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Zooming Our Way Into Oblivion

Todd Hayen

Photo by Andrew Neel on Unsplash

Look at all of the wonders that technology has brought us! I am certainly not going to start listing them here; it would take volumes to come up with even a partial list. We can bask in the marvels that technology has made for us in our modern world.

What would we do without this special form of human know-how?

That being said, there is a shadow to everything, and people are just as familiar with this darker side of technology as they are with the brighter side.

Needless to say, we have been inundated with the disasters of our insatiable desire to create conglomerations of various individual components that when properly animated with some sort of power source “do” something that we find useful, exciting, and entertaining—or deadly.

Most of this inundation comes from fanciful science fiction stories about killer robots and strange mechanical implants or, the most horrific addition to this plethora of “bots gone bad”—nanotechnology—tiny cell-sized, or even smaller, mechanical creatures that can penetrate the inner sanctums of our body and wreak a special sort of bedlam.

We have been slowly approaching an era where AI will become the primary way of life—we will live under the authority of a technocracy. Humankind will be just a whisper in some octogenarian’s late night dreams. Humankind will be gone.

Not so fast, in the words of alt-news hero James Corbett:

Here’s a great big white pill for you: the technocratic system of tyranny is going to fail. This is not wishful thinking; it’s a cold statement of fact. Technocracy, in all its facets—from the UN’s 2030 Agenda to the brain chips and AI godheads of the transhumanists to the CBDC social credit surveillance state—is anti-human. It goes against nature itself. It cannot work in the long run, and it is destined to fail.”

I wish I could be so optimistic. I cannot.

I remember in a past life I was a Hollywood film composer (no, not THAT sort of “past life,” just a long time ago). This memory goes back to about 1982. I showed up to a music scoring date and found the control room empty. Everyone was gathered around the keyboard player on the soundstage who had brought in the newest fangled keyboard sensation called the E-Mu Emulator.

“The way of the future,” people were saying as Clark Gassman, the keyboardist at the session, played a few licks of music using the violin sample. The string section wasn’t impressed, “have it play this!” was shouted out from the back of the room as one of the violinists effortlessly performed a dizzying dance on his instrument’s fingerboard.

It was a particularly difficult passage of Paganini. Everyone laughed, but it was a strained laugh, as most knew when some technological brainchild started its march into the future it left a lot of bodies in its wake.

Sure enough, it did. Although not quite yet perfected, advances in music sampling over the next few decades after that faithful day in Hollywood have indeed put a lot of musicians out of work. Needless to say, that is a common result as the march of technology carves its way through the human landscape.

As good as it is in emulating human artistry, though, it is never quite as good…but eventually people forget how good it was at one time, and even the memory whispers of the “good ol’ days” eventually fades away.

Technology, as it relates to the humans who develop greater and greater ways to replace themselves, is like a snake eating itself. No one seems to be the wiser, in the name of efficiency (both temporal and financial), humans will always take the brunt of it.

Should humans do away with technology entirely? Of course not. But there is something about being conscious, being connected with a deeper and divine “purpose and meaning” and not being so consumer focused that is significant in importance. We need to be a bit more aware of the impact certain advances in technology may have.

Kurt Vonnegut, the sweetheart of “aware young people” of my generation, wrote a book titled Player Piano. It is quite excellent. In it he describes a war against technology (primarily to get jobs back for the working class—it was written before the electronic revolution).

The last few lines will send chills up your spine if you can find the time to read it.

Human curiosity, combined with some strange innate drive to build a better mousetrap, seems to continuously get us into trouble, as more and more machines (an old term, I know) suck the soul out of humanity. This part of our ignorance (and tail eating) is not the major problem in today’s world. The major problem is that some elite group of very evil people have found that dangling the techno-carrot in front of hypnotized humans can be very effective in brainwashing the masses.

There are dozens of ways they are doing this: the pseudo-science behind the virus, the vaccine, and everything related to the great hoax of the 21st Century. Cellphones, iPads, Apps for every possible form of distraction, video games, screens, screens, screens. Self-driving cars, AI art, sampled music, virtual reality, on and on and on and on. There are so many examples of this mind manipulation through technology it is mesmerizing.

But I am going to focus on only one example. Zooming/virtual meetings/virtual classrooms, and anything else that smacks of keeping people in their houses and not mingling with fellow human beings where they can experience their kin in analog—touching, seeing, hearing, smelling, all from countless perspectives, in 3D.

Next to wearing masks and social distancing, virtual reality and the intended avoidance of human contact in a visceral context, is the greatest assault to humanity yet on record. And no one cares.

In fact, they like it. It is easy (red flag number one, as nothing “easy” ever is of much import), fun because it satisfies that odd human nature to excitedly engage in technology (“fun” is the other red flag of meaninglessness). “Fun” and “easy” are not bad at the right time and place, but they are destructively addictive if engaged in unconsciously.

I have noticed here in Ontario the rage currently is online psychotherapy…and now even online medical doctors. There probably isn’t anything that plunges the dagger into the healing power of human interaction than having medical doctors and psychologists seeing their patients on a screen. And everyone loves it, practitioners and patients alike.

Even I was into this idea when it first became available (I will admit, there is a time and place for this sort of intervention, but again in my humble opinion, the price is way too high to pay if it becomes a norm for convenience’s sake—and especially if it is part of this nefarious agenda to dehumanize humans, which I believe it is).

I used to participate in a Crop Circle conference held in the picturesque Wiltshire hills of rural England. A small hotel in a small town called Devizes was the setting. Meeting with like minded attendees in the restaurant of the old world hotel before the conference, wandering around the beautiful country fields looking for fresh crop circles, and laughing with new found friends at a local pub was certainly the appeal.

These experiences cannot be replaced with a virtual conference, which this event has now become.

Even meetings next to the proverbial water cooler in an office environment are largely a thing of the past. Sitting in front of a screen to do your work, or meet with family and friends, or business colleagues, is a slow death of the spirit. This simply cannot be sustainable—yet it will be attempted, things never go back as they were if technology is allowed to lumber along, sucking in and destroying anything of any real value in its path.

Live violins never came back to the degree they were in Hollywood studios before 1980. The unbelievable skill level and divine talent of so many human musicians is now rare compared to the presence of these attributes in previous generations.

The soul is slowly being sucked out of everything. And now it is consciously and purposefully being stripped away—masks, social exclusions, work from home in front of a computer screen, medical doctors online, and schools offering virtual only classrooms—all in the name of convenience, economics, and efficiency (as well as in the name of the New World Order).

It is a central part of a very subtle aspect of the agenda to strip away human dignity, human connection, and human soul. What better way is there to create a world of zombie-like, compliant, and soulless labourers? This is what we are experiencing, right now.

Todd Hayen is a registered psychotherapist practicing in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. He holds a PhD in depth psychotherapy and an MA in Consciousness Studies. He specializes in Jungian, archetypal, psychology. Todd also writes for his own substack, which you can read here

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Hugh O’Neill
Hugh O’Neill
Dec 5, 2022 8:46 PM

So what actually causes crop circles? Could they be the traces a fertility dance in the fields after a couple too many West Country ciders? I lost 95 minutes of my life last night attending a Zoom meeting, the main thrust of which was their glacial building of consensus as to whether to hold the Christmas Carols at the community church, or cancel because of Covid. One of the Zoomers was even wearing a mask (them viruses can get into computers too doncha know?). Finally, they asked me for my opinion. I said I fully understood their fears, but that I had no fear of Covid, having a fully functioning God-given immune system. That I would host, run, compère the event. They gave me their blessing but will excuse themselves from attending. Any suggestions please for which carols and which readings?

Binra
Binra
Dec 5, 2022 3:05 PM

Technologism can be sourced back to the use of thought to define an image of self in terms of predictive control, as persistence of a self-reinforcement.

In our sense of a world we can see this as subordination of all else to possession and control, or marketising and weaponising. Self-interest runs for ‘getting’ a sense of self-lack boosted, vindicated or made real.

Such a focus or ‘consciousness’ is then a means for development and a tool for exploration.

While the Whole Mind from which we engage our own ‘creations’ is discarded or set unconscious by the drive to experience ‘our life’, through filters and rules that project unmindfully, such as to react to and identify our results as if at the hand of another.

Notice the reversal of cause and effect that becomes obvious as our life is sacrificed to our tool-mind and its explicated infrastructure of support that becomes a prison.

Rogerthecat
Rogerthecat
Dec 5, 2022 2:54 PM

I think that one should make a distinction between technology per se and technocracy which is the human manifestation of technology. Science and technology can be used for good, but in the Neo-Fascist, corporatist West it is used against humanity or any group that opposes its use for that purpose. You can blame American exceptionalism for this or the Neoconservative doctrine where competing nations, economies, cultures and political views must be eliminated as there can only be one victorious nation and one version of history.

Ohwga
Ohwga
Dec 5, 2022 1:24 AM

Yes, I largely agree with you. Technology’s influence into society’s everyday life has now reached a point where society may self-destruct. The separation of individuals, the separation from nature, the separation of control over our own bodies, they harvest and monetize the ego-you and separate it from the real you. All the same agenda. Control.
A few years ago I attended a live musical event in a small club. While the band played, three young women walked into the club. They were all looking down at their cell phones barely noticing their surroundings. They proceeded to sit at a table near the band. For about an hour they all sat there staring at their cell phones, not even speaking with each other, and never acknowledging the band. Seemingly, without a word they all stood up left. I wondered why they even bothered to go out? What was the point? Sadly, I see similar behavior everywhere.   

niko
niko
Dec 4, 2022 9:30 PM

“The machine-like behavior of people chained to electronics constitutes a degradation of their well-being and of their dignity which, for most people in the long run, becomes intolerable. Observations of the sickening effect of programmed environments show that people in them become indolent, impotent, narcissistic and apolitical. The political process breaks down because people cease to be able to govern themselves; they demand to be managed.”

“(We) must choose whether to be rich in things or in the freedom to use them.”

