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They Must Have a Good Reason

Todd Hayen

There is a strange idea hovering about that if you don’t know something then it doesn’t exist. Kind of like the image of the proverbial ostrich with his head in the sand. But it goes beyond denial. Ignorance is when you don’t know something at all, denial is when you know it, but you ignore it.

What I am talking about here is when you know something and do not deny it, but simply rationalize it away with a statement like “they must have a good reason for doing that,” or similarly, “maybe we don’t know all that there is to know about that.” Which is often followed with, “and I don’t have the time, (inclination, care, interest, curiosity, ability, intelligence, etc.) to look into it further.”

This has always bugged me to some extent, but I must admit I have been marginally guilty of this sort of thinking myself. I mean, do we really have the time to check everything? Well, now I think we have to make the time, and, of course, not everything is important enough to require vetting it for truth. That is an awful thing to say, but I am afraid it is the truth.

Part of this “gullibility” that causes many people to just brush things off assuming that all is ok comes from indoctrination from an early age. I grew up in a culture that seemed to be really obsessed with people’s safety—particularly the safety of children. Think of all the recalls of toys and such. If some toy comes out that has the slightest bit of uncertainty about how it might harm your child, it is pulled.

I should not say I “grew up” with this because most of the crap I played with as a kid would be considered a lethal weapon today—Lawn Darts, BB and pellet guns, Vac-U-Forms, chemistry sets, Easy Bake ovens (this was my sister’s toy, she was a little girl, I was a little boy—I tell you this for clarity). The “safety craze” didn’t really start until a decade or so later. I even remember some kid I knew got an “Atomic Energy Lab” toy that had actual uranium ore in the kit.

I would have died (literally) to get my hands on one of these.

Those were the days.

So over the decades, due to these recalls and safety concerns, we have developed a false sense of security. What regulation agency would bother to recall Lawn Darts but at the same time allow an unsafe vaccine to reach the unwilling arms of children? Well, toys are toys, vaccines are medicine. There ‘ya go.

The government, and other regulatory agencies, know what’s right, right?

Being born into a culture (US) that was known for its integrity, truthfulness, righteousness, and a penchant for character and goodness (ha, ha), no one would ever think that the CIA would have been actively trying to assassinate Fidel Castro, among others, for decades.

I remember first hearing a rumor about this when I was about 15. “No way,” I thought to myself. “Assassinations are illegal! My country would never be involved in such a thing!” Especially attempting to murder a leader of a country that really was just minding their own business. At least so it seemed. (Today, when we hear of such things, we shrug our shoulders and say, “They must know what they are doing.”)

And what about Iran’s Mosaddegh? He was minding his own business overseeing the affairs of Iran as Prime Minister from 1951 to 1953. The US wasn’t happy with him for a number of reasons (primarily economic, like, for example, Mosaddegh wanted Iran to get a bigger share of oil profits that the US and UK were sucking out of his nation’s oil fields, imagine that! What audacity!). The CIA bopped him off as well—indirectly with a CIA created insurrection, which led to Mosaddegh’s imprisonment and more than likely contributed to his health issues, then he died). Sure there is detail here I am not presenting, but you get the picture.

The US Government must have had a good reason.

How about Obama’s drone war? Killing a whole whack of people, including children (I would say “women and children” but I might get in trouble for that).

He must have had a good reason.

Personally, I don’t think there is any “good” reason to kill children—even if as collateral damage or unintentionally.

I am presenting here only a few examples among thousands…more than we even know of course. And this is just government actions, what about pharmaceutical actions, or other medical actions? They all must have good reasons.

As a whole most people seem to think that atrocities cannot happen in the US (or Canada, or the UK, or other countries in the “civilized” West). We are just too sophisticated for that. The irony here is the official spokespeople for the US, for example, actually present themselves as do-gooders. They either keep their actions covert and Top Secret, or they present them as “good things.” We only have to look to people like Julian Assange and Edward Snowden to see how the US treats whistleblowers who seek to expose the fact the US really doesn’t have a good reason to do much that it does—at least no reason that benefits us.

If you ever corner a sheep and throw this sort of stuff at them, they will first hit you with the statement, “why do you have to be so negative? Why can’t you just trust your government to take care of business in our best interests as a nation?” They will say that the government has to have secrets in order to keep us safe, and those people who break the law (Assange and Snowden, among many others. Since we are counting, let’s include the truckers of Canada as well) are criminals, and it doesn’t matter if your intention is good, if you break the law you are a criminal and should be punished.

If you try to argue with these sheep about anything more complex, like the CIA’s intervention into Middle Eastern affairs, they will just blow it off and say something like, “All that overseas stuff is just too complicated to sort out. And those Middle Eastern countries (except Israel) are all bad guys, I don’t really care what the US does to them, they know what they are doing.”

Sheep are funny that way. “La, la, la, la, la, la” with fingers plugging their ears. It is easy to push them to this point. Sheep poking. Try it some time for fun and pleasure.

One good way to get them there really quickly is to bring up some false flag issue that has been in the big time news within the last few decades. The 9-11 fiasco is my favorite. You’ll get the sheep fingers into the ears really quickly with the “la la la’s” going full blast. Don’t try something too far out there though, like the moon landing, or the hot ticket now, germ vs. terrain theory. You’ll only just get eye rolls for those whacko topics.

I am curious though…speaking of 9-11… what will happen when that incident is exposed for what it was? (Assuming that will ever occur.)

I will bet you money, no matter how ludicrous it would be, their first response to the realization that their own government was responsible for the destruction of those buildings at the World Trade Center, will be, “They must have had a good reason.”

Actually they did, but it wasn’t a good reason for us.

Todd Hayen is a registered psychotherapist practicing in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. He holds a PhD in depth psychotherapy and an MA in Consciousness Studies. He specializes in Jungian, archetypal, psychology. Todd also writes for his own substack, which you can read here

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Nick Baam
Nick Baam
Apr 17, 2023 6:04 PM

For years, pucks have been flying into the stands at NHL games, hitting people, hurting people, if not killing them. Then one day of course the inevitable happens: a puck flies into the stands and kills a young girl, then finally the mesh goes up.

Complacency too kills.

StStephen
StStephen
Apr 17, 2023 5:36 PM

Excellent, telling observations! I laughed jaune.

Crusader Rabbit
Crusader Rabbit
Apr 17, 2023 4:13 PM

There’s significant evidence to show that the CIA was responsible for JFK’s assassination, not only attempts on Fidel Castro. Not the least of which is that the CIA still refuses to release all of the information on the assassination from their files, even after being directed to do so by a unanimous Congress in 1992.

Howard
Howard
Apr 17, 2023 4:13 PM

The commenter “mucho” has a post at one of the other articles; but it dovetails with this article beautifully. The comment focuses on Fallujah, Iraq and the results – birth defects – of depleted uranium.

I can just hear the good Christians spouting their “God must have had a good reason for allowing those infants to suffer so hideously.”

So what’s the difference between the “sheep” who insist the government “must have a good reason” for what it does; and the Christians who insist likewise with their God? Would they say it’s because the Iraqis worship the wrong God that “our” God allowed it to happen?

There’s nothing humans cannot rationalize away.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Apr 17, 2023 3:43 PM

Kacsynski2, keep in mind the point in History we are transitioning; this is the apotheosis of the Liberal mindset: I have the right to call a group of people “sheep”, – I’m not infringing any law – and it is enough my considering that name calling not derogatory for me to feel fine about doing it; and if I feel fine calling a group of people “sheep”, the “sheep” shouldn’t feel offended about it either.

siamdave
siamdave
Apr 17, 2023 4:09 AM

the question ‘what will they do when 911 is exposed’ is not correct, it’s been exposed almost since the beginning. The sheep psychology is interesting to think about – don’t know for sure, but I think it’s along the lines of ‘Hey, my life is not that bad, it could be a lot worse, if those who are running my country get up to some bad shit, well, they also keep the electricity on, and where would I be without electricity, etc?? So best option is just to not think about it, since I can’t really do anything about it.’ Not quite the ‘standing on guard for thee!!’ citizen we’re taught that we’re supposed to be – but hey, lots of distractions and, if needed, chemicals, to keep us feeling ok about ourselves.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 17, 2023 12:53 PM
Reply to  siamdave

You are right, it has been exposed, just as most things have. What I meant when I wrote that was when it is exposed in a way that everyone is clearly aware…meaning it is headline news in the main stream media…that has not yet happened, and probably never will.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 17, 2023 3:04 AM

Nah, the sheeple’s aim is to let time running so much until its history.

When its history the sheep can pretend the past was the stupid guys but today we are wiser than those in the past.

“This is what we believed then, but today we have got wiser” (when the message no more present a danger of some personal co-responsibility).

Skinnymouse
Skinnymouse
Apr 16, 2023 11:21 PM

I truly for most of my life have been one of those people who trusted the government and thought it was all for good. That the choices made were based on good. In my ignorance I have contributed to what is happening now. On a lighter note…I love Todd’s description of his toys growing up. Great!

