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OffG on…the Chinese “Spy Balloon”

Everyone is talking about the “Chinese spy balloon” this week, for some reason. It’s apparently a big deal, it even has its own Wikipedia page already.

After days of back-and-forth, the US finally got tough with the dirigible and blew it out of the sky. Boom. Take that, China.

Now comes the post-balloon drama. Endless toing-and-froing over who gets the wreckage, whether Trump would have handled it better, what this means for Taiwan or Ukraine or Cuba.

Questions will persist.

Questions like “what was it for?”

“Was it really a weather balloon blown off course, as China claimed?”

“Was it a warning sign “testing Biden’s mettle”?”

And most importantly, “Who cares? It’s a fucking balloon.”

All that said, we thought you’d all be keen to hear the thoughts of our editors, which are as follows:

It’s probably not real. If it is real it’s probably not spying. if it is spying so what? So are dozens of satellites, your cell phone, your TV, and all the software on your computer.

This is the zenith of manufactured geopolitical drama. That this story is dominating headlines at all is absurd. It’s a nothing burger. A double-nothing burger with extra cheese, made-up sauce and a side serving of who-cares fries.

It couldn’t be more obviously a pointless distraction if it was a big floating sign saying “This is a pointless distraction”.

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paul
paul
Feb 19, 2023 12:48 AM

Does anyone remember that 1960s TV series called The Prisoner with Patrick McGoohan?
They had a big balloon in that which floated along and smothered him and held him down when he was trying to escape from “The Village.”

Could this be something similar?

Maybe if you’re not vaxxed Fauci or somebody similar could send the balloon to get you.

Or a “Disinformation Expert” like Jankowicz could send the balloon down to get anyone she accuses of disinformation.

I’m not saying it is, but it makes you wonder.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Feb 17, 2023 10:26 PM

Kim Iverson: Dr Steven Greer Reveals The Truth Behind The Recent UAPs

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Feb 17, 2023 3:34 PM

There appear to be hobbyists who launch small balloons with radio transmitters on them and track them as they go around the world on the jet stream. The one shot down by the USAF over the Great Lakes appears to be one such device, it was launched by the “Northern Illinois Bottle Cap Balloon Brigade” and was on its third pass around the world. The hobby group knows it was its balloon because it went silent at the same place and at the same time as the Air Force reported the shoot down. That’s about half a million in taxpayer money used to nail about $20 worth of balloon. The kicker is that members of the group tried to contact ‘the government’ through the FBI and the like and were just given the brush off

I daresay this hobby will now be outlawed.

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
Feb 10, 2023 5:46 PM

I now suspect China sent that balloon with not only meteorological instruments but also detectors of anomalous energy emissions, such as the HAARP and direct energy weapons.
The flight path was right over the southern “meat ” of Alaska (where HAARP is located) on its way over NW Canada.
I would hazard that the instrument is something simple and easily overlooked.

Good on ’em! I wonder what correlations to adverse events with its use could be inferred…
or not.

Edwige
Edwige
Feb 9, 2023 12:01 PM

MTG’s antics during the state of the union address concerning the “spy balloon” terminate any idea that she’s genuine and somehow snuck through the control grid to get elected.

T.S.
T.S.
Feb 9, 2023 11:44 AM

Why does nobody in this discussion mention Goggle and “Project Loon” ? But you are right, most propably he whole damn thing ist a total distraction. Thank you, off-guardian, at least someone sees through all the smokes and mirrors.

YourPointBeing
YourPointBeing
Feb 8, 2023 11:09 AM

It seems to me this whole “story” is outright mockery.
Using a missile to shoot down a balloon then spending millions trying to recover the debris?
O RLY?
Oh and its possibly a limited hangout about the true nature of “satellites” that thing dangling off the balloon sure looked like one

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
Feb 7, 2023 7:25 PM

but only a banana-empire fires such an expensive missile to pop up a balloon!

don’t you think this is interesting?

padre
padre
Feb 9, 2023 7:13 PM
Reply to  GR-Watch

And it’s their own fault, that it is so expensive! They should have bought Russian one for 30% of the price, not counting the discount!

nmism
nmism
Feb 7, 2023 5:53 PM

The balloon is very significant.
Probably just some experiment that drifted off course.
How did they know it was Chinese?
Why are we so scared of each other?
Damn, I wish I could go to China, and Russia, and North Korea,
And play in their waterfalls.

YourPointBeing
YourPointBeing
Feb 8, 2023 11:11 AM
Reply to  nmism

It had a “made in china” label on it.
Just under the “property of the pentagon” label.

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
Feb 10, 2023 5:49 PM
Reply to  nmism

China informed them.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Feb 7, 2023 4:19 PM

Cannot assume that the balloon was CCP.
See Project Yucca, Operation Hardtack, 1958. US Military using balloons to detonate a nuclear device as a means of studying EMP.
Declassified in 2014.
The Tree of Liberty is thirsty.

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Feb 7, 2023 2:59 PM

The Red Balloon was a better movie than this White one was.

Tectonic weapons and weather balloons. The next big conspiracy theory is open for discussion here at OG.

Sometimes children lose their toys and spoiled bratty ones try to break them or pop them because they are basically just a bully.

No other deep thought moments …. just children playing stupid games.

Next time, please paint it Red so that Pascal can be happy once more.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Feb 7, 2023 3:16 PM
Reply to  Berlin Beerman

Dam, I’d forgotten about that film, thanks.

Victor G,
Victor G,
Feb 9, 2023 6:13 PM
Reply to  Berlin Beerman

What about the song?

