AUDIO: The CIA’s War on Democracy
Edward Curtin in conversation with RFK jr
The above audio is a shortened version of a video interview from a few weeks ago between author (and regular OffG contributor) Edward Curtin and lawyer/political activist Robert Kennedy jr.
Their conversation touches on many aspects of the CIA’s devious role in so many aspects of history, including its relentless lying attacks on the Kennedy family that go back decades, its assassinations of Kennedys, and its egregious character assassination of RFK Jr himself.
Kennedy’s recent book, The Real Anthony Fauci, has been ignored by the mainstream media because they speak for the CIA, as they have been doing for decades, and Kennedy is a great threat to their stranglehold on the truth. (You can read Ed’s review here.)
They discuss many issues: Operation Mockingbird, Anthony Fauci, Covid, Noam Chomsky and his acolytes, JFK, the CIA’s long deep involvement in germ warfare, the militarizing of medicine, and its pushing of drugs, etc.
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In these comments, “Lost in a dark wood” keeps pushing the perspective of the propaganda machine. He seems unaware that the two people participating in this podcast vehemently oppose the perspective of the propaganda machine. One of them, RFK Jr., has been relentlessly targeted by the propaganda machine.
I assume from your last statement that the “propaganda machine” you’re referring to is the one which is sometimes known as “Clowns In America”. If that’s the case, you should reread the posts; since they include elements of parody and ironic juxtaposition.
It used to take me a long time to find my balance, but recently I discovered that a website sincerely guides this layout when you can find joy after a stressful day here.
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Insurrection At The Capitol – One Year On
In case you missed it, Byline Times are running a special series to commemorate the day that democracy as we know it was nearly lost.
https://bylinetimes.com/columns/democracyindanger
https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/06/insurrection-at-the-capitol-one-year-on-the-dark-money-funding-trumps-coup
The Dark Money Funding Trump’s Coup
Sian Norris and Heidi Siegmund Cuda
6 January 2022
On 6 January 2021, far-right groups and Donald Trump supporters invaded the US Capitol in an attempted insurrection. One year on, Sian Norris and Heidi Siegmund Cuda delve into what happened that day in a series of articles exposing how far-right aims expressed by the ‘mob’ have become the policy of the Republican elite
It began with a “big lie”. . .
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Jan 7: The Militarisation of Far-Right Resistance
Jan 10: How the Far-Right Won on Abortion
Jan 11: How QAnon Went Mainstream
More to follow?
Millions of Pro-Trump Americans Support Political Violence
But Not Who You Might Think
CJ Werleman
12 January 2022
CJ Werleman unpicks the insights from a new report into who took part in the attempted insurrection at the US Capitol on 6 January 2021 and what this tells us about the growing pro-Trump far-right movement in America
https://bylinetimes.com/2022/01/12/millions-of-pro-trump-americans-support-political-violence-but-not-who-you-might-think
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The problem with this type of analysis is that the focus is shifting to those who were NOT arrested or charged; to THEIR support for political violence; and perhaps more importantly, to their INSTITUTIONAL support networks. For instance, a couple of days after getting his knuckles rapped by Tucker Carlson for pushing the “terrorism” narrative, Ted Cruz grilled an FBI associate director.
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Senator Ted Cruz pressures the FBI on their involvement in the events of January 6th
Jan 11, 2022
The whole thing was a Joke and ted cruz is swamp as they get.
Why do you think Jan 6 happened.?
Trump says that “the insurrection” was November 3rd, but it really extended to include January 6 and beyond. Since the insurrection involved foreign powers, the participants are “unlawful enemy combatants” and can be tried using military law (i.e. sent to Gitmo). Also, it allowed Trump to trigger Continuity of Government (a.k.a. “Devolution”). Given that the criminal justice system is controlled by the deep state, this switch to military law was always a core element of “the plan”.
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https://intelnews.org/2020/03/18/01-2740
US Military Given “Continuity of Government” Standby Orders for COVID-19 Pandemic
March 18, 2020
For the first time in the modern history of the United States, the Department of Defense has been given standby orders to ensure the “continuity of government”, in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. These extraordinary measures, which include evacuating White House officials to remote quarantined locations, and devolving the nation’s leadership to “second-tier officials”, were originally meant for the aftermath of a nuclear war.
However, according to Newsweek, “Above-Top Secret” contingency plans are now in place, in case the nation’s Constitutional power successors are incapacitated by the pandemic. Standby orders have been issued for a series of plans under the US Northern Command (NORTHCOM), . . . as a homeland defense military authority.
