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George Monbiot’s Far-Right Projection In seeking to attack Covid sceptics as modern day Nazis, the veteran eco-warrior endorses ideas taken straight from the fascist hymn sheet.

Ian Jenkins

George Monbiot is shocked.

But what has shocked George is not the rising tide of poverty and starvation in the world or the unprecedented transfer of wealth to a tiny number of oligarchs.

He is not shocked by the practical collapse of the rule of law or by the brutal actions of police officers in nations claiming to be liberal democracies.

It is possible that these things shock him as well, but if so, there is no sign of this in his recent article for the Guardian.

No. Monbiot is shocked by “leftwingers” being “lured” to the “far right” by “conspiracy theories” in the context of resistance to state measures in relation to Covid-19, including opposition to lockdowns, removal of basic civil rights, mass vaccination with experimental mRNA technology and the prospect of vaccine “passes” or even mandatory vaccination.

In employing these terms Monbiot’s article is a distillation of the familiar techniques used to attack dissenting voices on Covid during the past 18 months and for a considerably longer time on other issues such as climate change, Brexit and globalisation.

This form of attack –always in defence of dominant or mainstream narratives and the actions of governments and their corporate “partners” and always expressed in terms of “concern” – employs pejorative terms such as “far right”, “white supremacist” without defining them adequately or at all.

We are never asked to consider what we understand by the term “far right” or how the label “conspiracy theory” – itself a category with a fascinating back story and history for employment by state powers to attack critics and deflect legitimate questioning – is being used and no attempt is made to define where the line lies between legitimate questions and analysis and more fantastical or “extremist” explanations of events.

A detailed discussion of these terms goes beyond the remit of this response to Monbiot’s article – but it is worth noting that, as would be expected, they are not defined with any clarity by Monbiot.

However, regardless of what he means by these labels, his piece is so fundamentally based on logically fallacies and so scattergun in the way he employs them that it is sufficient to confront his claims on their own lack of coherence.

Monbiot opens his article with an anecdotal warning that acquaintances of his within the “countercultural movements where my sympathies lie” are “dropping like flies” from the deadly plague of Covid.

This opens of the question of how this assertion matches current data and whether Monbiot’s experience matches those of the public at large.

Whether this perception of sweeping pestilence is borne out by statistics or not, Monbiot states that this is not a general plague, visited randomly on all such acquaintances, but is one only affecting those with “anti-vax” beliefs.

These are the crazy folk advocating outlandish ideas like the benefits of “natural immunity” (which Monbiot places in scare quotes, presumably in case his readers might think that the human immune system was a real thing) or “denouncing vaccines and refusing to take the precautions that apply to lesser mortals”.

As a result of their sins against “the Science”, regardless of readily available statistics on the inefficacy of these “precautions”, some have been hospitalised Monbiot tells us – though where this is happening and due what underlying or operating causes is unclear.

It is worth noting at this point that Monbiot is at pains throughout this article to locate himself as part of a “counterculture” or “alternative scene” while devoting the entire piece to repeating mainstream narratives and attacking those who oppose them.

Quite how a Brasenose-educated mainstream journalist (whose previous “activism” earned him a visiting fellowship at Oxford’s Green College at the behest of a former UK ambassador to the UN) qualifies as a figure on the “alternative scene” is a question that could quite legitimately be asked.

Not content to bemoan that his “countercultural” acquaintances are putting their own lives at risk – Monbiot then accuses them of “actively threatening the lives of others”.

This shifts these non-complying leftists from a state of recklessness regarding their own health and into the realm of criminal intent.

This is a technique that anyone who has been questioning the mainstream Covid narrative will be familiar with – having spent 18 months being accused of wanting to kill grannies and murder the vulnerable: even in the face of mounting evidence that it is the state that has been engaged in the culling of these groups and which has certainly been responsible for their immiseration.

The thought process for this imputation of homicidal intent runs like this: masks, lockdowns and vaccines prevent transmission, transmission equals disease and disease equals death.

There is, of course, ample scientific evidence to question each stage of this chain of causation [see here], but Monbiot merely asserts each causal step as unassailable truth sufficient to impute murderous intent to all who fail to comply with the edicts of the biosecurity state.

It could be said in response that it would be possible to lay similar accusation of “threatening the lives of others” against those, like Monbiot himself, who advance the ideology of “net zero” – which would likely result in innumerable deaths from starvation and exposure to cold – but that would be to adopt the tactics of one’s opponent and as Marcus Aurelius put it – “the best revenge is not to be like your enemy”.

Having attributed murderous intent on those holding “anti-vax beliefs” Monbiot now casts his net wider to bemoan the passage of “conspiracy theories travelling smoothly from right to left”, including the claims of “white supremacists”, which he states the misguided children of the left are repeating without knowing their origin.

Monbiot does not trouble himself to identify the nature of these white supremacist claims before moving swiftly on to decry the tragic situation in which:

hippies who once sought to build communities [are] sharing the memes of extreme individualism […] spreading QAnon lies and muttering about a conspiracy against Donald Trump

And bemoan that:

the old boundaries have broken down, and the most unlikely people have become susceptible to rightwing extremism”.

There is no attempt to define what is meant by “rightwing extremism” at this point, with Monbiot finding it sufficient to present anecdotal evidence of muttering QAnon hippies – a group I must confess to have never encountered in the ranks of those opposing the Covid agenda, where the QAnon psyop is more likely to be mocked than embraced.

The reader is left none the wiser as to what “extreme individualism” means either. Maybe these “hippies” are inventing their own personal languages or choosing to live as hermits?

But despite the absence of any concrete examples that might act as a warning to the unwary, Monbiot is still concerned that this is a sign of something going “badly wrong in parts of the alternative scene”.

In fact, Monbiot is merely employing the fallacy of composition – the logical fallacy so beloved of many on the modern so-called “left”, in which an entire, highly diverse, group of people advancing versions of a particular idea can be represented by the most extreme individuals also advancing that idea.

Presumably what we are to believe here is that if a Qanon placard, hastily scrawled in crayon by some fringe nutter, is sighted at a protest or if some misguided basement-dweller comments on a Facebook thread then all attending the protest or commenting on the thread are of one mind with these outliers.

Such shoddy thinking has been the mainstay of those employing agents provocateur to discredit movements and campaigns in the past.

It is at this point – perhaps inevitably given the general adherence to Godwin’s Law amongst his milieu – that Monbiot, in an attempt to tie the ideas of these misguided counter-culturalists to the “far-right”, embarks on a rather woolly, cherry-picking and historically inaccurate identification of an “overlap” between “new age” and “far-right” ideas – specifically with Nazi ideology.

There has long been an overlap between certain new age and far-right ideas. The Nazis embraced astrology, pagan festivals, organic farming, forest conservation, ecological education and nature worship.

Monbiot draws attention to the Nazis’ embrace of “pagan festivals, organic farming, forest conservation, ecological education and nature worship”. But then seemingly not quite sure where he is going with this line of thought, and perhaps perceiving the possibility that as a “green” activist himself he is in danger of associating himself with Nazi ideology, he quickly regroups and states that the Nazis also…

promoted homeopathy and “natural healing”, and tended to resist vaccination.

At this point, Monbiot at least has the decency to point out that just because someone believes in natural medicine and ecology, they are not necessarily a Nazi, which is very good of him and is no doubt a comfort to many of his readers who would identify themselves as being part of the Green movement.

However, it is what Monbiot fails to say about the Nazis that is most telling.

After all, at the Nuremberg Trials, it was not homeopathic practitioners who stood trial for crimes against humanity, it was the allopathic doctors who had carried out medical experiments on the inmates of concentration camps.

And the Nuremberg Code did not set out prohibitions against “natural healing”, but rather against the administration of experimental pharmaceutical products to individuals without their informed consent.

Monbiot also fails to address the Nazi belief in population reduction as central to their views of ecology – especially the targeted removal of those deemed to be inferior and whose presence within the borders of the Third Reich was routinely represented as that of vectors of infection, an unclean influence endangering the health of the Good Germans.

It would not be difficult to find echoes of this Malthusian and eugenicist philosophy today – but Monbiot fails to do so.

It is quite a feat to take the example of the centralised totalitarian state of the Third Reich, obsessed as it was with racial purity, racial “hygiene” and conformity through the process of Gleichschaltung (coordination of all arms of the state around central narratives), and associate it with those who have concerns about matters such as individual rights, the Rule of Law and constitutionality.

Is Monbiot unaware that Nazi ideology was diametrically opposed to these values?

Monbiot also points to a process by which European fascists sought to reinvent themselves in the 1960s and 70s by entering the ecological movement to promote ideas such as ethnic separatism or indigenous autonomy. Though he again fails to explain where, and by whom, these ideas are being raised in the current situation.

Monbiot frames the anti-vaccine movement as:

a highly effective channel for the penetration of far-right ideas into leftwing countercultures”.

He then goes on to provide possibly the most bizarre non-example of this that could be imagined – even in a piece as poorly constructed and logically fragile as this – citing the invitation of “anti-vaxxer”, and well-known liberal, Robert F. Kennedy Jnr to the Trump Whitehouse as his example.

For several years, anti-vax has straddled the green left and the far right. Trump flirted with it, at one point inviting the anti-vaxxer Robert F Kennedy Jr to chair a “commission on vaccination safety and scientific integrity”.

One is left wondering at this point whether Monbiot even knows who RFK Jnr is – surely he does – and how on earth he thought this example would be the best one to present to a Guardianista audience (who still see Trump as the personification of right-wing evil), as evidence of right-wing “anti-vaxxers” influencing the left.

Monbiot’s article now dissolves into an ill-defined attack on ‘conspiracy theories’, which he claims are bolstered by Facebook directing vaccine hesitant people towards “far-right conspiracy” groups.

