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Waking Up in a Nightmare

Todd Hayen

One thing this global awakening (at least an awakening for me and my fellow shrews) has made me realize is that we all have been living in utter hell for quite some time. I won’t speak for you, but for me it seems all of the advancements in technology have not really done a damn thing to support the human spirit.

Sure, we may live longer, we don’t have parasites continually gnawing on our flesh, we don’t have rampant infections and internal horrors raging within our bodies (not usually but becoming more and more prevalent with cancer), we get to drive around in cars, fly all over the world, watch TV, play video games on the computer or our phones.

Yahoo.

Yes, technology is also responsible for a lot of good things, like ease of procuring food, clean water, etc. but stay with me here.

Medical technology has done wonders to relieve much human suffering. Or has it? I am not a medical historian, but I have read often enough that today we have more diseases, more ailments, more heart troubles, more this more that.

How many times have you heard from the mouth of a centenarian that the key to his or her longevity is staying out of the doctor’s office?

Statistics show that hospitals are one of the most dangerous places to be. Of course there is more to it than this, but you know what I am getting at.

There certainly are enough people scrambling to get off the grid—throw away the cell phone, the TVs, the Internet, live miles from hospitals and doctors. Bush living—isn’t that letting go of most technology saying to hell with it?

Have you ever thought about how people fare in the third world where there is no national health service, very limited access to a doctor’s care, very little medical technology available? How do the millions out in the glorious countryside, miles from big cities, tending their sheep or goats, living a family life, dancing, laughing, and crying when grandma dies a natural death? How do they fare?

This probably describes much of the global population.

Sure, due to their limited access to medical services there are medical issues these people experience that would curl our toes as we live in our comfy first-world environment, but still…people may not live as long (or do they?) but they do survive, and probably live a decent life if protected from all the other things in the environment that could harm them (again, bad things out there essentially due to technology and the wonton poisoning of urban areas).

I could be talking out of my butt here…I am sure this sort of information (that people without medical services living the natural life are doing ok) is largely kept from us, but it seems the actual thing that makes people unhealthy in the rest of the world is hygiene, lack of clean water and nutritional deficiencies (lack of anything to eat)—all things that can be easily attributed to our advancement in technology (and its subsequent misuse), the resulting pollution, GMO and pesticide disasters, etc.

Am I wrong? Anyone out there reading this who are experts on this sort of thing want to set me straight? Please do…I would like to be better informed.

This topic is complicated. Of course the powers that be want us all to think that if it weren’t for the WHO, doctors, vaccines, and medical science, half the world would be dead by now.

That may actually be true, but what exactly would be killing us?—the natural world?—or the man-made world? It would be difficult to make this assessment, due, obviously, to the fact that there is no place on earth not infected by the greedy, and often evil, hand of man.

Other than medical issues, how else has technology diminished our lives? From a very broad perspective, what has gone down hill as technology has advanced up hill? Violence? Disease? Depression? Suicide? Anxiety? A feeling of meaninglessness? Less true happiness (being high with adrenalin and other ingested drugs doesn’t count), Loss of family values? Child abuse? Drug abuse? Alcoholism? Pedophilia? Isolation and abandonment?

Should I go on? What could you add to this list?

Correlation without causation? Maybe. But this is something I believe we should all think about a bit more than we do. For one example, I can’t tell you the number of times I have seen articles on how guns were in the culture in the ‘50s and earlier with little or no problems.

Gun clubs at schools where young people brought in rifles to target practice—no killings there. Clearly it isn’t the gun, and I am sorry to drill in that ubiquitous mantra from gun advocates, “guns don’t kill people, people do”—as much as that statement has problems, foundationally it is true.

The fact that it always takes a person behind a gun to cause damage and decades ago, before the erosion of the culture, people were not as apt to blow away children in the schoolyard. The very real reason why suddenly things are so different in our world is not seriously addressed—not at all, in fact.

What does the advancement of technology have to do with gun violence? Well, nothing directly other than more advanced automatic weapons, which does have something to do with the problem.

In fact, the evolution of technologically advanced killing machines is a huge part of the problem. Obviously we all know the entire planet could be incinerated with the click of a switch. Thanks to technology.

Technology has attributed, maybe more indirectly, to gun violence in all the fundamental ways this article suggests: the degradation of the culture, the focus on consumerism and materialism rather than human values and character, the isolation and abandonment of the young (particularly young males) the loss of soul and spirit, and thus the loss of human morals, i.e. the loss of love.

Am I being too extreme here? By the manner I am talking the only truly safe place to be a human lies in caveman times. I doubt if it is feasible to jump back into the past to such a simple existence.

Maybe to naturally bring us to a reset (oh, that word!) it will take a Noah type flood where everyone is wiped off the earth (a nuclear bomb, or several of them, are good modern replacements for a flood, or better yet, a killer virus!

Or even better yet, the killer vaccine for a virus!!) Or, can we make these important adjustments without having to start over from scratch? Can we be responsible with advancements in technology and stop making the mistakes we’ve been making just because the technology has to be profitable in order to be worth creating?

Can we train ourselves to not be so obsessed with consumerism? Or not be so obsessed with living forever (our relentless pursuit to perfect the human body with technology), or avoiding the commonly experienced pains and sufferings of the body? What is it from the past that we had that we no longer have that kept all of this in some sort of sublime order?

I believe we had more of an understanding of our spirit and soul than we do now. Yes, a lot of that awareness was brought to us through religion, but unfortunately as the materialist paradigm descended upon us religion lost its stature. We need to come back to a deep awareness of nature, and our part in it, to understand that we were designed to live and subsequently die a particular way (in harmony with nature and with an acute awareness of the mystery of creation surrounding us). We must learn to love again.

I for one would rather not return to being a caveman.

And I may be very unfair to blame technology per se for the troubles we see in our culture. Maybe it is more accurate to say it is the intention behind the advancement of technology that pulls us away from nature and away from our natural way of being. Whatever the detail and nuance, I stand by the general analysis I have made here.

We seem to have always been aware of the dangers of the advancement of AI, robotics, etc. But in my view our concerns have been expressed primarily for the wrong reasons: robots and advanced AI being a threat to our physical dominance over our environment, i.e., taking our jobs, being relegated to slavery by the “machines” etc.

Not many people seem to be concerned about our loss of soul, our loss of humanity, our loss of being human, and our loss of a connection to God. Yes, I said it, the “God” word. I mean it too.

That, to me, is the real threat, and if not addressed properly, it will be responsible for our eventual demise.

Todd Hayen is a registered psychotherapist practicing in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. He holds a PhD in depth psychotherapy and an MA in Consciousness Studies. He specializes in Jungian, archetypal, psychology. Todd also writes for his own substack, which you can read here

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nosuch
nosuch
Jul 25, 2022 10:49 PM

As a species we are endlessly fascinated by our own inventiveness. Add in a finacial system designed to funnel wealth into the gullets of the greedy few at the bottom of the funnel ( I utterly reject the pyramid model which implies those at the top are better than those below) which needs continual growth to prevent its ponzi like implosion and mass marketing via the propaganda industry and here we are, drowning in needless crap.

Can we extract ourselves as a species from this predicament?

I see no evidence we can.

TDj
TDj
Jul 26, 2022 12:05 PM
Reply to  nosuch

As long as history education, in every nation, ‘neglects’ to mention the governmental, military and Central Banking intelligence services control, from ‘Aladdin’s HFTs to the NSA, including their Collective Collusion in the destruction of Public records within WTC7, after literally just Losing track of $$$ 2.3 Trillion $$$ , the day before the controlled demolitions… We’re doomed to consume crap. I was working in the Square Mile the moment that the Enron ‘Valhalla 87’ scandal hit the Rotating oscillator: I had followed that specific second largest US corporation, both at The behest of my CEO, professionally and personally, because of speculative new Weather Derivative Funds managed officially First on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange 1997. Imagine, My disappointment, when the SEC investigation into ENRON, got ‘lost’ in WTC7, Like so many other public records. From the IRS, SEC &&& 17 Government National Security Agencies (Hillary would say), what a shame: $2.3… Read more »

Kaite
Kaite
Jul 25, 2022 9:41 PM

….and THAT is why people are happier and healthier living in a rural environment!

niko
niko
Jul 25, 2022 12:44 AM

It seems a/the central problem of technology is ordinarily omitted from consideration of its pros and cons: who controls ‘it’. As ‘it’ is, because of these controlling interests, or proverbial owners of the means of (re)production, it’s rare to come across much careful consideration at all of technology’s impacts upon us. It’s in their interests to have us plebs and proles simply being techno-idolaters worshipping at the high altar of Science (and its monopolization of knowledge as power), believing in the grand narrative of Progress (for them, not us), and otherwise numb and dumb before technologies controlling us far more than their prophesied conveniences deliver anything substantive or real, especially on a planet of people dispossessed and immiserated by technological means. All this generally serving mass formation, or mass formation psychosis, of subjects alienated from control over their/our own lives while being reduced to little to nothing more than resources… Read more »

austrian peter
austrian peter
Jul 24, 2022 5:39 PM

I do agree with what you say but regrettably we cannot ‘uninvent’ our technology. The vast increase in communications has made our world very small and social media has enabled the instant exchange of information, but mainly garbage. Email has improved the written word but has become sloppy. Moving pictures have replaced our own internal pictures gained when reading and writing. Mental arithmetic has been submerged under instant electronic calculation. Critical thinking is disappearing fast as we allow others to think for us and of course they ply us with dis & misinformation. Verbal exchange, person to person, has been supplanted by the ‘iPhone’ and thus we have lost the ability to read body language and subtle signals of deep meaning. We are immersed in a caustic web interpersonal competition instead of the cooperation required when we lived in groups and families. In short, the centralised, top-down, techno world we… Read more »

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 24, 2022 6:24 PM
Reply to  austrian peter

I am actually quite curious as to why our intellectual evolution has led us to a technologyl that is more destructive than beneficial. Your guess is as good as mine. You make my point with everything else you have said. Obviously we cannot “un-invent” technology, but I do wonder why we seem so resilient to its negative effect. This current situation is a sped up microcosm of what we have been experiencing for centuries. IF (and I am only saying this to illustrate a point) this Covid vaccine were indeed a sincere and benevolent venture into using technology to save the world, and it failed, why can’t the masses just say “hey, THAT didn’t work, lets try again”…instead they ignore, deny, accommodate, or shrug their shoulders and say “oh well, that’s just the way technology is, we have to live with it”…sure this does happen with certain things…but typically if… Read more »

Blind Gill
Blind Gill
Jul 24, 2022 6:56 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Technopoly – Neil Postman. It doesn’t answer this directly but shows the unintended consequences around eg the printing press and how we’re repeating. There is a concerted effort to throw things out there without thinking and I always think with such carelessness comes real invention. There’s an obsession with order too which can lead to chaos.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 24, 2022 9:57 PM
Reply to  Blind Gill

Very good point…

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 25, 2022 4:05 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Most of the most consequential technology we face today, electronics, the computer, the internet were developed by the military for military purposes and later privatized for private profit. Technology is not neutral, it doesn’t “just happen” – some technologies are developed and others not, technological development is directed to serve a narrow set of interests. That idea that the march of technology is inevitable and just happens the way it does is propaganda just as the “deadly virus” is propaganda. Technologies are developed not to benefit humanity but to benefit someone’s bottom line. And now technological development (note the neutral term) has led humanity to the door of mass enslavement.

richard
richard
Jul 27, 2022 10:04 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

The knife was invented and developed for useful purposes, but you can stab somebody with it…
Maybe we should have stuck with stone implements but hey… you can still batter somebody with a lump of rock…

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 28, 2022 1:31 AM
Reply to  richard

Different epoch dude.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 24, 2022 9:43 PM
Reply to  austrian peter

Something (else) to look forward to,

https://www.bitchute.com/video/9HQcyWgM0q9C/

austrian peter
austrian peter
Jul 24, 2022 10:13 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

Wow, PS! Boston Dynamics are damn good – we have progressed a long way since I last saw robots in action years ago. Who knows where it will end up by 2030. I never cease to be amazed at what I don’t know. Many thanks for shining some light on this subject.

