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Ukraine in the time of Covid Can we trust “horizontal conflict” in the post-pandemic age?

Catte Black

The biggest mistake the elites made with the scamdemic was to let us see what good buddies they really are, because this instantly and inadvertently presented the 99.9% with a shocking and previously quite carefully hidden reality about the true nature of power and geopolitics.

Horizontal conflict narratives have for centuries been a major part of how elites control their populations. Catholic v Protestant, Moslem v Christian, black v white, male v female, gay v straight etc etc. It’s a tried and trusted method of channeling frustrations, shaping minds and keeping people’s minds off the real authors of their misfortunes.

Behind the facade of conflict the elites have always shared a common bond of mutual interest. Kings (mostly) knew to honor the divinity of other kings even in defeat. Even when they killed each other they did it reluctantly and in the guise of “natural causes”. They knew their own populations were the real common enemies against which they knew to make common cause.

War was just another method of achieving this as well as gratifying some degree of personal pride.

Nothing much has changed in the modern era. And a great deal of the legacy media’s energy has long been devoted to helping to conceal the reality of the “big (supranational) club” that we ain’t in.

Until, that is, the recent huge error of judgement by the world’s leaders when they chose to abandon the carefully maintained “horizontal divisions” narrative in favor of some New Age, New Normal narrative of “international solidarity and co-operation to beat the virus”.

They were clearly going for some “Independence Day” type hug-fest psychic effect. Humanity falling into each other’s arms and deciding to work together in WHO-created mutual New Normal benevolence to defeat an invisible enemy that will, of course, never be defeated.

It did not go over as planned.

They just tried to sell it too hard too fast. And they blew it.

Gordon Brown reacting to a few hundred “COVID” deaths by saying we needed a world government (not yet, Gordon, too soon!).

Goldfinger Schwab and his stupid book of “happy peasant” delusional raving.

Insane overkill on the “nothing will ever be the same” meme based on a few flu cases.

Those pix of people falling over backwards because “covid” in China.

All our lovely leaders being seen at their international junkets ignoring their own mask rules (except for the flunkies), while forcing their populations into isolation and psychological torture.

All pushing their own magically produced untested toxic concoctions, all unctuously mouthing the same lies in a hundred different languages.

They goofed and made it just too obvious how closely in sync they are.

Sure they did also seed a few “alternative” deadly virus narratives that halfheartedly muddied the waters by blaming China, or maybe the US, but it wasn’t enough to counter the truly stunning images of international elite solidarity. Most particularly east-west solidarity.

Why were the Chinese elites spearheading this lie? Why were the Russian elites promoting it?

This was a big wake up moment for many many people all over the world.

Not for the majority, of course. For the majority there was nothing but zombified lockstep, absolute obedience, bizarre levels of willing self-destruction.

But for a large and growing minority the very opposite began to happen.

This growing minority began realizing, not only that the pandemic was a massive lie, but also began to discern that most carefully hidden and most explosive truth — that the elites of the world – all the world – owe allegiance to each other above and beyond any trapping of national identity.

And that convincing us this is not true had heretofore been a huge part of retaining their power.

Faced with this awakening some people began to see they had no choice but to take control of their own destiny rather than wait for their governments to save them.

Small grass roots and spontaneous rebellions began sprouting. First it was just a very few but then more and more people began challenging the pandemic lie. There were mass marches in cities across the globe and small local “stand in the park” protests. People were speaking out, reaching out. The truckers began their convoy.

Suddenly from a place of darkness there was real hope. Not invested in some phony hero politician or some noisy celebrity populist, but in ourselves. Groups of ordinary people began realizing they could take back their lives.

And simultaneously the pandemic narrative began to falter.

Vaccine uptake was not meeting expectations. Even people who had one jab were getting reluctant to have another. Some of those who had once been compliant began to feel they’d had enough.

By autumn 2021 the New Normal – and, more importantly, the system promoting it – were actually in some trouble. The worst trouble they had known for a while.

Faced with overwhelming resistance the “Independence Day hug-fest”, and indeed the whole pandemic narrative, began to go into panic-reverse. Mask mandates began to be canceled. Quarantines abandoned. QR codes likewise.

And the elites began to recall the benefits of those good old tried and true horizontal conflict narratives.

The US began accusing Russia, China began accusing the US. Israel began bombing everyone again.

But not because they wanted to distract you from that awkward realization about how chummy they really are behind the scenes!

No. Never. Not at all.

It was because Russia suddenly got extra scary. And those Nazis in Ukraine suddenly became seriously worrying. And Israel got all worried about terrorists and Iran again. And Taiwan….yada yada.

And, obviously, those elites who can all agree to tell the same lies in the same words at the same time and produce the same “response” and promote the same “solutions” in lockstep over covid just can’t agree at all over anything else.

Because deep seated ideological and strategical differences make it impossible.

Oops.

So, the US had no option but to start provocations in the China Sea and flood Ukraine with weapons and advisors, and Russia had no option but to invade Ukraine.

It was all inevitable. Like death and taxes. Just something that wise people know had to happen.

And the fact it rescued the power structure from a dicey little moment is absolutely and totally a coincidence.

Yes, it did reinstate all the old conflict narratives and allow the media to make a lot of noise and distract people while the embarrassing “Independence Day co-operation” narrative snuck out the room.

And yes, it did rescue the New Normal and provide a lovely new reason for potential rationing, belt-tightening, forever shortages, travel restrictions and all the other things Goldfinger Schwab and his billionaire supranational globalist chums really like.

But coincidences are like that.

Coincidental. Convenient. And no need to look any further.

I mean – would your favourite world leader really start or provoke a war just for convenience or profit? Would they really sacrifice lives just to benefit themselves?

Ok, maybe the Americans would, because Imperialism.

But Russia? China? They’re more moral, right. Higher ethical plain.

I mean sure, they are all equally happy to let their citizens get injected with untested toxic sludge, and sure they just worked with the West to joint-perpetrate an unprecedented global scam that may have killed or maimed millions.

And sure there is quite a lot to be gained from “winning” in Ukraine, aside from defeating Nazis. Fat rebuilding contracts. Access to a lot of resources.

And of course the same convenient distraction equally serves West and East.

But no, come on. Sure they were all in lockstep in 2020. And, ok they still are in lockstep in 2022 – but only over the pandemic lie!

They are absolutely opposed and forced into conflict about everything else, and we need to take a side, support the good guys who are rooting for a better world.

The only alternative is to recognize that horizontal divisions benefit them not us. That neither side is good, or rooting for anything but their own advantage, and that fundamentally, as ever, the global 0.1% take care of their own interests while striving hard to deter and divert us from doing the same.

I suggest we stop being diverted and deterred, remember the lesson of 2020 and continue on the path of personal and collective awakening they are doing their best to lure us from.

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eman
eman
Aug 4, 2022 12:38 PM

 helping to conceal the reality of the “big (supranational) club” that we ain’t in.

but behind the scene manipulation between the nation states can only be done with monopoly power in private hands. copyright, patents, deeds, trademarks, govern contracts, and politicians embedded in political systems and the like

Robert
Robert
Jul 31, 2022 1:09 PM

Excellent text, Thanks!

Name
Name
Jul 30, 2022 10:17 AM

This kind of view of world is “one dimensional”.

  1. Of course that all rulers through history are trying to hold to their pyramid of power.
  2. Difference among rulers is how much they are willing to share that power through social pyramid.
  3. And there are many “pyramids” in world at any point in time. There was no time when there was only one pyramid, never in our history. Struggle among “pyramids” are always present.

Yes, all world leaders consider COVID as “nice way” to enforce their power in their pyramids. That’s it.

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Aug 1, 2022 8:30 AM
Reply to  Name

That’s just totally in denial of the truth. Let me remind you about 2020, because you are obviously in traumatic amnesia. — The world leaders didn’t just “consider COVID as a “nice way” to enforce their power”, they all worked in perfect lockstep to promote the same lie and read from the same script –

AND THEY ARE STILL DOING IT – even as we are being told relations between East and West are in total breakdown!

Do you not see? It’s just another big lie. Only this time they’re pretending to be enemies.

I stand in Uk rain
I stand in Uk rain
Jul 19, 2022 10:56 AM

One way to look at it: This is a civil war between the ‘bad guys’. States suck.

noname
noname
Jul 18, 2022 4:54 PM

As always opium for the people…a lot of bullshit propaganda…

antitermite
antitermite
Jul 18, 2022 4:52 PM

One of the first things the biggest bankers did is, what do you expect, go full vampire squid on western assets in Russia:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/jp-morgan-goldman-scoop-distressed-russian-assets-analysts-fret-about-economic-collapse

Of course no normal individuals or even companies can invest there.

It is just money, but it highlights the difference between us and “them”.

Clive WilliamsCoronavirus
Clive WilliamsCoronavirus
Jul 18, 2022 7:08 PM
Reply to  antitermite

Your just envious for the common denominator, currency. Reminds me of a entertaining film. The man who would be king.
The two lads in it are not investors “I’ve business in the south” lol!
Good luck ☺

Giants vs Gods
Giants vs Gods
Jul 18, 2022 4:16 PM

The late investigative journalist Joan Veon made a series of lectures in the 90’s called When Central Banks Rule the World, warning us of their global agenda. The IMF and World Bank have destroyed middle classes around the world, but Russia’s Sberbank is no better.

