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9/11: 21st Anniversary Events

This weekend marks the twenty-first anniversary of 9/11, and there is a crowded calendar of new research, documentaries and presentations keeping the quest for truth and justice alive.

1. On Friday, September 9, Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth will host “Forbidden Truth: 9/11 Science at 21 Years”.

An online symposium about the state of scientific inquiry into the destruction of the three World Trade Center Towers. Details are at AE911truth.org. Time: 8:00 to 11:00 pm Eastern

2. On Saturday, September 10, the Europe 9/11 Group led is holding a live 12-hour in-person event in Utrecht, the Netherlands.

The event will also be livestreamed beginning at 10 am Central European Time and ending at 10pm (just in time to begin watching number 3, below). For details click here

Click here for details (in Dutch). [Some of the presentations are in English including that of Catherine Austin Fitts.]

3. On Saturday, September 10, The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry presents their “9/11 Symposium 2022: Exciting Legal Developments.”

For Speakers and details, see The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry. Register at the REGISTER NOW button to get the Zoom link that morning. [Time: 1:00 pm Pacific, 2:00 pm Mountain, 3:00 pm Central, 4:00 pm Eastern, 9:00 pm London, 10:00 pm EU]

4. On Sunday, September 11, Richard Gage will host a 9/11 Truth Film Festival. For films and Speakers see RichardGage911.org. [Times: 10:00 am Pacific, 11:00 pm Mountain, 12:00 pm Central, 1:00 pm Eastern, 6:00 pm London, 7:00 pm Geneva, 1700 GMT]

5. On Monday, September 12, The Northern California 9/11 Truth Alliance will hold an in-person (not online) film festival titled “Why 9/11 Truth Still Matters.”

The selected films will examine the War on Terror based on the pretext of 9/11. Details at sf911truth.org.

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Tavvy
Tavvy
Sep 11, 2022 12:48 PM

As I have pointed out on the other 9/11-related article, there is some impeccable research missing from the conversation, namely that of Dr Judy Wood. Her book on the subject is available from http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/. Z-library also hosts copies. A documentary based on the research in the book, Irrefutable, is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlkZLlzOfVQ

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 11, 2022 5:02 AM

Questions

All the WTC buildings (WTCs 1-7) came down eventually if not on the day, with a number of them at least showing severe damage seemingly due to the destruction of the WTCs 1 and 2. Presumably, as we hear of no death and injury in the other WTC buildings they were empty before WTCs 1 and 2 came down.

WTC-5
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WTC-6
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1. When were the other severely damaged WTC buildings evacuated?

2. If they evacuated those buildings to avoid death and injury why didn’t they also evacuate 1 and 2? Do you think they didn’t evacuate 1 and 2 because they needed real death and injury to persuade us of it?

3. How did they involve all the agency personnel in this operation without them knowing that the buildings came down by controlled demolition and that WTCs 1 and 2 were selectively unevacuated assuming the other WTC buildings were evacuated?

Derek
Derek
Sep 11, 2022 2:25 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

1. When were the other severely damaged WTC buildings evacuated?

WTC1
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc1.html

Evacuation and RescueThe evacuation of the North Tower proceeded efficiently from the time it was hit, via the three stairways. The elevators were all knocked out. The 102 minutes between the impact and collapse allowed the vast majority of its occupants below the crash zone to escape to safety.
No one on the 91st floor or above is believed to have survived. The New York Times estimated that 1,344 of the people in this zone perished. It is not clear how many remained alive until the collapse, but many parts of the upper floors filled with toxic smoke long before. In many cases people broke windows for fresh air. In one of the most horrifying spectacles of the attack, at least 37 and perhaps twice that number of people jumped to their deaths, apparently to escape agonizing deaths from smoke inhalation. 1  
The light northerly wind kept the north corner of the roof clear of smoke, and helicopter rescue should have been possible. However the Port Authority had all the doors to the roof of the tower locked shut, despite the fact that helicopter pilots rescued 28 people from the tower’s roof during the 1993 bombing. 2  
At 10:07 a police helicopter radioed a warning for firefighters to evacuate the North Tower because the South Tower had just collapsed. Unfortunately most of the firefighters’ radios did not work inside the towers, and few heard that or other orders to evacuate. 121 FDNY firefighters were killed when the North Tower collapsed. 3  

