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The glorious counter-revolution: how the British beat back the New Normal

A gonzo portrait, featuring Alan Miller, Laurence Fox, Dr Steve James, Molly Kingsley and Dick Delingpole, among others…

KB Goldtooth

UPDATED 10 Jan 2023 by the author for clarification

Entering winter 2021, the New Normal had been on a near two-year unbeaten hot streak. By January, however, things appeared to be changing. Omicron, initially announced with grim relish as a kind of biosecurity check mate, had unveiled itself as improbable liberator.

In the UK, the new strain was already ripping benignly through the population, travestying the notion the vaccines could thwart transmissibility, and with it that fear of COVID which for almost two years had largely made willing captives, if not outright self-imprisoners, of entire populations.
 
There was an absence of celebration among the regimes themselves of course: all remained reluctant to relinquish their grip. The vax everywhere stayed bluntly promoted and pushed. And in those places that had most deeply absorbed the spirit and letter of the New Normal – such as Germany, Australia, Canada, and ‘blue’ USA… – the mandates marched on regardless.

Yet some regimes would prove more susceptible, or even vulnerable, to the shifting circumstances. And at least one domino was already starting almost imperceptibly to wobble…
 
The morning of January 7th, Dr Steve James, Consultant Anesthetist at King’s Hospital, London, learned that Health Secretary Sajid Javid (the man overseeing both the UK’s vaccine rollout and the looming mandates targeting healthcare and care workers) would be visiting his workplace.

Reliving the day months later, James tells me he had crossed his fingers, imploring fate to send Javid his way. Then he heard the minister was indeed scheduled to stop at his ward.
 
James was excited. He was also prepared. He’d been sharpening his views on the mandates for months on friends and colleagues and had quite deeply researched the available data. “There was no study that showed that, in a health care setting, forcing vaccine mandates reduced patient negative outcomes.”
 
He didn’t know exactly what he would say to the health secretary but felt confident now that a situation would arise in which he’d get the chance to say something. What he imagined though was more a word in Javid’s ear as they passed in a corridor…
 
At the outset of the pandemic, to make himself useful to the overstretched hospital, James had switched from cardiology to intensive care. Had he been frightened of Covid, he likely wouldn’t have volunteered to work in ICU in the first place. “If I catch it, I’m probably going to be unwell for a time but I’m not going to die,” he reasoned. “I’m probably not going to end up in ICU. I’ll get better.” Natural immunity had long appeared to him as both the inevitable and preferable outcome.
 
As talk of mandates started, James began to ask around. It turned out quite a few colleagues were unjabbed. While some were willing to lose their jobs, others were considering alternative methods – not all of them legal. “When crazy rules come along, people think, I don’t want to be forced into that, but I still need to feed my family. I still need to be able to do my job….”
 
When Javid appeared on his unit, James was there with his clinical lead. Thronged by press, the three discussed the emergent character of Omicron and the patients on the ward. Then – his movements followed by half a dozen lenses – Javid broke off and approached a group of nurses.
 
“What do you think of the new rule that would require vaccination of all NHS staff?” he asked them.
 
Soon as he heard this question, our cardiologist’s heart started thumping. When none of the nurses seemed much inclined to answer, he opened his mouth.
 
“I’m not happy about that…” 
 

 
The confrontation was broadcast everywhere nationally and went viral worldwide.

For the “unvaccinated”, it was a clear small victory in the information war. James, in his scrubs and (obligatory) facemask, thin arms precisely crossed, couldn’t have less resembled the reckless, thick-as-shit ‘anti-vaxxer’ caricature concocted by and fulminated against day in and day out across the MSM.
 
James’ Instagram leapt 10k in 24 hours. The Spectator contacted him, inviting him to pen a byline. Meanwhile the hospital kept strongly advising him not to do any more interviews. “I said, do I have to take this advice?” They conceded that, strictly speaking, he didn’t. So he kept going. 
 
He was receiving huge amounts of correspondence, also, the overwhelming majority passionately supportive and often grateful. He hadn’t expected anything like this. Reflecting on it, though, it made sense. “Something needed to come out of the system here. Something had been bottled up.”
 
On January 22nd, he joined the British anti-mandate campaign group Together as they delivered 200k signatures of the Together Declaration to Downing Street…


 
Just a few days later, a truly global liberation event occurred. The Freedom Convoy rolled into Ottawa, where it would know the instant wild success of routing the political personification of the New Normal, Justin Trudeau, from his own seat of power.
 
It didn’t feel like a coincidence when, just two and a half weeks after the truckers entered Canada’s capital, PM Boris Johnson announced that the UK would begin to rescind its Covid restrictions, triggering the collapse of a number of other Covid regimes and weakening all of them.
 
Interesting that that first glimpse of white flag would be unfurled here. Throughout the pandemic a sizeable minority in the UK had been vociferous, organised and resolute – and the state correspondingly tentative, hesitant, ambivalent…

“Yes it has been better here than it has in some places,” agrees Alan Miller, Together co-founder and spokesperson, in a North London café this summer.

“If you look at Italy and Spain, both have had experiences of dictatorships, both have a different relationship to the state. Often it becomes far more violent far more quickly, too. We saw it in France with the gilet jaunes and then the anti-lockdown protests: tear gas and watercannons, the militarized responses. But let’s not be like those people that get beaten up and say, ‘well at least I didn’t get my leg cut off.’ No! This was not acceptable.”
 

I liked Miller a lot. He is intelligent and pragmatic, and clearly driven by the dictates of a large heart. He had also been a man of the left since his teens, and cut his teeth protesting both Iraq wars. Not that he sees the old political distinctions as the least relevant to the 2020s.
 
“I don’t think the terms right wing or left wing have any meaning. The left used to believe in people. They had a sense that people could transform things… the English, French, American, Russian revolutions all had this view.”

Miller had made a professional success in the nightlife industry, and campaigned for years against the encroachment of safteyism and bureaucracy. The prospect of the vax mandates in particular, an intangible yet entangling web cast across almost every threshold in the land, seemed to him the realization of trends he’d seen coming a long way off. 
 
“The idea of people being vectors of terrible things got really personified during lockdowns. And all of the trends, the anti-people trends, that have been around for the last two or three decades, got put on steroids: the idea that people are mad bad and out of control and need to be restricted. When in doubt regulate.”
 
Second perhaps only to France, UK Covid dissidents protested doggedly against the restrictions, in their tens and even hundreds of thousands. When Miller attended one of the first of London’s several large rallies, however, he was concerned. The speakers on the stage seemed ill-suited for pulling together the kind of coalition that could hope to be successful. There was, to his mind a little too much talk of 5G, for example. “The public needs to be involved in challenging the lockdowns,” he remembers thinking. “And I didn’t think these marginal individual groups would be able to bring them along.”
 
Together held its first meeting July 28th 2022 – over 100 campaigners attended, including religious leaders, union organizers and medical professionals. The organization would campaign outside schools and hospitals, universities, workplaces, factories, and on social media, as well as lobbying MPs and press, and providing spokespeople for media coverage on mandates and related issues.
 
“The reason we’ve been so successful with the anti-mandate thing is it’s front-line workers that have been involved. Not the business, not the layers of fucking bureaucracy, but healthcare professionals that said, I’ve done this for all these months, why are you now forcing us?’”
 
Before saying goodbye, I thanked him. My family spent 2021 under the dark shadow of the mandates, and Together’s efforts to stop them getting their foot in the door here had meant a lot, I told him. Tears filled his eyes, and he gave me a big bear hug, right in front of a confused barista.
 
The different parts of the UK offered different responses to Covid. Scotland for instance was much more like the other major European countries – by and large, it closed in upon itself and on itself. 

Scotland is ethnically homogenous, with tight-knit communities, yet the character of its nationalist leadership is hyper-liberal – Boris Johnson’s brief and facile flirtation with herd immunity was enough to instill an enduring, still more hysterical overreaction north of the border.
 
“It’s almost like a cult,” explains Scottish campaigner Christine Padgham. “I used to like the SNP, but I never thought they were beyond criticism. I didn’t understand before the pandemic how much people identify with their labels. It’s become so unbelievably tribal. Whatever England says we’re just going to do the opposite. It’s so childish and pathetic.”
 
Padgham’s own slide towards Covid skepticism started in the spring of 2020, when she became preoccupied by the experiences of an isolated, terminally-ill old friend in a care home. “I was very fond of him. I thought it was so cruel and horrible.” She started looking into how many people were dying of Covid, really. She saw the deaths in her area, Aberdeenshire, May 2020, numbered a mere 140.

Around the same time, the George Floyd delirium swept the world. “I was quite a woke person, so I was outraged.” She ordered in the required reading, starting out with How to Be an Anti-racist. “And I just thought, this is absolute fucking bullshit.” She squeals with laugher.

“It’s all about, it’s not enough to be just not be racist, you have to be anti-racist. I live in rural Scotland, there are very few black people here.” Very few black people – very little Covid. “I just thought, there’s somebody out there, up there, totally messing with us all the time. You were allowed to protest BLM but nothing else. BLM actually made me a COVID sceptic.”
 
The inauguration of mass testing left her incredulous. “So let me get this straight? You’re taking random people off the street and testing them, then if they test positive, you’re saying they have the disease and if they have no symptoms, they’re asymptomatic? They’re not asymptomatic: they don’t have it!”
 
She knew from her own experience – she had trained and worked briefly as a medical physicist – that this was unbelievably poor practice. “You want us to be scared of this virus, which you’re saying is very deadly. Then on the other hand you can be infected and not have any symptoms. It was undermining and overplaying the disease at the same time.”
 
Even early on, her misgivings on testing and BLM spread discomfort, irritation and occasionally anger among her friends. Things got a lot worse when, July 10 2020, Scottish PM Nicola Sturgeon announced the mask mandates.
 
“We have three cases a day,” Padgham recalls, “which I knew were probably false positives. Why would you bring in masks now? Was she just doing for this for the psychological impact it will have on people?”
 
She shared this thought on Facebook – along with Scotland’s infection curve. “This caused huge offence, ‘Why can’t you just wear a facemask, shut up…’” She started to defy the mandates locally, in shops and businesses, resulting in several screaming arguments and evictions, sometimes by old family friends.
 
Padgham was already regularly poring over data from around the world. Soon she started maintaining the daily stat update on Us For Them’s (a British organization set up to protect children from the impacts of the New Normal) Facebook page.
 
Day one of the winter lockdown, her youngest daughter suggested they go to the school every day and knock on the door, like Black Rod at Westminster.
 
The playground was too icy for them to reach the entrance. Padgham and her two daughters (faces obscured in hats and scarfs) stood at the bottom of the playground and made a short video. “It’s day one of lockdowns and what do you want to say girls?” asked Padgham. “Don’t blame us, educate us” trilled her daughters in unison.
 
She posted the video online. Somebody in the community reported her for intimidation. The following day, two policeman called at the house during dinner. Padgham showed them the video, of her and two young girls outside the empty school. “How is that intimidating anyone?” she asked. The policemen left, embarrassed.

No sooner had the vaccine started rolling out than people she knew were getting injured and killed. When a relative passed away, she suspected the jab. At the funeral, she was disquieted by uncharitable talk of the “unvaccinated”. Then Scotland started to roll out the mandates.
 
