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What is All this Fuss about Rights?

Todd Hayen

People seem to think that anyone who complains about their “rights” is some sort of crybaby ninny. I hear comments all the time like, “Rights? You already don’t have any rights, why are you so upset about losing any more?” Or quite the opposite, “You don’t know what losing rights is all about, try living a week in North Korea!”

Neither one of these responses shows much intelligence or understanding of our current situation.

The first one is a particularly good example in this regard. Rights are being lost so quickly. When and if we finally wake up to that fact we will realize how much we indeed have already lost.

That still is not a good reason to ignore what is going on.

The second response shows that whoever is saying this doesn’t understand that North Korea is exactly where we are headed. It too is no reason not to be hyper-observant about what is currently happening.

History has clearly shown that if you don’t nip such things in the bud, totalitarianism or any of its oppressive derivatives is bound to eventually creep its way into the culture. We, as a free society, must constantly be aware of the possibility and see the early signs of it.

It is so interesting to me that people in general will slap on the label “paranoid” or better yet, “conspiracy theorist” if a person shows any concern for the abuse of power and possible corruption, no matter how significant, or insignificant, the concern may be. As Jordan Peterson once said:

Systems go terribly out of control when people don’t stop them when they are going mildly out of control.”

Making this stranger yet, we know that people, and lots of them, are still capable of acknowledging and acting against what they perceive as government corruption. This capability was made clearly evident during Donald Trump’s term as US President.

Whether Trump’s entire negative persona as president was fabricated by the press or not (I certainly doubt if all of it was) those on the left still responded as if it was a formidable problem, and of course still do.

As much as I was taken in by media hype at the time, I am still astounded how viciously adamant people were and are that Trump, and the Republican Party that supported him, are the only reason the country is in a tailspin. It all seems rather clear to me that Trump, and all that came with him, was at least in part, an insidious decoy.

So why is this? If the populace can see corruption in one circumstance (the alleged corruption of Trump’s administration and party), why can’t they see it in another (the government corruption we are experiencing now)—and in one that the evidence shows is indeed corrupt? Is this perception entirely caused by the media?—in my humble opinion, very likely so.

I believe that the cliché is true—the press really does control public opinion and public stance.

The press may be one of the roots of the massive weed that got us into this mess, but the press used to be only as powerful as their insistence on reporting the truth.

Now, obviously, it doesn’t matter to them at all if they are reporting the truth. So why is that?

The taproot is not the press, but the people consuming the media’s vomit of “information.” They typically do not know how to scrutinize truth from untruth. In fact, it seems that the distinction between fact and fiction doesn’t even matter.

I have seen situations with friends and family where a very clear evidential truth is finally presented (as is happening quite often now) and they STILL will not cry uncle, “I don’t care if it is true, I am sticking with what I believe.” It is a no-win situation.

Why?

I don’t think there is one answer to that question. But surely one of them is the power of past indoctrination. With regard to the freedom question, I truly believe many people simply do not want to be free.

For one thing, they don’t really know what freedom means, and as simple and facetious as it sounds, as long as they don’t have their video games, pot, porn, and other instant gratifiers taken away, they are as free as they care to be.

Think Brave New World and the prominent drug Soma as Huxley presented it in his joyous dystopia. Soma can take many forms today, and it replaces anything of any true value. It is a drug, just as the drugs we encounter today such as pot and alcohol, but also things we don’t think of as drugs like cell phones, computers, video games, pornography, new cars, fancy shoes and clothes, big houses, partying, sex, affairs, and so on.

Of course I am describing an extreme of the spectrum, but I think you get my point.

So my view is that many people do not care about the sort of freedom you and I would fight to the death to protect. Take freedom of speech. I am an old hippie (well, not exactly, but that is another story). Let’s just say I come from an era when freedom of speech, and the restrictions around it, was all a really big deal.

Free speech was the pillar of American democracy, and even a tiny seemingly insignificant oppression of it was tantamount to plunging a sword into the gut of everything the United States stood for. I still feel this way.

I got into one of these typical skirmishes on Facebook with a few very long-time friends. Some of them people who are my age as well and should have the same sentiments regarding freedom of speech as I do.

I played dumb for the most part, and responded to someone who was suggesting that people now boycott Twitter because the “free thinking” Elon Musk was taking over. I asked, “is that because you don’t like Elon Musk, or because you don’t like freedom of speech?”

Someone else then proceeded to give me a primer on Constitutional Law and said something like, “To paraphrase the constitution, ‘Congress shall make no law to restrict the freedom of speech.’ Last time I looked, Twitter was not Congress.” Implying that Twitter was not violating any law that they had to abide by, that only the government of the United States needed to be concerned about the illegality of limiting speech, a private company had nothing to worry about.

Now, I am not going to get into a discussion about any of this, i.e., whether Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, et al have the right to restrict speech, censor information, or what not. I do think there is an argument here, obviously, but that’s for another time.

What I AM going to comment on is the attitude of my compatriots taking the position of defending Twitter, or whomever, of their current practice to censor, restrict, and otherwise oppress the free exchange of information and opinions. What the hell?

The other oddity is that half a dozen people suddenly pounced on me for suggesting that Twitter had no right to manage their members who had all “signed” agreements of submission to Twitter’s “rules of engagement,” when that isn’t even what I was questioning.

People overall seem very sensitive about this. They are quite happy that these “information sources” are protecting their delicate ears from misinformation.

I hear this sort of thing all of the time—a blatant defense of privately owned companies to do whatever they damn well please… “a restaurant is not taking your rights away if they won’t let you in if you are not vaccinated, it is their right to bar service to anyone who does not meet their standards: ‘no shirt: no service, no vax: no service!!’”

OK, maybe that is true, maybe there are many cases where these companies have full right to do their form of vaccine discrimination, but why are these people defending that? Why aren’t they in an outrage? That, to me, is like defending someone’s right to bar people of color from entering a restaurant.

No one would stand for that, even if the people discriminating were on the right side of the law. It seems unconscionable to me that ANYONE would be on the side of someone, or a private company, who wishes to restrict speech. But that is where we are.

People honestly do not want to be free. They find comfort in being controlled, and having information controlled. With freedom comes responsibility, and today it seems no one is willing to take on any responsibility.

