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OffG’s Quick Take: The Pentagon “leaks”

The news the last few days or so has been about the “leaked” Pentagon documents concerning the “special military operation” in Ukraine, and the apparent arrest of the young man responsible.

As our editor tweeted, this is another one of those “leaks” that gets inexplicably and extensively hyped in the mainstream media.

The leaked documents were so covert, and their contents so damaging that they were covered in detail on the frontpage of the BBC and were the subject of explainer videos from Sky News:

The arrest of the young man supposedly responsible was such a closely guarded state secret it was headline news all over the world…

…there were multiple videos released of his arrest, and he was arraigned in public, rather than shipped off to gitmo with a black bag on his head.

We’ll be posting our more detailed thoughts on Monday…

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Vagabard
Vagabard
Apr 17, 2023 5:20 PM

Newsweek runs through 20 of the leaked documents, just in case there were any portions that people don’t fully understand.

Just what you would expect with a leak of highly classified info:

https://www.newsweek.com/2023/05/05/read-leaked-secret-intelligence-documents-ukraine-vladimir-putin-1794656.html

rik myers
rik myers
Apr 17, 2023 8:47 AM
CK_
CK_
Apr 16, 2023 9:28 PM

My guess is this is a Limited Hangout and probably staged. The intent may be to justify using US and NATO troops in Ukraine.

Maria Johnson
Maria Johnson
Apr 16, 2023 5:51 PM

The Yanks believe that they landed on the moon and Afghan goat herders flew the planes 9/11 And that thy invented the atomic bomb – not the Nazi war criminals they “rescued by a paperclip” from the hangman’s noose before the Nuremberg trials … .

The vast majority of Americans either don´t care – or are too thick to understand.
Leave them alone and perhaps then they leave the world alone ….

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Apr 16, 2023 11:42 PM
Reply to  Maria Johnson

The atom bomb was very much a Zionist project. Hollyweird is making a big budget movie glamourising Oppenheimer who oversaw the development of the bomb.

StStephen
StStephen
Apr 17, 2023 9:14 AM

That’s just silly.

Cathy
Cathy
Apr 17, 2023 12:47 AM
Reply to  Maria Johnson

There are a lot of Americans who care. We are not the majority, in that you are correct. Our leaders will never leave the world alone until we ALL stand up as one and shout no more! Many of us do see and care very much. We just don’t have any say in it. And what’s more, many of us lost fathers and brothers and sons to these wars. My own dad one of them.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Apr 17, 2023 1:17 AM
Reply to  Maria Johnson

Ditto for most Australians. It’s the fluoride in the water over here, amongst other things.

StStephen
StStephen
Apr 17, 2023 9:27 AM
Reply to  Maria Johnson

We’ll, factually speaking and not just rhetorically, the supposed 9/11 amateur pilots were educated Saudis. And the Nazis we’re working on, but did not quite succeed, in developing atomic bombs before the US did. And, yes, most Americans have no idea about those things or many others. But then, I’m not sure you do, either. As for walking on the moon…

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Apr 17, 2023 12:46 PM
Reply to  Maria Johnson

The vast majority of Americans DO leave the world alone – they don’t even have a passport.

The problem is that the US warmongers who are in power can’t be reined in by the vast majority of Americans. Yet….

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Apr 17, 2023 2:11 PM
Reply to  Maria Johnson

Generalize much? Isn’t that like saying, Brits believe in Kings and Queens and:Princes and Princesses? And being led around by the nose by an upstart country?

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Apr 17, 2023 4:03 PM

Not to mention colonizing most of the world for hundreds of years. But it’s only the Americans who are the problem….

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Apr 17, 2023 7:19 PM
Reply to  Lizzyh7

I can understand the animosity, I lived in Germany (West) for five years. But, ya, plenty of “blame” to go around. People are people wherever you go.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Apr 19, 2023 2:41 AM

East to Yankies no wonder your fucked up. You ain’t West till you bang into the Plymouth Rock ya dummy. The East Coast ya plonker……
Our West is Your East of Europe you Commie Gobshite. ☎️

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Apr 16, 2023 5:33 PM

Leonard Cohen – Everybody knows [Verse 2]

Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died
Everybody talking to their pockets
Everybody wants a box of chocolates
And a long-stem rose
Everybody knows…

Freecus
Freecus
Apr 16, 2023 1:22 PM

The Pentagon leaks and the Wuhan leaks have much in common, they are both military intelligence run psychological operations that, by now will have access to updated SWS software to analyze & steer the global population in real time.

