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39 questions about the war in Ukraine

From Russia’s Angry Patriots Club. For your consideration.

Riley Waggaman

Igor Strelkov’s Angry Patriots Club (КРП) has published a list of questions about Russia’s “special military operation” in Ukraine.

Most of their questions are highly pertinent; some of them are a bit superfluous; a few—in your correspondent’s humble opinion—are misguided and a bit silly.

But we decided to publish them all in hopes of starting a dialogue, and (this is really too hopeful) widening the abysmally narrow Overton Window that is asphyxiating “alternative media” coverage of this increasingly bizarre and precarious conflict.

As you read through these questions, keep in mind that many of them were being asked in the earliest weeks of the war by patriotic, pro-SMO voices in Russia.

We would also advise our readers not to dismiss the Angry Patriots Club as an irrelevant fringe group, even if you strongly disagree with them. The Russian government is not worried about Navalny supporters; it fears “turbo-patriots”— Russian officials have openly admitted it.

NOTE: This is not a perfect word-for-word translation (some of the questions were incurably convoluted so we had to rewrite them), but we did our best to honor the original meaning of each question. Also: Strelkov always puts Ukraine in “scare quotes” or prefaces it with “so-called”, to signify that he thinks Ukraine is not a separate country and is part of Russia. We removed all of this because it got way too repetitive and damaged the “flow” of the text. But, just so we aren’t accused of misrepresenting КРП’s position: they hold the belief that “the so-called Ukraine” is part of Russia.)

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Part I: “Historical” questions

1) In 2014, the power of the Ukrainian junta hung in the balance, and all of Novorossiya, looking at the Crimea, was waiting for Russia with hope. But the Kremlin initially refused to send peacekeeping forces to the Donbass, and then was the first in the world to recognize the legitimacy of Poroshenko’s election.

As a result of the eight-year pause under the Minsk agreements, Ukrainians created a combat-ready army, suppressed the protest movement, brainwashed a significant part of the population, and by 2022 were able to resist the Russian Armed Forces on the battlefield. WHO is responsible for the strategically failed decisions, for which Russia is now paying with thousands of lives and tens of thousands of cripples? Who has suffered or should be punished for this cretinism and/or direct sabotage?

source: TASS

2) Why were outright swindlers put at the head of the People’s Republics of Donbass, who discredited the ideas of the Russian Spring by the very fact of their presence in power? How and in what way were the most famous heroes of 2014, commanders of the militia, physically eliminated? Who bore or will bear responsibility for the fact that instead of a “showcase of the Russian World” in the LDNR, for 8 years there was a swamp in which people lived much worse than in the Russian Federation and worse than in Ukraine?

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3) How did it happen that the President of the Russian Federation (by his own personal admission) “was led by the nose by respected Kiev and dear Western partners” for eight years within the framework of the “Minsk agreements” and the “Normandy Format”?

Where were the principled and professionally qualified advisers and officials who were responsible for warning the president about what was obvious to many outside observers who did not receive state pay? Have these officials been punished in any way, or at least suspended from further performance of their duties?

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4) What was the role of a number of high-ranking Russian officials (former deputy prime minister and assistant to the president, Vladislav Surkov, for example) when DPR and LPR militias were unable to reach the borders of the Donbass republics in 2014, even as they were pursuing the already disorderly retreating Armed Forces of Ukraine? Why was the front “fixed” on the outskirts of Donetsk?

Why was Mariupol, abandoned by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, not liberated? What role did the behind-the-scenes negotiations between Surkov (and other representatives of the Kremlin’s VIP officials) play in this with the Ukrainian oligarchs—in particular, with Rinat Akhmetov? Why, after the liberation of Debaltsevo in the spring of 2015, the hostilities were again “frozen” and the Armed Forces of Ukraine were given the chance to restore their newly lost combat capability?

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5) Why for 8 years—while the Armed Forces of Ukraine were feverishly arming and preparing for a big war—the formations and units of the People’s Militia of the LDNR eked out a miserable existence, received extremely meager supplies and were armed with outdated weapons systems? Why did they practically not undergo normal combat training? Who was responsible for these issues in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and who should be responsible for the criminal mismanagement of the combat capability of the People’s Militia Corps?

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Part II: Issues of preparing the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation for combat operations (addressed to the Ministry of Defense, among others)

6) How did it happen that the “World’s Second [Largest/Strongest] Army”, which continuously won all the “tank biathlons” and rebuilt the chic “Patriot Park” with a huge cathedral, turned out to be at the start of hostilities:

  • without a sufficient satellite reconnaissance network;
  • almost without unmanned aircraft [drones], both reconnaissance and strike (which the enemy had in significantly superior numbers);
  • completely without guided bombs;
  • with an extremely insufficient number of artillery adjustment and anti-battery systems;
  • with outdated and unreliable systems of military encrypted communication at all levels?

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7) How did it turn out that the plan for the Special Military Operation was built on the basis of data completely divorced from reality? How did it happen that [this plan was based on the] unpreparedness of the enemy’s armed forces for decisive resistance, and there was no information about the high level of combat training and even higher morale of [Ukraine’s] regular army?

Why did authorities expect complete loyalty at best, and “neutrality” at worst, from the populations of the territories occupied during the SMO, while in reality the situation was exactly the opposite? Who misinformed the President in such a brazen, treacherous way? Who bears criminal responsibility for this, at least according to the laws of peacetime?

Putin on February 25, 2022: “The main clashes with the Russian army, as expected, are not with regular units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but with nationalist formations.” (source)

8) Why, in the political sphere, were the most outright swindlers and thieves, such as the scumbag [oligarch Viktor] Medvedchuk, chosen as the “favorites” who were to come to power in Ukraine after the victorious outcome of the SMO—people who were completely unpopular among the general population? Who selected these figures and on what basis? Was there a corruption component in this approach to personnel? Have the recommenders incurred any responsibility or will they bear it in the future?

source: newizv.ru

9) What military-political goals—that can be communicated in an understandable way to the people of the Russian Federation and Ukraine—were pursued (and are being pursued) with the SMO? On what basis was the SMO started? What is its legal status? Why is this missing even after more than a year of hostilities?

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10) How was the possibility of sanctions from the US and the EU not taken into account when preparing the SMO? How did it happen that over $300 billion in Russian foreign exchange reserves were blocked (in fact, confiscated) abroad? Who has incurred or will bear personal responsibility for this among the competent Russian officials?

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Part III

11) Already in the first half of the war, it became clear that the domestic military industry (among other sectors) is critically dependent on the supply of components from abroad. Where did the “import substitution programs” loudly praised in the media go? Why are the people responsible for the failure of this program not held accountable?

source: RBC.ru

12) Also, by the summer of 2022, a shortage of ammunition for artillery and some other types of weapons arose. And by the end of the year, the same problem arose with a wide range of military equipment most in demand on the front—from shells and artillery pieces and tanks—to means of communication of the most primitive level.

The shortage of bulletproof vests, first aid kits, uniforms and equipment became “the talk of the town” almost from the very beginning of hostilities and became especially aggravated after the “under-mobilization” (I will write about it below). How did the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, Rostec and other state-owned companies react to this shortage in order to correct the identified failures in time and provide the troops with the necessary weapons and equipment?

At the moment, as things stand in the 14th month of the war, there is very little progress for the better, and if you subtract equipment that is donated by volunteers, the picture looks even more depressing. Who is responsible for this situation and what urgent measures are being taken to correct it?

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13) Why at the beginning of hostilities (and still to this today!) weren’t the borders of the Russian Federation closed for citizens liable for military service? Why were hundreds of thousands of potential military personnel able to leave the territory of the Russian Federation without hindrance? And why were dozens of people with access to the most sensitive state secrets able to freely leave (in fact, flee) from the Russian Federation—including former members of the government and heads/VIP officials of state corporations? Who is responsible for this inaction?

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Part IV

14) How can one explain the ugliest absurdity, in which many thousands of professional military personnel of the RF Armed Forces and experienced PMC professional fighters “perform official tasks” in Syria, the Central African Republic, Mali, Burkina Faso, and so on, while freshly mobilized civilians, after minimal training, are sent to the front where they participate in heavy battles?

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15) Why, in the vast majority, only Russians and representatives of other indigenous peoples of Russia are drafted into the armed forces, while hundreds of thousands of young and healthy “new citizens” from the countries of Central Asia and the Caucasus are completely spared from military service during the war and are engaged in laying tiles and trimming trees in metropolitan areas?

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16) How did it happen that now, for the unauthorized abandonment of military units, the courts pass sentences on mobilized and volunteers, however, NOT ONE OF THE MANY THOUSANDS OF CONTRACTORS (including officers) are punished for desertion after refusing to perform their duties and take part in hostilities?

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17) How to explain the situation in which the Russian Federation is at war, but at the same time continues to transport through the territory of Ukraine oil and gas for export to countries (such as Bulgaria) that then, after processing, supply Ukraine with 90% of the fuel it needs? Not to mention the fact that Ukraine regularly receives payments from Russian corporations for these deliveries?

source: Gazeta.ru

18) What explains the “grain deals”, which (according to the Russian Foreign Minister) “do not benefit our country at all, since our ‘partners’ haven’t fulfilled their part of the agreement”? Considering that as a result of compliance with the terms of the agreements on our part, Ukraine not only receives large incomes from the export of its grain and other cargoes, but also receives a significant part of the supply (the same fuels and lubricants and much more) through the unblocked Odessa seaport?

source: RBC.ru

19) Why hasn’t the representative of the President of the Russian Federation, Roman Abramovich (a subject of Great Britain, which in itself is a scandal), been condemned for showering Azovites with gifts and delicacies after they were released in the Mariupol prisoner exchange? And why were these criminals, who carried out massacres, torture and other serious crimes against citizens of the Russian Federation, released to begin with?

source: Telegraph

20) What caused the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, the Moskva, to sink? And if it was sunk by the enemy, how did it end up in the reach of enemy anti-ship systems without escort and cover, as well as with non-working air defense systems, with a crew staffed by largely inexperienced recruits and conscripts? Who is responsible for this and how did it happen?

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21) What caused the “de-escalation” with the hasty withdrawal of troops from the Kiev, Chernihiv, Sumy, and Nikolaev regions, and what did the officials who proposed this solution as optimal expect as a result of it? How did it happen that our troops at the beginning of the SMO carried out a deep offensive, without bothering to protect communications that were subjected to enemy attacks? Who is responsible for this or will be held accountable?

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22) On which targets did we expend hundreds of ground, sea, and air-based cruise missiles, fired in huge quantities at the start of the SMO, if as a result, Ukraine’s military and political decision centers, as well as communications infrastructure, remain intact?

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23) Why, by the end of the 14th month of the war, the enemy’s communications in the near and deep rear have not only not been destroyed, but even somehow not violated? Why are the vast majority of strategic bridges and tunnels intact and not even attacked, through which the main flow of supplies of Western weapons and equipment enter Ukraine? How to explain the “complete untouchability” of Zelensky and top Kiev officials, including those who regularly call for the complete destruction of the Russian Federation?

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24) How did the series of missile strikes on the energy facilities of Ukraine end, why were all the strikes on secondary targets and ended before the enemy’s energy system was critically damaged? Why was Ukraine able to quickly and completely restore energy supply so much that it again started supplying electricity to neighboring states?

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25) When will the President of the Russian Federation deign to assume the functions of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, provided for by the constitution, and does he plan to do so at all? Who has been leading the fighting for more than a year and is responsible for the conduct of the war? And, in general, is there at least some responsibility for the military decisions taken?

