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BBC Verify?

Iain Davis

With great fanfare, the BBC has launched BBC Verify. The state broadcaster’s very own, specialist “disinformation and social media correspondent,” Marianna Spring, announced its arrival live on UK TV.

She explained that the BBC would verify video, fact check and “counter disinformation.” So rest assured, no one needs to think about anything. The BBC will “fact check” everything for us and tell us what “the truth” is.

Apparently, it “really matters” that the BBC acts as the UK government’s official arbiter of truth because, according to Spring, “mistruths” can “cause really serious harm to society.” Marianna has yet to define “harm,” but that doesn’t really matter. The government hasn’t either, despite the fact that it has placed its vague concept of “harm” at the centre of its equally ambiguous Online Safety Bill. Which is proposed state censorship legislation that Marianna is very keen to promote.

Marianna said that we can familiarise ourselves with BBC truth if we are shown the BBC news team’s “workings.” A strange choice of words.

While “workings” means “the way an organisation operates” it also means “a system of holes.” It isn’t clear which definition Marianna was using, although both seem appropriate in reference to BBC news coverage.

Marianna proudly announced that the BBC were “able to look at maps.” This presumably unique BBC capability supposedly enables their intrepid reporters to analyse “war zones.” And find them too, which is handy.

Spring is very concerned about, what she calls, social media “disaster trolls.” She is seemingly referring to people who understand that the UK government is among those that often rely upon false flag terrorist attacks when they want to pass oppressive surveillance legislation or justify their next war.

“Disaster trolls,” she alleges, “cause real world harm” by questioning the often implausible and contradictory accounts of people who claim to have been injured in, what evidently appear to be, false flag terrorist attacks. Marianna hasn’t clarified whether “disaster trolls” are the people who ask questions or the idiots who abuse others online. Te be fair, that distinction is probably moot because Marianna, the BBC and the government clearly want to silence everyone who disagrees with them.

Marianna told the nation that she’s a social media troll. She described the “undercover” accounts that she has “set up” to deceive people on social media. She claimed that these help the BBC news team understand “polarisation online.” Although, the BBC are seemingly causing a fair bit of “polarisation” themselves with their fake troll accounts and endless accusation levelled against anyone who questions the state.

Trolling, Marianna maintains, helps the BBC nail down “just how social media works.” It is a shame they felt the need to create a network of fake accounts to figure this out. They could have just asked my 80-year-old mum. She understands how it works.

Marianna’s said that her online trolling activities are helping her to investigate the “UK’s conspiracy theory movement.” I wish her well, but I fear this is going to be a monumentally difficult task because there is no such thing as the UK’s conspiracy theory movement.

“Conspiracy theory” is just a term the CIA weaponised for their propagandist to help them shut down any debate—about who shot JFK—by sticking the dismissive “conspiracy theorist” label on anyone who dared to question the US government’s official account. It really doesn’t mean anything more than that. Alleged “conspiracy theorists” are just people who question government narratives.

This may go some way to explaining why attempts by the Establishment to lucidly define “conspiracy theories” are frequently absurd. For example, according to the UN, a conspiracy theory is “a belief that events are secretly manipulated behind the scene by powerful forces with negative intent.”

Of course, no one can ever know what a secret is because it’s a “secret.” Typically, the people who get labelled “conspiracy theorists” point toward real evidence that possibly indicates real conspiracies. They only remain “secrets” if you refuse to look at the evidence.

If there are people who believe events can be explained by highlighting things that can’t be known, and there is no evidence that such a “movement” exists in the UK or anywhere else, that would indeed be rather silly.

The UN then adds to its own confusion by stating that a “conspiracy theory” can be identified, in part, because there is evidence that “seems to support the conspiracy theory.” Quite how you find evidence that “seems” to support something that is incomprehensible is mystifying.

However, we do get some contradictory clarification from the academics the UN selected to back up its bizarre contention. In the Conspiracy Theory Handbook , cited by the UN as “evidence,” Professor Stephen Lewandowsky and John Cook PhD, from George Mason University’s Center for Climate Change Communication, stated:

Real conspiracies do exist. [. . .] The U.S. National Security Agency secretly spied on civilian internet users. [. . . ] We know about these conspiracies through internal industry documents, government investigations, or whistleblowers.

So conspiracies do exist! What are the UN rambling on about then? Are they secret or not? We get further clues from the UN’s eminent experts:

Real conspiracies get discovered through conventional thinking—healthy skepticism of official accounts while carefully considering available evidence and being committed to internal consistency.

Begging the question, what is the difference between the evidence that “seems to support the conspiracy theory” and the evidence that “seems” to expose a “real conspiracy”? The answer is, at least, forthcoming:

Conspiracy theories, by contrast, tend to persist for a long time even when there is no decisive evidence for them. [. . .] Typically, conspiracy theories are not supported by evidence that withstands scrutiny.

Ah, I see!

The real conspiracies are exposed by a novel type of evidence called “decisive evidence.” This is different from the evidence that “seems to support the conspiracy theory,” because only it can withstand scrutiny. Although, neither the UN nor its employed academics specify who should scrutinise it.

Perhaps we can now try to construct some sort of sense from, what otherwise appears to be, the UN’s garbled drivel.

The UN and its experts appear to suggest that “real conspiracies,” such as the US government spying on US citizens, are only revealed when “decisive evidence” is uncovered by, for example, US “government investigations.” Unless the evidence is officially acknowledged, or approved by the appointed experts, it is not evidence that stands up to scrutiny.

Right! Got it!

Presumably, we can therefore expect Marianna and the BBC Verify team to scrutinise the evidence offered by those she labels “conspiracy theorists” in order to “debunk” it. This will certainly represent a sea change for the BBC because, to date, they haven’t even reported any of the evidence offered by so-called conspiracy theorists, let alone scrutinised it.