None of these alleged right-wing groups are named or their views described, with Monbiot being content, to:

  • a) make a link, without evidence, between “wellness” movements and antisemitism
  • b) mock the idea of bodily sovereignty (without defining or arguing this as a legal and/or ethical concept) and
  • c) make a vague derogatory reference to beliefs in a “shadowy cabal … trying to deprive us of autonomy”.

Here Monbiot blurs the concept of some form of biological purity with the legal idea of bodily sovereignty, a piece of linguistic and conceptual legerdemain that he employs again later in his conclusion.

To be fair, in his talk of “shadowy cabals” Monbiot doesn’t mention pan-dimensional lizards or the Illuminati – but he may have just run out space to include these.

He is also not clear on where there leads people criticising high-profile globalist organisations such as the World Economic Forum – who far from being “shadowy” publish all of their plans on a glossy website and upload talks and panel discussions from their glitzy annual meetings at Davos.

Of the censorship of legitimate opinion on Facebook, which will be far more familiar to most than being steered to a neo-Nazi group, Monbiot makes no mention.

Monbiot then surrenders any pretence at argument and reminds the reader that they “should never discount the role of sheer bloody idiocy” amongst critics of the biosecurity state and brings up the “Pureblood” meme.

There’s a temptation to overthink this, and we should never discount the role of sheer bloody idiocy. Some anti-vaxxers are now calling themselves “purebloods”, a term that should send a chill through anyone even vaguely acquainted with 20th-century history.

If you are unfamiliar with this fringe social media phenomena, it is one in which the unvaccinated borrow a term from Harry Potter to distinguish themselves from those who have received an mRNA injection. This is, without doubt, a distasteful and counterproductive meme – though its origin is difficult to establish – and provides an open goal for Monbiot (and others) to link those opposing vaccine mandates with the racial pseudoscience of the Nazis.

Ironically here Monbiot states that one cannot expect people this stupid to “detect the echo of the Nuremberg laws”, while being completely blind himself to the other striking contemporary echoes of these discriminatory laws.

It is clear that the current parallels with the Nuremberg Laws do not proceed from those using the “Pureblood” label, who do not seem in any way interested in discriminating against the vaccinated or in excluding them from normal participation in society or from accessing basic services.

In addition, though quick to raise the spectre of the Nuremberg Laws, it is worth observing that Monbiot appears have no interest whatsoever in the Nuremberg Code.

It is in the next section of his article that Monbiot comes closest to touching on something approaching truth, as he describes, without explicitly stating it to be the case, the breakdown in the relevance of a left/right divide experienced by so many over the past 18 months.

I believe this synthesis of left-alternative and rightwing cultures has been accelerated by despondency, confusion and betrayal […] there has been an almost perfect language swap. Parties that once belonged on the left talk about security and stability while those on the right talk of liberation and revolt.

He accurately describes the disillusionment of many who would have considered themselves to be on the ‘left’ as they watched “left-ish” political parties become acquiescent or even supportive of corporate power, while a libertarian right has arisen which rails against excessive corporate control, resulting in what he describes as a “perfect language swap” in which “parties that once belonged on the left talk about security and stability while those on the right talk of liberation and revolt”.

Putting aside the complete lack of evidence for this in the actions and language of the Conservative Party that governs his own country – there is still some truth to what Monbiot says here. In the past 18 months the most unquestioning and aggressive support for Covid policy has been found on the left, a position Monbiot proves as eager to defend as any other member of the “Lockdown Left” – as they have come to be known by many disappointed and outraged people of the left (myself included).

Monbiot then seeks to utilise necessity, the “tyrants plea” as Milton put it, to override the objections that some on the left may have to the criminal record of Big Pharma or their potential revulsion at the “coercive political control” of the responses to Covid.

Mass vaccination is “needed” and lockdown and other measures are “required to prevent Covid-19 spreading” – though ample data points to none of this being the case.

He then extends this free pass to tyranny to the fight against “climate breakdown” and the “collapse of biodiversity”, which he tells his reader have made “powerful agreements struck by governments” necessary – something which he admits can be hard to swallow for a left, particularly an environmental left, resistant to such power plays and instead focused on the “local and the homespun”.

Doubtless such cottage industry approaches to the environment do exist, but there is also a multi-billion dollar oligarch-funded environmental lobbying and PR industry which promotes the case for heavy-handed and society-changing ‘climate action’, and which has brought to the attention of the world such pre-fabricated prophets of doom as Greta Thunberg and funded astroturf movements such as Extinction Rebellion.

Notably Monbiot makes no mention of this whatsoever.

Feeling that he has made his case – though in fact no case has been made at all – Monbiot now arrives at his solutions, which he finds in the “hippie principle” of “balance”. (Though quite where this principle is expressed and who the particular “hippies” are Monbiot does not trouble himself to relate).

Monbiot is careful not to lose his “left” audience at this point, and emphasises that this “hippie principle” is not the ”compromised, submissive doctrine that calls itself centrism” as this leads to “extreme outcomes” such as the “Iraq war, endless economic growth and ecological disaster”.

Instead, he proposes the “balance between competing values in which true radicalism is to be found”.

Remarkably he locates this “balance” in “reason and warmth, empiricism and empathy, liberty and consideration” having demonstrated scant evidence of any of these values throughout the rest of his article.

Presumably it’s this ‘reason, warmth etc ‘ that leads to outcomes such as curtailment of civil liberties, mandatory vaccination and depopulation through pursuit of utopian goals such as zero carbon.

But it is Monbiot’s penultimate paragraph that contains his most dangerous piece of (un)reasoning. We might seek “simplicity” he regretfully opines, like some modern-day Mrs Merdle, but…

the human body, human society and the natural world are phenomenally complex and cannot be easily understood.”

All things which may be true, but which do not imply that we should not seek to understand them.

The conclusion that Monbiot draws from this is chilling:

Life is messy. Bodily and spiritual sovereignty are illusions.

The consequences of this statement cannot be overstressed. If bodily sovereignty is an illusion, where does the bar exist to the intervention of the state or any other coercive force on the individual?

There would, for instance, be no bar to rape, or to forced abortion, sterilisation or any other surgical or medical intervention on the human body.

After all, where there is no sovereignty there can be no consent.

It is to defend the idea of “bodily sovereignty” that the Nuremberg Code was drafted, and it was the discarding of this fundamental ethical concept that gave license to the experiments of Mengele.

Yet Monbiot does not pursue this idea to its logical conclusion, content to dismiss its potentially horrific consequences with a shallow and unsubstantiated statement: “there is no pure essence; we are all mudbloods”.

Here Monbiot, as he does earlier in his article, possibly wilfully, appears to confuse some biological idea of bodily purity (or absence of contamination), to which he attributes connotations of racial purity, with the legal/human rights notion of bodily sovereignty. What he means by “spiritual purity” is, again, anyone’s guess.

Monbiot concludes with a nakedly hypocritical recipe for “enlightenment” as coming from…

long and determined engagement with other people’s findings and other people’s ideas”.

Having displayed absolutely no interest in engaging in any such activities himself. “Self-realisation” he tells us, “requires constant self-questioning” – though he clearly deals in unchallengeable absolutes – and that

true freedom emerges from respect for others”.

Ignoring the inverse case that true tyranny comes from demonising, misrepresenting and disrespecting other people and their views, or by lotting together diverse individuals and ideas under ill-deserved labels such as “far-right” or “conspiracy theorist”.

It is hard to overstress how dangerous the ideas in Monbiot’s article are – a fact made worse by their seeming ubiquity in current mainstream publications and by the casual way they are introduced in relation to a range of issues to discredit legitimate questioning of dominant narratives.

The true danger we face comes not from those on the left being “seduced” by the ideas of the “far right” – a phenomena for which little evidence seems to exist. But rather that anyone would be seduced by the faux-left and superficially “spiritual” and “equitable” concepts offered by Monbiot and others.

Ideas which, when their ill-evidenced assumptions, spurious reasoning and hypocrisy are exposed, potentially light a path to horrendous destinations.

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jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Oct 8, 2021 11:50 PM

Are you sure it’s the Real George Monbiot ? I read that (Microsoft ?) had devised an algorithm to write the daily “news” stories, had sacked most of its flesh ‘n’ blood staff. (If you’ve done any research of mass “news”papers you’d find that each days “news” consists of 1. a rape story. 2. A car crash. 3. A political scandal. 4. and so on. Different day, same story, with different names, some different details).
Could George Monbiot actually be one of those algorithms ? Or is he now a post-Room 101 Big Brother loving hack ?
Surely the “purebloods” are those whose bodies have been cleansed of ‘covid’ impurities by the injected microscopic vacuum cleaners, which is what the adverts for the injections claim they’re for ?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Oct 8, 2021 9:54 PM

Why does Monbiot act like a quintessential BBC TV pleader, salesman, conman, shyster?

I am tired of the wavy-armed salesman. I don’t care what his “effnik.” I object to being sold to, bamboozled, hoodwinked, swindled, usered, gulled, hoaxed, conned, diddled, hornswoggled or taken for a ride.

Go back to the BBC and The Guardian and enter into a non-monogomous relationship with enough ties and binds to keep you from ever emerging into the daylight again.

Secondly. Our language has been stolen from us. Neutralized. Sterilized.

Queer as in German Queerdenken has a specific meaning close to “broken logic”. I demand the word back, along with faggot.

The fasces is a bundle of sticks and has no connection to the circular muscle which has given rise to this confusion. Faggot is the same as fasces, except that it has dried and is ready to burn.

When I say that Gates deserves immolation, I am making a judgement — help me here: not religion or identity but — about his mental-philosophical position,

Gates’ mental-philosophical position is — in relation to me and those I love — murderous, deleterious, antagonistic to me and the greater population. He is to society as a bundle of wood fit to be burned.

He is a greater criminal than any witch who suffered the fire at the hands of the state. Not the people. Not the alt-right. Not extremists. It was the state who burned witches.

Can we have our language back please?

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
Oct 8, 2021 8:41 PM

English is a strange language. There are many words with limited connection between spelling and pronunciation.

