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AUDIO: Six Months Later – Russia’s “special military operation” in Ukraine

Riley Waggaman

What’s going on in Ukraine?

In an attempt to (briefly) answer this question, I asked Marko Marjanović and Rolo Slavskiy to Zoom-chat with me for an hour.

Marko is the editor of Anti-Empire.com (now available on Substack) and has written about the Ukraine conflict for this blog.

Rolo is a writer, commentator and Russian patriot who writes in English and podcasts in Russian. You can follow his work at his Substack, The Slavland Chronicles.

They both provide perspectives on the situation in Ukraine that go largely ignored in much of English-language “independent media,” and I am very grateful they took the time to share their views with me. Maybe a Part II is coming?

NOTE: I absolutely butchered the intro (which I cut out to avoid extreme shame and embarrassment), so to avoid any confusion: Rolo is the first to speak after my very brief opening remarks.

In the coming weeks I intend to reach out to other writers and pundits in hopes of assembling a wide range of opinions on the conflict. (After I finish the Q&A series that I barely started.) So stay tuned.

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Riley Waggaman is your humble Moscow correspondent. He worked for RT, Press TV, Russia Insider, yadda yadda. In his youth, he attended a White House lawn party where he asked Barack Obama if imprisoned whistleblower Bradley Manning (Chelsea was still a boy back then) “had a good Easter.” Good times good times. You can subscribe to his Substack here, or follow him on twitter or Telegram.

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plino
plino
Sep 21, 2022 12:50 PM

Well, look at that.

-Putin has ordered the partial mobilization of the Russian population, including ordering military reservists into active service and a boost to weapons production-
-Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu added more detail on the partial mobilization Wednesday morning, saying it would see 300,000 additional personnel called up to serve in the military campaign in Ukraine-

One might think that, in addition to justifying the inevitable, painstakingly engineered collapse, and in addition to justifying the deliberate deepening of the created crises and their further expansion (and other things), the “special operation” may have another meaning. So phase 2, for example, could be an even more special operation, of a higher degree. (Of course, the old aristocratic families, the bankers, etc., from any part of the world, as well as their domestic pets “at the head” of states, corporations and organizations, have nothing to worry about, because whatever there is, with possible mass participation, they will not have to participate directly.)

Another thing that comes to mind is that, of course, whatever the big game is, it originates and is played by those who currently hold the really power and orchestrate the actions of the respective pawns, the higher instruments of power. And the action meets their present wants and needs, etc. But I, being a little more simple, somehow, in my mind appeared the image of that “an American author, poet, orator, editor, lawyer, jurist and Confederate general”, Albert, and his supposed vision, which is attributed to him that he had in 1870, for “three ww necessary for the realization of the nwo”.

Maybe it’s a geopolitical storm in a glass of water, but the section is good for a short off-topic, for the story about a great storyteller like this Albert.

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Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Aug 30, 2022 8:18 AM

Simple question. Can anyone point to any actual footage of the alleged “offensive” allegedly taking place in Kherson?

Let’s set some definitions for said footage in advance –

1- MORE THAN a dozen active “fighters”.

2 – MORE THAN a couple of tanks or other hardware.

3 – Evidence of widescale engagement with return fire (ie not just a piece of artillery firing at an alleged but invisible “enemy” in an otherwise empty field).

4 – Massed troops on the move and under fire

5 – NO dodgy mini war films of what easily could be a sterile training exercise with creepy “action” music added and some obscure production company logo. – Actual, real, raw video from war photographers or journalists or locals that fits all above criteria.

If the war is the one they are describing on both “sides” this type of video should be everywhere, and should have been since Day One. I’ve yet to see any. But I live in hope.

Please share anything you see that fits the above stipulations.

plino
plino
Aug 29, 2022 9:19 PM

The last bastion of the narrative: Russia does not tolerate the spread of the ideology of transgenderism. They don’t? Maybe not.

This is Tsargrad, a conservative publication that Riley has often quoted. Conservatively, in the sense that he supports the “special operation”, he believes in Putin and that the problems with the creep of the bad part of Western “values” are created by the “fifth column”. Which is also that there is a real war in which Russia and the “inclusive capitalists” are two fighting sides. So they attribute the malign tendencies imposed in Russia to parts of the administration, the government, but not to all, not to the main ones, and definitely not to Putin.

What to do, I won’t convince them otherwise.
Parts of their August 27 publication (some may find it too extreme, I warn):

Can a publishing house that advertises books about children’s sexual deviations and novels about cannibalism oppose the Special Operations and actions of the Russian army in Ukraine and receive government contracts in return? As it turned out, completely. The Russian book market continues to be in a state of ideological field where anyone can develop any, even the wildest and morally unacceptable narratives. This will not affect state support.

At the beginning of the summer, the Russian Book Union published a rating of the most popular novelties among the citizens of our country for the first half of 2022. The top three, in addition to the comic book, as well as the “spiritual guide about self-love”, included the novel “Summer in a pioneer tie” by Elena Malisova and Katerina Silvanova, where the whole storyline revolves around the pederastic relationship of pioneer Yura and pioneer leader Volodya. This brick of 544 pages is printed in a print run of 200 thousand (!) a specimens.

The pederastic drama from Popcorn Books received rave reviews among the liberal intelligentsia.

It turns out that under the juice of “fiction” you can encourage anything, even cannibalism. And that’s not an exaggeration. The publishing house “Polyandria No Age” published with eleven thousand copies the novel “Special meat ” by the Argentine writer Agustina Basterica.

“The sudden emergence of a deadly virus affecting animals is rapidly changing the face of the world. All of them, from pets to wild animals, are subject to immediate destruction in order to prevent the spread of infection. Eating their meat is strictly forbidden. In this emergency, which threatens mass starvation, the governments of different countries come to a radical solution: legalize the cultivation, reproduction, slaughter and processing of human flesh. Legalized cannibalism divides society into two groups: those who eat and those who will be eaten.” – says the description on the official website of “Polyandria No Age“.

https://polyandria.ru/noage/catalog/vse-knigi/osoboe-myaso/?sphrase_id=156371

Of course, you can try to “move off the topic” by pointing out that “Polyandria” and “Polyandria No Age” are different entities. One, they say, is kind, good, bright – for children, and any shock content is for adults. But the official portal itself says in plain text: “NoAge – books beyond age.” Literally in a few sentences there is a contradiction, which nevertheless puts an actual sign of equality between products for children and for adults:

“Polyandria” introduces children to the world around them through impressions and experiences with the help of extraordinary stories, NoAge does the same with adults – gives the opportunity to open up to the new, forgotten or lost.

How? For example, publishing books for children by an open Finnish homosexual and transvestite (and “honored” – the bearer of the title “Miss Transvestite 2006”) Crystal Snow (Tapio Huuska). [ The book “Penny Nut Heart and a terrible cake “Damn you to hell”;www. polyandria.ru/catalog/novinki/penni-orekhovoe-serdtse-i-uzhasnyy-tort-propadi-ty-propadom/]

However, moms and dads of young readers did not appreciate the attempt to impose a sexual pervert from Suomi on them as a good children’s writer:https:// t.me/polyandria/108

Publishing is not limited to promoting left-liberal Western narratives among the masses. The leadership decided to enter directly into politics and oppose the special military operation of Russia for denazification and demilitarization of Ukraine. We did it in a united front with Popcorn Books, which publishes books about pederasty in Pioneer camps.

https:// t.me/polyandria/53

By the way, in Russia, opponents of special operations can not only successfully carry out commercial activity, but also participate in public procurement. In 2021. “non-Warriors” from both Polyandria Print and Polyandria NOA Age, according to data from open sources, received state orders for a total of 1,430,000 rubles.

But maybe the beginning of the Apostille somehow changed the situation? No matter how. On July 27 this year Polyandia No Age signed a contract with a state institution – the Association of cultural centers of the Western administrative district of Moscow for the supply of a set of children’s literature (contract price – 208 350 rubles).

Another state contract was concluded on 13 May 2022. for a more modest amount-42 100 rubles. The publishing house will kindly provide a set of printed editions to a budget institution – the Central City Public Library in St. Petersburg

Unfortunately, much-needed laws have been passed in Russia for a very long time. The first initiative to ban the promotion of pederasty to minors at the level of the supreme legislative body appeared in 2003. The law appeared in 2013. What have they been doing for ten years? The mind is incomprehensible.

But there is still so much to be done on the road to liberalization. In Russia, we recall, since the late 90s pederasty has been depatologized, that is, it is not considered a disease, contrary to the opinion of a huge number of authoritative experts. In addition, since the same sinister times, the change of the civil sex is allowed, for which the official websites of the structures of the Ministry of interior are directly written. Even in Europe, the opposite is happening. So in 2020. sex change was banned in Hungary. The question is why does our country, which positions itself as a defender of Christian values, do nothing? In 2008. homosexuals were allowed to be blood donors in Russia. It is banned in China, Croatia, Iceland, Singapore, Turkey and other countries. But the paradox is that the rules for donating to homosexuals in Russia are more liberal than in the United States, Sweden, Norway, Belgium, Canada, Australia.

The era of timid and inept attempts to integrate the globalists into the world is gone forever on February 24, 2022. The time has come for the Russians to regain cultural hegemony and destroy the artificial constructions accumulated over thirty years of stagnation. And then at such a pace in the country decriminalize cannibalism. Tolerance.

https://tsargrad.tv/investigations/posobija-po-ljudoedstvu-dlja-detej-po-russkim-udarili-bumazhnoj-specoperaciej_612132

They are waiting for the non-globalists of the government to “wake up”.:) They will wait a lot. (Unless it’s controlled media, maybe it is.)

g wiltek
g wiltek
Aug 29, 2022 8:44 PM

Marco. I have given up on counting ho many time “yo know” (enow) has been used.
Sometimes people should listen to themselves, it can be frightening!

Vagabard
Vagabard
Aug 29, 2022 4:49 PM

Make too many edits to your post (more than 5?)…

…get sent to pending. Do not pass Go. Do not collect 200 votes

Maybe a new rule  🤔 

Vagabard
Vagabard
Aug 29, 2022 4:31 PM

A Ukrainian attack drone was apparently shot down yesterday [28th August] over building number 1 of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant (Ukraine). Just before the IAEA is set to visit.

Source (Russian):
https://function.mil.ru:443/news_page/country/[email protected]

If true, then there are forces actively seeking to create another Chernobyl, Fukushima-style disaster. This time not accidentally.

The out-workings of a nihilistic worldview, perhaps. If this ship goes down, then the whole world should go down with it.

Especially since the power station provides a fair chunk of electricity to southern Ukraine. Not only (potentially) shooting oneself in the foot, but everyone else’s feet in the vicinity too.

Disturbing times, with some highly disturbed forces at loose  🤔 

plino
plino
Aug 29, 2022 10:58 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

I saw this article in the Conservative (supporting the official narrative of a real war, or “special operation” as they call it) edition of Tsargad:

“RADIATION WILL COVER THE SOUTHWESTERN PART OF RUSSIA”: IN UKRAINE NAMED THE DATE OF THE MAIN ATTACK ON THE ZAPOROZHIAN NUCLEAR POWER PLANT?

While the IAEA prepares a mission to visit the nuclear power plant, uckreich continues to launch strikes on its territory. Apparently, they’re marking the nuclear fuel and waste storage areas.

Ukrainian Energoatom, the operator of the NPP” Nezalezhnaya “(which until recently were four, but after the Zaporizhia station came under the control of Russian troops, three remained), published” Rose of the winds ” for next Monday – August 29. According to these forecasts, in the event of an accident at the NPP, a radioactive cloud will form, which will pass over Crimea, Rostov Oblast, Krasnodar and Stavropol Krai and, of course, over the liberated territories of Donbas.

Another horror story to cause panic? Very likely, yes.

And continues here: https://tsargrad.tv/articles/radiacija-nakroet-jugo-zapad-rossii-na-ukraine-nazvali-datu-glavnogo-udara-po-zaporozhskoj-ajes_613842

Reading between the lines, according to your understanding of the actual situation of this part of the “great narrative”, one can probably draw some conclusions about the current state of things. If you want and think it might be helpful, take a look at the article.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Aug 30, 2022 7:20 AM
Reply to  plino

The lack of German, US or UK participants in the IAEA team is odd (though may be by agreement).

The continuous stream of shells being bombarded at the place is also very disturbing. Some of the recent ones fired from 40km away, I believe.