Returning your compliment: The crawly thing reminded me of my childhood when we made cotton reel ‘tanks’ using a slice of candle, a matchstick and a rubber band and a lever:

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 25, 2022 12:29 AM
Reply to  austrian peter

They really are good, scarily good, and they’re just showing the ones ready for public consumption. But, every good dystopia needs a robot dog.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 25, 2022 7:44 AM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

Any such maker needs authoritarians to pilot-test the products. Singapore was testing the “dogs” over a year ago. Its covid tracking was by (a) a device in the pocket for the masses, not a phone app (b) ankle bands for violators.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 27, 2022 7:28 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

Ort
Ort
Jul 27, 2022 9:06 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

On a lighter note, I never get tired of this one:

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 28, 2022 2:11 AM
Reply to  Ort

Haha!

Sleeper. I haven’t seen that for about 45 years.

Stewart
Stewart
Jul 28, 2022 11:44 AM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

assuming these things aren’t just CGI (which I personally don’t) they still don’t make any sense
they are crazily expensive to make, each one will undoubtedly require a team of skilled technicians and expensive spare parts to keep them running and all will be vulnerable to hacking/EMP/human error
this is just more fear porn from the sad illusionists that have persuaded us they control us (may they get EVERYTHING they deserve)

Hamish
Hamish
Jul 26, 2022 11:25 AM
Reply to  austrian peter

They could do with a fitness challenge.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 24, 2022 1:38 PM
Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 28, 2022 2:12 AM

Well, enjoy it while it lasts; it’s going to get worse.

Zane
Zane
Jul 24, 2022 11:15 AM

Things are starting to happen in China.

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 24, 2022 8:58 AM

The meaning of Life is not ’42’ and it’s not between our ears.
It is love.

El Zafio
El Zafio
Jul 24, 2022 7:52 AM

There are no infections, we just cleaned up our act. Pls Todd, it’s been almost three years now.

Rob Rob
Rob Rob
Jul 24, 2022 3:15 PM
Reply to  El Zafio

Yep another scam just like polio…

http://www.williamengdahl.com/englishNEO12July2022.php

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 24, 2022 9:51 PM
Reply to  Rob Rob

C’mon, man! They just found some “polio” in some poop in Stepney.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 24, 2022 3:16 PM
Reply to  El Zafio

Can you explain what you think I should do?

Eva Bernodt
Eva Bernodt
Jul 24, 2022 6:17 AM

Thanks for this excellent writing! Eva Bernodt Sweden

NickM
NickM
Jul 24, 2022 6:15 AM

It’s only a nightmare if you dream they are World Leaders:

http://dxczjjuegupb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/word-image-66573-5-897×1024.jpg

NickM
NickM
Jul 25, 2022 10:26 AM
Reply to  NickM

“Ivy League mediocre trash running the Asylums in North America & Europe, many unelected, serving private interests, in the main treasonous leaches, divvying up land & resources in a Public Pay-to-Play Ponzi Scheme, later assured of a Revolving Door, Eat As Much As You Like Golden Lottery Ticket with an 8 figure signing on bonus, $5k a Head After Dinner Speeches to Bankers & TBTF and a slurry of Directorships from same, all served to the Public with a straight face in One Giant Circle Hump.”

NickM
NickM
Jul 24, 2022 5:58 AM

The fading away of a purple nightmare. World sanctions map:

http://dxczjjuegupb.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/word-image-66580-3.jpg

NickM
NickM
Jul 24, 2022 5:46 AM
Mike Perceval
Mike Perceval
Jul 24, 2022 5:30 AM

Great piece Todd! You’ve nailed many of the important connections between technological advancements and our present malaise – and worldwide cultural collapses. But I believe you missed one that is a significant contributing factor (among several) in regard to gun violence against innocent people of all sorts; the technologically sophisticated video games that immerse the players in a virtual reality that definitely desensitizes the individual to the moral imperative, ‘Thou shall not kill (murder).’

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 24, 2022 2:28 PM
Reply to  Mike Perceval

Agree with you 100%. Thank you. This not only includes video games but other visual media like movies and television.

Nicholas Creed
Nicholas Creed
Jul 24, 2022 3:44 AM

I am not sure about God, or Allah or any single God. I think they are all one and the same. I believe in Gaia, the primordial Goddess of earth. Ayahuasca shows that the most important connection we have lost is our symbiotic connection to nature. I don’t mean that in the climate scam sense either. I mean it as the author does here; people are disembodied and disensouled, having become empty vessels and soon to be transhumanists en masse.

Reject it. Stay human.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 24, 2022 5:07 AM
Reply to  Nicholas Creed

Dumb

The Chief stared at the government official then replied, “When white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women did all the work. Medicine man free. Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing; all night having sex.”
Then the chief leaned back and smiled, “Only white man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that.”

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 24, 2022 5:14 AM
Reply to  Nicholas Creed

Insane

Man is the most insane species. He worships an invisible God and destroys a visible Nature. Unaware that this Nature he’s destroying is this God he’s worshiping.
— Hubert Reeves

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 24, 2022 2:29 PM
Reply to  Nicholas Creed

God is an easy term to use rather than writing a paragraph trying to explain the ineffable. I understand what you are saying….

James Robertson
James Robertson
Jul 24, 2022 2:19 AM

‘People were not as apt to blow away children in the schoolyard.’ These are staged events you dolt.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 24, 2022 3:51 PM

I am the dolt? Thanks…

Did I say it wasn’t a staged event? I simply said people were not apt to blow away school kids a few decades ago…for whatever reason, which could include a staged event.

austrian peter
austrian peter
Jul 24, 2022 5:53 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

The fact that an author takes care to read and reply to the many comments sets you apart from most. I applaud your dedication and thank you for your wisdom. Write more please.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 24, 2022 10:01 PM
Reply to  austrian peter

Thank you…your words are very appreciated. Sometimes I wonder if me coming into this forum is like mom breaking up a teen poker game in her son’s bedroom (you now know how old I am, I don’t think teens have secret poker games anymore.)

I will be supplying OG an article every Saturday…I also have a substack with a link in my bio right after the above article…thanks again…!!

austrian peter
austrian peter
Jul 24, 2022 10:19 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Great – I look forward to reading with interest Todd – I guess we are of the same generation; in my case it was 3 card Bragg, Pontoon and Indian Poker – nuff said 🙂

County Girl
County Girl
Jul 24, 2022 9:08 PM

Your rudeness to the author of this piece says everything I need to know about you and your character.

les online
les online
Jul 24, 2022 1:21 AM

I was sat, taking a rest from a gabfest at a locals gathering…A young girl, maybe 4 years old, whose mother i was acquainted to, picked up from the floor near me a dead moth…She offered it to me, her arm outstretched, her eyes focused intently on my hands, as if magically wishing them to open and accept the gift… I was about to offer my open hand to receive her gift when the girl’s mother, ever alert and protective of her child, saw the child’s doing, and sprung to action… Within a blink the mother seized the child’s arm and with a whipping – and often applied – motion flicked the girl’s arm to loosen her grip on the dead moth – while berating the child to not pick up, or play with, such “dirty things”…And admonished “That man didnt want that dead thing, anyway.”… The child was being… Read more »

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 24, 2022 5:00 AM
Reply to  les online

The moth was probably killed by pesticides.

Zane
Zane
Jul 24, 2022 11:06 AM

Aren’t you the cheery one.

Ort
Ort
Jul 24, 2022 9:34 PM

Nah, I think it far more likely that the poor moth was killed by glancing off the mother’s psychic helicopter blades.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 24, 2022 9:53 PM

Convid.

Howard
Howard
Jul 24, 2022 1:35 PM
Reply to  les online

The little girl may also have thought you might be able to “cure” it of its being dead. Children often do attribute great powers to adults. It’s such a shame the mother didn’t allow her to finish playing out whatever it was she intended.

They always say they don’t always understand children. Is it any wonder?

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 24, 2022 3:53 PM
Reply to  les online

Such an important story…teaching a child not to be a human being…very troubling.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 6:29 PM
Reply to  les online

bang on, that’s the “mothers” or “parents” of today, 99% do what nanny state says.. fuck yer mum, fuck yer granmum and all those who facilitated you and came before, and fuck life… just do what the midwife and nanny state say. etc
: /

Steph Amson
Steph Amson
Jul 23, 2022 10:48 PM

The most egregious error of today’s society is the adult educational system where people have to sign away their life to get a degree in something that may not result in gainful employment, especially in the arts. The population should be able to pursue their interests and purpose with the support and tutelage of those who are experts without ransoming their financial future.

Proletarius64
Proletarius64
Jul 24, 2022 5:30 AM
Reply to  Steph Amson

Indeed..
”When your education limits your imagination it’s called indoctrination” To prevent and direct change within the individual. The Principals of Secondary Education Alexander James Inglis. 1918 Carnegie Rockefeller funded book. They’ve never looked back.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 6:35 PM
Reply to  Steph Amson

conversely, we don’t need thousands of nuggets with a degree in perverted semantics and their precious, identified opinion!! especially if it is just to show very (below) average people can sort of type and use spell check and pass their examiners demands.

fuck education, because it is not!!!!!
its a fucking joke. and fuck all the fucking muppet moron thickos too, pretentious cunts that still affirm some “meritocracy” .

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 23, 2022 10:22 PM

Thinking about George’s comment below: Any day now, I expect my refrigerator to become self-aware.
After that, it will probably be difficult to access fresh food.
Interesting times…

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 24, 2022 10:01 PM
Reply to  wardropper

The Internet of Things, eventually evolving into the Internet of Bodies.

“Hello Wardropper, this is Melvin, your Friendly Fridge. You are getting low on roach milk and eggs. Would you like me to order some for you? Same day drone delivery. Also, the vegetable marrows are getting a little past their prime. Shall I order you some fresh ones? “

zacaway
zacaway
Jul 23, 2022 10:12 PM

If you haven’t already, you should read Ted Kazanski, he covers this theme.

Essentially, technology & industrialisation create dependency. You can benefit from the wonders this brings, but only if you submit to being part of the system – being a cog in the wheel of industrialisation. This inevitably means a loss of freedom.

Secondly, if all your physical needs are provided by the system (assuming you submit to its demands), what is your purpose? What do you live for? You exist only to maintain the system. This is what creates the feeling of loss of purpose is modern man.

