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You’ve Been Flagged as a Threat: Predictive AI Technology Puts a Target on Your Back

John W. Whitehead & Nisha Whitehead

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“The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem and very often makes the problem worse.”
Milton Friedman

You’ve been flagged as a threat. Before long, every household in America will be similarly flagged and assigned a threat score.

Without having ever knowingly committed a crime or been convicted of one, you and your fellow citizens have likely been assessed for behaviors the government might consider devious, dangerous or concerning; assigned a threat score based on your associations, activities and viewpoints; and catalogued in a government database according to how you should be approached by police and other government agencies based on your particular threat level.

If you’re not unnerved over the ramifications of how such a program could be used and abused, keep reading.

It’s just a matter of time before you find yourself wrongly accused, investigated and confronted by police based on a data-driven algorithm or risk assessment culled together by a computer program run by artificial intelligence.

Consider the case of Michael Williams, who spent almost a year in jail for a crime he didn’t commit. Williams was behind the wheel when a passing car fired at his vehicle, killing his 25-year-old passenger Safarian Herring, who had hitched a ride.

Despite the fact that Williams had no motive, there were no eyewitnesses to the shooting, no gun was found in the car, and Williams himself drove Herring to the hospital, police charged the 65-year-old man with first-degree murder based on ShotSpotter, a gunshot detection program that had picked up a loud bang on its network of surveillance microphones and triangulated the noise to correspond with a noiseless security video showing Williams’ car driving through an intersection. The case was eventually dismissed for lack of evidence.

Although gunshot detection program like ShotSpotter are gaining popularity with law enforcement agencies, prosecutors and courts alike, they are riddled with flaws, mistaking “dumpsters, trucks, motorcycles, helicopters, fireworks, construction, trash pickup and church bells…for gunshots.”

As an Associated Press investigation found, “the system can miss live gunfire right under its microphones, or misclassify the sounds of fireworks or cars backfiring as gunshots.”

In one community, ShotSpotter worked less than 50% of the time.

Then there’s the human element of corruption which invariably gets added to the mix. In some cases, “employees have changed sounds detected by the system to say that they are gunshots.” Forensic reports prepared by ShotSpotter’s employees have also “been used in court to improperly claim that a defendant shot at police, or provide questionable counts of the number of shots allegedly fired by defendants.”

The same company that owns ShotSpotter also owns a predictive policing program that aims to use gunshot detection data to “predict” crime before it happens. Both Presidents Biden and Trump have pushed for greater use of these predictive programs to combat gun violence in communities, despite the fact that found they have not been found to reduce gun violence or increase community safety.

The rationale behind this fusion of widespread surveillance, behavior prediction technologies, data mining, precognitive technology, and neighborhood and family snitch programs is purportedly to enable the government takes preemptive steps to combat crime (or whatever the government has chosen to outlaw at any given time).

This is precrime, straight out of the realm of dystopian science fiction movies such as Minority Report, which aims to prevent crimes before they happen, but in fact, it’s just another means of getting the citizenry in the government’s crosshairs in order to lock down the nation.

Even Social Services is getting in on the action, with computer algorithms attempting to predict which households might be guilty of child abuse and neglect.

All it takes is an AI bot flagging a household for potential neglect for a family to be investigated, found guilty and the children placed in foster care.

Mind you, potential neglect can include everything from inadequate housing to poor hygiene, but is different from physical or sexual abuse.

According to an investigative report by the Associated Press, once incidents of potential neglect are reported to a child protection hotline, the reports are run through a screening process that pulls together “personal data collected from birth, Medicaid, substance abuse, mental health, jail and probation records, among other government data sets.” The algorithm then calculates the child’s potential risk and assigns a score of 1 to 20 to predict the risk that a child will be placed in foster care in the two years after they are investigated. “The higher the number, the greater the risk. Social workers then use their discretion to decide whether to investigate.”

Other predictive models being used across the country strive to “assess a child’s risk for death and severe injury, whether children should be placed in foster care and if so, where.”

Incredibly, there’s no way for a family to know if AI predictive technology was responsible for their being targeted, investigated and separated from their children. As the AP notes, “Families and their attorneys can never be sure of the algorithm’s role in their lives either because they aren’t allowed to know the scores.”

One thing we do know, however, is that the system disproportionately targets poor, black families for intervention, disruption and possibly displacement, because much of the data being used is gleaned from lower income and minority communities.

The technology is also far from infallible. In one county alone, a technical glitch presented social workers with the wrong scores, either underestimating or overestimating a child’s risk.

Yet fallible or not, AI predictive screening program is being used widely across the country by government agencies to surveil and target families for investigation. The fallout of this over surveillance, according to Aysha Schomburg, the associate commissioner of the U.S. Children’s Bureau, is “mass family separation.”

The impact of these kinds of AI predictive tools is being felt in almost every area of life.

Under the pretext of helping overwhelmed government agencies work more efficiently, AI predictive and surveillance technologies are being used to classify, segregate and flag the populace with little concern for privacy rights or due process.

All of this sorting, sifting and calculating is being done swiftly, secretly and incessantly with the help of AI technology and a surveillance state that monitors your every move.

Where this becomes particularly dangerous is when the government takes preemptive steps to combat crime or abuse, or whatever the government has chosen to outlaw at any given time.

In this way, government agents—with the help of automated eyes and ears, a growing arsenal of high-tech software, hardware and techniques, government propaganda urging Americans to turn into spies and snitches, as well as social media and behavior sensing software—are spinning a sticky spider-web of threat assessments, behavioral sensing warnings, flagged “words,” and “suspicious” activity reports aimed at snaring potential enemies of the state.

Are you a military veteran suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder? Have you expressed controversial, despondent or angry views on social media? Do you associate with people who have criminal records or subscribe to conspiracy theories? Were you seen looking angry at the grocery store? Is your appearance unkempt in public? Has your driving been erratic? Did the previous occupants of your home have any run-ins with police?

All of these details and more are being used by AI technology to create a profile of you that will impact your dealings with government.

It’s the American police state rolled up into one oppressive pre-crime and pre-thought crime package, and the end result is the death of due process.

In a nutshell, due process was intended as a bulwark against government abuses. Due process prohibits the government of depriving anyone of “Life, Liberty, and Property” without first ensuring that an individual’s rights have been recognized and respected and that they have been given the opportunity to know the charges against them and defend against those charges.

With the advent of government-funded AI predictive policing programs that surveil and flag someone as a potential threat to be investigated and treated as dangerous, there can be no assurance of due process: you have already been turned into a suspect.

To disentangle yourself from the fallout of such a threat assessment, the burden of proof rests on you to prove your innocence.

You see the problem?

It used to be that every person had the right to be assumed innocent until proven guilty, and the burden of proof rested with one’s accusers. That assumption of innocence has since been turned on its head by a surveillance state that renders us all suspects and overcriminalization which renders us all potentially guilty of some wrongdoing or other.

Combine predictive AI technology with surveillance and overcriminalization, then add militarized police crashing through doors in the middle of the night to serve a routine warrant, and you’ll be lucky to escape with your life.

Yet be warned: once you get snagged by a surveillance camera, flagged by an AI predictive screening program, and placed on a government watch list—whether it’s a watch list for child neglect, a mental health watch list, a dissident watch list, a terrorist watch list, or a red flag gun watch list—there’s no clear-cut way to get off, whether or not you should actually be on there.

You will be tracked wherever you go, flagged as a potential threat and dealt with accordingly.

If you’re not scared yet, you should be.

We’ve made it too easy for the government to identify, label, target, defuse and detain anyone it views as a potential threat for a variety of reasons that run the gamut from mental illness to having a military background to challenging its authority to just being on the government’s list of persona non grata.

As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair Diaries, you don’t even have to be a dissident to get flagged by the government for surveillance, censorship and detention.

All you really need to be is a citizen of the American police state.

Constitutional attorney and author John W. Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute. His book Battlefield America: The War on the American People (SelectBooks, 2015) is available online at www.amazon.com. Whitehead can be contacted at [email protected]

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Human values
Human values
May 18, 2022 9:02 PM

People are really stupid if they think machines are smarter and more intelligent than them. There is nothing smart in the so called smartphone or a smart-tv. They are machines! And there’s nothing intelligent in the AI. Machines can’t have intelligence which means the ability to think, reason, and understand instead of doing things automatically or by instinct. Machines are not even alive.  