—Ivan Illich

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Dec 4, 2022 9:57 PM
Reply to  niko

Very good…thanks…

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 4, 2022 11:16 PM
Reply to  niko

However, I know several people who are pretty tech averse and still they demand to be managed. The origin of not wanting to develop your own sovereignty as a being lies somewhere else I believe.

niko
niko
Dec 5, 2022 4:47 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

True that. Just don’t think it helps.

Fyi: Stare Into the Lights My Pretties https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/stare-into-lights-my-pretties/

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 4, 2022 9:21 PM

Something that seems to be seldom mentioned is that replacing office work with wfh typically involves a transfer of wealth from employee to employer. While working at the office, the employer has to pay for heating and energy during the working day. People working from home have to heat and power their homes during the time they are at work. Thus the employee pays more, while the employer saves. That this is happening during a time of record energy prices only magnifies the effects. I doubt very much that many employers are going to bother to return their savings to their employees.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Dec 4, 2022 9:34 PM
Reply to  Chicot

Good lord! I can’t believe I didn’t think of this! Thank you so much for bringing it up…

However…how do these big companies afford to continually pay rent for their high rise office space?

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 4, 2022 10:20 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

My guess is that many of them will downsize, as has the company I work for.

Velvet Revolution
Velvet Revolution
Dec 5, 2022 1:04 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Some big companies need the tax write-off for the office expenses, or for the purpose of laundering money, as is most likely the case with my former employer (a Belarusian company with two floors of offices in a prime district of Prague).

mArkus
mArkus
Dec 4, 2022 2:52 PM

Cheer up Mr Haydn. Maybe Russia will come to the rescue.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Dec 4, 2022 9:58 PM
Reply to  mArkus

Who is Mr. Haydn? The composer?

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Dec 4, 2022 2:05 PM

Satan rules this world but God wins. Everything is a test of faith. We pay attention to what the Devil is doing but we do not ‘dwell’ with him more than we do with God.

Edwige
Edwige
Dec 4, 2022 12:34 PM

They know localism is a popular cry now so expect to see lots of fake localism. Oh look:

https://dumptheguardian.com/politics/2022/dec/04/the-journey-towards-a-fairer-britain-starts-now

The idea that former WEF YGL and pathological centraliser Gordon Brown is going to come up with a recipe for genuine localism would be amusing if it wasn’t so serious. Otherwise it’s very short on specifics at this stage. Genuine localism is inherently contradictory to notions of equitableness because localities will decide to do things differently – yet Labour’s whole history has been one of shrieking “post code lottery!” at the first signs of divergence.

This line caught my attentions: “it is part of the social contract of our country that people and places are able to realise their potential”. Oh yes – where exactly did anyone sign up to this? Re-writing the social contract turns out to be another idea of the WEF and Klaus Schwab. The whole idea of a social contract is a fiction invented by British “liberals”. ‘Realising your potential’ can mean anything and justify anything. It’s equality of opportunity re-packaged as was Blair’s “education, education, education” (a quote taken from a secret society occultist by the way). It’s also the old concept of ‘positive liberty’. That idea was invented by T.H. Green who turns out to be another ‘liberal’ with secret society and deep Establishment links. The actual term was coined by Isaiah Berlin who worked directly for British intelligence. It was all designed to re-define freedom as not being simply left alone. The inate human desire for freedom had to be perverted into something that could be reconciled with secret society plans and so it was.

Beneath all that, there’s also the usual masterful speaking going on where they don’t mean what they appear to be saying. What do they really believe the potential of most people to be? Somewhere between worker bees and sheep….

William Sabre
William Sabre
Dec 4, 2022 8:27 AM

“We can bask in the marvels that technology has made for us in our modern world.”

There is no such thing as a modern world; it’s always been modern; and its inventions have always been trying to stop time or dissociate everyone from the inevitabilities of life; distract them; anaesthetise them; take up their time or simplify tasks; absorb their attention; hypnotise them; the old inventions did it better than the crass facile superficial inventions we now have; literally a computer game or tv only works while its on; that’s probably why they stream constant b*llsh*t nonstop; but a myth or legend told by the warmth of a fire will play for years inside a man’s mind because it engages the IMAGINATION; it personalises the experience.

The technocracy is impersonal; soulless, it tells the mind what to mold, to experience; it bypasses our IMAGINATION, most westerners don’t realise they’ve lost touch with their own soul but they have. Like all life; they’re a product of their environment.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Dec 4, 2022 2:46 PM
Reply to  William Sabre

Couldn’t have said it better….thank you!

krzltf
krzltf
Dec 4, 2022 6:17 AM

Nice piece, Todd. All very well said.

The truth is, anyone who thinks getting ruled by whatever kind of technical device or program is a good idea and will work well is not just a soulless zombie but also a brainless fool.
And for the answer to the question why this is, you don’t even need to study any ideologies or conspiracy theories. Just try actually using some of those demonic devices to do … well … anything:
THEY CAN’T EVEN FUNCTION PROPERLY!
Whenever you try to do something, there will be this or that problem.

Laying humanity’s or the world’s future in into such hands is just a reaaaally bad idea.
So ultimately I’m with Corbett. Artificial Idiocy will not prevail, because failure is already built in their systems.
Nature is love, Machines have no love. Only love can win,

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Dec 4, 2022 2:50 PM
Reply to  krzltf

Very nicely put! I laughed out loud when you said “they can’t even function properly”…that is so true, and it seems to me that is becoming more of a problem. I seem to spend more time fiddling with function when things go awry…and these days more to do with passwords, authentications, codes being sent to emails, texts, etc to just use the online functions with the bank, or whatever else I have been forced to use. There is no such thing as “software” any more…talk about “one day you won’t own anything, and you’ll be happy”…my ass. That day is clearly now when it comes to music, media, software, etc…I digress…

Thanks for your great comment…

les online
les online
Dec 4, 2022 3:43 AM

You’ve seen them, the little ones, lying in their prams, facing forward, looking to the distance with dull eyes, arms flaying excitedly, burbling, gurgling and no one listening…
Sometimes they hold an object, a toy, but mostly they’re just lying there, glum, uninterested in where they’re going… As you pass them your eyes might meet, momentarily, fleetingly, but they evince no curiosity in you. They’re in training, some will be diagnosed as autistic, some diagnosed with ADHD, and so on…Tomorrow’s Kikikomori…
Their carers, pushing the prams, are nearly always preoccupied talking to little black boxes they hold close to their ears…

‘…the…avoidance of human contact in a visceral context, is the greatest assault to humanity yet…’ says the author…

Another author says:
‘The schizophrenic in infancy sent his lively visual energy motherward and, failing to receive her warm visual response in return, learned – by shutting off his eyes – to avoid the frustration of reaching out and feeling nothing. His eyes function sufficiently to prevent his bumping into objects, but all the lively, emotional uses of seeing are gone…When you look at his eyes and attempt to see him deeply, your eyes tend to become unfocused, as they do when looking at rippled water. When you try to make emotional contact – your eyes to his – you look and seek; he is not there.’
(Emotional Armoring…Morton Herskowitz.2008. (p39)…

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 4, 2022 7:00 AM
Reply to  les online

The phones affect the baby, especially through the father’s sperm. Guess what 5G will do directly. The tens of thousands of pervasive poisons also undermine the baby.

This is like a deadly obstacle course; the challeng is to live with the dangers your overlords create. I envisage a giant database that holds the ratings for everyone’s mind and body; if you don’t make the grade, you get “reprocessed”.

Matt
Matt
Dec 4, 2022 1:44 AM

ATTENTION! WARNING!
The social engineering apparatchiks of the Dictatorship of the Bureautariat have now isolated, developed and released a new class of highly-virulent, and deadly, phantom DTD’s (Digitally Transmitted Diseases) that enter involuntarily through the optic nerves and aural canals.
BEWARE!

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Dec 5, 2022 4:51 AM
Reply to  Matt

Good one.
Too many People are working from Home. Get back to Work ya lazy gits!
From The Water, Gas Electric Farting Collection Agency.
‘We are Committed to a Better World’
Blink blink

teapot
teapot
Dec 4, 2022 1:41 AM

The controllers fear what they cannot control. All that is random, untamed, wild, free is beyond their reach. This they cannot tolerate. It feeds their psychopathy, leaving them feeling weaker, disempowered. So, they must devise methods to instill their projected fear, to destroy, to kill.

But people are not animals, we cannot do easily be broken and then raised up as desired. Mind control and behaviour modification of billions must employ subtleties and nuance. For this, they have turned to tech, to code.

Unlike all that is natural, above and below, coders have not cannot write or create anything truly random, all must be ordered, specified.

So I agree, the total societal control vector will ultimately fail. All we have to do to remain unborged is stay true to our natural born selves, stay wild in our inate right of free will and never exchange courage for fear.

niko
niko
Dec 4, 2022 12:08 AM

One of the most ridiculous examples I’ve come across among the ridiculous repertoire making up the plandemic is people blissfully isolated under house arrest carrying on zoom meetings while wearing masks. Typically, these were laptop professionals, aka useful idiots, especially the woke variety, modeling the au courant pretenses of educated classes and commiserating over sacrifices they endured in comfort to ‘flatten the curve’ long after the forgotten two-week deadline, occasionally ‘sharing’ a glass of wine with other zoomers. If there existed common practices to weigh gains and losses of technology in our techno-idolatrous society, such a scene might (further) tip the scales, were they not overseen by these gatekeepers, toward the dumbed-down effects which emanate from most any electronic source of control over the masses.

The principal reason critical appraisal of technology is lacking is that contemporary technology, and related scientific-industrial complexes, are rooted in (fascist) corporate state agenda furthering the fortunes of class elites. Science gets sold to us under all sorts of pretense of the common good and general welfare, but only to cover for the far greater benefits it brings to the interests of ruling powers, not least of all in being able to rule us all the better. But since class consciousness, tantamount to conspiracy theory, has been particularly targeted by brainwashing techniques, technology exists at large as a scattered accumulation of tools that seem to be extensions of ourselves rather than vice versa, a disconnected assortment of gadgets that add up to living in a steady stream of conveniences and hassles rather than an ensemble and ecology of social engineering. 

