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Ukraine: A new battle in the old war of the “New Normal”

Michael Lesher

In one sense, I don’t have much to say about the newest chapter in the eight-year-old American war against the people of Ukraine – nothing that you can’t learn from an array of sources as politically diverse as George Galloway and Peter HitchensTariq Ali and John Mearsheimer.

After all, the facts really aren’t complicated. Russia’s recent invasion, far from being “unprovoked” (as shamelessly claimed in mainstream media), follows eight years of the US-backed Ukrainian regime’s deadly shelling of ethnic Russians near the border of Russia itself, in fighting that has killed more than 13,000 civilians in territory Vladimir Putin’s administration pledged to protect long ago.

And that carnage had a fairly obvious cause, too: it was precipitated by the US-supported coup that toppled Ukraine’s elected government in 2014, ostensibly because of human rights abuses but more fundamentally because that government had refused to convert the former Soviet republic into a vassal state of NATO.

The machinations resulting in what is now called the “Maidan coup” destroyed Ukraine’s neutrality between Russia and the West, unleashing in its stead a violent and bigotednationalist movement for which the inhabitants of the Don River basin, mostly ethnic Russians, have been paying with their lives ever since.

That much should be clear to all unbiased readers – like the fact that NATO’s relentless march toward the Russian border (in direct violation of U.S. officials’ promise to Russian leadership as far back as 1990) is the real story of “aggression” behind the manufactured outrage over the Russian “attack” on Ukraine.

But I want to emphasize a different point: that the war hysteria seething in the mainstream press isn’t just about demonizing Vladimir Putin or about dragging the West into another Cold War.

I think we need to focus on its less obvious purpose.

In a very real sense, this propaganda campaign is an extension of the lockdowns imposed on the populations of the Western “democracies” (I add the quotation marks mournfully but advisedly) in early 2020 – and of the attacks on the freedoms of their citizens for which COVID-19 is no longer as sturdy a pretext as it seemed to be two years ago. For most of us, that is really its primary significance.

In other words, the agenda underlying the new Cold War – and mind you, it’s already a pretty hot “cold war” when Atlantic Magazine, formerly a storehouse of liberal antiwar pieties, is chiding the US for not being sufficiently “bloody and brutal” in Ukraine – is not aimed at Russia (despite the US-led economic warfare that mainly targets blameless Russian citizens). It’s not even aimed at Ukraine (notwithstanding obvious US efforts to exacerbate the conflict by flooding the country with weapons).

The real target is us. And whatever news we see from Ukraine in the mainstream press – now, tomorrow, a month from now, whenever – that’s one point we mustn’t forget.

Remember the rapid erosion of free speech throughout the West as the COVID coup started to intensify? Well, that was just a foretaste of the censorship we can expect to see on social media as our opinion-makers shift to a Cold War footing. Remember the marginalization of news sources whose information about SARS-CoV-2 didn’t square with the Official Message?

The senseless banning of RT in many “free” countries since Russia’s invasion suggests how that trend will proceed. Remember the way accurate public comment about Anthony Fauci or Bill Gates became an act of sedition as of 2020?

Today, arbitrary government crackdowns (no warning, no trial, no proof of illegal acts) are already getting worse; war hysteria will further aggravate them.

As for the economy, Reuters is reporting “wild swings in the prices of oil, metals and other raw materials” – surely a harbinger of worse things to come.

In fact, rising consumer prices, shortages, fiscal contraction, increased unemployment – all products of lockdowns – are already showing signs of spiraling out of control as the super-rich fatten off war profiteering and the rest of us are lectured about the “sacrifices” expected of us in the fight against the Russian Beelzebub.

If anyone denies that these things represent the actual goals of the warmongering over Ukraine, I have one question for him: can you please suggest a more persuasive explanation for what otherwise resembles a case of collective insanity among the war promoters?

Consider (just for instance) the folks at Forward – the ethnic periodical of choice for a broadly-defined liberal Jewish-American intelligentsia. Let me begin with a fact I know from personal experience: it’s a rare American Jew of Eastern European descent who isn’t well aware of Ukraine’s history of unusually violent anti-Semitism. As recently as 2013, the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum published a historical essay describing the anti-Jewish Ukrainian riots that erupted as German troops invaded the Soviet Union in 1941:

The pogroms broke out with extreme violence. Perpetrators used household or agricultural tools such as bats, axes, sickles, and sticks with razor blades to kill at random any Jew they encountered…. [In some places] women, elderly people, and even children were attacked. The violence took place…even before the arrival of the German troops… The acts of violence and murder were associated with the looting of the Jews’ property, the burning of synagogues, and the widespread abuse of Jewish women.

In fact, “[b]efore the advent of Hitler,” continues another historical account, “the greatest mass murder of Jews occurred in the Ukraine, in the course of the Civil War [between 1918 and 1920].”

And virtually every Jew I know remembers that the Nazi massacre of some 30,000 Jews at Babi Yar (also called Babyn Yar) would scarcely have been possible without the support of local Ukrainians. Even the government of newly-independent Ukraine admitted as much in 1991.

But you’d never know any of this from Forward’s war propaganda.

Its top editor, Jodi Rudoren – who, as Jerusalem bureau chief for the New York Times, consistently minimized the crimes of Israel’s occupation of Palestine – can hardly find words harsh enough for Russia’s behavior in Ukraine: after launching an “unprovoked invasion,” she fumed recently, Vladimir Putin has “shut down all independent journalism” and even “threaten[ed] to deploy the ultimate weapon in what could only lead to an apocalyptic World War III.”

On the other hand, Rudoren’s heart melted over “Ukrainian civilians in sweatpants and wool hats” who “take up arms [and] make homemade bombs out of old beer bottles.”

Had they been Palestinians resisting yet another Israeli invasion, these militants would have been “terrorists” brandishing “Molotov cocktails.”

Why is Rudoren celebrating the members of anti-Semitic militias like Ukraine’s neo-Nazi Azov Battalion for doing the same thing? Has she gone nuts? Or mightn’t there be another reason for the turnaround?

And it’s not just Rudoren: everybody at Forward is suddenly lovesick for Ukraine.

“A handsome and superb communicator…who has entered the hearts of American Jews…the Jewish relative you have never met who throws his arms around you in the airport,” the magazine’s Rob Eshman wrote schoolgirlishly about Volodymyr Zelensky, Ukraine’s authoritarian actor-president, in early March.

The truth (as Alexander Rubinstein and Max Blumenthal reported for GrayZone) is that Zelensky has not only “downplayed his [Jewish] heritage in the past” but has built an “increasingly close relationship” with “the neo-Nazi forces invested with key military and political posts by the Ukrainian state.”

Shouldn’t such facts matter to Jewish public intellectuals? Or are their lips sealed by the dictates of the powers that be?

In the winds of war fever, other Jewish institutions have put about just as nimbly as Forward. Normally, any hint of a comparison between some contemporary evil and the crimes of Nazi Germany is the surest way to get yourself denounced by every Jewish opinion-setter from the New York Jewish Week to B’nai B’rith’s Anti-Defamation League.

And yet, no sooner had Russian troops opened fire on Ukrainian targets than Rabbi Yoshi Zweiback publicly equated Putin’s actions with the way “Hitler began his occupation of Czechoslovakia” in 1938.

Did the Anti-Defamation League – which condemned as “deeply offensive” Robert F. Kennedy Jr’s passing reference to Anne Frank in a critique of vaccine passports two months ago – erupt with outrage at this much starker heresy?

On the contrary: the ADL’s latest fulminations include an attack on the “anti-Semitic” Palestinian novelist Susan Abulhawa, who – in a crowning irony – seems to have offended Jewish leadership by objecting to mass-media comparisons of Russia’s invasion with a “Nazi-style blitzkrieg.”

Even the infamous Bogdan Chmielnicki, who in 1648 led a Ukrainian revolt that resulted in the murders of tens of thousands of Jews, is suddenly being sanitized in Jewish circles – presumably because of his popularity among Ukrainian nationalists.

Former Israeli official Natan Sharansky, who grew up in Crimea, actually waxed nostalgic in a recent interview about a huge monument his home town erected to Chmielnicki during his boyhood.

Will wonders never cease?

Four years ago, according to news reports, Israel’s ambassador to Ukraine publicly “described that country’s nationalist heroes as ‘historically a horror for the Jews.’” But both Sharansky and his (Jewish) interviewer managed to describe the old pogromist without once mentioning his slaughter of Jews. Orwell himself might have been flustered.

I’m focusing on Jewish sources here because, given Ukraine’s history of anti-Semitism and its recent elevation of neo-Nazis to political prominence, public Jewish support is of obvious importance to Western war propaganda built on the dyad “Ukraine good, Russia bad.”

And – let me stress it again – it is simply impossible to believe that the authors of these tributes to good old Ukraine can credit their own arguments. They are not imbeciles; they know the same facts about Ukraine that I know. Their sudden about-face on everything related to Ukraine’s history cannot be explained by mere political sympathy, even assuming they’ve been genuinely won over by the claims of war propaganda, which – for reasons I’ve already suggested – would make them a lot dumber than I think they are.

No, there’s got to be another reason. And for anyone paying attention, the most obvious reason is also the most plausible.

