1:37 AM
Reply to  Corarden

That is Tom Felton. Your guess might be correct. Here he is (in May, i think) promoting the shot to Santa Clara county teens. Hard to believe he’d be doing this if he hadn’t been jabbed himself:

https://m.facebook.com/scccap/videos/143101101132533/?refsrc=deprecated&locale2=ne_NP&_rdr&_se_imp=0oGkL3UHzmQt6QYAm

Doctortrinate
Doctortrinate
Sep 23, 2021 10:33 PM
Reply to  Willem

a few of the warnings.
1949 – Nineteen Eighty-Four, George Orwell.
1931 – Brave New World, Aldous Huxley. 1920 – We, Yevgeny Zamyatin. 1906 – The Iron Heel, Jack London
….that the Living Dead Ignored, buried under a happy Ignorance. And if ’twere all and iceberg, Convid would be nothing more than the cherry at it’s peak,

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 23, 2021 7:45 PM

We are losing the ability to have rational public discourse about these issues … I would say that with Event Covid, there has simply been no debate at all relayed by the mainstream and any debate outside the mainstream was effectively blocked off by the initial lockdown which separated everyone from everyone else. I can relate my own experience here. With lockdown, I could no longer work at my place of work. I was assigned to “working from home” – which is a total joke for one whose work is supposed to be interacting with disabled people. Then came re-allocation to residential work in which the very nature of the job meant working by yourself most of the time. Throughout this whole periods, I kept imagining the conversations I could have with my workmates and how I could have perhaps sparked some intelligent querying amongst them. Indeed, some of them made… Read more »

Orthus
Orthus
Sep 23, 2021 9:09 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Not just work but the after work watering hole was also closed. Even when cafes were open, when fast food dives dealing in the kind of food which we were told causes ill health, the good old pub was shut. And why would they close the place where, possibly after a couple of pints, someone would put his elbow on the bar and proclaim, “‘Ere, wotcha fink of this Covid bollocks, eh?”

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 24, 2021 7:32 AM
Reply to  Orthus

The media is indeed a jealous deity. “You shall have no gods but me!”

Jan J
Jan J
Sep 24, 2021 7:41 AM
Reply to  George Mc

This is a brilliant comment and observation. Isolate and reprogram, works best when your victims can’t adjust their perception of reality with other People. If people were free to mingle as before, they would have called it “bollocks” I’m sure

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 23, 2021 7:30 PM

On the topic of the US national security state bringing dissident-elimination efforts (Phoenix Program in Vietnam, Operation Condor in South America) home to roost, this only goes to show that the true distinction is not drawn in terms of nationality or culture. The rulers are not bound to one place and have no loyalty at all to any tradition – not even that hallowed Western civilization that gets such a big trumpeting from the conservatives. They view their “fellow Americans” with the same contempt or, worse still, the same indifference, with which they view those yellow and brown folks abroad. And they would dismiss the riches of the past from Homer to Beethoven and beyond with the merest shrug. All they care about is themselves and the abysmal gap they must maintain towards the scum below.  

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 24, 2021 1:39 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Even for Edward Snowden’s disclosures, USAns were only appalled that their government spied on them too, besides the foreigners

Vagabard
Vagabard
Sep 23, 2021 6:48 PM

Talking of fear… …apparently we all need to grow up. Like wayward teenagers reaching 16 (the Age of Consent), dealing with climate change is a rite of passage. https://news.sky.com/story/cop26-boris-johnson-urges-humankind-to-grow-up-and-come-of-age-at-glasgow-climate-change-summit-12414696 Kermit the frog was wrong to suggest it’s not easy being green (link). ‘We have the technology’, after all (shades of the ‘The Bionic Man’). But there’s a problem. It’s not easy to ramp up fear of what the planet may be like a million years from now. Ask yourself honestly, are you worried about what the planet may be like in a million years after you are ‘long gone’? It doesn’t have that immediate sense of fear, like a deadly virus that lurks on banknotes, but not on Amazon parcels. So perhaps an energy crisis would work better in ramping up that immediate sense of fear. The fear of rising energy bills. The fear of your energy company going bust.… Read more »

JWK
JWK
Sep 23, 2021 6:23 PM

The state of fear reduces us to our most primitive consciousness. The lizard brain. Where fight or flight are the only options. Most choose flight, to our hiding space, under our beds. If someone tries to drag us out, by explaining the truth, then the fight option begins. Hence the RAGE against the “truthers” and the “antivaxxers” and the unmasked. The truth? The powers that be are nearly all controlled by sociopaths or worse. They do not have the ordinary human virtues of compassion, charity, sympathy, remorse, guilt, etc. They can however understand them enough to use them for their own purposes, against those of us who do have them. Those in charge are quite literally insane. One can understand this and live accordingly, or deny it and spell their own doom, along with ours.