Literally nobody
Literally nobody
Apr 16, 2023 11:26 AM

Off guardian, on point

Sara
Sara
Apr 16, 2023 11:12 AM

I think there are several different layers to this story. Firstly you need to distinguish between the original 40-50 slides in circulation and the later set of “300” that nobody has seen. The 21 year airman guy is not even worth talking about. -I’m inclined to believe that the very first batch of approx 40-50 images was a real UNPLANNED leak by someone high up on the food chain and targeted at the US domestic audience to show that things are not as rosy as officially painted. I think the leaks took place in a very professional way sometime in mid March and we will never know who or how they did it. There was NOTHING new in those leaks, they just confirmed what independent analysts have been saying for months. Not all of the info in the “intelligence” was “intelligent” or factually correct. -By late March, these slides were… Read more »

Sara
Sara
Apr 16, 2023 11:30 AM
Reply to  Sara

Not to forget that in the first week of April, the official version was that the leaks had been somehow done by “Russia”. This is because the first to pay attention to the documents were the many dozens of barely known independent Russian and pro Russian analysts who follow the military battles in detail on the map, analyzing each battle at the unit level. Not even the more famous analysts like Johnson, Schaffer, MacGregor or Ritter seemed to have been aware of these 50 slides before the media itself brought more visibility to them. These guys mostly focus on bird’s eye view stuff. By the time the NATO spooks became aware of the leak these 50 slides were all over the place. It was impossible to scrub them. . https://www.reuters.com/world/us/russia-likely-behind-us-military-document-leak-us-officials-say-2023-04-07/ So in just seven days we’ve gone from “Russia” behind leak (just as Russia blew up it’s pipeline) to ….a… Read more »

StStephen
StStephen
Apr 17, 2023 9:13 AM
Reply to  Sara

Bravo!

StStephen
StStephen
Apr 17, 2023 9:48 AM
Reply to  StStephen

Best and most plausible rundown we’re likely to see. Did you leak the 40-50 yourself?

Vagabard
Vagabard
Apr 16, 2023 8:27 AM

The military loved Discord for Gen Z recruiting. Then the leaks began.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/04/15/discord-military-recruitment-pentagon-document-leaks/

solemn
solemn
Apr 16, 2023 8:22 AM

“leaks”


Its another variant of Q drops = Defecation .
The innuendos they constantly use and still people cant see it.

Leaks ‘we wee’ urine= taking he piss (Michael = lying)= drops = Defecation= shit as in bullshit.

Due to the fact, they started this at the very beginning and you choose to ignore them, ‘they’, Under there LAW exemplify themselves as you was informed from the very start what they was doing and if, you CHOOSE to go along with it. YOU’VE consented.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Apr 16, 2023 3:24 AM

Why don’t we all just try and move forward, from this brainwashing shit…We cannot remove these psychos from power..so just ignore them and carry on as normal as best you can. Most people are nice, reasonable and normal…you can have a chat with them about almost anything – just go easy on anything covid, jabs related the only thing where we are almost all agreed on..regardless of whether we are rich or poor, is our resistance to the current Mayor of London and his proposed £12.50 a day ULEZ charge to drive a car or a van. The vast majority of us – Pensioners like me, or my kid running a small business, just cannot afford it. What the Mayor of London is proposing is a total affront to Democracy. It is in fact a massive attack on all but the very richest, who can actually afford to buy a… Read more »

Shola
Shola
Apr 16, 2023 12:47 PM
Reply to  tonyopmoc

Ah Tony! I do appreciate your effort, disingenuous or not, to regularly plead with people to just turn away from it all and focus on the little things. It’s lovely for you, if genuine, to believe the best way to deal with corruption, with evil, is to just pretend it isn’t there and let be what will be. I suppose the only flaw in your advice is the obvious ease with which bad actors will get away with bad things while nobody cares to even look. It’s only dead people though, it’s only war and famine and oppressed families. Nothing to see here, Tony. So while the parasites continue to rape, dismember and depose at will and while freedoms are continually eroded, give the kids a hug and the wife a kiss and tell them none of that really matters. Because, you know, it’s happening over there somewhere. Ignorance is… Read more »

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Apr 16, 2023 2:56 AM

There’s reports about some disarrary among Ukraine’s top military men, and disarray in the Ukraine army. Reports of shortages of bullets, rockets, tanks; of most of those fighting the Russians being in the 45-50 age group, And so on.
Now “leaks” are supplied which confirm how bad things are.
Q: Why do They want us to know these things ?