NickM
NickM
Feb 7, 2023 11:50 AM

Alexander Mercouris had an unusual idea: he read China’s Englsh-version “Global Times” newspaper. “In terms of how to control such high-attitude balloons, a government spokesman said it is not the first time that balloons used for scientific research have gone off their intended paths. The spokesperson also emphasized that it was a complete accident, a case of force majeure [force of Nature], and [even?] the US Pentagon had made it clear that this balloon did not pose a military or personal threat.  “In disregard of China’s repeated explanations, the US insistence on using force is obviously an overreaction, and China firmly opposes it,” she said.  On whether the balloon accident will further affect already tense US-China relations, the spokesperson said this little incident tests the sincerity of the US in China-US relations and the way it handles potential crises.  “The US should meet China halfway, properly manage differences, and avoid… Read more »

stupor
stupor
Feb 7, 2023 11:31 AM

The problem with these distractions is that you have a stupid, frightened and prejudiced population egging on greedy and corrupt leaders. In the youtube Sky video of the balloon massacre you hear a spectator on the ground screeching “Wahoo! That’s mah air force right there buddy”. The content of the distraction is alway irrelevant (Colin Powell’s test tubes, planes disappearing like ghosts into skyscrapers). The consequences which are inevitably terrifying. If anyone had bothered to stop for five minutes to THINK on 9/11, 20 years of war could have been avoided. Planes cannot disappear into a building. It’s that simple. If they were physically there and not just images on a TV, a couple of wings MUST by definition have fallen AT THE MOMENT OF IMPACT to the ground below. All weather balloons always fly in the stratosphere, above the troposphere and ozone layer, well above commercial air traffic. They… Read more »

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Feb 8, 2023 5:43 AM
Reply to  stupor

It would appear your part of the same group you describe in your opening sentence. Japan does not require convincing, it’s a society that plays a complicated game of chess which tends to go against perceived western values, vanity come to mind first. They were given so much rope to hang themselves with that warranted survival in what has evolved into a hard core form of Shibari. Not very erotic is it. The Philippines will do tricks for cash to no ends. They too are starting to learn how to play the game. As for Taiwan, please. This island is and has always been part of China, even if the youth of Taiwan can’t read ….. their constitution. China haters ? The MSN is not considered to be a pool of highly intellectual researchers. If they were, they would never read the IMC scripts that are present to them. Military… Read more »

Penelope
Penelope
Feb 7, 2023 2:00 AM

IT’S NOW LEGAL TO ADD SECRET BUGS TO YOUR FOOD “From the new year 2023, the EU has given permission to add insects (domestic crickets) to baked goods, pasta and other semi-finished products “for the general public”.Although there is too little published knowledge about possible allergies and anaphylactic reactions, the European Commission is of the opinion that no specific labeling requirements regarding possible allergic reactions should be listed.” “Responsible for the approval:Ursula VON DER LEYEN, The following “consumer” products will soon be marketed with the addition of crickets (Acheta domesticus):- Multigrain bread- Multi-grain rolls- Crackers and breadsticks- Cereal bars- Dry premixes for bakery products- Cookies- filled and unfilled dry pasta products- sauces- Processed potato products- Legume and vegetable dishes- Pizza- General pasta and whey products- Meat substitutes (vegetarian alternatives to meat)- Soups and soup concentrates, soup powder- Cornmeal-based snacks- Beer-like beverages- Chocolate products, nuts and oilseeds- Snacks (excluding chips) and… Read more »

Hele
Hele
Feb 7, 2023 4:57 AM
Reply to  Penelope

I’m boiling mad all the goddam time.

Ananda
Ananda
Feb 7, 2023 9:08 AM
Reply to  Penelope

Its always been legal….. Everyone of them products, you mentioned have them in already and more. Penelope, if you actually stopped posting alt right woke crap, maybe read a few book. sit back try and remember things from like 20/30 years ago?? What do you think E numbers are.? what about food colouring in food. what are Preservative.? You really cant be that alt right woke thinking the E.U just now changed the laws. Unless the symptoms side effects of that food Is retardation.? then girl, you fit the criteria, the woke alt right sure do. You lot just cant think past the MIC funded indy media mindcontrol posts they give you to feed on read. from 2012.. In 2012, cochineal made headlines when Starbucks faced a public relations furor. Vegetarians and others who didn’t like the idea of eating bugs learned that the source of the red color in… Read more »

Shola
Shola
Feb 7, 2023 11:37 AM
Reply to  Ananda

You’re parody at this point with your repeated ‘woke alt right’ mantra of nonsense. No idea what point you’re making as all I see is your obsession with the mythical woke alt right. I’m a big fan, keep it up.

Victor G,
Victor G,
Feb 9, 2023 6:17 PM
Reply to  Shola

Are the “woke alt right” communists? I really need to know …

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
Feb 10, 2023 5:58 PM
Reply to  Victor G,

Entomologists.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 7, 2023 1:26 PM
Reply to  Ananda

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is American, not European.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Feb 7, 2023 4:39 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

We are all in it. Your right. Forget my post above it’s like peeing on the wind.

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
Feb 10, 2023 5:57 PM
Reply to  Ananda

Good points, but you are an asshole for putting in such a disparaging tone.
I mean, there are things that many have never thought about, not giving them the energy until they open their mouth and make that fateful “blah blah”, and then realize its back to school!