Marianna promises to expose the nonexistent “UK conspiracy theory movement” with her new investigation, “Marianna in Conspiracy Land.” This, she claims, will enable the BBC audience to see how Marianna and her colleagues “piece together the truth.”

I suspect, BBC Verify will prove to be quite illuminating. But not for the reason’s that Marianna and the BBC hope.

You can read more of Iain’s work at his blog IainDavis.com (Formerly InThisTogether) or on UK Column or follow him on Twitter or subscribe to his SubStack. His new book Pseudopandemic, is now available, in both in kindle and paperback, from Amazon and other sellers. Or you can claim a free copy by subscribing to his newsletter.

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Andres Etchebarne
Andres Etchebarne
Jun 4, 2023 5:56 PM

We cover lots of these topics in our last Pod by FALL , it looks like the BBC has self declared Truth police for the world ! https://fall.podbean.com/e/fall-sustainable-impact-proaganda/
Leave a comment if you enjoyed it !
Drz

Portonchok
Portonchok
Jun 2, 2023 8:52 PM

I’m glad to see the BBC finally place its considerable resources into a very valuable initiative. There’s so much BS out there which needs addressing if we want to live in a viable society based on truths.
 😉 

NickM
NickM
Jun 3, 2023 7:42 AM
Reply to  Portonchok

 😉 

Irony alert.

Loverat 8
Loverat 8
Jun 2, 2023 2:56 PM

The BBC are really the very worst, in terms of absolutely everything. It really takes the biggest thickos and wackos (and I believe they actually believe what they say) to keep it going. When it comes to a stop which it will one day, the likes of Spring will answer to the people. And that will be the best day.

NickM
NickM
Jun 3, 2023 7:44 AM
Reply to  Loverat 8

Doesn’t usually end that way: it usually ends by the Marks appealing to the Con-man as saviour. Read “The History Man”.

Koba
Koba
Jun 2, 2023 2:31 PM

Have a thumb sucking as an adult cousin who works at the Beeb. She’s “right on” and literally is just a BBC news website repeating it’s headlines. She is quite mindless though.

NickM
NickM
Jun 3, 2023 7:48 AM
Reply to  Koba

Pretty airheads make better TV; it’s a visual medium

futurist
futurist
Jun 2, 2023 9:42 AM

Build Back Better Conservative Bojo employed the last head of the BBC and got a 850.000£ loan guaranteed by the new Head of the BBC as a sweetener for the new job position.
This new media outlets ridicule The BBC whilst they subversively endorse the Conservatives.
That contrived Musk interview and stuopid peters has done similar that sells the twitter or alt media as a freedom loving place of truth is no different than when non independent faking it as independent MIC outlets slagg off the BBC and the alt media devotees are mindcontrolled into thinking (manipulated) that alt media is your new truth savior.

Tread with caution.

Thom
Thom
Jun 2, 2023 8:31 AM

It’s a good rule of thumb that whatever the mainstream media says about any issue, except local news, that the opposite will be closer to the truth. If the BBC really wanted to verify, they would start with the liars in their own industry in the national newspapers, not inviting them on their shows.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jun 1, 2023 10:44 PM

Talking of verifying information, exposing disinformation wherever it may lurk, countering misinformation in all its nefarious forms …

… the BBC recently (last year) did a money laundering documentary – “Spotlight. From Russia with Blood (2022)”, which reiterated the claims of Bill Browder (financial fraudster extraordinaire, anti-Putin financial robber baron par excellence). OffG have, I believe, also written articles on the subject in pre-Covid times (‘Magnitsky’ to the search box).

The case still somehow seems pivotal in understanding the current US-Russia relationship? As an extended robbery under the cover of A.N. Other’s crimes??

Either way, an excellent documentary:

The Magnitsky Act. Behind the Scenes (2016)

Tavvy
Tavvy
Jun 1, 2023 9:36 PM

The same BBC that reported Building Seven of the World Trade Centre falling twenty minutes before it did (without its being hit by anything). In 2013 Tony Rooke refused to pay a TV license fee because the BBC intentionally misrepresented facts about
the 9/11 attacks. Rooke said the BBC had to have had prior knowledge to a terror attack making them complicit in the attack. He presented the BBC footage to the judge at The Magistrates’ Court in Horsham along with a slew of other evidence, and the judge agreed that Rooke had a reasonable case to protest. Rooke was found not guilty and he was not fined for failure to pay the
licensing fee.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 1, 2023 9:46 PM
Reply to  Tavvy

Fast forward 10 years and the judge will more than likely have you detained indefinitely for spreading misinformation. It’s all gone horribly wrong.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 1, 2023 11:03 PM
Reply to  Thom Crewz

District Judge Stephen Nicholls said that, even if he accepted and agreed with the evidence, that would not give him grounds to rule that Rooke was not guilty. He imposed a six month conditional discharge, with £200 legal costs.

If you make them look like the pricks they are they’ll still dip your pockets.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 1, 2023 10:39 PM
Reply to  Tavvy

The strange prophecy of WTC 7’s collapse was delivered by Jane Stanley. The BBC promptly released an interview with JS where she claimed that all sorts of really nasty people were lashing out with utter hatred at her and destroying her life with their conspiracy nut conviction that she must have been in on it etc. Conclusion: Conspiracy theorists are evil bastards attacking innocent – and probably virginal – BBC reporters! This was the template for Miss Spring. Incidentally, since I forgot the name of the WTC 7 prophet and had to search for it, I encountered the following hits: -Error in BBC reporting doesn’t mean 9/11 was scripted-Why did Building 7 collapse?: 9/11 conspiracy theories … There are several key reasons why conspiracy theorists have fixated on the collapse of Building 7, but they can all be easily debunked.-The conspiracy theories still spreading after 20 years-Fact check: World Trade… Read more »

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 1, 2023 7:59 PM

I get the feeling the Beeb made her change her surname from Trench to Spring. A lot of actors change their name in part or wholly.