World poverty is viewed as a solution, not a problem. The World Bank and IMF think of poverty as low-priced labor, creating a competitive advantage for countries that produce labor-intensive goods. So poverty and austerity is an economic solution that’s built into their models. ~Michael Hudson

Truthstream Media keeps you grounded in reality with their amazing videos, pointing out the absurdity of Davos mentality, bubble-wrapped for too long.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 19, 2022 8:21 AM
Reply to  Giants vs Gods

Always watch out for the words competitive and efficiency.

Ort
Ort
Jul 19, 2022 8:42 PM
Reply to  mgeo

It may just be a disclosure of my deplorable but increasing (as far as possible) cynicism, but even the very word “solution” in official contexts triggers my crap detectors.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jul 18, 2022 3:35 PM

Why were the Chinese elites spearheading this lie? Why were the Russian elites promoting it?

This was a big wake up moment for many many people all over the world.

That’s what did it for me, frankly. Until 2020, I was Mr. BRICS. If anyone maligned Putin or Xi, I went into attack mode. Now I realize how naïve I was being.

RegretLeft
RegretLeft
Jul 18, 2022 8:52 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

I find it very odd, the soft spot so many have for the Chinese tyrants – from the nasty puppet Trudeau to (recently I have discovered) the otherwise insighful and left-wing economist Michael Hudson. And, in between, the various msm pundits de jour such as NYTimes Thomas Friedman.
Russia, is a slightly different story. I haven’t figured out how the left went from cheering squad back in the cold war days to their current two minutes of hate stance for Putin – barely a 10 year transition. Personally, I haven’t entirely given up on Putin; at a minimum he passes my comfortable-in-his-own-skin test – relative to the wierdos we’re stuck with as rulers (Trump passes too).
And, I admire your confession (naive) – I’ve made lots of them.

Clive WilliamsCoronavirus
Clive WilliamsCoronavirus
Jul 18, 2022 10:07 PM
Reply to  RegretLeft

Left or Right Politck ended 1968. Uni students back then must be old farts now. Everyone one of these Maxist boring Shits were for/against “Cold War” props.
Right was Fascist, (Americans don’t know shit).
Fascist/ Nazi, was nothing amongst us lads and lassies.
That was Then!
Now, it’s nice to see young people adjusting to any and all circumstances as we did back Then!

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 18, 2022 3:07 PM

Yup. It’s a mess. Why is it a mess? Erm… >

“MONOPOLY – Who Owns The World?” by Tim Gielen 
Published January 9, 2022
“MONOPOLY – Who Owns The World?” by Tim Gielen (English Subs) (rumble.com)


NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jul 19, 2022 10:40 PM

It’s so reassuring to see the world is in such safe hands! Thanks for linking it, Paul. I’ve noted the coordinates on the back of yet another envelope….

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 20, 2022 4:00 AM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Hello NixonScraypes: Good to see you’re still in the saddle. The film is very rigorous. Thanks for paying attention.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jul 20, 2022 11:04 AM

Rigorous indeed! Really it’s just clear and logical observation but that’s like hen’s teeth with the human brain these days. With this clear information one can immediately deduce the entire world paradigm….if the deductive facility is not totally dormant. It’s all we really need.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 18, 2022 1:49 PM

Had their program been a little different I wonder if they would have been more successful. The mask-wearing is still ridiculous in hospitals and they ask visitors if they’ve been double-jabbed – apparently in Queensland they don’t allow unjabbed visitors except for end-of-life patients and I’ve just been visiting a friend in Sydney who I was able to visit in emergency short-stay unjabbed but perhaps will have difficulty visiting now that she’s just been moved to a normal ward.

Were they really expecting to keep the mask-wearing up forever? And will they perhaps do that in hospitals at least? The HIV-causes-AIDS hoax is still going strong … since the 80s! I – and many others – had no idea about that hoax till covid.

I think the main reasons they won’t succeed are that the jab is maiming and killing too many people and is obviously completely ineffective for people testing positive for the BS covid. I just spoke with a generally fit and healthy, tested-positive, double-jabbed friend in her 60s who’s never had serious respiratory problems before who was in hospital for four nights on intravenous antibiotics and steroids. Could have nothing to do with the jab of course … but if the jab is maiming and killing people in various ways then why not actually cause them to also have more respiratory problems? A friend who for the first time in her life had the flu shot in 2019 also for the first time in her life got the flu a few months later.

But if the jab weren’t killing and maiming such a large number of people and weren’t so very obviously ineffective maybe they’d be more successful because as it is a hell of a lot of people are still on board with it to at least some degree.

The very deliberate nonsenses they push at us such as the people falling backwards in China referred to in the article is not the kind of the thing that disturbs those who tend to swallow whatever power throws at them. No. People are so very, very good at explaining things away and those in power know that which is why they have complete confidence in being able to push those nonsenses at us. I recently argued online with someone over the deliberate nonsense they pushed at us about two species of snakes, the Chinese cobra and the many-banded krait, being “reservoirs” of the virus. He explained it as “early flawed research”. I asked him how “early flawed research” was a better explanation than “nonsense”. I said it made no sense. No one would be looking in snakes at the outset and how would these two species be determined to be reservoirs? How many species did they look in? I mean you can’t even discuss it, it’s so nonsensical but this guy was all good to go with “early flawed research,” … and I’ve heard many similar “explanations” for their deliberate nonsense.

But very true, Catte, about the horizontal narratives. They sure keep us going with them. I can’t get over how Pearl Harbour was a staged event (bombing of an evacuated area) and Hiroshima and Nagasaki were fire-bombed like the other Japanese cities. What kind of deal did the US and Japan have?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 19, 2022 12:25 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Just to add: in 1898 a book was published, The Wreck of the Titanic, by Morgan Robertson “in which an unsinkable British passenger liner with far too few rowboats hits an iceberg in the North Atlantic during the month of April and promptly sinks, killing nearly everybody on board. Oh dear.” … “Robertson released another edition of his Titan narrative in 1914 but included a short story which described a future war pitted between the United States and the Empire of Japan.”
https://theunexpectedcosmology.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/The-Sinking-of-the-RMS-Titanic-Was-a-Hoax.pdf

Not only horizontal but many years in the planning.

They tell us that there was a single Japanese passenger on the Titanic, just as they told us there were a couple of Japanese people in the twin towers. Jon Revusky does a good analysis of the intangibility of these two people just as he also does a good analysis of the evidence for the existence of alleged flight attendant, Betty Ong. His research turns up an image of a black girl in a yearbook – surely an allusion to the song, Black Betty, no?

No one could accuse intelligence agents of not having a sense of humour. I’m sure they’re employed for it for the same reason as court jesters were employed.

https://heresycentral.is/revusky/discreet-japanese/
https://heresycentral.is/revusky/blackbetty/

entitled2
entitled2
Jul 19, 2022 5:47 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

The fake binary is something you’ve been saying for a long while now in a different format under the Controlled Opposition with a very good argument. Maybe they OFFG should redo the article they did which mentioned you as now they seen it to be kind off true.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 20, 2022 4:50 AM
Reply to  entitled2

I could have made better points in response to that article but no matter now – it’s all part of history and the very helpful understanding that came out of it for me was that it clarified in my mind that the 9/11 story is really “revelation of the method” through and through, not just a narrative that includes gratuitous anomalies, for example, having a passenger airliner sail into Defence HQ is part of the basic narrative but really quite unnecessary for the terror story – they simply over-egg the omelette at every single turn. You could say I was a victim of the fake binary myself – I was thinking in terms of “narrative” and “revelation-of-the-method gratuitous anomalies” when, in fact, the whole narrative is a “gratuitous anomaly”, the whole narrative is preposterous – a word I think Mark Crispin Miller used to describe it.

Moreover, I have to admit that Catte’s “fake binary” is more powerful than simply “controlled opposition” generally. “Controlled opposition” is obviously a phenomenon in its own right but “fake binary” applies in a more general way and it aligns with the logical fallacy “false dilemma” or “false dichotomy”.

I think it’s helpful to see propaganda strategies in terms of logical fallacies and how they build on each other. Another logical fallacy that’s used that has only recently occurred to me is the “sunk-cost fallacy”, the phenomenon whereby a person is reluctant to abandon a strategy or course of action because they have invested heavily in it, even when it is clear that abandonment would be more beneficial.

A human trait is very much to be invested in our beliefs. When a belief is held very solidly in our being, we are very reluctant to let it go because of the cognitive dissonance it causes, a phenomenon those in power understand so very, very well.

So if we consider the propaganda strategy of 9/11 the perps start with the “false dilemma” logical fallacy of:
— the terrorists killed and injured all the people
— the US government killed and injured all the people

when the overwhelming evidence indicates that death and injury were staged.

The problem is that when you tell those who may have got from virtually Day One that 9/11 was an inside job (it took me 13 years) that death and injury were staged many react in complete denial. Here enters the “sunk-cost fallacy”. Of course, the perps knew that even when it started to be worked out that death and injury were staged (after all, it’s not as if they tried to hide it, they only used propaganda to make us believe it), those trying to push that truth would tend to be given short shrift because of the investment in the idea of 9/11 as an evil deed done by evil elements within the US government. Of course, I don’t deny evilness at all – you only have to look at what’s happening now – and I think 9/11 was evil regardless of whether death and injury were staged, I think it’s evil to dupe people in that way but it’s good to know the truth of the propaganda strategy.

