The Narrative and Reality of the Libyan Crisis
Manlio Dinucci
This is Libya, once the most developed and richest country in Africa. Now a gutted shell, home to slavers and warlords.
NATO has expressed concern over the crisis in Libya, which “has direct implications for regional stability and the security of all Allies.” It therefore assures that it “remains committed to providing Libya with defense and security advice”.
The governments of the US, France, Germany, Italy and the UK declare that “free elections will allow the Libyan people to strengthen their sovereignty” and that they are “ready to hold to account those who threaten Libya’s stability.” They reaffirm then “the full respect and commitment to the sovereignty and independence of Libya”.
Solemn words pronounced by the same powers that, after having demolished Yugoslavia in the nineties, disintegrating it from the inside and attacking it from the outside, with the same technique demolished the Libyan State in 2011.
First, they financed and armed inside tribal sectors and Islamic groups hostile to the government, and infiltrated special forces, in particular from Qatar, to make armed clashes flare up. Then they attacked it from outside: in seven months, the US/NATO air force carried out 30 thousand missions, 10 thousand of which were attacks, with over 40 thousand bombs and missiles.
Italy participated in the war — directed by the United States, first through the Africa Command, then through NATO under US command — with 7 air bases, fighter-bombers and an aircraft carrier.
The North African state was thus demolished, a state that — documented in 2010 by the World Bank — had “high levels of economic growth and human development”.
Thanks to energy exports, the Libyan government had invested nearly 150 billion dollars abroad. Libyan investments in Africa were crucial to the African Union’s plan to create its own financial bodies, a common market and a single African currency.
Emails from the Secretary of State of the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton, later brought to light by WikiLeaks, show that the United States and France wanted to eliminate Gaddafi before he used Libya’s gold reserves to create a pan-African currency alternative to the dollar and the Cfa franc (the currency imposed by France on 14 former colonies).
Before the bombers went into action, the banks went into action: they seized the 150 billion dollars invested abroad by the Libyan government, most of which has since disappeared, thus blocking the entire African project.
All of this has been erased in the political-media narrative of the Libyan crisis, allowing those primarily responsible for the social catastrophe caused by the war on Libya to present themselves as its saviors.
Today in Libya the revenues from energy exports are hoarded by militias and multinationals. Large quantities of Libyan oil are sold by smugglers to European Union countries, through Maltese companies that recycle it, disguising its origin.
The standard of living of the population has collapsed. Libya has become the main transit route of a chaotic migratory flow that has caused more victims than the war of 2011.
According to IOM data, about 1,500 migrants drowned in the Mediterranean in 2021, but they are certainly more since many cases are not reported.
In 2021 alone about 30 thousand migrants were intercepted at sea and brought back to Libya by the “Libyan” Coast Guard, created, trained and financed by Italy with 33 million euros. Many ended up in detention centers of both the “government” in Tripoli and the militias.
Today more than 600,000 migrants of around 45 nationalities are trapped in Libya, practically reduced to a state of slavery, forced to work without pay and beaten. More and more are those who ask not to be brought to Europe, but to return to their countries to escape this condition. Particularly dramatic is that of young women, sold at auction, raped and forced into prostitution.
All this thanks to the operation “Unified Protector” that, claims the Italian Ministry of Defense, was carried out by NATO in 2011 for “the protection of civilians in Libya”.
Originally published in Italian in Il Manifesto, first published in English by Global Research
Manlio Dinucci, award-winning author, geopolitical analyst and geographer, Pisa, Italy. He is a Research Associate of the Centre for Research on Globalization (CRG).
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“In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” – Franklin D. Roosevelt To me the key idea in the article is that Gaddafi signed his own death warrant by proposing to use Libbya’s gold reserves to create a pan-African currency alternative to the dollar. Your reference to Yugoslavia is also cogent. NATOs illegal decimation of the coalition of disparate political entities was ordered to rid the global hegemon of the sole European socialist-democratic alternative to the prevailing model of neo-feudal fascist "capitalism ".Titos emphasis on worker self-management and decentralization was anathema to the narrative that with the disintegration of the Soviet Union the ruling “capitalist free-market ” hegemon had triumphed and marked “the end of history ” as some academics with breathtaking hubris proclaimed. Cuba is another example of a small non-aggressive state posing no rational threat, military or otherwise, to the ruling global hegemon. It was however an unacceptable successful meme of political economy that had… Read more »
Sorry about weird font. Looked normal my end.
