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China: The World’s First Technate – Part 2

Iain Davis

Edited 17/12/22 by the author to correct a misattribution

In Part 1, we discussed the historical background of Technocracy Inc. that briefly found popularity in the US in the 1930s during the turmoil of the Great Depression.

Technocracy was rooted in socioeconomic theories that focused upon the efficient management of society by experts (technocrats). This idea briefly held the public’s attention during a period of sustained recession, mass unemployment and growing poverty.

The technological capabilities required for the energy surveillance grid, essential for the operation of a Technate (a technocratic society), were far beyond the practical reach of 1930s America. Consequently, for that and other reasons, public interest in the seemingly preposterous idea of technocracy soon subsided.

However, in recent decades, many influential policy strategists—most notably Zbigniew Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger—and private philanthropic foundations, such as the Rockefeller Foundation, recognised that advances in digital technology would eventually make a Technate feasible. As founding and leading members of the Trilateral Commission, a policy “think tank,” they saw China as a potential test bed for technocracy.

We will now consider their efforts to create the world’s first Technate in China.

These articles build upon the research found in my 2021 publication Pseudopandemic, which is freely available to my blog subscribers.

Why China?

In the West we often have difficulty understanding or even conceptualising Chinese mores. We tend to see the world in our own terms and are able to describe it only in reference to the principles and philosophical concepts that we are familiar with. Perhaps we forget that the Western perspective is not the only one in the world.

For example, as pointed out by students of the Chinese political philosophy of tianxia, there is no ontological tradition in China. In the Chinese philosophical mind, the question is not “What is this thing” but “What path does this thing suggest?”

Datong lies at the heart of “the Great Way,” first described in the Liyun chapter of the “Book of Rites” (the Liji), written more than 2,000 years ago. Recounting the teachings of Confucius, the chapter depicted a utopian society of the ancient past this way:

When the Great Way was practised, the world was shared by all alike. The worthy and the able were promoted to office and men practised good faith and lived in affection. Therefore they did not regard as parents only their own parents, or as sons only their own sons.

The “Rites” (or “li”) are the formal etiquette and behavioural conduct that underpin Chinese social order. Li also compasses the ceremony and rituals that reinforce normative standards.

Datong, which can be translated as “the Great Unity,” represents the central political and moral philosophy of the ideal Chinese society. In datong, everyone respects “the li” and is imbued with the Confucian virtue of “ren.” This love and benevolence (ren) is founded in human empathy. It first manifests within the family but extends to the whole of society.

Datong implies a society where the most able and virtuous lead, with ren foremost in their hearts and minds. All resources are shared equitably for the common good. In the Liyun chapter, the expression “the world is shared by all alike” is written as “tianxia weigong.” This can be translated as “all under Heaven is held in common” or “all under Heaven is publicly held.”

There is no place for private property in datong, because communities meet the needs of all. There is no conflict of interest. The Great Way is one of “Universal Harmony.”

The opening passage of the Liyun chapter also described xiaokang, the “lesser prosperity,” in which society still maintained li and ren but differed from datong in an important regard:

The world is the possession of private families. Each regards as parents only his own parents, as sons only his own sons; goods and labour are employed for selfish ends.

While datong describes a world where resources are “shared by all alike,” in xiaokang resources are in “the possession of private families.” Xiaokang was not seen as opposed to datong but rather on the path toward it, for li and ren were still observed. But there is a warning in the Liyun chapter that private property and the control of resources by private interests present a risk:

Therefore intrigue and plotting come about and men take up arms.

Kang Youwei’s book “Datong shu” (The Great Commonwealth) was published posthumously in 1935. Kang wrote it as a series of lecture notes, the earliest dating to 1884. Rather than view datong only as a lost utopia, Kang proposed datong as a future society that could be constructed. He viewed ren as the path toward establishing the common good for all, attainable by eliminating suffering and creating happiness.

Kang noted that ren was applicable not only to humanity but to the universe and all within it, and he called this “jen.” Jen gave rise, he said, to creation and to the establishment of universal order. Therefore, order should be based upon the same principle of the “compassionate mind.”

He drew upon the work of the Confucian scholar He Xiu, whose Gongyang theory of history described sociopolitical development as a path consisting of incremental, progressive stages. Kang built upon Gongyang’s work to plot a course toward the Great Unity.

In essence, Kang suggested that society could be reverse-engineered to achieve datong in the future. He identified “nine boundaries” of human suffering that needed to be deconstructed in order to reach datong. He said that datong could be attained once nation-states, social class, racism, sexism, families, private property, injustice, environmental destruction, and poverty (the result of social inequality and oppression) were abolished.

“Sages” or “persons of jen” would be needed to lead, Kang maintained. He acknowledged that the sages had to operate in the social, economic and political circumstances of their day and that the resultant laws and institutions might be oppressive and cause suffering. Therefore, the objective of the “person of jen” (sage) should be to reform the laws and organisations of the state with a view to eradicating the nine boundaries of suffering.

With the abolition of the nation state, Kang’s proposed path toward the Great Way extended far beyond China. He favoured a global society where a world government would rule over a planet that was divided into regional districts.

In this global society, there would be no class or private property, and all would strive to deliver the common good and benefit everyone. Specifically, all resources would be deployed for the benefit and happiness of all. Public institutions, not families, would raise children. And the children would be trained to become citizens who would provide free services, such as health care and education, for all.

The only distinction between people would be the badges of honour worn by those deemed to have great ren, or knowledge—that is, the sages. Ultimately, once datong exists, there would be complete harmony with nature, which in turn would mean that all human beings are vegetarians and that euthanasia would be practised with ren, for the common good.

The ideology of datong, as Kang expounded it, and the hope of following the Great Way have strongly influenced Chinese political philosophy throughout the 20th and 21st centuries. Xi Jinping has been heard on numerous occasions to repeat the phrase, “When the Great Way prevails, the world is for everyone.”

Seen from the Chinese philosophical perspective, the best anyone can hope for today is xiaokang. Thus, xiaokang sages must be free to reform the institutions of the state on the path toward removing the nine boundaries, achieving datong and leading the Great Way.

There are many parallels between this path and the socioeconomic theory underpinning technocracy. For those who wished to establish a global technate, China was a natural choice for their pilot project.

Understanding Technocracy

While there is a lot of debate about the extent of “legitimate” technocratic governance in the West’s supposedly liberal representative democracies, governance is just one aspect of technocracy. In other words, technocratic governance alone is not technocracy.

As discussed previously, a technocracy is a “governance of function.” The overarching goal is to run the whole of society as efficiently as possible.

The Technocracy Inc. Study Course states:

The basic unit of this organization is the Functional Sequence. A Functional Sequence is one of the larger industrial or social units, the various parts of which are related one to the other in a direct functional sequence. Thus among the major Industrial Sequences we have transportation (railroads, waterways, airways, highways and pipe lines); communication (mail, telephone, telegraph, radio and television); agriculture (farming, ranching, dairying, etc.); and the major industrial units such as textiles, iron and steel, etc. Among the Service Sequences are education (this would embrace the complete training of the younger generation), and public health (medicine, dentistry, public hygiene, and all hospitals and pharmaceutical plants as well as institutions for defectives)

Each “Functional Sequence” is overseen by a directorate. For example, the Distribution Sequence collects all the data gathered from the “Energy Certificates,” which are allocated to the citizens to be exchanged for goods and services. The “Price System” is abolished. There is no private property. The entire Technate is controlled by one body: Continental Control.

Like Kang’s “sages,” and in a fashion similar to guidance of the population toward the Great Way, a technocracy creates a rigid hierarchical structure to ensure that all are working for the common good. In the language of technocracy, the citizen contributes toward the appropriate service function.

Effectively, this creates a pyramid-like sociopolitical structure:

The personnel of all Functional Sequences will pyramid on the basis of ability to the head of each department within the Sequence, and the resultant general staff of each Sequence will be a part of the Continental Control. A government of function! The Continental Director, as the name implies, is the chief executive of the entire social mechanism. On his immediate staff are the Directors of the Armed Forces, the Foreign Relations, the Continental Research, and the Social Relations and Area Control. [. . .] The Continental Director is chosen from among the members of the Continental Control by the Continental Control. Due to the fact that this Control is composed of only some 100 or so members, all of whom know each other well, there is no one better fitted to make this choice than they.

Class is abolished in technocracy. Child care is provided by the Technate. Rather than having “great ren,” the general staff of the Technate are said to possess “peck-rights.” That is, they are the most suited to be at the top of the pyramid because a “governance of function” works most efficiently when “the right man is in the right place” to serve the common good.

Like the ideas presented in “Datong shu,” the intention of technocracy is essentially altruistic. The small cluster of engineers, economists, sociologists and other academics brought together by the Rockefellers and Howard Scott wanted to construct a society that would deliver “lives of abundance” to all.

It must be admitted that the Technocracy Inc. Study Course made some valid criticisms of a number of social problems. Unfortunately, the offered solution of a Technate is both arrogant and naïve.

It assumes, much as does the notion of a Great Way, that authority can be exercised by some human beings over other human beings for the common good. Further, it imagines that there is some social or political mechanism that can produce leaders who are omniscient and capable of defining what that “common good” is.

Both datong and technocracy would require human nature to undergo a fundamental transformation. Avarice, malevolence, narcissism, psychopathy and every other deleterious failing would need to be expunged from humanity. Until they are, power will continue to be sought by those who want to control others.

The most ruthless among us will ultimately succeed—often not because they are the most suited but because they are prepared to do what others won’t in order to gain the power they crave. This situation will persist for as long as we believe that someone or some organisation needs to have absolute authority over our lives in order for us to be able to cooperate effectively.

To imagine that concentrating all power in the hands of a tiny, select band of experts or sages will solve the problems caused by the unscrupulous and frequently violent and immoral use of authority is ridiculous. You can’t fix a kakistocracy by investing more power in the “kakistocrats.”

For the global public-private partnership (G3P), which operates a compartmentalised, hierarchical, pyramid-like power structure, the most enticing aspect of technocracy is the extreme centralisation of power and authority over vast swaths of the humanity. That is why, as soon as technological development permitted and the opportunity arose, the G3P set about assisting the development of a Technate in China.

Infiltrating China

The formal story of Henry Kissinger’s “secret” 1971 discussions with Chinese Premier Chou En-lai—officially acknowledged in 2001—is that US President Richard Nixon sent Kissinger to normalise relationships with the Chinese government as a counterbalance to the Soviet Union. What is mentioned less frequently, though, is Kissinger’s relationship with the Rockefellers.

In 1956, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund commissioned Kissinger to convene its Special Studies Panels. The panels investigated emerging global challenges and trends and suggested how US foreign policy might adapt to meet them.

In the 1961 publication of the six panel reports, Prospect for America (subtitled “The problems and opportunities confronting American democracy—in foreign policy, in military preparedness, in education, in social and economic affairs”), the Rockefeller Brothers Fund outlined how public-private partnership would be key to this projected future:

Corporations, whose operations extend through many nations[,] [. . .] through which a considerable and essential part of the world’s economic activities is carried on, must be able to compose diversities, adjust conflicts of interest, and adapt their operations to the needs of the country in which they operate. In doing so they represent a further example of multinational solutions to common problems.

The authors of these reports regarded private finance as essential not only for developing international markets but also for guiding the social and political development of the target nation:

Rapid economic growth can be achieved only if local savings and public foreign investment are supplemented by an increasing inflow of private foreign investment. Such investment performs two key functions: it adds to the capital resources of the host nation and it is the chief mechanism through which the managerial and technical skills and the creative and catalytic quality can contribute to economic development in less developed areas. [. . .] Private philanthropic capital can also play an important role in economic development.

The panels that provided the analysis for Prospect for America were convened in the aftermath of McCarthyism. They needed to appeal to a US polity still obsessed with the perceived threat of international communism. Thus, the reports eulogise so-called democracy throughout.

However, there are numerous indications that the Rockefeller foreign policy strategists were willing to diplomatically suggest alternatives:

The American pattern of private enterprise and voluntary association is not the only mold for a free society.