After all, these pundits know their jobs: they are showmen, sleight-of-hand artists whose well-remunerated task for years now has been to distract hoi polloi while their pockets are picked and their rights are shredded. It’s a game the propagandists honed to perfection as they touted one fiction after another about the “killer virus” while ignoring the greatest civil rights crisis in modern history. Now the gloss on the COVID story is starting to fade. What better way to carry on the work of distraction than with war hysteria?

I’m certainly not the first person to think of war propaganda in such terms.

“War,” James Madison cautioned more than two centuries ago, is “the true nurse of executive aggrandizement.”

Madison went so far as to argue that “no nation could reserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare,” because an administration at war has access to powers the public will not cede to it in peacetime. Two years ago, our ruling class began whittling away our freedoms under the pretext of “health regulation.” War propaganda is the perfect tonic to revive, and even to intensify, that democracy-busting campaign.

In fact, if you peruse the factoids carefully, you can sometimes spot the real motives peeking out through the seams.

One of CNN’s tame “experts,” for instance, recently told the network that “endemicity [of SARS-CoV-2] is going to be the case. Eradication is not possible.”

Now, as any scientist who dared to say “eradication is not possible” two years ago was courting professional suicide (think Mike Yeadon or Knut Wittkowski), this was a remarkable admission indeed.

But it came together with some ghoulish cheerleading for peddling new, scantily-tested “vaccines” to very young children – including “kids ages 4 and under” – and a suggestion that, to enforce the latter goal, schools should “require that kids get vaccinated against Covid-19 before they return to class in the fall,” although CNN did acknowledge that “the politics of it might be tricky.”

In other words: resistance to COVID dogma is starting to solidify; many people aren’t quite willing to let the government inject mystery drugs into their babies’ veins.

That’s bad news for Big Pharma bootlickers and anti-democracy media flacks. What’s a propagandist to do? Well, how about demonizing dissenters by labeling them “apologists” for the new Russian menace?

There are other ominous signs.

As I write this, facial recognition software is being tested in Ukraine. The justification rumored in the press – that identifying faces with data gleaned from Russian social media is meant to weed out “Russian operatives” trying to sneak through Ukrainian “checkpoints” – is plainly implausible.

But I’ll bet you dollars to doughnuts that Clearview AI (the maker of this spyware) will be claiming its product has been “battlefield tested” when it brings it to market for the real purpose of monitoring dissidents in the near future.

(Note, too, that the test began just weeks after officials of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention admitted they’ve been suppressing data about the efficacy of COVID-19 “vaccines” – “because [the figures] might be misinterpreted as the vaccines being ineffective.”

Got that?

The propagandists know they are losing control of the COVID narrative; the facts are against them; ergo, governments must prepare for harsher crackdowns on dissenters, and it’s a good time to try out a powerful new surveillance tool.)

But perhaps the most telling indication that the hysteria over Ukraine is meant to extend the COVID coup is the propagandists’ excessive insistence that there is no connection – absolutely, positively, none – between the two.

To wit: on March 12, the Daily Beast’s Mark Hay – a venomous COVID apologist who has dismissed accurate summaries of vaccine-related “adverse events” as “batshit” – reached a new low by condemning “COVID-19 conspiracy circles” for “applaud[ing] Russia’s naked aggression.”

It was bad enough, Hay wrote, that these subversive types kept “railing against masks and mandates”; now, in their zeal to defy “all conventional science,” they were turning “anti-Western and pro-authoritarian” at the very moment their country needed them to battle the Russians.

Now, you might say this rally-round-the-flag posturing only proved that Hay had noticed the obvious – that some critics of arbitrary confinement and human medical experimentation recognized a connection between war fever and assaults on personal freedom. (As did James Madison, the principal author of the US constitution – just in case anyone was keeping score.)

But there was nothing ho-hum about Hay’s imprecations against the “conspiracy theorists” who dared to suggest that different pretexts (COVID-19 hysteria, war propaganda) might serve as rationalizations for a continuing assault on civil rights.

Anyone even hinting at that drew down Hay’s blackest anathemas: such critics were “try[ing] to graft their increasingly wild and all-encompassing conspiracies onto every major event” – that is, the Ukraine conflict – “functionally spitting in the faces of the victims of crises” as they continued to wage “serious harassment campaigns against…people trying to solve genuine health crises.”

Good heavens – they had even attacked “the entire fucking city of Ottawa”!

And the traitors were narcissists, too. Did they really think their exposure of the facts behind the media’s “deadly virus” nonsense might have some relevance to a new assault on the Bill of Rights (in the name of fighting the Russian hordes)? If so, they must suffer from delusions of grandeur: Hay quoted a sneering “antivax movement watcher” who explained that the critics’ real motivation was the belief that “everything has to be about them.”

Summing up his loathing for these egomaniacal bastards, Hay warned that their “intense selfishness” was about to unleash “a new brand of unrelenting hell for the rest of the world.”

Now, there’s a lot of illogic to untangle in all that invective. Recognizing the falsity of the American government’s account of the war in Ukraine isn’t the same thing as endorsing every action of Vladimir Putin. Nor is it irrational to notice that different cover stories can serve for the same sorts of political abuses.

But why did Hay insist that critics of vaccine mandates must be “selfish,” too – that they must be (to quote yet another “expert”) “so fixated on their anti-vaccine politics that they cannot recognize the suffering of millions of people in Ukraine”?

That slander is just silly. It falls into the obvious fallacy of conflating the argument with its author: the man who says that X is happening because of Y is not claiming that he himself is the cause of X by virtue of having made the argument; and he is certainly not claiming that X is trivial, even if he believes the nexus between X and Y to be of great importance.

In plain terms, Hay’s accusation is a calumny: it stigmatizes principled dissent as “harassment” (or worse) motivated by pure ego, it cynically tries to deflect fact-based argument with ad hominem smears, and it libels the defenders of the Nuremberg Code as heartless, self-obsessed militarists without even attempting to address their concerns. And I cannot believe that Hay himself didn’t know all this when he published his hit piece.

Why did he stoop to such transparent mendacity?

Because he and his masters are terrified that people may start to question the web of propaganda being spun around them, to notice connections the ruling class would like them to overlook, to challenge the assumptions hurled at them by con men like Hay himself.

And – on this point – I agree with him. Confronted with a pack of lies about Russia and Ukraine while the lies about COVID-19 are still fresh in their memories, many people may indeed start to wonder whether the peddlers of all that fakery have really had the same goals in mind all along. Once members of the public start to make those connections, they may become difficult to control. And that’s why propagandists like Hay are so feverishly determined to stop them.

So the senseless violence the U.S. and its allies have provoked in Ukraine is not really a new war at all. From the perspective of the Western citizenry – for the purposes of people like me and most of my likely readers – it’s only another front in the war for the New Normal, a war that has been waged against us for years and which shows no sign of stopping.

Recognizing that is not to dismiss the genuine suffering caused by the violence, nor does it require us to overlook other reasons for seeking to end the Russia-Ukraine conflict.

But it does warn us against limiting our attention to suffering in a distant place while our own freedoms are under attack. It reminds us that specific pretexts for dismantling democratic government come and go, but that the appetite of the ruling class for increased power is permanent and insatiable.

It cautions us against complacency, reminding us that no one will protect our rights if we ourselves don’t – especially when our press is full of lies and our public intellectuals endorse mass surveillance and war hysteria.

Yes, we are at war.

But it’s a war fought on our own soil and against oppressors much closer to home than a Russian president. Our enemies are human automata who want to strip life of the freedom without which life is meaningless. Our principal weapons are the only ones that work against such enemies: truth, compassion, dignity, determination and love.

The need to fight is urgent.

The time to fight is now.

Michael Lesher is an author, poet and lawyer whose legal work is mostly dedicated to issues connected with domestic abuse and child sexual abuse. His latest nonfiction book is Sexual Abuse, Shonda and Concealment in Orthodox Jewish Communities (McFarland & Co., 2014); his first collection of poetry, Surfaces, was published by The High Window in 2019. A memoir of his discovery of Orthodox Judaism as an adult – Turning Back: The Personal Journey of a “Born-Again” Jew – was published in September 2020 by Lincoln Square Books.

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Nick
Nick
Apr 19, 2022 9:21 AM

Don’t miss the interview with the Brit mercenary captured by Russia

Penelope
Penelope
Apr 19, 2022 7:53 AM

SCRAPS FROM RUSSIAN SITES Radio intercept has revealed that Kiev ordered Azov fighters to kill both the military of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) and foreign mercenaries who decided to surrender to Russian forces in Mariupol. According to the Ukrainian servicemen that have already surrendered, there are up to 400 foreign mercenaries on the territory of Azovstal as part of the Ukrainian group,” Konashenkov said. Most of the foreign mercenaries came from European countries and Canada. Radio conversations on the territory of Mariupol are conducted in six foreign languages, Major General Igor Konashenkov said. All foreign mercenaries would be destroyed if they continue showing resistance, the official added. Russia offered the Ukrainian military men, who were surrounded and completely blocked on the territory of the Azovstal metallurgical plant in Mariupol, to voluntarily lay down their arms and surrender. Russia published the list of Ukrainian dead. The real losses of… Read more »

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Apr 19, 2022 7:58 AM
Reply to  Penelope

I moved this comment to a more relevant location. Try to keep your comments relevant to the article.