I suppose my question is what would motivate someone to launch a missile or drone strike on a nuclear plant. What would be going through their mind? It’s a bit like being the one that presses the launch button for a missile in a nuclear war. Watching ‘War Games (1983)‘ should be part of their military training

This article may offer a possible explanation. A Ukrainian desire to bring NATO-poleon in to the equation, by provoking Putin into a strike on decision-making centres
https://english.pravda.ru/world/153721-putin_kyiv/

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 29, 2022 3:08 PM

Ukraine has launched a counter-offensive in the Kherson region.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/08/29/ukraine-war-as-its-happening-a76553

2 HOURS AGO
A Ukrainian counter-offensive to take back Russian captured territory in the country’s south has begun, the head of the Joint Coordination Press Centre of the Defence Forces of Southern Ukraine, Natalia Humeniuk, said Monday.
The announcement comes amid reports of intensive Ukraine shelling of Russian controlled areas around the city of Kherson.
Russia ordered evacuations Monday of people from offices in the occupied town of Nova Kakhovka, Russian state-run news agency RIA Novosti reported.

2 HOURS AGO
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have breached the occupiers’ first line of defence near Kherson. They believe that Ukraine has a real chance to get back its occupied territories, especially considering the very successful use of Western weapons by the Ukrainian army.
— Stratcom Centre UA (@StratcomCentre) August 29, 2022

War in Ukraine – LIVE
https://twitter.com/i/events/1483255084750282753

plino
plino
Aug 28, 2022 10:19 PM

In another forum, in another country (through the ninth mountains in the tenth), in the lair of two fierce teams of pro-Russians and pro-Ukrainians (and I in the middle, challenging them, for a change), one of the most aggressive defenders of the narrative “glory Ukraine”, is a fierce opponent of cryptomania. And on the related topic of bitcoin, towards the end of May, I made a little joke with it:

He concluded by saying

“In crypto are always involved the greatest cheaters, and the greatest morons and pathetic people!”

I return:
“Absolutely!

Official crypto wallets, where you can transfer money to the army of Ukraine

Press center of the ministry March 4, 2022

Portfolio of the reserve fund for cryptocurrency of Ukraine, created by the Ukrainian cryptocurrency exchange:

BTC, ETH, USDT

Official wallet Apostille: Apostille

Project Apostille from Help for Ukraine: Apostille

DOGE Wallet

https://thedigital.gov.ua/news/ofitsiyni-kriptogamantsi-kudi-mozhna-perekazati-groshi-dlya-armii-ukraini

$ 53 million in cryptocurrencies raised to support Ukraine

Press center of the ministry

4 March 2022

“Since the beginning of Russia’s attack on Ukraine, the global crypto community has actively supported our country with cryptocurrency donations. As of 3 March 2022. more than $ 53 million has been raised in cryptocurrencies.

According to the research firm, this is the largest volume of cryptocurrencies in history. In particular, this was facilitated by our government’s rapid creation of official crypto wallets for transferring funds.

Most of the funds were directed to support the Ukrainian army, and the rest to humanitarian initiatives and general support for our country.

(www.)thedigital.gov.ua/news/na-pidtrimku-ukraini-zibrali-53-mln-u-kriptoaktivakh

The global crypto community has raised nearly $ 55 million for Ukraine

Press center of the ministry, 3 March 2022

thedigital.gov.ua/news/author/Прес-офіс%20Міністерства

Official cryptocurrency collection site launched in support of Ukraine

Press center of the ministry

14 March 2022

The ministry, together with the blockchain company Everstake and the cryptocurrency exchange FTX, has launched the official website Aid For Ukraine to raise funds in support of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and humanitarian aid programs.

As of today, the official portfolios of the Ministry of digital transformation have received $ 52 million in cryptocurrencies.

thedigital.gov.ua/news/zapustili-ofitsiyniy-vebsayt-dlya-zboru-kriptovalyuti-na-pidtrimku-ukraini

In summary, until today, March 14th Ukraine has received in cryptocurrencies a total:
55 million $ 3 March;
on March 4, there were 53 million;
by March 14, it had grown to 52 million.

Ukraine legalizes crypto sector – president signs profile law

Press center of the ministry

16 March 2022

Today, the president of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky signed the law of Ukraine “on virtual assets”, which was adopted by the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine on February 17.

Creates conditions for the launch of a legal market for virtual assets in Ukraine. The new market will be regulated by the National Securities and stock market Commission.

Signed law:

– determines the legal status, classification and ownership of virtual assets;

– appoints market regulators – National Bank of Ukraine and National Securities and stock market Commission;

– creates conditions for further formation of the legal field in the virtual asset market;

– determines the list of providers of virtual assets and the conditions for their registration;

– provides for the implementation of financial monitoring measures in the field of virtual assets.

The National Securities and stock market Commission:

– to form and implement state policy in the field of virtual assets;

– determines the order of turnover of virtual assets;

– issuing permissions to virtual asset service providers;

– to regulate, control and financially monitor this area.

So far, the Ministry of digital transformation has developed the legal field in this area. Together with industry representatives, we have developed a profile law. Currently, the Ministry of Finance is also actively working to amend the tax and Civil Code of Ukraine in order to fully launch the virtual asset market.

The signed law enters into force from the date of entry into force of the law of Ukraine amending and supplementing the tax code of Ukraine on the specifics of taxation of transactions with virtual assets.

The signing of this law by the president is another important step towards bringing the crypto sector out of the shadows and launching a legal market for virtual assets in Ukraine.

thedigital.gov.ua/news/ukraina-legalizuvala-kriptosektor-prezident-pidpisav-profilniy-zakon

“In crypto are always involved the greatest cheaters, and the greatest morons and pathetic people!”

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 28, 2022 1:57 PM

A couple of weeks ago I posted the following as something of a parody:

Vlad: So, Sergei, what shall we try this time?
Sergei: I think we should send in the tanks.
Vlad: Very good; tanks it is!

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But yesterday’s parody is today’s reality, so welcome to the “Dawn of the Eurasian Century”. It’s symbolised by . . . ?

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2022/08/26/all-the-way-to-odessa
All the Way to Odessa
Pepe Escobar
August 26, 2022

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 28, 2022 4:10 PM

It seems that the “Eurasian Century” has been in the pipeline for some time:

https://journal-neo.org/2016/10/04/the-eurasian-century-is-now-unstoppable-2
The Eurasian Century is Now Unstoppable
F. William Engdahl
04.10.2016

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/02/how-countries-can-find-their-place-in-the-new-eurasian-century
Eurasia, the supercontinent that will define our century
Feb 14, 2018
Bruno Maçães
Author, Belt and Road, The Dawn of Eurasia
Bruno Maçães’ book, The Dawn of Eurasia, was published in January

So does it die on the road to Odesa?

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Aug 30, 2022 8:29 AM

The “war” has been created by both “sides” (who are the same side) to further the shift eastward, build Eurasia and decimate US-Europe. Why do you keep promoting the idea there is some real conflict of interest here when there obviously isn’t.

Even if the “war” is being performed to the extent of actually killing real people in large numbers (no evidence of it, but I give the benefit of the doubt), it’s still just performative, a war without conflict, done by two sides for one reason.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 30, 2022 1:57 PM

There are more than two “sides”.

Primate_Supremo
Primate_Supremo
Aug 28, 2022 12:38 PM

Another writer with certainly a different range of analyses … https://les7eb.substack.com/p/ukraine-notes-the-long-proxy-war-67b

Not seen in the Mainstream Fakestream.

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Aug 30, 2022 8:35 AM

Very “alternative mainstream” view.

Mucho
Mucho
Aug 28, 2022 12:35 PM

Another great show from Brendon O Connell here, in which he gives further weight to his suspicion that one of the motivations for the Ukraine war – effectively being stage managed by the usual suspects who control both sides including Vlad of course who was installed by Kissinger and The Gang after they bumped off the true Russian nationalist leader in waiting Alexander Lebed – is about levelling the Ukraine so that it can be re-built as a SMART CITY dystopia. Brendon plays an official 4th Industrial Revolution video talking about Ukraine in 2030 – as a leading digital country in the SMART CITY model. This is also what they have done in parts of Iraq and other places in the Middle East – rebuilding the carnage they have created in the SMART CITY model. I wonder where the SMART CITY town planners will be taking their “development opportunities” to next……

Also takes a look the history of Soviet espionage and penetration of the US, how this has been going on for decades, and how in recent times this has been achieved via Soviet Israel.

150. Is General Millie A Soviet Spy? Ukraine As A UN Smart City

NickM
NickM
Aug 28, 2022 5:36 AM

Pepe Escobar says today: “All the Way to Odessa”.

“As it stands, what’s remarkable is how the Russian economy hardly broke a sweat to “end the abundance” of the wealthiest region on the planet [while strengthening its own economy and bringing down interest rates].

“Putin has abandoned his long-cherished notion of negotiating with “our partners” in Brussels because there’s nothing to negotiate. The puny puppet Eurocrats will only be hurled away from their zombified state when the dire socio-economic consequences their anti-Russian war will finally translate into peasants with pitchforks roaming the continent. It may be eons away, but inevitably the average Italian, German or Frenchman will connect the dots and realize it is their own “Leaders” – National Nullities and mostly Unelected Eurocrats – who are paving their road to poverty.

“You will be poor. And you will like it.

Because you in the West [UK, USA and France] are once again supporting Nazis: this time under the slogan of “freedom for Ukraine” — for Ukrainian neo-Nazis. That brings the concept of “multicultural Europe” down to a whole new level.

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Aug 28, 2022 9:09 AM
Reply to  NickM

“So, we are still puzzling over why so many of the alternative media are resolutely ignoring the last two and a half years in order to present the false narrative that Russia and China are opposing the Great Reset and globalism. 

We keep asking – get no answers. We keep inviting dialogue. No one wants to discuss it. 

We published an open letter a few weeks ago. No reply, though plenty of mumbling behind our backs. 

So, we say again – please explain your stance to us. 

Start by taking a long hard look at the facts.

No, don’t look away, or put your fingers in your ears, or make up some lame nonsense about how it might look like a globalist and quack like a globalist but actually it’s Che Guevara – 

LOOK. AT THE FACTS.

China is currently- right now – as we speak – promoting all the same GR/New Normal/Scamdemic/Climate Catastrophe BS as the West. 

Russia is currently – right now – as we speak – promoting all the same GR/New Normal/Scamdemic/Climate Catastrophe BS as the West. 

 Green fascism, forced vaccination, curtailed freedom, increased surveillance, vax certificates/passports, QR codes, bugs as food staples – 

these are currently and openly some primary goals of the powerful in both West AND East. 

Please take in this truth without gagging or throwing up. 

Internalize it. 

Whatever collisions or collusions of interests lie behind the (brilliantly-timed) war in Ukraine, there is zero evidence that opposing globalism constitutes any part of it, and much evidence to the complete and absolute contrary. 

It’s reassuring to believe in a crusade for the future of humanity. It feels good, after the massive isolation of the COVID trauma-fest, to think there’s a great big country and powerful people fighting your corner with you. 

— but it’s just NOT TRUE y’all. 

Because both sides are currently aiming at the same future for us all. 

And it’s not a good one. 

At best this war will determine which oligarchs control what regional sector for the next few decades.

At worst it’s just a distraction, a heat sink for your energy and attention, while the prison walls are constructed around us. 

Meanwhile the real war for humanity is going on elsewhere – in the same places it was before Ukraine so spectacularly burst into such distracting smoke and flames. 

And a lot of people currently busy taking sides and waving their chosen flags are being missed on the barricades. 

Guess we’ll just keep saying this at intervals until people start listening or the machine shuts us down.”

OG on their Telegram

plino
plino
Aug 31, 2022 4:55 AM

Well said. It doesn’t matter what they answer or whether they answer at all. Everyone is responsible for their own thoughts and words, and looking with only one eye has never helped anyone. Free will.

mariusmioc
mariusmioc
Aug 27, 2022 2:50 PM

Russia claimed it want to defend the rights of Russians from Ukraine. Now he is supressing the Ukrainian language in conquered teritories. https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-society/3489802-invaders-want-to-russify-all-schools-in-mariupol-denisova.html

Grigor
Grigor
Aug 27, 2022 3:43 PM
Reply to  mariusmioc

I think this is likely to prove as nonsense as the claims from the other side. The point is to create extreme opposites and get people to go to them and throw stones at each other. I think we should all say no to that

mariusmioc
mariusmioc
Aug 27, 2022 2:48 PM

Ukrainian language to be banned in Mariupol even during school breaks https://chytomo.com/en/ukrainian-language-to-be-banned-in-mariupol-even-during-school-breaks/

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Aug 27, 2022 3:09 PM
Reply to  mariusmioc

What Ukrainian language are you referring to exactly?

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 27, 2022 4:51 PM
Reply to  Berlin Beerman

Probably the one the SBU speaks.

William
William
Aug 27, 2022 2:28 PM
Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Aug 27, 2022 3:49 PM
Reply to  William

Oh fuck off. Yeah, the sanctions “backfired” just like the twin towers were attacked due to “blowback”. Mealy mouthed gatekeeper bullshit.

The sanctions were intended to do what they are doing, bring down western economies, pave the way for rationing, UBI, mass culls.