It is clear that these strategists sought to both exploit the differences between nation-states for their development potential and amplify the importance of global issues as a means of uniting nations, regardless of their model of government, under a system of global governance. They considered scientific and technological development one way to do just that:

In the field of science, international cooperation on a world scale is most readily achievable. [. . .] [T]he United States should, therefore, seek to develop a series of agreements, looking toward the stimulation of scientific interchange and the fostering of scientific progress on a world scale. [. . .] The Communist nations should be invited to participate.

The panels, which effectively formed a temporary Rockefeller-funded think tank, were not opposed to colonialism on moral grounds but they highlighted its tactical flaws. Inherent in their critique of colonialism was an acknowledgement that alleged democratic values have nothing to do with hard-nosed geopolitics or with expansive foreign policy ambitions:

While colonialism exacted a human and political toll, it also represented one of the greatest conversions in history. As the ideals of the British, French and American revolutions became diffused, partly through the very spread of colonialism, the seeds were sown for the destruction of colonialism itself. The more successful the teachings of the colonial powers, the more untenable grew their position. Almost without exception, the leaders of independence movements fought their rulers in terms of the rulers’ own beliefs. They asked them to live up to their own principles.

The Rockefellers, being one of the leading families at the head of the G3P’s compartmentalised hierarchy, had worked with the Chinese authorities for generations. John D. Rockefeller Sr. was trading kerosene in China in 1863.

The family’s philanthropic foundation had long fostered strong ties with the Chinese government. For example, it helped advance the use of Western allopathic medicine in China by establishing the Peking Union Medical College (PUMC) and by making other philanthropic investments.

It’s safe to say that the Rockefellers were knowledgeable and enthusiastic supporters of the Chinese government. Not surprisingly, they were also knowledgeable and enthusiastic supporters of the technocracy movement in the US, maintaining their keen interest in it despite its lack of public support. They understood the potential of social engineering to create a governance of function (a Technate):

Changes in technology have always been a major cause of change in government, economic relations and social institutions. But technological innovation is no longer the work of isolated, ingenious inventors; it is the product of organised scientific enterprise and is constant, insistent and accelerating. One of its notable effects is upon the tempo of social change itself, which is enormously quicker than it has been, and which subjects every inhabitant of a technological society to its pressures. Technological innovation thus poses a series of issues with which our society will have to deal. [. . .] The growth of technological society has changed the traditional society in which men have enjoyed freedom. Large and complex organisations have become the order of the day. [. . .] Programs for the preservation and strengthening of individual freedom must assume the existence and the inevitability of such organisations.

The Rockefellers had a nuanced appreciation of the potential for technological development to act as the catalyst for change. Despite the report’s primary focus on the US relationship with the Soviet Union, the Rockefellers obviously recognised the ripe opportunities in China:

It [China] has a rapidly growing population, a shortage of resources, and a fanatical ideology. Around a large part of its perimeter exists “soft” situations, making infiltration, subversion, and outright conquest seem easy or inviting prospects. The present relations between Soviet Russia and Red China [. . .] may not always be drawn together by common interests. [. . .] We must avoid, wherever possible, courses that seem to drive China closer to the Soviets.

As founders of the Trilateral Commission, the Rockefellers’ and their fellow Trilateralists’ goal was to infiltrate China by extending the hand of cooperative friendship through public-private investment in technological and thus financial and economic development.

The Sino-Soviet split was seemingly the window of opportunity they wished to lever open.

China’s society, its political history and government structure was already amenable to the introduction of technocracy, as it was to communism. The Trilateralists were apparently eager to avoid the mistakes of Western colonialists, who extolled the democratic ideals and associated legal concepts which had come back to bite them. These ideals were, in any event, antithetical to the Trilateralists’ project.

Assisting China

Following Mao’s death in 1976, Deng Xiaoping rose to power, becoming the Paramount Leader of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) in 1978. Just two weeks after assuming power, on January 1, 1979, he became the first communist Chinese leader to conduct a formal state visit to the US.

He was received with full state honours by the administration of Jimmy Carter, whose National Security advisor was Trilateralist Zbigniew Brzezinski—and who was himself a Trilateralist.

Deng Xiaoping immediately set about instigating a series of social and economic reforms, which were called “reform and opening up” in China and “the opening up of China” in the West.

Deng was one of a group of eight high-ranking Chinese officials who had survived the brutal repressions of cultural revolution. The reverently named “Eight Immortals” were credited with turning the Chinese economy from an unstable mess, riven with extreme poverty, into the thriving economic engine it is today.

Despite the hopes of datong, and far from being the sages that Kang Youwei dreamed of, the sons and daughters of the Eight Immortals, who are collectively known as the Princelings, hoovered up China’s state assets to effectively create a new dynasty, just as corrupt as its predecessors. Such is the nature of kakistocracy.

The scale and pace of the economic transformation in such a vast country would have been impossible without the considerable inward investment and the transfer of technology which China received from the G3P. This G3P investment was the initial source of China’s economic growth miracle. In late 2019, The World Economic Forum (WEF) reported:

High levels of government spending and foreign investment have enabled China to roughly double the size of its economy every eight years since the introduction of economic reforms in 1979.

CITIC (China International Trust & Investment Corp, renamed CITIC Group) was effectively China’s staterun investment arm. Kissinger’s visit to China had opened up investment banking opportunities for Rockefeller’s Chase Group (Chase Manhattan Bank at the time.)

In June 1980, CITIC Chairman Rong Yiren attended a meeting with David Rockefeller and the representatives of 300 Fortune 500 companies in the Chase Manhattan offices in New York.

The purpose of the meeting between CITIC and the G3P representatives was:

[To] identify and define those areas of the Chinese economy most susceptible to American technology and capital infusion.

Kissinger and Rong reportedly established an investment company, with Trilateralist Kissinger appointed as a special advisor to CITIC. The initial phase of China’s economic transformation consisted of banking reforms that allowed much greater Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) in China.

FDIs aren’t just capital investments. They typically come with a transfer or sharing of expertise, technology and even workforce. Common types of FDIs are mergers, acquisitions, management services and logistical and manufacturing agreements.

From the mid 1980s onwards the G3P began to pour into Beijing’s Central Business District (CBD).

By 2009 there were 114 Western companies with a substantial presence and established investments in Beijing and beyond. By 2020 there were 238 Fortune 500 companies in Beijing. Today, Beijing CBD (called the Functional Area) now houses the regional headquarters of 105 multinational corporations and more than 4,000 foreign-invested enterprises. The CBD is one of six “high-end industrial functional areas in Beijing.”

According to Chinese state media, between 1983 and 1991 FDI in China went from a value of $920 million to $4.37 billion. By 2019 total FDI had risen to more than $2.1 trillion. At the same time, the transition economy of China, just like many other economies, rapidly expanded its money supply.

All of this monopoly money, a mixture of FDI and domestic (digital) currency printing, fuelled the economic and technological development of China. In exchange for access to its market, the Chinese government required that investors sign so-called Forced Technology Transfer (FTT) agreements.

Simultaneously, the Western mainstream media (MSM) began constantly pushing the notion of the “rising threat” of China and frequently accused China of alleged industrial espionage and “technology theft.

Like so much propaganda aimed at Western populations by their MSM, these charges were just a fabrication. In truth, no one was forcing anyone to transfer technology to China. In fact, Trilateralists like President Bill Clinton went to considerable lengths to make sure China could get hold of the technology, including military technology, it needed.

In 1994 the Clinton administration scrapped Cold War export controls, thereby enabling more sensitive technology to be transferred to China. Claiming that they would not allow defence technology, such as supercomputer or potential uranium enrichment technology, to go to China (or Russia), they soon lifted this restriction via a work-around that shifed oversight from the departments of State and Defense to the Department of Commerce.

One only has to look at the near identical design of US and Chinese defence systems and weaponry to see that a massive amount of “sensitive” technology is common to both countries.

The asinine explanation we are given is that this is all the result of Chinese espionage, even though the US government has amended legislation to make such transfers possible.

The Israeli government and Israeli defence contractors have consistently acted as facilitators for the transfer of the most sensitive Western defence and surveillance technology to China. As soon as “reform and opening up” began in 1979, Israeli multibillionaire—then a humble billionaire—Saul Eisenberg flew a delegation of defence contractors to arrange military supply contracts with the Chinese government.

While the West’s MSM parrots the intelligence agencies’ overwhelmingly baseless claims that China represents an “immense threat,” the US government and others have maintained deep defence ties with the Israeli government for generations.

In the full and certain knowledge that Israel is passing defence technology to China, the US and other NATO allies continue to provide Israel with the latest defence technology.

Occasionally a story surfaces claiming that Washingtion is “angered” by this habitual practice. If we look beyond the propaganda, the fables simply reaffirm that which is blatantly obvious.

The Israeli government, its defence contractor and tech corporation partners, have consistently acted as a conduit for the transfer of “sensitive” defence, fintech, surveillance and communication technology from the West to China. Between 1992 and 2017 the volume of overall trade between Israel and China multiplied 200 times over.

Another Western propagandist myth is that China has “stolen” jobs from Western economies. While it is true that manufacturers took advantage of cheaper labour costs in China, leading to job losses in the West, the practice of offshoring jobs had been ongoing for decades.

Companies are in the business of maximising profits for shareholders and staying competitive. No one was forcing Western corporations to offshore. It was simply an economic expediency, largely the consequence of G3P efforts to modernise China’s economy.

Often the focus of G3P investment in China has been Research and Development (R&D). In 1994 China ranked 30th in terms of US overseas R&D investment; by 2000 it was 11th.

Between 1994 to 2001 multinational corporation (MNC) investment in China quadrupled. As a ratio of overseas R&D investment, the G3P were providing thrice the amount of “technology infusion” into China compared to anywhere else.

While the pseudopandemic sharpened the decline in total global FDI, that figure continued to rise in China.

The 4% increase of FDI in China in 2020 saw it temporarily surpass the US as the world’s leading recipient of direct investment. In 2020, while FDI in other advanced economies collapsed, China benefited from FDI valued at $163 billion.

In addition to the huge growth stimulus pumped into the Chinese economy over the last four decades, a significant number of foreign/Chinese industrial R&D alliances were established. These were separate business organizations that targeted specific research or technological development projects. They were formed through collaboration between academic and scientific research establishments, NGOs, government institutions and private enterprise.

Between 1990 and 2001 the US government established 105 such alliances. In the same time period, Japan had the second largest number of R&D partnership alliances (26), followed by Germany (15), the UK (14), Singapore (12), and Canada (11). The overwhelming majority of these R&D collaborations operated in China.

From 2001, to the financial crash in 2008, both FDI in R&D and China’s own R&D investment really took off. While the explosive pace of FDI growth slowed from 2010 onward, by 2016 China’s own outward foreign investment had surpassed the FDI it received. That was an astounding economic turnaround in less than 40 years.

A 2019 report by the World Bank stated:

China’s spending on research and development (R&D) rose to 2.18 percent of GDP in 2018, up from 1.4 percent in 2007[.] [. . .] Its spending on R&D accounts for around 20 percent of the world total, second only to the United States. Its number of patents granted annually for inventions increased from 68,000 in 2007 to 420,000 in 2017, the highest in the world. [. . .] China is also a hotbed for venture capital in search of the next technology. [. . .] China has evolved from being a net importer of FDI to a net exporter. [. . .] China remains an attractive destination for foreign investments due to its large domestic market. Foreign enterprises such as BASF, BMW, Siemens, and Tesla have recently announced new or expanded investments in China.

A focus of apparent Western concern has been China’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI).

This enormous infrastructure project, known in China as One Belt, One Road, or OBOR, is establishing a network of modern trade routes across Eurasia, linking Asia, Africa, Europe, South East Asia and Australasia, easing both international trade and, in particular, Chinese exports.

Beyond China’s borders there are 140 countries involved in the BRI to one degree or another.

In its 2018 research paper looking at FDI in a BRI-related project, the World Bank referred to those countries directly involved in its construction as BRI nations. China’s own investment in BRI nations has grown, but the majority of its FDI goes to non-BRI nations. These, according to the World Bank, are nations that are not inviolved in the BRI.

