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AUDIO: The CIA’s War on Democracy

Edward Curtin in conversation with RFK jr

The above audio is a shortened version of a video interview from a few weeks ago between author (and regular OffG contributor) Edward Curtin and lawyer/political activist Robert Kennedy jr.

Their conversation touches on many aspects of the CIA’s devious role in so many aspects of history, including its relentless lying attacks on the Kennedy family that go back decades, its assassinations of Kennedys, and its egregious character assassination of RFK Jr himself.

Kennedy’s recent book, The Real Anthony Fauci, has been ignored by the mainstream media because they speak for the CIA, as they have been doing for decades, and Kennedy is a great threat to their stranglehold on the truth. (You can read Ed’s review here.)

They discuss many issues: Operation Mockingbird, Anthony Fauci, Covid, Noam Chomsky and his acolytes, JFK, the CIA’s long deep involvement in germ warfare, the militarizing of medicine, and its pushing of drugs, etc.

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Robert Ford
Robert Ford
Jan 14, 2022 1:19 PM

In these comments, “Lost in a dark wood” keeps pushing the perspective of the propaganda machine. He seems unaware that the two people participating in this podcast vehemently oppose the perspective of the propaganda machine. One of them, RFK Jr., has been relentlessly targeted by the propaganda machine.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jan 14, 2022 3:50 PM
Reply to  Robert Ford

One of them, RFK Jr., has been relentlessly targeted by the propaganda machine.

I assume from your last statement that the “propaganda machine” you’re referring to is the one which is sometimes known as “Clowns In America”. If that’s the case, you should reread the posts; since they include elements of parody and ironic juxtaposition.

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Jan 14, 2022 2:54 AM

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Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jan 11, 2022 1:34 PM

Insurrection At The Capitol – One Year On

In case you missed it, Byline Times are running a special series to commemorate the day that democracy as we know it was nearly lost.
https://bylinetimes.com/columns/democracyindanger

https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/06/insurrection-at-the-capitol-one-year-on-the-dark-money-funding-trumps-coup
The Dark Money Funding Trump’s Coup
Sian Norris and Heidi Siegmund Cuda
6 January 2022
On 6 January 2021, far-right groups and Donald Trump supporters invaded the US Capitol in an attempted insurrection. One year on, Sian Norris and Heidi Siegmund Cuda delve into what happened that day in a series of articles exposing how far-right aims expressed by the ‘mob’ have become the policy of the Republican elite
It began with a “big lie”. . .

Jan 7: The Militarisation of Far-Right Resistance
Jan 10: How the Far-Right Won on Abortion
Jan 11: How QAnon Went Mainstream

More to follow?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jan 12, 2022 10:37 AM

Millions of Pro-Trump Americans Support Political Violence But Not Who You Might Think CJ Werleman 12 January 2022 CJ Werleman unpicks the insights from a new report into who took part in the attempted insurrection at the US Capitol on 6 January 2021 and what this tells us about the growing pro-Trump far-right movement in America https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/12/millions-of-pro-trump-americans-support-political-violence-but-not-who-you-might-think Contrary to cartoonish illustrations of pro-Trump supporters or the comically named ‘Make America Great Again’ movement, the economic profile of the 716 people arrested or charged over the 6 January attack is representative of mainstream America – with more than half of them employed in white collar occupations, including CEOs, architects, lawyers, doctors, accountants and business owners. “Only 7% were unemployed at the time, almost the national average, compared with the usual 25% or more of violent right-wing perpetrators arrested by the FBI and other US law enforcement from 2015 to mid-2020,” note… Read more »

SO-SO
SO-SO
Jan 12, 2022 12:37 PM

The whole thing was a Joke and ted cruz is swamp as they get.
Why do you think Jan 6 happened.?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jan 12, 2022 2:26 PM
Reply to  SO-SO

Why do you think Jan 6 happened.? Trump says that “the insurrection” was November 3rd, but it really extended to include January 6 and beyond. Since the insurrection involved foreign powers, the participants are “unlawful enemy combatants” and can be tried using military law (i.e. sent to Gitmo). Also, it allowed Trump to trigger Continuity of Government (a.k.a. “Devolution”). Given that the criminal justice system is controlled by the deep state, this switch to military law was always a core element of “the plan”. — https://intelnews.org/2020/03/18/01-2740 US Military Given “Continuity of Government” Standby Orders for COVID-19 Pandemic March 18, 2020 For the first time in the modern history of the United States, the Department of Defense has been given standby orders to ensure the “continuity of government”, in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. These extraordinary measures, which include evacuating White House officials to remote quarantined locations, and devolving the nation’s… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jan 12, 2022 5:32 PM

This is a similar line of questioning to that of Ted Cruz; and it draws a similar response.

