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Ukraine: What comes next?

Jorge Capelán

Undoubtedly, as a Chinese philosopher would say, we are living in “interesting times”, that is, times of great change for all mankind.

Existentialist philosophers such as Sartre and Camus would be surprised if today they saw how references (at least in name) to the current of thought they formed almost 80 years ago are multiplying in the media.

More and more states and nations claim to face “existential” threats, and no wonder, because Russia has everything at stake, the West has everything at stake, and the world also has everything at stake.

In this text we try to go beyond the immediate and take a look at what would come after this great collision between the United States and Russia-China. We will try to give an answer to the question of what the new post-Western multipolar order would look like. But first, we will make some observations on the current situation regarding the war in Ukraine.

In recent days, at the World Economic Forum, some of the West’s deepest anxieties were aired. While the retired (and almost centenarian but not at all senile) imperial strategist Henry Kissinger warned that there are only weeks left to sit down at the negotiating table with Russia in order to avoid a war that would endanger “the balance of power in Europe”.

The top advisors of the puppet-president Volodymir Zelensky did not take a second to respond to Kissinger with a rude “go fuck yourself” and “dumb fuck”.

If Kissinger has been relegated to the group of dissident (but not decisively influential) voices within the empire, another thing can be said of George Soros.

The nonagenarian tycoon and prodigal political financier of US wars, launched at the Forum the lapidary warning that:

the best and perhaps the only way to preserve our civilization is to defeat Putin as soon as possible”

Soros’ words must be understood in their true sense.

Soros does not say “save humanity”, since that is the least important thing for the globalist elites who today command the “collective West”. He says “save our civilization”, that is, the only one that exists for them, which is the one that arose as a result of the genocide of the European colonization of the world 500 years ago.

The reaction of the West to the Russian special operation in Ukraine is such that World War III threatens to break out for real before it reaches Chinese territory directly. In Ukraine, Russia dared to answer NATO’s 30-year expansion to the East with weapons in hand and the West immediately felt threatened to death. Proof of its fragility, both in its material and ideological base.

Definitely, Western globalism is a senile phenomenon, with visible heads like those of Biden (79 years old), Klaus Schwab (84) and George Soros (90).

The desperation which can be seen in the spokesmen of globalism (Biden, NATO, the British, the European political class…) indicates that the West, under the aegis of globalism, ostentatiously disregarding Kissinger’s warnings, has no Plan B: its only plan is to establish the direct global dictatorship of its multinationals by reducing China and Russia.

As for Russia, they dream of returning it to the times of Yeltsin after the fall of the USSR, and as for China, of returning it to the times of the Opium Wars in the 19th century. Vain illusions of old imperial glories…

By now it is clear that emerging powers from the most varied latitudes are not willing to dance to Washington’s tune: India and China, followed by the rest of the BRICS dragging along large countries like Mexico and Argentina; almost all the major oil exporters; many countries rich in population and raw materials and even old allies of Washington like Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey are opposed on many points to the Western diktat of isolating Russia in order to bring it to its knees. On the contrary, they are positive and even actively participate in Russia’s policy of developing international trade outside the orbit of the dollar.

On the other hand, cracks are beginning to appear in Europe, which has not been able to implement the boycott of Russian oil and does not seem seriously determined to get rid of the Russian gas on which it depends.

The Old Continent is torn between a globalist ruling class (both political and media) and the reality of an anti-Russian war that is having the worst economic and social consequences for its own peoples.

More and more Europeans are beginning to understand that they cannot live in eternal war with Russia. However, following the globalist script of Wall Street and the City of London, Europe is jeopardizing its future as one of the poles of the emerging multipolarity.

Will its elites be able to change the rudder in time?

Three possible scenarios

Having made the above observations, and taking into account the permanent danger of a thermonuclear war, we can envision three major scenarios:

1. Victory of the West with “regime change” in Moscow and Beijing and imposition of a Western corporate dictatorship globally.

This would mean the end game and the imposition of the West’s depopulation agenda. A major nuclear conflagration will probably occur, and if it doesn’t, it would entail worldwide genocide anyway because of increased poverty and the destruction of the peasantry on a global scale. Good night.

2. Defeat of the West after a bloody conflagration, most likely with “tactical” nuclear weapons.

This scenario would lead to the slow and uncertain emergence of a new post-Western order. The prosperity of the human race is not assured, due to the material, environmental and social destruction of war.

3. Defeat of the West under less warlike conditions.

If the use of nuclear weapons can be avoided or limited, and if at the same time there is a broad process of disobedience to the “rules-based order” promoted by the West, the new post-Western order will be able to face the destiny of humanity with greater success.

In the latter scenario, there are two possibilities: The first is that the West, in the form of North America/Europe remains “one player among others”. The second (and more likely) possibility is that both North America and Europe will be relegated to second place given the serious danger of a civil war in the United States and the consequences of anti-Russian sanctions for Western, especially European, economies.

The new post-western order (some observations)

The new post-Western order has to emerge from facts, it cannot be a product of a desk or a pact on board a warship like the famous Atlantic Charter signed by Churchill and Roosevelt in August 1941 and parodied 80 years later by Biden and Boris Johnson.

If in 1941 the British and American leaders agreed on many issues that came to define the post-war world, in 2021 they agreed to plunge together into the abyss of “après moi, le deluge”.

In the economic sphere, the new order must prioritize the real economy, subordinating finance to political power. Implement the logic of “win-win” and consensus. The new post-Western order whose foundations are now being laid needs, first and foremost, a new financial order.

This is imperative, and will certainly be characterized by the end of fiat currencies (i.e. currencies whose value is only backed by “market confidence”); an anchoring of currencies to gold and commodities and a plurality of currencies (“currency baskets”).

The new post-Western order will inherit a large number of conflicts unresolved by the old Western colonial order (from the Mapuche conflict in Chile to Palestine, Turkey, numerous conflicts in Africa, etc.). It will also inherit structural problems in access to resources, especially water.

It will also have to face a very serious socio-economic debt (for example, the lack of food, water and sanitation for large sectors of humanity) and the deficient Western production model inherited (for example, from a medical “industry” based on keeping populations sick in order to sell their products to them, to a food “industry” based on destroying the environment, destroying biodiversity and producing poor quality food).

Politically, the new order will have to be plural, since it will be composed of liberal democracies, theocracies, autocracies, etc., as well as countries of socialist, capitalist and other orientations.

The new post-Western order cannot emerge from the heirs of the League of Nations or the UN, since both were designed by the Western imperial powers. Neither the League of Nations nor the UN ever cared for the rights of the weak. The UN is totally penetrated by Western interests (“civil society” of NGOs financed by Western countries, the model of “public-private partnerships” which in practice is a model of plundering the public sector, etc.).

These bodies are inefficient, as they prioritize voting over consensus and “rules” (tailor-made according to Western interests) over the solution of common problems.

We should not expect a “reform” of these organizations; they themselves will gradually lose relevance in the face of their inability to respond to the real problems of the world.

The new post-Western order should emerge from the current emerging multilateral mechanisms and others, such as CELAC, ASEAN, OPEC+, BRICS, etcetera. This order should be based on consensus, on the win-win logic, on the logic of respect for diversity and on problem-solving agendas rather than on normative conceptions of political systems, etc.

The great challenge: Changing the hegemony to decolonize the world.

Dismantling the unipolar empire is only the first step in liberating humanity from Western barbarism. Not only Latin America must be decolonized, but the whole world that was affected by European expansion from the 15th century onwards.

The concept of hegemony applies not only to political domination, but also to control over dominant ideas (cultural hegemony). Western hegemony does not disappear with the disappearance of the unipolar world in the same way that the influence of Rome did not cease with the fall of the Western Roman Empire.

Let us remember that the Catholic Church was the heir of Rome and has survived to the present day as one of the pillars of Western domination, both ideologically and materially-financially.

The heirs of Western hegemony are in turn three of the West’s great contributions to humanity: science and technology as formalized by the West; the Western conception of knowledge and related institutions such as the modern school, etc.; and the Western concept of development expressed in the ideology of modernity.

It is essential to decolonize these three structures to ensure that the Western empire does not survive after its political and economic collapse. It is essential to reformulate science, knowledge and the concept of development from the perspective of all humanity and not that of the West.

This does not mean rejecting those institutions and categories, but creatively reappropriating them by “resignifying” them, to use an expression in vogue.

For 150 years, a narrow imperial elite (Europe-United States), by both public and private means, has financed and organized the entire institutional network that at the planetary level decides what is worth studying, what questions to ask, what problems to solve and how to do it.