China is the leading single nation investor in BRI nations but it does not account for the bulk of total investment. China took the lead after the 2008 financial crisis saw non-BRI nations (such as the US and the UK) pull back on their FDI deals in BRI nations. The investment from the non-BRI nations picked up again as quantitative easing (money printing) monetary policies in Western countries took effect post-2010.

The World Bank reported:

The majority of BRI countries’ [those who are part of the One Belt, One Road project] FDI inflow comes from non-BRI countries.

That is to say, BRI nations—Italy, Saudi Arabia, Austria, New Zealand, South Korea and Singapore, etc.—are net recipients of FDI from non-BRI nations, such as the US, UK, France and Germany.

The majority of the investment, expertise and technology that is building the BRI infrastructure comes from the non-BRI G3P partners. The notion that Western politicians, corporations and financial institutions are worried about the Belt and Road Initiative is just an MSM story. In reality, they are working hard to construct it in partnership with China.

China: The World’s First Technate

China has developed an overt system dedicated to the social engineering of society.

As noted in Part 1, the definition of technocracy is:

The science of social engineering, the scientific operation of the entire social mechanism to produce and distribute goods and services to the entire population.

The focus of technocracy is to direct the population to maximise the efficiency of all “functions” of society, primarily through control of the allocation of resources.

Published in 2014, the State Council Notice for planning a Social Credit System (SCS) outlined the Chinese government’s rationale for its social credit system:

The social credit system is an important component of the Socialist market economy system and the social governance system; [. . .] its foundation is a complete network covering the credit records of all members of society and the credit infrastructure; [. . .] its reward and punishment mechanisms are incentivizing trustworthiness and restricting untrustworthiness. [. . .] The establishment of a social credit system is an important foundation for comprehensively implementing the scientific viewpoint of development. [. . .] Accelerating and advancing the establishment of the social credit system is an important precondition for promoting the optimized allocation of resources.

This is a description of pure technocracy.

Western commentators often focus upon the technological aspects of China’s social credit system. China certainly operates a dystopian surveillance society, but this complements the social credit system which, as the name suggests, is an overarching system for “implementing the scientific viewpoint of development.”

The Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) reported that the supposedly “terrifying system doesn’t exist” in China:

[T]he system that the central government has been slowly working on is a mix of attempts to regulate the financial credit industry, enable government agencies to share data with each other, and promote state-sanctioned moral values.

MIT and its funding partners, such as the Rockefeller Foundation, have consistently highlighted the potential merits of the social credit system (SCS).

When reading that material, we must separate the rhetoric of the engineers of the social credit system from its practical application.

Like the Great Way or technocracy or communism, the political philosophy underpinning the social credit system is presented by its advocates as progressive, humanitarian and benign. Naturally, the people who impose this system would also need to be progressive, humanitarian and benign, right?

Yet, while the social credit system is effectively a massive bureaucracy, combining the digital sharing of information with legislation and various paper-shuffling exercises, there are many aspects of it that are extremely concerning.

For one thing, it creates a public-private partnership that, by rewarding good behaviour, fosters public faith in the mechanisms of the state. For another, it punishes those who aren’t duly faithful.


The SCS removes access to “privileges” from people who have broken the law and even from those who haven’t. The concept of Joint Disciplinary Action in the SCS introduces the idea that, if found “untrustworthy,” a citizen or organisation so labelled will face broader social consequences, from having their right to fly removed to restricting their ability to book “high-class” tickets on trains to impeding their employment or business opportunities.

The SCS sets up a blacklist for those deemed to have committed “misdeeds.” Thus far it has predominantly punished those who have failed to pay court fines or those considered bad debtors.

Chinese state media have praised the courts’ partnership with tech giants like Sesame Credit—the credit-scoring system of the Alibaba Group subsidiary Ant Financial.

Chinese government data, gathered from the courts and elsewhere, has been combined with private data, gathered from social media, for the purpose of lowering the financial credit score of millions of people who have been “blacklisted.”

Public humiliation and shaming are commonly used to change the blacklisted’s behaviour. The Supreme Court maintains a database of “discredited individuals” (laolai). Tech companies like TikTok, owned by Chinese company ByteDance Ltd., publish laolai lists from the publicly available data to inform its users which companies and individuals have been “discredited.”

Technology enhances the social credit system.

To register a SIM cards and new SMART phones, Chinese users must by law use face scan technology. This biometric data then informs China’s already extensive and rapidly expanding national network of facial recognition cameras.

The surveillance grid, allowing entry to everything from bus depots to safari parks, is integrating with alleged emotion-recognition technology to assess an individual’s mood and “predict” their behaviour.

China’s internet is highly regulated via the “Measures on the Administration of Internet Information Services.” The government prohibits news bloggers from commenting on any policies or political developments without a license from the Cyberspace Adminstration of China (CAC).

Again, this system operates as a public-private partnership. There are eight licensed Internet Service Providers (ISPs) in China registered with the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT), but censorship largely occurs through the state’s partnership with fintech companies and social media platforms. The censorship is overseen by the Internet Information Office.

The Chinese have to register their personal details to use the popular social media platforms. The independent sale of SIM cards and network adapters is prohibited; the cards and adapters require similar registration upon purchase and prior to use.

The Chinese authorities can block foreign websites, restricting citizens access to information from outside China, and it is a crime for anyone to facilitate the illegal flow of prohibited information into China. The Chinese authorities have effectively created the crime of information-smuggling.

Beyond inciting crimes or advocating violence or terrorism, Article 12 of China’s Cybersecurity Law outlines the other types of information that Chinese people are not permitted to share:

[Users] must not use the Internet to engage in activities endangering national security, national honour, and national interests; they must not incite subversion of national sovereignty, overturn the socialist system, incite separatism, break national unity, [. . .] create or disseminate false information to disrupt the economic or social order, or information that infringes on the reputation, privacy, intellectual property or other lawful rights and interests of others, and other such acts.

In other words, no one is permitted to question the state in China. This doesn’t stop the people from doing so, but the associated risks are high. Political dissidents can certainly expect to be censored by the social media platforms, and prison sentences are a distinct possibility for those who speak out too vociferously.

Among the major geopolitical powers, China is leading in the development of Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC). CBDC is “programmable money” and the issuer can insert “smart contracts” to control what can be bought, where it can be used and who can use it.

Bo Li, the former Deputy Governor of the Bank of China and the current Deputy Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), speaking at the Central Bank Digital Currencies for Financial Inclusion: Risks and Rewards symposium, clarified smart contracts further:

CBDC can allow government agencies and private sector players to program [CBDC] to create smart-contracts, to allow targetted policy functions. For example[,] welfare payments [. . .], consumptions coupons, [. . .] food stamps. By programming, CBDC money can be precisely targeted [to] what kind of [things] people can own, and what kind of use [for which] this money can be utilised. For example, [. . .] for food.

At the 2022 World Economic Forum’s Davos gathering, the president of the Chinese Alibaba Group, J. Michael Evans, announced that the global tech corporation would soon roll out its personal “carbon footprint tracker.”

He said:

We’re developing, through technology, an ability for consumers to measure their own carbon footprint [. . .] That’s where they’re travelling, how they are travelling, what are they eating, what are they consuming on the platform. [. . .] So, individual carbon footprint tracker, stay tuned! We don’t have it operational yet, but this is something we’re working on.

During the initial COVID-19 lockdowns, China’s government required all businesses and public services to install Covid status app scanners, connected to the internet.

In order to access shops, restaurants, libraries, hospitals, etc., and to move between the newly created urban “zones,” the Chinese have to use their Covid app. In conjunction with the SIM and SMART phone registration requirements, combined with the biometric facial recognition technology, the public movements of the urban Chinese can be tracked 24/7 in real time by China’s public-private partnership.

The foundations for “the scientific operation of the entire social mechanism” have already been built in China. One of the major cities conducting some of its business in CBDC is Shanghai. In Shanghai’s Pudong “smart city” district, an AI integrated monitoring system is able to access the feeds from 290,000 surveillance cameras.

The deputy director of the smart city, Sheng Denden, explained the systems value to the Chinese government:

For the government, this is a tool for more efficient administration in the city.

China is not communist. It is a technocracy. It is the world’s first Technate.

The China Blame Game

As we have already discussed, the idea that Western governments are “opposed” to China’s government is frankly ridiculous. This is not to suggest that there aren’t tensions, but these spring from competition not trenchant animosity. China’s government, and its tech giant partners, are as much a part of G3P as any other nation. The propaganda, from both the West and the Communist Party of China, serves as a surface narrative designed to divide and rule the global population, and to exert control over the respective domestic populations.

The Trilateralists, who worked tirelessly to ensure that China was able to construct a Technate, were seemingly proud of their claimed achievements. In 2001, Time Magazine, whose CEO at the time was the Trilateralist Gerald (Jerry) Levin, published Made in The China: Revenge of the Nerds:

It’s no exaggeration to describe the current regime as a technocracy. [. . .] You might say that technocratic politics is a natural fit with the Chinese political culture. [. . .] During the 1980s, technocracy as a concept was much talked about, especially in the context of so-called ‘Neo-Authoritarianism.’ [. . .] The basic beliefs and assumptions of the technocrats were laid out quite plainly: Social and economic problems were akin to engineering problems and could be understood, addressed, and eventually solved as such. [. . .] Scientism underlies the post-Mao technocracy, and it is the orthodoxy against which heresies are measured.

The self-congratulation was largely misplaced. That China’s government developed a Technate owes more to that nation’s circumstances and political and social history and belief systems than it does to the ambitions of the Trilateralists.

Technocracy is intended to be a sociopolitical system where individual rights are sacrificed to communitarianism. This is contrary to the Western liberal tradition. Technocracy represented less of a culture shock to the Chinese people. Certainly this fact was another impetus for the Trilateralists to pilot technocracy in China.

Just as we in the West generally believe in individual liberty and freedom from the state, so the Chinese people largely hold that the state should strive to rule with ren along the path to the Great Way and equality for all. In both cases, the people continue to be deceived and disappointed by the “kakistocrats,” who clearly have no intention of living up to any of those principles or expectations.

The mass and widespread Chinese demonstrations against the human cost of the government’s harsh Covid lockdown measures shows that the people are not willing to simply allow the state to do whatever it likes.

While isolated protests in China are not unusual, the scale and coordination of these protests are testament to the Chinese people’s determination to resist oppression.

The Western investment in Chinese technocracy was made with a view to developing a global system, not one restricted to China. From the surveillance network and social credit to censorship and social control using CBDC, having seen what can be achieved in China, Western governments are busy trying to impose exactly the same model of technocracy upon their own people.

The Western political class cannot help but openly admire China’s technocracy. The only difference is that China’s system is publicly discussed—although rarely acknowledged as “technocracy” by name—while the rapidly emerging technocracy in the West is denied and concealed.

The G3P is ostensibly colonising Western populations yet remains eager to avoid the errors of 19th century colonialists. The Rockefellers’ research in the late 1950s highlighted the need to first justify the necessary destruction of democratic values—something all Western governments are working hard to do.

For its part, the Chinese government has had its own reasons for allowing technocracy to flourish. Technocracy fits well with China’s domestic policy ambitions. That said, there is no reason to think that the Chinese government ever intended to “export” technocracy to other nations.

Technocracy is being installed globally. This suits China’s oligarchy, accustomed as it is to operating a Technate. The Chinese government has no reason to stand in the way of the global adoption of technocracy. It is merely aligned with the global transformation, not leading it.

China’s government is not forcing other nations to adopt technocracy. Rather, all governments are collaborating to that end.

The Chinese people are not our enemy, and China is not a foe to be fought. We, the people of the Earth, are all under attack by our own G3P governments.

You can read more of Iain’s work at his blog IainDavis.com (Formerly InThisTogether) or on UK Column or follow him on Twitter. His new book Pseudopandemic, is now available, in both in kindle and paperback, from Amazon and other sellers. Or you can claim a free copy by subscribing to his newsletter.

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Antonym
Antonym
Dec 19, 2022 12:11 PM

Here the CCG as a link between the CCP and the WEF.

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Dec 17, 2022 1:10 PM

Correction:

The original article contains the following paragraph.

