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The Anti-Anti-Semitism Follies

CJ Hopkins

Roll up, roll up, because it’s time once again for The Anti-Anti-Semitism Follies! That’s right, folks, it’s everyone’s favorite unintentionally slapstick theatrical revue, featuring an all-star line-up of uproarious propagandists, side-splitting corporate media clowns, babbling British Labour MPs, the all-singing, all-dancing Berlin Police Department, and other zany anti-anti-Semites!

Grab your popcorn and sit back and watch as they hunt down dastardly “Holocaust relativizers,” insidious critics of the State of Israel, and anyone who has ever used the word “globalism.” Hilarious high jinks are sure to ensue!

But, seriously, folks, this is no joke. We are in a bona fide State of Anti-Semitism Emergency!

Throughout Western Europe, Israel, the UK, and coastal areas of the USA, the Anti-Semitism Alert Level has been bumped up to ORANGE! According to “anonymous Intelligence sources,” crackerjack Anti-Anti-Semitism commandos are en route to Torquay in the South of England, where rumor has it Roger Waters, John Cleese, Mel Brooks, and other notorious anti-Semites have gathered in a shabby seaside hotel and are staging some sort of hatred-inciting “Nazism Glorification Contest.”

Roger holds the lead, currently. Following his recent performances in Berlin, the police have opened an official criminal investigation into his … well, his clothing. “We are investigating suspected incitement to hatred,” a Berlin police spokesperson told the AFP.

I’m not joking. The official ground for this investigation is the “dictator” costume Roger Waters has been wearing in his shows for over 40 years. You’ll recall this costume from the album The Wall

…and the 1982 film of the same name.

You probably still think I’m joking. I’m not. The actual Berlin police department has launched an official investigation. “An investigation has been opened over the costume displayed at the concerts on 17 and 18 May,” Berlin police spokesperson Martin Halweg told the Guardian. “The context of the clothing worn is capable of approving, glorifying or justifying the violent and arbitrary rule of the Nazi regime in a manner that violates the dignity of the victims and thereby disrupts public peace,” according to Polizeisprecher Halweg (who delivered this line with the stereotypical over-the-top “evil German” accent).

The Nazism Glorification Contest is just getting underway, however, so a Roger Waters victory is by no means assured. John Cleese has reportedly broken out the classic “Basil Fawlty goose-step” and is giving old Rog a run for his money!

And, despite the fact that he’s currently running third, only a fool would count out Mel Brooks when it come to glorifying the Nazis and violating the dignity of the victims of the Holocaust!

But the most entertaining part of the Anti-Anti-Semitism Follies has been the histrionics of the shameless propagandists, politicians, media clowns, and random perpetually outraged persons who have been making total jackasses of themselves in their efforts to demonize Roger Waters. Here are a few examples, presented without comment.

Deborah E. Lipstadt, US Special Envoy to Monitor and Combat Antisemitism.

Christian Wakeford, Labour MP.

StopAntisemitism, “an American non-profit watchdog organization” (with the “community note” Twitter readers appended)…

Arsen Ostrovsky, CEO International Legal Forum.

Sergiy Kyslytsya, Permanent Representative of Ukraine to the United Nations.

And then there’s the corporate media propaganda.

And, finally, here’s a statement from Roger Waters.

OK, the part of all this that isn’t so uproariously funny, and that has forced me to spend a few hours on a Sunday banging out this column, when I should have been working on my science-denying conspiracy-theorist novel, or helping my wife install a set of blinds, is the part I have been going on and on about for the better part of the last seven years.

Despite all appearances to the contrary, the people demonizing Roger Waters are not idiots. They are liars. They know precisely what they are doing. They know Roger Waters is not an anti-Semite. They are aware of The Wall and his other work. They are not ignorant. They are propagandists. Smear artists. They are components of a decentralized, supranational network of global corporations, governments, banks, Intelligence agencies, military contractors, media, non-governmental governing entities, and so on, that I have been calling “GloboCap.” And the longer we continue to pretend they’re just idiots, the tighter their grip around our throats is going to get.

And, no, “GloboCap” is not code for “the Jews.” Global capitalism is global capitalism. If you seriously believe the multitudinous elements of global capitalism, and the banking industry, and the media, and the US military, and the Intelligence agencies of most Western countries, are controlled by “the Jews,” you are an actual anti-Semite, not to mention an actual moron.

And that’s the other part of this that isn’t so funny.

Yes, there are actual anti-Semites out there, and by throwing around false accusations of anti-Semitism, the global-capitalist ruling classes and their propagandists have rendered the term virtually meaningless, and, even worse than meaningless, they have made it a joke. Given the horrors of the Holocaust and the history of Nazi Germany, this was quite an accomplishment.

Actual anti-Semites, neo-Nazis, and other slimy, bottom-feeding bigots could not be happier about this development. Watching as their opponents expose themselves as total hypocrites who will smear anyone as an “anti-Semite” at the drop of a hat and invoke “the dignity of the victims of the Holocaust” as a pretext to harass, and demonize, and censor, not just political activists and commentators, but musicians, authors, and other artists, and just regular non-public people on the Internet, is like Hitler’s birthday, the anniversary of Kristallnacht, and Nazi-Christmas all rolled into one.

Or, I don’t know, maybe that was the whole point.

After all, the neo-Nazis are the good guys, right? I mean, as long as they are fighting the Russians for us, and not supporting those nasty Palestinians, or criticizing the State of Israel, or The Federal Republic of Germany, or global capitalism, or denying Covid, or “violating the dignity of its victims in a manner that disrupts public peace,” or … never mind.

I think I’m getting confused and “relativizing the Holocaust” again, or “delegitimizing the state in a way that endangers security,” or something that might get the Germans after me.

Anyway, back to the Anti-Anti-Semitism Follies! I don’t know about you, but my money’s on Mel!

CJ Hopkins is an award-winning American playwright, novelist and political satirist based in Berlin. His plays are published by Bloomsbury Publishing and Broadway Play Publishing, Inc. His dystopian novel, Zone 23, is published by Snoggsworthy, Swaine & Cormorant. Volumes I and II of his Consent Factory Essays are published by Consent Factory Publishing, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Amalgamated Content, Inc. He can be reached at cjhopkins.com or consentfactory.org.

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Rav
Rav
Jun 2, 2023 6:06 PM

when two are batting for the same controls in their own counties and globalist win, they forget it is the People who have the greatest power. When there is nothing left to plunder, kill or buy, your billions are useless, make fire wood.

Woowoo
Woowoo
Jun 2, 2023 1:27 PM

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NickM
NickM
Jun 2, 2023 8:22 AM

The Big Picture.

I think anti-anti-Semitism stormtroop operations are merely one among many a desperate last throw by the AZC (Anglo Zionazi Capitalists). Like the nonwar war against Russia in Ukraine, the nonwar war against China in Taiwan, and the desperate attempt by New Liebour and New Beeb to regain credibility. The world is changing massively – tectonic plates are shifting across the globe – and the AZC West is doing a Canute. Here are some shifting tectonic plates:

“Dr Jay Smith vs Dr Shabir Ally. Debate.”
Scholars are beginning to read the Koran as Literature, same as Spinoza began to shockh his fellow Jews by reading the Old Testament as Literature 400 years ago. Spinoza was followed by Christian scholars 200 years later, with beneficial results for both religions. The Koran was found by an Egyption professor to contain Semitic poetry from before the time of Mohammed, which caused a riot of denial among his “exam funking students” (see Robert Graves, The White Goddess). German scholars have extended his work, and found that most of the Koran is copied from poetic hymns written in Aramaic (the original Semitic language of the Christian Orthodox Church – the language that Jesus and his Disciples spoke). It will take about 400 years for Muslims to accept these findings, but when they do it will help to dispel blind superstition and spread rational understanding between The Peoples of the Book.
https://youtu.be/m9mXrFZ6E_Q

“U.S. Allies DUMP U.S. Treasury Bonds”
https://youtu.be/cHgxmy-w4GU
“Countries worldwide are dropping the U$D”
https://youtu.be/kz5UmwhQuiU
Even NetanYahoo and the Bank of England are hedging their bets, waiting to see which way to jump: Dollar or Yuan. Hence Unclle $am’s desperate attempts to force his flock back into the fold.