“It’s that horrible feeling when your friends are pushing you out, and then the society that you’ve been a part of and you’ve been proud to be a part of and you’ve felt you shared values with starts pushing you out, too.”
 
In the street, neigbours called her and her family dirty, old friends gossiped about them and crossed the road. On top of the social fissures, she knew there were now plenty of places – concerts, nightclubs, football matches – she wasn’t allowed to go.
 
“You’ve been trying to explain to people for so long and as clearly as you can what’s coming next, that people are about to be discriminated against. And people tell you that you’re talking rubbish. Then it happens. It’s like, sorry, where are all my phone calls saying ‘oh you were right. Maybe I should start paying attention?’”

December 2021, there was a Christmas party in the village hall: vaccinated only.
 
The social, medical, and intellectual isolation drove her to completely refashion her social networks. The family travelled down to London frequently for the demonstrations. Besides working for Us for Them, she founded Inform Scotland, helped found Haart, and launched the CoronaStories podcast. She was part of a Telegram group of around 40 people in Aberdeenshire who would also meet monthly.
 
“We’re just naturally became quite a cohesive community. There are a lot of tradespeople, electricians, plumbers, carpenters. And people into alternative health. I will not be stepping foot in a GP’s surgery again as long as I live.”


 
At some point during the early lockdowns, on my own obscure North London residential street, stickers started to appear on the side of bins, lampposts, walls and signs. THIS ENDS WHEN WE MAKE IT END. People in 1940s Germany Didn’t Realise They’d Been Brainwashed, Either. RESIST THE GREAT RESET.
 
Almost as soon as they went up, they were scraped away. Within days, they had returned. And so it went, week upon week, the information war spilling out onto brick and mortar.
 
The stickers carried a QR code. I scanned one and accessed a local Telegram channel for an organization called ‘the White Rose’, named in honor of the civilian resistance group in Nazi Germany. It was a good way of getting information on local events and groups – as well as your own stickers. Soon these were visible in nearly every town and city in the country – and would later spread as far as Canada and Australia.
 
Networks like this were springing up everywhere: there was an unhesitating, well-organised willingness to circumvent stupid and tyrannical legislation. You could get what you needed, more or less, whatever that happened to be.
 
My favourite Covid countercultural institution was Third Wednesdays – a recurring series of nationwide piss-ups. Started prior to Covid as informal get-togethers for British libertarians, they had been (very willingly) highjacked for the needs of the larger, more heterodox crowd of Covid dissidents. 
 
You just had to go along to an appointed pub, figure out which group was Third Wednesday’s (typically the largest, most convivial, least masked) and start shaking hands, drinking and dissecting whatever god-awful things were being propagandized that month. They are today held in over 40 villages, towns and cities across the UK on the third Wednesday of every month.
 
“The left and right have both been betrayed,” says founder Dick Delingpole (brother of rogue establishment journalist James). “What has become way more significant is whether you’re a libertarian or an authoritarian. Left and right: forget about it, it’s old news. And certainly, with Third Wednesday types I find myself breaking bread with people that are supposed to be my enemies. And old trade unionists come and are shocked they’re talking to an ex-public school boy, ex-tory.”
   
Few better embody British specifically upper-class contempt for New Normal officiousness than Laurence Fox, the actor turned political provocateur. My friend gave me his number and Fox invited me over for an interview on a sunny morning.
   
Fox’s second life started prior to the pandemic, with his appearance on the BBC political panel discussion show Question Time.
 
Delivered there by his healthy acting career, and corresponding celebrity, he would use the platform to hurl perhaps the most heinous possible insult at the British middle classes: he told them the country they lived in, the post-Brexit far right hellscape… wasn’t a particularly racist place. “We’re the loveliest little island in the world…” he smirked.
 
That was all it took. The scale of its impact was comparable to Kanye West’s “slavery was a choice” line. NOT RACIST? WE’RE THE MOST RACIST COUNTRY EVER! bewailed Guardian readers nationwide, including – unfortunately enough – the entire industry Fox made his living in. His flourishing acting career was a cold corpse within 24 hours. 
 
The first Fox heard about the pandemic, he says, he was called up by a journalist friend while in a car. They told him a huge virus was about to hit, and would probably kill half a million people.
 
“I thought, no it won’t,” he remembers. “I didn’t buy it, right away. For some reason I was immediately skeptical. I thought how can they come up with 500k before it’s even arrived?”
 
His mum, at this time, was already terminally ill. “She died just two days after they were partying,” he scowls, referring to the first of the many notorious Downing Street lockdown soirees.
 
As for the lockdowns themselves, he says he enjoyed them. “I had a great time. I ignored every single rule – and I did it publicly. This table,” he gestures to the surface between us, beneath his kitchen bay window. “Was full every single Sunday, and I partied.”
 
I glanced up. Countless windows, slathered in reflected sunshine, bared down narrowly over us, watchfully anonymous.
 
Sure enough, he received a lot of complaints. The police called round regularly. Fox would greet them with an invitation to get off of his property. At one point he left them on his threshold announcing he was off to fetch a hammer. “I really went for them, told them to fuck themselves. Someone was repeatedly complaining. I can’t remember how many visits we got. We were noisy, doors were open, we were having a laugh.”
 
Shortly before Covid started, Fox began a political party-cum-campaigning group, the Reclaim Party. In the middle of 2020, he ran for mayor largely on a platform of lockdown liberation. It was an unequivocal flop. Reviewing the experience now (with an affectionate shrug), it’s quite clear Fox thought it had been worth a crack.
 

Fox’s public persona via Covid was unique, I thought. With his appearance on Question Time, he had effectively and unwittingly preempted the social stigma invited (often for the first time) by all Covid dissidents.

“Pandemic and wokery are the same thing. Pre-pandemic the enemy was white people – straight white males were the worst possible thing on the face of this earth. In the pandemic the same philosophical rules apply: you create the enemy and then you berate and destroy that enemy. It was the medical manifestation of what was a racial manifestation.”
 
I left thinking that it was this dynamic, between contemporary political morality and its discontents, that would define the future or aftermath of this movement.

It’s something Us For Them founder Molly Kingsley – my last interviewee – also had on her mind. Kingsley was another normal middle-class mum of two who was quickly horrified by the impact of lockdowns on children and low-income families. 

“I think it’s beyond time that we had something new,” she says. “I think what this period has brought out. in part, is a failure of government. It’s also a failure of opposition. Our democracy has failed in these last few years – what happened should not have happened on any level. And actually it’s still going on. Look at children’s vaccines. Whatever you think of vaccination generally, it shouldn’t be happening. We shouldn’t be marketing this product to five years olds. It’s an ongoing failure.” 
  
I had wanted to write a positive history, or portrait, of Covid resistance in my home country. There was a lot to take pride in, and a genuine case that the collective, multifaceted effort had contributed, locally and internationally, to our relative liberation today. But the infrastructure of oppression is only on standby, and it would be stupid to suggest that the UK (not to mention the world) emerged from Covid anything less than traumatized – spiritually, economically, politically and physically. 
 
As for those of us that did resist – how could we be anything but (at best) half-nuts? Many (and in some cases all) of our previous relationships were a wreck, and whatever new comrades we had uncovered, those decades of lost relationships are irreplaceable. We’re increasingly prone to exorbitant magical thinking, paranoia, reaction: and why wouldn’t we be? Relentlessly absurdity, psy-ops and threats will do that to you.

I asked Molly her view of the UK’s dominant values, as revealed by Covid.
 
“We seem to place a lot of value on fear, on living in fear. On protecting ourselves. Let’s be honest, ‘keep everyone safe’ actually meant ‘keep ourselves safe’. The last two years I think have brought out the most selfish elements of human nature. To an extent values are top down driven by government. And when you look at this government, and this is all documented, it is devoid of ethics or integrity, drowning in corporate greed. When you look at the scandals, the PPE scandals… it absolutely stinks. But what are our values? I actually don’t know as a society. This is where I hope a resistance could turn into so much more than that. I think we’re all pretty bored of fighting against this darkness.”

With huge thanks to Anna Rayner, a perfect embodiment of the spirit of British resistance and the person who made this article possible. Thanks also to the excellent and talented Alex McCarron for further introductions. Additional thanks to everyone who resisted and CONTINUES to resist the New Normal however you do it.
You can follow KB Goldtooth on twitter here or listen his podcast here.

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Hamish
Hamish
Jan 15, 2023 2:43 AM

Protests definitely make a difference. They did in UK and Europe and they certainly did where I live in China. The Chinese government was heavily invested in Zero Covid but they were so rattled by the protests that they caved in and rolled back. They were gathering in momentum in the West too, which is why they rolled back. As others have said, it’s clearly a strategic retreat.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jan 14, 2023 11:58 AM
Si55
Si55
Jan 11, 2023 3:53 PM

The media only showed the Javid & James altercation because they were preparing to backtrack on the NHS mandate which was the plan all along. But they wanted it to look like they were listening to the NHS staff when really it was an empty threat.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jan 11, 2023 11:13 AM

The Hazards of Cell Towers and Smart Meters

They have put a weapon in everyone’s hand (bitchute.com)

Jesuitic Ziowahhabiz
Jesuitic Ziowahhabiz
Jan 11, 2023 2:03 AM

Not to burst anyone’s bubble, since this is patently obvious anyway, but the terrorist UK corporatocracy is as intact as it’s ever been and a furious comeback of plandemic totalitarianism is just a declaration of “medical emergency” away. As with the US, the UK military and intelligence apparatus are part and parcel of the operation and its originators, and the only actual, real and hard “immunity” during this entire shitshow for further corporatisation of life on earth has been that of those responsible for imposing the plandemic from any liability from having imposed its “protocols” along with the “vaccines”.

Counterrevolution with the same bloodsuckers at the throne and City of London and the same Tory vs Labour clowns playing “democracy” at Westminster? Just don’t be sending yourself down the same garden path as those who got the “safe and effective” concoctions to “save lives”.

keith
keith
Jan 10, 2023 8:09 PM

all is celebrity then is it??? what a completely illegitimate and misguided document whose only purpose is to highlight the EGO of far too many so called resistors to the tyranny – folk who haven’t a clue as to what is really going on across the planet – appalling

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 10, 2023 7:32 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2023/jan/10/first-day-sex-scene-teen-actors-playing-nude-jodie-foster-brooke-shields-taxi-driver-blue-lagoon‘

My first day was a sex scene’: the disturbing history of teen actors and nudity

From Jodie Foster in Taxi Driver to Brooke Shields in The Blue Lagoon, are films that used teen actors for sexual roles heading for a reckoning? As Paramount is sued over Romeo and Juliet, we look at the scenes cinema and TV might want to forget

We are poised on the brink of another news franchise: the complete overhaul of all media products since the 50s for an exorcism of all “unsavoury” material. Every exposure of flesh critiqued, every racial/religious/cultural slur, every “disrespectful” rock lyric etc. Enough to keep them going for a dozen lifetimes.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 10, 2023 7:22 PM

Telegraph: “Another pandemic is coming and the only answer Westminster has is more lockdowns?”

