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WATCH: Mass Media Q&A

James Corbett hosts a question and answer with some students of his Mass Media: A History online course.

From the history of media to our relationship with to an intriguing question about Gulf War embedded reporting that goes in a very unexpected direction, you won’t want to miss this info-packed Q&A.

An excellent and informative programme.

For sources, links and shownotes click here.
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Sophie - Admin1
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Sophie - Admin1
Aug 23, 2022 8:13 AM

Hi all. Happy to announce our comments are back on line. The comment database broke – again – last night, necessitating a reboot. We are looking into potential reasons this has happened repeatedly in recent times.

Johnny
Johnny
Aug 23, 2022 8:27 AM

Somebody(s) don’t like you?

CanadianBacon
CanadianBacon
Aug 23, 2022 8:28 AM
Reply to  Johnny

I was about to say the same thing

plino
plino
Aug 23, 2022 1:13 PM

I thought WEF’s cleaning staff were trying out their new broom, which they’re alluding to in a recent article.

After the publication gained popularity, they have already included praise:

Readers: Please be aware that this article has been shared on websites that routinely misrepresent content and spread misinformation.

Down:

The human element should also not be ignored. The thousands of moderators tasked with keeping abhorrent content offline must witness it themselves, placing them at high risk of mental illness and traumatic disorders. Beyond care for moderators, this situation may limit the operation’s effectiveness, as high churn and staffing instabilities lead to low organizational stability and inevitable moderation mistakes.

While AI provides speed and scale and human moderators provide precision, their combined efforts are still not enough to proactively detect harm before it reaches platforms. To achieve proactivity, trust and safety teams must understand that abusive content doesn’t start and stop on their platforms. Before reaching mainstream platforms, threat actors congregate in the darkest corners of the web to define new keywords, share URLs to resources and discuss new dissemination tactics at length.

To overcome the barriers of traditional detection methodologies, we propose a new framework: rather than relying on AI to detect at scale and humans to review edge cases, an intelligence-based approach is crucial.

By bringing human-curated, multi-language, off-platform intelligence into learning sets, AI will then be able to detect nuanced, novel online abuses at scale, before they reach mainstream platforms. Supplementing this smarter automated detection with human expertise to review edge cases and identify false positives and negatives and then feeding those findings back into training sets will allow us to create AI with human intelligence baked in.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/08/online-abuse-artificial-intelligence-human-input

The other thing I thought was that Offg was Mr. Charrington to us poor Winston Smiths. “We had a good time in the quiet room with Julia, away from the all-seeing eye, but the lights came on and the picture fell off the wall,” I said to myself.

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 23, 2022 4:44 PM
Reply to  plino

I have found the “guffaw factor” to be an infallible guide in detecting crap. As here:

“The human element should also not be ignored. The thousands of moderators tasked with keeping abhorrent content offline must witness it themselves, placing them at high risk of mental illness and traumatic disorders.”

What a hoot!

plino
plino
Aug 23, 2022 4:57 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Yeah, right? Who would have thought it would come to such absurd examples of inverted reality? (But, on the other hand, watching the incredible twisting of huge historical events and facts over the years, how could it not come to today’s idiocy?)

Well, at least let’s laugh until we cooperate with the upside-down world.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 23, 2022 9:41 PM
Reply to  plino

There will be no cooperation here.
This laugh will echo through eternity…

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Aug 23, 2022 6:05 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I know, right? My God, are people really that damned scared of words? I mean really? Traumatic language now? PTSD from reading an “abhorrent comment?” Wow. Talk about a way to minimize actual real trauma? Talk about being so self centered that one is now traumatized for life by an offhand ugly remark? Why, they’re not narcissistic at all, are they?

What in hell are these people going to do when the real shit hits the fan? Oh never mind, they’ll be hiding under their beds, fully diapered up, all windows sealed so no dirty air gets in, cowering every time they hear a noise and starving to death due to their fear of coming out from under the bed. Good riddance.