“Middle Corridor between Europe and Asia”
The rise of China and Russia is causing global transport to extend further East. Ukraine is an important hub in China’s Belt-and-Road initiative. This explains desperate attempts by The Men from Uncle to keep Ukraine destabilized. Ukraine as EurAsian Corridor is a much larger perspective than Ukraine as New Khazaria or New Israel.
https://youtu.be/mstolgDkzkQ

“China’s Rise Has ME Declaring Independence from US”
Only a year ago I was referring to the Gulf Sheikdoms as CEOs of Rothschild oil companies. But no longer. China has done the hitherto unthinkable: made peace between Shia Iran, Multi-faith Syria and Sunni Arabia. These countries (and other hungry sheep, in Africa and America) are knocking at the door of the SCO (Shangai Coop Org). The World Leadership plate is now shifing away from its 500 year old Judeo Christian location.
https://youtu.be/m4fj6Chyz18

“Dutch Boers Complete Victory over EU Greens”
Third round in the Boer Wars. First round was won by the military AZC victory over the Afrikaaner Boers in 1899. Second round was won by the electoral Boer victory over the English-speaking United party after WW2. The third round has just been won by Dutch Boers against Anglo Zio Capitalist (WEF) attempts to impoverish the people of the EU$A by insane “Green” restrictions on farming and energy. This is a far bigger victory for the common people, and will resound far beyond petty anti-anti-”Semitic” stormtrooper operations because it concerns “our daily bread”. Food First!
https://youtu.be/Ylu0YzZR8xI

NickM
NickM
May 31, 2023 1:11 PM

“Farage hails Victory over Russiagate smear”

https://youtu.be/ztrlQgzH3aE

Woowoo
Woowoo
Jun 1, 2023 9:58 AM
Reply to  NickM

LOL woke Nigel and co crying over a comment someone made.
so much for free speech or was it really about Cambridge Analytica/Facebook scandal?

Carole Cadwalladr ordered to pay £1.2m costs in Arron Banks libel trial
Journalist Carole Cadwalladr has been ordered to pay legal costs of around £1.2 million to Arron Banks after he partially won an appeal in a long-running libel dispute.
Brexit campaigner Mr Banks originally lost his case against Ms Cadwalladr for her remarks in a speech and a tweet.
In February he succeeded in partially reversing that at the Court of Appeal.
Ms Cadwalladr said it was a “dark day for press freedom”. Banks called it “vindication”.
The case centred on comments Ms Cadwalladr made in a Technology, Entertainment, Design (TED) talk broadcast online in April 2019, in which she accused Mr Banks of lying about “his covert relationship with the Russian government”, as well as a tweet linking to the speech.
Mr Banks argued her remarks were “false and defamatory” and sought damages and an injunction to restrain the continued publication of the remarks.

In June 2022, Mrs Justice Steyn ruled in favour of Ms Cadwalladr, concluding she held a “reasonable belief” that her comments were in the public interest until April 2020, when the Electoral Commission announced that a National Crime Agency investigation concluded there was no evidence to support the allegations against Mr Banks or his companies.
Mr Banks then went to the Court of Appeal, which partially ruled in his favour, concluding that it had in fact been defamatory for the allegations to still be published after it had become clear that they were unsubstantiated.
However it upheld other rulings made by Justice Steyn, including that Mr Banks had not proved that what Ms Cadwalladr tweeted had caused or was likely to cause “serious harm to his reputation”.
Subsequently, court documents dated 17 May said Mr Banks “was the successful party on the appeal and overall”, and that Ms Cadwalladr must pay 60% of the businessman’s original costs – listing an interim figure of £400,000.
She must also repay almost £800,000 in costs that Mr Banks paid her after he initially lost the case.
In addition, she was ordered to pay a third of his costs at the Court of Appeal – £52,000.

Ms Cadwalladr said her legal team expects the final figure to be significantly lower.
She said she was “hugely disappointed” by the Court of Appeal’s decision and by UK libel laws generally.
“This decision has huge ramifications for any news organisation or journalist who believes that the overwhelming public interest of a story will enable them to speak truth to power,” she said, adding that “many abuses of power” in the UK go untold because “our defamation laws are among the most repressive in the world”.
The ruling said she must also issue an apology and delete some tweets.
“It held me liable … even though it acknowledged I was not the publisher and do not control TED’s website,” she said.
Mr Banks said in a tweet the costs would exceed £1m. He said he had repeatedly tried to settle the case, and called the ruling “vindication”.

The court ruling said it had “considered” Ms Cadwalladr’s comments on the “free speech considerations” of the case, saying that “in our view, our allocation of costs fairly reflects [Ms Cadwalladr’s] partial success in defending” publication of the talk and tweet.
Ms Cadwalladr – an investigative reporter who writes for The Guardian and who played an important role in unveiling the Cambridge Analytica/Facebook scandal – has set up a crowdfunding website to pay her legal fees.

Mr Banks is a prominent Brexit campaigner, and founded the campaign group Leave.EU

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-65644475

Koba
Koba
Jun 3, 2023 1:36 PM
Reply to  Woowoo

Take a wild guess what religion cadwalladr is. Starts with a J.

Johnny
Johnny
May 31, 2023 12:33 PM

Truth be known, the largest sector of the human race that has been murdered, used for cannon fodder, imprisoned, abused, exploited, discriminated against, punished, pilloried, mocked and ignored, has been the working class of every nation.
Tens of millions of them, sacrificed on the altar of Mammon.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
May 31, 2023 6:21 AM

Holocaust Memorials

There are large numbers of holocaust memorials in the United States. I saw one being constructed near Dealey Plaza in the Northern Hemisphere summer of 2018. Sadly none of these memorials are dedicated to the victims of the Native American or African American slavery holocausts.

NickM
NickM
May 31, 2023 6:40 AM

How many Red Indians contribute to Party funds? How many Red Indians are senior civil servants, senior academics and top businessmen? How many Red Indians are bankers? How many Red Indians own news media and PR companies? How many Red Indians are Pulitzer Prize authors.

When Red Indians do all these things they will change public opinion enough to build all the memorials to themselves that they like.

Same applies to Afro-Americans. But these two groups better hurry before the word “Holocaust” carries a copyright notice, Jewish-only; like the presidency of Israel and Ukraine.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 31, 2023 8:14 AM
Reply to  NickM

“Red Indians”? Really?

NickM
NickM
May 31, 2023 2:02 PM

Shows my age. Pedant’s corner:

Most people recognise the term Red Indian as a short popular term for American Aboriginal, and for no other ancestry.

Whereas the term Native American is not only longer than Red Indian but also less precise: it could apply to anybody born (Latin: Natus) anywhere on the American continent (from Northern Alaska to Southern Patagonia} and of any ancestry (from Irish to Chinese).

The term Indigenous American is merely a longer and equally ambiguous way of saying Native American:

Indigenous derives from the Latin noun indigena (meaning “native”), which was formed by combining Old Latin indu (meaning “in” or “within”) with the verb gignere (meaning “to beget”).

The correct term, Aboriginal, is not popular because the populace believe Aboriginals are found only in Australia.

Kacsynski2
Kacsynski2
Jun 1, 2023 10:17 PM
Reply to  NickM

Slavoj Zizek tells a story about how he’d met a Native American that didn’t mind the name Red Indian. To paraphrase, Because it’s a reminder of the stupidity of the White man, as he thought he was in India.

Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
May 30, 2023 10:56 PM

Nicely done!

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 9:50 PM

The Poll Lady @ ThePollLady

“Petro Poroshenko was seen in an underground shelter today”.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxUuWNYXsAAjVhE?format=jpg&name=medium

The Story Teller @ I_am_the_Story

“That is what he [Porky Poro the Chocolate President] said in his speech,”Their [ie, Russian speaking Ukrainian] kids will spent time in bomb shelters.[while Ukrainian speaking kids will go to school] ”

Karma is the bitch you unleash to savage someone else but she sneaks around and bites you in the rear.

Vagabard
Vagabard
May 30, 2023 11:36 PM
Reply to  NickM

Looks pretty cramped as shelters go. Underground metros/subways would have a little more room.

Mind you, there may be a few advantages … if only Sweet-Karma-in-Blue would put down her phone for a second…

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
May 31, 2023 7:47 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

“Looks pretty cramped as shelters go.”

…- Well I ‘spect it would be, what with Ukraine’s answer to Willy Wonka in there…

Sam
Sam
May 31, 2023 8:01 AM
Reply to  NickM

I ate a Roshen brand chocolate bar in his honor last night, with a shit-eating grin on my face as he cowered underground.

Note – Roshen is the name of his “chocolate” (actually, confectionary) company.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 31, 2023 12:02 PM
Reply to  Sam

Yup. That’s why Porky is also known as Count Chocula.

mjh
mjh
May 30, 2023 9:41 PM

Just a query to the Admin people: I realize you folk are busy, but am wondering about something. I posted a perfectly civil and rational comment a little while ago (concerning my own experience with how the defense of Israel has changed over the years). It went up at once. I then noticed a small error in it, actually in the punctuation!, and quickly edited it to correct the error. But when I attempted to re-post it, it went into “pending” with a note attached: Spam. How?? Why?!! The content of the comment did not change at all, just a little punctuation correction by a retired yet still obsessive person who once worked as an editor! I do hope my comment reappears!

Will - Admin3
Admin
Will - Admin3
May 30, 2023 10:13 PM
Reply to  mjh

Apologies.

I have returned your comment from the abyss.