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 7, 2023 2:44 PM
Reply to  Penelope

This was legal in US long ago. It is an admission of the pervasive contamination of food. It may have followed from the global Uniform Commercial Code for long-distance and bulk trage. This Code even allows for a small percentage shortage or damage, unless specified otherwise, as that is the reality in shipping.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Feb 7, 2023 4:45 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Food in the US on a CONTINENT has to get to the STORES you bloody IDIOTS!
That’s the USA not to your DOOR or 100 metres to the nearest SHOP!
Thx

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Feb 7, 2023 3:35 PM
Reply to  Penelope

cornflour cornpaste corn syrup ww2 rationing. Slim down exercise get out there move walk jog running or you’ll become a obese., fat fuck botttom. You dont need a bloody gym thats for upper crust cronies and bullet no-neck dickheads.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Feb 7, 2023 7:46 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Tiring, militality hardware is globally manufactured for God’s sake. Your singalering a link without reconsidering conflicts, collaboration coalitions.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Feb 6, 2023 10:33 PM

Remembering the 1980’s when I went on foreign holidays and had no internet.

There were newspaper stands in Spain and Greece with UK red tops.

I never bought one.

Two weeks later I came home.

Nothing had changed.

Ever.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Feb 7, 2023 1:31 AM

Went all over the World without the internet. All you need is an Animal Farm Pig Sty called home to come back to. It’s called a Home Sickness, a longing to throw up…again.

Ananda
Ananda
Feb 7, 2023 9:11 PM

Have you forgotten off g is called gods waiting room.
Most commentator are in there 70’s 80’s. 👁 

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Feb 8, 2023 6:53 PM
Reply to  Ananda

What’s your excuse for being here? You’re so good at the insults for everyone and everything on this site, why the fuck are you here?

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Feb 6, 2023 10:27 PM

Earthquake shocker.Turkey and Syria.Really bad shit man.Thousands dead.How convenient.Wheres that balloon ?

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Feb 7, 2023 7:41 AM
Reply to  Marfanoi

and where’s those White Helmets ?

Ananda
Ananda
Feb 7, 2023 9:16 AM
Reply to  Marfanoi

,Earthquake !!!

Its the THE D.U.M.B.’s being blown up by Team Trump, there freeing the children out the underground prisons the democrats put in there.

Your lot, actually believed this nonsense not long ago.

DavidF
DavidF
Feb 7, 2023 10:29 AM
Reply to  Ananda

Blimey Ananda you really are some way down the hole. You ever crack a joke…..or a smile ?

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
Feb 10, 2023 6:00 PM
Reply to  DavidF

So far down the hole he needs an enema.

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 8, 2023 3:42 PM
Reply to  Ananda

Your Lot being … ?

Polish national Airliners ? 😂

If you could be serious for a single second…?
Do you mind if ask your thoughts on…
H.A.A.R.P. ?

NickM
NickM
Feb 6, 2023 10:24 PM

[Cynthia Chang contemplates the EU$A’s simultaneous pressure on Japan to fight China and on Germany to fight Russia. She concludes: the reality of the situation is that no nation is expected to survive WW3 as a sovereign power in a multi-polar world, but all nations will be subsumed under a new One World Order run by a cabal of bankers using NATZO as their mercenary army and Global Enforcer]. “It is not about the Western bloc against the Eastern bloc. It is about the ruination of all nations and the formation of One Empire, or if you prefer the wording, One World Government. This is the League of Nations vision that has been the dream of a very small grouping since the First World War. “It is not about Western Democracy or Liberalism or Western Value Systems. It is about (and has always been about) the reinstitution of systems of… Read more »

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
Feb 7, 2023 9:05 AM
Reply to  NickM

You have it in one and Iain Davis agrees:
https://iaindavis.com/the-patrushev-oversight/

Brian Sides
Brian Sides
Feb 6, 2023 9:03 PM
Jill
Jill
Feb 6, 2023 7:55 PM

The balloon first entered territorial waters of the US on Jan. 28th. It was not mentioned by the military until civilians spotted it. It took civilian pressure to follow international law and either take possession (preferable) or shoot it down. These types of balloons can communicate w/many stations on the ground and it would be helpful to know what info it had collected. Too bad the govt. shot the payload, not the balloon, so no information will be retrieved. The other thing revealed is the the people running Biden were overruled by the military, the exact opposite of the US Constitution’s chain of command. So I for one do find the over rule of the military to be concerning. Although it is clear to me that the military is part of the real group running my nation, this is but one more confirmation of that fact. I would hope this… Read more »

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Feb 8, 2023 5:51 AM
Reply to  Jill

That Balloon communicated more with you and several million citizens of your Nation, than it did with anyone else.

Sal P
Sal P
Feb 6, 2023 7:46 PM

I’m a bit surprised that Off-G and 99%+ of the comments are writing this off as a “nothing-burger.”

Here’s another viewpoint worthy of consideration:

https://alt-market.us/chinese-spy-balloons-potential-purposes-for-the-high-altitude-invasion/

Granted, the article link above is speculative in nature but I don’t think the Chinese govt can be trusted any further than the US govt, or any other govt for that matter.

We (meaning the entire planet) are at war on many different fronts.

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 6, 2023 9:15 PM
Reply to  Sal P

And I’m sure the US govt was as helpless before the Chinese balloon as they were before those “Muslim hijackers” on 9/11.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Feb 6, 2023 9:22 PM
Reply to  Sal P

All governments work together in the panopticon. The illusion of rivalry is sold to peasants.