The Trilateralists who worked tirelessly to ensure that China was able to construct a Technate are seemingly proud of their claimed achievements. In 2001, Hedley Donovan, one of the founding members of the Trilateral Commission alongside Brzezinski and the Rockefellers, wrote:

That was my error. The paragraph now reads:

The Trilateralists, who worked tirelessly to ensure that China was able to construct a Technate, were seemingly proud of their claimed achievements. In 2001, Time Magazine, whose CEO at the time was the Trilateralist Gerald (Jerry) Levin, published Made in The China: Revenge of the Nerds:

Sorry for the error.

Howard
Howard
Dec 16, 2022 4:21 PM

Here’s an interesting article that may at first seem irrelevant to Mr. Davis’ article but, I believe, becomes increasingly relevant as time passes. It’s about space debris, and it kind of reinforces my view that humanity is on a crash course with extinction. We simply can’t – as in: won’t – stop or slow down our full throttle push to do everything we have the technical capacity to do.

Space Debris Expert: Orbits Will be Lost—and People Will Die—Later this Decade – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization

John
John
Dec 16, 2022 1:30 PM

The fake NWO they present you will fail and they know it. That is why they have prepapred their real more subttle bait that is the real spiritual NWO.
Also is you believe what they say then you nourish their sceanrio with your energy and yoru heart magnetic power. So humans need to learn to be more conscious on what the put their focus and belief on, because if you believe them you are helping them manifesting by providing your life-force energy into the creation matrix that is associated with your beliefs. It’s all about belief and acting consciouly. That’s why they insist in controlling the narrative.
https://centralsun.substack.com/

Gruszenka
Gruszenka
Dec 16, 2022 6:28 AM

Very profound insight.
I wold like to add.
Envying
Personal score system
First minute the best became terrorism suspected.
The rest just imagine.
For me all Boris Viann books as the best future plot.
Highest personal score people as the most precious first broken by the enemies of the country or a company limited responsible.
Then slavery of the highers. Block chains for the rest.
The very caring human rights defenders who were supposed to be the best candidates to rule them all …
Well. Charlie Chaplin a movie about Hitler.

I live now in Heart Snatcher.
My control panel is less intelligent envying me every little thing.
I used to feel rather middle of the Middle
Now. The Clever. The Beautiful and the Good One.Fair. Brave. I hadn’t been so in love with myself ever.
And never been so psychopathic.
I wish myself Worldwide war.and be one of the first victims.
I am 100% sure God is Love. SO there will be no immortality 2.0.
Kind regards

Hank
Hank
Dec 16, 2022 3:55 AM

Why does this place put every post on pending when they don’t agree with what you say without letting people know why?

Are you not allowed to say anything negative about the author or their friends?

Please show this post and explain to everyone why?

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 15, 2022 5:04 PM

The uncontrollable rage I keep feeling when I see the manure so ruthlessly and ceaselessly pooted out by the media is based on an anachronistic feeling that these channels ought to have integrity, that they ought to have at least a minimal standard of decency. Yes utterly stupid. See this from CNN:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/14/health/covid-bivalent-vaccine-young-children-wellness/index.html

The nonchalance of the title is an obscenity:

“What parents should know about Covid vaccine boosters for kids age 5 and under”

That tells you everything you need to know. If there was a shred of integrity here, there would not even be a question. Just a scream:

“Genocidal attack on children and babies now exposed for the utter evil it is!”

Instead we have a question and answer session as if we were discussing some kindly avuncular concerned explication to guide everyone into the safest pathway etc.
But it is an unchanging and entirely bought protection racket.
 

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 15, 2022 11:54 PM
Reply to  George Mc

From Midnight’s Children

“Children are the vessels into which adults pour their poison.”

– Salman Rushdie –
(Born June 19, 1947)

Howard
Howard
Dec 16, 2022 1:45 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Babies aren’t yet big enough to traffic; so the “elites” have little interest in what happens to them.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 15, 2022 3:42 PM

Interesting that the author mentions Confucius (Confuse-us) yet fails to mention Lao Tze – a contemporary of Confucius, who lived approximately 550-500 BC.

Most authors completely miss the point that these two had very little in common in terms of philosophical belief. One difference being, that most Confucius schools were State funded indoctrination centers – teaching conformity to the State, not Nature…

The Tao-Te-Ching (The Way) was an anti-authoritarian treatise which posits that the way of virtue lies in non-action (Wu Wei) through a recognition of the natural, universal force known as the Tao. Lao Tze’s treatise is one of the most important philosophical works ever written. That’s why it remains almost unheard of…

China can shove its authoritarian wet dreams up its polluted and robotized ass-hole…

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 16, 2022 7:22 AM

Here is my summary of the many quotes and misquotes attribited to him:
When virtue is lost, benevolence appears. When benevolence is lost, right conduct appears. When right conduct is lost, expedience appears, foretelling disorder. When cleverness and knowledge arise, great lies flourish.

This certainly will not satisfy the gung-ho go-getters of the world.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Dec 16, 2022 2:29 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Excellent quote, mego. I have several interpretations of the Tao-te-Ching. My translation by Victor H. Mair seems to allow the subtlety to come through. Some texts I’ve read lose sight of the deeper intent. It is not an easy text for the rigid western psyche…

Mucho
Mucho
Dec 15, 2022 2:50 PM

I’m pleased to see someone finally making the point that it doesn’t matter what system of government is in place, because while a bunch of criminal, pieces of human shit, like the scum running the UK and the rest of the Western (whole) world, are in power, we will never be free.

These people – exemplified so neatly by the life and times of criminal, war criminal, Communist and world wrecker Henry Kissinger – need to be exposed for what they are, and run out of town by the public who they have been screwing their whole lives. I am sick of living in this world, run by these scumbags, but it never gets properly discussed, and no-one knows what is going on.

If you are interested in what Ian has written about here, you will find the work of Brendon O Connell very interesting too. He has done a lot of work in this field including exposing Israel as the go between in the legitimised theft of US technology which it then SELLS to China. This has been achieved by “technology sharing” agreements, which Brendon has been demonstrating for a number of years:

Bi National Research and Development – BIRD

Bi National Agricultural Research and Development – BARD

Bi National Science Foundation – BSF

All set up under the influence of Kissinger, who has done more than his fair share to destroy America. But this has all been achieved with the complicity of treasonous US crime families like Rockefeller and Bush, for example. It’s a big club. Kay Griggs exposed so much of what they do and how they operate. She lays the whole thing out here

We have the evidence, we have the names.

colin buchanan
colin buchanan
Dec 15, 2022 1:57 PM

The West are hostile to China in my view. That is because the Western powers are oligarchies which oppose a strong centralised state capable of checking their interests. For that reason, the abolition of cash is impossible in the West whose ruling mafia depend on it to corrupt parliament, to traffic drugs, people and arms and to fund covert operations. Ask the EU politician who has just been caught with 600.000 dollars in a suitcase in her flat to vote to abolish cash (well, she might do now!) Social control in the West cannot reside with the state since that power could be used against the oligarchs. The oligarchs control the population basically through smart phones. These enabled the tracking of people at all times, eavesdropping on their communications and listening in to their conversations. Just to make sure people have such a device they are being made increasingly indispensable. And the people of course are gaily buying into their own digital enslavement to Big Telecom while falling for fear campaigns against the CCP

sok
sok
Dec 15, 2022 7:50 PM
Reply to  colin buchanan

The state is incapable of checking our interests.
In the west we do it for ourselves.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 15, 2022 12:28 PM

An article in something called Spectrum is titled, “The link between maternal infection and autism, explained” … which is a lie since,

“It’s not yet clear whether maternal infection actually contributes to a child’s autism or is just somehow more likely to occur among the mothers of autistic children. Here we explain what scientists know about the connection.”

What “scientists” “know” (it’s hard to figure out when to use scare quotes) is that there may or may not be a connection between infection and autism.

But … hang on a minute? Aren’t we missing something here? Could there not be a connection between autism and vaccination? Knowing how much of an issue this is, you’d expect them to address it.

They don’t. They don’t even mention it.

The whole purpose of the article is to mention two words constantly: “infection” and “autism”. Thus creating a connection. Implication: covid creates autism UNLESS you get the vax WHICH IS COMPLETELY SAFE!

Mucho
Mucho
Dec 15, 2022 1:34 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Your point being……?

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 15, 2022 2:00 PM
Reply to  Mucho

The endless presuppositions of the covid faith. Pretty bloody obvious really.

Oh hang on, it’s Mucho. Alright then….

Fuckin’ commie bastards! Bolshie shits! Fuckin’ Marxist Kissinger!

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 15, 2022 1:50 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Here is the link:

https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/the-link-between-maternal-infection-and-autism-explained/#:~:text=Being%20hospitalized%20with%20an%20infection,1%20percent%20to%201.3%20percent.

Note how the possible causes with autism are listed as “parent’s genetics or their nutrition, environmental exposures, age and weight during pregnancy” and a whole host of other things BUT NEVER VACCINES.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 15, 2022 1:57 PM
Reply to  George Mc

An article in Medical-News (one of the bullshit epicentres) is headed:

“Long-term immune response to SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination similar in pregnant people”

After the requisite gish-gallop, the final paragraph spills the beans:

“We hope our findings encourage more pregnant individuals to get vaccinated,”

Which could have been the beginning and middle as well as the end.

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Dec 15, 2022 5:08 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“pregnant people”

“pregnant individuals”

Sic.

Is anyone surprised to see the “trans” newspeak used by the “vaccine” sales force? It’s all part of the same technocratic antihuman antiscience package-deal.

The taboo word “women” appears precisely once in the entire screed, and only because, inconveniently, the authors have to mention the actual name of a hospital:

“Dr. Yang and colleagues found anti-spike IgG antibodies in cord blood from the vaccinated pregnant individuals who gave birth at NewYork-Presbyterian Alexandra Cohen Hospital for Women and Newborns,”

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 15, 2022 8:01 PM
Reply to  Patrick L.

The Cambridge Dictionary has redefined woman – and man too:

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/15/us/cambridge-dictionary-woman-definition-trans-cec/index.html

While the Cambridge Dictionary’s primary definition for “woman” remains “an adult female human being,” a second definition refers to “an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth.” Similarly, the British reference guide defines “man” as “an adult male human being” and also “an adult who lives and identifies as male though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth.”

Thus X is now one who “lives and identifies as” X.

Also, where have you been Patrick? You are sorely missed. By me at any rate.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Dec 16, 2022 1:31 AM
Reply to  George Mc

George sorry
That’s used in HIV further meditations pills etc. Think in what context does it apply….similar those who are or thinking of becoming pregnant..etc

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 16, 2022 7:32 AM
Reply to  George Mc

We should also keep in mind that autism (turning some toddlers and young children into near-vegetables) has been increasing steadily for decades. “Coincidentally”, this parallels the increase in the types, numbers and changes in combinations of compulsory jabs.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Dec 16, 2022 10:09 AM
Reply to  mgeo

Autism is a spectrum. Very few autistic people would qualify as “near-vegetables”.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 15, 2022 11:46 AM

Top-notch article. Did Karl Marx plagiarise from these Chinese ideas?

the question is not “What is this thing” but “What path does this thing suggest?”
One cannot go to the 2nd. question before considering the first.

all human beings are vegetarian
They forgot the rights of plants.

in a fashion similar to guidance of the population toward the Great Way, a technocracy creates a rigid hierarchical structure
In the Great Way, most people theoretically act based on conviction, not coercion.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Dec 15, 2022 11:38 AM

Conspiracy Theorists

The media I understand has had “conspiracy theorists” gun down the constabulary in Queensland. Ominuous. Politicians apparently have wept in parliament for the “victims”.

Ananda
Ananda
Dec 15, 2022 10:07 AM

Notice how the government letters seem to have arrived on time. They have priority that is why!
All this crap about postal strikes, so far it only effects the season greeting cards, parcels, other documentation which isnt government. ( normal people stuff )
It is exactly like this time last year- Lorry drivers U.K to Dover to E.U crossings ritualistic timed strike.
Who wants to bet the gas and electric bill letters wont be delayed and will arrive in time for the inverted solstice ritual to juice you with the how much!