The only solution Kazanski proposes is a revolution against the entire technological & industrial system. The alternative is technological slavery.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Jul 24, 2022 2:00 AM
Reply to  zacaway

His motive for sending bombs in the mail.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 24, 2022 5:01 AM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

Probably a patsy.

zacaway
zacaway
Jul 24, 2022 12:04 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

Kinda, I think the point of that was mainly just to get attention so people would read his manifesto.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Jul 24, 2022 1:19 PM
Reply to  zacaway

I fought that one off. Not going there.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 24, 2022 7:38 AM
Reply to  zacaway

Kazynski made the same point as Eugene Debs: when confronted successfully, the Borg (oligarchy) pretends to concede, and then bides its time to renege.

Ort
Ort
Jul 24, 2022 9:31 PM
Reply to  zacaway

Close, but his name is Theodore John Kaczynski.

He’ll die in prison, but he deserves to have his name spelled correctly.  😉 

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 24, 2022 10:02 PM
Reply to  zacaway

Video games and drugs.

K. Cavan
K. Cavan
Jul 23, 2022 10:07 PM

On the subject of medicine & science, in the Middle Ages there were 11 killer diseases that stalked mankind, ten of them were eliminated by fresh water supplies & sewerage, one, Smallpox, was eventually cured by Science.

jiin
jiin
Jul 23, 2022 10:11 PM
Reply to  K. Cavan

smallpox, was eventually cured by Science.

bullshit

Proletarius64
Proletarius64
Jul 24, 2022 5:38 AM
Reply to  jiin

“are vaccines beneficial they’ll hold up the cross and say they wiped out smallpox and it wiped out polio”
Dr John Bergman provides the evidence to the contrary.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HWBJt2oTlo7q/

Steph Amson
Steph Amson
Jul 23, 2022 10:37 PM
Reply to  K. Cavan

Yes smallpox was eliminated but by administering the lesser cowpox which provided immunity to the related smallpox. That’s what I’ve read but you sometimes can’t trust the historical record, nevertheless ultimately smallpox seems to have been eliminated.

However this method has not even a nodding acquaintance with spike protein vax’s, which do not provide immunity.

Mark EL
Mark EL
Jul 24, 2022 8:14 AM
Reply to  Steph Amson

There are many sources explaining the reality of ‘smallpox’ and its ‘cure’; please read one.

Here’s an example: http://whale.to/v/hadwen1.html

jiin
jiin
Jul 24, 2022 8:35 AM
Reply to  Steph Amson

Its looks like K. CavanProletarius64 & your self in the same 77 office.

from saying covid is real to now saying the vaccine is a life saver.

Sophie – Admin1
Jul 23, 2022 10:17 AM

A few shills below trying to turn back time and soft peddle the covid narrative. So, let’s reiterate –
“Covid” is a scam.
The “symptoms of covid” are ALL symptoms of normal seasonal illnesses.
EDIT – Yes that includes loss of taste and smell , so please don’t bother to tell us how weird it is that it happened to you. It happens every year to some people.
For more information to help you navigate the propaganda matrix see our Covid Cribsheet

Art Costa
Art Costa
Jul 24, 2022 11:43 AM
Reply to  K. Cavan

Smallpox was eradicated by the same improvements in clean water and sewage in urban areas where this was mostly found. Jenner’s inoculation was responsible for countless deaths). For more on smallpox and Jenner: Edward Jenner and the True History of Smallpox | NewBraveWorld

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 23, 2022 7:54 PM

I keep thinking the TV can’t get any weirder and it always does. Tonight is a good example. But first a bit of background: Here in Southwest Scotland it’s overcast and pissing down and cold! So on the BBC news, I catch the end of a sports programme i.e. a programme not normally known for making weather forecasts. But the guy says, “And it’s the hottest day yet in the new normal” (An odd turn of phrase but I’m sure that’s what he said.) And as the scene was about to dissolve into the next item, the guy was grinning and looked on the verge of laughter. Next up: gloomy music, scenes of forest fires, doleful tones telling us about the “unprecented heat”, the “danger to health” etc. Cue thermo-nuclear weather maps. Cue talking heads about to … And I just had to walk away. And watch the rain bucketing… Read more »

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Jul 23, 2022 10:00 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Disappointing. I thought the Ayrshire coast was going to become the new Côte d’Azur.

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Troon, 2030

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 23, 2022 10:27 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

OT but it really is a stab to the heart that the future won’t include the beauty that is that car.

Or maybe it will.

Only we can decide.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Jul 24, 2022 2:05 AM

It will for some. Just like private jets. Along with wholesome fresh foods with real meat. Bill Gates will be one of them.

Eddison Flame
Eddison Flame
Jul 24, 2022 12:24 PM

Maybe we shouldn’t give up hope yet. Times are dark, but we haven’t seen the end of this yet. There is an awakening happening, and anyway,I think we should take the authors suggestion about God seriously. So seriously that we consider truly that there is a God, (But not as typically portrayed by modern science, media, and some religious zealots). I am taking about the actual creator of the universe who loves us and has wanted all along for humans to live in harmony with one another, and had been slowly showing us just how to do so. He has been teaching us to love. But forces of evil have been leading us astray, (making us selfish and lazy). The old cosmology about good and evil is probably much more accurate than anything we have in the modern world. At least in terms of moral development. The God of old… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 24, 2022 2:51 PM
Reply to  Eddison Flame

Sorry you feel that way, Eddie …
To paraphrase Primo Levi (yes, it’s an “either/or”), “Auschwitz existed, hence there can be no god. I find no way out of this dilemma. I have tried and tried but it escapes me”.
Yours would be the same god who commanded Abraham to sacrifice his own son to prove his submission. The vengeful, wrathful one, that will smite our enemies provided we bow down as low as we can.
C’mon, Eddie, that jazz ain’t gonna get the donkey out of the shed.

Ort
Ort
Jul 24, 2022 9:26 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Oh, God said to Abraham, “Kill me a son”
Abe says, “Man, you must be puttin’ me on”
God say, “No.” Abe say, “What?”
God say, “You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin’ you better run”
Abe says, “Where do you want this killin’ done?”
God says, “Out on Highway 61”

— Bob Dylan, “Highway 61 Revisited” (1965)

Eddison Flame
Eddison Flame
Jul 25, 2022 1:09 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

So, you argue that because God allows humankind to do as we will, to have free will, then this means there is no God? Because God allows people to do evil, then God must not exist? Maybe this life is more like a video game than we tend to realize – in this game, we are the players. To God, dying and suffering here isn’t a big deal. Those who suffer eventually exit the game, see that it was only temporary, perhaps even remember that they signed up for it in the first place, and then accept that the suffering was nothing major at all. Perhaps, in view of an eternal life of peace, that short period of suffering actually is nothing at all. From our perspective inside the game, it seems terrible, from his perspective it is clear that everything will be okay in the end. This may explain… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 25, 2022 3:45 PM
Reply to  Eddison Flame

Shame you can’t take up your nonsense with Primo Levi. I couldn’t even tie his shoes. Sadly, he was suicided some time ago …
You have read Primo Levi, haven’t you?

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 24, 2022 10:05 PM

In the metaverse, you won’t need that car; you can do whatever you want or go wherever you want, all without ever leaving your couch. You won’t need that car, but in the Metaverse, you can have it, whenever you want.

Blind Gill
Blind Gill
Jul 23, 2022 11:26 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Maybole on sea.😆

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Jul 24, 2022 5:10 AM
Reply to  Blind Gill

Lugton-sur-Mer

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 24, 2022 9:47 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Memo to Broooosie: This is the way to do it!

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 7:24 PM
Reply to  Blind Gill

as we say around these airts… “if ye want yer hole, go to Maybole,” : /
croy shore is maybole on sea.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 24, 2022 9:42 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

The Ayrshire coast, along with every other part of the UK (and probably the world in general), is coming to resemble one of those seedy run down dumps hymned in Boss Broooosie’s “Nebraska” album. Not that BB will ever have to worry about those places he roared about but clearly doesn’t have to live in.
 

Now I’ve been lookin’ for a job, but it’s hard to find

There’s winners and there’s losers

And I’m south of the line

Well, I’m tired of gettin’ caught out on the losin’ end

But I talked to a man last night, gonna do a little favor for him

Ain’t that sad? Kinda makes you want to throw him some money!

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 6:51 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

nah man, it’s costa del covid with a strong ‘gers eternal breeze, argh

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 23, 2022 10:17 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Scotland will never change… 🙂

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Jul 23, 2022 10:48 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Oh, but it has, it has. Like almost every country in department of TheWest™ plc, Scotland is now full of forelock-tugging office drones and culpably-gullible, screen-addicted wee fannies. The last three years have given ample proof of that.

Blind Gill
Blind Gill
Jul 23, 2022 11:28 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

I was planning to move back home but after my recent holiday I’m not sure I want to

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 7:32 PM
Reply to  Blind Gill

don’t, i’ve spent the years preceding lockdown intent on moving to Sweden or Iceland, honest…

now i ain’t so sure about the former, and from what Wardrobe says, even iceland…, but old Alba is a 50% public sector employee, honky white trash gulag these days, pervert central govt, Ukrop loving, independence denying fucking basketcase… another Ukraine waiting to happen, just as Eire.

Nikla’s happy tho’ and her drone fuckwit moron public sector feminised supporters are delighted to be so essential as to their entire demise.

SAOR ALBA – from who?

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 24, 2022 1:58 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

I suppose I was wishful-thinking, based on fond memories of the real Scots I used to know… dammit…

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 24, 2022 9:53 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Very true. Almost thirty years ago I relocated from the central belt to the leafy south west and it reminds me of that quip from Mahler: 
 
“If the world ends tomorrow, I would go to Vienna. Everything happens 50 years later there.”
 
SW Scotland is a bit like Vienna. With a couple of alterations. First, it’s like stepping into the feudal system with these millionaire farmers (a tautology) and second, it won’t take 50 years for this place to “catch up”. Maybe 50 days?

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 7:37 PM
Reply to  George Mc

aye, fermers, the Queens Infantry, certainly no funds spared on the development of agribusiness in the merry SW… makes me think we may be spared the worst of what is coming???

Hele
Hele
Jul 24, 2022 6:17 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Here’s hoping others walk away and simply “watch the rain bucketing outside.”

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jul 23, 2022 6:44 PM

I think population combined with technology which has created hyper capitalism and hyper greed are the primary reasons. I can’t say how many people I’ve talked to who say how their hometown they grew up in, where we rode our bikes all over the place unsupervised, played stick and rock baseball out in the woods, swam in lakes and intertubed down rivers, are nothing like they used to be. Too crowded, too much crime, too much everything. “It ain’t like it used to be”. Not everywhere of course, many places are stuck in time. But the population in the fifties was less than half of what it is now in the U.S. Then there’s the demographics and woke culture and the fascist control and loss of liberty and freedom and taking shoes off at airports and well, don’t get me going.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 23, 2022 8:39 PM

I agree…there really is just too much of everything. It is so hard to get noticed when you are young and need that sort of validation…too many people…( now I sound like they do!)

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 7:45 PM

so, we really do need a cull.

i do think so, life is becoming intolerable with all these moron fuckheids around me. let them willingly go. no mischief.

i know that is hard and cruel, but is alo entirely the truth.

you just have to drive these days to realise what a shower of fucking bubble dwelling liabilities we exist amidst. get these fuckwits to fuck, better off without them.

