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“David’s Law”: How the Amess attack will be used to control the internet

The recent killing is already being used as ammunition to attack independent social media and the very idea of anonymity on the web.

Kit Knightly

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On October 15th Sir David Amess MP was attending a constituency “surgery” at Belfairs church in Leigh-on-Sea. During the meeting, a young man emerged from the crowd and stabbed the MP several times.

Ambulances and police were called. They attempted to revive him at the scene, but he was declared dead.

The suspect, meanwhile, made no attempt to flee. It has since been reported he is the son of a Somali politician, was known to the UK’s “Prevent” counter-terrorism programme, and was reportedly “radicalised online”.

The killing is being treated as a “terrorist incident”.

These are the alleged facts of the case as they have been released to the public.

Are they true? Maybe. Maybe not. It’s too early to say, and we’ll likely never know for sure. The truth is – for everyone outside the Amess family and friends – it really isn’t the most pressing issue. Whatever the reality of the “attack”, what we, the 99%, need to be most concerned about is the agenda coming in its wake

Real attack or not, false flag or not, the fallout is the same: Censorship, state control and “David’s Law”.

The Online Harms Bill

The first reaction to the Amess attack has been renewed coverage of, and loud calls for, the “online harms” bill to be put to a vote. All this despite there being no publicly released evidence linking the Amess attack to any “online harms” at all.

The “Online Harms Prevention Bill” is not in any way a response to Amess’ death and has actually been in development for a while. A white paper reporting the need for the bill was first published in April 2019, then updated in December 2020.

This was followed by a draft bill in May 2021 and then a report on “Regulating Online Harms”, published in August.

The Bill has existed for over eighteen months, and any attempts to link it to David Amess are purely manipulative tactics designed to force it through parliament on a wave of emotion.

It might be dismissed by some as ‘callous’ to talk about the alleged murder of a seemingly innocent person in terms of cynical agenda – but it’s the very opposite. It’s an expression of concern and social responsibility. The establishment uses these events as gambits, so we have to get used to reading them as such if we want to protect the rights and freedoms that will be freshly attacked.

We’re already seeing a deluge of coverage in the press talking up the dangers of our “toxic political discourse” and the threat that “divisive polarised speech” poses because it can “radicalise” people and “create the climate where violence becomes inevitable”.

The Mirror warns of an increase in “bedroom radicals” thanks to lockdowns. The Guardian echoes this, claiming “online hate” is “nastier than ever” and “action is required”.

The Telegraph headlines: “Social media companies ‘must do more’ to protect MPs from online hate”

Politicians are likewise prepping the ground for the bill to pass.

Deputy Prime Minister and Justice Secretary Dominic Raab went on Sky News to talk about “online hate” being “out of control”.

Sir Keir Starmer, leader of the supposed “opposition”, used the first PMQs since the attack to rail against the lack of regulation of the internet and call for something to be done. Boris has already committed to bringing the “Online Harms” vote forward “before Christmas” when it was previously expected to wait until at least spring of 2022.

So, what’s in this bill?

Nothing much that hasn’t been said before. The White Paper and report proselytise about the need to protect children, women, ethnic minorities and “the vulnerable” from “hate”. The bill itself suggests a new “statutory duty of care” for the internet, and a new “regulatory body” with a “suite of powers” to ensure companies fulfil this “duty of care”.

There are chapters dedicated to actual crimes, such as child pornography and threats of violence, but also much murkier “harms” described as “legal but harmful”. These include, but are not limited to, “disinformation” and “bullying”. As always, the language of legislature is deliberately obscure, shrouded in the muddied meaning of bureaucratic double-talk.

One concrete, and concerning, clause would grant OfCom the power to demand private user information from internet providers and social media companies (although we do know they do this already).

But the most dangerous part of the bill may not even be written yet…

“David’s Law”

Within days of the news breaking Tory MPs were calling on Boris Johnson to enact “David’s Law”.

“David’s Law” would be either new legislation or a “strengthening” of the current proposed legislation, to totally remove online anonymity.

Tory MP Mark Francois, said in a speech to the Commons:

So let’s put, if I may be so presumptuous, David’s Law onto the statute book, the essence of which would be that while people in public life must remain open to legitimate criticism, they can no longer be vilified or their families subject to the most horrendous abuse, especially from people who hide behind a cloak of anonymity with the connivance of the social media companies for profit.”

Priti Patel is already “considering” taking away the “right to anonymity online”.

Other politicians, including Dominiic Raab and Lindsey Hoyle, the speaker of the house, have expressed total agreement.

Politico headlines the UK is “wrestling with anonymity”.

But what exactly would “ending anonymity” entail? That’s not clear. The white paper discusses how “anonymous accounts” can be used to “hide illegal activity”, and that companies should do more to prevent this, but there is nothing in there about outright banning them.

Any such formal ban would involve amending the bill, or writing a new one. Hence we have talk in parliament of “strengthening” the proposed legislation, but does that mean a ban? Perhaps, perhaps not.

A more likely (and more British) approach, as we are already seeing with vaccine passports, would be to make it an informal ban by pressuring the companies themselves to act outside of legislative compulsion. Parliament will author new “guidance” or “recommendations” on the opening of social media accounts, without ever enforcing them as law.

But partner this with steep fines for illegal activity, “hate speech” or “misinformation”, along with the proposal to make platforms criminally liable for “harmful content”, and companies become their own strict censors in the name of protecting their profit margin.

This is not a fringe theory at all, David Davis MP of all people, described exactly this process in warning that the online harms bill could become a “censor’s charter”.

It’s not hard to see how that system could be used to totally remove the idea of online anonymity without ever making it actually illegal, but rather making it too financially risky. Thus skirting any accusations of state censorship or authoritarianism.

We already know major internet players work hand-in-glove with governments all over the world, so they can be relied upon to enforce any new “duty of care” regulations. But the smaller competitors, who use privacy as a major selling point, can expect to be put in the media crosshairs.

Enter Telegram.

The war on Telegram

Telegram, for those who aren’t familiar, is an encrypted private messaging service created by Russian Pavel Durov. It became the go-to encrypted service after Facebook bought Whatsapp, and its “channel” feature is a very useful way to communicate with thousands upon thousands of people at once. During the “pandemic” it has become a hub for those organizing protests and broadcasting information banned from mainstream platforms.

All of that has clearly put it on the state’s hit list, because somehow, in all the outpouring of emotion following Amess’ stabbing, it is Telegram that comes in for specific criticism.

To be clear: Telegram is not yet known to have played any part whatsoever in the attack on David Amess. None. It’s not even known whether or not the alleged killer had a telegram account.

Despite this, yesterday in Parliament, Sir Keir Starmer attacked Telegram as the “app of choice for extremists”.

Interestingly, he was citing a report from the NGO Hope Not Hate which was released on October 13th, just two days before Amess was stabbed.

In fact, Telegram has been the subject of ongoing media smears for years, and these have only intensified in the last few days.

Back in 2016, Gizmodo was telling people they should “delete telegram right now”, ironically because it wasn’t really encrypted enough. This story was repeated by Vice in November 2020 and then Wired in January of this year.