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Dec 15, 2022 9:04 AM

Shaul Eisenberg

Shaul Eisenberg was to China what Armand Hammer was to the USSR.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 15, 2022 7:31 AM

We are living in a world in which totalitarianism is increasingly becoming the norm. I wake up to two new blows – a typically brutal and stupid attack on J K Rowling from the Independent and the more disturbing news that the Cambridge Dictionary has changed the definition of “woman” to include anyone who “feels like” a woman. Truly, a tiny minority of malevolent psychopaths now have control of everything and can shape “Science” itself.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 15, 2022 8:04 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The Independent hack, one Ryan Coogan, indulges in typical misrepresentation by claiming that JKR sees trans people as if they are spiders. At the risk of succumbing to the rhetorical trap, I wonder if there is a sly reference to the truth here. It is not that trans people are like spiders. They are mostly sad dupes conned into mutilating themselves. But the trans movement is like a spider “laying eggs in our mouths” – a hugely revealing phrase.

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 15, 2022 8:13 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The Cambridge Dictionary alteration is reported in The Times and is justified by a bit saying how “editors looked at how the word was being used in society”. The meaning of “woman” has not altered in any society that I see. But it HAS altered in the media. Of course by this point, it is clear that when the media say “society”, it means the media!

Patrick L.
Patrick L.
Dec 15, 2022 12:56 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“editors looked at how the word was being used in society”.

Ah, very good. So now “loose” means the same as “lose”?

“Of course by this point, it is clear that when the media say “society”, it means the media!”

Society is the thing that debutantes make a formal entrance into, nowadays by getting a placement at the Guardian or the BBC.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Dec 16, 2022 4:22 AM
Reply to  Patrick L.

Media are Websters, what are you doing chopping it into more pieces.
You fucking idiot! LOL!
Heh, use a Bacon Slicer….you done you sure…good.

Hank
Hank
Dec 16, 2022 3:46 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The Independent?

People now complain about twitter then read the independent?

MSM is the enemy.

Hsuan
Hsuan
Dec 15, 2022 4:51 AM

Speaking of technocracy, this is pretty disturbing:

EctoLife: The World’s First Artificial Womb Facility

https://odysee.com/@BehindTheMatrix:7/EctoLife-The-World%E2%80%99s-First-Artificial-Womb-Facility:0

According to the inventor of this technology, Hashem Al-Ghaili, these womb pods are “already available, but ethical constraints do not make it a reality.” (India Times)

It’s only 8:40 long. Watch it to the end.

Ananda
Ananda
Dec 15, 2022 10:15 AM
Reply to  Hsuan

It will save lives, reduce hospital admissions, as child birth does kill mothers during birth which is dangerous and will save the NHS !!
you no the spill.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Dec 16, 2022 1:32 PM
Reply to  Hsuan

An X file Pun jab worth keeping A Eye on.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Dec 16, 2022 3:45 PM
Reply to  Hsuan

Thank you it was on Net. From a natural reverse engineering stand point, I find it amazingly interesting. One nominal being transplants but not only Blood.
The common denomination there’ll be already countless millions of publications in Medical and Science. Furthermore the language discourse will be Webster it has to be.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Dec 15, 2022 4:40 AM

I remember watching black and white film reels in the sixties of the communist Chinese, how they all looked the same, no smiles, obedient and brainwashed. Same thing with the Soviet Union or any of the communist countries, a couple of which I visited in the 80’s while still under communism. I played basketball in the 80’s against a few commmunist teams and they were all the same, like fucking robots. Maybe that’s not who they really were, but that’s how they acted.

It’s kind of like my work. I tell people we used to get more done without computers than we do today with computers. Seems to me, the Chinese were just as controlled in the sixties without technology as they are now, if not more.

So maybe technology isn’t the real problem when it comes to the crux of the matter.

It’s called Freedom. How the fuck did we forget about Freedom?

Edwige
Edwige
Dec 15, 2022 11:10 AM

Beware about the context in which words are used – their masterful speaking means they don’t usually mean what people are led to believe.

“Freedom” in the US context meant freedom from God for its Gnostic/Freemasonic creators. That may sound appealing until you realise that they consider gender a whim of the malicious demi-urge and want to put your child on toxic drugs before amputating a healthily functioning organ to show God who’s boss down here. They really are that insane.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 15, 2022 12:39 PM

Sustained propaganda and peer pressure will make you forget anything.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Dec 16, 2022 8:57 PM

Oh Mother! Your Freedom led to OUR Lockdown. Your Freedom led to OUR Being Locked OUT.
WE are STILL having OUR WORLD CUP in December!
Merry Christmas!

les online
les online
Dec 15, 2022 2:41 AM

“What are you prepared to give up ?” That is The Question !
You decide, or They will decide for you…
or “They’ll own everything. And you wont be happy !”

‘Degrowth’ is creeping towards center stage, seeking the limelight…
The Maddison Avenue Admen were instrumental during the post WW2 consumer boom years in influencing the change in America’s frugal consumption habits to prodigal habits…They’ll be paid well to encourage support for degrowth…

Guilt is a powerful weapon !
“Ask not what your country can do for you;
ask what you can do for your country !”

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/12/14/nature-jumps-the-shark-degrowth-can-work-heres-how-science-can-help/

“…there’s a battle outside
and it’s ragin’
It’ll soon shake your windows
and rattle your walls…” (1960s folksinger)

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Dec 15, 2022 8:39 AM
Reply to  les online

‘Degrowth’ FFS! We just can’t bring ourselves to say the heretical, taboo words, can we:

Sustained economic shrinkage.

That’s the new, persistent reality of the immediate future, just getting going now, and sure to be accelerated by all the BRI, BRICS+, SCO, etc. ferment currently all the rage in the rising replacement power bloc for the failing Anglozionist empire, as it – the new bloc – continues to suck up the depleting vital commodities that keep it all going.

Peak Everything is already on us. We really need to deal with this over-arching reality.

les online
les online
Dec 15, 2022 8:46 PM

Sustained economic shrinkage – has a better ring to it than ‘controlled demolition’…Dont want to scare the chooks !
So henceforth, how about ‘sustained population shrinkage.’ ?
And at 74 i experience other shrinkages ! Inconvenient ones, too…

niko
niko
Dec 14, 2022 11:52 PM

War is the health of the state. Randolph Bourne’s adage is as ancient as empire. War has long been a go-to solution to the problems of unjust governance in class-based social systems: turn subject populations upon an enemy over there to turn them from the enemy here on the home front of oppression. Hence the reciprocity in Stanley Diamond’s observation that (imperial, class-based) civilization originates in conquest abroad and repression at home.

In the modern era of capitalist class rule, nation-states have been fundamentally instrumental in forming collective identity of domestic (subject) populations. When the go-to, divide-and-rule strategy is at work – and under permanent war economy and policy that’s 24/7 – us and them are cast in terms of national identity. What this conceals on both domestic and foreign fronts is of particular interest to the imperial, grow-or-die nature of class rule in extending power beyond limits like that of the nation-state, especially in its earlier colonial development and related world wars/controlled demolitions of the twentieth century.

Pax (Pox) Americana was the preferred solution to the end of the colonial era. The defender of the free world (at risk to people and planet) led a new economic plan of build-back-better recovery through the corporate state welfare system forged by war (military Keynesianism), in order to manage a new internationalism of global capital, with globocap’s globocop, aka the Washington consensus, calling the shots from Bretton Woods throughout the neoliberal era, enhanced by Cold War cover for East-West technology transfers.  

The noble lies of the twentieth century, whether under private or state capital, like all the age-old mythology of peace, prosperity, harmony, liberty and justice for all, have certainly suffered under the weight of their own absurdity in all their bloody history. But above all they may now be discarded for the latest edition of imperialism, whether unipolar or multipolar: the Technate.

The Technate brings the national security state into the era of biosecurity, from zero covid to zero carbon enabling a permanent state of siege upon national populations by rule of transnational technology for a prison planet of human resources. In particular, the technological ensemble of genetic and digital engineering has been developed by corporate state science all about population management, aka eugenics, as to offer ruling powers a perfect means of control of labor power, policing body and mind by internal colonization, to serve an advanced machinery, 4th industrial revolution, to make both class war and humanity obsolete.

What rational psychopath wouldn’t have wet dreams with all the Technate offers: 5G internet of things and bodies and digital IDs and biometrics and social credit and CBDCs and UBIs and ESGs and DEWs…there’ll be no exit from this matrix. Whatever degree of credence one might give to science fiction and fact, it’s the essential bizzness of the system of (re)production and its representatives in positions of institutional rule to advance this paradigm shift of power over the masses of us, the 99%.  

No matter how maldeveloped hacking the software of life might be, therefore, we now serve as the lab rats for the Great Reset. Biotech produces bioweaponry with no pretense of trials and Neuralink’s being fast-tracked for human mutants past animal victims in half a year. And if good old time war, as in Ukraine or…, facilitates the transitional process by such means as continuing the global coup’s economic austerity and state terror, including nuclear, all the better, for them, and worse, for us. Yes, we’re now in a world war – with the organized crime of class rule poised to commit unprecedented crimes against humanity. I just hope, against hope or hopium, there’s enough humanity left among us from all the class war past to fight back.

les online
les online
Dec 15, 2022 12:05 AM
Reply to  niko

The cleverness of The Elite is how They’ve provided us with the means to build our own prison…We’re all so eager to own the 5g devices that are essential for the global surveillance prison society to work…Maybe the radiation from such devices has cooked our brains ?

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 14, 2022 11:12 PM

Ever since I watched the film The Red Lantern many moons ago and, more recently, saw various videos of how the Chinese treat their people (and their pets) as part of a supposed virus epidemic measure, I know that “ren” does not reside in the Chinese heart, especially not in the hearts of those who consider themselves the benevolent guardians of the people.

We all instinctively know what’s behind the saying “we’re doing this for your own good” or similar. Nothing beats autonomy.

les online
les online
Dec 14, 2022 11:03 PM

“They dont set out to enslave (the populations), They are driven by the need to protect Themselves. Dont be distracted by surface phenomena – such as ‘greed'”. anon…
The Book of Rites reads like an anthropology: a Guide for A Ruler. Expected behaviours …Expressed in ‘philosophy’ is an absence, a sense of loss of (an earlier) natural existence…
Ritualised behaviour is both a warding-off and propitiation… anon

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 14, 2022 9:57 PM

https://fortune.com/well/2022/12/13/covid-unvaccinated-greater-risk-car-crash-traffic-accident-new-study-says-canada-government-records-pfizer-moderna/

Truly pathetic:

“People who skipped their COVID vaccine are at higher risk of traffic accidents, according to a new study
….
Of course, skipping a COVID vaccine does not mean that someone will get into a car crash. Instead, the authors theorize that people who resist public health recommendations might also “neglect basic road safety guidelines.”

Why would they ignore the rules of the road? Distrust of the government, a belief in freedom, misconceptions of daily risks, “faith in natural protection,” “antipathy toward regulation,” poverty, misinformation, a lack of resources, and personal beliefs are potential reasons proposed by the authors.”

The source for this – Fortune – is one of the central sewers of the mainstream deception along with The Atlantic, Medical-News, The Conversation, and so many others I can’t even recall now. The same miserable names keep coming up.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Dec 14, 2022 10:39 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Or maybe the majority that got the jab are causing accidents that the unjabbed get hit in.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Dec 14, 2022 11:22 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Actually, car accident rates are up in the vaxxed countries. I mean, you don’t just suffer a stroke, cardiac arrest or sudden adult death while at home watching TV….

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 15, 2022 1:41 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

You could, but you are likely to kill a few others if (a) you got jabbed and (b) were driving.

Ananda
Ananda
Dec 15, 2022 10:36 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Reduced car insurance for thoses updated with the latest wonder cure as it has been known and “car scientifically shown” to reduce the risks…..
to easy….

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Dec 14, 2022 9:04 PM

A very informative article but I think it suffers from the problem identified early in the text — we’re viewing China through our Western lenses, assuming that they’re just another play in our Great Game. I think they’re far too clever for that. I think they’re doing what they were advised to do in the face of opposition — bend like a reed in the wind. They’re playing our game just enough to keep us at arm’s length. We, OTOH, are desperate to have some kind of tangible thing we can oppose which leaves us spending all of our energy running around tilting at windmills. I’d venture to suggest that they don’t really care what we think or how our bankers bank unless this impacts them – so long as we’re good for trade and leave them alone they’re not interested in us. (Just like the old days when the Chinese saw the world and withdrew behind their wall regarding the rest of the world as barbaric, not worth bothering with.)