Sal P
Sal P
Feb 7, 2023 12:15 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

We should keep in mind that this whole show is being run by psychopaths so who can know for sure where they’ll draw the line.

eman
eman
Feb 7, 2023 2:46 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

the glue that constitutes the common foundation of the panopticon, is something like the tile floor; in that it is supported by a wooden framework embedded into a concrete foundation. The secrete operations of these spy agencies and intelligence services are the glue; they direct the media and the control groups of inter nation politics; so the nation states act as one unified mass and so its managers direct government forces in the same direction. Governments are controlled by their independent son and privately owned daughter, all three are NHOs. The difference is the operations of the government is subject to oversight by vote of those who are the governed; while there is no political oversight of the son or daughter. The son or daughter NHOs operate in secret and without oversight restraints imposed by those who are the governed and by their own parent governments. Oligarchs work to get… Read more »

eman
eman
Feb 7, 2023 1:58 AM
Reply to  Sal P

I cannot speak for Off-G forces, but most of the armies seeking truth I have encountered are at war with no one except the NHOs (non human organizations:corporations, partnerships, franchises, trust). The NHOs run the Western members of the nation state system? When the parent NHO (government) divides its monopoly powers into segments and moves segments from the government into a privately owned or independently operated NHO, two bad things happen: 1. secret: all things about the application, operation and use of the relocated monopoly power are removed from the view of those who are the governed and 2 all decisions to accept|reject what the private managers of the removed and relocated monopoly power have decided is no longer subject to a vote by those who are the governed. That is voters no longer have any say in anything. . As a result the nation state is no longer relevant… Read more »

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Feb 6, 2023 7:19 PM

Distraction from what ?

Eyegore
Eyegore
Feb 6, 2023 8:18 PM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Vaccine deaths. US Dollar collapse. The collapsing narrative in Ukraine.

May Hem
May Hem
Feb 6, 2023 9:17 PM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Digital Currency, New Word Order, 15 minute cities, 5G, Chrislam (their new religion), creating division, elimination of the middle classes, propaganda ……… need I continue?

Penelope
Penelope
Feb 7, 2023 2:05 AM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Exactly, Jubal. What else cd such a giant nothing-burger be about– except distraction?

I wd guess it’s to displace the half-drunk Pfizer employee video. It’s being said that 40 million people saw it on twitter & at least 10 different alternative sites have picked it up. Plus Fox.

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Feb 7, 2023 3:11 AM
Reply to  Penelope

I was distracted by Offguardian’s article. Now i’m distracted by the Comments section.

Victor G,
Victor G,
Feb 9, 2023 6:30 PM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Get a grip, son. How about a distraction from 40+ Palestinians, including numerous minors, murdered in their homeland by the IDF. Most of the global majority, if it had a voice, would find this worthy of severe censure.

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 6, 2023 7:16 PM

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/06/rio-carnival-returns-brazil-pandemic-hiatus A “Carnival of democracy” explodes in Rio after the gloomy “Right Wing” dictatorship. “I feel ecstatic,” says someone who feels ecstatic. Though there seems to be some confusion as to whether the previous utter gloom was caused through “the coronavirus pandemic” which “forced a two-year hiatus that took an economic and emotional toll on Rio and its carnival-starved residents” or whether it was due to “the devastating four years of Jair Bolsonaro’s far-right presidency”. Indeed, the confusion continues with this: “Although out-of-season samba parades were held last year, the street celebrations were restricted to a smattering of rebellious blocos that defied a ban on the free gatherings.” Umm ….. but weren’t these gatherings banned because of ever wise – and allegedly “Leftist” concerns over the big bad bug? Obviously not: “The creative sector suffered hugely, as Bolsonaro’s disdain for Brazilian culture trickled down into policy. His government got rid… Read more »

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 7, 2023 3:30 AM
Reply to  George Mc

99 red balloons ! Have exactly what to do with China ?

Write now !

You are OTT . . . Off topic, tosser.

covidiot
covidiot
Feb 7, 2023 11:16 PM
Reply to  Balkydj

“Balkydj” returns! How are things at the CIA?

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 8, 2023 8:54 AM
Reply to  covidiot

Hi Milosevic-covidiot: I’m in Denmark at the moment, trying to figure out just how amiss you and the Danes can possibly be, regarding Bornholm and the state funded Terrorism on NORDSTREAM pipelines. My conclusions being drawn already, are that you and the vast majority of Danes are as thick as pigshit, scientifically speaking.

It’s a boring exercise really, rather like your comments, boss: but, it gives me plenty of time to look upwards and study the effects of H.A.A.R.P. applications from Rostock in Germany … not that you understand the science ! You always avoid the subject of
GEO-ENGINEERING WEATHER & any other significant application of science…

How’s your new team of trolls working out ?

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 8, 2023 7:00 PM
Reply to  George Mc

You are not much of an Mc either, George. I just read this comment more thoroughly, after my initial speed read, out of curiosity: given other’s suspicions regarding you and your OTT behaviours. Obviously you know that this comment is entirely & utterly irrelevant and off-topic: you have not moderated this bad habit in the slightest… and Sam does not give a fuk, either way. Just like you don’t give a fuk regarding military intelligence abusing very young orphaned children in Ireland or anywhere for that matter… so, I’ll leave you to your devices and in the gutter of human excrement: which you are TRANS-FIXED by, and glued to, too… and focus on the absence of any musical talent, instead. You completely fuk’d up the iambic pentameter and have no sense of the rhythm in Latin 🎶 music. “Olé, olé, olé olá, Lula.”” is wrong, quite simply: your copy/paste pasta… Read more »

Annie
Annie
Feb 6, 2023 7:09 PM

I live in the UK my local shop has no eggs no milk no butter.Ive spent 70 pounds in 5 days for electricity.I got 66 pounds a month fuel help?It covers nothing,I wish I had a open fire I don’t I’m stuck paying this crap for 5 minutes of heat.Imagine elderly dying of cold or hunger they already tried to kill them off with convid. Everything is planned these wars and famines the world gives us everything food shelter it’s these parasites that want money and be rich and eat endangered animals. And then they turn around and blame us for everything and people believe it.Sorry I needed to rant I love humanity I don’t like people taken for idiots x

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Feb 6, 2023 8:02 PM
Reply to  Annie

Stop paying for energy, stop paying for water. Stop paying council tax. Stop being scared of a numpty with a clipboard and joke police.

