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Bathed in Pesticides: the Narrative of Deception

Rosemary Mason & Colin Todhunter

The volume of pesticide use and exposure is occurring on a scale that is without precedent and world-historical in nature. Agrichemicals are now pervasive as they cycle through bodies and environments. The herbicide glyphosate has been a major factor in driving this increase in use.

These statements appear in a 2021 paper ‘Growing Agrichemical Ubiquity: New Questions for Environments and Health’ (Community of Excellence in Global Health Equity).

The authors state that when the WHO’s International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) declared glyphosate to be a “probable carcinogen” in 2015, the fragile consensus about its safety was upended.

They note that in 2020 the US Environmental Protection Agency affirmed that glyphosate-based herbicides (GBHs) pose no risk to human health, apparently disregarding new evidence about the link between glyphosate and non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma as well as its non-cancer impacts on the liver, kidney and gastrointestinal system.

The multi-authored paper notes:

In just under 20 years, much of the Earth has been coated with glyphosate, in many places layering on already chemical-laden human bodies, other organisms and environments.”

However, the authors add that glyphosate is not the only pesticide to achieve broad-scale pervasiveness:

The insecticide imidacloprid, for example, coats the majority of US maize seed, making it the most widely used insecticide in US history. Between just 2003 and 2009, sales of imidacloprid products rose 245% (Simon-Delso et al. 2015). The scale of such use, and its overlapping effects on bodies and environments, have yet to be fully reckoned with, especially outside of countries with relatively strong regulatory and monitoring capacities.”

According to Phillips McDougall’s Annual Agriservice Reports, herbicides made up 43% of the global pesticide market in 2019 by value. Much of the increase in glyphosate use is due to the introduction of glyphosate-tolerant soybean, maize, and cotton seeds in the US, Brazil and Argentina.

The global pesticide industry is valued at over $50 billion (Phillips McDougal 2018).

Eating poison

In December 2021, a piece appeared in the prominent Danish newspaper Weekendavisen. Written by Niels Bjerre, agricultural affairs manager at Bayer CropScience in Copenhagen, ‘Thank goodness for pesticides’ set out to convince readers that sustainable modern agriculture cannot be done without using pesticides.

Denmark-based environmental campaigner Rosemary Mason has responded with the document ‘Open Letter to Bayer: Monsanto concealed the toxicity of Roundup to human health and the environment’ which mentions but goes beyond the now well-documented duplicity of Monsanto (which Bayer bought in 2018) – see the ‘Monsanto Papers’ – to highlight the ongoing damage being done by pesticides like glyphosate.

Mason lists many pertinent studies. For instance, a French team has found heavy metals in chemical formulants of GBHs in people’s diets. As with other pesticides, 10–20% of GBHs consist of chemical formulants. Families of petroleum-based oxidized molecules and other contaminants have been identified as well as the heavy metals arsenic, chromium, cobalt, lead and nickel, which are known to be toxic and endocrine disruptors.

In 1988, Ridley and Mirly (commissioned by Monsanto) found bioaccumulation of glyphosate in rat tissues. Residues were present in bone, marrow, blood and glands including the thyroid, testes and ovaries, as well as major organs, including the heart, liver, lungs, kidneys, spleen and stomach. Glyphosate was also associated with ophthalmic degenerative lens changes.

A Stout and Rueker (1990) study (also commissioned by Monsanto) provided concerning evidence with regard to cataracts following glyphosate exposure in rats. It is interesting to note that the rate of cataract surgery in England “increased very substantially” between 1989 and 2004: from 173 (1989) to 637 (2004) episodes per 100,000 population.

A 2016 study by the WHO also confirmed that the incidence of cataracts had greatly increased: ‘A global assessment of the burden of disease from environmental risks’ says that cataracts are the leading cause of blindness worldwide. Globally, cataracts are responsible for 51% of blindness. In the US, between 2000 and 2010 the number of cases of cataract rose by 20% from 20.5 million to 24.4 million. It is projected that by 2050, the number of people with cataracts will have doubled to 50 million.

The authors of ‘Assessment of Glyphosate Induced Epigenetic Transgenerational Inheritance of Pathologies and Sperm Epimutations: Generational Toxicology’ (Scientific Reports, 2019) noted that ancestral environmental exposures to a variety of factors and toxicants promoted the epigenetic transgenerational inheritance of adult-onset disease.