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc2.html

WTC2
Evacuation of the South Tower started after the 8:46 jet collision with the North Tower. Since the elevators were still working fully between 8:46 and 9:03, evacuation proceeded more efficiently than in the North Tower. However there was confusion, such as that caused by the announcements over the PA system saying that the building was secure and people could return to their offices. Heeding that advice might have cost the lives of hundreds of people. 2  
When the jet hit the South Tower, it cut off several routes of evacuating the 30 floors above the impact zone. It did leave at least one of the stairwells passable, and the New York Times found at least 18 people who escaped through that stairwell. Most people above the crash zone were not aware of the escape route, and at least 200 climbed toward the roof in hopes of being rescued there, only to find the doors to the roof locked. No one had told them that roof top rescue, which had been used in the 1993 bombing, was no longer an option. 3  

All the buildings are mentioned in the article.

2. If they evacuated those buildings to avoid death and injury why didn’t they also evacuate 1 and 2? Do you think they didn’t evacuate 1 and 2 because they needed real death and injury to persuade us of it?

They did and were – read the above.

Do you think they didn’t evacuate 1 and 2 because they needed real death and injury to persuade us of it?

??????????
Hmmmmm
That’s right nobody would have died otherwise you see – even in those planes – James Fetzer, Gordon Duff and Alex Jones (etc) would have smelled a rat so they deliberately didn’t evacuate to create real death and injury because we would not be convinced otherwise. I mean everybody would have got out unscathed wouldn’t they? 😉 

Sorry Petra don’t take the last bit personally i just couldn’t resist.

http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html

https://911review.com/report.html

Will answer all your questions just avoid Alex Jones and his loose change.

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Sep 11, 2022 4:06 AM

Once the oligarchs pulled off the JFK murder in broad daylight and their media mind control apparatus spun the narratives about a lone gunman and the single bullet theory, they became more brazen and emboldened. The stage was set for even more preposterous tales like the communist takeover “domino theory” in Southeast Asia, the Nixon Watergate coup d’eta, Ronald Reagans “trickle down economics” and Iran Contra, G. H.W. Bu$h’s reasons to arrest Manuel Noriega, Clinton’s destruction of Yugoslavia and the blue stained dress, W’s 9-11, everything about Obama and Trump, the lies about COVID being the new plague and lastly, the hilarious notion a senile warmongering, career grifter like Joe Biden who campaigned mostly from his home basement actually won the 2020 presidential election! There are more but these a ample examples.
As absurd as all this seems, there are millions of Americans who fell for that okey-doke who will fall for even more BS and flim-flam in the coming months.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 11, 2022 1:41 AM

For a big psyop such as 9/11 and especially one where the narrative completely contradicts reality we know for certain that there will be a propaganda campaign targeted to the anticipated disbelievers of the story.

However, that propaganda campaign is not identified by prominent truth organisations such as A&E for 9/11 Truth or the 9/11 Consensus panel, it is completely ignored.

Now why would that be?

What is the evidence of that campaign and how does it aim to influence the disbelievers’ minds?

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Sep 10, 2022 1:22 PM

The only sure thing about this and other false flags is that we, the people, will never get to the truth until all the most senior people involved have passed on to their place in hell.

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Sep 10, 2022 5:29 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

Who is left from JFK’s murder and still waiting.

Something’s are so big the PTB will never allow truth to be known.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 10, 2022 6:51 PM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

Exactly. The universe is big. Like really really big. So big that they’ll never allow the truth to be known.
(PS: It’s actually really really small).

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Sep 11, 2022 9:26 AM
Reply to  Seansaighdeor

Perhaps all those involved are not quite gone? There are also the political careers of their offspring to protect. I’m sure if the US citizen knew of the crimes of pappa bush whilst in office, his idiot son wouldn’t have become president.

Sheila
Sheila
Sep 10, 2022 11:30 AM

FYI: James Corbett documentary: 
False Flags: A Secret History Of Al Qaeda

Part 1 False Flags: A Secret History Of Al Qaeda: Origin Story
https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/secret-history-alqaeda-1:5

Part 2 False Flags: A Secret History Of Al Qaeda: 9/11
https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/secret-history-alqaeda-2:6

THE FINAL PART 3 WILL PREMIERE ON 9/11 
a watch-along with Q&A with TLAV, Corbett and Broc West
… with the final debut airing on September 11th, 2022 at 7pm CDT on The Last American Vagabond (no link yet – secret!)

Check on the day: TLAV on Odysee https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5 and 
James Corbett on https://www.corbettreport.com/

NikkiBop
NikkiBop
Sep 10, 2022 3:21 PM
Reply to  Sheila

Thanks for posting this!!! The previous documentaries he’s done are fantastic!!