For example Monbiot is actually pronounced Moonbat

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Oct 8, 2021 8:21 PM

I met him years ago in Oxford, when I was (relatively) young and foolish (instead of being old and foolish like I am now). He was organising a critical mass cycle protest against cars, and I was into that sort of thing at the time. On a personal level, he was very charming. He wasn’t particularly famous then.

So I’ve tended to view him with more sympathy over the years than I probably would other writers with similar views (and I used to share some of his views; ironically the only one I seem to share now is being pro-nuclear energy, although I know that’s not universally popular here).

From time to time in his blog he would report on his attempts to become a vegan, and he seemed to fail because it made him ill, although it didn’t seem to stop him trying. To be fair, this was well before veganism had become chic and fashionable, like it is now, and I think he believed he was doing it for the planet, and possibly for animal welfare (though the animals involved presumably wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for omnivores / carnivores (and probably non-vegan vegetarians).

I think that vegetarianism and even more so veganism, can lead to serious nutritional deficits if one is not very careful, and taken to extremes, can take a terrible toll on the body, and even more so on the mind…which might account for some of his articles.

Banjo234
Banjo234
Oct 8, 2021 8:00 PM

Truth is of no concern to Monbiot.

Domination is. The destruction of his host community is (that’s us, folks).

Believe Christ the Jew who warned His people against their scribes and Pharisees.

He called them, “LIARS! OF SATAN!”

So what has changed in 2000 years?

We have our own Satanists to deal with; partners in ongoing crimes.

Only a fool would trust any Jew who belongs to the governing or mainstream media political class. Or gentile for that matter. But Monbiot’s Jewishness is not irrelevant.

sandy
sandy
Oct 8, 2021 6:53 PM

Monbiot’s diatribe is a marker for the end of postmodernism as it consumes itself in idiocy.

Awesome deconstruction. I am always totally amazed at the double think deployed by The Mainstream to corral humanity into the eye of 1% needles.

” …true freedom emerges from respect for others”.

Like those who cannot/will not play Russian Roulette with their health, accept medical apartheid, the destruction of their economic lives or exist inside an open air prison for the sake of “everyone else” (others) who are also living the same illusion. The “other” used be foreigners, darker skin races, strange religions, the poor and uneducated, cripples, lepers, the crazies. But now the “other” is everyone, like one nice huge happy humanity? I’m all for egalitarianism but first society needs to abolish the nasty racism, inequality, and near infinite reasons for discrimination, wars and genocide against “others”. The only “other” being discriminated against here is those demanding bodily sovereignty and the right to choose, otherwise called Pro-Choice. Ok for abortion or elective surgery but not sacrificing for the “other”.

George Orwell is saying “I told you so”.

War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength. 
Peace is War, Slavery is Freedom, and Strength is Ignorance.
I am calling them MUGGLES from now on.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Oct 8, 2021 10:12 PM
Reply to  sandy

Orwell was educational book reading 12-15yrs at my UK school.
12yrs you were no longer considered a child, animal farm 1984 etc etc by Blair were class books.
I asked questions, the teachers said it was school protocol to open up, discuss form opinions on the Real World we were not long for joining.
Every effort at that school was geared to exams and those good enough, going on to University.
The Internet ‘Orwellian Theme’ indulgence was definitely added to social netspeak nudge by on-line troll’s and media outlets.

I would like to believe it’s for young (10-15yrs) today, and for the same reasons.
Btw, You were not supposed to quote Orwell, for example “What do You Think?”
“What are Your Emerging Beliefs, young Man?”
Well? State Them? You are at the age now whereby you are very much apart of Society, Open Up Your Mind or stay a Juvenile!
Yes Sir, thank you.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 8, 2021 6:48 PM

Old George on 25/09/2001:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2001/sep/25/1

“Like almost everyone, I want to believe that the attack on New York was the work of a single despot and his obedient commando. But the more evidence United States intelligence presents to this effect, the less credible the story becomes.”

Old George on 06/02/2007:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/feb/06/comment.film

“A 9/11 conspiracy virus is sweeping the world, but it has no basis in fact”

So … what happened to Old George between September 2001 (responding immediately to 9/11 with scepticism towards the official account) and February 2007 (the beginning of an increasingly vitriolic denunciation of alternative theories)?

Ah shades of Noam Chomsky cancelling his meetings to look over the case for a cover up re: JFK … and then totally abandoning all such enquiry.

Here’s what I think:

In each case, an approach from an operative giving a nice little well-meaning piece of advice:

“Well you see, you are perfectly correct to be suspicious because after all we are a democracy and we need profound and fearless investigators such as yourself. But this is not really the time for such irresponsible conjecture which will only have the effect of weakening the Left and which may prove to be somewhat … inconvenient to yourself and your family, if you catch my drift. Oh no, I am not making any kind of threat here! Of course not! I am after all very much concerned with the welfare of you and your family and I am advising you, in your best interests, that, if you pursue rather distasteful avenues, you may find things just a little bit … umm … disagreeable! No, I suggest you put your considerable sleuthing skills to more productive and effective use – you know … for the sake of the movement and so forth!”
 

Researcher
Researcher
Oct 8, 2021 10:14 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Not at all. You obviously don’t understand how controlled opposition works. They woo a core demographic by fooling them with a popular position (that never explains itself, just alludes vaguely to skepticism at the authorities’ blatant lies) then they (the controlled opposition) appear to change their stance later. It’s all part of the con. To appear somewhat reasonable at first, then to condemn those who don’t agree with their newly changed position as insane, ignorant or immoral. This is a tried and true psychological tactic of keeping your audience off-balance. These are the very tactics that governments and intelligence departments use against populations. Good cop/bad cop is a con and left and right don’t exist. They are Hegelian Dialectic narratives.

Monbiot was an obvious fraud from the get-go because climate fraud is just a scam, like invisible deadly microbes jumping from one host to another. Both are ludicrous theories and have no science to back them up. He’s obviously an Intel asset and a Mason. He went to Brasenose College, Oxford!

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Oct 8, 2021 10:47 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Nets Crap for research…Kick anyone up the arse, telling someone else what to do.

Alba
Alba
Oct 8, 2021 5:44 PM

Fascism and nazism had their origins in the backwoods of the so called left. Freedom and individual sovereignty originate somewhere else entirely and the obsolescent terms «the left” and «the right» have little to do with it.
Monbiot comes across as a very useful idiot.

Eva Bartlett
Eva Bartlett
Oct 8, 2021 5:23 PM

Brilliant article, Ian. We are in debt to you for taking the time to read Monbiot’s mind-numbing nonsense and refute it so patiently & eloquently , destroying this already irrelevant little man’s claims.

Eva Bartlett
Eva Bartlett
Oct 8, 2021 5:25 PM
Reply to  Eva Bartlett

For those who might not be aware, Monbiot is an ardent cheerleader for al-Qaeda in Syria (in all its incarnations, including the fraudulent fake “rescuers”, the White Helmets).

Do drop him a tweet if you have anything to add to his claims on them and those who exposed them:
https://twitter.com/GeorgeMonbiot/status/972224381220020225
https://twitter.com/EvaKBartlett/status/1132311456643506178

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Oct 8, 2021 6:12 PM
Reply to  Eva Bartlett

Eva,

Your Courage is Inspirational. It is people like you and Vanessa, who give people like me hope.

You Blow all The Bastards Away.

Thank You

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Tony

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Oct 8, 2021 4:28 PM

About 15 years ago on some blog, George Monbiot asked me to go to a Festival he was going to in Wales. I actually had some respect for him then…

I was always a bit of an environmentalist, but my main reason for nearly meeting George Monbiot, was, well so he claimed, to put a bounty on Tony Blair’s head. I can’t remember the amount, but it was more than his annual earnings, which he openly published.

He said I will pay, whoever succeds in arresting Tony Blair, and bringing him to Trial, I think it was from memory £75,000. Several people tried.

He also wrote this..

https://www.monbiot.com/2009/10/26/arresting-blair/

“Blair has the distinction, which is a source of national pride in some quarters, of being one of the two greatest living mass murderers. That he commissioned a crime of aggression (waging an unprovoked war, described by the Nuremberg Tribunal as “the supreme international crime”(2)) looks incontestable. I will explain the case in a moment. This crime has caused the deaths, depending on whose estimate you believe, of between 100,000 and one million people(3,4). As there was no legal justification, these people were murdered. But no one has been brought to justice.”

Have a Good Break.

Tony

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
Oct 8, 2021 5:48 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

Strangely Blair and Monbiot are now bedfellows, both sharing in the pro-vaccination largesse that flows copiously from the BMGF.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Oct 8, 2021 7:06 PM

Strange what vast quantities of Brainwashing and Money can do to Journalists – mostly male – or had it cut chemically cut off?

Whilst some of The Girls, have got all The Balls. Go there and just write it like it is as they have witnessed it they take photographs and notes, and talk to people and record it…

Surely that it is what journalism is all about. Otherwise you are just a copy and paste merchant.

Most mere men resigned when the likes of Katharine Viner wanted control.

Its not about sex, but it is about the constant Nagging.

The bloke who used to be her boss, who I think occassionaly turns up in my local pub, cos he has got an interest in music too.

I can’t confirm it…It may not be the same bloke, but he doesn’t half look like him. I assume he lives in London like us, I am not exactly into spot a celeb, especially not a journalist. I am hardly going to take a photograph of him ,and ask him if he is the same bloke. I feel sorry for him. I am not going to dox him. it might not be him.

I am there to see the band.

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Tony

2fat2surf
2fat2surf
Oct 8, 2021 4:21 PM

Again, not Fascists they are Bolshies.
Why this obsession with Fascism?

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Oct 8, 2021 4:54 PM
Reply to  2fat2surf

Historically most of the current Fascists, started off as Bolshies / Trotskyists. They almost all came directly from very wealthy Families, or were financed by mainly British and American Families of vast wealth. Their main objectives always seemed to be Mass Slaughter of Humans on an Industrial Scale.