NoThanks
NoThanks
Sep 23, 2021 8:14 PM
Reply to  JWK

There are actually two other states induced by fear. Fight, flight, freeze, or fawn. Interesting chart to look at and think about those who you know personally, their personality types, and how they’ve reacted in the last 18+months. comment image

Judith
Judith
Sep 24, 2021 12:54 PM
Reply to  NoThanks

Can you be all of these?

DavidW
DavidW
Sep 23, 2021 10:38 PM
Reply to  JWK

“Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we’re being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I’m liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That’s what’s insane about it.”
– John Lennon
John Lennon: “The world is run by insane maniacs!”
*
Just as he was to become a trusted and beloved elder cultural statesman…a lone nut gunman coincidentally murdered him.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 23, 2021 6:09 PM

This, of course, is in addition to the illegal US occupations and drone wars in the Middle East and elsewhere that were also born out of this event.

Christ it shits me when people talk about “illegal” US acts as if “International Law” actually means something.

Howard
Howard
Sep 23, 2021 5:18 PM

Here’s some proof that fear can also be a good thing. It presents a problem with the infamous CRISPR technology which may have caused some investors to back off.

Yay!!!!!

https://www.globalresearch.ca/chromothripsis-bad-news-gene-editing/5756625

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Sep 23, 2021 8:33 PM
Reply to  Howard

The fact that the damage occurs “on-target” – at the intended edit site – means that any attempts to target the CRISPR gene editing more precisely will not solve this problem, as pointed out in the Nature Biotechnology article by one of the researchers on the study, David Pellman of the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and Harvard Medical School. He said, “You cannot make this go away by making the cutting more specific.”The major worry with chromothripsis in therapeutic settings is that it can lead to cancer or an inherited disease in any children of the affected patient. It would only take a single cell to be affected by chromothripsis to result in a cancer.While an expert interviewed for the Nature Biotechnology article is upbeat about the ability of the gene editing field to “innovate its way around” this and any other problems that arise from CRISPR processes, the researchers on… Read more »

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Sep 29, 2021 3:45 AM
Reply to  Howard

Thanks I didn’t have this summarized as well as it is here.

Anne
Anne
Sep 23, 2021 4:33 PM

We all know who the real children of God is it’s the ones that’s been persecuted for thousands of years used and abused.Look to who they persecute the most and cause disruption there lies your answer.

jude
jude
Sep 23, 2021 4:25 PM

The majority of people, when faced with a choice of either believing in repetitive nonsense or having to admit they don’t know, will take repetitive nonsense every time. It’s smarter to have an answer, even if it’s completely false. We’re like monkeys. We love familiarity. We love knowing the answer to anything. We love to say we read it, we saw it, we were there, we had the virus and let me tell you ‘it’s no joke man’. Why else would we listen to the same songs over and over, get an adrenaline surge when we see a celebrity, attest to being at Woodstock by the tens of millions when only 500k were actually there, or say we had Covid, but “just glad we got the shot!”? It’s too scary and lonely, pioneering new trails. Most people prefer a path that looks worn and safe. And the biggest fear of… Read more »

NoThanks
NoThanks
Sep 23, 2021 8:26 PM
Reply to  jude

Well said, from beginning to end. Reminded me of ol’ Socrates. The wisest man in Athens simply because he could admit his ignorance on topics rather than pretend to know something he didn’t. I have a hunch that Socrates would think twice about eating Hot Pockets.

Justin
Justin
Sep 23, 2021 10:33 PM
Reply to  NoThanks

Poor old Socrates was forced to drink hemlock for thought crimes – corrupting the minds of the Athenian youth. So much for free and rational thought – the powers that be just hate that sort of stuff. “When the poison reaches the heart, that will be the end.” He was beginning to grow cold about the groin, when he uncovered his face (for he had covered himself up) and said, — they were his last words, — “Crito, I owe a cock to Asclepius ; will you remember to pay like debt?” “The debt shall be paid,” said Crito; “is there anything else?” There was no answer to this question; but in a minute or two a movement was heard, and the attendant uncovered him; his eyes were set, and Crito closed his eyes and mouth. Such was the end of our friend, whom I may truly call the wisest,… Read more »

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Sep 24, 2021 8:16 AM
Reply to  Justin

Socrates was a planned parenthood type of guy

Willem
Willem
Sep 23, 2021 4:22 PM

Off topic (although… everything’s related).