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 10, 2022 11:18 AM

“The purpose of propaganda is not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponds to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control.” – Edited quote from Theodore Dalrymple, aka Anthony Daniels, British psychiatrist, my emphasis

“The official narrative is preposterous. On its face it is a ludicrous explanation. We don’t accept it.” – Mark Crispin Miller, Professor of Media Studies, NYU

​”The official story required either that one descended into total intellectual senility in order to still believe it – perhaps deliberately made ridiculous for that very purpose – or else that one keep one’s intellect alive but destroy almost everything that one had previously believed about how society works.” – 9/11 researcher, Gerard Holmgren, A Theory

The limitless elasticity of the Emperor’s New Clothes effect means that they can go out of their way to nonsensify their narrative – in fact, it works better for them – and have people accept it.

Just as you don’t need science to tell you that the covid pandemic is a complete fraud you don’t need science to tell you 9/11 is either. In a way, all the focus on science is distraction propaganda. Sure, it’s good to have but it shouldn’t be the main focus, the main point is that the story doesn’t add up from start to finish in any shape or form, it’s a complete load of nonsense.

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Sep 10, 2022 10:01 AM

 😀 
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sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Sep 10, 2022 10:20 AM

or all those van crashes. always take ID, no matterb where you go 🙂

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Sep 10, 2022 10:00 AM

9/11

TDj
TDj
Sep 10, 2022 7:25 PM

Are you working for Micro-soft-minded saps? Just a dumbcunt yank or wtf, why do you also wish to re-arrange THE date? today, being, 10/9/2022… ! I could amplify with ample evidence including a Texas instruments computer purchased in Hong Kong & never online, from 1995, original MS.
I had to adjust from imperial to metric systems during my schooling and now you wish to
Infer what exactly ? I change calenders, just like Microsoft… who programmed YOU?

Stop that shit. How old are you, maybe 21 ?
Come very fuckin’lately ?
You dumb kid , not
remotely amusing… !

It was me emphasising my 👎 dislike of childish 😤 tossers,
Incapable of comprehension of Corporate psychology.
Johnny get serious before tomorrow comes… 💥
Fuk kiddy ‘Kultur’ FKK like Bill ?
You stand naked.
Your point was ?

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Sep 11, 2022 8:41 AM
Reply to  TDj

The word lunatic comes from full moon as in lunar moon. as it is a full moon lets use that as a excuse in your howling. 🌕 

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Sep 10, 2022 9:57 AM

The 9/11 “Double-Cross” Conspiracy Theory.

https://www.unz.com/article/the-9-11-double-cross-conspiracy-theory/

Johnny
Johnny
Sep 10, 2022 7:54 AM
NickM
NickM
Sep 10, 2022 6:56 AM

“Trent’s Last Case”. Just finished re-reading the first detective story to unravel the hate-crazed convolutions of a “cool and long headed” Anglo-American plutocrat to wreak vengeance on ordinary feeling people. Written a century ago by Eric “Clerihew” Bentley, with a dedication to his socialist friend GKChesterton the anti-semite castigator of financial spiders.

A century later, the British prime minister who stoked up the murderous lies of Con-911 into the even more murderous lies of Con-WMD is no anti-semite and no anti-financier: in fact, TB.Liar is a director in House of Rothschild, an ex-employee of Goldman-Sacks bank and director of Carlyle Finance. With a “modest fortune” of $100 Million. Cool and Long Headed is the word.

GaryW
GaryW
Sep 10, 2022 5:12 AM

From belief in the “magic bullet” – to thinking steel and concrete buildings can magically pulverize into dust in mid-air – to experiencing terror in the face of a global pandemic so deadly it mirrored a “bad flu season” – the false flag train just keeps rolling along, decade after decade, transforming everyone who gets on board into a complete and total idiot.

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Sep 10, 2022 9:58 AM
Reply to  GaryW

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sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Sep 10, 2022 10:22 AM

a smart city!

Seansaighdeor
Seansaighdeor
Sep 10, 2022 5:34 PM

Taliban Engineering™ – simply the best!

TDj
TDj
Sep 10, 2022 7:27 PM

More kiddy sh8t.

Grigor
Grigor
Sep 10, 2022 3:49 AM

It was the work of American physicist Dr Steven Jones that awoke me to the realities of 9/11. Will there be a chance that you feature his remarkable studies of the thermite?