Kevin Craig
Kevin Craig
Apr 16, 2023 10:29 PM

If the price for understanding the “must have good reason”-thumpers is to struggle with bitterness and ill-feeling, then i have to be honest and admit that i am definitely paying it. And tipping large, too.

I can barely tolerate those who i know and care(d) for, who think they won the war; we’re going to have to bury lots of those gullible, misguided idiots, but i’m worse with strangers. Unless there is an obvious giveaway- and during the enforced house arrests, this was easy spotting people with no masks, smiling or even singing along with whatever’s on in the earpods (NWO tools, yes, i know….you can’t win them all) leaving you able to distinguish fear and self-loathing from rational, based human beings- by the second or third interaction it becomes clear to me how my acquaintance sees the world. And my part in it. And i’m not pleased.

They’re trying to pretend we didn’t notice. That they fought a conflict, and ‘we’ did not. I fought nothing- i just didn’t play.

And another thing- the ‘jabbed’ seem to recognise an ‘unjabbed’ in their midst…..i thought it was just a coincidence at first, and let it drop after a year or so…but it’s back with a vengeance. And they hate us. Their heads are out of the sand quick enough, then.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 17, 2023 3:18 AM
Reply to  Kevin Craig

LOL………true. They are really seeking an opportunity for revenge. Why couldnt we just jump off the cliff together with them?

Cowards and criminals have same behaviour as suiciders.
They cant stand alone, and will try to pull the firefighter or police officer down in the deep with them. Suicide by cop, etc.

PhilH
PhilH
Apr 16, 2023 6:36 PM

Boys can play with easy bake ovens.

siamdave
siamdave
Apr 17, 2023 4:11 AM
Reply to  PhilH
  • and girls can play with chemistry kits …
zenpriest
zenpriest
Apr 16, 2023 4:52 PM

I’m no longer a slave to fear.
I am a child of God.

siamdave
siamdave
Apr 17, 2023 4:12 AM
Reply to  zenpriest

that’s just avoidance

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Apr 16, 2023 4:30 PM

Had a sheep cornered earlier this week.

I declined an invitation from him and his wife for Easter Sunday dinner (neighbors a few hundred feet down the road). I explained that I have become impatient with people who are in denial and I would only spoil the afternoon.

He suggested that the two of us meet for lunch at a local restaurant. Reluctantly, I did. An odd fellow. An odd couple. Very nice people at the same time. Sheep. Deeply religious, I suspected that he thought I needed some kind of counseling and he was going to provide it. A gallant effort, he made.

We agreed that some kind of political compromise needs to be struck. As he has aged he has moved from the hard right to slightly left of center and I the opposite. I laughed. He didn’t. We shared commonality with the gender dysphoria issues but when I suggested that most medical leaders beginning with Fauci should be in jail he balked.

Clearly by the glazed look in his eyes, lunch was over as he quietly began to Baa to himself and his head began disappearing back into the sand from whence it had been.

He had driven. I expected the drive home would be quiet. It was.

My patience is gone. The suggestion made by Dr. Robert Malone (which he knew nothing of) that everyone vaccinated has suffered from myocarditis and eventually it will manifest into some kind of heart emergency did not sit well with him.

He knew nothing of VAERS or PCR testing problems. Bonjovi’s, “Living on a Prayer” comes to mind. Substitute “The MSM” for the words “a Prayer”.

https://youtu.be/Ba4bLJnj6MI

There is no hope for these people, in my anecdotal summation.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 16, 2023 10:04 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

This is a great story. And it just confirms all that I have experienced.

I am curious to see what Malone said about everyone jabbed having myocarditis. Do you have a link?

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Apr 17, 2023 1:37 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

He alluded to this position in his Substack. Also in a podcast interview I stumbled over. It may have been through a Children’s Health Defense post. I know this won’t help you verify, but I wrote this in another comment weeks ago. Malone basically said that those that are vaxxed should not dwell on the idea they are destined to suffer serious side effects and should live their lives normally. The summation jumped out at me because it is so serious. He was restating what he had learned from a cardiologist, I believe. I will dig around my sent email file. It was enough to push me over the edge to stop being careful. I cannot overstate how fed up I am with the continued cover up.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Apr 17, 2023 4:52 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

This a link. Not THE link. Basically refutes claim being made that increased myocarditis is being caused by Covid. I believe that Malone drew his conclusion from communications with McCullough who is much more careful than Malone in what he concludes publicly. Malone made the statement while being interviewed by a small time pod caster that “lives in a desert somewhere”. I am combing Substack. It is important to me as well. Not in my sent files as I was hoping.

https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/autopsy-studies-of-covid-19-illness?utm_source=%2Fsearch%2Fmyocarditis&utm_medium=reader2

Skinnymouse
Skinnymouse
Apr 16, 2023 11:17 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

I hope there is hope for the unaware people and the people refusing to look further. You brought up the fact of the unawareness of the sheep of what the vaccine can cause. I find it pretty unbelievable that most “sheep” do not know of any negative repercussions from the vaccine.I realize the mainstream media has not reported but certainly there has been news here and there of what is happening.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Apr 17, 2023 7:19 PM
Reply to  Skinnymouse

They refuse to read anything about it, at all. They roll their eyes when you bring up that the PCR was never a test in the first place. I’m about done trying with one of my closest friends. And yes, I am extremely impatient that she not only refuses to look at the whole covid sham, but she does not want to see the coming financial collapse or the prospect of surveillance totalitarianism. She sort of tried to ask me a few weeks ago if I have been pulling away from her. Jesus. How to answer that without coming off as a complete asshole?

But I just find it harder and harder to have discussions with those who refuse to see and act like all is normal. I know she is vaxxed and I imagine probably boosted as well. But we don’t talk about that, ya know. She is NOT in any way stupid, more than smart enough to grasp what’s going on, but will not. And then wonders why we don’t talk much anymore….

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 17, 2023 4:47 AM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

Questioning everything brings responsibility. It is easier to believe that obedience itself is a virtue.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Apr 17, 2023 6:55 AM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

Look to Jesus. You can’t heal the sick by shunning them. Your impatience is from your sense of self, selfishness.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Apr 17, 2023 5:08 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

I feel a sense of responsibility to bring out the truth to protect our country from Big Pharma, the AMA and the United Nations (among many others). Is that selfishness?

My blunt approach is based on the assumption that pro vaxxers have already closed their minds and need a nudge. Kind of like a story I learned from friend who grew up on a farm.

As the story went, A farmer had a mule that was needed for a job and a random stranger who happened to be visiting at the time witnessed as the farmer led the mule out of the barn and then whacked the stubborn (the assumption is all mules are stubborn) mule in the side of the head with a 2 x 4. “Why did you do that?”, asked the aghast stranger. “First I had to get it’s attention”, said the farmer.

That’s seems to be the gist of it.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 18, 2023 4:55 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

I can add Yuri Bezmenov’s interview about ideological subversion techniques, where he mention the leftists denial of reality in favour of ideology.

He says no matter how much you try to show white is white and black is black, they will continue to deny and find excuses, and the only way to wake them up is an boot in their balls or see their colleagues being put to a wall and shot.
THEN they wake up and realize something is complete wrong.
https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA Yuri Bezmenov interview.

Our case here is different but same psychology. As the sheep’s reaction is dangerous to our whole society, I think we have a fair and legal right to be quite upset over their continuous behaviour.

Just to confirm your reaction is sound.

Kevin Craig
Kevin Craig
Apr 17, 2023 6:01 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Here’s where i am on this. It’s taken 2,000 years and still the message of Christ doesn’t fully resonate- but for good reason. Had he known who the great betrayer was earlier, would he have acted sooner in the knowledge that were he to survive he could go on saviour-ing for a while longer? Or is it really all just turn the other cheek?

David Koresh (in his character guise) asked the question at Waco, who decided the message of the Lord be listened to, and therefore why shouldn’t anyone else’s? They might have something important to say. The irony in that, and the FBI team of God-fearing servants- Jesus was at once a criminal of the state too- lining up to massacre the sect, is anyone going to think any modern martyr as anything other than a troublemaker and a nutjob now, or in another 2000 years?

You only need to look at how Christians are suffering in the occupied lands at present to see where ‘love thy neighbour’ gets you.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Apr 18, 2023 4:25 PM
Reply to  Kevin Craig

There was the issue of Koresh using the young females as a harem of sorts. One of them was only 13 years old. The torching was accidental. Low humidity and high winds led to the catastrophe. A lot of bad decisions were made by everyone involved.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 18, 2023 5:08 PM
Reply to  Kevin Craig

But this is the condition for being here on earth.
Both God and later Christ only promised us hard times, but guided the right way of doing a life.
Man was condemned and to hard work and woman should birth with pain, and anyone who like the injustice on earth is on the Liars side. Your choice.