“Every now and then the United $tate$ needs to pick up some little country and smash it against the wall to show the world who’s boss” — The Man from Uncle.
Libya was the last of such unfortunate little countries. The crucifixion of Libya has led to the formation of a group known as the Axis of Resistance: Lebanon’s Hezb’Allah, Iraq’s PMF, Yemen’s Houti, Syria, Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Iran, Russia and China. The last 3 are have home-grown modern weapons, some of which outmatch current NATZO weapons. Hence this little clip from an essay that I came across today:
https://thesaker.is/the-not-ultimatum/
“It is a rather sad delusion when the US sends aircraft carriers near Iran or China as a show of force, when it is clear that the range of the aircraft onboard the [U$] carriers is inferior to the range of Iranian and Chinese anti-ship missiles.”
Any chance of a trial at the Hague prosecuting the banks for ‘grand larceny in concert with the mass murder campaigns of the Western ‘alliance”?
If $150bn of Libyan money is missing, there must be a paper trail showing where that money was invested. Those banks should have their Boards hung without trial unless they return every single penny along with 10 years of accrued interest and a $500bn fine for international gangsterism and criminality.
Can’t see that happening, but it’s time that there was a deafening cacophany of voices demanding justice for Libya….
In part, the banks may be following orders. In 2013, the Empire and its poodles froze €11 billion in foreign exchange belonging to Libya. In 2017, some monetary authority simply declared that to be “missing”. -levif.be 2018
london/yanks thieved venezuela’s gold
Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Samantha Powers should be hanged.
Why could the terrible despot Gaddafi drive around Tripoli in an open car waving to people along the way?
Why is there a new high concrete wall being erected around the White House, within the bounds of the existing high metal fence?
So many questions …
To hold up its pants.
To get to the other side.
Riddle:
Why did the United States destroy the most successful socialist country in Europe, the most successful Muslim countries in the Middle East, and the most successful country in Africa?
Possible answers:
1. To get to the other side.
2. It wanted to see time fly.
3. Because it could.
4. To hold up its pants.
5. To kill the chicken.
And break all the clocks.
They will create the virus and the antidotes, then pretend to take their time to find the solution. -Muammar Gaddafi, speech at UN, 2009 (1) A strong hand was necessary to keep Libya in one piece. It is a country of some 150 tribes. Now, with a counterpart to Karzai installed in Tripoli, the country can be plundered. Total has already grabbed around 30% of the Libyan state oil company. BP is starting exploration. Western businesses will get massive contracts for reconstruction. (2) The supposedly free press failed to mention how Gaddafi ran his country: – 40 loaves of bread cost $0.15. – Cars were 50% subsidised. Petrol cost $0.14/L. – Medical treatment, electricity, water and education were provided free. The literacy rate rose from 25% to 83%. A citizen who could not get the education or medical treatment locally would be provided with it abroad, free. For education, this… Read more »
+1
thank you
JFK
Gaddafi addressed the UN on one occasion implicating Israel in the JFK assassination. Another reason he was bumped off.
For all those that got injected Thankyou for taking my freedoms away.Thankyou for going along with the tyranny.Thankyou for your cowardice.You thought somewhere in your simple minds it would make it all go away???
Chin up, 2022 can only get better or worse.
23 Sep 2009 Muammar Gaddafi speech at United Nations General Assembly
He knew what was going on that’s why he was taken out.
There’s also a lengthy interview in which the interviewer attempts to provoke him into saying something nasty but ends up looking like an idiot.
Private insurers to cover home COVID-19 tests starting Saturday
WASHINGTON – Starting Saturday, private health insurers will be required to cover up to eight home COVID-19 tests per month for people on their plans. The Biden administration announced the change Monday as it looks to lower costs and make testing for the virus more convenient amid rising frustrations.
“Today, our administration announced that beginning January 15, 2022, individuals covered by a health insurance plan who purchase an FDA-approved, over-the-counter COVID-19 diagnostic test will be able to have those tests covered by their insurance,” White House posted in a tweet.
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/private-insurers-to-cover-home-covid-19-tests-starting-saturday
Great that means people who cant afford private health nsurance will have to pay for it.