They proposed that glyphosate can induce the transgenerational inheritance of disease and germline (for example, sperm) epimutations. Observations suggest the generational toxicology of glyphosate needs to be considered in the disease etiology of future generations.

In a 2017 study, Carlos Javier Baier and colleagues documented behavioural impairments following repeated intranasal glyphosate-based herbicide administration in mice. Intranasal GBH caused behavioural disorders, decreased locomotor activity, induced an anxiogenic behaviour and produced memory deficit.

The paper contains references to many studies from around the world that confirm GBHs are damaging to the development of the foetal brain and that repeated exposure is toxic to the adult human brain and may result in alterations in locomotor activity, feelings of anxiety and memory impairment.

Highlights of a 2018 study on neurotransmitter changes in rat brain regions following glyphosate exposure include neurotoxicity in rats. And in a 2014 study which examined mechanisms underlying the neurotoxicity induced by glyphosate-based herbicide in the immature rat hippocampus, it was found that Monsanto’s glyphosate-based Roundup induces various neurotoxic processes.

In the paper ‘Glyphosate damages blood-testis barrier via NOX1-triggered oxidative stress in rats: Long-term exposure as a potential risk for male reproductive health’ (Environment International, 2022) it was noted that glyphosate causes blood-testis barrier (BTB) damage and low-quality sperm and that glyphosate-induced BTB injury contributes to sperm quality decrease.

The study Multiomics reveal non-alcoholic fatty liver disease in rats following chronic exposure to an ultra-low dose of Roundup herbicide (2017), revealed non-fatty acid liver disease (NFALD) in rats following chronic exposure to an ultra-low dose of Roundup herbicide. NFALD currently affects 25% of the US population and similar numbers of Europeans.

The 2020 paper ‘Glyphosate exposure exacerbates the dopaminergic neurotoxicity in the mouse brain after repeated of MPTP’ suggests that glyphosate may be an environmental risk factor for Parkinson’s.

In the 2019 Ramazzini Institute’s 13-week pilot study that looked into the effects of GBHs on development and the endocrine system, it was demonstrated that GBHs exposure, from prenatal period to adulthood, induced endocrine effects and altered reproductive developmental parameters in male and female rats.

Aside from glyphosate, Mason also notes that in 1991 Bayer CropScience introduced a new type of insecticide into the US: imidacloprid, the first member of a group now known as neonicotinoids.

Imidacloprid was licensed for use in Europe in 1994. In July of that year, beekeepers in France noticed something unexpected. Just after the sunflowers had bloomed, a substantial number of their hives would collapse, as the worker bees flew off and never returned, leaving the queen and immature workers to die. The French beekeepers soon believed they knew the reason: a brand new insecticide called Gaucho with imidacloprid as active ingredient was being applied to sunflowers for the first time.

In the 2022 paper Neonicotinoid insecticides found in children treated for leukaemias and lymphomas (Environmental Health), the authors stated that multiple neonicotinoids were found in children’s cerebrospinal fluid (CSF), plasma and urine. As the most widely used class of insecticides worldwide, they are ubiquitously found in the environment, wildlife and foods. The data revealed multiple neonicotinoids and/or their metabolites in children’s CSF, plasma and urine.

Bottom line

If the ‘Monsanto Papers’ told us anything, it is that a corporation’s top priority is the bottom line (at all costs, by all means necessary) and not public health. A CEO’s obligation is to maximise profit, capture markets and – ideally – regulatory and policy-making bodies as well.

Corporations must also secure viable year-on-year growth which often means expanding into hitherto untapped markets. Indeed, in the previously mentioned paper ‘Growing Agrichemical Ubiquity’, the authors note that while countries like the US are still reporting higher pesticide use, most of this growth is taking place in the Global South:

For example, pesticide use in California grew 10% from 2005 to 2015, while use by Bolivian farmers, though starting from a low base, increased 300% in the same period. Pesticide use is growing steeply in countries as diverse as China, Mali, South Africa, Nepal, Laos, Ghana, Argentina, Brazil and Bangladesh. Most countries with high levels of growth have weak regulatory enforcement, environmental monitoring and health surveillance infrastructure.”