Crusader Rabbit
Crusader Rabbit
Apr 17, 2023 4:24 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

I have had a few interactions with sheeps, I prefer the improper plural. They went pretty much the same. But truly, I suppose I shouldn’t have been, I was shocked that none of them had heard anything negative about the vaccines, let alone about Drs. Malone, Gold, etc.. The MSM has done a stellar, and quite scary, job of silencing nearly everything contrary to the narrative.

But also, it is more concerning that the sheeps don’t seem to care to question anything coming down from on high. They just accept everything from ABC, CBS, NBC, et al to be true. And this, I think, speaks a bit to how religion factors in. Full disclosure, I am spiritual but do not believe that there is a god of any kind, I do believe there is spiritual force, that’s a discussion for another day. But believers in God are already programmed to believe in some entity from which all knowledge and everything true sprouts, so it’s that much easier for them to accept the lies from the scammers in Washington, DC.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Apr 18, 2023 4:43 PM

As an apathetic Christian, I believe that people arose via a divine plan. Southern Baptists twisted me up as a kid. Fear porn 101.

A good parable to think about (and I am far from being a biblical scholar) lies in the this parable: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2020:1-16&version=NIV

Basically, it says it is never too late to accept Jesus as your savior. Everyone who does will receive the same reward no matter when they do it.

Just don’t die before you do. The fear porn I referred to above.

Kevin Craig
Kevin Craig
Apr 17, 2023 5:51 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

Malone is a crook. If, as the story goes, he is the inventor of the delivery system, then clearly the only issue he has is how it’s used despite numerous failed attempts. He’s switching sides because he knows.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Apr 17, 2023 7:45 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

Fully aware. This not the first time you have stated this. I assume it won’t be the last. We all make mistakes. He sold me when suggested that Congress was responsible for crimes against humanity. I sent a link to that quote and sent it to my congress people. One of my leftist senators replied with a pdf of the latest CDC propaganda. I wrote him back and suggested that the document was proof of his being complicit in the crimes.

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Apr 17, 2023 7:50 PM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

Does it matter? You suggest he is complicit and just covering his ass but at least he is telling the truth now. Most of them have doubled down with the lies to protect themselves from liability and jail. If they all came out admitted the truth and called for banning mRNA technology I would allow for amnesty to some level. But not for upper tier administrators. Those fuckers knew what they were doing.

Human values
Human values
Apr 16, 2023 11:56 AM

There is never a good reason for Evil. Evil is evil. Evil is not good. There is nothing good in evil. So why does evil exist? It doesn’t make sense.

The evil, thoughts or actions or deeds, exist only based on belief. Like money.

It is only with agreement that evil is good, it can have any possibility of existence.

But if we don’t comply, if we don’t agree with it, it has no power over us.

When we see a lie and know it’s a lie, we have no reason to believe it. And when we see evil and know it is evil, we don’t take it. We reject it.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Apr 17, 2023 8:45 AM
Reply to  Human values

What is evil? Going against good. What is good? God. Therefore going against God is evil. Many are not even aware they are committing evil but the seed of satan is in them. Its no small task to make the world aware of this truth.

David
David
Apr 16, 2023 5:55 AM

I’ve thought similarly for a while regarding stratospheric particulate spraying/geoengineering: most people either do would vehemently deny that it is going on, regardless of the evidence of true eyes.

However, if it then became acknowledged that, in fact, it is taking place, and increasingly so, then those same people would in most cases pivot to a position of “Yes, but they must be doing it because they have to or know something we don’t – why are you opposing it?”

Common to both positions is the assumption – to the point of being an axiom – that the government could never knowingly do something to our detriment. It seems even more fundamental to the mental well-being of people than the need to believe that our parents mean well.

Howard
Howard
Apr 16, 2023 4:19 PM
Reply to  David

This is absolutely true. And the people will even go one more step and say they “must have had a good reason” for not telling us about it for nearly a century.

There’s absolutely nothing the majority of people can’t rationalize if they put their minds to it.

James R
James R
Apr 16, 2023 5:50 AM

It’s all a bit reminiscent of an old fashioned Carnival (bye bye flesh, grubs’ up…), though teched-up occultly in the back-labs ‘Westworld’ style. Caduceus snake oil salesmen bark their lipid greased lies to a gormless audience of slit-pocketed parboils. Smut available behind various filthy symbolic curtains, hellish intimations of how far the pure simplicity and wonder of man and woman can be digitised, dissected, degraded and despoiled.
.
Slipping amidst the slightly un-nerved, heckled by a vague internal voice that may possibly not be theirs, their hackles electrically raised, twitch the crowd. it is hard to ignore they are somewhat salved and anaesthetised by the umbilical of their ‘Smart’ enclouded consciousness. Off-shored their souls possibly.

Clown shows of vulgar thirty-shilling shills, Judas gloating and distracting the financially shorn mutton from the pens beyond the turn-styles. ‘Dodgy’ looking geezers offer free ‘Beacon’ broadsheets with included cardboard versions of ‘Hoffman Lenses’. No shades and glimpses of Donald Magill; More Webster’s ‘skull beneath the skin’ – and is the skull even anthropoid? The Roddy Piper at the Gates of a Golden Dawn.

All human life is here, or what passes for it these interesting days. I am noticing the sensible avoiders becoming more openly vociferous. I am noticing a lot of multiply exposed people coming across as cognitively almost non-human, as if they have to question something other than their own common sense and memory for some half-baked response. It’s a bit like the film ‘Idiocracy’ melded with ‘The Stepford Couples’ and ‘The Andromeda Strain’*

Maybe this is how the Zombie Apocalypse begins; not with a bang but a Parkinsonian tremor.

*Creighton had ‘spook’ tattooed all over him.

Pluto
Pluto
Apr 16, 2023 4:20 AM

Great.

Maybe it is those who are concerned with the trajectory of the world who are still asleep and need waking up. They believe that power should be accountable to people. Living a dream that was never real.

You can only take in so much.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 16, 2023 1:28 PM
Reply to  Pluto

The archetypal human need for authority/leaders goes way back. One wonders if there ever was a time when that authority was benevolent, and loving…the true “King archetype”…I don’t think it ever was intended to be in power without scrutiny though. Leaders can be good if they are watched, and checked….this part of the story seems to have been lost…and rather recently.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 17, 2023 4:18 AM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

There has been good Kings who filled out their role. British Kings, Russian Tsars, King Salomon, m.m.

But remember it all began with one rule, dont eat the forbidden fruit.
Then we had Noahs Arch.
Then we had the Ten Commandments.
Then we got Sodom and Gomorrah.
Then we raised a f…finger Babel to Heaven and got our language multiplied.
At some later point we got a Constitution.

So beyond Kings we should, for our own sake, remember there is someone above who fulfill all requirements to be benevolent, and loving.  💑 

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 17, 2023 1:02 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

In my humble opinion this is when it all started to really go bad…when God was forgotten. Although God too has been abused through time by tyrants who thought they were above God, or who interpreted God in such a way that their actions were in alignment with God, you still had some rulers, as you say, who were doing God’s bidding.

Once the world culture threw God out then tyranny proliferated. And this “throw out” has been rather recent…and is not yet fully completed. When you throw God out you throw out nature as well, compassion, empathy, even love. Evil takes over…and voilå..2023.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 18, 2023 5:31 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Perfect.
I struggled a little with the tree of good and bad, why was it there?
I found it was the point over the i of the Creation.

For what happen if you dont follow the basic rules of our universe but start to make man’s contrary rules, 2+2=7, water is dry, steal, lie, kill for fiat money, m.m?
You cant function here, you are left in wilderness, develop deceases, get mentally sick, depressions, and “you will, at the end, surely die”.

The ecclesiastes describing the living dilemma…..and the solution.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Apr 17, 2023 3:09 PM
Reply to  Pluto

Sure. Try walking blindfolded, not knowing where you’re coming from, where you’re going, and how far you’ve come so far. That must be fun. Only in the real world you’re not walking on your own, you’re pushed.

IMO better try and understand where things are going and why; so that if we have to die under this tyranny at least we take with us some satisfaction.

Bohdi
Bohdi
Apr 16, 2023 4:15 AM

My favourite line was, from a now ex friend of 29 years, ” why do you think you have this ‘special knowledge’?”

I was a bit slow to answer in the moment but upon reflection he was talking about truth!

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 16, 2023 1:29 PM
Reply to  Bohdi

That’s funny…but I relate to your experience…I have heard that too, which seem very odd. “Oh yes, I DO have special knowledge! I listen! I read! I think! And YOU can have special knowledge too!!”