Clever: “false dilemma” logical fallacy combined with “sunk-cost fallacy”.

If you’re interested, I posted these questions on the site, Logically Fallacious.

Does the use of the term false flag tend to create in our minds the fallacy, false dilemma?

Is the inference that journalists were speaking candidly when alluding to controlled demolition on 9/11 a false premise?

Is dismissal of a theory on the basis of implausibility committing the fallacy of Argument from Incredulity?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 20, 2022 8:48 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

I just searched for court jester and intelligence agent to see if there was any historical connection between the two … and lo and behold! I have to say for someone who knows absolutely zero history my instincts aren’t bad.

https://www.ripleys.com/weird-news/court-fools-jesters/

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1956/3/8/the-court-jester-pin-ithe-court/

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/you-now-have-ever-been-rodney-whitehouse

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jul 19, 2022 10:48 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Interestingly I learned that the mandarin or satsuma, or emperor of japan was inducted into the Royal Order of the Garter before the war. Small world.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Jul 20, 2022 8:44 AM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

How ’bout them apples.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jul 20, 2022 10:15 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Aha, there lies the worm.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jul 20, 2022 11:11 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

The mask wearing could go on for ever. It appeals to victim think which has replaced victor think. Victims are the modern heroes, they get all the attention. This is the modern child’s experience and will influence his entire attitude.

Howard
Howard
Jul 18, 2022 1:26 PM

Once you’ve stepped into quicksand it really doesn’t matter if you have a snorkel with you or not – you ain’t coming out.

Once we fall for the “leader” ruse, it really doesn’t matter if he’s a “good” leader looking out for us or a “bad” leader only looking out for his crony leaders. No good will come of it either way.

Until people realize they don’t need leaders, corruption will always be there breathing down their necks. Because corruption is a major component of leadership: you cannot have one without the other.

When you give someone leave to hand out favors, you will soon have a bevy of favorites milling about with their hands out.

The only good leader is one who doesn’t exist.

Giants vs Gods
Giants vs Gods
Jul 18, 2022 3:59 PM
Reply to  Howard

That’s why capitalists love privatization. No government oversight or regulations. No accountability. No court marshaling. If they could dissolve nation-states altogether and just appear as holograms to us, like the creepy Queen Elizabeth one seen recently, all the better.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jul 19, 2022 10:58 PM
Reply to  Giants vs Gods

And nationalised bodies as well, it gives them anonymity. The state is just a corporation of corporations.

Owen
Owen
Jul 18, 2022 12:14 PM

Dear Catte,

Excellent as always, thank you so much.
I greatly appreciated how you present things in a way I can comprehend, the big-picture stuff.

At my ripe age I am destitute as to what I can do, too afraid to speak out because I don’t want to alienate my loved ones any further. That’s not a nice retirement package. I’m talking about my children no longer calling me because I tried to show them the truth two years ago. There’s no blame, at least at this level.

I will, as gently as I can, bring this article to their attention. Who knows?

Regards,

Owen.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 18, 2022 1:42 PM
Reply to  Owen

Groupthink is far more widespread than we thought just three years ago.
“Family” is no longer what it used to be.

I take heart from the fact that mankind has an umbilical cord which is supposed to be cut.
That process is often referred to symbolically, but it also corresponds to a psychological reality.
When our children are grown up, they are not really our children any more.
I know that sounds harsh, but what I have seen around me during a fairly long life confirms it. What matures in a mentally sound human being is not a copy of a parent.

We all need a philosophy if we are to find what Jordan Peterson calls ‘meaning’ in our lives. My own instincts tend in the direction of thinking that we are here to work as creatively as we can with our talents, and to learn.

Not to be ‘happy’ and to copy everybody else.

In traditional religion, I suppose a rite like that of Confirmation recognizes this independent aspect of a human being, but I sometimes think another comparable ceremony is required at the age of 21 or 30, where at least an element of ‘informed consent’ enters the picture.

Once you become ‘You’, there’s no turning back.
There are no other ‘Yous”.

It’s hard when one’s own family use the witholding of personal contact as a weapon, but, as I implied, even our own children have an element within them which has nothing whatever to do with us. It’s like a bonus, a plus, if our grown-up kids happen to end up as our good friends, but it can’t be taken for granted.

Frankly, our soul mates are more important, and we can find those absolutely anywhere.

Good luck bringing this article to the attention of your children, but don’t hold your breath waiting for a welcoming response. If they are grown up, they will resent anybody else trying, even gently, to tell them what they should believe. For them, it is like a visit from the Jehovah’s Witnesses…

To be practical, let me just mention that my own wife is bored with my comments about the TV news, but she has not become my enemy. I just don’t discuss corrupt government with her any more. It’s really okay. Why should her interests be exactly the same as mine?

Essentially, that scenario is no worse than me being bored with the fact that some of my family have thousands of FB ‘friends’. I have absolutely no need to discuss the matter with them, and it’s perfectly okay. There’s plenty of other stuff to discuss, and I am not a lifestyle guru, evangelist or preacher.

Back to the umbilical cord: Let people be what they are. We can’t change them. We literally don’t have the power to do so, nor should we try.
That’s one of the important things we learn in life, and one day Uncle Klaus will learn it too – although his time is running out in this incarnation…

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 19, 2022 8:34 AM
Reply to  wardropper

It may relate to the suitable level of abstraction (abstract thought) for the individual. Even for me, if a subject is too abstract/esoteric, I cannot maintain interest. For a news hound, the type of news matters: neighbourhood, wider society, politics, finance, etc.

entitled2
entitled2
Jul 18, 2022 12:09 PM

Within 3 months of BS19 they played the white copper killing a black guy.

And the elites began to recall the benefits of those good old tried and true horizontal conflict narratives.

The US began accusing Russia, China began accusing the US. Israel began bombing everyone again.

Catte gets it.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 19, 2022 9:00 AM
Reply to  entitled2

Maybe the bomb inventories were just too high, or the armaments share prices too low.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 18, 2022 9:55 AM

Sophie:

We have several articles on the self-proclaimed Banderists (neo-Nazis) in Ukraine. You are welcome to take this discussion to any of these.

Do you have any articles on the whole thing being a hoax? If not, I’ll choose this one:

https://off-guardian.org/2022/03/28/ukraine-war-what-is-it-good-for-the-nazi-agenda
Mar 28, 2022
Ukraine War! What Is It Good For? The Nazi Agenda
Iain Davis

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 18, 2022 11:03 AM

Thank you

roula
roula
Jul 18, 2022 2:23 PM

https://depts.washington.edu/heritage/Organizations/Russia/Seattle%20AHSGR%20pamphlet.htm#:~:text=Migration%20of%20Germans%20to%20Russia&text=Altogether%20more%20than%20100%2C000%20Germans,powerful%20impacts%20started%20the%20migration.

Add to it the position – one of total unchecked imposition/impostor – of Herman Greff over the Russian ethnos nowadays and the amount of power/free hand the man possesses.
And the entire Romanov dynasty too [ Schleswig Holstein Hohenzollerns].
Also, Germany using the Caucasus and the Caucasian Islam – though no other nation is destroying Islam as much as the official German scholarship – against Russia.
You do not need to study the Generalplan Ost, though you could, and you could add it too.
I strongly recommend a book by Elena Prudnikova ” Катынь. Ложь, ставшая историей ”.
The book details atrocities committed by the Nazi armies when they entered Belarus and Russia with their Generalplan Ost.
Reading experience hard to withstand.
The book available in Russian only, online for free.

roula
roula
Jul 18, 2022 2:58 PM
Reply to  roula

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Lance
Lance
Jul 18, 2022 8:58 AM

Good article, but please stop calling them ‘elites’ . There’s nothing elite about being born in the right place, right time and being devoid of conscience. Maybe ‘parasites’ or ‘plantation owners’ instead?

Hendrick Momsen
Hendrick Momsen
Jul 18, 2022 10:51 AM
Reply to  Lance

I want to add that they are not “globalists” either. While they act together at a global level, they do everything to split us and set us up against each other. The smaller the countries the easier it’s for them.
They hate unions, so they create fake ones to keep us from creating real ones.

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Jul 18, 2022 11:09 AM

They are globalists. In that they aspire to a global government through the UN, WHO etc, with regional powers answerable directly to them

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 19, 2022 9:04 AM

Globalist want global control/government, not global understanding or other peaceful interaction.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Jul 19, 2022 11:08 PM

It’s an inevitable strategy. Being an impersonal amalgamation, it’s impossible to tell the real from the fake.

dan
dan
Jul 18, 2022 11:47 AM
Reply to  Lance

The inbred euro~trash?

R Anand
R Anand
Jul 18, 2022 8:58 AM

Excellent articulation. I enjoyed reading this article.

My eyes took opened in May-June 2020 due to the collective horrors by world governments and companies over a non-existent virus and a non-existed disease.

We saw globally-coordinated lockdowns followed by coerced toxic jabs across all countries. The power grab that this was was palpably visible.

It was not too hard to logically conclude that there were behind-the-scenes machinations among the oligarchs and governments.

Awakening indeed happened. Among many, many of us.

Going forward this will stand us in good stead and we will chip away at the global oligarchs’ power structure every step of the way from now onwards.