The spam filter gets greedy sometimes.

mjh
mjh
May 30, 2023 11:11 PM
Reply to  Will - Admin3

Thanks so much, I see it here now.

mjh
mjh
May 30, 2023 8:54 PM

I am going to take a risk here and 1) slightly disagree or diverge a bit from Hopkins, one of my favorite writers here and 2) try to say something not totally condemnatory about the existence of Israel. I grew up in New Jersey, just across the river from NYC in the 1960s and 70s. The area where I lived had a pretty high % of Jewish people. Indeed, as the saying goes “some of my best friends were Jews” — indeed my very best friend in high school was Jewish. My first boyfriend was Jewish as well. (I on the other hand am Christian.) She (let’s call her “C} and her family were supporters of the idea of Jews having a homeland they could move to and thought this land should be where the Biblical land of Israel had been. Their rationale was that Jews had long been a persecuted minority in much of the world; the Holocaust was just the most intense and dramatic phase of this long persecution. But they were not adverse to criticizing Israel on specific actions and policies. And they certainly were quite capable of joking about the topic: indeed, a running joke with C’s family was “which borough of New York City should have been turned into a Jewish homeland?” As I remember it, they felt that Israel was wrong to constantly try to expand its borders. They thought Israel to blame — at least in part — for the horrors of the 1973 war because it had expanded into the Sinai. They believed the non Jewish people living inside Israel (I don’t recall them ever using the term “Palestinians” — it wasn’t yet in common usage as a term) should have been properly compensated for the land taken from them and resettled elsewhere. Now, of course, we can say taking the land at all was wrong or even evil, but in the aftermath of WW2, it seemed quite rational to a great many people. There was also talk in C’s household about whether turning Israel into a secular state at some point wasn’t perhaps a good idea. In short, the discussion was rational and debate was possible, even encouraged. This is what I thought of, and deep in some part of my brain, what I still think of when I hear the phrase “support for Israel” and Zionism. Alas, such a worldview no longer exists. Maybe C’s family was always a minority among American Jews. I don’t know. (Oh God, I am admitting I don’t know something…don’t all faint!)

NickM
NickM
May 31, 2023 7:12 AM
Reply to  mjh

“Alas, such a worldview no longer exists.”

I too remember – and welcomed – the flood of sympathy for Jews and for Israel because of Nazi atrocities. But I also remember that pre-War Europe was rife with contempt for Jews, a contempt that was particularly noticeable at the start of the 20th century. By 1938, with the collapse of Republican Spain, countries in Europe were either openly Fascist (eg, Spain, Portugal, Romania, Poland, Hungary, Italy and Germany) or diplomatically pro-Fascist (eg Britain and France). Read “The Chamberlain / Hitler Collusion”.

For the past 30 years I have been warning my Jewish friends and family that Israel’s racist politics could re-waken anti-Jewish prejudice. As you say, there are many Jews who agree, both abroad and in Israel. However, it seems to me that the bulk of Jewish public opinion in Israel and abroad is still riding high in post-War triumph: “We always win”.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
May 30, 2023 6:16 PM

To any persons that want to claim any, and all, criticism of Israel, is just hate or anti-semitism, or is invented, then let us talk about these factual events:

King David Hotel Bombing
Deir Yassin Massacre
Operation Susannah (Lavon Affair)
USS Liberty Incident
Robert Maxwell and Promis Software
Jonathan Pollard and theft of nuclear tech
Talpiot Program and Unit 8200
Dancing Israelis on 9-11

Go.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
May 31, 2023 6:26 AM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

JFK
RFK
Mahatma Gandhi
The (unrelated) Gandhi family
Olof Palme
Yasser Arafat
The many Neocon wars.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
May 31, 2023 2:24 PM

I don’t disagree that there is evidence of ZOG involvement in all the events you list.

What I have listed are events directly linked to, or directly perpetrated by, Israel, and or agents of Israel.

I think it is important to make this distinction, when laying criticism directly at the Israeli government, and their own malfeasance.

Linda Ferland
Linda Ferland
May 30, 2023 5:12 PM

The Zionists sure got a win with pushing ‘anti-Semitism’ so that people would veer away from anti-Zionism, which it should be! So many are now against ALL Jewish people & can’t see that there’s a really huge difference between anti-Semitism & anti-Zionism! It’s like being against all Blacks, Chinese, Russians, etc. There’s good & bad in every nationality. The good Jewish have been put under the same umbrella as the Zionists & those who support Zionists. I keep wondering when this world will wake up & evolve!

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 9:59 PM
Reply to  Linda Ferland

“The good Jewish have been put under the same umbrella as the Zionists”.

And the good Zionists have been put under the same umbrella as the Zionazis. It’s the bad apples that make the whole box smell.

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
May 30, 2023 4:55 PM

One can only be a Semite by being born in the Levant, and speaking a language derived from Phoenician or Assyrian descent.
That means Palestinians are Semites, NOT European or North American born Jews.
The Palestinians are the actual Semites in the Levant.

Even “holocaust” is a mis-appropriated definition to any people’s genocide, and eventually became a trope to guilt trip the mis-educated and dis-infdormed.

wardropper
wardropper
May 30, 2023 9:23 PM
Reply to  Mann Friedmann

It’s true.
Israel’s most vehement enemies right now are the arabs, who have their roots in the semitic races too.
Strictly speaking, modern anti-semitism is an idiotic concept, making as little sense as judging a man based on whether or not he is circumcised – which is nobody’s business but his own.

NickM
NickM
May 31, 2023 7:26 AM
Reply to  wardropper

“which is nobody’s business but his own.”

Not true: circumcision (male or female) is a badge to show which group owns you. Like scars on the face of some savage tribes (eg, 19th century German upper class males).

Hodad
Hodad
Jun 1, 2023 11:41 PM
Reply to  Mann Friedmann

To further clarify, Semites are such because they speak a Semitic tongue, and those include Arabic, Hebrew, and Aramaic. I have found no evidence that Yiddish is a Semitic language.

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
Jun 3, 2023 11:05 PM
Reply to  Hodad

Big thanks.
I have considered that my previous comment was incomplete.
I wish to add that Semitism is not based on biology.

George Mc
George Mc
May 30, 2023 4:47 PM

It’s a bit Ukraine-ish this, isn’t it? Get the old stuff back. Dig up the old hits. Cold war sentiment. The anti-schmanti-Semitism rhapsody. And it gets you really riled …

… and then you realise it’s all an attempt to get you back on the side of those revealed as such fucking frauds over the covid crap.

Who cares? Fuck them!

George Mc
George Mc
May 30, 2023 4:37 PM

Kinda off topicish:

I have the strange feeling that the “cost of living” crisis is where the real action is. See here for a curious little trip:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/05/28/uk-recession-inflation-interest-rates-bank-of-england-bonds/

“Prepare for pain: Britain is hurtling towards a new crisis

Homeowners and businesses will pay the price for the Bank of England’s King Canute moment”

It’s an oceanic voyage through interminable realms of waffle-de-doo but this bit seems clear enough:

“Weale …” (Who? Oh never mind. One of them Big Bankie People) “….suggests the Bank’s blind belief that inflation is “strongly influenced by businesses’ expectations” is naive at best. Attempting to talk down inflation by managing business expectations is a folly.

[Former Bank governor] Mervyn King referred to this as the King Canute theory of inflation,” he says.

Mervyn King said central bankers cannot hope inflation will remain low simply because they say it will … Part of the UK’s problem is that there is more collective bargaining here than in the US. Doctors, rail workers and teachers have all threatened more strike action if their pay demands are not met.”

So here’s the scenario: These beleaguered and ever so naïve bankers just haven’t got it sussed. They are like King Canute who, don’t forget, was trying to hold back the sea! Yes – that’s apparently what inflation is: a force of nature …. though if there’s bad guys they are definitely these damned strikers who are forcing the prices up.

So now you know why these strikes are getting such positive coverage.

Howard
Howard
May 30, 2023 4:07 PM

In case it hasn’t already been noted in another article’s forum, Henry Kissinger turned 100 on May 27th. My first thought upon hearing it was to wonder how much blood not his own has passed through his veins.

Some men step aside and let others continue the task of eliminating humanity when they reach a certain age. Obviously not all men.

Woowoo
Woowoo
May 31, 2023 1:06 PM
Reply to  Howard

My first thought upon hearing it was to wonder how much blood not his own has passed through his veins.

He looks the type to drink it.

Captain Spock
Captain Spock
May 30, 2023 3:50 PM

I enjoy your writing style CJ.

The entire stage play is so staggeringly absurd right now… Feels to me like The Creator of the game is inviting us to open our hearts and finally discover the sense of humour which embraces all of it as a cosmic joke, and sets us free from the insanity and torture of the ego bubble distortions at the same time..

Destiny is calling and the insane, maniacal characters on the stage who appear to be running the show and driving us to mass suicide, are in fact reminding us (me at least) that this is all a stage play and the game is to wake up to what’s really true and eternal within the heart and soul..

I reckon the all knowing deity Sol is just waiting on the right moment in time to release a solar flare so massive, that it’ll wipe out all the technology they have so patiently developed to enslave humanity with..

Keep the faith and deepen your love and humour… It’s all we are and have at the end of the day… Some trip this.

BuelahMan
BuelahMan
May 30, 2023 3:34 PM

Given the horrors of the Holocaust and the history of Nazi Germany, this was quite an accomplishment.

LOL (even the propaganda can’t be denied on an anti-anti-semitism posting.)

The Nazi card requires no bravery. Its basically assuming the position they want you to assume. In other words, you still lose.