Clive WilliamsCoronavirus
Clive WilliamsCoronavirus
Aug 25, 2022 12:53 AM
Reply to  Lizzyh7

Your an American
Shouldn’t you be focusing on domestic political overiding issues involving amateurish vogue failures judging from that publics waning interests. Followed by yet more bizarre idealist advertising abandoning rational reason.
To what end, more specifically other than perhaps a National reboot of the free market economy. If that is so may I ask exactly how does it expect to bluid pandering to negative frailing jesters of continued insecurity.
Or to be specific perhaps you’d outline a daily or typical weekly routine post 20th March 2020?

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 23, 2022 8:06 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The horror!

George Mc
George Mc
Aug 23, 2022 8:48 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

No you have to say it twice!

John Ervin
John Ervin
Aug 23, 2022 7:06 PM
Reply to  plino

Wow. Need I say, it must be said, again, WOW.

If that ain’t just a hydra-headed psyop, I just don’t know.

“Abhorrent content” has a prim ‘Blofeldian’ ring to it?

(Cone to think of it, Schwab would make a great understudy, no need for makeup. No doubt that’s been noticed before.)

mgeo
mgeo
Aug 24, 2022 5:53 AM

Though veteranstoday.com are true believers in covid and the holy jab, they have been under attack for other reasons, for maybe 5 years. They have taken precautions. Unfortunately, this makes any page of theirs take at least 30 sec. more to load.

Edwige
Edwige
Aug 24, 2022 1:17 PM

The media can spin anything in any direction they like that fits their agenda.

One PM parties and it’s a hanging offense; another parties and it’s all hands on deck to the rescue:

https://dumptheguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/24/finlands-pm-is-a-young-woman-in-power-her-partying-is-the-total-opposite-of-disgrace

Examples this blatant are almost certainly deliberate outright mockery.

Zane
Zane
Aug 24, 2022 11:00 AM

Central Information Agency.

niko
niko
Aug 24, 2022 1:20 AM

In James’ response to the question from Peter (ca. 21.45 mark) regarding impacts of (media) technology, he mentions neo-Ludditism doesn’t work in solving problems because essentially it’s like cutting off an arm, as we are social creatures who in naturally seeking communication and relations with others extend this basic need and desire by means of technological development.

I recall the Luddites not so much being anti-technological as anti-authoritarian, particularly in the way illegitimate authorities, from private property profiteers of the owning class to state protection rackets like the rule of law covering for their organized crime early on in capital accumulation, made use of technology to further their own imperial purposes of conquering and controlling markets and the economy. Luddism was largely a movement among artisans happier with their craft skills and scales of work, even if exploited as with the putting out system of manufacturing, than the centralized factory system which dispossessed them all the more, drastically so, of their liberty and autonomy over conditions of their own labor. This more anarchic, human-skilled-and-scaled work included creative development of the means of production by themeselves, contrary to the ideological association of progress with centralized capital control, corporate capital’s parasitical and predatory exploitation of independent producers providing one notable example of such false consciousness.

If as James suggests we were to return to a Stone Age stage of technology, would we end up retracing much the same paths of development that have brought us to where we are today? There’s nothing inevitable about the larger political contexts of power which govern any technology’s uses and developments, if not its existence in the first place. And the social relations of production determine the material forces of production insofar as the latter serves not as an assemblage of tools but an organized ecosystem, an economy, serving class interests. Would ‘our’ world be the same if working class interests had more say-so over the course of technological development, with all the complex, structural questions of quality (e.g., time) as well as quantity (e.g., surplus) this would involve?

Apart from claims of human nature, convenient for capitalist class psychopathy, being red in tooth and claw, we are, as James emphasizes, social creatures through and through – in a good sense. We can do better than the new abnormal’s anti-human technocracy now rolling out to complete the bloody progress of ruling class control of human history. However, at this stage of industrial ‘civilization’, maybe it is inevitable that if we fail to act politically to bring about the social revolution necessary to build material means for common people’s own radical reset of the dominant system of class rule, metaphors of cutting off one’s arm will no longer make sense to mutants who have become nothing more than extensions of machines. Maybe it’s finally in our human interest to be neo-Luddite.

Russian Hank
Russian Hank
Aug 23, 2022 5:01 PM

Any chance of transcripts of the videos for those of us who can still read?