Marfanoi
Marfanoi
Feb 6, 2023 10:19 PM
Reply to  Annie

Yeah they blame us for everything.The advert says buy this and your life will be brilliant.Then 20 years later you are a criminal for buying that thing they pushed on you.paz x

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 7, 2023 4:19 AM
Reply to  Marfanoi

Round up , round up , this is the age of diamond dogs…

Chemistry , in simple terms…

Berlin Beerman
Berlin Beerman
Feb 8, 2023 5:54 AM
Reply to  Annie

It hurts when the tables get turned eh? its always about you. Perhaps sits time to think about everyone. There are many in pain and it’s time you put some of that thought to action.

Ananda
Ananda
Feb 6, 2023 6:58 PM

Nicholas Tutora @Tutora2020A Voice for Liberty, Actor, Director, Public Speaker, Pharmacist, Former Republican Candidate for U.S. Congress .

What if there’s a nuclear device inside? Or chemical weapons, or a new Covid? The only hesitation in shooting it down is what’s inside? What if they want to bait us into shooting it down?

Annie
Annie
Feb 6, 2023 6:53 PM

Come on if you’re government are not at war what and who do you think they are spying on?They are watching us because they want a world government and you better step in line or it’s the death squad for you and its coming fast look around you they are in lockstep now.You better have a big tractor to block the road because they are coming for all of us.

Thom
Thom
Feb 6, 2023 6:32 PM

The Chinese probably knew what they were doing – put the wind up to the US authorities while cause amusement to everyone else.

Thom 9
Thom 9
Feb 6, 2023 5:34 PM

The Chinese weather balloon is an “all dressed” “nothing burger”.
And it’s made with 100% American propaganda.
No it doesn’t come with fries…

Ananda
Ananda
Feb 6, 2023 6:40 PM
Reply to  Thom 9

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nmism
nmism
Feb 7, 2023 4:38 PM
Reply to  Ananda

Upvoters upvoting a meme directed directly at the upvoters. Ananda thinks its special. Ananda isn’t a pathetic bleeding heart liberal with just a smattering of red pill like everyone else here. Ananda’s in its basement trolling the old folks.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Feb 6, 2023 4:54 PM

The media is consciously (or unconsciously) channeling the Japanese FuGo balloon bombs of WW2. The Japanese tried to use these to cause problems on the West Coast, starting wildfires and so on, The Dastardly Chinese are obviously up to the same thing because they’re incapable of building and using surveillance satellites without Western Technology, something we’ve denied them so they’re turning to improvised measures in desperation. Meanwhile back in the real world if the balloon was spying on anything then it was either the ionosphere or upper atmosphere winds. These are incnveniently placed too high to be studied by aircraft and too low to be studied by satellites. They’re important because they affect things like radio propagation and the weather. They’re not that good for classical spying because they’re unpredictable — our media assures us that they’re steerable but they’re not — judging by its speed and track it was… Read more »

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Feb 7, 2023 3:16 AM
Reply to  Martin Usher

The Chinese are not stupid. They invented Chinese water torture, didnt they ! That’s what gave the Americans the idea of water-boarding.

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 8, 2023 7:21 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

” our media assures us that they’re steerable but they’re not ”

Hi Martin: which media would that be ? Link me …

I liked the rest of your comment, but this one detail I found obtuse and unworthy of you,
For two reasons. So, let us examine your thoughts.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Feb 6, 2023 4:04 PM

Endless distractions for the masses. Including the truthers..
The distractions prevent you from entering the next phase which is a creative one. If you’re constantly analysing and discussing info and events, you’re still within their program. Always one step behind, reacting.
A new expression of creativity in something good interrupts their flow, slows their momentum and upsets their balance.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Feb 7, 2023 2:10 AM
Reply to  ZenPriest

True

We should still be tracking clot shot injuries and deaths. People are still dropping dead. We have stopped discussing birth rates, abortion and the like. Are mandates still in place ? When and how are Castreau and Arsedern and all the other mass murderers going to be brought to justice ?

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Feb 7, 2023 10:24 AM

Do not ask for worldly justice in a fallen world.
Go to a hospital and ask for natural remedies. See how far you get.
There is already justice. God saves those believe in Him. A worse fate awaits the likes of the mentioned.

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 6, 2023 3:40 PM

At worst, an excellent prank from the Chinese New Year celebrations, namely… Kong He Fatboy Joy 😂 @provoking US military, WesternMSM & Preston RABL ! Or did Rabl elevate ballooning propaganda with Richard Li ? ? ? Glad to see some form of level headed response here@OffG, but: When will anybody here@OffG, especially Iain Davis, get their Heads stuck into the Fairy Tale narratives and rhythmic riddles of Preston Rabl’s Agency ? N’ gage Rabl’s ‘Hook, line & sinker’ of mindful serious discussions & negotiations: for example, George Soros’ declarations@Hoover institute one year ago…? Who is discussing this ? @Iain: Should you happen to read this comment, [as I suspected], post Valdai & Patrushev oversight, You & OffG have not yet truly connected the dots and pertinent 👉 pointers In Rabl’s narratives, [incorporating ‘Limited Hangouts’] :- you got bogged down in muddy 🤽‍♂️ waters & forgot Michal Kosinski’s O.C.E.A.N.s of… Read more »

Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart Gwilym
Feb 6, 2023 7:26 PM
Reply to  Balkydj

It would help if you’d explain whatTF you’re talking about, balky.