Western societies need to be cowed to the point they willingly abandon their traditions of freedom. Eastern societies can be spared a little since they are already cowed, especially in China and already accept restrictions that won’t go over here without some softening up.

Globalism is coming for us all, buddy.

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Aug 28, 2022 9:13 AM
Reply to  William

Did you not notice that crushing the western economy has been a stated plan of the oligarchy for the past three feckin years? Are you just dozing or are you paid to sell gatekeeper horse manure?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 27, 2022 2:24 PM

What Type of War?

There are several aspects to this question, but here I’ll focus on the physical conflict. What surprises me is that Putin walked into the same trap as the Soviets in Afghanistan of 1979. But it’s even more surprising that people still can’t see this as a trap; and they’re still wedded to the notion of refighting WWII.

There appears to be no single label for this type of war, but I’ll refer to the initial, trap phase of the conflict as the Brzezinski Playbook. The conflict has since progressed to other phases, and one of the key concepts which distinguish it from traditional thinking is that of “battlespace”.

It should be noted that the Putinista fifth-column didn’t wake up to the reality that Russia had fought the wrong war until AFTER the initial phase was largely over. But they don’t appear to have woken up to the reality that Russia is STILL fighting the wrong war!

https://libertarianinstitute.org/articles/brzezinskis-proxy-war-playbook
Brzezinski’s Proxy War Playbook
by Patrick Macfarlane
Jun 22, 2022

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlespace
Battlespace or battle-space is a term used to signify a unified military strategy to integrate and combine armed forces for the military theatre of operations, including air, information, land, sea, cyber and outer space to achieve military goals. It includes the environment, factors, and conditions that must be understood to successfully apply combat power, protect the force, or complete the mission. This includes enemy and friendly armed forces, infrastructure, weather, terrain, and the electromagnetic spectrum within the operational areas and areas of interest.

Another critical distinction, and one which I’ll explore below, is that between Quality and Quantity.

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Aug 27, 2022 3:21 PM

Your correct that there was a trap, perhaps even several however it was not Russia that stepped into it.

What your witnessing is something that was planned pretty well in advance. We just had to wait for the actors to get to the stage – the Western actors.

The fact remains that there remains a strong contingent of degenerates in the West that have been , well shall we say rather pissed off and then some, at Russia and specifically Mr.Putins constant outplaying their interests.

These radicals need to be irradiated and for that to happen, the EU needs to dissolve for a period of time and then re-invent itself. NATO will hopefully also implode as an option and what will be left is a well functioning multipolar world.

Sure there will be some sore losers but at least they now will not have free reign to cause damage to others. Identified and marked, we shall keep our any on them.

Russia did not set Ukraine as the stage for this to begin from, someone else did. Someone far more evil than you care to mention.

A few more perks to fall from this “conflict” will be a new monetary currency – digital no doubt and not backed from a central bank. There will be others but those depend on how much collateral damage the US and Uk want to cause.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 27, 2022 3:42 PM
Reply to  Berlin Beerman

Russia did not set Ukraine as the stage for this to begin from, someone else did. Someone far more evil than you care to mention.

For a couple of months now, I’ve been posting about the Khazarian agenda to relocate the high-tech part of Israel to southern Ukraine. Is that who you’re referring to?

NickM
NickM
Aug 28, 2022 5:55 AM
Reply to  Berlin Beerman

“the EU needs to dissolve for a period of time and then re-invent itself.”

Like Europe re-invented itself after playing at Fascism for 20 years with the active support of Britain and the U$A: “Herr Hitler, Signor Mussolini and General Franco are our bulwarks against Communism”. After Soviet Russia had broken the back of the Nazi Wehrmacht, de-Natzified Eastern Europe all the way from the Ukraina to Poland, and caused Hitler to blow his brains out because the Red Flag was flying over the Reichstag — after Russia had accomplished all this at the cost of “blood, sweat and tears” that Churchill never dreamed of, Europe re-invented itself on a more Socialist model. Those were ‘Les Trentes Annees Glorieuses” between 1945 and the Second Coming of the New World Order under Margaret Snatcher and Ronnie Raygun.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 27, 2022 4:13 PM

Quantity has a quality all its own!

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 27, 2022 4:47 PM

To join the many notable headlines from Murdoch’s trashcan “ Stick up your Punta”, “ Gotscha” “ It was the Sun Wot won it “ all from The Falklands war and just a sample of the lowlights from it.

The Scum is about as welcome as fart in a space suit in Scouseland !

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 27, 2022 6:36 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

It’s a video of an exploding ammo dump. If you prefer, here’s one with a different logo:

Ex-Marine
Ex-Marine
Aug 27, 2022 4:34 PM

Well, I’m not a philosopher so I’m sorry to say that reads like word salad to me. But I am ex-military, served two tours in Afghanistan and Iraq, was in Somalia too and other places we weren’t supposed to be. So here’s my perspective.

The war in Ukraine is about taking and holding territory, not about rooting out bad characters like in Afghanistan and later in Iraq.

So to seize and hold territory you need a LOTTA man power and hardware. And, if I read thru the start of this convo properly, you are making the opposite claim. No sir. You are incorrect. The pitched battles to take over territory will be intense and easy to see. There should be footage.

If the Ruskies are taking territory they are there in force and will be highly visible. And their equipment will be correctly tagged to identify units. They WILL NOT be painted with random Z’s which can be duplicated easily by enemy combatants seeking to encroach by stealth.

I saw State of the art Russian equipment recently. It is awesome in design and manufacture. Way better than ours. Those rust buckets we have been shown on TV as being the Ruskies in Ukraine – no sir! Whoever they are they are not the Russian army I have seen in operation.

Combined with the lack of tags I would say they are old decommissioned hardware painted up with makeshift ID for a war game or training exercise.

And if, as another person said, there were hundreds of dead a day then there will be literally thousands of men in battle to keep the fatality ratios ballpark realistic.

There should be records of the dead, funerals, tributes, caskets being sent home (HUNDREDS A DAY, man that is brutal numbers). There should be acres of chewed up fields and burned out towns and the sound of battle would be heard twenty miles away.

Do we got any of that here? I’m thinking no.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 27, 2022 4:54 PM
Reply to  Ex-Marine

Hey Ex, I was in Nam. We definitely should not have been there. You are full of edible crickets.
Got any bona fides to show?

Ex-Marine
Ex-Marine
Aug 27, 2022 6:00 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

If you were in Nam you can verify what I say about military hardware displaying unit ID. You know they wouldn’t send anything in to a war zone without it. Those Z’s mean decommissioned scrap or training equipment that has been given a temporary mark to show what group it’s in.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 28, 2022 9:03 AM
Reply to  Ex-Marine

Sorry for using Latin but it is readily used in this case. You can goog it …
So again, bona fides?

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Aug 28, 2022 9:16 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

Is he correct about official military hardware displaying unit ID? Because whoever he is if that’s true it’s kinda a big deal.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 27, 2022 5:01 PM
Reply to  Ex-Marine

The war in Ukraine is about taking and holding territory . . .

There are several different wars being fought. Russia is attempting to fight a traditional “take and hold territory” war. However, the initial response by Ukraine was largely a stay-behind operation (the Brzezinski Playbook); though augmented with drones and satellite communications. They’ve now mostly switched to precision guided artillery, which has much the same effect as stay-behind, but can be safely operated from well within Ukrainian held territory.

Ex-Marine
Ex-Marine
Aug 27, 2022 5:53 PM

I apologize but that makes no sense. If Russia was taking territory and Ukraine wasn’t defending that territory then the Ruskies would have mopped them up inside the Donbass (sp?) region in a week.

Regular armies don’t fight stay behind and you can’t hold territory that way. They would have yielded the territory and split into small fighting groups. This is not what has happened. And I have not seen anyone but you make such a claim, which just makes no military sense. On the contrary the Ukes have held territory with great success, which means they are there in force like the Ruskies. I have seen claims of fierce massed battles well as trench warfare, which again requires large amounts of manpower. All standard strategy.

The only strange thing about it to me is the absence of evidence this major confrontation is happening at all. I can’t understand that as it should be so damn obvious.

No, two strange things – those damn Z’s also make no sense and only fit with the hardware being decommissioned for scrap or training.

Added – you can’t hold territory with artillery either, however smart it is. You can only hold and keep territory with MEN.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 27, 2022 6:24 PM
Reply to  Ex-Marine

I have not seen anyone but you make such a claim, which just makes no military sense.

Brzezinski made that claim in 2014. He stated it very clearly that this will be the employed strategy. Read the article:

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/brzezinski-the-west-should-arm-ukraine
July 2, 2014
Brzezinski: The West Should Arm Ukraine
By Zbigniew Brzezinski

The reality and effectiveness of the Brzezinski playbook with regard to Ukraine has been validated both by the withdrawal of Russian forces from the Kyiv area; and with the belated recognition by the likes of Patrick Macfarlane.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 27, 2022 7:37 PM
Reply to  Ex-Marine

I have not seen anyone but you make such a claim, which just makes no military sense.

The Brzezinski strategy has recently been underlined by Mike Pompeo:

I last had the privilege of meeting with President Zelenskyy in January 2020. How different the world seemed then. But unlike the presidency that the Trump administration followed, America did not hesitate in supplying Ukraine with weapons, such as the Javelin, which broke the back of Russia’s armed advance to Ukraine’s capital.

Michael Pompeo: War, Ukraine, and a Global Alliance for Freedom
Jun 24, 2022
Hudson Institute

Putin’s war on Ukraine is a pivotal event in post-Cold War politics; this unjust war seeks to annihilate the existence of a free and independent country. What does this portend for world democracies? How does it impact America’s ongoing top strategic priority that centers on the existential threat from China? Why should a machinist in Wichita or a schoolteacher in Des Moines care about what happens in the Donbas? Hudson’s Distinguished Fellow, the 70th U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, will deliver a major speech to answer all these questions followed by a conversation with Distinguished Fellow Walter Russell Mead.

Transcript:
https://www.hudson.org/events/2122-virtual-event-war-ukraine-and-a-global-alliance-for-freedom62022

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 27, 2022 8:38 PM

That in no way supports the claims you made for the type of warfare being engaged in.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 27, 2022 8:59 PM

There are a few bits which Brzezinski gets wrong, such as placing too much emphasis on urban warfare – when the reality in Ukraine is more rural and semi-urban. Other than that, the position with the Trump-Pompeo policy is exactly the same.

Brzezinski (2014):

But what kind of weapons is important. And in my view, they should be weapons designed particularly to permit the Ukrainians to engage in effective urban warfare of resistance. There’s no point trying to arm the Ukrainians to take on the Russian army in the open field: thousands of tanks, an army organized for the application of overwhelming force. There is a history to be learned here from urban resistance in World War II and most recently in Chechnya, whose capital persisted for three months in house-to-house fighting. The point is, if the effort to invade was to be successful politically, it would have to incorporate taking the major cities. If the major cities, say Kharkiv, say Kiev, were to resist and street fighting became a necessity, it would be prolonged and costly. And the fact of the matter is—and this is where the timing of this whole crisis is important—Russia is not yet ready to undertake that kind of an effort. It will be too costly in blood, paralyzingly costly in finances. And would take a long time and create more and more international pressure.

Accordingly, I feel that we should make it clear to the Ukrainians that if they are determined to resist, as they say they are and seemingly they are trying to do so (albeit not very effectively), we will provide them with anti-tank weapons, hand-held anti-tank weapons, hand-held rockets—weapons capable for use in urban short range fighting.

Pompeo (June 2022):

I last had the privilege of meeting with President Zelenskyy in January 2020. How different the world seemed then. But unlike the presidency that the Trump administration followed, America did not hesitate in supplying Ukraine with weapons, such as the Javelin, which broke the back of Russia’s armed advance to Ukraine’s capital.

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Aug 28, 2022 9:16 AM

You could not be more obviously blowing smoke if you tried

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 28, 2022 7:00 PM

I had to look it up.

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/blowing+smoke

blow smoke mainly AMERICAN

If someone blows smoke they deliberately confuse or deceive you.

So in what ways am I attempting to confuse or deceive. Please be specific!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 28, 2022 7:13 PM
Reply to  Ex-Marine

I have not seen anyone but you make such a claim, which just makes no military sense.

https://sof.news/uw/resistance-operating-concept
SOCEUR and Resistance Operating Concept (ROC)
July 19, 2019
John Friberg

The U.S. Special Operations Command Europe has, working with NATO and other allies, developed the Resistance Operating Concept (ROC) that will contribute to deterring and resisting aggression in Eastern Europe. The ROC is a concept that will assist Nordic and Baltic countries to conduct ‘resistance operations’ in the event of an invasion or occupation by Russian military forces.