The man that helped make rna.phiezer scientist,Doctors nurses take no heed they are just conspiracy theorists they know nothing listen to the science????Science think they are God now??Don’t listen to your own body take the drugs we love you?We want you to suffer with no cures but who wants healthy people we can’t make money off of healthy people!We have the cure it’s stop taking our poisons making you sicker,Can’t make money off of you healthy serf’s.And in a minute we won’t need you because we will have robots to replace you 👍
Wish I wasn’t saying all this!!!???Wish we were not going through this in these times,But we are.What can we do against governments that are tyrannical against your my neighbours grassing on us?!?While we are being mocked?Im not happy about it not for nearly 2 years.A jokes a joke stop it now.
yugoslavia had to be destroyed to save kosovo and to build camp bond steel drug base for afghan heroin
iraq had to be destroyed because saddam hussein was an evil doer anti semite
libya gaddaffi rufused imf loans and central bank in that second city and talked of gold for oil oil for gold transaction he was also an evil doer anti semite
villages have to be destroyed to save the village
israel is real
oded yinon is a big idea
and so it yemen and syria must go on
Kill everyone as long as the parasites get their money?!!?Close your eyes nothing to see here.They are the ruler’s put up or shut up that’s why they have the cia mi5 NSA un keep you in line you cattle 😂👍
The interventions were safe and effective (and democratic).
Believe in the science look into the science eyes 😂
Off topic but the government’s have gone insane 😬
Please stop putting apostrophes on plural words when they aren’t needed…
Spot on any topic these days. Ever since Con-911 2001.
A terrorists kill some people and blow up some buildings. But it takes a government to really mess up the whole country.
Exactly 👍
I think that you’re right-on-topic. The unchecked murder of world leaders and other ‘enlightened’ bright-sparks is the very point of the matter. The world has gone quite insane only because we have invariably tolerated the tyrannies we deserve … whether we want to believe that or not.
Most tyrannies have their origins with simple things like allowing individuals to control and privatize public resources and monopolise facets of the media, etc. In Australia, a large part of the rot set in with John Howard who sucked-up and sold his soul to Murdoch et al. Howard should have been put against the wall and … sh … vaxxed, for selling Telstra and Sydney Airport to profiteers.
It is amazing how quickly the Marxists shut down the huge 2003 antiwar movement. More proof they are fake opposition and bankster functionaries. Prior to the war they came out in numbers in support of Woodside Petroleum and for the dismemberment of impoverished Indonesia.
77th I think…
Your thought processes are deficient.
😁 Look who’s talking!
Marxists did that?
Where the heck do you get such dumb, convoluted, deranged ideas?
Lemme guess, you’re an American, ha-ha, an educated one at that?
Bonus round: you consider yourself smart, don’t you?
Hilarious!
No I am not a Yank. The Marxists (Rothschildists) were given control of the antiwar movement. It just so happens it evaporated in months. The Iraqi Communist Party supported the brutal shock and awe invasion.
What in the world are you talking about?
When did Rothschilds become Marxists? On what basis do you claim anybody, let alone Marxists or Rothschilds, are in control of ‘the anti-war movement,’ and who gave them this control?
Seriously, guy, your assertions are so outlandish they beggar belief.
I never ask for citations but seriously I doubt you’re making it up out of wholecloth, so where in the world did you get such harebrained ideas?
(Lord) Lionel Rothschild and Karl Marx were third cousins.
😅 You may not be a Yank but you’re certainly not averse to a yank or two.
😂 Where would we be without the unfailing right wing opposition to wars, eh?
Are you Marxists still allowed to criticise Israel ?
😂 Changing the topic instead of answering the question = typical troll behaviour.
Ebola, and Marburg, lurking about ready to take center stage ?
‘On 15 March 2021 Christine Massey received a response from the CDC regarding the Ebola virus. The CDC informed her they could find no records indicating the virus had ever been isolated and purified, from a patient sample.’
‘I have examined in detail the literature on isolation and EMS [EM: electron microscope pictures] of both Ebola and Marburg viruses. I have not found any convincing evidence that Ebola virus (and for that matter Marburg) has been isolated from humans. There is certainly no confirmatory evidence of human isolation.. David Rasnick. PhD.’