These operations are codenamed OCTAGON, FREEJACK and ZODIAC, said Newsweek, and include CONPLAN 3400 (homeland defense if the US itself is the battlefield), CONPLAN 3500 (defending civil authorities in an emergency), and CONPLAN 3600 (defending the National Capital Region from an attack). Newsweek added that the Defense Secretary, Mark T. Esper, has authorized NORTHCOM to “prepare to deploy” in support of these “potential extraordinary missions”. These include “the possibility of some form of martial law”, where military commanders would be given executive powers across the US until a new civilian leadership would emerge.
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Graham Questions SCOTUS Nominee Kavanaugh
Sep 5, 2018
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Senator Lindsey Graham Questions Brett Kavanaugh Military Law vs Criminal Law during war on terror (Starts at 24:00)
This is a similar line of questioning to that of Ted Cruz; and it draws a similar response.
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January 11, 2022: Senator Cotton Q&A During Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing
Jan 11, 2022
Senator Tom Cotton
Senator Tom Cotton (R-Arkansas) questioned Assistant Attorney General Matthew Olson during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.
I watched the early ’80s’ film ‘Return Engagement’ recently about Timothy Leary and G’ Gordon Liddy’s debating tour. Both men stress that they were genuine friends and it wasn’t just about making money (although they did). I’d thought Liddy must be real because he always had such a mad look in his eye – but a little digging reveals him doing the ‘hidden hand’ sign in photos. The whole thing looks like an orchestrated dialectic between Liddy (embodying the right-hand path) and Leary (embodying the left-hand path).
The usual numerological markers are there – Liddy raided Leary with 22 agents and supposedly died on 3/30. Both 22 and 33 are masonic master numbers. Their friendship now makes a whole lot more sense.
The film was directed by Alan Rudolph. Rudolph is portrayed in mainstream criticism as a kind of poor man’s Robert Altman, a maker of warm, quirky, vaguely liberal films. However dig ito the corners of his filmography and one finds films like ‘Nightmare Circus’ (very MK Ultra), ‘Endangered Species’ (alien cattle mutilations covering for underground government experiements) and ‘Investigating Sex’ (about a Kinsey-style project). Rudolph’s ‘Trouble in Mind’ has the biggest checkerboard floor I’ve seen in any film (and I’ve seen a few). This is of course a masonic duality symbol. The film stars Kris Kristoffersen (from a military family) and Lori Singer (cousin of Bryan Singer, accused paedophile).
Liddy and Leary advertised their tour on Playboy, abother secret societ/deep state operation established using controlled asset Marilym Monroe (initials MM are 33 turned sideways).
Watergate was poitical theatre with many of the participants lifetime actors (some on the margins probably thought it was real). The extent of Nixon’s knowledge remains debatable. To this day, Watergate will be cited as the No.1 example of investigative journalism and that the media are what they pretend to be.
A quietly humorous Russian glance at the CIA/MI6 War on Democracy:
The people of Kazakhstan are rebelling against dictatorship. I hope the people of the West soon take a leaf out of their book.
…Recently watched bits and pieces of the recent(-ish)Tom Cruise vehicle ‘American Made‘ whilst it happened to be on the telly (not mine) during Christmas dinner…
…- Didn’t tell me anything I didn’t already know about Barry Seal and the Mena, Arkansas connection under Bill Clinton’s watch, Condor, the Sandinistas/Iran Contra, Pablo Escobar and why ‘CIA’ *Really* stands for ‘Cocaine Importers of America’, as well as *Much Else* besides , but I thought it interesting that ‘Teh Company’ directed that it be made at all, and *Particularly* at around that time (2017)…
Beware false-flag, entrapment operations !
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10382723/Exposed-Leader-ex-Army-group-thats-plotting-mayhem.html
Exposed: Leader of ex-Army group that’s plotting mayhem as 200 members of a sinister anti-vax group meet in a Staffordshire park to practise smashing through police lines
Undercover reporter joined supporters of anti-vax group Alpha Men Assemble
Some 200 members met in a Staffordshire park to practise smashing police lines
The group is led by ex-Royal Fusilier Danny Glass who belongs to secret band of ex-Army veterans
UPDATED: 08:22, 9 January 2022
AMA has 7,000 followers on the encrypted Telegram social media app. But Glass, from Angmering, West Sussex, is also linked to Veterans With Purpose, whose founder has spoken of ‘arresting’ MPs and other public figures and locking them in cages
Some morally interesting ideas. As well as a natural reaction to a draconian police state. Arresting police officers for failing to uphold their common-law oath was also mentioned
…- Sounds like the title of a *Really Bad* parody of a Marvel superhero flick (But I repeat myself)…
…’National Action’ all turned out to be ‘Ex-Army’ as well, no?… 😉
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This is nothing more than a recruitment drive for useful idiots in my eyes.