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 10, 2022 11:31 AM
Reply to  Grigor

I think thermite is distraction propaganda. The idea that thermite was used because of low noise is just silly. What we see in videos isn’t necessarily the noise on the day, is it – the audio could have been tampered with or who knows what. I think the way thermite works means it could not have been used.

https://www.quora.com/Buildings-How-could-thermite-be-used-in-the-demolition-of-a-multi-story-structure

Destruction of a car using thermite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdCsbZf1_Ng

Then it seems that the ongoing intense heat in the rubble is propaganda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txk6tCZ1p6s

I simply see no reason for the collapses not to be done using pretty standard methods … and what does it really matter? It was controlled demolition regardless.

The 9/11 story is simply full of distraction propaganda.

TDj
TDj
Sep 10, 2022 7:24 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Just like FLAXGIRL !

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Sep 10, 2022 1:19 PM
Reply to  Grigor

There was something else at work in the basements, IMO. Melting bedrock so it flowed and cooled like a lava flow. Unless thermite pooled there, via the open lift shafts most probably, or there was something else at work.

Some have suggested a small nuclear device arranged in a shape charge to shoot up the lift shafts whilst the thermite and explosives did its work above ground.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 11, 2022 1:45 AM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

That’s just what they tell us. This video exposes the lie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txk6tCZ1p6s

You need to bear in mind that there was masses of different propaganda streams pushed out for this event to distract, bamboozle and stratify the opposition argument.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Sep 11, 2022 1:37 AM
Reply to  Grigor

Limited Hangout

Steven and his namesake Alex were leaders in the limited hangout camp. It is highly unlikely that thermite could be used. The logistics are impossible. The W54 sub kiloton variable yield warhead was developed at great expense in the 1950’s. This warhead powered the backpack nuke and the Davy Crockett nuclear field artillery and was extensively tested. There are still pits from decommissioned weapons stored at a facility in the panhandle of Texas. These weapons were perfect for turning the towers into very fine dust in an instant.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Sep 10, 2022 3:02 AM

Convid

Convid is probably worse than 9/11. Millions died as a result of the long brutal war of terror that the false flag justified. However convid is breath taking in it’s scope. Every human on the planet was and is affected. Behaviour patterns altered forever. Almost everyone force injected with unknown substances that have killed and injured hundreds of thousands at the very least and may lead to population collapses.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Sep 10, 2022 10:23 AM

many volunteered!

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 10, 2022 11:39 AM

Probably worse? Of course, it’s way worse – there is simply no comparison – except if you put Iraq and Afghanistan into the equation. The jabs are killing and maiming thousands upon thousands upon thousands. While Mike Pompeo told us “We’re in a live exercise here” here it hardly qualifies as an “exercise” when maiming and killing is going on. In the case of 9/11 though the evidence shows irrefutably – both in the propaganda we see targeted to the anticipated disbelievers of the nonsense story and in the stories and visual evidence of alleged death and injury – it really was a Full Scale Anti-Terror Exercise pushed out as a real event where the planes were faked and death and injury were staged and the only major reality of the day was destruction of buildings.

TDj
TDj
Sep 10, 2022 7:35 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

So, nothing to do with the contents of WTC7 and Rumsfeld’s announcement,
The day before…

Complete Tom-foolery Flaxgirl.

You know better than any insider. Yet, Socrates defined the
Essence of wisdom, especially for Flaxgirls…

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 11, 2022 2:04 AM
Reply to  TDj

How do you determine what’s propaganda and what’s not, TDJ? Lots of truth can actually function as propaganda, especially distraction propaganda.

All propaganda is lies, even when one is telling the truth.”
George Orwell

Amanda
Amanda
Sep 10, 2022 12:40 AM

Here’s the best 9/11 documentary–it totally destroys all aspects of the official narrative:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq9nUPs2RAk&t=825s
It should have millions of views!!!

Thom Sheaffer
Thom Sheaffer
Sep 10, 2022 6:39 AM
Reply to  Amanda

Yeah, The New Pearl Harbor! I must have watched it a dozen times but its been a while. I’m surprised YouTube still allows it to be up there. Looks kind of old now like an artifact rather than an indictment but I watched for a few minutes and it sucked me right in. If you haven’t seen it you must – and try and get a normie or two to watch it as well. (Good luck.)

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Sep 10, 2022 5:38 PM
Reply to  Thom Sheaffer

Yes, ‘normies’ should definitely watch it.