Jon Rappoport. Ebola. Shattering the lies and the fakery.
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2022/01/12/ebola-shattering-the-lies-and-the-fakery/m.
clumsy ! somehow ‘m’ attached itself to the end.
Try:
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2022/01/12/ebola-shattering-the-lies-and-the-fakery/
Thank you for this link. It comes closer to hitting the virus nail on the head than anything else I’ve ever read.
Howard, i hadnt realised ’til i re-read Rappoport’s article today that implicit in my thinking is the notion that ‘covid’ is the cover story for 5g implementation.
With the acceptance of mRNA ‘gene therapy’ technology there has occurred the unthinking acceptance by many of of genomic ideology. If the unscientific germ theory is hard to uproot, genomic ideology will maybe prove harder to…
Jon Rappoport has published articles challenging ‘gene therapy’, they’re worth a read…
Meanwhile, in the oldest civilised nation on Earth, it’s all systems go:
https://dissidentvoice.org/2022/01/chinas-excellent-very-good-year/
Do you have any proof to back up your outlandish claim?
Let’s not get sidetracked: your claim is that China is the oldest civilized nation on Earth.
Then again, perhaps it’s all in the word ‘civilized’. Maybe you need to provide your definition of the term.
An article that doesn’t mention covid even once and is actually rational! Is Off Guardian feeling well?
Oh wait, it’s a reprint from Global Research, not something Off Guardianaganda had to strain its two neurons to write. Carry on, then.
And the world wide manufactured hysteria, using manufactured numbers, over a manufactured ‘pandemic’ IS rational?
Ain’t buyin no bridges from you BP.
Why don’t you ask for your money back?
Night shift again? I’d suggest that you get a proper job long term. It won’t be easy explaining to your enslaved grandchildren one day that you worked for the 77th Brigade Disinformation Unit.
Fuck you, shill.
Catchy name … who thunk it up for you?
Biswapriya Purkayastha is a name familiar to other Truther sites for “spreading alarm and despondency”. I think he is a constitutional Mrs Mopp rather than a shill:
“It’s being so cheerful as keeps me going” — ITMA.
This is a well thought out comment – it must be, it’s odd on too many levels to be coincidental.
First off, Global Research does exactly what Off Guardian does: it reprints articles gotten from primary sources.
Consequently, both sites have few original articles.
Thirdly – and oddest of all – articles mentioning covid are “trending” right now, and have been for two years, and are likely to continue for some time to come. Not to mention the majority of comments on any article center around covid. So it’s only rational to offer your readers what they want.
And lastly, rationality is often subjective. Any article is only as rational as its organizing premise. So while each separate part of an article can appear rational in and of itself, the overall article can still remain irrational if its premise is flawed.
Gaddafi was a visionary. A major reason Gaddafi had to go was Libya’s oil.
The global economy is being given a make-over, and all the Grand Plans – The New World Order, Great Reset, Total Surveillance Society, need energy. Vast amounts of Energy…
‘Hundreds of thousands of data storage and streaming centres around the world powered by fossil fuels and the high energy demand of 5g compared to wi-fi wireless technology are escalating carbon emissions and have become a major contributor to global Climate Crisis.’…
For the system to work: billions will need to be deleted to remove their competition for energy. If there’s a war going on somewhere it’s over control of the energy, or control of the minerals needed to establish the total surveillance state…
A thing about visionaries, they never seem to be able to see it coming…
https://www.naturalblaze.com/2022/01/5g-emf-rf-iout-electropollution-existential-threat-to-public-health-companion-animals-and-life-on-earth-part-1-of-3
Major reason Gaddafi was targeted for assassination, what his efforts to convert to a gold-standard using Dinar as the currency thus circumventing USD. He was hugely popular in N. Africa and uniting that former colonial region of the world. Much to learn regarding his Green Book and how Libya had been governed.
People shouldn’t be mislabelling anti-authoritarians as anti-vaxxers.
Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2022-01-12. DARPA doc: IVM works . Polysorbate allergy. Cover up jab deaths, injuries. Disrupt Menstrual Cycles (blog, gab, tweet).
(*Emphasis* mine)
…- You don’t say?…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalifa_Haftar
Hidden in a plain site
Thanks for that WikiPedia ref. Reading further, Haftar is not only linked to CIA Langley but supported by Russia as well as by “Western assets in the ME” such as Egypt and Anglo-American oil such as the Saudi Kingdom and the Gulf Emirates.