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
May 30, 2023 2:11 PM

Woke culture has us focusing on labels and facades, not the actual substance of culture. I just want to end the uglinessification of the planet. Can we do that already? Capitalism has gone off the rails, for about a century now, and it will just get worse with the whole product-to-service subscription economy they’ve cooked up. Intentionally uglifying the world for profit is the only enemy we face because it’s totally unnecessary. I’m with George Jetson screaming, “Jane! Stop this crazy thing!” I take comfort in knowing that you can’t be wrong and strong for very long. Eventually, the planned obsolescence craze will kill itself off.

From Planned Obsolescence to the Plan to Own Nothing

Is Capitalism Actually Efficient?

Literally nobody
Literally nobody
May 30, 2023 12:29 PM

So there’s really no basis to the ‘conspiracy theories’ about ‘the jews’ whatsoever…and the explanation for the origin of the theories is what more true? more obvious? more rational? than the theories themselves?…but if so then on what basis can it be condemned except as a self serving pragmatism…but if so then where is the wrong doing for another to serve his own interests.
Or to put it simply there are friend enemy distinctions and you want us to believe A) there is no such group as The Jews B) it doesn’t apply to them or C) It does and that’s a good thing

Edwige
Edwige
May 30, 2023 9:27 AM

From Roger Waters’ covid statement in spring 2020:
“Thank God for Anthony Fauci… He’s obviously an extremely highly educated, briliant man. How he has stayed in a position of any power, nobody will ever know”. He added: “The other thing… that interests me is that all the good people out there – I saw Bill Gates has written a long thing recently”.

Hardly worth mentioning nor remembering… it’s not like covid provided a litmus test for where these public figures “really stand”. BTW in addition to who his second wife was or being photographed with Ghislaine Maxwell, there’s the matter that Waters’ mother was from a bloodline aristocratic family. Funny how many cultural figures that turns out to be true of – see his bandmate David Gilmour for starters. The Fraud even has a cover story up this morning:
https://dumptheguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/may/29/britain-welfare-rich-art-artists-housing-social-security

So it’s Tory austerity wot done it, not that the arts are full of controlled assets to be deployed to nudge all those who hate politicians but love their musicians and film stars?

What all those rock’n’roll rebels did during the plandemic should never be forgotten. The honarable exceptions fit on the fingers of one hand. A ginned-up fake controversy can’t wipe all this from those who still have memories.

The follies of anti-anti- anti-semitism indeed.

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
May 30, 2023 9:32 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Well said. No doubt you’ll be bashed for it. People need to believe in idols – the faker the better it sometimes seems.

George Mc
George Mc
May 30, 2023 3:29 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Rock stars – don’t you just love ‘em? I never carried out any sociological analysis but I recall reading about how many of them were middle class to start with. They were mostly sycophants dressed up in contrarian outfits – and what could be more bourgeois than contrarianism? “Ooh look at me! I’m so different!” whilst they covertly look to see what’s “cool” to champion.

Howard
Howard
May 30, 2023 3:52 PM
Reply to  Edwige

What have they/has he (Roger Waters) don’t lately? In the Spring of 2020 it was still remotely possible for some inattentive self-absorbed types (like Rock Stars) to think Covid a genuine “thing.”

Famous people – especially, it seems, pop musicians – should make their mantra “It’s better to remain quiet and have people think you a fool than to open your mouth and leave no doubt!”

Thiekbalj
Thiekbalj
Jun 1, 2023 2:54 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Never leave Edwidge on 33 thumbs up!
Great post. Mark Devlin has an amazing podcast diving into all the social engineering done through music. Highly recommended
Good Vibrations podcast Mark Devlin

James Charles
James Charles
May 30, 2023 9:06 AM

Look, look, over here, it’s the ‘wicked’ Jews, Russians/Chinese or the W.E.F..
Don’t look over there at the plutocrats and the M.I.C., there’s nothing to see?

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
May 30, 2023 9:03 AM

Is everyone already forgetting Roger Waters is a covid shill?

Are we just going to pretend these people such as him, Caitlin Johnson and George Galloway didn’t out themselves as gatekeepers?

Whatever they’re selling, from now on you know it’s been okayed by the establishment or they wouldn’t be selling it.

Duncan Wearing
Duncan Wearing
Jun 5, 2023 8:09 AM
Reply to  Tilly Petersen

Nailed it.

Thom
Thom
May 30, 2023 8:54 AM

It’s just a code for ‘Anti-Americanism’. The American government uses Israel and racial sensitivities as a cover to smear anyone who opposes American foreign policy.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
May 30, 2023 8:42 AM

I’m sure that Christian Wakeford MP is salivating at the prospect of tens of thousands of deaths in Ukraine, as he will undoubtedly have voted to support all US policy, no matter how genocidal and insane. That’s because he is a dedicated on-message servant of the Globalist autocracy, not a representative of people in a constituency.

He should not be welcome anywhere where human life is valued until such time as the tens of thousands of deaths he has so gallantly supported come back to haunt him in a court of law……

He might even like to ask himself whether some extremely unsavoury Jewish individuals have been controlling Ukraine from the shadows, since I am certain that he will cite Viktor Kolomoiski as a model of upstanding Jewish behaviour next time he pontificates in the vicinity of a synagogue….

It is non-negotiable that the USA funded the overthrow of the legitimate President of Ukraine in 2014 and if Wakeford says otherwise, he should be hung from a lamp post.

It is non-negotiable that ethnic cleansing of the Russian culture in Ukraine has been driven by the Kiev authorities since 2014 and if Wakeford says that is any different to nazi behaviour toward Jews in the early to mid 1930s, then he should be hung from a lamp post.

Finally, it is non-negotiable that Russia was a reliable supplier of cheap energy to Europe for 40 years and that the global terrorism of the USA was the primary driver behind the destruction of the Nordstream Pipelines. If Wakeford considers such behaviour acceptable, he should be hung from a lamp post. If Wakeford says that a 500% increase in energy costs, just so that the USA can sell LNG to Europe is sane policy, he needs either lifetime incarceration in a loony bin or a noose around his neck.

Wakeford cannot be a Labour MP under Starmer and hold humanitarian views. It is not possible since Starmer is a cocksucker to Washington and Israel and will do whatever they tell him to, no matter how insane. Any attempt by Wakeford to suggest that a Jewish apartheid state of population under 20 million should have strategic control of UK domestic and foreign policy should see him given 24 hours to leave the country forever or be hung from a lamp post for treason.

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 10:45 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

“Wakeford cannot be a Labour MP under Starmer and hold humanitarian views. It is not possible since Starmer is a cocksucker to Washington and Israel and will do whatever they tell him to, no matter how insane”.

In other words, Stormer is a B.Liarite, and Labour is still Liebore. And it happened because Jeremy C (C for coward) threw Labour’s staunchest spokesmen under the bus to appease the attack dogs of an Anglo Zionazi Capitalist faction known as New Labour.

And now J.Coward himself has been shopped — by the same AZC dogs which JC fed by chopping his best friends.

Matt Black
Matt Black
May 30, 2023 8:27 AM

It doesn’t help Antisemitism when the entire “covid” narrative, from media reports to
“experts” to “vaccines” is 100% jewish.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 30, 2023 9:39 AM
Reply to  Matt Black

Congratulations. We are putting you forward for the coveted “most transparent & idiotic attempt at misdirection in a comments section” award.

Now feel free to endlessly upvote yourself using a VPN.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
May 30, 2023 2:29 PM

While Matt Black’s statement is exaggerated, it isn’t completely inaccurate.

If you actually analyze the leadership of many of the institutions of the CONVID1984 hoax, you will find many Israelites in key positions of authority. This includes Big Pharma. A number that is not proportional to their very low percentage of population.

Just like the fliers being thrown around different communities in the USA, that are characterized as “antiemetic”, listing all of these Israelites in positions of power, however never called not accurate.

This is not to suggest that the average Israelite is to blame. Israel, and those that claim allegiance to same, is just like every government of the world, corrupt.

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
May 30, 2023 5:04 PM
Reply to  Matt Black

Almost! There are many shabos goy that are wannabes.
I’m sure the “anti-anti-semites” that admin here will have their ignorance proudly displayed.

Will - Admin3
Admin
Will - Admin3
May 30, 2023 6:11 PM
Reply to  Mann Friedmann

Ugh. I suppose that makes you an “anti-anti-antisemite”.

What a fun game.

But I think you should know that your opinions aren’t as controversial, interesting or as dangerous as you think, and your goading is both pointless and childish. You’re not targeted, you just spam posts and that puts you into pending.

Spew your banal observations as much as you wish, sir. More power to you,

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
May 31, 2023 5:34 PM
Reply to  Will - Admin3

It’s not a game.
And you need to concentrate.
And that is the problem with many people who are given authority; they forget to manage the problem and get lost in the “authority” and present false superiority.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 31, 2023 5:52 PM
Reply to  Mann Friedmann

Please don’t attack this site and make demeaning sweeping judgements about people and then complain because you can’t have your cake and eat it, and people pull you up about it. That’s not mature.