Tamim
Tamim
Jun 1, 2023 6:22 PM

…at this point, official State voices are less insidious – cause you know where you stand with them.

‘Truth, Justice & the err BBC way’. No thank you.

sandy
sandy
Jun 1, 2023 5:53 PM

Circling the wagons ’cause no one believes any of THEM anymore. And this only more evidence sealing the deal. THEIR paranoia is palpable. 😉

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 1, 2023 2:29 PM

This may go without saying, and I don’t believe in coincidence.

This site is absolutely being monitored by government agencies of the cyber type.
This includes and is not limited to;
US Cyber Command / CIA
Unit 8200 / Mossad
????? / MI6
Etc.
The Five Eyes (It is really Six Eyes. Number Six being Mossad. How appropriate.)

Just a friendly PA.
The Tree of Liberty is thirsty.

Corarden
Corarden
Jun 1, 2023 3:21 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

they must be either dying of boredom or crapping their pants then what with all the typing going on

Koba
Koba
Jun 2, 2023 2:24 PM
Reply to  Corarden

True imagine being the poor bastard that has to sit around reading all of this in the hopes of finding some kind of Russian link with Off-G. Fuck em I hope they go insane from it all.

Howard
Howard
Jun 1, 2023 4:04 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Not sure they have to go to the trouble of spying on us: Big Tech does it for them. Microsoft especially. Every time Microsoft comes out with a new “Update,” I say to myself “NSA must be upgrading their system.” I have absolutely no doubt that’s what every Microsoft update is about. Why else would the company get so antsy until the update is applied? Before Windows 10, you had the option of refusing the updates; not anymore. The most you can do is put it off a couple weeks – then it’s automatically installed. You can still remove the update – but, having tried that, I can verify it takes about an hour to uninstall an update (even though it only takes a few minutes for Microsoft to install it). BTW, in case anyone suggests using an older platform – XP or 7 – forget it. You’ll never find… Read more »

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 1, 2023 5:47 PM
Reply to  Howard

You could build your own Windows installation and use various open source apps to keep the devil at bay. Anyway, News in from a few hours ago exposes recently discovered backdoors in PC hardware.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gigabyte-motherboards-come-with-a-firmware-backdoor
SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jun 2, 2023 1:29 AM
Reply to  Howard

There’s always Linux, you know.

NickM
NickM
Jun 2, 2023 6:36 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Too many people don’t know.

A dear friend gave us a present of a SuperMac and an iPhone. I tried them, looked up an article headed, How to Get out of MacJail, decided jailbreak was too difficult, and passed those highly esteemed gifts on to some other dear friends.

The great reassurance of Mac and Win is that you can’t go wrong because everybody else is doing it.

After changing to Linux I received a brief email from the college Computer Dept: “Welcome to the real world”.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 3, 2023 6:17 AM
Reply to  NickM

“That you can’t go wrong”: In an earlier era, IBM used that pitch, referred to as FUD, i.e., fear, uncertainty and doubt.

Mr Y
Mr Y
Jun 2, 2023 7:46 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

M$ Windows preferred over Linux proofs that people of the West are slaves to capitalism.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 2, 2023 5:48 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

All can be leaned on. Sad but true.

Howard
Howard
Jun 3, 2023 3:21 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

I may be too cynical for my own good; but I suspect anything and everything connecting in any way to the internet can and will be spied on. Where there’s a will – especially a will to do evil – there will be a way.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 2, 2023 6:14 AM
Reply to  Howard

Under MS Task Manager, you see strange things popping up and disappearing, such as MS Pay (whatever that is) and MS Office (though not installed). This may help to explain the (deliberate) slow launch of Task Manager.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 2, 2023 6:20 AM
Reply to  Howard

There are also browser plug-ins from the social media giants, that cannot be disabled.

SeverelyRegarded
SeverelyRegarded
Jun 2, 2023 9:59 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

My 77th watcher is malformed product of incestuous rape and should kill himself pronto

Elongated Muskrat
Elongated Muskrat
Jun 4, 2023 5:18 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Everyone needs to add a fat paragraph of likely keywords to all text communications so the NSA et al blow a gasket in their computer brains…

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 1, 2023 2:03 PM

On the Leeds side-streets that you slip down
Provincial towns you jog round
Hang the DJ, hang the DJ, hang the DJ.

Koba
Koba
Jun 2, 2023 2:28 PM

Great song
Great band
Great sentiment
Hang the DJ
The music he plays says nothing to me about my life

Balkydj
Balkydj
Jun 1, 2023 2:02 PM

Iain. Oberflächlich or superficial analysis of the BBC problematic, that requires no verification: historically speaking, you could have approached BBC Verify from an wholly Holy Moly alternative angle of attack, on the loss of faith in the DIRECTORS and in two words…

BBC TRUST !

That, which demands full internal verification & their M.O. as public service or
Corporates’ Propaganda, armed to the teeth AC/BC before & after Covid…
Hell frosted over. The BBC cannot even discuss WTC7 !
Therefore, they are Scientifically Incapable and as such,
It would be wholly impossible to TRUST in the BBC, EVER AGAIN,
Until BBC VERIFY their own judgement & misplaced Trust ! !

NickM
NickM
Jun 1, 2023 2:15 PM
Reply to  Balkydj

“loss of faith in the DIRECTORS and in two words…BBC TRUST !”

In my young days people in the colonies used to add “BBC, Sahib” to signify that one could trust a piece of news.