There are times and circumstances when the next new gilded (c)age cannot so easily be sold us, as now in the new abnormal when our masters must dispense with the old on a grander scale of opportune crisis and engage us in fifth generation warfare. Necessity is the mother of invention, and convention, and the necessity of war, to defend ‘our’ way of life, is the classic go-to solution for those who systemically make problems for the rest of us with their inevitable schemes of progress to steer history and human affairs down their paths of destruction. If the current technocratic takeover is believed to be practically impossible, the longstanding precedence of rational irrationality, insanity, and injustice comprising civilization under class rule should at least caution us against casually dismissing the possibility of crimes against humanity committed on an unprecedented scale.

The machine is as old as civilization “originat(ing) in conquest abroad and repression at home” (Stanley Diamond). It’s the machinery of production by the many for the few that makes us its first cogs as the resources of labor necessary to complete the pyramid schemes from pharaohs to banksters who constitute the organized crime. AI is the Frankenbrain for the ultimate machine, aka the Borg, that now looms on the horizon of evolution as the final solution to the class war that’s plagued what’s passed for human history; compliments of fully weaponized technology, from 5G and the internet of things and bodies to biotech to completely colonize us down to our genes, that will climax the bloody march of progress with a slavery undreamt of since all the madness began.

Suffering a lack of human scales of meaning in the machine, we’re led to reduce human relations to screened prisons, learning to data-driven exchanges by ghosts in the machine.  Technology to serve us by virtue of more egalitarian relations could make for a very different, decentralized, small-is-beautiful world than that masterminded by monsters of power over the many. But to get there will require a liberation from captivity to class-based social systems all too few among the many of us seem willing to consider, let alone dare, in these latter days of civilization.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 4, 2022 7:21 AM
Reply to  niko

AI entails these:
:- assumptions (in programs)
:- “neural networks”, the working of which are opaque
:- culturally and politically biased data used to train the AI
:- lots of money changing hands
:- evasion or censorship of resulting injustices
:- option for governments to claim neutrality for decisions.

Sebastian
Sebastian
Dec 4, 2022 4:42 PM
Reply to  niko

Really good post, nico.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Dec 4, 2022 10:00 PM
Reply to  niko

Very nice…!!

Pawel
Pawel
Dec 3, 2022 11:47 PM

Digital computers won’t threaten us . At least this is the conclusion of this book:

The Emperor’s New Mind: Concerning Computers, Minds and The Laws of Physics is a 1989 book by the mathematical physicist Sir Roger Penrose.

But the problem is that there are people who want to use them to enslave the population. SO although the machine is stupid , it is being sold as capable panacea.

obsean
obsean
Dec 3, 2022 9:49 PM

As a keyboardist myself i agree in part to the idea that the real thing cannot be equalled with a sample, but genius’s like Stevie Wonder or Vangelis can sure bring synthesized sounds into an aural world which is equally intriguing and beautiful, and though the source is electronic they can add something which creates a blend of tech and soulfulness.There was often a debate in the synth world that analogue pre 1990s was superior to digital because of the sound of the filters, but although this is true, amazingly performances have come out sample based digital machines.

Mucho
Mucho
Dec 4, 2022 12:49 PM
Reply to  obsean

Intriguing and beautiful. I would say this ticks those boxes:

FSOL | Lifeforms 1994 | Disc One – YouTube

Mixing up electronic music with human generated sound produces amazing results. It all depends on who is making the music, ie the soul out of which the music emerges. But something that is extremely important is that musicianship is celebrated and nurtured. It’s always moving forward I guess, Youtube connects learners with pros easily, and where music has been deleted by the scum running the media, like when they deleted MTV2 (MTV doesn’t even play music any more it’s just a load of teen reality show tripe) which was a very good station. They got rid of John Peel who even when they got rid of him, had the best ratings among R1’s target audience. They destroy what is good on this Earth. It is time for the human race to stand up and destroy the system and people who are doing this to us. Satanic evil scum that they are.

The great thing is we can have it all. Analogue and digital. We preserve the warmth of analogue, and things like vinyl, but also embrace the possibilities that digital offers – possibilities to make sound that simply cannot be made using analogue. There is no need to limit our creativity. But there will always be something untouchable, about the soul of man, coming out through music. John Martyn, one of the UK’s finest ever, he really knew how to make great music and fully embraced synths as he moved his sound forward. Having said that, nothing can touch the acoustic originals……

Bless The Weather – YouTubeg

Sound Shapes Matter
Sound Shapes Matter
Dec 4, 2022 5:32 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Well said.Nice to see a John Martyn fan on here too.’Small Hours’ always sends me.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 3, 2022 9:18 PM

This sentence is your article in a nutshell: “The soul is slowly being sucked out of everything.”

My feeling exactly.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 4, 2022 7:33 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

In “Country of the Blind” by HG Wells, the tribe of blind people finds it disturbing that one person claims to have “eyes” that “see” around him. Finally, they put him out of his misery by plucking out his eyes.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 4, 2022 11:19 PM
Reply to  mgeo

That sounds ominous. It can be likened to those of the C-vaxxed who were calling out to the ‘authorities’ to force the unvaxxed and unmasked into containment of some sort. I do believe that we have more to fear from the blind masses than the few at the top with their perverse agendas.

Mike
Mike
Dec 4, 2022 1:12 AM
Reply to  Mike

This sick creature comes from the
same area as the rescuing Antje.
He meant less well with his pati-
ents. The perfect kill-vaccinator!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_H%C3%B6gel

NickM
NickM
Dec 3, 2022 8:37 PM

Chorus from Antigone, by Sophocles:

“Wonders abound in this world yet none more wonderful than Man.
Through the wild white of frenzied sea and through the screaming northerlies beneath them,
Through all the furious storms, humankind pass.

Humans work Gods’ most glorious Earth, the imperishable Earth,
Work it with horses and ploughs, year in, year out,
Trap generations of light-minded birds in their nets,
Catch herds of wild cattle and shoals of teeming fish,
Huge harvest of the sea are caught
In human nets made of masterful cord.

So skilful is human kind!
The beasts in the barren mountains are caught with cunning traps.
Humans place the yoke around the strong neck of the tireless bull,
Around the maned neck of the swift horse also.

Humankind learnt speech and thought,
These two things, both of them swifter than the wind,
Humans mastered; and learnt to govern cities as well,
Learnt how to avoid the blasts of the wild open air
And dreadful piercing wind-driven arrows of the freezing night

Human kind are prepared for all events bar Death.
Humans cooperate to find cures for illness and disease,
But from Death they can find no escape.

Though humankind’s wisdom is great —
In discovery, wisdom beyond imagining —
Yet one minute it turns to ill, the next again to good.”

May Hem
May Hem
Dec 3, 2022 8:33 PM

Not all young people are mesmerized by technology:

“An EU attempt to raise awareness of its digital presence among younger, politically disengaged audiences, has proven a disaster. A “24-hour beach party” in the metaverse has reportedly failed to connect, drawing just six attendees.”

Living a tech-obsessed life eventually becomes mechanical and boring.

I think humans will remain humans and our great need to connect with Nature and each other will endure. Our miraculous creativity can flourish.

The Great Hoax will fail. Perhaps it will have some success with a minority but not for long. And I believe it will be very patchy. Technology is still in its infancy and there will be many errors and far too much complexity.

The Universe is a simple place.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 3, 2022 9:25 PM
Reply to  May Hem

My worry isn’t that humanity will become soul-less mechanical beings but that there’s no hope for the young people to express their humanity in the future.

And it seems that the young Gen Zers know this – 42% of this generation in the US are depressed and on medication. Nearly 90% believe their generation is not set up for success, as compared with previous generations.

So, will the fake Metaverse be their only way to interact in the ‘world’, all drugged up, poor and isolated?

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 4, 2022 7:47 AM
Reply to  May Hem

The Universe is a simple place.

:- My own suspicion is that the universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. -JBS Haldane, 1927

:- 150 years after the invention of the humble bicycle, the theorists and experimenters have yet to explain its stability definitively. The gyroscopic effect of the front wheel, the angle of its fork, the weight of this fork and of the handlebars, and several other variables have each turned out to be inessential on their own. -Michael Brooks, 2011

:- Certain experimentally recorded energy levels in the nucleus of a large atom have a mysterious correspondence to the distribution of zeros in “Riemann’s critical line in the zeta function”, which in turn is related to the distribution of prime numbers. -Clifford Pickover, 2016

:- We have things flying over our military bases and places where we’re conducting military exercises; we do not know what it is. – US Sen. Marco Rubio, 2020

tony_opmoc
tony_opmoc
Dec 3, 2022 7:42 PM

Todd Hayen,

I used to participate in a Crop Circle conference held in the picturesque Wiltshire hills of rural England”

Yeh but did you go to Crop Circle Pub of the World in England, and stay their camping for a few days

The food in the pub was magnificent, and the camping not expensive. No one would give you a hard time, and after 3 or 4 days, and your car battery was flat, someone often in a transit van with loads of kids, would get you going again.

The boat people on the canal and my wife and me witnessed the most amazing sunsets – all the colours in the sky. The BBC had earlier turned up to do documentary, whilst we had had been on a hike, and I was sat outside having a pint , and I was chatting to this bloke (at the time I had no idea the BBC had been round). I eventually kind of realised, that he expected me to recognise him, cos he thought he was really famous.

I said “I am sorry I do not watch TV”, and still have no idea who he was. He disappeared quick.

Blimey its still going. Such fun days, and we have still got a tent.

Must get back there again next year in between festivals

The Barge Inn – Honeystreet .The historic canal-side pub with music, food, and drinks galore.

https://thebargeinnhoneystreet.uk/

Tony

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Dec 4, 2022 10:05 PM
Reply to  tony_opmoc

Yes, Tony, I did have dinner one night at The Barge Inn…it was wonderful…and I was very intrigued by the canal boat people….I have been to Wiltshire several times and stay at The Bear in Devizes…also lots of fun.