Here is Dutch politician, Thierry Baudet with a speech about the new world order, the dangers of ‘the vaccine’ and the apartheid that is introduced by the QR code shit. It starts around 10.50, because before he could even start with his speech, he first had to answer all sorts of questions about ‘the Holocaust’. Anyway he makes his speech, after which another politician says that Baudet’s words are awful. So Baudet says: ‘which words were awful? Please quote me.’

Politician: cannot say, they are too awful to repeat. To which Baudet answers: it’s like I am in a Kafka novel. I am accused of something but the accusers do not say what I am accused of!

It’s all political, yet brilliant. Here is the speech (in Dutch..) https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=vn2pyEnRyF0&feature=emb_logo

Willem
Willem
Sep 23, 2021 4:28 PM
Reply to  Willem

I have to say, Baudet is pretty brave. 20 years ago we had a similar politician, Pim Fortuyn, very eloquent and who made all politicians of his day look like the fools that they were. For that he was demonized in the media in the political debate, everywhere, which didn’t stop Fortuyn becoming ever more popular. So he was killed in cold blood.

Theo
Theo
Sep 24, 2021 2:26 AM
Reply to  Willem

Here is the same Dutch politician: With Engliah subtitles!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na9HV21YKXI&t=136s
Dutch Minister Thierry Baudet on the Rockefeller foundation’s plan! With English subtitles!

Judith
Judith
Sep 24, 2021 1:06 PM
Reply to  Theo

Wonderful. Thanks for the link.

Would that congressperson in the good ole USA would stand up and say the same.

rob2
rob2
Sep 24, 2021 4:51 PM
Reply to  Theo

Another good find! Thank you!

In the one Willem posted, his website is in the video description which leads to the transcript of the most recent speech which I copy/pasted into Deepl Translator (a pain as the free version has a 5000 character limit and so I worked/read by segments, but very much worth it).

Corarden
Corarden
Sep 23, 2021 4:19 PM

Just stumbed across this…and there is a second part to the video on the same page.

It is profoundly moving. There is hope. Believe this will end, because it will.

https://twitter.com/TheJuggernaut88/status/1440653490733207569

simon crow
simon crow
Sep 23, 2021 7:23 PM
Reply to  Corarden

Yes it is moving and i learned something too.

Corarden
Corarden
Sep 23, 2021 10:25 PM
Reply to  simon crow

Me too Simon, me too

May Hem
May Hem
Sep 23, 2021 10:25 PM
Reply to  Corarden

Brilliant speaker. Australia’s Indigenous people are fighting back. They know all about genocide.

https://www.carranya.org/

strange
strange
Sep 23, 2021 4:12 PM

The americans (yes the americans) jailed J. Assange because he showed the world that Spreading-Democracy is a deceptive descriptor for butchering humans and countries the US doesn’t like.

Now, american army generals admitted PUBLICALLY to butchering innocent civilians by remote control.

Shouldn’t Assange be set free as what he uncovered is now officially recognised as indisputable fact?

strange
strange
Sep 23, 2021 3:44 PM

“The fear and trauma generated by the events of 9/11 were used* by the US national security state and its civilian allies to …..”

We have learnt, the events and the generated fear were created (as well as used) by the security apparatus, haven’t we?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 23, 2021 3:17 PM

“Of course they’re laughing. They’ve got us scrutinizing the trees while they encircle the forest,” as James Corbett said in his latest video featured on Off-G three days ago. I try not to sound like a grouch but I bang on about it: let’s move beyond articles that restate what we know. All of us, whether we chat, post, comment, write newsletters, record our voices or edit video, we are all part of a flourishing online ecology. Everyone in the new media needs to raise their game: better networking to ensure our survival; ever-better storytelling to whup the old media even harder. Self-proclaimed ‘trusted voices’ — the state-corporatist media — are not planning to play nice. Online Safety Bills will hire them as plumbers, their hands on the spigots and sluice gates that restrict the flow of ideas. Britain and Canada are planning to empower the corporate media as state… Read more »

simon crow
simon crow
Sep 23, 2021 4:27 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I saved the link to read more leisurely later.
Thank you.