This has very palpable implications today, for example, in the question of pandemics and their impact; in the question of responses to crises of all kinds; in the challenges posed by Artificial Intelligence and Information and Communication Technologies.

The Western empire leaves us a world in which production is subordinated to speculative profit for the benefit of private monopolistic interests.

Thus, we inherit a medicine based on keeping us sick, an agro-industrial complex based on the destruction of the environment and the production of poor quality food, and information technologies that instead of liberating our potentialities isolate, spy and control us.

These are just a few examples of the barbarism inherited from the West.

The new post-Western order has the challenge of saving humanity for a long era of historical development or perish before the barbaric globalist holocaust.

Jorge Capelán is a journalist and author from Nicaragua, you can read more his work (in the original Spanish) here.

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Doubtful
Doubtful
Jun 24, 2022 7:58 AM

What is next..?
It seems never ending!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 19, 2022 4:38 AM

In contrast to the Greater Israel Project, I’m going to refer to this Ukraine plan as the “New Israel Project”. If Putin is “in on it”, which seems likely, the recruitment and deployment of useful-idiot neo-Nazis becomes just a ruse to justify the Russian invasion; and that invasion permits the land grab for the New Israel. Furthermore, this is all a business decision by the Ecumenical Holding Company. From a business perspective, it no longer makes sense to keep high-tech Israel in the Levant; and they are therefore relocating to Ukraine. They probably don’t care much about religious Israel. — https://web.archive.org/web/20141210000910/https:/www.voltairenet.org/article186164.html Wayne Madsen – Israel’s Secret Plan for “Second Israel” in Ukraine Voltaire Network December 8, 2014 The role of Jewish figures and that of the State of Israel in the Ukrainian crisis has not gone unnoticed considering that this community represents less than 1 percent of the population. However,… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 22, 2022 4:58 AM

More on Kolomoisky https://genius.com/Vladimir-putin-press-conference-on-the-situation-in-ukraine-annotated Press conference on the situation in Ukraine President Vladimir Putin of Russia takes questions from the Russian media on March 3, 2014, following Russian military action in Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula. Released: March 4, 2014 For example, Mr Kolomoisky was appointed Governor of Dnepropetrovsk. This is a unique crook. He even managed to cheat our oligarch Roman Abramovich two or three years ago. Scammed him, as our intellectuals like to say. They signed some deal, Abramovich transferred several billion dollars, while this guy never delivered and pocketed the money. When I asked him [Abramovich]: “Why did you do it?” he said: “I never thought this was possible.” I do not know, by the way, if he ever got his money back and if the deal was closed. But this really did happen a couple of years ago. And now this crook is appointed Governor of Dnepropetrovsk. No… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 16, 2022 4:55 PM

The “Nazification of Ukraine” Hoax When somebody is seen waving a Nazi flag in Ottawa, we have no problem calling it a hoax. Likewise, when some rent-a-mob marches with tiki-torches at Charlottesville or “storms” the Capitol; or when Al Qaeda or ISIS appear in a country which the Banksters have lined up for regime change. Though in these latter instances the mob will contain a large number of useful idiots; some of whom may happen to be locals rather than being bussed in specifically for the occasion. But for some reason we seem to accept without question the blatantly engineered narrative that the “Nazis” roaming Ukraine are “Ukrainian”; and that this is somehow organic. This despite the very obvious MI6-esque involvement and the Kitson-esque playbook being rolled out for the thousandth time. For the illusion to work, all that was required was the recycling of some WWII imagery; and some… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 8, 2022 6:28 PM

Red Ice TV present a bizarre dismal of Rolling Stone’s report on the pre-war, “nazification” hoax. Also, whereas in December 2014 Red Ice covered Wayne Madsen’s article regarding the New Israel project, they now appear to make no reference to it. — https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/putin-russia-ukraine-invasion-nazi-operation-1325817 March 23, 2022 Multiple sources tell Rolling Stone that a Ukrainian businessman offered payouts for a false flag operation aimed at bolstering Putin’s claim that Ukraine was a Nazi hotbed In the months before Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, an oligarch with Russian ties allegedly paid for locals to paint swastikas around Kharkiv, sources say. The effort, according to the sources, was part of a false flag operation to exaggerate Ukraine’s Nazi presence at a time when Putin was using it as a pretext for war. The alleged plot, according to multiple sources, involved Pavel Fuks, a real estate, banking, and oil magnate who, the sources claim,… Read more »

Leticia Brewer
Leticia Brewer
Jun 14, 2022 6:31 PM

This war is nothing but the same war that was going on since 2014. In a way the war being presented for mass consumption is fake. I still haven’t seen Russian troops in Ukraine

Sophie Johnson
Sophie Johnson
Jun 17, 2022 7:08 PM
Reply to  Leticia Brewer

 I still haven’t seen Russian troops in Ukraine.’

I take it you are in Ukraine, Leticia, but not in the Donbas?

paul
paul
Jun 14, 2022 11:29 AM

URGENT.

Mercenaries, Walter Mittys, Wannabe Rambos urgently required for exciting new combat related job opportunities. No experience necessary. Training and pay will not be given. Must supply own ammunition. British and neo Nazis especially welcome. Also tanks, field guns, trucks, missiles, any age and condition. All donations gratefully received. All baksheesh welcome.

Please reply to Mr. L. Ucifer, PO Box 666, Sieg Heil Boulevard, Kiev, Ukraine.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 13, 2022 5:32 PM

Does Khazaria count as “East” or “West”?

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Source:
Figure 2 The Kingdom of Khazaria
https://risingtidefoundation.net/2021/12/27/the-forgotten-jewish-christian-muslim-alliance-and-chinas-silk-road

fred
fred
Jun 14, 2022 6:02 PM

thanks for rising tide foundation.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 14, 2022 6:45 PM
Reply to  fred

It’s possible that Ehret is trying to raise a warning; or at least make the topic less of a third-rail issue. The Times of Israel article (see earlier posts) is mentioned in Global Research – but only once from what I’ve found. However, the Greater Israel project has been discussed and updated in several places – and this is at least as “conspiratorial”. My guess is that they’ve realised that the demographics will never be sufficient for the Greater Israel project, and they are therefore switching to the “reverse migration” to Ukraine. — https://www.globalresearch.ca/uncensored-history-who-were-khazars/5748292 Uncensored History: Who Were the Khazars? By Timothy Alexander Guzman Global Research, June 22, 2021 There is an unknown empire that is barely mentioned in western history books, education institutions, in the media or in Hollywood. The name is not mentioned anywhere especially in the West, and that is why most people never heard about it.… Read more »

LeZ
LeZ
Jun 13, 2022 2:52 PM

Actually not a Chinese aphorism and I used to live in China. A Western affectation.

Anyhow – this IS what will happen next with The Ukraine, as the poor Ukrainian people are sacrificed for the US-NATO-UK Proxy War to break up Russia. . .

https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-notes-the-long-proxy-war

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 13, 2022 12:56 PM

People do understand don’t they that the real-estate reshuffle is just a communitarian business operation? And nobody should worry since we’ll all own a share in the vast Ecumenical Holding Company!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communitarianism
Not to be confused with Communism or Communalism.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 13, 2022 2:53 PM

Venessa Beeley: Russia is by no means anymore a communist country. China to a large degree, particularly on its trading and economics side, uses whatever ideology suits it to achieve its aims, right. So all of these sort of anti-communist tropes are simply a weaponization of this term. The obvious internal inconsistency with this argument is that the CPP, following the above model, will advance whatever lie they need to in order to achieve their business aims. Moreover, they will commit whatever genocide they need to; including participation in the CURRENT genocide against Ukraine. — https://beeley.substack.com/p/exposing-the-nazi-connections-to She’s EXPOSING the truth in China, and they’re furious Redacted Conversation w Vanessa Beeley Jun 11, 2022 Redacted Vanessa Beeley is an independent journalist who is exposing the shocking propaganda around the Uigher oppression in China. You might be stunned to learn the truth you’ve never heard before. Clayton Morris sits down with Vanessa… Read more »

Arrays
Arrays
Jun 14, 2022 12:33 AM

Naaa Dugin laid out the new configuration. Dugin, Foundations of Eurasianism, 2015 http://archive.vn/PD0mc “An important aspect of the Eurasian worldview is an absolute denial of Western civilization. In the opinion of the Eurasians, the West with its ideology of liberalism is an absolute evil.” • Germany should be offered the de facto political dominance over most Protestant and Catholic states located within Central and Eastern Europe. Kaliningrad oblast could be given back to Germany. The book uses the term a “Moscow-Berlin axis“. [Note that this is the same aim as old German NazBols and modern Russian NazBols] • France should be encouraged to form a “Franco-German bloc” with Germany. Both countries have a “firm anti-Atlanticist tradition”. • United Kingdom should be cut off from Europe [Brexit] • Finland should be absorbed into Russia. Southern Finland will be combined with the Republic of Karelia and northern Finland will be “donated to… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 14, 2022 1:43 AM
Reply to  Arrays

I don’t know much about Dugin, but I hear his name cropping up quite often in regard to Putin. However, I’m leaning toward the view that Putin, Xi and Netanyahu (Bennett) are all puppets of the Rothschild network; and that they get instructions. The plan, as discussed below, is to relocate the high-tech branch of Israel to the five oblasts. The remainder of Israel will be allowed to wither on the vine – hence the jab programme.

Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporovsky, Kherson, Mykolaiv and Odessa oblasts.
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Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 23, 2022 1:55 PM
Reply to  Arrays

Naaa Dugin laid out the new configuration. I don’t know much about it, but the following appears to be a Dugin site. — https://www.geopolitika.ru/en/article/glory-khazaria Glory To The Khazaria! 21.06.2022 Ukraine Davor Slobodanovich Vuyachich Sou Wan “Glory to Ukraine!” – this infamous cry of Ukrainian neo-Nazis and other national chauvinists, extremists, and terrorists from Ukraine, a country that has been practically under NATO occupation since 2014, is a curse that from the hell itself, invoked the torrents of the most primitive and irrational hatred that humanity has ever had the opportunity to witness. At the same time, this notorious Ukrainian-Nazi slogan is a part of one of the biggest, most cunning, and most perfidious deceptions and scams in the history of modern civilization. What this slogan expresses – that megalomaniac idea of a Greater Ukraine, ethnically cleansed of Russians in the first place, but also of the Russian language and culture… Read more »

The Anti-Hip
The Anti-Hip
Jun 13, 2022 11:37 AM

“As for Russia, they dream of returning it to the times of Yeltsin after the fall of the USSR”

Say what??

Kalen
Kalen
Jun 12, 2022 10:35 PM

Putin on February 24, 2022 in his lengthy speech mentioned something critically important that many outside of Russia missed namely he declared fundamental shift in Russian historical position on 1939 Pact Ribbentrop Molotov calling it tragic appeasement policy and strategic blunder that endangered very existence of Russian nation.  Putin vowed that such appeasement of Nazis and their backers will not be allowed ever again to happen in Russia as fighting Nazis in Ukraine or elsewhere means fighting today still without nuclear weapons for Russian existence as a nation in the future.  And hence Russian intervention as Putin put it, is a preemptive move to destroy Ukrainian Nazism before it becomes dangerously powerful (like Nazis did between 1939 and 1941) by joining pro-fascist NATO alliance threatening the very existence of Russian nations. This is not about one Nazi Azov battalion or brigade this is about erasing ideology of Nazism as a a foundation… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 12, 2022 11:25 AM

Who was behind the Nazification of Ukraine?

Putin’s excuse for invading Ukraine is to “de-nazify”. But as reported by UnHerd, there was very little organic nazification. Hence, in order to de-nazify Ukraine, it first had to be nazified. That engineered nazification started in early 2014 with the Maidan massacre and coup. Shortly following that coup, the corporate media was in Ukraine producing nazi recruitment videos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Euromaidan

UnHerd: The truth about Neo-Nazis in Ukraine
Mar 15, 2022
When Putin launched his invasion of Ukraine it was under the guise of ‘denazifying’ the country. But are there really any Nazis in Ukraine? Or is this just a story spun by the Kremlin? Aris Roussinos joins Freddie Sayers to unpick this contentious topic and seek some insight into Ukraine’s far-Right factions.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 12, 2022 11:39 AM

This is a recruitment video. It also builds the narrative for the eventual “denazification”.

BBC Newsnight
Neo-Nazi threat in new Ukraine: NEWSNIGHT
Feb 28, 2014
BBC Newsnight’s Gabriel Gatehouse investigates the links between the new Ukrainian government and Neo-nazis

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 12, 2022 12:34 PM

Remember, Ukraine first had to be nazified in order to justify the Russian invasion. — The Israel Lobby Protects Neo-Nazis in Ukraine Nov 28, 2014 Based on “How the Israel Lobby Protected Ukrainian Neo-Nazis” by Max Blumenthal, AlterNet, 11/18/14. More on U.S. support of neo-Nazis in Ukraine: http://stpeteforpeace.org/ukraine.html Transcript: An amendment to the 2015 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) that would have forbidden US assistance, training and weapons to neo-Nazis and other extremists in Ukraine was dropped at the request of two of the largest Jewish pressure groups in the United States. Introduced by Democratic Representative John Conyers, the amendment would have explicitly barred those to have offered “praise or glorification of Nazism or its collaborators, including through the use of white supremacist, neo-Nazi, or other similar symbols” from receiving any form of support from the US Department of Defense. But the amendment was dumped after Congress faced pressure from… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 12, 2022 2:55 PM

Press TV: Zionism and Ukraine Mar 12, 2022 vanessa beeley Ukraine: The Zionist Connection Images from the war in Ukraine have dominated the headlines over the last few weeks. But the Jewish identity of Ukraine’s President Zelensky, has been used by many in the West, to cover NATO’s manifest alliance with Neo-Nazi battalions in the war against Russia. But it’s not just NATO that’s working with these Neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine. Israel is arming, and its military personnel are even fighting alongside explicitly Neo-Nazi units The Zionist regime has supplied arms to the Ukraine military including the Nazi Azov battalion which traces its antecedents to Nazi collaborators in the 1939-45 war. Azov Battalion members have been photographed toting Tavor rifles built by Israeli Military Industries a subsidiary of Elbit Systems. In February 2016 it was revealed that Elbit Systems would be part of a group investing in Ukraine’s defense establishment.… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 20, 2022 2:19 AM

This is a classic example of blowback. https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine February 22, 2019 Particularly concerning is Azov’s campaign to transform Ukraine into a hub for transnational white supremacy. The unit has recruited neo-Nazis from Germany, the UK, Brazil, Sweden, and America; last October, the FBI arrested four California white supremacists who had allegedly received training from Azov. This is a classic example of blowback: US support of radicals abroad ricocheting to hit America. — Ah yes; we’ve been here before! https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2005/jul/08/july7.development Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally “the database”, was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 12, 2022 5:29 AM

TruNews looks at the Times of Israel 2014 article: Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine https://rumble.com/vzvar4-moses-zelensky-muslim-scholar-says-zionists-will-relocate-israel-to-ukraine.html Moses Zelensky? Muslim Scholar Says Zionists Will Relocate Israel to Ukraine TruNews Could Ukraine become the New Israel? As wild as the idea sounds, we’re going to show you news articles that discuss that possibility. The world has entered the twilight zone and nothing can be ruled out as impossible. The TruNews team will show you what we found today. Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 4/5/22 — https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine Mar 18, 2014 Editor’s Note: This blog post is a work of satire. It was published in 2014 on the eve of Purim, a Jewish holiday that is celebrated with wild merrimaking and raucous comedy – with a particular emphasis on poking fun at antisemitism and ignorance. — Note; the… Read more »

Gary
Gary
Jun 11, 2022 9:06 PM

More pro-Russia, pro-China, Belt and Road-promoting from the Alt-Media. The script of Wall Street and City of London that the author mentions is the exact same script China, Russia and Israel are following. It’s a hell of a lot worse for humanity than whatever the US, Britain and the West in general have ever planned or acted out. If you think a multi polar order under Russia and China is the key to all our problems, I suggest visiting Russia or China to start with and perhaps reading some history as well. Start watching Brendon O’Connell on YouTube. Forget all this Dynalogy, Clearforce-promoted fawning.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 12, 2022 1:05 PM
Reply to  Gary

It was a couple of weeks ago through watching a Brendon O’Connell video (see below) that I first came across the relocation theory. There’s ample evidence to support the theory; and it seems to be the only credible explanation for the invasion and for the NATO support for the nazification. It’s all a giant setup in which ordinary Ukrainians get genocided!

Brendon O’Connell
133. Ukraine As The Israeli Wolfs Lair – Israel Panics
May 18, 2022

Alberto Dietz
Alberto Dietz
Jun 11, 2022 2:33 PM

Excellent article.

Inquisitive minds familiar with Tom DiLorenzo and Barbara Tuchman, for instance; would inevitably conclude that, had Tsar Alexander II abstained from backing despotic Lincoln’s unconstitutional War against a constitutionally seceding South, we would have been spared the emergence of a world hegemon.