Thanks for your comment!

sandy
sandy
Dec 3, 2022 7:33 PM

Good points. But I think i am with Mr. Corbett here. Techno solutions are quick highs that wear off. Even the inventor of “virtual reality” Jaron Lanier has serious concerns about VR that echo through knowledgeable users of all technological tools. The closer virtual reality gets to reality, the more one should begin to realize the Universe we live in is the real prize. Simulations are only so enticing when one is numb to the real world around them, which is the world we now live in. Human education has been entirely regressive since WW2, keeping people in a linear bubble of misunderstanding that serves the purpose of a capitalist neo-feudal economy. Insensitive and dumb as a rock. The true nature of Universe is non-linear and hyper-complex, something handled by millions of years of evolutionary work on proprietary Earth with everything on Earth cooperating together.

Go to your local thrift store to find the VR glasses on the shelf. Our real problem is not technology. It is the parental 1%’s spell casting of dysfunctional social programming like the West’s public school 3Rs system of dumbwashing a new crop pf employees, which has now gone to child-prisons. The workplace is similarly vapid and dumbing. The TV-MSM broadcasting incrementally evermore insipid behavioral programming. Less than 50% of eligible voters vote and the elected sometimes barely get 20% consent for their braindead policies serving 1% empire and 99% serfdom.

In the 80’s, i was very optimistic that Humanity’s quest for knowledge would win out over Reagan/Thatcher privatization candy coated with greed as bait. Fritjof Capra’s Turning Point and like explorations of non-linear problem solving by a society of adult equals, rather than parental-ed children, still seem our desirable future. Instead, we are in the midst of a Neo Dark Ages regression into a prison society for commoners just to keep the 1% from le guillotine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turning_Point_(book)

AI “art” is an example for me that all tech bullshit just won’t stick. Does Humanity give up our millions of years of evolutionary non-linear proprietary intelligence with “skin in the game” of Life, to the decision making of less than 100 years of tinkering and hot-wiring linear systems into a Panopticon God who has absolutely no possible understanding of Life or Universe? Is Humanity that stupid? No. Imho. Look at this Dec 1 article from nemesis TG and Jonathan Jones sucking up to AI “art” like the entire 1% mediated employed world in the 21st C must suck up to the latest techno bullshit or face the human round file. Look at the “art” shown as samples, even choreographed by well known artists as a tool. It’s dead. Not even wiggling for a lifelong visual artist like myself or really anyone in the visual arts. And if they are honest or not bought out by fear of marginalization, they will admit AI may be a future tool for artists, but IT is not an artist, nor is it’s abominations art anymore or even less than a monkey with paints. It’s just a fact. And everyone going along with the 1%’s progress-or-else, like crusty Jones, is just a sellout to the bigger game of Life. The entire “employeed” System now has soldout for the paycheck keeping them from imminent homelessness.The entirety of The System is THE problem, not technology. It’s up to us adults now.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/dec/01/six-leading-british-artists-making-art-with-ai

Viridis
Viridis
Dec 3, 2022 7:27 PM

Martin Prechtel has written some wonderful books about his time spent with a Mayan tribe in Guatemala in the 50s, before the goverment ( backed by USA) committed genocide.

The Mayans had a sophisticated understanding of technology. Tech is like magic because the technological innovations come from spirits .. But they not given for free- the spirits require to be honored and “fed” in various ways. This is the reason why the Mayans did not bother with the wheel and why they abandoned their civilization and went back to the jungle before the white vultures arrived from Europe. Advanced tech was just too costly for the Mayans who opted for a simpler life. Arrogant Christian Europeans mocked the “indians” for their backwardness. We shall see who will have the last laugh here….

Some of the fragments of “gnosticism” found in the Nag Hammadi texts can be understood to explain that humanity is under attack from non-human, non-physical entities they called the “Archons” ( Greek for “ruler”). They are empty shells cast out like by-products of the transformation of a Goddess ( they called her Sophia which means wisdom) into the living planet Earth. Kabbalists desperately grasping for understanding called them “qliphoth” which means empty shells.

The common misconception that the so-called (*by the christian church) “Gnostics” taught that the “world” was created by the “Devil” hides the real knowledge which is that the “Devil” ( the chief Archon they called Yaldabaoth ) creates a false reality (a virtual reality) in which human minds get trapped.
Technology comes from the Archons and its purpose is enslavement- we are dependent on technology now for physical and mental well-being. The Archons have no real power but are more intelligent than human beings and specialize in mimicry , simulation, co-optation and ultimately inversion of the truth ( as seen back then in the distorted tale of the “garden of Eden”, the serpent and the apple,and pretty much everywhere today).
This is why what I call the Borg ( human shells under the control of the Archons) are so obsessed with virtual reality, simulation and modelling of the natural world, with a view to replace it completely. Thu is why so many people are sucked into video games which pretend to offer “realistic” simulations of life.

The “gnostics” were exterminated by Christians and their Judaic handlers because they identified Yaldabaoth with Yahweh.

This “gnosis” has been savagely persecuted ever since and you will have a very hard time finding it in books. I found it only after a lifetime of inquiry and deep dives into the mystery.

It is unlikely that intellectual processing of the above will lead to understanding. The serpent is not “satan”, it is the kundalini that awakens you to the truth.

Attempts to understand what is happening through a materialist bias tend to lead to depression and insanity, or simply more delusions.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Dec 4, 2022 12:35 AM
Reply to  Viridis

For the first time two years ago, I read the Gnostic Gospels from cover to cover. I agree that Gnostic Christianity should be give a second look. Christ is a very compelling figure in my view, yet it is perfectly obvious that mainline Christianity has failed utterly. I believe only perpetual sabotage can explain this; there are dark entities out there that do not want us to discover the truth.

Viridis
Viridis
Dec 4, 2022 11:44 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Here is the issue, right here- I am not talking about any kind of Christianity- the people who uttered those words I am paraphrasing were not Christian. They were opposed to the Abrahamic-Semitic pseudo-religion. “Jerusalem is the home of many Archons”
Which is why they essentially said that the JudeoChristian god Yahweh is identical to Satan….

They were the “Sethians” which is another label they did not attach to themselves. The Nag Hammadi scrolls contain broken fragments that are obviously a compilation of teachings from different sources- some of them were Christian but the information above comes from the non-christian (Sethian) teachers in those texts.

There is no true essence of Christianity (gnostic or otherwise) that contains some kind of original truth. It is a lie from the very beginning, based on the distrortion and inversion of the truth..

The abbreviated title IS (The texts were written down in Coptic which was like a short-hand language for scribes) appears in some of those texts and has been misinterpreted to mean the Jewish so-called messiah… but in fact “IS” was a title which was given to more than one person and essentially meant “healer”. “Christos” is Greek for “anointed one”, and not THE anointed one … and is also another title that did not belong to a single person before the genocide began (marked by the murder of Hypatia and the destruction of the great libraries such as the one in Alexandria by Christians and Judaists who were the Taliban of the day. . The Taliban recently did the same things because THEY ARE ALL FOLLOWING THE SAME SCRIPT.

Below is an exceprt from Sethian teachings- as you can see it has nothing to do with Judeo Christian doctrine- in fact, the Judaic authors of said doctrine freely borrowed from every mysticism and religion they could find. Especially Babylonian-Sumerian slave religion, which is where the Archons aka Annunaki first began their invasion into human life and where the first autocratic city-states were established. The intent was to to create a distorted, inverted version of religion so as to mislead humanity into spiritual slavery to their false god and their priests.

I am Protennoia, the Thought that dwells in the Light. I am the movement that dwells in the All, she in whom the All takes its stand, the first-born among those who came to be, she who exists before the All. She (Protennoia) is called by three names, although she dwells alone, since she is perfect. I am invisible within the Thought of the Invisible One. I am revealed in the immeasurable, ineffable (things). I am incomprehensible, dwelling in the incomprehensible. I move in every creature.

I am the life of my Epinoia that dwells within every Power and every eternal movement, and (in) invisible Lights and within the Archons and Angels and Demons, and every soul dwelling in Tartaros, and (in) every material soul. I dwell in those who came to be. I move in everyone and I delve into them all. I walk uprightly, and those who sleep, I awaken. And I am the sight of those who dwell in sleep.

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/trimorph.html

You will see that “gnostic ” studies are always thrown in with Christian studies- this is an example of co-optation as performed by the Archons. YOu cannot have a successful academic career as a scholar if you reject the Judeochristian, or semitic script.

Almost all “Gnostic scholars” are Christians trying very hard to shoehorn these things into Christian doctrine- only the open mind can see through their desperate clutching at straws. Because if you begin with the principle that the basic Christian myth is a historical fact – you are already in la-la land.

The term “gnostic” was coined by early christian priests as a derogatory term – it is Greek for “know-it-all” , because the priests could not argue with them intellectually and promoted blind faith instead of inner vision. The contents of the Bible are brainwashing nonsense requiring blind faith- which is what every exploitative cult does.

Finally: Freemasons use the Kabbala and associated Rosicrucian mysticism at the core of their hocus pocus- both derive from Judaic mysticism. The Sethians rejected all of that so people who equate “gnostics “, a made-up group of scapegoats with Freemasons are swimming in ignorance. Again, there were no “gnostics” -this was a term created by the Church before they proceed to exterminate a whole lot of “pagans” and “heretics”.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 4, 2022 1:01 PM
Reply to  Viridis

Rescued from SPAM. If you edit multiple times that can happen occasionally. I suggest pasting into a test editor if you want to make lots of edits. A2

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 4, 2022 4:30 PM
Reply to  Viridis

Hello Viridis: Your analyses (including your comment below) are spot on. I came to these exact conclusions over twenty years ago. “The Other Bible” (Willis Barnstone) is an excellent introduction to pre-Christian gnosis (knowing)…

However. Kundalini (life force) has been hijacked by radio frequency bombardment for over 90 years. The intellectual and moral decays of the general populace are not accidental.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Dec 3, 2022 6:44 PM

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tony_opmoc
tony_opmoc
Dec 3, 2022 7:49 PM
Reply to  S Cooper

I do like your links, but am getting “Your connection is not privateAttackers might be trying to steal your information from img.chan4chan.com (for example, passwords, messages or credit cards). Learn moreNET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID

Viridis
Viridis
Dec 4, 2022 11:55 AM
Reply to  tony_opmoc

that’s because 4chan contains a lot of filth and is on the blacklist of the internet police.
It ia a place where mentally ill people go to post images of mutilated bodies and every there sick shit you cannot imagine.