: ( true

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 28, 2022 1:35 AM
Reply to  rubberheid

You might like the Georgia Guide-stones…

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 29, 2022 5:33 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

that’s made up shit by rich cabals at best, their wish list, allegedly.

you miss the point, we have a serious effed up society in many parts and willing idiots etc will turn into malicious haters et al by msmandate.

this is a problem.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jul 29, 2022 6:25 PM
Reply to  rubberheid

RE: so, we really do need a cull.
You wrote it not me. The “problem” is not biological and neither is it a “population” problem (“too many people”), but it s you that is using the Malthusian language (a ruling class ideology). The problem is the massive propaganda and mind control apparatus that has been constructed since the end WWII with mass media and more recently social media all under the direction of the CIA. So, you want to kill off people who’s ideology you don’t agree with…hmmm why does that sound familiar? You want to fight totalitarianism with…totalitarianism?

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 23, 2022 6:14 PM

And in the death
As the last few corpses lay rotting on the slimy thoroughfare
The shutters lifted an inch in temperance building, high on Poacher’s Hill
And red mutant eyes gazed down on Hunger City
No more big wheels
Fleas the size of rats sucked on rats the size of cats
And ten thousand peoploids split into small tribes
Coveting the highest of the sterile skyscrapers
Like packs of dogs assaulting the glass fronts of Love-Me Avenue
Ripping and rewrapping mink and shiny silver fox, now legwarmers
Family badge of sapphire and cracked emerald
Any day now, the year of the Diamond Dogs
This ain’t rock and roll! This is genocide!

David Bowie – Future legend

El Zafio
El Zafio
Jul 24, 2022 8:02 AM

David Bowie – Freemason

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 24, 2022 3:46 PM
Reply to  El Zafio

Oh shit! Now I have to stop liking his music along with a host of others.
What a drag it is getting old …

TDj
TDj
Jul 25, 2022 1:21 PM

Cue guitars, then, going by memory:-

“As they pulled you out of the Oxygen tent ⛺ 🤣
You asked for the latest 🥳 party…”
Diamond Dog’s Party.
Monster.Raving.Loons.
Hunger City looms…

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Jul 23, 2022 6:00 PM

Inevitably: Monkeypox: WHO declares highest alert over outbreakPublished 53 minutes agohttps://www.bbc.com/news/health-62279436 Note to anyone who’s still submitting unquestioningly to the Church of Virology: You have no comeback against this. None. These grant-grubbing charlatans and careerist pseudoscientists and plain shameless liars can — and will — pull variations on this same trick again and again and again and again and again, every year, three times a year, ad nauseam, ad infinitum. These white-robed priests and their zillionaire employers will always find some pretext, some “outbreak”, some bug, some “cunning” and “wicked” little demon, some teeny-weeny creepy-crawly, some new or old Tiny Invisible Airborne Killer-Dot to terrify you with. Because the priests have The Knowledge and you don’t. Right? So what can you do but follow them, religiously? The best you can ever do is struggle to keep up with the sacred data they’ll concoct and spew out every day while robocops… Read more »

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 23, 2022 6:24 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

The speed of all this shit is important.

Normally, they play the slow game- and I mean real s l o w.

This stuff is accelerating at a gazillion miles an hour.

Two possible reasons:

1; They are creating chaos to install order – imminently. – THEIR order.

2, Something has gone wrong in their planning so they are just throwing everthing at it.

If they are panicking it’s a brilliant sign.

Ultimately, they won’t get away with it.

The question is how much more horseshit do we have to take?

Winterleaf
Winterleaf
Jul 23, 2022 7:08 PM

Call me an optimist, but I believe #2 may be the case. The genie is out of the bag, the cat is out of the bottle…”they” couldn’t censor us fully and early enough without that giving the game away, and the awakening is accelerating, so they are scrambling. The narrative is unfurling, on many levels and in many places. I still have hope.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 23, 2022 9:44 PM
Reply to  Winterleaf

That was my thought.

It is so illogical to have planned for decades and slipped a little something in the soup each year so that nobody notices and then suddenly spring everything at once.

Unless- the endgame is very close.

My first scenario doesn’t make sense to me. They don’t need chaos to convince the majority that it’s “for their own good”.

Expect aliens!

LuciusLicinius
LuciusLicinius
Jul 23, 2022 10:25 PM

Maybe the ones in charge right now got greedy and didn’t have the patience to gift the grand victory to one of their next generations. The slow brainwashing of 99% of the population would have been complete in less than 50 years. As at least the visible heads of the lunacy are quite old, they decided to gamble it all and want to get immortality, through mARN experiments on the population, for themselves and not only for their children.

Or, there is an incoming, unstoppable REAL systemic crisis – financial, energetic, agricultural etc all coming together around the same time, maybe the MIT Limits to growth study is not quite total bs – and they want to control the downfall while keeping their dominance system intact so they don’t see any other option than to guide the fall in the direction they seek.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 23, 2022 11:13 PM
Reply to  LuciusLicinius

As the current financial cycle died in 2008 and has been kept alive by QE ever since, It is evident that a rethink is needed. Whether that is done to benefit TPTB or to benefit the rest of the world remains to be seen. Global debt to global GDP is 3.5/1 and has increased by 30% in the last 5 years. This is no accident. Their plan is Universal benefit/ social credit. They have the means, the motivation and the opportunity to carry out their plan. They have one problem: US ! I think that you are spot on when you say that this generation of “them” haven’t got the patience. More likely, they realise the game is up and it’s time to cash in the chips They modeled their plans on control in the 1940’s. When newsreels told the people what they should think. Baby boomers hadn’t been invented… Read more »

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 24, 2022 10:21 PM
Reply to  Winterleaf

Call me a pessimist, but I believe #1. They are throwing out so many things at once, so fast, that there is no way anyone can keep up with it. As a result, people will continue to psychically fracture and exist even more deeply in a state of cognitive dissonance. “If I ignore this, it will go away. And it doesn’t really exist anyway.”

Future Shock, as Alvin Toffler put it.

eman
eman
Jul 23, 2022 7:11 PM

Russia has called their hand, conducted a special military operation in Ukraine, and developed a currency system that puts every currency, whether domestic to Russia or foreign to Russia, on the gold stand at transaction time when dealing with a Russian seller.. China has smarter than human dolls, Turkey has agreed to rid Syria of Terrorist, and Iran has teamed up with Russia, China, Venezuela, Iran and Cuba to by pass sanctions.. .. BRICS and SCO are become larger and more profitable than NATO and the EU. Horse shit prices are declining, because there is a lot more of it. To answer your question “how much more ..” when sufficient horse shit accumulates to bind into a singularity, the human forces. at that mark the nation state system together with all the monopoly powers it has given to private persons, will disappear.” OT says >90% of the assets on balance… Read more »

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 23, 2022 7:53 PM
Reply to  eman

OK, here’s another question:

“Its the nation state system that endows the Oligarch with the monopoly powers”

Good point – So why do the Oligarchs want a Global government which would dilute their power?

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Jul 23, 2022 8:38 PM
Reply to  eman

Please can we have another question.

Sure, you can have a few.

Why has China also been peddling this anti-scientific junk for the last 30 months?

Why are China and Russia and practically every other country you name locking their people down at will and forcing them to submit to the Sacred Prick?

Is it because TheScience™ is so robust, firmly grounded, independent and unimpeachably honest as to be unchallengeable? [cue laughtrack]

Grace Johns
Grace Johns
Jul 23, 2022 9:53 PM
Reply to  eman

“Its the nation state system that endows the Oligarch with the monopoly powers”

Not really – isn’t it clear that there are no longer any nation states in the ‘free’ world? Isn’t that why we see buffoons and eedjets ‘running’ things?

The state doesn’t grant the oligarch any power. Those things you listed are tools, camouflage demanded by oligarchs from a state that became impotent around a century ago.

eman
eman
Jul 24, 2022 12:02 AM
Reply to  eman

article confirms the monopoly power thesis explains great reset <= nightmare

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/07/20/the-great-reset-phase-2-the-hunger-games/

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Jul 23, 2022 9:37 PM

The ruling class are now united, globalised, and unprecedentedly powerful. They have been moving very fast indeed since the day they launched COUPVID. (Reminder: the first lockdowns — an American prison term — were only 28 months ago.) They started with a Blitzkrieg and now they’re conducting a war of attrition. They own the planet’s TV stations & newspapers, its “social” [spook] media, its police forces and its armies. They own the banks, of course. They also own academia and the gigantic medico-pharma industry. Last not least, they own agriculture (and nearly all of the land). They are conducting a World War, the sneakiest and easiest in history. They are succeeding brilliantly. They have already pricked billions of people — half the world’s population? more? — with untested, gene-fiddling substances. They are destroying the health of their own captive populations under the pretext of saving their lives. Very few educated,… Read more »

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 23, 2022 9:55 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Yup.

I’ve had “the” conversation with family members where the question of global governance crops up and you get “that” look as if it is impossible to comprehend.

I might add that some of these people are in the top 3% income bracket and have professional qualifications!!

That’s probably the bit I find most scary.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Jul 23, 2022 10:33 PM

They inhabit their career-niches and know the social and monetary value of tunnel vision, They have everything invested in the system (which has given them a safe and comfortable living), so they have a lot to lose if the system collapses, therefore they mask up obediently and react with anger and scorn to any suggestion that the system might be irretrievably rotten and dishonest rather than merely flawed-but-reformable. Even if they’re not bankers or politicans or academics of medics, they know they have a vested interest in propping up the entire groaning structure.

It’s that simple.

“You would dare to cast doubt on Virology, on SCIENCE? This is blasphemy. You go too far, sir, by God you go too far.”

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Jul 24, 2022 12:06 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

…- One wages Blitzkrieg, though, *Precisely* in order to obviate having to wage a war of attrition, which *Invariably* never goes well for the numerically inferior side (- and guess who that would be, here…)

…Suffice to say that if, as the numerically inferior belligerant in a conflict, your initial Blitzkrieg campaign subsequently devolves into a war of attrition, then it is a surefire sign that you:…

…- a) Failed to achieve your operational objectives…

…- b) Are now headed for the certain rout and subsequent total annihilation of your entire combat force, barring some miracle…

(…- c.f., e.g.: The Wehrmacht 6th Army at Stalingrad…)

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Jul 24, 2022 6:44 AM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

a war of attrition, which *Invariably* never goes well for the numerically inferior side

This is not true when the numerically inferior side controls all the resources and holds all the weapons.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Jul 24, 2022 2:20 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

…- Fair point. – In which case the situation is one of de facto occupation and the occupied side is then obliged to resort to asymmetric warfare… – The occupying side, meanwhile, is thus obliged to regard *All* under occupation, civillians, women and children included, as suspected, potential, ie: de facto, combatants, thus plunging the occupiers’ numerical inferiority further into the shitter, whilst placing them in a potentially *Easily* unmanageable and, ultimately, untenable operational situation:… …- The occupiers are now faced with an adversary that is both everywhere and nowhere at once, engaging them with methods and tactics that, thus far, *No* modern, centrally and hierarchically organized military force *In The World* has *Yet* devised effective means to *Even Begin* to successfully counter… – All whilst facing a further massive rout, this time in the battle for hearts and minds, and thus the *Manageable Control*, of the subjugated adversary’s domestic… Read more »

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 7:53 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

ok, but we still have a long road ahead, too many refuse to be real.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Jul 25, 2022 1:24 AM
Reply to  rubberheid

…- Ain’t *That* the Goddamn truth, ‘heid… – Still, tha’s why we’re *Here*, I guess… 🙂

K. Cavan
K. Cavan
Jul 23, 2022 10:15 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

I hear the Covidians talking about “Science” as if it’s some new God & I struggle to get across to them the fact that the obsessed boffin, tinkering away in his lab, for the pure knowledge he pursues is a false picture. In the area of the biological sciences there is no research, no lab anywhere, no discoveries being made that are not financed by or operated by the Pharma Giants. They control it all & they do so with only one aim in mind, the generation of billions in profits. The health & wellbeing of humanity is of zero interest to them, apart from the fact that they need us to keep getting sick or the money stops.
Get it?

austrian peter
austrian peter
Jul 24, 2022 6:05 PM
Reply to  K. Cavan

Yep got it and very well described. I wrote a review of the Covidians a few months ago:
https://austrianpeter.substack.com/p/the-covidian-cult-is-global-453

Mark EL
Mark EL
Jul 24, 2022 8:21 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Bang on P. I too feel the anger.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 23, 2022 5:48 PM

When shit gets this serious it’s worth remembering that we don’t exist.