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 23, 2022 3:27 PM

Just a local story from a village in northern Iceland, illustrating the screwy sentimentality pervading all our media today:

The basic story was this:

“The police in the North West received a notification that a firearm had been pointed at two people in a home in Blönduós and that it was a serious incident. The police armed themselves before entering the scene, and another response within the police was activated, including an armed special force. It turned out that firearms had been pointed at two people, where one was killed and the other wounded. The alleged perpetrator of the shooting was also found dead at the scene. Other responders were also activated, including the Red Cross trauma team in the district. The injured person was flown to Reykjavík. At this stage his health is not known. It should be noted that the police did not need to use weapons because of the incident. Two are in police custody because of the case. At this point, the chief of police in the North West will not comment on the matter, which is at a sensitive level. The office is expected to issue a second press release at noon. 18 as of today.”

Today, however, we are getting absolutely no details, except that for 10 minutes the Icelandic State TV interviewed inhabitants of the village, who are getting “shock treatment” and clearly relishing their opportunity to show Hollywood what great actors they are, despite not being able to squeeze a single tear out of their attention-craving faces.

I know I talk like a heartless bastard at times, but the crying woman, the “shock first-aid”, the yelling man, but also the completely unconcerned people in the background, are becoming a ridiculous and superficial fashion in the press, unconnected with the reality of grief and mourning, and serving only to quench the media’s rabid thirst for “drama”, at the cost of all else.

Of course this is a tragedy for the family concerned, but if the media are going to talk about it at all, the only thing of interest to the public is what actually happened – and that is exactly what the media will not talk about… The overwrought people getting ‘shock treatment’ are the only thing in the picture…

Perhaps it’s a case of, “Look at how much we need the good ol’ authorities to look after us in times of stress and confusion” …?

I also love the new definition of “shooting two people with a gun”, but, really, “pointing a firearm at two people”, doesn’t seem accurate, somehow…
Exactly what are the media trying to excuse, or apologize for here…?

rubberheid
rubberheid
Aug 23, 2022 3:52 PM
Reply to  wardropper

we had that on one of the bigger inner isles last week too!

1 dead, three hospitalised, main theme of story was actually how super cool and committed the local, off duty, cop was and how professional the emergency services were…. no real interest in what actually happened…. the departed got less mention than the cop.

mmmm, utter manipulation of a tragic wee saga into local fear porn with, as ye describe, 15 minutes of fame for the best ham actors at hand…? and a Nannystate Superheroes in Sturgeonland in “take-home”, ghu

real people died, bless them.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 23, 2022 5:21 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Sorry about the phrase, “shock treatment”. Of course I meant “psychological trauma first-aid”. I’ve lived in Iceland too long and I sometimes flounder when looking for the right English phrase…

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 23, 2022 9:37 PM
Reply to  wardropper

There was a follow-up in Icelandic TV news today…
Guess what… The poor traumatized police need to be able to protect themselves better with more arms when a completely unpredictable family tragedy involving drug abuse and revenge hits the headlines…

Better-armed police – in Iceland…? A country with one murder every ten years…?
Follow the money, my dear friends, and you will find humanoid pieces of shit.

mgeo
mgeo
Aug 24, 2022 6:09 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Low murder rate is not a major hindrance. That can be corrected giving some suckers certain psychoactive drugs.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 24, 2022 2:55 PM
Reply to  mgeo

I’m pretty sure that’s where we’re headed.
A decade or so ago, Iceland’s then Justice Minister (a slave to the equivalent of the Tory Party) pushed for Iceland having an actual army

Fortunately, he was widely laughed at, but such people don’t give up.
Whatever drives their party politics, it isn’t human.

mgeo
mgeo
Aug 24, 2022 6:07 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Maybe the gun was accidentally pointed at one guy, it went off, and the bullet passed through the victim to hit a second one.

In neo-liberalism, the important aim is to exploit any need or crisis (real or concocted) to expand the plunder of public wealth. In this case, there may be more no-knock raids on imaginary terrorists, with all the requisite purchases, as per the imperial example.

Paul Prichard
Paul Prichard
Aug 23, 2022 1:10 PM

Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2022-08-22. WEF: useless people? Humanity: it’s WEF that is useless, not people. Op overreach – ten threats to your security https://twitter.com/paulrprichard/status/1561828137113092098

YourPointBeing
YourPointBeing
Aug 23, 2022 12:50 PM

OT: “Cost of living – live: Energy bills set to hit £6,552 as UK faces ‘catastrophic winter”
Just another coincidence these numbers add upto 18? (=6+6+6, 3×3+3×3 etc. etc.)