Also in January, following the “riot” on Capitol Hill, Telegram was accused of being a safe haven for the “far-right”.

Vox headlined:

Why right-wing extremists’ favorite new platform is so dangerous

The Washington Post went with:

Far-right groups move online conversations from social media to chat apps — and out of view of law enforcement

In April Forbes reported that Telegram was “dangerous”. In May it was a platform “where cyber criminals share stolen data”. And then in June the New York Times called it a “misinformation hotspot”.

A September article in Politico accuses Telegram of allowing “misinformation” intended to influence the recent German election.

Also in September, the Financial Times called Telegram a new “dark web for cyber criminals”.

And an October article in Wired accuses the platform of being a “cesspool of antisemtic content”.

It goes on and on and on.

Perhaps most tellingly, Telegram is regularly blamed for Covid-related “misinformation”, along with selling fake Vaccine passes and allowing “threats to NHS workers”.

Are you seeing the pattern?

Well…are you?

Although all this is framed as a response to the death of David Amess, none of it has yet been shown to have any relevance to the Amess case at all, and all of it predates the murder happening.

The online harms bill is almost three years old, the attacks on Telegram have been going on for over a year, and you can find a steady stream of media attacks on online anonymity going back over a decade.

As so often, the “reaction” to this “problem” is selling us a “solution” they’ve had planned for years.

Since at least 2016 MPs have been talking about “reclaiming the net”, while outlets like The Guardian have been talking about creating “the web we want”, and producing tortured statistical reports to paint the web as a dangerous place.

(Interesting note: those butchered “statistics” are referenced in the Online Harms white paper, a little incite into the self-sustaining nature of propaganda).

The lesson we should all learn: “Policy” is never a response, policy is an aim, a predetermined conclusion.

It is decided and written, and then the “reality” that justifies that policy is constructed, either through opportunistic use of real tragedies, cultivated public opinion, false-flag attacks or pure invention.

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Ludovic Noble
Ludovic Noble
Nov 5, 2021 10:26 AM

Sign petition against Online Safety Bill:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/588769

Timothy Madden
Timothy Madden
Oct 25, 2021 6:50 PM

The final-countdown began in 1981 when the C in right of Canada breached its contract with the People under the Bill of Rights to revive the unlawful, illegal, and scandalously wrongful practice of non obstante – meaning giving de facto permission to friends of the C to violate the civil law – and then extended into the criminal law realm, so that private financial institutions could violate the then new international anti-money-laundering and anti-racketeering law with impunity. YEE-HAW! Let’s Party! And party they did.

Not quite ten years later in 1990 as the so-called legal system began to truly unravel, the judges of the appellate courts including and especially the Supreme Court “fixed it” by unanimously holding that criminal acts committed by corporate offenders are not illegal because the criminal law only provides for “severe punishment” of offenders but does not otherwise directly state: Don’t do it!

Not a single judge in the entire system said: “Hey! That’s batsh*t crazy and I am not going to follow it.”

You have to get your mind into a minimum 50-year mindset / frame-of-reference. Once you do it all becomes obvious.

“Praying for a miracle” under the home menu at the werex website, which is an org-site and not a com-site.

TexasRepublic
TexasRepublic
Oct 25, 2021 3:29 PM

Along with everything contributed by Neil Postman, the following has been one of the most valuable idea resources to ever land on my bookshelf. I wish I had time to share with you all, but for now:

870″>https://www.routledge.com/Technology-as-Symptom-and-Dream/Romanyshyn/p/book/9780415007870

marlene
marlene
Oct 25, 2021 11:21 AM

It’s anger, not hate! First they divide us by gender, race, political views, vaccines, religion, to turn us against each other & when we express our anger, they call it hate speech. Second, this administration’s talking heads threaten our health, our prosperity, our safety & security, our future, and when we complain in anger, they call it hate speech. These are the problems they deliberately created in order to force their “solution” which came before the problems because they planned it all along!

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Oct 23, 2021 8:28 PM

MEPs press conference on the abusive use of Green Certificate – European Parliament

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Oct 23, 2021 9:16 PM

Sorry. That didn’t work

Try again

If you don’t see EU parliament video, this link has been messed about with

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Oct 23, 2021 9:18 PM

If it still doesn’t work search :
MEPs press conference on the abusive use of Green Certificate – European Parliament

MBJ
MBJ
Oct 23, 2021 9:38 AM

Last Saturday, a BBC online report about Amess being stabbed, but not yet dead used the past tense when Referring to the MP. Odd.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 23, 2021 8:55 AM

Here’s a piece of filth:

https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/mike-answers-all-your-vaccine-fears

Mike Answers All Your Vaccine Fears

 
What I love about this is the way Mikey keeps emphasising his rebel credentials and how much he hates “The Man” only this time – just this time, you understand – “The Man” happens to be right!

Read it and vomit!

MBJ
MBJ
Oct 23, 2021 9:35 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Thanks, Mikey. Really helpful. I will now get my vaccine.

Ort
Ort
Oct 23, 2021 7:39 PM
Reply to  George Mc

FWIW, a passing facile analysis of the odious Moore:

I think he started out with a modicum of authentic rebelliousness. His early activism, in the form of street-theater stunts combined with filmmaking, bespoke a nascent radical sensibility in the broad sense of the term.

But he was raised in a working-class liberal household, in the era when the Democratic Party, aka the Party of Judas, most successfully sustained the illusion that it was the party of the Common Man– and consequently the friend and ally of Unions, and labor’s nominal political arm.

Success and fame, and eventual financial prosperity, fed his moderate “work within the system” soul at the expense of his nascent quasi-radicalism. Once he became a celebrity “rebel”, the co-opted Moore also readily assumed the sociopolitical function of (self-appointed) Spokesman for, or Personification of, the Oppressed Little Guy; he became a would-be Influencer and “role model”.

His filmmaking reflected his more radical perceptions, but he quickly degenerated into a typical electoral-politics Judas goat; not unlike, say, Noam Chomsky, Moore reflexively espoused the shopworn fraud of lesser-evil “strategic voting”, ostensibly to effect incremental change favorable to “progressive values”. 

One of the stock nostrums of moderate lesser-evil dogma is exactly what you mention: the advice to hold one’s nose and vote for X, or jump on some dubious bandwagon, is always reinforced by the mollifying qualification that it is a one-time, exceptional demand required by extraordinary dire circumstances. It’s always “in this crucial election” or “in the face of this appalling crisis”.

Time-servers like Moore (and Chomsky, et al) seem indifferent or oblivious that this shtick reaches a point of diminishing returns. When it’s perpetrated in the US electoral context, they essentially repeat the same tired rationale as if it’s novel. They don’t seem to know or care that over time, it becomes more and more obvious that those who fraudulently and speciously cry “Wolf!” over and over are the actual wolves in Concerned Citizen clothing. 

Moore’s career arc isn’t exactly like Young Elvis vs. Old Elvis, but there’s a parallel.

Michael
Michael
Oct 23, 2021 8:30 AM

Comment .