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26) Who was punished for the “Successful Regrouping” from the Kharkov region, which ended with the surrender to the enemy with and without a fight of Izyum, Kupyansk, Balakleya, Volchansk, Cossack Lopan, a number of other cities and many settlements? As a result, Belgorod, Kursk and Bryansk regions of the Russian Federation ended up on the front line and feel all the “charms” of the status of front-line regions? Who is specifically to blame for the fact that the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was “missed”, and that the retreat from the bridgehead south of Izyum turned into a hasty unorganized flight, as a result of which Russian troops suffered huge losses in equipment and ammunition?

source: Nakanune.ru

Part V

27) On what basis was “under-mobilization” carried out if “we do not have a war”, and the so-called SMO does not have any legal status? On what basis, in this case, are citizens who have left their military units brought to criminal responsibility?

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28) Why is “mobilization” reserved exclusively for reservists in the structures of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and all other necessary components of normal mobilization (mobilization of security and law enforcement agencies, mobilization of industry, mobilization of transport, etc.) are not carried out at all? Who determined the criteria for mobilization, which literally everyone who does not want to go to war could avoid? What mechanisms are provided (in the absence of the legal status of the SMO) for draft evaders into the armed forces?

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29) Who exactly made the politically “Difficult Decision” to leave the heavily fortified and successfully held Kherson bridgehead without a fight? On what basis was the territory of the Russian Federation surrendered to the enemy? Why have we not heard a single word in any state media that this territory will certainly be liberated? And vice versa: Why are direct calls to “freeze the conflict at existing positions” (Prigozhin, for example) not being pursued by the law enforcement agencies of the Russian Federation as a call to violate the territorial integrity of the Russian Federation? Kherson is now “no longer” Russia? Who decided so? On what basis?

From Russia’s most popular military news portal: “With regret, we have to state that so far the situation for the Russian army is not developing in the most favorable way. The battles for Kiev, Kharkov and Kherson were lost. And no matter what anyone says about some kind of regroupings and new tactical approaches to the conduct of hostilities, the fact that we have lost the strategic initiative is obvious, despite the recent successes achieved in certain sectors of the Russian-Ukrainian front. There are many reasons for all these defeats, but if we summarize them in one phrase, we can say that we were not ready for such a war…” (source: topwar.ru)

30) Where is the official comment on St. Petersburg Governor [and “new normal” fanatic] Alexander Beglov’s decision to speak in front of the Ukrainian flag?

On April 14, St. Petersburg hosted the 55th plenary session of the Inter-Parliamentary Assembly of the CIS countries. In front of the building and inside the Tauride Palace, where the meeting was held, the flags of the member countries of the international body were displayed, including the flag of Ukraine (source: vot-tak.tv)

31) Why is the “concern for the preservation of the Russian people and the Russian language” declared by the president and top officials of the Russian Federation not applied to Ukraine, where the indigenous Russian population has been subjected to continuous cultural genocide for many years (and especially now)? [We’re not really sure what КРП is getting at here, as this concern has definitely been voiced before – RW]

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32) What is the reason for and what is the basis of the “strategy” of the RF Armed Forces, in which offensive operations are carried out almost exclusively on the territory of Donbass and result in months-long bloody assaults on the enemy’s most fortified lines, while even the capture of these lines (which has not been achieved in months of fighting) does not lead to the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the surrender of the Kiev regime? Why are other strategic directions stubbornly ignored, where the offensive promises much more serious successes that can influence the outcome of the war? Why is the initiative completely given over to the enemy in these directions?

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33) Where did all our latest military equipment, which was boasted about so much in the pre-war years, go? Why are the T-54/55 tanks and D-20 guns, which were used in Stalin’s time, put into service at the front in combat units? Who “scattered” in huge quantities (as a rule, free of charge) much more modern but “unnecessary” Soviet weapons and munitions across Syria-Libya-Sudan and other African republics? Who should be responsible for this? Where are the promised “combat robots”? Where are the “tens of thousands of Arab volunteers who are grateful to us for the assistance rendered”, and promised to the President by the Minister of Defense?

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34) How did it happen that Kazakhstan, saved by our peacekeeping forces from a civil war literally a month before the start of the SMO, is quickly and openly moving into the camp of our enemies, demonstrating growing Russophobia, and gradually joining all types of sanctions?

Who made the decisions to support exactly the group that (being nurtured by the “Soros Foundation”, which was well known) is now in power in Kazakhstan? What served as the basis for supporting this particular group, although there were others who were much more loyal to the Russian Federation? [This is head-scratcher because as far as we can tell, Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev is no fan of Soros; the fact that Kazakhstan is a less-than-reliable “partner” to Moscow is undeniable, however — RW]

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35) Why do our officials blame some “Ukrainian nationalists” for all high-profile sabotage, terrorist acts and simply military strikes on the territory of the Russian Federation, removing responsibility for these acts from the official authorities and the military of Ukraine, even in those cases when they themselves publicly take ownership? Where are the similar actions of the Russian special services on enemy territory? Why hasn’t a capable underground been created in Ukraine in eight years, even in the Russian-speaking regions? Why are there no attempts to create it now, except for purely media (and beneficial only to enemy propaganda) provocations led by the scoundrel Medvedchuk?

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36) How is it that while hundreds of thousands of our soldiers (as well as the population of the front-line regions living in the zone of enemy strikes) are experiencing hardships, the rest of the country continues to live as if no war exists, or is it completely irrelevant to them?

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37) When will the goals of the SMO and the conditions for the successful completion of the operation be clearly and officially stated?

Part VI

38) What is the reason for the fact that people who for years defended the Minsk agreements and “Donbass as part of a united Ukraine” are now responsible for military propaganda? And people who always, initially and reasonably, warned about the disastrous nature of such a course and predicted what it would lead to (a big and difficult war) remain marginalized by official propaganda—up to the complete rejection of the opportunity to take part in the defense of Russia?

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39) Why are the closest relatives of the highest state and military leaders of the Russian Federation spotted by the Western media in countries openly hostile to the Russian Federation? Will any conclusions about these officials be made by the President?

Riley Waggaman is your humble Moscow correspondent. He worked for RT, Press TV, Russia Insider, yadda yadda. In his youth, he attended a White House lawn party where he asked Barack Obama if imprisoned whistleblower Bradley Manning (Chelsea was still a boy back then) “had a good Easter.” Good times good times. You can subscribe to his Substack here, or follow him on twitter or Telegram.

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Martillo
Martillo
Jan 13, 2024 9:24 PM

Riley Waggaman is an American (sic) and he is still alive and presumably still living unmolested in Russia despite some of the things he has written and implied about Russian corruption and the agenda of Vladimir Putin. However, Gonzalo Lira who dared to question the rump Ukrainian and Natostan narrative was disposed of in a rump Ukrainian prison, ignored by his gubermint, the US and “partners” and is now dead as he predicted he would be some months back as he sought to cross the Hungarian border. So trust who you will but “Riley” aka Edward Slavasquat has his own agenda and the reader should not forget that. Wheels within wheels and cogs moving without any visible sign of energy leave me in doubt. “Where are the similar actions of the Russian special services on enemy territory?” He supposedly pleads ignorance concerning Spetsnatz operations behind rump Ukrainian lines, when he… Read more »

lynch
lynch
Jul 15, 2023 11:58 AM

This is brilliant.
I have screen saved it.
Will Riley being doing a part 2 to this..?

HenryJonesJr
HenryJonesJr
Jun 6, 2023 1:50 PM

Most of these questions have been answered by Colonel Douglas McGregor in his many interviews found on YT and Bitchute.

Rando
Rando
Jun 20, 2023 11:43 AM
Reply to  HenryJonesJr

In 30 years he might be right.

Martillo
Martillo
Jan 13, 2024 9:27 PM
Reply to  Rando

He might also turn out to be a red herring.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Jun 2, 2023 7:23 PM

A lot of the questions can be answered by looking at events in a historical context. Russia has always been regarded as an outsider by western powers, a sort of uncouth bandland to the east. Meanwhile Russia has gone to quite great lengths to be one of us, to be a proper European country. You can see this in the 19th century — Tsar Nicholas was regarded as the “Bad Boy of Europe”, Russia was the persistent threat right up to the point that they suddenly became friends and allies during WW1. Their defeat and the revolutions changed everything and they were definitely outsiders, Cold War 1 (“anti-Comintern pact”). They became our allies in WW2 but that was abruptly cut short after the war with Cold War 2. No expense spared to contain communism. This blew hot and cold for 40 years or so; the Russians tried ‘restructuring’, liberalizing and… Read more »

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
May 11, 2023 12:48 PM

This on OffG’s Telegram – I think it’s quite relevant to a discussion in which people are being ad hoc accused of being Nazis and 77th and whatever just for holding conflicting opinions… “Can we have a reality check  💢Pointing out the FACT that Russia is actively promoting many of the globalist agendas sponsored by the UN, WHO & WEF is NOT suggesting “Russia are the bad guys & the West are heroes“.  💢 Nor is it forgetting the dangerous & racist lunacy that drove the West’s policies toward Russia for the last decades.  💢 Nor is it minimising the reality of the genocidal 8-year Donbas war.  It’s just pointing out highly relevant FACTS about our evolving situation which we ignore at our peril. We need to get away from simplistic binaries & toward a better more nuanced & factual grasp of what is actually going on in this New Normal… Read more »

Jimboy
Jimboy
May 11, 2023 9:44 AM

I’m so confused. I though the official position of this site is the war is fake. It’s all a hologram (or something).
So isn’t that the official answer to all the questions above?
Why ask them then?
So that Riley can make a living cutting and pasting articles from Russia?

Will - Admin3
Admin
Will - Admin3
May 11, 2023 10:02 AM
Reply to  Jimboy

Has being deliberately dense and averse to nuance been a practical strategy for you thus far?

The straw men have had enough, sir, you’ve shown them what for, but now leave them be.

Will

Vagabard
Vagabard
May 10, 2023 5:35 PM

One way to put a few of those niggling questions to rest: A fairly recent “Pentagon leak” document predicted Ukraine’s Air Defenses being completely depleted by May 2023. “UKRs ability to provide medium range air defense to protect the FLOT [front line of troops] will be completely reduced by May 2023”(from a Feb. 28, 2023 document entitled “Consolidated UAF Air Defense”) May 2023. This month. Which might be a good time for Russia to play the ace up the sleeve. 900 fighter jets and 120 bombers … Will Putin Unleash Russia’s Colossal Air Force on Ukraine? https://www.newsweek.com/putin-russian-air-force-ukraine-counteroffensive-1798323 The Pentagon document dated February 28 said that missiles for Soviet-era S-300 and Buk air defense mid to long-range systems, which Ukraine relied on early on to target aircraft, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles, could be fully depleted by this month [by 02 May 2023].[…]The Russians “have an almost overwhelming level of air… Read more »

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 10, 2023 2:51 PM

Maybe this ‘War’ is to weed out ‘patriots’ & those that might prove difficult in accepting that 2+2=5. To force people to break ranks,speak out thus marking themselves as dissenters, troublesome or worse thinking for themselves.

Plus of course it provides a cause to rally behind. Another layer of divide & (c) rule?

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 10, 2023 3:30 PM
Reply to  Kacsynski2

Maybe it’s not a ‘War’ but obedience compliance test for a selection process.

The East European’s are a canny bunch. Is this conflict a way to dupe them? They’ve far greater experiences of communism than many of ‘us’. Agenda 21/2030 rolls on, it’s a crazy idea. Is this a way to lull them into accepting it?

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
May 10, 2023 12:54 PM

Got to get this off my chest, sorry. One thing I just can’t stand is people who put their prejudices before facts and rather than debate with people they just sneak and snipe. If you disagree with me don’t sneak up and say snide things, have the guts to say why you disagree, with facts, and if you don’t have any facts then take a minute to think about what you’re doing with your life.