The comments are what we make of them. Let’s focus on good communication. Let’s spread some kindness to give our harsh words – when harsh words are strictly necessary – some weight, punctuation and meaning.

Aren’t you utterly bored of the censorious monotone and toxic cynicism that’s the norm below the line? It’s deeply ‘uncool’ to admit Offg has any merit or usefulness, or credit the staff with any respect or acknowledgment, while at the same time many of you enjoy using this free resource every day and clearly get a lot out of it. That’s the game you’re playing. It’s entitled, it’s hypocritical and it’s deeply complacent unless we become self aware.

Offg is more than somewhere to vent. I know we’ve all had our hearts broken repeatedly since 2020 and before, but let’s dare to love again. Let’s dare to be nicer. Thanks,

A2

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
Jun 3, 2023 11:08 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Then don’t attack commenters.
It reveals a sense of superiority.

By the way: I am a subscriber.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 4, 2023 1:43 AM
Reply to  Mann Friedmann

Well I think you started it. But that’s water under the bridge now. I hope we can do better as a community. A2

Vagabard
Vagabard
May 30, 2023 11:52 PM
Reply to  Matt Black

Reported for antisemitism

Sunface Jack
Sunface Jack
May 30, 2023 7:12 AM

Germany or the German people are great. It’s their Government that stinks and their obedience to authority is certainly a concern.

They surrendered their Sovereignty to the WEF and Belgium?

Why on earth has Germany’ Government decided to sacrifice their economy on the alter of climate change and then decide to support Neo-Nazi’s in Ukraine?

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 10:57 PM
Reply to  Sunface Jack

Why indeed. There is a video by Difference Frames the World (a Chinese blog on Youtube) with the interesting title: Why is the West stuffed with Low Grade Leaders?

rechenmacher
rechenmacher
May 31, 2023 11:11 AM
Reply to  Sunface Jack

Because of CORRUPTION. In capital letters, indeed.

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 6:59 AM

“After all, the neo-Nazis are the good guys, right? I mean, as long as they are fighting the Russians for us, and not supporting those nasty Palestinians, or criticizing the State of Israel, or global capitalism, or opposing Con-19″

That’s it, in a nutshell.

Bubba Rogowski
Bubba Rogowski
May 30, 2023 6:01 AM

ADL’S US-ISRAEL POLICE EXCHANGES MILITARIZE THE POLICE
“The ADL’s cover is blown once and for all. There’s nothing Jewish about fighting against Palestinian freedom or militarizing the police.”
“Millions of people who have suffered the brutal repression of militarized U.S. and Israeli police forces.”

https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/2022/03/revealed-adl-us-israel-police-exchanges/

Woowoo
Woowoo
Jun 1, 2023 8:59 PM
Reply to  Bubba Rogowski

that article got a u.k politician Rebecca Long-Bailey sacked for retweeting it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53183085

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
May 30, 2023 5:26 AM

Antisemitism is a euphemism for hate speech, and a McGuffin for censorship.
The majority of the Antisemitism, assuming any of the assertions can be proven, is perpetrated or contrived, by the very people crying about it. Specifically Israeli government agencies like the ADL, Unit 8200, and Mossad.

Isreal as a nation, and the Jewish people (Assuming that is a real thing), are a shield for Rothschild. The very reason any criticism of Rothschild is immediately characterized as antisemitic. The creation of Isreal being forever linked to Rothschild and the Balfour Agreement.

This is not to suggest that all people that identify as Jewish are evil. Just more humans that have been manipulated to think a certain way for the benefit of TPTB.

Stop The Prison Mentality
Stop The Prison Mentality
May 30, 2023 4:17 AM

There are worse things in this world than anti semites.

Hmmmm, maybe spineless people who use expressions like “truth should be sacred” and then fuck that idea up the Khyber Pass just because it puts a big dent in their imaginary reality. And provide no explanation for their spinelessness.

Yeah, no mental health issues there, for sure.

Loser.

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
May 30, 2023 4:07 AM

I’ve not visited for a while, so I come back to check in and this is priority post of the day.

Parhaps sometime soon we will get a post exposing the unusual global hike in death rates since the injections.

Further, we may even be able to find a post holding individuals of the main stream media to account who spent the last three years bullying, discriminating and blatantly bullshitting. Seems most have now forgotten as they move onto the next distraction.

Bored now
Bored now
May 30, 2023 8:23 AM

Why not stop being a backseat driver and write about those things yourself? Its easy to criticise, fun too but instead of telling other people what they should do you could be the change you want to see in the world. Just a thought.

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
May 30, 2023 9:47 PM
Reply to  Bored now

We are supposed to believe that OG plucks random articles from so called critical thinkers off the internet. With all the opinion out there why not mix it up and single out some of the tyrants individually. Further, it sounds like you have have a dog in the fight here.

We keep getting steered down the path of the same topics over and over if you have not noticed. When you use the same writers over and over the topics and their personal bias becomes apparent.

Why not post some stuff from Stefan Lanker, Andrew Kaufman, Sam Baily, Anna Von Reitz. These are just a few who expose the “root” causes” of our problems today. For example, there is no virus, and how our sovereignty has been switched for their corporate systems of commerce without our consent or disclosure.

So, if you want to discuss Rodger Waters “on stage”, one the establishments actors, then crack on. Just realize some of us have left this sandpit which has been custom designed to contain you.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 31, 2023 12:37 AM

But maybe you’re leaving this sandpit for a much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much , much smaller sandpit, a sand bubble, in which you swap tales of non-existent contagion and live in a new Golden Age because viruses haven’t been isolated, but which is entirely irrelevant and is a controlled cul de sac.

Just playing devils’s advocate, but what if you’ve been had with this ‘no viruses’ stuff?

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
May 31, 2023 5:13 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

It’s an interesting point Sam.

I believe the “no virus camp” has no tales to tell, they just want to hold “the science” to account. Those who make a claim should have some evidence. This is how “science” works, right? Perhaps “the science” is different.

Anyway, it’s a topic that gets little attention here, in fact it get challenged by admins. Never have these people had a post published on OG and I’m betting they never will.

What these people are attempting to do is show people they are being lied to on a fundamental level and have been since birth.

The past three years has not been the result of miss management, a mistake or misunderstanding. This rabbit has been pulled from the hat many times before. Until we accept that it will continue to be used against the majority.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 31, 2023 4:00 PM

You’re wrong. We’ve published a few pieces by Torsten Englebrecht, whose work I find fantastic. It’s always right to hold science to task. However, many argue the ‘no viruses’ or ‘terrain theory’ approach has logical and tactical disadvantages. Many think we should focus on demonstrating the pandemic hoax, a case which is much more achievable because it’s self evident – with no need to discuss virology – and which doesn’t jeopardise or contradict any future case for ‘no viruses’ if we so wish. It serves as an extremely important waypoint going forwards.

Which might be why there’s a lot of effort to seed division over this issue, atm.

The virus discussion is certainly nothing to get divided over.

As I said, I’m playing devil’s advocate above. I sincerely hope you have an easier time applying the ‘no viruses’ logic out in the real world than you do here.

As this topic has had a lot of traction on Catte’s recent piece, let’s drop it now.

Thank you. A2

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
May 30, 2023 10:36 AM

77th shill

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
May 30, 2023 9:31 PM
Reply to  Tilly Petersen

“When the comments section ain’t going the way you planed”.

Howard
Howard
May 30, 2023 9:51 PM

Yes, and after a post “holding individuals of the main stream media to account” they could do a post explaining to us why water is wet.

In other words, every single post for the past three years has held these individuals to account. It isn’t really necessary to keep stating the obvious over and over and over.

Twothumbs
Twothumbs
May 30, 2023 3:56 AM

Can one of the censors please explain why my reply to STPM was deleted?.

Did that hit a nerve too?

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
May 30, 2023 5:08 PM
Reply to  Twothumbs

Probably.
Every comment I post gets the “Pending” label.
I must be a closet Palestinian.

correspondencecommitttee
correspondencecommitttee
May 30, 2023 3:29 AM

Contemporaries of Hitler mocked him and his gang. Now the fascists find nazis and antisemites under every rock and are mocked for that. It doesn’t look like it’s going to end well for us, either.

hotrod31
hotrod31
May 30, 2023 2:24 AM

It is written … If you want to know who rules over you, look at who you aren’t allowed to criticize (George Orwell)
Hmmmm! … The peeps who engineered the boycotting of Germany and German businesses in 1932-33 and advocated the ‘smashing’ of Germany and the German people, go on to opine that it’s okay to discuss religion (Christianity …), or slavery, or most other things – but – want to dictate the parameters of our freedom-of-speech. Hypocrisy would be an understatement. MF!
Enough already …

eman
eman
May 30, 2023 2:50 AM
Reply to  hotrod31
hotrod31
hotrod31
May 30, 2023 5:31 AM
Reply to  eman

.. ’tis even easier to ‘make up stuff’ when you own or control 90-95+-% of the main-stream media, run Hollywierd – control most ‘Intelligence-Agencies’ and most of the governments around the world.
Did I mention printing FREE money and using the fiat-currency to buy everything in sight …

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 7:27 AM
Reply to  eman

Your Link is worth quoting extensively. It names names and cites data; in particular, the reference to U$ as a One-Dollar One-Vote Democracy:

The U.S. Government’s plan for World War Three in Europe is going to be run through NATO, but first the EU will be subordinated to NATO; and this was revealed in Washington DC on 5 April 2023, at a forum that was held by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, which, though controlled by the U.S. White House, receives its funding from all U.S.-allied Governments (including in Asia), and from the NATO-authorized armament manufacturers such as Lockheed Martin, and from U.S.-and-allied extraction corporations such as ExxonMobil, and from U.S.A. drug corporations such as Merck, and from U.S. high-tech such as Google, and from finance such as JPMorgan Chase [Rothschild’s flagship bank]. It is a public/private partnership that serves its donors to the extent of their donations to it [1 dollar = 1 vote] at its highest executive [CEO] level being controlled by the U.S. President and Congress.