Kay
Kay
Apr 15, 2022 2:36 AM

Brilliant piece.
I saw right through the Covid bullshit and I see through the Ukie bullshit too.
The problem now is WHEN WILL THE REST OF THE SHEEP WAKE UP TO THE GIANT CON???

Tristan Zoer
Tristan Zoer
Apr 29, 2022 9:02 AM
Reply to  Kay

How consoling is it to be a hen?

Tristan Zoer
Tristan Zoer
Apr 14, 2022 10:00 PM

It’s all about credibility. And Mr. Lesher loses it with a blatant, easily disprovable lie as early as the second paragraph.
Read on?

Michael H.
Michael H.
Apr 18, 2022 7:52 AM
Reply to  Tristan Zoer

please, would you easily disprove the second paragraph for me. Appreciated.

Tristan Zoer
Tristan Zoer
Apr 29, 2022 8:59 AM
Reply to  Michael H.

Happily. To be short, just this: 13 000 is the number of casualties on both sides, both civilian and military. Estimates point to 9500 military casualties (on both sides) and around 3500 civilians (on both sides). And it’s not a “US-backed Ukrainian regime’s deadly shelling of ethnic Russians”, rather a russia-backed (with military forces) illegal mini-war in a neighbouring sovereign country.

victim
victim
Apr 14, 2022 7:08 PM

Worse than all that I just had my 200 metre superyacht confiscated because a friend of a friend once attended a gathering where Putin briefly appeared.
I hope it doesn’t get sold as scrap for weight to someone who will remain anonymous for security reasons.

Jozef Kolbe
Jozef Kolbe
Apr 13, 2022 9:51 PM

What the Russian state is good at and what it’s not so good at. Why Putin and his advisers were so wrong about Ukrainians and why so many in Off Guardian are convinced something as patently obvious as Russia’s brutal invasion of Ukraine is really a CIA plot. Yuri Bezmenov explained it brilliantly:
https://youtu.be/pOmXiapfCs8
P.S. yes, that was almost 40 years ago, and that was Soviet Russia. But the state and its secret services, be they Tsarist, or Soviet Communist, or Putinite, are essentially always the same. So too, unfortunately, is the West.   

Irresponsible and proud
Irresponsible and proud
Apr 12, 2022 12:12 PM

“But I’ll bet you dollars to doughnuts that Clearview AI (the maker of this spyware) will be claiming its product has been “battlefield tested” when it brings it to market for the real purpose of monitoring dissidents in the near future.”

Just as was the case with the radar…nuclear energy…nylon clothing…wireless communications…the internet.

Kalen
Kalen
Apr 12, 2022 3:14 AM

Example of Donbas militia fulfilling obligations of Geneva Conventions in regard to civilians in combat zone downtown Mariupol namely prompt voluntary evacuation of civilians with their property and belongings, including pets, from combat zone they control into safe environment in this case using APCs to be safe from snipers. If they failed to do so as UkroNazis did, it would constitute war crime.

https://youtu.be/dlNUX47I3o4

Jozef Kolbe
Jozef Kolbe
Apr 11, 2022 4:16 PM

“In one sense, I don’t have much to say about the newest chapter in the eight-year-old American war against the people of Ukraine – nothing that you can’t learn from an array of sources as politically diverse as George Galloway and Peter Hitchens, Tariq Ali and John Mearsheimer. Oh, here we go again, yet another one who has nothing to add to “the eight-year-old American war against the people of Ukraine” narrative since it can already be learned “from an array of sources as politically diverse as” a bunch of talking heads whose only expertise is eloquently in espousing their opinions on any given topic or associating everything with their own ivory tower theory. But did the author actually ask any of the people of Ukraine? Obviously the author didn’t have the time to learn anything form the primary sources, e.g. the 2.4 million Ukrainian refugees (predominantly women and children)… Read more »

mik
mik
Apr 12, 2022 1:51 PM
Reply to  Jozef Kolbe

the eight-year-old American war against the people of Ukraine

By putting this statement under quotation marks you prooved you are clueless.

What is the rest we got from you?
A narrative depicting horrors of war. Just another instantiation of war, another instantiation of horror-porn.

When will people finally get, fucking WAR IS FUCKING HORROR !!!!!! By mf definition.
Dead, refugies, destruction….cool down, you already said……war.

War must be prevented, when it starts then is reason bye bye.

Imagine a day when they called for War and Nobody came

Jozef Kolbe
Jozef Kolbe
Apr 12, 2022 4:36 PM
Reply to  mik

Using vulgar expletives proves that you are overemotional. And yes, no one in their right mind would want war. That’s a no-brainer.

Arguably not even Putin wanted this because it appears that he expected Ukrainian resistance to fold in a matter of days if not hours, I believe the bewildered Russian POWs when said they thought the ‘special operation’ was just another training exercise. But how can you blame anyone other than Putin and his advisors for the decision to invade Ukraine? That’s also a no-brainer.

Clyde
Clyde
Apr 12, 2022 9:56 PM
Reply to  Jozef Kolbe

Clearly the failed Ukrainian CIA puppet wanted war, or the eight-year ethnic cleansing of Donbas would have been stopped long ago. The government of the failed Ukrainian CIA project would not have written an obligation to join NATO into an ammended Ukrainian constitution in 2019, and the third-rate comedian-turned-NATO-propaganda-device wouldn’t have been publicly declaring his desire for the failed Ukrainian CIA project to obtain nuclear weapons in the weeks leading up to the Russian operation.
I am not sure what you are trying to imply with your statement about Ukrainians being quick learners. They withdrew into the cities and bombarded the Russians with heavy weapons, in the same manner that they bombarded the civilian population in Donbas for eight years.
Here’s a great example of the intuitive martial brilliance to which you seem to be alluding:
https://southfront.org/first-person-video-of-tank-firing-at-group-of-ukrainian-soldiers-at-close-range-21/

Jozef Kolbe
Jozef Kolbe
Apr 13, 2022 3:47 PM
Reply to  Clyde

I repeat, no one in their right mind would ever want to start a war – save perhaps a chicken-hawk in front of a laptop in a bunker somewhere in another country. But this is Ukraine, not Iraq 2003. This is most definitely Putin and Russia’s sphere of interest, that’s what they’ve always claimed. Up until 24 Feb 2022 no one knew how the Ukrainians would respond – and no one knew how the Russian army would perform. Now we do. The original plan was obviously a full-scale invasion of the whole of Ukraine, but it was primarily focused on Ukrainian government in Kyiv, on President Zelensky. It was a regime change exercise – and it failed. Why did it fail? Because the Ukrainians resisted, and how they have resisted will go down in history books. So far they claim to have killed over 10,000 of the enemy, and even… Read more »

Jeff A
Jeff A
Apr 24, 2022 1:04 PM
Reply to  Jozef Kolbe

since you’re so keen on getting even with Putin and hating on Russians, you’ll really hate them when this ends up Poland and all the other places America has NATO bases. This time you’ll see why the Pentagon wants to avoid any sort of conflict with Russia. Warsaw will end up looking like Berlin in May 1945, on day one.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Apr 13, 2022 9:04 PM
Reply to  Jozef Kolbe

NJ attorney wow steps back in amazement. How far is the horizon from NY Harbour, doubt by then even the seagulls were listening.

Antonym
Antonym
Apr 11, 2022 7:56 AM

“New normal”: even Putin over estimated the strength of the conventional Russian forces plus Ukrainian nationalism? Most Canadians also speak American, but don’t want to join Big Brother A.
Speaking of which the full scale spectrum of illegality and dirty tricks from the Anglosphere is at display, a sign of weakness, not strength.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Apr 13, 2022 4:16 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Good point about Americans speaking American, it takes a bit of adjustment.lol!

Kalen
Kalen
Apr 11, 2022 12:42 AM

Ukraine a civilized nation against Barbaric Russia.

from South Front:

https://southfront.org/the-propaganda-machine-from-isis-to-ukraine-always-the-same-story/

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 11, 2022 6:32 AM
Reply to  Kalen

Apart from ISIS, the Russian FM said on 2022-03-03 that the recruitment of mercenaries was going on in Kosovo, Albania, and Bosnia Herzegovina.

Clyde
Clyde
Apr 12, 2022 9:58 PM
Reply to  mgeo

The Anglo/US banker empire hs made good use of “moslem” proxies. Zelensky’s advisor said that the model to be emulated in former soviet territories is ISIS.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Apr 10, 2022 3:35 PM

All pretentious foreplay prior to the ultimate act of suicide via mental autoerotic masturbation… Putrid political pundits use terms such as “sanctions” and “protracted war” as if applying tiny imaginary whips… Other prodigious parasites wear masks and pour copious sands of time onto the curious ointment… Good luck with that…

Woowoo
Woowoo
Apr 10, 2022 7:37 PM

+1

COVIDsteria eBook
COVIDsteria eBook
Apr 10, 2022 3:23 PM

LET ME KNOW IF I MISSED HEARING ANY OTHER UKRAINE PROPAGANDA  😉  😉 
Tales From the Great Reset: Inside a Ukraine Propaganda Brainstorming Session
Ukrainian propaganda needs a Great Reset. I secretly sat in on a Ukrainian propaganda brainstorming session with Goebbelsky’s new team as they try to come up with new ideas for starting World War III! – https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/great-reset-tales-ukraine-propaganda

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Krishna
Krishna
Apr 10, 2022 8:19 PM

This has been debunked already, its a drop of water moving on the windscreen of the vehicle, and can clearly be seen.

https://youtu.be/8NrUwejROYQ

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
Apr 10, 2022 2:43 PM

regime change if you’re too friendly with the Russians and Chinese? the Pakistani prime minister has been removed.

interesting to see how malleable the new prime minister will be!!

