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A Pandemic of Narcissistic Abuse

Lucy Davies

Narcissism and its associated abuse; control, manipulation, greed, exploitation of power, an audacious sense of entitlement to name a few traits, has been the bedrock of our societies for thousands of years.

Different people will relate to it from different experiences of various aspects of life, but whether these manipulative, conscience-void, power-grabbers are family members, friends, romantic partners, work colleagues, or psychopathic government overlords, the pattern is the same.

And it’s rife.

It’s been drip fed from the top down, through generations, families, schools, media etc.; rewarded and encouraged at every turn. It’s been normalised and accepted.

And we’ve allowed it.

Now we’re seeing the catastrophic effects of how this can be become so out of control that it manifests as tyrannical chaos on a global scale. And yet still be so vehemently denied.

Their insidious head fuckery can bend our brains into doing all kinds of crazy stuff, get us to passionately defend it despite it ruining us, then adamantly deny the damage when it’s staring us right in the face… before obliviously begging for more.

The nature of narcissistic abuse means that whilst you might know something’s very ‘off’, your mind has been so programmed that you can no longer believe your own eyes, ears or mind.

As things appear to be getting worse, the temptation is to dig an ever deepening hole to bury our heads in, but the time is fast approaching when the bubble of illusion will burst completely, and any remaining denial, spiritual bypassing or cognitive dissonance will be forced to the forefront to be acknowledged and dealt with.

This book is for that time.

When you see it, but still doubt your own eyes, ears, mind and intuition. When you need short, sharp validations. Validations that yes – they would do that. They did do that. And they will continue for as long as we allow it.

As the world is now going through an inevitable, unstoppable transition, where light is being shone on all corners of darkness to expose what’s been hidden, covered up and lied about for so long, the evidence of this silent and invisible abuse is coming to light.

It seems that this generation is where it stops. Where we make a stand and say no more.

In order to do this, first we need to see it, then we need to acknowledge it, admit it, refuse to be talked out of it, validate it, then finally break free.

This involves learning to listen to and trust our own instincts rather than outsourcing to others, valuing ourselves as independent thinkers, calling it out, saying no and extracting ourselves from the relationships and/or systems.

It can be a shocking, traumatic, uncomfortable, lengthy, inconvenient and disturbing process, but is ultimately liberating. We can put it off, deny it and make excuses for it all we like, but it’s not going anywhere of its own accord.

That’s where I hope this book will be of value.

Narcissism is by its very nature impossible to prove. Therefore it helps to be aware of the classic traits. To see the big picture behind the behaviour. To know that there is no point fighting with a narcissist. It will help you to recognise, see clearly, eradicate doubts, hold conviction and ultimately make choices to help you live freely, outside the clutches of these toxic controllers.

An invisible and insidious abuse; narcissism is hugely misunderstood, rarely talked about and often belittled, though it is very real and what I believe to be at the very crux of what we’re seeing play out in the world today.

Much to the disbelief and torture of the narcissists themselves, we’re about to witness what happens when it all turns on its head. When their reign comes to an end & decency gets its turn. Like the fall of Atlantis in reverse.

Wherever we are on the journey, we are ALL waking up to and/or recovering from narcisstic abuse. This book is about acknowledging where we’ve been, working through where we are, and then looking to the future.

A future where we and our minds are truly free.

A Pandemic of Narcissistic Abuse is available in both paperback and hardback through Amazon or Lucy’s own website.
Lucy is a naturopathic nutritionist with a love of writing, cooking, fermenting, energy & sound healing, & cutting through the crap. You can get in touch with her through her website, or read more of her thoughts on her blog.

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sherkying
sherkying
May 20, 2023 7:09 PM

Narcissist;Do we all suffer from this in some times of our life??

Margie Blum
Margie Blum
May 18, 2023 12:38 PM

It seems to me that every generation has people who see this and the rest don’t, no matter now hard it gets pushed in their faces. It would be beyond great thought, if this was the time it go exposed and then ended on this planet.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 17, 2023 1:08 PM

I’ve bought your book, Lucy, good luck with sales. I’d never heard of narcissism as an actual condition until about 7 years ago (now it seems all you hear about) when a close friend who’s since sadly died was left in a horrible way by her husband. She was utterly devastated and another friend suggested her husband might have Narcissistic Personality Disorder. When she read up on it, it was obvious he met all the criteria for being a covert narcissist. He’d had virtually everyone fooled including me. I thought my friend was so lucky to have him … but it turned out although it took quite a long time – they’d been together 20 years – he wasn’t the nice guy he seemed at all. I feel sure her death although it happened quite a few years later might have been not happened without that trauma.

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
May 16, 2023 7:14 PM

“In order to do this, first we need to see it, then we need to acknowledge it, admit it, refuse to be talked out of it, validate it, then finally break free.
This involves learning to listen to and trust our own instincts rather than outsourcing to others, valuing ourselves as independent thinkers, calling it out, saying no and extracting ourselves from the relationships and/or systems.”
We are being programmed, mind entrained and gas lighted to passively accept the insane “new normal”. One of the objectives of those who are doing this to us is to make us believe what they are doing to us is real, this experience must be reality and we are encouraged to doubt our sanity/grasp of reality.
There is no incentive for most folks to wake up because when you do you have to do something about it! Cowards pretend not to know that we are being targeted for death and pushed into a dystopian “existence” what they call post human. The overlords have a god complex they are completely immoral and psychopathic and as such they feel no remorse, guilt or responsibility for their actions and they believe they are immune to the negative consequences of their wickedness and that their New World Order will allow them to reign supreme as immortal gods. That is how sick they ar.

Penelope
Penelope
May 16, 2023 6:03 PM

I don’t know. When I see Jeffrey Dahmer writ large, the first thing I think of is NOT “narcissism.” And when I think of narcissism I don’t think of murder & tyranny.

Simon
Simon
May 16, 2023 6:11 PM
Reply to  Penelope

Just word-searched the article, thought I’d missed something. It doesn’t mention Jeffrey fucken Dahmer, so what are yez on about?

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
May 16, 2023 10:14 PM
Reply to  Simon

She’s saying that’s what’s happening in the world goes beyond mere “narcissism,” and is better described by psychopathy or outright evil.

Penelope
Penelope
May 17, 2023 9:22 PM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

Thanks, Pilgrim. Quite so. I just wouldn’t describe the murderous covid project as “narcissistic.”

Vagabard
Vagabard
May 16, 2023 4:58 PM

It would probably help to define what ‘narcissistic abuse’ actually is. How narcissistic abuse differs from standard abuse, for example. Parts of the article seem to equate it with gas-lighting.

Narcissism by itself isn’t a form of abuse. Someone staring in a mirror all day at their own reflection might be vain, proud, deluded etc, but isn’t necessarily abusing anyone. 

Likewise, those filled with self-hatred also abuse. Arguably more so. School shootouts generally end with the demise of the shooter. Which isn’t generally the final act of someone consumed with self-love.

Or maybe it’s self-admiration to the degree that all others are lesser mortals and hence can be treated as such? Pride in other words. Accompanied by a power drive. The desire to lord it over others.

Or a lack of empathy. Which a number of serial killers seem to suffer from. The inability to understand other’s emotions.

A more precise definition is required

Human values
Human values
May 16, 2023 6:52 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Narcissism is like any other word – it can be abused.

When the abuser abuses a word, the word gets twisted, its meaning changed, and it may then become the exact opposite of what was the original meaning. But as words are arbitrary, the meaning isn’t. The true meaning exists beyond words.

Here’s a definition for you:

Narcissism is the continuum or spectrum of everything that is false, wrong, or illusion. The narcissistic ego, the false self, is fighting for its survival, but we know it’s already finished.
The evil systems abusing power are mere manifestations of narcissism. 

Vagabard
Vagabard
May 16, 2023 7:25 PM
Reply to  Human values

‘Narcissistic abuse’ then becomes ‘deceptive abuse’. In contrast to, say, ‘non-deceptive abuse’; abuse without any false pretexts as to why.

The difference between clobbering someone whilst telling them a lie, or doing the same whilst speaking the truth.

I’m not sure which one is better from the victim’s perspective  🙄 

Human values
Human values
May 16, 2023 7:48 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

It doesn’t matter what they say, think, or believe. Narcissists, including all those psychopaths and monsters, don’t know the truth, acknowledge good, or do justice.

They are in darkness. It doesn’t much matter if they are ignorant or not, what they believe or not, what they think they support or not. What matters is the truth, and the Light or Spirit of Truth. All human beings know that truth is better than lies, that truth is actually reality, while lies are not. All human beings know that good is always better than bad or evil.

There are no victims when there’s no abuse.

Human values
Human values
May 16, 2023 7:07 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

All abuse is abuse, and there’s nothing good about narcissistic abuse. And it doesn’t matter who does it. When someone is trying to murder you, you know it’s the enemy.

“Abusive relationships can arise anywhere – with partners, friends, families, workplaces or governments.”