I’ve always been an admirer of Chomsky and have read many of his books, but his refusal to consider the Kennedy assassination(s) and 911 the result of conspiracies have forced me to place an asterisk next to his name. The same for his dismissal of the notion that JFK was going to ramp down the Vietnam war. And his characterization of Jan 6 as an ‘insurrection’ and his embrace of Covid orthodoxy have led me to conclude that either he’s been somehow compromised or that his once-great mind is failing.
There’s a reason Noams’ MIT safe perch has remained “safe” for so long … .
During the Dubya Bush years I “hung out” at a (US) progressive-liberal site that’s still operational. I won’t name it, but it’s a completely fraudulent and compromised site that is either an actual or virtual front promoting Democratic Party “progressive” politics/politicians.
Naturally, most of the regulars revered figures like Chomsky and “Democracy Now”‘s ostensible “alternative” journalist Amy Goodman. I’d come to sour on Chomsky after his execrable 9/11 response, and also his sanctimonious advocacy of lesser-evil “strategic voting”, as he euphemistically called voting for Democratic Party candidates. I’d only begun to see through Goodman.
Anyway, the consensus of the commenters there was that Chomsky and Goodman were noble, courageous dissenters risking their lives to Speak Truth to Power. Typically, when anyone dared to express criticism or doubt of their statements or actions, it would provoke outraged, hostile responses from regulars who expressed unconditional regard for them.
One melodramatic theme of these angry rebuttals was that mere nobodies shouldn’t dare to criticize or question these iconic dissenters because they put their lives on the line every day. Their defenders expressed heartfelt, strident concern that at any moment, the Black Helicopters and/or Men in Black could swoop down and terminate these righteous Enemies of the State– and yet these heroes boldly pressed on.
It never escalated to a flame war, but I couldn’t resist pointing out that yes, it was true that both Chomsky and Goodman had gotten unfairly, even brutally harassed, arrested, etc. during their careers– Chomsky during protests, Goodman while reporting in the field. (BTW, I didn’t snarkily suggest that this might be like cops deliberately roughing up informants and moles during busts to preserve their “street cred”.)
I went on to point out that especially Chomsky openly lived in comfortable circumstances, both were prosperous and even outright wealthy, maintained respectable and secure careers, and were obviously tolerated (if not supported) by the Establishment. In short, these were decidedly not outlaw radicals running one step ahead of the Black Ops Terminators.
As you might imagine, this didn’t go over well at all with the Chomsky (and Goodman) devotees. The sentimental, even vaguely romantic, scenario that their heroes could be brutally cut down at any moment, and thus deserved uncritical adulation, was much more compelling and satisfying to them.
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5be5a25929711449ca9950d4/t/5df7ff1ef8dcf22406cca2ec/1576533792709/Noam+Chomsky+and+the+Compatible+Left.pdf
Invisible Man I believe posted this a while ago. Gives the whole story of Gnome
If link doesn’t work search: Lorenz Chomsky and the Compatible Left
I will name it – Common Dreams.
Bingo!
Indeed. Compare with Michael Parenti – the real thing – who could not get a tenured position (his PhD is from Yale) anywhere. Parenti excoriated Chomsky over his “coincidence theories.”
When he called recently for the unvaccinated to be shunned by society, I concluded that he’s ready for the Home for the Bewildered!
Probably the latter. He is in his 90’s after all.
Anyone that thinks it is difficult to understand why Noam Chomsky is pushing the death jab, is ignoring the elephant in the room.
Let’s talk about the King David Hotel bombing, Operation Suzanna, the USS Liberty incident, Johnathan Pollard and Robert Maxwell.
“Hopefully, by this time those here are finished with that fraud or any fairy tale illusions concerning/surrounding him.”
“We will not be culled, labratted, mutated, Jim Crowed, owned or enslaved. The Nuremberg Codes, Human Rights and Civil Liberties shall be respected. My body, my choice.”
https://www.marxists.org/archive/debs/works/1918/court.htm
I agree with this except noone is a science experiment, not just children.
“It means EVERYBODY, irregardless of age. Thank You”.
The discussion emphasizes the emergence and growth of the plutocracy following World War II, which is under-rated today as we continue to talk of “danger to our democracy” as though a viable democracy still is possible versus manipulation and propaganda. Note the emphasis on the Congo. Apparently, as indication of how much further we need to dig, in a recent discussion with Joe Rogan, Oliver Stone still believes the domino theory was a reality versus another propaganda mirage, and Rogan appeared to accept this view as a legitimate explanation for Vietnam versus control of its independence and resources.