Why are you so prejudiced you just keep believing something when you have no factual reason? Why do you want to spend your life being deceived and deceiving yourself?

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 10, 2023 3:49 PM

Facts.
Whose fact’s?

Isn’t this about right & wrong?
Facts within psyops are extremely difficult to prove and for many even more difficult to perceive, accept.

Believe these staged events keep ‘us’ in that Overton window. Look at the discussions & divisions,just here, it causes.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 10, 2023 4:03 PM
Reply to  Kacsynski2

No it’s about facts. A body of evidence that this war is to some extent being staged, or at least not being fought to win, versus a body of evidence to the contrary.

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 10, 2023 4:10 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

not disagreeing with that, believe it is, as id said in a comment not yet made it past pending. Looking for reasons.

Have called it a staged event, as it is.

Antonym
Antonym
Jul 18, 2023 5:49 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Was WW I also staged? It developed pretty similar.

Please list all “non-staged” wars.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
May 10, 2023 12:17 PM

Beer Sheba

My little thank you note to a unit in Beer Sheba was removed.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 10, 2023 10:27 AM

At the beginning of the article the author makes mention of “we”, as in “But we decided … “
Shouldn’t whoever helped the author share the by-line?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 10, 2023 11:57 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

Why are you always brimming over with spite for Waggaman? He doesn’t appear to return you the compliment.

MLS
MLS
May 10, 2023 8:50 AM

Who here can actually answer question 32 – no evasion, no misdirection, no ad homming Strelkov, no ad homming me – just answer the question or admit you can’t

What is the reason for and what is the basis of the “strategy” of the RF Armed Forces, in which offensive operations are carried out almost exclusively on the territory of Donbass and result in months-long bloody assaults on the enemy’s most fortified lines, while even the capture of these lines (which has not been achieved in months of fighting) does not lead to the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the surrender of the Kiev regime? Why are other strategic directions stubbornly ignored, where the offensive promises much more serious successes that can influence the outcome of the war? Why is the initiative completely given over to the enemy in these directions?”

paul
paul
May 10, 2023 10:01 AM
Reply to  MLS

This is not like chasing goat herders around Afghanistan or shooting stone throwing kids in Hebron. The prewar Ukrainian army was 240,000 strong, with 310,000 reserves, thousands of armoured vehicles, thousands of artillery weapons, hundreds of aircraft and helicopters, and a sophisticated air defence system. It was built up by NATO over nearly 10 years into the largest and strongest army in Europe. There was a very sophisticated, deep defensive line in the east of the country. Billions were poured in, in weapons and training. If the British or German armies fought against it in the Ukraine (something they just wouldn’t be capable of doing), they wouldn’t last an afternoon. It was a NATO proxy army, and it was ground down by Russian forces in a war of attrition with a casualty rate of something approaching 10:1 in favour of Russia. By June last year, this force had been destroyed.… Read more »

MLS
MLS
May 10, 2023 10:48 AM
Reply to  paul

So you are also arguing it’s attrition warfare. The trouble is it makes no sense. If you believe the reports then Russian troops made it to Kiev inside a few days/weeks back in Feb 2022. They were besieging the capital – and then turned around and retreated back across the Belarusian border and into Donbass and apparently then hunkered down for a “war of attrition”. That makes zero sense. None. They basically HAD Kiev – and then gave it back. Even if we ignore this beginning it still makes no sense. You don’t fight a war of attrition by refusing to shell or strike your enemy’s capital city or infrastructure. You don’t fight a war of attrition by selling your enemy fuel and paying your enemy to let you transit gas. You claim Russia destroyed the whole Ukie army in June last year – and then what? Russia sat there… Read more »

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
May 10, 2023 12:39 PM
Reply to  MLS

No one would do that in the real world. I spent five years in the British Army. Doesn’t matter where or when since I can’t verify. Point is I studied the theory of war as well as being involved in its prosecution. So I have some basis for saying there’s something wrong with this so-called war. If you know anyone who’s been in the military go and ask them. The more neutral they are the better. Find a retired officer who had to study the books. If he’s being honest he’ll tell you it makes no sense from either side or any end up. Someone said it looks like a boxing match no one wants to win. It does, but it also looks fake, at least some of the time. Back last year I’d bet my life it was pretty much 100% fake. All we got to see were videos… Read more »

Sara
Sara
May 10, 2023 3:26 PM

“I spent five years in the British Army”….isn’t this a skeleton you’d want to keep hidden in the closet?

When I think of the British Army, I mostly think either of Dad’s Army or “Prince” Harry taking potshots at “terrorists” defending their own damn country from YOU the invaders who’ve been playing Great Games in Afghanistan for…. a really long time.

It’s a far cry from the British Army of the 1940s when most of the real fighting was done by the “subjects from the colonies”.

Judging by your comments aren’t you more of a Blue Pill Reader?

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
May 10, 2023 11:47 PM
Reply to  Sara

He has since transferred to the 77th Brigade.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
May 17, 2023 3:47 PM
Reply to  Sara

Harsh, Sara. I did a similar stint. I joined at 18 when I didn’t know shit. Needless to say I have a completely different understanding of the world as an adult. Voluntary soldiers are the lowest of the low – willing to kill innocents on behalf of psychopaths.

paul
paul
May 11, 2023 12:31 PM

Unless you have had experience of industrial warfare on the scale seen in Ukraine, the previous military experience you had (and I had) simply is not relevant.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 11, 2023 12:48 PM
Reply to  paul

Don’t you mean industrial SMOfare, which is a sliding scale changing from one comment to the next?

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
May 11, 2023 2:03 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Good point. Is Is it a huge “industrial” war or a smallscale non-war? Can’t be both

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
May 17, 2023 3:46 PM

Death and wealth transfer are the only reasons the powers that shouldn’t be need to wage war. There is a reason they call war ‘theatre’. It’s all nonsense. No one should buy into it. We bring it to life with every conversation and article. That doesn’t make me heartless, it just means I keep my eyes on the enemy who’s orchestrating it: Satan and his minions. On the root, not the branches.

NickM
NickM
May 10, 2023 5:38 PM
Reply to  MLS

“Russia sat there patiently waiting while NATO built Ukraine a new army?
Who the hell would do that in the real world?”

Putin did that, against the wishes of the military, because he wanted to “Give Peace a Chance”. So he proposed 2 Peace Treaties — Minsk1 & Minsk2. We, the EU$A, signed both while we were grinning behind our other hand: “Sucker!”

“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall inherit the earth” — New Testament.

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
May 11, 2023 2:10 PM
Reply to  NickM

Putin did that, against the wishes of the military, because he wanted to “Give Peace a Chance”.

You don’t “give peace a chance” by letting your defeated opponent build a new army. That’s giving renewed war a chance.

If you really want to give peace a chance you take the opportunity of the Ukraine army being destroyed to move your troops in with minimum force, achieve all your stated objectives and negotiate a peace deal on your terms.

You know, like every victorious army has done since time began.

If Putin really sat back and let Ukraine build up a new army there’s only one conclusion to draw – he either wants the war to continue or his controllers are telling him it needs to continue.

Like Orwell said – the purpose of the war is to be continuous

NickM
NickM
May 11, 2023 8:37 PM
Reply to  Tilly Petersen

I agree that both real and armchair generals might have been right. Putin might have misjudged the treacherous intent of NATZO’s signature at Minsk. But to claim that he deliberately gave NATZO time to strengthen its Ukro-Natzi army for the sole purpose of wasting even more blood and treasure in an even bigger military operation is convoluted libel.

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
May 12, 2023 9:07 AM
Reply to  NickM

So you’re saying Putin destroyed the Ukraine army and then, instead of taking an easy victory and saving countless lives, he literally sat there for weeks/months doing NOTHING while NATO was rebuilding the army he destroyed –

and this was by ACCIDENT?

You won’t even admit that’s a bit strange?

You won’t even admit it could look quite a lot like he was trying to keep the war going?

You won’t even see why some people might legit see it that way?

You can’t even discuss it as a possibility?

katesisco
katesisco
Jun 12, 2023 7:50 PM
Reply to  MLS

As a reader, non military, I was thinking Russia shows herself willing – still – to be part of Europe. She kept the military action to Little Russia. Surely you don’t think there is a war of attrition except in Little Russia. Really bad feelings are generated by real war, feelings that take a generation to erase. You have to live with the survivors, best not to be creators of another Babi Yar.
I think its almost a copy of what the US did in Iraq. So far, next is slow occupation.

Pink Floyd
Pink Floyd
May 10, 2023 10:01 AM
Reply to  MLS

The answers are blindingly obvious to anyone who has a) examined a map of the regions under question b) knows something about the last thirty years of Ukrainian /Russian/ NATO history but especially the last 10. c) is familiar with US neocon objectives as explained e.g. by RAND corporation documents and other policy doctrines but also the whole history of OSCE and Minsk Agreements. Donetsk and Luhansk have been the target of ethnic cleansing for almost a decade. Therefore the primary objective was to protect those two territories. Crimea was not under direct shelling. By protecting Donetsk and Luhansk, you also have a natural land bridge to Crimea. Donetsk and Luhansk declared themselves independent, were the sujbject of ethnic cleansing and violations of Minsk as verified by OSCE, therefore the justification for the SMO was there under international law. The two republics are still the object of occasional random terrorist… Read more »

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
May 11, 2023 2:15 PM
Reply to  Pink Floyd

Why are you posting this as if it were an answer? It literally has nothing to do with ANY of the 39 questions, it’s just a summary of recent Ukraine history.

der einzige
der einzige
May 10, 2023 10:36 AM
Reply to  MLS

Maybe if you looked at this conflict not through the prism of a street brawl in which the one who punches the other hard wins, but as a clash between Russia and a coalition of 50 countries you would see that it is a more complex issue. Why should Russia occupy a bankrupt and extremely hostile Ukraine? Let stupid Europe keep it, plunging into decline. The success in this conflict is not the seizure and occupation of Ukraine. Demilitarization and denazification, which is taking place every day, will be a success. Ukraine’s losses are enormous. People are taken in street roundups to replenish cannon fodder at the front. The rising costs of this war for Europe and the US are weakening them every day. More and more countries are giving up the dollar in mutual settlements and fewer and fewer countries are afraid of the emperor. Now judge whether you… Read more »

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
May 10, 2023 1:23 PM
Reply to  der einzige

I’m assuming you’re a civilian and just repeating what you’ve been told in some clueless alt media video or something. Honestly, if you could just see from a trained perspective what utter rubbish this is, and there’s so much if it out there at the moment. Total nonsense. It’s Warfare 101 you can’t win without boots on the ground taking territory. That’s a universally understood basic fact of war. It doesn’t matter how much air power you have, you can’t win a war without boots on the ground. Can you just think for a bit. Get out your head and into the actual real world. How is Putin going to clear out the Nazis without taking and holding territory? Wait for them to all obligingly turn up at his door so he can pop them all off? That’s not real is it. Supposing he is finally putting real units out… Read more »

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 10, 2023 4:54 PM

Please don’t dismiss people for being ‘civilians’. It’s not necessary. Thanks. A2

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 10, 2023 9:44 PM

Tell me when was the last time the US won a war with boots on the ground ?

“ He is not hitting infrastructure “

https://southfront.org/russian-strikes-throughout-ukraine-on-may-9-2023/

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 10, 2023 11:29 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

Are we claiming that the media is trustworthy now, and isn’t a fully captured global propaganda machine as was revealed 2020-22?

We weren’t hanging on the odd news report to verify the Syrian conflict, et al. It was undeniably present in a way this SMO has NEVER BEEN. In the same way Covid NEVER WAS.