Then came New Liebore, and Prime Minister TB.Liar remade.the Beeb in his own image.

Balkydj
Balkydj
Jun 1, 2023 3:33 PM
Reply to  NickM

All too true: but, that infamous moment, of Jane Standley’s Psychic powers…

comment image

Never truthfully explained, was the moment Trust was lost
& forever, subsequently. I had been waiting for the results
From the SEC Enquiry into Enron, Monsanto, GEC, B.P. &
The D.o.D. response, held within WTC7… (directly above Jane’s left red-handed shoulder)
“Destroyed by Fire” after losing 2.3 Trillion Bucks,
Said Rumsfeld, just the day before…

The BBC died. And yet the BBC TRUST are so dumb & scientifically inept, that
They still need to verify themselves, over two whole decades later ? Impossible,
I would say. The BBC should be legally prosecuted for
Compounding lies, for 2 decades, with Malice Aforethought…
Anybody in denial ? Lock them up for two decades !

Kunda Sem Kunda Tam
Kunda Sem Kunda Tam
Jun 1, 2023 1:11 PM

Defense from BBC and other conduits of informational manure is simple. IGNORE THE MOTHERFUCKERS. There is no law requiring you to read, listen to, watch, or otherwise consumer the putrid shit produced by the lowlife pieces of shit working in the employ of would-be elites, masters of the universe. Your active cooperation is required for the said shit to get into your head. Hence, if any of that affects you, sorry to say, but it’s your fault. You should have stayed away from it. As to having access to “information”, having no information is better than being brainwashed with information intended to fuck you up in the head. You don’t need to know about everything, not to mention that you won’t anyways by consuming the garbage from the aforementioned conduits of propaganda. Ideally, do also whatever you can not to send any money their way and let the shitheads die… Read more »

Carl S. Berg
Carl S. Berg
Jun 1, 2023 6:57 PM

> There is no law requiring you to read, listen to, watch, or otherwise consumer the putrid shit

Jeez, don’t go giving then ideas, man

Grafter
Grafter
Jun 1, 2023 12:55 PM

Appalling stuff and such infantile presentation. A real insult to one’s intelligence.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jun 1, 2023 12:46 PM

We are not so different from journalist dogs, jumping and barking at every action of the ruling class.
Who cares what the beeb are doing. None of it surprises us. We foresaw it. Just as we can see the masses are going to assume the beeb are protecting the truth and not destroying it.

Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.
Revelation 22:11

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jun 1, 2023 12:34 PM

To a Jew, nothing is more offensive than the truth.
~Solzhenitsyn

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 1, 2023 1:50 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Dude, really?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 2, 2023 1:27 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

It seems really. Remember Solzhenitsyn wrote it. Bad bad bad Solzhenitsyn or what?

“Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: “We cannot state that all Jews are Bolsheviks. But without Jews there would never have been Bolshevism. For a Jew nothing is more insulting than the truth. The blood maddened Jewish terrorists had murdered sixty-six million in Russia from 1918 to 1957.”

Solzhenitsyn is the famous author of “The Gulag Archipelago”, a definitive work of three volumes that describes the system of gulags under the Bolsheviks. What is little known, however, is that he is also the author of one of the most banned books in modern history, called “200 Years Together”, which outlines the role of Jews in Russian history going back 200 years.” From Worldpress.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 2, 2023 2:41 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

I read some of the Conan the Barbarian books. They were pretty outdated and bigoted too in how they describe black people.

What other outdated and bigoted writing is out there?

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 3, 2023 11:24 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

What other outdated and bigoted writing is out there?

All Western media.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jun 12, 2023 2:08 AM
Reply to  Thom Crewz

😅

Balkydj
Balkydj
Jun 2, 2023 2:14 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

“Gradually it was disclosed to me that the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either — but right through every human heart — and through all human hearts, this line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. And even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained. And even in the best of all hearts, there remains … an un uprooted small corner of evil.”

The Gulag Archipelago.

Dude, really: the pair of you made me laugh.
Consider: it’s just a ride … with some spirit,
That misdirects us, whenever, human suffering
Rears ugly heads … imagine Tony Blair,
Needs public shaming as lifelong sentence,
Like Menachim Begin . . . !
Ben Roberts-Smith ?
Just another distraction.
A salutary reminder.

Michael
Michael
Jun 2, 2023 1:09 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Nothing against you posting whatever you want
But is your quote honest?
When does Solzhenitsyn say that? I’ve read him with great pleasure and that doesn’t ring true.
Would be quite ironic if you posted a posted a lie, supposedly about the dishonesty of others?
(If it’s an authentic and not misleadingly quote, please confirm that)

Michael
Michael
Jun 2, 2023 2:41 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Your quote is roughly correct (though it’s more accurately rendered in English as “insulting” not “offensive”) There is no official English transation of “200 Years Together” But what the great Solzhenitsyn meant, is not the way it sounds, when you put it as a one-liner. You have left a misleading impression by quoting it out of context. And what is the context? He is saying that Jews (not all Jews) bear the lion’s share of blame for the evils of Bolshevism. And that the plain truth – even without any exaggeration – is a great condemnation of the Jews as a whole. He isn’t saying Jews are lying – in general, or even about this in particular. He’s saying that the “insult”, the “j’accuse” against the Jews is not dependent on a matter of opinion or academic dispute or your worldview etc – the actual facts do all the condemning on… Read more »

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jun 6, 2023 10:55 AM
Reply to  Michael

How convenient, my last reply didn’t make it through.

judith
judith
Jun 1, 2023 12:16 PM

Every time I read of yet another BBC defense of mankind it brings to mind the series W1A.
I can’t help but picture Ian and the gang sitting around the table brain-storming one crazy idea after another.
That photo in the article – that is literally what a scene from the show would look like, and most likely, sound like.
It would be funny if it were not so horribly tragic.