Among its [ie, CSIS] top donors MUFG, the largest bank in Japan, and many foundations: here are only the biggest donors [ie, those with the most votes]:
——
Contributions $500,000 and up:
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation
Sarah Scaife Foundation
Smith Richardson Foundation

Contributions $200,000 – $499,999:
Academy of Korean Studies
Climate Investment Funds
Craig Newmark Philanthropies
Gordon and Betty Moore Foundation
Hewlett Foundation
Japan Center for Economic Research
Korea Foundation
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation
Sloan Foundation

Contributions $100,000 – $199,999:
Carnegie Corporation of New York
ClimateWorks Foundation
Diana Davis Spencer Foundation
Earth Genome
Henry Luce Foundation
SED Fund
Trusted Elections Fund
The Meijer Foundation

Contributions $65,000 – $99,999:
Charles Koch Foundation
Chey Institute for Advanced Studies
National Center for State Courts
Oceans 5
Open Philanthropy
Open Society Foundations
Rockefeller Brothers Fund
Tipping Point Fund
——
When Mussolini introduced his ideology, which he alternatively called fascism or corporationism (some translate it instead as “corporatism”), he described it as a fusion of government and big businesses; and this is what now exists, at least throughout the U.S.-and-allied sphere. Of course, each business is controlled on a one-dollar-one-vote basis (controlled by its largest stockholder(s)), but a democratic government is instead controlled on a one-person-one-vote basis (i.e., by the residents, instead of by the wealth); and, therefore, if the U.S. Government is controlled on a one-dollar-one-vote basis, which the empirical researches uniformly show it to be, then this is an entirely fascist operation (as defined by Mussolini) — not only on its corporate side, but also on its Government side.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 30, 2023 12:55 PM
Reply to  NickM

Excellent comment: Fascism?
Military/Industrial operatives
 
Airbus Space & Defense, BAE Systems, The Boeing Company, General Dynamics Corporation, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon Technologies Corporation, other less significant operations in over 140 countries…

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NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 7:02 AM
Reply to  hotrod31

Pedant’s corner: It was Voltaire said it, not Orwell.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
May 30, 2023 6:30 PM
Reply to  NickM

No evidence Voltaire ever said that. Or Orwell either. It’s an internet meme, like so many of those “quotes” people share on Facebook without bothering to verify.

i wish people would do a little due diligence.

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 9:33 PM

I bow to superior diligence.

In case one wishes to share that old “quote” on Facebook again:

“If you want to know who rules over you, look at who you aren’t allowed to criticize” — Internet meme.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
May 30, 2023 12:00 PM
Reply to  hotrod31

Judea declares war on Roger Waters.  😅 

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
May 30, 2023 1:43 AM

It’s different at sea, but you need to be at sea, when the storm comes, and you think oh shit – we are probably all going to die….bung the kids down into the cabin below, and my wife and me..screaming at our son – Do not do that…You’ve lost it – let it go as his new dinghy takes off…snapping the plastic anchor points…

“I can not Sail This Boat”…if you leave it trying to get your new dinghy back – we are all going to die – your Mum and Dad – and Your 2 kids…

So on the third attempt pots and pans going everywhere, and my wife and I hanging on for dear life doing 3 360 Degrees – he gets his dinghy back…

“Class”

So if anyone is in a bad way – and it might just be kids on paddle boards being blown out to sea when the wind changes….someone and sometimes my lad, rescues them…

Hardly ever makes any media…No one is the slightest bit interested unless someone dies…

You do not ask, what Religion you are…and have no interest in the colour of your skin..

If you have saved a life at sea – even if its just a kid, chasing after his football blowing away in the wind, and suddenly realises he can’t swim…and you bring him back to the beach – and his dad slags him off – for losing the football..

I didn’t say a word – but felt great for saving his life.

Someone years earlier had done the same for my Dad

So wtf are we fighting for on dry land?

There is no shortage of fish

You have been told there is – but its not true.

Go on – Get Jabbed Again – if you think it makes you better (JabsRGood)?

These evil bastards are trying to kill you – Read Animal Farm ot something

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Tony

tonyopmoc
tonyopmoc
May 30, 2023 12:05 AM

CJ Hopkins is one of my Stars, ..don’t knock it _ I don’t have many..

I was my Parent’s last mistake..they already had 4 kids – Catholic…(no condoms allowed)

So I grew up with mainly the children of immigrants escaping war from Eastern Europe WWII..a lot of their surnames were very long and many ended up with the letters ski

It’s entirely possible that some of my friends parents claimed to be jewish..but were now going to holy communion with me at the age of 7

I could never tell the diference between Girls from Eastern Europe and Englsh Girls – We were All The same….but somewhat different from American Girls (No Class)

What is going on now in The Ukraine is Completely Disgusting…

How many more do these Evil Bastards in Control want to kill – of some of the most Beautiful Young People in The World.

Still no one complains…and I am surrounded by brainwashed zombies…they couldn’t give a shit, when THEY were killing Brown People, and they don’t give a sh1t when THEY are killing White People in The Ukraine by War..and people of all colurs, races, religions, by Jabbing Them

so anti-semitism – what exactly is it???

I mean come on…if she is totally and completely beautiful, and she has become a good friend – you are hardly going to ask – what religion if any do your parents believe in.

We are increasingly being drowned with nonsense from evil, incredibly rich people, trying to kill us all.

How do we get them to stop?

Why are they doing it?

Tony

Duncan Wearing
Duncan Wearing
May 29, 2023 11:59 PM

Roger Waters is controlled opp.

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 7:28 AM
Reply to  Duncan Wearing

And so is Duncan Wearing.

Wolf Warrior
Wolf Warrior
May 30, 2023 7:55 AM
Reply to  Duncan Wearing

Duncan Wearing is controlled opp.

Duncan Wearing
Duncan Wearing
May 31, 2023 3:47 AM
Reply to  Duncan Wearing

Oh, no. I just criticized one of the Left’s sacred cows.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 31, 2023 2:19 PM
Reply to  Duncan Wearing

How dare you? And you are probably also against saving our nature. Smoker! You are a smoker.

NickM
NickM
May 31, 2023 3:17 PM
Reply to  Duncan Wearing

What you wrote is not criticism, merely unfounded accusation.

Criticism would examine all that the man said, separating the good, the bad and the bosh. I think the man’s belief in Con-19 is bosh, but his appreciation of Putin is good. He is not a “sacred cow” but moderately pro-Russian in a time of virulent Russian-bashing. He also praises Putin’s leadership at a time when demonization of “Putlen” is at its peak. This is what got him into trouble with the BBC and other MSM anti-Russian outlets:

“Pink Floyd star Roger Waters has used a speech to the United Nations to repeat his controversial claim that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was “provoked“.

“He called for a ceasefire and condemned Russia’s “illegal” invasion, but also denounced “provocateurs” in the West whom he claimed were responsible.

“Russia asked Waters to address the 15-member Security Council following an interview with a German newspaper, in which he praised Vladimir Putin’s leadership.”

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-64580688

Stop The Prison Mentality
Stop The Prison Mentality
May 29, 2023 11:13 PM

This is awesome. Throughly enjoying the censorship.

Original post goes pending then gonzo.
Second post questioning that is just deleted, presumably to cover the censorship.

Twothumbs
Twothumbs
May 30, 2023 1:45 AM

Must have hit a nerve.

Simon
Simon
May 31, 2023 8:58 AM

Did yez just give yourself a couple dozen thumbs ups there? Come on, be honest now, ye did didn’t ye. I mean 53 is a bit full on. It stands out from the rest of everything here a little bit too much. Dial it back next time.

Awful nice of these fellas to not censor your comment accusing them of censorship though.

NickM
NickM
May 31, 2023 3:25 PM
Reply to  Simon

“I mean 53 [upticks] is a bit full on. It stands out from the rest”

Occasionally something weird happens with upticks. Admin Sam accused me once of upticking my own post; in that incident I certainly got much more than my median 0.

Is it actually possible to uptick one’s own post on OffG?

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 31, 2023 4:53 PM
Reply to  NickM

Using a vpn, yes it is. A2

Gonzogone
Gonzogone
May 29, 2023 10:42 PM

Trying way too hard.

Using the word “anti-semitic” is doing Israel’s work for them.