Yes probably. Tell me again how many other news items with numbers in i need to ignore to find these……..

Mr Y
Mr Y
Aug 23, 2022 3:09 PM
Reply to  YourPointBeing

Hehe …

YourPointBeing
YourPointBeing
Aug 23, 2022 4:14 PM
Reply to  YourPointBeing

“Inflation set to ‘enter the stratosphere’ and hit 18.6% by January as gas prices continue to surge”

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

sherkying
sherkying
Aug 23, 2022 12:08 PM

@ 5mins James Corbett mentioned he has lost interest in mainstream and alternative news.
Who else sensed this.?

Mucho
Mucho
Aug 23, 2022 11:56 AM

Brendon O Connell highlighted a very important document on a recent show which 100 percent confirms that chemtrails and weather warfare are a prime area of research and development for the US military, dating back to 1996. Here is the document and supporting files from Brendons show:

Weather as a Force Multiplier:Owning the Weather in 2025

US Air Force document AF 2025 Final Report – Weather Modification Extract_Part 3

https://mega.nz/file/grZTiIRQ#CvgQt60QNlX8vrC-zY2Xp1FFwio9YguuVwKCrnkgYVs

Executive Summary

In 2025, US aerospace forces can “own the weather” by capitalizing on emerging technologies and focusing development of those technologies to war-fighting applications. Such a capability offers the warfighter tools to shape the battlespace in ways never before possible. It provides opportunities to impact operations across the full spectrum of conflict and is pertinent to all possible futures. The purpose of this paper is to outline a strategy for the use of a future weather-modification system to achieve military objectives rather than to provide a detailed technical road map.

A high-risk, high-reward endeavor, weather-modification offers a dilemma not unlike the splitting of theatom. While some segments of society will always be reluctant to examine controversial issues such asweather-modification, the tremendous military capabilities that could result from this field are ignored at our own peril. From enhancing friendly operations or disrupting those of the enemy via small-scale tailoring of natural weather patterns to complete dominance of global communications and counterspace control,weather-modification offers the war fighter a wide-range of possible options to defeat or coerce anadversary. Some of the potential capabilities a weather-modification system could provide to a war-fightingcommander in chief (CINC) are listed in table 1.

Technology advancements in five major areas are necessary for an integrated weather-modificationcapability: (1) advanced nonlinear modeling techniques, (2) computational capability, (3) informationgathering and transmission, (4) a global sensor array, and (5) weather intervention techniques. Some intervention tools exist today and others may be developed and refined in the future.

Just a conspiracy theory of course, or maybe a cock-up and the people who wrote this were high on goats piss at the time of writing.

Mucho
Mucho
Aug 23, 2022 11:57 AM
Reply to  Mucho

Mucho
Mucho
Aug 23, 2022 11:57 AM
Reply to  Mucho

LEAKED VIDEO: CNN Director ADMITS Climate Change The Next ‘Pandemic Like Story’

Mucho
Mucho
Aug 23, 2022 12:27 PM
Reply to  Mucho

The issue of chemtrails is a good one to hit people who still believe in their bullshit with because it exposes a flaw in the climate change scam – the reality that corporations, the MIC and governments in their corporate welfare model are poncing money from the public to fund these odious schemes – which seek to deliberately change the weather – then they start crying and screaming because of extreme weather events – which they are causing. Its yet more problem, reaction, solution. They create the problem, focus attention on it – a combination of making people ultra fearful of nothing at all ie business as usual repackaged as state terrorism (as with the scamdemic) and them creating problems (like makng people very ill and killing them with the jabs and calling it covid), this then creates the demand for the solution. Theyre on a par with low grade sales people and criminals at the end of the day, just scamming and bamboozling people into buying their products with nothing but fear, lies, terrorism and non stop bullshit. To hell with these people, its time for the human race to wake the eff up to this crap and call it out and wake up as many people as possible with flyers and documents. Wake people up with good evidence, especially at the moment, while there is so much clear proof of crime and fraud by our treasonous scumbag governments and their agencies and all the corporate leeches feeding off it – all poncing off the public to the tune of billions then weaponising the areas of investment against the public.