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Apr 16, 2023 12:57 AM

Todd Hayen,

I must admit I do like reading you, even though I was not that keen on your avatar…you know, hand on your forehead, trying to look intelligent, which is more than I have ever tried

“The 9-11 fiasco is my favorite. You’ll get the sheep fingers into the ears really quickly with the “la la la’s” going full blast. Don’t try something too far out there though, like the moon landing”

I believed it too, until I read Dave McGowan – Bless his Soul “The Center for an Informed America” After he died – he was a chain smoker – his daughter resurrected his blog.
He was one really sharp American…Way ahead of the field more than 20 years ago.

I have never tried sticking my head in the sand, but I did try and fashion mainly on the sandy beaches in The North of England a motorboat, which I could get in, and pretend to drive it (if i was really lucky with my girlfriend)

My son is even more extreme than me with his kids. he takes a shovel to the Beach

Beach Art, is not that great in The UK, compared to eg Spain..You have got to see it to appreciate it..and it all gets washed away, on the next high tide…

I have got old and fat, but I realise, I have only got a few weeks to lose some weight and get fit for the forthcoming camping music festival season.

My technique is not recommended by anyone..Sure I drink water, and coffee, but I don’t actually eat anything, until I am really hungry. I still have one meal a day, and cook fresh for my family and sometimes friends. I can feel my stomach shrinking now, and I am getting hungry

My wife is in the top one. It’s hard to keep up.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fpa5P3cWIAEv7Ug?format=jpg&name=900×900

Tony

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 16, 2023 12:28 AM

With all due respect, you don’t have a clue about who I am and what I do…but carry on with whatever it is you are trying to do.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 17, 2023 1:38 AM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Good for you. I am a lifetime fan of Alan Watts myself.

All sheep are brothers and sisters, no doubt. As I said above I use the term “sheep” as a tongue in cheek moniker for the GROUP. And I must say that GROUP has betrayed humanity, been complicit in the death of many, including children. I am NOT happy with them…and regardless of what anyone says, it has always been in their power to see this truth, but through their ignorance, belligerence, and arrogance, they have CHOSEN not to…AS A GROUP. Individuals are an entirely different matter…and as I have said many times, my writing style allows for this usage to describe a “group.”

I am very sorry it offends you as it does…but I honestly do not think you are seeing as it is intended…if you ARE seeing it as intended, then again I am sorry you feel as you do.

You may be one of those wonderful souls who is not called to be a dirt warrior, but rather your calling is to hold universal love…as per Alan Watts…if so, I wish you well, we need you just as we need the warriors…quit reading OG and hold us ALL in prayer and love. I have a lot of colleagues who do just that…God be with you…

dom irritant
dom irritant
Apr 17, 2023 11:15 AM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

no todd you have the wrong being, k2 is talking about alan watt not ‘watts’ who is a very interesting scotsman, much more genuine and important than the alan watts you think he means. check out k2’s link

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 17, 2023 1:03 PM
Reply to  dom irritant

Ahh…thank you for the correction!! I will check it out!!

Tyrone Baird
Tyrone Baird
Apr 20, 2023 5:49 PM
Reply to  dom irritant

“Was a very intersting Scotsman” unfortunatley he passed away last year.

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
Apr 15, 2023 11:39 PM

If you ever corner a sheep and throw this sort of stuff at them, they will first hit you with the statement, “why do you have to be so negative? Why can’t you just trust your government to take care of business in our best interests as a nation?”

My answer is always, “Being an adult is much more than balancing a bank account before anything else. That affords me more energy to go about the adult process of ‘self-informing’.”

On another site, someone had commented that, “truth brings intelligence; diversity brings transvestites.”

Brilliant!

Howard
Howard
Apr 16, 2023 4:51 PM
Reply to  Mann Friedmann

Whoever made the comment you quoted is an ass hole. And that’s both true and intelligent.

Diversity is not the hob-goblin the more retarded among the Alt-Right make it out to be. But if it’s a world where everyone looks, acts and is exactly the same, then there’s an organization created just for that purpose. It’s call the WEF.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 15, 2023 11:12 PM

If we apply a certain lens to big psyops we can work out the basics very quickly. However, most willing to recognise that 9/11 was a big psyop haven’t applied that lens and so they have been fooled by the secondary propaganda campaign targeted to them – the anticipated disbelievers. Of course the perps knew that a minority of people would not believe their nonsense story which they went out of their way to make as ridiculous as possible so they had a special propaganda campaign just for the inevitable disbelievers. They love to fool us all – the believers and disbelievers alike and it works so much better when no one has the truth.

The lens to apply:

— Propaganda works better the less it corresponds to reality so it makes the most perfect sense that in psyops only what is wanted for real is done for real, the rest is faked. Moreover, whatever they want us to believe often wouldn’t work for real in any case – a very felicitous combo for those in power. They strive always for the magic of propaganda making us believe things rather than including reality in their narrative or even bothering to simulate reality as much as they can – they go the other way in fact. They didn’t need a passenger airliner to sail into Defence HQ hours after the first crash, two into the twin towers would have been more than sufficient for their terror story but no they over-egged it by having a passenger airliner penetrate Defence HQ with the further embellishment that the alleged pilot was a crybaby Top Gun.

— Those in power have 100% confidence in and always rely on the limitless elasticity of the Emperor’s New Clothes effect hence the showcasing of WTC-7’s perfect implosion from seven vantage points despite no necessity for that building’s destruction on 9/11 for their terror story – 3, 4, 5 and 6 were all damaged on 9/11 but came down discreetly later. It makes not a jot of difference what WTC-7 housed, it didn’t need to come down on 9/11.

So the questions are:
What did they want for real on 9/11?
What did they want us to believe on 9/11?
What did they need to do for real to make us believe what they wanted us to believe?

Answers:
They wanted to destroy the WTC
They wanted us to believe terrorist hijackers, passenger airliners into buildings, deaths and injury
They didn’t need passenger airliners and they didn’t need to kill and injure people to make us believe in those things. As they wanted to destroy the WTC that is all they did for real.

Questions:
— Who brought the towers down? Were the five dancing Israelis we were informed of by the mass media involved or was it Controlled Demolition, Inc (CDI), the company hired for the cleanup who has world records in destroying large buildings and a safety record they would be proud of who played a major role?

— Are any of the images of the injured inconsistent with images of those from drills?
9/11 images – http://shorturl.at/syEPR

— Are any of the images consistent with the maiming we’d expect from a bombing?

— Why did a reporter speak of empty ambulances and rescue vehicles parading past the trauma centre set up in West Manhattan on 9/11?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhGfXPGh5kI

— Can you find a convincing survivor story? This is my analysis of a story that recently popped up in my YT feed.
https://youtu.be/NDIdBb2W3ag

— At 6:00 – Desiree says with regard to the South Tower: “So if you were above [the] impact zone [you] could make it out of the um … it could find the stairwell … and I believe there were about 18 people who did make it out …”. At 7:35 Desiree says she worked on “[the] 101st floor”.
Comment: People misspeak and leave words out but it’s interesting that three words close to each other are missing (those in square brackets) and where we expect to hear “you” Desiree says “it” which seems so utterly out of place. It also seems strange that she speaks of the stairwell situation and the 18 people who made it out and with no sense of connection to them or certainty about their number although she herself must have been one of these very lucky 18 survivors who found that stairwell.

— Helpfully, Desiree explains certain ways they ensured the buildings were reasonably empty before evacuations needed to occur before their destructions: before normal office hours, first day of public school and voting day.

— At 9:04 – Desiree says, “When that first plane entered the North Tower I was as far away as you could be … ”
Comment: How so? She was in the South Tower – not so far away.

— At 10:20 – Desiree says with regard to making a phone call to her mother after hearing something gone wrong in the North Tower, “And it’s my mother who said, ‘Are you leaving’?”
Comment: “And it’s my mother …” is rather strange phraseology – who else would be asking the question but then wouldn’t you expect her mother to tell her to leave rather than simply ask her if she was.

— At 10:35 – Desiree say, “Now I live out [in] New Jersey I don’t live in New York so I had to pack my bag. I needed my train tickets to get me back home, I needed my book to read because in public transportation you need to bring some sort of reading material.
Comment: She’s just heard a bomb went off in the North Tower and she’s just arrived at the office so why would her train tickets and book not simply still be in her bag and would they really be her primary concern? Also, those who live in New York would still catch trains depending on where they lived in relation to the towers and some people in New Jersey would have lived closer to the twin towers than some living in New York.

Howard
Howard
Apr 16, 2023 5:15 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

I wouldn’t put too much store in Desiree’s wording, since so many people use English (or perhaps any other language) as merely a suggested manner of speaking.

Also, aren’t New Jersey folks noted for being blasé about everything? I wouldn’t have been surprised if Desiree’s mother had asked if she’s coming home now or going to wait and see if another bomb goes off.

I disagree that the destruction of the WTC was the primary goal. That alone wouldn’t have cemented the neocon desire to invade the Middle East. I think the Arab terrorists were the primary goal. Whatever was destroyed, the public HAD to believe it was Arabs who did it. Imagine if the people had come to believe it was some domestic terrorists; or illegal aliens; or disgruntled members of the French Foreign Legion.