Grafter
Grafter
May 11, 2023 12:48 PM

You obviously haven’t been to the Donbass recently where many areas are now free from Ukrainian shelling terrorizing those who wanted to live in peace.

Vagabard
Vagabard
May 10, 2023 6:48 PM
Reply to  MLS

“assaults on the enemy’s most fortified lines” would seem to be a logical way of wearing down the enemy’s defences.

Though maybe it’s what follows on from it, that will prove more significant  🤔 

NickM
NickM
May 11, 2023 8:08 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Or maybe not.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
May 10, 2023 7:51 AM

Prince of Darkness

The neocon Perle was known as The Prince of Darkness. Some sections of the media 20 years ago could muster some humorous irreverence. Contrast this to (some of) the alt media of today that pays homage to the bastards

I expect this post will get 372 downvotes.

MLS
MLS
May 10, 2023 8:33 AM

Who is paying homage to what exactly? who here is paying homage to Perle? Has he even been mentioned?

I don’t see what you’re saying or what it has to do with the 39 questions.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
May 10, 2023 12:49 PM
Reply to  MLS

Perle Perle and the neocons drove the brutal assault on Iraq in 2003. The biggest antiwar demonstrations in the world showed what the people thought of this brutal cowardly and evil act. The Chickenhawks were taken apart by all informed people. The events in Ukraine have their origin in the Nuland/Kagan coup of 2014. The unsightly overweight Nuland was the next generation of Perle’s unholy tribe.Thus the Ukraine conflict is the continuation of the neocon policy that started before the destruction of Iraq and continued with the destruction of Libya and Syria.Pretending that Perle’s heirs are irrelevant to the present conflict in Ukraine is absurd. It suggests that you and your allies are aligned with the neocons and thus their masters the central banking cartel and with their propaganda mills such as the BBC , the NY Slimes and the rest of the mob that drove the scamdemic and the… Read more »

Hannah
Hannah
May 10, 2023 4:28 PM

Are you seriously suggesting that anyone – anyone – who questions the Russian government’s conduct of the war in any way is “aligned with the neocons”?

Anyone? Strelkov is aligned with the neocons? Prigozhin is aligned with the neocons? Every commenter on here who expresses the slightest doubt is aligned with the neocons?

How about those who remind you of Putin’s track record on covid? Are they aligned with the neocons?

Is it literally impossible in your view for a genuine person to have genuine doubts about Russia’s role in the world?

NickM
NickM
May 11, 2023 8:08 AM

Well and truly said.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
May 10, 2023 1:05 PM
Reply to  MLS

Question 33

This masonically numbered question is more revealing of the author’s sympathies and alignments. It attacks the support Putin gave to Syria, a target of the neocons and of a certain country in the Middle East they are loyal to. Most probably it was Syria and Sodomy that signed Putin’s death warrant. He supported the former and attacked the latter. Also his sympathy for the ethnic Russians in Donbass, the new Palestinians.

Hannah
Hannah
May 10, 2023 4:49 PM

If Strelkov wasn’t “aligned with the neocons” I guess he would have skipped number 33, huh?

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
May 10, 2023 7:02 AM

So, why the fuck is Putin not trying to win the war?

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 10, 2023 7:58 AM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

It’s called a war of attrition. To date the Russians : have destroyed 2 Ukraine armies, the vast majority of their airforce, navy, the vast majority of the Soviet equipment inherited from the USSR and now in the process of destroying the NATO equipment paid for by courtesy of the tax payers of Western countries. The real war is with NATO hence why Putin is keeping his powder dry

MLS
MLS
May 10, 2023 8:44 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

Let me remind you of this question posed above “32) What is the reason for and what is the basis of the “strategy” of the RF Armed Forces, in which offensive operations are carried out almost exclusively on the territory of Donbass and result in months-long bloody assaults on the enemy’s most fortified lines, while even the capture of these lines (which has not been achieved in months of fighting) does not lead to the defeat of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the surrender of the Kiev regime? Why are other strategic directions stubbornly ignored, where the offensive promises much more serious successes that can influence the outcome of the war? Why is the initiative completely given over to the enemy in these directions?” This is NOT a “war of attrition” or 5D fucking chess or anything else understandable. It’s just strange. It’s WTF weird. Instead of avoidance and misdirection or accusing… Read more »

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 10, 2023 9:56 AM
Reply to  MLS

“ This is not a war of attrition…” Yes, quite.

Instead of flinging ad hominem like a whirling dervish, tear your eyes from the “ analyst “ who is got it so wrong about Syria and, I might add, Bakhmut and understand what is going on !

https://thealtworld.com/anthony_cartalucci/ukraines-offensive-taking-territory-vs-the-war-of-attrition

MLS
MLS
May 10, 2023 10:48 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

It’s not a war of attrition – for all the reasons I give in my reply to Paul

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 10, 2023 2:11 PM
Reply to  MLS

“ It’s not a war of attrition…I give in my reply to Paul “

From your reply to Paul.

“ You don’t fight a war of attrition by refusing to shell or strike your enemy’s capital city or infrastructure “

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-several-explosions-heard-in-kyiv-following-sound-of-incoming-missiles-12717124

MLS
MLS
May 10, 2023 4:44 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

Give me strength. ONE maybe alleged attack SEVEN MONTHS AGO?

If this was a real war of attrition Putin would be pounding Kiev and the other major cities plus power stations and water treatment centers and the military centers and the airports with everything he had.

Remember a little thing called the Blitz?

Taken a look at Syria recently?

That’s what war looks like when you’re trying to win.

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 10, 2023 7:48 PM
Reply to  MLS

“ …One maybe alleged attack ..”

Here is one that on the 8th May 2023 and there are many any more from October to the latest date.

“ If this was a real war of attrition..power stations ..”

Hmm, it seems you need to widen your sources. The Russians have attacked the energy power plants and infrastructure of Ukraine numerous times.

For example they recently attacked the railway logistics. hub at Pavlograd near the city of Dnipro which is a main railway for the Donbas and Zaporizhia front lines.

https://www.irishnews.com/news/worldnews/2023/05/08/news/ukraine_shoots_down_35_drones_over_kyiv_as_russian_attacks_kill_three-3262622/

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 10, 2023 9:34 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

Yes but you can’t really argue both ways can you? Are Russia leading a ‘special military operation’ designed to protect infrastructure and civilians at all costs, or are they trying to win a destructive war of attrition as you’re suggesting here (which MLS disputes)? If the latter, they’re being really incompetent about it, aren’t they? And in either case, aren’t they unnecessarily drawing out the conflict, and the concomitant danger to civilians and world peace?

I feel that in your effort to forgive Russia literally ALL sins, this is getting overlooked. A2

MLS
MLS
May 10, 2023 8:34 AM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

Good question. No answers incoming.

NickM
NickM
May 10, 2023 5:47 AM

VE Day: when Russia triumphed over.Racism

From George Galloway, whose name is inscribed among the righteous Britishers:
https://youtu.be/KKg4vi2uIaU

Alex Mercouris translates and analyses Putin’s speech:
https://youtu.be/oSSDSWquumU

MLS
MLS
May 10, 2023 8:59 AM
Reply to  NickM

George Galloway?

GEORGE GALLOWAY?

George Galloway the covid shill who called covid skeptics “flat earthers” and insulted and abused them on his show and social media?

That George Galloway?

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 10, 2023 11:54 AM
Reply to  MLS

Yup. I used to respect Galloway until he bought into the plague-hoax. Same with Caitlin Johnstone. Now it’s impossible for me to take such people seriously anymore.

NickM
NickM
May 10, 2023 6:12 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Welcome to this world!

But in Heaven one meets only with People who are Perfect.

NickM
NickM
May 10, 2023 6:08 PM
Reply to  MLS

“That George Galloway?”.

No, the George Galloway who was expelled from TB.Liar’s New Liebour Party for decent behaviour. The one who opposed the invasion of Iraq by a 20-Nation Coalition of the Killing, headed by POTU$A George “Shrub” Bush and British PM TB.Liar.

Will - Admin3
Admin
Will - Admin3
May 16, 2023 3:27 PM
Reply to  NickM

After some extensive research, I have discovered that they are, in fact, the SAME George Galloway if you can bloody believe it!

Vagabard
Vagabard
May 10, 2023 6:12 PM
Reply to  NickM

Thanks. A text translation of the speech is here:
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/71104

Kalen
Kalen
May 10, 2023 2:13 AM

Putin is committed globalist, represents interests of Russian oligarchy and their commercial and financial interests worldwide including in the west. That fact alone in large part explains Putin behavior in 2014 and even later as he was initially blinded by his globalist outlook and refused to fully acknowledge clear western attempts to remove him from office that started in 2008 when Georgia attacked North Ossetia and followed by 2010 attempts to politically bribe Medvedev to get rid of Putin and so called Moscow spring during 2012 presidential elections in Russia when Putin returned to power after four years as PM. Putin in fact refused to properly acknowledge and draw right conclusions from US instigated and funded SBU coup in February 2014 against Yanukovitch for what it was namely a first step in a process to remove Putin by military means. Following next eight years west spent to prepare formidable force… Read more »

Grafter
Grafter
May 10, 2023 12:27 PM
Reply to  Kalen

You should write speeches for Stoltenberg.

SubTropical
SubTropical
May 10, 2023 1:18 AM

The longer this war churns on, the more western weapons stockpiles are diminished. A major reason why this war is being waged so slowly is to continue to suck those stockpiles dry. De-nazify Ukraine? How about de-weaponise Europe

paul
paul
May 9, 2023 10:30 PM

Like all wars, the Ukraine conflict is a very dark tragedy that periodically degenerates into broad farce. Many people understandably have difficulty making any sense of it.

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
May 10, 2023 11:22 AM
Reply to  paul

But YOU know what’s going on of course. You know from the safety of your armchair more than that bloke Strelkov does from actually being on the ground. Because you watch the Duran, two blokes in armchairs like you who just get their info from MoD reports.

paul
paul
May 11, 2023 12:29 AM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

No, I don’t have any special powers and I just try to make what sense I can of the world around me. Because my family was virtually wiped out in 2 world wars and that can happen again. And because if petrol costs £30 a gallon and a loaf of bread costs £!0 it affects me like everybody else.

NickM
NickM
May 11, 2023 8:37 AM
Reply to  paul

“Like all wars, the Ukraine conflict is a very dark tragedy that periodically degenerates into broad farce”.

Thanks, Paul, for reminding me that I once wrote a play about 19th-20th century militarism that led to great scientists inventing the atomic bomb. That drama was called The Dice Thrower, and I described it as “A Tragic Farce”.

futurist
futurist
May 9, 2023 5:13 PM

Is the cost of living worse than the west.?

It seems the dazzle of the article over looks the important part. (no surprise there)
Important part. does it cost more money to live there.?


  • What is the retirement age .?
  • Is Gas and Electric and petrol expensive.?
  • Is the transport system and fares good.?
  • Rent and wages is it livable. ?

I can speak for my colleagues and I. all we care about is: cost of living and way of life and you people never address this.

paul
paul
May 9, 2023 6:53 PM
Reply to  futurist

Apparently money buys 3-4 x as much as in the US.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 9, 2023 9:34 PM
Reply to  paul

With a salary 7-8 times less…..apparently :-).