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 6, 2023 9:17 PM

It might make more sense if you spoke it over a reggae rap beat.

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 7, 2023 2:04 AM
Reply to  George Mc

FukU George, seriously, you know nothing about Preston Rabl.

Why ?

Go figure !

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 7, 2023 2:28 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Incidentally George, why did you not direct your comment, regarding me, directly ?

I know why !

You Scottish coward !

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 7, 2023 6:37 AM
Reply to  Balkydj

I just saw the “dj” in your name. Now it makes sense!

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 7, 2023 11:41 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Dj Rabl. Rapper extraordinaire… apologies George.
Now I have your attention to detail engaged, fully…

Have you ever heard of Scott Stearn Associates ?

You certainly should have.
Owned by whom ? Preston Rabl’s WPP
If you wish to truly comprehend, I shall be compiling
A more comprehensive mix for Rhisiart, later on today.
But, long story short, all PR Agencies were acquired by
WPP. = The Monopoly of Preston Rabl,
Feeding News Agencies ,
Rapping for W.H.O.
Feel the groove ?

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 8, 2023 9:09 AM
Reply to  George Mc

You always were a bit slow on the uptake, George: so, I thought I would make it real simple and easy for you to put 2 + 2 together…

Now, ffs please tell me that you begin to understand how the media world operates, who feeds it, and HOW the whole plandemic was so easy to orchestrate with just four CEOs and Preston Rabl conducting …

I responded to Rhisiart yesterday, including a Scott Stern mention of associations that affect your daily limited thought processes. I recommend you read my words to Rhisiart and start thinking outside of your box. I have but one question for you and a simple Yes or No will do. Do you believe that Sonic Resonance could assist in the Geo-engineering of the Weather ?

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 7, 2023 2:47 AM

Rhisiart, please me first by utilising your ever present initiative & intellect !

Just [I hate to say] Google or Wikipedia Preston Rabl and use your imagination !
Preston Rabl was born when, exactly ? Then endeavour to research him further !

If I have to explain further and go into more complex realities, of YOUR daily news diet,
Do let me know. I know exactly what I have to say, but, for a long time I figured you &
OFFG to be Smarter . . . Connect the DOTS , FFS !

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 7, 2023 3:53 PM

Rhisiart: Preston Rabl funded Martin Sorrell’s Acquisitions strategy, & progressively began monopolising all PR Marketing Agencies , representing in some form, every single art of Corporation, without exception, regardless of the nature of their Business or Concept, from B.P. to the W.H.O. & Government interests, the biggest Father Firm of all formulations for any public image is . . . WPP. Rabl’s Monopoly over any concept, from Wars on Terror Or Drugs is in your face, Daily, more than you could have ever imagined: be that B.P.’s 1999 “Carbon Footprint ” designs from Ogilvy & Mather, or the illicit actions of the B.C.C.I. or making Saddam Hussein look bad, with staged lies and crocodile tears over incubated babies & Q8/Kuwait, onto governmental policy, WPP orchestrates it… I quote: “WPP GOVERNMENT & PUBLIC SECTOR PRACTICE The Government & Public Sector Practice advises policymakers and public sector communication leaders on strategy, innovation,… Read more »

covidiot
covidiot
Feb 7, 2023 11:22 PM

“Balkydj” is a CIA disinfo operative. Their spew is not intended to make sense, but to derail productive discussion.

Does it make more sense now?

Balkydj
Balkydj
Feb 8, 2023 9:50 AM
Reply to  covidiot

Covidiot – milosevic the boss of one of the teams of trolls Operational within these columns btl, has to move his lazy arse and respond about me INDIRECTLY, like GeorgeMc. Why ? Are you afraid of me, milo ? ✌ Or is it … Because covidiot-milo cannot find staff anymore, with enough intelligence & the immoral stamina to perform in such a disgusting immoral manner, daily, like you. Joy of joys… 😂 The Flak-attack begins again, when flying directly over the target. Good job I understand the powers of Magneto-Electronic fields, the laws of attraction and how to repel, better than you. Also, I understand way better than you and George COMBINED, how the media world functions & Operates and precisely who conducts the ORCHESTRA, namely Preston Rabl. You really should stop working for these people, milo ! Now, back to Geo-engineering & HAARP, Covidiot-milo: for more than half a… Read more »

wisenox
wisenox
Feb 6, 2023 3:28 PM

whether Trump would have handled it better, Well, Trump-trap didn’t bother telling the citizens what is in the vaccine patents, so he may just know what the “spy satellite” is. My freedom-of-speech opinion is that the balloon is actually part of the wifi “grid” that will be used to enslave the people, and that it simply lost a little air. China is scripted to win the next war, and they have to get those fighting age males, so maybe they’re simply using the failed grid balloon as a door to start getting the sheep worked up over China. China would be happy to oblige, because its their scripted role to play; goes in line with the whole order and chaos fake opposition junk from the covenant. All the sheep need is a fake hero to fall for, and the script can go on. Just need to drive up military enlistment… Read more »

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Feb 6, 2023 3:53 PM
Reply to  wisenox

If you complain about the control matrix but use a smartphone (the nexus of the control matrix) then I’m afraid you’re a hypocrite acquiescing in your own surveillance and oppression. Which, unfortunately, is true for an awful lot of people who really ought to know better. The more of it you go along with, the harder it is for anybody to escape.

wisenox
wisenox
Feb 6, 2023 8:27 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

How am I a hypocrite? Because I think that I should be able to install privacy software of my own?
Or, simply because I use a smartphone? If I use a smartphone, then I should accept that it records me without my knowledge? Seriously?