Strongest evidence yet that there is a significant increase in all-cause mortality that can only be explained by the vaccine (although not the only cause):
https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/insurance-death-rates-working-age-people-up-40-percent
It’s both the magnitude of the increase that’s telling and the age profile of those impacted which means it can’t be put down to covid itself which is no doubt what the corporate-state media will try to do when they stop ignoring it (which is in itself extremely telling that so far that’s been what they’ve done). The middle-aged are not large-scale victims of covid even in the official narrative but they are the main group hit by workplace vaccine mandates.
This is probably the biggest stoiry of the last year and a half. It’s revealing it comes from an insurance company report to shareholders and not from a state healthcare body.
And among the Not Dead, health conditions (minor or otherwise) seem to get amplified and become more serious after the vaccines.
video not reachable from here.. They discuss many issues: Operation Mockingbird, Anthony Fauci, Covid, Noam Chomsky and his acolytes, JFK, the CIA’s long deep involvement in germ warfare, the militarizing of medicine, and its pushing of drugs, etc.
Who has missed the point. ? .. The Digital platform has disabled traditional government and disenfranchised many humans; but it has empowered corporate control beyond everyone’s wildest dreams. Grapheme embedded vaccination and 5 g implementation have enabled the digital platform to be used by these families and their corporate empires to regulate lifestyle and to monitor and suppress unwanted human expression.
The digital platform Its the perfect delivery system for global tyranny. Its nearly invisible, its able able to instantaneous discover and repair all systemic leaks This work in progress is happening without the knowledge or consent of the 8 billion people who live on Planet Earth.
The switch to the digital platform has been more successful than any other thing these family owned corporate empires have done: bigger than the Gold vs Silver, and the Railroad deals, and the wheat deals of the 1800s and early 1900s, bigger than the take the oil from the Arab WWI and WWII deals. On the digital platform, corporations have completely replaced traditional government. The digital platform has eliminated people power and enabled nearly exclusive private family ownership of the media corporations and search engine giants, has given them complete control health care and propaganda
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Speak of empires? One well disguised family owned corporate monopoly powered example. Consider that Black Rock, largest shareholder in Vanguard and State Street, collectively own sufficient stock to own or control over 2,000 American companies, which companies earn over $12 trillion annually, and comprise nearly 100% of the S&P 500. Understanding this, explains why the national budget includes so much for things few Americans want or need.
These family owned corporate empires control the governments around the world, They use corporations and governments to wealth directing agents doing jobs that increase family wealth. To these few families, there are too many difficult to satisfy people on earth.
But there is a weakness in the design exist.
According to Ocean Tomo, nearly all of the important assets of the global corporate monsters are intangibles. <= private ownership of exclusive rights to make things (patents) and exclusive rights to use certain methods to make things better (copyright)
and exclusive rights to use software that automates things.
all of these exclusive rights come from rule of law. and it takes a government to make the law. So corporate power has become powerful enough that it controls the laws governments make.
Without law, none of the exclusive rights would exist, because exclusive rights do not exist in nature. Without exclusive right rights these family empires would not exist, and these global corporations would not exist. So to deflate these family empires, and to return control of our destiny to the care of governments, it is necessary only to reverse the laws that have enabled these copyright, patent, and software monopolies to be owned by private family empires.
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Good points. That’s certainly something that needs to be thrashed out in more depth
There are ‘laws’ and there are ‘Laws’.
Rubber-stamped unscrutinized ‘laws’ clearly do not hold the same authority as time-honoured ‘Laws’ that have a moral basis, and have stood the test of centuries
The Pharisees too had their additional ‘laws’, but they were of little worth
Well there’s a surprise:
https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg/status/1479909872024051719
Another one bites the dust.
Yes and no. I sympathize with Murray as a victim of the overclass’s vicious abuse, but he’s always been prone to at least nuzzle the dust.
That is, he’s a contrarian critic on certain issues, but he has a conventional, moderate core.
He may not retain his unwarranted, if not blind, faith in The Rule of Law as much as formerly. But it doesn’t surprise me that he evidently thinks his obsequious advice is a simple matter of “following the science”.
You need hope, good news & the means to fight back? Here it is:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/01/09/how-to-win-the-war-against-tyranny.aspx
Don’t miss it; it’ll be taken down in a day. Off-G, consider picking this up.
Thanks
You’re too kind about Chomsky. He’s a Zionist Jew who resented JFK’s efforts against Israeli influence over America and his condemnation of Secret Societies. His attitude to the assassination of JFK and RFK and his indifference to the slaughter of 3000 New Yorkers has only one explanation.