I have never been able to tell the Difference.

John Lennon didn’t approve, and he tried to document it, which is why he was Assassinated.

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2fat2surf
2fat2surf
Oct 8, 2021 8:47 PM
Reply to  Tony_0pmoc

I certainly agree that John Lennon was assassinated.
This is their main way of keeping control; killing anyone with mass credibility that isn’t on board with their criminality.

WeOverComeOrWeAreDone
WeOverComeOrWeAreDone
Oct 8, 2021 3:49 PM

Psalm 68:31 Revealed: Nwo-Nazis Use Barack Obama, Kamala Harris and Abiy Ahmed to Distract Us and Destroy Hope

A country that is blessed by God and is the focal point of all Judaism, Christianity and Islam is thus slowly walking into biblical destruction because we have chosen to follow the devil’s minions instead of turning our hands to Egziabher (God). Many don’t understand yet but it will be revealed to them in time, the battle that is taking place in Ethiopia, where America is attacking my homeland by using Egypt as a proxy, has nothing to do with geopolitics but is all about spiritual warfare.

Psalm 68:31 notes, “princes shall come out of Egypt, Ethiopia shall quickly stretch forth her hand to God”. The Bible is full of mysteries and it can’t be read like a regular novel, one must be in the spirit to truly deconstruct the hidden meanings that are imbued within the Good Book. You see, Egypt is not a country but a concept. The land that is called Egypt is a colonial propaganda, people who live there call that blessed country Misr or Kem’t. Moreover, the river that runs through it is called the Ghion River not the Nile; the former is the second river in Genesis while the latter is a DENIAL of Ethiopia’s history. Egypt represents the knowledge of mankind, the cunning we gained when we accepted the first recorded act of philanthropy as we took a free bite of Satan’s apple.

READ FULL ARTICLE AT: https://ghionjournal.com/nwo-nazis-use-barack-obama-kamala-harris-and-abiy-ahmed/

Build Back Botter
Build Back Botter
Oct 8, 2021 3:36 PM

Also, anyone who is supporting the medical industry as it stands today is supporting the hijacking of medicine from over a century ago. Both economics and medicine are in dire need of a metaphorical chiropractic adjustment since they’ve been out of whack for some time now.

Nikola Tesla was on the right track with ozone therapy as a practical cure-all and MMT advocates like Stephanie Kelton are on the right track when it comes to reviving government fiscal policy over bank credit creditocracy.

How the Flexner Report Hijacked Natural Medicine

“Abraham Flexner was not a doctor, but a school teacher and educational theorist from Louisville, Kentucky. In 1910 he published the Medical Education in the United States and Canada, known as the Flexner Report, which elevated the importance of German educational methods in the teaching of medicine.

There is a connection between the robber barons and medicine. John Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, and others saw this as a progression of peddling pharmaceuticals, which began as byproducts of oil refinement.

There were no real effective governmental agencies in place monitoring the state of affairs within the medical community, so what Flexner did at the behest of the robber barons, he did so in favor of profits rather than the long-term care of patients. He effectively created a culture that enabled the monetization of medicine.”

And this:

“By contrast, “terrain theory,” which was initiated by Claude Bernard (1813–1878) and later built upon by Antoine Béchamp (1816–1908), alleges that the terrain—that is, the internal environment of the body—and not an external germ determines our health or lack thereof. What Béchamp referred to as “terrain” is very close to what modern medicine has now termed the innate immune system. As we will see in the following paragraphs, Béchamp was definitely on the right track in discovering how the human body really interacts with the outside environment.

Unlike Pasteur, Béchamp did have an academic background in science. He believed disease to be a biological result of the changes that take place in the body when its metabolic processes become imbalanced. When the body is in a state of imbalance, Béchamp alleged, germs become symptoms that in turn stimulate more symptoms, which eventually lead to disease. 

Although Béchamp was moving in the right direction with his terrain theory, Rockefeller’s germ-dependent pharmaceutical tyranny has prevailed, due largely to substantial infusions of money, which Rockefeller and Carnegie gladly supplied in the form of grants to universities, hospitals, and medical research facilities. Their “philanthropic” largess, which easily exceeded $100 million, enabled them to influence the policy of the entire US medical establishment and eventually most of the Western nations, steering them toward an exclusively chemical-based allopathic regime.“ 

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Oct 8, 2021 6:00 PM

 and MMT advocates like Stephanie Kelton are on the right track when it comes to reviving government fiscal policy over bank credit creditocracy.

Amen.

Unfortunately, one of Kelton’s fellow MMT advocates, Prof. Bill Mitchell of Newcastle University, Australia, seems to go along with Branch Covidianism, and the Climate Crisis religion. Although he is an expert mathematician, which helps to inform his economics, I don’t think he’d claim to be any sort of scientist. My hope for him is that if he had the opportunity to speak to the right people, the necessary lightbulbs would go off.

someone
someone
Oct 8, 2021 2:10 PM

I am curious if this sort of tiresome vomit from moronbot makes people here question their previous views as to other groups or individuals characterized as far right (now it happens to be you) by the same suspects over the years?

anyone, bueller, bueller?

Turning Moment
Turning Moment
Oct 8, 2021 4:17 PM
Reply to  someone

A bit after the fact for me to be honest.
I studied the history of money and read the work of Nobel winners like Soddy, activists like Douglas, and poetic geniuses like Pound. Their ultimate views informed me as to why the Left and Liberals ignored the nature of money and its history in shaping politics and economics.
I studied 9/11 and found a preponderance of connections that were not ‘allowed’. I noted the characters who shouted loudest that I was not supposed to study 9/11. From that, I came to understand why the Left could not understand or even discuss 9/11.
The Left’s response to Covid came as no surprise to me, rather a confirmation of conclusions (reluctant ones to be honest) that had formed over the preceding 3 years.
Monbiot’s line boils down to this : “Do not read anything that is not approved by me or my colleagues in the Liberal Establishment media, and you will be OK. If you do, you are and deserve to be, outcast and so are not worthy of intellectual engagement”.
We must always remember that it is the Monbiot’s of this world who call people names and make accusations then hide away behind the walls of institutions like the Guardian (and, ultimately, the institutional violence of the state). They never have the guts to debate these issues in a fair contest of competing narratives.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 8, 2021 12:57 PM

Monbiot’s toxic rag currently is claiming that the true covid death toll is much higher because of governmental cover-ups (you know, all those governments that have been so eager to underplay covid… ). Gosh George, that sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory!

Guess which country is the first specifically mentioned as fiddling its figures?….

Orthus
Orthus
Oct 8, 2021 1:36 PM
Reply to  Edwige

From toxic rag:

Senior health officials who war-gamed the impact of a coronavirus hitting the UK, warned four years before the onset of Covid-19 of the need for stockpiles of PPE, a computerised contact tracing system and screening for foreign travellers, the Guardian can reveal.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/07/coronavirus-report-warned-of-impact-on-uk-four-years-before-pandemic

Well, slap me down with a wet fish. It was a plandemic, Guardian says so.

Orthus
Orthus
Oct 8, 2021 2:05 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Well not strictly speaking. The headline asks a question and the article then refers to the student who is trying to prove that this is true. No following the science for the Graun and the student (student FFS).

The 31-year-old economics student at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem had never worked on health matters before, but he was troubled by rumours early in the pandemic that Israel was not experiencing a rise above expected death rates, and therefore Covid was not serious.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/08/global-covid-death-toll-higher-pandemic

Essentially the figures show that there is no serious pandemic so the figures must be wrong. Countries that did not have lockdowns show no great number of excess deaths. This obviously does not show that there is no pandemic or that lockdowns are ineffective but that the figures are wrong.

It appears they believe that covid mortality exceeds total mortality. (He is studying economics.)

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 8, 2021 2:19 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Maybe The Guardian has teamed up with those other covid fear porn frothers, the WSWS in claiming that Govts are under playing the deadly plandemic… Oops, I mean pandemic, and more harder and tougher restrictions need to be applied.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Govern+me+harder+daddy+covid&client=ms-android-optus-au-revc&prmd=ivsxn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjh-5u08rrzAhVr63MBHZNBCHAQ_AUoAXoECAIQAQ&biw=360&bih=599&dpr=2#imgrc=ZW5rKAwTuZS6wM

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 8, 2021 2:21 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

And I wish I knew how to post just the image alone by itself without all this bloody text saying where it comes from.

Ort
Ort
Oct 8, 2021 9:41 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Glad you’re hanging in there, Gezzah. I think I offered these instructions to you previously, and you replied that they don’t work for mobile phones. 

But I’m not 100% certain it was you, so I’m providing them again just in case. I added a “sample” image (taken during the 1918 Spanish Flu scamdemic) to show that there are no annoying extraneous characters. Hope it works for you!
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• First, upload the image file to a (free) upload site; Postimages is straightforward enough: https://postimages.org/

• Once uploaded, the Postimages page will display several URLS; copy “Direct Link” and paste it into the Off-G comments window. Make sure it’s on a separate line with spaces above and below.

• Do not use the “link” markup feature here, just post the raw Direct Link. Voilà!

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Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 8, 2021 11:38 PM
Reply to  Ort

Thanks Ort… I’ll keep this for reference for when Offguardian comes back in 9 days. Comments section closing down in about half an hour UK time.
I’m hanging in there but it’s getting tougher tho. The sheer psychopathy of Daniel Andrews and his cohorts like Brett Sutton, the Victorian Chief Health Officer is mind boggling.
Was told last week by the magazine manager that when they start up again after lockdown, I will be banned from starting work because I’m not double jabbed and will only be allowed to start again when the unvaccinated are allowed to return to work.
All us refuseniks and covid sceptics will be in the same boat. Full blown medical apartheid as it is in a lot of places.
Good luck to you in Philadelphia, and will hear from you in 9 days or so. Take care.