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Sep 23, 2021 6:35 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

V true MC. I thought it was just the current ‘lull’ that was causing these endless repetitions. Personally I scan the articles and only come here for comments and links to something more insightful

Vagabard
Vagabard
Sep 23, 2021 6:55 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

There is some value in repetition, but yes, better to progress the story, than being caught in a stuck record.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Sep 23, 2021 10:51 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Canada’s 3 media corps have been that countries censors since the Mulroney era . Their is no Off Guardian like site in Canada However RT which supports the fake plague propaganda is available on cable or Internet and appears to be the limit of controversial subjects allowed.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 24, 2021 1:27 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

RT was launched during the George W. Bush era when Dubya could ‘see’ into Putin’s soul – or at least into his Lada’s glovebox. Ketchum, a deep state public relations consultancy, advised the Russian government to reach a broader global audience. There was already an English-language international TV service but staffed by Russians. RT broke the mold by hiring mostly English graduates fresh out of journalism school. They were soon joined by Irish and Australians — there is a cultural angle there which I need to explore. A former Reuters bureau chief was the adviser. You can read about Reuters at the Grayzone. After three years the Internet channel took off and the adoption was vertical. In retrospect, given what we know about Internet censorship one has to conclude that RT plays by the CIA-DARPA roolz or it wouldn’t be there. One wrinkle is to get your timeline right. RT… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Sep 24, 2021 3:40 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

We must focus and re-focus and yet again focus on the same two phenomena because they have brought the entire world to a standstill First 911 then COVID. Then silence.

A few barbs are flung at China or Russia or some other “bad” place. Then silence again.

These two events seem destined to become the last two events in human history.

“Who’s the last person you saw before they turned out the lights?” “I don’t know, he was wearing a mask.”

The world is wearing a mask. 911 and COVID are the last unmasked things anyone has seen.

DaveMass
DaveMass
Sep 23, 2021 2:49 PM

The US is behaving as other states have before, and now.
Just drop this ‘exceptional’ crap…

TFS
TFS
Sep 23, 2021 2:23 PM

Fear 101, starting to set in over oil, gas supplies, with some pointing the finger at Brexit.

What do they have planned for winter?

Here we go………..

peterpaul
peterpaul
Sep 23, 2021 2:55 PM
Reply to  TFS

What do they have planned for winter? I’ll have s stab; 5-10% of those jabbed may pass away giving rise to a “Covid-19 variant” (fill in whatever greek number you wish) that’ll be sold to us as deadly, deadly, deadly in the hope of getting those of us labelled anti-vaxxers to run into the warm embrace of the state. 5-10% will potentially be over a million. As for this shit around the supply of home energy and the rest, a lot is down to fucking brexit, coupled with a Tory government who gave us this crap under David ‘pig fucker’ Cameron and George ‘I like the blood to be as young as possible’ Osborne; it’s not as if any of what’s happening wasn’t talked about before the fucking vote, or is it a bloody Lefty failure! A common argument by some on this site. Corbyn fuckin’ chaos the anti-semite as… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Sep 23, 2021 1:29 PM

People can bear hearing and knowing they’ve been lied to by their leaders. What they can’t bear, and what stops them dead in their tracks from approaching the truth, is the realization that they were a willing part of the lie.

People cannot and will not accept that in order to improve the material quality of their own lives they were more than willing to sacrifice millions of innocents around the world.

The peoples of the “First World” have so much blood on their hands that, like Lady Macbeth, it will never come clean.

Mea Culpas are merely ceremonial globs of shit.

someone
someone
Sep 23, 2021 1:37 PM
Reply to  Howard

The largest victims are the residents of the first world. they have been doing it to themselves more than anyone else.

50 million alone in ww2. 15 million in WW1. For what?

Edith
Edith
Sep 23, 2021 5:58 PM
Reply to  someone

Well my guess we are about to match these numbers with whatever is rolling into the next 2/3 years….the planetary energy will deem it….I don’t intend to be included in those figures and suggest that is the major issue now for all who are aware

fame
fame
Sep 23, 2021 7:36 PM
Reply to  someone

11 million plus people starve to death every year because of the psycho corporate global criminals of the first world.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Sep 23, 2021 10:54 PM
Reply to  fame

The population will always rise to exceed the food supply , true when Malthus/Ricardo postulated it and true now. The numbers change but the game remains the same ?

fame
fame
Sep 24, 2021 7:55 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

There is no way the reason people are starving is because of peoples inability to grow, forage, or hunt food. Nature produces everything in abundance, including the growing of crops. Peoples land is stolen and they are purposely starved. Please see Nick M comment below, as regards to Malthus. You are either a shill or…

NickM
NickM
Sep 23, 2021 2:44 PM
Reply to  Howard

“It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they were fooled”. — Mark Twain

Edwige
Edwige
Sep 23, 2021 1:29 PM

It seems like a long time ago she was the darling of the anti-war left…

https://twitter.com/NikkiMcR/status/1440116953130143748

A CFR member turns out to be not anti-war after all and a pusher of the same homicidal insanity as before (providing the bombs are carbon-neutral and non-patriarchal). What a shock.