FRANKENSKIES – CHEMTRAILS DOC

rubberheid
rubberheid
Aug 23, 2022 8:47 PM
Reply to  Mucho

it is mental that so many people refuse to accept this daily occurrence. sometimes it is absurdly obvious, many days just plainly obvious… speaking to an MSc student at work the other sunny month… ” yeah man but its just altitude and temperature blahhh”

other days, (but not lately) it is absent. i suppose it is like the recent event we are enduring… you see it or not..

so has working outdoors for years turned me into a sparkler??

serious shit folks, above vid is bang on. all real, from the ground looking up… wtf are they doing to us/earth??

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Aug 24, 2022 2:06 AM
Reply to  Mucho

Thanks Mucho: Excellent video.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Aug 23, 2022 3:32 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Hello Mucho: The weather control “conspiracy theory” has been ongoing for over 75 years – actually since about 1927 – … Not to worry. A few more years and a few more million tons of aluminum oxides, and no one will have enough air left to squeak out a complaint. >

Done at Geneva, on the 18 day of May 1977
 
Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques – A/RES/31/72 Annex – UN Documents: Gathering a body of global agreements
http://www.un-documents.net/enmod.htm

Erm… “Done”?

kevx
kevx
Sep 16, 2022 11:26 PM

it should be possible to breath in a bathtub just above the surface of the water. algae and lichen should create an Oxygen layer. piss in it to keep a bit warmer while trying to breath. hold your breath when the drones fly over. maybe swamp land isnt such a bad idea. i really worry in high altitudes ;} (bytheby, its a joke, well mostly)

jiin
jiin
Aug 23, 2022 9:10 PM
Reply to  Mucho

He is better than U.K column and alex jones.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Aug 23, 2022 9:53 PM
Reply to  Mucho

No conspiracy “theory”, just a conspiracy.

This from Global WAR-NING! Geoengineering Is Wrecking Our Planet and Humanity
Global Research E-Book, Centre for Research on Globalization

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and

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There’s your “climate change(s)” for you.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Aug 23, 2022 9:56 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

And it could be used to coerce whole nations into going along with such programs, such as the C-19 agenda.

mgeo
mgeo
Aug 24, 2022 7:31 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Malawi and Madagascar were recalcitrant in rolling out the jabs – like Tanzania before its president was eliminated. A bad typhoon hit the 2 countries in Jan. 2022, and at least Malawi is a little more cooperative.

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&hideControls=true&Metric=Vaccine+doses&Interval=12-month+rolling+total&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=CAN~USA~FRA~ITA~DEU~JPN~GBR~CHN~IND~IDN~MWI~MDG

Edwige
Edwige
Aug 23, 2022 9:43 AM

Weird that Corbett and PIlato spent much of the last NWIW discussing the Moonies without mentioning that group’s known CIA connections.

Howard
Howard
Aug 23, 2022 4:43 PM
Reply to  Edwige

It’s gotten to the point where it’s almost an embarrassment to note CIA involvement – kind of like saying: “Extra! Extra! Tomorrow will be here at the end of today! Read all about it!”

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
Aug 23, 2022 8:36 AM

Is the Ukraine war a Wag the Dog war?

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
Aug 23, 2022 9:04 AM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

Come on guys. Downvoting a simple question?

is Ukraine a Wag the Dog war? Fake bodies, staged “assasinations”, weird absence of any real evidence for real large scale fighting, strangely contradictory claims, and absence of any resolution.

The “war” between these two globalist puppets has been going on for SEVEN MONTHS and we are expected to believe Russia hasn’t even taken all of Donbass yet?

Anyone remember when we were told BACK IN MARCH that 50% of the Ukraine army was destroyed? And, what, Russia still can’t beat them?

Anyone remember when Russia was surrounding Kiev? Except then it wasn’t and never had been. Except then it was again. And then it never had been again.

Where are the Nazis? Are they making a pathetic last stand in the caves under the Azovstal steel works? Or are they literally everywhere doing atrocities?

Anyone even bothering to try to make sense of this ever-changing, constantly Memory-holed narrative?

I just wish someone in alt media was talking about this giant elephant

siamdave
siamdave
Aug 23, 2022 9:32 AM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

lots of stuff out there, check out the Duran, or Moon of Alabama ..