You may be in an abusive relationship if they
1. Stop you from seeing friends and family
2. Won’t let you go out without permission
3. Tell you what to wear
4. Monitor your phone or emails
5. Control the finances, or won’t let you work
6. Control what you read, watch, and say
7. Monitor everything you do
8. Punish you for breaking the rules, but the rules keep changing!
9. Tell you it is for your own good, and that they know better
10. Don’t allow you to question it
11. Tell you you’re crazy, and no one agrees with you
12. Call you names or shame you for being stupid or selfish
13. Gaslight you, challenge your memory of events, make you doubt yourself
14. Dismiss your opinions
15. Play the victim. If things go wrong, it’s all your fault

https://www.aier.org/article/fifteen-signs-youre-in-an-abusive-relationship-with-the-government/

Here are examples of how the government has clearly been the abuser. It’s been abuser of justice, of power, of everything good.

And it’s tried to kill us in order to steal from us. To gain more power.

Vagabard
Vagabard
May 16, 2023 7:40 PM
Reply to  Human values

Most parents would likely score in double digits with that test

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 16, 2023 9:55 PM
Reply to  Human values

Just three months to flatten granny!

Claims of consensus are defied by petitions, such as the Great Barrington Declaration – now signed by nearly 40,000 medical practitioners, over 13,000 medical and public health scientists, and 700,000+ members of the public – which show that you are not alone in recognizing the substantial adverse effects (and limited success) of lockdowns.

https://www.aier.org/article/the-great-barrington-declaration-is-not-saying-lock-up-grandma

“You want to lock up grandma?!”

Based upon certain media coverage, one would think that the Great Barrington Declaration advocates essentially imprisoning the elderly — but surely, it doesn’t. “When people say ‘oh you can’t seal up 60 year-olds.’ Well of course not. Not forever. That would be a very drastic thing to do,” says Sunetra Gupta, “but for three months rather than, you know, stopping children from going to school for a very long period of time. That’s the tradeoff to consider.” Yet much of the press and lockdown proponents remain convinced that the Declaration discriminates against and singles out the elderly, disabled, and sick to the benefit of the young, able, and healthy.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
May 16, 2023 8:21 AM

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
John 8:7

Raz Putin
Raz Putin
May 16, 2023 4:27 AM

Beware the narcissistic pit trap. Like quicksand the harder you fight the quicker you go down.

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
May 16, 2023 1:40 AM

narcism or extreme buffoonery in action, 1min 41sec, on why Australia is committing $400 billion in a new defence strategy:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sgspkxfkS4ky

Balkydj
Balkydj
May 18, 2023 12:35 PM
Reply to  GR-Watch

Classic Ozzyman logic … with Oirish riverdance & rippin’ facetious humour, brought to
An abrupt pause for serious consideration.

Gotta’ have Nukes ?

Obey thy master ?
Master your self.
Do the ‘math’ …
Cui Bono,U2 ?

correspondencecommitttee
correspondencecommitttee
May 16, 2023 1:32 AM

I take it as axiomatic, or a tautology, that organization of human society upon hierarchies of power is basically abusive. I also consider myself still subject to delusion, hopefully in no more than trace amounts from previous conditioning (?), that this setup, relative to alternative ways of being, can become so (ab)normalized, like the polluted air we breathe, as to appear ‘the way things are’ (God’s Law, Human Nature, Science…). 

Central to the psychopathy of people in positions of power over others is the ability to define what counts for real, no matter how absurd it seems. Relative to whether or not there are reality checks on the abuser, this arbitrary and unaccountable logic leads to lying all too naturally. Controlling narratives, down to deciding whatever trivia serves as the topic to distract from elephants in the room, becomes a constant exercise in gaslighting, from domestic households to halls of state. 

I’ve already used an ample supply of language associated with psychology, but for the most part that’s just another word for morality, which draws insight from social sciences apart from pretensions of priestly castes claiming authority over common people’s perceptions. Professional classes are, metaphorically speaking of course, one of the most likely places to find narcissistic personality traits or disorders, as in many if not most cases of people paid to manage others adopting a self-important status or sense of superiority. Roles performed by ranks of the medical bureaucracy are an all too relevant example of the institutionalized abuse passing through their chains of command, just doing their jobs, particularly under the indoctrinated presumption that they are in the know compared to those for whom they perform ‘services’ as to legitimate heteronomous decisions for their ‘welfare’.  

Possessing power to ‘commit’ people to carceral conditions, including chemical restraints, the psychiatric industry certainly is among the preeminent gaslighting operations of enlightened progress in social systems of abuse. By its very nature, narcissism or any other verdict of disease remains impossible to prove to protect its massive fraud behind toxic mimicry of expertise  To critically review the history of its Bible, the DSM, is enough to arrive at a definite diagnosis of insanity at work in pseudoscientific superstition rivaling religious ritualization of opiates for the masses. To be sure, the sleight-of-hand and snake-oil cons often enough boil down to the bottom line of running an extortion racket, whether paying one’s way into heaven or mental health.  

The corrupt and criminal practices of power are so extensive and intricate as to lend themselves to analysis from all sorts of angles. Suffice here simply to say with others in their own words that adjustment to a sick society is no indication of health, and if anything constitutes a kind of hell on earth.

Assuming the impossibility of ‘proving’ power for what it is seems to succumb to its own self-serving illusion of inevitability and invincibility, and our powerlessness. No, there’s no reasoning, or bargaining, with abusers insofar as they’ve constructed a fortress of deceit and can keep getting away with rationalizing irrationality. But that just means the rules of the game are rigged, just like the tables are always turned, to keep us bound to the abuser, even blaming ourselves for trauma translated into effects upon us as problems for which we’re primarily responsible and in need of care or cure from experts.  

It’s therefore all the more to the point of self-defense and liberation from oppression that we find ways to fight the powers that shouldn’t be on other grounds of our own choosing, and collectively create a new society within the shell of the old. How else will we be where it stops unless we form such revolutionary resistance and solidarity?  

futurist
futurist
May 16, 2023 10:53 AM

Good comment.

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
May 16, 2023 12:56 AM

writer and journalist Caitlin Johnstone is describing this US-led civilization as ‘mentally ill’, citing nuclear brinkmanship and a crazy mass-scale brainwashing.

Simon
Simon
May 16, 2023 1:30 PM
Reply to  GR-Watch

Ah Caitlin Johnson, paid $5,000 a month on Patreon alone to talk shite and dodge the covid question.

I wonder who’s footing most of that bill lads.

I’d rather have teeth pulled than waste my time reading anything she’s got to say

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
May 17, 2023 12:45 PM
Reply to  Simon

C. Johnstone seems to recognise the new normal as awful as alternative media does. are there controversies about her?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 17, 2023 12:51 PM
Reply to  GR-Watch

She avoided the real issues at all costs, to the point her reputation was damaged irreparably in the eyes of many. I don’t know what her stance is now and personally couldn’t care less. Whether or not she is, in fact, controlled, she did the best job of looking that way.

GR-Watch
GR-Watch
May 17, 2023 8:14 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

great reply, thanks!

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 17, 2023 8:29 PM
Reply to  GR-Watch

Thank you! 🙂

Gonzogone
Gonzogone
May 15, 2023 11:13 PM

OK, how about male genital mutilation for a start?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 15, 2023 7:52 PM

Why is OffG shilling for psychiatry?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 15, 2023 9:52 PM

What now?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 15, 2023 10:57 PM

Psychiatry is the foundational technofascism – predating that of vaccines and viruses. They’ll let you choose not to get jabbed, but for making that choice, they’ll declare you “mentally ill” and a danger to society. That declaration will be made on the arbitrary say-so of a whitecoat. You’ll then be consigned to a treatment centre and all further choices will be made on your behalf.

I’ve been posting on this for the last three years – regularly quoting Szasz’s warning. A year ago I called out Malone’s promotion of “psychosis” – a promotion echoed at OffG. Thankfully, Peter Breggin has also called it out for what it is (see below).

Thomas Szasz – New Preface to The Myth of Mental Illness (2010)

Formerly, when Church and State were allied, people accepted theological justifications for state-sanctioned coercion. Today, when Medicine and the State are allied, people accept therapeutic justifications for state-sanctioned coercion. This is how, some two hundred years ago, psychiatry became an arm of the coercive apparatus of the state. And this is why today all of medicine threatens to become transformed from personal therapy into political tyranny.

https://www.szasz.com/Szasz50newpreface.pdf
https://www.szasz.com

https://www.americaoutloud.com/breggins-prioritize-free-speech-above-self-interest-in-25-million-lawsuit-by-robert-malone
by Peter Breggin MD & Ginger Breggin (primary author)
Dec 4, 2022

Breggin: The Danger of the Diagnosis of Mass Formation Psychosis

We sounded the alarm about the danger of creating a new diagnosis labeling “masses” of humans as psychotic — the informal diagnosis created by Dr. Robert Malone called “Mass Formation Psychosis. That phrase is Dr. Malone’s creation and is based on the work of his friend Mattias Desmet, author of the book The Psychology of Totalitarianism. While Desmet’s term of Mass Formation attempts to describe what he believes is a sociological phenomenon, Dr. Malone’s term of Mass Formation Psychosis (the psychosis term added by Dr. Malone) is a diagnosis building upon already formalized diagnoses of psychosis. The fact that a medical doctor is creating a diagnostic term lends gravitas and further potential for abuse against COVID resisters and other reformers, and any other groups the authorities want to further control.