Popeye
Popeye
Oct 8, 2021 12:44 PM

Having been disturbed by the extreme tone of the article my instinct suggests to me that the final paragraph is designed to stand alone and separate from the main article. Almost an autodidactical response to his own prior arguments whereby the true enlightenment of which he speaks has of a sudden bestowed itself upon him, reminding Media George of the higher principles of Rebel George. Or just a classic example of cognitive dissonance from Total George…

Mike Ellwood
Mike Ellwood
Oct 8, 2021 1:31 PM
Reply to  Popeye

Tosspot George?
(sorry to be so scatalogical. Must be the influence of all the “far right” people with whom people like me allegedly associate).

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Oct 8, 2021 12:13 PM

“I believe this synthesis of left-alternative and rightwing cultures has been accelerated by despondency, confusion and betrayal […] there has been an almost perfect language swap. Parties that once belonged on the left talk about security and stability while those on the right talk of liberation and revolt”.

Poor Monbiot has got confused himself. What has happened, obviously, is not that “the left” has taken over the establishment or that “the right” has become libertarian.

In fact, principles of any kind have pretty much become extinct. (As have Mr Monbiot’s, who seems to act mostly in his own interests without regard to those of others).

Those who happen to be in power see it as convenient to adopt traditionally “left wing” speech, whereupon their opponents have naturally grabbed the opposite role of “conservatism”.

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Oct 8, 2021 11:57 AM

“However, regardless of what he means by these labels, his piece is so fundamentally based on logically fallacies and so scattergun in the way he employs them that it is sufficient to confront his claims on their own lack of coherence”.

In spite of his intelligence, education, and ability to learn, I think Mr Monbiot’s article is best understood as a scream of protest.

It must be difficult to have to believe that one is a daring rebel, while at the same time fitting in seamlessly with the establishment.

But good old doublethink comes to the rescue, as always.

“To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process…”

Peter Allen
Peter Allen
Oct 8, 2021 1:13 PM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

darling rebel

gotrdan
gotrdan
Oct 8, 2021 11:42 AM

parasite
mr soil
soiled
gorge bot
greta greens gran dad
look at the image above
crazy crazy bolshevik
been livin the psy dream all its life
4 storey townhouse

khazar ashkanazim
mi 5 low level mouth piece
tavistock twat
qchq no no
call it what you will

tool
absolute

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Oct 8, 2021 11:32 AM

he’s been shilling for corporate for years!

Red
Red
Oct 8, 2021 11:23 AM

Read a fair bit of Monbiot through the mid and late teens and would have to say calling him naive would be gracious to say the least.

duckman
duckman
Oct 8, 2021 10:26 AM

Excellent article, but sadly reveals that the our belief system, for those of us who have broken free of the illusion…”Truth”, is no different than the spell cast upon those we once regarded as friends, family, even lovers.
As each day progresses mamy of us know, without fear or hesitation that our position is that of “to the death” and truthfully who among us would have thought we would be saying that 18months ago?
Personally im more than happy to invite monbiased to my farm, i have a whole host of really cool implements, (pto driven, hydraulic and plain old pull/push) we can play with while we discussbody sovreignty`.
Tickets merely £5 at the gate, concessions…. FREE!

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Oct 8, 2021 10:11 AM

“Before our next programme, here is a message for shipping: Starboard is the right hand side. Do try and remember!”

In other news: one phenomenon, several phenomena. Do try and remember, Ian! Greek-derived words aren’t really all that difficult to grasp.

PS: When it comes to George demonstrating yet again, as he does regularly, his broad naivety streak, he never lets you down. I presume that as well as being incorrigibly naive, he’s one of the thirty percent of people who happen to be heavily hypnotically-suggestible, and who’ve swallowed completely the massive hypnotic propaganda blizzard pushing the deliberately-induced mass psychosis of the ‘pandemic’ bollocks. Silly George! Wake up soon, sucker. (There’s no correlation between IQ and suggestibility. Some of the brightest people have it in spades, and it trips them constantly. Bad luck of the genetic draw.)

Simon Hodges
Simon Hodges
Oct 8, 2021 9:39 AM

Bodily sovereignty is not an illusion it is a legal construct just as is national sovereignty, both of which are under direct threat from neo-fascists such as Monbiot. Hippies and any traditional liberals who were always to be found in all political parties have remained entirely consistent in their principles of bodily sovereignty, civil liberties, freedom of speech etc.

All of us hippies and old school liberals have not changed our minds and we are criticized for being ‘nostalgic’ in thinking such values should remain central political concerns. It is Monbiot and the neoliberal progressives who have changed and moved over to the far right by fully supporting public/private partnerships, globalism and transnational corporate fascism on the back of a number of global crises and manufactured threats. The level of hypocrisy on display from Monbiot is shocking.

shamen
shamen
Oct 8, 2021 9:33 AM

half theses fuckig idiots no one has heard of
more importantly no one gives a f*ck
tell us something we dont no mr alt media educate us on the incoming not some idiot shortcomings
or at least have the courage to expose thoses who are considered influences in your movement!.
You dont have the courage though. Here is scraps for the dum masses.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 8, 2021 9:29 AM

Excellent detailed investigation into the kind of claim the MSM repeat unchallenged and the fact-checkers never get around to fact-checking:

https://citizenjournos.com/2021/10/06/confirmed-the-mater-hospital-was-not-full-of-unvaccinated-20-30-year-olds-on-ventilators-on-the-22nd-july/

someone
someone
Oct 8, 2021 9:41 AM
Reply to  Edwige

But, but, but Doctors never lie!

Do they even see it as lying, does the concept actually have any meaning to these NPCs?

Interesting its the same script as in the US and other places when they wanted to roll out the vex lower down the age bracket (as they are sill doing for the under 18s now).

The motivation to do this is baffling. Perhaps they think no one will ever check, and mostly they are right.

Lies beget more lies until it becomes an accepted fact.

Trewpol
Trewpol
Oct 8, 2021 11:32 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Thanks for sharing this; it doesn’t surprise me any more how these so called medical professionals will continuously lie. They are careerists and to get higher up the ladder one has to prove themselves by emphasising the mainstream narrative – otherwise they get left out in the cold.

Reminds me of Derek Vinyard in American History X showing his swastika in the prison yard gym so the other nazis would let him in. It’s a calculated risk where he deems the reward worth it. What is really encouraging is that he ends up getting ass raped by his brethren when they get sick of his preaching and have no need for him anymore. Same will happen to these idiots.

(I am not calling for anyone to be ass raped and only citing it metaphorically.)

ImpObs
ImpObs
Oct 8, 2021 9:02 AM

Moonbat is a tool, in the literal, and the British slang sense.

Has anyone researched Stowe School? Famous for a few things besides educating the great and the connected of british Aristocracy, including spooks and paedophile rings, Elm Guest house, Lodge 9002 the Masonic lodge for former students (Old Stoics). Fun fact MI6 had it’s headquarters in Stowe School Chapel in 2 James Bond films.

Sir Crispin Tickell (Moonbats mentor) was President of the Royal Geographical Society from 1990 to 1993 and Warden of Green College, Oxford between 1990 and 1997, where he appointed George Monbiot and Norman Myers as Visiting Fellows.

Tickell is a member of the eugenics Huxley clan. He is also a patron of population concern charity Population Matters, (formerly known as the Optimum Population Trust), and told Radio 4’s Today programme that the ideal population for Britain could be around 20 million.

Moonbat, pfft.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Oct 8, 2021 8:29 AM

Here you have it: the eugenicist-malthusian world-view from the Graun as enunciated by the far-centre Monbiot and also promulgated by none other than his Royal Highness, Prince Phillip.

‘’I would like to be a deadly virus – in order to solve the world’s overpopulation problem.’’ His Highness, Prince Phillip – 1988

Establishment luminaries of the far-centre are usually not quite as vocal and brazen as the above. For good measure you can throw in the likes of Bertrand Russell and H.G.Wells et.al. The outer-party Guardianistas and their ilk are the contemporary counter-revolutionaries. But there will be no counter-revolution from below involving mass paramilitary movements such as the SA and SS in Germany and the Blackshirts and Squadrisiti in Italy. No, this will be a classical counter-revolution from above involving the state, big business, and quasi-state institutions such as the MSM.

At present the hysteria involving the virus-vaccine is losing traction, this was to be expected, but it has done its job in softening up the general population with the scare-mongering and the fake-vaccine meme. This time around the tactics will be switched over to a straight political-economic-ideological offensive, with the likes of Monbiot and his contemporaries leading the charge.

The interesting thing has also been the lack of any pro-vax mass movement. There have been no big demos involving hundreds of thousands as has been the case with the opposition. The problem of the far-centre is their inability to make any convincing case for fake vaccines, lockdowns, shortages and utter incompetence.

So, the I would argue that the virus-vaccine stage of the counter-revolution has begun to give way to the lockdown, political-economic phase. Interesting times ahead.

Carnyx
Carnyx
Oct 8, 2021 8:09 AM

Yo Admin!

Can you get the Photoshop bods to add a big red nose, clown hair and an accordion to that picture of him…. I just feel it would be closer to the truth.

YeahBut
YeahBut
Oct 8, 2021 7:54 AM

The illusion is that by opposing particular ideologies or symbols (racism, swastikas, “far right”) you can prevent evil governments. But there is no limit to the ideologies that can be invented by the human mind, you could base mass-killing totalitarianism on anything that allows political rhetoric to elicit fear.

The things that really matter are mundane things like freedom of speech, freedom of movement, bodily autonomy. When those things go, that is the signal that things have gone horribly wrong. The “left” used to understand this very well.

2fat2surf
2fat2surf
Oct 8, 2021 4:30 PM
Reply to  YeahBut

Yes. That is why the US is a bit unique having a Bill of Rights enshrined into law.
And I know that at present our government who’s job it is to protect those rights is now at best only paying lip service to them.
But, last I heard they had not been officially repealed.