Sideshow
Sideshow
May 15, 2022 10:45 AM

Our system thinks you might be a robot!
We’re really sorry about this, but it’s getting harder and harder to tell the difference between humans and bots these days.
Please complete the captcha below to prove you’re a human and proceed to the page you’re trying to reach

Ort
Ort
May 15, 2022 7:17 PM
Reply to  Sideshow

Ironically, most CAPTCHA traps are reprehensibly dehumanizing mind-fucks.

Otherwise: I normally don’t post advertisements, but I admit that I identify so deeply with the victim in this scenario that the ad transcends the commercial pitch; FWIW, I don’t have a motor vehicle to insure so the product being hawked is irrelevant. 

I don’t know if the ad is “successful” in boosting sales, but for me it’s deliciously funny and endearing because it’s so true: 

formerslave
formerslave
May 16, 2022 8:20 AM
Reply to  Ort

The irony of this is that captchas can be defeated by sophisticated bot. And any part that needs a human to solve can be sent out to a pool of human labor that just solves captchas all day long and the result sent back to the bot to complete the task.

formerslave
formerslave
May 16, 2022 7:25 AM
Reply to  Sideshow

Actually captchas can be easily defeated with bots that would either defeat the captcha themselves, or be sourced out to freelance humans who can solve it and send the answer back. But the entire process can be wrapped up into a single bot API that can be called as needed. So high level web scraping of sites like Amazon can be accomplished with stuff like this.
@Ort

Edwige
Edwige
May 15, 2022 10:25 AM

Funny how despite all this surveillance these mass shooters keep getting through….

Funny how this mass shooter “killed” a number of Occult significnce (13 being ‘Death’ in Tarot)….

Funny how the mass shooters went away during Covid (despite wanting to take out as many people as possible, and usually wanting to die themselves, they were still scared of that “lethal pathogen”!)….

Funny how this mass shooting serves not just the gun control agenda but racial division too….

Definitely one for the coincidence theorists!

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
May 15, 2022 8:52 AM

After identifying a threat, perhaps there will not be a need to send the police crashing doors so often ….. as algorithms can be developed to deliver ‘justice’ over the internet/mobile networks. Here is a 10 y.o. girl who was killed during a TikTok blackout challenge.

So, the potential exists to ‘fix’ people remotely.

Theobalt
Theobalt
May 15, 2022 10:31 AM
Reply to  GR-Watch

Is it normal that I don’t see a link?

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
May 16, 2022 1:54 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

https://lawandcrime.com/lawsuit/tiktok-sued-in-federal-court-after-10-year-old-girl-dies-from-viral-blackout-challenge/

there are plenty of links to this incident. it seems there are a couple more deaths from this challenge.

mgeo
mgeo
May 15, 2022 8:03 AM

The megalomaniacal aims of current research on the subject include
:- Monitoring surreptitiously, e.g., through (a) a medical device (b) a mobile phone; an inaudible sound in a TV advertisement may trigger it to relay ambient sounds (c) laser vibrometry. 
:- Comandeering mobile phones.
:- Increasing the variety of information collected on each person, as determined by a technocrat, bureaucrat, politician or new law.
:- Monitoring a vast urban area from drones or airships.
:- Determining the veracity of statements from changes in voice, heartbeat, temperature, general appearance, expression or micro-expression.
:- Spotting imminent crime, purportedly from behaviours such as running, waving arms and sweating – despite common sense dictating that a serious criminal would avoid attracting attention thus.
:- Predicting the actions of every person and organisation in the world.
:- Discerning (“reading”) thoughts.

Some of this is likely to be quackery [James Corbett 2012]. However, the principal aim remains profiteering, whether from spying or fake research [Shoshana Zuboff 2019]
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COVIDsteria eBook
May 15, 2022 6:02 AM

You might like these excerpts from “COVIDsteria: An Oral History of America’s Great Reset”:
THE PURGE: Jason, African American Anti-Swabbing Activist and Quarantine Camp Survivor (no partial paywall)https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/covidsteria-purge-quarantine-camp-survivor

THE PURGE: Clark Fickerberg, Former Social Media Company Founder & Camp David Conference Attendeehttps://covidsteria.substack.com/p/covidsteria-purge-social-media

Cynicon Implant
Cynicon Implant
May 15, 2022 3:37 AM

I wonder if the AI can predict how likely it is that a cop or Social Services person will be shot if they come to arrest someone or take a child based on pre-crimes. Seems like that would be a good thing to do.

Penelope
Penelope
May 15, 2022 1:53 AM

I’m seeing something that’s really disturbing me, but it’s just 3 cases, so maybe it’s meaningless: I’ve recently been around 3 babies ranging from 8 – 10 months. It happens they were all girls. What I find absolutely disquieting is that they make not a sound– no cooing, no babbling, no “mamama”– nothing. They cry rarely and are serene.

But this silence is unlike my experience of babies. I read an article recently which said babies during covid are talking later. At the time I thought maybe it was due to the child’s being in utero when her Mom got vaxxed. Or could they have changed the “usual” baby vaxxes so that there’s something even worse in them? All babies in the US are given a hepatitis shot as newborns– before they leave the hospital.

Please tell me of your recent experience w babies.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 15, 2022 2:47 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Maybe their parents are masked? Reading the face is crucial in language development.

Penelope
Penelope
May 15, 2022 7:51 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Tom,
Thx for answering. None of the families are masked at home & all are extremely attentive to the babies, talking & talking to them. The babes are decently alert, tracking things w their eyes– but just so passive. The babes rarely leave home w anybody & so wd rarely have seen a mask.

Maybe I’m just imagining things but I have a bad feeling about this.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 14, 2022 11:10 PM

These computer programs are specifically designed to be inaccurate. They all feature the Ferguson Factor- the exaggeration of what the client wishes to overstate. Really computers are unnecessary, they’re just useful as a convenient excuse. The infamous ± year plans of communist dictators were all designed to fail because the real purpose was chaos and depopulation. (Probably fascist ones as well but I’ve not heard of them and anyway I can’t tell the difference) Being a natural scavenger, I noticed how- when “recycling” was introduced- less stuff got reused than when it was just something people did. I wondered if it was just the natural deleterious effect of government but now I feel that it’s deliberate, probably to make the great reset look necessary.

fxgrube
fxgrube
May 16, 2022 1:00 AM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Less stuff got reused because of PLASTIC. It soon became ubiquitous once recycling was introduced.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 16, 2022 10:47 AM
Reply to  fxgrube

Yeah, good point. Glass bottles stopped being REUSED and joined the recycle club using up lots of industrial energy. Rather like those black clad lycra louts hurtling round the roads!

Annie
Annie
May 14, 2022 10:53 PM

Just stop!!!Stop looking for the solution when you are the solution.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
May 16, 2022 10:50 AM
Reply to  Annie

Right Annie, living your own life is the answer.

niko
niko
May 14, 2022 10:04 PM

Predictive policing of crimes in the streets, not in the suites, converges with other security pretexts like authenticating identity online and within the internet of bodies/things. Manufactured controversy and problems like Musk/Twitter versus DHS ‘disinformation governance’ uses free speech as a Trojan horse for maneuvering people into the mutually satisfactory solution of digital IDs, and eventual control grids like CBDCs and social credit. It’s all for our safety on a prison planet.

Bob - Enough
Bob - Enough
May 14, 2022 8:53 PM

Oh bllx. I am in trouble then. Ah-well.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 14, 2022 8:36 PM

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Annie
Annie
May 14, 2022 8:28 PM

And don’t go oh liberals are moaning vaxxers are angry left right,It’s all bs to keep us devided we need to step up our game or it’ll be checkmate.