Unconventional Warfare (UW) is one of the 12 Army Special Operations Forces (ARSOF) core activities. (4) UW is also one of the five functions of irregular warfare (IW). The six core activities of UW include:

  • preparation of the battlefield
  • subversion
  • sabotage
  • personnel recovery
  • guerrilla warfare
  • intelligence operations

What is ROC? SOCEUR is working with Baltic, Nordic, and other partner nations to further develop coordination and refine concepts associated with partisan warfare, resistance movements, and unconventional warfare. . . . Resistance is framed by ROC as a national effort to regain sovereignty after an invasion and occupation by an aggressor nation. It is a whole-of-society effort encompassing a total resistance posture.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/27/politics/russia-ukraine-resistance-warfare/index.html
How Ukraine is using resistance warfare developed by the US to fight back against Russia
By Oren Liebermann, CNN
August 27, 2022

plino
plino
Aug 29, 2022 3:37 AM
Reply to  Ex-Marine

The only strange thing about it to me is the absence of evidence this major confrontation is happening at all. I can’t understand that as it should be so damn obvious.

No, two strange things – those damn Z’s also make no sense and only fit with the hardware being decommissioned for scrap or training.

Added – you can’t hold territory with artillery either, however smart it is. You can only hold and keep territory with MEN.

How do you explain these two mysteries? I know how the military in general thinks, I have relatives and friends who avoid making too bold-sounding assumptions that contradict their understanding and “without conclusive evidence,” for example. But still, since you point out these obvious irregularities to the official narrative yourself, Do you have any explanation for yourself that you could share? This is a forum, not an expert council or a court.

The official explanation from the Russian side is that it means “To victory”, which is their battle motto, written in Latin, looks like “Za pobedu”, as the Latin “Z” replaced the first letter in the motto -“З” in Cyrillic.

The question is, “why in Latin?”, with a possible answer: a marketing trick that will make it much easier for Western conservative/alternative audiences to adopt the symbol. If we go further, this perception of the symbol and its subsequent use will make it easier for users to express it, and therefore it will make them more visible to the tracking and registration authorities that deal with the categorization of the population’s biases. Just one example. (It would probably be more convenient for Western automated tools to recognize a Latin symbol.) This, of course, has to do with the toolkit to facilitate the control of speech on the internet as well as offline. Which for me is undoubtedly a goal, even clearly recognized from the highest level (but from there it is said that everything is for our own good).

In the hope that you don’t think I’m a maniacal theorist, I’m going to go a little further.:)

As you point out, the whole in thing.pomegranate. war stinks of irregularities, and it is very likely that this “Z” does not mean what the Russians explain, here are some other Russian words (written by me in Latin) starting with this letter (in its original Cyrillic):

zavershenie (completion); zanulenuy (zeroed); zlo (evil); zombi (zombie):);
zavet (the covenant);

:)But let’s just say it doesn’t really matter, except what you mentioned in this and another post below:

That and those Z markings spell out small scale war gaming and – I’m sorry – fraud to me.

And by adding your other observation:

Tell me this, are there war reporters traveling with the advancing army? Have you personally seen the aftermath of these villages being taken? Are there lists of the dead? Are there literally thousands of funerals for departed heroes every week?

All the video I have come across looks like honest to God training footage. Maybe a half dozen guys, no more, minimum damage that often looks staged and other stuff featuring maybe a couple tanks or armored vehicles that if I’m honest looks cgi.

we don’t see nothing big scale, and reflecting the reality of what taking territory looks like.

I’ve been in wars and I’ve watched coverage of other wars and this is the first war I’ve seen where there seems to be literally no film record, no frontline war reporting.

And given that the Western authorities and the media fully accept the official version of the war, What do you think is the goal? And who is actually involved in this”special operation”? Is it possible that it is something similar to what many of us are talking about here (the version is not one, but they have common ground), or do you think that it is exaggerated and is something more simple to explain?

NickM
NickM
Aug 28, 2022 7:35 AM

“Safely operated”?

NATZO spent 8 years (2014 to 2022) NATZOfying the Ukrainian Army, supplying it with heavy weapons and building up massive fortifications for its intended “ethnic cleansing” of the Donbass and its Russian-speaking “untermenschen”. It has taken only a very small part of the Russian Army plus its Donbass Allies to destroy most of these initial heavy defenses that NATZO built up in the Ukraine. And half of the new heavy weapons from Biden, Johnson, Macron and Stoltz have been destroyed within a month of their arrival.

It took only a very small part of the Russian Army plus allied Ukrainian militia to break Zelenski’s new present of lethal toys from NATZO and defeat the crack neo-Nazi Azov Battalion which Kolomoisky finances (same Ukrainian Oligarch as finances president Zelensky).

“I need more guns (and more money) before I ride off to my little old $50Million home in the West, and visit my aged parents in their little old $10Million cottage in Jerusalem” — Zelensky.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 28, 2022 12:42 PM
Reply to  NickM

the crack neo-Nazi Azov Battalion which Kolomoisky finances (same Ukrainian Oligarch as finances president Zelensky).

See my earlier post. Kolomoisky was a Kremlin asset – funded via Abramovich!

https://genius.com/Vladimir-putin-press-conference-on-the-situation-in-ukraine-annotated
Press conference on the situation in Ukraine
President Vladimir Putin of Russia takes questions from the Russian media on March 3, 2014, following Russian military action in Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula.
Released: March 4, 2014

For example, Mr Kolomoisky was appointed Governor of Dnepropetrovsk. This is a unique crook. He even managed to cheat our oligarch Roman Abramovich two or three years ago. Scammed him, as our intellectuals like to say. They signed some deal, Abramovich transferred several billion dollars, while this guy never delivered and pocketed the money. When I asked him [Abramovich]: “Why did you do it?” he said: “I never thought this was possible.” I do not know, by the way, if he ever got his money back and if the deal was closed. But this really did happen a couple of years ago. And now this crook is appointed Governor of Dnepropetrovsk. No wonder the people are dissatisfied. They were dissatisfied and will remain so if those who refer to themselves the legitimate authorities continue in the same fashion.

NickM
NickM
Aug 28, 2022 6:53 AM
Reply to  Ex-Marine

No, we see little of what you saw in Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and “other places we were not supposed to be”; because this is not Yankee “shock and awe” where the grunts have to apologize afterwards:

“Sorry, we bombed until there was nothing left to bomb”.

“Sorry, we had to destroy the place in order to save it”.

“Mission accomplished”.

Or, in Putin’s description of the U$ in action: “Like a pigeon playing chess. Struts around, knocks over the pieces, shits all over the board, and flies off declaring victory.”

The Russians play chess. The Yanks play PR.

Ex-Marine
Ex-Marine
Aug 28, 2022 8:36 AM
Reply to  NickM

Well, I appreciate what you say, but shock and awe aside if you got yourself a real war there has to be a place where the rubber hits the road.

You can’t play chess with massed infantry, armored vehicles and artillery. No disrespect but that’s hooey. If territory is changing hands then it’s being fought over and that needs a lot of men and hardware clashing head on which is never quiet or pretty. And I don’t seen any sign this is going on, do you?

If hundreds of many are paying with their lives every day that means literally thousands engaged in battle for the fatality ratio to make any type of sense.

You are going to BE AWARE of this going on. Shock and Awe aside there is going to be mass destruction of infrastructure. You just can’t fight over a town without in part destroying it. Can’t be done. Otherwise you can’t drive the occupiers out. They hole up, you pound them and gouge them until they say enough or they all succumb. There’s no other way of removing them. Which is why wars for territory are always bitter and bloody.

War reporters will be able to witness the massed fighting from miles away. It will be audible miles away. This day and age you will have civilian phone footage of the intense barrages, the streets burning, the fighting in the streets. And it will leave scars in churned up messed up fields, discarded equipment.

Tell me this, are there war reporters traveling with the advancing army? Have you personally seen the aftermath of these villages being taken? Are there lists of the dead? Are there literally thousands of funerals for departed heroes every week?

All the video I have come across looks like honest to God training footage. Maybe a half dozen guys, no more, minimum damage that often looks staged and other stuff featuring maybe a couple tanks or armored vehicles that if I’m honest looks cgi.

we don’t see nothing big scale, and reflecting the reality of what taking territory looks like.

I’ve been in wars and I’ve watched coverage of other wars and this is the first war I’ve seen where there seems to be literally no film record, no frontline war reporting.

That and those Z markings spell out small scale war gaming and – I’m sorry – fraud to me.

NickM
NickM
Aug 28, 2022 6:53 PM
Reply to  Ex-Marine

You Yanks haven’t changed since those far off glory days of carpet bombing Western Europe and dropping Fat Boy on Nagasaki:

“How do we solve military problems? We don’t solve them, we overwhelm them.” — US Officer, quoted in Readers Digest circa 1944.

“In bombers named for girls we burned
The cities we had learned about in school” — Randall Jarrel, US poet of WW2.

“Men, above all this war must make good television” — Apocryphal.

Ex-Marine
Ex-Marine
Aug 28, 2022 9:03 PM
Reply to  NickM

Do I take from this that you do not have a legitimate response to any of the items I detailed?

Thank you for your time sir.

NickM
NickM
Aug 29, 2022 7:20 AM
Reply to  Ex-Marine

“The average Yank is a man who, when you point to something beyond his blinkers, just stares at you and grunts, Huh??” — Randall Jarrel, U$ poet.

“None so deaf as those who will not hear” — The Good Book

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 29, 2022 6:31 PM
Reply to  NickM

Considering you completely failed to address a single point the man made and opted instead for completely gratuitous ad hom I think you are currently throwing stones inside a very glassy house.

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Aug 29, 2022 11:31 PM
Reply to  Ex-Marine

There is one point here that perhaps makes a difference and that is that the Ukrainian territory being taken is also full of “Ukrainians” that support the effect and hence you only need to thwart off some paramilitary degenerates that were infiltrating the region.

Its only recently that the US and UK have insisted that this conflict continue and now it appears the idea is to lob missiles at the territories much like terrorists do.

Zelenskyy has relegated his state to a terror state against the people he was supposed to protect… according to his electoral speeches back in the day.

He has had to eliminate the political opposition, remove high ranking officials that supposedly gave him headaches meaning they did not believe in his actions against his own people. Soon the facade of the actor will start to crumble away and his net worth as a martyr will appeal to his handlers more so.

Russia is not at war, at least not the ones you are accustomed to waging. There is no shock and awe here. There is no need. The reality is much different and I think your aware of it , you just can’t rationalize it well enough and that is no swipe at your intelligence.

If Russia was at war with Ukraine, then it would have been a totally different operation and that would have lasted a month at best.

mariusmioc
mariusmioc
Aug 27, 2022 1:11 PM

Permanent war is very good for global dictature. Orwell in „1984” explained this.

Dale
Dale
Aug 26, 2022 10:50 PM

I’m trying to wrap my head around Marko’s take …

Russia’s pace is glacial. Russia should have gotten this over quickly. And if Russia had gotten this over quickly Ukrainians would be more sympathetic towards Russia. But if Russia can’t mobilize more than 200k troops, how could it have gotten the war over quickly apart from flattening cities a la the US ? And how would Ukrainians have been more favorably disposed if their cities were flattened ?

Grigor
Grigor
Aug 27, 2022 9:15 AM
Reply to  Dale

I don’t think there is need to flatten cities in order to take significant territory from an army who, as said several months ago, is depleted by 50%! It is a miracle of delaying that Russia is still fighting in Donbas after it being said several times that all Donbas was taken. Even Donetsk is still being shelled! How have they not even taken enough territory to prevent this shelling? Was not the main objective to prevent civilian deaths? This is an increasingly strange war!

NickM
NickM
Aug 29, 2022 9:36 AM
Reply to  Grigor

‘This is an increasingly strange war!”

Putin does not call it a war. He calls it SMO (Special Military Operation) to de-NATZify Ukraine after the “cookie” coup by Biden and Nuland in 2014, which promoted a special neo-Natzi Azov battalion in the Ukrainian Army.

Russia has not even begun to fight a Real War such as WW2, when Russia de-Natzified East Europe from the Ukraina right up to East Berlin; and we hope that it will not be forced to do so. But Putin has clearly stated his objectives: No NATZO expansion east of Berlin. No NATZO nukes near Russia’s border.

The SMO is merely the first step toward reining in NATZO’s ruthless “drang nach Osten” (Eastern expansion).

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 29, 2022 9:47 AM
Reply to  NickM

Then what is the point? Why has Russia allegedly committed thousands of men to the “special operation” if it does not intend to fight a real war? Maybe if it began fighting a real war it could stop the Ukrainians shelling Donetsk and the nuclear power plant. Otherwise what exactly is this SMO about?

plino
plino
Aug 29, 2022 6:05 PM

Otherwise what exactly is this SMO about?

In my opinion, the abbreviation itself means:Special Mindcontrol Operation. At least it suits her better.:)

rubberheid
rubberheid
Aug 26, 2022 7:03 PM

mate? matey mate? 77th mate, queens intelligence mate.

or Ozoidz

but a cluster of mates, mate? wtf mate?