Hele
Hele
Oct 8, 2021 7:46 AM

‘’In 2000, he published Captive State: The Corporate Takeover of Britain. The book examines the role of corporate power in the United Kingdom, on both local and national levels, and argues that corporate involvement in politics is a serious threat to democracy. Subjects discussed in the book include the building of the Skye Bridge, corporate involvement in the National Health Service, the role of business in university research, and the conditions which influence the granting of planning permission.”

Jacques
Jacques
Oct 8, 2021 7:37 AM

The question that needs to be asked is why this guy Monbiot and others of his ilk are acting this way.

One possibility is that he’s in on this global coup d’etat, has been co-opted by the covidians to write propaganda on their behalf. The other possibility is that his head was fucked up already before, and that CV-1984 has presented him with a vehicle to open the floodgates to let out his frustration.

The latter seems more likely. He, as well other useful idiots, sees CV-1984 as an opportunity to cure tous les maux du monde. Maybe covidian monbiots of the world are frustrated, disillusioned about the widening gap between the tiny bunch of the richest and everybody else during the past decades, the form into which capitalism has morphed, and so on. There are a lot of things one can be frustrated about. And their dimwit selves see the build-back-better gibberish as a prospect for a better world. This is much stronger than intellectual integrity, and dumbos of Monbiot’s kind are happily committing dishonest fallacies, such as confirmation bias and anything else they find handy.

Essentially, Monbiot is the perfect example of a useful idiot. A total cretin who is helping a bunch of unscrupulous hoarders establish complete dominance over the rest of the world while thinking that he’s working toward social equality.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Oct 8, 2021 10:43 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Not necessarily total cretins. J. George is a good example of that odd type with high intelligence, combined with a fatally-high level of credulity. Or hypnotic suggestibility, if you prefer. The good Craig Murray is another example. They make fools of themselves routinely, despite their IQ ratings. They’re such easy marks when it comes to crafty bastards taking the piss out of them; even when the bastards can match neither their ‘education’ nor their intelligence.

For such unfortunates as George and Craig, a high degree of formal (genteel, sheltered) ‘education’, together with masses of memorised – alleged – ‘facts’, is a sure-fire way to open themselves up to being conned repeatedly by cynical scam-artists. Amoral streetwise operators always find them such a giggle.

Btw, I speak from the inside, as a – recovering – example of the type myself… 🙂

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 8, 2021 4:42 PM
Reply to  Jacques

widening gap between the tiny bunch of the richest and everybody else
This is intrinsic to capitalism. We know of only one period of a few dcades when proper taxation rectified the situation.

someone
someone
Oct 8, 2021 5:39 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Good lord. The very rich do not and never have paid tax. If you had met a few, you would realise they don’t really own anything in their own right.

I wish people would not fall for this nonsense. The middling and lower classes bear the taxation.

Tax is to prevent you keeping resources and financial ignorance keeps people clamouring for it.

Yossi
Yossi
Oct 8, 2021 5:18 PM
Reply to  Jacques

No need to complicate things. He relies on the Guardian for a big chunk of his income and he may be their resident “lefty” like Owen Jones but has to follow the party line.

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Oct 8, 2021 6:58 PM
Reply to  Yossi

I was thinking that The Guardian always seemed to be having financial problems, and that Monbiot & Jones are not guaranteed jobs forever, so I went looking for articles along the lines of “when will the Guardian go broke?”. Turns out it’s not as simple as all that, as The Scott Trust seems to have oodles of money, and will probably never let the G. go totally broke, although it seems it has to make cuts from time to time to make its books look a bit more respectable.

However, in looking for that, I found this rather interesting article by Suzanne Moore:

https://unherd.com/2020/11/why-i-had-to-leave-the-guardian/

Never particularly liked her articles in The Guardian, but that one’s a cracker. (Bit long thought).

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 8, 2021 7:30 AM

Holy shit!
Delirious Dan, Premier Of Victoria, and the world’s lockdown leader, has been fined for not wearing his mask.
Heaven forbid. He could have spread the greatest plague in the known universe among his parliamentary parasites.
That would have been a disaster.
Wouldn’t it ?

someone
someone
Oct 8, 2021 9:03 AM
Reply to  Johnny

pathetically staged to reinforce the mask wearing.

Look Dan gets fined too – we are all under the same laws – story time.

Monkey see, Monkey do.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 8, 2021 9:08 AM
Reply to  someone

That had crossed my mind someone.
Any fine will be chicken feed for the $400,000 a year, future corporate consultant.

someone
someone
Oct 8, 2021 9:34 AM
Reply to  Johnny

The thing that gets me irritated is the inability for any second order thinking in the mongs being fed this BS.

So he is the Premier. This means he has 24 hour police bodyguards, plus surrounded by any number of security people in public places. plus his PR person and assistant is with him all the time, and they are obsessed with the media representation of his actions. He knows he is on camera as well.

Does anyone actually think some copper or official will swan up to the premier and say “excuse me sir, where is your mask?”, or some constable will look at the news and say , that Premier is not wearing his mask , I will open a police case in the local station and get a letter sent. Look sarge I fined the Premier today.

Goodbye to your job mate.

Things in the real world do not work like that.

The script for today is: Look we are all suffering together, even Dan, we know mistakes are made, but pay the fine and admit your sin, then make more effort.

Got to nudge those morons.

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Oct 8, 2021 7:04 PM
Reply to  Johnny

The bugger will probably claim it on expenses.(Forgive the use of the Australian demotic language there 🙂 )

shamen
shamen
Oct 8, 2021 9:28 AM
Reply to  Johnny

how was he caught johnny .? was it by camera ? video recording.?

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 8, 2021 10:36 AM
Reply to  shamen
shamen
shamen
Oct 8, 2021 3:26 PM
Reply to  Johnny

nice one and nice one for the link

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 8, 2021 4:43 PM
Reply to  Johnny

In trying to play down the incident, ABC was practically grovelling.

Ort
Ort
Oct 8, 2021 9:28 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Too bad they didn’t really drive the lesson home by taking him out and shooting him!

I can just imagine his mask-muffled last words: “It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest I go to than I have ever known.”

aspnaz
aspnaz
Oct 8, 2021 5:51 AM

Monbiot created Covid and is secretly unvaccinated!

See, I can do what he does for a living!

Glenda
Glenda
Oct 8, 2021 5:34 AM

Thank you. I loved this article. Sad, I used to admire Monbiot “back in the day”, but what he is espousing is the same narrative as so many “lefties” who have embraced totalitarianism.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Oct 8, 2021 7:39 PM
Reply to  Glenda

Yup. And the truly weird part is just how outraged these idiots would be had Trump proposed these totalitarian measures, REAL ones that actually are totalitarian and not the hysterical spin on his any action as “totalitarian.” Where are all those lefties who should see through this out of their very own leaders? Why, they’re brain dead now from too much masking, doncha know. And they’ll stay brain dead and fully masked while shrieking about fascists while they themselves act out their very own fascist fantasies. Sickening, isn’t it?

Ort
Ort
Oct 8, 2021 9:25 PM
Reply to  Lizzyh7

Yes, and had Trump been the one to propose the totalitarian measures, those outraged idiots might even have attempted to storm the White House.

But if that happened, the overwhelming majority of Elected Misrepresentatives and the mass-media Mighty Wurlitzer wouldn’t disapprovingly characterize it as a “riot” or “insurrection”– they’d applaud it as a long-overdue demonstration of People Power.

redbull
redbull
Oct 8, 2021 4:01 AM

All those people who have been vaccinated in order to keep their jobs, please step forward.
All those who have been vaccinated so that they can travel, please step forward.
All those who had the vaccination to please someone else, ditto.
If you have stepped forward, it appears that you do not particularly believe in the danger of Covid-19 or the efficacy of the vax. You have been coerced.
 I ask you, do you if care whether I get vaccinated or not? Why should you?
 I ask you to support those of us who refuse the vaccination because these particular coercions are not effective on us, for whatever reason.
We will resist as long as we can. Support us, we will love you for it.

Build Back Botter
Build Back Botter
Oct 8, 2021 3:54 PM
Reply to  redbull

The Covid vaccine-injured exist. Hear their stories:

https://www.c19vaxreactions.com

Ort
Ort
Oct 8, 2021 9:17 PM

The Testimonies Project – The Movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4BpEr8gztU

I know this video has been posted in Off-G threads more than once, but it deserves maximum exposure even though it’s not exactly a cheerer-upper. I didn’t think I’d watch it all, especially while eating breakfast, but I did. 

I will say, though, that as I watched I reminded myself over and over that all of the people I know who “need” to watch this have already gotten the pseudo-vaccine. And I’m sure that none of them would be able to bring themselves to watch this.

When I was a kid, c. 1963, an OTC “cold-relief” medication, Contac, was marketed with a popular campaign in which the makers boasted that it was a New! Improved! extended-release capsule containing 600 “tiny time pills”. As the catchphase suggests, supposedly the “tiny time pills” would gradually dissolve over a period of several hours to provide extended relief.

So people who’ve gotten toxic “COVID vaccines”, especially of my generation, would be freaked out at the ugly, grim truth that the mRNA and other mystery ingredients function like those “tiny time pills”, with indefinite duration to boot. 

I’ve heard the vaxxed– including those who claim to have grudgingly gotten vaccinated against their better judgment– report with palpable relief and even pride that except for a sore arm for a day or two, they suffered no adverse side-effects. 

They definitely don’t want to know about the potential for delayed, long-range effects of the “tiny, ticking time bombs” vividly and credibly described in these sad testimonies.

juno
juno
Oct 8, 2021 3:59 AM

I was helping a friend put together a list of the government representatives for our district as she wanted to write some letters.

I will be handing her the list tomorrow, but warning her of wasting her breath. A bunch of the people on that list had been in the same office circa 2001/2. I remember writing them a few times to ask them to not vote for the patriot act or the Iraq war. All I ever recieved was condescending form letters. Maybe she’ll just have to find out for herself…but like Monbiot, these people have been on this mission for longer than many in the ‘normie’ world are aware.