Todd Hayen is a registered psychotherapist practicing in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. He holds a PhD in depth psychotherapy and an MA in Consciousness Studies. He specializes in Jungian, archetypal, psychology. Todd also writes for his own substack, which you can read here

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Arthur
Arthur
Dec 2, 2022 2:13 AM

With freedom comes responsibility, and part of the problem is a lack of desire to take personal responsibility for anything. It’s easier to play the blame game (and honestly, the media is complicit in that). People are willing to give up their freedoms in exchange for ease, convenience and the illusion of safety. Personal privacy is all but gone. Freedom of speech is on the chopping block right now, as is our freedom of self determination in areas like health, food choices, etc. I feel as you do about freedom of speech. I also feel that private businesses have a right to do business as they see fit. BUT, there seems to be an absence of logic on the part of those who defend the very thing they rail against, depending upon who is doing it. There is a double standard; they are falling all over themselves to defend Twitter’s… Read more »

Helen
Helen
Nov 30, 2022 7:30 PM

In Portugal there are efforts to make ammendments inorder to legalise “confinements outside the state of emergency”: https://www-associacao21–26-pt.translate.goog/agora-e-sempre/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Human values
Human values
Nov 23, 2022 12:54 PM

People who don’t care about the truth are insane. They believe that 2 + 2 = 5; that black can be white; that a bachelor can be married; that a square is a circle; and so on. Those people have no reason, they are unreasonable. Because of their lack of reason, they also lack conscience. If people believe any twisted lies, they are following the liar or the Big Lie into hell. Truth is the absolute necessity for anything good. Without truth there are only lies to follow. Without truth there can be no justice, since the liars say ”injustice is justice”; without truth there can be no freedom, since the liars say ”slavery is freedom”; without truth there can be no equality, since the liars say ”inequality equals equality”. Or other such nonsense. Lies never make any sense. People were born with reason and conscience (wisdom). If some people… Read more »

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Nov 21, 2022 10:49 PM

We, modern moron slaves, ONLY have privileges… Which They can take back whenever They want. Seems that OPERATION COVIDIUS isn’t still good enough for slaves to understand this SIMPLE FACT.

Can only wait for the next OPERATION!

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Nov 21, 2022 6:16 PM

The day the herds of modern moron slaves want to be RESPONSIBLE hence FREE… Let me know!

-CO
-CO
Nov 22, 2022 7:32 PM
Reply to  Voz 0db

Voz, in your first post you included yourself, hence in the ‘We’ in your quote: “We, modern moron slaves…” In your next post you appear to have distanced yourself from “the herds of modern moron slaves”. My question is have you now become free from being a bonded slave? If so, how did you manage to do just that within this corrupt system?

NickM
NickM
Nov 21, 2022 6:59 AM

H.L. Mencken (1880 to 1956) said, “Democracy is the pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance”.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 20, 2022 6:46 PM

“The Planet” isn’t the only curious transcendent entity to dominate “our” lives. There is also ….. “water”. https://psyche.co/ideas/what-does-water-want-most-humans-seem-to-have-forgotten “What does water want? Most humans seem to have forgotten” And the question begging in that bizarre title would fill a couple of volumes. What does it even mean for “water” to “want” anything. And did humans ever “know” this only to “forget” it? Well it seems water has not been it its “free” of “natural” state for …. ooh millennia I should say. Indeed the very activity of humanity intruded on those mystical flowings of water from the dawn of our history. “The scale of our efforts to control water is vast. But control is illusory. Water does what it wants, as we are seeing increasingly often, as people around the world grapple with severe floods and droughts.” A hugely suspect comment. Is the flooding and droughts a matter of water… Read more »

theobalt
theobalt
Nov 20, 2022 9:25 PM
Reply to  George Mc

which brings me to holly water. No matter how carefully people of the cloth have blessed it, was it always done properly. Did water get the wrong idea. I Don’t think we should drop this whole investigation just yet. The ramifications I’m afraid… are endless (yawwwwwn)

Howard
Howard
Nov 22, 2022 5:13 PM
Reply to  theobalt

The comedian Arj Barker (yes, there are other comedians in the world besides Herr Zelensky) has a wonderful stand-up routine about water (no link provided here, sorry).

theobalt
theobalt
Nov 21, 2022 12:51 AM
Reply to  George Mc

remember “The Shape Of The Water” which went straight from my disgust to the Oscars

Howard
Howard
Nov 22, 2022 5:10 PM
Reply to  theobalt

For what it’s worth, I didn’t like that movie either. It was too bizarre for me – and that is really saying something!

Balgorg
Balgorg
Nov 21, 2022 4:00 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Sounding very Victor Shauberger or Callum Coates inspired?
Shauberger definitely knew what water wanted.

Arthur
Arthur
Dec 2, 2022 2:32 AM
Reply to  George Mc

If I read this all right, I believe you are commenting on the arrogance and hubris of the global elite. If that’s correct, I’m not sure why the down-votes?

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 20, 2022 3:01 PM

I have an overlord server called “getpocket” which is “a free service that makes it easy to discover great content that’s personalized to your interests, and save this content so you can return to it later – on any device, at any time”. “Personalized to my interests”? Well how helpful of them. And they clearly have my soul to save since they direct me to something called popsci – or “popular science”, a fascinating term. Science is, or ought to be, a serious venture. And usually carried out by specialists. So what is “popular science”? It’s the science presented to you by these caring … entities of some description. Anyway – they dished up this: https://www.popsci.com/military/ufo-conspiracy-dangerous/ It dates from July 2021 but they are eternally watchful. They say this: “UFO conspiracies can be more dangerous than you think” “More dangerous”? Really? I didn’t even know they were “dangerous”! Anyway, the… Read more »

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 20, 2022 4:06 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Well George I got a say… you keep going out there at your own peril to uncover the ridiculous, and I don’t think we appreciate enough the countless times you avoided us the worst… Just be careful will you? 🥹

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 20, 2022 7:37 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

I appreciate that. And I’m afraid I’ve another one pending which I kinda regret. I just can’t stop myself!

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 20, 2022 7:44 PM
Reply to  George Mc

In doubts, just remember what most people say about regrets on their death bed 😀

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 20, 2022 10:51 PM
Reply to  Theobalt

You never know what you’re going to do on your deathbed (apart from dying of course which is pretty much a done deal!) I’ve heard that John Wayne converted from Presbyterianism to Catholicism on his deathbed. Well why not?

theobalt
theobalt
Nov 21, 2022 12:25 AM
Reply to  George Mc

When I was a kid, I panicked when the outcome was near. “…no heads, no tails!”

Priest: Pick a faith Mr. Wayne
Bishop: We both agree it won’t make much of a difference

Which all begs the question Mr. Mc, where’s Buddha when you need a good laugh

NickM
NickM
Nov 21, 2022 7:19 AM
Reply to  theobalt

Buddha is in Nirvana clapping one hand and listening to the sound of silence; wearing a happy smile.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 21, 2022 10:20 AM
Reply to  NickM

I know. It was a rhetorical question

NickM
NickM
Nov 21, 2022 7:16 AM
Reply to  George Mc

<what is “popular science”?>

In the early 1800s Sir Humphrey Davy and his assistant, Plain Michael Faraday thrilled the children of the Royal Family with Christmas Lectures at the Royal Institution. In the late 1970s the same Royal Institution Christmas Lectures were still popular with children, including my own.

But “popscience” is newspeak. You are right to suspect some PR campaign by the same Con artists who brought you “The Science” of Con-19.