Annie
Annie
May 14, 2022 8:21 PM

We all know the rich of the richest want to keep pillaging they have no care for us.We are dispensable to them we are cattle to them,But we are golden to each other that’s all we got each other.We all know by now we are in the killing fields that this is the worst atrocity that they have ever done to fellow human beings?!!!Think about Moses setting the slaves free now think what they are doing to us now no comparison if we don’t rise up we are doomed.

moneycircus
moneycircus
May 14, 2022 7:10 PM

I’ve been flying since 1963 (often on the VC10, back then – to my mind the greatest passenger jet) and by the early 1990s found myself on a watch list. Pulled over on every flight (I was going every other month to Manhattan to see my fiance).

My crime? No idea. I was a reporter for Sky News at the time.

It got to the point where I would walk up to security (this was long before TSA and security theatre) and present myself for questioning.They couldn’t have put the blame on algorithms then, either.

It’s not algorithms. It’s lists of people “we don’t like.”

In short, this is nothing new. Like fusion doctrine, it is at least 50 years old and just being rolled out to the wider population.

My latest singing bowl: https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/eurasia-note-50-war-with-russia-would

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
May 14, 2022 6:58 PM

The problem isn’t so much the data collection and reduction algorithms as organizations blindly obeying their output scores. There was a story a week or so back in our newspaper about the Los Angeles County’s Child Protective Services software that they use to ‘score’ children at risk. Quite apart from the way it seemed to systematically score black children at higher risk than white ones it was apparently right only somewhat less than half the time. Or, to put it another way, it was about as selective as a random number generator. However, despite the obvious problems both the software vendor and the management (who would have approved its purchase) have faith in it (because, let’s face it, faith is what you need to believe in something that you don’t have a clue how it works but need to recognize as all powerful).

Time and again we see vendors promising algorithms that take complex situations (and their associated data) and boil it down to some type of score. This might suit a vendor’s business model — especially as these algorithms, being ‘proprietary’, are necessarily secret — but time and again they’re seem to fall short. The only time they seem to work is in credit scoring and that’s because they’re part of the feedback loop, the self fulfilling prophecy.

Another way we see algorithms consistently producing the wrong answers is in our everyday interactions on the Internet. Advertising on the Internet has become a rich ecosystem where collectors and aggregators of data work with brokers to sell ‘eyes’ to advertisers. It doesn’t take a genius to see how irrelevant the majority of these advertisements are but the ecosystem has to believe to thrive. Meanwhile, where there’s a self fulfilling component as described by Frances Haugen’s revelations on how Facebook maintains cultural bubbles you can see a sinister side to this — the money’s in fear and division, maintaining groups of people in fear of ‘the other’. Divide and rule, the oldest tactic in the book.

Edith
Edith
May 15, 2022 5:07 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

i always get total bemusement from the ads which are pitched to me for a product after I have bought it….I sincerely doubt anyone much buys 2 or3 of anything but they go on for weeks trying to get me to do just that….and somewhere all this is factored into the price of what one does buy.,painful

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
May 15, 2022 10:49 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

“Faith is what you need to believe in something that you don’t have a clue how it works but need to recognize as all powerful…”

Hmmm, sounds so familiar.

Annie
Annie
May 14, 2022 6:57 PM

We all know what’s going on what they intend to do you are scaremongering sometimes offgaurdian.We all know we all know what to do sometimes your a scaremonger,Are you with us or are trying to scare the living daylights out of us?!?Calm down.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
May 14, 2022 7:26 PM
Reply to  Annie

It’s not just scaremongering Annie. A lot of these articles are not only published here for this audience. Many of them could be used to sway those who still believe the lie. Although I will admit, I don’t send articles like this anymore to my friends who still believe the lie, mostly because I know they refuse to read them! They’ll read the headline, dismiss it as fear mongering or hysteria, and go on back about their lives, ignoring the oncoming train.

As for the fear they generate, you’re right, we already KNOW what our owners have planned for us. Maybe the point isn’t so much to be fearful of it anymore, at least for those of us out here who’ve faced what is coming, but to find subtle ways to resist it? That whole “thinking outside the box” thing works in so many ways, and we need all the tools we can get to resist these psychopathic savages. And really, all we can control at the end of the day is our own reactions to the fear mongering. I won’t claim that’s easy, many times I react in full fear and anger mode, but I’m trying to work on that. Trying not to let these savages take any more from me than they already have.

And you’re not alone either Annie. While this forum may not be perfect, at least we do still have a place to express the fear and take away some of its power. I’m not real sure there’s much more we really can do, and for now, I’ll use it to try to keep calm. If I did not have this place to read every day, my anger and fear would be far worse than it is now.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 15, 2022 1:51 AM
Reply to  Annie

Actually, OffG downplays it quite a lot. I have been put high on their list, for a number of reasons not entirely related to anything I have ever said or done, or even thought (not that all those issues haven’t developed well apace, as well!) for quite some time, decades.

I made a memo years ago to study it in greater depth. I put it off until after Y2K, simply because I thought it would do more harm than good. When I did study it, bingo, I found that my attorney father had been tied closely to some very “sensitive” and gnarly government “projects” since before I was born. Just that alone put me on a watchlist since the cradle, before it, in the womb! (I have the original of a letter, somewhere, with the holes of the typewriter showing around the full stops, periods, on the manual typewriter (1952) from the Dean of Harvard Law School, saying that I would be admitted to enrollment there, when I was of age, provided etc. etc.)

(I can attest now than when I was in teen classes at a local military school that there were shocking incidents where “the cat was out of the bag” and either faculty or students had “leaked” things we planned before we did them, and I just assumed that some snitch had ratted us out. But in fact the level of audio surveillance, etc., was already quite high and quite pervasive back in the 1960s, even before. They simply played their hand, with everyone, “close to the vest”. The Nazis who ran the show here, in USA Inc., that is, back to Reinhard Gehlen and his networks starting in 1947. Truman said later, “I would never have agreed to the formulation of CIA back in ’47, if I had known then that it would become the American Gestapo.” Before I got deeper into seriously studying it, thirty or more years later, maybe about 10 years ago, I simply though old Harry S. was simply using a figure of speech to drive home his warning. But he meant quite literally: The American Gestapo. I have continued to speak and write about it, and they have continued to send agents out to quiz me, about things, ever since. (I don’t know where it all derives, but my father’s prominence in their plans is a big clue.) Actually, they were doing that periodically 50 years ago, but I only really picked up on it when I had a meal on a cross-country train, Amtrak, in 2000 and later realized that the “guests” sharing my four seater in the diner, didn’t join me at table by accident, though the porter (Black) would seem to indicate that it was just an innocent meeting, no strings, no priors. As the lunch banter progressed, I noticed the husband, my senior by maybe ten or twenty years, had a good French accent, he said he had lawyering concerns in Paris. And I am one of maybe 10 males born here that I’ve ever met who speaks the language more than “faire sembler”. I asked him if he knew my father, who I had recently found out, 8 months prior, and twenty years post-facto, had been whacked and had not committed suicide, and I asked him if he knew him, and was shocked to hear “No” baldly. But after I told him the whole crime scene, wondering why he didn’t know more about it if he practiced corporate law near LAX, his wife, silent til then, cut in and said that he, her husband Pat A., had actually lectured for my father (ecjlaw.com) at USC for his annual National Tax Institute (now “The Gould Institute” blah blah) for many years. When I complained that they had set me up, he simply said, “Well, I wanted to hear you version of events, and if I had told you I already knew…” etc etc. Plausible deniability. In any case, this was in the middle of the New Mexico desert as we rattled over the desert tracks (not all that far from Alamogordo and the Los Alamos of Oppenheimer, come to think of it, ironically) and it was about then that I knew they really had my number, and were going to keep a grip on it. Two hours later, after stretching my legs, I reclaimed my seat and found my carry on had been pilfered of my prize $500 gadget for my digital piano, which I had kept close to me out of its smallness and my fondness, and my absentee ballot was gone too, three days before the 2000 Gore/Bush electoral meltdown. I hate when that happens! Just a message sent that they, like all American bullies, young or old, could punk me whenever they wanted. That’s always been absolutely de rigueur here, though they had tried it much less often, and much better mannered, when I lived in Paris and London in the mid-’70s. Perhaps that’s why Oscar Wilde, when asked where good Americans went when they died, replied, “Why, they go to Paris!”