Corarden
Corarden
Sep 23, 2021 4:31 PM
Reply to  Edwige

There’s a surprise

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 24, 2021 1:33 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Gabbard is also one of Klaus Schwab’s WEF Young Global Leaders.

juno
juno
Sep 24, 2021 4:00 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

By Gabbard, do you mean Tulsi?

I wouldn’t trust her as far as I could throw her, she is not her own master, she belongs to WaiLana, Jagad Guru and the rest of the cult, poor little toenail water drinker…

I thought it funny that 3 out of 4 female VP picks laid before Biden (and his handlers, natch) had serious ties to cults. One was a
scientologist, one NOI, and then there was little Tulsi in her Hare Krishna spin-off cult. Kamala, as far as I can tell is not a cultie, but a star-fucker.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 23, 2021 12:36 PM

The Melbourne police assault of the 70 y.o. “woman” in red was clearly a staged operation. Given that it seemed to deflect from the other psyop (busting the line), I have no idea why they did it.

By Marty Focker
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/p27luEAnW1kW

Victorian Government & Police Staged False-Flag Event At Melbourne Protest (18th Sept 2021)
XANDREWX: Published at 13:26 UTC on Sep 19, 2021.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/1qhh0lVtk2hx

someone
someone
Sep 23, 2021 1:08 PM

1. it scares the hell out of normal people thinking about protesting.
2) it creates anger in the viewing population which can then be used as a heightened mechanism to inject narratives. (mainly this)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32900296/

https://www.finrafoundation.org/sites/finrafoundation/files/heightened-emotional-states-fraud-susceptibility.pdf

Heightened emotional manipulation is one the keys to inducing a change state to permanent alteration in viewpoints. They have been doing this crap for ever and are very good at it.

For everything on any media one thought must be used as an initial filter to alleviate button pushing:

“Why this? Why now?”

No matter how aligned with ones own views the initial information appears to be.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 23, 2021 1:21 PM
Reply to  someone

I agree with everything you say. However, they’ve had no problem terrorising ordinary, real people, so I don’t see the need for a staged psyop.

someone
someone
Sep 23, 2021 1:33 PM

I agree in some part. Staged stuff reduces the downstream consequences and complications somewhat. There is more control of the distribution, more importantly the timing of the exact effect you want to push and it has less chance of spinning out into something else. Timing is also very important as a feedback to the opinion management and you are controlling the landscape directly, rather than relying on happenstance. Really beating a 70 year old woman can lead to death quite easily (unlikely with younger men). Using fake photographers and getting some cop to really beat an old women just to capture on film is awkward to arrange on cue (but not impossible). Take the Ashley Babet staged shooting or numerous other obvious fake events. No deaths, no victim families. Quick film shoot then pack up and move on to the next thing. One could have incited the crowd and hoped… Read more »

gordan
gordan
Sep 23, 2021 1:52 PM

the stage was set if not before certainly at babylon
the actor supreme communicator
before the word the image
symbols
the power is in the image loop edited sequence continues loop

news feed tavistock trauma

some things are real reality must be deceived by satanist
so they shape the terrain
fear terror shock hive system
and the harvesting of

Mr Y
Mr Y
Sep 23, 2021 2:32 PM

“However, they’ve had no problem terrorising ordinary, real people, so I don’t see the need for a staged psyop.”

Good point I would say.

Croach
Croach
Sep 23, 2021 4:49 PM
Reply to  someone

Also it’s easier to demonize a protest movement and stop it becoming a broadly accepted or supported cause if it’s all young men.
The most successful protests of the late 19th/early 20th century protested as entire communities. Men, women and children.
The men would often go armed.

gordan
gordan
Sep 23, 2021 1:41 PM

i read somewhere the lady in red was 90
my guess 40 year un gladio dude

everything is image is image loop
everything is image loop
image loop
loop

Paul_too
Paul_too
Sep 23, 2021 2:13 PM

Don’t have links but London police did the exact same thing at the Trafalgar Square protest last October, elderly looking woman in a green coat. Analysis of video footage afterwards clearly showed it was staged, conclusion was the same, they were trying to deter the more timid among us through faked police violence.