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
May 10, 2023 7:05 AM
Reply to  futurist

What has that got to do with the 39 questions?

paul
paul
May 9, 2023 4:14 PM

A few days ago, Prigozhin of the Wagner Group went into a lengthy tirade against Shoigu and the senior leadership using some fairly salty language, accusing them all of incompetence, corruption and treason. He threatened to pull the Orchestra out of the fighting completely. But Wagner had just suffered 94 casualties killed and wounded in heavy fighting that day, and he was clearly under a lot of stress. He had calmed down somewhat by the following day, and the musicians went back into action to finish off the job they had started. This sort of thing happens in every war, with senior figures engaging in fairly ridiculous private feuds in the midst of a general bloodbath. A couple of German generals conducted a private feud on the Eastern Front and challenged one another to a duel in one of the more ridiculous episodes of the campaign. Hitler had to intervene… Read more »

Sam I am
Sam I am
May 9, 2023 4:48 PM
Reply to  paul

Case closed

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
May 10, 2023 7:02 AM
Reply to  Sam I am

How do you work that out? I don’t see anyone answering the questions up top.

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
May 10, 2023 11:58 AM
Reply to  paul

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
May 9, 2023 4:06 PM

This article offers some additional insight. Evidence that the war is just a pretext for Russia to do the same.

Ukraine’s Future Lies in the Great Resethttps://unlimitedhangout.com/2023/05/investigative-reports/ukraines-future-lies-in-the-great-reset/

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 9, 2023 9:44 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

Exactly. Alongside the war, Ukraine/Blackstone invest heavily in digital wallets, forced Corona vaxxes, QR coding and nanobot lipid666lucifer food, transhumanism via lsd and brain chipping.
The Bolshevik Zelensky has asked Russia to stay the f… out of Kiev and Western Ukraine, and only make a real fight in Donbass, and Kremlin cant do a shet because it has to stick to all the rules of “the International Community”.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
May 9, 2023 2:11 PM

Fun

I found this fun.

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futurist
futurist
May 9, 2023 5:38 PM

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Grafter
Grafter
May 9, 2023 12:34 PM

Dear oh dear oh dear. This aficionado of Russian bashing is really having a field day. Tell you what Wagga sit back and wait until fascism is eradicated in Ukraine and see how lives will be improved after Zelensky and his thugs are liquidated.

Hannah
Hannah
May 9, 2023 3:40 PM
Reply to  Grafter

Grafter, hi. Could you indulge my puzzlement for a moment and explain to me how you define “Russian bashing”?

I mean, Strelkov is Russian, I think, or ethnic Russian at least. Yet quoting his criticisms of the conduct of the war is “Russian bashing”?

So, how does this work? Can a Russian engage in Russian bashing?

Is attacking Strelkov also then definable as “Russian bashing”, since he is a Russian being bashed?

Is it possible to critique the government of Russia without Russian bashing? If so, can you explain how this can be achieved?

Howard
Howard
May 9, 2023 3:54 PM
Reply to  Hannah

There are innumerable USA bashers inside the US. This is an important distinction because “bashing” is diametrically opposed to critiquing.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has been thoroughly criticized in this forum for merely critiquing the American system – instead of bashing it outright.

The distinguishing factor seems to be the old bugaboo “Working Within The System.” A critique implies the system is salvageable and worth preserving; whereas a bashing implies the system is corrupt beyond salvation and perhaps should be destroyed.

Hannah
Hannah
May 9, 2023 4:51 PM
Reply to  Howard

Thank you Howard. How does this apply to the article and conversation happening here?

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 9, 2023 6:04 PM
Reply to  Hannah

“ I mean, Strelkov is Russian” So is Dennis Pushilin but to date no articles from our man in Moscow ( touches of Graham Greene) about him.

Grafter
Grafter
May 10, 2023 12:34 PM
Reply to  Hannah

It matters not what race you belong to. What matters is what comes out of your mouth. Zelensky is supposed to be Jewish and yet ?

Hannah
Hannah
May 10, 2023 4:58 PM
Reply to  Grafter

You didn’t actually answer my question. How do you define “Russian bashing”? Is Strelkov “Russian bashing”? Is Prigozhin “Russian bashing”? Or are they airing genuine concerns?

If you criticize Strelkov are you “Russian bashing”?

Is it possible to offer genuine criticism of the Russian govt or the war? Or is it automatically Russian bashing?

Hannah
Hannah
May 10, 2023 5:02 PM
Reply to  Grafter

addendum – do you believe any reservation expressed about any aspect of Russian foreign or domestic policy automatically means the person expressing that opinion supports NATO?

jimbo
jimbo
May 10, 2023 4:56 AM
Reply to  Grafter

Grafter:

Ahem. How dare you with your insolence. How dare you offend these off-grau self-righteous nattering NATO devotees!

Hannah
Hannah
May 10, 2023 5:28 AM
Reply to  jimbo

oh for goodness’ sakes! Is Strelkov working for NATO now? Is it possible to express any reservation whatsoever about the Russian government or its conduct of the war without being a NATO devotee?

Literally nobody
Literally nobody
May 9, 2023 12:17 PM

I’m not aware of any serious commentary or analysis that holds to the Ukraine war as a Wag the Dog scenario, but for my own part I believe that is still the mist likely reality

Woowoo
Woowoo
May 9, 2023 12:02 PM

The fastest way of agenda 30 becoming a reality would be a war situation and the western alt media painting it as ‘a nothing to see show’ or its is all fake. My granddad remembers ‘war rationing stamps’ and his friend remembers the ‘rationing books ‘ they had this as youngster and in today terminology this would be a QR code or a digital wallet. The lockdown and no jab no job policy showed you what lengths there willing to do. There is no faster way of all this happening without the escalation of war. The Emergency powers act in a war situation would make the pandemic look like a walk in the park. As my granddad and his friend reminded me, once that happens, everything changed back them over night. The signs where there though and many ignored them. Its a little bit like, what is happening now. Some… Read more »

Tesco Shopping Trolley
Tesco Shopping Trolley
May 9, 2023 12:18 PM
Reply to  Woowoo

The fastest way of agenda 30 becoming a reality would be a war situation and the western alt media painting it as ‘a nothing to see show’ or its is all fake.

Well luckily for humanity 99.9999% of the western alt media are painting it as a 100% real conflict between WEF and Putin. They think if Putin wins he’ll dismantle Agenda 2030 and we’ll all be saved.

Is anyone saying it’s all fake? Asking wtf is going on is not the same as saying it’s all fake. Saying Putin is up to his bollocks in Agenda 2030 isn’t saying it’s all fake. It’s just pointing out a bit of truth.

Hannah
Hannah
May 9, 2023 3:41 PM

Very well said – very true and funny too. Made me smile.

Woowoo
Woowoo
May 9, 2023 4:51 PM

Well luckily for humanity 99.9999% of the western alt media are painting it as a 100% real conflict between WEF and Putin.

Like who exactly ….

Hannah
Hannah
May 9, 2023 4:58 PM
Reply to  Woowoo

You can’t be serious.

Try Duran, 21C Wire, Consortium News, RT (of course), TLV, Vanessa Beeley, Eva Bartlett, Caitlin Johnstone, Scott Ritter, John Pilger, Edward Curtin, Patrick Lancaster, Matthew Ehret – and many many more.

Basically any name or outfit you can think of in Western alternative media with the exception of Riley Waggaman, Iain Davies, James Corbett and OG. They are all advocating for Russia as the good guys in a moral standoff with NATO.

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 9, 2023 6:34 PM
Reply to  Hannah

You seem to forget that the West has been waging a strategy of dismembering Russia for almost a millennium.

You seem to forget that West funded and trained the Ukrainian Nazis prior to WW2 and for the last 70+ years since the end of WW2. Besides of course giving them succour in the US/ U.K./ Canada and many other countries.

You also seem to forget that US Maidan putsch, financed by and supported by the US/ U.K., installed this Ukrainian Nazi regime.

I suggest you read in depth the history of Russia and Ukraine , which is an artificial country, to grasp why so many of those you have mentioned do not take the view that Russia + NATO are not all joined at hip in some game of charades

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
May 10, 2023 7:19 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

You can’t use history to hide the present. Things change. Enemies can turn into allies. Look at covid. Putin could have blown that wide open if he wanted to, but he just told the same lies and pushed the poison vax on his own people. He’s still bloody doing that! That means either he never was the moral guy he seemed to be or something has changed. Either way, we have to keep up. No point in living in the past.

Now Putin is playing silly buggers in Ukraine and this is serving the same agenda as the whole covid shit. You gotta ask why, ok.

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 10, 2023 8:14 AM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

“ You can’t use history to hide the present “

Hmm, so according to this logic, the US/ U.K. instigated over 54 coups/ colour revolutions around the world but there is nothing to suggest they would do it again.

Tesco Shopping Trolley
Tesco Shopping Trolley
May 10, 2023 9:20 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

Jesus pal are you even capable of a straight answer. She didn’t say you can’t learn from history, she said “you can’t use history to hide the present”.

She also said “THINGS CHANGE”.

Things HAVE changed ok. Putin has sold out to the globalists. He did it with covid and looks like he’s doing it with the war. He’s not trying to win. He’s keeping it going because he’s been told to, just like Zelensky has, because it’s a good distraction from all the Agenda 2030 shit going down, and it eats up resources and creates scarcities in the shops. Just like covid was supposed to do.

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 10, 2023 2:49 PM

Blasphemy doesn’t reinforce case. It’s not a question of using history as a blind but rather to look at factual evidence. Ie did the Teutonic Knights invade Russia, did the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth invade Russia, did Sweden invade Russia, did France invade Russia, did the 3rd Reich invade Russia? Answer yes they did. Did the West financially plus economically rape Russia and almost destroy it via the MI6/ City of London plot to sell of the Russian Federation’s last remaining asset, oil, which Putin thwarted. Answer yes he did. Did the West start a number of proxy wars , just like the Ukraine, plus colour revolutions in neighbouring allied counties such as Belarus and Kazakhstan in order weaken Russia. Answer, yes it did. This is just but a very small sample of historical facts that the West have utilised in order to dismember Russia. Now you make a number of… Read more »

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 10, 2023 3:09 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

Satanical ideology? Dude, you’re selling all the psyop distractions today :]

Please engage directly and straightforwardly if you can. Stodgy gish galloping screeds will be called out from now on.

Stay on point.

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 10, 2023 10:57 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Hmm, the topic is concerned with an “ analyst “ 39 questions concerning predominantly the SMO related by your man in Moscow.

Yet, when some commentators here attempted to draw attention to the RF’s previous strategy to Covid , it is not deemed off topic.

Sam, you can either address me either as Brian or whatever but please not as dude.

It is not befitting for a moderator !

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 10, 2023 11:04 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

It is, it’s just you’re not hip.

Brianborou.
Brianborou.
May 11, 2023 7:00 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Hip when out with the hippies !

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 11, 2023 10:26 AM
Reply to  Brianborou.

So too your sense of irony

hotrod31
hotrod31
May 10, 2023 1:06 AM
Reply to  Hannah

But isn’t that a little like the ‘good-cop vs bad-cop’ kabuki theatre, while the orchestrators are behind the ‘viewing-mirrors’?
The real tragedy of the situation, is that this conflict, much like the conflict in Syria, was all planned in advance and innocents are being slaughtered, daily. Whether they’re in or out-of-uniform doesn’t obscure the facts of the matter … they’re innocents being used as sacrificial pawns in the games played in boardrooms, for the benefit of the same barbarians-in-suits who run the ‘Cartels’. Picking, or ‘favouring’ sides is a wasted exercise because we should ALL know by now, that ALL wars are deceitful exercises, created by the same people, for the same people, with the same motives … PROFITEERING.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 10, 2023 1:53 AM
Reply to  Woowoo

Basically, everyone but Riley Waggoman and this website here, it seems.

mgeo
mgeo
May 10, 2023 5:47 AM
Reply to  Woowoo

BoE or UK Treasury told the people to accept being poorer. You can’t get more blatant than that. They have more urgent matters to spend public money on, such as economic, subversive and military destabilisation, not forgetting royal matters.