If reincarnation is true, perhaps I will be allowed to at least be a fly on the wall to witness the look on these quisling’s faces when they are told they won’t be going to the island with the elites they served so cravenly. The look when they realize they will die just like all the ones they killed. I hear this happens a lot in purges.

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 8, 2021 4:08 AM
Reply to  juno

Bang on Juno. Fully agree. Literally all politicians everywhere are fully on board this agenda, faithfully serving their real masters. The only exception is a handful of independent ones who have no power to do anything anyway.
And yes, I would have very much liked to have seen the look on the faces of filth like Monbiot, Peter Fitzsimmons, Piers Morgan, Luke Harding et al, when they find out they’ve been thrown under the bus with the rest of us mere plebs. These bastards are just useful idiots for those pulling the strings.

juno
juno
Oct 8, 2021 4:32 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

Yep. One of these guys I remember well for having had peaceful people who came to his office with a petition arrested for tresspassing. I guess he doesn’t have to worry about that as much anymore. None of their websites divulge their actual e-mail or the physical address of their offices anymore, it is all funneled through the website contact section or their addy in the capitol.

Penelope
Penelope
Oct 8, 2021 3:57 AM
WeOverComeOrWeAreDone
WeOverComeOrWeAreDone
Oct 8, 2021 3:38 AM

My Prayer for Humanity: We are Worth More than a Broken Sparrow

I had a revelation of sorts this morning while I was driving around DC trying to do two things at once. Perhaps Lot did too much when he walked all around Sodom and Gomorrah and that his only duty was to do his part and then leave to God the rest. Maybe, in his mind, he thought he was so special that he could prevent a prophecy from coming to fruition.

Man full of ego, perhaps his wife was likewise burdened with pretension which is why she looked back with regret thinking about the comforts she lost only to become bitter at life. I write these things in context to what I have been covering over the past couple of weeks. For those who don’t know, I have been writing of a potential terror attack—a belief spurned by a “safety and security” bulletin that was issued by DHS on Friday, September 17th—which compelled me to start a crisis chronicle that I have been updating on almost a daily basis to keep people who are in the dark informed….continued…

READ FULL ARTICLE AT: https://ghionjournal.com/my-prayer-for-humanity-we-are-worth-more-than-a-broken-sparrow/

Liverian
Liverian
Oct 8, 2021 9:34 AM

I’ve just read through your article – thank you for your honesty and prayers.

duckman
duckman
Oct 8, 2021 10:20 AM

I read it, a child of Ethiopia, yet a server of Barrack Obama, work that out? Im sure you mean well and that God has placed you where you need to be, Watchers unite? There we perhaps differ, understand theremnant` and maybe this will serve the purpose better?
God bless

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Oct 8, 2021 3:32 AM

I often make extended comments on this blog, but I will keep it short and sweet this time. As a “Yank” who has been living in Latin America for the last ten years, are there really a large percentage of people in the UK who take this not so crypto fascist shithead twerp seriously?

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 8, 2021 4:48 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

I think it’s an odds on bet that your liberal lefty progressive types will be. And there’ll be a lot of those types here in Australia as well who hang on his every word along with other controlled opposition like Amy Goodman and Noam Chomsky.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Oct 8, 2021 7:10 AM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

And now the scabby mob here want to give out the 3rd jabs to the old and sick, talk about open murder

red lester
red lester
Oct 8, 2021 8:35 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

George’s heart is in the right place. He has published some brave truths in the past. I suspect he just swans around with poncy metro winkers.

Orthus
Orthus
Oct 8, 2021 8:49 AM
Reply to  red lester

Yes, George has a promising future behind him.

Peter Allen
Peter Allen
Oct 8, 2021 9:14 AM
Reply to  red lester

But is it though? When the middle class refuse to get engaged in struggles because they are protected from the harsher side of life, when they hide behind their privilege and just wish people would be nicer to each other, they are still making a choice, to ignore. Like the parable of the Good Samaritan, they don’t want to get their clothes dirty. Being nice isn’t neutral, it directly causes harm to others, but they don’t want to see that. Hence the sickening hypocrisy of the pseudo left that Monbiot exemplifies. He’s made his bed, let him lie on it.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Oct 8, 2021 7:47 PM
Reply to  red lester

Those whose hearts are most assuredly NOT in the right place will use George’s oh so pretty words to do unspeakable things to the type of people George is mocking. So, if he doesn’t mean his words to be used that way, does that excuse the sentiment his words express? To willfully condemn anyone who questions the narrative of psychopaths is inexcusable, period. People like George give the willfully dumb and malevolent the nice pretty words to dress up their atrocities. Who cares where his heart is when his actions can be used to destroy other people? Fuck him.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Oct 8, 2021 10:51 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

He’s a Curate’s Egg, G. Sometimes he publishes good stuff. But he’s always a sucker.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 8, 2021 2:17 AM

Monbiot’s not worth the paper he’s printed on.
A total non-entity.

Let’s spend our time on something human.
The current heroes of the media airheads are making us all ill.

Maiasta
Maiasta
Oct 8, 2021 3:56 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Unfortunately, the aitheads’ arguments have to be engaged with, since these still determine the most widespread perceptions of the “pandemic”.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Oct 8, 2021 2:10 AM

“extreme individualism”

Is this the opposite of “extreme busybodying” which is what GM appears to be suffering from, placing himself into the personal decisions of all the people in the UK, both vaxxed and unvaxxed.

Having inserted himself, he then proceeds to judge each and every one, giving each vaxxed a gold star and each unvaxxed detention and a lecture on why they are a white supremecist Nazi, a selfish grandma killer, an “extreme individual”, a bad sheep, a stupid moron: a wholesome soup of bad things but no genuine reasoning.

GM is just another government pen jockey: GMjust comes with a fantasy world where he gets to tell everybody what to do, instructions he is given by his boss.

Isn’t it time someone told him to mind his own business and stop poking his nose where it doesn’t belong? Personal decisions are always correct by definition: as long as the person makes the decision themselves, then it is a personal decision and nobody has standing to argue against it or even ask what it is, not even an extreme busybody.

Liverian
Liverian
Oct 8, 2021 9:39 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

Well summarised. Monbiot’s article can pretty much be distilled down to the following: ‘Anyone who thinks like me is right, and anyone who doesn’t is wrong’. It’s pure egotism, no matter how much word salad it’s dressed up in.

What the world needs now is compassion, empathy, kindness and consideration for others. That’s the pathway out of the dystopia we’re currently plunging into.

someone
someone
Oct 8, 2021 9:45 AM
Reply to  Liverian

Exploitation of those emotions is exactly why we are here now.

Ian
Ian
Oct 8, 2021 2:52 PM
Reply to  someone

No, Liverian is absolutely right, as you are.
Mass misdirection and use of those emotions (one meaning of exploitation) through a global psy-op directed by the power/profit motivated totalitarian technocratic autocrats, who themselves have absolutely no such sentiments, are the causes behind our present global predicament.

And our only way out, our salvation from the dark cloud of evil, is the application those same basic human values, compassion, empathy, kindness and consideration for others.

It is useful to understand the power of mass psychology as applied to totalitarianism:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-why-do-so-many-still-buy-narrative/5757636

Perhaps, individually the best way of dealing with the pervasive invasion of insanity on every level personal and local and public, to dispel the specter of demons, is to maintain and hold sacred just those human values.

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Oct 8, 2021 4:01 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

Your shrewd observation, aspnaz, reminds me of something I and a great many people have noticed in recent years. Journalists and columnists, commentators and pundits of every stripe behave less and less like reporters – people tasked with bringing you the news – and more and more like hectoring scolds, lecturing nags, and petty dictators.

They no longer think it’s their job to conduct interviews and gather and synthesize facts, but rather to dictate to the public what we ought to think and how we ought to behave at all times. There is no journalism anymore*, just punditry. Even though the propagandistic dimension of the news was always there in abundance, they’ve now discarded even the slightest pretence of objectivity or neutrality and unabashedly, aggressively, overtly seek to humiliate, ruin, ostracize, and destroy whomever they deem an enemy of the corporate state.

Monbiot is a perfect fit for the new paradigm of “journalism,” as what he does isn’t journalism at all, which is exactly how the ruling classes like it.

  • except on the margins, of course, like with the OffGuardian
Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Oct 8, 2021 1:42 AM

“Left” and “Right” refer primarily to economic philosophies, not to authoritarian tendencies. Anti-authoritarianism is only associated with the left because for most — all — of our history our economy and our society have been dominated by “the Right”, that is capitalism in all its variations. Capitalism has an inherent dislike of socialism or any kind of organized labor so naturally when it it feels threatened it responds with all the tools of authoritarianism it has at its disposal. However, the right doesn’t have a monopoly over authoritarianism. Where ‘the Left’ finds itself in power and its power is threatened we get the same kinds of authoritarian responses as ‘the Right’ are well known for.

Even when the change of power is not from right to left, for example in Iran in 1979, all that happens is that the logo and management on the state security apparatus changes. Everything else stays the same. (True revolutionaries should cry off adopting any of the previous state’s systems of government but, well, there’s a country to run.)

So there really isn’t any meaningful right / left dichotomy with regard to something like Covid. All this bandying around of words like “Nazi” just demonstrates an ignorance of history, both political and social history. Its quite possible that cynical elements in power are quite aware of this and use the public’s imperfect understanding of political processes to steer argument, that’s the essence of propaganda after all. But — though we might have to live in this intellectual swamp there’s really no need to be taken in by it.