No, it HAD to be Arabs for the whole stinking plan to work!

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
Apr 16, 2023 11:30 PM
Reply to  Howard

Howard, my approach is to consider which hypothesis fits the evidence with the fewest questions and assumptions raised:

Possible hypotheses:

1. Desiree is using English as merely a suggested manner of speaking (not quite sure what that means) and her mother is blase because New Jersey folks are noted for their blaseness.

2. The elements which are against expectations in what Desiree says reflect the well-known feature of psyops, revelation of the method, which includes deliberate anomalies, eg, the crybaby Top Gun piloting a plane into Defence HQ.

Which hypothesis do you think fits Desiree’s testimony of survival from the South Tower, especially when taken in the context of other information such as photos being perfectly consistent with drill-“injured” and inconsistent with the maiming we’d expect in an unevacuated bombing and empty ambulances and rescue vehicles parading past the trauma centre set up in West Manhattan?

Do you think that “Israel” was responsible for bringing down the towers or rather that Controlled Demolition, Inc, the company hired to clean up the rubble might have played a more important role than “Israel”?

Do you think in the same way that health professionals have been propagandised into implementing various protocols that have killed and injured thousands upon thousands of people during the alleged covid pandemic, demolition professionals can similarly be propagandised to leave buildings only partially evacuated before destroying them?

When I spoke of destruction of the WTC I wasn’t speaking of the main goal of 9/11 but what they wanted to do for real on 9/11.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 17, 2023 10:31 PM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Not. They wanted to instill fear and occupy our minds for the roll out of all the following wars in ME, and they wanted to make the gold in the WTC-7 basement pay for their acts.
That is what they wanted!

Besides that, I believe Lee Harvey Oswald was deeply involved in the planning together with Osama Bin Laden and the Dancing Joos supervised by the investment banker Goldberg.
This is what I believe. But thats only my 2 cent.

Howard
Howard
Apr 15, 2023 10:07 PM

If only the Woke culture could be extended to other animals. I believe – not sure, but I believe – ostriches have gotten a raw deal. Sticking their heads into the ground probably allows them to better detect anything approaching, from the vibrations along the ground. And when whatever it is gets close enough, the ostrich can deliver a fatal kick to just about anything.

Humans, however, don’t generally fare so well when aping an ostrich. Better stick to using their heads for hat racks like God intended.

Mike Chappelle
Mike Chappelle
Apr 15, 2023 9:35 PM

You mentioned germ theory vs the terrain. Two books, in my opinion, essential on this.
1. William Coleman’s Death is a Social Disease. This sets the context for what was known before either germ or terrain.
2. John Andrew Mendelsohn’s dissertation Cultures of Bacteriology, which shows how a particular version of germ theory (not Pasteur’s by the way) rose to dominance.
Book one reveals visible macro parasites, social causes, book
2 shows how social causes were pushed to the background by the invisible.
For some reason terrain theory people haven’t been interested in this.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 16, 2023 2:53 PM
Reply to  Mike Chappelle

Thank you!!

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 18, 2023 12:25 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Someone down voted “Thank you”….jeesh…

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Apr 15, 2023 8:54 PM

What’s even worse than attempting to dialogue with grown sheeple and they stick their fingers in their ears and start repeating “la, la, la, la, la” is the totally blank stares and glazed looks on their faces when you mention the COVID shots weren’t adequately tested. Especially if you try to share the fact mRNA is not new, it has been around for over a decade and was developed as a cancer treatment but the lab animals kept dying. The most incredulous among them demand, “how do you know that?”

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
Apr 15, 2023 11:44 PM

Only respond in kind.
If they are revealing themselves as hypocritical, bigoted barbarians they will receive the criticism they deserve.
Criticism is NOT Politically correct?
Too bad!

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 16, 2023 2:58 PM
Reply to  Mann Friedmann

Agreed…and I believe we must keep in mind, certain types of writing, like mine, is more satirical in nature. Using “sheep” is not a literal proclamation of an individual human being’s nature. It is broad statement identifying a “group think”…and is a device meant to be somewhat funny and also a convenience.

If I were writing serious academic essays I would not use such a word.

Anyway…I also agree with what you say here, I think of “sheep” as a label the same way I would use “republican” or “democrat” or whatever–and thus have an opinion about that group…as an individual you can decide if you belong to such a group of not…and I won’t argue with you either way.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 16, 2023 3:00 PM
Reply to  Mann Friedmann

As far as my own writing is concerned…I do not write FOR “sheep”, if I did, I would not use the term. I am not trying to help them…I am just pointing out behaviour of a group.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 16, 2023 12:26 AM

You are absolutely right.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 16, 2023 3:00 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Great…then spread your word, your thoughts, your way of seeing this that could be helpful.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Apr 16, 2023 1:24 AM

Media

To be fair there were many that were sceptical when the media first flooded the ether with convid fear porn, They did suggest media hyperbole. They could not however withstand tsunami after tsunami of hysterical propaganda backed by government measures like lockdowns which were fully backed up by big retailer restrictions and trans Orwellian censorship. A friend who was sceptical at the start has since submitted to four clot shots and claims he knows people that were killed by the deadly new virus. Big religion also was a major factor in converting the doubters. Prior to the scamdemic we didn’t realise how unfree we were. Little companies like the one I work for behaved like the major corporations in enforcing the mad rules imposed on us. You can’t be the president of a small birding club without informing the government of your position. Our little club has a sponsor with links to government and was unamused when I told him I was a JFK buff and was going to Dallas to visit Dealey Plaza.

Human values
Human values
Apr 16, 2023 11:48 AM

Yes, many people were sceptical initially, both online and live. ”It seems to kill only those who are over 82 years old.” But it all changed like overnight, after the government declared emergency law. Suddenly peace activists became pro-war, human rights activists demanded restrictions to rights because of this crisis.

Almost everyone changed into a fearful mindset, just wanting to belong to a group of cowards.

Obedience to government and officials was demanded by those who were previously anti-government. People just went crazy. How can that be explained without satanic influence?

It’s like almost everyone was suddenly possessed by the Devil.

The stickers on shop floors, nazi-like orders in supermarkets, plexiglasses, removal of park benches, and then the masks, where did all that shit come from to suddenly appear everywhere? Not just in this country, but everywhere else, it seemed.

It was not just the government, but basically every human.

Online censorship happened everywhere, even on private blogs and sites that had nothing to do with these issues.

Insanity.

Where else would it come from but the Devil itself.

Ort
Ort
Apr 15, 2023 8:03 PM

It’s Kenner, It’s Fun!

Since you mention it, the Kenner Easy-Bake Oven caused disorder and early sorrow in my family. My sister once made a batch of cupcakes with her new Easy-Bake Oven, and proudly presented them to my father when he came home from work.

Unfortunately, the cupcakes were tiny things, about an inch in diameter. Dad obligingly and appreciatively gobbled them all down in about five seconds; he truly thought that was what my sister expected.

She didn’t burst into tears, but I still remember how shocked she looked after seeing my father devour her hard work in one quick go; Dad was like Gulliver in Lilliput, and didn’t even leave crumbs on the empty plate. 🧁🧁🧁

I always wonder if this is why she never got interested in cooking and baking in later life.
_________________________________

More pertinently: the rationalizations you describe in the second paragraph get under my skin too. I appreciate true modesty and humility, and the willingness to frankly assert personal doubts and ignorance. But I learned to distrust glib disclaimers, e.g. “Oh, that’s above my pay grade” or “I just don’t have the qualifications to form an opinion about X.” 

The latter disclaimer, or meek refusal to hold (or express) even a general, provisional opinion has been worn out during the Megadeath Virus of Doom scamdemic. It’s voiced by a broad spectrum of people, from Yer Average Normal Internet Commenter to moderate “health freedom advocates”, notably when confronted with the tar baby of the “viruses not proven” argument.

FWIW, I see it as a form of abnegatory “humble-bragging”– a form of interpersonal “evasive action”. 🤔

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
Apr 16, 2023 1:46 AM
Reply to  Ort

Ort,

Great Post

“She didn’t burst into tears, but I still remember how shocked she looked after seeing my father devour her hard work in one quick go; Dad was like Gulliver in Lilliput, and didn’t even leave crumbs on the empty plate”

I never realised I was hungry, but I do remember, when my oldest sister, was kicking off at the family Christmas meal…and my Dad, did not say BEHAVE to his eldest Child…

He picked up from the Family Table, and Carried her out kicking and screaming…into the front room

BEHAVE

I loved my eldest sister to bits, as did my wife and kids

She left home to become a Nurse at the age of 16

probably pissed off that the piano had become a family bench

Human values
Human values
Apr 15, 2023 6:59 PM

”There is a strange idea hovering about that if you don’t know something then it doesn’t exist.”