Thus attempting to whip up rage over this lockdown proposal as a way of distracting you whilst implanting the main meme: Another pandemic is coming!

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 10, 2023 3:51 PM

The glorious counter-revolution: how the British beat back the New Normal

No one beat back anything in Great Britain, nor any where else on planet Earth. The New Normal is civil acceptance of what is clearly an ongoing mass genocide. Here’s one aspect of the “plan”. >

Did National Security Imperatives Compromise COVID-19 Vaccine Safety?
JANUARY 5, 2023
Did National Security Imperatives Compromise COVID-19 Vaccine Safety? ⋆ Brownstone Institute

Nothing has been beaten back, period.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 10, 2023 3:35 PM

Groundhog Day became Groundhog Hour and is now Groundhog Minute at “The Conversation” (which ought to be renamed The Software Generated Internal Monologue):

“COVID: unvaccinated people may be seen as ‘free riders’ and face discrimination”

Yes it’s the idiotic self-negating trope that the vaccine isn’t enough to protect the vaccinated against the unvaccinated.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 10, 2023 3:40 PM
Reply to  George Mc

And here’s a splendid example of where your tax goes: the wondrous academic waffle-de-do of this:

“The authors carried out three conjoint studies surveying more than 15,000 people from 21 countries across all inhabited continents. They used surveys designed to measure prejudice expressed in three forms: affective (for example, negative emotions towards a group), cognitive (for example, negative stereotypes) and attitudinal (for example, support for exclusion and removal of rights).”

An excellent study in how to pad nothing out into an impressive sounding something-or-other.

Jim
Jim
Jan 10, 2023 12:34 PM

The issue I have with my local third Wednesday group is that the majority believe in conspiracy theories that bear little scrutiny to truth and thus put into the minds of the propagandised majority that they have a lack of discernment for seeking the truth. Eg belief in a Flat Earth and the fake moon landings. I just despair.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 10, 2023 5:04 PM
Reply to  Jim

I do take your point, there are certain discussions which, while interesting, are better avoided in certain contexts. It’s very easy to undermine ourselves by casting our net too wide and appearing kooky/flaky, and sometimes we just need to read the room.

Whereas I have many legitimate questions about, say, the moonlandings (which I put in an entirely separate bracket to flat earth btw), if I wanted to make a strong case that we should be skeptical of pandemic fear mongering I wouldn’t be tossing references to fake moon landings in there, unless I wanted to waste my time.

Sometimes one wonders whether some people are unable to edit like this or whether they might, god forbid, be deliberately sabotaging by association. A2

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 10, 2023 9:42 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I have serious doubts about the moon landings. As for the flat earth, I watched a video with John Hamer which intrigued me enough to provoke me into a “what if?” frame of mind. It is a vastly mind boggling proposition in a Philip K Dick sense but other than a bizarre thought experiment, I wouldn’t seriously suggest it.

In any case – and this might seem an odd remark – neither of these possibilities is that important. What I mean is that there are certain matters which are of extremely pressing concern. They demand your attention and they are of the utmost importance since they are life and death matters – covid being one such. And in the case of covid, the very presentation of that topic in the media seems such a giveaway to me i.e. media presentation by itself is a guide as to the reliability of the information.

To suggest the moon landings were faked would just provoke sneering that wouldn’t be worth it. The flat earth thing similarly – only mulitiplied by a thousand. And – here again comes the claim that might seem odd – It actually doesn’t matter. You could go through your entire life believing the earth was flat and it wouldn’t make any difference in any practical or moral sense. Of course, the difference would be profound if you publicly launched an attack on the covid paradigm and then followed with the flat earth proposition. Which is why the media are only too glad to conflate the two. In the end claims as to the truth also have a pragmatic dimension depending on current prejudices.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 10, 2023 10:12 PM
Reply to  George Mc

In the end claims as to the truth also have a pragmatic dimension depending on current prejudices.


Nicely stated and agreed 👍

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jan 11, 2023 4:36 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I’m shocked. I thought evertone here knew the moon landings were faked.
There isn’t the slightest posibility that NASA could have put men on the moon in 1969 or at any other time. Let alone bring them back alive and well.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 12, 2023 11:01 AM
Reply to  George Mc

I have serious doubts about the moon landings. As for the flat earth, I watched a video with John Hamer which intrigued me enough to provoke me into a “what if?” frame of mind. It is a vastly mind boggling proposition in a Philip K Dick sense but other than a bizarre thought experiment, I wouldn’t seriously suggest it.

So the cognitive dissonance kicked in and you shelved the idea because it made you feel uncomfortable. Riiiiggggghhhhht.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 12, 2023 11:02 AM
Reply to  Mucho

So the advice to everyone from GeorgeMc is – DON’T LOOK HERE LIKE I DID – IT NASTY AND ME NOT LIKEY.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 12, 2023 10:56 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Maybe people who raise flat Earth and the fake moon landings have made a decision to treat the gospel of known liars with the contempt it deserves, and couldn’t care less what people who have no knowledge of the subject think. Maybe the fact that people become so triggered when discussing flat Earth is an indication of some kind of mental imbalance/programming, and this needs to be out in the open if we are to proceed beyond the clownworld which we currently occupy.

People who imply flat Earth is crazy are the crazy ones, because for example, the vast majority ie about 99% of ball believers, have absolutely NO IDEA what the rationale behind flat Earth belief is. With zero actual knowledge of the subject, they just know it’s BS and they don’t need to ask any questions or do any research to find out what the basis of it is. In other words, they come at the subject from a position of total, complete ignorance, but they are quite happy to become borderline aggressive in their assertion that flat Earth is a load of bull. It’s very interesting to watch people quickly enter a hysterical mind-state when talking about it, because the cognitive dissonance for flat Earth is by far the strongest of all “conspiracy” subjects. The standard response to flat Earth, from people who always know absolutely nothing about the subject, is something to behold, and for me, is evidence of a deep programming which produces irrational behaviour responses. People who think they have all the answers are the crazy ones. If you can’t fathom, accept and understand that you are living in a carefully constructed hall of mirrors, being lied to on a grand scale, and you don’t understand that if they are prepared to spin you lies as elaborate as the moon landings, then they are prepared to run any old scam on you, you’re going to go through life being shafted by these monsters, to the point that most of them will even be injected with literal known poison because their belief in these liars is so strong. That is now proven. ,

My position on flat Earth is that honest proper well funded research needs to be done, involving properly monitored tests, to give us a confirmed truth, come what may. Ditto for virology. I’m not claiming to know absolutely, but there can only be one truth, so lets get on with establishing what that truth is. This could be done sans government. Part of the deal with flat Earth is that people are doing the field research independently and no-one can find any curve, only evidence of a flat Earth. We have super strength cameras these days which confirm this. You don’t need to do such a thing for the moon landings because the NASA photos and film and statements and photo stock already prove it’s a fake, but again, peoples’ hypnotism, peoples’ engineered fake set in stone belief system in proven liars prevents them from even analysing NASA’s own images. We need to get to a stage where people can just be cool about the need for research into flat Earth, because we know we’re being lied to , and this is an area where we need clarity, not treat it with such aggressive, emotionally driven garbage trained nonsense. We establish the truth, we advance accordingly from there. Hardly a crazy position to take, but watch the ignorant naysayers pile in with their hysterical reactions.

Here is a very good flat Earth video, explaining very well the main technical reasons/proofs behind flat Earth. Watch it without prejudice. Flat Earth is a subject very much linked to God too, because if it is flat, it’s much more suggestive of a God created world. This is one motivation for the scum to demonise flat Earth, because they want Godless soulless subjects with no sense of heart or conscience. Truly God powered individuals are much more of a threat to their power because they have a higher cause in life than their own selfish interests, and this creates a dynamic which is counter to their agenda.

Before anyone ridicules my belief that flat Earth should be proven either way by real science and tests, please make sure you have understood the points in this video first because it gets boring hearing the same tired ignorant responses to this very important subject.

The Top 20 Proofs Earth is Not a Spinning Globe (bitchute.com)

Mr Y
Mr Y
Jan 11, 2023 10:04 AM
Reply to  Jim

Just like the comment fields around here then …

Grafter
Grafter
Jan 10, 2023 10:22 AM

“140 deaths from Covid in Aberdeenshire”. Really ? Where is the proof that those deaths were because of Covid specifically ? Were autopsies carried out on these people to verify that claim ? Or was a PCR ‘test’ used to endorse the scam ?

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 10, 2023 9:54 AM

Nobody seems to have mentioned it yet (probably with good justification) but it seems that Brazil is re-enacting the “Terrifying January 6 Fascistic Coup” scenario with Bolsonaro’s supporters storm trooping the government. (Link with Jan 6 explicitly drawn of course.)

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 10, 2023 9:39 AM

The Kraken Wakes:

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/01/09/igmi-j09.html

“XBB.1.5 was given the moniker “Kraken”—the name for the Norwegian mythological sea monster—by Dr. Ryan Gregory, a professor of biology from Canada, to distinguish the ever-growing complex designations of ….” blabbity schmabbity.

But that is not the medico-fantasy-franchise’s only venture into world mythology:

“XBB (Gryphon) and XBB.1 (Hippogryph), recent ancestors of XBB.1.5, were first identified in mid-August in India. They quickly spread across different regions of Asia, becoming predominant in India and causing a massive wave of ….” yackety schmackety.

Just like Harry Potter!

Brewer
Brewer
Jan 9, 2023 11:07 PM

What, I wonder, did Padgham regularly pour over data from around the world. Sounds messy?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 10, 2023 3:25 AM
Reply to  Brewer

Ah well spotted. Thanks. A2

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 10, 2023 2:53 PM
Reply to  Brewer

I’ve seen that before.
For the uninitiated, it’s ‘pore over’.
Pour is what we do with tea.
No thanks necessary.

Ort
Ort
Jan 10, 2023 10:08 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Why this stuck in my pre-teen head I can’t say, but I once saw a comedy skit on “The Ed Sullivan Show” in which the late comedian Jack E. Leonard played a family dog– dog costume and all.

At one point, doggie Leonard makes off with the morning’s newspaper; its owner says, “Give me that newspaper!”

Without missing a beat, Leonard barks, “I’ll let you have it back when I’m finished poring over it!”

The double-entendre doesn’t work as well in written form, but I still laugh when I recall it.  😆  🐕  🗞 

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jan 9, 2023 9:03 PM

I’m not sure what Dick Delingpole has done to deserve being on this list. I’ve nothing against the man, but his sole claim to fame is being the brother of James.

KB
KB
Jan 9, 2023 10:11 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

Did you read the piece? He invented Third Wednesdays – something that’s meant a lot to a lot of people – an intensely simple yet clever idea. You should come to one 🙂

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 9, 2023 7:38 PM

Just what we need during a “cost of living crisis” whilst the health service is plummeting:

The first ever orbital space launch from British soil is getting ready to blast off.

Monday’s mission will see a repurposed 747 jumbo jet release a rocket over the Atlantic to take nine satellites high above the Earth.

Newquay Airport in Cornwall is the starting point for the operation, on Monday evening after 2100 GMT.