We really crucified that country.
I like this hilarity … “The governments of the US, France, Germany, Italy and the UK declare that “free elections will allow the Libyan people to strengthen their sovereignty”
… first you phuckem, then you tell everyone that you’re going to ensure that they don’t get phucked. Who writes this mind-phuckery? Do pardon the expressionism.
…- So long as Saif ain’t in the running, that is…
(…I note that a Libyan court just overturned his nullification by Libya’s
SelectionElection Commision, last month… – Hmm, well… – Keep watching this space, folks…)Yes.fukking unbearable.
It’s déjà vu all over again! Several years ago, in the aftermath of the US-led “Coalition of the Willing”‘s illicit and illegal war of aggression and occupation of Iraq, some pundit wrote an article strongly arguing that the US forces had an obligation to remain in Iraq indefinitely in order to right the wrongs they had committed by invading in the first place. The article was published at a site that cultivated a progressive-liberal readership. This was a lifetime ago, so at the time I vaguely considered myself a “progressive”. But I was seriously bugged by not only the article, but the approving chorus in the comments. This may have been before I became acquainted with the term “liberal interventionist”, so I was aggravated by the pious consensus that US forces and a general US presence (including NGOs) not only had a moral responsibility to righteously repair what the coalition had destroyed,… Read more »
The ‘pundit’ might have been Colin Powell?? If it was, he would have been suspicious of the agenda (of the NeoCons) for Iraq because the blueprints, or plans for the ‘Green-zone’ were drawn-up approx. 2 years BEFORE 9-11. The ‘Green-zone’ is the satellite-city constructed within the demarcated safe-zone, ostensibly serving the purpose of a quasi-government HQ. Go figure … and these bastards-in-suits continue to do as they please, where-ever they please, without batting an eyelid – re: the illegality of their dastardly deeds. To make matters worse … it is plain for us all to see that they seem to feel that they are UNTOUCHABLE due to the little matter of having all governments in their pockets. The many ‘Jeffrey Epsteins’ and assorted moles no doubt proved invaluable with ensuring that 99% of useful idiots in positions of ‘authority’ were compromised in some way, to make control that much easier,… Read more »
NATO, led by Killery and O’Bomber, destroyed Libya, no doubt. But why is it forgotten that at the time fighting started in the streets of Libya, Feb 2011, Khamis Gaddafi, son of Muammar, the ruler, and commander of the most important unit of the Libyan army, was in the US, touring ….military bases? He was allowed to go home and rejoin his unit. Or that in 2009, Gaddafi’s other son, Mutassim, foreign minister, visited the US State Department in Washington DC, Killery raised him a toast? Do Orwellian memory holes operate within the opposition as well?
After the initial days of the bombing and strafing, the French and UK ships and planes ran out of ammo. Fortunately, Big Brother was there to help.
What are you trying to say? A rapprochement between Ghadaffi and the Empire had occurred after Libya agreed to cop as the patsies for Lockerbie. Billy Waugh, lauded as a superannuated great commando for freedom in the Global War On Terror™ in 2001 had worked in Libya in the era when terrorists, among them IRA people, were being trained by active-duty Green Berets. There has always been a curious relationship between the Empire and Ghadaffi’s Libya. This is no way negates the fact that Ghadaffi’s ambitions created conflict with the Empire’s economic interests, and so he was killed and the state was destroyed by the Empire. These guys were shocked, just shocked, at the extent of the Libyan friendship with the Provos, even though the CIA had arranged for active-duty US assets to staff the terror academy. https://www.rte.ie/news/2021/1228/1267955-state-papers-libya-ira/ This article describes the men as “former” Green Berets, but that is… Read more »
Genuine protest or staged dialectic?
https://dumptheguardian.com/media/2022/jan/12/man-uses-hammer-to-attack-statue-on-front-of-bbc-broadcasting-house
The BBC/Fraud’s reporting, calling those who might have a slight problem with the statue obsessives and QAnon followers, should come as no surprise.
The treatment the men get, compared to what happened in Bristol, will be interesting to see.
well in fairness, if the story is genuine, if the vandals who chucked the statue in the river in Bristol could be found not guilty because they felt it was right for their political leanings, then this dude should also be found not guilty, the beeb can’t have it both ways.