Angus McKenzie
Angus McKenzie
Jul 18, 2022 8:52 AM

I would have thought the off guardian was sensitive to conspiracy theory style thinking. As much as population control is an occupation all governments share, the idea that there is no Geo political tension seems a little ott… The analysis that clarifies the conflict in Ukraine is not one that assumes a world conspiracy but one that places this conflict within the context of five hundred years of Western imperialism. Shying from complexity and hiding within the supposed clarity of coincidence is not why I came here.

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Jul 18, 2022 11:09 AM
Reply to  Angus McKenzie

I think it’s pretty obvious why you came here Angus

Angus McKenzie
Angus McKenzie
Jul 19, 2022 10:32 AM

Apparently to you it is but then red pill is right wing term… Government propaganda and bullshit conspiracies seem to be the only two choices today. I’m personally not into either of them.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 18, 2022 8:40 AM

As I said:

The overwhelming majority of the intellectual class fell for the “Nazification of Ukraine” hoax; and now they’re far too embarrassed to admit it.

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 18, 2022 5:59 AM

Tis the Catte’s whiskers.

Antonym
Antonym
Jul 18, 2022 3:17 AM

Being Beijing, top bureaucrats meet masses:
The Chinese capital’s attempt to compel residents to get vaccinated was met with such a backlash that the authorities are unlikely to try it again soon.

(Xi accolite:) But that would be a great shame. China must educate its citizens about the importance of vaccines if it ever hopes to find a way out of the pandemic Xi must be re-selected end of this year, at any cost.

Don’t trust your own observations: trust Great Helmsman Xi and his dominant scien(tolog)tists.

Wuhan, Shanghai etc. were force fed, but Beijing is a different kettle of fish.

les online
les online
Jul 18, 2022 2:20 AM

Locally the assassination of Japanese ex-PM Shinzo Abe had to compete with ‘covid’ surge #? for the corporate propaganda media’s attention and managed to stir some interest for a couple of days…If they didnt want to incite any conspiracy theorising, well someone wasnt deterred:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/when-globalists-crossed-rubicon-assassination-shinzo-abe/5786559

When conducting wargames involving a nuclear armed enemy the use of nuclear weapons are factored in…From Ukraine being the battlefield for the US/NATO proxy war against Russia Western Europe may become the battleground for US/NATO nuclear war with Russia:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-b61-12-mini-nukes-made-in-america-to-be-used-in-a-nuclear-first-strike-coming-soon-to-italy-belgium-germany-netherlands

Placing US missiles in Turkey aimed at USSR leader Khrushchev’s dacha on the other side of the Black Sea led eventually to The Cuban Missile Crisis… History repeats ?

As the corporate propaganda media showed by its Covid Fear Campaign, it should have no trouble convincing the masses of the need for a nuclear first strike again Russia – “before the Russians attack the USA”…

Brianborou
Brianborou
Jul 18, 2022 8:15 AM

The world came to the brink of nuclear war accidentally on a number of occasions!

Xavier Delacroix
Xavier Delacroix
Jul 18, 2022 1:33 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

‘brink of phony nuclear war’

Soon there will be the brink of WW3, which will be hyped to the extreme. It will be as real as Covid. No doubt they will be issuing precautionary iodine injections for the ovines to eagerly queue up for…

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Jul 19, 2022 9:33 PM

The problem with a real “brink of WWIII” scenario ,as opposed to a fake confrontation or an expanded proxy war, is the US military is not capable of fighting and winning an intense multicontinental war these days. Cyberwarfare, satellite warfare, drones, missiles and nuclear attack are the only ways the US can successfully wage war against serious opponents.
As we see the world taking sides over the Russian vs Ukraine narrative, the West (Anglo-American, NATO, EU +Israel) block doesn’t look like its the big bad wolf anymore. As we saw with the recent Biden meeting with Saudi Arabia much of the world is ignoring Uncle Sam.
Maybe just maybe now the oligarchs will pay attention to the war games scenarios and not go to war https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a37158827/us-military-failed-miserably-in-taiwan-invasion-wargame/
But we know the overlords have upped the ante on their goal of massive depopulation so a global nuclear war fits that agenda perfectly as insane as it may seem.

Xavier Delacroix
Xavier Delacroix
Jul 20, 2022 9:07 AM

Just as you don’t need a new disease for a global pandemic (rename flu and lie with stats), so capability doesn’t matter when it comes to WW3.

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Aug 7, 2022 2:53 AM

True

Mucho
Mucho
Jul 18, 2022 12:45 AM

Brendon O Connell has been screaming from the rooftops about htis sort fo thing for aeons. Why dont you contact him and ask him to start writing articles to lay out exactly what he believes is going on, because he has been light years ahead of the pack for so long yet remains relatively unknown. He’s difficult to work with, but so what, anyone who thinks some right on nicer than nice woketard is going to bring the real truth, is mistaken.

Brendon is out there on his own and he needs promoting. He has a coherent narrative and he has the knowledge and the contacts. He fearlessly focuses on Israel Russia and China. You dont have to agree with everythig he says, but if you dont know who he is, his info wil blow your mind. Go on Off G. get him to write for you. We have one chance to unveil these scumbags and get the real truth out there. Tick tock.

8. THE WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM, FOOD, WATER, CRYPTO & STEVE BANNON

Mucho
Mucho
Jul 18, 2022 12:51 AM
Reply to  Mucho

Heres George Bush and Vlad barn dancing at Yeovil aerodrome, hosted by Jet from Gladiators, as prophesised by Alan Partridge

George W Bush and Vladimir Putin Dancing at the Kremlin
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/f4i7CPU_aSY

Mucho
Mucho
Jul 18, 2022 12:57 AM
Reply to  Mucho

The happy couple donning their wizard suits

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Mucho
Mucho
Jul 18, 2022 1:03 AM
Reply to  Mucho

The glue that binds them all

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Mucho
Mucho
Jul 18, 2022 1:04 AM
Reply to  Mucho

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Mucho
Mucho
Jul 18, 2022 1:08 AM
Reply to  Mucho

Russia and Putin are bad invaders says brother Bush

Mucho
Mucho
Jul 18, 2022 1:10 AM
Reply to  Mucho

“Quick its a Brendon O Connell vid, activate the clip scrambler”…..

Yawn

Mucho
Mucho
Jul 18, 2022 1:47 AM
Reply to  Mucho

One of the takeaways from the Convid scam is how the people of Israel are just as much the victims of these scumbags as everyone else. You could say moreso even, given how Israel was the first country to roll out vaccine based segregation – unthinkable when you consider the history of the 20th century. I met a woman who fled Israel for the UK with her family to escape the tyranny they were inflicting on people. Not only that but being designated as Pfizers Lab…..disgusting and shows how those who are doing this really are sh1tting on everyone, they couldnt give a damn about anyone but their own corporate bankster led clique. We all need to unite – Jews, Christians, Catholics, Muslims…..Russians, Brits, Israelis, Americans, Euros, Aussies, Kiwis, Canadians, Africans, people of the Far East……the people of the world….. anyone and everyone with a functioning brain needs to focus their energy on bringing down these scumbags who are doing this to all of us and waking up their fellow man. We see it happening but we need more of it – things kicking off in Europe being a great example.

One route is to get political. This is one of the things that Brendon promotes. The last thing the scumtrollers want is a world of politically active switched on people infiltrating and taking over governments – hence dumbing down and false flag terrorism etc. Terrorism is the CORRECT WORD to describe what these scumbags are engaged in. They are TERRORISTS and should be characterised as such. Covid is terrorism. Expose them for what they are – treasonous commie scumbags, and replace them with real people, real patriots, not these odious pieces of dirt like Johnson, Turdeau, Macron, Rutte, Merkel, Andrews, Arderne…..you know the ones.

Zane
Zane
Jul 18, 2022 2:08 AM
Reply to  Mucho

These turds need to be flushed down a toilet.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 18, 2022 2:10 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Hello Mucho: There is no possibility of “infiltrating” governments without a massive kill-off of those who control the financial and legal systems of the world. These are known individuals such as George Soros, Warren Buffet, Charlie Munger, various Rothschild banking operatives, etc.

People need to understand that political “leaders” are little more than sock puppets for those who control international finance and trade.

Representative and Parliamentary democracies have been a sick joke since inception. The world is run by mafia operatives and black > (underground) nobility.

William Sabre
William Sabre
Jul 18, 2022 9:21 AM
Reply to  Mucho

This happened to me with a censored comedian clip, what is this ‘clip scrambler’ is it YT doing it or Off Guardian site?

I stand in Uk rain
I stand in Uk rain
Jul 19, 2022 10:59 AM
Reply to  Mucho

Gay.

Lucy
Lucy
Jul 18, 2022 12:22 AM

Love it !!!! I really do think they pushed too hard too fast. A lot of people woke up quickly. So many that they had to back off their plan. Let’s keep it up. That the jabs are poison is now obvious and confirmed. People are fighting back.