OffG, and related sites of like interests, are downplaying the issue, but like many, like me, like those most in the crosshairs, ideologically, have seen enough and feel it’s time, no doubt, that people begin to get hip to the real problems involved, whatever the “collateral damage”. However the chips may fall. I even told my late mother about 20 years ago, five years before she died in her 90s, a good long ride, that I was going to be open about these things, writing about them, talking on radio, speaking to people, and not to be surprised or at all grieved if I was “taken out” or rubbed out, since that was quite possible, and I did receive a number of death threats, warnings, attempts, over the years, and the whole enchilada (we’re near the Mexican border). That’s just the cold truth, unfortunately. I mean, it’s just the cold truth that we are overrun by moles, plants, counterfeits, black ops, and operatives, more than the Reich overran Buenos Aires in the 1930s.

Most of the younger people I talk to about these things, lots, accept all the implications with equanimity, because they realize the keepers of the keys have been gonzo for quite some time. As did I at their age, say fifty years ago, but with somewhat different reasons, and little insight into how and why and so on.

Although I’m not much of a fan, it reminds me of what Mel Gibson said years ago when he made “Passion of the Christ” (which I haven’t seen, yet, preferring Pasolini or Scorsese on such weighty unglamorous subjects). Someone asked him as it was being filmed “Geez, Mel, couldn’t you tone down some of those scenes just a little?” And he, shocked, said, “What do you mean, I really did tone them down?”

I think that’s fair. And in this case, the fact remains that, whatever the level of surveillance and intrusion, and it is way more than most people would suspect, we are still plotting our course and living our lives. We still can go forward on a darkening path.

People need to begin to understand, more spiritually than literally, that we are not primarily in control of our lives anyway, never have been, that there is Someone far above us who looks after all those matters, and surely welcomes our timely and worthy participation!

The great blessing of these times is that as we are all being directed towards a sort of technological bottleneck, where many will realize more and more that solutions are not of our own making, although we participate, and not at all entirely of our own “choice”. As the Apostle said so absolutely, “In God alone do we live.” In God “we live, and move, and have our being.” All the rest is so transient, so flotsam and jetsam, even at its “best” in the worldly senses.

If we take away only that and that alone, we will be very consoled despite it all. I know that I am, though it ain’t always easy. Not by a long “shot”.

(And I know full well that it’s even questionable if my posts are posted for all to see, and if there hasn’t been some razzle, dazzle, screen-splitting, hocus pocus, mirroring, now you see it, now you don’t, since the Web is patrolled by a big Spider, and it was devised by DARPA as a purely “defensive” weapon, in its entirety and intent. What we say and “do” here all comes with a big heads up! Just sayin’)

New Oz
New Oz
May 14, 2022 6:38 PM

“Is your appearance unkempt in public? Has your driving been erratic? Did the previous occupants of your home have any run-ins with police?”

“are you not attending bible studies?”, the mullahs in canberra wants to [email protected]

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 15, 2022 2:45 AM
Reply to  New Oz

So many modern proliferations of “bible studies” have been wildly skewed, tampered, contaminated. That’s why I hold to the main established churches. be they Catholic or otherwise. At least there you nay find more reliable continuity of doctrine and practice.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 14, 2022 5:31 PM

Friedman quote is a fitting reminder of life pre 1990’s per se imo, the things to come past present future mean what exactly. The news ie: Musk puts deal on hold, US him/hers don’t have baby milk powder??
Digital is Artificial Intelligence they cant be any other explanation.

Edwige
Edwige
May 14, 2022 5:28 PM

The Vanderbilts have asked us round for tea… and Satanism:

https://twitter.com/_whitneywebb/status/1525197416252592128

The sort who should be flagged as a threat – but somehow I suspect rich Occulted psychopaths aren’t who this is going to be aimed at.

script
script
May 14, 2022 5:14 PM

it isnt new. fear porn peddled as new- Your credit score via a telephone or interview application for loan or a mortgage even working for banks or certain company’s will use references credit score companys/ agencys.
for xample. Equifax, Experian.

In the EU & U.K 35+ years ago you was getting psychometric tests to see what job would suit you be useful for you.

Back in the 50’s redline areas where considered high risk in some cases a no go for loans. (Still in effect today)

In civilized England in 2022 thoses on welfare or in receipt of disability allowance even U.C or low income is often refused housing in the private sector as NO Dole no HB excepted– even though a few courts cases for discrimination was won.
IT is still very much policy within the Estate Agency’s which is little bit higher than no blacks no irish no dog policy.

Computer says no- isnt new and Mr whitehead earns 500.000$ per year so he wont have that many issues as he isnt saying anything new or threatening.

Fake moan to show off to his Chablis drinking online pals.

Blind Gill
Blind Gill
May 14, 2022 7:13 PM
Reply to  script

😆😆😆

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 14, 2022 5:06 PM

Start a new company: “Fascism R’ US”. Sell surveillance toys and hand-held mirrors…

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
May 14, 2022 4:27 PM

A straight white male American citizen, that is.

duke
duke
May 14, 2022 4:23 PM

Get off the computer. Get off the smartphone. Get out of banking. Get out of debt. Exit the matrix. None of their prison system works if you don’t opt in. You don’t need to be afraid. You need to CHOOSE.

Choose wisely. And avoid fear porn masquerading as “resistance” (what this site has become).

Blind Gill
Blind Gill
May 14, 2022 7:14 PM
Reply to  duke

Very well said.

Max
Max
May 14, 2022 9:13 PM
Reply to  duke

👍

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
May 14, 2022 9:23 PM
Reply to  duke

Exactly
Unfortunately it is already too late for many.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
May 15, 2022 1:09 AM
Reply to  duke

And the device you wrote your post on was?

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 15, 2022 3:04 AM
Reply to  duke

Well, yes. But don’t ignore their Panopticon. Unfortunately it’s real. Ubiquity.

wardropper
wardropper
May 14, 2022 2:52 PM

Being scared is now old hat.
Working on a better society with principles and enforceable regulation against corruption is our current goal.

Needless to say, if we rely exclusively upon new college graduates in economics to solve ALL our societal problems, we’re sunk.

Max
Max
May 14, 2022 9:14 PM
Reply to  wardropper

👍

Howard
Howard
May 14, 2022 1:30 PM

If – and OMG what a big IF – people ever come to realize that technology CANNOT be used for anything but evil, then all this crap will stop. I’m sick and tired of people piddling around trying to separate the “good” technology from the “bad” technology: THERE IS NO GOOD TECHNOLOGY!!!!! There is no technology that has absolutely no potential for evil.

And that’s the bottom line: humans will ALWAYS use what they have for evil. ALWAYS!

Lawrence Wolf
Lawrence Wolf
May 14, 2022 1:14 PM

Words, words, words, just meaningless words. You don’t win battles or wars with words. You need something capable of taking the ENEMY physically apart – http://www.nwo4ep.com

wardropper
wardropper
May 14, 2022 2:58 PM
Reply to  Lawrence Wolf

That’s all very well, but if you want to be taken seriously, you can’t have a website which spells “anonymity” like this:
“Ananimity”…
It betrays inadequate education, and borderline risks people not having any idea what you’re talking about.

Howard
Howard
May 14, 2022 3:26 PM
Reply to  Lawrence Wolf

Words may not win battles but they alone can keep battles from escalating.

Yes, when words are empty slogans sliding from the mouths of those intent on harming others; or merely repetition of nonsense overheard on some medium – then they are incapable of anything constructive.

But when they articulate ideas which can benefit living entities, their worth is incalculable. Never underestimate “the power of the pen.”

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 14, 2022 6:12 PM
Reply to  Howard

Or, as Churchill noted. “Diplomacy is the fine art of telling the other fellow to go to hell in such a way that he looks forward to the trip.”

All the same, if it’s done with words and not bombs, you have yourself a successful Peace Mission.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 14, 2022 8:49 PM
Reply to  Howard

Pen can also have catastrophic revisionist results, one need only research historical original dismissing beyong that reproduction as retrospectively revising by whom for who regarding what actually.
A request for a dictated signed draft forwarded on for debate that day may no longer have significance other than multiple Copies.
No longer A. Original B. Reproduction the Copy is now of greater significance to less individual entities. By degrees of omission no longer a copy, reproduction and far beyond the verbal dictated signed draft.
Question:…
Regarding What?
What you are quoting written down isn’t the Original requested Draft.