The ignorant is ignorant, and being ignorant, not knowing the truth, arrogantly assumes that it knows. The ignorant can arrogantly believe that what it doesn’t know can’t exist. That can be called megalomania.

Ignorance in itself is not a problem, as one can be conscious of one’s ignorance. We can simply honestly say that we don’t know something. It’s the arrogance, thinking there’s knowledge when there isn’t, that’s the problem.

Also known as hubris.  

Howard
Howard
Apr 15, 2023 10:17 PM
Reply to  Human values

Into that category neatly fit both viruses and black holes. Some say they exist; some say otherwise.

I can understand the urgency of, say, Big Pharma believing with all their might in viruses whether they exist or not. But I don’t quite get why physics scientists need to believe in black holes.

Yet those who doubt the existence of black holes seem convinced there’s an agenda lurking there somewhere. (Stranger things have happened.)

JLK
JLK
Apr 15, 2023 11:12 PM
Reply to  Howard

At least black holes aren’t out to murder us.

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
Apr 15, 2023 11:47 PM
Reply to  JLK

And the chance that we get sucked into a Black Hole, we would never know!

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 16, 2023 7:23 AM
Reply to  Human values

The most ignorant, uneducated, unimaginative and unthinking among us – who are not ashamed to ignore all the patient, thoughtful findings over centuries – would invade our schools, libraries and homes, become our guides and leaders, and impose their feeble and childish beliefs. -Prof Isaac Asimov, 1994

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Apr 15, 2023 6:17 PM

…- The Dinosaurs didn’t know the Chixulub Comet existed… – Just sayin’…

Howard
Howard
Apr 15, 2023 10:18 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Good one!

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Apr 15, 2023 5:39 PM

9-11 has been exposed for over a decade, and continues to be.
That anyone still thinks it was an act committed by Arabs living in caves, is the real tragedy at this point.
The War on Terror, is a war on We the People. The very reason they are now shifting to “Domestic Terrorists”.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Apr 15, 2023 4:48 PM

I think the ostriches may be hunting for groundhogs… Humans? Perhaps searching for contact lenses…

ThinkTwice
ThinkTwice
Apr 15, 2023 4:34 PM

Unreported Truths:

From the start, they lied about the “pandemic of the unvaccinated”

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/from-the-start-they-lied-about-the

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Apr 15, 2023 3:05 PM

The Castro business looks more like a very stagey game to me. When I discovered that Guantanamo was a US base in Cuba ,only due to the terrorist* prisoners, I wondered why the bay of pigs fiasco was really necessary. Slight sarcasm intended. A great big bloody military base on bloody Cuba and I swallowed all that crap about communism, missile crises and gallant Fidel. Is it a wonder I don’t believe a damned thing anymore.

Human values
Human values
Apr 15, 2023 6:35 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Truth is always worthy of belief. 

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Apr 15, 2023 10:58 PM
Reply to  Human values

It’s even more worthy of being known

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 16, 2023 7:27 AM
Reply to  Human values

My suspicion is that the universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose. – JBS Haldane, 1927

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Apr 16, 2023 1:54 AM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

The Cubans said they would return any escaped post 9/11 prisoners to the Americans. The Marxists have always staunchly supported the 19 cavedwellers version of 9/11.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Apr 16, 2023 9:49 AM

19 cavedwellers? Oh, of course you’re referring to the ludicrous conspiracy theory still rampant among the mentally challenged concerning Bing Laden the swarthy crooner and his Stanley knife wielding hoodlums and their nefarious exploits in amateur demolition.

Ort
Ort
Apr 16, 2023 7:34 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Ah, another chance to dust off my sobriquet: I refer to the Official Narrative perpetrators as The Nineteen Lone Nuts. 😉

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 19, 2023 8:42 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

I believe Lee Harvey Oswald did this too, and I have the right to have my opinion and my voice being heard.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 19, 2023 8:39 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Actually it is quite easy. Shift from believing to knowing. Fixed.

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Apr 15, 2023 1:57 PM

I would say that all those who got themselves jabbed were thinking the same thing. The gov’t wouldn’t lie about something as important as this would they? But they did, and it was so obvious to anyone who did the slightest bit of research.

It turns out that there’s more ways to leave a lover than to kill Castro. The cia tried hundreds of times. This failure was offset by their successes. Bob Marley being just one of many, due to his love of football.

70 odd years on and hardly anyone believes the official narrative regarding the JFK assassination by the cia, and friends. It seems the goldfish mellow over time.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Apr 15, 2023 3:17 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

They couldn’t kill Castro don’t make me laugh. A base on Cuba and an open budget? They couldn’t have killed Kennedy or done 911 then, I suppose, too stupid. We gotta dump a lot of illusions and heroes to get out of the morass of lies, if there’s even a bottom to it.

Will
Will
Apr 15, 2023 3:23 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

Castro’s resemblance to Justin Trudeau is startling (and the dates all fit!). The plot thickens . . .

Peter Jennings
Peter Jennings
Apr 15, 2023 6:26 PM
Reply to  NixonScraypes

I concede that It’s quite possible that the whole thing regarding Castro is bullshit. We live and learn, just as long as we do learn.
If all is a ruse, that’s pretty tough on the people of Cuba who have had to mend and make do for decades because of the sanctions imposed on the country.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Apr 15, 2023 11:15 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

I read a hit piece on the Castro story by miles mathis some time ago that was very amusing. I think we all have a hard time from our government’s sanctions on ourselves via the global financial cartel. We’re all Cuban peons.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 18, 2023 12:44 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

I don’t know enough to even suggest this, and wonder if anyone could enlighten me, but I wonder if keeping Castro in place in Cuba was something the agenda would find advantage in. It was indeed a good fear creator…

It certainly would seem the CIA could easily pull that off considering the circumstances. Obviously they never did.

Howard
Howard
Apr 15, 2023 3:59 PM
Reply to  Peter Jennings

Even beyond those getting the jab believing the government lies, they somehow believe the agencies pushing the jabs – NIH, CDC, FDA – are not really a part of the government. The irony is, in a way they’re not: they’re 100% owned by big pharma, big ag, big MIC.

People in general – Americans especially – believe the private sector to be far more trustworthy than the public sector.

“They HAVE to be honest or they wouldn’t make any money!” is the American default position.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Apr 15, 2023 7:29 PM
Reply to  Howard

The Clash, more than 40 years ago …

https://youtu.be/2D-l1MauBmM

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Apr 15, 2023 1:55 PM

Interesting Headline in Today’s ‘I’

Herewith from front page: ”Nurses strike to hit cancer care and A&E as Sunak pay offer rejected.”

Oh those heartless nurses – who in fact have never gone on strike – ”have hit care and A-and-E after that reasonable offer from Rishi Sunak has made a perfectly pay offer rejected.”

Words fail me!

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Apr 16, 2023 1:47 AM
Reply to  Graham Greene

The unions backed convid to the hilt. They can never be trusted again to defend the real interests of the people they claim to represent.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 18, 2023 12:45 PM

Could they ever?

Howard
Howard
Apr 15, 2023 1:38 PM

There are four little words that the average American, or Canadian, or Briton will never – NEVER – say. The four little words that explain everything:

I PROFITED FROM IT

We all did, even those of us who aren’t afraid to look at the evil deeds straight on. How could we not have profited if we live in the countries that carried out the deeds? Our saving grace is that we would have preferred not to have profited from the death and suffering our nations inflicted on others. We would have stopped the evil if we could have.

Most people – you know: good, decent, God fearing, hard working folks – might not have lifted a finger to stop it.

Self interest is the double-edged sword that never stops cutting.

toranon
toranon
Apr 15, 2023 12:20 PM

https://www.thehermitage.org.uk/blog/kali-yuga

It’s all baked into the times in which we live. Hinduism and Buddhism has had this subject covered for millennia. In the case of the Buddhists the Kali Yuga is known as the Mapo age. It’s the same thing though.

In the Kali Yuga even the actions of good men result in adverse results.

Almost every ancient Hindu text (there are thousands of them) begins with a preamble along the lines of: “This book is written to assuage the sufferings of those generations of humans condemned to live in the terrible Kali Yuga” and then proceeds to list the characteristics of the Yuga…

Neither Hinduism or Buddhism are optimistic religions. Evil always triumphs! Well except when Shiva steps in to save humanity.

I first became familiar with Hindu philosophy and the concept of the Kali Yuga more than 50 years ago and with every atrocity, war crime etc the more convinced I am that those ancient Hindu sages were dead on the money.

Abandon hope all ye who enter here.

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 16, 2023 7:31 AM
Reply to  toranon

Siva as saviour? What hppened to Siva the destroyer?

toranon
toranon
Apr 16, 2023 12:23 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Well Omicron (the word) is definitely a three syllable Shiva mantra. Saved us from Delta (if it ever existed).