Vagabard
Vagabard
Apr 16, 2023 8:42 AM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

An antiwar perspective, I’d say, since the documents show weaknesses on both Ukrainian and Russian sides.

For example, one document shows Russia’s slow East-West advance of only 2.7km per month. And concludes that it would take more than 11 months to reach Kramatorsk from Bakhmut

Which imho fits with the notion that Teixeira never intended the documents to become public. Though others in his Discord groups may have had other motives

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Apr 16, 2023 2:54 AM

This isn’t conspiracy, its hubris. Hubris that assumes that we have the right — no, duty — to manipulate the world to our taste and woe betide anyone who begs to differ. Hubris that compiles our nefarious activities into a regular report for wide circulation. Hubris that couldn’t conceive that some junior part time nobody would borrow the information to settle a gaming dispute.

Mr. Telexira is going to cop it Big Time. But, realistically, the fault is structural all the way up and down the system, from the presumption that we have the right to decide the fate of nations to the idiots who designed the system for classifying and managing documents, a system that quite obviously doesn’t work at all.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Apr 16, 2023 2:42 AM

This won’t create a real world ripple on the Web. The Guardsman far too young for one thing.

ThinkTwice
ThinkTwice
Apr 16, 2023 1:44 AM

Video: Tucker Carlson Exposes How Establishment Media Is Desperate To Help Cover Up Info From Intel Leaks
https://summit.news/2023/04/14/video-carlson-exposes-how-media-wants-to-help-cover-up-information-from-intel-leak/

solemn
solemn
Apr 16, 2023 8:25 AM
Reply to  ThinkTwice

Double speak at its finest….

Tucker Carlson Exposes How Establishment Media Is Desperate To Help Cover Up Info From Intel Leaks

 😂 

hotrod31
hotrod31
Apr 16, 2023 1:17 AM

As some wag suggested: If governments are allowed to break the law in times of ’emergencies’ … The governments will keep creating ’emergencies’ so that they can break the law.
… works ALL the time.
For all the US toadies it should have become quite clear that … The once mighty US appears to be a genuine basket-case and the PTB keep getting better-and-better at making it painfully obvious.
It is past time that the, self-appointed ‘exceptional’ spivs were flushed down the sewer of history. Good e’ffing riddance.
Also, for all the pathetic ‘Trump-supporters’ … if Biden and/or Trump are the best choices available for POTUS … oh boy, you have your heads buried deeper up your clackers than you might realise. The DS loves them both because their prize fcuken Richard Heads, so manipulable … they make Boris Johnston appear to be an accomplished statesman.

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 16, 2023 2:18 AM
Reply to  hotrod31

They’re prize fcuken RichardHeads”
Thank you.

hotrod31
hotrod31
Apr 16, 2023 7:42 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Quite. Danke …

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 16, 2023 12:14 PM
Reply to  hotrod31

One tries…

solemn
solemn
Apr 16, 2023 8:47 AM
Reply to  hotrod31

governments are allowed to break the law in times of ’emergencies’ …

They have never ever needed a ’emergencie’ to do what they do.

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Apr 15, 2023 11:42 PM

To be honest, I took almost no interest in this..just more of the same, except I read on some blog, that there was a video interview of this young man, possibly computer games related, that he was extremly bright, intelligent, and compus mentis, for such a young age, and totally capable of presenting himself in a high level discussion extremely eloquently. So I tried to find this video interview, if it actually exists, and found absolutey nothing, even briefly using a vpn pretending I lived in the USA The contents of whatever if anything this kid released – a month or so ago, on some gamer blog, would be no surprise to absolutely anyone. However, I would just like to point out, that highly intelligent young men, especially given a job as an IT UNIX? administrator, may well have the skills to read the contents of absolutely anything in the… Read more »

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Apr 15, 2023 10:48 PM

Leaks indeed ! I recall 1971 when the Pentagon Papers were stolen then leaked and published bringing a lot of heat on the Pentagon generals and CIA , to Nixon’s delight . In !972 they got even when the “leaked” Watergate fiasco and making nice with China , forced Nixon from office , probably under threat of assassination. The last POTUS to attempt to act independently ?