And much of this growth is driven by increased demand for herbicides:

India saw a 250% increase since 2005 (Das Gupta et al. 2017) while herbicide use jumped by 2500% in China (Huang, Wang, and Xiao 2017) and 2000% in Ethiopia (Tamru et al. 2017). The introduction of glyphosate-tolerant soybean, maize, and cotton seeds in the US, Brazil, and Argentina is clearly driving much of the demand, but herbicide use is also expanding dramatically in countries that have not approved nor adopted such crops and where smallholder farming is still dominant.”

In response to the increasing use of GBHs in India, the influential Swadeshi Jagaran Manch recently demanded a complete ban on the use of glyphosate in the country. A petition with more than 201,000 signatories favouring a complete ban on glyphosate was submitted to the minister for agriculture.

The minister was also informed that the herbicide is blatantly being used for illegally grown genetically engineered herbicide tolerant (HT) cotton. He was told that “miscreant seed companies” are trying to illegally spread HT Bt cotton on hundreds of thousands of acres of land to promote the use of glyphosate.

In a 2017 paper, academics Glenn Stone and Andrew Flachs describe how cotton farmers in India have been encouraged to change their ploughing practices, leading to more weeds. The outcome in terms of yields (or farmer profit) is arguably no better but the change (conveniently) coincided with the appearance of an increasing supply of these illegal HT cotton seeds. Farmers are being pushed onto herbicide-intensive treadmills.

Industry figures like Niels Bjerre claim pesticide use is necessary in ‘modern agriculture’. But this is not the case: there is now sufficient evidence to suggest otherwise. It is simply not necessary to have our bodies contaminated with toxic agrochemicals, regardless of how much the industry tries to reassure us that they are present in ‘safe’ levels.

There is also the industry-promoted narrative that if you question the need for synthetic pesticides in ‘modern agriculture’, you are somehow ignorant or even ‘anti-science’. This is simply not true. What does ‘modern agriculture’ even mean? It means a system adapted to meet the demands of global agrocapital and its international markets and supply chains.

As writer and academic Benjamin R Cohen recently stated:

“Meeting the needs of modern agriculture – growing produce that can be shipped long distances and hold up in the store and at home for more than a few days – can result in tomatoes that taste like cardboard or strawberries that aren’t as sweet as they used to be. Those are not the needs of modern agriculture. They are the needs of global markets.”

What is really being questioned is a policy paradigm that privileges a certain model of social and economic development and a certain type of agriculture: urbanisation, giant supermarkets, global markets, long supply chains, external proprietary inputs (seeds, synthetic pesticides and fertilisers, machinery, etc), chemical-dependent monocropping, highly processed food and market (corporate) dependency at the expense of rural communities, small independent enterprises and smallholder farms, local markets, short supply chains, on-farm resources, diverse agroecological cropping, nutrient dense diets and food sovereignty.

The effects of this paradigm has had devastating ecological, environmental, social, economic and agronomic consequences on highly productive traditional agrarian systems (see Bhaskar Save’s 2006 open letter to Indian officials).

Furthermore, despite claims to the contrary, it is not as though the chemical-intensive Green Revolution actually led to increased food production per capita in the first place (see Glenn Stone’s paper ‘New Histories of the Green Revolution’).

Nevertheless, predatory agri-food conglomerates have been driving this policy paradigm. In doing so, they have actively consolidated their position throughout the entire global food system while promoting the false narrative that they and their inputs are necessary for feeding the world.

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Bob the bum
Bob the bum
Jan 29, 2022 3:32 AM

The profit motive is the root cause of immeasurable harm, and yet few are ready to denounce it. You don’t have to read Marx to realise that profit is theft, and that harnessing greed is no way to structure an economy.
It is naive to think government regulations could ever adequately protect people or the rest of the planet and its ecosystems from capitalism.

richard
richard
Jan 28, 2022 11:15 PM

yet people are living longer.

J F
J F
Feb 4, 2022 4:00 AM
Reply to  richard

But are we healthier or happier? And is there a rosey future?

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 28, 2022 4:55 PM

Maybe the idiot farmers should read the article.

Farmer: “I think I’ll pour poison (skull and crossbones on the packaging) onto the same soil I grow produce and feed on. Then I’ll feed it to my cattle and sell it to the populace. They’ll be glad I did.”