The BBC/Fraud’s reporting does nothing of the kind. I suggest you read it.
I’d lock ’em up and throw away the key, because I know they would approve.
Saddam Hussein was another one who wanted to be free of the US dollar.
Saddam was an ideal imperial satrap. He even used imperial chemical weapons against his own people, and conducted a major proxy war against Iran.
The only sin he ever committed was to express an interest once in selling petroleum in currencies other than $.
Iran was heavily armed by Israel and the West during the fratricidal 8 year long bloodbath. Khomeini and his successors are a bankster Trojan horse.
What’s fratricidal about (mainly) Sunni Arabs fighting Shia Iranians?
You have ignored the vast global operation to get the two countries to spend their vast oil revenues on enriching Israeli and Western merchants of death.
Has NATO admitted that it actually caused the ‘Crisis in Libya’ yet?
…- Have Hell’s glaciers shown signs of advancing yet?…
speaking of the devil;
https://www.azerbaycan24.com/en/stoltenberg-timeframe-for-ukraine-and-georgia-to-join-nato-not-set-yet/
The West destroyed Yugoslavia from the air based upon lies to further the globalists’ agenda which included global drug trafficking, control of potential pipeline routes and replacing a nationalistic sovereign leader by demonizing him as a war criminal. They used the same playbook to go after Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi, Assad in Syria and a host of others. The writer failed to mention Gaddafi was open to Chinese investment and cooperation, his funding of continental telecommunications projects and the creation of a gold backed African currency. The globalists cannot/will not abide any leader who does not go along with their global agenda of pillage and plunder and hegemony. This is why they meticulously recruit, groom and push psychopaths, traitors and perverts for “leadership” positions all around the world. A prime example is Hamid Karzai the first “elected” president of Afghanistan because he was a member of one of the largest… Read more »
“replacing a nationalistic sovereign leader” Milosevic was probably already a western agent.
They wouldn’t have killed him if he was.
not news, but an eternal horror story, notably featuring Hilary essentially licking the bayonet.
unbridled evil.
that thing remains a female icon and Africa remains enslaved.
…- ‘Little’ Ms. Arkancide, herself…
…Also:…
“We came. We saw. He Died!… – *Yuk, Yuk Yuk*!!…”
Western oligarchy found a seamless way to continue the exploitation of Africa and the Middle East. The old tropes about “bringing civilization” and “bringing Christianity” to the “heathens” were simply replaced with new “woke” rationales. Now we bomb, torture, kill you, invade your country and starve you – because “we love you!” In other words, under the guise of our concern for your – “human rights.” I mean after all we in the West are a noble breed and we have a “duty to protect” responsibility which requires we first create reams of fatuous regime-change propaganda, BEFORE we illegally invade and destroy your nation. We call this living in a “rules based order.” Meanwhile, the shameful reality of our crimes against humanity simply get quickly scrubbed and deposited down Orwell’s “memory hole.” To the question “how much do we love you” we can say, as Madeline Albright famously revealed –… Read more »
Libya was my red pill moment when I realized our crimes, was kicked off a liberal US site for posting about them, and realized I was no longer a Democrat.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek&w=560&h=315%5D
Yugoslavia… on the globopoltico front anyway.
It’s interesting that the left, who consider themselves to be so well-read, simply shut down any information which runs counter to their belief system. I, too, am regularly censored from sites where I question the narrative. There is a difference between being an “agitating troll” on a commenting site and positing alternative explanations for events. But somehow those on the left cannot stomach any contradicting information and have been rewarded with a new ‘one-word’ counterargument: “That’s MISINFORMATION”. Which in their mind settles the discussion.
Its worth bearing in mind that the terms ‘left’ and ‘right’ come from the traditional seating arrangements in the UK’s House of Commons and refer to the Conservatives (Royalists) and Liberal (“Whigs” — business and traders) interests. Although there have been Labour groujping in practice all parties in both the US and the UK represent two factions of the same party. “The Left” only exists as a mildly social democratic party at best and in practice it will only be allowed power if it can prove that its credentials with regard to important policies (NATO, Cold War etc.) are sound. Mixed in with all this you have numerous ad-hoc groups, many of which use the rhetoric of Marxism and later revolutionaries. Most are of no account. Occasionally one becomes a representative and they’re allowed to speak — we live in ‘democracies’, after all — but there’s absolutely no chance they… Read more »
*****
As a man of the left, I don’t recognise these censorious b**stds as ‘left’.