In the Hindu myths every time the human race faces extinction the other Gods ascend to the summit of Mount Kailash and beg him act to preserve humanity.

Shiva drags himself away from his meditation/congress with Kali and does the job successfully every time.

I’m hoping he smites the perpetrators of the scamdemic soon!

The Shiva Purana is worth a read. As is the Mahabharata. You’ll never take the Bible seriously again.

thinking-turtle
thinking-turtle
Apr 15, 2023 11:30 AM

Thanks for the thoughts! A policy is not bad because it has negative effects. What problem was Corona supposed to solve? What did they think Corona would do? Which other solutions were on the table? If we don’t know, who besides God can judge the character of the people who made the choice?

A historical example is Genghis Khan, who would capture a city and kill everyone in it. This caused other cities to surrender without resistance. If you evaluate this strategy, is it evil? If you measure evil by the number of deaths, how do you balance a massacre with the prevented sieges?

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Apr 15, 2023 4:40 PM

Erm… “A policy is not bad because it has negative effects.” Erm… > Welcome to the Club of Divine Idiocy, where idiotic comments are praised and accepted.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Apr 15, 2023 7:34 PM

Ah, sophistry!

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Apr 16, 2023 1:42 AM

Banksters

Genghis Khan did not exterminate entire ethnicities. The banksters did in the Americas and in Australia. They wiped out at least 300 million across the globe in the post Columbus holocaust.

solemn
solemn
Apr 15, 2023 10:58 AM

They poisoned Castro peoples crops with a Mold, Fungi and Insects.

U.S. DENIES DUSTING CUBAN CROPS WITH INSECT PLAGUE.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Apr 15, 2023 10:23 AM

The one constant down through the ages is satanic influence.
Ironic that those that profess to be “in the know” dismiss its influence on the mind of people.
Once you understand it, everything else makes sense…

Howard
Howard
Apr 15, 2023 3:18 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

The problem with satanic influence is that anything anyone finds objectionable can be lumped in with thousands of other things as being influenced by Satan.

Here’s the thing that renders Satan irrelevant: humans don’t need any urging in order to do evil. It comes as naturally as breathing.

Satan is like someone going around hawking bell bottom trousers. Humans have moved so far beyond Satan’s wares.

Human values
Human values
Apr 15, 2023 6:43 PM
Reply to  Howard

You don’t know what Satan is, but I do. It’s a liar, thief and murderer, just like the Bible says.

Human children breath naturally since birth. They don’t lie, steal and murder. So satanic influence is not a natural impulse in people.

Human babies are not doing Satan’s bidding. They are not the ones who take away your hope, faith and ability to love.

Satan is pure evil. All sins are in Satan. All lies belong to it. It is in fact a godless, sinful creature and it hates humanity.

It hates life. It hates everything good and just. It hates God. It has deceived every one of us. It deceived me.

That’s how I know what it is. I’ve seen it.  

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Apr 15, 2023 10:28 PM
Reply to  Human values

Satan is a communist, and it’s well known communists eat white babies for breakfast.
And they rape daughters.
And they love rockweilers (and Rock Music).

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
Apr 15, 2023 11:38 PM
Reply to  Human values

There is NO sin.
It is just a description of shitty behaviour.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 18, 2023 12:57 PM
Reply to  Human values

Well put…

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 18, 2023 5:37 PM
Reply to  Human values

Havent you seen small babies crawling, stealing toys from their fellow baby “I found it, now this is mine”, having an argument, being so pessed on someone to they could kill?

Human values
Human values
Apr 19, 2023 6:00 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

No, I haven’t. Babies don’t kill other people, and most violence is done by adult men.

Some children, when they are older than babies, behave in ways you mention. They learned that behavior somewhere, probably from their parents or other children. Children are mostly observational learners, imitating the behavior of others.

In a good environment, meaning non-violent other people, children do not learn violence. But when they are beaten by their own parents or others, they become twisted, and especially boys can become psychopathic.

I remember my own childhood very well. I also know that those who were beaten by their parents don’t remember much of their childhood. I had a narcissistic spouse like that.

I don’t think he was born evil.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 19, 2023 9:01 PM
Reply to  Human values

Well explained. I fully buy your argument ;-).

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 18, 2023 12:57 PM
Reply to  Howard

I see what you mean, but that is a difficult question…why do humans need no urging to do evil? Why is evil natural? Evil metaphorically can come from an “outside of ourselves” evil entity to make the concept of internal evil palatable, or fit betting in a “story”…but the organization of it as a whole is what gets me…it seems much too organized to be individualized. See my article on the egregore…

https://www.shrewviews.com/p/manifestation-of-evil-the-egregore

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Apr 18, 2023 12:47 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

As much as it wigs me out to think there is a LITERAL Satan, I am beginning to agree with you…seems that is the only thing that does make it all make sense.

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Apr 15, 2023 10:08 AM

There is a strange idea hovering about that if you don’t know something then it doesn’t exist. Kind of like the image of the proverbial ostrich with his head in the sand. But it goes beyond denial. Ignorance is when you don’t know something at all, denial is when you know it, but you ignore it.

I completely agree. But I am afraid having to keep on harping with the same issue. Are the Russians and Chinese and presumably the global south ‘all in it together’ in this secret pact as your Mr Davis seem to think? Well in one sense this is true. The picture of Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin sitting together in Yalta in 1944 or 1945 are most certainly ‘all in it together’ but these arrangements never lasted – and never did; they are purely provisional. Things took a significant turn of events – e.g. the Berlin Airlift – just after the termination of the ‘special relationship’ at the end of WW2. It’s been that way ever since, but these things are never permanent.

Huge geo-political global shifts are now taking place under our eyes. The Atlanticist bloc under the tutelage of the US now are aligning themselves into a new and aggressive formation. But the emergence of a Eurasian bloc is also now taking shape. Whether you like it or not doesn’t alter the fact one iota – rest assured they are not ‘all in it together.’

Yet the ‘all in in together’ article of faith seems to have taken on a life of its own. The same applies to Marxism. As Charlie Boy once quipped In a letter about the peculiar ‘Marxism’ which arose in France 1882 “If anything is certain, it is that I myself am not a Marxist.”

Change is difficult, but apparently Religious belief is apparently not.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Apr 15, 2023 10:21 AM
Reply to  Graham Greene

One possible ‘new and aggressive formation‘. Nato going global (as per John Bolton):

A New American Grand Strategy to Counter Russia and China
https://www.wsj.com/articles/a-new-american-grand-strategy-to-counter-russia-and-china-asian-nato-aukus-collective-defense-taiwan-da555cf

“We should pursue José Maria Aznar’s proposal to take the North Atlantic Treaty Organization global, …”

Vagabard
Vagabard
Apr 15, 2023 10:28 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

An alternative link, since it’s behind a paywall:

https://archive.is/nOdoZ

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 15, 2023 10:48 AM
Reply to  Graham Greene

The meme of “They’re all in it together” shouldn’t be taken as a cue for an Ickean vision of one particular sect at the apex of it all and rubbing their (reptilian) hands together. (Actually, even Icke admits there are different competing factions in his … umm “colourful” interpretation of events.)

OffG has been pointing out the persistence of the covid/vaccine narrative all across the nations. That surely indicates an underlying theme for keeping and extending control on behalf of the rulers of the various realms. This of course doesn’t mean they are complicit in everything else.

As for e.g. the Ukraine situation, this is also not a case of Either/Or i.e. Either the mainstream narrative of an Evil side against a Good side Or Putin secretly communicating with the Americans to say, “Heh heh, we got them all fooled!” Both sides are looking to their advantage – a matter which involves possible deals between them – and deals which we will certainly not be told about.

But over the last two decades there have been plenty of predictions – mostly on “The Left” – that a huge crash is coming. The various ruling factions are not stupid. They know they have put a “reset” off for as long as they can (such a procedure being risky). I don’t think it naïve or gullible to assume that these factions are now committing themselves to considering the “unthinkable” and are working on some underlying strategy, even if they are inevitably not “on board” with every part of it.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Apr 15, 2023 11:39 AM
Reply to  George Mc

The underlying theme that made nations respond the same way to the health emergency theater is the existence of a State in all of them. The WHO had only to convey an emergency meeting declaring there is an grave emergency blah blah blah to get the thing moving on their own.