If it succeeds, it will be a major milestone for UK space, marking the birth of a home-grown launch industry.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-64190848

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 9, 2023 8:15 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Let them launch away and eventually go to their new Utopioid Planet for good.
It’s not for us. It’s for robots.

Damien Rochford
Damien Rochford
Jan 10, 2023 10:30 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The earth is a flat motionless plain. Gravity does not exist. Neither do satellites.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 10, 2023 11:17 AM

YOU’RE a flat motionless plain XD

Damien Rochford
Damien Rochford
Jan 10, 2023 1:43 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Steady on!

bunkin
bunkin
Jan 10, 2023 7:09 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I think they have failed on that launch from what they choked out on the news this afternoon

Joshua
Joshua
Jan 9, 2023 6:10 PM

There is no virus. There is no contagion. There is no immune system. There are no antibodies. Virology is fraud.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 9, 2023 6:36 PM
Reply to  Joshua

Are you aware of a valid counter-hypothesis for observable contagion. And please try not to say merely ‘toxins’. Huxley and Darwin went a bit further than simply ‘evolution’. I’m all up for challenging orthodoxy, but we need to get a bit more detailed. Thanks, A2

Kurt
Kurt
Jan 9, 2023 6:51 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Contagion is NOT observable. What is observable is that people get sick at the same time with the same symptoms. Contagion is a construct, only one of numerous possibilities. A toxic element is one possibility – take, for instance, radiation sickness. The other possibility is temperature, as detailed in the following analyses that all but prove that the contagion concept is delusional phantasmagoria.

https://nouveau-monde.ca/un-mythe-contagieux/

https://nouveau-monde.ca/le-mythe-de-la-contamination-epidemique/

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 9, 2023 8:24 PM
Reply to  Kurt

I’m not a French-speaker I’m afraid.

Perhaps that’s also why you take the word ‘contagion’ quite so literally. Contagion is a perfectly good word used in many contexts, including medically. We also refer to contagious laughter, for example.

If it serves you better I will put ‘contagion’ in quotes.

Observable ‘contagion’ really does demand an in-depth hypotheses, rather than a cursory summary like ‘radiation’, ‘toxins’ or ‘temperature’.

I’m open to this debate btw. I’m not convinced either way. However, hypothesis-driven science seems to demand something a bit more detailed than that which I’ve seen so far. Hence my reference to Darwin/Huxley.

Is there an English link which might benefit our readers? A2

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jan 9, 2023 9:05 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I can give you a link to a few textbooks on virology.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 9, 2023 9:33 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

I’m after a viable alternative hypothesis to ‘contagion’. It seems the viral debate is useful for pointing out the holes in virology, but it’s not so useful at presenting an alternative. Nor does it demonstrably rule out that pathogenic microbes pose a threat to our health. Nonetheless it appears to be mostly occupied with proving this negative, or seeking to seemingly shift the burden of proof onto others while dodging the obvious requirement to offer a viable alternative.

If the no-virus view were seeking to simply ask questions without taking a firm stand that would be one thing. Putting orthodox science to the test in an impartial way is certainly valid. However, going one step further and occupying a soap box to decry virology without arguing for an alternative beyond generic things like ‘toxins’ etc. doesn’t feel impartial or scientific,

I mean, absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence. Yes, virology could lack direct evidence of the exact particles in question, but so too do physicists dealing with light particles/waves or, better still, quantum particles. These scientists are left to postulate and infer based on observed phenomena. Perhaps these disciplines are labouring under massive delusions, as those who question virus theory would have us believe of virology. Or perhaps it’s more nuanced than that and there are only partial errors at play.

There could well be other pathogenic microbes at play, other than viruses, we’re just looking in the wrong places. It might be some or all inferences made by virology are completely valid and there are indeed invisible infectious particles, just not ‘viruses’.

To state ‘there are no viruses therefore some or all pathogenic contagion is wrong in the Western World, it’s just radiation sickness’ seems like a post hoc fallacy.

Saying this, all I’m really curious about is a paper arguing an alt. hypothesis for observable contagion to counter virology. Other than that I’m quite on the fence, A2

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jan 10, 2023 1:11 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Thank you. Some of the terrain-theory types are starting to get just a little too pushy and divisive these days. We don’t need to be forced into such an extreme position at this point in time.

SuperbuggG
SuperbuggG
Jan 11, 2023 7:31 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

‘…forced’ ‘extreme’, snigger! A2 and others need to get edumacated on germ-theory skepticism! As Andrew Kaufman is prone to remind the 150 year-old ‘germ-THEORY’ (think Soap Opera) being challenged – terrain is no new theory itself!

Tom
Tom
Jan 11, 2023 10:18 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

There is no repeatable scientific process to demonstrate either virus existence or transmission. The onus is not on sceptics to come up with an alternative theory, it is the responsibility of the virus/contagion proponents to unequivocally prove their theory. They cannot.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 11, 2023 11:47 AM
Reply to  Tom

Actually I think hypothesis-driven science requires a counter hypothesis. By all means let’s challenge virology to deliver more evidence while maintaining an open mind ourselves, but I have a problem with the entrenched views of those who rule out all pathogenic microbes. We must recognise that an absence of evidence isn’t in itself evidence of absence. I’ve already made that point on this thread, but it bears repeating I think.

Darwin/Huxley didn’t say “You guys prove god exists and we’ll be waiting over here saying authoritative but ultimately non-committal and vague things about ‘evolution’.”

In fact they submitted a counter-hypothesis detailing the mechanics of evolution, including detailed case studies, and the argument was conducted.

Jack Horner and Bob Backer are more recent examples.

If we’re being 100% worldly here shouldn’t we recognise it actually requires a collosal amount of energy to unseat a prevailing ideology, and this requires labouring harder and being held to higher standards than the established orthodoxy?

Every challenge to a scientific paradigm has painfully broken through this extremely human and extremely flawed reality, repeated again and again throughout history.

So while we can attempt to shift the onus entirely onto virology while announcing ‘we’ll be over here’, I think this isn’t going to achieve much, pragmatically speaking. I think it’s a) unscientific in terms of hypothesis-driven science and b) serves merely as a refuge, not a challenge, since virologists and most ordinary people aren’t bothered and aren’t listening.

I argue the time is here for hypotheses-driven science to be satisfied. Those who criticise virology should cease defining their POV simply by railing contemptuously against the current consensus, but instead practice what they preach and use high-quality science to forward a new hypothesis.

And if that can be reproduced by a repeatable scientific process then perhaps they’ll be far along the road to establishing a new scientific consensus.

Won’t that be nice 😊

A2

nmism
nmism
Jan 11, 2023 10:00 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Along with the virus not existing goes the disease. The disease, as named, doesn’t exist either. There are no general nor particularly definite states of polio, measles, chicken pox, small pox, malaria, cholera, yellow fever, hookworm, tuberculosis, typhus, rabies, ebola, zika, tetanus, lyme, aids, swine flu, avian flu, spanish flu, russian flu, asian flu, hong kong flu, covid, leukemia, etc etc. None of these concepts have isolate physical existence in the world. These are all theoretical entities, and vague ones at that. People get sick, yes, that is certain. The precise reason for any given case is unique. Care for each case can be about the same but it needs to include attachment and intuition. The medical industrial flower has grown from mendacious soil. The intent from the beginning has been population control and control of the population. Germs, viruses, and their subsequent diseases are not anything to be feared or avoided, but public health experts, pathologists, and epidemiologists are.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 11, 2023 10:34 PM
Reply to  nmism

yeah, interesting. But your vague assertions are hardly replacing the alleged ‘pseudo science’ of virology with scrupulous hard science, are they?

Ok, viruses are ‘theoretical entities’, sure, but still ‘people can get sick, yes, that is certain’.

I just think that if we’re going to reject virology for being unscientific, let’s be scrupulously scientific ourselves, yes? Let’s demonstrate our own assertions in a scientific and repeatable way. Yeah?

Or let’s at least admit that the scientific method has a limited role to play.

However if we do this we’re undermining our argument against virology from from the get go, aren’t we?

A2

nmism
nmism
Jan 11, 2023 11:39 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I didn’t say pseudo science. I am opposed to science. I think it has resulted in a net loss for humanity. I am not looking to fight icky with icky. I have been semi methodically routing through the evidence they put out for us to ponder, and it all stinks.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 12, 2023 2:08 AM
Reply to  nmism

hmmm I for one feel very iffy about discrediting virology for being unscientific, then rejecting the scientific method for our own musings. There’s no ‘ifs’ about it, in fact, it’s a double standard. We have to reason things out consistently, or it’s no different to climate science grafting tree ring data onto ice core samples in the infamous ‘hockey stick’ graph.

Consistency is part and parcel of basic deductive reasoning. It’s not optional. A2

nmism
nmism
Jan 12, 2023 5:59 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I didn’t say virology is unscientific. Its not “pseudo science” its “typical science”. The scientific method is not the end all be all for arriving at any given knowledge. There are other ways to collate. Anyway, show me some science with consistent reasoning. Yes we can go ahead and try reason consistently but that will always be contextual, there is no absolute reasoning. Its agreements and communication – and most of mandated science isn’t doing that.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 12, 2023 6:26 PM
Reply to  nmism

But virology is very far from ‘typical science’, so says many people who criticise it. If you’re trying to lump virology together with ‘typical science’ and suggesting we reject ALL science, I feel as if most people criticising virus theory would disagree with you. And perhaps they’d accuse you of throwing the baby out with the bath water. Or, since the overall critique of virology depends on a scientific basis (or else on what basis is it being criticised?), perhaps the baby is throwing itself out with its own bath water…?

I don’t know the answer to that but I disagree with you. XD
A2

johnamaz3
johnamaz3
Jan 14, 2023 3:45 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

virology posits that contagious “viruses” cause disease, with no evidence whatsoever to back it up (see stefan lanka & company).
however, the amazing book “the invisible rainbow” by arthur firstenberg explains lucidly the true cause of influenza throughout history.
other illnesses were thought to be contagious, such as scurvy, beriberi, & pellagra, until it was realized that they were all related to nutrition.
we were told that polio was contagious, but of course the main cause of that condition was the spraying of DDT onto youngsters playing in the streets.
as for measles & the other childhood diseases, they seem to play a role in the development of the child, & may actually be beneficial for the vast majority of those who survive them.
the major diseases, cancer & heart disease, not to mention iatrogenesis, are not considered contagious, so i’m not sure how worthwhile it is to focus on the “why” of perceived contagion.

Tom
Tom
Jan 12, 2023 10:05 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

If a ‘scientist’ tells you that he/she has created a test to prove that unicorns exist, would the onus be on you to prove that do not?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 12, 2023 11:00 AM
Reply to  Tom

I think that’s just too simplistic. Virology wasn’t concocted overnight, it was built over many decades, one generation of scientists developing (or fudging) the ‘breakthroughs’ of the last. It is built on observations (or inferences or inventions as the case may be) spanning hundreds of years. It’s not a unicorn that’s simply popped up overnight. The playing field is far, far more complicated than that.

When scientists operating in good faith failed to find viral isolates, compromises and fudging crept in. Like many/most human institutions, it became gradually more corrupted by egos and dogmas. Yet it is still filled with many good (but fiercely institutionalised) people operating in good faith, practicing what they were taught.