I want to hear all sides, always.
How can I plan against my enemies if I can’t hear them?
SunTzu (?)!!
First the Western scum destroy yet another country and their populations. Sanctioned by the filth who are a danger to the planet we live on . But hey these countries are easy meat for this criminality. The great prize in their greedy eyes is Russia which is the real bastion of all evil. Don’t take my word for it. This from the UK Government website…..
“Is Russia a threat to the UK’s national security?
Foreign Office minister Vicky Ford said, “Russia’s actions do pose an acute and direct threat to the national security not only of the UK but also its allies”.
Here’s a bit of Vicky’s early grounding and ‘experience’ as to her present position.
Between 1989 and 2001, Ford worked for JPMorgan Chase. She was promoted to vice-president in their loan syndication department.[6] In 2001, she joined Bear Stearns as managing director for loan capital markets where she worked until 2003.[
…I wonder if she blazes as much weed as her old boss Jimmy Cayne?…
…- A: Only if you insist on keep fucking around with theirs (cf: Livonian/Teutonic Orders, 1242; Charles XII of Sweden. 1709; N. Bonaparte, 1812; A. Hitler 1945, etc.)…
indeed, original iron curtain was them turnips and the grand duchy was it not?
russia was never welcome.
Yes, NATO eyes the old USSR republics to be gobbled up one by one. Kazakhstan, oil, uranium, bitcoin mining (oh, shut that down, upsets the bankers)
The Libya’s around the world keep me – as they should any humane rational person – from feeling even the least bit sorry for everything now happening to the peoples of the “Free World.”
Simply put, the “West” – the “First World” (first in inflicting misery on everyone else) – deserves everything it’s getting.
“Oh but what of the children? Surely they don’t deserve what they’re getting?” you might ask. To which I must answer: The Sins of the Father. It always happens that way: the innocent end up paying for the evils of the guilty. (But then, the “innocent” will very likely grow up believing as their guilty elders do.)
Karma is never a one-to-one dynamic. It should be, but it isn’t. It’s inter-generational. As such, God help the descendants of the monsters who deliberately create misery for others to enrich themselves.
that’s a tad myopic old bean, it’s not like ole whitey has a monopoly on slaughtering innocents at home and abroad. we’ve just grown up in an era where it was obvious to some that “we” were the bad guys especially, really.
think the assyrians did a lot of genocide, the turkic steppe people too, them central americans ..or so we are told.
having said all that, i actually agree that the hardships looming for olde-whitey-land are well earned, and justified in many a sense.
i won’t miss the version of developed society i live in at all.
“allowing those primarily responsible for the social catastrophe caused by their war on Libya to present themselves as its saviors.”
Trial run for Con-B3. Build Back Better, “allowing those primarily responsible for the social catastrophe caused by Con-19 to present themselves as saviors.”
“We came; we saw; he died,” jubilant Mrs. Clinton said on tv interview celebrating Gaddafi’s sodomy and death. Author Manlio Dinucci is a gem.
What an unwitting view of the game.
When I was a kid I remember asking my dad why we had to keep to rules
as people when countries seemed to act like psychopaths towards each other. She is psychotic.
In the world of the blind …
A couple of year ago I asked a woman who I had grown up with back in my youth in South Wales what she thought about the leaders of states like Syria and Libya and also threw in a question about the character of Julian Assange. Her replies? “They are monsters and he’s a monster”. Ok, I asked, what about us (the UK)? “We’re the good guy, the White Knight”.
Sigh!
Against the determinedly ignorant all arguments are destined to fail.
And I feel we are now paying for that ignorance and indifference today. They’ve now launched a war against all of us under the guise of a pandemic. I predicted a few years back, Libya, Syria etc would all come back to bite us. Mind you, I didn’t think it would be as far reaching and multi- pronged. You live and learn and despite everything glad to see the world for what it is. Rather be awake and burdened than ignorant.
Libya’s ruins, and the suffering of its people is a warning to the the other nations of Africa from the Empire of War, Fear, Greed and Hypocrisy.