A second opportunity was sadly missed when treasonous desk admirals in Madrid, conspiring behind the back of Queen Maria Cristina, who had from her own purse financed the project, refused to include in the Spanish fleet Isaac Peral’s fully operational submarine, which would have put an early end to (failed naval officer) Mahan’s dreams of grandeur.

Let that sink in.

Alberto Dietz
Alberto Dietz
Jun 11, 2022 2:03 PM

Had Tsar Alexander II abstained from backing despotic Abe in his UNCONSTITUTIONAL war against the CONSTITUTIONALLY seceding South, we would have been spared the emergence of a world hegemon.

A second opportunity was missed when treasonous desk admirals in Madrid refused to include in the Spanish fleet Isaac Peral’s fully operational submarine, which would have put an early end to Mahan’s dreams of grandeur.

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2022 7:37 PM

This from Tass (Yandex machine translation):
MOSCOW, June 10. /tass/.

“Up to 70 thousand Ukrainian military personnel may be in Slavyansk and its surrounding cities, said Deputy Minister of Information of the DPR Artem Olkhin on the air of the TV channel “Russia-1” on Friday.”

Hsuan
Hsuan
Jun 10, 2022 6:34 PM

Very few people have identified the real root of the problems we are facing. As Henry David Thoreau once wrote: “There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.” The problem is government. I think Prof Mattias Desmet’s theory of “mass formation psychosis,” as applied to the acceptance of government as a no-brainer, is the main source of our woes. The vast majority of people believe that we could not exist in a peaceful, productive society without it – or at least, things would be even worse. History has shown us that this is ridiculously far from the truth. Looking at the 20th century alone, we can see that just the 6 events of two world wars, the reigns of Stalin and Mao, and the Vietnam and Korean wars resulted in the deaths of at least 200 million people. This number… Read more »

lotuseater
lotuseater
Jun 11, 2022 4:40 AM
Reply to  Hsuan

As you say the root of the problem is not out there in the world, but in here in the human psyche…

Howard
Howard
Jun 11, 2022 3:12 PM
Reply to  Hsuan

I believe it goes much deeper than government. As “lotuseater” suggests, it’s in the human psyche. It’s not sufficient to say that the problem is people having been convinced they need government in order to survive. Rather, it is to thrive far more than simply to survive that people perceive government as necessary. This bug that’s gotten up humanity’s ass – the notion of “success” (which has reached its zenith in Western society) – fuels not merely the acceptance but the very existence of government. Striving to be Top Dog is built into the human psyche. Most would say that’s a good trait; a few would disagree. But there is absolutely no doubt whatever that that particular trait mandates government and goes on to insure its continuance. This, because the strivers – the achievers – want to insure their gains are protected. No one with any kind of bailiwick wishes… Read more »

Hsuan
Hsuan
Jun 11, 2022 7:14 PM
Reply to  Howard

Good point. When I said “Government is the problem” I should have qualified that statement, although I hinted at it in my last paragraph. There’s a dis-ease in people’s minds and most people believe that government can provide the “cure.”

Hsuan
Hsuan
Jun 11, 2022 8:58 PM
Reply to  Hsuan

One more note:

The quote below is from a book by Scott Bradley, The Indifference of Birds: Daily Reflections on the Philosophy of Zhuangzi. Zhuangzi (Chuang Tzu) was one of the two major figures of Daoist thought. The other was Lao Tzu who supposedly wrote the Dao De Jing (Tao Te Ching).

“Why would we wish to follow rather than to lead? Because, unless we are self-deceived, we know we can only lead ourselves, and that is a lonely experience. Why would we wish to believe in the already-fixed rather than to create anew? Because, unless we are delusional, we know that whatever we create is as ridiculously tenuous as we know ourselves to be. It’s so much easier and more comforting to abrogate responsibility to external authorities which somehow escape the scrutiny of doubt.”

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 12, 2022 4:33 PM
Reply to  Hsuan

When everyone is pretty much engaged in the same sort of thing (e.g. farming, raising barns and raising children), minimal government is feasible.

When you have a highly evolved, technologically advanced culture with the potential for genocidal weapons of mass destruction, you need a tighter hold on things, unfortunately.

When the principles of capitalism underpin arms sales of weapons of mass destruction, all hope for civilised debates ends.

That’s where we are right now, I’m afraid.

Thoreau was right for the 19th century, his time has passed in the 21st, I’m afraid.

Hsuan
Hsuan
Jun 17, 2022 5:43 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

I understand what you’re saying – but I have to question how highly evolved this culture really is. I guess I’m not ready to consign Thoreau to the dustbin of history.

There is great beauty in simplicity. Understanding this may be the first step in transforming our evolutionary path.

sandy
sandy
Jun 10, 2022 5:42 PM

Michael Hudson inside the US/NATO machinations to save the Western Overlord Dollar…

https://michael-hudson.com/2022/06/is-us-nato-with-wef-help-pushing-for-a-global-south-famine/

A Woodhull
A Woodhull
Jun 10, 2022 5:37 PM

James W. Douglass’s book “JFK and the Unspeakable” describes in amazing detail from FOIA documents the behind the scenes conflict between JFK and the Joint Chiefs (think Military Industrial Complex) and the CIA. JFK was using back channel means to communicate directly with Nikita Khruschev to avoid nuclear war during the Cuban missile crisis while the military and the spooks were trying to justify a preemptive nuclear strike against the USSR. Various scenarios were being tossed about regarding projected casualties on both sides. One estimate was that 30 to 40 million Americans would die while 140 million Russians would die. That was seen as far to many Americans, so another plan was hatched wherein only 12 million Americans would die, but still 140 million Russians. Much better! The point being, that those in power, those with the money and influence, those who feel they know better than everyone else what… Read more »

tigerfish
tigerfish
Jun 10, 2022 5:25 PM

THREE POSSIBLE SCENARIOS – if we were living in a Hollywood disaster movie. All seem highly unlikely in the real world.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 10, 2022 5:01 PM

Here it comes! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61758570 “Early signs that Covid may be rising in parts of the UK There are early signs of a possible increase in the number of people testing positive for Covid in England and Northern Ireland, officials from the Office for National Statistics say.” The little black marks may be rising! It is surely the most devastating horror ever to be visited on the West since the last most devastating horror! Black is black. I want my baby back. It’s grey, it’s grey since she went away, oh oh what can I do ’cause I-I-I-I-I, I’m feelin’ blue Their report suggests the small rise is likely to be driven by the BA.4, BA.5, UB40, 911, and 1812 Overture variants of the NecronOmicron strain. But you get the feeling their heart just isn’t in it anymore: “Studies show these variants may be able to spread slightly more easily than “older”… Read more »

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Jun 10, 2022 8:09 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Yes, I heard about this on the BBC Radio 4 news (which I almost only ever listen to in the car and as briefly as possible, usually) and thought: hello hello, here we go again, although, like you, I got to thinking that perhaps they were being just a bit desperate about it.

Occasionally, I will accidentally wander into the wrong sort of thread over on Twitter. Normally I only associate with Tweeters with whom I share a basic scepticism and cynicism over the whole Covibollocks, but a few times I’ve found myself among people who seriously and fully believe in the efficacy of masks and that only the unmasked get covid, for example. It must be like David Cameron or Jacob Grease Smug finding themselves suddenly in the middle of a vast council estate and being unable to find their way out.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 10, 2022 10:13 PM

I too have avoided the media as much as possible ever since the Dawn of Covid. Of course it’s impossible to do so completely. But recently there has been the oddest surges (to use their favourite word) and then almost instantaneous ebbs. Recall the abortion issue? Only just! The climate thing soared up and then evaporated. It feels like watching a juggler who doubles as a magician.

And I only visit a severely limited number of twitter feeds. The word “Twitter” sums them up. Even the good ones are often obscure and you feel you are listening into old friends who have a private code and it’s not for you.

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Jun 11, 2022 1:58 PM
Reply to  George Mc

My semi-addiction to Twitter is a worrying condition that I need to deal with, just as soon as I’ve cracked the weight issue…

But I can recommend one, all too neglected, account:

https://twitter.com/TheEyes2022

Doctor Dr McHonk-Honk
@TheEyes2022

He’s a much-needed laugh in a sad world.

Zane
Zane
Jun 10, 2022 10:44 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Variants Schmariants. Etc.