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 9, 2023 10:00 AM

During all those years when the US war machine toured the world it was BAU in the US and the rest of the “First” world but all of a sudden such a thing isn’t possible?

Grow up.

Sara
Sara
May 9, 2023 9:10 AM

Welcome to the Wacky Waggamnan World of cut and paste + machine translate “non”-Guardian journalism.

MLS
MLS
May 9, 2023 10:42 AM
Reply to  Sara

What is the point in posting this? It’s not factual, it’s just crude ad hom. Do the Strelkov questions hold water or not? That’s all that matters. What are the facts here? Strelkov claims certain things are true. So, if you think he’s wrong tell us why – with facts not empty sneers.

hotrod31
hotrod31
May 9, 2023 11:20 AM
Reply to  MLS

Tsk! Tsk! Now, now boys and gyrls, you’re being led to the water, nobody is forcing anyone to drink.

Sara
Sara
May 9, 2023 1:02 PM
Reply to  MLS

Are you really unwarea that factual and reasoned responses to “some” articles on this site are destined to die at the hands of the censors, and if by some miracle one out of 100 such comments scrapes through, one can look forward to an instantaneous 30 downvotes and a stern admonishment for the admins for voicing a different opinion. So why bother?

Tesco Shopping Trolley
Tesco Shopping Trolley
May 9, 2023 1:50 PM
Reply to  Sara

Oh I get it. You’ve got a fuck ton of facts at your fingertips but mean old Off-Guardian won’t let you post them. So all you can do is post stupid shit that makes you look retarded. Oh well, that is a bitch that is. But whats a gel to do, right.

Howard
Howard
May 9, 2023 4:07 PM

This is a very long article, filled with data (and bear in mind data is not a synonym for facts). To rebut it would take a comment as long as the article itself.

I have no idea if commenter Sata has such a compendium at her disposal. But I can almost guarantee you that if she did, it would almost certainly not appear.

Frankly, what bugs me are the comments which cut and paste quotation after quotation in an attempt (a vain attempt) to “prove” the commenter’s point. Just because Expert Y and/or Expert Z said it doesn’t make it the absolute proof.

It amazes me that when MSM “experts” present facts, they’re dismissed as “fake news.” Yet when Alt-Media “experts” present facts, they’re automatically accepted as the Gospel.

Tesco Shopping Trolley
Tesco Shopping Trolley
May 10, 2023 9:44 AM
Reply to  Howard

You post here all the bloody time chum. So does NickM and BrianBoring and Placenta whatever his bloody name is, and IAmSam, you’ve all got fuck tons of gobshite on this thread where you’re totally OT or going off on tangents or libeling the site or libeling Strelkov and now you’ve got the brass nerve to say you’d be able to talk sense if you weren’t being censored! 😂😂😂😂😂

brianborou
brianborou
May 11, 2023 12:24 PM

Hmm, are you related to Lady Dawn Porter, she was off her trolley as well !

Pink Floyd
Pink Floyd
May 10, 2023 3:29 PM
Reply to  Howard

A detailed political and historical analysis of mine to Q.32 got swallowed today. I’m not going to try again.

Will - Admin3
Admin
Will - Admin3
May 9, 2023 4:44 PM
Reply to  Sara

None of your posts have been flagged.

This is an outright lie.

Do grow up.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
May 10, 2023 12:13 PM
Reply to  Will - Admin3

Admin3. Obviously a growth industry.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 10, 2023 4:23 PM

Snide prickish asides btl. A bigger growth industry

Theophile Gautier
Theophile Gautier
May 9, 2023 11:12 AM
Reply to  Sara

I dislike mockery in place of fact. I feel always suspicious this is because there is no fact!

Robin Hall
Robin Hall
May 9, 2023 9:07 AM

Modern wars are not intended to be won.

Grafter
Grafter
May 9, 2023 12:37 PM
Reply to  Robin Hall

That’s America for you.

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 11, 2023 8:23 AM
Reply to  Robin Hall

Chechnya, Georgia !

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 9, 2023 8:41 AM

Igor Strelkov published an article in 2016 about the Russian Federation’s military intervention in Syria.

https://m.vk.com/wall-99725619_25587?lang=en

MLS
MLS
May 9, 2023 10:46 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

Yeah, but look – Strelkov isn’t predicting so his failure as a predicter is irrelevant. He’s saying certain specific things are true. He’s VERY specific, so if he’s wrong it should be easy as pie to prove it right here. Can you do that? You’ll have my attention if you can

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 9, 2023 2:16 PM
Reply to  MLS

“ his failure as a predicted is irrelevant “ Well, it is just as well Surovikin, Putin and Gerasimov, paid not the blindest bit of notice to his advice as Syria would now be ruled by the headchoppers. Let’s have a look at a small snippet of his expertises as an analyst. From the March 2023 article: Russian military blogger Igor Girkin has played down the significance of reports that Russian troops have encircled Bakhmut and expressed doubt that the Donetsk city can be held by Moscow. 4. In an interview here, he said some incredible things. That ‘the majority of Syria’s population is not loyal to Assad’, and the biggest of all: that Assad will definitely fall, there is no possible way for Russia to save him. Woops… talk about blunders. This is the galaxy brain that some people are using as their authoritative source on the SMO? Really?… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
May 10, 2023 6:02 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

The encirclement of Bakhmut for a year with good supply lines was deliberate: grinding up Ukies and destroying large quantities of purportedly superior weaponry. Was there any sensible or believeable analysis of this? What does that say of the “free press”?

NickM
NickM
May 10, 2023 7:48 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

From your Link: “Igor Ivanovich [Strelkov] led a massive information attack on the Syrian operation on literally all fronts”.

And was massively wrong on literally all fronts. By holding NATZO’s “irresistable armed might (against small countries)” at bay, the Russian army enabled the Syrian Army to rout NATZO’s ISIS mercenaries. President Assad’s welcome back by the Arab League yesterday May 9th means that NATZO has now been officially defeated in Syria.

Cheers from everybody except the two chief AZC regimes, UK & U$A.

NickM
NickM
May 9, 2023 8:16 AM

Putin’s answer to Q36: The rest of the country carries on as if no war exists because this not a war but a Special Military Operation to de-Nazify the Ukraina (for the second time in living memory). The SMO demands only a tiny fraction of Russia’s military resources, and it has made the Russian economy now stronger than the EU$A economy.

Real war, involving the full Russian army, may begin if the EU$A refuses Putin’s polite request to pull NATZO back where it belongs:
No NATZO nukes East of Berlin.

Maria Johnson
Maria Johnson
May 9, 2023 9:42 AM
Reply to  NickM

Thanks you for explaining the truth so succinctly ..

Tesco Shopping Trolley
Tesco Shopping Trolley
May 9, 2023 11:39 AM
Reply to  NickM

Did Putin say that?

If de-nazifying Ukraine is so flippin easy how come they are nowhere near doing it after 16 months?

How are they planning to de-nazify the whole of Ukraine without leaving the Donbass?

The story doesn’t hang together well does it? I get why people think it’s all a bit rum

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
May 9, 2023 5:30 PM

If we take what Russia tells us about their “SMO” then they’re really into destroying the AFU, not capturing and occupying the whole of Ukraine. This concept is a muddied a bit because of the LPR/DPR/Crimea breakaways. So I’d guess the strategy is to just sit tight on defensive lines and wait for the AFU to come to you with just the occasional foray to make sure it doesn’t turn into a modern version of WW1. (There was the original knockout blow attempt at Kiev, frustrated by a carefully planned defense. This is when Russia learned that they were really fighting NATO, not Ukraine. NATO’s strategy as usual was to go for a short, intense, war using economic sanctions to wreck the adversary’s economy. This didn’t work, in fact the sanctions seem to have blown back and NATO’s had to resort to a ‘wonder weapon’ strategy, using a handful of… Read more »

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 10, 2023 4:31 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Yes, funny how those NATO sanctions were ‘blown back’ like that. Who could possibly have predicted that? 🤔

NickM
NickM
May 10, 2023 8:07 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I did, because those Green German Girls were obviously out to bring in the Great Reset and impoverish Western Europe by refusing to buy cheap Russian gas on reliable long term contracts. In fact, I mailed a friend the BBC’s excellent videos on Daily Life in Tudor England to illustrate where these high minded ethics were leading us: to a life of useful toil in the fields and cheery wood fires.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 10, 2023 4:07 PM

“Because facts really should be sacred”. You know that’s OG’s motto, don’t you TST?

Hannah
Hannah
May 9, 2023 3:47 PM
Reply to  NickM

I do apologize Nick, but that really does sound like the most appalling nonsense. If Strelkov’s claims are correct, Russia is either paralyzed by utter incompetence or is deliberately trying to lose (or not win) the war.

Aside from a rather weak effort by Paul, where he rephrased the questions and basically answered different ones from those being asked by Strelkov, neither you nor your fellow Putin enthusiasts here have even attempted to address these points directly.

I fear there is only one conclusion to be drawn from that.

Duckman
Duckman
May 9, 2023 8:16 AM

when you understand this:

https://allll-net.translate.goog/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%98%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%83%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BC_%28%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%29?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp#cite_note-1

then other things will make sense

and then you will be able to proceed and get a deeper understanding of who is behind the abysmal situation our wonderful world is in

understanding on how and why they got to be that way will require a deeper plunge into ancient history and the “good book”

if ever there was a time to start thinking outside the box (cube) then it is now

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Brianborou
Brianborou
May 9, 2023 9:05 AM
Reply to  Duckman

Would it be by chance the same group who pull the strings of the Western governments ?

paul
paul
May 9, 2023 10:48 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

Not those Seventh Day Adventists again?
They seem to control everything.

Tesco Shopping Trolley
Tesco Shopping Trolley
May 9, 2023 11:46 AM
Reply to  paul

Oh ffs you’re one of them Righty Putin fans who thinks he’ll be tough on joos and homos. As opposed to the Lefty Putin fans who think he’s about to put Biden in Guantanamo and initiate Universal Love Day.

I bet he pisses himself about how easily fooled you all are. While he continues vaxxing his own population and sucking off the WHO and WEF at every opportunity and you all keep acting like he isn’t.

😂 😂

paul
paul
May 9, 2023 3:14 PM

You really must stop sitting on the fence and sugar coating everything, TST. Just tell it like it is and say what you think without beating about the bush so as not to offend everyone.

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
May 10, 2023 7:10 AM

You nailed it. Paul is one of those seat sniffer Hitler fan boys who wear swastika armbands in their basement and jack off to the Horst Wessel march! 🥴🤣

paul
paul
May 10, 2023 10:17 AM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

Am I a Hitler fan boy or a Putin fan boy?
I’m a bit confused.
I thought I was a reality fan boy but apparently I’m wrong.

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
May 10, 2023 11:04 AM
Reply to  paul

LOL – You’re both. You’re a little seat-sniffing greasy haired joo-hater who thinks Putin will sort them out like Hitler did. You have fantasies about Hitler youth doing calisthenics and at the same time you hate gays as much as joos. Reality is mostly too painful for you. You’re a joke.

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 10, 2023 4:02 PM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

Ciao Allie! Another newbie. Hope you’ll be hanging around OG.

paul
paul
May 11, 2023 12:49 AM
Reply to  Allie GoPro

I didn’t know I was so versatile. But like TST, you need to stop sitting on the fence and sugar coating everything. Stop beating about the bush and just say what you think. Don’t worry about offending people.

What are calisthenics?

Victor G.
Victor G.
May 10, 2023 4:01 PM

It’s nice to be receiving input from you TST. You’re new on OG, right? I hope you’ll be in it for the long haul. Lots of folks comment a few times and then vanish or else they change their names. That isn’t you, right?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 10, 2023 4:38 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

Some of the subtlest probing I’ve ever seen. lol

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 9, 2023 2:18 PM
Reply to  paul

Do they control the City of London as well ?