Ten-shun

Diva
Diva
Aug 27, 2022 12:11 AM
Reply to  rubberheid

What does this mean? I don’t understand

Badger Down
Badger Down
Aug 29, 2022 2:52 AM
Reply to  Diva

Misheard lyrics: Friday night: New York, New York. Friday night, oh yeah!

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Aug 26, 2022 6:29 PM

Oh dear Off-G what about banning the following contribution. I sure some your readership with the following:

Norman Finkelstein: Okay. On the question of the Ukraine, the thing that’s troubled me about the public conversation of the Ukraine or hysteria —it’s not even a conversation, it’s hysteria about the Ukraine— is the following: those who are not totally immersed in the mainstream propaganda, some of the people you’ve had on your program and people who are not especially of the left, they have no particular left-wing allegiance, like John Mearsheimer at University of Chicago, or before he passed away Stephen F. Cohen who predicted that if you keep up with this NATO expansion in the Ukraine, there’s going to be a war. He said that in Democracy Now in 2014, and he was right. And other people, Professor Chomsky. I would include in that group several others, and they’ll all say the following thing: Number one, the Russians were promised that there would be no NATO expansion to the East, that was the quid pro quo for the reunification of Germany after the decomposition of the Soviet Union. The Russians were promised that but the West 26/08/2022, 18:14 Norman Finkelstein: ”Russia has the historical right to invade Ukraine.” (updated with transcript)

Hmmm, Finkelstein is obviously a troll.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 26, 2022 7:30 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

We don’t ban people – not even outed trolls such as yourself. Your point, whatever it is, is therefore as meaningless as it is unintelligible.

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Aug 26, 2022 9:36 PM

We don’t ban people….?

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 26, 2022 5:55 PM
Thinktwice
Thinktwice
Aug 26, 2022 5:21 PM

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Thinktwice
Thinktwice
Aug 26, 2022 3:36 PM

Why Are So Many Young & Healthy People Across Country Dying?’
(because of high ‘vaccination’ rate)

‘Fit, healthy, in the peak of condition, and dead – and nothing to see here.’

Mark Steyn questions why young healthy people are dying across the UK.

https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1562529247826165760

Legless
Legless
Aug 26, 2022 3:12 PM

For admin info, this site is blocked in Austria as of today. Accessible with vpn though.

NickM
NickM
Aug 28, 2022 10:46 AM
Reply to  Legless

Revives my childhood memories of an Austrian who became chancellor, and his minister of information who said truth was whatever they made up. That idea did not end well for them.

Another dishonour for Austria, and another badge of honour for OffG.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Aug 26, 2022 2:36 PM

lot of red thumbs out there!

i’ve contributed some too. is the SMO just beyond common sense? is the UKR problem really so divisive? wtf?

or has OG been troll swamped?

?

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 26, 2022 3:09 PM
Reply to  rubberheid

The troll contingient seems pretty much the same as usual to me, but SMO generally has a lot to answer for these days…

rubberheid
rubberheid
Aug 26, 2022 6:50 PM
Reply to  wardropper

explain: polarity of sentiment? 77? arm chair generals? bitternet experts? dubious reportage? societal dystopia in an inverted world of lies and unknowns?…argh!!

i will grant slasquvat and anti-empire dude a but more slack henceforth – marko sounded like an insane anti-rus very early on… i think he lost the plot for a period..

Riley has always been bit more stand-offish but both do not trust/like the putin regime, it may seem … or at least enjoy bursting any westernoids delusion as to some Holy Rus Empire saving the world from Event Covid and prison-city WEF Lines….?

this blether wins marko a bit of respect back tbh, here was I thinking you’d went full traitor! : )

dem red tumbs still a concern. we all seem pretty much agreed on Donbass and NATO expansion a few months back….

noobs or tubes or worse?

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Aug 26, 2022 9:42 PM
Reply to  rubberheid

Putin is like the Trump thing.
Paid commentators then the real sick ones who do it for free.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Aug 26, 2022 11:16 PM

how bleak

YourPointBeing
YourPointBeing
Aug 26, 2022 2:21 PM

OT:
“But experts at energy consultancy Auxilione warned that the cap could double even from that record high by April next year, hitting £7,263.”

7+2+6+3 = 18
18 = 6+6+6 = 3×3 + 3×3

Repeat after me:
JUST
ANOTHER
COINCIDENCE

Lucius Licinius
Lucius Licinius
Aug 26, 2022 3:04 PM
Reply to  YourPointBeing

18 = 666 – 648; 648 => 6+4+8 = 18 wow
18 = 33 – 15; 15 => 1+5=6; 6×33=198; 1+9+8 =18 wow
Give us a break

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 26, 2022 3:10 PM
Reply to  YourPointBeing

Is “Auxilione” even a real name…?

I suggest:
JUST
ANOTHER
CRETIN

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Aug 26, 2022 1:18 PM

Someone asked, “What was Russia supposed to do?”
 
Same as they did for prev 8 years! There’s no evidence Ukraine was really going to join NATO. In fact internal NATO correspondence ruled that out. So that’s a non-starter reason. 

IF Ukraine was planning to roll into Donbass (pretty unlikely) Russia should have bolstered forward defenses with little green men (while keeping deniability) and waited for the assault and responded with quick and overwhelming force to shut it down. – in which case their actions would have been defensive and legitimate in international law – a factor previously very important to Russia but strangely abandoned at the start of this “war”.

In strategic terms Russia’s actions make no sense. Nor do the West’s. The whole thing only makes sense as a mutually agreed fake fight – maybe with collateral civilian damage.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 26, 2022 2:27 PM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

” Enough already with the Ukraine Dog and Pony Show. The Nazi Assassin Terrorist Outfit (NATO) needs to Go, NOW!”
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Along with ALL the other war racketeering anti-democratic corporate fascist imperialist agencies of exploitation, oppression, mass murder, terror, torture and Grand Theft.”

“To Hell With War!” To Hell With Corporate Fascism!”

5D
5D
Aug 27, 2022 5:18 AM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

Canadian Bacon – you stated “There’s no evidence Ukraine was really going to join NATO”.
However, they didnt need to formally join!
In Sept 2021, the US and Ujraine signed an agreement to form a “strategic defense partnership” (https://www.rt.com/russia/533633-military-cooperation-agreement-ukraine-washington/), ratified in Nov 2021 when Ukraine and USA signed the “U.S.-Ukraine Charter on Strategic Partnership” which included enhancing military/defense relationships.
See https://www.state.gov/u-s-ukraine-charter-on-strategic-partnership/

They began implementing this in Jan 2022, when Nato effectively brought Ukraine’s military forces into the NATO command/control structure with the “Memorandum of Agreement” which couched the move in terms of “working together on technology-related projects…(and)… share its knowledge of practices in developing capabilities in the Command, Control, Communications and Computers (C4) domain”. See https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_190906.htm, https://www.ncia.nato.int/about-us/newsroom/natoukraine-agreement-paves-the-way-for-further-technical-cooperation.html and https://en.defence-ua.com/events/nato_helps_to_improve_command_and_control_system_of_the_armed_forces_of_ukraine-2048.html).
These are pro-west sites,but you don’t need to be too bright to read between the lines of what the ‘cooperation’ was about.
Sadly, it appears independent reports about the nature of these agreements has disappeared down the internet memory hole.
It doesn’t take a lot of work to search for all the strategic cooperation between the US and Ukraine, with many military drills being ramped up throughout 2021. Recently, an ex president of Ukraine (Yuschenko?) publicly admitted that Ukraine only signed the Minsk accords as a way of stalling whilst it got ready to fight a war with Russia.

So, effectively, Ukraine didn’t need to formally join NATO, and this agreement suited NATO and the US because they were no longer obligated by article 4 to fight Russia on behalf of Ukraine in the event of an attack, leaving Ukraine open to being thrown under the bus if need be. All gain with little pain for NATO!

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 27, 2022 11:45 AM
Reply to  5D

An ex president of Ukraine (Yuschenko?) publicly admitted that Ukraine only signed the Minsk accords as a way of stalling whilst it got ready to fight a war with Russia = Petro Oleksijovyč Porošenko aka “Porky”.

PS Getting the Feeling that the SBU has be monitoring OG … anybody else?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 27, 2022 12:50 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Do you ever wonder why public figures feel forced to “admit” the things they “admit”? Like “leaks” these “admissions” tend to promote some specific agenda don’t they. In this case perhaps making sure both sides of this binary are adequately fed.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 27, 2022 1:02 PM

That’s OG’s beat, Sophie.
I was just trying to clarify the name 5D was looking for because, well, facts should at least be important.
How about a comment on SBU monitoring of the website?

Arthur
Arthur
Aug 27, 2022 11:40 AM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

If you recall events of February 2022, the Canadian truckers had succeeded in breaking the virus trance. While the Trudeau regime dismantled the protests, other protests were gathering pace in other countries, and truckers were regrouping. Then Russia invaded Ukraine and suddenly a new trance transfixed the 5 Eyes and their satellites.

Martillo
Martillo
Aug 26, 2022 1:14 PM

XYZ

Martillo
Martillo
Aug 26, 2022 1:06 PM

The good news is that the same NPCs for now waving their China made rump Ukropper flags are already triple covaid$ death squirted and boooooooooosted. (If not then please please hurry up before the simian poxx kicks in). The Nudelman Zelenksi Ukrop caper, like the covaid$ caper before it is an intelligence test. Those that failed the first invariably fail the second also.

You are the disea$€ and their covaid$ Ukrop caper the cure.

Z

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Aug 26, 2022 1:22 PM
Reply to  Martillo

Anyone wondering why those painted “Zs” were on those tanks and why it got adopted as a symbol in place of the usual Russian military badge?

Why would the professional Russian army resort to slapdash handpainted “Zs” to identify themselves?

And why is all the equipment we see so crappy and old?

These are just two questions the non-dozy and non-stupid should be asking

5D
5D
Aug 27, 2022 5:30 AM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

‘Z’ is easy to paint and served its purpose of identification. It is said that the US space program spent over a million dollars in the 1960s developing a pen to write in space – Russia just used a pencil. Different mindset to yours apparently. BTW, that crappy old equipment is decimating the poor Ukrainian conscripts, and their air defense, missile defense, war planes and artillery are more advanced than NATO’s old crap being recycled via Ukraine. Perhaps you should ask who is being dozy and stupid.

ex-Marine
ex-Marine
Aug 27, 2022 7:47 AM
Reply to  5D

Official military hardware has its own National and unit ID printed on it. The only reason to paint on a makeshift ID would be if the hardware had been decommissioned and had its tags removed.

In other words if it was no longer being officially operated by the Russian army, but had been passed on for scrap or handed on to a non-official outfit for – say – training films or exercises.

That would also explain why all the hardware is so substandard, old fashioned and in such poor condition. No way it was being operated by one of the best equipped armies in the world.

Grafter
Grafter
Aug 26, 2022 12:53 PM

A kindly intimation from the energy parasites. The main excuses ? ‘Coming out of the Pandemic’ and the War in Ukraine.

Energy prices are rising: the latest information and how we can help (SSE part of the OVO “family”)

Unfortunately, energy prices are rising for everyone and right now there are few, if any, energy deals that are meaningfully cheaper than standard variable tariffs protected by the price cap.

Renewable energy has come a long way recently, but the world still depends on fossil fuels like oil and gas. The price of these can rise and fall quickly. As the world came out of the pandemic last year, increasing demand for oil and gas started pushing up the global price of energy. In February, Russia’s invasion of Ukraine made a difficult situation even worse. 

Before 2022, Europe got more than a third of its gas from Russia, but this year, Russia has almost completely stopped selling gas to Europe. This means the price of energy across Europe is almost 10 times what it was a year ago.

We believe that cheaper renewable power is the future. But right now, there isn’t enough of it to stop the UK from relying on expensive gas and oil for power generation. This is made worse by the fact that the UK has a single price for all its electricity, renewable or fossil-fuel – so the price of electricity is tied to the rising price of gas.”

The knives are being sharpened so stand by for multi billion profits and widespread fuel poverty orchestrated by these charlatans.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Aug 26, 2022 1:51 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Perhaps this article will be of interest: >

Is Russia limiting gas flows to Europe?
Published: August 2022
Is Russia limiting gas flows to Europe? – Swiss Policy Research (swprs.org)

“Renewable” power is a misconception of how energy is created and utilized. It costs energy to create energy. There are no exceptions.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 26, 2022 12:42 PM

“ If Ukraine was planning to roll into the Donbass ( pretty unlikely)..”

https://scheerpost.com/2022/04/09/former-nato-military-analyst-blows-the-whistle-on-wests-ukraine-invasion-narrative/

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Aug 26, 2022 10:20 AM

Let’s cut to the chase. Russia will win. That’s because the Ukraine is even more corrupt than Russia.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Aug 26, 2022 11:42 AM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Hoping gallant little Ukraine wins are we? That land of those lovely people like Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukevyich – their statues all over this benighted land, lovingly adorned with flowers by the populace. But the real treat comes on 2 January, Bandera’s birthday, torchlight processions everywhere. And how about those lovely warriors from the Tornado Battalion, the Aidar Battalion, the Azov Regiment. This is probably the most reactionary state in Europe except those lovely people in the Baltics. That situation hasn’t changed.