January 11, 2022: Senator Cotton Q&A During Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing
Jan 11, 2022
Senator Tom Cotton
Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) questioned Assistant Attorney General Matthew Olson during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.

Edwige
Edwige
Jan 10, 2022 1:44 PM

I watched the early ’80s’ film ‘Return Engagement’ recently about Timothy Leary and G’ Gordon Liddy’s debating tour. Both men stress that they were genuine friends and it wasn’t just about making money (although they did). I’d thought Liddy must be real because he always had such a mad look in his eye – but a little digging reveals him doing the ‘hidden hand’ sign in photos. The whole thing looks like an orchestrated dialectic between Liddy (embodying the right-hand path) and Leary (embodying the left-hand path). The usual numerological markers are there – Liddy raided Leary with 22 agents and supposedly died on 3/30. Both 22 and 33 are masonic master numbers. Their friendship now makes a whole lot more sense. The film was directed by Alan Rudolph. Rudolph is portrayed in mainstream criticism as a kind of poor man’s Robert Altman, a maker of warm, quirky, vaguely liberal… Read more »

NickM
NickM
Jan 10, 2022 10:37 AM

A quietly humorous Russian glance at the CIA/MI6 War on Democracy:

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Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Jan 11, 2022 9:08 AM
Reply to  NickM

The people of Kazakhstan are rebelling against dictatorship. I hope the people of the West soon take a leaf out of their book.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Jan 10, 2022 12:05 AM

…Recently watched bits and pieces of the recent(-ish)Tom Cruise vehicle ‘American Made‘ whilst it happened to be on the telly (not mine) during Christmas dinner…

…- Didn’t tell me anything I didn’t already know about Barry Seal and the Mena, Arkansas connection under Bill Clinton’s watch, Condor, the Sandinistas/Iran Contra, Pablo Escobar and why ‘CIA’ *Really* stands for ‘Cocaine Importers of America’, as well as *Much Else* besides , but I thought it interesting that ‘Teh Company’ directed that it be made at all, and *Particularly* at around that time (2017)…

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jan 9, 2022 5:48 PM

Beware false-flag, entrapment operations !

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10382723/Exposed-Leader-ex-Army-group-thats-plotting-mayhem.html
Exposed: Leader of ex-Army group that’s plotting mayhem as 200 members of a sinister anti-vax group meet in a Staffordshire park to practise smashing through police lines
Undercover reporter joined supporters of anti-vax group Alpha Men Assemble
Some 200 members met in a Staffordshire park to practise smashing police lines
The group is led by ex-Royal Fusilier Danny Glass who belongs to secret band of ex-Army veterans
UPDATED: 08:22, 9 January 2022

AMA has 7,000 followers on the encrypted Telegram social media app. But Glass, from Angmering, West Sussex, is also linked to Veterans With Purpose, whose founder has spoken of ‘arresting’ MPs and other public figures and locking them in cages

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jan 9, 2022 9:52 PM

…whose founder has spoken of ‘arresting’ MPs and other public figures and locking them in cages

Some morally interesting ideas. As well as a natural reaction to a draconian police state. Arresting police officers for failing to uphold their common-law oath was also mentioned

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Jan 9, 2022 11:35 PM

“Alpha Men Assemble”

…- Sounds like the title of a *Really Bad* parody of a Marvel superhero flick (But I repeat myself)…

…’National Action’ all turned out to be ‘Ex-Army’ as well, no?… 😉

Tony Maroni
Tony Maroni
Jan 9, 2022 11:50 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

+1

This is nothing more than a recruitment drive for useful idiots in my eyes.

sean harvey
sean harvey
Jan 9, 2022 5:48 PM

I’ve always been an admirer of Chomsky and have read many of his books, but his refusal to consider the Kennedy assassination(s) and 911 the result of conspiracies have forced me to place an asterisk next to his name. The same for his dismissal of the notion that JFK was going to ramp down the Vietnam war. And his characterization of Jan 6 as an ‘insurrection’ and his embrace of Covid orthodoxy have led me to conclude that either he’s been somehow compromised or that his once-great mind is failing.

ZigZagWanderer
ZigZagWanderer
Jan 9, 2022 9:00 PM
Reply to  sean harvey

There’s a reason Noams’ MIT safe perch has remained “safe” for so long … .