Rose
Rose
Oct 23, 2021 2:38 AM

I think people are losing site of some basic points here. Those who are collecting all of this information do not control anything, they rely on tech people to do the work and they rely on real world enforcers to do their dirty work. These individuals have constructed a system which basically betrays their own people and over reaches to try to subjugate the whole world. They can’t even get their friggin contact tracing apps to work. Yeah, they will collect data which require mass storage and water facilities to cool and there are so many inherent weaknesses, it is kind of absurd. All of this focus on how they are going to get us really gives them way too much credit and takes the focus away from the fact ‘they’ really can’t do much as the world turns against them. This is not what anyone wants even most of the people going along to get along. So, let’s stop handing them power which is actually ares and understand as they launch this – there is going to be a figurative death by a thousand cuts as ‘they’ are undermined at every turn. I can’t even imagine the level of mutiny they already have on their hands with ‘their’ own people. Reimagine the world you want and it will unfold. We have got to get past this handringing

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Oct 23, 2021 1:41 AM

As we enter the flu season, here’s the WHO pretending to answer a simple, obvious and important question:

WHO: How to distinguish between Flu and Covid-19 (video interview, 4m 27s):
https://www.independent.ie/videos/who-how-to-distinguish-between-flu-and-covid-19-40974850.html

Are you any the wiser?

Seriously. This is their best effort. This is TheScience™.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Oct 23, 2021 1:52 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

It’s really instructive. It shows that the emperor really is bare naked.

Only for 41 seconds (from 0:33 to 1:16) do they even pretend to be answering the question. The one alleged difference they name is just a plain and obvious lie.

I’m kind of dumbfounded that they actually released this.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Oct 23, 2021 2:47 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

+1

It’s an embarrassing watch and no mistake.

Still, they have a faithful flock which will overlook such detail as lack of credible information.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Oct 23, 2021 3:21 AM
Reply to  JohnEss

It’s not just some inconsequential “detail”, though; it’s a plain and obvious lie. The WHO is claiming that people with flu never lose their sense of taste or smell. The WHO is asserting that this very common symptom of the flu is in fact a unique & defining characteristic of some new and terrifying disease called “Covid19”.

And this blatant lie is all they have to offer! Nothing else!

What truly frightens me is not any damn virus, but the apparent fact that adults in 2021 can watch & listen to this garbage (an official WHO release) and notice nothing wrong with it.

We are indeed drifting into the arena of the unwell.

JustANumbersGuy
JustANumbersGuy
Oct 23, 2021 5:36 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

I demand to have some booze

jimbo
jimbo
Oct 23, 2021 8:06 AM

just say KNOW to pharmaKOMA lies

DEFEND JULIAN or perish

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Oct 23, 2021 12:49 PM

here hare here

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 23, 2021 9:23 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

It’s downright embarrassing. It’s as if a tiny party of chancers had taken over all of the airwaves and were now simply turning every article into a blatant sales pitch. Maybe covid is a vast experiment like Milgram.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Oct 23, 2021 9:46 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

I lose my sense of smell everytime I get a damn cold and everything tastes like chaff, they really are deranged.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 23, 2021 12:07 PM

Being able to smell through a clogged nose and sinuses would be an exception.

Grafter
Grafter
Oct 23, 2021 12:36 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

👍

Rose
Rose
Oct 23, 2021 2:39 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

What’s going on with this new system, pending approval now for basic comments with no links and ending the voting system.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Oct 23, 2021 4:13 AM
Reply to  Rose

Yes. Pretty annoying.

Cori
Cori
Oct 23, 2021 6:10 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

I agree.

jimbo
jimbo
Oct 23, 2021 8:12 AM
Reply to  Cori

Perhaps EYEvaX is now in KawnTroll . . . ore could it be VIKI

booster booster booster booster 4 da lemmings

but what if? . . . . .

Watt
Watt
Oct 23, 2021 11:43 AM
Reply to  Rose

+10

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 23, 2021 9:18 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

“Stick with Science”! Well what did “Science” just say there? Note the title of the video:

How to distinguish between Flu and Covid-19

 
And note the length of the video: about 4 and a half minutes. Plenty of time to explain, you’d think. Actually far too much as it turns out. The contrast is “explained” within the opening seconds – or rather, the contrast is mentioned. After which we move on to reassuring everyone how safe the vaccine is.

And what is the contrast? Covid means you lose your sense of smell and taste. Well oddly enough that also happens with the flu and even the common cold. Your nose gets blocked up and that’s all it takes.

Now this is one thing I don’t understand. My blandly trusting friends and family would happily swallow this video without even noticing the utter vacuity of it. And if I pointed out the emptiness, they would roll their eyes and once again treat me like a little child for just not comprehending etc.

Someone (possibly OffG itself) mentioned how all it took for the majority to rest assured with the media is some nice faces and concerned voices. So here.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 23, 2021 1:23 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

It really is a good one, Patrick. Love it!

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Oct 23, 2021 2:00 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

It’s prompted the thought of a neologism:

covid-speak or covid-babble

Any other suggestions?

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Oct 23, 2021 12:24 AM

I never thought of not doing, but we did split up 42 years ago,,and had no contact for many years. Like us, she had two kids, but never changed her surname, though she is still with the father of her kids…

He drove her to the show- Cambridge Rock Festival anout 10 years, but I didn’t seem him, he just dropped her outside in a Torrential Thunderstorm. The Festival wasn’t open then, but she did have a ticket to get in.

She texted me in my tent. I was amazed she turned up.

I was meeting my Ex – I han’t seen her for 30 years

She still looked almost exactly the same, but totally drenched

We hugged, There was nothing else I could do with this very wet girl, except to invitie her into our tent, to meet my wife still half asleep…

Its hard to explain, what my wife is like….but they got on incredibly well.

Who else would put up with me?

Still occasionally keep in contact.

Me ex has gone Vegan..She used to eat lambs liver when she was with me…

She goes on Protests – Campaigning in London, for WASPI’s..not that it had the slightest effect ..So now she goes on Animal Rights Protests, and was a big supporter of Geronimo – the Alpaca executed for failing a DNA test for years ago.

She is very fit, totally beautiful , and most certainly hasn’t lost her spark…but she keeps telling me, she is going to get jabbed again

She always had a great sense of humour

From her latest texts, I think she is beginning to agree with me, or completely taking the piss about get jabbed again

If I can save one life, on this God Forsaken Earth, trying to convince them not to get jabbed again.

I just happen to really like her.

But if it is about Animal Rights it wouldn’t surprise me, if it’s My Ex sat in The Road in front of The Car, getting Nudged Forward

She might be 66 years old, but she has always been Fit and Beautiful, and never lacking in Courage.

My wife and I like Alpaccas too. but it’s 4 Barnsleys Lamb Chops for our evening meal tommorow with Chips and Veg, and maybe a Bottle of Red Wine

Is there anything on, or should we stay in watching Casualty or Strictly Come Dancing???

I am staying in with my wife, so far as I know, but she occasionally comes up with this great idea

I just say, I am not going if I have to be tested, jabbed or wear a mask

So who’s on then?

Where are we going??

I don’t do Aggro.

Tony

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2021 11:44 PM

Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar on BBC question time: “We know who is not vaccinated, we know where they live, and we should be looking at door to door vaccinations”.