Thank you for another informative piece, Mr. Davis.

Literally nobody
Literally nobody
Jun 1, 2023 11:42 AM

If this was a game of countdown we got fibber for 6 from bbcverify. Nothing better from Susie dent in dictionary corner

Balkydj
Balkydj
Jun 1, 2023 4:04 PM

BBC verify F.Y. I. ( for your information. )

iBBC very ‘iffy’.

Ask Jane Standley.
A Dusie Sent to distract us,
From the countdown to “Pull it…”
& Blame Terrorism !

Balkydj
Balkydj
Jun 1, 2023 4:49 PM

BBC verify F.Y. I. counts down easier for a 12, in terms of ‘ten seconds flatliners…’ ( for your information, ask Jane Standley ? ) iBBC very ‘iffy’. With Psychic sidekicks. A Dusie Sent to distract us, From the countdown to “Pull it…” & Blame Terrorism ! Remember WTC7 had 81 Steel Columns. 2 Seconds Freefall. 10 Seconds Flat & The BBC VERIFIED & BROADCAST IT’S ‘collapse from fire’ 20 ODD MINUTES, AHEAD OF REALITY… Jane time travelled ! 20 years later… Never forget this HISTORIC PSYCHIC SIDEKICK EVIDENCE OF PSYOPS’CONTROLDEMO.JOB to de-mob ‘society’ The BBC Lied & wholly continue to do so, to this day, They Have not only NOT verified anything… They are, Very Clearly Complicit and should be proven so, Legally ! Ask any Iraqi, or a Turkish-Bulgarian NATO ‘foot soldier’ fireman friend of mine, In both Iraq & Afghanistan, all nothing to do with the controlled… Read more »

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jun 1, 2023 11:07 PM

Can also add the ‘y’ for ‘fibbery’. ‘verbify’ working too for another 7

‘Verbify fibbery’ befitting in the current context

skit
skit
Jun 1, 2023 11:35 AM

British Brainwashing Corporation. Go BBC!

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Jun 1, 2023 11:27 AM

Fascists are the slow evolvers of consciousness, humanity’s ball and chain. They would rather progress headlong backwards toward barbarity than face a more sophisticated paradigm of human refinement and well being.Authoritarianism Keeps Surging In Western “Free Democracies”“If western governments need to keep ramping up censorship, propaganda and the persecution of journalists in order to defend western freedom and democracy, is it really freedom and democracy? And, is it worth defending?” Fascist Politics in the Age of Neoliberal Capitalism: Confronting the Domestication of the Unimaginable “Every age has its own fascism, and we see the warning signs wherever the concentration of power denies citizens the possibility and the means of expressing and acting on their own free will. There are many ways of reaching this point, and not just through the terror of police intimidation, but by denying and distorting information, by undermining systems of justice, by paralyzing the education system,… Read more »

Edwige
Edwige
Jun 1, 2023 10:13 AM
Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 1, 2023 12:57 PM
Reply to  Edwige

I ilke the Irish. Unfortunately they have such a sad story due to the relationship with London, like so many other countries. Im sure this sick proposal is British inspired.

EarlofSuave
EarlofSuave
Jun 1, 2023 3:41 PM
Reply to  Edwige

In the desperate search for yield, Globocap must limit supply. Ireland is a plantation/entrepot.

https://twitter.com/DFallamhain/status/1664206053771292673

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 1, 2023 10:11 AM
Captain Spock
Captain Spock
Jun 1, 2023 10:04 AM

It promises to be one of the greatest BBC comedy shows for quite some time. I may even tune in one day when i’m in need of a particular kind of laugh.

I wonder if Marianna will read this article as part of her adventure in ‘Conspiracy Land.’

Would love to have her conduct a live TV interview with OffG.. Perhaps we can all get in touch with her to suggest that she does.. God.. We can have real fun with this lady and her employers.

I’m sure I saw somewhere that the guy who distributes The Light paper was interviewed… Anybody see that?

ChairmanDrusha
ChairmanDrusha
Jun 1, 2023 5:51 PM
Reply to  Captain Spock

Only the short clips shown on UK Column. I’m sure the BBC would edit it to look like a to and fro that goes nowhere, just to prove you can’t argue with a “conspiracy theorist”. Luckily, no one watches the fucken BBC anymore, anyway.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 1, 2023 8:52 AM
Matt Black
Matt Black
Jun 1, 2023 8:15 AM

Groomed into spookery:
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-queen-elizabeth-ii-receives-a-bouquet-of-flowers-from-ball-girl-marianna-111033285.html

Emily Maitlis gave Marianna Spring a helping hand into her first media gig at the BBC, Maitlis-Peter Mandelson-Epstein, —everytime.

Willem
Willem
Jun 1, 2023 7:59 AM

Oh finally someone (or something) that thinks objectively for me!

Now I can just sit back in my chair and relax and stop thinking.

NickM
NickM
Jun 1, 2023 5:59 AM

A reminder to younger readers: During the War it was common for foreigners to stress the truth of their news by saying at the end, “BBC”. That impression of impeturbable veracity stayed with me till 2003. That was when Prime Minister TB.Liar re-organised the BBC for telling the truth: B.Liar had “sexed up” his Dodgy Dossier about WMD. Under its re-organised Governing Body (including a strong Friend of Israel) nobody in the Beeb has dared to tell a truth. They remember what happened to Dr.David Kelly, RiP.