He a supremacist Jew whose expression of empathy for “fellow humans” is a fake front concealing his loyalty to the Rabbinical forces that Jesus Christ called out as being, “Of Satan”.
Maybe Klein is another example of the ilk when the chips are down.
This tribe now completely dominate America. They will accomplish their mission to destroy it as parasites often destroy their host but they will more than go down with the ship. They are highly likely to suffer the usual treatment that has occurred approximately 900 times, one way or another, throughout European history.
Ordinary, innocent Jews get destroyed along with their ever-blameless leaders.
I think of the CIA as an old-fashioned public toilet.
Smelly, but part of the very fabric of society in its day…
Its day is done, but somebody lost the key to the sewer underneath, so the vermin exterminators can’t get in.
In any case, they say taking a single breath in there would end you.
Nowadays we have masks for that! 😉
Oh, yes… 🙂
Hey, I offended a CIA agent here…
Chomsky is a fraud and a total waste of time, as is Klein. My uncle Bruno is a curmudgeon. Chomsky is not.
RE: curmudgeon
Right, that’s being generous to NC. Chomsky is an overbearing, enormously arrogant prick who’s ego knows no bounds.
Presently, two of my favourite living human beings on this planet.
The truth is out there, never give up hope.
“Quite a trick. That means at least 2-3 cases per person. The Scamdemic ‘BIG LIE’ continues.”
You have to be very “special” to get to be a Supreme Court Justice these days.
And not in a good way….
I listened to part of the oral arguments regarding Biden’s mandates. It was like all the Supreme Court Justices got all their information about Covid and the “vaccines” from CNN. The attorney presenting the case against the mandates never questioned the false ideas that the Pandemic TM an “unprecedented event” warranting extreme measures by government, that Covid was dangerous disease for everyone, that the “vaccines” provide immunity and stop transmission. Never mentioned were the actual IFR, natural immunity or acquired immunity.
I couldn’t listen to any more. Based on this, I predict that the SCOTUS will support Biden’s mandates. No big surprise I suppose. That the Court is heavily conservative, should chasten the right wingers who think the GOP will save them.
RE: 750 million new cases
I remember back in the summer of 2020, we found out (here on Off-G and elsewhere) that “cases” are counted cumulatively.
Is there a way to download the audio file?
I have a couple of apps in my computer that record any sound the system is playing.
If you have a Mac, I think QuickTime can do it.
Surely PCs also have something like that…?
Try right-clicking this link, and choosing ‘save as…’ or equivalent. It’s an mp3 file around 64mb
Look for a YouTube converter and you can choose whether you want just MP3 audio.
“Speaking frankly, the reason Francis Fox Piven and the rest of the jackbooted crocodile teared corporate fascist eugenicist fabian brown shirt charlatan fraudster phony baloneys down at the CUNY Grad Center chose this moron is because she comes off looking like a crazed nincompoop.”
“She has all the appeal of the backside of a horse.
“Perhaps it is time to put the tail back over the face.”
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In other words, she’s being groomed for the Presidency.
Or the Vice-Presidency. It seems that current good-government thinking is that a well-groomed Veep is just a short fall up to the Oval Office Throne.
…- *Those Eyes*!!!:…
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“Do it her way, or the rabbit gets it.”
Carl Bernstein’s 1977 Rolling Stone article on Mockingbird:
https://archive.org/stream/nsia-BernsteinRollingStoneArticlesCIA/nsia-BernsteinRollingStoneArticlesCIA/Bernstein%20CIA%2001_djvu.txt
Bernstein didn’t know its name and excused the Washington Post which could be blinkered loyalty but is more probably a limited hangout.
He happened to be 33 at the time….
A fascinating and enlightening discussion.
You’ve gotta wonder how much the actors, the so called radicals on the Left, have been ‘debriefed’, warned off, threatened, or simply told to pull their heads in.
Makes for a comfortable Life of adulation and respect.
Makes for a Life of slimy hypocrisy.
Well, you could use Chomsky own analysis against him: In an interview with a MSM reporter, NC said something like “if you hadn’t internalized all the mainstream biases, you wouldn’t be here interviewing me.”
So, NC working at MIT, the most generously funded academic institution by the Pentagon, knew what those boundaries were. Same with Professor Naomi Klein, whose excellent book The Shock Doctrine, was followed up by This Changes Everything which might as well have been funded by the WEF it so closely follows the corporate climate change narrative.
Naomi K. IS funded by the WEF…
Well, there you go!