The term diagnosis is defined as (a) the art or act of identifying a disease from its signs and symptoms and (b) the decision reached by diagnosis. Physicians making a diagnostic pronouncement have a special authority based upon their training and certification.

Because psychiatry as a profession has been used in many countries and during many decades as the “enforcer” of compliance and because we have the documentation and knowledge of this psychiatric abuse in greater detail than perhaps any other person and certainly any other reformer, we felt duty-bound to sound the alarm about this dangerous diagnostic trend of psychiatrically labeling groups of people as psychotic.

To this day, psychiatry is continuing to be used as a weapon to silence those who are trying to exercise their own free autonomy and protect the autonomy and sovereignty of others. We continue to wonder why Dr. Malone is promoting this concept of mass formation psychosis with such fervor. It appears that our criticism of this concept is why he is going to such extremes to put an end to our speaking out.

Ironically, our act of raising the alarm on a new psychiatric weapon to silence dissent has resulted in another kind of weapon being used to silence us.

R Anand
R Anand
May 16, 2023 4:48 PM

“Psychiatry is the foundational technofascism – predating that of vaccines and viruses. They’ll let you choose not to get jabbed, but for making that choice, they’ll declare you “mentally ill” and a danger to society. That declaration will be made on the arbitrary say-so of a whitecoat. You’ll then be consigned to a treatment centre and all further choices will be made on your behalf.”

Well said!

I also feel nothing is permanent and locked in stone. A so-called “narcissist” today may not be so tomorrow, and vice versa. Further, someone may be “narcissitic” in one or few matters but not all matters.

The field of psychiatry is indeed deceptive and harmful.

The pro-vaccine people/industry call us “narcissists”, just like we get called “conspiracy theorists” at the drop of a hat in a discussion with colleagues, friends and family.

These terms are meaningless. I hold no grudge on those who use it on me.

What matters is specific things we do for a specific development. As I said in the beginning of this post, nothing is permanent.

I just keep supplying information to those people which their smartphone apps/TVs/MSM rarely provides them.

Simon
Simon
May 16, 2023 1:25 PM

I mean they’re obviously not “shilling for psychiatry” just by publishing this little article, that’s just ridiculous, so why are you saying it? I mean if this was your first comment it would at least look organic, but like you have a couple of comments further down where you talk at length about narcissism etc, then out the blue you come out with this, it looks so fake and forced.

And why is there this feeling of a little group of people on here who’ll thumb up any ole shite as long as it’s complaining about this site? It just bothers me. I guess they must be in someone’s crosshairs. Next time they get taken down will they ever come back? God knows

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 16, 2023 4:32 PM
Reply to  Simon

Did you not read my post? I stated:

I’ve been posting on this for the last three years – regularly quoting Szasz’s warning. A year ago I called out Malone’s promotion of “psychosis” – a promotion echoed at OffG. Thankfully, Peter Breggin has also called it out for what it is.

Like most of the commenters, whether wittingly or otherwise, OffG is shilling for psychiatry. They are doing so by validating and promoting psychiatric concepts – and by supporting, implicitly or explicitly, psychiatry’s claim to divinational powers (a.k.a. “diagnosis”). Not only are they using the master’s tools, but they’re helping to build the gulag! Similarly, a closely related “master’s house” which the vast majority of supposed dissidents are shilling for, is that of “Public Health” – being a collectivist vehicle of enslavement invented by H.G. Wells et al.

From 18 months ago:
https://off-guardian.org/2021/12/04/watch-mass-formation-the-psychology-of-the-pandemic

Lost in a dark wood – Dec 4, 2021 10:25 PM

“They’re trying to kill me,” Yossarian told him calmly.
“No one’s trying to kill you,” Clevinger cried.
“Then why are they shooting at me?” Yossarian asked.
“They’re shooting at everyone,” Clevinger answered. “They’re trying to kill everyone.”
“And what difference does that make?”
— Catch-22

If you were to believe that Gates & Co are intent on killing you, then you meet the official definition of “psychotic”. Actually, you’re officially psychotic if a person in a white coat says you’re psychotic, but notions about a depopulation agenda and such like are going to tilt the assessment in that direction.

https://www.nhs.uk/mental-health/conditions/psychosis/overview
The 2 main symptoms of psychosis are:
hallucinations – where a person hears, sees and, in some cases, feels, smells or tastes things that do not exist outside their mind but can feel very real to the person affected by them; a common hallucination is hearing voices
delusions – where a person has strong beliefs that are not shared by others; a common delusion is someone believing there’s a conspiracy to harm them

Note that “delusion” in this context is defined not by reference to objective reality (whatever that might be), but in terms of commonly shared beliefs. Hence, the belief that vaccines (especially mRNA jabs) are often harmful may at some point be classed as a psychotic delusion. Furthermore, since it is the divergence from the majority which is considered to be a sign of psychosis, the term “mass psychosis” is an oxymoron if applied to an entire population.

A Cautionary Tale for Pushers of “Public Health”
(h/t G.K. Chesterton)

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 16, 2023 5:25 PM

I think your attitude is OTT and uncharitable. Using your tangential logic I could equally well accuse you of shilling for pretty much everyone who’d prefer to see OffG’s reputation tarnished, by bowling in with such a sweeping denunciation. Of course you weren’t doing this, you were just a bit heavy handed about something you’re passionate about. So please communicate diplomatically in future, without leaping to conclusions.

I personally think just because something can be weaponised doesn’t mean it IS a weapon. Actually psychology is a powerful tool when it isn’t being abused.

I’m really looking forward to reading Lucy’s book. Psychology has helped me immeasurably to become a better, more edified person, just as it has for many people, and there’s no taking that away from me, no matter what you say lol

Please, no long replies, you’ve had many inches already to state your position.Just a few lines if you feel the need, no longer than this comment, and then let’s move on. Thanks. A2

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 16, 2023 5:42 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Please, no long replies

We are facing the extinction of humanity. The warnings have been issued by the likes of Swift, Blake, Chesterton, Szasz and Breggin. These are not “OTT” statements. This is real!

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
May 16, 2023 11:27 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

“I personally think just because something can be weaponised doesn’t mean it IS a weapon. Actually psychology is a powerful tool when it isn’t being abused.”

If psychology can be used against you, it can also be used for you. Might as well benefit from it.

Simon
Simon
May 16, 2023 6:22 PM

Sure well you don’t think much of psychiatry and that’s fair enough. I’m not asking you why you don’t like the article I’m asking you why you think someone who has some opinion you don’t like is automatically a shill. It’s so dogmatic don’t you see.

Why do they have to be called a shill just for publishing a little article? Why not keep it nice and open and friendly and just say you don’t like the article and maybe have a good talk with someone who disagrees.

I reckon being extreme and judgmental is exactly what the bastards want from us and relentlessly attacking one small site like this every time it says something you don’t like is a weird way to defend humanity.

Human values
Human values
May 16, 2023 8:02 PM

Their opinions, no matter how many white coats they wear, don’t matter. Truth matters. Life matters. People, human beings matter. Humanity matters. Good matters.

Psychiatry is not the only problem in the problem of evil. 

syl shawcross
syl shawcross
May 15, 2023 7:49 PM

Thank you Lucy for your work. It is so important and relevant. Run like the wind from a narcissist because they will try and own you, control you and ultimately break you if you aren’t aware. They spend their lives feeding their ultimate selfishness by catering to unresolved personal psychopathy. They likely will never see it. Work like yours matters deeply so thank you again.

sandy
sandy
May 15, 2023 7:15 PM

Lucy, check out what Marshall McLuhan had to say about technology being a narcissistic artificial empowerment that locks onto the ego of an individual like a virus. It’s reflected in the power of the marketing term “inevitable progress” in facilitating the adoption/acceptance of technology. He describes this process in detail in “Gutenberg Galaxy” (1962) and “Understanding Media” (1964) from long historical precedents. Every Western civ resident should read those two books to understand technologically enabled human society. Imho.

Penelope
Penelope
May 17, 2023 9:37 PM
Reply to  sandy

technology being a narcissistic artificial empowerment”? Most definitely an empowerment. Artificial? I suppose that is meant as some sort of pejorative merely because our tools & technology don’t simply spring out of nature?

Silly. Wd McLuhan really have preferred to live in an unmodified state of nature?
Nor do I think that bettering your life is somehow “narcissistic.”

nylon
nylon
May 15, 2023 6:43 PM

Narcissism is a personality disorder that affect mostly men.
The female version of the same trouble is called histrionic personality disorder.
I don’t see that word in the article nor in the comments…

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 15, 2023 9:17 PM
Reply to  nylon

rumour has it that there’s a lot of histrionic personality disorder acquiring on only fans.

nylon
nylon
May 15, 2023 10:15 PM
Reply to  Kacsynski2

Same disorder, different tools.

They both are in cluster B,have no empaty,
very selfish,same potential for mental damage,
very entitled,
fake it well,
indifferent to your pain,
will screw your head,
no contact is the only way out.
Did you ever met one of these creatures?