MLS
MLS
Jun 10, 2022 5:01 PM

Is no one atl going to find the guts to state the obvious? This is a token “war” to — a) give the impression there are genuine differences between the ruling elites and make people forget they just exposed themselves over covid as being one big club b) provide a smokescreen and excuse for the inflation, economic collapse and wholesale destruction of western society per the globalists openly declared grand plan When you take sides, wave flags or debate who will win you are being the tame idiots the elites think we all are, happily enjoying the latest reality TV show they put on for us. Has anyone seen the Russian army in Ukraine yet? No, not the DPR in clapped out COLD WAR tanks, so don’t bother posting about them, I mean the RUSSIAN ARMY. I haven’t seen much sign of em yet, and I’m watching carefully. Anyone notice… Read more »

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Jun 10, 2022 9:33 PM
Reply to  MLS

The New Atlas (Brian Berletic):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_I2av6GNYcc

Military Summary (Some guy in Belarus):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXLde0bjGUI

Why does it matter whether it is Russians or DPR/LPR forces that are pushing Ukraine forces out of Donbas? The latter are clearly on the retreat, as even the western MSM now sometimes grudgingly admits.

The MS guy always seems to refer to “The Russians”, but then English is not his first language, so it may just be a form of verbal shorthand.

And while I’m not an unreserved fan of Patrick Lancaster, here he is with what he says is Russian Artillery:

susan mullen
susan mullen
Jun 10, 2022 9:41 PM
Reply to  MLS

Russian troops aren’t allowed to take pictures. As a US citizen I very much identify with the Russian Federation. US elites have treated both of us like garbage for the past 3 decades. US exists only to destroy humanity, attempted to overthrow 57 countries from 1949-2014, violently overthrew Ukraine’s elected government in 2014. Someone has got to stop the US. Mr. Putin is the only person of consequence who is saying enough is enough. US elections are meaningless because the entire political class is on board with the US genocide machine to which all US taxpayers are enslaved.

Howard
Howard
Jun 11, 2022 4:53 PM
Reply to  susan mullen

As a US citizen also, I proudly say that no one is going to destroy the good old US of A. We are going to beat the whole rest of the world to the punch. We will proudly destroy ourselves, thank you very much!

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 10, 2022 4:52 PM

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-61753870

“Former US President Donald Trump orchestrated last year’s Capitol riot in an “attempted coup”, a congressional inquiry has heard as a hearing opened into the raid…. Mr Trump had “lit the flame of this attack”…. the riot endangered American democracy….

After almost a year of investigation, the Democratic-led US House of Representatives select committee opened on Thursday evening by showing clips from interviews it conducted with members of Mr Trump’s inner circle.

The timing was geared to reach huge evening TV audiences across the US.”

There’s no business like showbusiness!

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 10, 2022 5:09 PM
Reply to  George Mc

For once the WSWS asks a pertinent question:

The January 6 hearing: What took 18 months?

Because they know that you know that everyone knows the script was already complete before the “attempted coup” even took place – or didn’t, as the case may be.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 10, 2022 5:17 PM
Reply to  George Mc

And speaking of the Trotters, I’ve noticed that their comment section no longer features a tally of up and down votes. Could it be that the numbers are dwindling so embarrassingly that they are just cutting them out now?

Howard
Howard
Jun 11, 2022 4:56 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Don’t forget also: in 18 months the public forgets everything – so they’ll believe any nonsense. Especially if it’s shouted from the rooftops.

They say politics is the Art of Compromise. Not so: it’s the Art of Decibel Adjustment.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Jun 10, 2022 6:39 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Attempted coup. My God the idiocy. I am not a Trump supporter and never was, I no longer believe in any of them no matter which side of the artificial divide they sit on. But a coup? In what world? But Democrats are milking it for all it’s worth. And there are obviously more than enough dumb in this country to believe it was a real coup attempt….. Absolute idiocy but then that’s nothing new in Murka, is it?

FRAN
FRAN
Jun 10, 2022 4:37 PM

EXCELLENT ARTICLE!!! , IM SCARED BUT SPEECHLESS AND CERTAINLY AWAKENED TO A NEW REALITY , CHANGE IS CERTAINLY COMING WHICHEVER OF THOSE OUTCOMES EMERGES

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 10, 2022 3:35 PM

Toward an Ecumenical Alliance? https://risingtidefoundation.net/2021/12/27/the-forgotten-jewish-christian-muslim-alliance-and-chinas-silk-road Dialogue of Cultures, Geopolitics, History, Renaissance The Forgotten Jewish-Christian-Muslim Alliance and China’s Silk Road By Matthew Ehret December 27, 2021 Today, I would like to go a little deeper into the longer wave of history shaping our presently confused age by taking a look at the forgotten Jewish Kingdom of Khazaria (7-11th century CE). Taking the time to investigate this important part of world history is additionally important as China’s New Silk Road currently represents the greatest hope for peace amongst various faiths and cultures not only in the Middle East, but globally. This is not the first time that the Silk Road ushered in a hope for a new age of reason amongst diverse cultures and as we shall soon see, the Kingdom of Khazaria played a major role in that endeavor which St Augustine called a City of God well over a millennium… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 10, 2022 4:08 PM

One vast and ecumenical holding company . . .

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jun 11, 2022 3:22 PM

Mr. Beale forgot to bring his 9mm to the conversation…

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 11, 2022 5:41 PM

Except there’s always going to be somebody making a profit out of trading the bullet!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 13, 2022 12:14 PM

Ah, the satire! Or is it parody? I get confused !!! https://business.time.com/2008/01/21/the_vast_ecumenical_holding_co The vast ecumenical holding company that is Davos By TIME.com Jan. 21, 2008 Mrs. CC and I are headed off to Switzerland tonight for a week of winter sports and debauchery high-minded panel discussions in the mountain resort of Davos. I will be posting regularly and even, heaven forfend, vlogging. But before I go, I’ll leave you with these encouraging words from Arthur Jensen, the big-media CEO (played by Ned Beatty) from the movie Network. He’s giving Howard Beale, the Lou Dobbsian network anchor (played by Peter Finch) a talking-to: There is no America, there is no democracy, there is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon … The world is a college of corporations inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale, it has… Read more »

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Jun 10, 2022 4:57 PM

I found the article Anti Semitic!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 10, 2022 8:04 PM

TruNews on the relocation of Israel to Ukraine https://rumble.com/v10n18e-ecumenical-alliance-seeks-to-declare-kiev-as-new-jerusalem.html Ecumenical Alliance Seeks to Declare Kiev as “New Jerusalem” TruNews April 11, 2022 Last week we told you about Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky’s odd comment that his country would become Big Israel. We continued researching the topic and found a lot of fascinating information to share with you about a movement to declare Kiev the New Jerusalem. If the main proponent of the scheme was not a billionaire, we would not pay much attention to it. The deeper we dug, the more we found. Doc Burkhart is back and ready to jump into this fascinating topic. Rick Wiles, Doc Burkhart. Airdate 4/11/22. — BTW: TruNews were at Davos 2020 – as invited journalists! For example: https://www.trunews.com/stream/trunews-in-davos-2020-putin-s-rabbi-reveals-trump-peace-plan-details-to-trunews TruNews In Davos 2020: Putin’s Rabbi Reveals Trump Peace Plan Details To TruNews Today on TruNews we share an exclusive interview with Russia’s chief rabbi… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 11, 2022 3:15 PM

Heavenly Jerusalem and War in Ukraine Posted by u/kulpson 3 months ago https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/t5tlx7/heavenly_jerusalem_and_war_in_ukraine Israel has been under threat almost since the state’s inception. So far, despite numerous conflicts, thanks to the support of the United States, they have emerged victorious from oppression. Today the situation is more complex. Western societies no longer look uncritically at Israel. There is growing resentment due to the almost apartheid policy of the Arabs, the destruction of their homes and the taking of land for Jewish settlement. Additionally, radicalism is growing in all Arab states. With almost 9 million people, Israel is surrounded by over 100 million hostile neighbors. Moreover, for a long time there has been a theory that in 10 years time there will be no Israel. This theory has been functioning for many years in the circles of analysts, experts and also politicians. One of the first to introduce this theory was… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 11, 2022 5:23 PM

Igor Berkut:

According to my knowledge, this “Heavenly Jerusalem” is located in the south of Ukraine and includes five provinces: Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhia, Odessa, Kherson and Mykolaiv […]. In these lands, a New Jerusalem will be established, which will allow the development of the entire nation of Israel.

Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporovsky, Kherson, Mykolaiv and Odessa oblasts.