Ort
Ort
Jan 9, 2022 10:28 PM
Reply to  ZigZagWanderer

During the Dubya Bush years I “hung out” at a (US) progressive-liberal site that’s still operational. I won’t name it, but it’s a completely fraudulent and compromised site that is either an actual or virtual front promoting Democratic Party “progressive” politics/politicians. Naturally, most of the regulars revered figures like Chomsky and “Democracy Now”‘s ostensible “alternative” journalist Amy Goodman. I’d come to sour on Chomsky after his execrable 9/11 response, and also his sanctimonious advocacy of lesser-evil “strategic voting”, as he euphemistically called voting for Democratic Party candidates. I’d only begun to see through Goodman. Anyway, the consensus of the commenters there was that Chomsky and Goodman were noble, courageous dissenters risking their lives to Speak Truth to Power. Typically, when anyone dared to express criticism or doubt of their statements or actions, it would provoke outraged, hostile responses from regulars who expressed unconditional regard for them. One melodramatic theme of… Read more »

Thiekbalj
Thiekbalj
Jan 10, 2022 12:47 AM
Reply to  Ort

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5be5a25929711449ca9950d4/t/5df7ff1ef8dcf22406cca2ec/1576533792709/Noam+Chomsky+and+the+Compatible+Left.pdf

Invisible Man I believe posted this a while ago. Gives the whole story of Gnome

If link doesn’t work search: Lorenz Chomsky and the Compatible Left

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 10, 2022 4:21 PM
Reply to  Ort

I will name it – Common Dreams.

Ort
Ort
Jan 10, 2022 8:13 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Bingo!

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 11, 2022 3:15 AM
Reply to  Ort

Indeed. Compare with Michael Parenti – the real thing – who could not get a tenured position (his PhD is from Yale) anywhere. Parenti excoriated Chomsky over his “coincidence theories.”

timfrom
timfrom
Jan 10, 2022 1:13 AM
Reply to  sean harvey

When he called recently for the unvaccinated to be shunned by society, I concluded that he’s ready for the Home for the Bewildered!

Tim Drayton
Tim Drayton
Jan 11, 2022 9:14 AM
Reply to  sean harvey

Probably the latter. He is in his 90’s after all.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jan 9, 2022 5:04 PM

Anyone that thinks it is difficult to understand why Noam Chomsky is pushing the death jab, is ignoring the elephant in the room.

Let’s talk about the King David Hotel bombing, Operation Suzanna, the USS Liberty incident, Johnathan Pollard and Robert Maxwell.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jan 9, 2022 6:24 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

“Hopefully, by this time those here are finished with that fraud or any fairy tale illusions concerning/surrounding him.”
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“We will not be culled, labratted, mutated, Jim Crowed, owned or enslaved. The Nuremberg Codes, Human Rights and Civil Liberties shall be respected. My body, my choice.”

https://www.marxists.org/archive/debs/works/1918/court.htm

Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen
Jan 10, 2022 12:18 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

I agree with this except noone is a science experiment, not just children.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jan 10, 2022 1:16 AM

“It means EVERYBODY, irregardless of age. Thank You”.
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IJScambling
IJScambling
Jan 9, 2022 5:03 PM

The discussion emphasizes the emergence and growth of the plutocracy following World War II, which is under-rated today as we continue to talk of “danger to our democracy” as though a viable democracy still is possible versus manipulation and propaganda. Note the emphasis on the Congo. Apparently, as indication of how much further we need to dig, in a recent discussion with Joe Rogan, Oliver Stone still believes the domino theory was a reality versus another propaganda mirage, and Rogan appeared to accept this view as a legitimate explanation for Vietnam versus control of its independence and resources.

Edwige
Edwige
Jan 9, 2022 4:07 PM

Strongest evidence yet that there is a significant increase in all-cause mortality that can only be explained by the vaccine (although not the only cause):

https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/insurance-death-rates-working-age-people-up-40-percent

It’s both the magnitude of the increase that’s telling and the age profile of those impacted which means it can’t be put down to covid itself which is no doubt what the corporate-state media will try to do when they stop ignoring it (which is in itself extremely telling that so far that’s been what they’ve done). The middle-aged are not large-scale victims of covid even in the official narrative but they are the main group hit by workplace vaccine mandates.

This is probably the biggest stoiry of the last year and a half. It’s revealing it comes from an insurance company report to shareholders and not from a state healthcare body.