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 15, 2023 10:39 PM
Reply to  nylon

Yes many.
Wondered what i was doing to attract them. The protest scene in the UK & beyond circa 2007 to this day appeaes to attract many of these types. As paradoxical as that might read.

Ended up researching the subject for about 8/9 yrs now.

Soz for the silly sarc. But think modern woman, some, are catching up with men on the narcissism front.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 16, 2023 2:37 PM
Reply to  nylon

I’ve only seen them on tv to be honest.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 16, 2023 2:32 PM
Reply to  nylon

Generation X are well aware of the old adage Men can be brutal Women can be cruel. Your description sounds on the button in my opinion.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 15, 2023 6:21 PM

Controlling or Coercive Behaviour (CCB)

Do you believe you may have been subject to a pattern of Controlling or Coercive Behaviour? If so, please review our handy checklist of behaviours which are commonly associated with CCB and consult the other guidance presented at the link below.

https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/controlling-or-coercive-behaviour-intimate-or-family-relationship
Section 76 Serious Crime Act 2015 (SCA 2015) created the offence of controlling or coercive behaviour in an intimate or family relationship (CCB). It can be tried summarily or on indictment and has a maximum penalty of five years’ imprisonment.

A pattern of CCB can be well established before a single incident is reported. In many cases the conduct might seem innocent – especially if considered in isolation of other incidents – and the victim may not be aware of, or be ready to acknowledge, abusive behaviour. The consideration of the cumulative impact of CCB and the pattern of behaviour within the context of the relationship is crucial. This approach will support the prosecutor to assess effectively whether a pattern of behaviour amounts to fear that violence will be carried out; or serious alarm or distress leading to a substantial adverse effect on usual day-to-day activities.

Building on examples within the Statutory Guidance Framework, relevant behaviour of the suspect can include:

– isolating a person from their friends and family
– depriving them of their basic needs
– monitoring their time
– monitoring a person via online communication tools or using spyware
– using digital systems such as smart devices or social media to coerce, control, or upset the victim including posting triggering material
– taking control over aspects of their everyday life, such as where they can go, who they can see, what to wear and when they can sleep – this can be intertwined with the suspect saying it is in their best interests, and ‘rewarding’ ‘good behaviour’ e.g. with gifts
– depriving them of access to support services, such as specialist support or medical services
– repeatedly putting them down such as telling them they are worthless
– enforcing rules and activity which humiliate, degrade or dehumanise the victim
– forcing the victim to take part in criminal activity such as shoplifting, neglect or abuse of children to encourage self-blame and prevent disclosure to authorities
– economic abuse including coerced debt, controlling spending/bank accounts/investments/mortgages/benefit payments
– controlling the ability to go to school or place of study
– taking wages, benefits or allowances
– threatening to hurt or kill
– threatening to harm a child
– threatening to reveal or publish private information
– threatening to hurt or physically harming a family pet
– assault
– physical intimidation e.g. blocking doors, clenching or shaking fists
– criminal damage (such as destruction of household goods)
– preventing a person from having access to transport or from working
– preventing a person from learning or using a language or making friends outside of their ethnic or cultural background
– family ‘dishonour’
– reputational damage
– sexual assault or threats of sexual assault
– reproductive coercion, including restricting a victim’s access to birth control, refusing to use a birth control method, forced pregnancy, forcing a victim to get an abortion, to undergo in vitro fertilisation (IVF) or other procedure, or denying access to such a procedure
– using substances such as alcohol or drugs to control a victim through dependency, or controlling their access to substances
– disclosure of sexual orientation
– disclosure of HIV status or other medical condition without consent
– limiting access to family, friends and finances
– withholding and/or destruction of the victim’s immigration documents, e.g. passports and visas
– threatening to place the victim in an institution against the victim’s will, e.g. care home, supported living facility, mental health facility, etc (particularly for disabled or elderly victims

Matt Black
Matt Black
May 15, 2023 5:30 PM
diane
diane
May 15, 2023 4:48 PM

I read, but rarely write on this site anymore. No, psychological violence will not disappear. And yes, indeed it is at the root of all manmade problems. In the financial capitalist society we live in it is enmeshed in the fabric of society. There are other forms of personality disorder and its not for us to diagnose anyone. Even specialists disagree on definitions, let alone are able to agree on a diagnostic. Whatever name one uses, there is for me a category that feels no remorse (sociopathy according to some definitions), another one that does to some extent, but manage to ignore it, telling themselves, its not serious what they did; the person they victimized will get over it (narcissistic disorder). For the victimized it makes little difference.
I had no idea what it was all about until Oct. 2021. I had always berated psychology. Evidently one meets with aggression of various types, even harassment, at work, socially, etc. But aggression is not necessarily psychological violence. I met with this violence since Oct. 2021. I guess while it was going on I had no idea what was happening. He wasnt physically abusive, so I wasnt afraid. We were only “friends”. I later was told what I went through was the worst abuse there is, that he was a high flyer abuser as is rarely met. That he left as suddenly as he had come into my life because I was constantly fighting back. A friend who tried helping a year ago told me I was then acting like someone who had suffered a trauma. I never thought this could happen, to me of all people : let us say Im not a totally unknown scientist, I am one of the main voices that has spoken out in another European country (its not the first time, Ive had to sacrifice my academic career for my opinions), the first one there to publicly denounce the viral dogma. Im rather a strong character (one of the things he used to tell me recurrently : “you are stronger than I am” which I thought was a funny thing to say). I am a happy person usually, which is what attracted him. Possibly finding myself for the first time all alone, totally cut off from my social base due to my stand on current events, and having lost my family through death, and my husband through divorce. Whatever, I would not wish my experience on anyone : I realized after he suddenly put down the phone one day last June saying : “You cheated on me” (I have no idea to this day what he is referring to : but that is precisely it. I learnt from the books of Patricia Evans, which I recommend, that the content of abuse is irrelevant as it makes no sense, what the other tells you about you has no meaning, and you should not start defending yourself, for at that game, he will always win, and you will get lost even more, that it is simply abuse and you shouldnt treat the other person as though he were rational), I realized that my mind, even my soul had been under attack, that it was colonized in some sense; that where no one has the right to enter, he had taken hold. Its as if your mind is cut in 2, and the two halves dont join. Anyhow its the past, and I dont really remember the feelings. My mind has forgotten the extreme violence. I managed to turn the event into a positive one : it has taken me into a spiritual journey I never thought I would make in this life, and it has indeed made me understand what is happening, beyond the geopolitics, on a purely human plane. I believe Schwab, Gates, etc may be like him. He has made me understand why at root it is happening, and what we can do about it. My own geopolitical analysis is now coloured by this experience.

No violence wont stop : no one is born violent, one becomes violent because of childhood experiences and circumstances. Evidently most of those who have faced childhood violence dont in their turn become abusers. Otherwise we’d all be dead by now! But the cycle of violence is tragic. He has no memory of his early life, and doesnt talk about his childhood, even though he’s always lived next to his parents, and now takes care of his mother. Its so bad as he was abused by them, certainly physically by his father. His mother was a beaten woman and could never play the role of the mother. Mother-son relation are the most unhealthy and odd Ive come across. In his turn he abuses his own son. He managed to get the courts to take away parental rights from the mother of his son, but its very odd : the courts, especially where he lives, never do that, however criminal she may be (she isnt, she is a hospital nurse, and it did not cost her her job). But then his family has contacts to the highest level. He may have been raped — not by his parents, but with their passive knowledge — by let us say people at the top (this Im surmising from what indirect allusions he made, or his mother made : just doesnt add up otherwise).
I tried getting help for the 12 year old son, who doesnt know how to smile. Everyone, including psychologists that work for the State refused, everyone in the so called “dissidence” movement Ive talked to has refused or look on the other side. He is a respected member of the movement. I dont understand the women, the mothers in the movement, who know him, go regularly to their house : they see the son is disturbed… There is not a single public organization I can go talk to confidentially. My name will be sent to him if I do, and evidently that may be dangerous.
I would strongly recommend reading The Vice of Kings: How Fabianism, Occultism, and the Sexual Revolution Engineered a Culture of Abuse by Jasun Horsley (2019). He is a highly courageous man, an insider, from the British elites, he was abused, for some of these families abuse their own children (thats how they ensure they become abusers in turn according to a Swedish journalist). He is an insider who tells the logic behind what we are all undergoing, the logic in the mind of the doers. They were/are friends of his parents and brother : “My brother and I were born and raised in an environment that glamorized vice and normalized corruption—in which corruption disguised itself as virtue.”
Its a rare document.