Is that teaching available today? The significance of it is recognised as irrelevant, the Original may or not still exist The revision certainly does, why?

It’s Obvious. But not Real History.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
May 14, 2022 12:19 PM

I don’t see how you can be allowed to take action against people using technological algorithms as the primary basis for action, without defenders of those people being allowed to test whether such algorithms are actually worth a dime or not.

It should be very clear that civil disorder should take place to right that situation, up to and including causing physical damage to state prostitutes who use them without sharing the data.

Shift ‘potential neglect’ toward ‘promise of violent adverse outcomes’ and you’ll soon see the state prostitutes change their tune.

The deal should be simple: you can’t use AI predictive algorithms secretly without us being allowed to smash your skulls in using old-fashioned pre-internet baseball bats.

Don’t negotiate reasonably with these Deep States. Negotiate entirely UNreasonably.

Target the owners of this software with violence. When they have been violently assaulted for charging high prices for useless s
oftware, they will have been taught a very, very valuable lesson. Corruption and grift have consequences….

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 14, 2022 5:03 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Hello Rhys Jaggar: The public should consider the alleged performance of a modern car for comparison. The inherent failings of AI technology are written all over the place.

“Smart” electronics in modern cars are a bad joke looking for somewhere to pull over. Ask any auto mechanic how “smart” automotive technology is… Exotic and complex designs translate to less and less reliability and practicality. Cars have become plastic toys for mentally challenged persons who are (apparently) unable to park next to a curb…

Software engineers make great targets…

mgeo
mgeo
May 15, 2022 7:49 AM

The program/algorithm/AI logic may be inspired by the social sciences. AI training (a) uses large datasets, the content being determined culturally, and some of it acquired illegally (b) takes up a huge amount of electricity.

So, you can see how subjective this matter is. Yet, it is already affecting the public in employment, sentencing, medicine, etc.

Here as elsewhere, the motives include the ‘higher-ups” wanting to reduce their dependence on others.

Ort
Ort
May 14, 2022 7:54 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

I don’t see how you can be allowed to take action against people using technological algorithms as the primary basis for action, without defenders of those people being allowed to test whether such algorithms are actually worth a dime or not.
__________________________________________

Quite true, and I agree– but this is obsolescent Old World thinking, aka “rationality”. “Old World”, meaning the Old Normal that nominally existed before much of the planet’s human population fell or was pushed Through the Looking-Glass into the present surrealistic, dystopian New Abnormal.

It may just be my anti-scamdemic monomania talking, but when I read that entirely reasonable sentence, I immediately thought of the principal artifacts of the perpetual Megadeath Virus of Doom Scamdemic: PCR “tests”, masks, and the pseudo-vaccine jabs.

In both a general and narrowly legal sense, official rules, procedures, and practices arising from or incorporating all of these dodgy and fraudulent “remedies” have been oppressing and taking adverse action against innocent people. Like the flashy new AI “tools”, the authorities either implicitly or explicitly pronounce them worthy– i.e., legitimate and effective as “advertised”.

There has been some effective political and judicial pushback. But once the officially-touted dubious remedies are deemed worthwhile and forthwith implemented, they acquire a momentum and inertia that is difficult to reduce, much less reverse.

So early attempts to challenge and appropriately discredit fraudulent and pernicious technological pseudo-solutions are typically deflected by limiting or forbidding reasonable and logical counter-analysis. 

Thus, a judge or comparable trier of fact will simply establish ground rules to the effect that “this court will not consider arguments pertaining to the effectiveness of the [masks, PCR tests, vaccines, algorithms]” on the grounds that the proceeding need only consider the narrow(er) issue of X.” The artificially, and often capriciously, narrowed issue “X” varies, but typically is legalistic.

For instance, in a mandatory-mask policy related lawsuit earlier this year in which the plaintiff sought to require a school district to re-impose a rescinded mandatory mask mandate under the Americans With Disabilities Act, the judge stated at the outset that the question of the masks’ effectiveness was simply not at issue.

In excluding evidence and arguments challenging the effectiveness of masks, the judge reasoned that the narrow legal question was whether the ADA could properly be cited as a basis to re-impose the mandate.

Alas! When the Red Queen is reincarnated as the authoritarian zeitgeist, there is little interest in dilatory arguments questioning the validity of the prosecutors’ evidence.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 15, 2022 12:43 AM
Reply to  Ort

RE: But once the officially-touted dubious remedies are deemed worthwhile and forthwith implemented, they acquire a momentum and inertia that is difficult to reduce, much less reverse.So early attempts to challenge and appropriately discredit fraudulent and pernicious technological pseudo-solutions are typically deflected by limiting or forbidding reasonable and logical counter-analysis.

Now that is an important statement! In fact it is a great descriptor of the history of vaccines themselves going back to Jenner who’s research was found to shoddy and his conclusions pure quackery in his own time (which form the basic justification for vaccines).

For a great history see: Dissolving Illusions: Vaccines, Disease and the Forgotten History.

Edwige
Edwige
May 14, 2022 11:03 AM

US education is gathering so-called SEL (Social and Emotional Learning) metrics on children in schools and building a dossier on every student. Information from facial expressions to heart rate and blood pressure can be gathered. This data-mining does not enjoy the protections of medical data. It’s purely to help, of course!

There is however nothing specifically US about all this. From UNESCO in 2014:
“Artificial intelligence will attain the level of natural intellect and in a number of cases will surpass it. Machine-human hybrids, cyborgs and humanoid robot-ndroids created on a biological basis will become more and more widespread. Also becoming more widespread are the ideas that technological intervention in the human organism, fundamental changes in the nature of man, are desirable and beneficial in that they enable a biological evolution which is truly controlled. Some call this world view transhumanism and some technological fascism. Either way, our future lies more and more in the hands of new engineers, genetic scientists and programmers”.

As UNESCO’s founding charter was written by Julian (brother of Aldous) Huxley who coined the term “transhumanism” this shouldn’t be surprising.

Howard
Howard
May 14, 2022 3:32 PM
Reply to  Edwige

they enable a biological evolution which is truly controlled

If ever there were “famous last words,” these are them. They prove positively that UNESCO has completely lost touch with reality.

“Today we will control evolution. Tomorrow we will tweak Sagittarius A.”

(Sagittarius A is the supermassive black hole supposedly at the center of the Milky Way.)

script
script
May 14, 2022 10:39 AM

season 2 of Devils series has all the hallmarks of research scouts checking out blogs and placing them in scripts.
a Julian Assange character arrested and in prison now helping the good banks(USA/UK) which has some morals to stop baddies bank run by China getting it hands on the contact tracing app as they will use it for evil.
5G init. Bitcoin. Italy U.k USA best trading teams and a group of hacktivists take on the evil East.
its a propaganda puke fest.

Koba
Koba
May 14, 2022 10:35 AM

“Kit Knightley i am arresting you for the future off-guardian post you’re about to make”
it is going to be just like that shite film

Nigel Watson
Nigel Watson
May 14, 2022 10:26 AM

Correct, they’re also using #inflation & the so-called ‘war’ in Ukraine as part of their #HegalianDialectic games 

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 14, 2022 10:42 PM
Reply to  Nigel Watson

Everything Corporation militaristic fashion sloping down to more and more of less and less. It’s soo much like an automatic transmission it’s uncanny. Racing cars have a reset button maybe that’s it.
Corporate Clowns are soo predictable they can’t help themselves showing off slowing down.
Lazy people love their automatic on cruise control. Sitting here watching cars go by, masked drivers lol! nope gone.
Ban Automatic and Cruise control then drivers will have to learn to drive a car.
I’am for it, anyone else?
Come on safe, do something good for once.
Hurry up, solar panel bubble cars are coming, and they charge You for Sunlight.
Clever, aren’t They?

script
script
May 14, 2022 10:24 AM

I visited some gardens this week and the previous owners who gave the house to the trust had respiratory issues and had to move to another part of the world due to the climate.
brand spanking new billboards informed the visitors of this, that even in the 1800’s respiratory and the climate was a issue but its so much worse now.
Very subtle programming.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
May 14, 2022 1:07 PM
Reply to  script

to be fair, i could use a more sunny clime.

dude
dude
May 14, 2022 10:20 AM

Most of us were probably flagged years ago lol

Nigel Watson
Nigel Watson
May 14, 2022 10:27 AM
Reply to  dude

Amazing how many people still think that the government wants to help them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt4zvaTYd3c&t=46s

Tomoola Sitchin
Tomoola Sitchin
May 14, 2022 11:42 AM
Reply to  Nigel Watson

You just can’t fix the terminally stupid.

Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Fugazi Shoe-gazy
May 14, 2022 12:36 PM
Reply to  dude

Lol I’ve been saying if I’m not on Palantirs dissident list or w/e I’d be kinda offended.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
May 14, 2022 7:44 PM
Reply to  dude

For sure.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 17, 2022 4:17 AM
Reply to  dude

I was flagged in the womb. And earmarked. Not alone, but still unusual for 1951. Seriously, a fact. My poor mother.

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
May 14, 2022 10:18 AM

I think this demonstrates more the malevolence of the law enforcement agencies than anything else.

For the example above the person driving the car would have had no shot residue on them so there was clearly no evidence. And as the article says he was not charged. The police work to targets so the driver was the obvious and easiest target so became their person of interest.

I’m not denying the direction of travel but with any case it has to follow the evidence and the law.

If you’re not scared yet, you should be‘ – that is the overall message I took from this article.

Why do you want us to be scared?

Paul _too
Paul _too
May 14, 2022 3:42 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

He was charged. You appear to have missed the part about the year he spent in jail waiting for the charges to be dropped…..

“Consider the case of Michael Williams, who spent almost a year in jail for a crime he didn’t commit.”

Howard
Howard
May 14, 2022 5:24 PM
Reply to  Paul _too

Unfortunately, many inner city people spend time in jail without ever being charged with anything. They get caught up in the system; are brought before a judge; have a bail set – even for a traffic ticket; and are carted off to jail until they can put up the bail.

Or they might be “held” as a potential witness. The whole idea is to confiscate what little they have (“civil forfeiture”) – and dole it out to the police, who have an interest in arresting as many people as they can.

One absolute truth of human society is that when corruption begins, if it is not stopped, it will continue growing until it consumes everything.

susetta
susetta
May 16, 2022 12:35 AM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

Jesus was wrong #1 – Nothing will be impossible for you with a little faith

“Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.” Matthew 17:20

Is this true in your experience?
Common sense, logic and life experience contradicts this obviously untrue assertion.

ME: This is NOT wrong, this is actually true. Jesus never performed any miracles with regards to cures, per sea. The miracles were performed by the persons who were themselves healed (remember, that he always asked them first, if they believed, that they had to believe for the miracle to take hold). The only thing that Jesus did, was help facilitate it, because the souls of the persons that “were healed” no longer remembered the power that each of them had, and that, by the same token, we all have – well, the power, that we all have access to, to be more precise, — namely, that of changing “reality”; meaning, that of changing/rewriting the Earth Life Simulation through each of our consciousnesses, since most of us, are actually, self-learning programs. But that power can only be accessed/activated, if one claims or wills it to manifest itself with conviction, – that is, believes in the thought of its execution, before it is “called” to be executed. So, the miracles were actually performed by the “believers”, themselves, in truly believing the potentiality of their healing being able to manifest in “the real world”. This has been discovered by the military industrial complex and the upper echelons of this “world’s elites”, and it has been used, unknown to most of us, through Hollywood, and now, through, drills towards false-flag operations, and, lately, social media, to “birth onto the world”, events that are propitious to their agendas, in order to formulate the design/mold of a future they desire, and, by the way, which will be deleterious to most of us. Their latest manufactured event has been this Covid Pandemic, as part of it, has actually, been manifested in “actual disease” in the human race, simply, by virtue of humanity believing in its existence proper, – so, the placebo effect can work both ways, towards the positive, and as well, towards the negative, – that is, towards the presence or absence of something positive or negative! I know that this sounds astoundingly unbelievable, but I can stake my life right now, on the truth of what I am here revealing, – you can kill me now, should you be able to prove this otherwise, and I would relieve you from any responsibility, whatsoever. This is, partly, by the way, why I have stopped viewing films many years ago, because, I do not wish to lend my energy of consciousness to the manifestation of any of its contents, as I do not wish to be used, for the benefit of the those who are actually conspiring towards the destruction of most of the human race. This is also, by the way, why they, the powers-that-be, wish to envelop the human race with another “layer of shrouding”, through various technological means of controlling the human mind, so that the humans that may be awakening to their true power, will either forget more deeply their true nature, or make the possibility towards accessing of this power, incredibly more, impossible.

Jesus was wrong #2 – Prayers aren’t answered
Jesus says a lot about prayer, and he makes big claims for it, as if it was a magical one way telephone line to God.
Jesus replied,“Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.” Matthew 21:21-22
“Whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours” Mark 11:24

“I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son. You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it” John 14:13-14

But this is contradicted by experience. Millions of Christians pray to Jesus every day for things and don’t get them.

ME: Jesus was right again. Prayers are SELF SUGGESTIONS in SELF RE-PROGRAMMING, towards THE MANIFESTATION of a PARTICULAR GOAL. The better this is done, the more effective the re-programming, and thereby, the more possible the manifestation of the goals embedded in those prayers. If the prayers “are not answered” is because of a defect in the design and execution of the processes by those doing the praying. It could also be, that other higher level beings of good or negative will have negated their execution, for more important reasons, and toward the aim of more encompassing purposes involving the Earth Life Simulation’s design. We live in a simulation which is part of a stack of encapsulated simulations. Ours, the Earth Life Simulation, is the 7th, and is able to be affected and manipulated by all those above it, but most principally, by those from the one that gave it birth, – the 6th one. So, those beings with access to our Earth Life Simulation, occupying the 6th one, can have higher privileged access to modifying it, and supersede whatever changes our very well executed “prayers” might demand.

susetta
susetta
May 16, 2022 1:01 AM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

MORAL of the STORY:

Be careful WHAT BELIEF you give your energy to, as you, in conjunction with the many others of similar mind, will be able to birth it onto the Earth Life Simulation (“existence”), and so be mindful of those, who fully well knowing of this secret of “life”, will use you along many others, without informed consent, toward birthing “realities” you would not wish to see, and under which, you would not wish to live, and that, therefore, are antagonistic to your interests. Only because the writer is writing an article in a site you believe to emulate your world-view, does not mean that he/she has your world-view. The weapons that shall be used against you, shall be numerous, sophisticated, layered, and ubiquitous. Watch out!

Johnny
Johnny
May 14, 2022 10:16 AM

A comprehensive article on the Scamdemic here, with more than 120 footnotes:
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/31/left-covid-lockdowns-mind-autopsy/

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 14, 2022 11:58 PM
Reply to  Johnny

This is a very good article. Christian Parenti essentially outlines the same “counter narrative” that Off-G has for the last 2+ years (although crucially important Off-G did it in real time). Not that the term has much meaning anymore, but I would have argued that Parenti (as well has his father Michael) and the Grayzone represented the real left, not the fake left of Progressives, the Squad, the Nation, Democracy Now!, Noam Chomsky, Naomi Klein, Jacobin and the DSA. The term left is so corrupted now that its continued usefulness is questionable. The Left today has become the speartip of the Great Reset. Post 2020, the Left has become the popular face of 21st Century fascism.

NickM
NickM
May 14, 2022 9:06 AM

“Legislation against potential threats is beloved by government because everything can be a potential threat” — GK Chesterton, Fancies versus Fads, 1923.

“A government fad is more likely to take her child away from a poor mother than to relieve her poverty” — GKC, ibid.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 14, 2022 10:20 AM
Reply to  NickM

I never thought to find another double quote of GKC outside one of my own threads, but they, and certain readers, certainly are deserving. In keeping with those two, I offer another I’m considering as a tat for these times (perhaps not verbatim but close enough),

“We have learned how to do a great many clever things, and unless I’m greatly mistaken, we will have to unlearn how to do them.” Hear, hear.

NickM
NickM
May 14, 2022 2:50 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Interesting that word “unlearning”. I learned recently that Buddhism regards unlearning as a stage toward right thinking.