Hannah
Hannah
May 9, 2023 3:50 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

well of course they do Brian. Globalism has powerful adherents in every major institution in the world and is obviously the dominant philosophy in the third decade of the 21st century.

It also controls most of the institutions and government in Moscow. If you look at what they do and not what people like Putin are saying (words are cheap and used to lull and control people), this is too obvious

NickM
NickM
May 10, 2023 8:21 PM
Reply to  Hannah

Thanks, Hannah. You summarized what I call “the OffG Line on Russia and China” in two short clear sentences.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 10, 2023 11:14 PM
Reply to  NickM

But I’m sure the evidence will continue to be ignored, dodged and evaded, and Russia’s motives salved with special pleading to the point no meaningful discussion can take place 🙄

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 11, 2023 8:32 AM
Reply to  Hannah

“ …and not what people like Putin are saying ..”

Hannah, do you mean when the RF was at its lowest ebb and teetering on total collapse plus dismemberment ( the goal of the West for nearly a millennium) when along comes Putin to prevent Rothschilds &co’s chief envoy in Russia from selling the RF’s last remaining asset. Oil !

https://www.voltairenet.org/article168007.html

Theophile Gautier
Theophile Gautier
May 9, 2023 11:14 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

Yes, who also pull the strings in the Kremlin – covid proved to us this.

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 9, 2023 2:25 PM

Well, it certainly isn’t the City of London, who control the Western governments, as their chief bankers ( Rothschild) envoy in the Russian Federation ( Khordokovsky) found out in 2011.

https://www.voltairenet.org/article168007.html

Hannah
Hannah
May 9, 2023 3:53 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

Try to understand that the City of London, like WHO, WEF, IMF, Bilderberg, BRICS, the Fed etc etc are just components in the global structure of control and influence.

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 9, 2023 6:10 PM
Reply to  Hannah

Hmm, it seems you have never heard of the Scottish expression “ he who pays the piper calls the tune”

Hannah
Hannah
May 10, 2023 5:55 AM
Reply to  Brianborou

I have and it perfectly describes the situation in which the global elite operate through their interconnected financial institutions. The City of London is just one spoke in that hub.

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 11, 2023 8:50 AM
Reply to  Hannah

The City of London is at the centre of the hub and all spokes lead to it as many researchers have demonstrated in the past !

NickM
NickM
May 10, 2023 8:31 PM
Reply to  Hannah

That is very high politics indeed. Far above the national wars that I write about on OffG. Even higher than the Global Anglo Zio Capitalists that I write about. The AZC are just one part of this “global structure of control and influence”.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 10, 2023 11:15 PM
Reply to  NickM

Actually it descended rather lower and became rather bloated 2020-22. Perhaps you missed that?

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 11, 2023 8:47 AM
Reply to  Hannah

The WHO, WEF, IMF..Fed are controlled and financed by whom ?

Well, let’s look at one of those components the Fed which is controlled by the US government?

No it is controlled by a consortium of private banks which in turn are interlocked into the City of London. Eustace Mullins, Edward G Griffin and many others wrote numerous books concerning the real owners of the Fed.

The City of London’s chief uno numero banker one Rothschilds &co plus their various branches names surfaced time and time again.

Here you can read a short extract from Dean Henderson’s book.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-federal-reserve-cartel-the-eight-families/25080

wardropper
wardropper
May 9, 2023 3:11 PM
Reply to  Duckman

They seem to have overlooked the small point that their “Heavenly” Jerusalem isn’t actually in Heaven, but all-too earthbound…

It’s like everything else today:
Drag everything down to the dead-ordinary level, so that sublime concepts like ‘God’ and ‘Heaven’ won’t threaten anybody’s inferiority complexes…

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 9, 2023 4:01 PM
Reply to  Duckman

See:
https://off-guardian.org/2022/06/09/ukraine-what-comes-next

I couldn’t be bothered posting it all again, but here’s a brief sample.

Lost in a dark wood
Jun 19, 2022 4:38 AM
In contrast to the Greater Israel Project, I’m going to refer to this Ukraine plan as the “New Israel Project”. If Putin is “in on it”, which seems likely, the recruitment and deployment of useful-idiot neo-Nazis becomes just a ruse to justify the Russian invasion; and that invasion permits the land grab for the New Israel.

Furthermore, this is all a business decision by the Ecumenical Holding Company. From a business perspective, it no longer makes sense to keep high-tech Israel in the Levant; and they are therefore relocating to Ukraine. They probably don’t care much about religious Israel.

https://web.archive.org/web/20141210000910/https:/www.voltairenet.org/article186164.html
Wayne Madsen – Israel’s Secret Plan for “Second Israel” in Ukraine
Voltaire Network
December 8, 2014

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 9, 2023 6:43 PM

Is this the Ecumenicalist solution to the religious conflicts? When they (City of London Empire and its predecessors) were developing a global banking network (i.e. the Knights Templar) and pushing the Greater Israel Project, they needed an irreconcilable source of conflict with the locals. So they built a mosque on “the rock”. Then, when they decide to relocate to Ukraine, they conclude that “the rock” was a few hundred metres away all along! — The Coming Temple – Full Documentary NuBeat Music Dec 21, 2016 Filmed in the Old City of Jerusalem, this ground-breaking documentary investigates the research of renowned Biblical archaeologists, Bob Cornuke, David Sielaff and Earnest L. Martin who claim that Solomon and Herod’s Temples never stood on the Haram al Sharif, also known as the Temple Mount. If they are right, then there is nothing to stop the Jewish people building their long awaited for Third Jewish… Read more »

Gonzogone
Gonzogone
May 16, 2023 11:12 PM

Biblical archaeologists

A lovely oxymoron!

Gonzogone
Gonzogone
May 16, 2023 11:09 PM

Absolutely, Ukraine is an attempt at another Israel and seems to have been the location of something like the headquarters of zionism in Europe for some time.

arielazalexander
arielazalexander
Jul 20, 2023 4:24 PM
Reply to  Duckman

Yes of course it makes a lot of sense. I can vaguely remember hearing about this some years back. I have the fortune/misfortune to be half-Khazarian/Ashkenazi on my mother’s side. My uncle/her youngest brother explained this to me in his house in Neve Tzuf in the occupied West Bank near Ramallah in November 1995. The other half/my paternity is Irish/Scottish. My mother’s family story was that our ancestors on her side fled pogroms in the Ukraine (Odessa) and the 5 generations before her had been born in Egypt. So I had always been curious about the quasi-Jewish side of my roots and there I was checking them out in my uncle’s small American-style suburb surrounded by settler guards, razor wire, killing zones, and army base. If you were a Palestinian you walked with your hands behind your head and a settler guard pressing the muzzle of an M16 into the… Read more »

yep
yep
May 9, 2023 7:46 AM

Ukraine is the venue or the dirty old mattress if you like, for an international weapons trading corporation orgy. Why should all these MD’s scoop up gargantuan Cov-health profits alone? We want in on the global heist scene too.

Johnny
Johnny
May 9, 2023 5:29 AM

Sorry, off topic, but it’s a small win for ‘Covid’ justice:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-09/victorian-government-offers-tower-lockdown-settlement/102319922

Victoria, and particularly Melbourne, under Dictator Dan, had some of the harshest lockdowns in the world.
Hopefully, there will be many more incremental victories until their edifice of lies comes crashing down.

yep
yep
May 9, 2023 7:48 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Small price to pay for the delicious news bites and real time social engineering and behaviour modification ops.

NickM
NickM
May 9, 2023 8:18 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Good news.

“A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step” — Proverb.

Gary Greenfield
Gary Greenfield
May 9, 2023 3:27 AM

The question to ask is, How does this fake war fulfill the goals of the globalist agenda?
17 Goals of the World Economic Forum

  1. Poverty for all
  2. Keep everyone hungry
  3. Poor health for all
  4. Propaganda for the masses
  5. Gender destruction
  6. Poison all water
  7. Eliminate sensible energy
  8. Destroy economies
  9. Destroy infrastructure
  10. Promote inequality
  11. Make cities into hellholes
  12. Promote wasteful consumption and production
  13. Subvert natural weather patterns
  14. Pollute the oceans
  15. Pollute the land
  16. Disorder, injustice and weak institutions for all
  17. Strengthen one world tyranny
Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
May 9, 2023 3:27 AM

A couple of N words A couple of glaring omissions. The word neocon does not appear once. Neither does the surname Nuland. Inefficiency and strategic errors occur. They are not the root cause of what appears to be a stalemate. In a highly centralised world sanctions and encirclement are (not so) slow strangulation. As convid demonstrated so eloquently, the central bankers have total control over every nation of the world. The banksters now want regime change in Russia and a new Khazaria in what has become Ukraine. The first objective is of course direct control over the petroleum and other mineable resources of that vast territory. They would also like to introduce anal sex and sexual neutering as in the West. The second objective , the new Khazaria is logical given the ethnicity of most modern central bankers. The vast sums pouring into Zelensky’s coffers from every Western country as… Read more »

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 9, 2023 5:16 AM

Lord anal sex practices can lead to throat diseases overhaul it’s one reasoning we’d be generalised educated about Condom. Thats not controversial its universally well known. Including European and American military forces. btw.

semaj
semaj
May 9, 2023 10:24 AM
Reply to  Clive Williams

Eh?

Tesco Shopping Trolley
Tesco Shopping Trolley
May 9, 2023 11:47 AM
Reply to  semaj

bot malfunction

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 10, 2023 7:44 AM

Fact.

Tesco Shopping Trolley
Tesco Shopping Trolley
May 10, 2023 9:09 AM
Reply to  Clive Williams

It’s not even coherent English mate – I mean wtf does “Lord anal sex practices can lead to throat diseases overhaul it’s one reasoning we’d be generalised educated about Condom” even mean? The fact you don’t realize it’s gobbledegook means you’re either Google translating or you’re a chat bot with a major malfunction 😂

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 9, 2023 12:15 PM

If indeed the banksters want régime-change in Russia, it can’t be because Putin hasn’t gone along with their vaxx and CBDC agenda.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
May 9, 2023 2:23 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

The banksters are not sentimental. They don’t care if you went along with some of their dictates. If they don’t want you they get rid of you. It is possible that Putin is playing along with the banksters game plan. It may be coercion. It may be hope he will be spared at the end. As with Hitler.

The sad fact is this site is ignoring the neocon gorilla in the room, their bloody and evil record and sniping at the victim Russia.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 10, 2023 12:27 PM

Nobody here is sniping at Russia. We are simply voicing our skepticism towards the Russian government. You understand the difference, don’t you?

And why would Putin be “playing along” with a globalist plan to kill off or sicken most of his own countrymen if he were also very keen on resisting the globalists? Wouldn’t he need the rest of the country to back him up? It just makes no sense whatsoever.

les online
les online
May 9, 2023 2:44 AM

Ukraine – a glimpse at Russia’s future ?