I bought that DVD (had to order it from Amazon US – I’m in the UK, and at the time, the UK Amazon didn’t stock it) some years ago, and in 2017, lent it to my younger brother. However, he chose not to open his mind re. the events of 9/11, and, on returning the DVD to me, said merely “It lost me at ‘p*ss-poor pilots'”.

No matter how much I explained to him the actual facts, and what those words were a reference to, he refused to engage with the actual facts, and continued to ‘believe’ the false narrative spewed out by their beloved MSM.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Sep 10, 2022 11:41 AM
Reply to  Amanda

That documentary is missing an essential truth about the death and injury.

This is the best one hour you can invest in a video on 9/11 in my opinion.
http://www.earthlyfireflies.org/911-fraud/

John German
John German
Sep 10, 2022 12:31 AM

Until covid, I couldn’t believe the Government would kill it’s own people in such an event as 9/11. Now I see Governments killing their own people. I now view 9/11 “conspiracy theories” with fresh eyes.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Sep 10, 2022 2:38 AM
Reply to  John German

Better late than never. Sadly veteran JFK researchers have been taken in by convid.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Sep 10, 2022 3:03 AM
Reply to  John German

Well, better late than never. But, come on man. Seriously?

Just a little stat FYI – the total killed by democide in the 20th century far exceeded 300 million. Democide is death by government. We still have 78 more years to go in this century. What do you want to bet we kick the 20th century’s ass?

J A
J A
Sep 10, 2022 8:07 AM

Nah, fam. The government stops people from killing each other, y’know, like through wars and illegalisation of self defence and shit.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Sep 9, 2022 11:19 PM

So many false flag events, so little time. Just when you think you got a handle on one, another pops up completely distracting you from the previous one. And then we get old, and forget, and Oswald becomes Osama and Sirhan becomes Manson and 9/11 becomes Pearl Harbor and a fake virus becomes the end of human life as we know it.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 9, 2022 11:29 PM

If you put all the false flags on the same handle you may be able to mitigate the experiential inefficiencies.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Sep 10, 2022 3:09 AM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

One giant false flag. I think we’re there now.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 10, 2022 6:46 PM

Good. It really does make it all a lot easier.

plino
plino
Sep 12, 2022 4:42 AM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

The irony is clear. And at the same time, if things are on the same handle, but we see that they happen separately and for different reasons, and different characters with different goals, it doesn’t seem any better to me. Isn’t it also a relief to get lost in many details, keeping the intrigue in your head, perhaps a hope that saves from simple but difficult truths?
Intentional complication is the same as intentional simplification.

The question is what things are; and the handles are as much as they are.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 12, 2022 8:17 PM
Reply to  plino

Some people can’t handle it.

plino
plino
Sep 15, 2022 9:32 AM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

Maybe even no one can really do it, including themselves. Simplifications or complications seem inevitable. But… that’s life; it’s not a big deal. 🙂 

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Sep 10, 2022 2:39 AM

I’m glad you included Manson.

Observe
Observe
Sep 9, 2022 11:15 PM

Much appreciated, I wouldn’t have come across these events otherwise.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 9, 2022 10:09 PM

Unbelievably, at last we have reached the point where the younger generation have no recollection of that event, nor do they even give a damn about it.
It’s ancient history to them, and you can’t force them to make it relevant to their lives.

All those Architects, Lawyers and First Responders – God bless them – were simply too traumatized to get their act together immediately, when it might have made a difference.
I feel for them, but I can no longer be an enthusiastic supporter, when literally nobody is listening to them.

I would love to see appropriate retribution dished out for the criminals responsible for that day, but I fear it just isn’t going to happen – just as I am not particularly optimistic that Neil Ferguson, Matt Hancock and Antony Fauci will be remembered for their covidian crimes after only a few years…

Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Sep 10, 2022 12:06 AM
Reply to  wardropper

9/11 truth got diverted off into plane v no plane and all other sorts of infighting just like we’re doing w virus v no virus. I share your pessimism.

wardropper
wardropper
Sep 10, 2022 1:21 AM

Makes me very sad.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Sep 10, 2022 2:50 AM

The planning of the limited hangout “truth” movement obviously happened concurrently with the planning of the false flag. The perpetrators knew from earlier false flags that there would be many sceptics of the official 9/11 version. It was important to lead these agnostics into belief systems that were less of a threat to the establishment. The media was to be portrayed as a dupe rather than a complicit perpetrator. Hence the insistence that planes impacted the twin towers.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 10, 2022 5:13 AM

Hardly anyone ever talked “plane v no plane,” i was with the movement starting 9/12/01. But for two to three years, the leadership worked hard to prevent discussions of the physical evidence showing the WTC towers, all three of them, were brought down by demolition, not plane impacts. That’s more what the current virus controversy is like.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Sep 10, 2022 5:15 AM

Virus/no virus is a lot more like the physical evidence re the Twin Towers and WTC7 in the first couple of years after 9/11. The “leaders” pressed hard against discussing the physical evidence, people like Mike Ruppert, John Judge and Nafeez Ahmed, and their minions. Thankfully they failed.