Robin
Robin
Apr 16, 2023 6:07 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

There’s a lot of buzz lately by notable commentators and parroted by their fans that the Pentagon Papers were leaked, and the NYT just ‘wrote about them’ but didn’t publish.
As I also remember it, and the site below summarises, the PP were leaked to NYT reporters, held for a few months, then after the first 3 articles were published in the NYT. The USG sued the NYT to stop publication, the case went to the Supreme Court, and the Government lost.
https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/505/new-york-times-co-v-united-states

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Apr 15, 2023 10:14 PM

The Question being asked is “Who is the Target Audience ?
— Is its aim to get politicians to legislate for even greater controls of the internet ?
— Is it to wake-up those who fell for the claims that Ukraine is winning ?
— Is it mis-direction ahead of the “Ukrainian Spring Counter-Offensive” ?
Larry Johnson (ex-CIA) and others point out that only some one very high up
would have access to ALL the ‘documents’ – the 21 year old is distraction.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Apr 15, 2023 10:51 PM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Agree somewhat , however, a spring Ukrainian counter offensive would only be possible in cyberspace . In reality Ukraine is finished .

philipat
philipat
Apr 16, 2023 1:52 AM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Yes. The basic issue here is that if a 21-YO National Guardsman had open access to all this material, especially TS/NOFORN, then the US has far bigger problems than a few leaked documents, the content of which anyone awake already understood anyway

How to spell “patsy” or is that “pasty’ in the UK?

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Apr 15, 2023 9:53 PM

I’m just waiting for the media to ‘report’ that this 21 year-old airman was a Q-Anon incel who voted for Trump and thought the election was fraudulent. That’ll make it perfect!  😂 

j d
j d
Apr 15, 2023 8:05 PM

“Video: The Controversial Leaked Documents, What’s the Truth? Judge Napolitano with Former CIA Officer Larry Johnson”: https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-leaked-docs-whats-the-truth-judge-andrew-napolitano-with-larry-johnson/5815896

eman
eman
Apr 15, 2023 7:57 PM

what i like about the so-called leak: the PTB have admitted to the world that they insist on governments keeping secrets and the governments repeatedly bow to the PTB by violating the first amendment; which says
“Congress shall make no laws ..abridging the freedom of speech or of the press, ”
NO ONE RESPECTS A GOVERNMENT THAT KEEPS SECRETS!

moneycircus
moneycircus
Apr 15, 2023 7:52 PM

Teixeira, the supposed mastermind leaker, was exposed by an outfit called Bellingcat.

Bellingcat, with its Amsterdam red light dodgy credibility (where it’s relocated)…. still got repeated by The Guardian on the same day.

Its founder, H’Elliot “H’underpants” Higgins of BrownMoses/Bellingcat, is a personage coopted/ corrupted by the NATO/nose-wiping deep state. He began his career as an underpants accountant.

But if you want to get into the deep state disinformation/ Fakt Cheka industry… H’Elliot is our telebubby model.

Willem
Willem
Apr 15, 2023 6:59 PM

Completely missed these so called leaks.

Did I miss something?

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 15, 2023 7:26 PM
Reply to  Willem

No.

EarlofSuave
EarlofSuave
Apr 15, 2023 9:55 PM
Reply to  Willem

A quick summary:

Curtains go up. A small car comes out. The door opens. Clown after clown comes out….

Jen
Jen
Apr 15, 2023 10:47 PM
Reply to  EarlofSuave

An even faster summary:

“Look over here! Don’t look over there!”

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 16, 2023 2:20 AM
Reply to  Willem

Meh…
Apocalypses come and go…

solemn
solemn
Apr 16, 2023 8:48 AM
Reply to  Willem

Leaks = Golden shower…

Victor G.
Victor G.
Apr 15, 2023 6:49 PM

The funny thing is that the US of As and their WEF collaborators think the world gives a rat’s ass about anything they say or do …
After murdering hundreds of millions of humans in every corner what more do they think the world fears?
Bye-bye US of As. It’s been miserable knowing you.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Apr 15, 2023 6:06 PM

Heck, the RAND Corporation and many other so called think tanks, etc., publish exactly what the U.S. and zionist Israel are going to do right up front. This kind of thing happens, I had a boatmate on the sub I served on during the Vietnam war hauled off for posting details of our whereabouts (he was a sonarman). Never saw him again but it of course was not national news. Seems like just something for the media to run with to help support the overall war propaganda effort.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Apr 16, 2023 2:14 AM

Eugene Dinkin was locked up and psychiatrically abused for leaking the JFK murder plot a month in advance accurately identifying the state in which it was planned to occur. Nobody knows who he was or what he did (he died in 2012 I think).