Arthur
Arthur
Dec 2, 2022 2:46 AM
Reply to  George Mc

LOL, the government themselves make it easy to believe they are covering things up. Watergate anyone? Agent Orange? Thalidomide? Glyphosate? …

There is a history of cover ups covering up coverups. They must really think we are that stupid. Trouble is, a lot of people are.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Nov 20, 2022 1:21 PM

“Why it is Groper Joe in a Hawaiian Luau shirt sniffling Mini Me while four other sock puppet nasties watch. Seems like the Doctor Evil look is out.”
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“Now a message from our Psycho Nazi owners to all us pleb/prole untermenschen useless eaters.”
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“Corporate Fascism and Eugenics forever!”

NickM
NickM
Nov 21, 2022 7:31 AM
Reply to  S Cooper

From your Link to GlobalResearch:

“Oxfam review of IMF COVID-19 loans showed that 33 African countries were encouraged to pursue austerity policies. The world’s poorest countries are due to pay $43 billion in debt repayments in 2022, which could otherwise cover the costs of their food imports.

According to Prof Michel Chossudovsky of the Centre for Research on Globalization, the closure of the world economy by Lockdown imposed on more than 190 countries has triggered an unprecedented process of global indebtedness. Governments are now under the control of global creditors in the post-COVID era. What we are seeing is a de facto privatisation of the state by Western financial institutions.

Moreover, these debts are largely U$dollar-denominated, helping to strengthen the U$dollar [and U$ “soft power” over regimes that force their countries to swallow the debt bait].

It raises the question: what was COVID really about?”

Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Nov 20, 2022 1:12 PM

The subtext to all of this is that people don’t have the critical thinking skills to evaluate the veracity of any of the media they’re exposed to. Like do pro censorship people fear if they see an Alex Jones video they might agree with it? Or do they just think that OTHER stupid ppl can’t differentiate or parse out fact from fiction? It does seem like some of these people believe that “objective” journalism exists.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 20, 2022 12:57 PM

Off topic but one of my son’s carers has grown his hair, dyed it blond and now wants to be addressed by a female name. I was too depressed to enquire.

And on that topic,1984 updated:

O’Brien showed Winston the photograph of a man with a dress pulled up at the front to reveal penis and testicles:

“Is this a man or a woman, Winston?’

“A man.”

“And if the Party says that it is not a man but a woman – then what is it?”

“A man.”

The word ended in a gasp of pain. The needle of the dial had shot up to fifty-five. The sweat had sprung out all over Winston’s body. The air tore into his lungs and issued again in deep groans which even by clenching his teeth he could not stop. O’Brien watched him, the photo still showing. He drew back the lever.

theobalt
theobalt
Nov 21, 2022 1:01 AM
Reply to  George Mc

An open mind. Have you even contemplated being called Georgina (ok I’ll stop, this is the last one I almost promise… but stop the temptation please)

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 21, 2022 11:59 AM
Reply to  theobalt

Abandon physical genitalia and all you have to guide you is the way you feel – which is how the media condition you to feel. And you know what happens to open minds – they tend to spill out onto the floor.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 21, 2022 5:18 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Loll… Food for thoughts for the next guy… but forget about sexual appetites

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Nov 20, 2022 12:33 PM

I tried to post the following just over an hour ago, but have just seen that (for absolutely no reason) it says ‘pending’. So will try again.

In this month’s issue of the excellent truth-telling publication, ‘The Light’ Paper, it has an item called “A selection of words and phrases with their ‘Oldspeak’ definitions”.
In each month’s issue, they have an item covering two pages, featuring some aspect of the evil global takeover that began [in earnest…] in early 2020. The above item is this month’s two-page item, and can be found by scrolling down to pp 14-15 at the link below:

https://thelightpaper.co.uk/assets/pdf/Light-27-Web-Final1.pdf

NickM
NickM
Nov 21, 2022 9:08 AM

“In this month’s issue of the excellent truth-telling publication, ‘The Light’ Paper, it has an item called “HIV Was the Rehearsal for Covid-19″)” That excellent truth-telling publication has its heart in the right place, fighting the good fight against Con-19; but I take exception to that particular article. It repeats an old claim (which I remember from the 1970s) that HIV is not caused by the HIV virus. It goes on to repeat an even older claim from Victorian times: that there are no viral diseases (which I remember reading in Bernard Shaw who suffered from Smallpox after being vaccinated against the disease). This article also cites Kary Mullis out of context: Mullis was protesting against misuse of his PCR reaction as a specific diagnostic test for a single virus (eg, as misused by Con-19 artists for a diagnostic of the Covid-19 virus). PCR is completely non-specific; PCR will amplify… Read more »

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Nov 21, 2022 10:35 AM
Reply to  NickM

Yes, I understand that the PCR process is completely non-specific: that it’s useless as a test for any specific virus (or ‘virus’… I personally am not sure whether they, viruses [in the pathogenic sense] exist or not. Some data makes me think that yes, they probably do [though most definitely not the claimed ‘covid-19’…], and other data [sort of…] supports that they don’t… Am currently on the fence, re. that).

Right from the start of all this, in early-mid 2020, I’ve been trying to enlighten my family members and friends that the PCR process is not a diagnostic test… but they still choose to obtain their ‘information’/’news’ from the MSM. Nothing will make them see sense. More fool them.

NickM
NickM
Nov 21, 2022 12:31 PM

I sympathise, having lost communication with friends and family by revealing the truth about Con-19. One is met with frozen silence at best, with active hostility at worst. The Cancel Culture has supplanted former tolerance. We no longer amiably Agree to Disagree.

“We never mention Uncle Henry: he’s a Democrat”

https://youtu.be/FpSmoc07pEg

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Nov 22, 2022 1:05 PM
Reply to  NickM

Yes, right from the start of this global takeover, I’ve been providing a veritable wealth of trustworthy information from honest doctors, scientists, lawyers, the rare honest politician (for eg, the German, Christine Anderson), etc etc, to my relatives and friends which proves that (as you say) what’s going on is ‘Con-19′. But they steadfastly refuse to address the many evidences that that is so. They are so immensely gullible, brainwashed, naive, and so choose to ‘believe’ what they’re told on their beloved TVs. As a result, they’ve all had three injections each (and, in the case of my sister’s husband [75] and two of my friends [in their late 80s], four ‘jabs’ each… I’ve been providing them all with the many evidences of the horrific effects of these injections, but they still choose to continue to roll up their sleeves… Yes, ‘frozen silence at best, active hostility at worst’ perfectly… Read more »

Felicia
Felicia
Nov 21, 2022 3:00 PM

That’s what’s so weird about the Elizabeth Holmes case — why is it fraud when she did it, but not fraud for COVID?

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Nov 20, 2022 12:29 PM

I tried to post an item an hour ago (11.31am today), but it peculiarly says ‘pending’… for no reason whatsoever. Will try to post it again.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 20, 2022 12:05 PM

https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/uk-column-news-18th-november-2022

43:36 Clip: Schwab in Bali at B20—”Deep, systemic restructuring will take some time and the world will look different afterwards”

Patrick Henningsen analysis: WEF frustrated that the new world structure is taking longer than bargained for

It must be terribly inconvenient for these global barons that their gated community matrix world isn’t here yet. Look at all the parties they have had to postpone! Fucking uppity plebs!