When do you think all these dedicated champions of the people – WSW, Jacobin, Redflag etc. – will come out and openly support these kind of statements? When will they at least have the decency to be candid enough to admit their logic and openly state that all the unvaccinated are Evil Far Right Wing Fascist Nazi Thugs?  

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Oct 23, 2021 1:21 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Did he really say that? “We know where they live”?

If he did, and if he got away with it, then the law in Scotland is as dead as the pretence of democracy. It’s thug rule now. .

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 23, 2021 9:00 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Look here:

https://twitter.com/Kukicat7/status/1451615821248319491

And also note my shameless copy/pasting of the tweet itself. Yes, I did it with you all those years ago and I’m still doing it!

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Oct 23, 2021 12:43 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“Mr Sarwar, we know who is threatening to attack us and our children in our own homes, we know where these petty-fascist politicians live, and if the police won’t do their job we should be looking at door-to-door citizens’-arrest teams”.

Imagine the outrage if you gave that reply to Sarwar. You’d be accused of “hate speech” before you’d finished speaking. A heavily-armed SWAT team would storm the studio, force you to the floor and give you the Jean-Charles de Menezez treatment. Sarwar would thank them effusively for enforcing “David’s Law”.

It would make great TV. The audience would lap it up.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2021 11:37 PM

It’s a rich tapestry – and yet it seems to be woven from a single thread:

https://time.com/6108945/climate-change-viruses-health/

“Climate Change Threatens to Spread Viruses Through an Unprepared World
Climate change is creating ideal conditions for infectious-disease transmission and the world’s health-care systems aren’t ready for the shock it will cause, according to a new study.”

Ah see what they did there? “Climate change/virus/ climate change/ virus/ climate change /virus/ climate change …”

“After nations largely failed the stress test of Covid-19,…”

“Stress test”? My, they are getting brazen now!

“…a novel virus,…”

Well, if you say so!

“…decades of progress to control age-old illnesses such as malaria, dengue fever and cholera are under threat unless leaders commit to more ambitious climate plans, …”

What? Connection, please?

“…the Lancet said in a study Wednesday. The medical journal’s sixth annual report, named The Lancet Countdown, tracks 44 indicators of health impacts …”

Cue William Tell Overture as we head into the Big Gish Gallop! What’s that? You dare to question us? Well go away and study all 44 indicators before you are even allowed to speak!
 
“…that are directly linked to climate change and highlights worsening social inequalities.”

Ah – a third ingredient to add to climate change and virus: social inequalities.

See the rich tapestry? Yes! See the connection? No! Oh well that’s because we’re using the same thread i.e. the thread of our one obsession i.e. our power and how to maintain it!

MaryLS
MaryLS
Oct 23, 2021 4:16 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I no longer trust The Lancet. Some f what they publish is deliberate propaganda.

jimbo
jimbo
Oct 23, 2021 8:15 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

Lanshitt

bought a paid for pharmaKoma bullsplatt

Michael
Michael
Oct 23, 2021 8:55 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

Former Minister of Health ( France ) confirming your reservations …https://www.bitchute.com/video/lD4SVIEH1vdi/

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Oct 23, 2021 3:25 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Clearly, if social inequalities are such a threat to existence and the state of nature, all the world’s top billionaires and richly remunerated politicians will of course be willing to sacrifice their gargantuan fortunes for the greater good. Clearly, since they are all such magnanimous and philanthropic individuals, and not at all hypocritical, they won’t hesitate to help create a world without plutocracy, since they’ve spent so much time sounding the alarm about social inequalities.

It’s so reassuring to live in a world where plutocrats and politicians are driven by such noble goals and desire to protect the public from any harm.

May Hem
May Hem
Oct 22, 2021 11:27 PM

Terrific video from Aussie doctor Judy Wilyman. She speaks so clearly, mainly about vaccinations and their results. I am impressed.

https://rumble.com/vnzaz6-covid-truth-with-dr-judy-wilyman-must-watch.html?fbclid=IwAR3QBhSqXFsDCF7xeKFsUHFm5zNoi8SlAemeex9NadmFqU2RQEhOnNSsSnU

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 23, 2021 8:15 AM
Reply to  May Hem

An EXCELLENT video May.
Thank you 🙂

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Oct 23, 2021 12:54 PM
Reply to  Johnny

About time

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 24, 2021 12:26 AM
Reply to  May Hem

Thank you

Vagabard
Vagabard
Oct 22, 2021 9:27 PM

A ‘celebrity’ (perhaps an MP or royalty) visited where I live today. I don’t (to this hour) know who precisely.

I only knew because of hordes of security types (patrolling police + armed guys) within at least (literally) a half mile radius to protect someone, they would not dare announce the name of. And I’m talking many many armed officers. Clearly visible. Closer to the locality there were at least 20.

I asked one who it was. Wouldn’t state. Wouldn’t dare. although he said ‘I could watch’.

I hung around for 5 minutes, trying to catch a glimpse. And then got bored. And then wandered off…

So why so many lives dedicated to defending someone who likely just simply spouts Big Pharma shite from a ‘Day of the Jackal’ type attack?

Someone whose thoughts are given to them, and thus replacable by a similar stooge.

Made me think about the nature of fame

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Oct 22, 2021 8:39 PM

So now the fuckers in Australia want to keep children out until they have two dangerous jabs, they are endangering healthy children now and using them as human shields.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Oct 22, 2021 10:20 PM

And people in Brisbane have been masked for nearly 3 months now. For nothing. Nothing but the reminder that the QLD gov are looking after you. The QR code scanning and mask wearing are epic here. And from what I see, people are running to get injected.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Oct 23, 2021 9:49 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Same in SA, they muzzled over 12’s for months, finally the kids will be unmuzzled from Monday, the whole pandemic in SA didn’t even register apart from mindless hysteria, and it’s clear the jabbed are the sick and dying in NSW and Victoria.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Oct 22, 2021 7:36 PM

So everyone, who has not been brainwashed, and still has a functioning brain (probably a bit depressed most of the time – which is only natural a reaction to This Shitshow)

Wants a LABEL for The Evil Bastards Trying To Kill us All – Clear The Planet of Us Useless Eaters……

Well, I am in with Laura Dodsworth. She actually Got her Worked Published in The Daily Telegraph. (I had bought her book, and haven’t finished it yet – but its really good on the Number 1 Evil Bastards, even though I don’t agree withe everything she writes…)

No 1 PSYCHOLOGISTS

You Changed My Mind

You are Now My Choice for this…

You Come before The Press, The Presidents, and all the Rest of You Evil Bastards, to Stand Trial For War Crimes Against Humanity

Tony Blair can come Next after you evil Bastards

Whilst Laura Dodsworth is a real journalist and Interviews You and Describes You..Writes about it and gets it Published…using your own real names and words

That is Class

She might get my Journalist of the Year yet – She is very good.

I can read.

She has exposed who is in Control of This Mess.

No 1 PSYCHOLOGISTS – Most Evil Bastards on The Planet

https://www.lauradodsworth.com/

She is cute too.