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Dec 3, 2022 6:23 PM

The BEST part is that, sooner or latter, a beautiful Grain of Sand will strike this Rock and all the tech won’t matter anymore!

In the meantime lets enjoy our collective stupidity…
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Penelope
Penelope
Dec 3, 2022 6:03 PM

You Wondered Who’s Attacking Global Energy (Our Survival)? 

Principles for Responsible Investing, a UN-supported network of investors pushing zero carbon investing using the highly-corrupt ESG criteria—Environmental, Social and Governance factors into investment decisions.  Blackrock signed the Vatican’s 2019 statement advocating carbon pricing regimes. BlackRock in 2020 joined Climate Action 100, a coalition of almost 400 investment managers managing US$40 trillion.

In a letter to Wall St. from the aptly-named Blackrock head, Mr. Fink:

“In the near future – and sooner than most anticipate – there will be a significant re-allocation of capital…Climate risk is investment risk.” Further he stated, “Every government, company, and shareholder must confront climate change.”

This triggered the massive disinvestment we’re seeing.

–From Wlliam Engdahl. Do read the article:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/how-blackrock-larry-fink-created-global-energy-crisis/5799286

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Dec 3, 2022 5:47 PM

As ever, its not the technology that’s the problem but the way we (society) use it. It allows us to count everything, account for everything and so own everything. Once we own everything then we want to charge rent for everything and we’ll fight over everything. “We”, of course, isn’t everyone; most people want somewhere to live and enough to eat and want to get on with their lives but a substantial minority see ordinary people as raw material.

With regard to the Emulator that’s a can of worms. People I know were experimenting with digital sampling starting in the mid to late 70s but the kit was expensive and didn’t travel. The Emulator was the first portable ‘gig-proof’ solution. It didn’t really put musicians out of work so much as help introduce an era where creating music didn’t need instruments as such, instead of instruments being extensions of people the process became more like an assembly line. The result could be pleasing but tended to lack ‘soul’, it worked in the same way that elevator music worked. It also introduced a whole new dimension to copyright where people claimed ownership not of a performance but a sequence of notes or even just a sound. Personally, I prefer the Baroque era because musicians still did gigs with every performance being individual (not the heavily scripted performances of the Victorian era) and copying was regarded as a compliment to the originator, not a fiscal threat to monopolistic corporations.

Its a complicated subject but don’t blame the tool for the way it gets used. That’s a human failing.

wardropper
wardropper
Dec 3, 2022 5:40 PM

“Here’s a great big white pill for you: the technocratic system of tyranny is going to fail. This is not wishful thinking; it’s a cold statement of fact. Technocracy, in all its facets—from the UN’s 2030 Agenda to the brain chips and AI godheads of the transhumanists to the CBDC social credit surveillance state—is anti-human. It goes against nature itself. It cannot work in the long run, and it is destined to fail.”

Well, my take on this is that it is, indeed, destined to fail, and for that very reason – that it is anti-human.
BUT . . .
This process of failure might take several hundred years, looking forward to a time when the few survivors of the current global insanity rediscover ethics, conscience and their own innate sense of right and wrong.
Then we will have another century or two of Neo-Puritanism, where people of conscience seek political and financial mileage out of telling everybody else what to do, after which a new generation of protesters will emerge, along with their Neo-Rolling Stones, Neo-Country-Blues singers and other Neo-Rebels, and we’ll be right back where we started.

It seems to me that human history is like that. Everything comes in waves – big ones.
Our role in all this is to do the best we can, given whatever tools and talents we might have to work with, and I really don’t think that will change.

Robots are robots. They are never going to have human characteristics, unless some fool arbitrarily programmes ‘fallibility’ into them – and what could possibly go wrong there…?

Like Corbett, I am not ultimately pessimistic, but the short-term is going to be messy, because we have already allowed “the technocratic system of tyranny” too much time to get its wretched act together.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 3, 2022 9:29 PM
Reply to  wardropper

It will fail because it’s anti-human??? Well, the C-injections with the hidden technology are also anti-human – and they are a huge success, with well over half the western population having received them.

Gordon mcrae
Gordon mcrae
Dec 4, 2022 1:00 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Yes but they have been just destructive enough to wake a lot of asleep people back up to the fact that they got abused.

wardropper
wardropper
Dec 4, 2022 1:48 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Ethics aren’t measured by “success”.
It’s a moral matter, just as someone once said, “Anybody can make money, if that’s all they want to do with their lives”.

But in any case, the robots I’m talking about are the apparently-human controllers of transhumanism and population control.
They would be indistinguishable from mechanical robots, if it weren’t for their agenda and their deeds.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 4, 2022 4:08 PM
Reply to  wardropper

But unlike mechanical robots, their shit really stinks…

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 4, 2022 8:05 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Spiral may be a better analogy than wave. It may have been Fritjof Capra who said that.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 3, 2022 5:24 PM

Re: Death technology: Here is an excerpt from a paper I wrote in 2014.

Excerpted from: Behavioral disorder affects and neurological changes associated to cellular phone use and wireless emissions.

Regarding sensory disconnect: The industry chosen frequencies utilized by these devices [cell phones, wi-fi, “smart” meters, most digital communications] ultimately affect cellular metabolism and chemical messaging within the cerebellum. This is quite specifically true in the limbic system as related to the natural order of electrical signaling activities within the nucleus acumens.

If one observes the autonomic structure of the human spine and brain stem, the limbic system is located atop a critical junction area of a sophisticated bio-feedback loop and sensory system. It is a highly active signaling area. There are billions of sensory feedback neurons in the human and animal brain that are exquisitely sensitive to electromagnetic field induction.
 
To bombard these areas with high intensity electromagnetic emissions is quite literally insane and criminal. Rather than go into an explanation of how these frequencies cause direct behavioral shifts, a good starting point for understanding the mechanism toward additive and dissociative social behavior can be found in these areas of interest:

Limbic system – Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limbic_system
Pleasure center – Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasure_center
Cerebellar Cognitive Affective Syndrome – Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org:80/wiki/Cerebellar_Cognitive_Affective_Syndrome

Human species are committing suicide with their addictions to electromagnetic stimulus…

Penelope
Penelope
Dec 4, 2022 5:26 AM

Interesting, Paul. None of the links explained HOW EMF harms the brain, but it certainly seems that it must disrupt electrical signals. My neighbor’s hair fell out around the ear which he uses for his cell phone.

The electrical harm is sposed to be greater for kids since their thinner skull offers less shielding for the brain. I was struck by a globalresearch article years ago, in which they showed photos of red blood cells subjected to EMFs; the cells rolled themselves up as if they were in a penny-wrapper– called rouleau. This was as a result of someone’s having a cell phone in their backpack.

Regular electrification was introduced in one of the Scandinavian countries gradually, and they noticed the increase in childhood leukemia reflected its introduction– just from leakage of insulated electrical wires.

A number of people, including someone I know, relate a brain tumor to their sleeping with an electric clockradio within a few inches of the head. It must be a very common practice.
Finally, I am forever warning Fed EX deliverymen about putting into their pockets a wifi device that they carry. Actually, I haven’t seen that in awhile; maybe there’s been a technology change.

So many men carry their cell phones in their front pockets; I guess it’s hard to imagine such a common object is harmful or dangerous.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 4, 2022 3:58 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Hello Penelope: I have a background in electrical engineering and analog circuit design. My analysis was concerned with the actual structures of the spinal column and brain stem. The spine and brain stem are comparatively large signal receivers, and quite antenna-like. The terminations of these structures within the nucleus acumens are extremely small and hair-like. It is simply a matter of circuit design. Generally, the finer the “wire” the lesser voltage and current carrying capacity.

Induced transient voltage caused by dirty electricity (grid wiring) and radio frequency noise caused by digital square wave spiking, cause log term (irreparable) damage to this acutely sensitive feedback system.

Sensory feedback is the basis of all emotional and physical “life” experience. Man made electrical signals are hijacking Natural (healthful) sensations, and creating Hell on Earth…

mego’s linked reference (just below your comment) is one of many detailed studies by Dr Martin Pall. Mr Pall is a highly regarded expert on the subject of electromagnetic induction effects on biological health.

Though he remains focused on overall chemical/cellular disturbance, his analysis is quite germane. Thank you for commenting.

Penelope
Penelope
Dec 5, 2022 5:40 AM

Paul, my interest is more than casual. I have a progressive demyelinating disease which confines me to a walker for distance walking, and some electrical sensitivity.

I’ll take a look at Martin Pall’s work in case there’s anything there that might help me.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 5, 2022 2:08 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Hello Penelope: Very sorry to hear of your Demyelinating issues. There are numerous studies suggesting correlations between electromagnetic field exposures and diseases such as multiple sclerosis and Parkinson disease. Here’s just one example – independent of Dr Pall’s work. >

Evidences of the radiofrequency exposure on the antioxidant status, potentially contributing to the inflammatory response and demyelination in rat brain
PMID: 35700956
DOI: 10.1016/j.etap.2022.103903

Abstract
 
“Present study exhibited the oxidative potential of microwave radiation (MWR) leading to the neurodegeneration in rats. Wistar rats were exposed at 2100 MHz frequency for 4 h/day, 5 days/week/3 months. Animals were exposed at an estimated specific absorption rate (0.453 W/kg) and power density (8.237 µW/m2). After exposure irradiated group was compared with control group. Results indicated that microwave exposure significantly increased the levels of serological triglycerides and cholesterol. Oxidative stress is observed through alteration of glutathione homeostasis followed by activated inflammatory response further confirmed by pro and anti-inflammatory cytokines in the exposed group. Histopathological assessments and electron microscopic observation confirmed a significant change in the myelination pattern and cellular organelles in the brain of exposed animals. Taking everything into account it can be concluded that chronic exposure of 2100-MHz frequency caused oxidative stress, which leads to neural damage and demyelination and may affect neural communication.” [End abstract]
 
There is a list of related studies included on the cited page. >

Evidences of the radiofrequency exposure on the antioxidant status, potentially contributing to the inflammatory response and demyelination in rat brain – PubMed (nih.gov)

Also: EMF RADIATION The Health Crisis Of Our Time! Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt MD – YouTube

Mr Klinghardt has also done extensive studies of the effects of Lyme disease and related neurological disorders. See his web site for further research.