All involved have a natural human inclination to defend their vested interest. Virology isn’t going anywhere without a fight.

Galileo didn’t simply say ‘the onus is on the church to prove God exists’ XD. Galileo used evidence to confront the church. He wrote Dialogue of the Two Chief World Systems in support of Copernican heliocentrism and was subsequently found guilty of heresy and spent the remainder of his days under house arrest.

That’s commitment. That’s confronting a paradigm. If it’s good enough for Galileo, I think it’s good enough for proponents of no-virus theory or terrain theory.

(No-virus theory isn’t up against the movable goalposts of 17th Century Catholicism either so really they’ve got it easy. XD Yes, science is clearly a religion but it has to at least masquerade as being objective, which limits it a lot I think)

Lanka has done some great work pointing out the flaws in virus detection and the obvious pitfalls of lack of control studies etc. And while we can potentially conclude from this that virus theory has big problems and evidence for contagious viruses is weakened, jumping straight from this to terrain theory, as if there are only two possibilities here (viruses vs terrain), or as if ‘viruses’ are now utterly debunked, is actually very unscientific. Actually there are an infinite number of alternative possibilities. Principles of virus theory could be partially or mostly right. ‘Contagion’ could be controlled by a another factor which no one has considered yet. Etc.

Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence, so in order for our criticism of virology’s bad practices to hold any water at all we have to be methodical and scientific.

If we don’t do this then all people csn rightly conclude is that NEITHER side is being scientific, therefore pick your unscientific poison. XD

If we wish to declare virology dead there needs to be a working alternative hypothesis that describes observable contagion in detail, which can be tested with repeatable scientific experiments. Then the serious debate can begin.

That’s how hypothesis-driven science works, I believe, and that’s how a scientific consensus gets shifted – over time and with much blood, sweat and toil.

A2

nmism
nmism
Jan 12, 2023 6:29 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

First off looking carefully at the history of science (biological, physical, social, even philosophical) in UK, and US from 1800 on (elsewhere as well, in diverging ways and timelines ) you will see that its auspices were overwhelmingly hijacked by political entities (Philanthropists and state affiliated bad actors). This has undermined the free interchange of ideas from the get go. There have been equally “scientific” counters to germ theory all along but they have been slandered, ignored, and unfairly maligned. This was not scientific behavior then or now. So no, the whole world of science at this point is corrupt, perhaps we could somehow get back to your ideal world but we are far far from it now. My inclination at this point is to simply reject it wholesale. After its utter demise we can return the common sense world of good faith.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 13, 2023 12:08 AM
Reply to  nmism

After its utter demise we can return the common sense world of good faith.

Well, maybe there’s a point there.

Or maybe that sort of nihilism is just making us easier to handle?

nmism
nmism
Jan 13, 2023 1:35 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

That is an excellent point (the easier to handle bit)

Kurt
Kurt
Jan 14, 2023 7:25 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

That is a judicious stance and correct reasoning. I agree completely. There is not enough knowledge and no debate to make the determination as to how the stuff works.

Personally, I’ve stopped giving a flying monkey because it’s highly unlikely that things will change anytime soon. You could be arguing about this till the cows come home and never be any wiser.

What matters is that this endless debate about virus is being used as a smokescreen – actually one of numerous smokescreens – for global transformation.

There is the possibility that the whole anti-virus crowd are shills whose purpose is to sow the seed of uncertainty among people, to create a false dilemma, to instigate a debate about a complete non-issue.

Penelope
Penelope
Jan 9, 2023 9:46 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Sam, perhaps it would be helpful to note that viral infection by contagion differs from illness by toxin in that a single viral exposure resulting in illness confers lifelong immunity. Toxic exposure in sufficient dose generally produces illness repeatedly.

That is, generally antibodies are formed in defense of viral infection, but not toxic ones.

There’re some bacteria and viruses which cause illness thru their production of biotoxins, but no need to muddy the waters while the main issue is in contention.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jan 9, 2023 9:55 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Sam, in the past I’ve noticed misinterpreted ie: Imperial German to American requiring further translation into English. I still don’t understand why people naturally assume Americans speak English. Can I graciously suggest a translated version link.
Thank you

Brian
Brian
Jan 10, 2023 7:36 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Any decent browser has a drop-down menu on the top ride or the sometimes the bottom right where you have options such as print to PDF, Find in page,translate etc Simply click on translate

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 10, 2023 11:14 AM
Reply to  Brian

I’m familiar with auto-translators of course. Whereas they serve well at giving a gist I’d prefer to form a meaningful opinion based on a more reliable translation. I believe I demonstrated in my reply that language barriers can lead to needless misunderstandings. Thanks for your comment, A2

Kurt
Kurt
Jan 14, 2023 7:15 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

The analyses under the above links show nearly perfect correlation between disease/death and temperature exceeding a certain threshold (both hot and cold). These analyses could have only been performed recently thanks to the online availability of large amounts of data.

Mathematically speaking, no virus, i.e. transmission, even enters into any of this. This complements nicely the way diseases transmission by virus has been refuted by the likes of Lanka, Kaufman, etc.

I too have a problem with the absence of a viable alternative hypothesis, but cold temperature and the resulting low humidity that affects the most vulnerable part of the body, the respiratory tract, is good enough. There are other contributory/exacerbating factors, such as the use of heat producing devices during cold periods and the resulting pollution, and so on.

As to contagion, the virus theory clearly being a crock of shit, can people catch disease psychosomatically, through being conditioned that the common cold (here goes the “cold” again) is catching, thus believing it and consequently getting sick? Who knows. Is there some communication at the genetic level? Who knows. Nothing is off the table. The bottom line is that we don’t really know. And even more bottom line is that it doesn’t really matter – respiratory diseases have always existed, and they highly likely will do so. We know how to stay healthy – live a balanced life.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jan 14, 2023 8:10 PM
Reply to  Kurt

Interesting. I largely agree although I think it opens up a can of worms when we talk about psychosomatic illness, one that I don’t see anyone addressing. A2

Kurt
Kurt
Jan 15, 2023 6:14 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

There is the German New Medicine, a concept that attributes ALL diseases to psychosomatic causes. And it’s scientific – they’ve measured brain waves and attributed specific diseases to specific states of mind.

Psychosomatic medicine is even a legit part of the current sickness establishment, even though not a prominent one.

Today’s science put all the eggs in the materialist basket, which is kinda understandable because they need tangible stuff to work with, but there obviously are things beyond the material or perhaps beyond the material people are capable of perceiving, whether because some things have not been discovered or because they’ll forever remain beyond human perception.

Damien Rochford
Damien Rochford
Jan 10, 2023 10:35 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2
wardropper
wardropper
Jan 9, 2023 6:58 PM
Reply to  Joshua

So people keep saying . . .

“The lady doth protest too much, methinks”

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jan 9, 2023 9:04 PM
Reply to  Joshua

If you say it often enough it might become true.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jan 9, 2023 5:48 PM

Did we beat it back?
I am an exile in Georgia: you will have to tell me. The article meanders alarmingly.

What I know of psychology suggests that the majority did not beat back. And self-congratulation of a small minority is no guarantee of survival. It is, rather, the mirror image of the cult.

KB
KB
Jan 9, 2023 10:16 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

I dunno man it’s not about congratulating a small number – but providing some way of appreciating the whole with a sample. You left, I stayed, and found things to celebrate among all the awfulness. Nothing and no-one is perfect, and I don’t think the piece implies otherwise. I just wanted to send a good vibe into the world following a dark time. Bests!

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jan 9, 2023 5:47 PM

Did we beat it back?
I am an exile in Georgia: you will have to tell me. The article meanders alarmingly
What I know of psychology suggests that the majority did not beat back. And self-congratulation of a small minority is no guarantee of survival. It is, rather, the mirror image of the cult.

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jan 9, 2023 5:40 PM

Did we beat it back?

I am an exile in Georgia: you will have to tell me. The article meanders alarmingly

What I know of psychology suggests that the majority did not beat back. And the
self-congratulation of a small minority is no guarantee of survival. It is, rather, the mirror image of a cult.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jan 10, 2023 1:04 AM
Reply to  Moneycircus

A triple jabbed..run!

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Jan 9, 2023 5:18 PM

The resistance is real and growing. There are many more of us out here who have experienced the ostracism, demonization and stigma of being non-conformists and free thinker because we refused to go for the okey-doke and get the shots; who our friends and family view as crazy and the government views as a threat. But now the worm is turning despite the continued propaganda and programming. Now folks know at least one younger person and several peers who have “died suddenly”. We all know die hard vaccine compliers who got sick despite getting the shots and boosters. More and more people are realizing we’ve been had, duped and as Malcolm X said “bamboozled”. Now many are not taking the boosters. This is a victory of sorts. Now reports are coming out about the lack of proper testing and how the government ignored Big Pharma’s test that showed the shots were neither safe nor effective! The Twitter Files are showing how Big Tech conspired to suppress and censor dissent.
Will this be enough to turn the tide?! Will the rising all cause mortality deaths more adverse events trigger a backlash and uprising? Are we too easily distracted to mount a serious counter movement? The plutocrats know how to keep us afraid and disoriented until we figure out their tricks like we did with the bogus post 9-11 color coded terror alerts here in the US. What will 2023 bring in terms of truth and how will the aroused react?

mgeo
mgeo
Jan 10, 2023 7:51 AM

How can the be “proper testing” when such a test – and even the disease – does not exist?

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jan 9, 2023 5:07 PM

I think my post got accidentally deleted.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jan 9, 2023 6:54 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

dude, like a scene out of predator ; )

just duplicated, still popped up ; )

Moneycircus
Moneycircus
Jan 9, 2023 5:00 PM

Georgina Henry, the initiator of Comment Is Free, was my best friend from King’s College London. I wonder to this day whether her unnatural death from “eyeball cancer” was natural.

Ask her partner, Ronan.

Off-Guardian needs to move beyond the Overton Window of The Guardian. What, otherwise, is the point?

Georgina wasn’t the greatest writer, but she was a great communicator. She had a vision that trumped The Guardian and the butt-clenched military didn’t like it, albeit that she was a brigadier’s daughter.

The Off-Guardian project can only succeed by another lurch towards the broadening of speech, not the disecting of what’s already within the “window.”

Penelope
Penelope
Jan 9, 2023 9:56 PM
Reply to  Moneycircus

Money-Circus, Off-G needs to move towards SOLUTIONS, which it never, ever discusses. The bit of resistance highlighted in the present article is OK, but much broader solutions should be examined– else why talk about what’s wrong?

Mr Y
Mr Y
Jan 10, 2023 2:58 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Hear the woman!

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Jan 9, 2023 4:17 PM

Did we all get this wrong?

There is the possibility that we all got it wrong. And my wrong I mean the following;

A virus is what both sides of the equation keep referring it as. The majority have no clue what a virus is. What ever this is its not behaving like a virus is it?

We use the argument that Covid is not real. Well its not if its not a virus but something is real and the deaths are starting to pile up and of course the WHIO and all complacent governments are quite on this.

To the anti mob its the vaccines that are killing people. To me its not so simple. The vaccines could have been placebos for all we know.