BOSTONIAN
BOSTONIAN
Apr 10, 2022 2:38 PM

Let’s not forget that in 1812, barely two decades after his apparent anti-war comments, President James Madison asked for a declaration of war against the superpower of the day, Great Britain. Today that disastrous folly is lionized as the second War of Independence but it was in fact the young US’s second false flag war. The first was the undeclared naval war with the world’s other great power, France, in 1798-99. The War of 1812’s nominal battle cry was “free trade and sailors’ rights” but in fact it was an attempted land grab devised by the slaveholder lobby headed by Madison, hoping to expand the system while Britain was bogged down in her two-decade war with France. The failure of American arms is reflected in the fact that Britain offered to suspend hostilities only on the US acceptance of a return to the pre-war status quo.   And let us… Read more »

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
Apr 10, 2022 2:31 PM

one big supermarket in sydney has no table salt for over a week, as if there isn’t enough access to the sea in australia.

NickM
NickM
Apr 10, 2022 12:19 PM

“an array of sources as politically diverse as George Galloway and Peter HitchensTariq Ali and John Mearsheimer.”

And Scott Ritter, one of the Righteous Yankees who redeem the honour of their country:

https://youtu.be/klPYYqhqO74?t=6

MLS
MLS
Apr 10, 2022 7:40 PM
Reply to  NickM

Oh come on. How many of them are shamelessly gatekeeping over covid?

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Apr 13, 2022 9:08 PM
Reply to  NickM

Many thanks for the Ritter link. He’s a powerful communicator.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Apr 10, 2022 12:14 PM

Here’s a piece from Counterpunch, an erstwhile American publication that reads as follows. First sentence.

Photograph Source: WORT News – CC BY 2.0 by Richard Falk

”There is no doubt that atrocities have been committed in Ukraine, seemingly by Russian attacking forces, and in a perfect world those who so acted would be held responsible.”

Please note that Russian forces have been ”seemingly’ responsible. Well that is Mr Falks opinion. However it is not necessarily a matter of fact. It would seem that facts don’t matter since the above gentlemen just relies on beliefs.

I finished reading at this point because it is so typical of the left-of-centre belief systems. Anyone can have an opinion, even well-heeled, and established professors – but that doesn’t give them the right to mouth off with second-hand trivia. It amazing how far the orthodox left has declined in the last 15 years or so.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 10, 2022 12:33 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

It’s amazing how fast the orthodox left declined as soon as covid emerged. Indeed “declined” doesn’t fit. They vanished like a mirage. Did I say “like”?

Thom Sheaffer
Thom Sheaffer
Apr 10, 2022 11:49 AM

“Our enemies are human automata who want to strip life of the freedom without which life is meaningless.” Interesting essay. Thought there would be an answer. But the big question is still unanswered? Who is behind all this? Who is paying these reporters to report these lies? Where are the receipts and payslips? James Dellingpole asked Anna Brees who in the newsrooms is ordering reporters to report these lies and she didn’t have a good answer except for some editors or something. How often must I hear “I don’t know,” from “our” experts. I hear it a lot! I used to think that with traditional news services going broke due to the ubiquitous gratis news on the internet, the CIA was now funding the old news, keeping their lights on with the obvious caveat. But my thinking falls flat with the absence of proof. Our best argument seems to be… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Apr 10, 2022 5:06 PM
Reply to  Thom Sheaffer

Your argument must trail a caveat on its rump. Said caveat being that not everyone has to be told or ordered or made to lie.

In any organization, newcomers pretty quickly discern the unstated rules – the “ropes,” upon which they “dance” as did Gulliver’s Lilliputians. Anyone who has ever worked for any bureaucracy – government especially – knows this truth forward and backward.

Researcher
Researcher
Apr 10, 2022 5:09 PM
Reply to  Thom Sheaffer

Who owns the “media“? It’s one cartel. The same cartel that own and control everything. There’s no need to bribe anyone. The lies are baked into the cake.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Apr 10, 2022 10:57 AM

Is there going to be a “military coup” in France? By this I mean that the military are going to step in to stop the election being stolen for Macron. Indications in support of this theory include: A) Previous threats by the military: https://www.eutimes.net/2021/05/100000-french-sign-petition-urging-military-coup-against-macron 100,000 French sign Petition Urging Military Coup Against Macron May 11th, 2021 A group of active French military personnel has published a new open letter to the country’s president Emmanuel Macron, warning him of a “civil war” brewing in the country after all the “concessions” he’s made to Islamism. The letter, published in the conservative Valeurs Actuelles magazine late on Sunday, strikes a similar tone to the message published by the same outlet last month. Unlike the previous one, which was signed by 25 retired generals and active-duty soldiers, the new letter is anonymous and is open for signing by the general public. As of noon… Read more »

Edith
Edith
Apr 10, 2022 11:47 AM

Astrology indicates he is pretty safe and will continue his job of completely destroying the place…

BuzzWordSmith
BuzzWordSmith
Apr 10, 2022 9:21 PM
Reply to  Edith

My cat indicates he will lose.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Apr 10, 2022 10:43 AM

There is a trove of what were described as being Rare Historical Photographs. Most took place in the Baltics in 1941 and are gruesome pictures of mass murder which took place in either Latvia or Lithuania, I am not sure which. They were called ‘The Kovno Garage massacres’ and were a joint venture between the local nazis and the German Einsatzgruppen (SS Death Squads).

There is another photograph which was in fact taken in Lviv in June 1941, another massacre where a half-dressed Jewish woman was running for her life down an unnamed street being pursued by a cudgel-welding Banderist mob; we could only imagine what her fate was.

It was frankly nauseating but such evidence should be made public. However for some reason I couldn’t download the evidence.

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 11, 2022 6:40 AM
Reply to  Donald Duck

The cameras of those days require a lot of setup. Think about that.

Clyde
Clyde
Apr 12, 2022 10:03 PM
Reply to  mgeo

You are very definitely retarded. Leica made cameras that you could point and shoot in the 1920s.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 10, 2022 10:20 AM

What can this mean? The world looks on with baited breath: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61027292 Note line of grim defiant soldiers. One of them turned to us as if to reassure us that we are all in this together. Flaming torch right up at the camera! “Predictions at the start of the invasion of a quick Russian victory have been upended by the Ukrainians’ willingness to fight, but the war is settling into a long struggle that could still endanger the wider world too.” Get ready for tough times ahead! Don’t you know there’s a war on! “Outside a volunteer centre I met a woman called Katrine hugging Nikita, her 18-month-old son. It was a brief reunion as her unit rotated through Kyiv. Katrine was a sniper, who said she was ready to kill to give her son a future.” Cue picture of brave mum and cute kid. Caption: “Katrine hugs her son… Read more »

Grafter
Grafter
Apr 10, 2022 10:51 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Dreadful ‘journalism’. Who else could write this fantasy but the BBC.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Apr 10, 2022 2:06 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Try the ABC, they are even worse.

Ort
Ort
Apr 10, 2022 8:43 PM
Reply to  Grafter

It’s exactly this sort of truthless drivel that years ago made me coin the term “infoganda”.

Edwige
Edwige
Apr 10, 2022 9:43 AM

I watched ‘The Illustrated Man’ (1969) for the first time in many years yesterday. A spacecraft has on it ‘The United States of Earth’. How much sci-fi pictures a world federation as the ultimate destination of progress has been noticed before. More curiously, when Steiger says today is humanity’s last day, he says this was discussed at “the World Forum”. He adds that this was a shared dream that everyone had and that most of humanity was already dead with only those who’d been living on mountain tops when the masses were gassed still alive. Mountain tops seem a Theosophical metaphor for the most spiritually enlightened. The idea that it’s humanity’s last day would seem to imply that everyone is going to die but it doesn’t necessarily mean that – it could mean transformation into another state. Maybe TPTB are such Darwinists that they believe they can force humanity to… Read more »

Vagabard
Vagabard
Apr 10, 2022 3:24 PM
Reply to  Edwige

That is a weird film. Difficult to make complete sense of. Other than beware of going on a date with a ‘skin illustrating’ lady.

60s nuclear fears probably playing into it. The survivors of the gas up the mountain like survivors of nuclear fallout?

‘On the Beach (1959)’ I recall also featured ‘medicine’ for kids in the event of radiation fallout

Dreams of space travel I suppose would have been big in 1969 too

Researcher
Researcher
Apr 10, 2022 5:00 PM
Reply to  Edwige

There’s no evolving. By 2050, they intend to replace most humans with actual robots, not transhumans. In Russia the plan is called the Golden Billion. In the US, it’s Ted Turner’s Georgia Guidestones.