No the violence will not end. Unless the 12 year old son has the chance to meet someone who can really help, I would not be surprised to read in a few years in some local paper that he has murdered an innocent woman, whose only mistake would have been to attract his attention. Have I forgiven the child’s father ? It no longer matters if I have or not; Ive realized that we truly are all one Humanity, and I love him as much as anyone else (which is not the same as like or approve), and that the question of violence has to be debated openly : Society must protect. I have met many victims of violence who years later are far from being free of their past. I had no idea it was so widespread. Most of them women, except for one man, all pretty high flyers, attractive, full of life. Yet they are tortured still inside. Ive been relatively lucky, but that was because of a miracle one day, which suddenly showed me the path and I managed to go beyond psychology, which keeps you enmeshed in categories : seeing the other as a monster is necessary, the anger must be expressed, and one should not even consider forgiving, but it necessary to then go beyond. I even wrote to him that I now loved him, but did not like him, wrote to him about what had happened to him as a child, that I felt his atrocious suffering, that that is what makes him make others suffer; that that was unacceptable, that he was abusing his own flesh and blood, anyhow Im told he is totally befuddled and has no idea what to make of me… Evidently Im the first one to have spoken clearly to him, and not behaving as his victims (they appear to all have psychological issues since their encounter with him : in the end an abuser makes a victim become violent towards him or herself, unless she can extricate herself).

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
May 15, 2023 4:09 PM

Normalized sociopathy, that’s where the real action’s at.

Here in the States, narcissism isn’t even an official psychiatric diagnosis any more, that’s how prevalent it is.

Makes for an interesting society, to put it mildly.

atlon
atlon
May 15, 2023 2:07 PM

“whilst you might know something’s very ‘off’, your mind has been so programmed that you can no longer believe your own eyes, ears or mind.”
I think it’s the opposite. Your mind, as in, your instincts, tells you something is very off, but the artificial “social rules” of the particular context, make you behave differently.
Maybe I’m just saying tomato/tomato.

moneycircus
moneycircus
May 15, 2023 1:27 PM

Narcissism is not hard to prove. It is one of the more accepted classifications.

Is the psychological nutcase ring-fenced, so that we legitimatise its behaviour, however antisocial?
Shall we deny narcissim, though it sits at the root of the transhumanism and other Space Oddities?

Or do we aquiesce in group think, and praise “the next thing”?

In Britain, especially London, the latter is the norm.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
May 15, 2023 3:18 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

Believe me, narcissism is most definitely hard to “prove”…or maybe even impossible. That doesn’t mean it can’t be recognized, or “seen by others”…but to the narcissist, forget it. As Davies says, “just by its very nature.”

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 15, 2023 3:26 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Especially, if by ‘prove’ one is anticipating expecting seeking an admission or acknowledgment from the narcissist.

boxofcrayons
boxofcrayons
May 15, 2023 9:29 PM
Reply to  Kacsynski2

True….can very easily expose them, I know an intense narcissist who can be nonplussed with basic logic that results in oodles of common reality. Is even more fun if I can associate a balmy alternative into their hellborn goulash, then watch, as the child (violet elizabeth) emerges, revealing them as a living reflection of the other side of the mirror, whether or not they break it is irrelevant, as is proof enough of – where they are.

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 15, 2023 11:55 PM
Reply to  boxofcrayons

Have you considered other hobbies?

boxofcrayons
boxofcrayons
May 16, 2023 12:51 AM
Reply to  Kacsynski2

I’ll drink on it.

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 16, 2023 3:15 AM
Reply to  boxofcrayons

You are telling me something without saying it. Piccard didn’t report back what the video pretends. He saw something else, the video is propaganda. A misrepresentation.

Anyway, dare you!!
Side walk Soul, by Tommy Guerrero from Road to Nowhere 👍 24 mins & 57 secs into that wild feckers album.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 16, 2023 7:41 AM
Reply to  boxofcrayons

This means they are here?

boxofcrayons
boxofcrayons
May 16, 2023 6:00 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

it Your eye my friend…..embrace the you, and they will fade into worthlessness

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 15, 2023 4:27 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Good point.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 16, 2023 5:37 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Todd yourself wouldn’t know who other people are about. Man can be a Narc. that’s a dick head in any language. I don’t expect to know being a writer unless you personally come across one. He’ll be a tyical individual inwardly struggling with his own male female inbalancing sexual act.

Cleggy
Cleggy
May 15, 2023 1:22 PM

You seem to have upset a lot of bitter and angry trolls love. Don’t mind em. They’ve nowt else to do and they don’t like honest people trying to make a difference. Go for it and laugh at em.

Lucy Davies
Lucy Davies
May 15, 2023 1:53 PM
Reply to  Cleggy

Thank you!

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 16, 2023 7:47 PM
Reply to  Lucy Davies

Party line, lassies luv to chat nawt changed..bless em.

Freecus
Freecus
May 15, 2023 12:55 PM

It’s been drip fed from the top down, through generations, families, schools, media etc.; rewarded and encouraged at every turn. It’s been normalised and accepted.

So very true. At this stage of the ‘game’ we are facing a systemic challenge where the People themselves continue to build their own prison-panopticon.

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 15, 2023 12:39 PM

Important article & perspective, many thanks. Especially, if you wish to understand the mindset of the abuser’s & the reaquiring myopic patterns we’re all being subjected too.
Wasn’t the ‘Pandemic’ Munchausen syndrome via proxy delivered by Grandiose/ Malignant narcissists?

Andy Warhol said “People will be famous for 15 minutes” or words to that affect.
You look at Social media in all it’s form’s & certain people seem to be more than doing that.
Are these tools to groom & shape that narcissism?
To promote normalise & accentuate it?
An externalisation of the (mindset) Hierarchy?
It creates, for those not aware what is happening, a codependency. Which again seems to fit our current plight.

No contact is the first course of action. When you realise what your being subjected too.
Unfortunately TPTB are extremely difficult to go no contact with. So would be very interested in the best or most effective way, to deal with a one world governance narcissist & it’s endless array of flying monkeys.

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 15, 2023 3:36 PM
Reply to  Kacsynski2

is narcissistic abuse a form of trauma based mind control? As it’s rife in our ‘civilised’ cultures. A coincidence?

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 15, 2023 11:24 PM
Reply to  Kacsynski2

I wrote this in 2017 inregards our hosts & all the problems at that time. It spooks me as i don’t title poems often but i called this

[Removed by request – Admin]

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 16, 2023 12:20 PM
Reply to  Kacsynski2

can you delete my poem admins

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 16, 2023 2:23 PM
Reply to  Kacsynski2

Again, can you take my poem off your site. I no longer CONSENT to it being here. Enough of these
petty games.

judith
judith
May 15, 2023 12:20 PM

I’m sure it’s a wonderful book, Ms. Davies, but I am suffering from the pandemic of F word abuse. Narcissistic or otherwise.
Freedom of speech notwithstanding, the fact that the word has become normalised and accepted is very sad and disturbing to me.
Very much part of the dumbing down as I see it.
But I suppose every generation has experienced the same.

Cleggy
Cleggy
May 15, 2023 1:24 PM
Reply to  judith

Oh shut up love. It’s not her fault she’s written a book and you haven’t. Go and write one, it might make you feel better

judith
judith
May 15, 2023 1:42 PM
Reply to  Cleggy

Oh dear Lord, really?

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 16, 2023 8:24 PM
Reply to  Cleggy

Don’t be grumpy grandma Cleggy with with those youngsters now think on. Or I’ll mention your living room wallpaper, and those flying ducks.

Howard
Howard
May 15, 2023 2:56 PM
Reply to  judith

As someone who practically worships at the altar of foul language, I of course must disagree with your assessment of bad words.

Now I almost never use the “F” word, or any others, when posting a comment or when conversing with others.

Truthfully, what I find offensive is the substitution of soft core words for hard core words – as in poop for shit. I loathe the word poop – for no other reason than that it’s unaesthetic. It just feels creepy to say it.

In fact most of the soft core or technical substitutes for hard core words are kind of creepy.

I first encountered the “F” word in 5th grade. It was written on a wall and a classmate asked me to pronounce it. (It was love at first sight!)

peterpaul
peterpaul
May 15, 2023 5:55 PM
Reply to  judith

It’s one of the most magnificent words we have. F… communicates so much and inspires all sorts of emotional responses; from laughter, shock or disdain to outright violence, and when uttered in my hard, northern English accent it shines like a diamond. Great word, I also like bivouac, for reasons I can’t explain, it just roles off the toungue wonderfully.
Pending then deleted?

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 16, 2023 10:10 PM
Reply to  peterpaul

Too right northern chum, one thing I can’t stand is these Yankie Cons judging our language for their chat bitters.
Cheers

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 15, 2023 11:48 AM

Again, apologies for this short comment being O/T, but just to provide an interim update (prior to the ‘visit’ by the ‘pschiatry’ people tomorrow, 16th May), I’ve just received an email from the local Ambulance Service, here in the East Midlands of the UK. A lady had phoned me from them, a day or two after the 26 April when the bl**dy ambulance-man did what he did to me… I’d then sent her an explanatory email, re. what he’d done, but have only today received a proper reply from her.

Her reply is as follows: OPEN QUOTE:

She says “I’m sorry that the actions of one of the paramedics has caused you distress and that the call from the ‘mental health’ [insert: it’s ME who’s put those two word in quote marks] team has upset you. However, as the paramedic was not an expert in ‘mental health’, he was correct to ask for additional input from a mental health clinician to assist with his assessment.