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Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 16, 2022 4:29 AM

Project Heavenly Jerusalem – Do You Know Why The War in Ukraine Broke Out?
Mar 26, 2022
Athair Ar Neamh
Niebiańska Jerozolima – Dlaczego Wybuchła Wojna na Ukrainie ?
(Why the War broke out in Ukraine)

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jun 11, 2022 3:30 PM

Hello, Lost in a dark wood: Seems few persons wish to acknowledge the history of the area. They’d rather watch the fake News exuding from their “smart” phones…

Ottoman Empire? Hapsburg Empire? Holy Roman Empire? Let’s play musical chairs…

william
william
Jun 10, 2022 2:33 PM

Russia, will win in the Ukraine and cherry pick the best bits and leave the rest for the scavengers, Poland etc. Europe will then have to make a choice, throw its lot in with the Russians and cheap energy or switch to the West and expensive, unreliable energy. Russia, doesn’t have to do any more than control what it wants in Ukraine, the West is already tripping over its own banana skins. The Russians and Chinese must be laughing their socks off.

MLS
MLS
Jun 10, 2022 5:04 PM
Reply to  william

You’re commenting sagely on a staged wrestling match. Who cares who “wins”? The end result will be the same. Pay attention to what’s actually happening

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Jun 11, 2022 2:02 PM
Reply to  MLS

What is actually happening?

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jun 10, 2022 2:32 PM

Extremely weak points were made in the article. The West is, what? A local planning commission? Does the “senile phenomenon” only affect the elderly? Come on man…

Political and economic events within the last 400 years were largely the result of technological and industrial “progress”. This “progress” progressively moved monetary power toward the incorporated owners of the earlier plantation State. These royal families and mafia stylists – simply monopolized their holdings and continued the ancient arts of feudal subjugation. You know? Like hiring mercenary armies to fight civilian populations… It didn’t matter where those populations existed. The Middle East is in the middle of??? Erm…

The Ukraine has had it’s time boarders moved so many times the land has become epileptic. Viva le corporation! Or else…

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 11, 2022 6:56 AM

Supposedly, it was exporting items in demand. Yet, someone commented that it was also exporting its precious topsoil.

Joerg
Joerg
Jun 10, 2022 2:11 PM

An excellent discussion – sadly only in German available (but some readers here may be able to follow) : “Hunger Games” – *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF62HPv_CUc
 

Edwige
Edwige
Jun 10, 2022 1:50 PM

Woodrow Wilson –

“Some of the biggest men in the US in the fields of commerce and manufacturing know that there is a power so organised, so subtle, so complete, so persuasive that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it”.

Who could he have meant? Not Ukrainians nor BRICs it seems safe to say!

Wilson’s utterly improbable presidency was handled by Edward M. House. House just happens to have written a novel ‘Philip Dru: Administrator’, one of the first pointers to technocracy.

Howard
Howard
Jun 10, 2022 1:44 PM

This article was bound to fall on deaf ears. It implies the European derived (i.e., white) peoples were something less than God’s gift to humanity – the old “Civilizing Force” used for hundreds of years to justify exploiting the rest of the world.

All these great bastions of civilization did was develop better weapons and fighting skills – thus exemplifying the oldest, sleaziest and most damaging con in human history: might makes right.

The article commits a very great heresy by implying that Western culture is not and should not remain the standard for global excellence.

He who calls the West “barbaric” better be prepared for a harsh drubbing. You see, it’s not the West, it’s just certain bad actors; the rest of the West is all warm and snuggly and just wants to share the world with the “Third World.”

Can we be your friend, Third World?

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Jun 10, 2022 4:52 PM
Reply to  Howard

Even the term’ Third World‘ is derogative.

MLS
MLS
Jun 10, 2022 5:16 PM

Derogatory?

MLS
MLS
Jun 10, 2022 5:15 PM
Reply to  Howard

God this chest-beating self-flagellating west-hate of the white intellectuals is so boring and pointless. There’s a lot wrong with the West, but a lot right too. Why do you think the globalists want to destroy us? Because we have a tradition of individualism and freedom which, while compromised and exploited and eroding fast, is still an obstacle to the lockstep pseudo-collectivism they envisage for humanity. No similar tradition affects China or even Russia – hence they are picked to be the new centers of power. Why do you think it’s becoming a little trendy to praise China? Because Chinese society is their exemplar for the New Normal, and they’re trying to make us admire it and accept it. Be careful what you wish for. Pretty soon the old western society you hate unconditionally will be a memory. You’ll be a social-credited, dna-mapped drone. And you’ll realise the West as currently… Read more »

Jesper
Jesper
Jun 10, 2022 1:09 PM

Best thing one can do is consider nukes for what they really are – a propaganda ploy. Get rid of the chilling fear. If they’re real we WILL see sooner rather than later. We are heading for the abyss with or without them so why even bother?! (Same as with so called pandemics). C’est la vie.

MLS
MLS
Jun 10, 2022 5:18 PM
Reply to  Jesper

Why does every human generation feel convinced it is heading for the abyss?

Jesper
Jesper
Jun 10, 2022 7:09 PM
Reply to  MLS

Every civilised generation.

Wisenox
Wisenox
Jun 10, 2022 1:03 PM

The manufactured Ukraine garbage is just a distraction for the sheep. There’s at least 4 reasons for the creation of the Ukraine narrative: 1. Ukraine is supposed to account for the coming food shortages. There were farmers putting out videos about the sabotage of fertilizer in 2021 and food processing plants have been routinely burned this year. Ukraine is NOT the cause of the food shortages. 2. Ukraine is supposed to help divide the people. The sheep will choose between nazis and commies, and dislike each other for it. Its WW2 brown shirts versus antifa all over again. Order and chaos covenant style. 3. To assist the propaganda outlets. Having a huge phony narrative to report about takes the pressure off from reporting on topics the people actually need to hear, like vaccine patents crossing the blood brain barrier and installing carbon nanotubes. Also, the garbage media can avoid topics… Read more »

Grafter
Grafter
Jun 10, 2022 12:20 PM

Dreadful and confused article.

Zane
Zane
Jun 10, 2022 12:12 PM

Monkeypox or monkeybollox?

Fascism by any other name
Fascism by any other name
Jun 10, 2022 11:27 AM

Wars are unsustainable. The destruction-reconstruction profit loop enjoyed by firms like Halliburton seem to be slowly winding down. The Leocons just don’t have carte blanche at destroying whatever they like anymore. So, jumping on the “pandemics forever” bandwagon is the new chosen gravy train for public money that fills lucrative annual salaries. The US and Europe are the two strongholds of the idea of Democracy, which must be destroyed to make way for their permanent techno-digital slavery plan. “While the US military has served as the muscle for imperial wars, I think people often fail to distinguish the brains from the brawn. British intelligence tends to play a catalytic role in many of the most pivotal US foreign and domestic policy programs, largely by shaping the discourse and narratives, especially through their many brain trusts like the Rhodes Scholarship, the Council on Foreign Relations (which was created as an extension… Read more »

Oli
Oli
Jun 10, 2022 11:23 AM
Ohho, Nazi Russia attacked Ukraine, and Marx's minions continue to jerk off to Ukraine
Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 10, 2022 10:58 AM

But there is neither East nor West . . .

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Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 10, 2022 12:29 PM

I’m sure it’s just a coincidence!

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Diva
Diva
Jun 10, 2022 6:16 PM

What the heck is that?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 10, 2022 8:51 PM
Reply to  Diva

It’s the Ryugyong Hotel in North Korea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryugyong_Hotel The Ryugyong Hotel (Korean: 류경호텔; sometimes spelled as Ryu-Gyong Hotel), or Yu-Kyung Hotel,[4] is an unfinished 105-story, 330-metre-tall (1,080 ft) pyramid-shaped skyscraper in Pyongyang, North Korea. Its name (“capital of willows”) is also one of the historical names for Pyongyang.[5] The building is also known as the 105 Building, a reference to its number of floors.[3] The building has been planned as a mixed-use development, which would include a hotel. Construction began in 1987 but was halted in 1992 as North Korea entered a period of economic crisis after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. After 1992, the building stood topped out, but without any windows or interior fittings. In 2008, construction resumed, and the exterior was completed in 2011. The hotel was planned to open in 2012, the centenary of Kim Il-sung’s birth. A partial opening was announced for 2013, but… Read more »

Edwige
Edwige
Jun 10, 2022 10:29 AM

“the one that arose as a result of the genocide of the European colonization of the world 500 years ago.” A designed guilt-trip for the woke and vaguely left to get them to welcome their own destruction. Remind me of all the colonies of the Irish, the Czechs, the Norwegians, the Poles…. even the German and Italian “empires” were miniscule. Put the blame where it really lies – with the elites of a handful of Western European nations (Britain, France, Spain, Belgium, Netherlands) that had themselves been colonised. “This [new post-Western] order should be based on consensus, on the win-win logic, on the logic of respect for diversity and on problem-solving agendas rather than on normative conceptions of political systems, etc.” Gosh, that sounds an awful lot like a technocracy. More generally, of course I agree with the criticisms of the Western models of the economy, agriculture and science. What… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jun 10, 2022 1:01 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Let’s at least try getting try getting rid of the US of As and the fUcK … you never know …
It’s an excellent place to start. We can make adjustments once those two execrable entities are defanged and out of the picture.