Also, if they can get people in the crowd to react and start on the police thinking they are in fact preventing further violence towards helpless elderly women, the police have achieved the exact excuse they were after all along to go in full throttle and whack a few heads. I saw them try this approach multiple times earlier on last year, but nobody was biting, so my thinking was they were trying to provoke the protesters through their specialty; the sneaky underhanded dishonest approach to ‘law enforcement’.

rechenmacher
rechenmacher
Sep 23, 2021 4:33 PM
Reply to  Paul_too

Good point! I’m wondering about the new tatctic of German riot police. They will let the crowd pass and then all of a sudden pounce on someone who has clearly done nothing to incite this outburst of brutality. So I thought he or she might have been ‘in on it’, displaying a sign (bycicle, slogan on T-shirt, placard) for identification, get whacked, pocket some money and will not take the cops to court. Horrify the bystanders, seeding alternative media with the message: stay away from rallies. By the way I suspect that these evidently brutal cops aren’t even cops. After all the risk of being filmed and identified, lawsuits following, bad effects on career etc. would easily be circumvened if these were actually private contractors in police uniforms. I noticed a video where some of them were dragging away a guy they had set upon and one of them was… Read more »

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Sep 23, 2021 6:25 PM
Reply to  Paul_too

Yeah they are trying to incite violence and riot. They want chaos.

May Hem
May Hem
Sep 23, 2021 10:32 PM
Reply to  Paul_too

Wonder if it was the same “elderly woman” actor they used in Melbourne recently? Did you notice in the photo that his/her wig fell off? And how come the MSM and alernate media knew she was exactly 70? Was she interviewed?

Claret
Claret
Sep 24, 2021 2:18 AM
Reply to  Paul_too

In Amsterdam at a demo there was also a vid of a van pulling up, a bunch of 8 or so plain clothes getting out of the back, arresting someone, throwing them in the back of the van and then driving off very quickly. That also struck me as a bit odd as I just couldn’t figure out what it was about. There were also other reports of agitators being in the crowd, trying to provoke people. If you’re not aware of these tactics, you might easily mistake these incidents as being real.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 23, 2021 5:53 PM

“False-Flag Event”?

What, protesters disguised as cops beat her up?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Sep 23, 2021 9:41 PM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

No, a cop disguised as a protester got “beat up” by other cops.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 25, 2021 12:23 AM

Which, if true, still wouldn’t make it a “False-Flag Event”.

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Sep 29, 2021 5:12 AM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

It was granny whose identity was false and in league with the cops. That is a false flag event. Is the scenario difficult to grasp or is it something else?

Claret
Claret
Sep 24, 2021 2:04 AM

Strange indeed. Something I noticed in the second vid in your post(by XANDREWX) at 9:34, there’s a peculiar scene as a bloke (left of picture)with shades, wearing a navy blue shirt who walks off and says ‘Ow!ow! … my eyes’ then as he passes the camera, puts his shades down and says ‘Can’t see…’ and appears to be smiling as he does so.
Is it me or does it not seem a bit odd?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Sep 24, 2021 1:55 PM

Another takeaway:

The transexual agenda is a game the State plays.

When you see the guy’s shoulders it’s clear it’s not a 70 year-old woman. It is a policeman or actor dressed as a transvestite.

So boys-who-are-girls-who-are-boys, to paraphrase Blur, is not simply an individual condition/choice but a State strategy. Just as gender dysphoria is a policy in schools.

I’m not wrong. If it was just a matter of personal discovery the state would not be involved. A person’s identity has nothing to do with the government.

Mein Gott if you had asked Quentin Crisp if he wanted or needed official sanction to be who he was you would have got a cuff

Division is not enough. The State wants to disorient the population.

Having said that, the police are using a tactic of publicly attacking women and minorities to rile the public.

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Sep 29, 2021 5:18 AM

Bitchute doesn’t work with Firefox on Android. Weird.

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Sep 29, 2021 5:23 AM

I am able to open these links using FF on Android using a private tab. Still weird.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Sep 23, 2021 12:17 PM

Even two decades after the fact, it is still deemed too controversial or unthinkable to question whether the official story is an accurate portrayal of the events that transpired on and led to that day. Absolutely not. It is fine to talk about the events. There is no “official” narrative. There is what happened and there is what did not happen. As I said the other day. There is too much corruption and dishonesty in public life in the United States. The state machine is inherently paranoid. It fears it’s citizens. It is this paranoia that feeds the “War on Terror”. The Hollywood machine churns out rubbish year on year. Many Americans can no longer distinguish fact from fantasy. The media lies constantly to the people of America. Feeding them nonsense it is little wonder that a significant minority believe nothing that they say at all. It is the fault… Read more »

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 23, 2021 1:18 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Well John, your frothing irrationality about it certainly entertains us. Those of us naughty creatures who enjoy a spot of schadenfreude, anyway.