Josiah
Josiah
Jul 18, 2022 12:02 AM

Well written. I liked the Carlin reference, big club and you “ain’t in it.” Full disclosure, I got the jj jab to continue supporting my wife and sons at a less than desperate level, I’m a nurse. Cowardice? Maybe. I do not encourage my patients to get jabbed, nor boosted, and I would die before I allowed my sons, 15 and 17, to go anywhere near these drugs. But what I really enjoyed was the emphasis, again, of the global class disparity. Fatal flaw. Predictable, but fatal. The sun rises, seasons turn, these are absolutes. And the oppressed revolt. Carry on and good health to you all!

alex
alex
Jul 17, 2022 11:57 PM

MONKEY POX IS USED BY “GM AND GE” TO CHANGE ENGINEER DNA AND IS CALLED A ” GENE VIRAL VECTOR ” ALSO TO MAKE POSSIBLE ELECTRONICALL CONTROLLED HUMANS… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTtIPBPSv0U… DEAR GOD OF GOODNESS PLEASE HELP AND SAVE US ALL FROM EVIL

Rob Rob
Rob Rob
Jul 18, 2022 12:45 AM
Reply to  alex

The vaccines mess up DNA like any toxin… Nothing new.

crispr Gene editing keeps failing and so do these mRNA and viral vectors

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 17, 2022 10:30 PM

I was holding my breath the whole time reading this, and wondering what world the author was talking about, until I got to: “Not for the majority, of course.” – Indeed. And THEY are the ones that will do the job of pulling us down into the abyss.

Despite this and despite the majority belief in horizontal divisions (brilliantly put), I’m not taking sides categorically. I’ll only ever truly root for freedom – which the dummest call “free-dumb.”

Go figure.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 17, 2022 9:21 PM

The overwhelming majority of the intellectual class fell for the “Nazification of Ukraine” hoax; and now they’re far too embarrassed to admit it.

Oh look, Nazis!

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Clifford Whitehead
Clifford Whitehead
Jul 17, 2022 9:07 PM

The one big difference is that the Russian Vax was not an MRNA vax!

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jul 17, 2022 10:34 PM

I believe it was a viral vector injection though. A2

diane
diane
Jul 18, 2022 12:17 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

The patents for the Sputnik were held by Merck and a Finnish biotech.

Rob Rob
Rob Rob
Jul 18, 2022 12:53 AM

It’s not the tech that kills but the toxic chemicals in it.

remember astra zeneca shot is very similar to Russian shots and az has a bad track record just like the MRNA

Dale
Dale
Jul 17, 2022 8:56 PM

Catte, I get that world, including Russia, elected to go mad in 2020. But in the light of the West’s bleeding obvious designs on Russia … what was Putin to do ?

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Jul 17, 2022 9:11 PM
Reply to  Dale

You’re just using the narrative to justify the narrative, mate. MAD has always guaranteed no major war between Russia and the West and that obviously still holds true. This fact alone tells you the current narrative is just nonsense. People have been encouraged to forget that reality and get carried along in these meaningless stories of impending WW3. There will be no WW3 because it would destroy the elites and their playground earth. So you know from that alone the whole war-fear “omg” media frenzy is just BS

Back before 2020 when the Ukraine story was a bit more real Putin knew, and all the war-watchers in alt media knew and everyone with any brains knew, it would be idiocy for Putin to go into Ukraine. Now to get their phony soap opera diversion “war” going they need to create nonsensical reasons why that isn’t true any more. Such ridiculous reasons a person of average intelligence could see through them in a minute, but Scott Ritter and Pat Henningsen and Brian (MI6) Gerish etc recite them as if they make sense – proving most of the war-watchers in alt media are actually pretty dim or are paid propagandists or maybe both.

Dale
Dale
Jul 17, 2022 9:37 PM

What does MAD have to do with the obvious fact that the West and Russia have been engaged in proxy wars since the advent of nukes ?

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Jul 17, 2022 9:56 PM
Reply to  Dale

There’s proxy wars and then there’s proxy wars. A proxy war in Syria, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Georgia, even Chechnya is one thing. A “proxy” war in Ukraine was never seriously tried until 2014 – for a good reason. It ‘s too close and would force a direct nuclear confrontation.

This actually did nearly happen in 2014, and if Russia had not declined to move in to Ukraine in response to the coup it would have happened. But Putin has more sense and even the neocons soon realized they’d gone too far.

So, what’s changed in 2022? Have all the nukes disappeared? Nope. So, why does Putin suddenly see no problem with making the suicidal, potentially world-destroying move he previously was wise enough to avoid?

There’s only one rational answer – he knows it’s no longer a suicidal move. And the only way he would know that is if there was an agreement of some kind with NATO to keep things performative, low key and minimal.

This “war” advantages both sides at a crucial time as the article says. A gentleman’s agreement to make it 99% exercise with minimal civilian deaths and no direct troop confrontation would be a safe way to get that distraction plus fat contracts to repair the damage, so lots of money and incentives there for both sides. And it would also explain the strange lack of evidence for any direct fighting.

Dale
Dale
Jul 17, 2022 11:06 PM

I could swallow a gnat. Under duress, I might stomach a spoonful. But please don’t ask me to swallow the camel of some under-table agreement to allow Putin to eviscerate the West’s proxy, as well as the better part of the West’s weapons reserves – and crater its economies – but as long as it’s low key we’ll keep a lid on the nukes.

Occam’s Razor: against Putin Bad Man, Putin is actually clear-headed, exceedingly patient … and it was high-time.

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Jul 17, 2022 11:28 PM
Reply to  Dale

You need to update your paradigm. You’re stuck pre-New Normal and the globalists are running way ahead. They told us nothing would ever be the same. We should have listened.

Did you miss the blatant attempt to crash the global economy using covid as an excuse? Have you slept through the even more obvious attempt to use the “war” to accomplish what covid didn’t?

News flash – they want to crash the economy! It’s a fast track to the Great Reset.

And everyone knows military hardware exists to be destroyed so more can be bought. That’s the main way public money becomes private money! It’s a major money laundering revenue stream. Why do you think wars get fought? They make money! Raytheon only gets paid once for a bunch of hardware sitting in a hangar, but if that hardware is getting blown up every ten minutes and “needs replacing” – well, now you’re talking.

You seem to not have a clue about the basics of how the world really works.

Your point about “high time” is meaningless and ignores every reality and everything I said.

Oh wait no, I forgot, you couldn’t understand the basic words I used, so I guess it all went over your head

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 18, 2022 10:20 AM

Agree on profiteering. The old armaments are being cleared out. Ref. the Ukraine commercial plane crash in Greece: It was a big Antonov purportedly transporting 20 tonnes or so of mines from Serbia (?) to Bangladesh.

Dale
Dale
Jul 17, 2022 9:46 PM

MAD has not deterred US vs Russia proxy wars of which this is only the latest.

But the word salad was tasty!

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Jul 17, 2022 10:01 PM

Gosh it’s so reassuring to have giant intellects such as RPR to guide us through the maze that those mere mediocrities he mentions can’t even see!

Rob Rob
Rob Rob
Jul 18, 2022 1:00 AM

Paul Craig Roberts had the simple point…

if Russia just shut off the gas that the west claims they weren’t going to buy, they would have NATO and the EU on their knees looking to make peace.

but they keep on fighting like with Syria they never mess with Israel’s illegal invasions into airspace. But Vanessa Beeley and Eva Bartlett will keep the hopium like the ones you mentioned because they still believe that there’s autonomy in a world that has MAD

this stupid fucking belief that he’s fighting with 5d chess is clearly broken and the assholes running Russia still are pushing the convid shit and love the who… Why? If you’re the bad guy, why are you playing nice to the bullies?

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jul 18, 2022 3:53 PM
Reply to  Rob Rob

Just a minor correction: the EU is shutting down it’s own gas supply, it isn’t Russia doing it to them! The EU actually wants gas/oil rationing to force their ‘green agenda’ on a recalcitrant populace.

Milana
Milana
Jul 18, 2022 8:14 AM
Reply to  Dale

How has Putin’s half-hearted supposed “invasion” deterred OTAN or helped his country, supposing this to have been his aim? The Donbas is allegedly being shelled more now not less. If we believe the war propaganda more people are dying not fewer and Putin has given NATO an excuse to provide more weapons not fewer.

Plus we see Finland and Sweden contemplating joining OTAN and the Russian economy struggling as much as the western.

As a move to preserve stability it seems foolish. Putin is not foolish. This lends weight to the suspicion the real motives are to promote the chaos initiated by the non-pandemic.

Your question can be answered by “if his aim was to preserve peace, security and prosperity for his people and to thwart OTAN he ought to have continued to do as he had for the last eight years

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jul 17, 2022 8:56 PM

To see how the game is played I recommend studying the Franco-Prussian war, and particular how and why it ended the way it did. You might need to dig around a bit because popular references get a bit fuzzy but ultimately (IMHO) it came down to ‘If we don’t stop this war then the social order of Europe could get toppled’. When push came to shove class solidarity turned out to be far more important than national sovereignity. (You could say that all the wars in Europe post-Napoleon certainly up to WW2 were basically internecine disputes among the crowned heads of Europe dressed up as affairs of national or imperial importance but none were more obviously played out like this than 1871.)

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 17, 2022 8:55 PM

Spot on, Catte!

Xavier Delacroix
Xavier Delacroix
Jul 17, 2022 8:39 PM

The global Covid psyop is part of a larger apocalypse (unveiling/revelation/awakening). It was always intended for the percipient to recognise the global stage and that there are no independent nations (well, not if their heads of state wish to keep theirs). The percipient are a tiny fraction.

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 17, 2022 8:33 PM

Crucial moment less than a week away with the decision about whether Nordstream 1 will re-open.