‘Don’t fuck with us!’
‘We do whatever we like’
What happened to Libya is where I completely lost faith in the Democrat party. I happily voted for Obama in 2008, but his role in what happened to Libya completely changed my perspective about the man. He spoke in lofty terms, ‘peace we can believe in’, ‘hope we can hope for’, vacuous nonsense which even struck me as odd in his speeches in 2004, and I noticed that there was nothing of substance in what he said. But, I liked the fact that he was an African American, with the middle name ‘Hussein’, which made him seem ideal to stop the idiotic anti-Islamic nonsense that was kind of fueling the Middle-Eastern wars, at least it seemed like that. It was wishful thinking and he even received the Nobel Prize for peace, having done nothing for peace as a basis for that. Anyway, this article outlines the tragedy of what is… Read more »
https://www.marxists.org/archive/debs/works/1918/court.htm
Over and over again, these three pictures…
Reminds me of many years ago when I stood with three friends in a queue to get into a cinema to see ‘Titanic’.
When we finally got to the entrance, we were told that there were only 3 tickets left for the four of us…
Much miffed, we hummed and hahed about what we should do.
At this point, one of my students who was ahead of us in the queue and had already bought his ticket, said that we could have his.
“What extraordinary generosity!”, I exclaimed.
“It’s alright”, he said. “I’ve already seen it five times”.
I was grateful for the ticket, but I was also really itching to ask him, “Is your memory really that bad…???”
Movies we love do that to us – watching them over and over. That’s how I feel about Robert Altman’s “Nashville.” Took me 45 years to finally see it (I was afraid it wouldn’t live up to my expectation). Now I’m kind of addicted to it.
Since we’re a bit “off topic” here already, let me add that “Titanic” (which I haven’t seen) – made in 1997 – might qualify as a good movie. I base that on my opinion that 1975 then again 2005 were banner years for entertainment/movies/tv series; and that anything after 2005 probably isn’t worth watching (Red Dwarf’s “The Promised Land” being the exception that proves the rule).
Now, back on topic: the US has a way of trying to destroy any nation which dares to base its economy on a currency other than the US Dollar.
(I’ve just figured something out which is a bit distressing. I’ve edited this comment three times – rushing to meet the 15 minute deadline for making edits – which I just missed on this edit. It just occurred to me: OffG is allowing us “15 minutes of fame” and no more. Is that ’cause they like us?)
I don’t think it’s a problem.
Our incompletely edited masterpieces still give us far more than “15 minutes of fame…” 😉
Write your masterpiece in a text editor like notepad first, then copy and paste it into t’internet
That’s cheating! I write live. (OK, it shows)
lets just enjoy some good old: true romance, aliens, last of the mohicans, ?
and empty our heads, in a sense.
: )
Interstellar- gets better every time I watch it
sorry, other than the driverless tractors and them “they’re not hills” scene
utter pish, fs matt damonmattdamon is even in it!
that’s a bit harsh tbf, but grossly overrated.
maybe i should watch it again.
Nah. Titanic was tripe.
Isn’t the leading man of this Hollyweird production (di Caprio if I recall) from Claws Anal Schwab’s WEF stable ?
Stop already with this creep.
“War Criminals of a Feather.”
“Laughing at a lynching.”
https://www.blackagendareport.com/hillary-clinton-2020-malcolm-xs-american-nightmare-steroids
“Te-He, Te-He, Te-He.”
Their physical ugliness is a reflection of the ugliness of their evil souls.
What happens when a multimillionaire faux-socialiste and an academic super-bureaucrat embrace?
Hilarity.
We will set class against class until there remains only one class: our own.
Always with the class, divide and rule.
aye
“The Republicrats, the political racket so criminal and corrupt it needs to aliases.”
“Long overdue to end that sham.”
“We do not have choices. We have owners. The war racketeer corporate fascist eugenicist oligarch mobster psychopath Nazis own us.”
it needs to aliases 😂
There in it together 😂😂
For give me for the first (two) spelling mistake. It was a typo. As to the spelling mistake in the meme (there instead of they are) that is not my doing. Just passing the meme along to anyone who may wish to use it. Thanks.
forgive
🤣
Why use a meme that will most likely just raise sniggers from the literate whether or not they are aware of the issue(s)?