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Apr 15, 2023 5:42 PM

So they could identify this 21 year old reservist, that somehow gained access to top secret materials across multiple branches, and yet we still haven’t seen the video footage of the shooter in Las Vegas, or the video of Epstein’s cell that Barr claims to have seen.

That anyone still trusts any government, can only be proof that many “people” are not human anymore.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Apr 15, 2023 5:41 PM

…- Imagine, if you will, a fishy smell… – A miasma of Cod, Roe, Pollock, Mackerel, Week-Old Kippers stashed behind a radiator, Bream, Trout, Tench, Balao and Guppy mixed with noxious inky perfumes of Squid, Octopus, Kraken and Leviathan… – Do you see where I’m going?…

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Apr 15, 2023 5:44 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

…- Yeah, *That* sorta stench… – Mm-Hmmn…

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Apr 15, 2023 10:39 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Like a dustbin larder?

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Apr 15, 2023 5:35 PM

Jack Teixeira, is what is known in the trade known as *A Patsy*… – *Poor Schlub*:…

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/04/the-arrest-of-a-21-year-old-national-guard-member-for-leaking-classified-docs-leads-to-more-questions-than-answers

…- *Dig Deeper*, peeps…

moneycircus
moneycircus
Apr 15, 2023 5:37 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

The speed with which he was identified is the biggest flag.

Readied in advance. Like that chap who was at the Coke machine on 22/11/63

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Apr 15, 2023 5:58 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

…- Fuck me, money’… – The whole entire corporate media formed like voltron to mount a posse on his ass… (- You believe they’re *Actually* that competent?…)

…- The real question, as ever, is ‘Who Gains’… – Originally, up until the second drop I’d’ve said this was just Ukie/US/NATO Pontius Pilate wash-hands narrative-pivot management shit, but the second drop’s acknowledgement of US/UK spec ops on the ground is… *Interesting*, to say the least, as in potentially *This* kinda interesting:…

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Apr 15, 2023 6:02 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

*Global Thermonuclear Armageddon Trigger Warnings* for the faint of heart… 😉

moneycircus
moneycircus
Apr 15, 2023 7:12 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

The thing is most media people ( I condemn my own kind – I give a pass to people not paid to propagandise ) are concerned with their own image.

What if I am seen to concede that 11/63, 9/11 or, 7/7 was a deep state murder… how would my reputation ever survive.

They think of themselves not the truth.

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Apr 15, 2023 7:52 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

…- Yeah, but money’… – Does any of that *Really* matter whilst you’re being immediately reduced to your component atoms and an etch-a-sketch on the nearest brick wall , tho’?…

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 16, 2023 2:29 AM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

I always knew Jason Robards could survive anything…

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Apr 15, 2023 10:57 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

Lee Oswald the quintessential 20th century patsy . Should be buried at Arlington with the rest of the post WW2 American heroes ?

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Apr 15, 2023 10:55 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Do “patsies” get a special place in heaven or hell ?

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Apr 17, 2023 4:46 AM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Patsy Purgatory

I think someone should write a play called Patsy Purgatory. The cast would of course include Oswald, Osama, Manson, and the many other scapegoats that litter history. They could relate their experiences and philosophise on the nature of justice (or the lack of it), the dual nature of truth and so on. I haven’t included Sirhan since he is still alive.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Apr 15, 2023 5:14 PM

News media. Hey! Look over here.   :wpds_neutral:  Now, look over there.   :wpds_roll:  Wow! We have a GREAT STORY tonight!!! — After this message…   :wpds_chuckle:  Hey! Look the other way.   :wpds_razz:  Now, look like this!!!   :wpds_smile: 

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 15, 2023 5:06 PM

From the same courageous journalist team …..

that managed to sneak news of the deadly covid bug out when everyone in the whole world was trying to cover it up!that managed to covertly sneak climate change concerns to David Attenborough so he could overpower the corrupt BBC service and heroically hijack it to warn the world of imminent destruction!that managed to slip the heroically defiant Greta Thunberg through all the barriers set up by The Evil Establishment!that stood up for the victimised transgender community who were being ignored from the dawn of time!that overthrew the farming community for forcing meat onto the public when everyone was desperate to delve into cockroach burgers!