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
Aug 23, 2022 9:53 AM
Reply to  siamdave

Oh come on mate, do better! None of those blokes are in Ukraine and all they do is recycle one side of the war narrative third hand. They have no more clue than you or I as to whether any of those stories are true. They just opt to believe and “report” it. It’s just some fellas with a webcam telling us what Russian media say.

If the war is totally real why does the story keep changing and no one even acknowledge it does? How come street battles in Kiev one day and next day Russia was never near Kiev and is bogged down in Donbass for seven bloody months.

We now get reports of them taking teeny little villages in Nowheresville with six inhabitants like it was a big deal. Is that real world or just a way of stringing the story out.

And those bloody Nazis just keep popping up after being wiped out. Like a dead movie villain revived for the sequel.

No mate there’s something not right about this war story.

Another guy you used to post here asking where are the videos or pictures of the actual professional Russian army in Ukraine? I don’t know if anyone ever posted any such video.

plino
plino
Aug 23, 2022 1:28 PM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

More like nothing, not something, is wrong with this military history, I’d say.

More like nothing, not something, is wrong with this “military” history, I’d say.

plino
plino
Aug 23, 2022 1:30 PM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

No mate there’s something not right about this war story.

More like nothing, not something, is wrong with this “military” history, I’d say.
(..As with my first answer.:))

rubberheid
rubberheid
Aug 23, 2022 7:12 PM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

i actually agree with you, insomuch as the entire event, like many others, is scripted.

having said that, intel slava Z etc etc on telegram, or even a vaguely observant scroll on alt-u-toob-esque stuff shows screeds of de-lifed ukrops, some ugly, tragic stuff.
many people really are getting ground up, part of the plan.

and a lot of pro-Rus propaganda, certainly. but check them out instead of any westroidlievision.
how round is a sphere? so ye get a -ve

UKR had largest military in Europa. it doesn’t now. that is probably real enough, even if the Rus advance is deliberately slow…??
but, yeah, something amiss in all this “war” (unless you’re there).
I’d be interested in real appraisal of russki losses…?

the Long War is eternal, a reality for future generations? all part of the plan. are we not just so sick of this evil pantomime?

british trained bad guys will pop up inside russia’s borders for the foreseeable future. that’s what brits do, that’s wht the ‘Ra were pretty good.. most had done some british service..??

The Kherson Wall, coming soon, straddling the Black Sea to the Deepest Donbass….? ; ) funded by WEF….connecting the Silk Road, mmm

Odessa? Odyseuss? argh

kids in 2038 will be watching action movies of genius-cyborg-poet philosopher-warriors-of-wotan defeating asiatic hordes at the gates of europe whilst combating the eternal pestilence of biohazard extremis…..

if They win…

argh

antitermite
antitermite
Aug 23, 2022 9:48 AM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

Lots of food for thought here ~
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/alasdair-macleod-geopolitics-the-world-is-splitting-into-two/

No one who is in charge in the West is deluded to imagine that the borderline-3rd-world Ukraine could make a serious stand against Russia,
which really could have ended it in the initial stages, if they did an American-style shock&awe.

The USA intends this to be a “forever war”, another shot at creating a “Vietnam” for Russia (they already had their “Afghanistan”).
But now Putin is turning it on its head, ie he can make it a forever war, especially considering how it sucks up western hard & soft power, whilst even boosting Russia’s.

As per the article above, the squeeze will probably continue until the people of Europe scream.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 23, 2022 9:59 AM
Reply to  antitermite

This analysis, like so many, simply ignores the common purpose both “sides” share and how the war permits both Russia and the West to pursue the globalist agenda under the guise of “responding to provocation”.

antitermite
antitermite
Aug 23, 2022 5:56 PM

Okay, yes, try again:

The only people who are interested in stopping the war, are
– the Ukrainians & Russians & others who are in the teeth of the blender
– the ordinary folk of Europe who are experiencing acute power shortages
– regular people in the global south who are experiencing food problems
– other everyday peoples around the world who whilst not having significant shortages of commodities (yet) are still affected by rising prices
– normal people like you & me who think that this & every other war is evil & stupid

On the other hand, the folk who are interested in keeping it going, are the handful who have some investment in it.
I don’t mean literal stocks in Raytheon or Halliburton, but those who won’t feel any of the repercussions we regular people do, in fact the reverse, their comparative material & social status is enhanced by the suffering of everyone else.