Penelope
Penelope
Dec 5, 2022 11:52 PM

Thanks, Paul, for all the info. I’ll review the links. I was onto the EMF hazard early so never used a cell phone or any wireless device; I even avoided microwaving food & haven’t had a TV in decades. Yet, as you know, we are swimming in EMF and dirty electricity that escapes careless technology.

It’s no wonder people aren’t responding w vigor to the extermination that threatens us– the poisons are truly everywhere.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 4, 2022 8:20 AM

:- Over 14,000 studies show adverse effects at levels within the safety guidelines.
:- With 5G, the likely harm from increased radiation includes neurological effects, endocrine disruption, oxidative stress, DNA mutations, poor fertility and cancer. The damage will come through free radicals, excessive intracellular calcium and excessive calcium signaling.
-Prof. Martin Pall, own research
https://peaceinspace.blogs.com/files/5g-emf-hazards–dr-martin-l.-pall–eu-emf2018-6-11us3.pdf

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 4, 2022 4:05 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Hello mego: Yes. I’ve read Dr Pall extensively, and he is not alone in his analysis. The recent focus on 5G effects has more-or-less derailed the fact that ALL radio frequency broadcast is biological suicide.

The plebs just want more, because they’ve become addicted to the stimulus. It’s electronic crack cocaine.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 5, 2022 11:22 AM

Would it be ok if you could link directly to your paper or other relevant studies in future? I couldn’t help but notice that your wiki links are a tad generic here, and perhaps our readers would like a chance to research into the actual hard data themselves? As you’re making some pretty bold assertions, while also alluding to your electrical engineering background, I think citations would be reasonable in future. Thanks for understanding, A2

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 5, 2022 1:16 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Hello Sam – Admin2: It would be near impossible to link to my specific paper, as the paper was never completed or published. I once thought such private investigations would be helpful to the general public, but discontinued my efforts after 15 years of rejection by the public at large…

I have approximately 200 peer reviewed studies on file, and have read somewhere near 130 thousand pages of research. So, not exactly novice on this subject. Here’s a more recent supportive study of brain related effects. I hope you find it of interest. Thank you for your interest.

Excerpted from:
Effects of microwave radiation on brain energy metabolism and related mechanisms
Military Medical Research
December 2015
 
DOI:10.1186/s40779-015-0033-6
 
“The damaging effects of MW radiation on the brain include brain dysfunction and brain structural damage. An epidemiological survey found that MW radiation caused human fatigue, headache, excitement, dreams, memory loss and other symptoms of neurasthenia [20]. In addition, there were impaired learning and memory abilities in rats after MW radiation, as determined by the Morris water maze [5,6,21,22].
 
MW radiation may also lead to neuronal shrinkage, nuclear condensation, mitochondrial swelling, an expanded endoplasmic reticulum, alterations to the synaptic gaps and widened vascular endothelial connections, where mitochondrial injury occurred earlier and more severely [5,21,23-25].”

Full text: (PDF) Effects of microwave radiation on brain energy metabolism and related mechanisms (researchgate.net)

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Dec 5, 2022 1:44 PM

Thanks Paul. This paper is kind of a metastudy so has links to many other papers, great place to start for our readers. Two things leap out at me, one is that the paper concludes that MW radiation does indeed effect living organisms in many different ways but further study is needed to gain more meaningful results and results weren’t consistent from lab to lab, and the other thing is I wonder how the average power densities of the MW radiation used in these trials compare to what we are commonly exposed to in our day to day lives? A2

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 5, 2022 4:43 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Yes. “Most” research papers regarding EMF health related issues, include the “further study needed” mythology as a funding objective. If 10,000 studies don’t prove the point, will 100,000 more elicit confirmation?

This study came to me pretty early on. It is not easy reading and long winded, but incorporates a number of measured data. >

Jeremy K. Raines, Ph.D.
April 9, 1981
 
DR. JEREMY K. RAINES, P.E.
Electromagnetic & Communications Engineer
13420 Cleveland Drive
Rockville, Maryland 20850
 
Report Prepared for:
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Goddard Space Flight Center
Greenbelt, Maryland 20771NA8A Purchase Order 8-75151B

19810017132.pdf (nasa.gov)

Victor G.
Victor G.
Dec 3, 2022 5:22 PM

Thanks, Todd … I’d avoid linking to that seemingly inevitable book website (unnamed). It’s a sort of Achille’s heel.
They are not the only game in town.

https://www.powells.com/book/player-piano-9780385333788
https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/amazon-alternatives-buying-books/

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 3, 2022 4:11 PM

The new hypochondriac anxiety state in full flow here:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/12/03/1140185521/children-fever-medicine-tylenol-motrin-hard-to-find

You can’t go wrong with a creepy neologism. A “tripledemic” is pushing (all by itself of course!) the disappearance of kids’ medicines. So lots of concerned advice about how to assuage the fevered brows of the nippers etc. It’s all nice and friendly at the moment but bear in mind that this is just the beginning. “Don’t hoard!” is a meme you will hear more and more as the “surging tsunami” of infant horror tales rolls out over the following weeks, months ….. years.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 3, 2022 4:14 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Still, it’s good to try and milk as much humour out of this Götterdämmerung as we can. Note the NPR’s little plea at the bottom:

What makes us different

Financial independence means we can focus on the truth and tell stories that would otherwise not be told. As a nonprofit, your support is our greatest strength. You experience that difference in our exceptional news and programming. You make it possible.

These bravely independent channels are ALL different! And they rely on YOU to etc.

Ort
Ort
Dec 3, 2022 9:37 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“Tripledemic”, you say? Slowly I turn… step by step… inch by inch…

I knew that I’ve been obsessively culling Yahoo “news” blurbs for my “COVIDganda” (and “vaxganda” and “virusganda”) collection for a reason; here’s a fresh one:

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Gordon mcrae
Gordon mcrae
Dec 4, 2022 1:07 AM
Reply to  Ort

I think you mean Genda not Ganda…..

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Dec 3, 2022 10:15 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Blimey! The Sadists for Universal Agony Institute.
Supplemented suited to the suitable supplemented obligated, thanks George

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Dec 3, 2022 4:10 PM

The goal of the globalist overlords is to transform society, alter the natural order and literally the whole world so it fits into their dystopian Brave New World Order vision. This process calls for the complete dehumanization, debasement and degradation of people everywhere, the disconnection of the psycho-social bonds between people, generations and society as a whole. Technology is merely a tool, the values and belief system based on a megalomaniacal anti-life ideology are driving their technology. As a result we are being led over an abyss into a horrible state of being, a state that will disconnect us from our divinity, ourselves and the larger environment. Think about this, as bad as remote relationships are, Elon Musk stated his brain implants are ready to go, he’s awaiting FDA approval.
As we know the FDA is in the total control of the overclass so don’t expect any pushback or hesitancy from the FDA, the media or the government. Art can be used to uplift, inspire and encourage us but it can also be used to degrade, debase and disorient us. The oligarchs are coming after our children and grandchildren to indoctrinate them into their anti-life agenda and rope them into their dehumanized hell scape using technology. If you are able please monitor and regulate your young people’s access to the technology.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 4, 2022 8:31 AM

Like addiction to unhealthy commercial food including the sweet stuff, this requires an early start. Marketing, especially through peer pressure, is intended to undermine such resistance.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 3, 2022 3:59 PM

Off topic – though definitely of concern ultimately for everyone – commenter Moneycircus’s Discord account has been disappeared. So I thought I’d do a bit of checking and found this:
 
https://www.npr.org/2021/04/05/983855753/group-chat-app-discord-says-it-banned-more-than-2-000-extremist-communities
 
“Discord, the group-chat app that has grown rapidly during the coronavirus pandemic, removed more than 2,000 communities dedicated to extremism and other violent content in the second half of last year, the company reported on Monday.”
 
(This dates from April 2021.)
 
“extremism and other violent content”?
 
Here’s what we have:
 
“the anti-government Boogaloo movement….communities from QAnon, the pro-Trump conspiracy theory. ….334 communities related to QAnon.”
 
I had never heard of this “Boogaloo” movement. According to the CSIS (which would appear to be a Cold War nest of neocon types),
 
“The Boogaloo movement is a decentralized ideological network that believes in a coming second U.S. civil war—referred to as the “boogaloo”—and espouses anti-government and anti-law enforcement rhetoric.”
 
Which makes it sound as artificially constructed as those QAnon and “Trumpist” entities.
 
We also hear about “cybercrimes and exploitative content, which includes revenge porn and sexually explicit content involving minors.” Of course the old paedo-porn is always a winner when finding support for clamping down indiscriminately. (Though this must be complicated by the “non-paedo” paedo stuff which is “an expression of love” in the trans movement.)
 
“Once seen as a haven for white nationalists and other hateful groups, Discord has been working to expel violence-promoting users and dangerous communities from the platform ever since the deadly Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017.”
 
The branding of Discord as a “Right site” or “alt-Right site” has been taken up by the infamous “hate labelling” Southern Poverty Law Centre.
 
Blah blah “Capitol siege” – yes we are on familiar ground now.
 
And note this:
 
“Discord does not provide data about moderators, including what kind of toxic content that moderators have tolerated.”
 
See? We read quite clearly that the data has not been provided and yet “toxic content” is blithely assumed.
 
More “take it at face value” announcements:
 
“In the second half of 2020, that team deleted some 266,000 accounts from Discord, overwhelmingly for violations of the site’s prohibition on exploitative content, which includes nonconsensual pornography and sexual content involving minors.”
 
Then …. “spammy behaviour”? That scraping noise signals the bottom of the barrel.
 
So it was only a matter of time really. As it always is with the tentacles ever circulating.

Viridis
Viridis
Dec 3, 2022 7:45 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The web is the home of the spider.

Howard
Howard
Dec 3, 2022 3:50 PM

The good news is the scheme to turn the entire world into one great big technate will not work.

The bad news is the maniacs behind the scheme may end up destroying all life on the planet in their determination to make it work.