NickM
NickM
Sep 23, 2021 2:51 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Began to read then noticed name, and added my own automatic downmark to 8 previous downmarks.

Howard
Howard
Sep 23, 2021 3:12 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Many Americans can no longer distinguish fact from fantasy.

I believe it’s far worse than that. Many – if not most – Americans can no longer fathom why it matters if something is fact or fantasy.

nondimenticare
nondimenticare
Sep 23, 2021 5:40 PM
Reply to  Howard

That statement would, of course, encompass Chomsky’s remarks about 9/11.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 23, 2021 8:34 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Same old same old John Pretty Vacant, eh? I’ve responded to you so many times and got very little back. But then again you have already admitted that you don’t read responses to your posts. So I doubt if you’re reading this here. Oh well. I suggest that OffG add a little prelude to each of your posts:

We apologise for the breakdown. We are doing all we can to fix it. Meanwhile, here is some light music …  

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Sep 23, 2021 12:09 PM

Not to be rude but it would appear many on-line Americans will never register that day as past history.
In fact the vast majority of the internet is used in retrospect with intermittent ‘News Flash!’
I’ve just read elsewhere Denmark has removed all restriction, no masks back to normal, if normal will have the same meaning anymore who knows.

Over last twenty years some on-line ‘Nine- Revellers’ pop in and sit down at every important current event table, during a discussion.
Old days they’d be called a bore.

Matt
Matt
Sep 23, 2021 12:07 PM

As a historian and anthropologist, I have to say “neofeudalism” to describe what we’re heading too is very harsh on the early Middle Age’s aristocracy! It would be more appropriate to describe the system the PTB are implementing as “neoslavery”.

martin
martin
Sep 23, 2021 12:38 PM
Reply to  Matt

The Black Death and subsequent scarcity of labour and its consequences should be a warning to the Feudal Lords presumptive from what I read.

https://clas.ucdenver.edu/nhdc/sites/default/files/attached-files/entry_147.pdf.

Kika
Kika
Sep 23, 2021 10:12 PM
Reply to  martin

I suspect they plan to use robots and trance-humans to do the dirty and boring chores, and just enough obedient tradie/domestics to look after the small number of e-lights and their needs.

NickM
NickM
Sep 23, 2021 2:58 PM
Reply to  Matt

Yes, indeed. Ye olde nobs had noblesse oblige and honi soit qui mal y pense.

Today’s self styled Elite (fr.Elus, the Chosen) are chosen from the bottom drawer.

Kika
Kika
Sep 23, 2021 10:13 PM
Reply to  NickM

So who does the choosing?

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 23, 2021 11:43 AM

“In addition, the official story relies heavily on testimony obtained through extreme torture, meaning it is of questionable accuracy.”

No. It means that that (alleged) testimony is utterly worthless.

By the spooks’ own admission, they waterboarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed 183 times.
He probably confessed to the murder of Abe Lincoln. Who wouldn’t?

Twenty years on, that “9/11 Mastermind” (sic) is — so the CIA tells us — still in a dungeon in Guantanamo. No one but the Langley boys has ever been allowed to see him or speak to him. Does he actually exist? Is he still alive?

Why should anyone believe a word his torturers tell us? Why, exactly?

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 24, 2021 3:34 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

The article includes the phrase “extreme torture”, as if there is any other type. It reminds me of “illegal wars”.

Edwige
Edwige
Sep 23, 2021 10:12 AM

“They hate our freedoms” looks like another case of projection where the deep state takes its views/actions and projects them on to today’s enemy.

This isn’t Whitney Webb’s best piece and, as has already been noticed, isn’t really directed at the likely readeship here. This is what compatible leftists are more likely to be reading:

https://dumptheguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/22/leftwingers-far-right-conspiracy-theories-anti-vaxxers-power

Webb’s piece paralleling 9/11 and Covid through a bio-terror follow-up abandoned with the tracing of the origins of the first batch of anthrax is much better. Here she still seems stuck in a mindset that the soft-left media is ‘free’ and could write/publish “9/11 was an inside job” articles if only they’d recognise the truth. They are never going to write these things and certainly never going to publish them – they exist not to.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Sep 23, 2021 12:00 PM
Reply to  Edwige

That Monbiot article is the worst I’ve ever read by him, and God knows that’s saying something. Of course Groaniad readers will lap it up.

He certainly earns his keep.