I think that its better for people to openly discuss privacy invasion, so that our privacy can be maintained.
I think that people should be aware that the device they use takes screenshots every 60 seconds.
I also feel that I should be able to code my own screenshot manager, as well as clipboard and downloading services, but I can’t because the APIs have been blocked. Of course, its only blocked for the people. Select entities are granted priveleged permissions and can do as they please.
Screw fairness and transparency, let’s go with if you use a smartphone, you’re a hypocrite.
Sounds stupid to me.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Feb 7, 2023 12:00 PM
Reply to  wisenox

‘Should’? So now you are making demands of companies who are selling you a product?
No, you are simply free to buy/use or not to buy/use. They have no obligation to you.
It’s not a stupid argument at all. It’s one of personal responsibility. One that says, in order to do right, I may need to go without. And that to preserve freedom, one must sacrifice.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Feb 7, 2023 2:16 AM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

People are not allowed to exist without a smartass phone. They send you codes when you transfer funds and phone banks for information or support.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Feb 6, 2023 9:10 PM
Reply to  wisenox

My phone has a magnet-based cover. Let it take screen shots of that!
Also I have for years put a flower sticker over the camera pin hole that faces me when I use my phone. “They” can stick it up their ….

NickM
NickM
Feb 6, 2023 3:16 PM

A poetical post in the (alas! soon to close) Saker Vineyard:

from The Lost Caledonian on February 06, 2023  · at 8:30 am EST/EDT

“The Message floated high and harmless.
Accused of bringing war and hate.
Never mind it’s path was aimless
Silent peaceful met its fate.
Final chance for friendship shattered
By the deep unthinking State”

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 7, 2023 1:26 AM
Reply to  NickM

Saker’s shutting his site down? Really? Why?

antitermite
antitermite
Feb 7, 2023 3:59 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

maybe he’s vax-injured?

Don’t worry, the Vineyard will be spiritually revived, by one or more of the regulars, who may or may not actually be some agency
(this I suspect follows the MoA playbook)

banana
banana
Feb 6, 2023 2:47 PM

I think its a how “insanely incompetent” and “compromised” the current “administration” is message, with a dash of anti-Chinese rhetoric

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Feb 6, 2023 2:20 PM

The real news of the last couple of months was the release of several interviews in the alternative media with expert USA pharmaceutical regulatory consultant Sasha Latypova proving that the entire fake vaccine rollout was totally under the control of the US Department of Defense in which the DoD contracts named the fake vaccines only as “counter measures,” never a pharmaceutical or medical treatment, and which waived all established FDA regulations. The DoD contracts where structured identically as their contracts for weapons purchases. The FDA, CDC, and NIH were all puppet front organizations without any real authority or control. Same for Big Pharma including Pfizer and Moderna. These corporations were simply made an offer they couldn’t refuse for huge profits and total immunity from civil or criminal prosecution in exchange for following DoD directives to the letter. The “legal” right to do this was built into omnibus legislation beginning with… Read more »

Monti
Monti
Feb 6, 2023 4:57 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Yes…why this information is not the most talked about topic in the alternative media right now escapes me.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Feb 6, 2023 5:07 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

All quite true. The Plandemic was a Department of Defense operation right from first glimmer.

Did National Security Imperatives Compromise COVID-19 Vaccine Safety?
JANUARY 5, 2023
Did National Security Imperatives Compromise COVID-19 Vaccine Safety? ⋆ Brownstone Institute

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Feb 6, 2023 2:00 PM

Agree with the editors of off-G 100%.
A spy satellite? Absurd for all the obvious reasons.
A vehicle to spread lethal viruses? Even if said viruses did exist, how about the tens of thousands of maritime containers coming in from China?
A diversion from suddenly and unexpectedly medical emergencies? Undoubtedly.
A national IQ test? Came in at room temperature. In Europe, after the thermostats were lowered.
Cheering on the F-22’s first impressive combat kill against an impressive adversary?

mik
mik
Feb 6, 2023 12:34 PM

They’ve been able to lock-down the world over an illness that was a minor nuisance for a huge majority, therefore they can create “a real life” story out of nothing.

Last year Chinese launched to orbit more stuff than anybody. They have tons of satellites with sensors for various wavelengths of light. They have hires synthetic aperture radars that can see through clouds. They have satellites for monitoring wireless communications. They have absolutely no need for a balloon mounted spy.

“….what this means for Taiwan or Ukraine or Cuba”

In some sense this is purring of kerosene on anxiety-fire. Bastards always want more anxiety. And soon there is more to come.

For the record, I predict Russian winter offensive to start in next three weeks, except if the weather change. The war will become even nastier. The balloon is just an appetizer for nato propaganda believers’ anxiety.

mik
mik
Feb 6, 2023 1:33 PM
Reply to  mik
Mr Y
Mr Y
Feb 6, 2023 12:32 PM

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Feb 6, 2023 12:21 PM

If you don’t watch MSM or read MSM, you simply never get affected by this trash because you are supremely unaware of it.

I learned 33 years ago that you could spend 4 months virtually cut off from the media and it did you absolutely no harm whatsoever – you could be happy, healthy and effective without ever once reading a newspaper, watching TV news etc.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Feb 6, 2023 3:58 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

It doesn’t just do you no harm, it’s a very positive move to reject the MSM in its entirety.