MLS
MLS
Jun 10, 2022 5:31 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

What do you mean “get rid” of them?

You mean destroy their infrastructure? Kill all their people?

What do those words actually entail?

Do you think if the US crumbles the US elites will go down with it? How naive are you?

The US elites are in the same 0.1% clique as the UK elites and the Russian elites and EU and Israeli and Arabic elites. They are all globalists and give no fucks for any national identity.

They are currently PLANNING the destruction of the West that you are cheering on, safe in the knowledge their wealth will never be affected whatever happens.

They already live globally with homes all round the world.

The collapse of the West will just mean they need more security on their Long Island mansions to keep the starving plebs out

So, think about what you’re saying a bit more.

Zane
Zane
Jun 11, 2022 7:26 AM
Reply to  MLS

They will sail away from Long Island on their superyachts with direct satellite linkup to their bankers in Zurich.

Penelope
Penelope
Jun 10, 2022 8:24 AM

I don’t understand what is planned re monkeypox. Smallpox, monkeypox & chickenpox all have the same morphology under the electron microscope& some sources say they ARE the same virus. 1958 monkeys shipped from Singapore to a Denmark research facility fell ill.  1970 first confirmed human case virus isolated from a child in the Democratic Republic of Congo at fist suspected to have smallpox. Immunity to monkeypox virus was previously achieved with smallpox vaccination. Presumably chickenpox vaccination now 90% effective against monkeypox as it is against chickenpox. In the US it’s been on the mandatory school vaxx schedule since 1995, so at least in the US everyone up to 30 years old has already been vaxxed against it. And just about everybody older than 30 has already HAD chickenpox so are 100% immune to identical or nearly identical monkeypox. So is it just a distraction, or are they going to whip… Read more »

Jacques
Jacques
Jun 10, 2022 8:29 AM
Reply to  Penelope

That’s exactly what I was thinking. Plus, older generations are vaccinated against smallpox.

Regardless of whether viruses exist or not, whether vaccination is a crock of shit or not, the monkeypox hoax doesn’t add up.

At the same time, anything goes these days. People are probably willing to swallow just about anything.

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2022 9:06 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Thanks for info, Penelope. There is more alarm than info at present; and the ratio will get increase to All Alarm and No Info unless Truther sites get going.

However, the problem is not the disease but the abuse of alarm over the disease to impose a Dictatorship of Euthanasian Psychopaths. Like in Nazi Germany or Nazi Ukraine: the problem is not European Jews nor Ukrainian Russians but the abuse of alarm over ethnic groups to impose a Dictatorship of Genocidal Psychopaths.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jun 10, 2022 11:38 AM
Reply to  Penelope

So is it just a distraction, or are they going to whip out a variant that’s undergone gain-of-function and call it a variant?

Quite possibly. Think it’s interesting that ‘The Wuhan Institute of Virology’ has also carried out research on monkeypox:
https://humansbefree.com/2022/05/wuhan-bio-lab-carried-out-gain-of-function-research-on-monkeypox-virus.html

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 10, 2022 11:55 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Nothing planned. Unless proven otherwise with data, it is another result of the jab now being deflected and “monetised”. Just like the brain, heart and liver damage, cancer, relapses, etc., even in athletes, youths and children. They can’t even muster new photos of the purported new threat.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 10, 2022 8:23 AM

Ever since the covid epic started to wane, they’ve been trying to “fill the void” with another hysterical one-note symphony. They tried global warming and the abortion issue etc. But Ukraine is the one they’re sticking with. Which is why the media is grinding out ancient cold war propaganda about “Evil Russkies” which the Left will unfailingly get uptight about and we have another “news swerve”. And while everyone’s looking over there …. etc.

cockoo_1
cockoo_1
Jun 10, 2022 9:21 AM
Reply to  George Mc

 they’ve been trying to “fill the void” with another hysterical one-note symphony

Great line.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Jun 10, 2022 10:19 AM
Reply to  George Mc

> And while everyone’s looking over there ….

… we are running out of cheap oil and hitting limits to debt.

Howard
Howard
Jun 10, 2022 4:50 PM
Reply to  George Mc

They haven’t done with global warming by any stretch of the imagination. (And, of course, I’m one of the few here who accepts the reality of it.)

Years ago – maybe a few decades – they “predicted” that because of global warming there would likely be an increase in new and strange diseases as the warming released many previously “frozen” viruses, etc.

So they definitely set the stage for whatever they might come up with – no matter how preposterous.

It’s those pesky melting glaciers what done it!

MLS
MLS
Jun 10, 2022 5:40 PM
Reply to  George Mc

No, this time they are playing both sides. Russia is intended to win and triumph and eventually become the new financial superpower while the phony Cold War 2.0 will be used to promote the idea there is conflict so people won’t realise there is de facto global government, and to justify shortages and curtailment of freedom.

Joerg
Joerg
Jun 10, 2022 7:19 AM

“WE ARE BEING LED INTO NUCLEAR WAR”- Dr. Paul Craig Roberts is alarmed, because the prospect for peace is fading away.
“What are the Prospects for Peace?” – https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/06/07/what-are-the-prospects-for-peace/

Jacques
Jacques
Jun 10, 2022 7:57 AM
Reply to  Joerg

Do they really want a hugely destructive WWIII, with nukes, the whole nine yards? Or a protracted chaos, endless warlike state, martial law?

Here is another piece I read yesterday:

https://nouveau-monde.ca/comment-la-russie-pourrait-deotaniser-leurope-et-le-fera-t-elle/

Joerg
Joerg
Jun 10, 2022 9:06 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Here – from Your link – the Video-comment from Gonzalo Lira:
“What Happens To Europe When Russia Wins”

Jacques
Jacques
Jun 10, 2022 9:22 AM
Reply to  Joerg

Apparently, there are huge deposits of natural gas in the parts the Russians are after, the Donbas and around Crimea.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jun 10, 2022 1:08 PM
Reply to  Jacques

Not to mention a $10 billion dollar investment on the part of Royal Dutch Shell in those very resources. If that’s not worth dying for, you tell me what is?

Mr Y
Mr Y
Jun 10, 2022 10:23 AM
Reply to  Joerg

Gonzalo Lira, dating coach turned geopolitical expert.

Dale
Dale
Jun 10, 2022 11:53 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

You’d prefer to bet your intel from the Ghost of Kyiv ?

MLS
MLS
Jun 10, 2022 5:42 PM
Reply to  Dale

Wow, so many shills trying to keep those meaningless binary choices going

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Jun 11, 2022 2:11 PM
Reply to  MLS

Whereas you keep coming out with evidence-free cryptic clues to your secret knowledge.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Jun 10, 2022 11:54 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

Sorry uninformed down woters, that’s the cold hard truth!

Joerg
Joerg
Jun 10, 2022 12:47 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

People like You always argue “ad personam” only .. unable to take a position to facts and other people’s arguments!.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jun 10, 2022 1:06 PM
Reply to  Joerg

I prefer his useful “manosphere” blogging. But I guess since the SBU likes him, he can shift gears and churn out fresh BS

MLS
MLS
Jun 10, 2022 5:41 PM
Reply to  Joerg

who is this guy Gonzalo? Where did he come from? I find his orange hat and his sudden prominence suspicious. I think he’s a created entity.

Hele
Hele
Jun 10, 2022 6:58 AM

I live in Western Canada and today it rained cats and dogs.
The climate freaks called what once was considered heavy rain, an “atmospheric river.”

Jacques
Jacques
Jun 10, 2022 7:16 AM
Reply to  Hele

I lived in Vancouver in 1985/1986, the Expo year. That winter was reportedly the worst in something like 50 years – there was snow and it was cold (mind you, our old house in the West End didn’t even have proper heating, only a wall outlet producing somewhat lukewarm air. I wonder what that would be called today … 😀 …! In the summer, it rained just about all the time. Fine nonstop drizzle. Pretty annoying. Except in White Rock. It was always sunny there. I wonder what has become of Vancouver. In my time, there were tons of people from the Prairies who moved there to escape the harsh winters. They were lovable folk, wouldn’t let you leave and would talk your ear off (I worked as a canvasser for a while) – apparently because back home a visitor used to be a rare thing and must be taken… Read more »

Hele
Hele
Jun 11, 2022 8:03 AM
Reply to  Jacques

You would not recognize it.Blade Runner/HongKong condo explosion.Lots of ethnic diversity.Great restaurants and food scene Terrible mental illness,drug use and homelessness-beyond just the traditional border of the Downtown East Side.