Redpill Reader
Redpill Reader
Sep 10, 2022 9:14 AM

What fucked the 9/11 Truth movement big time was Judy “space beams” Wood and her army of shills and dupes

Derek
Derek
Sep 10, 2022 12:21 PM
Reply to  Redpill Reader

You got two down votes for stating the obvious. Have an up vote.

Alex Jones was the grand daddy with his Loose Change.
The Shanksville no plane theory even though there was two other debris fields which confirm a shoot down and the pentagon missile/globalhawk theory ignoring all the eyewitness accounts and cut down lamp posts.

Jones tried to reinvent himself with stop the steal.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 10, 2022 10:36 AM

1000%

Grigor
Grigor
Sep 10, 2022 3:58 AM
Reply to  wardropper

But many are listening. I am to count just one. And among my friends what was only several years ago (say, 2011) a topic for the fringe is now an open discussion at family dinner tables and in normal society. I think it is counter-reality to say otherwise.

Only last year I shared amongst my family the remarkable work of Dr Jones on thermite and many have gone on to take it seriously. My nephew, aged 17, talks of 9/11 and is very awake to the reality and he says majority of his friends agree.

I think your view is stained by the mainstream propaganda of supposed indifference

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Sep 10, 2022 6:46 PM
Reply to  Grigor

Exactly so, Grigor! People are just too impatient with history to allow it to unfold at its usual, unhurriable pace. We’ve all been trained to want things satisfyingly tied up in a Hollyshite disaster-film weekend plot-line. Not going to happen. The understanding of the reality of the 11/9 false flag spreads steadily around the world. Far more people can take the facts seriously now than could at the beginning.

Also, as the Anglozionist empire contracts, and the new rising powers begin to dominate more, it will become politically feasible for them to publish what they already know about 11/9. And for the same reason, they might even send robot close-in cameras to the Moon, to see whether there really is any American space junk in the Sea of Tranquillity. Or not. I’ll go with the evidence, whatever it turns out to be; but I suspect not.

You see: coming to terms with the sort of deep-dyed human perfidy which makes crimes like 11/9 possible also makes us understand that some of us are perfectly capable of faking the Moon landings too, if we feel hard enough driven.

People get wise to these ghastly realities.

Edwige
Edwige
Sep 10, 2022 9:20 AM
Reply to  wardropper

“the younger generation have no recollection of that event, nor do they even give a damn about it. It’s ancient history to them, and you can’t force them to make it relevant to their lives.”

Firstly, I don’t know what “the younger generation” care about and neither do you. They are not a homogeneous lump and probably have many and varied concerns. Secondly, nobody has to live through an event to care about it. Lots of people mourn on November 11th but weren’t alive during either world war – it’s because they’re programmed to. Thirdly, we are living in a world partly made by 9/11 and its “relevance” is obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together. Plus it happened to humanity and we are all part of the human experience. Finally, those who didn’t live through weren’t exposed to the psyop at the time and that can be an aid to seeing through the lie, they don’t have to admit they were hoodwinked and they have the counter-evidence more easily available.

If the young don’t seem interested, it’s more to do with sustained dumbing down, brainwashing by mainstream education and the wealth of distractions. On top of that there are all the reasons that mainstream older normies won’t wake up to what 9/11 really was.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 10, 2022 6:45 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Succinct.

Wisenox
Wisenox
Sep 9, 2022 9:43 PM

My interpretation of all 7 seals from Revelations:

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Observe
Observe
Sep 9, 2022 11:17 PM
Reply to  Wisenox

So, what you’re saying is, it’s all Trump’s fault?