I wish to assure you that we have taken your concerns seriously and that this incident will remain on file under the ref. (given). Your concerns have been passed on to Elite [my insert… ‘elite’???] Medical Services management to be addressed with the members of staff concerned as appropriate.

On behalf of East Midlands Ambulance Service, I would like to offer our utmost apologies for any upset and consternation caused by the actions of the ambulance crew.

Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention, we are extremely sorry it is felt that, on this occasion, our service failed to meet with the high standards that we aspire to achieve and which you have every right to expect.

Kind regards.

(Signed)

CLOSE QUOTE

For any reader who’s not aware what I’ve been subjected to since 26 April, due to the disgraceful actions of the senior ambulance man, here is a link, below, to my original post on this, on 11 April (I had, in fact, mentioned it a day or so after the 26th April, but cannot now track down that post of mine).

https://off-guardian.org/2023/05/10/theyre-coming-to-take-you-away/#comment-601723

I also posted an update on the article by Sylvia Shawcross (re. the Easter Island statues), but cannot track down my copy of that post of mine. However, I did summarise the update in a post to Sam – Admin2, on the same article as above: the link as below:

https://off-guardian.org/2023/05/10/theyre-coming-to-take-you-away/#comment-602004

I’m now anxiously awaiting the ‘visit’ of tomorrow, and hope that the two ‘psychiatry’ blokes who visited me on Friday 12th May were not bluffing me, when they said that the ‘interaction’ between themselves and me [since 26 April) would be ended.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 15, 2023 12:46 PM

Thanks for the update, Christine. Sounds like you’ve got this. Fingers crossed for you, Please do continue to update us, this place can be very supportive and your issue is important. Saying this, I have one small request. You are posting underneath articles written by authors, and your posts are off-topic. So, as a gesture of friendliness to our contributors, please let’s keep acknowledgements and replies brief, if that’s ok. Feel free to engage with the author’s words and with other on-topic discussions as well. Thank you very much. Sending you positive thoughts for tomorrow. Remember, play it safe and get out of the system as quickly as possible. Sam x

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 15, 2023 1:04 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Thank you, Sam – Admin2, for your good wishes for the ‘visit’ I’m expecting tomorrow. I certainly hope that I will get out the system as quickly as possible. This situation is causing me a very great deal of stress, as can be imagined.

Yes, I much appreciate the fact that this excellent site can be very supportive, and most definitely my current issue is important.

I sincerely apologise for the fact that I’ve had to post these comments as off-topic. You’ll have noticed that I do apologise, at the top of my post, for the fact that my comment is O/T. But how else can I let interested readers of this site know what’s taken place, unless I do it this way?

(On other Off-G articles, other readers occasionally post O/T comments. I’ve seen that sometimes you people in Admin. do say the same to them as you’ve said to me, in your reply today)

Many thanks.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 15, 2023 2:39 PM

Yes, but the follow up replies can stretch quite long, which is why I politely asked everyone if we could keep replies brief. 🙂 This piece is about narcissism, and what a destructive force it is in the world today.

Good luck tomorrow. Please update everyone here. A2

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 15, 2023 4:45 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Thank you, Sam – Admin2.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 16, 2023 10:33 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Hi Sam – Admin2,

As promised, here is the update. The ‘psychiatry’ people left my home about 15 minutes ago, and have said that they’ll not be coming any more. That they realise I’m fine!! Ie, that I’m NOT ‘mentally ill’.

What a relief for me, to have them all off my back!

Thank you all so much for your support – it’s been much appreciated.

Christine.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 16, 2023 11:13 AM

That’s amazing 🤩 phewwww. I bet you’re soooo relieved. Good work! Now, congratulate yourself on a job well done. Celebrate! You have my special permission to post an update thread on ‘OffG’s Quick Take: “Patriot Front”’ if you’d like the wider community to share in your success. And don’t worry about replies running too long on there, it’s an offg editorial/discussion piece, it’ll be fine. Sam x

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 16, 2023 11:25 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Thank you so much for your kind words, Sam (Admin2)! They’re much appreciated.

Yes, I’m most definitely sooo relieved!!

Thank you for your special permission for me to post an update thread on today’s OffG’s article ‘Patriot Front’. Will do so very soon, but right now will be making myself a cup of tea (and no doubt something a bit stronger, later on! [I do love my red wine!]).

Thank you once again.

Christine

Ort
Ort
May 16, 2023 7:49 PM

I’ve been silently following your predicament, and am glad to hear that it’s apparently been resolved to your satisfaction.

However, it might be a good idea to request the same written certification issued to, and proudly displayed by, Homer J. Simpson after he was released from a psychiatric institution 😉:

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Violet
Violet
May 15, 2023 1:14 PM

Good luck for tomorrow Christine, hope everything goes ok for you.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 15, 2023 2:40 PM
Reply to  Violet

Thank you so much for your good wishes, Violet, I much appreciate it.

mgeo
mgeo
May 15, 2023 9:16 AM

the bubble of illusion will burst
Sure, but we may then be well and truly inside the trap.

There are other creatures in the human jungle apart from nacissists. Such as control freaks, sadists and hoarders.

Human values
Human values
May 16, 2023 8:18 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Control freaks, sadists and hoarders belong in the narcissism continuum. Continuum or spectrum of narcissism is everything that is false, wrong or illusion.

The narcissistic ego is a false self in opposition to the soul. So it is the enemy of the soul. Therefore, it is the enemy of God, truth and goodness.

All souls are basically fighting the ego with the help of the Mighty God. And so that fight goes, God wins. There is no other logical or practical solution to the problem of the narcissistic ego. So our best weapon is prayer. Or meditation or pondering, actually thinking and hearing what comes to Mind.

Our solution to the problem of narcissism – in all its faked glory – is to know, acknowledge, realize, and manifest its destruction. The evil structure based on narcissistic abuse is already destroying itself. That’s what all this shit is. So it’s best to see the freedom behind it.

It’s good to remember that behind all lies, there is the truth. 

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
May 15, 2023 9:15 AM

You’ll find out the hard way that ‘just standing up to it’ isn’t enough. You have to be on your guard, every minute of every day, for years and decades, if you want to be free of it.

How do I know this? I have a family member who is quite happy to wait over a decade to inflict destruction again if it doesn’t work this week or next month. They have no intention of backing down and they are ‘protected’ from very, very high up in the evil Establishment.

What they’ll also try to do is change the narrative to stay in power. They’ll give up one form of abuse and then claim that they are now a good person.

There can’t be any negotiation here. They have to be out of power for good. They won’t change inside, they might change their make up and their knickers though.

Don’t think that reading one book will change everything. It’s all about you, your daily ability to stand up for yourself and your refusal to allow narcissists to behave as they always did.

There’s no one behaviour pattern, what there is a continuous desire for control, power, and most important of all, power over YOU.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 15, 2023 11:04 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Obviously., one book could be key to kicking off change in our life, by awakening us to a cycle of narcissistic abuse we’re trapped in. Therefore I find your dismissal of ‘books’ as kinda ignorant. A2

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 16, 2023 11:05 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Sam excuse me for mentioning we are historically generation XZ.

Lucy Davies
Lucy Davies
May 15, 2023 11:49 AM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

If you’d bothered to read the book before writing an essay on it you’d have known that what you say in your second to last paragraph is exactly what the book is for.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 15, 2023 4:44 PM
Reply to  Lucy Davies

I hope you haven’t been too put off by all the bad vibes here today? I think there’s a really destructive atmosphere going around. I’ve noticed it on other sites too. Something in the zeitgeist. However some nice people have showed up to represent, including that nice man Todd Hayen 🙂 I’m very interested to read the book, personally, because you can easily go through life in the shadow of narcissism and not realise it, until something (like the right book) comes along to spark off an awakening. Few realise just how debilitating and erasing narcissism can be on its victims. A2

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
May 15, 2023 9:51 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Seems in modern times those that have been through “academic institutions” are more prone susceptible to narcissism than those not subjected to those many times false ego building indoctrination. Exhibit A, Being the academics who fell for & pushed the C20 hoax & it’s accompanying poison jabs.

” Trust the Science it’s settled”

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 15, 2023 5:54 AM

A quick search!
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=anti-vaccine+narcissism

https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-psychologists-say-about-anti-vaxxers-theyre-raging-narcissists
What Psychologists Say About Anti-Vaxxers: They’re Raging Narcissists
MIRROR MIRROR
“Who cares if a kid dies from measles, as long as I got to make my choice!”
Updated Apr. 14, 2017 / Published Feb. 09, 2015

With the measles outbreak bringing vaccination back into the spotlight, one question is rarely answered: Why do more people now choose not to vaccinate their children? In a word: Narcissism.

When the measles vaccine was introduced in 1963, American culture was very different. . . . In short, individualism had yet to dominate American culture.

It does now, and individualism has crossed over into narcissism in many pockets of our culture. Narcissism is the perfect formula for choosing not to vaccinate your kids. No, not everyone who makes this choice is narcissistic, but the pervasive cultural narcissism in the U.S. makes these ideas possible and accepted even without individuals displaying the personality trait. Either way, it’s remarkable how many characteristics of narcissism map on to anti-vaccine ideas.