“Semitic” refers to a language group and not a race. Technically the Palestinians are Semites, but the non-semitic invaders from Ukraine/Russia use co-optation and twisting of the truth as one of their main weapons, and they get their lessons on doing that from a very old tradition. The Palestinians do not even exist – the “Semites” are now their conquerors.

Anyone who seriously thinks a few fringe groups of neo- nazi fetishists waving flags and looking mean is a threat to humanity, rather than the elite parasites in suits paying for the actual genocides and spreading the actual hate speech ( to enable mass murder), is seriously fast asleep.

No- this is yet again exceptionalism. The neo-nazis are targetted because they are (impotently) targetting the chosen ones, and it is supposed to be everyone’s problem.

The gentlemen protest way too much- let’s not forget the Guardian’s wimpering of how a mural depicting the elites behind an Illuminati pyramid was “anti-semitic” when there was no such message on the mural…..

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
May 29, 2023 11:16 PM
Reply to  Gonzogone

“Anyone who seriously thinks a few fringe groups of neo- nazi fetishists waving flags and looking mean is a threat to humanity, rather than the elite parasites in suits paying for the actual genocides and spreading the actual hate speech ( to enable mass murder), is seriously fast asleep.”

Exactly.

And what do psychopaths do best? They lie. Compulsively.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
May 30, 2023 1:04 PM
Reply to  Gonzogone

Gonzogone: Most people don’t even know what the definition of “Semitic” means, because they’re already politically jerked off by Zionist propaganda…

Mark Millward
Mark Millward
Jun 1, 2023 9:45 AM
Reply to  Gonzogone

It’s all a dialectic. In a dialectic TPTB control both sides in order to distract from their antics – in the present moment the intention is likely to distract us from the fact that if our nations don’t derogate from the latest WHO power grab by November, nation state autonomy is literally toast.

AntiSoof
AntiSoof
May 29, 2023 10:23 PM

Please, Roger.

You are a master of music.
Put on ‘normal’ clothes and leave politics for what it is.
It is better to bend than to break. Please just make music and don’t get involved in politics. You are already big enough for me, your strength is one of a higher order than the low earthly game; the music. Let that bird fly.

Surely you know that your statement resonates well enough through your music?

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
May 29, 2023 11:25 PM
Reply to  AntiSoof

So you don’t like free expression?

AntiSoof
AntiSoof
May 29, 2023 11:46 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

Who says I don’t like free expression? I say what I think is best in my opinion.

It is easy to say that of course you should be able to express your opinion.
That’s even a birthright, I think. So that’s not the point.
It’s even perverse not to have a free spirit, you might say.

But whether it is wise to air your opinion is another matter.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
May 30, 2023 5:03 AM
Reply to  AntiSoof

The point of Free Expression, as a human inalienable right, is for the purpose of protecting offensive speech. Polite, or “acceptable speech” doesn’t need protection.

Offensive speech could be anything another person doesn’t agree with or “like”. The very oppression being pushed by those that want to make “hate” a crime. The ideology of “hate speech” is completely antithetical to free expression.

The very reason that the US Bill of Rights has Free Speech first and Right to Bear Arms second. If you lose free speech, then the second amendment must be implemented fully.

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 7:42 AM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

“I disagree with what you say but I shall fight to the death for your right to say it” — Voltaire.

“In a democracy it is a crime to hide your political opinion” — Solon of Athens, father of democracy.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
May 30, 2023 6:09 PM
Reply to  NickM

Democratic forms of government are just a variation of collectivism and totalitarianism. A lynch mob where the only voice of dissent is the one being lynched. Two wolves and a lamb deciding what will be for dinner.

Only forms of government, and justice, that recognize the rights and liberty of the individual, aren’t a variation of collectivism. The needs of the many do not outweigh the rights of the individual.

The USA is a Representative Constitutional Republic. While we have democratic processes, that isn’t a Democracy. Inalienable rights cannot be taken away just because the mob says so.

Elmo
Elmo
Jun 2, 2023 5:17 AM
Reply to  NickM
Howard
Howard
May 30, 2023 3:42 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

We have backed ourselves into a corner as strange as anything from the pen of George Orwell.

Free Expression/Free Speech has somehow morphed into a creature which exists primarily on the Internet. Free Speech outside that realm consists of…of what? Who is there “out there” (as in “Comfortably Numb”) to speak to any longer?

What isn’t on the Internet is still controlled by the Internet through Zoom Virtual Meetings, wherein if they don’t like what you’re saying they just “Mute” you. Or if the meeting is live they Taser you and cart you off to the funny farm. (And it seems you can only speak “freely” any more by shouting.)

Censorship has become so entrenched here in the West that it’s now a way of life.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
May 30, 2023 6:04 PM
Reply to  Howard

In the USA, censorship is really only prevalent on social media. In public, many say exactly what is on their mind. At least from my experience.

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 7:34 AM
Reply to  AntiSoof

“whether it is wise to air your opinion is another matter”

According to Sir Humphrey the greatest danger to a Yes Minister who hopes to become a Yes Prime Minister, is to do something “unwise”.

Wolf Warrior
Wolf Warrior
May 30, 2023 8:01 AM
Reply to  AntiSoof

Roger Waters and Politics are a synergy. That, to me, is what makes him a great artist. It was a great day when he left Pink Floyd so that energy could flourish. He speaks the ‘unspoken’. At 79 he hasn’t given up on the ideals of his youth and that I admire.

It doesn't matter
It doesn't matter
May 29, 2023 9:44 PM

You OffGuardian people have valid points to make, and you’re not bad at what you do, but it sure would be nice if at least one of you didn’t write like an angry, sarcastic 12-year-old.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
May 29, 2023 10:50 PM

Talk about hard to please 😅

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
May 30, 2023 5:18 PM

Who did, and why do you think expressing disgust as being a sarcasstic 12 year old.
Don’t be a rhetorical cupcake.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
May 29, 2023 9:13 PM

Here’s a factoid I only learned a few years ago. The word ‘Semitic’ is based on the name of S(h)em, one of Noah’s three sons, the other two being Ham and Japheth. After the flood, God told the sons to be fruitful and multiply. Nice work if you can get it. It is claimed by some later “scholars” that the three divided up the planet in which S(h)em got Asia.

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 7:52 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Shem only got the Shemitic (South Western) part of Asia. Ham got Hamitic-speaking Africa, and Japhet got Greece (Javan) and the rest of Indo-European-speaking EurAsia.

This Hamito-Semitic centred viewpoint leaves out the huge Altaic group of East Eurasia (possibly including the Red Indian languages of America?) and the extensive Tagolo language group of South Pacific islands that stretch from Australia to South America..

mgeo
mgeo
May 30, 2023 8:00 AM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

Genetically, the purest Semites are Yemenis, followed by Palestinians.

George Cornell
George Cornell
May 29, 2023 8:26 PM

There are few things that are always rising.. Even American self-esteem and hubris seems to have hit an asymptote. My age is one However. And so is my revulsion at the anti-antis so well lampooned by Hopkins. Given that there are only so many empathy units available for dissemination, and that inappropriate hyping of any particular victim grouping is at the expense of the others, let’s take a quick critical look.

Of course anti-semitism is not always rising. And if you ask the JDL for their evidence they bluster, and immediately call you an anti-Semite even before you can ask for independent verification (which of course is completely absent) or even say Jackie Robinson., There is no surer indication of a feeble position than to immediately regress to that stage of arrested development known as “grade school recess” namecalling of the “ you are too” type. They have made the term anti-semitism near meaningless in the context of modern Western countries unless they fess up the data, the methods and the controls. When they called Mandela and Tutu anti-semites for publicizing the plight of the Palestinians, unprecedented indulgence born of WWII was lost.

Here are some suggestions for any discussion of this topic, but keep in mind the possibility you could be dealing with consummate finaglers with their well-thumbed dog-eared Hasbara Handbooks in their lap, advising not to engage with anyone with facts or who seems to know what they’re talking about.

1) ask for the evidence that anti-semitism is increasing and request several longitudinal data points. You’ll never get them if you want verified data.
2) ask for the process of verification of anti-Semitic events – it may not be immediately apparent but they can’t give you that! It’s not because of laziness, or disinterest. It’s because those data allow one to ascertain how often “anti-Semitic” events don’t pass muster in verification and also to compare the findings of JDL operatives to those potentially not in their employ. As noted, there is rare verification, if ever. I’ve asked. So it may be the case that any assault on a Jew or someone dressed identifiably is called anti-Semitic by the JDL.
3) ask for what group was used as a control or comparison group. When I’ve asked, ignorance is feigned, then pleaded. As if it had not occurred to anyone to compare per capita murder or assault rates among blacks or Asians to the unstoppable “increases” in anti-semitic violence. That’s also why you have great difficulty finding the actual numbers. Being able to compare the numbers might expose brutally what’s going on here. Murder is “good’ for this purpose because the outcome is unambiguous. Murder of Jews seems unusual in the US where murder is common, especially among other minorities.