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Sep 10, 2022 2:02 AM
Reply to  Observe

As the wheels come off the scamdemic, and in particular the deliberate lethality of the fake vaccines, the Democrats are going to do their best to make Trump the fall guy patsy for the global ops. Mr. Warp Speed. I refused to vote in the 2016 election. The Beast is truly satanic. As for Trump, I never trust a person who speaks his native language with a NewSpeak vocabulary of less than 1000 words. I see two possibilities with Trump and the scamdemic. Either he was in on it or he was too fucking stupid or cowardly to see what was going down. I find the former more plausible, despite the fact that he is one of the duller knives in the rack. Either way he was a useless zero. And now the moron wants to run again, and split conservatives and libertarian between himself and DeSantis who has three times the IQ and discipline of Trump and can bite, not just bark, as current events in FL indicate.

Johnnycomelately
Johnnycomelately
Sep 10, 2022 8:32 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

 Either he was in on it or he was too fucking stupid or cowardly to see what was going down. I find the former more plausible,

That old chestnut.
The cult of Alex Jones have all been saying via AJ HQ the dems and the deep state via china set up trump. LOL
Not long ago Trump was super clever 5D chess x 10.
Today he was bullied and cowardly or drugged up or stupid to see what was going down. EVEN though his daughter and him flogged the vaccine hard to the people and children they was to naive to the side effects.
The problem with people like you.
You refuse to get it. it is a form of mind control.

Hold on DeSantis to the rescue another form of mindcontrol.

Redpill Reader
Redpill Reader
Sep 10, 2022 9:28 AM

Yeah, the PTB are trying to scrub up Trump’s image enough that the suckers will fall for a second round of MAGA bullshit. Hence the “raid” and the other clumsy attempts to make it seem the establishment doesn’t like him.

FYI the Establishment loves him. He’s their lightning rod to make sure all the rage and anger gets safely conducted to earth without doing them any harm

S Cooper
S Cooper
Sep 9, 2022 9:18 PM

“Be like Larry, always negotiate hard to cover your building explicitly against terrorist attacks.”
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“A CIA asset hooked up to a dialysis machine in a cave high up in the Hindu Kush was behind the demolition of the World Trade Towers and the illegal invasion of the sovereign nation of Afghanistan, yeah right.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/united-93-what-happened-on-the-planes/2356

“The Corporate Fascist War Racketeers need to go, NOW!”

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Sep 9, 2022 9:13 PM

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Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Sep 10, 2022 2:33 AM
Reply to  Voz 0db

Murray Street Engine

The Murray street engine fragment has been shown by brilliant detective work to have been a type not used on the B767. It was part of a Pratt and Whitney JT9D engine but the type used on B747 200 aircraft. What gave the game away were the curved nozzles on the TOBI duct which injects cooling air into the first stage turbine blades. The shape of the TOBI duct on the B767 variant did not have the curved nozzles. The fellow who made the discovery backed it up by publishing images from spare parts catalogues.

J A
J A
Sep 10, 2022 8:09 AM
Reply to  Voz 0db

So, striking the corner of a high floor made the whole building crash downwards? and 7wtc…?

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 10, 2022 6:43 PM
Reply to  J A

Yes… the explaination is so obvious it is almost painfull to re-iterate: The laws of physics were momentarily suspended during that time, at that location, on the surface of the planet (which we all know is flat).
I hope this alleviates any tortuously entertained thoughts to the counter.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 9, 2022 8:59 PM

It’s so easy to feel that nostalgic twinge for that pre-9/11 time. It now feels like a distant dream. With hindsight, it was all a fraud. It was dependant on having the good fortune to be born into the “favoured” side, the side affluent enough to fight over the various items of pop culture and wax “profoundly” over our (post)modern alienated spirits or whatever. The cozy rebellion seemed to stretch away into the horizon. And, yes, there is a selfish side that says, “Why couldn’t they have just left it alone? Why did those parasites up there have to be so insatiable?” It’s a part that willingly looks away from such scenes as famines and wars which were all comfortably “off stage”.

And it is very significant that on “the day the world changed forever”, I came home and my wife said, “Have you seen this?” as I looked at the TV and saw a smoky building and thought, “Oh there goes some nasty business out in the far or middle east” until I realised it was New York. “Oh my God!” I thought, “That’s us!” – though to be sure I spent the following weeks in a state of fear wondering what the Americans were going to do about it. World War 3 just round the corner.

Then some months later, I heard on the late BBC2 news show that someone suggested there was no plane at the Pentagon and I thought, “Oh for fuck’s sake, don’t those conspiracy morons ever give up?”

Then I read David Ray Griffin’s New Pearl Harbour and thought “What the fuck?”

Which coincided with the rise of the internet – at least as far as I was concerned.