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2022 6:58 AM

1990 — What Comes Next? From Wikipedia “History of Ukraine”: “With the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine became an independent state, formalised with a referendum. On 21 January 1990, over 300,000 Ukrainians organized a human chain for Ukrainian independence between Kyev and Lvov.” Also from Wikipedia “Ukrainian Oligarch”: “Ukrainian oligarchs are business oligarchs who emerged on the economic and political scene of Ukraine after the 1991 Ukrainian independence referendum. This period saw Ukraine transitioning to a market economy, with the rapid privatization of state-owned assets. Those developments mirrored those of the neighboring post-Soviet states after the dissolution of the Soviet Union. The influence of Ukrainian oligarchs on domestic and regional politics, particularly their links to Russian Oligarchs q.v. has been the source of Ukraine’s lack of political reform or action against corruption.” In 1990 began a 30 year Nightmare of the Oligarchs, when little girls had to freeze in… Read more »

Willem
Willem
Jun 10, 2022 6:55 AM

The true absurdity is that Camus’s novel ‘the plague’ was read by large numbers of doctors who fully fell for the covid swindle and associated measures and actively supported all of the dangerous nonsense, including the ‘get yourself injected multiple times with graphene oxide, gene altering, ‘therapy’, yet thought that they were acting similar like the hero (Dr Rieux) did in that book!

That, I would call an existential crisis.

Cleggy
Cleggy
Jun 10, 2022 6:54 AM

Nope. Leftist fantasy that nice mr Putin and nice mr Xi are going to save us poor western proles from the nasty western oligarchs.

One word. “Shanghai”.

jimbojames
jimbojames
Jun 10, 2022 12:04 PM
Reply to  Cleggy

Hilariously clueless. The Left doesn’t back China or Putin.

Putin is beloved by the far-right in America. Only Danny Haiphong on the Left is in Love with Chin.

Personally, I am (to date) neutral on Putin, nay, more not a fan than a fan, though I thoroughly support stomping out NATO. As far as China goes, they’ve been wretched since Mao, and Mao might not have been all that he was cracked up to be. No offense of course.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jun 10, 2022 1:16 PM
Reply to  Cleggy

Yup. As much as I would like for all these high hopes for the BRICS to be true, the evidence just keep on building that Russia and China, at some level, are ‘in on it’. It was the Covid-hoax that changed my mind about BRICS. I no longer see them as the antidote to WEF-globalization; I now see them as part of it. It’s Oceania vs. Eurasia.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jun 10, 2022 1:17 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

But props to Nicaragua, where Daniel Ortega has mostly refused to play along with the Covid-hysteria.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Jun 10, 2022 6:46 AM

Biden isn’t running a thing he is a puppet for Obama.
European civilization is finished thanks to mass immigration.
The globalist agenda is moving ahead swiftly.
Ukraine is just a side show helping the economic destruction of the West…
Tyrants fear one thing and it’s not compliant sheep..

Mr Y
Mr Y
Jun 10, 2022 10:31 AM
Reply to  Paul Watson

> Biden isn’t running a thing he is a puppet for Obama.

As if Obama wasn’t/isn’t a puppet …

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Jun 10, 2022 12:36 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

True so many levels of puppetry!

MLS
MLS
Jun 10, 2022 5:46 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Oh ffs saying Biden is a puppet for Obama is like saying Sooty is a puppet for Sweep or Kermit is a puppet for the Cookie Monster.

why are people so dumb?

Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Mike Ellwood (Oxon UK)
Jun 11, 2022 2:18 PM
Reply to  MLS

Enlighten us, O wise one.

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Jun 10, 2022 6:28 AM

I tell you “what next”. Let’s get back on track with the last 3 years and how global corporations masquerading as governments should be dealt with by the sovereign people. Individuals need to held to account.

Lets not go onto the next thing on the screen. The biggest scam in my lifetime just happened and i’m not going to be distracted.

Koba
Koba
Jun 10, 2022 8:29 AM

My method for dealing with our (s)elected leaders is the bullet to the temple method

Shin
Shin
Jun 10, 2022 1:44 PM
Reply to  Koba

I still think stoning has a place Koba.

Jacques
Jacques
Jun 10, 2022 5:49 AM

I commend the author for looking to the future, as opposed to forever dwelling on the past in vain hopes of finding the answers there. The first part of the text is interesting, even though numerous other alternatives exist, and things are probably more nuanced than suggested. This video examines the same subject, from a different, probably more profound perspective. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=662608548406325 The second part of the text is pure wishful thinking. Well, maybe not quite that – it can be considered a roadmap or proposal for a course humanity should follow. Good. We need much more of that. In that sense, the scenario the guy proposes is right on. Anything leading in the direction of abandoning hegemony, establishing true equality, and hopefully ridding the world of the concept of authority/hierarchy is good. Considered through the prism of physics, matter – seemingly stable – is apparently composed of zillions of small… Read more »

eman
eman
Jun 10, 2022 11:56 AM
Reply to  Jacques

yes, I agree hegemony must disappear. but Jorge Capelán’s view is narrowly constructed and does not take account of the largest single restraining barrier that prevents universal knowledge and development sharing among all humanity. That single barrier is the nation state system; 256 nation members subordinated to the whim of the most powerful among them. The nation state system is a set of armed and dangerous bandits(politicians) each in charge of a structure (prison) designed to support single monster hegemony [monster owns all, rules all, and restricts all to its dictates]. Each nation state is a crucible, inside of that crucible is trapped a portion of global humanity, and that portion, in each crucible, is differentially victimized to become a clone of the hegemon in charge of each crucible. Each nation sovereign state imposes total control over the environment (information, knowledge, history, culture, religion and so on) and over the… Read more »

Jacques
Jacques
Jun 10, 2022 12:31 PM
Reply to  eman

I’m from Planet Zorg. When I was little, my parents briefly stopped over here on Earth but had to leave hastily when a bunch of idiot humans was approaching intent on fucking up their flying saucer. I strayed into the woods and they didn’t have time to look for me. I’ve made do, here in this crazy fucking world, but it’s been a challenge, let me tell ya! Too many fucking idiots …  😀  …! Anyway, I think that what the author says is basically aimed at ultimately eradicating the nation-state hierarchy. What I really like about the text is that it proposes some vision of the future, some idea, as opposed to the endless whining that the world is fucked up and that they’re after us. Isn’t that fucking obvious. Be it as it may, the best solution would be if somebody from Zorg came to get… Read more »

jimbojames
jimbojames
Jun 10, 2022 11:58 AM
Reply to  Jacques

Yes, but, they (particles) apparently follow Society’s laws, very much unlike Homo S.

Jacques
Jacques
Jun 10, 2022 3:18 PM
Reply to  jimbojames

You mean there are nanoscopic justins turdos and ursulas von leyens all over the place?

Yuck!

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jun 10, 2022 5:25 AM

The West can’t win win any more because at its core its still thinking in terms of civilized ‘us’ against savage ‘them’. It just can’t come to terms with ‘them’ being real people with real lives, real culture, real knowledge and real societies because to admit so would require a complete recalibration of the relationships between us and them. Unfortunately recognition of this fact is going to be slow in coming — so many people here are steeped in the us/them narrative, its been drummed into them since birth, that it would take a cataclymic event to force rapid change. Our banker driven system of economics and government is merely force meeting reality and reality winning. Its actually been proven time and again that free markets only work when they are tightly regulated because they’re inherently unproductive — a good servant but a dreadful master. Generations of economists have made… Read more »

Cleggy
Cleggy
Jun 10, 2022 6:58 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Take note all that the proven COVID shill is taking an anti-western line. What does it tell us?

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2022 7:02 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

“The West can’t win win”.

That’s right; win-win is the Chinese way. “The West” always plays a zero-sum game: I Win, You Lose.

Antonym
Antonym
Jun 10, 2022 4:10 AM

The new post-Western order has to emerge from facts, it cannot be a product of a desk or a pact on board a warship like the famous Atlantic Charter signed by Churchill and Roosevelt in August 1941 and parodied 80 years later by Biden and Boris Johnson.

Read the text on photo of the actual August 14 Atlantic Charter: a positive text on sovereignty of all nations, de-nazification and disarmament. Churchill had his bright moments, he was not the John Bull of earlier years.
Noble intentions messed up after 1945: MICIMATT vs Stalin/Mao?

Unrecognizable in a 2022 Boris and Joe clown show.