Tony

shamen
shamen
Oct 22, 2021 7:28 PM

well done OFFG A Compliment Where a Compliment is Due

Junkies bastard on the forum who need their approval fix may be confused why they cant vote yet can rate the article. as mention they still very much under severe mind control and cant see that its apart of the priming for credit social system on steroids just like the 6 email and texts one gets when they get a fucking parcel
RATE THIS SERVICE wil soon be – are you happy to die do your civil duty to help reduce Carbon admissions to save the planet.

Vote now.l savage addiction

DJ Shite in The Bucket – Junkies Bastard (Original Mix)


George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2021 6:46 PM

Uncle Graud, tell me what’s happening!

“English schools struggle to cope as Covid wreaks havoc

Despite government narrative of a return to normality, schools in areas with high Covid rates lack support

Britain must control Covid now – or face a winter lockdown

With Covid infections rising, the Tories are conducting a deadly social experiment

The ‘personal responsibility’ mantra has gone hand in hand with more deaths. Why has England gone along with it?”

Ooh I see a pattern here!

Tories are implementing Right Wing policies which fail to tackle covid!

And because of them, England is on a pathway to disaster!

Not like Socialist Scotland where all the people are behaving responsibly by burying their faces in masks forever and ever!

That’s why in England the cases are surging and spurting and ejaculating and cumming in all directions!

That’s why the Tories because of their Evil Selfish Right Wing Fascist Nazi Denialist approach are killing everyone with THE BIG SURGY SPURTY THING!

Ooh Left Wing Brothers of the world unite and cut your own balls off – it’s the responsible way to behave!

Conclusion: This will take a new Trotsky! This will take a new Lenin! This will take … Kier Starmer!

Keir is a man of the people! Kier is progressive! Keir will unite us all and bow to our demand to cover all faces forever, mutilate all our genitalia, and make the world safe forever!

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Oct 22, 2021 6:56 PM
Reply to  George Mc

PRESS BULLETIN 22 October 2021, 13.00 | COVID-19 official news (stirioficiale.ro)

f the 357 deaths, 4 were recorded in the age category 30-39 years, 14 in the age category 40-49 years, 40 in the age category 50-59 years, 78 in the age category 60-69 years, 128 in the age category 70-79 years and 93 in the age category over 80 years.
 
261 of the recorded deaths are of patients who had comorbidities, 19 deceased patients did not have comorbidities, and for 77 deceased patients no comorbidities have been reported so far.
A death prior to the reference interval was reported in Maramureș County in September 2021. In the reference range, 356 deaths were reported.
 
Of the total 357 deceased patients, 324 were unvaccinated and 33 vaccinated. The 33 deceased patients vaccinated were aged 40-49 and over 80. 27 of the deceased patients vaccinated had comorbidities, and for 6 deceased patients no comorbidities were reported. —With 0 context BBC announced nearly 400 deaths a day from covid, this tells a different story. Almost all old and sick as usual but the young are clearly dying from the jabs just as the are everywhere else.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Oct 22, 2021 11:00 PM
Reply to  George Mc

That’s why in England the cases are surging and spurting and ejaculating and cumming in all directions!
That’s why the Tories because of their Evil Selfish Right Wing Fascist Nazi Denialist approach are killing everyone with THE BIG SURGY SPURTY THING!

+10 for the S. Cooper imitation! 😀

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 23, 2021 12:27 AM

The difference is that he means his explosions as direct personal expressions. I was commenting on the manipulations of the media.

New Nane
New Nane
Oct 23, 2021 1:09 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Trotsky and Lenin are probably cheering from their air conditioned corner of Hell.

Thom
Thom
Oct 22, 2021 6:13 PM

I wouldn’t worry about it This is a smokescreen that gets trotted out every time there is a state-sponsored act of terrorism. The idea is to keep people debating the issue of online freedom rather than asking questions about the actual atrocity, the many inconsistencies, and the lack of a proper investigation by Mi5 and the police. I’m assuming that this assassination was the Tory controllers in the US throwing their weight around again, as their covid scam implodes worldwide, although it’s not the only possibility.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2021 6:06 PM

Q: Why do all these politicians wear masks?

A: To hide their mocking smiles!

Arby
Arby
Oct 23, 2021 6:56 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Smiling, smirking sociopaths is sort of the theme of my latest blog post.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Oct 22, 2021 5:43 PM

Slightly off-topic, but just look at this.

Vera Sharav: Auschwitz Did Not Begin With Auschwitz: Unmasking Ominous Parallels ( Truth Over Fear summit 2021)
As this courageous lady was speaking I was beginning to feel my blood coming to the boil.

fame
fame
Oct 22, 2021 7:33 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

I found a link for the video here. A great breakdown of the scamdemic.
https://www.patrickcoffin.media/vera-sharav-usa-auschwitz-did-not-begin-with-auschwitz/

Arby
Arby
Oct 23, 2021 6:57 AM
Reply to  Donald Duck

There’s good material on her website (that I’ve used), but she’s trapped within Rockefeller health care dogma.

Tony_0pmoc
Tony_0pmoc
Oct 22, 2021 4:56 PM

Interesting discussion. In fact I was getting a bit pissed off, but then I just across this. I know I shouldn’t have laughed, but I did. Still am. Sorry, Tony

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“Cold War Steve: How the Banksy of Twitter turned Covid angst into art”
https://www.joe.co.uk/news/cold-war-steve-how-the-banksy-of-twitter-turned-covid-angst-into-art-294820

Corarden
Corarden
Oct 22, 2021 3:53 PM
Corarden
Corarden
Oct 22, 2021 3:50 PM
shamen
shamen
Oct 22, 2021 3:38 PM

If it looks like a shill , walks like a shill and quacks like a shill, then it’s a shill ” 

The message it self just like SIR swine keeps the hypnosis on the illusion that demonamockascam and voting works. The pipe piper personalty’s of CIA mossad special branch funded alt media outlets sell this shit day in day out with their shabby reporting. It is deliberate and worse still YOU repeat it. 

Sir Conservative MP anti big pharma anti lockdown anti mask – ring a bell.???
where did i hear that before……………………………….??

He is also apart of The COVID Recovery Group (god help you if this is their help)
If your repeating it, you not learnt your lesson again.

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aspnaz
aspnaz
Oct 22, 2021 3:04 PM

No up/down votes allowed? Who’s pulling your chain?

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 22, 2021 3:12 PM
Reply to  aspnaz

Get in line.
This is now old.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Oct 23, 2021 4:29 AM
Reply to  wardropper

I thought they were still evaluating. I don’t know how they might determine that not having the vote option is a good thing given all the complaints. Hope they reinstate it soon.

JustANumbersGuy
JustANumbersGuy
Oct 23, 2021 5:43 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

Set dopamine receptors to full!

Arby
Arby
Oct 23, 2021 7:00 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

Well, I guess that you can try manipulating them that way. I don’t know why they would even consider re-instating a feature that they themselves acknowledge is abused.

Why would anyone normal having a normal discussion need up and down votes? Why? A discussion involves: WORDS.

Ort
Ort
Oct 23, 2021 7:04 PM
Reply to  MaryLS

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Lysias
Lysias
Oct 22, 2021 2:15 PM

David Ammes chaired hearings against vaccine passports.

aspnaz
aspnaz
Oct 22, 2021 3:01 PM
Reply to  Lysias

And voted for both Iraq and Libya, the man was a murderer and a monster. I hope he fries in hell in the cheapest fat available.