Its also interesting to see how communism is such a good fit for them. This does fit with the notion that the only inventions worth knowing are western ones — we have to invent a philosophy, give it a name and intellectual underpinnings and then bestow it on our eastern neighbors. (This actually didn’t work — in the 1920s the Chinese Communist Party followed the Marxist/Leninist line but after an abortive attempt at revolution the party split and the CCP changed direction, adapting for the specifics of Chinese society.)

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Dec 15, 2022 12:11 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Interesting that 2020-22 you advocated relentlessly for the reality of the fake pandemic & now you are here advocating for the reality of the oppositional East-West binary.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Dec 15, 2022 6:26 AM

I wish it was fake. While it was at arm’s length it felt unreal but over the last six months or so many people I know have succumbed to it, most fortunately only getting what feels like a very bad flu.

The thing that’s difficult to get over is that while the disease itself may be real a lot of the froth around it is just, well, froth.Covid was ‘just another disease’ until the political manipulators got to work on it. The result has been ‘interesting’.

East/West opposition has been a reality for all of my life. ‘The System’ (as we know it in the west) is shored up by constant warfare against anything that might threaten its hegemony. We’ve defeated socialist ideology and we’ve been intellectually cementing that victory by first of all redefining ‘left wing’ to mean something other than a political ideology and economic theory in the popular imagination. Part of this process is to convince our intellectuals that “they’re the same as us”, its a notion that periodically turns up. My contribution, such as it is, is to mention that ‘bending like a reed in the wind’ is pure Mao thought and the notion that when push comes to shove the Chinese really don’t give a damn what we think provided we’re available to trade with and we don’t pose too much of a threat to them. (…and as I’ve remarked before, the threat that they pose to us isn’t military but rather the idea that their social organization is catching. They’ve turned a destitute society into a global leader in one generation so who knows what other ‘undeveloped’ societies could do if they stopped being colonial vassals.)

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Dec 15, 2022 9:01 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Exactly Martin: a bad flu. That’s all it ever was. Maybe tampered somehow in a biowar lab; maybe not even that, but never anywhere at any time anything worse than that, with the usual paltry IFR of any flus: a pseudo-pandemic, ginned up by criminal conspirators. Do catch up!

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Dec 15, 2022 9:28 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

This post is nonsense and a waste of space.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Dec 15, 2022 9:25 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

China did want to be left alone. As did Japan and Korea. They had a trade surplus because of tea exports. The banksters don’t take no for an answer. China was broken down with the opium trade and the opium wars. Eventually Mao and Marxism were foisted on them. Just as Christianity was forced on the Roman empire. Japan was placed on a different trajectory after Perry forced his way in. They were built up as an unsinkable aircraft carrier. Their navy was built up and defeated the Czar’s navy in 1905 at the time of the first attempted revolution. Both countries ended up as sweat shops eventually.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Dec 17, 2022 12:11 AM

Fuck me, Who pushes Drugs: Marx & de Spencer.

Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Dec 14, 2022 8:08 PM

Very interesting – was not aware of the philosophical underpinning of China’s adoption of this stuff he details early in the piece but it makes sense. They’re clearly leveraging the tech part – I think we in the West are still ahead pure propoganda wise though. People are cheering for the destruction of those enlightenment values Iain mentions.

WillianHill
WillianHill
Dec 14, 2022 7:26 PM

It was American greed and hubris and a belief in its own superiority, that caused the transfer of its manufacturing base to China. As they promised their own people the service economy would replace the jobs. As it turned out confetti dollars replaced the manufacturing jobs.

Imperial vanity led the US to expect the Chinese to become as corrupt and treasonous to their own people, as US politicians had become to theirs, & like the vassals of the UK or Canada had.

The Silk road project, linking Europe, Russia and Asia, excludes the USA, which is why the USA is doing all it can to halt its progress. This is one of the main reasons for the Ukraine war. Just look at the route, where you will find the CIA present trying to overthrow any Chinese sympathetic government.

This was the USA’s biggest political mistake, but based on its own flawed economic ideology and dogma that greed is always good, letting the market & corporations steer their development has cost them their empire.

Maybe they thought the empire would take hold of China in same way the East India company took hold of India, but it didn’t, the Chinese were too wise and wary for that to happen.

I suppose you can pretend the US is pro the Chinese silk road, which does not help the USA at all, so you can save some face, but not much more. The silk road project damns the US to total irrelevance.

Technology is irrelevant to this discussion, as useful as discussion guns to find an understanding of the Russian revolution.

NickM
NickM
Dec 16, 2022 4:11 PM
Reply to  WillianHill

“Technology is irrelevant to this discussion”.

True, insofar as it concerns the age-old antinomy between “Freedom and Organization”. But insofar as technology depends on science which is our connection with objective reality, Chinese and Persian and Russian technology is very relevant to the present attempt to start WW3 between West EurAsia and East EurAsia (pace the author’s claim that “they’re all in it together”). True, these countries fiercely resist Western hegemony because they are psychologically driven by different religious, ideological and cultural motives. But also, on the level of objective reality, they can withstand NATZO’s self-proclaimed “irresistible armed might” and “financial strangulation from hell” because they have good technology: this gives them real weapons to fight with and real goods to sell.

For instance, after going hell bent to destroy Russia’s economy, German Chancellor Stollz has magnanimously made Russia an offer to resume trade: But what can Germany now sell that Russia itself cannot make or buy from Persia and China?
.

Voz 0db
Voz 0db
Dec 14, 2022 7:11 PM

Bloomberg reported that as soon as this week, the Biden administration could place Chinese chip maker Yangtze Memory Technologies (YMTC) and over 30 other Chinese firms on a trade blacklist that would prevent them from acquiring US semiconductor components.  

The action would mark another escalation in the deepening US-China technology war. Washington is trying to crush China’s ability to develop and manufacture advanced chips for military applications. 

People familiar with the US Department of Commerce’s move expect YMTC and the 35 other companies could be added to the so-called “Entity List” as early as this week. Once the companies are on the list, US suppliers must apply for special licenses to ship even low-grade items overseas. 

The USofT and their servants (UK and EU and Australia) is going to do to China the exact same thing they’ve been/are doing to Russia!

NickM
NickM
Dec 17, 2022 7:01 AM
Reply to  Voz 0db

They will get the exact same result: blowback. It was not Russia that suffered from Stollz refusing to open the tap on a brand new pipe to Germany’s major gas supplier. It was not China that suffered from depriving a Dutch chip foundry of its major market.

“He that diggeth a pit for his foe the same shall fall therein” — The Good Book.

Joe
Joe
Dec 14, 2022 7:11 PM

Nearly every aspect of modern society is designed with your enslavement in mind https://joeanderson.substack.com/p/nearly-every-aspect-of-modern-society

George Mc
George Mc
Dec 14, 2022 7:07 PM

Off topic but Scarlet Fever is the latest viral ejaculation. Pardon my ignorance but I thought SF was one of those eradicated ones. I certainly don’t recall hearing much about it till now. It appears to be related to that streptocurricular thing. Well there’s a surprise. On surfing around I find that SF has never been away but – pardon my paranoia – I am now developing a suspicion that not only do the media lie but they can re-jig the past anyway they want. Tomorrow I may wake up to find that the Black Death has been raging non-stop since it first appeared.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 15, 2022 1:49 PM
Reply to  George Mc

If you can jab tens of millions for tetanus at public cost, why not for scarlet/yellow/purple fever?

Ort
Ort
Dec 15, 2022 7:25 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Tomorrow I may wake up to find that the Black Death has been raging non-stop since it first appeared.
___________________________________________

Of course it has! It’s simply that the predatory microorganisms have mutated to produce mass asymptomatic infection since the Famous Original Black Death pandemic in the 14th Century.

And don’t get me started on the even more pernicious asymptomatic variants!  😱  🐀 

NickM
NickM
Dec 16, 2022 4:19 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Bubonic Plague bacterium is still around, but no longer raging. “. With treatment [antibiotic] the risk of death is around 10%. … Globally between 2010 and 2015 there were 3,248 .” . — WikiPedia.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Dec 14, 2022 6:43 PM

Sorry off topic in my opinion there is a possibility The Great War is over. Perhaps it may go down as lasting a hundred years. Thinking it was a quote by Bismarck but can’t remember, certainly in Imperial German following on from 1870.
Today: Worlds First Artifical Womb Facility? Well yea so what, immediately reminds me of a quote from a film I enjoyed.
Something Wonderful is about to Happen’ (2001).

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Dec 14, 2022 6:29 PM

How is it that this article doesn’t talk about BRICS and its relationship to BRI?

WillianHill
WillianHill
Dec 14, 2022 6:15 PM

I have long suspected that Supernova were caused by fellow travelers, civilizations that finally triggered their own destruction through atomic war or experimental carelessness.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Dec 14, 2022 10:40 PM
Reply to  WillianHill

Except a Supernova is a star / sun, not a planet.

sandy
sandy
Dec 14, 2022 6:12 PM

The root problem here can be identified as a required “vanguard” by “communists” or “ruling elite” by 1% controlled republics and the rest of the ruling orders of the world. Except anarchists, libertarians and anti-authoritarians that believe in egalitarianism and self-rule through truly democratic consent mechanisms, of consent. This “best suited” bullshit you here from all ruling classes is the mechanism of controlling all decision making. Until the 99%, who are basically made to believe they must follow the ruling 1%, decide everyone together can and must decide and rule themselves, the world will face these tyrants. And the tyrants now see 21st C technology a tyrannical tool to ascend to godhood. Direct democracy is Humanity’s future.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Dec 14, 2022 5:39 PM

Given the level of scholarship involved in creating this article, its current low rating of 3.6 is appalling. Must be the bots and the knee-jerk pseudo leftists who think BRICS is the alternative to the “US evil empire” and the WEF, rather than an integral part of it.

WillianHill
WillianHill
Dec 14, 2022 6:11 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

BRICS are in opposition to the Evil US empire and they are certainly acting to cap US hubris. Modern history tells us that the US has been uniquely evil over the past 70 years, working excursively in its own interests, I don’t know how you can deny that. The fact you use the term “leftist” tells me you are part of the problem.

MolecCodicies
MolecCodicies
Dec 14, 2022 6:17 PM
Reply to  WillianHill

Read the article and discover you are wrong

WillianHill
WillianHill
Dec 14, 2022 6:34 PM
Reply to  MolecCodicies

I think the article is a lie….to hide real geopolitics and American empire. Read some history and you’ll understand you are wrong.

Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Dec 14, 2022 10:49 PM
Reply to  WillianHill

The point is there is a class of predators who don’t care which empire wins because they are transnational. Beyond that US v China is independent of eithers suppression and control of their own populations.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Dec 15, 2022 4:56 AM
Reply to  WillianHill

I actually have considered myself on the “far left” since 1973, and am incensed with how many people who identify as “left” have gone along with the “Pandemic” fraud, indeed have gone out of their way to push it, as well as how many “Leftists” like Matt Ehret and Pepe Escobar are positively shilling for the BRICS bloc which has been totally a part of Operation “Pandemic” because they are unable to see past global geopolitics. All they can see is that one faction of the global elite is fighting the other for dominance, and that all we humans can do is cheer for one oppressor or another. You seem to be of the same bent.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Dec 14, 2022 6:28 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

What evidence do you have that BRICS isn’t a threat to the US economy?

WillianHill
WillianHill
Dec 14, 2022 7:32 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

They are finding alternatives to trading using the dollar, & without the Dollar world reserve currency status the US becomes very very poor very quickly.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Dec 15, 2022 5:00 AM
Reply to  WillianHill

Just using a different currency to run the oppression apparatus.

NickM
NickM
Dec 16, 2022 4:29 PM
Reply to  WillianHill

Yes but I don’t think the U$A would become poor if the $ lost reserve currency status. It is a large country with great resources including a lot of good people. Like Imperial Rome turning into Italy and swapping wolf’s milk for cappucino.