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
Jan 9, 2022 4:56 PM
Reply to  Edwige

And among the Not Dead, health conditions (minor or otherwise) seem to get amplified and become more serious after the vaccines.

ename
ename
Jan 9, 2022 3:51 PM

video not reachable from here.. They discuss many issues: Operation Mockingbird, Anthony Fauci, Covid, Noam Chomsky and his acolytes, JFK, the CIA’s long deep involvement in germ warfare, the militarizing of medicine, and its pushing of drugs, etc. Who has missed the point. ? .. The Digital platform has disabled traditional government and disenfranchised many humans; but it has empowered corporate control beyond everyone’s wildest dreams. Grapheme embedded vaccination and 5 g implementation have enabled the digital platform to be used by these families and their corporate empires to regulate lifestyle and to monitor and suppress unwanted human expression. The digital platform Its the perfect delivery system for global tyranny. Its nearly invisible, its able able to instantaneous discover and repair all systemic leaks This work in progress is happening without the knowledge or consent of the 8 billion people who live on Planet Earth. The switch to the digital… Read more »

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jan 9, 2022 11:25 PM
Reply to  ename

Good points. That’s certainly something that needs to be thrashed out in more depth

There are ‘laws’ and there are ‘Laws’.

Rubber-stamped unscrutinized ‘laws’ clearly do not hold the same authority as time-honoured ‘Laws’ that have a moral basis, and have stood the test of centuries

The Pharisees too had their additional ‘laws’, but they were of little worth

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 9, 2022 3:43 PM

Well there’s a surprise:

https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1479909872024051719

Craig Murray –

Had my covid booster today along with flu jab.

I am firmly against both coercion and discrimination, but I do urge everyone to get vaccinated.

DM:
DM:
Jan 9, 2022 5:11 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Another one bites the dust.

Ort
Ort
Jan 9, 2022 10:18 PM
Reply to  DM:

Yes and no. I sympathize with Murray as a victim of the overclass’s vicious abuse, but he’s always been prone to at least nuzzle the dust.

That is, he’s a contrarian critic on certain issues, but he has a conventional, moderate core.

He may not retain his unwarranted, if not blind, faith in The Rule of Law as much as formerly. But it doesn’t surprise me that he evidently thinks his obsequious advice is a simple matter of “following the science”.

Penelope
Penelope
Jan 9, 2022 3:36 PM

You need hope, good news & the means to fight back? Here it is:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/01/09/how-to-win-the-war-against-tyranny.aspx

Don’t miss it; it’ll be taken down in a day. Off-G, consider picking this up.

Tanis
Tanis
Jan 10, 2022 1:01 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Thanks

Banjo234
Banjo234
Jan 9, 2022 3:30 PM

You’re too kind about Chomsky. He’s a Zionist Jew who resented JFK’s efforts against Israeli influence over America and his condemnation of Secret Societies. His attitude to the assassination of JFK and RFK and his indifference to the slaughter of 3000 New Yorkers has only one explanation. He a supremacist Jew whose expression of empathy for “fellow humans” is a fake front concealing his loyalty to the Rabbinical forces that Jesus Christ called out as being, “Of Satan”. Maybe Klein is another example of the ilk when the chips are down. This tribe now completely dominate America. They will accomplish their mission to destroy it as parasites often destroy their host but they will more than go down with the ship. They are highly likely to suffer the usual treatment that has occurred approximately 900 times, one way or another, throughout European history. Ordinary, innocent Jews get destroyed along with… Read more »

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 9, 2022 3:13 PM

I think of the CIA as an old-fashioned public toilet.
Smelly, but part of the very fabric of society in its day…

Its day is done, but somebody lost the key to the sewer underneath, so the vermin exterminators can’t get in.
In any case, they say taking a single breath in there would end you.

Ort
Ort
Jan 9, 2022 10:11 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Nowadays we have masks for that!  😉 

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 10, 2022 4:02 AM
Reply to  Ort

Oh, yes… 🙂

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 11, 2022 1:36 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Hey, I offended a CIA agent here…

Art Costa
Art Costa
Jan 9, 2022 2:46 PM

Chomsky is a fraud and a total waste of time, as is Klein. My uncle Bruno is a curmudgeon. Chomsky is not.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 10, 2022 7:21 PM
Reply to  Art Costa

RE: curmudgeon
Right, that’s being generous to NC. Chomsky is an overbearing, enormously arrogant prick who’s ego knows no bounds.