The entire war was constructed by the American neo-cons, particularly Pyatt, and Nuland supported in the rear by Soros, (Open Society Foundation) the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) and various. Come the 2014 coup the march east by the Ukie army built up to be some 100,000 strong with a brief to roll over the Donbass which it had been shelling since 2014 and in doing wiped out some 14000 Russian-Ukrainians in the Donbass.

Now what was Putin and the Russians supposed to do exactly? Interesting answers only please

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 26, 2022 12:35 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Why are you responding to your own comment as if you were someone else?

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Aug 26, 2022 12:40 PM

Oops! Major troll malfunction!

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 26, 2022 12:47 PM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

Wonder if we’ll see It again … the troll, I mean.
Also wonder if they’ll dock It some pay?

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Aug 26, 2022 8:06 PM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

…”The Dudes are emerging…” 😉

Diva
Diva
Aug 26, 2022 2:43 PM

And why do people keep voting him up when he’s so blatantly trolling? Are they voting for both sides of his monologue? Are they just stupid? Don’t they even look at the name? Or is he being upvoted by his troll pals?

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 26, 2022 3:15 PM
Reply to  Diva

Many people are of course stupid, but this is just another piece of idiocy for us all to ignore.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Aug 26, 2022 6:07 PM

It was an afterthought. So? And BTW I didn’t think it was someone else.

rememberingmonkey
rememberingmonkey
Aug 26, 2022 7:07 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

So obvious. It’s also the only way you can continue when the characters run out.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 26, 2022 9:57 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

It is interesting that many many times in the past a number of posters have added after thoughts to their original post, yet, none to my knowledge have been accused of being a troll. Any thoughts to why there is a change in policy now.

Diva
Diva
Aug 27, 2022 12:16 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

Read the two posts! He was arguing with himself! Posting one opinion then responding by accusing himself of being pro-Ukraine. He forgot to change his ID before posting the reply.

Brianborou.
Brianborou.
Aug 27, 2022 6:44 AM
Reply to  Diva

You have not read what I posted. Many many times in the past people have posted to themselves and there was no complaints. But now there is a change in policy. Why ?

Grigor
Grigor
Aug 27, 2022 9:22 AM
Reply to  Brianborou.

No, I think it is you do not understand, the man was making one point of view in his first post and then the opposite point of view in his second post. No normal human will do that. His intent must have been to change his identity before second post, but it missed his mind.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 27, 2022 2:13 PM
Reply to  Grigor

To reiterate, many times in the past posters have posted to themselves and yes, they have sometimes argued from a dialectical point. However, there now seems to a different policy. So the question still stands. Why now?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 27, 2022 4:01 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

What are you talking about? A troll outed himself by forgetting to swap IDs before arguing with himself aggressively. I pointed this out.

Our “policy” remains as ever. You can read it on the relevant page. Please feel welcome to talk to yourself as much as you like, if that’s what you like to do. But if trolls are found trolling and assuming (or failing to assume!) multiple identities in order to seed faux conflicts, we will alert people.

I’m sure that won’t apply to you though.

brianborou
brianborou
Aug 27, 2022 4:24 PM

lets see, Donald Duck has posted many times over quite a long period of time so the question is has he impersonated himself or is someone impersonating his second post.

Nevertheless, as stated earlier people have responded to themselves without a peep out of admin in the past.

Lets hope we can see a consistency of policy to all posters whether people agree or disagree !

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Aug 27, 2022 6:17 PM
Reply to  brianborou

Donald Duck owned up to it so there’s no doubt it’s the same person. Whatever was really going on, in terms of consistency, if Admin spot someone adding an afterthought to an existing comment that’s one thing, but if Admin notices someone having a conversation with themselves in the way above then they may ask why. It’s at Admin’s discretion and, honestly, I think DD committed a bit of a booboo here and it’s right to acknowledge that and move on. So rather than bending over backwards to try to save face for them, let’s move on now. Thank you, A2

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Aug 28, 2022 9:30 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

So Brianboring is either troll mates with Donald or he is Donald, right? I mean who else is gonna care enough to still be beating this pathetic broken drum.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 28, 2022 7:40 PM

Keep taking the pills mate !

rememberingmonkey
rememberingmonkey
Aug 26, 2022 7:00 PM

I would difficult to reply ‘as if you were someone else’ when the name on both posts is identical.

rememberingmonkey
rememberingmonkey
Aug 26, 2022 7:04 PM

I just noticed that when I down voted your question, the little hand turned red. That does not happen when I down vote any other comment. I must have just been entered into the special database of the pre banned.

Diva
Diva
Aug 26, 2022 9:32 PM

Ah so, “remembering monkey” is another Donald Duck ID. And the red or green hand happens every time you vote – you shit stirring idiot.

plino
plino
Aug 26, 2022 10:35 PM
Reply to  Diva

I admit I once wrote a comment under the nickname “Casablanca.” I had just posted a long comment and it seemed too much to post another, double or triple as long soon after, so I used Casablanca. (Post with quotes from national strategies – “roadmap” – of Russia for the development of nanotechnology and neurotechnology, which, according to the “expectations” in the documents, will inevitably merge with people. Biodigital convergence.)
I haven’t done it again, but who knows (if you see it again, you’ll know it’s me).

Moreover, I consider myself a troll of God, and through my comments I am accumulating points for place in his kingdom. 😇 

Diva
Diva
Aug 27, 2022 12:17 AM
Reply to  plino

I think you are a wonderful contributor and I am glad to see you here!

plino
plino
Aug 27, 2022 6:27 AM
Reply to  Diva

Please don’t make me blush. Undeserved praise for my humble work as a layman. And I am glad to see you here

/ In fact, I was wrong, correction: the comment was about Putin and Hermann Graff’s wishes for the urgent introduction of AI into society, which they claim is inevitable. One to one transcribed from the statements of the WEF made before the “parting with the WEF”. As we can see, they continue in exactly the same direction after the “separation”./

Donald may not be a troll, but he may be using some authentic form of expression, or he may have simply, after watching a whole hour of no response to his comment, picked up emotion and discarded what he had collected in the second comment. Maybe he’s an honest believer. But what’s the use of thinking like a cyclops.
Without hope, it’s hard to live. And under these circumstances – especially aggravated during the two years-great fear and hopelessness accumulated, so that the need for the personification of hope grew unimaginably…
Donald won’t agree.:)

Grigor
Grigor
Aug 27, 2022 9:23 AM

Exactly! He forgot to change his name before replying with opposite point of view.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 27, 2022 1:05 PM

The question stands, nevertheless …

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Aug 26, 2022 2:24 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Whilst it may be germane to mention “American neo-cons”, the intentions were mutual to Ukrainian persons such as Ihor Kolomoyskyi and Victor Pinchuk. You may find the following article helpful. >

Jewish Subtexts in Ukraine – The Occidental Observer

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 26, 2022 6:12 PM

I only skimmed through the article, but found the following:

I still find it stunning that, when informed of Kolomoyskyi’s comment that he was a “schizophrenic shorty,” Putin didn’t reply that he was a crook for stealing from Ukrainians, Crimeans, or Russians, but that he was a crook who had “scammed Russian [Jewish] oligarch Roman Abramovich for billions of dollars.” In other words, much of what we are seeing here is not just grand geopolitics and clashing nationalisms, but a subtext of oligarchic feuds.

The source for this statement by Putin is as follows:

https://genius.com/Vladimir-putin-press-conference-on-the-situation-in-ukraine-annotated
Press conference on the situation in Ukraine
President Vladimir Putin of Russia takes questions from the Russian media on March 3, 2014, following Russian military action in Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula.
Released: March 4, 2014

For example, Mr Kolomoisky was appointed Governor of Dnepropetrovsk. This is a unique crook. He even managed to cheat our oligarch Roman Abramovich two or three years ago. Scammed him, as our intellectuals like to say. They signed some deal, Abramovich transferred several billion dollars, while this guy never delivered and pocketed the money. When I asked him [Abramovich]: “Why did you do it?” he said: “I never thought this was possible.” I do not know, by the way, if he ever got his money back and if the deal was closed. But this really did happen a couple of years ago. And now this crook is appointed Governor of Dnepropetrovsk. No wonder the people are dissatisfied. They were dissatisfied and will remain so if those who refer to themselves the legitimate authorities continue in the same fashion.

My Question

Is it believable that Abramovich was “scammed” out of several billions dollars? That he just transferred the money without any sort guarantee of delivery? Is any of that credible?

An alternative scenario is that the Kremlin funded Kolomoisky to create “Nazified” paramilitaries in order to build the justification for a Russian invasion. It was also to install a puppet as president who was supposed desert Kyiv as soon as the tanks started rolling in. In short, Kolomoisky was a Kremlin asset.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Aug 27, 2022 2:23 AM

It is extremely difficult to know what was taking place in this early situation. There are simply too many players in the game, and journalistic reporting has become bedtime story telling, rather than a reporting of actual events in real time. I think this comment is germane and carries some weight:

“In other words, much of what we are seeing here is not just grand geopolitics and clashing nationalisms, but a subtext of oligarchic feuds.”

The comment could be applied to Serbia, Hungary, Croatia, Greece, Portugal, or any Nation/States where ownership of lands (and resources) becomes contested. All wars are banker’s wars. And Bankers are simply the service agents of the wealthy classes…

Brianborou.
Brianborou.
Aug 27, 2022 8:49 AM

” Bankers are simply…” Not according to Professor Antony C Sutton.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Aug 27, 2022 2:19 PM
Reply to  Brianborou.

Many persons have speculated that. It’s all a club, and we’re not in it. Perhaps you will find this interesting. >

War Profiteers and Israel’s BankWar Profiteer Story: War Profiteers and Israel’s Bank

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 27, 2022 4:33 PM

Yes, I seen articles such as that before but Sutton goes into an extraordinary amount depth of detail with an enormous sum of evidence. Recommended you read his Trilogy of books concerning Wall Street. Here is a helping hand.

https://archive.org/details/WallStreetTheBolshevikRevolution

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Aug 26, 2022 9:06 PM

Andrew Joyce:

Eight years ago I wrote an essay on “Nationalists, Jews, and the Ukrainian Crisis,” during which I expressed some sympathy with historically-rooted Ukrainian nationalism but also accepted that the origins of the nation are contested and extremely complex.

No, the origins of modern Ukraine couldn’t be more straightforward. In 1991 they voted overwhelmingly for independence. That’s the will of the people of Ukraine. However, in Joyce’s TLDR article, he doesn’t even reference the independence vote.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Ukrainian_independence_referendum

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Aug 28, 2022 9:26 AM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Oh Jeez you are slavishly upvoting your pathetic troll comment to try to match the downvotes you’re getting. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🙂

You sad little shit stain, crouched there under your bridge with your fat troll nose stuck in your iPad, watching the down votes rack up, fuming that everyone thinks you’re a joke because you stupidly argued with yourself without changing your ID.

 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Martillo
Martillo
Aug 26, 2022 1:07 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Not to mention how entirely corrupt the angloZionaZi empire of shit actually is….nudge…nudge…wink…..snort….

Thinktwice
Thinktwice
Aug 26, 2022 10:18 AM

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv COVID “VACCINES” NEWS vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

News from Switzerland 

Supreme Court ruling
Hardly anyone noticed that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. won the case against all the pharmaceutical lobbyists. Covid vaccines are not vaccines. In the ruling, the Supreme Court confirms that the damage caused by Covid mRNA gene therapies is irreparable. As the Supreme Court is the highest court in the United States, there are no further appeals and the appeals have been exhausted. Robert F. Kennedy emphasised in an initial statement that this was a success that was only possible thanks to the international cooperation of a large number of lawyers and scientists. Of course, this judgment opens up something internationally, especially here in Switzerland, this judgment should make waves, because Switzerland has a special position here with its federal constitution. On the one hand, the Nuremberg Codex in the constitution with Article 118b, and the misuse of genetic engineering in humans is prohibited in Switzerland, according to Article 119 of the Federal Constitution. This is supplemented by Article 230bis of the Criminal Code, … Thus, the perpetrators risk up to 10 years in prison. But this judgment should also make the rest of the world sit up and take notice, because the Nuremberg Code is internationally valid and is also included in Article 7 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. In the case of criminal charges, the statement must include a reference to the Contergan scandal in order to give special weight to the importance of this charge. The policy is thus facing a hot autumn.