Fran Crowe
Fran Crowe
Feb 6, 2023 4:49 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Couldn’t agree more…..well said. A lot of people’s problems emanate from the cess pool of popular media. Stop watching, reading and paying attention to the scumbags and life does become a lot less stressful.

May Hem
May Hem
Feb 6, 2023 9:24 PM
Reply to  Fran Crowe

Agreed. Why waste hot air on a balloon filled with hot air.

STJOHNOFGRAFTON
STJOHNOFGRAFTON
Feb 7, 2023 12:07 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Thank you Rhys. It’s what critical thinkers need. That old movie “Blast From The Past” is good for a laugh and shows that being cut off from the world and its MSM for many years is a great blessing.

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Feb 7, 2023 3:31 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Too true ! It also frees your time to spend it , hours daily, reading – and commenting on – sites like Offguardian. A win-win something !

Paul Prichard
Paul Prichard
Feb 6, 2023 11:50 AM

Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2023-02-04. #mRNA gene therapy – Moderna et al admitted it. Masks Do Nothing Stop CV & They Knew It All Along (blog, gab, tweet).

Ananda
Ananda
Feb 6, 2023 11:38 AM

Proving again how the new-age and political is full aligned.

Im sure woke alt right Joseph p Farrell will be pimping this ‘UFO Roswell could be’ to his devotee’s and how team intergalactic Team Trump is sending us coded messages.

This balloon thing isnt necessarily about the chicom believers, this also feeds that massive market of ancient aliens Tv mysteries crowd.

Not forgetting this lot.

The Q-movement and the Andromedan Council | Galactic Anthropology

https://galacticanthropology.org/2021/11/21/the-q-movement-and-the-andromedan-council/

L B
L B
Feb 6, 2023 11:31 AM

Pretty funny:

America Is Once More Safe for Democracy After ‘Terrorist’ Balloon Shot Down! – https://www.garydbarnett.com/america-is-once-more-safe-for-democracy-after-terrorist-balloon-shot-down/

Fran Crowe
Fran Crowe
Feb 6, 2023 4:50 PM
Reply to  L B

America and democracy don’t sit well in the same sentence

Martha
Martha
Feb 6, 2023 9:06 PM
Reply to  L B

That was as funny as the Saturday Night Live cold open skit about the stupid balloon. Thanks for the laugh.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Feb 6, 2023 11:25 AM

99 ChiCom balloons in the air,
99 ChiCom balloons,
Shoot one down,
Right to the ground,
98 ChiCom balloons in the air.

98 ChiCom balloons in the air,
98 ChiCom balloons,
Shoot one down,
Right to the ground,
97 ChiCom balloons in the air.

97 ChiCom balloons in the air,
97 ChiCom balloons,
Shoot one down,
Right to the ground,
96 ChiCom balloons in the air…

…- Etc., etc., etc.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Feb 6, 2023 10:16 AM

Imagine being a politician eager to keep your job.

Can you do anything about climate change?
No.
Have you got a substitute for cheap fossil fuels?
No.
Can you make infinite growth on a finite planet work?
No.
Can you shout “deadly virus” and then follow up with all sorts of efforts, diverting peoples focus away from the real problems?
Yes.

Grafter
Grafter
Feb 6, 2023 3:20 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

Don’t forget the demonise Russia and Ukraine bit.

Tike
Tike
Feb 6, 2023 10:09 AM

I knew it. The Prisoner was predictive programming — now confirmed! Balloon meet Patrick McGoohan (who represents humanity). Only half joking. https://search.brave.com/images?q=the%20prisoner%20patrick%20mcgoohan%20white%20balloon&source=web

Marilyn Shepherd
Marilyn Shepherd
Feb 6, 2023 9:43 AM

Well the ABC in Australia are cheering for the USA and this stupidity and still maundering that people are dying from covid and no one cares.

May Hem
May Hem
Feb 6, 2023 9:34 PM

Australia is currently ramping up for a racism balloon with the UN covertly supporting growing militant indigenous groups.

This white balloon is clearly part of a racist agenda!

Nothing like a good dose of emotional blackmail (whitemale?) to confuse and divide the people. How about a big black balloon boondoggle for further distraction/confusion/division?

Balloons are usually full of hot air (like me)!

niko
niko
Feb 6, 2023 9:25 AM

Globophobia. Fear porn’s packing more hot air than ever.

https://ew.com/movies/2017/08/26/it-movie-reactions-stephen-king/

NickM
NickM
Feb 6, 2023 7:39 AM

Alexander Mercouris has more informative thoughts on the this and other stratospheric overflights in living memory. He admits it was a minor incident but not exactly a nothingburger — it was a diplomatic message to discourage an unwelcome guest without actually issuing a rude refusal.

https://rumble.com/v28g5yu-uk-mod-bakhmut-isolated-eu-struggles-to-find-tanks-russia-massively-increas.html

George Mc
George Mc
Feb 6, 2023 7:39 AM

How about the balloon as carrier of the new(est) covid strain? That should be enough to guarantee another couple of years of pandemic porn.

Edwige
Edwige
Feb 6, 2023 12:36 PM
Reply to  George Mc

More plausible than a bat or a door handle, that’s for sure!

May Hem
May Hem
Feb 6, 2023 9:36 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Great idea George. And they will be able to make a few hollywood movies out of it too. You should be on their payroll.

MolecCodicies
MolecCodicies
Feb 6, 2023 7:27 AM

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Michael Swain
Michael Swain
Feb 6, 2023 7:48 AM
Reply to  MolecCodicies

Yeah. The balloon never stood a chance.