Infinity without bounds is impossible whichever way you look at it.

Infinity within bounds is an oxymoron.

There cannot be a never ending “something and nothing”

It’s just impossible.

If there is no infinity, there is no universe and, ergo, no “us”

(Typed on my non-existent keyboard)

Violet
Violet
Jul 23, 2022 5:36 PM
observe
observe
Jul 23, 2022 5:48 PM
Reply to  Violet

“WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus made the decision on calling monkeypox a global emergency despite a lack of consensus among experts on the UN health agency’s emergency committee, saying he acted as “a tiebreaker.” It was the first time a UN health agency chief has unilaterally made such a decision without an expert recommendation.”

Guess who’s getting a nice bonus for commitment to his masters cause.

Violet
Violet
Jul 23, 2022 6:25 PM
Reply to  observe

What is this? Bill and Ted’s bogus plandemic 2.0 🤡

eman
eman
Jul 23, 2022 7:23 PM
Reply to  Violet

Name your own Pandemic <= franchises going cheap! Only owners of existing pharmaceutical companies need apply.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 23, 2022 10:04 PM
Reply to  eman

We recently registered the “Monkeypox” scary thing but now people are laughing at us and calling it “Moneypox” and “Moneybox”

They are all a bunch of poo-faced gits

It’s not fair and we want our money back.

Mr. T.A.G

Ethiopia

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jul 23, 2022 6:52 PM
Reply to  observe

WHO is nothing to do with the UN, it’s a fucking big pharma and political load of bollocks.

LuciusLicinius
LuciusLicinius
Jul 23, 2022 7:10 PM

Right… While the UN is just a political load of bollocks.

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Jul 23, 2022 8:01 PM
Reply to  LuciusLicinius

Well of course the UN is politics, but WHO is run by big pharma and is nothing to do with the official UN,

LuciusLicinius
LuciusLicinius
Jul 23, 2022 10:49 PM

Ofc WHO has a lot to do with the official UN. Isn’t the UN working hand in hand with the WEF on agenda 2030? Isn’t the covid scam the opening salvo for implementing the fore mentioned agenda and getting us to own nothing and be miserable?

And isn’t WHO the medical branch of the globalists agencies, the one having the legitimacy of declaring medical emergencies and pandemics? Without which, everything that happened in the last 2 years and a half wouldn’t have been possible?

Blind Gill
Blind Gill
Jul 24, 2022 8:03 AM
Reply to  LuciusLicinius

Agree. The UN is the visible mothership. CFR run all of it with the other supra national organisations. Funny cos the UN hardly gets a mention.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Jul 24, 2022 6:56 AM
Reply to  observe

Members of an expert committee that met on Thursday to discuss the potential recommendation were split on the decision, with nine members against and six in favour of the declaration, prompting Tedros himself to break the deadlock, he told reporters.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/monkeypox-outbreak-constitutes-global-health-emergency-who-2022-07-23/

“With Arsenal three goals up against Chelsea in the 85th minute, the referee ‘broke the deadlock’ by blowing the final whistle and declaring Chelsea the winners.”

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 23, 2022 9:57 PM
Reply to  Violet

Nobody following up Teddy’s genocide charges?

Surely, that would be an easy “in” for Herr Fuelmich

El Zafio
El Zafio
Jul 24, 2022 8:15 AM

As would virology itself. Fuellmich was a from the beginning easily spotted scam. Downtaker of Deutsche Bank and VW, as documented nowhere.

Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis
Jul 23, 2022 5:21 PM

I’m 73 years young, a retired archaeologist, searching for the emergency brake on this runaway civilization, if that’s what it is. Partly due to my age, but mostly due to my interests and curiosity, I’ve lived large stretches of my life simply, close to the Earth and without the technological trappings so loved by the majority of those living around me. Archaeologically, we know that when early cultures adopted agriculture and began to live in larger and larger communities, with greater and greater social controls, their health declined drastically. The appearance of dental caries, gum disease and a host of degenerative diseases are indicators of the change from subsistence lifestyles to social complexity. My father was a doctor. He told me never go to the doctor unless you can’t get out of bed, then lie there and think about it before taking such drastic action. Let your body show you… Read more »

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 23, 2022 8:44 PM
Reply to  Michael Lewis

You’ve got it, brother! How inspiring!

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 23, 2022 10:31 PM
Reply to  Michael Lewis

That’s how to roll.

Respect to you.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 7:57 PM
Reply to  Michael Lewis

yass, keep going

NickM
NickM
Jul 23, 2022 4:59 PM

Working one’s way out of the nightmare. Pepe Escobar reports on a re-awakened Non-Aligned Movement, NAM 2: “Unlike the victors Stalin, Roosevelt and Churchill in 1943, Putin, Raisi and Erdogan did not meet to carve up the world. They met to discuss how another world is possible – a multipolar world through bilateral, trilateral, multilateral and relatively new geopolitical and geo-economic institutions. Russia and China (East Eurasia) have been in the forefront of all recent key decisions. Their diplomacy has brought Iran (Middle EurAsia) as full member of SCO (Shanghai Cooperation Organization). Their pull is attracting new Global South countries to join the expanded BRICS+. Russia has all but convinced Turkey to take a break from endlessly waiting to be recognized by the snooty EU (West EurAsia) and meanwhile be welcomed into the much bigger community: BRICS+, SCO and EAEU (East Asia Economic Union)., Russia is facilitating the reconciliation of… Read more »

Igor
Igor
Jul 23, 2022 11:27 PM
Reply to  NickM

Only problem with NAM 2.0, is that those so called non aligned nations have fully embraced the Covid scam.

Putin is not a savior, the Ayatollahs are not saviors. Lockdowns, masks, and jabs became the order of the day, forever.

China ran with the Wuhan bat soup crap to lock down Hong Kong at a time when HK freedom protests were getting too big, and getting too much attention in the Western media. Enter Covid, and Hong Kong Freedom Fever disappears from Global Public perception.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 24, 2022 8:22 AM
Reply to  NickM

Turkey is playing both sides. While it claims to want to promote peace talks, it provides drones and terrorists to Ukraine. Its military and terrorists are entrenched in Syria and Libya. It trains Uyghur terrorists. It is a major conduit for “refugees”, and periodically extracts payments for this from EU. Its biggest concern seems to be being outshone by Iran and Saudi.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 23, 2022 4:18 PM

Religion is the answer:

https://twitter.com/WinterOakPress/status/1549879270553559043

The Vatican has officially released a new set of rare coins that depict a young man getting vaccinated against Covid-19

Praise be!

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Jul 24, 2022 12:22 AM
Reply to  George Mc

…- Yes, yes, but *Is* the jab the trans-substantiated Body of Christ, *In Actuality*, or is it just a metaphorical symbol, as such?… – Will there be a Vatican conclave on this?… – A Papal Bull?…

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 24, 2022 9:58 AM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Well we’ve already got the exorcism bit with the jab. Not to mention the preceding witch-doctor death bone pointing with the little plastic testers. The Holy Rollers merging with the new lab coat clergy? Yes I can see that. I do see that.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 23, 2022 4:12 PM

We keep enlisting technology as antidote for our inability to feed one another, build durable homes, and maintain simple infrastructure. “Spirit” has been dissed into some decrepit association with Voodoo, or black magic. Interesting, that…

The origins of Spiritual belief reflected the divine workings of Nature, and how to cooperate within the mysteries of life. The Natural environment was considered our sacred consort, or as a potential ally. No one claimed to understand the natural Spirit, as it was too vast a landscape to fathom its meaning…

The “art” of technology changed all that. Nature became the enemy. The hostile force. The “thing” to overcome. Good luck with that…

“We are our own devils; we drive ourselves out of our Edens.”
– Johann Wolfgang von Goethe –
(August 28, 1749 – March 22, 1832)

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 23, 2022 4:11 PM

https://marjankrebelj.medium.com/a-case-for-an-immediate-climate-lockdown-e27a21433aab Many of us realize that our rampant consumption and the hidden forces of capitalism push our biosphere beyond its limits. We are the driving agent of an extinction level event, to which we’ll be no exception. Our current youth, children, and yet-to-be-born will have to face insufferable and unimaginable conditions well beyond what we’re experiencing now. We can be almost certain of wars, famine, heat waves, wildfires, deadly pandemics, (and as a result) a collapse of human values and society as we know it. We can now be “almost certain”? Apparently more than “almost”: All of that is already in its process. Number crunching blah-de-blah ….we have to act immediately. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But let’s get done with denial (i.e., business as usual) and start dealing with the present at hand. After which I was expecting our learned scribe to lay into the despicable deniers with some counter arguments. Sadly no.… Read more »

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Jul 24, 2022 12:29 AM
Reply to  George Mc

“The lockdown period should last at least ten years, although 20 or even 30 would be a much safer number.”

…- *BWWAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAHAAHA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA*!!!111!!!11!!…

…- 20-30 Years?… – Yup, that oughta ’bout do it… – *Ahem*… 🙂

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 23, 2022 3:48 PM

I see the topic of Yuval Harari has risen below and that’s fitting. Simon Elmer thought so too: One public intellectual, however, who doesn’t have to look outside his own nation state for a model of the slums and camps of the future, has more than realised where we are heading. As one of the ideologues of the Great Reset and a regular speaker at the World Economic Forum, Yuval Noah Harari … hasn’t been scared to lay out the aims of the Fourth Industrial Revolution with all the frankness and ruthlessness of a latter-day Joseph Goebbels. Harari can be viewed in the way that Guido Preparata viewed Ernst Jünger: as an eloquent figure who was candid enough to reveal the truth about the inner workings of the prevailing ruling class mentality and the system that supports it. Though granted, this ruling class have become much bolder now and so,… Read more »

The Anti-Hip
The Anti-Hip
Jul 23, 2022 4:03 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Thank you.

“Useless people” — This phrase alone — the juxtaposition of the two words — should ring alarm bells, for “people” here is a euphemism for something else. Think machinery and farm animals.

But, being either clueless or chutzpah-endowed, he has the rest you describe, especially: “[H]ow will they find some sense of meaning in life when they are basically meaningless, worthless.”

It shouldn’t take a three-digit IQ to understand this “man” ‘s attitude toward humanity.