Carnyx
Carnyx
Oct 22, 2021 2:10 PM

Britain: A Land Without Truth
Morgoth’s Review



Spot on!

Carnyx
Carnyx
Oct 22, 2021 2:13 PM
Reply to  Carnyx

“Dead Internet Theory”

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 22, 2021 3:09 PM
Reply to  Carnyx

Very good.
It’s funny to hear a Geordie with such a broad accent speak such grammatically excellent English. (I’m a Geordie myself, so I reserve the right to find it funny…)

All this one needs to do is fix his pronunciation of “Solzhenitsyn”…
Other than that, I’m with him all the way.

New Nane
New Nane
Oct 23, 2021 1:26 AM
Reply to  Carnyx

Good video overall but no mention of convid.

Carnyx
Carnyx
Oct 23, 2021 10:39 AM
Reply to  New Nane

A commentary doesn’t need to sometimes… a good example

When ”Experts” Banned The Colour Yellow…



You all know what he’s talking about

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Oct 22, 2021 1:23 PM

Kon Karapanagiotidis

@Kon__K
·
11h

We are running another #Covid_19 vaccination clinic today for people seeking asylum at the @ASRC1
with our incredible nurses working side by side with the amazing nurses from @StVincentsMelb
today. The power of community in action – yet another illegal action by a fucking so called human rights lawyer drug pushing fucker

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 22, 2021 3:07 PM

This piece of shit is in breach of the Nuremburg Code. And he will have the deaths of human beings on his hands. I vividly remember the disgusting tweet you posted from him a couple of weeks ago.
I was actually in that suburb today not far from his friggin death jab “clinic”.
What the hell is it about Melbourne that it is just crawling with these types.
They’re not even of the Left. I would say they’re neoliberalised, globalised progressives who act as gatekeepers and safety valves for the system.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Oct 22, 2021 3:56 PM
Reply to  Gezzah Potts

He’s Greek, the nursing home that murdered the most old people was run by Greeks. For any human rights lawyer to peddle this crap when he has no idea what he is doing, he’s the prick who had me permanently kicked off twitter. He has no idea of the side effects of this poison and doesn’t bother to ask

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 22, 2021 1:06 PM

Underlying the attack on social media is their stated goal of “re-building trust” (aka blind obedience). Coincidentally, the WEF and Schwab have had plenty to say about this, for example today:

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/08/5-ways-to-rebuild-trust-in-a-complex-world/?utm_source=hootsuite&utm_medium=social_video&utm_term=1_1&utm_content=24161_worlds_most_trusted_profession&utm_campaign=social_video_2021

They claim doctors are still the most trusted profession globally at 64%. I can only assume most of these people are lucky enough never to have had to deal with a doctor much. Still, I suspect that figure was much higher not that long ago.

This is particularly interesting:
“To be open about our own mistakes will not drive others away. Instead it will resonate with them, and they will recognize themselves in you.”

Expect to see a lot of this in the near future.

JustANumbersGuy
JustANumbersGuy
Oct 23, 2021 5:47 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Seems to be some groundwork being set for when everyone who has been jabbed starts to die.
“Yes we got the vaccine wrong, but we are only humans under pressure, boo hoo, we did our best, feel sorry for us, WE ARE THE VICTIM”

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2021 12:54 PM

I just read this really obnoxious Graud article on how these Tory bastards weren’t taking this obviously escalating viral massacre seriously enough. Some of these Right Wing shit heads even think covid is over! How dare they! Just as well us proles are forcing them into extending the lockdown forever!

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2021 1:01 PM
Reply to  George Mc

But then again, the Graud is at the cutting edge with this:

“Greta Thunberg accuses world leaders of being in denial over climate crisis”

Don’t you just love the way they dish this out as if no-one has heard it before!

The covid bull has reached a new phase: They are trying to bore us to death!

Hele
Hele
Oct 23, 2021 8:09 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Genius comment

aspnaz
aspnaz
Oct 22, 2021 3:02 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Why can’t I upvote you?

JustANumbersGuy
JustANumbersGuy
Oct 23, 2021 5:48 AM
Reply to  aspnaz

Why not leave an eloquent congratulatory response instead?

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 22, 2021 10:51 AM

It’s sickening how they circle the wagons to protect their own, while at the same time, and throughout history, they have sent millions of young men and women to be slaughtered in the killing fields of profit.
Anonymity?
What about the thousands of soldiers buried under the mud or blown to pieces in France, Germany, Africa, Iraq, Vietnam, Afghanistan etc etc?
Many who were never identified or couldn’t have a proper burial.
The ‘unknown’ soldiers.
Which anonymous politicians sent them to their deaths?
No apologies, no recriminations, no guilt.
They are PERVERSE.

Grafter
Grafter
Oct 22, 2021 11:07 AM
Reply to  Johnny

👍

Gezzah Potts
Gezzah Potts
Oct 22, 2021 11:46 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Yep.. upvote for you👍

Jacques
Jacques
Oct 22, 2021 10:19 AM

“Bigger people than this pack of juvenile morons have tried to silence me and got nowhere”

Let me say a few words of encouragement to all dissenters or people who might feel demoralized.

I was born into and grew up in a Second World country where a totalitarian regime had long been established. It wasn’t as bad as sometimes portrayed, but there were things one couldn’t do. Free speech, travel, education, professional opportunities, and other aspects of life were limited and there was the Sword of Damocles dangling over the head of anybody who dared protest.

Most people were resigned to the status quo. Most wouldn’t think about opposing it, a sizeable number found it perfectly normal.

I never acquiesced to any of the horseshit, from early childhood, despite being a black sheep already as a kid, despite everybody trying to shut me up, force me to their mold. I ran away at the earliest opportunity, still basically a kid.

And lo and behold, their invincible, cherished empire imploded some years later.

The point is that this bullshit, as impeccably staged as it may appear, will not last. There will be a light at the end of the tunnel, silver lining. Well-meaning people should stick to their ideals, defend the truth, what’s right. There are compromises one has to make in life, the simple stuff that makes it possible for people get along, but not as far as such issues as freedom and justice.

kevin king
kevin king
Oct 22, 2021 11:08 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Exactly. In fact many of us have no option but to be honest and tell the truth. We were born that way.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 22, 2021 9:57 AM

Look, when will people face up to the fact that the Security Services are Legalised Murder plc?

When they first got rumbled, they formed global alliances with sister organisations, particularly in the Five Eyes, and agreed to snoop on each other’s populations, murder each other’s victims and generally make out that they were peace-loving organisations solely dedicated to protecting the domestic public.

It’s still taboo to call MI6 a ‘ international murdering service for hire’, but that is what it is and always has been. Just as MI5 of course is never a ‘domestic murdering service for hire’.

MI6 will have learned from the Mossad the nuts and bolts of false flags in the modern era. If they want to increase authoritarian dictatorship, anywhere in the world, they will do it They WILL organise hits, they will arrange patsies and they have infiltrated the Civil Service, the HOW and the MSM to a sufficient degree to control the narrative.

Mark Sedwill has NEVER had anything but the interests of the UK population foremost in his mind, has he?