But there is one experience that actually seems common all the way down the line: things always seem to get worse. The days of the rise of “Thatcherism” seemed like hell on earth at the time. Looking back, it’s amazing how luxuriant these days were – not because Thatcher was good but because the parasitical gnawing still had a way to go before the social fabric really started to tatter. And the most sobering thing is that even now there’s a certain measure of comfort there. Now imagine a future when we will look back and think, “Oh how much we still had going for us even in the early days of covid!”

Caroline
Caroline
Sep 9, 2022 9:46 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Agree the decline is gradual like nature’s slow decay and so we can miss it. But it is happening – I am glad to say.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Sep 10, 2022 2:15 AM
Reply to  Caroline

Actually the decline is exponential and we are well into the hockey stick phase.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 10, 2022 6:33 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Once the hockey phase becomes unstuck there is a high likely hood that the next adhesive phase could involve water ballet. This will be a very sticky situation.

Redpill Reader
Redpill Reader
Sep 10, 2022 9:30 AM
Reply to  Caroline

You’re glad to say? What the hell is wrong with you?

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 10, 2022 6:35 PM
Reply to  Redpill Reader

Caroline is simply a glad personality type…
There is nothing right or wrong with this.
It is simply her happy-go-lucky nature.

Stop The Prison Mentality
Stop The Prison Mentality
Sep 9, 2022 9:59 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Yep, and it’s not going to change anytime soon.

that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 9, 2022 11:25 PM

Thirty spokes share the wheel’s hub;
It is the center hole that makes it useful.
Shape clay into a vessel;
It is the space within that makes it useful.
Cut doors and windows for a room;
It is the holes which make it useful.
Therefore profit comes from what is there;
Usefulness from what is not there.

Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Sep 9, 2022 11:32 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Keen insights – even being born middle class in the west you’re much closer to the Imperial table and therefore more likely to be allowed to share in the spoils of empire in varying degrees. Every bullshit convenience we take for granted. The power elite seem to be pulling up the ladder at this point – or at least trying to.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 10, 2022 6:40 PM

The power E-lite can be very handy when trying to locate the rungs of a ladder down a dismally dark hole.
They are available on-line at a discount if you buy three at a time.

mgeo
mgeo
Sep 10, 2022 8:36 AM
Reply to  George Mc

9/11: This explains the NYC events:
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/09/01/breathtaking-solving-nuclear-9-11-the-pommer-report/

Good times gone by:
:- The Genuine Progress Indicator – that covers specific costs in 17 countries constituting over 1/2 of humanity – shows a steady decline since 1978. -Ida Kubiszewski & Robert Costanza 2013
:- A major cause is the counter-revolution by the very wealthiest, undoing progressive taxation. 

Transmutation
Transmutation
Sep 9, 2022 8:36 PM

The Lizard Queen has transferred her consciousness—she never “dies.” Just watch even more weird events unfold. Buckle up.

Kees Koek
Kees Koek
Sep 9, 2022 8:07 PM

Snall correction. Utrecht is in the Netherlands.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 9, 2022 11:26 PM
Reply to  Kees Koek

It is the utmost importance to correct a ‘snall’ where-ever you may find one.

Grigor
Grigor
Sep 10, 2022 4:01 AM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

If not then civilization begins to crumble. I myself have witnessed this.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 10, 2022 6:26 PM
Reply to  Grigor

You have witnessed one of the great cataclysms and are fortunate to now posses this amorphous wisdom…

The snall (as you very well know) are insidious in their incorrectness gnawing at the very foundations of the founded civilisations.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 10, 2022 5:01 AM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

It is of the utmost importance to…

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 10, 2022 6:27 PM
Reply to  Cliff Edwards

How very snall of you…

You your input for thank.

Cliff Edwards
Cliff Edwards
Sep 11, 2022 12:25 AM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

About as snall as you, wherever you were, perhaps?

Kees Koek
Kees Koek
Sep 10, 2022 11:05 AM
Reply to  KiwiJoker

Thank you for the funny rectification. You got 6 more friends out of it.

KiwiJoker
KiwiJoker
Sep 10, 2022 6:30 PM
Reply to  Kees Koek

I am truly humbled that now I have six friends.
Bless you.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Sep 10, 2022 2:36 AM
Reply to  Kees Koek

If there was an error it appears to have been corrected.

Kees Koek
Kees Koek
Sep 10, 2022 11:13 PM

I see, that’s cool. It said “Belgium” in the original. Thanks for replying.
If we can get rid of “snall” errors, then I’m all for it. 😁 just trying to help out.