‘At the present, the Russian forces seem unlikely to be defeated, at least by the Ukrainians. Meanwhile, the closer a Russian victory, the greater the prospect of full-scale imperialist military intervention.’
https://consortiumnews.com/2023/05/08/ukraines-big-mistake

der einzige
der einzige
May 9, 2023 12:16 AM

a few words about the source of Waggamnan’s information: “Lastly, I had mentioned Strelkov earlier. I wanted to add something: in light of certain 2D Bloggers using Strelkov as their most authoritative source to ‘prove’ that Russia is losing, I thought it would be enlightening to remind people how utterly laughable Strelkov’s prediction accuracy has been. Here’s a few of his ‘greatest hits’: 1. In 2016-2017, he stated that Russia would definitely lose in Syria. Russian airforce, he said, proved useless and was unable to create any initiative at all (despite the fact that it single handedly destroyed all of the ISIS Caliphate). 2. After losing in Syria, he said that Putin would be overthrown and Russia would entirely collapse. 3. Months ago, he stated that Bakhmut could never be taken by Russia and in fact, after Winter it would fall back into AFU’s hands as there was no way… Read more »

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 9, 2023 8:48 AM
Reply to  der einzige

Yes, I read the article before and it seems Strelkov hasn’t watched the Dirty Harry film with the famous line “ a man has got to know his limitations “.

mgeo
mgeo
May 9, 2023 9:18 AM
Reply to  der einzige

If this is correct, then Waggaman picked a questionable source. However, the bulk of the critcisms listed are sound.

MLS
MLS
May 9, 2023 10:50 AM
Reply to  der einzige

Yet another person choosing to discredit the man and not his argument. I’m starting to think Strelkov’s facts might be pretty bullet proof

der einzige
der einzige
May 9, 2023 11:22 AM
Reply to  MLS

What kind of arguments does Girkin have?
Russia doesn’t wage war like the US?
The war is taking place in Russian-speaking areas
that he doesn’t use state-of-the-art weapons?
he uses as much as he needs, the rest is waiting for NATO
90% of this war is in economics and geopolitics
changes can be observed on a regular basis or read Waggamnan’s Russophobic scribbles

Tesco Shopping Trolley
Tesco Shopping Trolley
May 9, 2023 11:51 AM
Reply to  der einzige

If he’s using as much as he needs why isn’t he winning, or even out of the Donbass, after 16 months?

If 90% of the war is economic and geopolitics why is Putin paying Ukraine for gas transit thereby financing them to keep the war going?

der einzige
der einzige
May 9, 2023 12:27 PM

This is not a turf war. Russia has already crushed two armies of Ukraine, in a moment they will crush a third. Ukraine lost the war a long time ago, it exists only thanks to the massive support of NATO.
Sells gas so why not pay? Not everyone is a thief like a “golden billion”. Maybe ask why your government says it doesn’t buy gas or oil from Russia but buys it through intermediaries.
Who is collapsing economically Russia or the West? Who has the resources? Who is winning?

Tesco Shopping Trolley
Tesco Shopping Trolley
May 9, 2023 2:05 PM
Reply to  der einzige

It’s not a turf war? Ok, what is it?

Why did Putin send any troops in at all if it’s not a turf war?

How is he planning to de-nazify Ukraine without taking any of the territory? Is he just gonna ask them politely to leave?

Why not pay? Because if you send money to a regime you’re at war with you’re basically paying them to kill your soldiers. That’s why bloody not you muppet.

der einzige
der einzige
May 9, 2023 2:43 PM

Why should he occupy the territory? Since they go themselves politely to the meat grinder. Russia is at home, it does not have to wage a guerrilla war as the US wanted to get it into.
The sum for gas transmission is only a small part of what you earn on gas sold. So from another perspective, Russia gets more for killing Western Nazis

paul
paul
May 9, 2023 3:19 PM

Why did Putin send in troops?
He didn’t want even more NATO missile bases right on Moscow’s doorstep.
Because the Ukronazis had just fired 2,000 shells at Donbas civilians and were about to ply their ethnic cleansing trade there.

Hannah
Hannah
May 10, 2023 6:01 AM
Reply to  paul

But the only way to prevent shells being fired into Donbass is to occupy the territory from which the shells are being fired. So, why is he making no attempt to do that?

And do you see how unclear the aims seem to be? Is he going in to de-nazify Ukraine? Or is he going in to prevent Ukraine shelling Donbass? Or both?

And how is either agenda served by refusing to advance his troops or by undermanning them and underarming them so they can’t advance?

paul
paul
May 12, 2023 12:22 PM
Reply to  Hannah

Maybe Putin is just a total wimp who doesn’t relish slaughtering people. Not a real man at all. Should have just hired Stallone or Schwarzenegger to do the job. They would have sorted it all out in half an hour.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 12, 2023 12:35 PM
Reply to  paul

I would think ‘real men’ would put fires out, not leave them smouldering to potentially flare up again worse than before. Try not to be such a fan boy. It’s silly.

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 9, 2023 2:40 PM
Reply to  MLS

He has not exactly inspired confidence in him has he !

Judging by his track record as an analyst.

He reminds me of the saying people had about Richard Mulhous Nixon, “ would you buy a second hand car off this man? “

paul
paul
May 9, 2023 11:19 AM
Reply to  der einzige

The Washington/ Brussels Regime Change Brigade employ and lavishly finance two separate groups of stooges and useful idiots in their efforts to undermine and subjugate Russia. The Navalny/ Pussy Riot/ Khordokovsky/ Browder “liberal/ human rights/ anti corruption/ LGBT” wing. They foment street riots and protests and carry out obscene stunts in public. They delegitimise elections and politics in Russia, wail endlessly about alleged human rights abuses and agitate for foreign sanctions. They make inflated claims about corruption, casually declaring that Putin has embezzled $40 billion, or $200 billion, or whatever figure they dream up. This is all accepted as holy writ in western countries and endlessly parroted by an obliging MSM. Mega swindlers and financial criminals like Browder and Khordokovsky are touted as born again democracy crusaders. The second group are the Strelkov type uber nationalist, uber patriotic right wing, who engage in pure gaslighting. Putin is really a traitor… Read more »

Tesco Shopping Trolley
Tesco Shopping Trolley
May 9, 2023 11:57 AM
Reply to  paul

Problem for you is Putin really is selling out his people – over the covid scam. He’s coerced them to get poison jabs, fucked with their heads thru fear porn, killed and maimed God knows how many with Sputnik V, while simultaneously kissing up to WEF and WHO. The boy’s got form! You can easily get why some people think he’s dicking about in Ukraine for the same reason.

paul
paul
May 9, 2023 3:24 PM

I couldn’t care less, we’re talking about Ukraine, not covid.
Maybe he kicks his dog and cheats at cards as well, but while we’re talking about Ukraine let’s stick to the subject.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 9, 2023 12:20 PM
Reply to  paul

So Strelkov is on Soros’ payroll as well? Really? Do you actually believe that?

der einzige
der einzige
May 9, 2023 12:47 PM
Reply to  paul

I agree with you Paul. The old proverb of the bees says: neither to the left… nor to the right… freely… It’s nice to see that not everyone here has gone crazy yet

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 9, 2023 12:18 PM
Reply to  der einzige

Attacking Strelkov personally is not an argument against his points about the SMO, and it’s not much of a defense of Putin’s strategy — whatever it may be. Yes, we all know that Strelkov is ‘Col. Blackpill,’ but the fact still remains that, more than a year later, the war in Ukraine seems to grind on to no real purpose.

der einzige
der einzige
May 9, 2023 12:39 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Maybe you think so. I think it’s different. I don’t recall your impatience after 20 years of war in Afghanistan or Iraq or Syria? So a year is a long time? If you look at the world around you, a lot has changed. Iran has reconciled with Sudi Arabia, France is getting the fuck out of Africa, NATO is getting weaker every day and enlargement with Nazi Scandinavians won’t help. Non-dollar trade is on the rise. BRICS too. Yemen may have a chance to breathe a sigh of relief, if only for a moment. e.t.c.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 10, 2023 12:31 PM
Reply to  der einzige

I don’t recall your impatience after 20 years of war in Afghanistan or Iraq or Syria?

Huh? I was opposed to those stupid, illegal wars right from the very start! ‘Impatience’ never entered into it.

Dinsdale
Dinsdale
May 8, 2023 11:32 PM

So, are you saying the whole war is FAKE?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 9, 2023 1:00 AM
Reply to  Dinsdale

I don’t believe the author draws a conclusion. Why not read the 39 questions and form your own opinion? We don’t need to distill everything down to easy soundbite form, do we? Or do we?

Mr Y
Mr Y
May 9, 2023 5:25 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

> We don’t need to distill everything down to easy soundbite form, do we?

Like everything is the conspiracy to rule them all?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 12, 2023 6:24 PM
Reply to  Mr Y

Discounting evidence with appeals to incredulity is flawed, troll-like reasoning.

Remember Covid?

There were loads of people doing it then too.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 9, 2023 12:30 PM
Reply to  Dinsdale

Not exactly fake; just not honest. Real people actually are dying and being maimed, but the true object of the war seems not to be ‘victory’ in any classic sense. I’ll let Orwell explain: The war, therefore if we judge it by the standards of previous wars, is merely an imposture. It is like the battles between certain ruminant animals whose horns are incapable of hurting one another. But though it is unreal it is not meaningless. It eats up the surplus of consumable goods, and it helps to preserve the special mental atmosphere that the hierarchical society needs. War, it will be seen, is now a purely internal affair. In the past, the ruling groups of all countries, although they might recognize their common interest and therefore limit the destructiveness of war, did fight against one another, and the victor always plundered the vanquished. In our own day they… Read more »

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 8, 2023 11:03 PM

Thanks to Raggaman confirming what was suspected. An aspect not much discussed is the horny snobbishism for everything European culture even Americans have. With Russia you could call it self-hating Russians. Their constant mentioning of “our equal partners”, and “we always wanted to be like you”, licking everything bad up whoppers, . They are simply selling their own butt and real personality in exchange for crumbs in order to be allowed into the holy fine European club. “My exchange name is Stanislav Jones, therefore I am like you”. “Yandex is one of the largest I-companies in Europe”, “Sber bank is an European bank”. Russian threesomes, porn videos, swinger clubs, CEO, CFO. “We are like you”. To be snobbish means normally to snob up to Royals, want a more interesting name, Lord this and that, but these horny third country nations like Russia snobs down. They think its VIP to change… Read more »

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 9, 2023 1:41 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

It was actually a Allied & British European Concession oweing to cultural generational German people in those Slavic regions. Towards the wars ending many of those German people were forced out and massacred by Partisans, men women and children including rape.
>deal< excuse me again. what 'France and UK deal…furthermore those regions also produced German cotton wool farming food local trading and regular Wermacht as they also culturally asscomplised during the 'ww1' periods Second Reich. 1914-18.

rechenmacher
rechenmacher
May 9, 2023 8:53 AM
Reply to  Clive Williams

They were actually forced out after the war had ended. My grandma and her two school girl daughters had their belongings packed on an ox cart in December 1945. I still have thier ‘refugee suitcase’ a wooden box with handles to be carried by two people.
I love it when I see Ukrainian cars on the autobahn: Volvo, BMW, Mercedes, Hyundai.

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
May 8, 2023 10:55 PM

Have to say I was asking these questions back in spring/summer 2022, and got a lot of derision for my trouble. It’s good to see someone closer to boots on the ground finally speaking out. This has been a weird war from day one. Anyone who’s been in the armed forces or even done service in the territorials, anyone who’s studied warfare and combat techniques would tell you the same if being honest. Anyone remember I used to post asking for any photos of state of the art Russian military hardware provably deployed in Ukraine? NEVER got any. NEVER found any online. – NOW WE KNOW WHY. It’s not there! I also asked for any images of large scale battles or troop deployment, – NEVER got any. NEVER found any online. Tons of “video game” type footage of a couple of distant armoured vehicles being taken out. Tons of footage… Read more »

der einzige
der einzige
May 8, 2023 11:05 PM

I think you were color blind when you took that pill

and these are dummy graves?
https://twitter.com/ChrisMc45814091/status/1652520450248015873

ChilePepper
ChilePepper
May 8, 2023 11:26 PM

Thank you. I also noticed and wondered on the z and v marks. Seemed strange for vehicles of official military going to battle.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 9, 2023 12:41 PM