Everything is inverted. Media is disinfo. War is peace. Slavery is Freedom. Therefore “saving lives” through lockdowns, masks and vaccines is actually the opposite. It signalled the beginning of earnest depopulation measures. Some of these measures are being trialled in China. They’ll be implemented worldwide using a variety of pretexts. The serious depopulation will begin with the abolition of cash and evermore deadly boosters.

MLS
MLS
Apr 10, 2022 7:44 PM
Reply to  Researcher

I agree with you about the extent of fakery in Ukraine which most people seem unable to face. But replacing people with robots is just a Schwabian fantasy, Trust me. AI is my line of work, and it’s artificial but definitely not intelligent. It’s just about mimicking intelligence not creating, but say that very obvious thing abd you get fired.

Researcher
Researcher
Apr 10, 2022 8:47 PM
Reply to  MLS

The robots don’t need to be intelligent. They only need to perform rudimentary functions in place of people, mimicking their actions and behavior. Many factories are already almost fully automated.

The depopulation is happening whether you believe it or not. Technology has already replaced many human face to face interactions. Once there’s no cash, they can legally starve someone if they don’t get their booster by freezing access to their digital dollars. Everyone who wasn’t an essential worker during that first few weeks of lockdown is a potential target.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 10, 2022 9:29 AM

Latest from WSWS whips up spectre of nuclear Armageddon and then links to covid – as compactly presented in the title:

Capitalism normalizes death: From COVID-19 to the threat of nuclear war

But there’s still room for a laugh in the comments as Carolyn Zaremba responds: “Right on”.

If I hadn’t been banned I would have responded to CZ with a “Damned straight!”

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 10, 2022 9:36 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I get it now. The capitalist system does what it does and the Left are there to act as a pressure release valve by loudly complaining about it, making vague noises about how we need a revolution …. and then going back to their verandas to bask in the view of the sinking minions.

Researcher
Researcher
Apr 10, 2022 4:45 PM
Reply to  George Mc

You still don’t quite “get it”. Politics and economics are a ruse. The owners of the world never lose ownership or control under any economic or political system. They’ve owned it and run it for generations, over millennia.

The currencies are printed (and endlessly hypothecated) on the backs of everyone’s birth certificate (taxation + earnings + expenditure + energy + IP + debt + offspring = real GDP) in both capitalism and communism. The “capital” is human and always has been. It’s Debt Slavery. Debt slavery isn’t capitalism or communism it’s JUST debt slavery. It exists under both systems.

However, in one system, where the state (which has always been privately owned) has more power, humans are more easily exterminated.

Trewpol
Trewpol
Apr 10, 2022 9:17 AM

Excellent article Michael

That Hay creature better beware because as many of us have said the system is a parasite and now that it’s gorged itself on all we have to offer it’s starting to eat itself. This from a tech insider via the Yuri Bezmenov substack check it out:

THE MISERABLE LIFE IN WOKE SILICON VALLEY

Twitter thread from someone who goes by the name Hazard Harrington, who works in Silicon Valley. I have no way of verifying the truth of the person or his position, but it certainly squares with a lot of other accounts of how woefully woke Silicon Valley has become—the more so in the time of COVID—so I am reasonably confident it is authentic:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/01/the-miserable-life-in-woke-silicon-valley.php

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 10, 2022 9:10 AM

China, the country that “did it right”, clearly didn’t do it right enough:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/08/desperation-amid-food-shortages-in-shanghai-as-covid-lockdown-bites

Rights observers have also expressed increasing concern. ​“The use of the word ‘lockdown’ can be quite imprecise when used in China compared with the rest of the world,” said Maya Wang, a senior researcher at Human Rights Watch, adding that it did not fully capture the severity of the situation.

And I have a strange feeling that “China’s way” is the envy of the Western world. But don’t worry, we’ll get there yet!

Mike Ellwood (Oxon, UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon, UK)
Apr 10, 2022 10:57 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Right On! 😂

les online
les online
Apr 10, 2022 7:12 AM

“Ukraine” in fact was never a state; it was always an annex to another state or empire such as Poland, Austria-Hungary, Turkey, and crucially Russia” says Pepe Escobar:
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/04/08/the-total-war-to-cancel-russia/
Someone written out of Ukraine’s history is the anarchist revolutionary Nestor Makhno who, 1917-1921, fought the Czarists, and the Bolsheviks, for Ukraine’s freedom…My introduction to him was The Unknown Revolution by Voline. He’d provide inspiration for those Ukrainians who’d like to kick the Russians out, and be free from being annexed to US/NATO…

Ella
Ella
Apr 10, 2022 6:16 AM

Is anyone else feeling completely overwhelmed by it all? I don’t agree with anyone in my real world about anything any more

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Apr 10, 2022 8:12 AM
Reply to  Ella

Makes two of us or, probably, thousands of us.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Apr 10, 2022 9:12 AM
Reply to  Ella

That’s the plan, Ella.

Chaos is the aim so they can offer you order out of chaos – at a cost

You have to hold on to what you know is true.

And yes, it’s hard, but there are lots of us who can see the truth.

You are definately not alone.

May Hem
May Hem
Apr 10, 2022 4:45 AM

Off-topic, but let’s look for a moment away from the distraction of Ukraine …..

A project suspiciously called “Prism” (Prison?) has just placed 5 million Ethiopian children on blockchain. This 2 minute video shows how wonderfully “beneficial” this will be to the childrens’ future prospects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaER344dhhU&list=PLnNSjVGWqTO63mFMp7cKWzuIk2woVwCnR&index=4

Meanwhile, “At least 5.2 million people in Ethiopa urgently need food support. Currently, 3.1 million children are at risk of malnutrition. Over 3.5 million people no longer have access to safe drinking water. “The hunger emergency in Ethiopia is the most severe in the world right now and can best be described as mass starvation,” says Catherine Harris, Caritas Australia’s Humanitarian Coordinator.”
https://reliefweb.int/report/ethiopia/millions-are-risk-famine-ethiopia-crisis-escalates

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Apr 10, 2022 11:02 PM
Reply to  May Hem

They soon won’t be the only ones. Prison- yeah. But I think BLOCKCHAIN is the nastiest of all- in chains he was led to the block!

les online
les online
Apr 10, 2022 3:38 AM

According to the Saturday papers (Sydney) DELTACRON, the latest “variant” has landed in Australia. The news was worth only a page 16 mention in the Telegraph. Scientists made the remarkable claim that “it is too early to tell what impact it will have.”… Another paper, Sydney Morning Herald, informs, on page 19, that ‘Omicron wave likely passed its peak in NSW’… So Omicron has finished its starring role in The Pandemic production, is leaving centre-stage, and it’s Deltacron’s turn to star – makes its entrance just before Winter blossoms… (Expect an exciting duel scene – between the new bug and that old bug, “The Flu” ?)… All things ‘covid’ have become rather boring, so to spice up the production, the authors have introduced some (initially) minor characters called ‘mixed specimens’… “Seven mixed specimens had already been identified in NSW…Two new specimens were identified in NSW this week…” The “mixed specimens”… Read more »

Edith
Edith
Apr 10, 2022 4:05 AM
Reply to  les online

And did you note that they are claiming to have identified this new varient from its DNA …what the shit are they talking about….it’s DNA? We seem to be switching from the magic of virus to magic of DNA ….must be true we have identified it via its DNA….on it all goes.

les online
les online
Apr 10, 2022 4:48 AM
Reply to  Edith

Well, though the battle to put Germ Theory out of its misery is ongoing, in the wings is A Worse Terror, Genomic Theory, and a likely rival Biological Markers of diseases… It’s a Forever War and the bastards who want to control us, or are desperate to maintain their control of us, are quite inventive…
(Secretly: i hope They invent some Longevity injectable STUFF, as i’d like to be around to see if WE win…)

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 10, 2022 7:44 AM
Reply to  Edith

Earlier, the pundits told us that the elusive virus (no one has claimed to have a specimen yet) as modelled on computer was all RNA, not DNA.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Apr 10, 2022 2:08 PM
Reply to  Edith

They are still claiming they are genoming, yet not one lab in the world has ever had any virus to genome apart from the fake thing in the test kits invented by Drosten and accepted by WHO and CDC

May Hem
May Hem
Apr 10, 2022 4:42 AM
Reply to  les online

I suspect our government is getting us ready for the next onslaught of restrictions just after the federal election in May, and just as the cold weather arrives, and just as Pfizer’s new pill is launched ……….. and, just as parliament passes its “Trusted I.D. Bill” into legislation.

All carefully timed. Of course. Unless we can vote in a lot of independent candidates in the senate. Perhaps a ‘hung’ parliament might upset this performance?

les online
les online
Apr 10, 2022 5:15 AM
Reply to  May Hem

Agreed. Though i will offer > “Independent Candidates” means only that they are not standing as members of a main party, not that their stand on issues that really matter are Independent… And, mostly, in Australian politics with its preferential voting system,
Independents capture dissidents votes and feed them back to the main parties, often to the Bastards that should be kicked out…

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Apr 10, 2022 10:52 AM
Reply to  May Hem

I don’t believe they bother to count the votes. The new puppet is chosen by the banksters and follow the same script.

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Apr 10, 2022 2:49 AM
Thinktwice
Thinktwice
Apr 10, 2022 1:55 AM

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Penelope
Penelope
Apr 10, 2022 6:16 AM
Reply to  Thinktwice

None of the above.