The hypothesis : This polypeptide was developed in a lab and then it was released into the populace. Why and for what reason …. ask Dr.Fauci. Seems know one is.

It could very well be that what we are seeing now, in the spike of what is termed excess mortality rates, is the result of this protien entity that seems to invade and then leave. Something a virus does not behave like.

So perhaps just perhaps the expected mortality that many true scientists were perplexed about because they were not in the data in 2019/2020 are finally here now and perhaps now is the time to investigate what really went on and what is really going on.

Its odd that they don’t seem to care about it anymore.

Look at Tanzania and Sweden.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jan 9, 2023 5:34 PM
Reply to  Berlin Beerman

No, speak for yourself, Reason is cloudy. A Quiet retrospectively dismissive Person easily changes to a mode of thought resulting in a clear opinion. Embrace being embarrassed within an inhuman dimension full of characters you will never meet Personally.

mgeo
mgeo
Jan 10, 2023 7:57 AM
Reply to  Berlin Beerman

Are you trying to conflate the jab deaths with “covid” deaths?

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jan 10, 2023 1:21 PM
Reply to  Berlin Beerman

Sorry. I don’t believe in ‘viruses’ that cause strokes and heart attacks.

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 9, 2023 4:09 PM

Absolutely nope.
The British have done no such thing.
If they had beaten back ‘The New Normal’, its perpetrators would have been ejected from the theatre, instead of hanging about in the wings, smoking and drinking coffee while they wait for their next cue.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jan 9, 2023 6:59 PM
Reply to  wardropper

It’ll have brown sugar in it..Claudia Puss. Anti-socials have coming and going labels all over Them. It’s A gift sugar puff rubberlips.
Going for a walk I kept colliding into trees, then it hit me, I’d stood in dog shite. Obviously not fresh reason was suggestive of it being normal.
Think on..as the old duffers used to say…so I pressed on…
It’s a back up for us Yorkshire folk.

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 9, 2023 8:12 PM
Reply to  Clive Williams

I had some formative years in Yorkshire, but I’m still not sure I know what you mean, Clive . . .

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jan 10, 2023 12:46 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Dogid determination throughout thick and thin, a feeling of confidence hand in hand with an air of contentment…??
lol! something like that..
Good luck

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 10, 2023 3:03 PM
Reply to  Clive Williams

Thanks for the bloomin’ clarification.
Good luck to you too 🙂

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 9, 2023 4:06 PM

The Graud keeps the flame burning:

“For better or worse, the pandemic seems slated to fade from our collective memory”

Sorry, but there’s nothing to fade.

“9/11’s death toll was a fraction of Covid’s, ….”

????!!!!

“but there will probably be no comparable memorial for the over 40,000 New Yorkers killed by the virus”

Oh I’m sure there will be soon.

“What will we remember of the plague years?”

The what years?

“It’s easy to project on to the future what we feel now, the memories of the suffering so visceral,”

The what?

“….the evidence of the reckoning clear enough.”

Clear?

“In 2020, Covid deaths were a terror, and 100,000 of them were worthy of bellowing headlines on the front page of the New York Times.”

Well the headlines were certainly bellowing. But what about?

“And then the body counts, for those not experiencing them directly,….”

That would be everyone.

“…became more ordinary,”

No, they became more absurd.

“the carnage a backdrop to another year.”

That would be a MEDIA backdrop to another year.

“There was no reprieve in 2021. The pandemic swallowed us up, if not killing then destabilizing…..”

Destabilising indeed… but from this point on, the article can be replaced with screams, shrieks, moans etc. As our hack writer does his damndest to please his parasitic masters in whipping up hysteria from a now totally bored populace.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 9, 2023 4:28 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The whole thing is here:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/09/pandemic-fading-collective-memory

And it gives itself away in its very title. If “the plague years” wre truly as horrible as they make out, then there is no way they’d just fade from our collective memory. But I reckon the Graud would say that it’s the Right Wing fascistic press that are burying the pandemic! These are the games you can play when you control all channels.

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 9, 2023 4:42 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“There’s nothing to fade” . . . ?

Well I still want their names melted into large titanium blocks.

Where are Fauci, Hancock, Whitty, Ferguson et al right now?
I won’t be forgetting them in a hurry.

semaj
semaj
Jan 10, 2023 9:32 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Counting their millions along with 650 scumbags in Westminster who went along with the whole thing and most still are and squabbling to keep a finger hold on the gravy train. And, do you know what, the simple retarded British public will still vote for these tossers thinking they have a say. McKrankie is now on the rampage again ordering mask wearing so lets see how many will comply, which will be an indicator as to how many have woken up to the fact that NO One in power actually cares about Joe and Josephine public. Andrew Bridgen is a lone voice in the Westminster coven but where was he over the past 3 years?

Grafter
Grafter
Jan 10, 2023 10:38 AM
Reply to  semaj

Yep these political opportunists would conform to any shit that comes from the monied elite. The system is a one trick pony and Westminster is nothing but a club for aspiring high earners to line their bank accounts.. We desperately need a new system where these types are barred from public office.

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 10, 2023 3:27 PM
Reply to  Grafter

I fear such a system cannot exist, because politicians either expect to be handsomely paid, or come from privileged families so wealthy that they don’t even need to be paid.
Either way, we’re screwed once big money enters the picture.
Jesus Himself wouldn’t be allowed into a public debate anywhere within the reach of the ‘authorities’.

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 10, 2023 3:15 PM
Reply to  semaj

I’ll never forget how empty the House of Commons was when he gave his excellent, informed speech, in the face of a dense opponent who simply said that “the vaccines are safe and effective anyway, so nya nya nya”.
Incredible times we live in when our Govt. has reached the bottom, yet keeps digging downwards…

semaj
semaj
Jan 11, 2023 8:45 AM
Reply to  wardropper

So true.

WillianHill
WillianHill
Jan 9, 2023 3:51 PM

Is the ‘counter revolution’ real or is it just as orchestrated as the COVID scam itself, intended to elevate the right wing & the far right and their little operatives to the position of heroes, from their historical position of scum bags. A lot of the opposition smells bad.

It is funny how Piers Corbyn, a socialist, was under arrest every time he left his house to protest the measures, yet the far right got a new TV station in the UK, to broadcast their skepticism about COVID. Funny that.

Penelope
Penelope
Jan 9, 2023 9:58 PM
Reply to  WillianHill

Yeah, you just keep pushing those wedge issues. Mustn’t have unity.

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 10, 2023 3:32 PM
Reply to  Penelope

To be fair, the wedge between the ‘authorities’ and the public has always existed.
It starts with the school bully when we’re six, and ends with Rishi Sunak implying we’re all terrorists who need to be stamped on . . .
The Corbyns of this world must know that, but at least they seem to be trying.

copter
copter
Jan 14, 2023 1:43 AM
Reply to  WillianHill

there is no far right.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jan 9, 2023 3:39 PM

So, after spending about seven minutes reading the article, I experienced about the same level of stimulation I get when watching laundry tumble round and round in a dryer…

banana
banana
Jan 9, 2023 1:58 PM

These so-called ‘fr33dom movements’ are an absolute farce and have been from the moment these very obvious intelligence agency/FM created and controlled groups (KBF, Stand Up X, Together, Corona Investigative Committee, etc) were formed back in June 2020. At the time there had been a real surge of people on social media wanting to get active and involved in fighting back against the Agenda 2030 rollout disguised (badly) as a ‘pandemic’. 

banana
banana
Jan 9, 2023 3:34 PM
Reply to  banana

Revolution implies the circular aspect of a movement, where does one always end up after one revolution? the same place! The theme will change but the great game with no name will remain the same. The circle must always complete itself (ouroboros)……The only winning move is not to play.

entitled2
entitled2
Jan 9, 2023 12:32 PM

Not to sure.? if the programmer has been on the vino all weekend.
But to palm these no namers as a form of revolutionists is a insult to your commentators.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jan 9, 2023 12:25 PM

ah, back to the good old days, empire maybe, certainly many at tcw seem to dream of this.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 9, 2023 12:22 PM

Fox’s card is well and truly marked as some kind of agent/operator:

How To Spot A Fakestream Media PSYOP Part 2 / Hugo Talks – YouTube

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 9, 2023 12:25 PM
Reply to  Mucho

“Fox’s public persona via Covid was unique, I thought. With his appearance on Question Time,”

Nuff said.

fertility
fertility
Jan 9, 2023 11:57 AM

Imagine our surprise.
A Reality actor – turned wannabe politician ! the originality of that script – so amazing original.
Now a political talking head pundit on shill be news (GBNEWS).

Sly old fox.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jan 9, 2023 9:12 PM
Reply to  fertility

“Lewis” is fiction.

fertility
fertility
Jan 9, 2023 11:41 AM

Holy crap, what multidimensional shit-take death strategising were the UK’s Public Death experts thinking – just what dafuq am I missing here?
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TOM
TOM
Jan 15, 2023 6:41 PM
Reply to  fertility

EXCEPT we did not defeat it , only delayed it ,maybe germ theory lie must be exposed then there is no justification for any TOXIC INJECTIONS they claim are safe and effective This is how we WIN

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jan 9, 2023 11:05 AM

Beaten Back ?

So these individuals beat back the new normal ? Never heard of them.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jan 9, 2023 9:13 PM

It helps if you’re British.

cs pa
cs pa
Jan 9, 2023 11:03 AM

Thank you for the summary. Certainly these events are encouraging but I would contest the basic assertion “how the British beat back the New Normal”?

Did they really?  UK “Since 11 November 2021, all care home workers, and anyone entering a care home, have needed to be fully vaccinated”. It hardly matters if the thing was rescinded in March 2022 after the damage was done and the shots had been duly injected into bodies. Ditto for many universities.

As far as I can tell, regardless of country, the only people who were able to resist were the ones who
a) had sufficient funds in their accounts to survive being unemployed
AND
b) did not have jobs in any large corporation / academic / government / NGO / any other large institution.

Most people I know who work within the NHS network had already jabbed themselves (several times) before it became known that they would not need to. Everyone I know in the UK has been jabbed several times over. The ones who work as teachers and doctors repeat the mantra like programmed robots. One NHS GP even said to me that it’s absolutely right to sit at home with a fever for ten days and doctors should not be bothered before then. When that same person came down with a fever and sore throat, she had a GP friend write her a prescription for antibiotics by day three. Do as I say, not as I do.

I appreciated reading about all the initiatives, most of which have parallels all over the “free world” but talking about “British resistance” just makes me roll my eyes unless it’s meant ironically.