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 28, 2022 10:45 PM

Big Ag does not grow food to nourish people.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 28, 2022 4:54 PM

The Last American Vagabond has done a fantastic “round-table interview” with Stephanie Seneff (author or Toxic Legacy about glyphosate) and Denis Rancourt. Fascinating discussion, they discuss that “Covid” deaths among younger people seem to correlate with glyphosate toxicity.

https://denisrancourt.ca/videos.php?id=38&name=2022_01_19_tlav_stephanie_seneff_denis_rancourt_roundtable_glyphosate_mrna_amp_spike_proteins_destroying_your_body

mgeo
mgeo
Jan 28, 2022 11:44 AM

Glyphosate just one poison, though a major one. There are tens of thousands of them in food and drink, medicine, cleaning products, clothes, objects we touch, the soil, water, and air. This is apart from radiation from objects, besides UV-C coming through the degraded ozone layer. To quote Neil Whitehead, this is modern human sacrifice for profit.

steadydirt
steadydirt
Jan 28, 2022 2:03 AM

gruesome

Paul Scally
Paul Scally
Jan 27, 2022 10:14 PM

Trudeau days are numbered, he is gone!

New Name
New Name
Jan 27, 2022 9:46 PM

Monsanto was founded by slave owners.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
Jan 27, 2022 8:24 PM

What I find funny is that with all the insults the Criminal Borg expresses on the planet: food supply manipulation, growing food with poison, economic manipulation etc., and agree with all that and then pimp the Coronadoom!

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Jan 27, 2022 8:14 PM

BBC news just said antibiotics cause bowel cancer.The games up.

Phantasm
Phantasm
Jan 28, 2022 10:30 PM
Reply to  Marfanoi

hear is some fun facts the animals cattle industrialized hen chickens pigs cows etc have just a much antibiotics in their feed as humans

Sapas
Sapas
Jan 27, 2022 5:38 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Justin Trudeau just went into self isolation for five days due to potential covid exposure.

https://youtu.be/ymBMLgtlhR4

You can run but you can’t hide!

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jan 27, 2022 6:31 PM
Reply to  Sapas

“The Last Days of Nazi Boy.”
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“Hunkering Down in the Bunker.”

Annie
Annie
Jan 27, 2022 6:48 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

👍

Hele
Hele
Jan 27, 2022 10:48 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

He is insane.As is Kaiser Schwab -who says in a 2017 interview-“we have penetrated governments:Trudeau,Macron,Putin! ‘And a few others are from our young global leaders.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jan 28, 2022 12:21 AM
Reply to  Hele

“On a lighter note.”
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Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 28, 2022 5:01 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

The uniform suits him!

Jason
Jason
Jan 28, 2022 8:38 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

Sounds like a scam and corruption to me!

Paul _too
Paul _too
Jan 28, 2022 7:24 PM
Reply to  Jason

Which part?

entitled2
entitled2
Jan 27, 2022 4:02 PM

There is also the industry-promoted narrative that if you question the need for synthetic pesticides in ‘modern agriculture’, you are somehow ignorant or even ‘anti-science’. This is simply not true. 

This also apply s to the other safe and effective inventions they peddle.

Thom 9
Thom 9
Jan 27, 2022 2:34 PM

Man-made toxicity is the greatest threat to humans and all other living things on the planet and all of it brought to you by these greed sick elites and their corporations of compliance.

Ian
Ian
Jan 27, 2022 5:16 PM
Reply to  Thom 9

Yeah, and then they blame the diseases caused by the toxins on “viruses” and vaccinate us against them, adding poison to the poison. (There is a very good correlation between polio “epidemics” and wide-spread use of DDT, for example.) We are so trusting in “The Science”, and the regulatory bodies, that most people would dismiss what I’ve said as unhinged conspiracy theory. That is probably what Red Riding Hood’s grandmother would have said about The Wolf, had you told her, and we know how that story ended!

mgeo
mgeo
Jan 28, 2022 9:21 AM
Reply to  Ian

We don’t necessarily trust science or the capital that has bought it up. Some of us trust the subverted government. With the help of subverted legislators, this government thwarts others who want to protest or prosecute it.

Chemical Dependency
Chemical Dependency
Jan 27, 2022 2:03 PM

Microorganisms are a bases of all life.
Short-sighted attempts at distinctions between “good” and “bad” microorganisms is a failed science.
Life is dependent upon the constant interactions and relationships between “good” and “bad” microorganisms.
The roots of plants are virtual battle zones, places where various species of microorganisms continually battle for space, and compete for resources, often producing numerous beneficial compounds in the process (like natural vitamins, natural antibiotics, secondary metabolites, natural enzymes, amino acids, etc.).