Edward Bernaysauce
Edward Bernaysauce
Jun 1, 2023 5:00 AM
Edward Bernaysauce
Edward Bernaysauce
Jun 1, 2023 5:02 AM
Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
Jun 1, 2023 4:00 AM

I wonder if she had a chart that said far left figures? In what bizarro world is it possible to have a far right but not a far left?

judith
judith
Jun 1, 2023 12:19 PM
Reply to  Gordon McRae

She could have at least had the “Disinfo Twelve” from 2020.

With Dr. Buttar and Dr. Zelenko’s names crossed out.

RIP

Mr Y
Mr Y
Jun 2, 2023 7:53 AM
Reply to  Gordon McRae

When talking politics, how about throwing the words left and right out for good?

Mr Y, socialist/anarchist

Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
Jun 3, 2023 7:35 AM
Reply to  Mr Y

I agree those terms don’t define things very well anymore…. If they ever did.

Paul Nicholls
Paul Nicholls
Jun 1, 2023 3:18 AM

A bit off topic but nonetheless a couple music vids I frequently enjoy:

Cathy Don't Go To the Supermarket Today' 1985, produced by Christiancult’ The Children of God’ aka Family International'. Cult or no, somebody was tuned in.
<h1>Don't forget the very groovy ' 80s dance choreography. </h1><h1><br></h1><h1> Also Jolie Blue, Saskatchewan hippie, dopey, drunkey, folkie, and the very catchy
Canadian Convoy Rally Song’ (the only song I know of in existence that has the sound of Jake Brakes for an intro) Anyone that has done much empty pocket travelling across Canada can relate, I think, to this video. The caricature of Emperor Justin is priceless.
Cathy Don’t Go:
Cathy Don’t Go (To The Supermarket Today) | The Family International (1985) (bitchute.com)

Canadian Convoy Rally Song:
CANADA FREEDOM CONVOY (bitchute.com)

Paul Nicholls
Paul Nicholls
Jun 1, 2023 12:46 PM
Reply to  Paul Nicholls
Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 1, 2023 8:59 PM
Reply to  Paul Nicholls

I decided to open both videos. Very good music, and positive. Thanks.

correspondencecommitttee
correspondencecommitttee
Jun 1, 2023 2:07 AM

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Johnny
Johnny
Jun 1, 2023 4:29 AM

What’s with the epaulets?
FFS!!
We’re being led by deranged dumbkoffs.
Weirder and weirder.

Gonks
Gonks
Jun 1, 2023 10:30 AM
Reply to  Johnny

He promoted himself to Admiral. Yes, really.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 1, 2023 7:47 PM
Reply to  Johnny

That really is an extremely weird photo.
I suppose we need context to make head or tail of it, since it’s obviously debatable whether that is a male health officer.
In any case, I refuse to be drawn into that idiotic debate.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 1, 2023 11:15 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Rachel levine 😉

Edward Bernaysauce
Edward Bernaysauce
Jun 1, 2023 5:03 AM

Que Brava…!

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 1, 2023 1:05 PM

I cant believe it.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 1, 2023 1:45 AM

“Open up wide”
“That’s a good girl, boy, them”
“Take your medicine”
“Mummy, Daddy, Them, knows best”

https://brownstone.org/articles/misinformation-a-word-used-to-shut-you-up/

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 1, 2023 1:27 AM

They’ve spelt it wrong.
I’m sure they mean BBC VILIFY.

Bloody hell!!
Australia’s and Canada’s
National Broadcasters will no doubt kiss arse and follow the leader.
A winter warning from today’s ‘news’

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-01/brain-fog-fatigue-what-are-symptoms-of-long-covid/102405424

NickM
NickM
Jun 1, 2023 6:06 AM
Reply to  Johnny

“I’m sure they mean BBC VILIFY”

As in their reports on Russia, China, Serbia, South Africa, Syria — and whatever “enemy of the day” such as anti-Semites and anti-Vaxxers..

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 1, 2023 12:59 AM

Will those who stopped paying the TV ransom still be able to use the Beebs lovely ‘I’m as thick as mince and need others to think for me’ fact checking service?

Asking for an unlicensed friend.

Grafter
Grafter
Jun 1, 2023 1:07 PM
Reply to  Thom Crewz

The BBC are a cancer in our society. Don’t give them any money.

STJOHNOFGRAFTON
STJOHNOFGRAFTON
Jun 1, 2023 12:56 AM

BBC’s Verify: We do the verifying thinking so you don’t have to.

Edward Bernaysauce
Edward Bernaysauce
Jun 1, 2023 5:04 AM

keep quiet and pay the fee…

Stop The Prison Mentality
Stop The Prison Mentality
Jun 1, 2023 12:50 AM

Yeah, it’s getting harder to find media outlets that can be trusted. Seems to be more and more that actively censor, and worst of all you just never know when they’re doing it

Sad really.

Stop The Prison Mentality
Stop The Prison Mentality
Jun 1, 2023 1:38 AM

I should add, when one discovers censorship, manipulation …. lying etc, it really is important to move on and just stop dealing with them.

EarlofSuave
EarlofSuave
Jun 1, 2023 12:01 AM

Keeping us safe from “misinformation” is hard work and expensive, 6 rozzers, 5 hours:

https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1663752504331337728

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 1, 2023 1:11 AM
Reply to  EarlofSuave

Poor guy looked pissed off when inteviewed but said he was glad he’d flown out of the U.K, I’d have done the same after 5 hours of intimidation.

NickM
NickM
Jun 1, 2023 6:21 AM
Reply to  EarlofSuave

From your Link:

Leaders• Director-General of the BBC
• BBC/Governor
• BBC/Chair

Type propaganda

Member of European Broadcasting Union

Sponsor of Trusted News Initiative

Sponsored by Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation

BBC: A state propaganda apparatus disguised as a quasi-autonomous public service corporation.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
May 31, 2023 11:49 PM

You know what? Just give it up! People who do not want to dig deeper or flat out refuse to acknowledge the evidence of evil intent by the corporate world (eg Big Pharma, Big Fake Food, Military, etc) and government, will get what they deserve. The price of freedom is perpetual vigilance, I believe the saying goes.