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 20, 2022 4:24 PM
Reply to  George Mc

They’re obviously calling to the world population to help speed it up

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Nov 20, 2022 11:31 AM

The latest edition of the excellent ‘The Light’ Paper is out. In each month’s issue, there is a double-page spread featuring some aspect of the evil that is being perpetrated worldwide.

The November 2022 double-page spread is entitled “A selection of words and phrases with their Oldspeak definitions”, and can be found at the following link at pp 14-15. Just scroll down to the relevant pages!

Some examples of the content of the item are as follows:

“Conspiracy theory/Misinformation” = The truth

“Conspiracy Theorist” = critical thinker

“Safe and Effective” = highly dangerous and totally useless

“Died suddenly and/or mysteriously” = often comes after ‘vigorously promoting the ‘covid’ ‘vaccine’

“Smart” = spying

“Fact-checker” = Censor/propagandist

https://thelightpaper.co.uk/assets/pdf/Light-27-Web-Final1.pdf

Edwige
Edwige
Nov 20, 2022 10:48 AM

Matt Hancock has admitted in his current TV performance that the Convid “rules” and “laws” were in truth “guidelines”. Another thing on which those crazy conspiracy theorists turned out to be correct.

Otherwise Hancock has been demonstrating all the classic symptoms of the narcissist and psychopath e.g. taking no real responsibility for his actions, trying to position himself as the true victim etc.

St Stephen
St Stephen
Nov 20, 2022 10:05 AM

Viz. Erich Fromm, Escape from Freedom (1941), in which he asserts that the majority of people prefer to become what he calls conformist automatons to escape the crushing psychological weight of deciding for themselves.
Jung, in an essay from the 1950s, warned of psychic epidemics, worse than wars or revolutions in their consequences, that grip the minds of millions in a shared delusion: we are living through such a one or a series (covid, Ukraine, climate…), induced and/or opportunistically exploited by those with power. Desmet nicely explains the mechanisms, I think, by mass formation. For these thinkers, the author of this article and most of its readers, maintaining the capacity to think critically as an individual is paramount to being truly human. It’s vital too, that such individuals make common cause against the dominant group think, and no contradiction.

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Nov 20, 2022 1:24 PM
Reply to  St Stephen

“The lust for power is not rooted in strength but in weakness. It is the expression of the inability of the individual self to stand alone and live. It is the desperate attempt to gain secondary strength where genuine strength is lacking.

The word power has a twofold meaning. One is the possession of power over somebody, the ability to dominate him; the other meaning is the possession of power to do something, to be able, to be potent. The latter meaning has nothing to do with domination; it expresses mastery in the sense of ability.”

~ Erich Fromm, Escape from Freedom

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Nov 20, 2022 4:06 PM
Reply to  St Stephen

Jung might have been referring to this phenomenon: >

Mass psychogenic illness (MPI), also called mass sociogenic illness, mass psychogenic disorder, epidemic hysteria, or mass hysteria, involves the spread of illness symptoms through a population where there is no infectious agent responsible for contagion.

It is the rapid spread of illness signs and symptoms affecting members of a cohesive group, originating from a nervous system disturbance involving excitation, loss, or alteration of function, whereby physical complaints that are exhibited unconsciously have no corresponding organic causes.

Mass psychogenic illness – Wikipedia

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 21, 2022 7:07 AM

Something similar but more innocuous underlies the success of propaganda: political (including religious) and commercial. “Morphic resonance” may be a factor.

St Stephen
St Stephen
Nov 21, 2022 2:45 PM

Close, and as a medical man Jung would surely have been aware of this, and may even have been inspired by it. But what he clearly means in this context, writing as far back, I now see, as 1934 (The Development of Personality), is purely psychological contagion, a shared delusion spread in an entire population or populations by fear, prejudice, ignorance, conformism et al, to produce massive crowd-think akin to Desmet’s description of mass formation. Jung, too, at the time he wrote, was all too aware of the rise of totalitarianism. ‘The gigantic catastrophes that threaten us today are not elemental happenings of a physical or biological order, but psychic events. At any moment several millions of human beings may be smitten with a new madness…’. In a late essay, published in 1957 (The Undiscovered Self), he again warns of the dangers of psychic epidemic and State Absolutism. The obsession… Read more »

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Nov 21, 2022 3:21 PM
Reply to  St Stephen

Hello St Stephen: I came by this definition years ago, following an episode of intense delusion with a person I “loved”. The definition covers many such “shared” occurrences… >

Folie à deux, also known as shared psychosis or shared delusional disorder, is a psychiatric syndrome in which symptoms of a delusional belief, and sometimes hallucinations, are transmitted from one individual to another…

An alternate definition of mutual sponsorship: > Folie imposée

Folie imposée is where a dominant person (known as the ‘primary’, ‘inducer’ or ‘principal’) initially forms a delusional belief during a psychotic episode and imposes it on another person or persons (known as the ‘secondary’, ‘acceptor’ or ‘associate’) with the assumption that the secondary person might not have become deluded if left to his or her own devices…

StStephen
StStephen
Nov 23, 2022 9:28 PM

Hello, Paul Vonharnish. Yes, as the french suggests, “madness for two”, a term familier to psychiatry, exists at an intimate level, between two people. The second term (with which I wasn’t familiar) also, judging from its definition. Whereas, in a psychic epidemic, entire populations share the same delusion(s), in a folie des millions.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 20, 2022 8:45 AM

Just got a brochure in my letterbox.
Makes for interesting reading.
More here:
https://www.jabinjuriesglobal.com/

Velvet Revolution
Velvet Revolution
Nov 20, 2022 3:04 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Yes, interesting reading. Heartbreaking. Thanks for sharing. I wish they would have a more detailed ‘About’ section to know who they are affiliated with/sponsored by (if anyone other than individuals). They announce on the site that there is a new version coming soon, so maybe they will update that info. Until then I will remain cautiously optimistic.  🙂 

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Nov 20, 2022 7:36 AM

The sheep want to be safe.
Government knows this, so paralyses them
with fear.
MSM is the cancer..

les online
les online
Nov 20, 2022 5:40 AM

As some have tried to get understood,
‘Lockdown wasnt imposed to protect the world from a new virus but because the real economy had to be shut down.’ (Simon Elmer).
‘…what most of us didnt know was that the Great Reset of the global financial system supposedly justified and even necessitated by the ‘pandemic’ was initiated six months before (the pandemic) was officially declared, and not in response to a virus.’
‘Lockdown wasnt imposed to protect the world economy from a “civilization threatening” new virus but because the real economy had to be shut down – with most business transactions and consumer spending suspended – in order to ‘insulate’ it from the vast sums of money being pumped into the collapsing financial sector.’

https://expose-news.com/2022/11/19/lockdown-was-imposed-to-shut-down-the-economy/

And the ‘covid’ pandemic provided the cover story for rapid roll-out of 5g – necessary forthe Global total Surveillance Prison:

https://expose-news.com/2022/11/19/an-international-appeal-halt-rollout-of-5g/

Maxwell
Maxwell
Nov 20, 2022 3:05 AM

You can go round and ask “the folk” if they believe they have a right to breathe freely.