Source:

https://boersenwolf.blogspot.com/2022/08/supreme-court-urteil-bestatigt-covid.html https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f64f-1f3fb.svghttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f64f-1f3fb.svghttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f64f-1f3fb.svg no media is talking about it, neither in Switzerland nor in Europe. It’s up to us to spread the word https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f339.svghttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f339.svghttps://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f339.svg

in German:
Blogspot (https://boersenwolf.blogspot.com/2022/08/supreme-court-urteil-bestatigt-covid.html)
Supreme Court Urteil bestätigt: “Covid mRNA Gentherapien seien irreparabel”. Somit drohen Tätern zumindest bis 10 Jahren Haft.
Boersenwolf Nachrichten

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Martillo
Martillo
Aug 26, 2022 1:09 PM
Reply to  Thinktwice

Fake

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 26, 2022 2:44 PM
Reply to  Thinktwice

“We Came. We Saw. We Cull Juiced.”
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Corporate Fascism and Eugenics forever!”

MolecCodicies
MolecCodicies
Aug 27, 2022 6:26 AM
Reply to  Thinktwice

I’d like to believe that’s true but the source provided doesn’t provide any evidence. Don’t see any mention of it on the CHD website. I’d think if RFK Jr. won a supreme court case against the COVID injection it’d be mentioned there.

Zane
Zane
Aug 26, 2022 10:13 AM

5D chess master Putin walked right into the CIA trap called Ukraine. He better have a good plan B.

Hendrick Momsen
Hendrick Momsen
Aug 26, 2022 10:16 AM
Reply to  Zane

What if they play for the same team?
Asking for a friend…

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 26, 2022 12:52 PM

Thanks for helping out the quadriplegically handicapped, HM. You’re a hero!

Martillo
Martillo
Aug 26, 2022 1:09 PM
Reply to  Zane

That’s why he’s winning bigly.

Zane
Zane
Aug 26, 2022 10:45 PM
Reply to  Martillo

Really?

MolecCodicies
MolecCodicies
Aug 26, 2022 10:13 AM

I got the vibe that these guys were feeling pretty shy about speaking too harshly of Putin and Russia in the podcast format. They take a lot of heat for it in the western alt media circles so i guess that’s understandable.

I am familiar with Marko’s articles and they are actually quite scathingly critical of Putin’s decisions throughout the war. It is a very different take on the situation than we get from the western alt media. He is just as cynical about the Russian government as we are about our own.

Would’ve been cool to hear him lean more into those views in the interview, although he is not wrong to think that a wave of confused angry comments will follow if he does so.

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Aug 26, 2022 10:06 AM

Who is the guy who keeps saying ‘you-know’ Actually I don’t know!

Edwige
Edwige
Aug 26, 2022 9:25 AM

https://dumptheguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/aug/26/liz-truss-warmongering-dangerous-craving-theatre-conflict

You mean unlike the serial writings of the likes of Tisdall and Harding from the rag that pays your bills, Jenkins?

BTW their fake ‘concern’ about energy bills has reached nauseating levels. It’s all to push their side of the dialectic and will evaporate once that job is done (like the compatible left’s concern about wars disappears when it’s ‘their’ wars).

predictive
predictive
Aug 26, 2022 8:53 AM

Someone got there feelings hurt and now I am in pending prison.
grow up guardian number 2.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 26, 2022 3:17 PM
Reply to  predictive

their

In fact there are many aspects to ‘growing up’, and one of them is people knowing when they’re making a lot of mistakes.

It’s okay, I fixed it for you. No charge.

By the way, after a full stop, a capital letter is also required at the beginning of a new sentence.

So, what was in your ‘hurtful’ comment anyway?
I think there are only five totally risky words here, as I have learned through my own pending experience.

It’s really no big deal.

ElleonKen
ElleonKen
Aug 26, 2022 8:12 AM

How about you interview Matthew Ehret, or Brian Berlitic, or The Duran duo, or anyone who will challenge your very bias coverage!? Because all you do is remain in an echo chamber and interview those who will agree with your narrative on Russia. Doesn’t seem like journalism to me.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Aug 26, 2022 9:17 AM
Reply to  ElleonKen

Just recently Catte wrote an open letter to Vanessa Beeley that remains unanswered, to my knowledge. Just as with Covid and certain other issues, it is sometimes difficult to get people to engage from the opposition. But it isn’t for lack of trying.

Perhaps an echo chamber does exist but you’re mistaken about where it resides? 🤷‍♂️ A2

Donald Duck
Donald Duck
Aug 26, 2022 10:13 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

How would Catte like to go to Syria and do what Vanessa Beeley does? Hmmm, taking sides is so pure after all. War is a dirty business, if you don’t like getting dirty, stay on the sidelines.

SissyY
SissyY
Aug 26, 2022 10:30 AM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Quoting from Catte’s open letter..

“Dear Vanessa,
You became a dear friend during the two initial years of “covid” insanity, so I think – in fact I know – we completely agree about the need to face the common enemy in unity and not allow ourselves to be distracted.

But the question for me right now is – who is the “enemy”? Where are they? What are they?”

https://off-guardian.org/2022/08/09/covid-ukraine-the-real-enemy-an-open-letter-to-vanessa-beeley/

I think your indignation on Ms Beeley’s behalf is misplaced and stems from not reading the letter first…

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 26, 2022 12:56 PM
Reply to  SissyY

How did Catte become “dear friends” with Vanessa Beeley? I’m very curious because I’d like some of that too. Not so much with Catte as with Vanessa …

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Aug 26, 2022 1:11 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

You’re just getting creepy now Vic

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 27, 2022 1:32 PM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

Friendship, not the baco, CB

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Aug 26, 2022 1:10 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Hey – you’re the same troll caught arguing with yourself up top. Trying to set off fake fights is obviously your remit.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 26, 2022 3:30 PM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

Troll Hell consists of sitting in the middle of squillions of interesting people – all of whom are ignoring you totally…

Diva
Diva
Aug 26, 2022 2:55 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Why is this troll not banned? He outed himself by replying to his own comment and forgetting g to change his ID! I am sure he is upvoting his own troll comments! He needs to be banned. Free speech doesn’t extend to proven disrupters.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 26, 2022 3:56 PM
Reply to  Diva

Perhaps giving him enough rope to hang himself would be a good idea here…
Up to a point, of course. He is certainly showing strong tendencies to embarrass himself these days…

rememberingmonkey
rememberingmonkey
Aug 26, 2022 7:27 PM
Reply to  Diva

Replying to your own comment can clear up something you said after the editing window has closed……..

rememberingmonkey
rememberingmonkey
Aug 26, 2022 7:34 PM

In fact, I replied to my own comment above, noting that my downvote on the Admin’s question about another commenter’s replying to his own comment had earned me ‘the red hand’. I thought this was a sign that I had earned some special bad girl status, but lo! the red hand is appearing on all downvotes. Unless it is only showing on MY downvotes and the end is near.

Diva
Diva
Aug 27, 2022 12:22 AM

The red/green color shows in all up and down votes you paranoid idiot.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 26, 2022 6:32 PM
Reply to  Donald Duck

Here are the consequences for those with courage to speak out against the City of London/ US/ U.K./ NATO controlled Nazi Ukrainian dictatorship!

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/08/25/roger-waters-ukrainian-govt-hit-list/

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Aug 27, 2022 7:36 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

The “consequence” being that controlled op gatekeeper websites like Grayzone announce you to be on a “hit list”.

Grayzone pushed the covid lie and so did that sellout fake alternative pos Roger Waters. This only goes to show that both sides of this ludicrous shit show are 1%-controlled puppets

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 27, 2022 2:34 PM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

Let’s try again. U.K. Column on Friday highlighted the fact the Ukrainian Nazis, with the tacit approval of the City of London controlled Western governments, have published on a website the details of people they want to murder because they are speaking out about the situation plus atrocities being committed by them in the Ukraine.

Here it is at 1.04.23 into the program

https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/uk-column-news-26th-august-2022

It is always noticeable how weak an argument is when the person/ site/ organisation is attacked instead of addressing the content !

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 26, 2022 9:24 AM
Reply to  ElleonKen

Perhaps Gonzalo lira might be added to that list!

SissyY
SissyY
Aug 26, 2022 10:50 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

Has anyone gone to Lira’s website and asked him to interview Kit Knightly? It cuts both ways

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 26, 2022 11:41 AM
Reply to  SissyY

Have Gonzalo, Patrick Henningsen, Brian Berlitic, Duran duo ever been invited to show the other side of the coin ?

Perhaps if they were, there might be a reciprocal invitation?

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Aug 26, 2022 12:29 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

This podcast features two advocates of the binary. We have already hosted two open debates, in collaboration with Unlimited Hangout, in which Matt Ehret and others were featured. We published an open letter inviting further dialogue. So far there has been zero reciprocation or response.

We would love to see more dialogue, but the ball is in their court. Why not urge these guys to respond to us?

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 26, 2022 1:30 PM

Perhaps if you posted some from Gonzalo Lira discussing with Scott Ritter, Larry Johnson, Andrei Martyantov we might have a more rounded insight into what is happening in the City of London/ UK/ US/ NATO/ proxy war in the Ukraine.

Have you asked any of the above mentioned to write an article or post a video here?

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 26, 2022 3:03 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

Again, putting all the responsibility into OffG’s court…

This is a forum. Not an advice column from an agony-aunt.
There’s no need to assume that many of us have not dug into the sources you mention either.

I suggest you just get in line, present us with your own rounded insight, and let us all comment on it.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 26, 2022 5:23 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Since neither you or I have any control over the invitation of guest writers, exactly whose responsibility is it ?

“..Not an advice column from an agony – aunt” Really, I suggest you read some of the earliest articles from the beginning of the Special Military Operation to liberate the Ukraine from the City of London/ US/ U.K/ NATO controlled Nazi Ukrainian dictatorship.

“ There is no need to assume…” It appears to me there is an abundance of evidence to make that assumption judging from some of the comments posted on this blog alone.

“ I suggest you get in line. ..” As the Prisoner said to number 2 when he was asked his number “ I am not a number, I am a free man”

“ present us with your …” I posted numerous times on the subject of the war in the Ukraine.

Evidently, you have not read them. So to return the complement let’s see your rounded comment about the City of London/ US/ U.K./ NATO proxy war in the Ukrainian.

Please don’t employ a Harold Pinter soliloquy !

Canadian Bacon
Canadian Bacon
Aug 27, 2022 1:16 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

Why don’t you ask Beeley why she doesn’t respond to the open letter, or ask UK Column or Duran to invite OG on their show or suggest Ehret sends them an article. OG have invited discussion, it’s up to them to respond.

Brianborou.
Brianborou.
Aug 27, 2022 6:53 AM
Reply to  Canadian Bacon

Perhaps, if you read what I have written in my post and reply to admin instead of what you think I was writing, you would ask the question I asked.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 26, 2022 12:58 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

He’s a great advisor to those who live in the “Manosphere” and also has his own nostalgic take on Chile during the Pinochet period. Just what would you like to interview him on?

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 26, 2022 1:33 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Well, he is actually in Kharkov in the midst of the war talking place around him. Moreover, he had been arrested by the facist SBU gestapo so he might have more of inkling than those sitting in a nice secure environment don’t you think ?

MolecCodicies
MolecCodicies
Aug 27, 2022 7:09 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

Just being on the ground in the middle of a war zone doesn’t provide any special insight into the machinations of the actual political forces responsible for starting the war.

Thousands of soldiers fought in World War 1 and none of them deduced that Cecil Rhodes’ round table group was responsible for controlling all sides of the war from their first hand experiences in combat.

The decisions are made by low-profile deep politicians in smoke filled rooms, not by the soldiers fighting the war, nor even by the Presidents of the warring nations.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 27, 2022 1:06 PM
Reply to  MolecCodicies

Hmm, well, he has travelled throughout the Ukraine, he has experienced first hand the viciousness of the gestapo SBU, he has witnessed first hand the war in the Ukraine. In addition, he has eyes to see as well as ears to listen.

Moreover, he is contact with people on the ground in the Ukraine, besides people such as Scott Ritter ( former US army officer, former UN weapons inspector with decades of experience) , Andrei Martysnov ( former USSR navy officer who has written many well researched, well written books about the both the R.F military industrial complex as well as the US/ NATO military amongst other topics), Larry Johnson ( former CIA officer plus analyst who knows how the intelligence agencies work very well). Plus of course he is in contact with people such as Patrick Henningsen of 21st Century wire who has written and visited the Ukraine.

Now, you may recall it took many decades of dedicated research by people such as Professor Antony C Sutton, who by the worked for the institutes of the string pullers at, for example, the Hoover institute, and others.

But the common denominator amongst many of them is they had first hand experiences of the machinations of the string pullers.