Orthus
Orthus
Apr 10, 2022 7:15 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Why not Putin? Dom Biden was saying he was going to invade in February, either tomorrow or the day after or the day after that, and eventually he did.

(Also the question does not permit your answer.😀)

COVIDsteria eBook
COVIDsteria eBook
Apr 11, 2022 5:37 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Read the poll… It says “trust more” NOT “who do you trust” – there is a difference here  😂 

Thinktwice
Thinktwice
Apr 10, 2022 1:52 AM

Bozzetto @Bozzetto3000

This is absolutely horrible!

Patrick Madrid @patrickmadrid

What the?? This video taken yesterday in Shanghai, China, 
by the father of a close friend of mine. 
She verified its authenticity: 
People screaming out of their windows after a week of total lockdown, 
no leaving your apartment for any reason.

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https://twitter.com/Bozzetto3000/status/1512924347652091905?cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Apr 10, 2022 10:55 AM
Reply to  Thinktwice

This is horrifying by itself but the real horror is that it is a precursor of what is in store for all of us.

Thinktwice
Thinktwice
Apr 10, 2022 12:37 PM

Can’t stop hearing that audio track in my head!!

Penelope
Penelope
Apr 10, 2022 1:41 AM

Hungary Prepares to Leave EU
Newly re-elected Orban is the sole EU member who says he’s wiling to pay for Russian gas in rubles. (Although France has recently paid in euros, but the bank changed it to rubles.)

“the West is already talking about the “overthrow of his dictatorial regime”, and another “color revolution” is being worked out.”
https://pravdaru.mirtesen.ru/blog/43377026485/Vengriya-gotovitsya-k-vyihodu-iz-Evrosoyuza?utm_referrer=mirtesen.ru&utm_source=mirtesen&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=95987&utm_content=11914182&utm_term=43702

mls
mls
Apr 10, 2022 5:51 AM
Reply to  Penelope

That’s just a bunch of meaningless posturing though isn’t it. Like France paying in Euros but the bank converting to rubles. Political equivalent of celebrity gossip

Penelope
Penelope
Apr 10, 2022 6:34 AM
Reply to  mls

mls, Hungary deprived EU of the unanimous vote they need to agree not to buy Russian petrochems w rubles. If Hungary actually leaves the EU, more pressure will be brought on the others to actually enforce the matter.

The importance of EU countries ACTUALLY not buying Russian petrochems is the incredible rapidity with which the EU economy wd be brought down. This in turn will hasten the onslaught of the global digital currency.

Great deterioration of the global economy is the REASON the Russian/Eukie war has been engineered. Don’t you get it? The more industries collapse, the less resistance there w/b for their digital currency cum surveillance/control system.

Orthus
Orthus
Apr 10, 2022 7:20 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Do you understand the EU?

Penelope
Penelope
Apr 12, 2022 2:46 AM
Reply to  Orthus

Orthus,
Initiation of EU was a mark of the ascendancy of the NWO. It occurred as a violation of the democratic will of the people.

covidiot
covidiot
Apr 10, 2022 6:23 AM
Reply to  Penelope

sanitized link, without all the tracking and surveillance crap (why don’t people know this?):

https://pravdaru.mirtesen.ru/blog/43377026485/Vengriya-gotovitsya-k-vyihodu-iz-Evrosoyuza

Ort
Ort
Apr 10, 2022 8:35 PM
Reply to  covidiot

To answer your rhetorical question: non-technical “entry-level” URLmongers are conditioned to believe that: 1) if the unsanitized URL they view suffices to present the page they wish to share, the best practice is simply to directly copy/paste said URL without modification, and 2) this unfortunate habit is reinforced by the experience-based error that if one omits even a single character from an URL, it will “break” it.

You don’t have to reply with high dudgeon that this conditioning and understanding is wrong and stupid. Once I understood the need to eliminate superfluous strings from URLs I immediately changed my habits and now “sanitize”. 

Of course, people who do understand that URLs can and should be “sanitized”, but post unsanitized URLs out of haste or indifference should be ashamed of themselves. 😠

Penelope
Penelope
Apr 12, 2022 2:49 AM
Reply to  covidiot

covidiot, I guess you cd have told me about the “tracking & surveillance crap” if that’s what it is. Why be impolite about it? I don’t suppose you have a link that explains or documents that do you?

Thanks

Jacques
Jacques
Apr 10, 2022 6:34 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Just for the record, Czechia buys 99% of its natural gas supply from Germany. Also, Russian gas accounts for 40% of the EU’s consumption.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Apr 10, 2022 1:29 AM

We need to bring back documentaries like World in Action from the ’60’s imo.
Little or no talking about this that, good independent cameramen.. part one, part two. No dress up no bloody drama music shite.

Don’t like it, turn to another channel or do something else.
imo.

Orthus
Orthus
Apr 10, 2022 7:33 AM
Reply to  Clive Williams

Yes but make it 5 minutes long for the modern attention span.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 9, 2022 11:09 PM

The Daily Beast is a repository of the increasingly panic stricken rhetoric of the bourgeois liberal class as they attempt to patch up the old and fast dissolving theatre of that cozy post WW2 consumer society which now only exists in their fond sugary memories. They are hoping that there are still enough affluent stooges out there to provide some kind of bulwark against this rising troublesome mob who have the audacity to refuse to submit to the unquestioned “final solution” of the Reset, the details of which this hack executive sector don’t’ want to know. But then this sector have effectively lobotomised themselves in the service of that very Reset.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 9, 2022 11:18 PM
Reply to  George Mc

And if all that sounds too conspiratorial to you, well I’ve had enough pussy footing around. Covid showed unmistakably how the media – even all the way over to an “extreme Left” that pretended to be “outside” – was one big ugly monolithic toad. The unfailingly repeated rhetoric all the way across these “diverse” outlets shows an astonishing level of central planning. The slimy underhanded smearing of true dissidents as “Right Wingers” likewise shows not only coordination but a manoeuvre long planned. And the handy thing about all this is that it no longer seems profitable to trace connections. Every single one of these media channels conforms to the pattern. If the channel is big or even of moderate size, it’s corrupt, controlled, packed with spooks, hacks and dupes. Most depressingly – these vampiric voices never change. No matter how shameful, absurd, pathetic, moronic and no matter how much time passes… Read more »

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 10, 2022 2:13 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Perhaps a real disease will soon materialize, which will decimate only them

It’s not as if they don’t have identifying characteristics – like an IQ of exactly 99, no humour, no morality, and no humanity.
If I was Prince Philip, reincarnated, as he wished, as a virus, those are the ones I’d go for.

The dilemma we would then face is the question of exactly what kind of person is actually well-suited to managing crucial aspects of human civilization?
Aspects such as Judiciary, Economics and Culture, which need to balance each other, but all of which are currently controlled by Economics alone…

mls
mls
Apr 10, 2022 5:54 AM
Reply to  George Mc

You need to include some “independent” media in there too. Mintpress News, Grayzone, Democracy Now, Consortium News, Craig Murray… too many sadly

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 10, 2022 8:47 AM
Reply to  mls

That’s who I was thinking of when I said,

even all the way over to an “extreme Left” that pretended to be “outside”.

mls
mls
Apr 10, 2022 5:52 AM
Reply to  George Mc

You should write articles ATL

Kalen
Kalen
Apr 9, 2022 9:47 PM

One of critical and commonly used by many notably Nazi Germany, US and first of all by Israel since its creation, psychological warfare propaganda is blanket arbitrary self assertion of universal victimhood extending to entire nation even if it is an aggressor nation. Leaving any questions of such at best only partially real but mostly fake universal victimhood beyond reproach and any legitimate public debate. In such propaganda context no actions brutal even criminal, genocidal actions perpetrated by any member of such state, military or civilian need to be justified or explained other than under rubric “fully justified by refusal to continue to be a victim”. Interestingly Jewish Holocaust survivors themselves rejected universal victimhood and pointed out significant contribution of some Jewish elites to facilitation of mass murder of Jewish population by closely collaborating with Nazis even supporting Nazi war effort by contracting with Wehrmacht and using that money to… Read more »

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Apr 10, 2022 12:39 AM
Reply to  Kalen

+100

fertility
fertility
Apr 9, 2022 9:01 PM

Michael nailed it.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 9, 2022 7:07 PM

And whilst with Mr Craig Murray down in the seldom visited swamp of paid up delusion (post pending!), I thought I’d pay a visit to Mr Murphy Taxman who delivers this:

“And what we now know is that Covid kills in many ways. All those mysterious heart attacks amongst people previously thought to be fit are not without a reason.”

A masterpiece of concentrated misdirection!

The most depressing thing – and this goes for Murphy and Murray – is that you already know everything they will say from the first time you encounter them. The fundamental stinking point of departure, the rotten root – is exposed at the start. You know there will be no deviation. In the beginning was the fraud etc.

Invisible Man
Invisible Man
Apr 10, 2022 2:56 AM
Reply to  George Mc

“And what we now know is that Covid kills in many ways. All those mysterious heart attacks amongst people previously thought to be fit are not without a reason.”

The most depressing part is that the Covidians will believe the lie that Covid, not the vaccine, was the cause of the uptick in heart attacks and strokes.