Even if you accept the JDL claims, the numbers to compare are never available. It is possible this is no accident but a willful attempt to deceive, and that murders of blacks dwarf murders of Jews, but I’d be delighted to be proven wrong. That’s why I’ve asked, fruitlessly. This is mysterious given the ease with which these concerns could be put to rest. Abba Eban, the Israeli wit and foreign ambassador to the UN said “ there’s no business like Shoah business “ when Annie Get Your Gun was better known.

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 8:16 AM
Reply to  George Cornell

“unprecedented indulgence born of WWII was lost.”

I am old enough to remember schoolboy anti-Jewish jokes from the pre-War years when Europe and its European colonies like my native South Africa were overtly anti-Jewish. One good thing the Nazis did was to show the world the horrible consequences of racism. Pro-Jewish and pro-Jewish sentiment flourished after the War. So did other movements in favour of hitherto despised ethnic groups such as Bantu Africa. Even the British began to stop saying, The Wogs begin at Calais — because the wanted to get into the Common Market of a United Europe.

However, by 1980-1990 Israeli racism and Jewish discrimination against their fellow Semites in Palestine began to turn the tide of public opinion. For decades I have been warning my Jewish family and friends against the probable consequence of their knee-jerk Israeli chauvinism, but to no avail. Consequently, anti-Jewish bigots have began to creep out from under the stones where they had been hiding since the defeat of Nazism — but not yet, IMHO, to the extent that anti-Jewish prejudice used to flourish in pre-War Europe.

I think the union between Jewish presidents, Jewish Oligarchs of and neo-Nazi thugs in Ukraine is particularly dangerous for the Jews of Ukraine, because the latter grouping is likely to turn on the former for misleading it, when Ukraine loses the SMO.

George Cornell
George Cornell
May 30, 2023 10:54 AM
Reply to  NickM

Agree.

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
May 30, 2023 5:27 PM
Reply to  NickM

I think the union between Jewish presidents, Jewish Oligarchs of and neo-Nazi thugs in Ukraine is particularly dangerous for the Jews of Ukraine, because the latter grouping is likely to turn on the former for misleading it, when Ukraine loses the SMO.

They had wanted this for quite a while, but Russia is way ahead of them and will prevent any amalgamation of this from prevailing. The negative effects of Bolshevism in Russia has left a existential wound in their national psyche, and when they say “never again”, I believe that will be final.

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
May 29, 2023 8:18 PM

Great article thanks for it . As a guitar god Mr Waters was an enormous success. As a political activist not so much. His vast fortune , “managed” by the likes of Kissinger , Epstein’s etal , and many of their Jewish associates , makes him appear to be hypocritically working against his own interests . it must annoy those who helped him achieve that success ? Do Palestinians buy Pink Floyd albums ?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
May 29, 2023 8:17 PM

In the The Wall album Roger Waters also compare innocent people (guess who) with worms.
The two hammers are easily recognised as swastika. Roger Waters glasses are formed as two 6 6.
If you count all the bricks on the album the figure can be divided with 6. A machine gun shown and who to blame for all our own faults?

This was my association when I got the story and I wont tell what conclusion I made.
Only that someone must be guilty of this mess we stand in, and ……..pay-back time…LOL.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
May 29, 2023 7:53 PM

The Holocaust, the gift that keeps on giving, for the Zionist NAZI emulators of the “modern” state of Israel. A self-proclaimed apartheid state, focused against the Palestinian untermenschen. But it is really only fair play, since another country 2500 km and a sea to the north did the same thing to them three generations ago. The thing that one must understand about Zionism besides being intrinsically deceptive and evil, is that it is an integral pillar in the NWO Luciferian dystopia. And one of their major secrets is that they really hate real Jews. The Israeli state has had a clandestine contract for Pfizer’s democidal bioweapon and mandated it as fiercely as the demons running New Zealand, Australia, and Canada. Facts now coming out of Israel indicate that these Pfizer jabs in Israel were no fake publicity stunt placebos but every bit as toxic as those in the USA and UK. I think that speaks volumes about the real attitude of the Zionist leadership toward the Jewish people.

Nick Baam
Nick Baam
May 29, 2023 10:44 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

And one of their major secrets is that they really hate real Jews.’

Famous episode of the late great David Susskind Show: Jewish mothers. Mel Brooks, George Segal, David something-berg. (When asked if his mother took an interest in his career, he responded, “Not really. She spoke Yiddish most of the time. But occasionally you’d hear “residual.”)

One of his most liked shows. Who complained? One guess.

The AntiDefamation League.”

Bubba Rogowski
Bubba Rogowski
May 29, 2023 7:52 PM

The Holocaust “funpart” is zionists cooperating with Hitler and having zionist farmingcenters in Nazi-Germany until 1942. Zionists were trained to migratie to Palestine. In Italy the zionists had a Naval academy with approval of Mussolini, the latter a jewish concubine, etc, etc.
It’s a weird world or not? 🤣🤡

51 Documents #Zionist Collaboration With The #Nazis
Zionism’s relationship to #Antisemitism and racism prior to #Hitler. Including 35 letters, memos, articles, and reports by Zionists, are from the Hitler era and after.
https://t.co/1JnIHkj1Td

Willem
Willem
May 29, 2023 6:34 PM

‘ Social distancing is a necessary evil in Covid world.’ Roger Waters

The guy is a distraction. Don’t waste your time on him. His songs were pretty good though.

Willem
Willem
May 29, 2023 6:47 PM
Reply to  Willem

‘Mama’s gonna make all of your
Nightmares come true
Mama’s gonna put all of her fears into you
Mama’s gonna keep you right here
Under her wing
She won’t let you fly but she might let you sing
Mama will keep baby cosy and warm’

Oh the irony!

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/roger-waters-social-distancing-pink-floyd-mother-1001107/amp/

nylon
nylon
May 29, 2023 7:02 PM
Reply to  Willem

“Through quiet reflection, and great dedication
Master the art of karate
Lo, we shall rise up
And then we’ll make the bugger’s eyes water”

Pink Floyd – Sheep

George Mc
George Mc
May 29, 2023 8:14 PM
Reply to  Willem

Ain’t it funny how it is precisely the “non-political” rock stars who saw through the covid crap – Van and Right Said Fred. (Though the former always hated the “rock star” label.)

Paraphrasing John Lennon:

“Now that I showed you what I been through
Don’t take nobody’s word what you can do
There ain’t no rock star gonna come from the sky
Now that I found out I know I can cry”

AntiSoof
AntiSoof
May 29, 2023 10:43 PM
Reply to  Willem

I don’t think he’s a distraction. I think he knows more about music than about the snake pit of political scheming.

rechenmacher
rechenmacher
May 31, 2023 11:44 AM
Reply to  Willem

More than a distraction actually. He serves a purpose.
So he is touring Germany. Activists jump up and start to bugger City Hall to forbid the concert and private owners to cancel the rent contract of their venues. If they are reluctant the show goes to court. And even if the courts will establish Mr Water’s right to perform and the audience’s right to hear him, next time round there won’t be a public or private venue to be rent. People will have learnt their lesson. Anti-Something. Don’t go there. Only recently you could watch this shit show play out in Frankfurt. Mr Waters did perform backed by a court decision. And if you think, well that’s fine then, you’re wrong. Next time activists will tell City Hall a certain tennis player is anti-something. So he cannot be invited. Or a certain publisher is anti-something and, therefore, must be excluded from the book fair.
That’s the purpose Mr Waters – and other entertainment figures – is serving.

Ian
Ian
May 29, 2023 6:06 PM

This anti -Semitism thing is a a strange one.

If one is critical of “The Jews” one is “anti-Semitic”. Semites are a large group of people comprising many peoples of North Africa and the Middle East, including Palestinians. Being critical of Jews can hardly be construed as being anti all these people!

Now, “The Jews”, the Ashkenazi/European variant thereof, may not be Semitic at all. Several researchers have given evidence to support the possibility that their ancestors were Khazars, a Eastern European/Asiatic people, not people from the lands of The Bible.

So, what we may have here is a group of non-Semitic people who took the land of genuine Semites and continue to oppress these people. If you are critical of them and what they have done, and support Palestinian rights, you are considered to be an anti-Semite.

Yep, lies are truth and truth is lies. Maybe “chuzpah” is a better way of putting it!

Jim McDonagh
Jim McDonagh
May 29, 2023 8:23 PM
Reply to  Ian

The Hebrews as victims propaganda campaign began in Rome as the Flavians tried unsuccessfully to adapt sand god monotheism to their purposes. A testament to the staying power of that myth.

NickM
NickM
May 30, 2023 9:31 AM
Reply to  Ian

“So, what we may have here is a group of non-Semitic people who took the land of genuine Semites and continue to oppress these people.”

As in Palestine so in Britain:

“So, what we have here is a group of non-British people (Anglos & Saxons, aka the English) who took the land and the name of of genuine Britons (aka the Irish, Scots and Welsh) and continue to oppress these people.”

Mann Friedmann
Mann Friedmann
May 30, 2023 5:34 PM
Reply to  NickM

You can add Canada to that analogy: switch non-British with “non-Idigenous” and take the land and appropriate an Indigenous name for the new colony, “Canada”, and STILL oppress these people.