KB Goldtooth
KB Goldtooth
Jan 9, 2023 12:32 PM
Reply to  cs pa

Hey friend. Thanks for reading. I tried – particularly in the conclusion – to stress that it’s a complex (and FAR from rosy) picture. There was a lot of horrific stuff and yes immense conformity and oppression in the UK during this period (much of it apparent in the stories of the people I spoke to), but there was a vein of positivity also, which is what i set out to highlight, however imperfectly. The full complexities of the situation are easier to flesh out in conversation that in a piece of writing, which serves another purpose. But I do feel that those complexities are at least represented. Anyhow, your points are valid and I appreciate them. KB.

cs pa
cs pa
Jan 10, 2023 10:13 AM
Reply to  KB Goldtooth

Yes, positivity is much needed! I fear I’ve become too jaded and cynical.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jan 9, 2023 9:13 PM
Reply to  cs pa

I resisted and I’ve a self employed pauper.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jan 9, 2023 11:03 AM

5G

What is wrong with opposing 5G ? Milder forms of EMF radiation have already killed off the bees and are undoubtedly causing cancer.

fertility
fertility
Jan 9, 2023 11:43 AM

5G

KB Goldtooth is this new woke alt right but he she doesn’t no it yet.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jan 9, 2023 9:56 AM

Beaten Back ?

I am not sure if the psyop has been beaten back. The British were certainly not in the forefront of the resistance. They are 95% clot shot.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Jan 9, 2023 10:19 AM

MSM?

Norman
Norman
Jan 9, 2023 11:00 AM

Nearer 75%. Don’t believe the propaganda.

Other reported figures seem to include Bulgaria 30%, Australia or Portugal ~90%. So we escaped the worst. But the trust here in the NHS would help to explain why in my age range (60-70) it seems to have got to ~92%.

I can only assume that in Bulgaria some people in positions of power decided not to push the stuff. 30% is the lowest figure in Europe, as far as I can tell.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 9, 2023 12:12 PM
Reply to  Norman

I believe the high quotes of 90%. Where is your 75% figure coming from? Most people went and got it, at least one, including the dumb young. They saw everyone else doing it and went along with it, plus with the added bonus of all the advanced psychological warfare tactics being used on them, they had no hope. Well, if they actually used the resource called “the internet” they might have done. I am amazed, you would have thought the kids would have been right on the case with all the readily available info, but no, they had no idea of the danger they were in by surrendering to this evil agenda and being jabbed with the Satanic serum, for the most part, unless their parents were strongly anti. We are living in times of extreme ignorance, which has coincided with the fact that never before has so much information been so freely available. Although ironically, I do believe that because convid has been so extreme and criminal and off the charts mentally ill in nature, people are now starting to take more seriously the allegations of foul play from the organised crime networks known as governments.

Russian Hank
Russian Hank
Jan 9, 2023 2:15 PM
Reply to  Mucho

Only middle-aged or nearly middle-aged people know how to use the internet. Anyone older is completely confused and anyone younger is addicted to their phone and tiktok.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Jan 9, 2023 10:01 PM
Reply to  Russian Hank

The dumb phones helped a lot in creating the passivity and herd mentality necessary to promulgate the plandemic.

Mucho
Mucho
Jan 10, 2023 12:29 PM

But you would have thought that with this ability to share info so rapidly and with it being such a massive topic with everyone having nothing but free time and the fact the young are so hooked on this microwave based data technology and all the blatant abuses of power and all the box office “opposition” – some of which was of course controlled opposition but even so take someone as high profile as Robert Malone giving speeches to warn people directly not to take it – nothing seemed to permeate the minds of the young, they remained oblivious throughout for the most part. I find that incredible and it just goes to show how effective these criminals are with their techniques. They have got people in a complete trance.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 9, 2023 9:50 AM

The once unthnkable collapse of the NHS is now gleefully being announced everywhere. This could never have happened without covid.

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jan 9, 2023 9:15 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Except that is has been reported in the Guardian for at least ten years now. You ought to read it.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 9, 2023 9:47 PM
Reply to  John Pretty

“Gleefully” is the key word here. Of course the NHS was never popular with our overlords but they’re going for the kill now and they are in acceleration mode.

Try not to be so petulant JP.

semaj
semaj
Jan 10, 2023 9:52 AM
Reply to  John Pretty

Every year for at least 30 years now the NHS is in dire straights from November to March and nothing changes except throwing money at it to employ more diversity managers. The NHS have supported the covid scam throughout so are directly complicit in the dead and dying by the evil doctors issuing and forcing DNRs on relatives and patients. !000s within the NHS ( I was just following orders) should be on trial for crimes against humanity along with the spineless 650 in Westminster. I will never trust a doctor again.

semaj
semaj
Jan 10, 2023 1:22 PM
Reply to  semaj

Sorry, should say 1000s. Pridoctik tocks again!!

Koba
Koba
Jan 9, 2023 8:43 AM

“The different parts of the UK offered different responses to Covid. Scotland for instance was much more like the other major European countries – by and large, it closed in upon itself and on itself.

Scotland is ethnically homogenous, with tight-knit communities, yet the character of its nationalist leadership is hyper-liberal – Boris Johnson’s brief and facile flirtation with herd immunity was enough to instill an enduring, still more hysterical overreaction north of the border.”

The Scots have been a massive let down since they allowed the media to terrify them into voting against independence. Followed the science? Tick
Support Ukraine? Tick
Advocation for the mentally ill in dresses? Tick
Far too liberal for their own good

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 9, 2023 11:11 AM
Reply to  Koba

We’re the ultimate “Leftist” dupes, hopelessly wedded to an anachronistic self-flattering vision of ourselves as gritty factory proles but feebly following whatever woke crap gets churned out next. We were ripe for the phony covid “uprising” where we get to “stick it to Boris” by “forcing lockdowns on him”.

What marks this Left is a naiveté that is fixed on socio-economic movements described in lots of polysyllabic essays but blind to the most glaring contradictions staring them in the face e.g. a media under the control, as always, of the ruling class but now apparently speaking “truth to power”

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jan 9, 2023 7:01 PM
Reply to  Koba

FUBAR befits auld Alba.

a mess, monolingual canadians for comparison.

and wht the feck happened to Ireland?

ochone

node
node
Jan 9, 2023 8:39 AM

“Second perhaps only to France, UK Covid dissidents protested doggedly against the restrictions, in their tens and even hundreds of thousands.”
Since 2020, I have been to Spain, France, the UK and Germany. The earliest and largest protest movement against this nonsense has been, and is continuing to be, undoubtedly in Germany.

mgeo
mgeo
Jan 9, 2023 2:17 PM
Reply to  node

Perhaps largely due to the medical experts – excommunicated but still credible – who spoke out from the start.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 9, 2023 8:26 AM

The case of Enoch Burke, a teacher who refuses to use the non-binary pronouns, has risen again. This is the fundamental pseudo-cultural division scam at its most naked. Because Burke is a Christian- a fact almost always mentioned when this matter rises. Thus the old Left/Right conservative/progressive notion comes out to shepherd the readers into the requisite pens.

Koba
Koba
Jan 9, 2023 8:46 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Been saying that now for a decade. If the elite really wanted to kill off the left they should just have the daily mail start an anti paedo campaign cos automatically the “other side” will have to go against that cos it’s a “rIgHt wInG buzzword” and they’re “oppressed”. Mark my words. They really would do that.

Edwige
Edwige
Jan 9, 2023 9:08 AM
Reply to  George Mc

That name sounds like a manufactured identity.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 9, 2023 9:54 AM
Reply to  Edwige

That occurred to me too. A combination of Enoch Powell and Edmund Burke.

George Mc
George Mc
Jan 9, 2023 10:12 AM
Reply to  George Mc

These are of course two thinkers associated with conservatism and reaction.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jan 9, 2023 7:09 PM
Reply to  Edwige

loadsa that everywhere, actually absurd on the -fiction- msm, lol

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jan 9, 2023 9:16 PM
Reply to  Edwige

So does Edwige.

Penelope
Penelope
Jan 9, 2023 8:13 AM

Ever seen the Washington DC “revolution” of Jan 6? Documentary video
demonstrating a set-up, gross injustice, and provacateurs
:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/the-real-story-of-jan-6-documentary_4596670.html

Koba
Koba
Jan 9, 2023 8:47 AM
Reply to  Penelope

While the article is true the epoch times is an anti communist CIA backed Falun Gong cult newspaper. Only the highly gullible would fall for their Spiel.

Penelope
Penelope
Jan 9, 2023 9:24 AM
Reply to  Koba

Koba, it is a highly credible documentary FILM of the action and testimony of participants and experts on police rules of engagement, entrapment, etc.

I got the documentary from Paul Craig Roberts via Lew Rockwell
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/01/paul-craig-roberts/the-democrats-and-their-fbi-gestapo-have-brought-nazism-to-america/

His brief summary article is worth reading. at this link.

Koba
Koba
Jan 9, 2023 11:00 AM
Reply to  Penelope

I know that. It still doesn’t stop it being a CIA front for a religious cult.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jan 9, 2023 9:46 AM
Reply to  Koba

It was communist China that got this monstrous psyop going. And they may well get it going again.

Koba
Koba
Jan 9, 2023 11:01 AM

Was it? Pretty sure it was the worst and AP and Reuters doing fake photos of dead people on the streets of china. Or does your memory have the same problem as most westerners: it’s short.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jan 9, 2023 1:13 PM
Reply to  Penelope

The Great Fedsurrection of 2021.

Hele
Hele
Jan 9, 2023 7:27 AM

Over the past two years I had to sneak into two hospitals -once to pick up my husband post op and one to see my old dad.And, I managed to get into a stadium for a trade show-where I first saw my first concert-Jethro Tull and last concert there-Talking Heads.I was so pissed off, hurt and determined to get in.

Edwige
Edwige
Jan 9, 2023 9:13 AM
Reply to  Hele

Talking Heads:
1) Bassist – daughter of an admiral and her brother designed the Louvre pyramid.
2) Drummer – son of military parents and born on a military base.
3) Lead singer – father worked for Westinghouse in the heart of the MIC.

They pushed multiple elite agendas ranging from the serial killerpsy-op of the 1970s to world music/globalisation. “Don’t worry about the government” indeed!

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jan 10, 2023 8:33 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Edvige, we get it … you’re a huge Barry Manilow fan and with good reason.
But thanks for your as usual spot-on musical critique

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Jan 9, 2023 7:01 AM

We were not all subservient soulless sheep…

Penelope
Penelope
Jan 9, 2023 5:12 AM

FACTIONALISM & RESISTANCE

Perhaps factional foment may help our resistance. I get the feeling not all the big mucky-mucks want to go to the WEF plan– at least not yet.

Musk, Twitter, the limited fight against censorship– at least certain TYPES of censorship– is indication of factionalism. Somebody or a group of somebodies is behind him; I don’t know who or what their agenda is. It’s clear that whoever’s behind him wants to damage elements of Intelligence and some powerful governing US politicians.

Could be they just want a channel to propagandize those who’ve rejected the mainstream propaganda, but the disclosures seem likely to bring more people into media & govt skepticism. Unless it’s to push the “Partition the US” movement.

Poll shows 24% of Americans plan to move for political reasons. And that’s on top of the many who’ve already left CA & NY. Florida & Texas have had quite an influx. Doesn’t sound like sheep to me: Sounds like people ripe to join a movement serving their interests.

There’s the fight for the speakership, too. Quite significant re the depth of investigations to come.

And Fox News w Tucker Carlson; not sure that’s just limited hangout.

Lastly, I’m probably just paranoid, but have thought for years that they’re grooming Julian Assange for something– not grooming exactly– glory-washing I guess.

There was sometimes a bit of foot-dragging in Britain over the vaxx; she frequently let the US be point-man, and still gives apparently honest statistics via the ONS.