Not because of the human spirit will it not work; but for – irony of ironies! – for technical reasons. Technology cannot be made to overcome its own limitations any more than black holes can be made to stop ingesting stellar matter.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 4, 2022 8:39 AM
Reply to  Howard

Common modern excuses for blunders and outages include “technical error”, “breakdown in communication” or “factor beyond control”.

Hank
Hank
Dec 3, 2022 3:26 PM

With all the tech available today they will be applying for sick certificates from the beach and pub.

Doctors will love it also as they will get paid clicking buttons. Wouldn’t surprise me if doctors end up being like those automated pop up chats. Hi, my name is Dr No how can I help. Doctor won’t even have to be there, ka ching.

Doctors will be able to edit the online just like the guy applying for the sickie from the beach. No need to pay rent. Just goes to show you how much doctors really care.

Wasn’t long ago a doctor could fix most things. Now they just send you to a “specialist”. Then the specialist sends you to someone else. Merry go round.

Bosses will not like it one bit.

May Hem
May Hem
Dec 3, 2022 8:40 PM
Reply to  Hank

You’re assuming there will still be jobs?

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 3, 2022 3:09 PM

During my federal government career, I would get up at 6 and endure an hour commute in traffic, with other humans, to get to downtown Portland where I would ride an elevator, with other humans, to the 11th floor, where I would sit in a cubicle in an office, with other humans, and do work primarily on a computer. Most every day there would be some kind of meeting where I would get up from my cubicle and go into another room, with other humans, sometimes all of us sitting closely together, and we would discuss the things we were expected to discuss in a meeting. Then I would go back to my cubicle and wait until the next one.

Now I work from home and can do my work about anytime I want. I still have meetings, where I have to remember there is one and stop whatever it is I’m doing at home, turn on the computer and act like I’m listening. I can do this without driving, without dressing up, without even taking a shower. And I don’t have to sit next to humans, just look at some other humans on a computer screen. Then when it’s over, I can resume mowing my lawn, washing the dishes, watching the game, or even finish some work, all without having to deal with other humans, except some emails and phone calls here and there. I don’t have to pay for parking, buy expensive coffee, or commute in the snow for two hours. And I don’t have to deal with humans nearly as much.

Is that a bad thing? I’m with ya, Todd, on the technology thing. I just recently started using a cell phone because I sold my house and relinquished the land line I had for 30 years. And I don’t use it for anything more than calls and an occasional message. But the human connection, although extremely important in some contexts, i.e., family and friends in particular, isn’t all it’s cracked up to be relative to work. I find myself glad I’m turning on a Zoom meeting rather than driving two plus hours a day back and forth to a downtown highrise and dealing with a bunch of uptight assholes.

I don’t know, should I go back to putting up with all that shit just to fight the New World Order?

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 3, 2022 4:56 PM

Yes, it is a bad thing. Human contact is actually a necessary thing. As for driving 2 hours a day, whose choice was that? You decided where to live, you decided where to work. Your choices led to a 2 hour a day commute.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 3, 2022 5:19 PM
Reply to  Chicot

Oh ya, I knew someone would say that. Ya, and I decided to work from home also. I like it. So what? I have all the human contact I need, but thanks for your concern.

You say working from home is a bad thing, have you done it? Who are you to say what is bad for me and my family?

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 3, 2022 6:40 PM

Yes, I have done it. Started with the Covid hysteria but we were going to go back to hybrid working. Unfortunately, too many people had your attitude, the management caved and now working from home is pretty much the only option. You are exactly the sort of person I was referring to in my earlier post. Let me guess – married with children? Can you not see that, in the long term, everyone working from home will lead to numerous negative consequences for society or do you simply not care? I have no objections to some working from home but everyone who can doing it all the time is going to destroy much of society. Still, as long as you get to spend more time with your family that’s by the by.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 3, 2022 8:13 PM
Reply to  Chicot

Do you own a smart phone? Do you use QR codes?

FYI, I don’t think you have to worry about everyone working from home, that type of schedule is not for every job. So tell me, exactly what are these numerous negative consequences and how it will destroy society? Or are you just blowing smoke?

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 3, 2022 9:05 PM

No and no. I have already outlined some of the negative consequences, as has this article. Do you believe the elites are in favour of home working? If so, why exactly do you think this is?

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 3, 2022 9:52 PM
Reply to  Chicot

What elites? Good grief man, Not all technology is bad, it’s how it’s used. I see nothing wrong with what I’m doing and you cannot define what I’m doing wrong. I don’t see where you’ve “outlined” the negative consequences at all other than to say there are negative consequences. You seem to believe it’s better for me to get in my car every morning and spend 3 extra hours per day going to and from work. Talk about negative consequences. Oh but of course, to you, it’s all “my choice”. I’ve been teleworking for over 20 years and I see nothing wrong with it. I don’t think it plays into the plans of whoever you think are the elite at all.

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 3, 2022 11:06 PM

What elites???? Good grief! Have you learnt nothing from the past 2 or so years? Do you think that Covid was the Black Death and lockdown was absolutely the right thing to do? Have you heard of the WEF or the Great Reset? Negative consequences? How about the destruction of small businesses that rely on the office trade or the reduction of social ties formed at work? You never did answer whether or not you were married with children. I’ll take a wild stab in the dark and say that you are. Your life probably revolves around your family. Fine for you but understand that not everyone is the same. Of course having everyone sat at home and isolated plays into the hands of the elites, I’m amazed you can’t see that. People talk at work, they discuss things, ideas are exchanged. People looking to control society see that as a threat and are more than happy with any developments that reduce that.

As I said, some working from home is fine. The pushing of everyone who can work from home to do so all the time is very far from it. It’s not hard to see who benefits from more or less universal work from home and who is pushing it. I am not saying what you are doing is wrong, my problem is with your seeming inability to see how more or less universal work from home can have negative aspects for society and how that obviously plays into the hands of those who want to control society for their own ends.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 3, 2022 11:15 PM
Reply to  Chicot

FYI, I don’t call them elites. Look up the definition, there is nothing elite about them in my book. If you think they’re elite, that’s your problem.

And no, I’m not married, I’m divorced with children. How’s that play into your preconceived assumptions?

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 3, 2022 11:25 PM

You’re just playing semantics games now. You knew who I meant. What does it matter what I refer to them as?

Ok, so I got that wrong. Doesn’t really change my argument that universal work from home plays right into the hands of the elites (or whatever you want to call them).

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 4, 2022 3:27 AM
Reply to  Chicot

I don’t know who was talking about “universal”, certainly not me. And that would be impossible. And actually when you think about , if that’s what you’re wont to do, I don’t think the pretend rulers want to allow everyone to work from home, you’re wrong there as seen in how they’re calling everyone back to the office. The ploy was just for the scamdemic and conditioning the people to accept lockdowns. Like I said, I’ve been teleworking for over 20 years in a job that could literally be performed anywhere with a phone and a computer. So whatever dude, this, and you, reminds me of the left woke, only different. I’m one of the few, if any, I know, who only recently got a throw away cell phone just because there aren’t any fucking phone booths anymore and I sold my house. When I purchase a new one, with cash to avoid our pretend masters, I’ll get a land line again. I’m one of the last to accuse of acquiescing to technology and yet here you did. And not knowing about the WEF? Are you serious? Do you understand what blog you are at?

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 4, 2022 12:08 PM

I understand perfectly what kind of a blog I am at but your seeming denial of the “elites” existence made me doubt where you were at. I didn’t realise you were playing silly word games for the sake of argument. I don’t think the “pretend rulers” are pulling back from home working at all. There have been a few company executives who have stated they want people to go back to the office but they have been roundly condemned in the media (and we know who is pulling their strings). I have seen numerous media articles that do actually acknowledge some of the drawbacks of home working. Funny thing is every last one of them merely suggests making alterations to the home environment (set up a home office blah blah blah…). Not a single one dares to take on the sacred cow of home working itself.

Suzanne
Suzanne
Dec 3, 2022 8:35 PM
Reply to  Chicot

I’m not seeing this issue or Todd’s essay as a binary argument. There are reasons to support and appreciate the convenience of remote work as well as aspects of our human need for connection that are impacted and worth considering and protecting. The totality of the direction we are being led in is of grave concern though–AI and technocracy are intrinsically cold, dehumanizing, and a great danger to us of epic proportions. Working virtually is but one brick in the wall that is being built and giving thought and intentionality to the part it plays is worthwhile since it may not be long before we are walled off from existence. Would our insistence on rejecting the convenience of having a remote option “fix” the impending doom? The doom facing us is not likely to have this singular variable determining this outcome. And yet, little by little dehumanization is being normalized.

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 3, 2022 11:16 PM
Reply to  Suzanne

As I said, some remote work is fine and good. Universal work from home (where possible) is far from it and it’s not hard to see an agenda behind the concerted push for it. Sadly, far too many just think it’s great to be able to work in their pyjamas and give little or no thought to the wider implications.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 4, 2022 3:42 AM
Reply to  Chicot

There is no concerted push for it now, they’re pulling people back. that’s bullshit. It was a ploy to support the lockdown, but never intended as a permanent move. Get real.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Dec 4, 2022 11:23 AM
Reply to  Chicot

I get it, what kind of hybrid if you don’t mind me asking?

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 4, 2022 12:11 PM
Reply to  Clive Williams

The kind of hybrid that was suggested was 3 days in the office, 2 days at home per week. That would have been fine but too many were outraged by the suggestion, management caved and now we have downsized to a smaller office which would not house the whole of the company even if they wanted to.

Viridis
Viridis
Dec 3, 2022 7:48 PM

That sounds like a bullshit job.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 3, 2022 11:17 PM
Reply to  Viridis

Well, that’s what you think. I’d like to think I contributed to society doing a needed function.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Dec 4, 2022 3:23 PM

What function was that?

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 4, 2022 6:59 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Why do you want to know, so you can judge me? Alot of people on this blog and in this sector of society are just as judgmental as the woke left. It’s like if you don’t grow all your own food, relinquish all technology, you are the enemy. Most are probably nothing but hypocrites talking or texting on their smart phones all day. How dare I work from home.