Art Costa
Art Costa
Dec 14, 2022 8:59 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

The BRICS is integrated into Western financial system (World Bank, et al). China and Russia have signed onto the G20 agreements (including WHO) and have been aligned with operation COVID from day one (China serving as a model to be replicated throughout the West). Sovereignty has been washed away with these international corporate trade deals. The resources to build up China came from the West. Iain has provided historical references. None of this is a secret except to those who wish for the demise of the dollar – which is clearly part of the financial reset as the US Federal Reserve begins to align to CBDC away from USD. (None of this negates differences but those differences are subordinate to the major shift that’s been underway for many decades.)

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Dec 14, 2022 10:45 PM
Reply to  Art Costa

Last I checked, BRICS isn’t part of SWIFT, did I miss something?

As I understand it, China has its own payment and credit system linked to social scoring, and reason Russia, under Putin, immediately joined the CCP system when boycotted by SWIFT.

Granted World Bank and BIS can access either.

Art Costa
Art Costa
Dec 15, 2022 10:55 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

If you note that China has been captured by Western finance, what it has is controlled by globalist bank/investing/big tech.

At this stage it’s not as important whether China is directly tied into SWIFT or that initially the steps to technocracy are not one fell swoop. The planks are in place and ready for a reset to bring into the fold all nation-states (at least under UN).

Under this the USD will not be the reserve it’s been since Bretton Woods. As Mr. Davis describes thse nation-states are melting into transnational corporations, and partnerships between the public and private. All of this has been underway for decades. The house of rule is being rebuilt, plank by plank. I would see BRICS as a means to that end, not divergent. (Of course this could change. TPTB want us all to think the grand scheme is inevitable, and it is until it isn’t.)

You may want to read this from historian Emanuel Pastreich to flesh out how China got to where it is (wrote 3 parts but this one can give you an idea). He’s lived in China, Japan and Korea and is fluent in all 3 languages:

https://www.globalresearch.ca/third-opium-war/5801610

What Pastreich offers complements Davis. Pastreich states in no uncertain terms that China’s government is captured by US/Western big tech and NGOs. The model goes back to over a century ago with the British empire.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Dec 15, 2022 12:07 AM
Reply to  Art Costa

Great comment. Those who continually want to think there is someone out there who will “save us” from the evil of one country or another, choosing whichever one seems to work for them as “the enemy,” refuse to see just how centrally orchestrated all of this is. I admit I did not make it through this entire article in one sitting and will have to go back and finish it later, but it does not surprise me one bit anymore to find out that those truly in control – the ones who in essence print the money, are unified in their goals. All that infighting between nations is merely the same theater as Republicans and Democrats, Tories vs Labour, etc, etc, etc.

Multinational Corporations, Banks, whatever one wishes to call them, DO NOT have any loyalty at all to any one country or people. Their loyalty is to the money and control, period. They aren’t really even loyal to each other, so we do see a bit of infighting, but nothing that really changes their overall goal. They’ll use any device they can to hide that from people, and most people don’t even require them to use too much complexity to hide it either as most just simply will not believe it can all be that centrally organized. Just point the masses to the enemy du jour and you can hide the true intent for generations.

Rob
Rob
Dec 15, 2022 12:41 AM
Reply to  Lizzyh7

Yep and now it’s getting cool to question corporations again. The last time that happened, we got a whole lot of reforms

colin buchanan
colin buchanan
Dec 15, 2022 2:07 PM
Reply to  Art Costa

On the contrary, the BRICS is on the way to adopting a new currency system based on gold and commodities. That spells the end of the Western financial system! The psychological mechanism at play on this site is familiar to me from the far left: Western global power is evil but it is also indispensable- a kind of negative integration into Western imperialism. Try telling Stop the War or other Trots that the USA isn’t the world’s leading military and economic power and you’ll understand exactly what I mean!

Art Costa
Art Costa
Dec 16, 2022 3:01 PM
Reply to  colin buchanan

The US military and economic dominance has greatly waned – in fact may never have been much more than an indebted paper-tiger.

But there’s no replacement from another nation-state. These are being liquidated. As I’ve noted all of these so-called “great” powers are propped up legacies of by-gone era.

I see two developments. One, the “authorities” will continue to have believers (it’s truly a belief system and nothing more). Or, two, there will be a world unlike what we’ve had in recent times, not ruled by threatening despots.

BRICS is simply a means to the dystopian end. All of the institutions are replicas of Western imperialism which cannot be substantially be transformed let alone an improvement.

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Dec 15, 2022 4:59 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

A threat to the “US economy”? There is no “US economy.” There are no nations. “Arthur Jensen” (Ned Beatty) told that to the world in Network in 1876. There are only international corporate factions fighting for control. BRICS is one of the two major factions. The only disagreement it has with the US empire is that it wants to be the dominant force, vs the US. Otherwise, same Great Reset agenda. You need to read the article. Here is “Arthur Jensen.”

MolecCodicies
MolecCodicies
Dec 15, 2022 7:45 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

The supranational deep state doesn’t give 2 shits about the “US economy”. They are self destructing it on purpose. This is a part of the Great Reset aka Agenda 2030.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 15, 2022 1:58 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

Some comments suggest that the article has gone over their heads. To them, golobocap is not a thing; the old warring teams and political beliefs are what matters

obsean
obsean
Dec 14, 2022 5:33 PM

i’m sure lens guns will be a thing of the future, they will accurately be able to smother the lenses of surveillance cameras in a black goo , making them useless

Howard
Howard
Dec 14, 2022 5:15 PM

If you can read this article, and still believe humanity can avoid near term extinction – then you are indeed an optimist of the highest order.

We have not just spread ourselves as a species too thin; we have also spread everything else on this planet too thin.

“The world is my oyster!” the expression has it. Not so. “The world is my rubber band!” gives a better fit.

And we know how that story ends.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Dec 14, 2022 4:30 PM

Rebranding From “New” to “Multipolar” World Order

And all pushed by Infowars and Zero Hedge!

https://www.newswars.com/kissinger-warns-washington-accept-new-multipolar-global-system-or-face-a-pre-wwi-geopolitical-situation
By Zero Hedge Saturday, April 10, 2021

Kissinger Warns Washington: Accept New Multipolar Global System Or Face A Pre-WWI Geopolitical Situation
Unlikely that Washington is ready to unilaterally end its hard and soft power aggression as it falsely believes it can maintain a unipolar order against China, Russia
In the end, Washington will have to resort to a strategy resembling Kissinger’s suggestion of finding equilibrium, whilst also accepting the multipolar reality that has been established.

https://www.newsweek.com/endless-us-china-contest-catastrophic-conflict-henry-kissinger-1579010
Endless U.S.-China Contest Risks ‘Catastrophic’ Conflict, Henry Kissinger Warns
March 26, 2021

Veteran diplomat Henry Kissinger has warned that the U.S. and China must come to an understanding on international affairs or risk “catastrophic” conflict that will benefit neither nation. Speaking with former British Foreign Minister Jeremy Hunt in a Chatham House webinar on Thursday, Kissinger said that “endless” competition between the world’s two largest economies risks unforeseen escalation and subsequent conflict, a situation made more dangerous by artificial intelligence and futuristic weaponry.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 15, 2022 2:02 PM

OK, I’m ready to recommend K for the Nobel Peace Proze.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Dec 14, 2022 3:46 PM

Iain, could you kindly define “private property” in the most unequivocal fashion in the context of your writing? Thank you.

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Dec 15, 2022 11:06 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

private property are any goods, assets or services to which the individual has the legitimate right of self-ownership. To be a legitimate right that property must have been acquired through non aggressive means, such as a fair contract exchange or construction. Any “property” acquired by coercion or force cannot be considered legitimate private property as the person who claims the right of ownership has no legitimate claim.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Dec 15, 2022 2:01 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

Thank you, very kind, Iain.
The definition is important. It begins to establish what one may need to give up to birth what could be a better world.
Are these words your definition?
Thanks again.

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Dec 20, 2022 5:40 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Yes, my words but not my ideas. For property as a natural right, rather than a specific thing, probably start with John Locke and the philosophers of the Scottish Enlightenment I guess.

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 15, 2022 2:07 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

Then, all the wealth of royalty and nobles will have to go. Also, all wealth from war-mongering, intimidation, ursury, related coercion or any sort of cheating.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Dec 14, 2022 3:02 PM

The article rightly recognizes the influence of the Rockefellers, though it began much earlier.

It is part of the to and fro of influence on a bigger canvas: China’s influence on the West, like that of Russia and Mesopotamia, is largely overlooked. Think, for a more basic analogy, at what are called the Crusades which served as a foil for economic and banking sallies east-west and vice versa.

Culture being millennia long, overlays society, which overlays economic strategy. The opium wars were a cover for this greater struggle: the Kerrys, Cabots and Delanos burst their way into China; and the fortunes so gained shaped the west.

The bankers and Dutch-British East India Companies molded their host countries as much as those they sought to colonize.

Rockefeller first ventured in China in the 1880s/1890s; Mao attended the overseas Yale college; Anna Louise Strong advised the young Mao, her cousin Maurice Strong gave us the Rio climate conference of 1992 (Strong was a Rockefeller appointee, as later was Boris Johnson’s father Stanley) and thus, to telescope things, we arrive in the present, in which all the strings mentioned above are drawn tight.

Sorry for the brevity. The visa is long overdue and I have a couple of weeks to sort things out.

One quick thought – Christmas is a time for techocracy, when one can bury emotionality and remembrances in the efficiencies and neat march of life. I suspect that is techocracy’s appeal to the emotionally-curtailed brokers of wealth and power. One can share this woodenness if it shields the heart, but let the (dis)attachment be only tempoprary.

Ye overseas pub is back: the Moneycircus Discord (where we discuss homemade vermouth and such). It was deleted the evening after my second mildly critical article on China – I don’t take seriously the ruling that I was peddling injectible disinfo for if guilty, I’ve been so for years. Tencent Holding of China has a stake in Discord.

Basta, back to housekeeping.

Cloverleaf
Cloverleaf
Dec 14, 2022 2:14 PM

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Victor G.
Victor G.
Dec 14, 2022 6:10 PM
Reply to  Cloverleaf

Hard to totally understand what Tomer Gal is pointing towards with his writing. Instead of superficially calling on Buddhism to sell books, why doesn’t he delve into the Talmud?

Violet
Violet
Dec 15, 2022 12:38 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

I’ve read quite a few excerpts from the Talmud and I can tell you it’s not pretty reading.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Dec 16, 2022 6:19 PM
Reply to  Violet

I think that was Victor’s point.

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
Dec 14, 2022 2:12 PM

it is a career suicide to praise China, isn’t it?!

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Dec 14, 2022 9:05 PM
Reply to  GR-Watch

With Central & Asia China Banks seriously doubt it, what’s your rubber dolly made out of, MarsEpan.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Dec 15, 2022 12:22 AM
Reply to  GR-Watch

On the contrary, it’s becoming prevalent & trendy to do so. Did you miss the queasy Lockdown Left justifications for the Chinese “zero COVID” policy? Praising the “Chinese model” is an important facet of the fake alternative. It’s a way of easing us into to it being introduced in the West

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Dec 14, 2022 1:26 PM

What irony. The reason most people seek wealth is to surround themselves with beauty. While they admire craftsmanship, architectural wonders, breathtaking artwork and nutritious cuisine, they sabotage the very thing that would continue to beautify the world – human creativity and access to realizing more of these designs. They fear actual progress because it would allow for the evolution of the human spirit and that they cannot abide, for some reason. Why wouldn’t you want to invest in cultivating humanity’s greatest potential, rather than doing everything in your power to try to extinguish it, which is impossible, btw. Laws which are antithetical to natural order… the deliberate suppression of our creative birthright, a healthcare system which is antithetical to actual healing and an agricultural system which is antithetical to nutrition-dense food, cannot and should not be sustained.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Dec 15, 2022 9:40 AM
Reply to  Straight Talk

The creation of wealth results in the destruction of the beauty of nature.