Willem
Willem
Apr 10, 2022 7:33 AM
Reply to  Invisible Man

Covid is a temporary event
The vaccine is there (in principal) forever

So sure, they hope it’s covid. They may think different, but the thinking is painful in so many ways, most of all, because it’s self inflicted.

It is a lesson that reality doesn’t care of what you think,

Mike Ellwood (Oxon, UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon, UK)
Apr 10, 2022 11:16 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Speaking as an MMTer, my main beef with Murphy is that he claims to represent MMT while actually misrepresenting it.

It came as no surprise that he was fully on board with covidiocy.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 9, 2022 6:49 PM

Jesus H! I just had a look in on Craig Murray for the first time in perhaps six months and couldn’t believe what I was reading. He is totally under the media vision of Evil Russia/Evil Putin etc. And the “disastrous invasion”. And the “humiliation of Russia”. His “Striving to Make Sense of the Ukraine War” post is just reheated MSM crap. And even descends to the sickening sanctimonious phony tear spouting over the “heroic resistance” and a bemoaning of lives lost conceived as complete abstraction. Why is this guy still there? Why does he have followers? Fuck – even the title “Striving to Make Sense of the Ukraine War” is phony liberal hand wringing vomit! And how about this?: “Just a year ago, even the Guardian was prepared to admit that President Zelensky is linked to $41 million in dodgy offshore cash holdings and effectively a front for corrupt… Read more »

John Goss
John Goss
Apr 9, 2022 7:59 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I read it a few days back. It is well written, and some of it is fair comment. But as you say it is grossly one-sided. His usual comment-makers are telling him what great analysis it is – which can only invite more of the same. If I was allowed to comment there I would tell a whole different story. The major flaw is a surreal detachment from the way this nasty business all began. If I recall there is no mention of Poroshenko and his declaration of war on the people of eastern Ukraine – as it was then. No mention of how Putin was asked to help at the start but went instead for the Minsk protocol which the Nazis totally abjured, no mention if I remember of the roles people like Victoria Nuland, Geoffrey Pyatt and the Bidens played in it. Indeed if Russia had gone in… Read more »

Orthus
Orthus
Apr 9, 2022 8:06 PM
Reply to  John Goss

Not allowed to comment? You and Rhys Jagger?

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 10, 2022 8:52 AM
Reply to  Orthus

Rhys did appear recently though seemingly appreciative of the article – which made me wonder if it really was Rhys!

And I forgot to mention that dear old DunGroanin is still there.

Mike Ellwood (Oxon, UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon, UK)
Apr 10, 2022 11:22 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Wonder how many jabs he’s had?

John Goss
John Goss
Apr 10, 2022 12:27 PM
Reply to  Orthus

Apparently Clark Killick, a lifelong moderator, and probably more enthusiastic since Craig set up a blog-fund, was given some code that can permanently make posting a comment inoperable. Or so Tony 0 said.

Antonym
Antonym
Apr 10, 2022 12:59 PM
Reply to  John Goss

That Clark is an Antropogenic Catastrophic Global warming propagator connected to Extinction Rebellion plus IT guy. He likes to block comments that don’t align with his, so a useful tool – in the hand of others.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 10, 2022 8:55 AM
Reply to  John Goss

God bless you John. You certainly have more patience than I. When I get the jist of an article and it seems to me to be one of those hopeless pieces that hasn’t a fucking clue – or perhaps spook speak – then I just bypass.

I take my motto from the mighty Bobster:

Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late.

Orthus
Orthus
Apr 9, 2022 8:05 PM
Reply to  George Mc

So, tell us why the invasion was such a great thing for Russia. Not just inevitable, had no choice etc. but a great thing. You can’t deny that the US crime family, the Bidens, has been able to exploit it to the full.

TDj
TDj
Apr 9, 2022 9:42 PM
Reply to  Orthus

The US Dollar is already Down against the Rouble… Check Trading Economics.

Do you seriously think it will ever get stronger again?
No way !

You seem to be thinking very very short term,
Thinking about energy, gas, oil, etc… & exchange rates on market volumes.
The great thing is that the US currency, liquidity and credibility is now,
* essentially fuk’d* under the spotlight…
* Just not yours…*!
Plenty of funny money, no doubt,
But have you adequate food reserves?
Not just you!
Both Putin & Xi have a
Combined Strategy to make even you,
Feel the need,
To get REAL !

Orthus
Orthus
Apr 9, 2022 10:27 PM
Reply to  TDj

You are missing the point. It is perfectly possible for Craig Murray (not me) to see the invasion as being a bad thing for Russia without him being a fan of Biden.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 9, 2022 10:59 PM
Reply to  Orthus

I never said it was a “great” thing for Russia. I reckon it was a final straw thing. Many have commented on Russia’s patience with the creeping wolf that is NATO. Putin himself noted that, were the tables reversed and Russian was in, say, Canada, the Americans would probably have already launched the nukes.

Hell, even some in the Marxist camp (Steel City Scribblings) have become exasperated at the fingerpointing bullshit that condemns Russia with the WSWS foremost in complaining that Putin didn’t have the decency to wait for the communist revolution – you know, the one that’s just round the corner.

Orthus
Orthus
Apr 10, 2022 1:15 PM
Reply to  George Mc

As it happens I agree that it was probably the last straw and it wasn’t great for Russia or anyone but I don’t think that Murray is saying any more than Putin was led or conned into it by the US.

TDj
TDj
Apr 15, 2022 3:59 PM
Reply to  Orthus

Apologies for misconstruing above: having moved to the Balkans,( before NATO set up their bases ) to study weather: most specifically Jet Stream Patterns ‘harmonised’ & engineered to human behaviours. All engineer Weather. I knew this from first hand * knowledge of electronics…* Putin was led and conned only until 2001, then he understood the connectivity Between Monsanto, Enron, B.P. GEC HAARP & the US D.o.D. and the plight of Legacy US Farmers’ heritage & seed, destroyed by Corporations, with constant drought and media Machinations Warring with terror: so he began with cleansing, first His own house and Mikhail Khodorovsky, just one example: from this moment onwards both Soros & d’Rothschild Corp. knew they were in trouble…With Parallel Platforms, also in China amplifying capabilities, daily, Holding gold reserves, developing new exchanges was Putin’s focus, whilst China worked with Lockheed Martin’s Help designing 500 installations for the 2008 Olympic distraction.from geo-engineering… Read more »

Ort
Ort
Apr 9, 2022 8:47 PM
Reply to  George Mc

FWIW, I was attracted to Murray’s blog several years ago because he seemed to have been “radicalized” in the broad sense after being victimized by the UK Establishment, and also because he is a militant supporter of Julian Assange. When I visited his blog daily for a period of several months, I soon learned that his seeming evolution was uneven at best. For instance, during various crisis points in Assange’s heinous state-sponsored abuse, Murray would express a frankly idiotic confidence that the “rule of law” would surely prevail and ultimately rescue Assange.  It’s not worth racking my brains for other examples, but there were similar instances of Craig seeming to exasperatingly revert or regress to conventional authoritarian-submissiveness. My interest in his views and doings cooled. I abruptly abandoned his blog for an admittedly petty or petulant reason: I was chastised by his junkyard-dog comments censor for posting a civil reply to another commenter… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 9, 2022 11:08 PM
Reply to  Ort

My impression of Craig is that he is a thoroughly demoralised character who had his fingers rapped when lured into a making a false claim against one of those manipulative media cockroaches who quoted Murray out of context. This led to a threated suing but was resolved, Craig having learned his lesson.

The odd arrangement between CM and his administrators is a wonder. The one known as Clark is a curious creature, possibly the most devious troll mind I have ever encountered. Or possibly mentally unstable. (He wasn’t above threatening to commit suicide when people kept disagreeing with him.) I sometimes wonder if Murray’s blog is staffed by the cast of Goodfellas.

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 10, 2022 6:18 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I get a bad feeling about many of today’s ‘outspoken’ critics of this and that…
They last for a couple of years, and then perhaps the CIA threaten to reveal their suspicious web-browsing habits to their wives and children – or something…
Suddenly, they go to great pains to avoid seeming to be ‘too’ controversial – as a result saying nothing at all, after which they basically evaporate like the Occupy Movement did.

Murray is educated and informed, but I can’t shrug off the suspicion that he really belongs in an officer’s mess, somewhere in Africa between 1914 and 1945…
I sort of like him, but he’s out-of-date. He is his own grandfather.
Breeding, you know…

Mike Ellwood (Oxon, UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon, UK)
Apr 10, 2022 11:28 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Maybe he’s just a character in a Graham Greene novel.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Apr 9, 2022 6:06 PM

youTube has an old Vice Media report from several years ago about the simmering conflict in the Donbass and the role that informal militias — ‘patriots’ — are playing in it. The imagery looks very contemporary. The journalist refers to the number of people killed (~10,000) and displaced (~2 million) and indirectly describes how the people involved in the conflict are committed to keeping — it going. It defines who they are. Now the Russians have turned their attention to the East there’s current media stories about the panicked population fleeing (including the attack on the train station — that’s front and center). There’s no mention that this conflict has been simmering for 7 or 8 years, no mention of the deaths, destruction and displacement already caused by this conflict, just lots of happy, peaceful, fleeing in terror from the contemporary version of the Mongol hordes. The video is at… Read more »

Joerg
Joerg
Apr 9, 2022 5:31 PM

Ukraine-Crisis getting more dangerous the longer it lasts:

Howard
Howard
Apr 9, 2022 5:09 PM

Is it just impossibly high standards of attractiveness on my part – or is Rob Eshman “blind in one eye and can’t see out of the other” if he regards Zelensky as “handsome?” Or are his eyes just jaundiced from straining so hard to see something that isn’t there?

covidiot
covidiot
Apr 10, 2022 6:42 AM
Reply to  Howard

Ort
Ort
Apr 10, 2022 8:09 PM
Reply to  Howard

Perhaps, like me, you are prejudiced by a firm belief in the traditional maxim “Handsome is as handsome does.”