Deutsche Bank head discovers his inner Marie-Antoinette and declares let them burn wood:
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/russian-gas-heat-germany-ukraine-energy-nord-stream-deustche-bank-2022-7

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 17, 2022 9:03 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Edwige, Canada says the turbine is on the way already. But something about “add’l turbines will take two years.”? Is there more than one turbine out for repairs right now?

There are hints in the Russian media that re-opening Nordstream 1 may be linked to the EU reining in Lithuania’s continuing blockade of 50% of Kaliningrad’s freight imports.

Going green in deference to the Global Warming hoax is the stupidest thing Germany’s done in awhile.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 17, 2022 8:06 PM

This is a complicated issue, but here goes:

Covid was in some ways a simple matter. The elites all in perfect agreement. There are only really 2 choices. Accept the mainstream narrative, or reject it (alternative media).

Elites in disagreement (whether considered apparent or not) is more complicated. Assuming a simple two-way split (say Nato/US vs Russia/China) you COULD side with one of the elite parties OR with the other. OR you could reject BOTH elites as irrevocably bad.

Siding with one or other of the elite parties, necessarily brings you back to support an elite narrative. Whereas rejecting both elite parties (as both enemies eg bearing a grudge from Covid) retains an alternative perspective

So which to choose? One elite over another, or reject both to be alternative??

I suppose that is where truth comes in and whether the ideological clashes are considered to be real or merely imagined  🤔 

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Jul 17, 2022 8:23 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Their disagreement is at best just a turf war and at worst a bit of theater featuring real death to pull us all into taking sides and abandoning our individuality. Given those two options the only sane choice is to refuse to take part. They want us to take a side and don’t care which side just so long as we’re in the theater watching the show and forgetting our own souls and lives and knowledge of truth.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jul 17, 2022 8:42 PM

I take your point, though I think that these ‘turf wars/ theatres’, as well involving ‘real death’ also (often) involve real issues. Genuine ideological differences. Over which it’s often impossible to be neutral.

Ian
Ian
Jul 18, 2022 3:15 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

But, as long as “reality” as you know it can only be seen through the lens and filters of mass media, echoed by hyped social media, and influenced (controlled, edited, censored) alternatives, “genuine ideological differences” cannot even be started to be tackled.
If basic language and the definition of terms is defiled and raped, even the possibility of minds meeting in productive discourse is reduced to per-literacy, when a few monk scribes hand copied the dictates of a corrupt power-centrist papacy or faced excommunication for not following the status quo.
They might as well be burning witches and heretics, but its more costly to run inquisitions, than to profitably shorten the lives of millions with their own fears and a killer jab while maintaining the blabber on dialectic irrelevances (like climate change, the next pandemic, or next war, WWIII, Iran, Taiwan, take your pick)
While kings and knights scheme and vie for relative power at a pretended “rules based” round table, while de-simulating deafness to any other but their own interest, their peasant minions remain solely tools, masses who can be manipulated, to benefit their (the political elite’s) power and the power of their loyal sponsored (the corporate elite oligarchs’) courtiers.

And the ever poorer peasants wait for a Robin Hood.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Jul 17, 2022 8:06 PM

“I suggest we stop being diverted and deterred, remember the lesson of 2020 and continue on the path of personal and collective awakening they are doing their best to lure us from.”
I could not agree more. Thanks, Catte!

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Jul 17, 2022 7:55 PM

They have effectively created so many layers of division in the West, that by the time a critical mass of the eternally oppressed or virtue signalers wake up, it will be too late.
MSM has today brain washed people to actually defend an injection and agenda that’s intended to kill or inprison them.
Bizarre time to be alive.
God has yet to make HIS move on these demonic minions…

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Jul 17, 2022 8:02 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

NOT just the West though. That’s the point. We’re too used to thinking in those terms but the unipolar days where evil came from one direction only are drawing to a close as predicted by the WEF. The great news is that post-covid the east is an equal partner in evil-doing and our unipolar tyranny becomes multipolar! Yay, choose to be oppressed in Russia or oppressed in Vancouver! A brave new world opens up!

NickM
NickM
Jul 17, 2022 7:26 PM

“And sure there is quite a lot to be gained from “winning” in Ukraine, aside from defeating Nazis.”

Defeating Nazis in Ukraine (and in the rest of Europe, from Kiev to Calais) was the biggest gain from winning in Kursk on July 5, 1943 and hanging the Red Flag over Berlin on May 7, 1945. A secondary benefit was the spread of Socialism and social welfare across Europe; what the French call “les trentes annees glorieuse” after WW2. A minor but not unimportant gain was the development of industry in the Russian Ukraina; I still have those cheap and good Industar lenses, 60 years old and still taking cracking photos to rival my Zeiss and Leica.

As in July 1943 at Kursk, so likewise was there “a lot to gain” from defeating Nazis in March 2022. Once again, in July 2022 de-Nazifying the Ukraina is only the first step toward de-NATzO-fying Eastern Europe.

No NATzO nukes East of Berlin!

As with 60 years ago, the main thing “to be gained” will be peace and prosperity.

How many Green German Girls does it take to open a gas tap?
Does it really take another world war to make people see the folly of promoting Natzoism in Europe?

Jessica
Jessica
Jul 17, 2022 7:39 PM
Reply to  NickM

We seem to be losing peace and prosperity not gaining it, and quite coincidentally achieving everything the Great Reset set out to achieve. And comparing the gaggle of useless losers in Azov to the disciplined Nazi hordes of WW2 is frankly ridiculous and rather desperate.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Jul 17, 2022 11:24 PM
Reply to  Jessica

Unfortunately, the people of Russia who lost approximately 27,000,000 people in the great Patriotic war find it somewhat difficult to think in your terms of the Ukrainian Nazis controlled by the US/ U.K. and the City of London, who by the way if you know anything about the history of Ukraine since 1946 have been doing this, to consider them just as a nuisance.

NickM
NickM
Jul 18, 2022 6:33 AM
Reply to  Jessica

“comparing the gaggle of useless losers in Azov to the disciplined Nazi hordes of WW2 is frankly ridiculous”

Agreed. Biden’s Azov naziz are descendants of Hitler’s Volksdeutch nazis. Not as civilized as the Echtdeutch nazis but what they lost in discipline they made up in “pazzo bestiale” (the bestial frenzy of war — Leonardo daVinci). Same type of human as the Croation Echtdeutch, who shocked German nazis by their ferocity, and whose descendants NATZO likewise exploited to create civil strife, under Clinton/BLiar “Responsibility to Protect”.

By the way, I notice that “the narrative” has shifted from “Highly motivated, highly trained, superbly equipped, bound to be Victorious Ukrainians” to “gaggle of useless losers” and “untrained, poorly equipped pawns”.

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Jul 17, 2022 7:46 PM
Reply to  NickM

Translation: “just shut up, forget 2020 and pick a side like your masters want you to. Think in broad semi-meaningless WW2 tropes and forget that even that war began as an exercise in profiteering, and most of the elite Nazis “committed suicide” (ie flew to Brazil) before they could face justice.”

WeaselBreath
WeaselBreath
Jul 17, 2022 10:17 PM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

And then they woke up and the French Toast was burning

Brianborou
Brianborou
Jul 17, 2022 11:26 PM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

And your evidence is ?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jul 18, 2022 12:05 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

I think the proof is in the pudding to a certain extent when you trace how many Great Reset agendas are being perpetuated via the Ukraine ‘special operation’. Quite a lot of the footage coming out of Ukraine looks a little bit dodgy as well, imho. Let’s keep our minds open, I say 🤷‍♂️

Milana
Milana
Jul 18, 2022 8:03 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I think you mean “the proof of the pudding is in the eating of it”. In other words, the only true test the pudding is good comes from tasting it. The other version you use I think is American and seems robbed of sense. Why would proof of something be in a pudding? How did it get there? English is my second language but this seem clear to me.

NickM
NickM
Jul 19, 2022 11:28 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

“how many Great Reset agendas are being perpetuated via the Ukraine ‘special operation’.”

It’s not Putin who closed Nordstream gas taps and throttles the sale of Russian oil. It’s those silly girls in the foreign office. Gazprom is ready to sell cheap and plentiful gas on stable long term contracts, as they always have done. It was Ursula and her Green Brussels sprouts who insisted on playing the spot market

“My salad days when I was Green in judgment”.

NickM
NickM
Jul 17, 2022 7:48 PM
Reply to  NickM

“On July 17, 1942, the Battle of Stalingrad began, one of the largest engagements in history and the most important stage of the Great Patriotic War. More than 3 Million soldiers and officers clashed in combat, the battle was the turning point in World War II, and the strategic initiative passed to the Red Army.”

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Jul 17, 2022 7:53 PM
Reply to  NickM

Stalingrad! Everyone think about Stalingrad! Get fuzzy about detail and just think that because there were Nazis then and now and there was Russia then and now it must all be the same now as then. DON’T think too much. Just emote on a hazy cloud of word association and race memory.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jul 17, 2022 8:01 PM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

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Brianborou
Brianborou
Jul 17, 2022 11:07 PM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

In English please !

roula
roula
Jul 17, 2022 9:14 PM
Reply to  NickM

Святая память, будь бессмертна!

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jul 17, 2022 11:53 PM
Reply to  roula

“Дженс (а именно я) являюсь воплощением арийской божественности. Преклонись передо мной, крестьянин»”.

roula
roula
Jul 18, 2022 8:08 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

With all due respect.