Freecus
Freecus
Dec 14, 2022 12:49 PM

I thought this was an excellent article, the long-form is Iain’s style.
China has been a testbed for Western technology for decades, in return for an influential ‘seat’ at the table after the planned reset.
UN2030 is the blueprint and Technocracy is the system of delivery.

Art Costa
Art Costa
Dec 14, 2022 12:23 PM

Important perspective. Excellent research.

There are layers which cannot be fully appreciated in one essay, but Iain gives it a go between Part I and II.

MolecCodicies
MolecCodicies
Dec 14, 2022 11:30 AM

So many have been programmed to assume that articles such as this are pro-war propaganda for a conflict between NATO and China. What this article is actually showing that there is no impending war between the West and China.

Not in the way we think, at least. If there were to be a war, the purpose of the conflict would be to progress towards the UN Sustainable Development Goals, not a genuine conflict between independent factions. Just like the “war” in Ukraine. At the highest level, Russia, China, and the west are all on the same team. The real war is between them and us. The GPPP vs. the people of the world.

Rob
Rob
Dec 17, 2022 4:24 PM
Reply to  MolecCodicies

Yep and yet there’s still idiotic crap like this:

https://brownstone.org/articles/is-china-preparing-for-war/

Pakistanicream
Pakistanicream
Dec 14, 2022 10:58 AM

The article is too long in my humble opinion. I just went to the last 4 paragraphs and read the conclusions.

fertility
fertility
Dec 14, 2022 10:27 AM

I am very suspicious, when articles like the above appear at the EXACT same timing mainstream CIA media is all of a sudden discussing what CIA GCHQ alt media was talking about 10 minutes ago.
We’ve got big pharma bad, China evil. Immigrant crossing borders. Covid wasn’t as bad as they siad it was. Even dropping the Hitler back story doesn’t add up.!

As there very versed in how to switch it (switch your view), so the amnesia goes into dissociation, it really is amazing how forgetful you people are as you live in your western prisons being spied on monitored and now paying over 250/350£+ per month in convert new tax levy’s under the guise of things going up due to Ukraine Russia !!! whilst YOUR freezing in your houses scared of putting the heating on.

C.I.A GCHQ M*s*ad M15 funded alternative media (The hosts dont even lie about there previous jobs if anything is ever previous working for the intelligence services as that how numb and forgetful you become ) They shills the tune of the establishment by telling you how lucky you are – compared to other Counties and you fool for it every time, even during covid whilst you was locked up.

MolecCodicies
MolecCodicies
Dec 14, 2022 10:50 AM
Reply to  fertility

You are so triggered by this factual history of Chinese technocracy that you concluded “big pharma bad” is a CIA psyop? Incredible

fertility
fertility
Dec 14, 2022 8:19 PM
Reply to  MolecCodicies

factual history of Chinese technocracy LOL

it has been a one world government for decades boy!
Fantasy sovereign states dont exist.!!! COVID should of educated you on this.
This is what I mean by amnesia …

When tucker calson is discussing Big parma bad

what is the actually job of alt media.?? especially this new crap which tells you NOTHING that mainstream CIA media is discussing 10 minutes later.

Youve degressed as you read this above crap and believe Chinese technocracy is a first whilst your locked up being told you can no longer go to a certain country’s due to needing bs19 jabs or testing.

Put the heating on and melt the mind control. Theses article are that. 

Comparison website for the fake how lucky you are.

Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Fugazi Shoe-gazy
Dec 14, 2022 10:57 PM
Reply to  fertility

The point is that we’re gonna have the worst of both systems. No one here is saying we in the West aren’t throttling towards a techno dystopia at warpspeed – just that China is a bit ahead and the testing ground.

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Dec 15, 2022 11:14 AM
Reply to  fertility

“The Western investment in Chinese technocracy was made with a view to developing a global system, not one restricted to China. From the surveillance network and social credit to censorship and social control using CBDC, having seen what can be achieved in China, Western governments are busy trying to impose exactly the same model of technocracy upon their own people.

The Western political class cannot help but openly admire China’s technocracy. The only difference is that China’s system is publicly discussed—although rarely acknowledged as “technocracy” by name—while the rapidly emerging technocracy in the West is denied and concealed.”

…just sayin’

mgeo
mgeo
Dec 15, 2022 2:19 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

Even the latest protests in China are more training data for the AI, on what to push, when, how far, etc.

Ananda
Ananda
Dec 15, 2022 6:09 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

Why haven’t you pinned this comment…top of comment section.

Jack Bean
Jack Bean
Dec 18, 2022 5:51 AM
Reply to  Iain Davis

I fully agree with you Iain.

In South Africa, President Ramaphosa, a self declared socialist, also a member of BRICS has praised China’s system.

https://www.sabcnewsDOTcom/sabcnews/president-ramaphosa-praises-communist-party-of-china-for-its-role-in-fostering-global-peace/

President Ramaphosa, who spoke in his capacity as the President of the ruling African National Congress (ANC), told delegates: “We are inspired by the progress that China has made to eradicate absolute poverty in the largest developing economy on the planet.”

https://businesstechDOTcoDOTza/news/government/598102/ramaphosa-to-meet-with-russian-and-chinese-leaders-this-week-to-discuss-new-global-era/

““Through the reform of the multilateral system, including the United Nations, and by refocusing the attention and resources of the global community on the sustainable development agenda, the BRICS group can support a sustained and equitable global recovery,” he said.”

He was also of Course at COP Glascow and accepted a “Loan” to destroy the Coal fired power systems and implement RE Wind and Solar.

“It is with pride that we can say that Africa spoke with one voice at COP26 in Glasgow late last year.”

“The conclusion of the Paris Agreement Work Programme which will provide a basis for Parties to implement fully the Paris Agreement, in the context of a Just Transition and Sustainable Development, and leaving no one left behind.”

He is on both sides. They all are

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Dec 14, 2022 10:05 AM

I see almost zero difference here in this exposition of idealism and pragmatism in Chinese historical philosophy to that enunciated by Plato in his two treatises ‘The Republic’ and ‘The Laws’.

Plato recognised that utopia will never exist, despite having tried to describe it. The Laws was therefore his version of pragmatism, having to deal with reality on earth rather than some imaginary ‘perfection’ which might or not be perfect if all people actually had to live it out.

Bottom line is ‘what kinds of human beings become ‘leaders’ under datong and xiaokang? The answer is ‘very very different ones’. You don’t become a billionaire by being gracious, generous and self-sacrificing, far from it. You become a billionaire by being absolutely self-centred, completely ruthless and brutal and totally intolerant of any challenge to your authority.

If you think that miraculously after the age of 40 that those sociopath/psychopath entities are going to miraculously become zen-like leaders of humanity, you are off with the fairies. They become the biggest blocks to any form of zen, datong, christian piety etc etc. They spend the rest of their lives hoodwinking the majority by deliberately funding false ‘leadership isntitutions’ whose true aim is to retain the wealth and privileges of the billionaire oligarchs.

If you look at the world right now, you have the sociopaths Gates, Soros, Kissinger, Zuckerberg and others trying to make out that they can ‘save the world’. They have no intention of saving the world, they seek to impoverish it to enact total slave-like control over all of humanity. They have no interest in empowerment, solely being interested in megalomania. Gates now thinks he can control the human body, control the weather, control the whole solar system. He is certifiably insane for thinking that and it is far beyond time that proper leadership put him in his place and told him in no uncertain terms that he has zero right to behave like that, ever again.

Now if the Chinese admire Gates for his megalomania, they are truly a menace to the world.

Whether they do or noit requires the world not to worry about offending the Chinese, causing them to ‘lose face’. If they want to rule the world, we will all lose face and if they don’t care about that, then they are pure racists and can be called such.

We don’t want to be ruled over by racists now, do we??

Pakistanicream
Pakistanicream
Dec 14, 2022 11:01 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Great comment.

NickM
NickM
Dec 14, 2022 8:15 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

“I see almost zero difference here in this exposition of idealism and pragmatism in Chinese historical philosophy to that enunciated by Plato in his two treatises ‘The Republic’ and ‘The Laws’.”

Me too. This criticism of China is a direct descendant of Popper’s criticism of Plato in The Open Society and its Enemies. It is true that Plato did not value Freedom highly — but he had seen Democracy ruin Athens via Pericles “filling Athens with beautiful marble and ivory and gold when he ought to have been filling it with sober Justice and Moderation” .

“None so enslaved as those who imagine they are free” — Wolfgang von Goethe, 18th century German evolutionist.

I am glad to see the author commending the Chinese people’s kickback against daft Zero Covid policy — and the Chinese government’s giving way to public pressure.

Nature has a way of tunneling out of a closed box via the Uncertainty Principle. Like Goethe’s Homunculus escaping from his test tube and diving into the wide sea to find, Who knows? the dot upon the i.

The view of the world as a Technocrat version of Plato’s Republic neglects Plato’s greatest shortcoming: not Authoritarianism but ignorance of Chance versus Necessity in the evolutionary dialectic of natural processes.

“The best laid plans of mice and men / Gang oft agley” — Rabbi Burns.

Edwige
Edwige
Dec 14, 2022 9:58 AM

Excellent article, but a few qualifications or add-ons:

1) Why China? It was big and therefore potentially immensely powerful; it was strategically located in the Eurasian heartland; it was prostrate before the West after the turmoils of the mid to late Nineteenth Century. Elements of its political culture may have been used to sell the technocratic plan (this is why anthropology was invented by the Rockefellers) but it’s very much secondary as a cause. Is, for exaple, South Korea’s cultural heritage that different to China’s and yet it has become a prime model of turbo-capitalism. I suspect attaching importance to this bloke Kang would be like taking H.G. Wells and regarding his insane writings as somehow embodiments of a whole culture.
2) Henry Kissinger connects directly into Klaus Schwab who was Kissinger’s protoge.
3) I think the article unintentionally concedes too much to technocracy. It isn’t a good idea let down by the corruptability of its operatives, it’s a fundamentally disastrous idea. Technocracy is governance by the scientific method i.e. only what can be bean-counted counts. As such, it is the ultimate triumph of British empiricism, the real location of its philosophical heritage. The most precious things in life – the intangibles of spirit, morality and emotion – have no place in it.
4) The evidence of the technology transfers is well-made and points to China being long part of the globalist system (ditto Russia as chronciled by Sutton – btw Brzezinski cites Sutton in ‘Between Two Ages’ for all those who think Sutton some fringe loon). However I’m surprised the other strong evidence is passed over – China’s population policy. If we know one thing about the globalists it’s their obsession with overpopulation. China’s one-child policy has placed a timebomb under the country in accordance with globalist desires. Incidentally, it’s no coincidence that China’s ethnic minorities were exampt from the policy in accordance with another part of the globalist agenda – the ultimate fragmentation of nations through the erosion of majority ethnic status and coherence. Is anyone still swallowing all this as mere coincidence?

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 14, 2022 11:05 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Why Kissinger & co chose China over India etc? Because it was more autocratically ruled, no unions, free press, fully controlled judiciary etc. Nixon called Indira Gandhi “an old witch“; Great helmsman Mao was more attractive for WEF types, as Hitler was four decades before. Indira’s 1975-77 Emergency got cut off by the 1977 elections, no such risk for a Chinese Emperor. Good luck for the Indian population, bad luck for the Chinese.

The new woke iPhone generation in the West follow their (WEF!) shepherds in the new religion of materialism, so China good, India bad.
The old communist sympathizing Nokia generation in the West blindly praise the PRC, also as a hard counter pole to their hated Uncle $am. So India bad too in that camp.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Dec 15, 2022 9:01 AM
Reply to  Antonym

M Gandhi and Indira and Rajiv paid the ultimate price for their pro Palestinian stance.

Antonym
Antonym
Dec 15, 2022 10:53 AM

Ultimate nonsense

Jos
Jos
Dec 14, 2022 3:05 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Perhaps the huge number of empty cities in China, newly-built but crumbling away due to lack of maintenance and prolonged abandonment, is an indication of what the one child policy has done. I would question the world population figures and that includes the guesstimate for China. But the 8 billion we have supposedly just reached is a good story to scare people in the developed world to ensure fewer or no children being the preferred option for many. Messing with our immune system will do the rest.