So right now, the centre of all discussions should be: ‘which security services recruited this Somali as a patsy and how did they convince him to do what he apparently did? Assuming of course that real contract killers didn’t just get on with the job and leave the dark coloured man to take the rap?’

The first port of call of every terrorist action on these shores should be to refute the hypothesis that the act was co-ordinated by some tentacle of the Five Eyes Security Services Octopus or Mossad.

huh
huh
Oct 22, 2021 10:58 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

You could be right, of course. But the guy could have offed him for his own reasons too. How many people in the uk today do you think would like to kill a politician? 10m? 20m? How many would like them all killed? It’s not beyond the realms of possibility that he was killed by someone who he hurt in some way now is it? One thing’s for sure: the majority are glad that one of the slime is dead.

New Nane
New Nane
Oct 23, 2021 1:37 AM
Reply to  huh

The assassination of someone doing the bidding of the banksters never happens in real life. They know how to protect their favourites. History on the other hand is littered with the corpses of leaders who went astray.

Dictator Dan would never be hit by the multitudes ha has wounded. He never ventures into the open. The only thing we can hope for is that he eventually meets the fate of the old Bolsheviks.

Grafter
Grafter
Oct 22, 2021 11:10 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

👍

kevin king
kevin king
Oct 22, 2021 11:11 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

All too true. MI6 plotted the demise of the People’s Princess. Interestingly it echoes the murder of this MP. In both cases it took an inordinate amount of time to get the victims to a hospital that was only a 15 minute drive away at most.

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 22, 2021 12:05 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

And yet people “celebrate” being let out of house arrest by going to watch free advertising for MI6 in Western cinema’s longest lasting franchise?…

Bond dies by the way. Sorry if that’s a spoiler. It’s the symbolic death of patriarchy of course. There will probably be some sort of revival in either woke or transhumanist form in due course. Hopefully it will fail as miserably as it did with Dr. Who (not that they care – it’s all about the agenda and making money has ceased to be the main concern, if it ever was).

shamen
shamen
Oct 22, 2021 10:58 PM
Reply to  Edwige

007 2 baklkl cane = facebook dies does he?? to re reincarnated as a lady

Carnyx
Carnyx
Oct 22, 2021 9:20 AM

Well you all knew that they’d jump all over this… you knew they’d point the finger at ‘us’ the great unwashed.

One of their own has been killed and that’s not cricket old bean… Things should never get this bad.

But the opportunists will do what they do best…

Personally I’d ban all ‘career politicians’ and lobbyists, remove the Revolving Door of public/private sector jobs and actually force them to re-engage with their electorate.

JohnEss
JohnEss
Oct 22, 2021 1:14 PM
Reply to  Carnyx

+1👍

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Oct 22, 2021 8:48 AM

OT: Keep your eyes open for this kind of sneaky move. As scepticism grows, our Carers will do everything in their power to skew the death-statistics, demonise the insufficiently-jabbed, and ramp up the fear and hatred.

If those who refuse a booster jab are then declared officially unvaccinated, that means that any ADE deaths will appear to be in the unvaccinated group.

https://twitter.com/Morvern_C_/status/1451154099194535937

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Oct 22, 2021 9:49 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

You gotta hand it to them…

les online
les online
Oct 22, 2021 8:45 AM

The USA government rejected numerous definition of “terrorist” because the term could be applied to its own actions. It eventually came up with a definition that couldnt be applied to its own terrorist actions. Likewise, any definition of “misinformation” the UK government settles on wont be applicable to the government or its propaganda etc partners > maybe finding such a definition is a reason there’s been delays bringing forward legislation ?

During my “Misspent Youth” i was a member of a communist party. We were legal and operated Out In The Open. That suited the State and its spies. They could keep an eye on us, probably even had someone in our midst reporting back on us. But we were never a threat; during my near-decade in the group there was never any interest in seriously thinking about, let alone plotting, A Revolution. We acted as a sort of political Safety Net – no talk of “lone-wolf” communists was heard. We’d scoop up disgruntled, rebellious youth, bore them to death doing Party Work. The State allowed us to exist, allowed us to be a magnet to the disaffected – easier to keep track of party members than unpredictable “loners”…*

The Wise State will realize that if no one can remain anonymous online – where it can keep track of society’s deplorables and angry people – it will be forcing many Underground, creating a nightmare trying to track where the Next Threat could come from… Maybe it will remember the role of Samizdat in corroding support for the Soviet governments…

An idea it could adopt is from China, from where all Great Ideas seems to emanate from these days. “Let 100 Flowers Bloom”, encourage criticisms against The System, Ideas on The Way Forward, then, when everyone has gotten used to their new ‘freedoms’, to stop the spread of “misinformation’, round up all the dissidents, truck them off to The Re-education Camps.

*we attracted a lot of “nutters” too. Where some got the idea we ate babies for breakfast i never did learn…

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 22, 2021 8:59 AM
Reply to  les online

The point about shifting definitions reminds me of another feature of Stalinism – the ‘kulaks’. Most people vaguely know this meant “richer peasants” but how was that defined? It never was so it could mean virtually anyone (except party functionaries who were busy enriching themselves although most were never peasants).

These terms mean what they always mean, anyone the rulers doesn’t like for any reason at any time.

les online
les online
Oct 22, 2021 9:15 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Yeh ! like the changed definitions that are the basis for the current Pandemic – without which, no pandemic….
I recall the ‘minister for the environment’ (Australia) around 1985 telling greenies that their marriage of “sustainable” with “environment” excluded them from discussions with the government. It talked only to those interested in “sustainable development”, or “sustainable economy”. Not exactly a change in definition, but a point about “Who Decides ?” (asked Alice)…

Mark McDougall
Mark McDougall
Oct 22, 2021 8:06 AM
JustANumbersGuy
JustANumbersGuy
Oct 22, 2021 8:29 AM
Reply to  Mark McDougall

And another:

AW Kamau
AW Kamau
Oct 22, 2021 10:10 AM

Thanks you for both links, appreciated

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 22, 2021 9:04 AM
Reply to  Mark McDougall

His father was a former Somali government official, in fact an advisor to the Somali Prime Minister, and he grew up in a generally Christian environment – he sang in the local church choir – in Croydon, where coincidentally there have been other strange stabbing deaths, still not fully explained.”

Starting to detect a slight pong yet?…

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2021 7:58 AM

I see that jimbojames has managed to commandeer this thread by having his comment always at the top.

JustANumbersGuy
JustANumbersGuy
Oct 22, 2021 8:31 AM
Reply to  George Mc

He has found the “sticky thread” code

AW Kamau
AW Kamau
Oct 22, 2021 10:12 AM
Reply to  George Mc

he’s familiar with the fact [in his case] the fish rots from the head down and leaves the sensible posts to others here

Sam - Admin
Admin
Sam - Admin
Oct 22, 2021 11:27 AM
Reply to  George Mc

It’s gone now, thanks for the flag. A2

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 22, 2021 7:56 AM

From what I’ve seen, Operation Covid has been an astonishing success. The population has been “rewired” decisively. I noted below the hypocritical stance taken by the media towards the elderly. From the alleged covid deaths (“Oh my God!”) to the real vax fatalities (“Oh what the hell!”). Now I am certain that if I were to put this point to a covidian, he wouldn’t even react with rage. He’d stare at me uncomprehendingly and then calmly tell me (as if talking to a child) that millions of old dears were dying of covid whilst there may have been a few regrettable vax casualties.