The only people I now feel so sorry for are the kids of those blind or obstinately lying (in denial) parents.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 1, 2023 12:25 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Those who are awake to what’s going will be forced to share the shit sandwich with those who want to ignore it. I see no escape from this new hell but remain slightly optimistic.

NickM
NickM
Jun 1, 2023 6:26 AM
Reply to  Thom Crewz

“This new hell” is only the latest version of the old hell of enforced public opinion that has caused nation after nation to enter centuries of self-imposed intolerance, superstition, oppression, ignorance, and poverty.

“The mind-forged manacles of Man” — Wm.Blake

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 1, 2023 5:55 PM
Reply to  NickM

Shit sandwich for all it is then.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 1, 2023 1:10 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

No need. Their children are even worse than their parents…………….. 😂 

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
May 31, 2023 11:19 PM

“Inflation level”: “Average wage statistics”; “Unemployment level”; “Immigrant increases'” !! Government supplied Facts – can you believe any of them ?
Propaganda ? Misinformation ? Fakery ? Fraud !
How can anyone believe government Figures after the way ‘covid’ Facts were manipulated to hide so many injuries and deaths ?

NickM
NickM
Jun 1, 2023 6:14 AM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

No way can Truthers believe government figures after Con-19. And TB.Liar’s “New BBC” was the chief disseminator of Globalist Lies about Covid-19.

Woowoo
Woowoo
Jun 1, 2023 9:48 AM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Definitely can believe they over spent on propaganda.

Brianborou
Brianborou
May 31, 2023 9:54 PM
Woowoo
Woowoo
May 31, 2023 8:53 PM

Whats the difference between BBC verify and WP Akismet spam filter / spam approval or admin approval on OFFG or even cuttingthroughthefogcom etc.

You cant moan, then do the exact same.

Its all verified.

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Woowoo
Woowoo
May 31, 2023 8:47 PM

BBC verify verses Twitter verify blue badge tick all thee experts now got..
whats the difference >?

Iain have you got a paid blue tick from twitter to confirm your real and verified..?
I bet your colleagues have… 😜 

Woowoo
Woowoo
May 31, 2023 8:45 PM

white moby dick spying beats verify ;0)
An alleged Russian spy whale is in Sweden — and danger. Here’s why his tale matters
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/31/1179114070/russian-spy-whale-sweden-hvaldimir

NickM
NickM
Jun 1, 2023 6:32 AM
Reply to  Woowoo

From your Link. Sweet: “Hvaldimir — a combination of the Norwegian word for whale (hval) and Russian President Vladimir Putin’s first name — has spent the last several years swimming south down the coast of Norway, where he was first spotted by fishermen in 2019. “He had been wearing a harness labeled “Equipment St. Petersburg,” which led many to believe he’d been trained by the Russian navy for intelligence purposes. (Russia and the U.S. are among the handful of countries that have military training programs incorporating aquatic mammals.) “Hvaldimir has become something of a local celebrity in the years since, with viral videos showing him picking up a woman’s dropped cell phone and stealing and retrieving a kayaker’s GoPro. “He is a friendly, tamed, displaced, formerly captive whale who relies on humans for social interaction,” says OneWhale, a nonprofit established specifically to protect Hvaldimir. “Belugas are highly social whales and… Read more »

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
May 31, 2023 8:30 PM

“Love Is In The Air” (With *Luscious Apologies* to John Paul Young, George Young and Harry Vanda) ♪♪Spring is on the air, everywhere I look around Spring is on the air, every night in surround sound And I don’t know if I’m being foolish Don’t know if I’m being wise But dis info that I must believe in Well I know that you’ll keep me apprised Spring is on the air, in the whisper of normies Spring is on the air, in the chunder of the Beeb And I don’t know if I’m just dreaming Don’t know if I feel sane But it’s something that I just believe in In despite of the discourse you frame Spring is on the air, Spring is on the air Spring is on the air, from the pages of the Sun Spring is on the air, to the daily mealy Graun’ And I don’t… Read more »

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
May 31, 2023 11:37 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

If Offguardian was a music channel it would likely run a competition for lyrics of songs about “Verify”. Not silly love songs about Verifying ones love for (The BBC), but witty, scathing, mocking critiques exposing the verity of the BBCs’ Verify

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Jun 1, 2023 8:18 AM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

…- Mmm… – One of these days I’ll remember to proof’ the title *as well as* the lyrics *Before* I hit ‘Post’… 😉

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 1, 2023 1:05 AM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

Can you give us the Chemtrails version, please?

Sgt Oddball
Sgt Oddball
Jun 1, 2023 8:12 AM
Reply to  Thom Crewz

…- Howzabout: – “Crud is in the air”?…

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Jun 1, 2023 6:01 PM
Reply to  Sgt Oddball

That’ll do nicely, but I’d prefer “death & disease is in the air” 😉

Vagabard
Vagabard
May 31, 2023 8:12 PM

She has an unenviable job. Who’d take it? Be honest.

So, while it’s always tempting to jump on the abuse train, I’ll refrain thanks.

Instead, why not send out a few vibes of love and flowers? And melt her heart into the Kingdom of the Enlightened Alternative Perspective  🙂 

George Mc
George Mc
May 31, 2023 8:19 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

“She has an unenviable job.”

Subtext: “….but hey somebody’s got to do it!”

Drivel. She is part of a brutally cynical manipulative machine and she’s perfect for the job. The biggest brown tonguer since Kuenssberg but with greater levels of psychopathic eagerness to push her “spunky personality”. I’m sure she’ll have a glowing career ahead of her. I sense a biopic already in the making.