Sebastian
Sebastian
Jan 9, 2022 2:04 PM

Presently, two of my favourite living human beings on this planet.

The truth is out there, never give up hope.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jan 9, 2022 1:24 PM

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“Quite a trick. That means at least 2-3 cases per person. The Scamdemic ‘BIG LIE’ continues.”

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 9, 2022 2:56 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

You have to be very “special” to get to be a Supreme Court Justice these days.
And not in a good way….

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 10, 2022 5:02 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

I listened to part of the oral arguments regarding Biden’s mandates. It was like all the Supreme Court Justices got all their information about Covid and the “vaccines” from CNN. The attorney presenting the case against the mandates never questioned the false ideas that the Pandemic TM an “unprecedented event” warranting extreme measures by government, that Covid was dangerous disease for everyone, that the “vaccines” provide immunity and stop transmission. Never mentioned were the actual IFR, natural immunity or acquired immunity.
I couldn’t listen to any more. Based on this, I predict that the SCOTUS will support Biden’s mandates. No big surprise I suppose. That the Court is heavily conservative, should chasten the right wingers who think the GOP will save them.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 10, 2022 7:54 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

RE: 750 million new cases
I remember back in the summer of 2020, we found out (here on Off-G and elsewhere) that “cases” are counted cumulatively.

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
Jan 9, 2022 1:02 PM

Is there a way to download the audio file?

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 9, 2022 3:05 PM
Reply to  GR-Watch

I have a couple of apps in my computer that record any sound the system is playing.

If you have a Mac, I think QuickTime can do it.
Surely PCs also have something like that…?

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jan 9, 2022 4:44 PM
Reply to  GR-Watch

Try right-clicking this link, and choosing ‘save as…’ or equivalent. It’s an mp3 file around 64mb

Blind Gill
Blind Gill
Jan 9, 2022 7:00 PM
Reply to  GR-Watch

Look for a YouTube converter and you can choose whether you want just MP3 audio.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jan 9, 2022 12:28 PM

“Speaking frankly, the reason Francis Fox Piven and the rest of the jackbooted crocodile teared corporate fascist eugenicist fabian brown shirt charlatan fraudster phony baloneys down at the CUNY Grad Center chose this moron is because she comes off looking like a crazed nincompoop.”
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“She has all the appeal of the backside of a horse.
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“Perhaps it is time to put the tail back over the face.”

Annie
Annie
Jan 9, 2022 12:42 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

👍

Howard
Howard
Jan 9, 2022 3:06 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

In other words, she’s being groomed for the Presidency.

Ort
Ort
Jan 9, 2022 10:09 PM
Reply to  Howard

Or the Vice-Presidency. It seems that current good-government thinking is that a well-groomed Veep is just a short fall up to the Oval Office Throne.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Jan 9, 2022 11:52 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

…- *Those Eyes*!!!:…

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S Cooper
S Cooper
Jan 14, 2022 3:11 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

“Do it her way, or the rabbit gets it.”
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Edwige
Edwige
Jan 9, 2022 12:21 PM

Carl Bernstein’s 1977 Rolling Stone article on Mockingbird:
https://archive.org/stream/nsia-BernsteinRollingStoneArticlesCIA/nsia-BernsteinRollingStoneArticlesCIA/Bernstein%20CIA%2001_djvu.txt

Bernstein didn’t know its name and excused the Washington Post which could be blinkered loyalty but is more probably a limited hangout.

He happened to be 33 at the time….

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 9, 2022 10:31 AM

A fascinating and enlightening discussion.
You’ve gotta wonder how much the actors, the so called radicals on the Left, have been ‘debriefed’, warned off, threatened, or simply told to pull their heads in.
Makes for a comfortable Life of adulation and respect.
Makes for a Life of slimy hypocrisy.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 10, 2022 6:47 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Well, you could use Chomsky own analysis against him: In an interview with a MSM reporter, NC said something like “if you hadn’t internalized all the mainstream biases, you wouldn’t be here interviewing me.”

So, NC working at MIT, the most generously funded academic institution by the Pentagon, knew what those boundaries were. Same with Professor Naomi Klein, whose excellent book The Shock Doctrine, was followed up by This Changes Everything which might as well have been funded by the WEF it so closely follows the corporate climate change narrative.

Matt
Matt
Jan 12, 2022 5:46 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Naomi K. IS funded by the WEF…

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 12, 2022 6:28 PM
Reply to  Matt

Well, there you go!