A recent headline: 60% of Germans will be using all their available resources to just exist:
https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/up-to-60-percent-of-german-households-will-have-to-use-their-total-available-income-or-more-for-pure-living/
Ok, just numbers, but an indicator.
This implies that most ordinary German people (& it won’t be confined to Germany) will have zero disposable income.
Most of the rest will be getting by on 1-2 meals a day, working extra hours (if their employment didn’t dry up), dumping their pets, and otherwise a whole lot more miserable, just to stay on the treadmill.

On the other hand, what proportion of disposable income would be affected, for those climate change drama queens who flit about in private jets because it would take twice as long in the limo?

How exactly this ties in with the WEF agenda, is stuff for entire articles, which I see you’ve already done ~

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 23, 2022 8:32 PM
Reply to  antitermite

No worries, Anti … OG is heavily invested in the “both Russia and the West … pursue the globalist agenda” point of view. (I want to inform myself as to others who are seeing things this way … )
All I can say is that I’m so glad I was able to see those fake Nazi tattoos wash off the bodies of those poor boys who were only there trying to defend the sovereignty of their fellow Ukrainians.
No wait, sorry, I only imagined that. The tattoos were real! The tattooed oppression of the Donbass was real too. What a nightmare!
Isn’t there a better way to pursue common agendas, Sophie?

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 23, 2022 2:57 PM
Reply to  antitermite

The people of Europe will never scream.
They have become entirely accustomed to being manipulated, and they don’t even notice it any more – it’s just so nice and cosy to relax and do nothing.

I am certain that if the devil himself were to sit in the Oval Office tomorrow – horns, tail, red skin and all – nobody in Washington would try to evict him.
They’d give him an award for services to humanity.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Aug 23, 2022 3:42 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I think the Nobel Peace Prize should be awarded to the Devil herself…

Notice the undeclared increase in “undeclared” wars. Wow! Progress!

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 23, 2022 5:16 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Oh, wait … !

rubberheid
rubberheid
Aug 23, 2022 7:26 PM
Reply to  antitermite

actually,
well allegedly,

the west have spent at least 8 years training the regular and nutter forces of UKR to NATO level…. so NATO themselves claim. that’s an understatement, we had UKR marines training on the Solway for 2 decades now!

and then let’s talk all dem weapons and money…lol and all the dead Poles, yanks, brits and war tourists and all dem entrenchments..

pulverised.

delusional or deliberate? fair point.

a slaughter.

a soul harvest.

does no one else find it insane that modern infantry are dug in to positions that just make them a target? we are seeing WW2 shtuff on a WW5 battlefield, that strikes me as insane.

a malicious slaughter of life.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 23, 2022 4:36 PM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

“The Ukraine Dog and Pony Show is rather sad is it not?”
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Benton
Benton
Aug 23, 2022 10:42 AM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

Yes, the so called “war” in Ukraine is an important tool for implementing parts of Agenda 2030 concerning food and energy while the herd is occupied by fireworks.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Aug 24, 2022 4:31 AM
Reply to  Benton

Chabad Lubavitch

Russia has 50 Chabad Lubavitch centres. Ukraine has 36.

Benton
Benton
Aug 24, 2022 12:32 PM

Yes, but I think they are a tool just like the Jesuit order or Freemasons. Royalty and nobility have ruled us for millennia and probably still do so with their “democracy” hoax. They say we have “democracy” but royalty are still there, like a never ending herpes infection, being each countrys most expensive welfare recipient. Blood lines rule the world and money is also just their tool.

Benton
Benton
Aug 25, 2022 8:53 AM

A majority off US presidents have been related to the British royals and this is not a coincidence. A couple of revolutions and world wars later they established democracy between royal bloodlines where now even the second, third, fourth and so on offspring can be king for a limited period in our “democracy” farce.

People are and have the family tree the state say they are and have just like they do in witness protection programs but on a much larger scale. The so called royals and nobles viewed us as cattle on two legs for thousands of years and it’s naive to think they suddenly would let the cattle decide not only their own destiny but also theirs.