Vagabard
Vagabard
May 31, 2023 8:29 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Maybe, but she’s burst into tears, in at least 2 of her interviews, at some of the abuse she gets (death threats etc). And I don’t believe the tears were fake.

I’m sure she’d rather have Stacey Dooley’s role, Able to walk the streets without fear of the wayward psycho

George Mc
George Mc
May 31, 2023 10:14 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

So the script precisely. There’s two possibilities:

First, that she knows it’s all part of the old razzle dazzle and is razzle dazzling them.

Second – more likely – she is being set up by her “handlers” who are giving her the spooky runaround with their “personal false flag” operation.In which case, she will be getting lots more “wayward psycho” from the UK’s own QAnon show.

Ah one ah two ah three – take it away:

“There’s no business like show business …..”

Vagabard
Vagabard
Jun 1, 2023 11:42 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Like show votes?

(PS They don’t do you any favours)

wardropper
wardropper
May 31, 2023 10:25 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Some people find it easy to work themselves up into tears.
Most prominently, actors and politicians.

The tears are real enough.
In the case of good actors, it’s because they immerse themselves totally in the role they are playing.
But, in the case of politicians, it’s because they seriously believe their own hallucinations.

There are times when verbal abuse can be entirely appropriate – as in the case of dangerous sociopaths and psychopaths.
After all, one is entitled to a modicum of self-preservation, and some people need to be stopped in their tracks for the good of mankind’s future evolution.

We have been far too lenient with the likes of Hancock, Whitty, Fauci, Blair, Johnson, May, Truss… oh, well, we all know how long the list is.

Johnny
Johnny
Jun 1, 2023 1:35 AM
Reply to  wardropper

With politicians it’s tears of self pity. ‘Why don’t people believe me?’

NickM
NickM
Jun 1, 2023 6:50 AM
Reply to  wardropper

“But, in the case of politicians, it’s because they seriously believe their own hallucinations.”

TB.Liar believed his own hallucinations? Nothing to do with his “modest fortune” from various Rothschild companies “for services rendered” after his retirement as Prime Minister?

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 1, 2023 7:43 PM
Reply to  NickM

You’re right, but I would just add that greed is also a hallucinatory phenomenon…

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
May 31, 2023 11:21 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

In an age where outrage and hurt feelings are the flavor of the day, I’d be surprised if her tears were fake. We have people who wail at the injustice of having to go into an office to work, who literally freak out if someone looks at them askance, and we are surprised a paid shill can manage real tears? We should not be, not at all.

As for fear of the wayward psycho, she works among diagnosable psychopaths every single day but she’s afraid of some loon on the street? Perhaps she should always be transported in a limo then, no need to worry about some nut on the street in that scenario. Soon I imagine she will have her very own limo, if she can keep up the blatant lies with a tearful face she’ll make that in no time.

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
May 31, 2023 11:25 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Tears for the poor Concentration Camp Guard ?
“The Dear, she’s got a large family to feed.”

Edward Bernaysauce
Edward Bernaysauce
Jun 1, 2023 5:07 AM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

and oh, what a need!, incentives will plead,
millions will be bled…

Edward Bernaysauce
Edward Bernaysauce
Jun 1, 2023 5:08 AM

will ‘be’ plead

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
May 31, 2023 11:51 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Everyone has a choice. She could walk away from the job, if she didn’t believe in it.

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Jun 1, 2023 1:23 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

In Huxly’s Brave New World “Everyone has a choice” was one of the slogans (“Truths”) repeated hundreds of times nightly via hypnopedia to the plebs while they were asleep. But you dont have to be asleep for hypnopedia to work its magic on you.

NickM
NickM
Jun 1, 2023 6:42 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

“And I don’t believe the tears were fake.”

Neither do I believe her tears were fake. I am old enough to remember Nazis sitting around and discussing, “Why don’t people like us?”.

I remember Naziz telling the world how much they loved their pets.

I remember a Jewish concert pianist with an Auschwitz tattoo on her arm, who survived because the Kommandant loved listening to Chopin.

Yes, nice people doing an unenviable job with pitifully small remuneration out of a sense of duty and public service.

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
May 31, 2023 11:23 PM
Reply to  George Mc

She’s an Asymptomatic Psychopath’ ?
And she certainly loves to spread it !

TRT
TRT
Jun 1, 2023 12:39 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Yes, I agree. We should be more tolerant and understanding of the propagandists working to enslave us.

Good lord.

S Cooper
S Cooper
Jun 2, 2023 3:37 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

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Chevrus
Chevrus
May 31, 2023 6:59 PM

Oh FFS, I suppose one cannot blame them for trying but at this points it’s just grimly amusing to watch these parasites try to simultaneously stamp out opposing viewpoints while justifying their existence. Pretty soon they will be they last person in an empty theater.

DavidF
DavidF
May 31, 2023 6:59 PM

And on the headline story on the BBC 6 o’clock news tonight, about the alleged “kidnapping” of Ukrainian school kids, the anchor said “……..we’ve not been able to fully verify the story….” So what really is the fucking point ?

Ort
Ort
May 31, 2023 10:00 PM
Reply to  DavidF

Ah, this takes me back to 1895, and a famous cartoon published in “Punch”:

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Right Reverend Host – “I’m afraid you’ve got a bad egg, Mr. Jones!

The Curate – “Oh no, my Lord, I assure you! Parts of it are excellent!

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
May 31, 2023 11:31 PM
Reply to  DavidF

The snukin word “verify”.
It reinforces the claim that all the other claims have been verified.

Fully verified ? Partial truths ?
Half full, and the rest is made up ?
How about a half full drunk !