The media doesn’t work with rational arguments but with installing impressions. Sure, they’ll “back up” their claims with gish galloping charts and blandly asserted statistics which can be manipulated any way you want. But the main thing is conveying a basic feeling.

And the world has now been immersed in a kind of Lovecraftian or J G Ballardian dread. And that’s what works.

And so covid has resulted in an Auschwitzian UK. No-one’s actually seen it but that’s the impression everyone gets. And a covidian friend of mine came down with covid and, I’ve no doubt, “was at death’s door” (even though he managed to pop on a bus to get further tested).

All you have to do is to pump out the horror story and let the public do the rest.

Grafter
Grafter
Oct 22, 2021 11:15 AM
Reply to  George Mc

👍

Cori
Cori
Oct 22, 2021 6:41 AM

Another aspect to consider:
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=90410

ImpObs
ImpObs
Oct 22, 2021 8:06 AM
Reply to  Cori
plasos
plasos
Oct 22, 2021 6:13 AM

Telegram is not a safe heaven beggining with Durov, literally a WEF member! And since last year they are arbitrarily banning channels for “advocating violence” some were actually “extremist” channels but come on they pose 0 threat compared to what the state and the PTB does. Another detail to make this even better! While all that was going on, nothing happened to some BLM channels that were actually and obviously “advocating violence” also in the very beggining of the ***demic (god I hate this word) they just did this https://telegram.org/blog/coronavirus

New Verification Tools
To help users distinguish trustworthy sources from fake news, we’re launching a streamlined verification process today.
If you have verified accounts on other social media services, simply contact our new @VerifyBot to get a verification badge for your channel, group or bot.

Notifications for Users
Information is the most powerful weapon in the fight for global health – at least until we get a vaccine. To do our part, we’ve been sending notifications to all users in countries that have official channels with updates about the virus, offering them to join.
We invite all health officials to collaborate on keeping people informed. If you work for your country’s Ministry of Health and would like to promote its channel, please verify it first using @VerifyBot, then contact us at [email protected].

This above is enough for you realize that telegram is not even close to be “safe and trustworth” right?

Well there is other problems in telegram too
The coding is terrible and buggy it’s as some say a spaghetti code. Telegram has a feature creep problem as well there’s a lot of fancy things that are even cool but completely unnecessary and lead to bugs.

And last telegram is full of …lame people with shitty opinions, scammers though easy to know, but they are very annoying and sometimes funny hehe. You can get how the people behind telegram are by looking at Durov official channel chat, just take a look at the mods there, they all are very suspicious and pathetic.

Sorry for the long text but these are important summarized info that you should consider before joining Telegram or if you are already in Telegram.

I’m not telling you to join or not, It is all up to you.

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Oct 22, 2021 5:27 AM

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ThinkTwice
ThinkTwice
Oct 22, 2021 4:10 AM

“News” of today:

“Booster jabs could be brought forward as UK daily cases hit 52,000”

“Nachrichten in der Coronakrise- Booster hat hohe Wirksamkeit – taz.de”

“Wait before Covid booster jabs ‘could be cut to five months’”

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Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Oct 22, 2021 4:03 AM

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cf. jas Oct 21, 2021 6:17 PM

New Nane
New Nane
Oct 23, 2021 1:53 AM

+10.5

(Why stick to integers)

White Bunny
White Bunny
Oct 22, 2021 3:52 AM

maybe 11.11.21 is what they say https://t.me/McafeeAfterlife

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Oct 22, 2021 3:36 AM

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LOL

cf. Arby, Oct. 22, 2021 1:33 AM

Reset the Diaboligarchy
Reset the Diaboligarchy
Oct 22, 2021 7:55 AM

God is indeed Satan, but Jehovah God is the very Archfiend himself.

My God is the one authentic God,
But the true Holy Name must not be uttered here among unbelievers.

Begone, devils!

eman
eman
Oct 22, 2021 8:07 AM

Satan and God are ancient polarized icons that result from the application of divide and conquer strategies. Whole books have been written to keep the great divide sustainable.

The persons who are Satanites and the persons who are Godites each produce different answers to explain every happening, event, or circumstance.

Religion subdivided the Godite pole into real bureaucracies and polarized their imaginary differences.

Languages sort, isolate and maintain access to information mainly according to regions.
The nation state system sorts and isolates those it governs into named prison cells, called nations.

The Oligarach and their leg breaker monopoly endowed corporations each have a different reason for wanting to remove online anonymity, but collectively they have given marching order to their controlled politicians. The politicians are obligated to do as they have been told; mainly, make digital anonymity illegal by the end of 2024. The Oligarch need to control your thinking in order to extract your wealth. IOT make wealth extraction efficient, the oligarch need absolute control over the information you are allowed to see and information you must memorize, which of course, will be specialized just for you, according to the class of person they want want you to be.

The pharmaceutical industry wants every person to be its guinea pig so it can study the effects of its biological and psychological experiments on mankind, they want to profit from the life span and the qualify of life allowed to each person individually with their wealth sucking pharmaceuticals. The marketers of stocks and bonds want to extract your responsive thoughts to their propaganda, so you will buy and sell their next wealth sucking scam to you. The producers of food and beverage are genetically modifying your food, but they need to know its impact on your health, so pay us, then eat what you bought, get on line, so we can watch your slow death. The providers of the education contents want to know how stupid you are so they can provide more propaganda before they exit you with a degree to job that forces you to work for them.

But none of this would be possible if everyone would abandon their access node (computer which gives its users access to the digital platform) to the Internet. Return to analog.. move off the internet, remove digital anything from your household, and enjoy the information controlled thought controlled environment the digital platform enables . Abandon your humumoid status, become, once again, a real human.

Humanity must come to understand the mind prison is the digital platform and the armed prison guard is digital technology supported by rule of law.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 22, 2021 2:31 PM
Reply to  eman

And every beautiful plant that grows out in the country is part of a diabolic plot to make us think that Nature exists at all…

Thank you. Next, please!

C’mon, folks. Lighten up, and live!
Some things can be over-analyzed.

Arby
Arby
Oct 23, 2021 7:04 AM

God is not Gog.

Croach
Croach
Oct 22, 2021 2:24 AM

The most unpleasant stuff on the internet comes from people working for governments and corporations.
The most unpleasant places on the internet are where governments and corporations train and recruit those people.
Presumably Kiwi Farms will be given some kind of special dispensation for ‘reasons of global security’.

les online
les online
Oct 22, 2021 2:10 AM

Trotsky was airbrushed out of all official USSR photos = he never existed.
The upticks and downticks have gone missing from all previous Offguardian posts – as if they never existed… It’s said Yesterday is a Myth ! (so is Tomorrow)…
I prefer Holes in my Memories than your Memory Holes…

New Name
New Name
Oct 22, 2021 5:01 AM
Reply to  les online

Blessed is the Ministry of Truth.