1. Narcissistic people believe they should be able to do what they want, no matter how it affects others.

Etc

https://www.psypost.org/2022/04/new-research-uncovers-a-surprising-link-between-conscientiousness-and-vaccine-hesitancy-62883
New research uncovers a surprising link between conscientiousness and vaccine hesitancy
April 10, 2022
in COVID-19, Social Psychology

A new study has identified several psychological factors, including psychopathic tendencies and narcissism, that are related to vaccine hesitancy. The findings, which appear in the journal Personality and Individual Differences, provide insight into what types of people are predisposed to support or oppose vaccines.

“Once COVID-19 vaccines became widely available, I knew that some portion of the U.S. population would be reluctant to receive them; however, I was quite surprised at how widespread negative attitudes towards COVID-19 vaccines became, leading to my interest in studying vaccine hesitancy,” explained researcher Matt C. Howard, an assistant professor in the Mitchell College of Business at the University of South Alabama.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
May 15, 2023 11:45 AM

the ” inventor” of the measles vaccine stated that there was no need for it at all, at that time mortality was near zero, ”but it was a challenge, like climbing everest.”
there you have narcissism.

Howard
Howard
May 15, 2023 1:38 PM

I have one word only to say about this article from the psychological community: Guantanamo. Let that word be a cover for all the prisons the US built and maintained dedicated to the torture and humiliation of human beings.

All these torture chambers were overseen by members in very good standing of the psychological community.

As far as I’m concerned, the pseudoscience of psychology has no standing to make judgements about anything or anyone.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 16, 2023 8:37 PM
Reply to  Howard

At least not something children cant see better.

I recall the phrase “projective identification” for psychology, here on off-guardian we call it “mirror”, and children have the correct gramma: “what you say is yourself”. Love that one.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
May 15, 2023 2:00 PM

Right, both “sides” accuse the other of being narcissists. Well then, her book should have a wide audience…

TRT
TRT
May 15, 2023 3:56 PM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Narcissists always accuse those who don’t buy their BS and try to expose them. If you want to find the narcissist, look for the person who lives to control and dominate people who fall within their circle. For global oligarchs, that circle is the entire world.

Howard
Howard
May 16, 2023 3:49 PM
Reply to  TRT

I think we dismiss global oligarchs as narcissists at our own peril. Their actions suggest they are far more than merely self-serving manipulators of others.

Given their penchant for war above all other methods of dealing with others; plus their eagerness to force such things as mRNA poisons on the world’s population; plus their keen interest in substituting questionable agricultural techniques for small scale techniques with proven track records; plus their stated wish to somehow combine humans and machines –

Given all this and more, the tern “narcissist” is rather like calling a serial killer a bully.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 16, 2023 11:42 PM
Reply to  TRT

Globe reach Archs predate 1830 whats known as the Modern computer machine is straight cut gear ratio tool box. That’s A Computer. Blimey! I knew that when I was 8-10 years old. Ok, you want change Well First read A BOOK on What Your Toolbox IS.
We ALL effect what IT does..stone the crows. Today we are generational XZ.
Good Evening

TRT
TRT
May 15, 2023 3:31 PM

Matt Howard is apparently an idiot who no doubt received substantial funding for his ‘research.’ At the core of narcissism is the desire for control over others. That only applies to one side and it’s not the anti-vaxxers.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 15, 2023 5:14 AM

Who gets to call who “narcissistic” – or whatever label they come up with?

[Covid Retrospective, Vol. 1] Media: The Unvaccinated Are Scum
Grabien
May 12, 2023

George Mc
George Mc
May 15, 2023 6:31 PM

So the unvaccinated are being terrorised into taking a vaccine that couldn’t have worked for the vaccinated since they are not protected from the unvaccinated i.e. they are not protected from the very virus the vaccine is supposed to protect them from?

OR are the vaccinated really dumb enough to think the vaccine won’t work unless every single person on the planet is vaccinated? (Which is not going to happen due to the demand for new vaccines to deal with new variants.)

OR are these specific vaccinated folk (who may be lying about their vaccination status) just shilling for the parasite druglords?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 16, 2023 8:11 AM

Quite amazing. It could easily be Lucy’s narcissism.
It strucked me when I looked this video through, that they talk about the un-vaccinated’s insistence on their free choice or freedom.

But thats wrong concept and word. The word is responsibility. Personal responsibility for yourself and therefore also your society.

“Let me see if you can raise your own shield”. Leonidas and the Dwarf:
300 Raise Your Shield! Ephialtes asks to join Leonidas – YouTube

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
May 17, 2023 12:09 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Like that film except they leave too much to the audience imagination who were the Spartans. imo

ThinkTwice
ThinkTwice
May 15, 2023 12:32 AM

New Sparks song:

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
May 15, 2023 9:15 AM
Reply to  ThinkTwice

I have followed Sparks for 48 years. The most under rated band of all time.

Howard
Howard
May 15, 2023 3:25 PM
Reply to  ThinkTwice

Great great song! Thank you!

eman
eman
May 15, 2023 12:25 AM

the bubble of illusion <=nails it..what more need be said..

Ravensara
Ravensara
May 15, 2023 12:06 AM

My layperson’s view of a narcissist roughly equates to someone who sees other beings as cardboard. And someone who sees themself as the only real identity they can feel anything for.

It’s a lonely place.

Andrew
Andrew
May 14, 2023 11:17 PM

Some odd comments on here, the book sounds fascinating will order it an have a read, Thanks for providing your perspective.

Matt
Matt
May 14, 2023 10:17 PM

It’s an industry.

CD3
CD3
May 14, 2023 9:46 PM

The important thing is to NOT make yourself a victim, it will feed the narcissist and quite possible you will become one also.

mjh
mjh
May 14, 2023 9:21 PM

Lucy, your book may be wonderful, but from this description I just cannot tell — what is it about? Narcissism can just be self interest run amuck, juvenile delusions. These are things we are all, alas, prone to, which we all must and should fight against in ourselves. Where do you especially see narcissism? It would help potential readers to know more about your focus. Donald Trump is certainly a narcissist. Is there a world leader, even a local official, who is not? Your description (actually more of a blurb) here is just too vague. It could be about child abusers, people who never grow out of teenage delusions, those who abuse power to enrich or amuse themselves. I’d like a few more specifics. Thanks.

Lucy Davies
Lucy Davies
May 14, 2023 9:56 PM
Reply to  mjh

The article was the book’s introduction.
If you’d like to know more there is the ‘look inside’ feature on Amazon & a page on my website all about the book. The synopsis is on both sites & the links are included in the article. I’ll include the synopsis below…

“Surely not – why on earth would they do that?”…

This is a book of small, digestible insights into the nature of narcissistic abuse, aka mind control.

How they do it, why they do it, how we don’t see it, why we go to extreme lengths to deny it and how to deal with it.

Each of the quotes in this book are relatable to any kind of personal abusive relationship with a narcissist, as well as our collective dynamic with the ‘powers that be’.
I wanted to draw these parallels because what’s happening in the world today can seem insanely confusing, contradictory and divisive.
However, when we pan out and view it through the lens of a narcissistically abusive relationship (for that’s exactly what it is), it’s easier to see the wood for the trees. To no longer get swept up in the endless stream of false narratives, promises, chaos, crises and woe, all carefully designed to spiral us into ever increasing levels of fear, insecurity, despondency, disempowerment, apathy and dependency… on them.
To be the wounded animals, abused and ‘rescued’ over and over again by the same people and their minions, trapped in a web of drama, dysfunction and control; the ultimate distraction from their greatest threat – us realising our true potential.

Whether we’re experiencing these toxic relationships personally or globally, the themes, patterns, common feelings, realisations and process of dealing with it are the same.

Ultimately this begins with harsh realisations.
A series of inconvenient and uncomfortable pennies dropping.
Followed by an often arduous yet intensely liberating journey back to a place where we learn to trust our own instincts above all else and to stand by them with autonomy, integrity and conviction, nomatter what.

A place of sovereignty.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 15, 2023 2:34 AM
Reply to  mjh

The book is 118 pages with all about the lock downs, the masks, the vaxx, the fema camps and the coronation thing with a long list of references and links from alternative media you can read afterwards. (I’m joking)

Lucy, I havent met one single sheep who regretted or even want to talk about it, and we who know, dont really need the book that much.

What we could need is an advice on how to get around the sheep, if any. The few narcissists can be dealt with, but the sheep are the real enemy and problem in my opinion.
All the best.

Petra Liverani
Petra Liverani
May 15, 2023 8:37 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Australian comedian, James McCann, expresses his regret at having the jab … and not because he suffered ill-effects afterwards which obviously will be the reason for a lot of people assuming they’re not so blinded they can’t recognise the reason for the ill-effects.

If the twitter link works for you, it’s a better version with a few words on the end missing from the YouTube version.

https://twitter.com/karma44921039/status/1657015531931664384?s=20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vKyHBo6TyU

This is 15 mins where he gets the total runaround ringing government departments seeking an apology for the false claim made by the government that the jab stopped transmission – of course, as there was no virus, it didn’t do anything in relation to a virus.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 16, 2023 8:59 AM
Reply to  Petra Liverani

Well, for me it was so obvious. I recalled a TV programme First on young girls disabled from the Swine flue vaccine in 2009.