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 23, 2022 4:25 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Harari isn’t the only spokesperson:

https://twitter.com/TheRealKeean/status/1549855822578159617

Kooky Jane Goodall suggesting at the WEF that all our problems would be solved if the population of Earth was reduced by 90%.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 24, 2022 8:29 AM
Reply to  George Mc

All this follows inexorably from (a) usury (b) privilege.

Ukridge
Ukridge
Jul 23, 2022 3:38 PM

Diet, I was recently advised to cut out vegetable oils, processed sugars and grains. Like all grains, apparently our bodies have not adjusted to agriculture yet. That leaves fruit and vegetables, nuts, and meats. The “plant-based diet” they want to shift us over to will be a disaster for health.

Oh and the mass shootings are fake. Eighteen intelligence agencies and Homeland Security, that’s what we pay for.

NikkiBop
NikkiBop
Jul 23, 2022 2:49 PM

I grew up outside a small town in Wyoming with a horse a dog and a back gate that let me out into miles of open space packed with wildlife and only the sounds of nature. Those years were the best ones. None others since have been as rich.

mjh
mjh
Jul 23, 2022 9:37 PM
Reply to  NikkiBop

Talk to the plants you see around you — I regularly talk to a tree that I saved from being cut down. I believe (or at least I think I believe) it hears me and responds. Nature loves those of us who love nature. Hang in there.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 8:18 PM
Reply to  mjh

indeed, Life remembers those who cherish it. X

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 8:18 PM
Reply to  NikkiBop

my chosen work/life – nature, only the wind, bugs and birds as a soundtrack, muck under the nails and a weary body.

goes a long way for the soul, if ye’ve still got one ; )

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 23, 2022 2:01 PM

Hell

It is as though we all died in March 2020 and descended into Hell.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jul 23, 2022 5:42 PM

More like purgatory.

The “shrews” are waiting to see what the next horror is.

The norms are just thinking it’s nice and warm today.

Jos
Jos
Jul 23, 2022 8:49 PM

Maybe – or maybe we just started to realise the hell we’ve been living in for decades / centuries.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 23, 2022 1:58 PM

History I wish I could turn a thread I once started on the history of the world into an article. If there is a God, he is not an authoritarian vengeful accountant in the sky. That God was created by man to keep newly civilised mankind on the straight and narrow, boost productivity and so on. The real God is an inspired fellow who got the universe going but wasn’t perfect and does not concern himself with the day to day activities of people. His great achievement, his magnum opus was the creation of the biosphere and all it’s wonders. This radiation and meteorite free (mostly) oasis in the radioactive universe owes it’s existence to the presence of the atmosphere and the magnetosphere. It is here that evolution created ineffable wonders such as the redwood, the platypus, the lion, the Eastern Rosella, the coral reef and millions of other species.… Read more »

Binra
Binra
Jul 23, 2022 1:52 PM

Predictive control drives a mind possessed by technologism – that is of seeking external solutions to relational conflicts that are internalised and normalised BY the strategy and mindset of a psychic defence projected onto a physical world as a representation of masked and suppressed trauma – that we identify as our mind – but which is our alignment and allegiance to an acquired masking strategy of survival in terms and conditions set and reinforced as a worldview operating almost invisibly to its filtered and ruled results. That which is split off from, remains that which we are, but no longer aware as. Our mind likewise projects to split off from hated or denied self. Yet likewise our thought never really leaves us even when we assign and attack scapegoats, and so is active beneath awareness as the framing of what might be seen as evasive strategies against feared disclosure. hence… Read more »

David
David
Jul 23, 2022 1:05 PM

Change the word God to ‘humanity ‘ because there is no evidence for a diety and if God did exist then she is either not all powerful (thus not a god) or totally evil.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 23, 2022 1:29 PM
Reply to  David

Please do not confuse the god of corporate religion with the creator.

Howard
Howard
Jul 23, 2022 5:25 PM

Aren’t they one and the same?

Binra
Binra
Jul 23, 2022 1:57 PM
Reply to  David

Change your own mind and let others enjoy or suffer their own word.
Any word can be adulterated, devalued and degraded by abuse – or used for mere private vanity set above relational honesty.
There is all the evidence for whatever you seek. So what you are finding is valid feedback to your search parameters. That you can ask and seek answer is a direct and immediate evidence. But if you prefer to imagine neurons set by coded conditioned adaptations you are as free to live what that gives you as long as you want it.

James R
James R
Jul 23, 2022 9:28 PM
Reply to  Binra

Binra, you are hard work but well worth the effort. I used to scroll past on the dead sea of my manifest ignorance. Either I have grown up or you have become less opaque.

Thank you for making the effort. Blessings.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jul 23, 2022 2:28 PM
Reply to  David

So you think complex systems build themselves?
Would you ever think that a complex system like a modern automobile could build itself or come about by happy accident?
Do you really think human beings aren’t an intelligent design and complex system?

We all know deep in our hearts what is good and what is evil, is that just another accident?

I hope that one day you find your spirituality.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 23, 2022 2:47 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

Your compassion is praiseworthy, and I support it 100%.
You shame me.

My instinct was to reply to him, “Ignorant, superficial, fashionable tosh”…

Howard
Howard
Jul 23, 2022 5:32 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Fashions come and go. If, right now, it’s “fashionable” to deny there’s a God, it was certainly not always the fashion. Indeed, there was a time expression of such a view would result in a death sentence.

But then, those whose ideas stand on a flimsy base generally do resort to force to compel their belief.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 23, 2022 5:58 PM
Reply to  Howard

Agreed.
It’s not even their own ideas that stand on a flimsy base, but ideas which they have copied from others, according to the fashion of the day.
Add to that their own weakened moral integrity, thanks to constant assault from the media, and you get the current mess.

Jos
Jos
Jul 23, 2022 8:54 PM
Reply to  Howard

Among young people online it’s become ‘fashionable’ to worship Satan and that’s exactly why we’ve got into this mess.

Blind Gill
Blind Gill
Jul 24, 2022 8:08 AM
Reply to  Howard

I struggle with “a god “

mjh
mjh
Jul 23, 2022 8:46 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Wardropper — your replies are often compassionate and I gain from them. But we all lose our patience sometimes, especially with ignorant, superficial, fasthionable toshes!

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 23, 2022 10:03 PM
Reply to  mjh

Thanks mjh.
I succeed in controlling myself better in writing than when I find myself in front of a TV set, but I have bad days… 🙂

Rob Rob
Rob Rob
Jul 23, 2022 3:24 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

Ok so let’s say there’s a designer or creator…

If everything complex was designed, who designed the designer?

it’s a recursive loop.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Jul 23, 2022 4:35 PM
Reply to  Rob Rob

The Supreme Intelligent Creative Mind [a Mind, & not a person…] (what ‘christians’ call ‘god’, but I’m most definitely not a ‘christian’, I’m a factually spiritually-enlightened Spiritualist) that created the [multi-dimensional] cosmos and all life is what’s termed ‘The Uncaused First Cause’.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 24, 2022 4:09 PM

Wow, I didn’t realize one could declare themselves “spiritually-enlightened”.
I guess I now longer need to conceal that I’m a self-prophetic master of the universe (thanks, Alan).

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 25, 2022 7:57 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

Self-promotion is not just for manufacturing, commerce, professions, academia, etc.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 23, 2022 10:13 PM
Reply to  Rob Rob

It’s an existential question. Søren Kierkegaard, Nietzsche and others have a lot to say about such things.
One famous version of the same question is based on the idea that the Universe, with all its complexity, is really no more than a very cleverly designed watch – which of course begs the question, “So who is the watch-maker?”

Contemplating these questions is good training for the inquisitive mind, but one can get lost. And when you’re lost, faith could be crucial to finding your way home… Just a thought.

Howard
Howard
Jul 23, 2022 5:29 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

“…happy accident?” Happiness is a human invention. In nature, as in all the cosmos, nothing happens by accident. Everything happens because it cannot be otherwise. No outside force is needed.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 23, 2022 2:51 PM
Reply to  David

You think that because you personally find nothing of inspiring value in the world, that the whole shebang is ‘evil’.
That’s frankly rather narcissistic.

(Incidentally, there is no ‘evidence’ that ‘inspiration’ exists either, yet there it is, inspiring many of us to be passionately creative nonetheless…)

Ukridge
Ukridge
Jul 23, 2022 3:54 PM
Reply to  David

I’ve heard this talking point. What about the fact that fruits and vegetables have so many beneficial nutrients and antioxidants, etc. that seem to have no biological function from the plant’s point of view. What about the fact that we have perfect eclipses because the sun is 400 times the size and distance of the moon? The regularity of the seasons and the phases of the moon? The beauty in nature? Are you really sure there is no evidence for a deity? Or are you just repeating this, it sounded good in your little apartment or something. Take a large city on any given day, sure bad things happen. But most part it goes ok doesn’t it? Maybe you are not giving credit for all the things that go well, and just focusing on the negative.

Mark EL
Mark EL
Jul 24, 2022 8:50 AM
Reply to  Ukridge

So your ‘God’ gets all the credit, but no blame?

Ukridge
Ukridge
Jul 23, 2022 4:00 PM
Reply to  David

I’m pretty sure your complaint is about the human species, right? Apart from the human species, nature is ok with you? It meets your approval? Well, what is the problem with the human species? Maybe you are being impatient, maybe one day we will get our act together. Hang in there.

Howard
Howard
Jul 23, 2022 5:21 PM
Reply to  David

At least one person agrees with you – that would be me. Unless, of course, you are saying this tongue-in-cheek.

The old “complexity” arguments have become so threadbare as to be cartoonish. Does a car make itself? Does a star make itself? No, but a certain arrangement of particles does.

There is only one way particles, atoms and elements can come together. The forces which dictate the slow piecing together of matter to make a star are the same forces which dictate the piecing together of matter to make a car.

Try making a puppy dog in a GM factory. The elements used and the forces directing those elements can only produce a machine. Or try staring at the sky for millions of years to see if a car eventually appears instead of a star.

Never going to happen. Because God says so? No, because matter so decrees.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 8:40 PM
Reply to  Howard

have you no sense of awe Howard? do you not believe in creation? did i just birth/build/paint/perform according to “matter”?

Denied.

i like a lot of your posts, but life/creation denial is an empty vessel.

get a life, and Love Life, ideally not with the “worm-food” lens.

just saying buddy,
atheism is only an absolute truth for atheists, many of us others relish Life and matter. doesn’t mean we are flakes or religious nuts, but that we accede Life is bigger than we.

Blind Gill
Blind Gill
Jul 24, 2022 8:05 AM
Reply to  David

The problem I’m having is the secular job the did on me making me believe there was no godhead. Rethinking that one.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Jul 23, 2022 12:49 PM

Shadowban.eu used to be a very useful and informative site to see whose Twitler account was being silently and sneakily throttled (by Twitler).

Try googling it now. What happens? I get a blank white page and this one-line message:

“The content of the page cannot be displayed”

http://shadowban.eu/

Is this only happening at my location or also everywhere else?