Sitting in a nice secure safe environment will not lead to understanding what is taking place in the City of London/ US/ U.K./ NATO proxy war using the Nazi Ukrainian dictatorship against the Russian Federation.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 27, 2022 1:34 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

One sure thing is he knows how to spend 10 days with the SBU and waltz back to Kharkov (lol). Now there’s a topic for an interview!

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 27, 2022 2:40 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Hmm, so you have inside information as to what took place between Gonzalo and the SBU gestapo?

Or is it insinuation your only line of retort ?

Now, if you would like to address the WHOLE CONTENT of my post, I will give it my undivided attention.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 27, 2022 5:04 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

So how many days did he actually spend with the SBU? I could be wrong but I believe it was ten. Do you have his account of his detention? I’m very interested. Please share. I’m perfectly willing to click on .ukraine links to get to the truth.
How many people have spent as many days as GL has with Ukraine Intelligence and walked? No insinuation, just curiosity.
I’m sure you are a fine fellow and I’d love to have your undivided attention but I’m a bit prejudiced against folks who use ALL CAPS.
What do you suggest?

Brianborou
Brianborou
Aug 27, 2022 5:14 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

You may note I said “ do you have inside information..”

You may ask “ ..how many have walked ..”. I have no idea do you have inside information “ Remembering of course he has US citizenship.

Yes, I see you are unable to respond to the total content of my previous post so retort with a vacuous inane comment instead. Eh !

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
Aug 26, 2022 9:26 AM
Reply to  ElleonKen

you didn’t listen to the interview, the blokes being interviewed are both pro-Russian! 🤣

jiin
jiin
Aug 26, 2022 9:40 AM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

+10

Pavol
Pavol
Aug 26, 2022 2:27 PM
Reply to  ElleonKen

That’s not true. Off-guardian did interview Matthew Ehret not too long ago.

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 26, 2022 3:37 PM
Reply to  ElleonKen

The word is an adjective, “biased”, as in, “This is a biased person”.

On the other hand, “bias” is a noun, indicating the thing of which the biased person is guilty.

Now, please tell us the truth about Russia, Noelle. We didn’t realize we knew so little.

rik myers
rik myers
Aug 26, 2022 6:32 AM

thsi was a complete waste of time. started out with torfalse claim about Gonzalo etc. ended on nonsense about Ukraine citizens loving their governemnt and being glad to be foreced into the army.. anyone in russia who isn’t a patriot these days is a fool. all nazis forced into combat and many drafted into vietnam did not support their country and feel proud to wave their flag duting or after the war. –

Zane
Zane
Aug 26, 2022 5:47 AM

This war has CIA fingerprints all over it.

Antonym
Antonym
Aug 26, 2022 7:40 AM
Reply to  Zane

From 2014 get go with its Kyiv Maidan and MH17 ops, with assist of MI6.

Chinese slavish labor was too valuable as general US/K profit center so Russia it was to up their military hardware stocks.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 26, 2022 1:00 PM
Reply to  Zane

Yeah, those gooey shit smears …

wardropper
wardropper
Aug 26, 2022 4:00 PM
Reply to  Zane

…and a lot of other fingerprints too.

It has, as a result, become an unintelligible mess – undoubtedly the intention.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Aug 26, 2022 4:48 AM

What’s going on in Ukraine? I recall a saying, “all wars are bankers wars”. Whether it’s as simple as that is debatable, but in the end, it’s about power and greed. People like Zelensky, Putin, and Biden are simple humans, this isn’t that complicated. Some humans are trying to gain control of other humans for greed and power, same as it’s ever been. What was that song? “Same as it’s ever been”. At this point in my life, I have to ask, what is the fucking difference what is going on in Ukraine? The task at hand for people like me (us?) is set. It doesn’t matter what the details of the current whatever are, we need a fucking revolution. If it isn’t Ukraine, it’s just something else. Like, hey, the Great Reset is still on, ya know.

Anne
Anne
Aug 26, 2022 2:23 AM

Stop thinking the great reset is normal it’s only normal in the mindset of the evil ones.Keep believing all is the same before convid they are trying to change your mind thoughts soul into something unimaginable.you are you and you are a beautiful intelligent unique being.

plino
plino
Aug 26, 2022 5:40 AM
Reply to  Anne

you are a beautiful intelligent unique being

Speak for yourself. I’m ugly and stupid. (But I’m not going to genetically modify myself voluntarily.)

A great reset is not normal and it’s not nice, but those who put a dislike to my previous comment deserve to be reset. There are only seven, and if we nullify them, the planet will only win. I don’t like them.

jimbojames
jimbojames
Aug 26, 2022 9:29 AM
Reply to  plino

And, for starters, you are NOT unique.

jiin
jiin
Aug 26, 2022 9:25 AM
Reply to  Anne

The Old Normal was mental also.

plino
plino
Aug 26, 2022 5:13 PM
Reply to  Anne

Annie, I apologize for the stupid joke, I couldn’t help myself. I didn’t mean to belittle your comment in any way. In fact, I agree with him and I take what he’s talking about very seriously. Now I see my comment as an attempt at mockery, which was not his purpose. Again, I apologize if I offended you in any way.

plino
plino
Aug 26, 2022 5:21 PM
Reply to  plino

I meant Anne. I got the name wrong; it’s getting worse, it’s time for me to stop… 😐 

Zane
Zane
Aug 26, 2022 12:57 AM

OT, Justin Trudeau in Canada has set up a Climate Gestapo to enforce environmental compliance.

Terror. Covid. Climate. It never ends, does it.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Aug 26, 2022 1:58 AM
Reply to  Zane

“The longer Nazi Boy and the Reich remain…
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… the worse it is going to get for the people of Canada.”

Anne
Anne
Aug 26, 2022 2:23 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

👍

jiin
jiin
Aug 26, 2022 9:36 AM
Reply to  Zane

In Netherlands and U.K the council officials routinely and unannounced without a appointment visit business;s and do spot checks.
In the U.K the censur / council tax / electoral roll check will routinely and unannounced without a appointment visit homes to check your the named person living there.

This alt media crap

Justin Trudeau in Canada has set up a Climate Gestapo to enforce environmental compliance.

Its has been happening already for years.

Go put the wrong recycling bins out or food in the wrong bins as a business and then see what happens when this is done 3 times in a row.

Your get a visit from the environmental health officers and this has been happening for the last 20 years+

Wake up stop being played by M.I.C alt media.

Zane
Zane
Aug 26, 2022 12:52 AM

Forget Zelensky. The war ends when Steven Spielberg walks onto the set and shouts ” Cut! ”

Jokes aside, interestingly both Ukrainian and Russian geologists believe there are deep oil deposits in eastern Ukraine. Since most wars the US gets involved in are about oil, watch this space.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Aug 26, 2022 6:45 AM
Reply to  Zane

The Black Sea is also supposed to be a potential gas field.

Zane
Zane
Aug 26, 2022 10:21 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Where there’s oil, there’s gas.

Edwige
Edwige
Aug 26, 2022 8:55 AM
Reply to  Zane

“Since most wars the US gets involved in are about oil”

Propaganda that’s been inserted into left conservations to soften people up for the transition into renewables.

Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia…. where was the oil?

entitled2
entitled2
Aug 26, 2022 9:51 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Korea, Vietnam, Yugoslavia…. where was the oil?

Oil – limits the mindset.

Lithium, Gold, Silver, Copper, Rhodium, etc etc etc

worth 100 /1000 x more than oil.

Zane
Zane
Aug 26, 2022 10:19 AM
Reply to  entitled2

Controlling oil means full-spectrum global dominance.

No oil, no working military. Good luck with your lithium fighter jet.

jiin
jiin
Aug 26, 2022 12:21 PM
Reply to  Zane

No oil, no working military LOL

Questions what colour is oil?
.
And how is oil processed so it becomes this oil…?

Oil is relatively new, Gold, Silver, Copper, iron. Diamonds slavery etc been running the world a little bit longer than oil.

Same lot in control.
They dont use oil for there super jets super boats underground magnetic trains.
Stealth will not be using Castral GTX.

Wakey wakey…

Zane
Zane
Aug 26, 2022 10:47 PM
Reply to  jiin

Don’t display your ignorance.

Zane
Zane
Aug 26, 2022 10:17 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Iraq, Libya, Syria, ” South ” Sudan….

Coming attractions: Chechnya, Kazakhstan, Venezuela

Sheesh. Even the CIA needs to take a breather sometime.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Aug 26, 2022 2:45 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Hello Edwige: Oil fields were located in the Tonkin Gulf by French geologists’ decades before the Vietnam slaughter. Turns out the crude is heavy crude and extraction, and refining cost was prohibitive. Better to do an “easier deal” and continue buying Saudi lite crude, or perhaps steal more oil from Libya, Iraq, Syria, etc…

Ray
Ray
Aug 26, 2022 12:19 AM

Wow Riley your friends are clueless. Putin is an oligarch loyal only to decentralized empire. Nation States are 20th century.

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
Aug 26, 2022 12:51 AM
Reply to  Ray

A “multi-polar world” does not an empire make.

Zane
Zane
Aug 26, 2022 5:49 AM
Reply to  Ernest Judd

Multipolar means the Rockefellers on one end and the Rothschilds at the other, with Wall Street and the CIA in between.

entitled2
entitled2
Aug 26, 2022 9:52 AM
Reply to  Zane

 🔥 

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
Aug 26, 2022 7:10 AM
Reply to  Ernest Judd

Whatever you call it it’s being set up by WEF, WHO and the bankster class. They WANT “multipolarity” and are pushing for it.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Aug 27, 2022 1:38 PM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

Klaus Schlob and all his young leaders are all over multipolarism. In fact, they invented it. Believe it and get with it!

plino
plino
Aug 25, 2022 9:01 PM

It is true that I exaggerated the amount of comments, but I still want to add just one more congratulations on the Independence Day of Ukraine, to praise them, trying to highlight some of their uniqueness.

The Menorah Center is here in Dnieper.
“Menorah” is a unique structure and the largest Jewish complex in the world, which has no analogues in the world. This project reflects the past, present and future of Jewish life in Dnieper.”
“donated to the Dnipropetrovsk Jewish community by Gennady Bogolyubov and the president of the United Jewish community of Ukraine Igor Kolomoisky”.

A living example that when good people with great ideas come together, wonderful things come true. Look at this beautiful center.
https://menorah-center.com/about/

Congratulations on Independence Day and the wonderful song from the roof of the Menorah Center. (Among other things in the song, they sing that Ukraine was their land.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWUzPXMUAFg

Khazarkraine is a territory with a great history.
Make Khazarkraine Great Again (2022-2030)

Ernest Judd
Ernest Judd
Aug 26, 2022 12:53 AM
Reply to  plino

Israel views Ukraine as the “re-birth” of Khazaria.
Or the default location when the shitty little country of anti-Semites self-destructs.

plino
plino
Aug 26, 2022 6:00 AM
Reply to  Ernest Judd

Yes, but also Comrade Vladimir with mother Shalomova starred in the film the destruction and cleansing before build back better the old khaganate, Ernest. I read that you don’t see the Russian bear dance to the tune of WEF, but that may be because he looks like a typical Russian kazachok. But it’s not. You may not want to, but take a closer look at the bear’s movements in its den. It’s not a kazachok.;)

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Aug 26, 2022 6:54 AM
Reply to  Ernest Judd

I thought that Israel’s original interests were in Georgia. You’ll recall a small war that was set up some years ago to reclaim some enclaves left over from the USSR. I recall pictures of ‘our boys’ off to fight the Russians. As it happened it didn’t turn out that well.

Ukraine would be a tougher nut to crack. We in the West don’t appreciate just how big the place is (placed on the US it would stretch from St. Louis to Boston — Its BIG) or how diverse it is. Its been peddling a nationalist identity since 1991 and especially since 2014 but however you dice or slice it you’ve got a rift down the middle between the Catholic (Polish/Hungarian) West and the Orthodox (Russian) east. Its been there through history. Minsk was a reflection of reality and is likely to be implemented one way or another — instead of Ukraine being a federation it will end up partitioned.

rik myers
rik myers
Aug 26, 2022 6:35 AM
Reply to  plino

Ukraine is run by anti jewish hating NAZIS wake up. and Kolomoisky was corrupt scumbag who woudl throw anyone who stop his robbing of Ukraien & it’s resources under the bus.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Aug 25, 2022 8:34 PM

The masses are given TV ‘news’

The others use the World for their temporal entertainment…

That’s why they call it the Theatre of War.

“If my sons did not want wars, there would be none…”Gutle Schnaper Rothschild

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Aug 25, 2022 10:03 PM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

Here we are now, entertain us
Pretty obvious 31 years ago
before internet
snuck through ?
or future mock
(I got ‘Bleach’ when it came out, where’s my prize ?)