Second we had 1 Ebola case in EU and 1 Ebola case in US and a global mass campaign to resolve “the Ebola problem” with public $billions of Ebola vaccines stored in hospitals basements.

Third we had some cities in US hit by Zika and Zika vaccines, a Zika I found on search to be patented from one of Rockefeller’s laboratories.
All roots claimed in MSM to be from a jungle in Africa transmitted through tourists.

So when the Fourth Corona vaxx came, it was just another simple wall street scam for me.
It really chocked me to see the majority running so decisively to the cliff. Narcissism, mass psychosis, mass hypnosis, perception management, I still cant figure out what the name is.
Only sure the majority need some kind of a shrink.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
May 15, 2023 1:12 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Yes, you’re right, of course.

I’ve been ‘awake’ for 40+ years (am 64), and all my family members and all bar two already ‘awake’ friends are all ‘sheep’. No matter how much trustworthy information I’ve provided them with, from early 2020 (and in earlier years, regarding other scams/hoaxes etc perpetrated by the Powers-that-should-NOT-be) onwards, from honest doctors, scientists, lawyers, funeral directors, embalmers, the [rare…] honest politicians, etc, they still choose to ‘believe’ what they get ‘told’ on their beloved TVs. And choose to reject the actual facts/truths.

As you say, the ‘sheep’ truly are the real enemy/problem. How do we solve that problem, is the burning question…

Keir
Keir
May 14, 2023 9:16 PM

Yay….so the article made loads of folks stop & think, but the only 2 who felt motivated to comment are blatent narcissists by they’re own comments. Hoist by their own petards, but too stupid to realise. Damn……but British news/comedy could have endless fun with these halfwits…….almost makes me wish for a series…….

Boris Longstockings IV
Boris Longstockings IV
May 14, 2023 8:16 PM

What we experienced in the UK (and probably everywhere else too) definitely had hallmarks of abuse. I don’t think you can directly make comparisons between narcissistic abuse in the domestic setting (or similar) and what was experienced over the past few years. Narcissistic abuse as many experience it is different to abuse conducted at scale on mass populations by an authority like a government. I think you have to be careful you don’t confuse the two because this will only distort things even further. This isn’t a personal relationship involving two individuals. There isn’t a relationship in the same way there is a relationship when you experience narcissistic abuse at the hands of a partner, family member, colleague at work etc.

You are talking about something far more complex, nuanced and far more destructive. You don’t need to look for very long in the history books to see classic examples of when populations became both the victims and the perpetrators of a corrupt, violent and oppressive ideologies. That isn’t narcissistic abuse although the “trickle down” effect people experience “in the streets” resembles narcissistic abuse. It’s a problem with our power structures and prolonged periods of apathy, discontent, anxiety, helplessness, fear, division and anger that is stoked within populations which mobilizes them in the direction of destroying the fabric of their own societies in the hopes of finding a solution to the problems which exist in society. The problems are created by the government who then set the stage for the ensuing gradual and inevitable demise of the psyche at large. Give it time and people will turn against their own if they believe doing so will free them of their own torturous situation at that time. Alas, it doesn’t free them but simply frees the tyrant while further imprisoning the population.

Is that narcissistic abuse? Yes and no.
The end result resembles narcissistic abuse but its a lot more complicated than that and whole academic pursuits which could do infinitely more justice to this subject than I and most could ever do have outlined the context for events that unfold as they always follow similar patterns.

Its wise to remember there is no narcissist in the way we think there is.
The idea of there being a bad guy behind all this is a fatal assumption to make. That is our attachment to 19th century thinking when the world was a much different place. Things have changed. We now have infinitely complex systems that make our analog way of looking at things completely obsolete. There is no evil villain in a lair somewhere. Its not in 10 Downing Street nor the White House. You are talking about centuries of gradual transformations in the very social fabric of our societies and our institutions and the gradual erosion of Democratic processes and foundations. It’s not an abuser we need to find. It’s our relationship to the very power structures, institutions and our conception of society that holds that relationship. Its the very reality we live in. Its what we think the world is and what and who we think we are in relation to those things.

Perhaps the reason people are abused in the first place is because they have been groomed into a slumber and assume the world is simply as it is. They do not question things and do not look beyond the superficial. That there is a big boss of the country who pulls all the strings who holds all the keys. All we have to do is get him or her and its finished with. All we need to do is elect someone new or adopt a new social policy. Maybe the system itself is broken. Maybe it was always broken?

Again, that’s not narcissistic abuse.
That’s something far more insidious and evil.
Its the rot at the very core of our shared reality.
And that’s what we need to address. Address that and victimization transforms into empowerment. If we seek to only look at this the way we look at how we’ve been hurt by personal relationships, we will always be missing the point.

Furthermore, the answer is spiritual.
We need to work out what and we are before what and who we are disappears along with the destruction of the world as we know it. We need to reconnect with a state of consciousness that opens us up to a deeper place of introspection, reflection and connection.

Lucy Davies
Lucy Davies
May 15, 2023 8:09 AM

Maybe read the book… you’ll see how the two are very much intertwined.

Jonas Carling
Jonas Carling
May 14, 2023 8:04 PM

It seems that this generation is where it stops. Where we make a stand and say no more.

Really? Says whom? So Lucy, tell us: what makes our generation so wonderfully enlightened to be able to change a paradigm that has been going on for millenia?

And yet again we have yet another self-delusional “end of time” prophet 🙂

Lucy Davies
Lucy Davies
May 14, 2023 10:17 PM
Reply to  Jonas Carling

‘Says whom?’
Says me. I wrote the book. It’s what I think.
That’s why the sentence you quoted uses the word, ‘seems’.
It seems that way to me.
It also seems a shame to me that there are so many angry little jack russels lurking at the ankles of every writer posted on this site.
I’m sure none of us have any issue whatsoever with being disagreed with, but if you’re not the ‘paid to troll’ Guardian readers you sound like you are, & just want a discussion, you’ll be taken a lot more seriously if you speak to or about us with some respect.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 15, 2023 3:52 AM
Reply to  Lucy Davies

You’re right. There is a lot – and i mean a looot – of negative energy being directed at Offg and authors atm. It’s getting quite surreal.

I really don’t think it’s coming from any natural place. Definitely feels forced.

Wish I could explain it. It is a real shame.

Howard
Howard
May 15, 2023 3:15 PM
Reply to  Lucy Davies

If I could jump in here a moment. I think perhaps you’re overlooking something.

It’s something I noticed when I first started reading OffG articles and the comments generated by the articles. Namely, there’s a lot of belligerence among a lot of OffG commenters.

I think there is among far too many commenters an attitude that if you’re (what they might call) pussy-footing around the condition humanity has found itself in, then you deserve no respect whatsoever.

There’s a rough and tumble Wild West feel about the comment forum – a take no prisoners feel. And it seems most prevalent among those commenters who keep changing their monikers. To them, a snarl is worth a thousand words.

Howard
Howard
May 15, 2023 3:21 PM
Reply to  Howard

Let me add one more thing: the snarls generally get many more upvotes than the more civilized comments. That, too, says a lot.

Russian Hank
Russian Hank
May 15, 2023 7:15 PM
Reply to  Howard

That is the end.

thinking-turtle
thinking-turtle
May 14, 2023 7:40 PM

Quick, we must isolate the dreaded narcissists! Only people with digital proof of being narcissism-free can have jobs, travel or eat in restaurants. We can only be free when a narcissism vaccine becomes available!

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
May 14, 2023 7:27 PM

I think the pandemic of pseudo-scientific psychobabble is far more insidious. The Greeks pretty much got it right by wrapping it all up in myths and stories. As a myth, Narcissus is a parable on extreme vanity. For the individual, it’s sad and destructive, but I don’t see how it becomes a problem for anybody else – other than perhaps through the failure to fulfil familial obligations.

The abuse which I presume is described in the book is real – and it warrants appropriate consideration and treatment. But it also needs a more appropriate label.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissus_(mythology)
In Greek mythology, Narcissus was a hunter from Thespiae in Boeotia (alternatively Mimas or modern day Karaburun, Izmir) who was known for his beauty. According to Tzetzes, he rejected all romantic advances, eventually falling in love with his own reflection in a pool of water, staring at it for the remainder of his life. After he died, in his place sprouted a flower bearing his name.

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Andrew
Andrew
May 15, 2023 4:01 AM

As you state Narcissus is a parable, of falling in love with our own “image”, this could be a mental image, we all create images in our mind of who we think we are and these often don’t “reflect” reality. ie we are living in our mind not in reality. I think that is a deeper meaning of the parable worth investigating.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
May 15, 2023 1:11 PM
Reply to  Andrew

“As you state Narcissus is a parable, of falling in love with our own “image”…”

Of course, there’s a metaphoric element to the myth, but in mundane terms, narcissism presents in areas like “selfies” and social media: Unique, vibrant individuals each selling their “brand.”

A camera, forever pointed at one’s own face.