Probably gonna get around 100% “Yes” on that question.

Next ask them if through the last two years they slapped a mask over their mouth when their government told them to. Gonna get a lot of rubbery explanations about that.

“The folk” better wake up pretty damn quick and get control of this runaway train before that filthy mask over their mouth becomes an obligatory appendage on the digital plantation.

That discussion about rights will be foreclosed if this doesn’t happen shortly. Those free breaths are going to be harder to come by with the boot on your neck.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 20, 2022 3:59 AM
Reply to  Maxwell

‘boot on the neck’ or gasping for breath with a compromised immune system.

Elongated Muskrat
Elongated Muskrat
Nov 20, 2022 4:37 AM
Reply to  Maxwell

Henceforth, if and once the reset is truly sprung, there ain’t gonna be no Rights, only the Bill of Wrongs.

Mucho
Mucho
Nov 20, 2022 2:10 AM

Busload of what looks like military men being dropped off in Ireland. We are under attack, make no mistake – from within. The enemy class is doing this from within

Ireland’s Final Days (bitchute.com)

Grafter
Grafter
Nov 20, 2022 12:35 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Same thing in Perth Scotland. Two of largest hotels. Station and Queens Hotels. now closed to the public. Filled with asylum seekers.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 20, 2022 1:07 AM

They don’t have a fucking clue:
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wardropper
wardropper
Nov 20, 2022 2:18 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Only one thing makes me suspicious of Orwell’s ultimate motives: The fact that “1984” didn’t have a happy ending. Even Plato condemned Homer a couple of thousand years ago for allowing some of his fictional heroes to perish in ignominy. He thought it immoral to allow that because of the effect it would have upon the reader. The group-psyche of mankind currently needs help, and the subtle undertones of renowned literature can provide that help, or sabotage it. If we just think about the principle involved here for a minute: How many impressionable teenagers in, say, 1965, came out of a James Bond movie fondly imagining that they were a potential Bond…? Answer: A great number of them. Now, how many impressionable teenagers back then came out of a cinema after watching “1984”, fondly imagining that they were a potential Winston? Answer: Not one. I don’t know enough about Orwell… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Nov 20, 2022 4:07 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I believe much (perhaps too much) modern literature wishes to engage the reader rather than have him a passive spectator. This could have some bearing on the ambiguity inhabiting much of the work: let the reader decide how it ends.

This is not necessarily a bad thing; and it’s in part a reaction to the overly in-your-face obviousness of most TV and movie fare.

After all, the history of humanity suggests that it’s rarely good that vanquishes evil but rather a greater evil does.

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 21, 2022 7:13 AM
Reply to  Howard

Agree. An unrealistic upbringing will only drive people to accept fanciful dogmas.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Nov 20, 2022 12:35 AM

Law Enforcement order followers are trained to call people that bring up rights “sovereign citizens”.

As if anyone that doesn’t immediately kowtow to their authority is a law breaker.

What all these morons don’t know is that per USC Title 18, Sections 240-242, everytime they use their authority to violate rights, they are the ones committing a crime.

The very reason they are given unconstitutional power by the courts, like qualified immunity.

May Hem
May Hem
Nov 21, 2022 4:55 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

The police in each australian state as well as the federal police are all private corporations. They all have an ABN (Aust Business Number). This is not hidden as you can look up the ABN of any business, but most people, as usual, are unaware.

Thus, they have no authority and must use force on those who are aware and ‘disobedient’. That’s why they’re now called “Police Force”.

theobalt
theobalt
Nov 19, 2022 11:50 PM

The minute I saw news on the purchase of twatr, and the promisse of free speech I thought “Ah! They want to localize conspiracy theorists”… But how to prevent them from having a voice and convince a few people. I got my confirmation days after the purchase. Let’s send a bunch of paid trolls identifying as conspiracy t’s and have them vomit the most outrageous comments, followed immediately by celebrities (who will by miracle stubble upon said comments) and have them publicly point out to those, claiming they will leave the platform. Then the detractors of free speech and c.t.’s will have all the time to make up their mind and say “see!?, free speech is not always good and those c.t.’s are a bunch of dangerous crackpots…” etc… Twatr doesn’t have to do a thing (publicly that is)…

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Nov 19, 2022 11:38 PM

Interesting thoughts. Only I believe that your fellow beings certainly do know what freedom is. They just don’t want to go down that path, the road less travelled, the one where you have to take responsibility for your actions and the consequences.

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 19, 2022 11:16 PM
-CO
-CO
Nov 19, 2022 8:35 PM

Sam my comment has gone into spam again.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 19, 2022 9:36 PM
Reply to  -CO

Sorted that for you. A2

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 19, 2022 10:52 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Has your site been compromised?
There seems to be a lot of comments getting ‘stuck’ in pending or spam limbo.
Is there a simple explanation for that?
You run the risk of losing readers.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Nov 20, 2022 1:46 PM
Reply to  Johnny

No, you were diverting to SPAM. I don’t know quite why, it just happens sometimes. Have no fear, this site is regularly scanned by multiple third-party virus software. Obviously we strive to provide an excellent experience for our commenters, but there are many comments and our team is small. Sometimes things go awry, so try to be patient. In terms of losing readers, OFFG’s analytics have always indicated that those whose focus is mainly/solely on the comments are a statistically small (but no less significant) percentage of our readership. It’s been suggested OFFG might limit commenting and it’d run more efficiently without sacrificing much of its circulation. However, we continue to put our resources into maintaining the comments because we feel it’s staying true to the original OFFG vision, providing readers a voice, a place to reach out to one another and share info. With our viewing numbers we could… Read more »

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 21, 2022 12:43 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Thanks Sam.