Over the past 60 years or so (and especially over the past 30) my voting in the old public debates between GBS vs GKC (which both enjoyed in exhibition bouts of vigorous but civilized disagreement) has moved from the former to the latter. Though both men were widely popular proponents of socialism, Chesterton now seems to have had a more prophetic grasp of “What is Wrong with the World”. CKC was prophetic both in the religious sense and in the sense of being able to identify some burgeoning evils of the early 20th century (such as Technocracy, Medicalisation, Anglo Zio Capitalism, and Fascism) which were bound to bring down a punishment onto the heads of future generations.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 14, 2022 7:27 PM
Reply to  NickM

I’ve been reading Chesterton for precisely 50 years, having 1st been astounded that he had so much to say, so much too that re-directed my neurotic though often avid thoughtfulness about many things, and equally many times just as off course as it was avid! Truly enough, even though I would not brand our/my world as simply Chestertonian, he was always penetratingly “prophetic” about so many of the current evils, that he does due dilgence as a constant guide, rarely erring. He saw what monsters of today might come from their larval stage of 100 years ago, such as USA ad culture (he hinted at gestations of mind control, and that has truly become our biggest problem).

Surely we both are not alone in being drawn from GBS to GKC as influences developed. I think GBS himself may have been on that path, calling GKC “a colossal genius”. His other debate ‘exhibition bout’ rival or “contender” for the xxxx-large title belt Chesterton wore, was the formidable HG Wells, who was overheard at the former’s funeral saying touchingly, “It may be his prayers alone that can get me into Heaven.’

High marks from his two greatest rivals. And the highly regarded French Thomist intellectual Étienne Gilson even called him “One of the deepest minds of all time.”

Like St. Thérèse de Lisieux, anyone who is fortunate, or blessed, to catch on to the stunning simplicity of their respective genius will be grateful to have their lights to navigate these ever more stormy waters of our “modern” times, as suggested by this deep advice of his:

“We men and women are all in the same boat, upon a stormy sea. We owe each other a terrible and tragic loyalty.”

Owe? Yes, that’s the Gospel command, there.

And both Thèrèse and Gilbert speak every word they sound out “religiously” from that command, and its basis in the gospel of “poverty”.

And Mercy. He wrote that the world itself made its rounds through space “suspended by the slenderest thread of God’s Mercy” and added the poetic touch (a trait admired even by one of his most relentless atheist critics, Christopher Hitchens) “as if a censer swung on a chain by an acolyte.”

And the Roman Church recognized their wisdom by making Thérèse, who didn’t survive to see her 25th birthday, only the 3rd woman “Doctor of the Church Universal”. And GKC currently has a Cause in progress for his sainthood. Who knows, he may one day be the 1st “lay theologian” in Her 2,000 year history to join the rolls of the 30-something Doctors of the Church! Not at all unlikely.

After all, both Franciscan and Dominican scholars form a consensus in saying he has written the two greatest books about their respective Saints.

The topic here on this thread, of course, is unrelentingly ourselves, though, as designated threats, and his insights bear upon that odd conundrum. He wrote over 100 books, by the time of his early departure at 62, and all of his political and economic analysis trended toward warnings of the coming storms. A prophetic tone, put gingerly but firmly, in “What I Saw in America” (most of his books. like that, are free online. but I recently got my own copy of that for its penetrating current relevance, though a century past).

He wrote that it has been Capitalism, not Communism, that has torn apart the family in our age.

That is so key an indictment.

£4£&$4$+my2¢~~~~~

Having been astonished by Chesterton all too often since I was 19, and then “converted” by him, or at least he put it in progress, it was a thrill to find this maxim the other day that had never as yet been seen:

“Humour slips under the door while seriousness is still fumbling with the keys!”

HA! No wonder Wells observed the power of his prayers!

“Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly.” ~”ibid”

NickM
NickM
May 14, 2022 7:36 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

“We men and women are all in the same boat, upon a stormy sea. We owe each other a terrible and tragic loyalty.”

Thank you for that.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 15, 2022 3:07 AM
Reply to  NickM

My privilege…

And his intent was a far cry, for real, from the Davos crowd”s “We are all in this together.”

Like “Day and night” in intent, huh?

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 14, 2022 8:11 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Small erratum: now that I think of it, the image of the orbiting world as a censer of incense swung on chain by an acolyte was from a poem by the amazing poet Francis Thompson (“The Hound of Heaven”) whom Chesterton was praising in a riveting critique. GKC was like Bach: he would take someone else’s riff and transform it into something even more riveting.

(By definition, an erratum can not be off topic. So, there.)

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 14, 2022 10:31 AM
Reply to  NickM

I found this, but I think it’s truncated also:

“We are learning to do a great many clever things. The next task will be to learn not to do them.” -GKC

(He greatly inhabited simpler and more innocent times: “The bad men of St. Francis’ times were better than the good men of today “)

Fractured aphorisms abound now, too.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 14, 2022 7:52 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

[Nota Bene: I offer “quotes” that a search will result in sourcing the “exact” quote -I find a lot of them are, ahem, “variants’. But at least not variant viruses. It’s in that respect I don’t want to proliferate such. And it’s amusing to find that the author himself, GKC, as a frequent public intellectual and early BBC debater, and prolifically so, would make the same points orally more than once in nearly identical wording. So that complicates the variants. Such mere Murk. Oy.]

George Mc
George Mc
May 14, 2022 8:57 AM

Off topic but …

What looks like a doorway on Mars has been discovererd.

https://news.sky.com/story/nasa-picture-of-mars-appears-to-show-a-doorway-carved-into-the-rock-heres-how-it-was-made-12611936

Every media channel leaps in with articles which could all have been from the same source. “Conspiracy theorists” think it’s artificial but it’s not. Why “conspiracy theorists”? Is it that the media is trying to head off suspicions that the dreary uniformity of the media reaction was the result of some central organisation?

And note again the mood of this reaction: a mass stifled yawn: “Nothing to see here. Move along now.” Once again trying to convince everyone that it’s all so dull!

But all of this clearly centralised movement is reminiscent of the theological debates of the church. Whatever you do, don’t let the people get ideas of their own! 

George Mc
George Mc
May 14, 2022 9:19 AM
Reply to  George Mc

According to one theory, Devon Island in Canada is the place where they really film the “Mars” footage.

In which case, it’s a double/triple bluff thing and my reaction previously is exactly what they wanted. Fiendish!

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 14, 2022 10:04 AM
Reply to  George Mc

An awful lot of ‘news’ is now pure psychological programming. Showing a pic of a clearly manufactured ‘doorway’ (those recurring right angles can’t be natural) and then asking people to disbelieve their own intuitive knowledge and accept the ‘official’ story is pure programming.

The whole door thing could well be fake and the story planted purely for this purpose. Certainly if the “door” was real NASA could easily completely suppress the info if they wanted. No reason to publish anything about it unless it’s serving another purpose.

George Mc
George Mc
May 14, 2022 3:27 PM

The aliens (as in from outer space) fixation could very well be part of that Mighty Wurlitzer thing. My mum is a fan of these programmes – of which there are many on the TV channels. “The X Files” made a big issue out of it thus consolidating the “conspiracist as geek” meme and making it slick and trendy and therefore a “pop phenomenon”. And of course there’s Mr Icke whose often very good analyses are somewhat discredited by the extraterrestrial reptile stuff.

Ort
Ort
May 14, 2022 7:10 PM

Somehow this reminds me of E.B. White’s eerie short story, “The Door“.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 15, 2022 12:08 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Mars “doors” now? Back in the 1990’s Richard C. Hoagland made a career off the speculation of Mars “faces.”