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Jul 23, 2022 2:31 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

It seems the guy who ran the site took it down in Dec 2021 after the latest bit of programming shenanigans by Twitler. His wise advice was to shun that spook-run timesink and spend more time working and organising offline.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Jul 23, 2022 12:33 PM

Follow the Ten commandments and teachings of Jesus to re-right the world.
We live in a fallen world full of pride, greed, perversion and corruption.
We are in end days for sure…

Peter Moritz
Peter Moritz
Jul 23, 2022 1:56 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

We are in end days for sure…

Here a list of prediction failures….:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unfulfilled_Christian_religious_predictions

We live in a fallen world full of pride, greed, perversion and corruption.

so true, just you seem to be ignorant of the history. It was always thus.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Jul 23, 2022 3:20 PM
Reply to  Peter Moritz

Did you really link Wikipedia?
Beyond parody 🤣 that’s

Debbie Took
Debbie Took
Jul 23, 2022 8:55 PM
Reply to  Peter Moritz

These ‘predictions’ were made by human beings, who formed themselves into groups, gave themselves fancy titles, costumes etc. Often very little to do with God!! But, yeah, those who think they’re far too clever for God will find lots of ammunition there! Paul Watson, you’re bang on.

Wisenox
Wisenox
Jul 23, 2022 3:33 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

It is unfortunate, but they are dismantling Christianity. The equinox is moving to Aquarius (Enki), and there will be a new religion for that. It may sound crazy, but you will see it over time. They will destroy the Church from the inside, and will persecute Christians. This happens every age change. The supposed beginning for this habit is called Anno Lucis, 4021 bc. In that time, the equinox was in the horns of Taurus, so everyone worshipped the bull and Egypt had a bull with a sun disk in its horns. Then, it moved to Aries and it was the ram and moses, then Pisces and it was 2 fish and Jesus. Each time, practitioners of the previous religion were persecuted. For christianity to come in, Pagans had to be persecuted. This time around, Man will be the messiah. May sound crazy, but you will see it more and… Read more »

Xavier Delacroix
Xavier Delacroix
Jul 23, 2022 5:32 PM
Reply to  Wisenox

Actually, there isn’t any need to destroy Christianity (Piscean) or any other religion. As you should know, the coming of the Son of Man (Aquarius/Cataclysm) portends God’s Judgement, i.e. The Great Reset.

Nearly all of the credulous ovines will have been winnowed out in any case, leaving the sapient (vax refusniks, not yet starved to death) to be harvested and brought into the barn (interned). This remnant (son of man) would need no religion, nor would the burgeoning civilisation of the NWO (throughout the following millennia).

All religions will evaporate upon the Great Reset, so no real need to discredit them now. Except, possibly, if it is necessary to string along those minions who remain unaware of the nature of the Great Reset, who assume there will be an Aquarian religion.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 23, 2022 7:22 PM

 “Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,”[a] for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[b] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Jul 23, 2022 11:27 PM

ovines

You mean “sheeple”, so why not just say it? Presumably because you feel brainier saying it in Latin.

You are hoping, naively, for the Survival of the Insufferable. That strategy won’t work unless you’re a well-connected billionaire. But do keep smirking.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 23, 2022 7:20 PM
Reply to  Wisenox

Yeah, well, but at least it’s not too late too get one of those fancy Vatican coins depicting some poor sinner receiving salvation through the auspices of a needle full of mRNA “vaxx.”

mjh
mjh
Jul 23, 2022 8:43 PM
Reply to  Wisenox

“They will destroy the Church from the inside” — yes, this is what I fear. They will certainly try, are certainly trying, to do so. But I must believe that good will prevail in the end

The Anti-Hip
The Anti-Hip
Jul 23, 2022 4:20 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Jesus and his followers have had 2000 years to spread the “Good Word”, because the all-powerful God was unable to spread his magic wand to inform all the people not only of his desire, but even his existence — and they’ve convinced only about 1/7 of them, while in the last few hundred years the project has been backsliding among the best-and-brightest; only now treading water as the West has lost its purpose. And, no, the best-and-brightest are not going to “get religion” as a result of this loss of purpose — certainly not from the abusive, manipulative, shapeshifting, cryptic creature represented by the Abrahamic God. In my own case, you can bet your ass that if this God of yours *actually* made an appearance with his commands, I’d be paying attention. Don’t know what conclusion I’d come to, or how to follow up on it, but it would certainly… Read more »

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 8:58 PM
Reply to  The Anti-Hip

everything is a test. regardless of belief systems, and you probably just failed that test. so moral conduct is tea leaf reading? choke motherfucker on my leaves. whatever I may think of the (slave) religion of Christianity, there is nothing wrong with people trying to be “good”, insofar as they understand it, doesn’t help when they get it all wrong admittedly. so, our pagan ancestors’ gods who said it was fine to kill your neighbour as long as you compensated his family had the right end of the stick?? love? what ye all know about loving? y’all experts? people need to really stop slagging religion, as it is just another manipulation of society, it is your own response that says it all. what sort of society do you want? one where I can smash your heid in over a disagreement over the price of a cow, and only have to… Read more »

The Anti-Hip
The Anti-Hip
Jul 24, 2022 9:53 PM
Reply to  rubberheid

“[T]here is nothing wrong with people trying to be ‘good’,”

Agreed. I said nothing against being good. I’m for it, OK? (Of course, to ultimately define what is “good”, we see “the devil is in the details”, LOL) But being good has nothing to do with invisible creatures — it has to do with human characteristics.

The point is this: If these beliefs in invisible creatures and places lead, say, to a majority nonchalance about nuclear war sending us all to “heaven/hell”– you bet I’m going “slag” it — and in fact, it demands far more than criticism.

Willem
Willem
Jul 23, 2022 12:26 PM

The title reminds me of this Dutch saying that

de mens lijdt dikwijls het meest, aan het lijden wat hij vreest

Meaning:

man often suffers most, from the suffering he fears

Now there are surely things in society that do not run well, excess mortality due to vaxx, is one of them. But to say that we live in a nightmare, well, I don’t agree. It’s also not very helpful advice from a psychologist, that is: if the world is a nightmare in which one lives, what can one do about it?

Most nightmares, if not all, are self-inflected. If one wants to do something about nightmares: stop despairing and get a life.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 23, 2022 2:02 PM
Reply to  Willem

Many people receive some of their greatest life insights from nightmares. Also, psychologists don’t give advice.  😀 

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 24, 2022 4:20 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

So you never advised one of your patients (?) to sleep with a night light until he/she is ready to face the nightmare?
How compassionate.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 23, 2022 3:42 PM
Reply to  Willem

That saying is from Buddhism.

Jesper
Jesper
Jul 23, 2022 8:08 PM
Reply to  Willem

Even worse: the nightmare lives in us.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 24, 2022 4:18 PM
Reply to  Willem

 If one wants to do something about nightmares … “, just wake the fuck up already!

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 23, 2022 11:44 AM

“There certainly are enough people scrambling to get off the grid—throw away the cell phone, the TVs, the Internet”.

Evidence: the value of Netflix has declined 70% in the last 12 months.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 9:04 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Eggwedge, a few million hipsters don’t count… maybe that (anti-)social media film hit so hard they cancelled netflix but all kept their smart phones…. probably,
but meaningless, they’ve just moved to a more affirming echo-chamber now

Chris Weisdorf
Chris Weisdorf
Jul 23, 2022 10:48 AM

Not many people seem to be concerned about our loss of soul, our loss of humanity, our loss of being human, and our loss of a connection to God. Yes, I said it, the “God” word. I mean it too. You say this almost as an apology. To be clear, this is WAR. It’s the first non-shooting war in human history. The battlefield is in the mind, not in the streets. And it’s a spiritual war, as much as it resides in our consciousness- both individual and collective. The enemy is literally as evil as hell. Satanic elements are more brazen than ever in mass, mindless entertainment today. In our education school systems. In everything medicine- and scientific-related. And our mass media is chock full of evil. Every day. Ever hour. Satan is a trickster above all else. And the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing (no, not… Read more »

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 23, 2022 11:43 AM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

The UK is about to have a PM who literally named his hedge fund after Lucifer.

jiin
jiin
Jul 23, 2022 4:08 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Lucifer or lizard or Lucis – trust/Truss. Rishi Sunak snake/- lightbearer

or lizrd trust is lucis trust
who will be anti trust.

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truss (n.)c. 1200, “collection of things bound together,” from Old French troussetorse “parcel, package, bundle,” of uncertain origin, perhaps from Vulgar Latin *torciare “to twist,” from Late Latin torquere “to twist” (from PIE root *terkw- “to twist”). Meaning “surgical appliance to support a rupture, etc.” first attested 1540s. Sense of “framework for supporting a roof or bridge” is first recorded 1650s.

truss (v.)
c. 1200, “to load, load up,” from Anglo-French trusser, Old French trussertorser “to load, fill, pack, fasten” (11c.), from Old French troussetorse (see truss (n.)). Related: Trussedtrussing.
Entries linking to truss*terkw- 
Proto-Indo-European root meaning “to twist.”

It forms all or part of: contortdistortextortextortionnasturtiumqueerretortthwarttorchtormenttorque (n.) “rotating force;” torsiontorttorticollistortuoustorturetruss.

It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit tarkuh “spindle;” Latin torquere “to twist;” Old Church Slavonic traku “band, girdle;” Old High German drahsil “turner,” German drechseln “to turn on a lathe;” Old Norse þvert “across,” Old English þweorh “transverse, perverse, angry, cross,” Gothic þwairhs “angry.”

https://www.etymonline.com/word/truss

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 9:07 PM
Reply to  jiin

we’ll hang Trussed-up from a lamp-post soon enough : )

William Sabre
William Sabre
Jul 23, 2022 11:51 AM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

I don’t buy into the satanic symbolism in modern corporate media, I think thats just fetishistic artistic renditioning of demons and it deflects from the real danger, the real satan i.e. adversary which is more subtle.

It’s the distrust of fellow man, distrust of nature, thinking in a purely materialistic view, its the fear and anxiety of technocracy and false shepherds, it’s the anger at political morons, it’s the greed of power and control, its the apathy of ‘wanting the elite to leave me alone’ and not actively participate in protecting and giving to a community of brothers and sisters under God. God is a law and UK society is breaking every one right now. That’s satanic.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 23, 2022 2:04 PM
Reply to  William Sabre

Very well put.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 23, 2022 5:43 PM
Reply to  William Sabre

Once you accept God into the picture, satan naturally follows. But I think ‘wanting the elite (?) to leave me alone’ is actually a perfectly justifiable stance for many very active and creative people who don’t want their creativity interfered with by incompetent egomaniacs. A reasonable government would not wish to encroach upon our private lives or allow chaos to reign all around us, as is currently happening, but as you say, some people are apathetic, and take no part in their own society. In such cases, a reasonable government might ensure that a few basic checks and balances are in place – but no more than that, until we reach the dangerous criminal scenario. All of which is moot, since we no longer know what a reasonable government would look like. “The elite” are an abomination of self-styled ‘divinities’, and they shouldn’t be allowed within a million miles of… Read more »

Xavier Delacroix
Xavier Delacroix
Jul 23, 2022 6:06 PM
Reply to  William Sabre

Satan connotes adversary only via opponent, but in the sense of opposite, as light is opposite to dark, or male to female, or positive to negative, or good to bad, or north to south, or one end of a piece of string to the other end.   This is because there is a deep, hidden meaning lurking underneath Dualism, and when you find out what it is, you’ll understand the nature of Satan and God.   The laity are indoctrinated to despise and deprecate Satan and abhor any mention thereof, being evil personified. This is one of the ways in which Satan’s identity is protected from scrutiny (and discovery).   The Hindu religion has deities such as Kali/Shiva that embody dual aspects in a single entity, rather than in separate ones, especially the aspect of creator/destroyer. Satan is ascribed the aspect of destroyer, and God, that of creator, however, ultimately… Read more »

Binra
Binra
Jul 23, 2022 6:52 PM
Reply to  William Sabre

The Adversary is inherent to a realm of choice, for our freedom to accept love has to be freedom to refuse it by accepting something ‘else’ in place of truth, hence masking in self-illusion as ‘temptation’ to act from a deception, which of course will seem to be anything but!
There is a notable human tendency to give Power – not just power to evil and this can be seen as a revealing of our unconscious focus IN its frame.
If we take our ‘good’ from opposing evil we are framed BY it.
Hence ‘War on ‘whatever’ – always feeds ‘whatever’.
That is why Jesus warned, resist ye not evil!
Such is the bait.
Align in and from truth.