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 4, 2022 8:05 PM

You are starting a fight when there was actually no need for one. I don’t think anyone in this thread, not the author, not me nor anyone else, was actually arguing that no one at all should ever work from home. What we are saying is the more or less universal work from home (for every job for which it is feasible) is going to cause huge problems for society. There was a massive increase in working from home during the “pandemic” and there is very little sign of this being reversed. The vast majority of the population, aided and abetted by the media, pretend that this is nothing but good and there are no negative impacts whatsoever. This is simply not the case.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 4, 2022 8:53 PM
Reply to  Chicot

You might want to re-read the thread. You were the one accusing me of making the wrong choice and that I just had to live with it. Which was bullshit from the start. So, whatever. I’ve been doing this a long time man, you can lose the condescension. But you taught me a lesson regarding my approach. I’ll try not to emulate the woke left when it comes to judging other people and their choices. I know I’ve done it too. I tend to do it with cell phones as you might have seen.

Btw, I was and still am a mid level government analyst specializing in compensation systems. That’s so ZenPriest can criticize me for working for the federal government. Oh, and I’m a vet, so he/she can pile on with that.

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 4, 2022 9:00 PM

I said that the amount you had to commute was your choice, as indeed it was. I didn’t say you had to live with it, I was pointing out that you were complaining about a situation you decided upon. You chose to interpret an article warning against the dangers of increasing reliance on technology and social isolation as a personal attack on your situation. If you hadn’t done that there would have been nothing for me to reply to in the 1st place.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Dec 4, 2022 6:06 AM

Albert
I’am betting you also remain seated mowing the lawn. lol!
NW?? O is a US Economical European Continental Order.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 4, 2022 6:59 PM
Reply to  Clive Williams

You have amazing powers Clive, to be able to tell from what I wrote how I mow my lawn, and that I even have a lawn. You should put that to good work.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 4, 2022 8:46 AM

2 hours/day of being nearly immobile in the car plus the stress of traffic increases the likelihood of a stroke, especially as you get older.

MolecCodicies
MolecCodicies
Dec 3, 2022 3:09 PM

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S Cooper
S Cooper
Dec 3, 2022 4:57 PM
Reply to  MolecCodicies

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Steph Amson
Steph Amson
Dec 3, 2022 2:44 PM

A post I made was pending and now apparently was not allowed. I’m truly shocked since the post was about true statistical evidence by Denis Rancourt whose interview you have hosted in the past.

(The post in question can be read directly below this one. We suggest people refresh their browser after posting a comment & BEFORE claiming they’re being censored 😉 – ed)

Viridis
Viridis
Dec 3, 2022 7:51 PM
Reply to  Steph Amson

It seems that this site is not what it seems to be.

dom irritant
dom irritant
Dec 4, 2022 8:15 AM
Reply to  Viridis

nothing ever is

Steph Amson
Steph Amson
Dec 5, 2022 8:09 AM
Reply to  Steph Amson

My apologies, I guess it was still pending. It appears below. Thanks very much.

Steph Amson
Steph Amson
Dec 3, 2022 2:31 PM

We are also experiencing people, the fragile ones, being killed on a massive scale. All cause mortality data over time reveals a lot about what is happening.

https://rumble.com/v1ycyjo-what-really-killed-millions-denis-rancourt.html

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 3, 2022 2:24 PM

In India: The triumphant UPI may be a stumbling block to digital Rupee’s success

I have to agree with James Corbett: a surveillance society doesn’t gel with human nature.
Those damn WEF models, too logical. Financial models failed in 2008, Climate models failed every year till date etc. Nature is too fickle.

Peter Wright
Peter Wright
Dec 3, 2022 2:13 PM

My view is somewhere between yours Todd, and James Corbett’s. It is worth remembering that huge political and commercial empires were built and sustained for centuries thousands of years ago without any technology more advanced than the wheel and sailing ships for transportation, pens and paper for communication and steel weapons for protection.

The organizational and communication skills, systems and above all, reliance on people to do their duty was what allowed the great European trading houses of the 18th & 19th centuries to control vast international operations without any of today’s technology,

There will be bleak times ahead as we deplete the resources needed to sustain today’s infatuation with the latest new toys and “green” energy. However, as humanity has done time and again, I believe the human race will survive and just maybe get it right the next time..

Chicot
Chicot
Dec 3, 2022 2:07 PM

Oh dear, now you’ve done it. Prepare to be assailed by a legion of hermits outraged that their employer might require them to leave their sanctuary for even a day. Most of these people tend to be married with children, and without a shred of empathy for people at a different stage of their lives. “People often form friendships and relationships at work…”. “What’s the matter with you, you weirdo? Don’t you have any friends outside work? Why do you want to see people in person? Why can’t you just swipe right like the rest of us?”

The fact is all this working from home is going to cause upheavals to society and much of it will not be for the good. One of the great things about being at home is that you are no longer at work. When home becomes work the lines become blurred. Small businesses that rely on office custom will go to the wall. People talk at work, share ideas, comment on the issues of the day, which is why the elites love home working. Keep the population atomized and unable to organize. I doubt many revolutions are going to be started on Zoom and you never know just who might be listening in.

Howard
Howard
Dec 3, 2022 2:00 PM

I fear you may have set the cart before the horse. Rather than the things you mention de-humanizing people, these things will have come to dominate people’s lives precisely because people have already become de-humanized.

Most people seem to take to de-humanization like a fish to water – so much so that it’s time to ask if perhaps what we take for a de-humanization process might not actually be the reverse: a humanization process.

In becoming ever more an extension of technology, people perhaps are merely expressing their true nature. It’s never been definitively determined if humans are, like dogs, pack animals or, like cats, essentially solitary animals.

Do we come together because we must have company or because it’s convenient? Feral cats on the edge of a community live in groups; but that doesn’t make them pack animals.

Rob
Rob
Dec 3, 2022 1:43 PM

I think Corbett is right… It’s going to fail, because it’s already failing.

What difference is it that you zoom with your pharma brainwashed doctor (because that’s what most of them do) or see them in person?

The tech is exposing the useless system.

Even better, I can consult with doctors and naturalpaths that aren’t in my area.

Fornow
Fornow
Dec 3, 2022 1:36 PM

Has long been of concern. Have you read Robopath by Lewis Yablonskly?

Freecus
Freecus
Dec 3, 2022 1:34 PM

The problem at its essence is not the technology, but the fact that the People have been intentionally distanced from decisions regarding its deployment.
Corporate entities masquerading as governments have been fundamental to this deception.

Edwige
Edwige
Dec 3, 2022 4:38 PM
Reply to  Freecus

Of course people must be distanced from the decisions – they won’t give the right answer!

Hereward
Hereward
Dec 3, 2022 12:48 PM

This process has been going on for a long time. Wasn’t it Socrates that said that writing destroys people’s memory?

hotrod31
hotrod31
Dec 3, 2022 12:29 PM

… by-and-large, we’re probably all hoping, without admitting it openly … that the crocodile eats us last.
Of course some don’t want to ‘see’ the crocodile.
Quite frankly, I can’t help but marvel at the short-sightedness of my fellow humans when they choose to use the ‘auto’ check-outs in supermarkets or department stores. Or the morons who assume that they are so cute, wearing their micro-wave telephone ear-pods, slow-cooking their brains as they scan their mobile phones to pay for goods and services.

Howard
Howard
Dec 3, 2022 4:15 PM
Reply to  hotrod31

Why would a shopper using the self-check at the store necessarily be short-sighted? I, for one, always use it where it’s available – and for the simplest possible reason: to verify I’m getting the correct price on what I buy. It isn’t that I don’t trust the checkers; but they move so swiftly that it’s impossible to watch each item being rung up.

May Hem
May Hem
Dec 3, 2022 8:49 PM
Reply to  hotrod31

As well as alll this clobber, they are probably wearing a mask- and it could be a ‘smart’ mask – yet another tech-suppressant.

Is there a hidden urge to become a robot in some people? A robot doesn’t have to take responsibility. Just follow orders.

judith
judith
Dec 4, 2022 2:15 PM
Reply to  hotrod31

I hated the auto-check out when it was installed in 2021.
And complained vociferously that all four only accepted debit or credit cards.
Now they accept cash as well.
The only reason I will use them is because when the auto’s were installed they got rid of the “express lines – 12 items and under”. I admittedly do not have the time or patience to wait behind a shopper with a big full shopping cart (or more than one) when I am purchasing only two items.
Yup, I feel like a sell-out, but that’s what I do.
Like another commenter wrote, I only acquiesced to a cell phone years ago when the very last pay phone in our city was removed. I cared for young family members frequently and needed a way to communicate with parents.
We do the best we can.

Cloverleaf
Cloverleaf
Dec 3, 2022 12:26 PM

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el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Dec 3, 2022 12:38 PM
Reply to  Cloverleaf

As Tonto said to the Lone Ranger when surrounded by a group of angry Indians, what do you mean “we,” white man? Harari may well be the most useless eater on the planet. Perhaps Musk could send him to Mars shortly on a one-way ticket.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 3, 2022 2:25 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Harari may well be the most useless eater on the planet.

Oh I don’t know. I think he’s misunderstood. He’s pioneering a new brand of stand up comedy.

Violet
Violet
Dec 3, 2022 2:36 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Yeah and take his boyfriend Klaus with him and also that useless eater Kill Gates 😂.

wardropper
wardropper
Dec 3, 2022 5:48 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Lets hope Hararkiri is in his tarot-card reading quite soon . . .

Ort
Ort
Dec 3, 2022 9:31 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

That, and the odious Harari seems bent (in every sense) on making himself an egregious example to prove his point.

paul
paul
Dec 4, 2022 2:52 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

If he’s so worried about overpopulation, why doesn’t he make a positive contribution by just offing himself?

John Crowther
John Crowther
Dec 3, 2022 5:55 PM
Reply to  Cloverleaf

Who does that arrogant cretin think he is he sounds like yet another deluded power obsessed psychopath hopefully he is in for a rude awakening

Viridis
Viridis
Dec 3, 2022 7:54 PM
Reply to  Cloverleaf

Behold the perfect example of the “chosen ones”- they are smarter than you!