Johnny
Johnny
May 14, 2022 11:25 AM
Reply to  George Mc

‘Doorway’ in rock hey?
Conspiracies hey?
Allow me to cogitate on that_ _ _ _ _(sound of ticking clock).
I’ve got it!
It’s where they put Jesus body!(Closer to heaven you see).
Nah. That’s a tad far fetched.
It’s where Bin Laden and his cronies hung out!
Nah. Too far from Mecca.
I’ve got it!
Aladdin’s cave!
Nah. Fairy tale stuff.
I’ve got it!
It’s a prospecting shaft for one of those rape and pillage mining behemoths.
Yeah. That’s gotta be it!

wardropper
wardropper
May 14, 2022 3:08 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I can make pictures like that in my humble computer.
It means nothing.
I’ll bet the height of the doorway is just over 2 metres too, so that the average human can easily walk right in…

martin
martin
May 14, 2022 4:38 PM
Reply to  wardropper

It’s probably where the Chinchillas live.

rememberingmonkey
rememberingmonkey
May 15, 2022 12:20 AM
Reply to  martin

No. Tribbles.

If we’re going to be damned, let’s be damned for what we really are.
— Jean-Luc Picard

MBJ
MBJ
May 14, 2022 4:44 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Doorway on Mars = opportunity for “the science” to show its omniscience.

Arch-dill weed Brian Cox (in the UK), will have smugly explained this to the normies.

Materialists putting out the sandbags before the ontological flood.

George Mc
George Mc
May 14, 2022 8:54 AM

Apps to detect crime to take their place amidst all the other labour saving apps? Just as useless as purely software driven computer training courses – which can be passed purely by going round the choice sections and taking a note of the wrong choices till you eventually get them right. And learning precisely nothing in the process.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
May 14, 2022 8:27 AM

The walls are rapidly closing in and the boiling frogs remain oblivious to the temperature rising..

Willem
Willem
May 14, 2022 6:51 AM

If AI is the same intelligence as the intelligence that sends ‘personalized messages’ to my spam box, can ‘test’ motor oil positive for sarscov2, or sends comments into ‘pending’ at OffG, the only thing one needs to fear about is the unintelligent or complete random process of the algorithm that lies behind it.

Jacques
Jacques
May 14, 2022 6:13 AM

Finding oneself wrongly accused is nothing new under the Sun, as depicted for example in Milan Kundera’s La Plaisanterie. Myself, I’m probably doomed already because I’ve said too many times that Turdo is a fucking asshole, and so is Jabcinda, Macaron, and all them other fucking assholes, y compris Boris Johnson with his disfigured body that looks like a bag of shit, immeasurably worse than that of Bill Gates, which is something because even Joe Rogan says that Bill Gates looks like shit, and the duo of cretins presently occupying the White House. So, if they grab me tomorrow and I disappear forever, it’s been nice knowing you.

That notwithstanding, I read this article yesterday, as well as other texts on that website, which complement nicely other stuff about energy I’ve read before and essentially coincide with what I generally think. Mind you, some of the ideas expressed in there will sure be deemed blasphemous by the OffG crowd.

Anyway, it made me think about Turdo and his kowtowing remark about Chinese totalitarianism. It’s like this. Civilization is at a point where we’ve painted ourselves into a corner by adopting self-destructive economic policies and pursuing a way of life that is not sustainable due to the physical nature of our habitat. Moreover, people have grown entitled to the present-day luxurious lifestyle, unable and unwilling to accept not only that there might be less of the same, but that things will actually get worse or much worse.

The Turd and the other shitheads must be well aware of all this. But rather than exposing the problem to the public as per the above article, initiating a broad debate, and looking collectively for solutions, they are imposing totalitarianism with a view to protecting a privileged class of people who will supposedly be those benefiting from most of the reduced amount of energy and consequently resources in the future.

They’re pulling wool over people’s eyes, using bullshit like fake viruses and fake wars and who knows what else, which is terribly wrong because the underlying issues do exist and do need to be addressed. But people are not that stupid, and enough of them can see through the virus bullshit and the war bullshit, and they correctly reject it. Unfortunately, in doing so, they throw out the baby with the bathwater and reject or ignore everything else too, thinking that the status quo can be maintained.

OffG published a text that exposes what is really going on in the world. I think that the issue goes even deeper than that. OffG’s analysis looks at things from the societal angle, but the issue really is a physical thermodynamic predicament. There indeed might be the prospect of extinction on the horizon – not because of the bullshit reasons peddled by the fanatic woke idiots, but because of the inherent flaws in our way of life.

Like it or not, slow down we must.

Willem
Willem
May 15, 2022 8:34 AM
Reply to  Jacques

This comment and the article you refer to are interesting. Since I didn’t know the website where you found the article and believe that others may find it interesting too, I added copy-pasted the link of the article from your comment to my comment.

https://un-denial.com/2016/06/27/what-would-a-wise-society-do/

Johnny
Johnny
May 14, 2022 6:12 AM

A couple of months old but still relevant:
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/03/16/diana-johnstone-for-washington-war-never-ends/
Frank Lambert’s comments and links to WW2 are also significant.

Johnny
Johnny
May 14, 2022 5:44 AM

It’s already happened in Australia.
‘MyGov.au’ has most of that information already.
Tax records, health records, social security records, passport details, licenses etc.
Phone records are easily obtainable, along with any criminal records and your shopping history via credit card purchases.
The only thing they don’t know is when we last had a shit.
As for our voting preferences they couldn’t give a shit. Tweedledum or Tweedledee.

antitermite
antitermite
May 14, 2022 5:41 AM

This shit is getting real when home-schooling is categorised as deviant behaviour

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10647397/Four-people-killed-fifth-seriously-hurt-jumping-apartment-Switzerland.html

les online
les online
May 14, 2022 6:41 AM
Reply to  antitermite

Rule One: Dont drink the water…

Orthus
Orthus
May 14, 2022 9:04 AM
Reply to  antitermite

In Switzerland all behaviour is deviant unless expressly permitted in the penal code.

And a compulsory register will be set up in the UK (announced in the Queen’s Speech this week). (Due to Covid, allegedly.)

Sean Veeda
Sean Veeda
May 14, 2022 4:29 PM
Reply to  antitermite

Well, we don’t want kids missing out on the latest ‘critical theory’ indoctrination, do we? And they must be given the opportunity to pick a gender for themselves.

SusanD
SusanD
May 14, 2022 5:08 AM

AI is one of the biggest lies of our time.

John Ervin
John Ervin
May 14, 2022 10:34 AM
Reply to  SusanD

Well, it’s suspect, but digitization has extended boundaries, that’s pretty clear.

les online
les online
May 14, 2022 4:30 AM

America’s full-spectrum decline…
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/05/no_author/840961-21/

‘The greatest need of our time is to clear out the enormous mass of mental and emotional rubbish that clutters our minds and makes all political and social life a mass illness. Without this housecleaning we cannot begin to see. Unless we see we cannot think. The purification must begin with the mass media.’…Confessions of a Guilty Bystander, by Thomas Morton (1968)…

‘The United States needs, for both domestic and foreign policy, Russia’s defeat in Ukraine.’

wardropper
wardropper
May 14, 2022 3:04 PM
Reply to  les online

“The page you requested does not exist or has moved.”

les online
les online
May 15, 2022 1:20 AM
Reply to  wardropper

My mistake.

https:www.lewrockwell.com/2022/05/no_author/840961-2/

les online
les online
May 15, 2022 1:25 AM
Reply to  les online

https//:www.lewrockwell.com/2022/05/no_author/840961-2/

les online
les online
May 15, 2022 1:37 AM
Reply to  wardropper

My second attempt had no errors yet…!
The original source of the article: Globalreach 12 May 2022;
https://www.globalreach.ca/america-full-spectrum-decline/5780033
by Richard Gale and Dr Gary Null…

wardropper
wardropper
May 15, 2022 2:04 PM
Reply to  les online

Nope.
The whole Safari/Google/Microsoft machinery doesn’t want me to see it.

les online
les online
May 16, 2022 1:48 AM
Reply to  wardropper

The post is by Richard Gale and Dr Gary Null, posted on Globalresearch 12 May 2022…
https:www.globalresearch.ca/america-full-spectrum-decline/5780033
reposted by lewrockwell:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/05/no_author/840961-2/

I made errors in typing the URLs: lewrockwell ends as 2/ not 22/…entered globalreach instead of globalresearch….However..
my PC underlined errors in the lewrockwell URL, and the globalresearch URL for this send – something it shouldnt be able to do !!
I’m able to access both posts by typing in their URLs… If no ,luck, then i suggest you try the same…
good luck !