John Goss
John Goss
Apr 9, 2022 4:20 PM

It is always heartening to read something that makes real sense in a world of nonsense. Yes, we are at war, but the Hay doctrine of conflating anti-vaxxers, as they call us, with the pro-Russian war-machine that has gone to liberate Donbas and its people, works both ways. Because, as you say, the wheels are coming off the Covid-19 wagon we must now never miss an opportunity to point out that the ones who sold people the “pandemic” lies are the same people selling the false-flags in Mariupol, Bucha and Kamagorsk. We need, because we are at war, to keep pointing out the flaws in the narrative – the way we did with the Covid fabrications. And it should be easier thanks to parliament and its mouthpieces already being questioned over the last pile of yerunda. And just to show I walk the walk as well as talk the talk… Read more »

Mike Ellwood (Oxon, UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon, UK)
Apr 10, 2022 12:03 PM
Reply to  John Goss

Good article. And the related One about BJ’s visit
.,Military advisors” – where have we heard that before?

There is video (not just from MSM) of the attack on Azovstal on YouTube. Seems to be taking a pounding.

John Goss
John Goss
Apr 10, 2022 6:49 PM

Thanks. Yes Mike, I’ve seen some of that footage. I doubt the Russians will do too much damage to the infrastructure because it will be easier to get the factory restarted when the war is over (hopefully).

I have learnt that there is a network of underground tunnels at the Azovstal factory including bomb shelters. I suspect the Russian and DPR troops will play a waiting game, popping off any attempts to rescue them. We will see. Mariupol is a key strategic town.

MLS
MLS
Apr 10, 2022 7:56 PM
Reply to  John Goss

Yeah, John, you “learned” it from some journalists and the Russian MoD.

I learned it too. Apparently there are “catacombs” beneath the steel works and they can’t be bombed so the struggle to defeat the underground Nazis might take a very long time.

catacombs. On multiple levels. Beneath a steel works.

Necessitating silent underground warfare for unspecified lengths of time because bombing won’t work.

I thought the story sounded as bullshit as the similar stories about bin Laden’s cave. A stupid fiction to give thin justification for those pesky Nazis leaping back into life whenever needed so this phony war can go on as long as desired by both “sides”.

If the Americans had said there were endless catacombs full of Al Qaeda under a steel plant in Syria you’d have laughed at the idea. But apparently you believe any old crap the Russians spew.

Marty
Marty
Apr 9, 2022 4:03 PM

We need to return to the principles of respect for National Sovereignty, Peaceful Coexistence, and Non intervention that were enshrined in International Law and the UN Charter. In addition, we have to end all neocolonialist financial structures and allow nations to have National Banking and to foster economic development. Watch today 4/9 all day, an International Conference by Schiller Institute, with presentations by Diplomats, Government political , union business and union leaders,
https://schillerinstitute.com/blog/2022/04/08/conference-for-a-conference-to-establish-a-new-security-and-development-architecture-for-all-nations/

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 9, 2022 3:27 PM

Excellent article, thank you. Yes, the time to fight is now, as I have said incessantly in my past articles…we can’t let the smoke and mirrors (distractions, propaganda) lull us into transferring energy away from the real problem(s). Most of us (if not all) reading here are resisting that pressure, but much of the rest of the world seem to be quite blind.

I3art
I3art
Apr 9, 2022 8:13 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

R u blowing up 5g antennas?

mls
mls
Apr 9, 2022 2:42 PM

Indy media is depressing right now. OffG is one of the few places where some semblance of sanity remains. Elsewhere the former COVID resistance is now cosying up with the Lockdown Left to promote the idea Russia is going to defeat Klaus Schwab. Pure insanity. OffG needs to climb off the fence and call it out.

Antonym
Antonym
Apr 9, 2022 4:49 PM
Reply to  mls

Is Putin still a fan of the WEF? Was he ever? Or Xi? Most Western software was kicked out of China and will be soon out of Russia, huge firewalls are up left and right. Digital technocratic globalisation bye bye.

dude
dude
Apr 9, 2022 8:48 PM
Reply to  Antonym

LOL WTF? Do you live in an alternate reality? China is the poster child for digital technocratic everything.

TDj
TDj
Apr 9, 2022 10:17 PM
Reply to  dude

Dude, be quiet 🤫 unless you truly understand Chinese culture, history and
Philosophy in some form, along with Western Electronic Empires of seduction,
And Maggie’s dumb deals, you are laughable… I was in China/Hong Kong, before
Two Cows even got started , then came Chinese intelligence,
Performing way above your Western average boring bollocks commentary…
In IQ terms, Life moved on, above your delusions !
Ages ago, lol.
U.So.Slow.
Sovereign State or…
Corporation, who is,
A C C O U N T A B L E ! ?
LEGAL LIABILITY ?

TDj
TDj
Apr 9, 2022 9:58 PM
Reply to  Antonym

A.Top Cat comment … kicked out, after sampling and testing on parallel platforms.
Likely: With sound reasoning upon reflection…
Are you sad that they intervened ?

covidiot
covidiot
Apr 10, 2022 6:49 AM
Reply to  TDj

these AI troll-bots have such a unique style of discourse. no mere human could produce such utter nonsense.

Penelope
Penelope
Apr 10, 2022 1:49 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Antonym, Putin very recently asked Rus Central Bank to consider a digital ruble. He’s asked Nabiullina to stay on as head of the bank.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Apr 10, 2022 10:54 AM
Reply to  mls

”Lockdown left.” I like it!

Observe
Observe
Apr 9, 2022 12:19 PM

Something that’s bothering me: Highlighting any event that may have happened in a certain way decades ago, as in this article and many more, and using that to say why it’s clear now that journalists or commentators purposely obscure the truth to support a current agenda, seems to me to be inherently problematic. I struggle to square the circle of apparent lies and manipulation of current affairs, with an acceptance that much of history, recent or otherwise, is any more factual, any less a fabrication by those that have owned and disseminated information in the past. Isn’t it time we just accepted that we, the masses, have been blinded from so much truth for so long, that we can never really know the facts of our history? Relying on probable lies of the past to assess probable lies of the present seems ridiculous to me. Accept that you know little… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
Apr 9, 2022 2:12 PM
Reply to  Observe

The next step?

Observe
Observe
Apr 9, 2022 2:48 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Live with a critical, distrustful and cynical view of anyone claiming power over us. Don’t vote in a system that simply uses that compliance to further control your life. Find community in others who feel the same. Don’t look to a manipulated history for answers. Hope for a future free from the psychopaths who want it all for themselves at great cost to everyone else.

susan mullen
susan mullen
Apr 9, 2022 12:13 PM

The late Justin Raimondo said the Bush Middle East wars marked the end of US as free people, that US is only about Empire. The US Constitution that had placed chains around our rulers so that people could be free is ignored. It can’t save us. As Justin said, before Empire can operate, they need to wage war against US taxpayers, silence them, impoverish them, enslave them for life to the US/UK Empire global genocide bomb squad, NATO, etc. So it’s back to being subjects of an Empire again. Ideally US voters should be able to vote to convert US to a neutral country, no more selling weapons to other countries. But since US is a military dictatorship, that won’t happen. The only way to be free again is for US to be broken up into at least 3 parts.

switchedON
switchedON
Apr 9, 2022 12:08 PM

I checked your links out and The Cancel culture woke baby’s @ ADL’s article mentions the usual xyz.
But didn’t the Ukraine pseudo president actor Zelensky state:
“Ukraine Will Become Big Israel After The War”
comments where deliberate on the build up to EID
(Though the majority, as always, will never see or believe it regardless!!)
It not like he has hidden the fact now in that speech. However any ACTUAL discussion of this is basically off limits and will get you banned.

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Comment went straight in to pending why..?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Apr 9, 2022 12:56 PM
Reply to  switchedON

…it happens 🤷‍♂️. A2

Duckman
Duckman
Apr 10, 2022 10:08 AM
Reply to  switchedON

pending is the joy many of us face, its the sweet face of censorship, tho with the issues the current article touches upon it seems offg is willing to stretch the cube a little, thanks for that offg…. As linked a week or so ago by “olivia e” and derided as tin foil hat by some of our “regulars” this is worth a read and has great context. I think in the time to come many of us will look back and “marvel” dare i say it at the complexity and sheer duration of the plan laid before us. I`m reminded of a recent comment regarding the current world saga as “managers in-fighting”, multiple captains of a sinking ship might be closer, each captain as it were hiding a brace and bit behind their backs.. The future is “ours”, what we do with it is down to us as any… Read more »