David G. Horsman
David G. Horsman
Sep 29, 2021 7:29 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

That was definitely a junk article. The narrative he attempts to build is quite incoherent.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 23, 2021 10:11 AM

The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent” – J Edgar Hoover

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Sep 23, 2021 6:43 PM

Well Americans have been destroying all that is good and decent since Hoover’s time in the spot so they ought to have come face-to-face with it by now.

janet
janet
Sep 23, 2021 8:42 AM

From the comments in yesterday’s wsws article entitled “Australian anti-vaccine, extreme right demonstrators target construction industry”:

“Australia will be a second Florida with lots of these anti-vaxxers dying from Covid-19. The Delta variant has already proved to be quite insidious when it comes to anti-vaxxers.”

Thank god wsws is on our side!

Rob
Rob
Sep 23, 2021 11:11 AM
Reply to  janet

The extreme left is the extreme right and vice versa. Even Julian Assange said that 911 investigation is not a big deal and people don’t see that he’s a fucking tool too? https://youtu.be/zG23AyiIObk (and he said similar in 06? on democracy now…)
If we keep on believing in heroes, we are idiots.
The only reality is the one in front of your eyes.
Fuck the gatekeepers

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Sep 23, 2021 6:45 PM
Reply to  Rob

I saw a snippet of RFK Jr talking the talk on some daytime chatbox, maybe ‘the talk’ IDK, but at pertinent points he kept sliding one hand under the upper arm, i.e. hidden hand.

sid
sid
Sep 23, 2021 3:56 PM
Reply to  janet

Any questioning of the vaccine efficacy/safety, the PCR test, “alternative” therapies gets one piled on by other commenters.on wsws.org. I have been labelled a “Trump supporter” for doing so in the past. Any questioning of these matters undermines their perspective and gets shut down by gatekeeping Disquis commenters. As a result the comments are mostly monolithic and predictable. I have noticed that several astute commenters who used to contribute over there have migrated here, myself included.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 23, 2021 8:23 PM
Reply to  sid

I too migrated long ago. The WSW has been the most disgusting betrayer of all they supposedly stood for.

But then in retrospect the typical WSW article would follow this pattern: the main article might be interesting and even very penetrating (obviously this refers to their pre-covid output). But towards the end of the article we would get the inevitable  call for a unification of the masses (quite ironic considering the WSW’s frequent attacks on factions over pedantic disputes over the minutiae of that old “proper materialist interpretation”). And this would seem to act as a cue for the monotony of the comments consisting mostly of boilerplate delivery of the ossified old Marxist clichés. It was hard to avoid the impression that most of these comments were written by the same folks who wrote the main articles.

juno
juno
Sep 23, 2021 5:26 PM
Reply to  janet

Huh? I thought FL was doing OK. Like Sweden. Wat up?

ShivanSlayer
ShivanSlayer
Sep 23, 2021 7:41 PM
Reply to  juno

Florida, like all states in the US, around July was hit by a “wave” of so-called cases. The state has turned the corner on these positive PCR marks, sooner than others I believe. Of course, none of that matters when you have a narrative to promote.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 23, 2021 8:04 PM
Reply to  janet

I saw that comment and put my own in:

You clearly relish the prospect!

I’m not even going to go back and check if they post me. I know that’s kind of pathetic – like ringing a doorbell and running away. But I feel too much contempt for the original comment to let it go. And I know they won’t publish me anyway. Or maybe darling Carlyn Zaremba will shoot me down? I honestly don’t care.

Oh and it’s hard to miss that repulsive gloating sense of vengefulness displayed here toward covid sceptics and how it mirrors that “Christian” vengefulness that salivates over the idea of unbelievers rotting in hell forever.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 23, 2021 8:27 PM
Reply to  janet

But look on the bright side: The WSW article you refer to was written two days ago and so far carries only three comments (assuming they publish mine – of which see my other comment here.) This present OffG article was posted today and already carries 60 comments! I assume that the WSW is receiving bugger all for commentary – or, more likely, the comments they ARE receiving are not to their liking!

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Sep 23, 2021 8:32 AM

Seems a strange audience for this article to be presented to. Most people who regularly contribute BTL here knew years ago that the official 9/11 story was claptrap. There’s been plenty of seasons of evidence presented which points precisely to that.

This sort of article needs to be put in the MSM, because the people who still believe the official narrative mostly get their information there.

janet
janet
Sep 23, 2021 8:41 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Good idea. I’ve forwarded it to murdoch so it should appear later today.

Judith
Judith
Sep 23, 2021 1:14 PM
Reply to  janet

Good one!

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Sep 23, 2021 10:50 PM
Reply to  janet

OG should add an LOL button.