ophiaps
ophiaps
Nov 19, 2022 8:05 PM

Daniel definitely got fired after this…

https://twitter.com/i/status/1593459985543041028

-CO
-CO
Nov 19, 2022 8:05 PM

Todd Heyen cites Jordan Peterson: “Systems go terribly out of control when people don’t stop them when they are going mildly out of control.” The problem at this juncture is that the so-called “systems” have already gone out of control and if the “controllers” in power have no inclination to stop the rot, it’s down to the people to do it for them. Is that going to happen? Well, the rumblings have already started at the grass roots level as more people are gradually beginning to see through the smoke and mirrors and becoming familiar with the true Law of the Land and the means by which true Justice, and their inalienable rights and freedoms (which supersede governmental statutes and regulations) can be restored. Warning: The dark forces are now out to discredit joining the Common Law Court with accusations of “infiltration” or ad hominem attacks on John Smith as… Read more »

sandy
sandy
Nov 19, 2022 7:52 PM

Let’s please disabuse ourselves of talking about a known-by-everyone 30 year+ crook who The Klub ALLOWED to become prez… https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Big-Cheat/David-Cay-Johnston/9781982178031 … He is not a victim or of value to anyone and would stab anyone in the back he felt was in his way. Instead, let’s discuss the fact that denial of First Amendment guarantees have been the history of this country, except for those classes, races and affiliations that have been privileged to access those rights. From white, propertied wealthy of 1789 some rights slowly transitioned out to others as needs and demands for rights affected mandatory concession-changes in society. These demands for human rights, to thwart being victimized and to allow equal access, has never stopped, anywhere on Earth. There were rebellions to redress grievances from the very beginning of the US on. The rich and powerful have been fought against in tax rebellions, the industrial magnates of… Read more »

les online
les online
Nov 19, 2022 7:48 PM

“Governments dont have Rights, they have Rifles.”…(anon: though i suspect it was Mousey Tung)…

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Nov 19, 2022 7:43 PM

‘I have seen situations with friends and family where a very clear evidential truth is finally presented (as is happening quite often now) and they STILL will not cry uncle, “I don’t care if it is true, I am sticking with what I believe.” It is a no-win situation.’ What the author doesn’t seem to understand is the emotional frailty of vast numbers of people, seemingly terrified of opening Pandora’s box due to a belief that life will no longer be worth living if they do. I do understand this concept as I didn’t want the reality of my family to come into sharp focus when my beliefs about what family should be about were so very different. So when I was young, I simply decamped as far away as was practicable and didn’t try and confront a family whose modus operandum during ‘debate’ was to sneer, chide, belittle and decry, never… Read more »

Johnny
Johnny
Nov 19, 2022 11:00 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Spot on Rhys.
How can we soar like eagles when we’re surrounded by ducks?
(Dare I say it: dead ducks).

-CO
-CO
Nov 20, 2022 2:44 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Johnny, the dead ducks will always remain dead ducks unless they are spurred into action for the good but very few regular posters here are forthcoming with positive peaceful suggestions to further that and don’t like critical comments at the best of times.

Repetition is the rule here which to a certain extent is unavoidable when new posters come on the scene. However, it also perhaps serves a useful purpose of expressing ‘righteous anger’ with regard to the criminals in power and the dark NWO agenda they are still pushing in this quiet war against the global population.

How do we soar like eagles? I’ve said my piece in numerous other posts so what’s your suggestions (if any)? By the way, when I usually ask that question the cyber-silence is usually deafening!

-CO
-CO
Nov 19, 2022 11:50 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Most of what you have stated sounds like an apologia for doing next to nothing Rhys. Well, the so-called “abstract politics” that you mention are no longer abstract they are knocking at your door in case you haven’t noticed and are very ‘concrete’ in practical terms! What’s more, if most people carry on the way they are going and don’t get off their asses and organize themselves quickly they won’t have to worry too much regarding a stable family home and a roof over their heads because when poverty begins to knock love starts to fly out of the window along with other things! As for social communities they need to be built at the moment that is not happening fast enough there is little informed organization and strategy to cope with what’s to come and camaraderie is not yet widespread. Immigrants have always been used as scapegoats for when… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Nov 20, 2022 8:32 AM
Reply to  -CO

An important aim of mass immigration, undermining labour unions, austerity, etc. is to drive down wages. As Prof. Michael Hudson said, this is the only factor in production that does not have an international price.

In mass immigration under any excuse, the criminals responsible are government leaders accepting the related UN treaties and legislators ratifying it by way of domestic laws.

-CO
-CO
Nov 20, 2022 10:19 AM
Reply to  mgeo

Yes, mgeo, ‘scapegoating’ re immigration is a tactic that can be used for a number of different problems caused by criminals in government. The sooner they are removed from office the better – but not replaced by those of the same ilk. Can that be done peacefully? Yes, if and only if the bulk of the population are informed as to what’s really been going on in the world and how they have been effectively deceived and conned over many years by the very people they have voted for.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Nov 20, 2022 6:10 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Starting salary in the fast food industry in California is about to move up to 47K (22 bucks per hour). Plus benefits. Why have a union? Average starting salary for a first year teacher is 41K and that is because of unions. And most have amassed huge school debt. Meanwhile, governments are relying more and more on volunteers to fill vacancies that often require a college education. At the same time, government is facilitating college tuition increases by handing out loan money to children of middle class families that don’t have the cash. Then only the extremely poor can take advantage of the tuition payback program which comes out of the middle class’s pocket. The only thing a middle class family can do is claim a limited income tax write off depending on their income bracket. Democrats have fucked things up so bad and will never stop. They are using… Read more »

niko
niko
Nov 19, 2022 6:16 PM

The language of rights was purposely perverted over the past half century as corporate class power advanced by neoliberalism and globalization targeted national sovereignty and constitutional law ostensibly protecting citizenry. As exemplified from tort law to international treaty, the rights that mattered most if at all were those of private property, not that of small enterprises which went bankrupt at a rate of over 600 per week in the U$, but that of big bizzness reaping the spoils of class war and extending the corporatization of the economy.  One of the popularized means by which the “invisible government” of corporate controlled media “pull(ed) the wires which control the public mind” (Bernays) was to recast rights as entitlements, not in any juridical sense but as a psychological fault for favoritism and privilege, even ‘rights without responsibility’ as we the people were no longer associated with citizenship but with spoiled brats, crybaby ninnies (TH),… Read more »

Freecus
Freecus
Nov 19, 2022 5:32 PM

The press may be one of the roots of the massive weed that got us into this mess […]

Private Central Banks, who loan unbacked fiat currency with interest to our Corporate governments, enable all of the downstream corruption.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Nov 19, 2022 5:23 PM

“Human Rights” was a concept developed during the latter stages of the Cold War to further differentiate “them” from “us”. Its been successfully inculcated into global populations so people now actually believe that they have innate rights because they exist. This is never the case — anyone who has even a slight knowledge of history knows that rights had to be fought for and constantly defended. Even here in the US where rights were codified there’s a constant battle to push back against their constant erosion (and once the scepter of “National Security” is raised a lot of those rights just go out of the window). Since the article mentioned North Korea as a “for instance” it would be interesting to find out what rights people living there have. We’re constantly told that they — and Chinese and whoever we don’t like this week — “have no rights” but nobody… Read more »

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Nov 19, 2022 11:45 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Just because we’ve always had to fight for our rights, doesn’t mean we do not have innate rights. Just as all living beings do. Trampling over these rights by a select few does not invalidate these rights.

Universal natural law determines everyone’s rights, not man-made laws.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Nov 19, 2022 5:12 PM

Orwell didn’t write Animal Farm for nothing. And wasn’t it Plato that first coined the term “sheeple”? Anyone who uses Twitter is a twit. Sorry if that offends anyone, but I don’t see it under any circumstance.