fertility
fertility
Apr 15, 2023 4:54 PM

This is the yearly hypnotism reboot. Ironically this article was used in a PR course I did 25 years back which discussed how the media repeats articles (cycles) and how they, the media and government are complicit in playing game on the general public. If you go back in time, your see the exact same articles repeated usually before the selections. Since the 80;’s hear goes…. Suitcase with top secrets document found on train. M16 spy found in holdall mystery: M15 secrets found in skip. Top secret reports found in luggage left in back of taxi. Secret Service personnel left Usb flashdrive in internet shop with address’s of undercover agents abroad. Cold war secret reports found in loft. Laptop computer containing sensitive information stolen from Secret Service agent’s car. Ministry of Defence ‘sorry’ after secret papers left at bus stop.  Kate and Prince George’s bodyguard left “secret” documents on their British Airways transatlantic flight. Top secret documents relating… Read more »

moneycircus
moneycircus
Apr 15, 2023 5:40 PM
Reply to  fertility

Don’t mention the Towering Inferno (1974). That would qualify as predictive conspiracy.

I was reminded the other day that the crash of 2023-24 sails past a population, much of which has no knowledge of the pump and dump, boom and bust of 2007-09.

Actually, people get quite angry if you dare to ask didn’t they learn diddley slavsquat from the Dot Com Bubble.. what about 1987… Don’t you know what J. K. Galbriath said of the criminals of 1929?

My grandpas (born around 1915) did not expect me to know what they knew… but to ask questions and learn? Funk yeah, that they did.

ttshasta
ttshasta
Apr 15, 2023 4:19 PM

The leaker will be angered by Waco, Ruby Ridge, and J6; quick censor the internet.
Zelensky incompetent, proposal to manage military by chatgpt and Blackrock.
We can’t produce weapons fast enough to drag it out for ten years for the stock market like Viet Nam.
The Pentagon needed the leak because they know Washington is clueless and don’t want a nuclear “exchange”.
Rebuilding Ukraine was supposed to be a $800B orgy, so how do we land this albatross?

Vagabard
Vagabard
Apr 15, 2023 4:11 PM

Mr Putin’s take on the leaks, as regards special forces:

Putin Rebukes Leaks Claiming Special Forces Decimated
https://realrawnews.com/2023/04/putin-rebukes-leaks-claiming-special-forces-decimated/

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 16, 2023 12:44 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

In the interests of informed credibility, I have to point out that one cannot rebuke a leak.
You rebuke a person, much as Jesus rebuked His disciples for their lack of faith.

What you can do is to refute a statement, a claim, or the contents of a leak.

Never having been a teacher of English myself, I now know how the English teachers at my school must have felt.
Somebody has to care, or Gibberish will take over as the official language of the Great Beset. [sic]

moneycircus
moneycircus
Apr 15, 2023 3:40 PM

The Pentagon identifies the leaker in record time. Journalists repeat CIA assurances that the leaked documents are said to be real but altered and true, but yes but no….

Gov and media push a ubiquitious narrative. Such groupthink cannot change tack; it is incapable of adjusting to reality. Reality itself must change.

https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/the-pentagon-leaks-washing-reality

Authoritarian regimes always have this problem: present fiction is prelude to future glory.

It is not the tyrant’s demand of obediance in pursuit of loot, depop and despoliation. It is the central planner’s conceit that Utopia and eternal happiness are just around the corner.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Apr 15, 2023 4:55 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

Once upon a time I wrote a song called “Washing Machine”. Lyric: > Please don’t wash my brain. It’s organic and it might shrink… And so on…

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Apr 15, 2023 5:37 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

… – ‘Parently NYT beat the Feds to the perp’s house… – Hmmm…

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 16, 2023 12:56 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Of course.
Sitting right where you are in an office and making shit up takes far less time than getting in a car and driving somewhere in order to follow up a lead and actually investigate..

Penelope
Penelope
Apr 16, 2023 2:47 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

Brianborou, you’re quite right, the story’s an obvious plant. And that’s although I haven’t read off-G or anyone else on it. Wasn’t necessary: Mere familiarity w the media and just hearing the headlines was enough. I s’pose I’ll have to read it eventually just to get an idea what the intent/propaganda value is.