These various compounds are essential for natural health.
They exist in plants.
Insects and animals take-up those beneficial natural compounds as they eat those plants.
Humans take-up those beneficial natural compounds as they eat those plants, and eat the animals that ate those plants.
Resulting in a healthy food chain.
You are not only what you eat, but also what you eat, ate.
True natural health literally starts from the ground up.

Glyphosate interferes with the shikimate pathway, a process that occurs in plants & microorganisms.
the shikimate pathway is a seven-step metabolic pathway used by bacteria, archaea, fungi, algae, some protozoans, and plants for the biosynthesis of folates and aromatic amino acids (tryptophan, phenylalanine, and tyrosine).
Glyphosate inhibits a plant enzyme involved in the synthesis of three aromatic amino acids: tyrosine, tryptophan, and phenylalanine (which are produced via that shikimate pathway).

Thus Glyphosate interferes with natural processes that are necessary for beneficial natural health.

And yet so many are left scratching their heads wondering why Glyphosate is implicated in so many ailments.

Where the narrative often exists that Glyphosate is causing these ailments, deeper truth is that Glyphosate is interfering with the microorganisms and processes that work to prevent those ailments in the first place.

But, the CARTEL of largest Big Asset Management firms & Big Banks that now exist as the largest owners of the largest “competing” corporations, in most every single industry globally, can’t make more money if they don’t continue creating more problems.
Profit by creating massive problems.
Profit more by selling “solutions” to those problems.
Profit even more by selling other “solutions” to the problems those first “solutions” created.

les online
les online
Jan 27, 2022 9:59 PM

So what’s your take on hydroponically grown foods ? Without the soil bugs there might be some nutritional drawbacks to hydroponically groan foods ?

Martha
Martha
Jan 28, 2022 12:00 AM
Reply to  les online

I read recently that hydroponically grown tomatoes do not contain lycopene, which is said to be important in prostate health.

steadydirt
steadydirt
Jan 28, 2022 2:41 AM

beautiful note

mgeo
mgeo
Jan 28, 2022 9:30 AM

Glyphosate was forst sold as an atibiotic and then a chelating agent. Apart from damaging the human gut microbiome, it causes the loss of some minerals.

Edward Paradise
Edward Paradise
Jan 27, 2022 1:55 PM

Is it possible to send a personal check. If so, what is the address?

Hele
Hele
Jan 27, 2022 10:50 PM

Freedom convoy gofundme -it’s up to a remarkable 6 million-though the funds are frozen-while they round up the usual suspects.

steadydirt
steadydirt
Jan 28, 2022 2:42 AM
Reply to  Hele

go-f-me has nuked thefund raiser

Edwige
Edwige
Jan 27, 2022 1:16 PM

Tele-medicine moves a step closer:
https://dumptheguardian.com/technology/2022/jan/26/robot-successfully-performs-keyhole-surgery-on-pigs-without-human-help

The use of pigs isn’t coincidental – we’re swine to them.

Yesterday the Fraud had an utterly insane article about “peace talks with animals” (even they seem to have realised it was lunacy and removed it from the main website page quickly). One of the main crimes it levelled against humanity was animal experimentation – and yet here they are the day after loving it for assisting progress. The article also mentioned Pasteur as a hero – yet if anyone has had the misfortune to watch footage of Pasteur’s utterly bogus rabies’ experiments on rabbits they’ll know wnat a bastard he was.

The point isn’t some trite bleating about “hypocrisy”. The articles are entirely consistent in pushing the underlying WEF agenda. Robots take over work and fewer people are needed; humanity is psy-opped into hating itself and fewer people are the result. .

Reachable Spike
Reachable Spike
Jan 27, 2022 6:18 PM
Reply to  Edwige

That “robot” is essentially a sewing machine for surgeons. A sewing machine is a useful tool for tailors because it speeds up and increases the consistency of stitching, and this machine performs a similar function in surgery. It still requires a human to mark up the tissue prior to the operation and to supervise.

https://bioe.umd.edu/news/story/smart-tissue-autonomous-robot-raises-the-bar-on-surgery-precision

Being afraid of automation is a distraction. Automation has always been born out of necessity. There’s been an ongoing explosion in the amount of work that needs to be done that far outpaces the explosion in the number of people present to do the work.