People are doing exactly what they’ve been trained to do. The constant misinformation screeching, which happened to have been led by Donald “King of the Vaccine” Trump, has conditioned people to accept that there must be censorship against these evil conspiracy theories, and the Alex Jones’ of the world who are hurting people’s feelings and even endangering people’s lives, so they believe. Same as anything else, being led by the nose, just as Plato suggested.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Nov 19, 2022 11:59 PM

Plato also wrote the Allegory of the Cave to describe the prison of false perception that most people are stuck in.

The story goes something like this:

There were prisoners living in a cave who could only see one particular wall of the cave due to the chains that held them in that orientation.

Behind them was a fire they could not see, and people and animals walked past between the flames and the prisoners, casting shadows against the wall. These shadows were the entire world to these prisoners. Some of these prisoners ‘studied’ these shadows and became acknowledged ‘experts’ on perceived reality.

Dan
Dan
Nov 20, 2022 3:11 PM

Totally agree. People think the earth is about to come to an end if anything happens to Twitter. FFS it’s just a social media platform and part of the mind control grid in my view. They shut my account about a year ago for no apparent reason so I’ve said FU then, and I can’t say I miss it…

Nick Baam
Nick Baam
Nov 19, 2022 4:20 PM

Hey, man — didn’t you hear? Kyrie Irving did “great harm” to a lot of people, according to Lebron James, last seen sitting on the bench wearing a ridiculous Ruth Bader Ginsburg collar.

entitled2
entitled2
Nov 19, 2022 3:42 PM

Your fuckd from the get go. Human rights. define human in the legal sense.???? As we’ve been brought up on there language’s indoctrinated in to there system’s code edicts. When alt media discuss;s freedom of speech sigh, yet was willing to only let the logged in able to vote and NONE of the hardcore outspoken commentators members said f*ck all. Did the big mouth article writers.? did they fuk to scared. Go on Richie Allen or any of them lot i.e David Icke etc and mentioned where did the equipment or money go from the people voice, or Holly Gregg. They cancel just as quickly as the MSM lot. Now wear your mask and stand on that spot slave BTW whats your birth certification number whilst you have theses invisible rights – human rights LOL- freedom of speech argument which is retarded. 90+% of you still want to be governed… Read more »

theobalt
theobalt
Nov 20, 2022 12:45 AM
Reply to  entitled2

Being Windows it didn’t work.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Nov 20, 2022 1:48 PM
Reply to  theobalt

In Windows you need to reformat the hard drive……….

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 20, 2022 4:39 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

Yep… and we’re surrounded with reformatted hard drives

Howard
Howard
Nov 19, 2022 3:31 PM

Here’s an instance of so egregious an overreach that a basic freedom is trampled – yet almost no one would see it that way. It involves Comcast. Two months ago they stopped sending paper statements – no advance notice, just an email giving October’s amount. I was able to print out the actual statement and pay from that. October’s payment was fine. But November’s has not been posted. True, I’m assuming it wasn’t lost in the mail – that Concast simply chooses not to post it. In other words: to FORCE me to pay electronically. I don’t mind paying electronically – but I prefer to pay by check. Don’t I have a right to pay a bill as I see fit? Who is Concast to tell me my check’s no good any longer? Because of this I’m seriously considering dropping the Internet (FIOS is the only other provider in my… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
Nov 19, 2022 4:46 PM
Reply to  Howard

When did it get changed around? When pushy people became push notifications!

Howard
Howard
Nov 19, 2022 10:09 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

For years I’ve been saying that the single most important thing ordinary people could do would be to create a Consumer Terms of Service – which any company wishing our business must agree to.

Yeah, they can easily ignore a few or even a few hundred consumers refusing to use their service. But they cannot ignore millions.

I think it’s just a matter of time till governments have their own overt Terms of Service – covertly they do already. Things we must agree to if we’re to use their “service.” And we are being primed to accept it as “part of doing business.”

Arthur Foxake
Arthur Foxake
Nov 19, 2022 10:58 PM
Reply to  Howard

Hi Howard,
I’ve been involved with the internet since the early days and even back at the beginning of the 1980s the powers that be were talking about shifting all transactions to the net, creating cashless societies and through those things and enhanced surveiilance being able to influence and control our bahaviour by controlling our gadgets. It was just a question of wailing until the net was so deeply entrenched in our lives we would not be able to complain when all other choices were removed.
Though habitually suspicious of authority I was at the time foolish enough to think this was just another example of wealthy, powerful control freaks talking bollocks.

theobalt
theobalt
Nov 20, 2022 12:57 AM
Reply to  Howard

If it’s any consolation, the glue on those envelopes will probably poisonous if not already.

Howard
Howard
Nov 20, 2022 4:41 PM
Reply to  theobalt

I haven’t licked an envelope since I saw a Seinfeld episode where George’s fiancee died after licking the envelopes containing their wedding invitations.

Theobalt
Theobalt
Nov 20, 2022 4:43 PM
Reply to  Howard

Is that where I got this… hun

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Nov 20, 2022 4:22 PM
Reply to  Howard

The same “policy” change occurred with Frontier phone and internet services last year. The consumer is no longer notified of service changes, and electronic payments are strongly advertised.

Just more corporate twats expressing their lust for control over every. fucking. thing.

Mucho
Mucho
Nov 19, 2022 3:09 PM

All of our problems stem from the same root – our world is controlled by a bunch of criminal scumbags. Everything they touch turns to shit. The entire human race is being controlled by the most disgusting no soul people you could ever imagine. The kind of folk who employ Matt Hancock to engineer the murder of tens of thousands of elderly people in order to create a mass of fake convid death numbers to create the fake news to generate the right level of terror in the population to then coerce blackmail and bully people into being injected with something which will screw their health up forever. Those people. The people who control the British Government, for example. We can do better than this. Just a small example of the kind of world we are missing out on because of these pieces of dirt, on the theme of technology… Read more »

Mucho
Mucho
Nov 19, 2022 3:15 PM
Reply to  Mucho

“I IDENTIFY AS TRANSVACCINATED.”
https://www.bitchute.com/video/7Q3qyseunEiG

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Nov 20, 2022 1:40 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Announce that in San Francisco and they will award you with a steady income. Homeless trannies have been declared as most at risk and deserve special protections over and above other members of the homeless community.