Internationally, why in the world did they send Angela Merkel out to admit that the Minsk Agreement was pure fraud by US, Britain & NATO? Is it JUST part of tearing the West down as quickly as possible? (And building UP Russia & China?) Seems to have had imm’y results in UN votes.

Koba
Koba
Jan 9, 2023 8:49 AM
Reply to  Penelope

America is the root cause of most of the world’s problems and should be split into at least 4 separate nations

Penelope
Penelope
Jan 9, 2023 9:36 AM
Reply to  Koba

The American people need to take back their govt & money supply. American foreign policy has long been under the control of organizations like the CFR. We have had only one Secretary of State who was not a CFR member since Rockefeller founded the CFR, which was modelled after– and an extension of– a British organization having the same goal of global rule.

Koba
Koba
Jan 9, 2023 11:02 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Take back their government? When was it ever theirs? Dates please

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Jan 9, 2023 11:55 AM
Reply to  Koba

FDR’s Employment and Wage Strategy Worked

“This all changed under FDR. The key to evaluating Roosevelt’s performance in combating the Depression is the statistical treatment of many millions of unemployed engaged in his massive workfare programs. The government hired about 60 per cent of the unemployed in public works and conservation projects that planted a billion trees, saved the whooping crane, modernized rural America, and built such diverse projects as the Cathedral of Learning in Pittsburgh, the Montana state capitol, much of the Chicago lakefront, New York’s Lincoln Tunnel and Triborough Bridge complex, the Tennessee Valley Authority and the aircraft carriers Enterprise and Yorktown.

It also built or renovated 2,500 hospitals, 45,000 schools, 13,000 parks and playgrounds, 7,800 bridges, 700,000 miles of roads, and a thousand airfields. And it employed 50,000 teachers, rebuilt the country’s entire rural school system, and hired 3,000 writers, musicians, sculptors and painters, including Willem de Kooning and Jackson Pollock. So much for the notion that government jobs are not “real jobs”, as we hear persistently from critics of the New Deal!”

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 9, 2023 4:25 PM
Reply to  Penelope

The ‘American people’ are too complacent to take anything back.
They don’t even know it’s missing, although they have noticed that the price of everything is rising – probably Putin’s fault . . .

By the way, I do not include the many really bright, humorous, perceptive and decent American individuals I know in that collective phrase, ‘The American People’.

George Carlin, for example, was not one of ‘The American People’.
He was an excellent human being, if somewhat rough around the edges.

Now, would the rest of America’s excellent human beings please come forward.
Your country needs you.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jan 10, 2023 8:39 PM
Reply to  wardropper

US of As … USAmericans. America is a hemisphere not a country.

semaj
semaj
Jan 11, 2023 8:52 AM
Reply to  wardropper

They will be busy prepping their weapons ready for the fight that is surely coming. Good on them, and how stupid are we to allow our disarmament.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jan 10, 2023 8:37 PM
Reply to  Penelope

You mean USAmericans right? America is an entire hemisphere and the Bozos illegally occupying a part of that hemisphere are a minority. In fact they are a worldwide minority.
You’re talking about the US of As, right?

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jan 9, 2023 1:18 PM
Reply to  Koba

I’m sure that’s the plan. BRICS will replace EU/NATO, becoming the preferred globalist agency for rolling out the Great Reset. China is the model for the élites: a vast, ‘social credit’ slave-state.

wardropper
wardropper
Jan 9, 2023 4:16 PM
Reply to  Koba

. . . all of which should be in the approximate vicinity of Atlantis . . .

Breathing apparatus would be available only to those who could pay vast sums of money.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jan 9, 2023 7:22 PM
Reply to  wardropper

ha ha

we need to let our “creative” dystopias freeee…

i mean that, … i see myself hunted by drones in some scrubland near George, lol, trying to sabotage a solyent pipeline, lol etc

we should keep cheer in the gloom, however grim.

cheers for the laugh War-D

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jan 9, 2023 7:57 PM
Reply to  Koba

london vatican berlin ompstdam???? and where? CH gasp!!!

america is an obsolete aircraft carrier . . . of said above

Grafter
Grafter
Jan 10, 2023 10:53 AM
Reply to  Koba

Make that a million pieces.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jan 10, 2023 8:34 PM
Reply to  Koba

Patience, my friend, patience …

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jan 9, 2023 3:27 AM

I haven’t finished this article because I got stuck on this “Just a few days later, a truly global liberation event occurred. The Freedom Convoy rolled into Ottawa, where it would know the instant wild success of routing the political personification of the New Normal, Justin Trudeau, from his own seat of power.”

Um. He’s still there. Nothing has changed. Maybe public perception?

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jan 9, 2023 4:13 AM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Same old story. When will we ever learn?

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jan 9, 2023 4:15 AM

That’s quite the misperception

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jan 9, 2023 10:14 AM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Why personalise Trudeau on a first name basis and highlight new normal, when an American may often say a new normalcy.

KB
KB
Jan 9, 2023 6:09 AM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Just meant that he fled Ottawa that night 🙂

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jan 9, 2023 4:21 PM
Reply to  KB

Ah, Okay. I felt bad about my little critique there. He did indeed retreat for a few days if not a week I think. Thank you for clearing that up.

Hele
Hele
Jan 9, 2023 7:36 AM
Reply to  syl shawcross

It was the best feeling to watch the convoy-to know the truth-that the people there were brave and kind.And,that an opposition party member went to talk to the protesters and now Trudeau and the narrative was finally getting push back.And, if you read comments in most of the National Post, some in the Globe and Mail-weren’t and aren’t deleted.CBC is of course the worst-lots of deactivate comments-which is also a form of communication.

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jan 9, 2023 4:29 PM
Reply to  Hele

Ah yes Hele. It was the most, I’d say, emotionally uplifting thing I’ve ever witnessed. They were brave and they were kind and anyone who missed that… I just don’t know what to say. It hurts that so many people could not see this because of the censorship. And we have to hold on to what they represented despite the propaganda and fear. Always.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jan 9, 2023 2:48 PM
Reply to  syl shawcross

In real life truck operation is one of the most rigidly controlled jobs that anyone can do. Absolutely nothing about that job if ‘free’, its all highly regulated — the vehicle iteself, driver licensing, driver hours, where and when the vehicle can be driven and what can be carried. The only ‘free’ bit is that owner/operators or contract drivers are preferred by haulage companies because they put a lot of the overhead and business risk on individuals, not the company.

Someone out there has a great sense of irony. None of the truckers seemed to notice.

(…and the specific complaint was related to immunization requirements for crossing the US/Canada border. Everyone is free not to cross that border.)

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
Jan 9, 2023 4:39 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

oh the rant i could give here martin 🙂 But i’m gonna let it go because it is cold outside and there’s snow all over the place and i’m not gonna let the world infuriate me today. Thank you for your opinion.

KB Goldtooth
KB Goldtooth
Jan 10, 2023 10:05 AM
Reply to  syl shawcross

Hey Syl. Of course he wasn’t deposed – but he ran from the capital that night. This was what i meant to allude to. Perhaps i should’ve been more specific. Nonetheless, if you didn’t feel that was a glorious moment, or that the truckers didn’t have a meaningful impact globally, I would have to disagree. Thanks for reading, KB.

KB Goldtooth
KB Goldtooth
Jan 10, 2023 3:58 PM
Reply to  KB Goldtooth

Oh lol i responded twice! Think i thought it was a different dude. Sorry pal see you already responded first time around 🙂

niko
niko
Jan 9, 2023 12:56 AM

“We are setting ourselves up to kick current covid crimes into the long grass for the next 60 years. Except this time it’s different. If we let covid go, there will be no revelatory broadcast in 2080 about covid-related crimes against humanity. Covid is our last chance to end the long arc of impunity because covid criminality is part of the Great Reset – the final revolution. Biomedical fascism, the digital gulag, digital currency, the climate crisis, and the transhumanist Fourth Industrial Revolution are the final dominoes in the endgame for total control. If we don’t stop these dominoes from falling now, our grandchildren will not have the luxury of waving their fists impotently in the rear-view mirror of history. History will have been memory-holed, the word ‘rebellion’ will have been removed from the dictionary and the emotion of anger will have been deleted from the brain-computer interface.”
-Rusere Shoniwa, Alleged CIA Involvement in JFK Assassination Goes Mainstream: So Now What?

Koba
Koba
Jan 9, 2023 8:52 AM
Reply to  niko

You might want to read up on the truth about the gulags. Even the CIA admitted they weren’t places went to be killed. But prisons where they were paid etc

Maarten "merethan"
Maarten "merethan"
Jan 9, 2023 9:33 AM
Reply to  Koba

wtf wrong with you bruh? These things were brutal life-shortening facilities. Most prominent and well-known on that list is the case of Sergei Korolev, who despite being the man making Soviet Russia win big milestones in the space race, got send to a gulag and had a much shorter and harder life than he should have had.
What ya saying makes about as much sense as someone saying taking the vaccine was actually just a suggestion, so no damages awarded to you. It’s bonkers.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jan 9, 2023 7:45 PM

they were camps for killing undesirables, herding scum criminals as role models and empowering armed morons to enforce all.
they were also businesses, cheap labour, certainly.
Koba makes it sound like fun, for some, even prisoners, it was ! but probably not for your average non-compliant free thinker, ; )

niko
niko
Jan 9, 2023 10:09 AM
Reply to  Koba

Yes, familiar with some of that criticism, as from Michael Parenti.

Koba
Koba
Jan 9, 2023 11:03 AM
Reply to  niko
Koba
Koba
Jan 9, 2023 11:04 AM
Reply to  Koba

Can’t wait for the downvote herd to read my article. Knobs. It’s true that 80% of all western commies are not worth a damn but it’s entirely true that 100% of all anti communists are idiots.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 9, 2023 3:43 PM
Reply to  Koba

This made me laugh out loud!

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jan 9, 2023 9:19 PM
Reply to  Koba

Bizarre. (No vote).

rubberheid
rubberheid
Jan 9, 2023 7:37 PM
Reply to  Koba

they were exactly like the anglo-(dutch) imperial enterprises, same as many an act of vicious conquest and processing the aftermath. nasty.

Dalstroi, a business. units in, how many units out? but in very extreme environments. Twas merely one of many.

Read ?Shalimov? “Kolyma Tales”,

makes it clear it was a business. but with endless souls/labour to fill their voids…. beyond all the tyrannical prison world stories.
Most prisoners became contractors, indeed, a merciless enterprise.

Is a book worth reading, even just for the description of the Taiga and mushroom picking ; /

John Pretty
John Pretty
Jan 9, 2023 9:18 PM
Reply to  Koba

You don’t have to believe everything the CIA tells you.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Jan 9, 2023 10:10 PM
Reply to  Koba

There was the highway of bones. Gold mined by gulag slaves was shipped to the coffers of the London bankers that financed the Bolshevik revolution.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 9, 2023 3:35 PM
Reply to  niko

Indeed. This reiterates the point of “Mistakes were not made” poem by Margaret Anna Alice.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jan 8, 2023 11:39 PM

Like, It’s a broadside in plain understandable English..cop that!