Btw, here’s a great pro-Russian military article. One never knows how much is propaganda; still I find it cheering.
https://cairnsnews.org/2023/03/25/russians-catch-australian-medics-harvesting-organs-near-bakhmut/

Here’s an unusually detailed look at the war w lots of decent maps
http://www.elespiadigital.com/index.php/noticias/historico-de-noticias/40496-parte-semanal-de-guerra-las-tropas-de-la-otan-encerradas-en-un-10-de-bakhmut-se-retrasa-la-contraofensiva-y-el-tiempo-corre-a-favor-de-rusia

You just click to change it to English, of course.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Apr 16, 2023 6:09 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Thanks for the links.

Evelyn
Evelyn
Apr 15, 2023 3:22 PM

I haven’t read the files, but it shows all the signs of being a limited hangout at best, and a complete fabrication at worst.
It’s pretty safe to say that this is just another of those pseudo-leaks designed to convince the public that the state’s machinations are puddle-deep, and go no further than what the MSM reports on.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Apr 15, 2023 9:51 PM
Reply to  Evelyn

Yup. Panama Papers II. Remember that?

Howard
Howard
Apr 15, 2023 3:07 PM

The Pentagon classifies everything – perhaps even the size, shape, texture and smell of the generals’ turds. Only the very dullest minds imagine it accomplishes anything.

But it does make the bureaucrats feel special, so I guess it’s all worth it.

Matt Black
Matt Black
Apr 15, 2023 2:42 PM

BellingCat ffs, we don’t live in a detective movie, they found it because they planted it. End of story

CD3
CD3
Apr 15, 2023 2:34 PM

That’s what I don’t understand about the JFK file. Surely they can just re type the document and pretend it’s the original? Why do they need to keep records of their wrong doings? Perhaps it’s an ego thing – they want to show what they are capable of otherwise nobody would know.

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 16, 2023 12:59 PM
Reply to  CD3

It’s called “not giving a shit”.
We have to stop expecting humanoids to behave like the real thing.

Penelope
Penelope
Apr 17, 2023 5:25 AM
Reply to  CD3

CD3, Excellent question. I’ve never been able to figure that out either.

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Apr 15, 2023 2:23 PM

Regard the bbc like you would a politician who says ‘im not running for office’, or ‘i have no intention of resigning’. It’s all the same verbiage as they are all taught at the same propaganda schools.

Also, have we not learned our lessons regarding the pentagon? They still believe an airliner hit their building and that only one security camera caught the event?

A little more on the ‘leaker’ here. https://southfront.org/pentagon-leak-theatrics-continue-as-us-finds-scapegoat/

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
Apr 15, 2023 5:41 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

Numerous I-Phone cameras got footage of the aircraft strikes on the bankster towers most were suppressed by American officialdom at the time ? The idea that a government conspiracy with the thousands of witnesses , required to satisfy the 9/11 truther inside job nonsense , is impossible to believe on its face .That various successful conspiracies were launched in the weeks, months , and years afterwards by the Cheney regime is certain . The most successful was shifting the blame from the Saudis onto the Iraqis ! The reason for the many economic and political disasters that have since fallen on America .

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Apr 17, 2023 6:15 PM
Reply to  Jim McDonagh

Also, all the cctv footage from every business along the route was seized and never released. The funny thing here is that the fbi were taking tapes almost immediately after the missile slammed into the very office which was dealing with bumfelt’s lost 2 trillion dollars!

Rob
Rob
Apr 15, 2023 2:15 PM

Jimmy dore played the press conference with the Pentagon official.
Even though the press was more worried about state secrets being leaked, they brought up a lot of holes in the story, even though they didn’t realize.

How is it that this guy apparently got the documents?
Oh they say he monitored fiber lines. Ok

So, how is it that classified documents are not encrypted? There’s protocols that are followed. Otherwise we would be seeing a lot more hackers finding such classified documents.

Smells like bull …..

Balkydj
Balkydj
Apr 15, 2023 2:56 PM
Reply to  Rob

Discord. Covert. Gamers. DC Gambling, on

mocking the Media, with CIA impetus…

P.C. Perfect confusion… Pompeo candidly adding: “… could he Trans-ition, for extra juice ?
MilkyWhite Mike’$ Ca$hCow, watch them Kowtow in Hollywood’s Blockbuster
‘Chelsea & Alexandra’ tops Alexei Navalny at the BoxedOffice …”
Klartext. 0% Fat, another
Nothing burger. Nothing
You did not know already.
Angry Skunks Smell better than
Mike Pompeo’s A.S.S. wiped clean…
No question. Hazmat suit required…
Balky