J A
J A
Jul 23, 2022 11:53 AM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Have you ever heard of “***** ****”? -_o

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 23, 2022 7:25 PM
Reply to  J A

“an’ when they git ready… I say, when they git… ever hear tell of a shoggoth? ‘Hey, d’ye hear me? I tell ye I know what them things be – I seen ’em one night when… eh-ahhh-ah! e’yahhh… ”

roula
roula
Jul 23, 2022 12:59 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Yes, we will win it. But only here, on this forum…

Binra
Binra
Jul 23, 2022 1:58 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Deceit is the capacity of a mind to make conflict and be-live it at the hand of the Other

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 23, 2022 2:03 PM
Reply to  Chris Weisdorf

Pretty much agreed…

ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Jul 23, 2022 10:21 AM

“wonton poisoning in urban areas” – I always suspected there was a sinister agenda behind the proliferation of Chinese cuisine.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 23, 2022 1:55 PM
Reply to  ginghiniagenie

Funny…a few errors like that always escape you…sorry.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 23, 2022 3:10 PM
Reply to  ginghiniagenie

That’s funny….but forgive me…some error will typically always get through my editing!

ginghiniagenie
ginghiniagenie
Jul 23, 2022 6:12 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

No need to apologise, I’m just a frustrated proofreader. Smashing article by the way.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 23, 2022 6:28 PM
Reply to  ginghiniagenie

Thank you…I actually loved your comment…made me laugh…carry on!

mjh
mjh
Jul 23, 2022 8:27 PM
Reply to  ginghiniagenie

Nice to see a friendly exchange! And a good article as well, very thought provoking

William Sabre
William Sabre
Jul 23, 2022 10:02 AM

The first thing the globalist regime indoctrinated you into was materialism.

In ancient wisdom all matter was darkness, Egypt was named khemet ‘the black land’, all matter was dark-matter where the lusts and desires reigned free, power-struggles and angers cloud thought, the gross of the alchemist, cutting man off from his spiritual home, his more subtle nature. It’s this we’ve been indoctrinated into, everyone has, we’ve just lived through the dark-ages, forgive yourself, now is the time to lighten up.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 9:11 PM
Reply to  William Sabre

removal from nature – “clearance” etc aye, certainly

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jul 23, 2022 9:45 AM

Dr Hayen is, like so many of his kind, enthralled by the concept that at some time in history, humankind was uniformly in awe of an omnipotent deity. He might do well to consider that most corralled into going to church and paying tithes once a week were not in awe of a Deity, rather worried that the mafia goon enforcers might do seriously unpleasant things to their family if they didn’t play ball and mouth things they didn’t really mean along with everyone else. Churches didn’t become rich through force of argument. They did so through conquest, the use of gauleiter enforcement groups and through monopolistic mind control practices. Like all of these things, a subset of the population truly believed the propaganda. Just like they do over Covid now. First rule of true spirituality: you don’t need to go to a building to achieve it. It’s about your… Read more »

Jel
Jel
Jul 23, 2022 11:49 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Excellent point!

Add to that all the superstitious believes like “wimmin are evil” “put flour on burns” “reading and writing is for priests” “obey the king” “Broken and festering feet are beautiful” “a decent girl has to have her vagina cut up and sewn close” “20 children are a blessing if they are boys” “a man knows no pain” and so on.

I think, materialism first redeemed us from those dark believes, which ist a good thing.

Now we can shed all the manipulation that came instead and find out who we truly are.

I’m looking forward to that.

Organized religion ist organized crime, btw.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 23, 2022 1:19 PM
Reply to  Jel

Feminist/Commie garbage.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 24, 2022 4:33 PM

I have to admit I always liked the one about “take back from Caesar all he’s stolen from you and I, the Almighty, will help!”

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jul 23, 2022 1:27 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Bible based monotheism was very important to the banksters plan for world domination. The gospels were commissioned most probably by the powerful Alexandrian philosopher Philo Judaeus in the first century. Philo’s brother Alexander was the Rothschild of his time.The process of propagating, consolidating,organising and codifying the new religion took centuries and became compulsory in the Roman Empire. The creation of Christianity was perhaps the first step of globalism.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 23, 2022 3:06 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

That’s quite a sophisticated evaluation of who “I am”…”like so many of his kind”? What kind? You got all that from reading this one article? I actually do not agree with what you say in the first first 3/4s of your comment. At least I have not run across any evidence of people going to church for the reasons you cite. I’ll have to read my article again, but I certainly don’t recall conveying what you say I conveyed. Maybe I did unintentionally.. These articles are short, and I doubt if I am a good enough writer to really present the details of my point as clearly as I intended. I do believe, for whatever reason, that at “some time in history” many, if not most, people were in awe of an omnipotent deity. In many parts of the world they still are. I do agree 100% with your last… Read more »

Blind Gill
Blind Gill
Jul 23, 2022 6:31 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

“I do believe, for whatever reason, that at “some time in history” many, if not most, people were in awe of an omnipotent deity. In many parts of the world they still are.”

“Many” probably in the same ratio of those getting jabbed. Nothing new under the sun.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 24, 2022 4:41 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

In many parts of the world, folks practice Buddhism (2,500 years, at least), a non-theistic religion. Much reverence is shown to the figure of Siddhartha Gautama. But he is not “god” and buddhists know this.
The real possibility of achieving Supreme Perfect Enlightenment in one’s very lifetime is awesome in that it empowers the individual to full agency. Needless to say, as the practitioner approaches his/her SPE, the Bodhisattva principle kicks in.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 25, 2022 8:08 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

One author posited an inevitable evolution of any religion after the founders have died: (a) it emphasises joy or suffering (b) it emphases dogma and rituals (c) it emphases social service.

Buddhism is in both (b) and (c). Buddha has been installed within a panteon of lesser deities. It is no less or more debased than any other religion.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 25, 2022 3:48 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Any links, references, footnotes, etc to your assertions?

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 23, 2022 3:44 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Hello Rhys Jaggar: Excellent comment. Succinct, and right to the point.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 23, 2022 3:54 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Except for notable misfits. the religions did not do the conquering themselves. The pre-historic tribal chieftain and witch-doctor evolved into these:
:- Royalty issuing the practical laws and enforcing them.
:- Religious officials providing plans, legitimacy, justifications and propaganda.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jul 25, 2022 3:44 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Rhys, not meaning to beat a dead horse here, but I am curious to know where, in this article, do you find what you state in this comment? Are you referring to another article I wrote? I write a lot, and jumped into responding to your comment assuming what you say here (“Dr Hayen is, like so many of his kind, enthralled by the concept that at some time in history, humankind was uniformly in awe of an omnipotent deity”) was actually stated in my writing. To keep beating that horse, I will comment again. I don’t doubt what you say as a valid point… after the accusation that I fit into some group that believe in some particular thing (“like so many of his kind.”) At least I believe that the church could very well have been unethically persuasive. Maybe most did go to church out of fear bad… Read more »

Jack Bean
Jack Bean
Jul 23, 2022 9:41 AM

I have found people that have grown up in the glorious countryside a lot more level headed than those the grow up in the cities.

roula
roula
Jul 23, 2022 10:10 AM
Reply to  Jack Bean

That’s why they want to move people into Metropolis – like one by Fritz Lang – type smart megacities and lock them up there and then manage their behaviour through technology [ Covid thing was a grand-scale – and fully successful – rehearsal]. Mind you, not thinking as thinking is any longer of no importance in the West, but behaviour, another key strategy for the future, as access to anything will be behaviour-based [called social credit] i.e. obtained or denied based on ”good-bad” behavioral compliance [ do you remember Pavlov’s experiments?]. Orwell said ” We have means to make you think the way we want. This noble critical formulation is now of no importance any longer. These days it was advanced onto: ”We have means to make you live, i.e. behave, the way we need. Not ”advanced” really, but dragged into the very behavioral bottom. For decades universities and so… Read more »

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 23, 2022 11:42 AM
Reply to  roula

Urbanisation has collapsed birth rates everywhere it’s been tried.

J A
J A
Jul 23, 2022 11:55 AM
Reply to  Edwige

??? everyone is shitting out babies here

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 23, 2022 1:30 PM
Reply to  Edwige

“The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. . .” — Bill Gates

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 23, 2022 12:48 PM
Reply to  roula

As Yuval Harari puts it, “Man is now a hackable animal.”

These people aren’t shy about telling us their plans.

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 23, 2022 2:58 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

He speaks for himself.

There’s a nice Icelandic word, “nautahakk”, meaning minced beef.
I expect his time will come…

roula
roula
Jul 23, 2022 3:38 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I hope so.
Khazer might scare him too

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 23, 2022 7:29 PM
Reply to  wardropper

That’s pretty funny!

But I suggest that he speaks for a whole coterie of “elites.”

wardropper
wardropper
Jul 23, 2022 9:58 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

Agreed.
I’m sure he speaks for most of them.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 24, 2022 4:44 PM
Reply to  wardropper

There is a great English word too. “Asshole”!

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 9:46 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

cunt?

antitermite
antitermite
Jul 24, 2022 4:34 AM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

I’ve read his books where he states this, and he repeats it in some of his speeches (eg https://www.ynharari.com/commencement-speech-2020-congratulations-you-are-now-hackable-animals/ So it sounds like a direction society is headed. The specific examples YNH gives pertain to biometric monitoring & control. Something akin to the chip in the pig’s brain that Elon used to turn it into an organic robot. But no one is going to volunteer to put a chip in their vitals, not even the wokest Karen, not for any money. And it sounds too implausible, too science-fiction (even though some of it has been factually achieved). I think this “hacking” of humankind is a lot more sinister. My hypothesis is also terrible science fiction, but very pertinent.. Let’s say, another way to “hack” a human being could be to replace its immune system. Give it an equivalent to pre-Columbian indigenes, so that when Smallpox 2023 is released, the lethality… Read more »

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jul 24, 2022 4:46 AM
Reply to  antitermite

“Let’s say, another way to “hack” a human being could be to replace its immune system.”

I agree with that, and I’d also say another way to “hack” a human being is to remove its soul, that ineffable something that makes each of us unique.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 23, 2022 4:00 PM
Reply to  roula

It is 75% in Russia compared to 61% in China. A surprise to me.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jul 24, 2022 9:45 PM
Reply to  Jack Bean

yass country folk far more real and resilient (not always the right way!) but aye, long live the Uponlandis moose.