But I said it as someone above mentioned 3 000 000 Red Army soldiers who died during the Stalingrad battle.
This is what you always say when their life sacrifice is mentioned.
It is a formulaic expression.
This is not a topic for irony for many, myself included.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jul 17, 2022 7:56 PM
Reply to  NickM

“The Only Good Nazi…
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… is a Dead Nazi!”
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“End the Nazi Assassin Terrorist Outfit (NATO), NOW!”

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 17, 2022 8:30 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

The Microsoft logo is also a disguised swastika.

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Jul 17, 2022 9:38 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

That’s just drawing a symbol on top of another symbol though

El Zafio
El Zafio
Jul 18, 2022 12:27 PM

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Xavier Delacroix
Xavier Delacroix
Jul 18, 2022 1:42 PM
Reply to  El Zafio

And they are equivalent to my icon too, just as is the EU flag.

The swastika is a cruciform simplification of the zodiac that also indicates rotation (equinoctial precession).

Also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol)

When you understand the importance of the zodiac you’ll know why it’s so pervasive.

Even the Star of David derives from the zodiacal Seal of Solomon (a 12 pointed symbol combining the vesica piscis).

NickM
NickM
Jul 18, 2022 8:07 PM

Thanks for that info. I used to think they were distinct symbols because the ancient Indo-European (Hindu or Arian ie, Iranian) firewheel has 4 points whereas the Semitic star has 6 points. But if, as you say, both are Zodiacal symbols then there is an obvious connection with the 12 months of the year; and with Babylonian 12-base arithmetic: 12 being divisible by 2, 3, 4 and 6.

Xavier Delacroix
Xavier Delacroix
Jul 18, 2022 8:40 PM
Reply to  NickM

There are 12 months in a year to remind us of the 12 signs of The Zodiac. There are two periods of 12 hours in a 24hr day to remind us of the two periods of 12 millennia in a 24 millennia Great Year. Perihelion = periastron.

The Vesica Piscis is a symbol for the more advanced student of the esoteric, that further explains The Zodiac. Hence the Seal of Solomon neatly combines the two. The Star of David is a simplification of The Seal, just as The Cross is a simplification of The Zodiac.

Once you understand The Vesica Piscis, you’ll know you understand things correctly, i.e. that these symbols aren’t simply dynastic coats of arms.

Bear in mind that 24 millennia is a fundamental ratio – not something chosen by man, e.g. because it is nicely divisible.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Jul 17, 2022 11:32 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

Oh much more than that under operation Paperclip approximately 56,000 Nazis were transferred to the US/ U.K./ Canada / Australia which are all part of the 5 eyes group. In fact Reinhard Gehlen, former senior Nazi intelligence officer, was de facto head of the West German Foreign intelligence service. But none of this should come as a revelation Professor Antony C Sutton wrote books many decades ago, with verifiable documented, about Wall Street/ City of London financing the Third Reich.

Zane
Zane
Jul 18, 2022 2:22 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

Meanwhile the KGB were angelic choirboys singing hymns in harmony and helping rescue stray cats stuck in trees.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jul 17, 2022 8:46 PM
Reply to  NickM

Post-WW2 the elite — or should we just call a spade a spade and call it what it really is, the ruling class / bourgeoisie — had a problem. Pre-WW2 they had quite openly encouraged the fascists because fascism promised, and delivered, a program that was anti-union, anti-socialist and generally aligned with their aims. (…and, of course, anti-Russian) Like countless members of their class before them they fell for this line and only one or two far sighted of their group saw that this was a pact with the Devil so by the time the crunch came it was “all hands to the wheel / we’re in it together” and it was the ordinary people that bore the sacrifice of yet another world war. In order to win this war we had to ally with the USSR which rehabilitated them so in order to get things back to normal (and give the Cold War a flying start) we had to invent a narrative of how good capitalism was for the ordinary person. Hence 30 plus years of prosperity. However, as my (politically active in the 30s) mother warned me there would be a time when the ruling class would want to claw back those gains and starting in the 70s that’s exactly what happened.

The problem for us ordinary people is that the fascists never really went away. I don’t think they will ever be completely defeated, they’re like a parasite that lies in wait for a suitable host. We’re obviously not going to get a repetition of the 1930s, snazzy uniforms, ‘volk’ BS and all, but fascism comes in numerous guises, be it colonels in Greece, authoritarian rulers in South Korea and Taiwan or the generals in South America. They’re tolerated provided they deliver but obviously a fig leaf of democracy is always to be preferred.

The situation today is that a couple of countries that don’t want to play the old empire game have become structured or economically powerful enough that they can’t be taken down by the usual economic warfare tools or disrupted using the various pro-democracy organizations (‘pro-democracy’ has nothing to do with democracy, its whether they play by our economic rules that really matters. But its a good line for the rubes.) It will be interesting to see how things work out. It might, unfortunately, involve a global war because that’s rapidly becoming the only tool left in our arsenal.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 17, 2022 7:11 PM

Just saw the ultimate: a guy on a bike … with a mask! (On the guy not the bike!)

Well I suppose it counts as a triumph if he finally expires through lack of much needed oxygen whilst pumping his feet. At least he didn’t die of … that other thing …. you know … the wee flying barnacles … or something.

diane
diane
Jul 17, 2022 7:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Well on the metro here in Paris the other day there were two ladies complaining how hot it was, and how impossible to breathe : guess what they were both masked up to their eyes!

James Brown
James Brown
Jul 23, 2022 10:43 PM
Reply to  George Mc

He could be wearing it to stop diesel particles so not that crazy.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 17, 2022 7:05 PM

Actually it’s even dumber than that. The Big Show wasn’t so much about all those Big Knobs joining together and singing “I’d Like To Teach The World To Sing”. It was all about how these Big Knobs were forced into it by us, the burrowing minions who absolutely refused to let them ignore covid! Yes, it was us who forced the governments into lockdown and masks and distancing and the struggle for a vaccine!

That’s why the sight of all “our lovely leaders being seen at their international junkets ignoring their own mask rules” wasn’t a mistake at all! It was very much an essential part of the show. They were ignoring our rules! But we brought them back into line: “Come on, people now/Smile on your brother/Everybody get together/Try to love one another right now”

Granted that my memory of how we achieved such an astonishing feat may be a bit hazy and, to be sure, I don’t exactly recall campaigning for lockdown. But it was reported as such a stirring triumph of The People Against Profits so it must be true.

Yadda yadda ….

And if all this is a disaster and no-one’s really buying it, such a sobering conclusion is nowhere to be admitted on the media which churns out the same old drone overandoverandover today as it did 28 months ago.

eman
eman
Jul 17, 2022 7:51 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I difference between this pandemic event and most I gotcha events (like 9/11, pearl harbor, A atom bombing, Viet Nam, invasion of Iraq, war after war, is that the politicians, normally puppets of the elites, were not part of the pandemic planning. The politicians were forced by the privately owned media to join up and they knew only what the media told them in the early times. The politicians were just as sceptical as were the masses as to what to do if anything.. What was happening is that the facts were not fitting the story at any level. Politicians were being sued, by those seeking facts, but the politicians had no facts to share.. It was the global corporate too big to fail monopoly (copyright and patent) endowed planners. In the past the corporate schemers gave their projects to the insider politicians and it was the insider politicians and their bureaucratic helpers who planned all of the prior catastrophic events. In early events the insider politicians were tasked to plan and execute the event, but the Covid project was sophisticated beyond the capacity of the politicians. So the elite charged the corporate planners to both plan and execute the pandemic event. The bio technology lingo was beyond the capacity of the insider politicians to understand.
“We don’t know the language of biotechnology, we don’t understand your statistics, our physicians don’t really understand” explains why the corporate planners instead of the political planners were charged to make the pandemic happen. and it MSM that was charged to keep it on tract.

and the Big Knobs who forced us into lock downs, masks, distancing, and vaccines thought they had us.. But we peeked beyond their blinders, and discovered pure fraud, internationally orchestrated in fashion of profit making beyond our wildest dreams. Extracting billions from our governments to feed their greed. This taste of corporate imposed global private corporatism to replace political public government was soundly rejected..

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Jul 17, 2022 7:57 PM
Reply to  eman

The government is run by the same people who run the media. It’s all one single unit of greed and psychopathy controlling everything. The idea of there being different entities struggling against each other is just put out there for us so we don’t catch on.

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 17, 2022 9:54 PM
Reply to  eman

eman, thanks for pointing out this difference from the usual events– that the politicians were left out of the loop. Best way to block any public debate or hearings, etc. Also blocks the voters showing their dissatisfaction over covid.

Btw, media’s not privately owned, most of it’s publicly owned, listed on stock exchanges, etc. The usual reason given for its failure to be truthful is “It’s dependent on Big Pharma & other advertisers.”

Actually, it’s controlled far more directly, the same way General Motors is: a small block of shareholders own the largest block of stock which might be only 6 or 7%– and therefore get to name the board of directors. Board of directors hires management & there you have it– Media is controlled by a cabal which has long since captured the FCC whose task was once to keep media decentralized.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jul 18, 2022 4:07 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Just a clarification: ‘Public’ in this context means ‘government,’ Penny. Public corporations, such as the US Postal Service, are not floated on stock exchanges.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jul 17, 2022 6:55 PM

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

“To Hell with War! To Hell with Corporate Fascism!”