New Name
New Name
Jan 27, 2022 9:43 PM

Automation and mechanization increase unemployment, energy usage and environmental damage.

mgeo
mgeo
Jan 28, 2022 9:33 AM

The crux is not speed or jobs available. It is profit.

gordan
gordan
Jan 27, 2022 12:55 PM

slowly doctor nhs death cult long profit centre farma pharma

synergy working in harmony kalergi just for you citizen
vaccines agro chemi culls
cloud seeding atmos greying sky roach kill bug spray
5g phased array 24 and 7 low level radiation
heavy metals toxins in your guts

silent quiet wars on the goyim

a farm with you as cattle

each country a corporation owned by bankster
each country experiments variations in herding

testing testing testing
broad sword calling danny boy come in over

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Jan 27, 2022 8:42 PM
Reply to  gordan

See it happening everyday man.

JWK
JWK
Jan 27, 2022 12:30 PM

Meanwhile, the ecological efforts are all directed at “climate change”. I refuse to believe that this is an accident or coincidence. That the “climate change” narrative is nothing more nor less than a cover for the chemical poisoning of the planet. How much money does DuPont and Bayer/Monsanto throw at “climate change” that MIGHT happen in a few decades, while the chemical poisoning goes on unabated, by the likes of Bill Gates et al? Largely unregulated.

Tom Welsh
Tom Welsh
Jan 27, 2022 12:29 PM

Thanks for this excellent summary of the harms caused by glyphosate and other proprietary chemicals.

The facts about cataract surgery are particularly surprising and worrying.

Martha
Martha
Jan 28, 2022 12:05 AM
Reply to  Tom Welsh

If you want to know more, read the Monsanto Papers, and Toxic Legacy, both brilliant and disturbing books. It’s amoral that glyphosate is allowed at all, ever, anywhere. Same for neonics.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 27, 2022 11:13 AM

Rip out the roses and pitch the pansies. Replace em with potatoes, parsley, beans and tomatoes.
Dig up the lawn, plant herbs in pots and/or join a community garden.
Bypass the purveyors of poison.

les online
les online
Jan 27, 2022 10:16 PM
Reply to  Johnny

In my Johnny Appleseed guise i promote the idea that local councils should plant fruit trees alongside streets instead on the non-fruit trees they plant. I know orchardists, fruiterers, and supermarkets will resist, but it’s a beginning to the ending of the enclosure of Mother Nature’s bounty by the profiteering mentality…

And We will re-discover the taste of fruits that werent picked near-ripe, kept in cool rooms, artificially ripened before put out for sale…Fruits that didnt have their full nutritional development disrupted…Down with cardboard tasting tomatoes and apples !!! Down with pasty-tasting bananas and marbles claiming to be grapes ”

signed: The Food Liberation Front…

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 28, 2022 9:00 AM
Reply to  les online

1️⃣0️⃣0️⃣🆙 Les.
I’m reminded of Bill Mollison, one of the creators of the permaculture design system.
He regarded lawns as a ‘green cancer’ and whenever he got a chance he would plant his used apple cores in them.

les online
les online
Jan 28, 2022 9:29 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Well, even a creative mind like Bill Mollison is not 100% agreeable. I like lawns. I like walking barefooted on mown green grass, as i do walking barefooted on beach sand. Both = grounding. I’m not a tennis enthuser but tennis played on a lawn, not the hi-tech fabricated, pretty coloured stuff played on today, sounds ok. And there’s lawn bowls. Bill sounds like he dont like sport, would bury his apple cores in footy ovals… I like lawns, they have their place, and we need space(s). I dont like the effort required for their upkeep. We had a nanny goat do that when i was a kid…

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 29, 2022 2:15 AM
Reply to  les online

Fair enough Les.
Gotta admit, laying on the lawn with my dog, or staring up at the stars is a good feeling.

Edwige
Edwige
Jan 27, 2022 10:15 AM

A reminder that when glyphosate got into the courts it was found resoundingly guilty:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/us-world/us/article/Court-upholds-25-2-million-in-damages-in-Roundup-16178270.php

Why hasn’t there been a tidal wave of cases since?

I mean, it isn’t like Monsanto also invented Agent Orange and passed that off as safe for years.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jan 27, 2022 10:41 AM
Reply to  Edwige

all is rona now!

TFS
TFS
Jan 27, 2022 5:55 PM
Reply to  Edwige

I think the pre-cursor to Agent Orange was Agent Purple and was even more dangerous.

Found that one out, when looking at Colin Powells background in and around Vietnam.