But it is so tempting to say the “leaders” of those nations had prior knowledge of the plan for the hoax it was and were agreed on it. Projecting all-power onto a group thought to be directing History at the same time projects powerlessness into one’s ability to do anything about it, even to try to analyse it, thus conveniently avoiding to deal with the contradictions of the case. It reflects the simplistic idea that “if it weren’t for *these* people, everything would be alright”.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 15, 2023 12:12 PM

Well it’s obvious that some group must have had prior knowledge of the plan for the hoax and were agreed on it. So it was the WHO. And they exercise influence over everyone else through state mechanisms with their connections to all manner of corrupt lines e.g. totally bought institutions such as the pharma companies. “Directing History” is a meaningless straw man. It’s all down to a scam happening in the here-and-now. And it’s a big scam. And it’s clearly centralised going by the continuing unified media line. And every scam needs active agency somewhere.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 19, 2023 9:51 PM
Reply to  George Mc

It was agreed in UN in 2006. Gro Harlem Brundtland, Norway, PM, Libtard, director general of WHO; 1998-2003, headed the Global Pandemic Preparedness and Response, nearly all UN countries signed in for a global solidarity and emergency test.
Hereafter Corona was rolled out in 2020. https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/07/solidarity-response-covid-19-pandemic/02-global-solidarity-and-multilateral-support

It takes a lot of organisation and time to roll out a global mask and vaxx routine, therefore the gab between 2006-2020.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Apr 15, 2023 5:53 PM
Reply to  Graham Greene

Well, it’s all just a bit like that slogan they tried out on us three years ago, right at the start of the plague-hoax. Remember this one?

Apart together!

That’s what this EU/NATO vs. BRICS/SCO is really all about down deep: apart together. And please don’t bother trying to convince me that if BRICS/SCO wins, that their CBDC-and-clotshot tyranny is somehow going to be better than ours. It’s all the same to me.

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 16, 2023 7:36 AM
Reply to  Graham Greene

Belief is the opposite of search, evaluation, selection (judgment) and tangible action.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 18, 2023 6:39 PM
Reply to  Graham Greene

Queen Elizabeth was Chairwoman of Nato and Group 300, the TPTB.

In “Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars” they describe a shift and alignment of wealth from West to South and East and deletion of the middle class as not fit to meet and bear their responsibility as anticipated. https://ia802802.us.archive.org/20/items/silentweaponsforquietwarscollection/SILENT_20WEAPONS_20for_20QUIET_20WARS.pdf

The Manual and description fits into the They are all in It. Controlled by the British Empire and City of London at the top.

Jos
Jos
Apr 15, 2023 9:18 AM

There’s an interesting split in the opinions on certain issues, though. In the UK, the general opinion is that the government was bad to party while we were all locked up but good to rush to get us to roll up our sleeves to receive the untested gunk. Whistleblowers are bad if they talk about what actually went on in hospitals in the last three years but good if they are leaking documents (Snowden and Assange have a great deal of support in the UK). And a recent one: adults stripping off on tv to show themselves to young children in a new tv programme are accepted (Naked Education) but bad if they do so in a less public setting. The hypocrisy of holding these two beliefs as different things is cognitive dissonance in all its glory and no argument attempting to unravel that self-deception will succeed it seems.

Kevin Craig
Kevin Craig
Apr 15, 2023 12:02 PM
Reply to  Jos

Things have always appeared to me as double-speak, absurd and intentionally directed to fry people’s brain to the point they stop asking questions. I give you the eating and drinking of Christ, to commemorate his saviour-ing. Cannibalist symbolism? Administered unquestioningly.

Xavier Delacroix
Xavier Delacroix
Apr 15, 2023 9:17 AM

The construction and felling of the twin towers of the WTC (9/11) esoterically signified the immanence of the eschaton.

It was the tolling of the first bell, and intended to ‘awaken’ the sufficiently perspicacious.

It was a good reason, for mankind.

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Apr 15, 2023 3:25 PM

Eschaton….end of the world, I looked it up. What was a good reason?

Vagabard
Vagabard
Apr 15, 2023 9:12 AM

King Herod had his reasons for the massacre of the innocents. Arguably legitimate (from his perspective) since evil always tries to stamp out good. Especially that good that rivals an evil throne.

He failed in his mission, as the perpetrators of 9/11 fail in theirs. The slaughter in Bethlehem set the clock ticking on the end of King Herod’s reign, so did 9/11 set the clock ticking on the end of US hegemony?

The 21-year-old Pentagon leaker was born just after 9/11. His leaks come at the twilight of the US empire. Maybe there’s something symbolic there

Vagabard
Vagabard
Apr 15, 2023 10:05 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

To clarify (slightly):

The Pentagon leaker would have been an ‘innocent’ at the time of 9/11. Or a twinkling star in the eye of his father.

The scarlet shorts (when arrested) may be symbolic of blood shed. Or of a lamb being led to the slaughter:

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Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Apr 18, 2023 6:47 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

He will die for our sins. An innocent lam only 21 years old.

George Mc
George Mc
Apr 15, 2023 9:04 AM

The Castro assassination plot thing is an excellent example of another diversionary tactic: to admit what you’re doing as if it’s just a bit of a laugh really. Remember all that stuff about exploding cigars?

Then you’ve got the JFK thing in which they have constantly been saying it was Oswald … but maybe not and maybe this and maybe that and – hell we’ll never really know for sure. But …. then they pull off the stunt that Michael Parenti noted i.e. the old “Conspiracy buffs may be interested to know that ….” etc. JFK is for “conspiracy buffs” – which suggests that the entire matter is some kind of strand of entertainment, to be filed away like “Crime”, “Science Fiction”, “Horror” etc. (Parenti pointedly asked, “Can there be Holocaust buffs?”)

Entertainment is what it’s all about i.e. diverting as much as possible into the entertainment field. Dave McGowan once suggested that the Monica Lewinsky scandal was deliberately manufactured to divert attention away from the fact that Bill Clinton’s foreign policy was every bit as aggressive as those “warmongering Republicans”. And then we get that “incisive” movie Wag the Dog which reverses this circumstance i.e. the president starts a foreign war to distract from personal indiscretions. Thus, showing up the priorities of the affluent consumer culture where wars are nothing compared to infidelity. And note how the “radical” and “satirical” position here is precisely what drives people away from a truly subversive point of view.

Damo
Damo
Apr 15, 2023 9:31 AM
Reply to  George Mc

What shape did you say the Earth is? Where is all the evidence for dinosaurs? It all matters too. House of cards and all that.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Apr 15, 2023 8:01 PM
Reply to  Damo

Welcome, Damo! We’re looking forward to your trenchant comments!

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Apr 15, 2023 3:03 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I think Bill Clinton was targeted for voting for the Defense of Marriage bill.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Apr 15, 2023 8:50 AM

A couple of corrections

I don’t believe the CIA tried to kill Justin’s dad. (Pierre Elliot Trudeau was the world’s most famous cuckold.) They had no problem blowing JFK’s brains out.

Assange is a fraud. He tells us 19 boxcutter brandishing cave dwellers pulled off 9/11.

The moon landing can be shown in many ways to have been a hoax.

mjh
mjh
Apr 15, 2023 10:03 AM

So you think Assange is living in luxury and happy as can be? You are surely just being silly. He is not/was not a “fraud.” He may not be right on everything. But there is a difference between getting something wrong and being a fraud. He was right enough of the time that the US deemed him a menace to its interests.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Apr 15, 2023 2:59 PM
Reply to  mjh

What secrets did he bring to the people’s attention ?

Howard
Howard
Apr 15, 2023 3:49 PM

The problem is as old as humanity: going from one extreme to the other. People used to believe just about anything their governments or the press told them. Now the fashion is to believe nothing – probably closer to the truth.

Nobody – Assange or anyone else – can ever pass the purity test. Because the cards are stacked against everyone. Either one is 100% right 100% of the time; or nothing they say is to be believed.

Humans hate gray. Black or white or nothing.

Human values
Human values
Apr 15, 2023 6:48 PM
Reply to  Howard

Humanity is much older than government. King’s soldiers forced men to murder each other. King forced with violence or threats of violence people to pay him taxes. King with his minions lied that it was good.

Humanity is not the problem. The evil force attacking humanity is the problem. 

Sal P
Sal P
Apr 15, 2023 7:08 PM
Reply to  Howard

Too many people are just too lazy to separate the wheat from the chaff.

mjh
mjh
Apr 15, 2023 7:31 PM
Reply to  Howard

I prefer reality. Gray is my favorite color.

wardropper
wardropper
Apr 16, 2023 2:09 AM
Reply to  mjh

I doubt that’s really true.
There’s the inner reality and there’s the outer one, and they’re not the same.
The outer reality is certainly gray right now, but we don’t need to get sucked down with it.

Some people find this hard to do, but it is quite possible to imagine the experience of seeing a beautiful, vivid blue, or a radiant red, without them being physically present at all.
There’s a lot of hope in that, and it gets better with practice.

But I’m preaching again, without really meaning to, so please just take this as passing on my own experience as well as I can, using mere words…

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Apr 16, 2023 11:44 AM
Reply to  mjh

Yes, gray it is. Your today’s enemy is your tomorrow’s friend and vice versa.

mgeo
mgeo
Apr 16, 2023 8:01 AM
Reply to  Howard

Science – not subverted science – deals in grey: transitions from white to black. After a theory becomes respectable, a new finding may puncture it and lead to an alternative.