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Nov 19, 2022 6:55 PM
Reply to  Mucho

These stories about ‘suppressed technologies’ have been around for decades. Yet no-one ever seems able to produce a working prototype of the sort of wunder-machinen that the sci-fi devotees believe in so ardently. Like any reasonable person, I’ll believe it when someone can show me one; that can be inspected in detail by engineers and scientists, to work out just how it does its wunder-stuff.

theobalt
theobalt
Nov 20, 2022 1:05 AM
Reply to  Mucho

There was a complete video a few years ago showing some American in his suburb powering his pickup truck with a hydrogen cell fed by water… he just drove off down the street with his vehicle at the end… All you need is start the generator with a small batterie initially, then the cell propels the car and recharge the battery of course. I think it consumed a gallon of water per 400 miles or something that ridiculous

Dan
Dan
Nov 20, 2022 3:30 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Love it. I think the only whole Tartaria rabbit hole is really interesting. Imagine if we could start harnessing etheric energy ourselves. We could totally reject all these scumbag governments and their overpriced energy bs. That would absolutely be taking back control…

j d
j d
Nov 19, 2022 3:01 PM

The rights you, have are the rights you, can express. If you, cannot express it, then you have no rights. Legal is implied; law is expressed; If it is not spelt the same; it does not mean the same thing;

What you, have is property: that which is proper to you; that which you, can claim exclusive to all others in a society; which is what you, have the right to set the law for; it is the highest right you, have; and the foundation of every right you, have;

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 19, 2022 2:58 PM

I’m playing devil’s advocate here, but it’s very much up for debate what “rights” really are. For example, most of our modern sense of morality, justice, ethics and sense of right and wrong is built upon a Judeo-Christian tradition as expounded by the Bible and other scriptures. Yet the only place in the Bible where you will find anything like, “And God saith unto Norman and his friends, ye shall have dominion over Fred and his kin, because you are obedient, while Fred and his progeny think for themselves”, is in the Old Testament. I don’t recall Jesus saying a single word about ‘rights’, despite the fact that He had something to say about practically everything else. Like any sane person, I refuse to accept that my ‘rights’, such as they are, have been given to me by the likes of Schwab, Gates, Fauci, Hancock, Johnson, May, Truss, Biden, Trump,… Read more »

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Nov 19, 2022 3:14 PM
Reply to  wardropper

The US Bill of rights does a pretty good job of defining what is meant and understood as “rights”.

Being an amendment to the constitution, it obviously came about to address what were seen as injustices and codified them so that it was clear what you could expect from the state (Or states)

Can we really hope for any more than a consensus on what is right and wrong ?

wardropper
wardropper
Nov 19, 2022 9:56 PM

I was aiming at a more fundamental definition of ‘rights’ than an American document from a mere couple of hundred years ago. After all, the US wasn’t the first nation to respect human values or to strive for valid moral definitions. I wasn’t really aiming at a ‘consensus’ either, since what people generally agree upon isn’t necessarily right from a wider philosophical viewpoint. As I said, Nuremberg is good enough for me as a working model, but what I was looking for was a broad, even universal, definition of rights that can stand its ground in an intelligent argument, without needing any Founding Fathers – along with their traditions, prejudices and unavoidable preferences – to support it. In other words, back to real basics, and to my mind, that goes back to Biblical times. Even George Carlin, in his extremely irreverent way, pointed to a serious search for the truth… Read more »

Dan
Dan
Nov 20, 2022 3:41 PM
Reply to  wardropper

I’d say English common law is a good place to start. It is inherently permissive in that it’s starting point is everything is allowed unless otherwise stated, as opposed to Roman law which is the reverse in that it is understood that rights are given by authorities and a be taken away at will. The problems in England really began when the primacy of parliamentary law over common law was acknowledged and accepted….

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Nov 19, 2022 2:26 PM

From the article: “Whether Trump’s entire negative persona as president was fabricated by the press or not (I certainly doubt if all of it was) those on the left still responded as if it was a formidable problem, and of course still do.”

Donald Trump didn’t need any help from the press. Every time he opened his mouth, the negative persona glittered like a falling star…

Victor G.
Victor G.
Nov 19, 2022 4:50 PM

I still can’t believe he didn’t have a war named after him! Only president in, what, 70-170-245 years to accomplish this feat … A serious and unUSAmerican failing. Bad Donald!

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Nov 19, 2022 1:50 PM

Demanding free speech will put you in the same category as those believing in lizard people.

Because we demand free speech at the same time as demanding, for example, that people look at vaxx damage stats, the two are lumped together and, of course, anyone who demands clarity on vaxx damage also believes in lizard people.

Duckman
Duckman
Nov 19, 2022 4:11 PM

And when the symphony is played an ocatave out it sounds like a racket….

ickky and pals are allowed to play slghtly off tune to make it hard to decipher the notes, one gets the general “din” but it makes tuning in much harder

Victor G.
Victor G.
Nov 19, 2022 12:11 PM

As far as the USAmerican’s power elites are concerned, they only ever considered “democracy” a limited hangout … and time’s up.

Willem
Willem
Nov 19, 2022 12:10 PM

‘With freedom comes responsibility, and today it seems no one is willing to take on any responsibility.’ Not sure about ‘no one’, but agree to a large degree with the statement and it’s a good statement that one can use when he is looking at the mirror. Rights are a luxury that are felt as not really necessary as long as one’s own standard of living is high. Salon socialists always talk about rights and how others should have rights too and blablabla, but at the same time consider it completely normal that they can drive around in electric cars while children and young adults in third world countries slave around among sulphuric acid mines to get the ‘ingredient’ for their batteries that run the salon socialist’s car. And that is just one example of how unfair the distribution of wealth is and always has been. I wish that everyone… Read more »

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Nov 19, 2022 1:27 PM
Reply to  Willem

You are right, I should not have written “no one”…

rechenmacher
rechenmacher
Nov 21, 2022 4:20 PM
Reply to  Willem

Archipel GULAG on a global scale.

M Le Docteur Ralph
M Le Docteur Ralph
Nov 19, 2022 11:21 AM

In Europe we have no access to RT and various other Russian websites. How does that fit in with our rights:

European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms:
Article 10 – Freedom of expression
1 Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.

Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union
Article 11
Freedom of expression and information
1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers.
2. The freedom and pluralism of the media shall be respected.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Nov 19, 2022 12:12 PM

You are 100% right, mon Docteur. Luckily, with a little persistence, you can find work arounds. That said, the censorship is intolerable.

Dan
Dan
Nov 20, 2022 3:55 PM

Don’t know if you can still download it, but I got the RT app as soon as the censorship bs started and it still works fine…

rechenmacher
rechenmacher
Nov 21, 2022 4:23 PM

RT has published URLs for alternative access. Not hard to find. Sputnik, however, seems to be gone.

Carl Engelbrecht
Carl Engelbrecht
Nov 19, 2022 11:08 AM

Explain to all the millions of children and people trafficked across the plane[t], and killed, they have rights as a human. D’oh!

Duckman
Duckman
Nov 19, 2022 4:12 PM

its enough to do your dome in

Howard
Howard
Nov 19, 2022 10:00 PM

You bring a double edged sword to the forum. Those who talk the loudest about “rights” (i.e., the Five Eyes nations, which are rapidly losing theirs) are the most likely to ignore the “rights” of those outside the English speaking world.

If they have something we want and need, and if we perceive their “rights” as obstacles to our getting it…they thereby forfeit those “rights.”