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Jul 17, 2022 6:27 PM

I’ve made many years ago a simple scheme (simple MMS/3i’s Minds need simple things!) that represents who OWNS and who SLAVES…

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The picture just to show a simple exemple of how They work.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Jul 17, 2022 7:36 PM
Reply to  Voz 0db

The Western Central Bankers, who control the Western governments, weren’t very happy with Putin when he arrested the Rothschilds emissary in Russia when they were economically raping Russia and trying to put the final nail in the coffin of Russia. This little episode didn’t go to plan.

F.W Engdahl article !

https://www.voltairenet.org/article168007.html

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jul 18, 2022 5:58 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

By now its pretty obvious that when anyone refers to ‘democracy’ in our media then its a government in thrall to, and running the policies, of the international bankers. Any country that resists the cartel is labeled ‘autocratic’, ‘non-democratic’ and so on.

Since our democratic camp has included historically a lot of dictators (and our governments quite obviously don’t represent the interests of ordinary people) while those nasty regimes of the other sort hold popular elections and stuff we can be excused for being a bit cynical..

dan
dan
Jul 18, 2022 12:01 PM
Reply to  Voz 0db

And is the Grey Pope at the top of all this?

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Jul 18, 2022 6:34 PM
Reply to  dan

No. The SRF use the tool religion as they see fit.

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Jul 18, 2022 7:29 PM
Reply to  dan

Talking about pope!

Directly from the Vatican (just the left one!)
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The 20 euro silver coin, designed by Chiara Principe, is dedicated to a current theme that is very close to Pope Francis’ heart: treatments to counter the pandemic and the need to be vaccinated. The coin depicts a doctor, a nurse and a young person who is ready to receive the vaccine. The Holy Father has repeatedly stressed the importance of vaccination, recalling that healthcare is “a moral obligation”, and it is important to “continue efforts to immunise even the poorest peoples”.

Benton
Benton
Jul 17, 2022 6:25 PM

The inbreed and somewhat insane so called “elite” need the common man as a unifying enemy. It will lead to their own downfall without this unifying enemy since they would have nothing else to do than turn on each other.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jul 17, 2022 6:19 PM

I decided on the first day of the pantomime that I would never play their fucking game and I haven’t

dude
dude
Jul 17, 2022 6:13 PM

Good one!

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Jul 17, 2022 6:11 PM

Say it sister!

Grigor
Grigor
Jul 17, 2022 6:00 PM

I give this 10 votes and will send a copy to all those unseeingly being pro-American or pro-Russian like if this were a soccer game. Have they lost all their memory?

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 17, 2022 5:59 PM

I posted what’s below to an article about deleting “your period tracking app.” But it applies here as well…

As we know “data is the new oil.” Already pro-life groups have been buying up period tracking app data. If you live in a state where abortion is illegal, every woman from her first period to menopause will now be suspect if she travels to another state. How does the state know if that woman might not be seeking an abortion? Regardless of her position on abortion, she has lost her freedom of travel. One side wants everybody jabbed, (with a “vaccine” that has already shown to cause “spontaneous abortions” and infertility) tracked and traced with a vaccine passport and now, on the other “side”, if you’re female (and ironically if you are jab-free and support health freedom), you will be tracked and traced as she potentially could seek an abortion. What people are not getting is that either way, this is the surveillance of a totalitarian government. It’s a win win for totalitarianism. “My body my choice” was a solid argument against the mandated jabs and as supportive of bodily sovereignty. In my view ending Roe V Wade was primarily a divide and conquer strategy and it worked brilliantly!

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 17, 2022 9:58 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Tom, States don’t involve themselves in the sort of over-reach that you are suggesting. No State wd try to regulate what a person does in a different State.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 17, 2022 10:59 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Per Dr. Toby Rogers:

Imagine, six months after the SCOTUS decision, an 18 year old woman from Texas wants to travel to California to visit a friend. She’s at the airport in Austin. In California, abortion is legal. In Texas it is not. The question becomes, is she traveling to visit a friend, or traveling to have an abortion?
What would prevent any state from setting up checkpoints at all airports and all roads to neighboring states to verify that women of child bearing age are not in fact pregnant and traveling for the purposes of abortion? Vaccine passport systems can easily be converted to pregnancy passports and the woman could be forced to show proof of a negative pregnancy test within 24 hours of travel (as happens now with Covid-19 tests).

Now imagine she actually does get an abortion in California. In California she received a constitutionally protected healthcare procedure. In Texas she is a murderer. So is the woman first and foremost a citizen of the United States or a citizen of Texas? When her plane returns to Austin, will she be arrested at the airport for murder?

The Alito strategy — to leave this matter to the states — cannot be reconciled with the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment that requires that this woman be treated the same, in the eyes of the law, whether she is in Texas or in California.

The vigilante enforcement mechanism of the Texas abortion law deputizes ordinary citizens anywhere in the country to monitor and track women in Texas for this sort of violation. As we speak right now, abortion opponents are buying the data from period tracking apps (used by one-third of all American women) for the purpose of identifying women who might be pregnant and possibly planning an abortion. What is more, in states where abortion is considered murder, fertility and period tracking apps can and will be subpoenaed by law enforcement to see if an abortion may have taken place. Women will live under a cloud of suspicion for the entire length of their childbearing years (first period until menopause). Heaven help any red state woman with an irregular period, controlling spouse/partner, or fondness for travel.

Furthermore, it seems to me that a country cannot have two completely different definitions of murder and still hope to survive as a union. By throwing the matter back to the states — rather than deciding the case on the scientific or Constitutional merits — a majority of states (26) will have one definition of murder, but 24 states and the majority of the population will have a completely different definition of murder. That’s not sustainable.

The Alito opinion, as it is currently written, almost guarantees partition and the eventual dissolution of the United States of America.

~~~~~

I may not agree with Dr. Rogers that the abortion issue will lead to the “eventual dissolution of the United States of America” but it certainly will greatly help in the divide conquer category.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jul 18, 2022 4:24 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

That’s silly. Every state already does have its own definition of ‘murder’ and has since the Union began centuries ago. Because of states’ rights, each state is empowered to run its own criminal justice system and can define crimes that occur within its own state boundaries as it pleases, but it can’t define them for other states.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 19, 2022 1:51 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

I take it you don’t live in a federal system.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jul 19, 2022 2:46 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Are you not aware that each and every state in the union maintains its own criminal code, court system and police? Please tell me you’re not from the US. Then I’ll forgive you!

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jul 18, 2022 4:20 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Because of the ‘full faith and credit’ in the US Constitution, one American state actually can’t regulate what you do in another. If any state tries to pass such an inane law, it will be struck down by the Supreme Court.

rememberingmonkey
rememberingmonkey
Jul 17, 2022 11:07 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

I once thought that pro-life folks were too psychologically well ordered, nice and chill types, but since 2019, you never know.

jiin
jiin
Jul 17, 2022 5:58 PM

great article. brilliant..
Back to being called Catte Black.

Finder
Finder
Jul 17, 2022 5:50 PM

Russia did not take part in the plandemic. Russia and China were victims of the plandemic.

Devin Rice
Devin Rice
Jul 17, 2022 6:49 PM
Reply to  Finder

Also, what data to we have for adverse reactions to Russia’s alternative vax, Sputnik V? Are we forgetting that the mRNA vaxxes aren’t available there?

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Jul 17, 2022 11:00 PM
Reply to  Devin Rice

SputnikV is a gene-manipulation vax just not mRNA. There is no data on adverse reactions because Russia does not publish any

Devin Rice
Devin Rice
Jul 18, 2022 12:32 AM

How do you know Sputnik V is a gene-manipulating vax? Source?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jul 18, 2022 1:47 AM
Reply to  Devin Rice

I believe Sputnik V is a viral vector vaccine and that Russia has been working alongside AZ in various capacities. A2

El Zafio
El Zafio
Jul 18, 2022 12:35 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

There are no viruses, they should be called cell culture muck vector vaccines.

Xavier Delacroix
Xavier Delacroix
Jul 18, 2022 1:47 PM
Reply to  El Zafio

‘Injections of thanatological serum’ is how I’d delicately put it.

Devin Rice
Devin Rice
Jul 18, 2022 3:58 PM
Reply to  Devin Rice

Also, 60-plus countries are using Sputnik V. I’m sure we would have heard about all the adverse events from many of them by now.

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Jul 17, 2022 7:48 PM
Reply to  Finder

Oh puhleeeeeeeeze 😩

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 17, 2022 10:08 PM
Reply to  Finder

Finder, Head of China’s CDC attended Event 201. And China put out the videos of people “dropping dead of covid”. At this moment China continues pretending to believe that covid requires lockdown, while her lockdown is really participation in the supply-chain destruction which degrades the global economy and will eventually cause famine.

Russia– among much other elite-cooperation– came out w a monkeypox vaxx of its own about a month ago. (meaning foreknowledge & willingness to participate in another “pandemic”.

Diva
Diva
Jul 17, 2022 5:42 PM

Finally someone stated the obvious. Been waiting for anyone in so-called alt media to take off the blinders

jiin
jiin
Jul 17, 2022 6:56 PM
Reply to  Diva

Catt definitely sees it and says it.

Dale
Dale
Jul 17, 2022 9:05 PM
Reply to  jiin

But does she ?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jul 18, 2022 2:04 AM
Reply to  Dale

Genuine question or thought-terminating cliche?