Anggerek
Anggerek
Oct 8, 2021 9:42 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Well said. I do find this left-right dichotomy quite tiresome.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Oct 8, 2021 12:36 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Agreed the ‘left’ is simply the reserve team of the traditional ”right”. That has been the case since the late 19th until the late 20th centuries. Being ever willing to rescue the capitalist system from its usual downswings in steps the left, usually in the shape of social-democratic organizations like the Labour party in the UK or the Democrats in the US. That gives the traditional right – the amalgam of big business interests and landowning classes with a willing political bureaucracy to rule the roost. The neo-right feels so confident of itself politically, economically and culturally that it has absorbed the traditional left which has become a barely differentiated part of the ruling centre-right blob.
These political behemoths now stand astride the new order like a set of ruling monarchs,

.

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Oct 8, 2021 7:06 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Superb comment. Wish I could give you 10 upvotes.

Savorywill
Savorywill
Oct 8, 2021 1:35 AM

It was George Monbidiot who really turned me off the Guardian which I used to regularly read, especially his promotion of nuclear power to combat ‘global warming’ even after Fukushima, which had a devastating impact on Japan, where I live.

Hard to find a more despicable ideologue than him, in my view.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Oct 8, 2021 2:13 AM
Reply to  Savorywill

“However, besides the corporate fascist eugenicist faker assholes down at the CUNY Grad Center, still has an audience and is a big hit with the ALIEN ZOMBIE PODS.
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“SHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIK!!!!!!!

Maiasta
Maiasta
Oct 8, 2021 4:03 PM
Reply to  Savorywill

The nuclear flip-flop was one of the issues that did most to discredit Monbiot, IMO. Another was his mendacious attacks on journalists who dissented from the dominant view on the Yugoslav wars (in particular Diana Johnstone & Ed Herman) accusing them of being “genocide deniers”. Monbiot’s long been a waste of space, but artciles like this one are useful for showing in detail why his arguments are so wrong-headed.

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Oct 8, 2021 7:14 PM
Reply to  Maiasta

See my reply to savorywill. IMHO, Nuclear was one of the few times Monbiot got it right. A stopped clock can be right twice a day.

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Oct 8, 2021 7:12 PM
Reply to  Savorywill

I can understand your point of view, but respectfully disagree.

Fukushima was caused by the wrong design in the wrong place. The way I heard it, it was designed by Americans as though it was going somewhere in an American desert, not in an earthquake- / Tsunami-prone area.

Nuclear power – done right – can be made safe. Not saying it’s always been done right though.

But when wind and solar prove inadequate (as they surely will) for the job of providing the bulk of our power when the gas runs out or is switched off, some people might start to regret that we didn’t have a bit more faith in nuclear power.

Justin
Justin
Oct 8, 2021 1:18 AM

It’s interesting that anybody who now dissents from the official agenda is immediately labelled “right” (if you talk dissent) or “extreme right” (if you participate in protests). That’s exactly the game Mao played in China labeling those who did not champion the official agenda as “rightists” – many were disappeared or banished to the countryside for 40 years before they could return to the cities – old souls by then.

It looks like that the MSM propaganda machine is all geared up to label those who dissent and protest as not only being right wing extremists but domestic terrorists as well.

I remember just after 9/11 reading the warnings of the more sober, learned and intelligent observers about how this manufactured war on terror would turn inward and become a domestic war OF terror on those who believed in the freedom of the individual.

Well here we are, we were warned (and most ignored or couldn’t care less) and now we are living the dream – the dream of the ruling psychopath class – it’s freedom alright, but just for them, the freedom to rape, pillage and plunder. For the great unwashed it’s gunna be a collective hell hole – a digital Mao’s China or a digital 4th Reich – take ya pick.

他妈的这些疯狂的混蛋

aspnaz
aspnaz
Oct 8, 2021 5:54 AM
Reply to  Justin

Christians are now right wing extremists, even though the UK still pretends to be a Christian country. The queen, as head of the church, is obviously Hitler and probably not vaccinated!

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Oct 8, 2021 10:57 AM
Reply to  Justin

Old bodies, J. Old souls are those who’ve already re-incarnated many times in the past.

Penelope
Penelope
Oct 8, 2021 1:11 AM
Ort
Ort
Oct 8, 2021 12:46 AM

I suppose I’ve read Monbiot articles over the years, but I mostly know him from recurring second-hand references to him in articles and comments. Now I can say, “Lucky me!”

Also, although it incredibly dates back to the beginning of the century, I learned somewhere that “Monbiot” is allegedly the origin of the then-popular right-wing commentariat epithet “moonbat”, i.e. a lunatic leftist. At the time, “moonbat” and “libtard” were heavily in use.

I don’t know whether Monbiot inspiring “moonbat” is factually true, or a myth. But one way or the other, it turns out that it’s fitting. Now he is a Left Behind lunatic.

Apocryphal or not, the epithet stood the test of time.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Oct 7, 2021 11:57 PM

Another annoyingly predictable interaction with a Branch Covidian (but one who nevertheless still values free speech!):

I posted something COVID-related in a forum where there is almost no mention whatsoever of the “pandemic.” The post was removed by a mod, who notified me of that deletion with the following comment:

Unfortunately I had to bin your post because I am not gonna endorse misinformation spread especially in this forum.
Thanks for understanding.

Aware of the fact that the site does not endorse censorship of that kind, I appealed to an admin, who undid the removal, and wrote back (along with apologizing for the mod’s behaviour),

In the moderator’s defence, I must say that we privately despise flat-Earthers, let alone corona-deniers and the damage they can still cause even after so many millions dead. And yet I do not support censorship, no matter what Facebook and other platforms do.

When I suggested that an apology would more appropriately come from the mod herself (though I did not expect this at all), this admin replied,

What I cannot do, and will never do, is force them to betray their beliefs and beat a dead horse so you can rejoice. When someone with children who have suffered the Covid in their family is told that all is a lie, the fierce reaction is visceral, not intellectual. So no, one million times sorry but she will not be asked to apologise.

I had offered her some links if she wished to investigate further, including one to the Corona Ausschuss video channel, one to Del Bigtree’s two hour interview with Mike Yeadon, and one to the covidvaccineinjuries telegram channel.

Her response:

You can read all you want from all sources and call it information, it is your right and your privilege and you will not be denied either. I can only tell you that not only is most of the information you mention half-truths but outright lies. I know it, I too am an insider: my own daughter is a microbiologist in the CDC and has been dealing with the coronavirus for two years. I know how much harder her work has been made by the deniers, particularly those with public clout. She and her colleagues are the real fighters, like the remaining Jews against the proud deniers of the Holocaust.

But again, and always: your prerogative

Today, in my inbox, another PM from her:

https://t.me/s/covidvaccineinjuries

By the way, this is a hoax, it was all over the news today

She seems to be in the UK, and is probably asleep now and therefore hasn’t yet responded to my request for a link; anyone here have any idea what she might have been referring to? Nothing came up when I did a search of the news (of course I highly doubt that what she is referring to has anything to do with that specific Telegram channel…).

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 8, 2021 8:28 AM

I must say that we privately despise flat-Earthers, let alone corona-deniers and the damage they can still cause even after so many millions dead.”

From that moment, if it wasn’t clear before, it was clear you were dealing with someone who wasn’t going to argue from an honest position and that they were designing carefully crafted manipulations.

I used to work in education and it was a professional in-joke that students who were particularly desperate or immoral would kill off a relative when in a corner. It relies on emotional blackmail and the fundamental decency of the questioner, a decency the one in the corner does not share and one that they regard as being for dupes and idiots. The only thing that is real in their world is to get their own way, their ‘will to power’.

They over-played their hand when they got Bowie to go on Sky News and “mourn” his own “death” (has anyone noticed that despite being “dead”, he’s managing to have a new album coming out?). Why anyone takes any claimed death from a mainstream source seriously now, I don’t know. The answer to “what’s 2+2?” isn’t “I watched my mother die of a brain tumour and it was very upsetting”.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Oct 8, 2021 12:25 PM
Reply to  Edwige

This was her reply to my request for a link re: the covid vaccine injuries site “hoax” (can’t say I’m terribly surprised…):

It was on TV, but I double checked later. I hope you understand Spanish

https://www.newtral.es/zona-verificacion/fakes/

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Oct 8, 2021 7:18 PM

I love the condescending “I hope you understand Spanish”, meaning “I read Spanish, and I’ll bet you don’t”. In any case, the appropriate reply is

“No, but I can use google translate so FRO!”. 🙂

Ort
Ort
Oct 8, 2021 8:48 PM

Alternatively, “No, pero puedo usar ‘Google Translate’ así que FRO!” 😉

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Oct 8, 2021 7:03 PM

You can read all you want from all sources and call it information, it is your right and your privilege and you will not be denied either. I can only tell you that not only is most of the information you mention half-truths but outright lies.

If it’s all outright lies, why have those self-declared authorities had such a hard time proving them to be such? Why has there been no open discussion and vigorous debate among the proponents of the various perspectives, but instead a remorseless wall of untelenting censorship?

I know it, I too am an insider: my own daughter is a microbiologist in the CDC and has been dealing with the coronavirus for two years. I know how much harder her work has been made by the deniers, particularly those with public clout. She and her colleagues are the real fighters, like the remaining Jews against the proud deniers of the Holocaust.

What a tiresomely condescending reply. It would never occur to this woman that “my own daughter is a microbiologist” is not a valid argument. So what exactly makes her daughter’s perspective more valid than anyone else’s?

    That’s the whole reality these Covid fanatics can’t seem to grasp: there is NOT a scientific consensus among experts that a global pandemic exists.

There are those who think Covid is a pure fabrication, a mirage generated by the PCR test.

There are those who think Covid exists but has been tremendously overblown, again due to the problematic PCR test.

There are those who think Covid is serious but the vaccines are dangerous and not a solution.

There are those who, like her daughter, think it’s this terrible, unparalleled global pandemic. Believing oneself to be a valiant hero and saviour of humanity is an intoxicating illusion.

But only category #4, the true believer, has been granted any kind of pulpit at all.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 7, 2021 11:50 PM

The venal are vacuous in their vanity.

John
John
Oct 7, 2021 11:50 PM

Wow! This dude sounds like a total f&ckwit