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Skimming Off the Scum

Todd Hayen

Skimming off the scum generally means getting rid of waste. Scraping off from the surface of useful material the rising of impurities and muck. Isn’t that the intention of the New World Order? Wasn’t that Hitler’s intention in Europe in 1933? Hasn’t that been the general intention of all totalitarian governments since the beginning of time?

What a disgusting image, but I believe it is true. In the eyes of the perpetrators, the old and infirm, among others, are the “scum” of the Brave New World being planned and implemented as I write this. Killing them off like weak, useless, and expensive, vermin is the prudent thing to do. Scum. That is all they (we) are to these people. Scum.

In Naomi Wolf’s fabulous book she makes a very pertinent point. Here is a quote from The Bodies of Others:

But to understand what has happened to us, I must ask you to suspend for a while a thought process that investigators call “mirror imaging.” This is when we assume others think as we do. Because most of us are decent people, and not sociopaths or psychopaths, we tend to assume that others are also driven by basic human motivations such as empathy, altruism, and kindness—or even just by the basic notion that other human beings are also deserving of life, self-determination, and dignity.

This “mirror imaging,” though, is more than simply a flaw in analysis—it is a fatal error that leads us to miss important conclusions. For others do not always think as we do.”

Here Wolf points out the reason why we can never say, “oh, they would never do such a thing,” when it is pointed out that we very well may be experiencing an intentional skimming.

There are many lists on the Internet of historical genocides, which is the “intentional killing of people” very often defined as people falling into a “religious or nationalistic” group. The more appropriate word for what we seem to be experiencing today is “democide” which is a bit broader and specifies the killers as “government agents acting in their authoritative capacity.” Whatever the word, it is a fancy term for skimming the scum—and the scum being defined as scum by the skimmer.

Other terms we have heard include “ethnic cleansing.” What we see now has few specifics, and it is one of the reasons many people find it hard to believe that there is an intentional democide going on. If it isn’t for ethnic cleansing or political dissidence, or religious misalignment, then what is it for? A very general “population reduction” as per the (alleged) eugenicists Bill Gates and the likes of Henry Kissinger et al as well as the proclamation of the infamous Georgia Guidestones (now defunct).

This does seem a bit dubious, but maybe if we examine this further we will see more rhyme and reason.

The jab, initially, seemed to target the elderly, or at least the response to “Covid” was aimed in that direction. The elderly were quickly isolated from loved ones, forced into close proximity to each other, and whatever you want to call it, “it” seemed to “spread” quickly among them (germ or terrain, this could be easily explained). These were the first of the population to receive rather lethal treatment with intubation/ventilation, and other known to be deadly drugs such as “Run Death is Near” (Remdesivir) and others.

The vax itself seems to attack a variety of people and demographics. Depending on its method of extinguishing life (clots, brain bleeds, heart attacks, cancers) its victims can fall in a variety of categories, indiscriminately killing or maiming an assortment of people—young, old, rich or poor.

So what gives?

We are also seeing a variety of time-lines: some who succumb right away, some who die after a long list of ailments, some yet to be adversely affected—and certainly the possibility that birth rates will drop radically in the years to come. There has also been a clear impact on immune systems, which means that people jabbed could die, or get sick, from nearly anything and its aetiology could be traced back to the vaccine (admittedly a difficult trace).

I don’t think this skimming the scum was intended to be a quick skim. And I think the definition of “scum” in this case is simply “human.” It is generally a simple population skim—which of course does NOT include a certain percentile of the population (gee, I wonder who?)

The skim we are talking about could indeed take decades. I believe the initial excess mortality we see is temporary. We have to look at this from the perspective of the “long haul.”

Or…

This may all become much more obvious. There are more killer drugs on the horizon, more mRNA based vaccines, more boosters for Covid even, and certainly more boogieman diseases yet to be released (needless to say, they don’t have to “release” any “thing” other than fear.)

This killing spree democide may get horribly ugly. “Oh, no,” some might say, “they would not take the chance of becoming too obvious with all that.”

Hmmm…I beg to differ here. In my opinion they run more of a risk of being “found out” letting things calm down the way they have been doing. If they instigate another big fear campaign, they surely will pull back in any straggling sheep who have strayed from the herd. Distractions are their MO.

Those who know me know I have always said they still have more blood to squeeze out of the Covid turnip. I have been a bit silent on this recently lest people really do start believing I am a nut job. My reasoning for believing Covid has more of a run yet to be seen, is that people are conditioned well with the word “Covid.” Although we may think that many NPCs are tired of it and done with it all, that can only apply to the “old Covid.” All they have to do is come up with another variant, and most “sheep types” will be back on the hoof.

Now, as I say above, they may not be playing all this so overtly. The Guidestone Eugenics Credo of population reduction may not be high on the priority list anymore. Getting it started, as they have, may have been number one on the list when all this malarkey started, but once that locomotive has been put into motion, it will do its job in the background. If they reach their 500 million maximum population (that number is more than likely just a metaphor) in 50 years, or even more, that may be just fine.

Some say we are all doomed, not just the jabbed. Well, that could be true, but let’s not go there. Let’s step out into the spring air and breathe in a nice mask-less lung full of it. We have our job to do, let’s try to do it in joy and love.

Todd Hayen is a registered psychotherapist practicing in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. He holds a PhD in depth psychotherapy and an MA in Consciousness Studies. He specializes in Jungian, archetypal, psychology. Todd also writes for his own substack, which you can read here

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Jeff the Beast
Jeff the Beast
Jun 16, 2023 1:06 PM

Scum like yourself? Go ahead…you pathetic scrap must end in the garbage dump of history!!!

Captain Spock
Captain Spock
Jun 13, 2023 7:56 AM

I keep the faith beyond all appearances, and without being naive, in the fact that the scum always rises to the top, before being skimmed off. The scum has well and clearly risen to the top and is clearly visible. The top of the triangle of worldly power which has been constructed by men driven by a deep insecurity, based upon their disconnection from The Source. Vampires who feed off the energy of the ones who they possess and dominate Surely the invitation for all of us as we move through this dark threshold is to clarify where we still entertain the illusory story which is the story of separation. A story which has been hardwired by the enculturation of materialistic values through the past 300 years or so.. Of course it has been running for much longer than that, but that’s enough for us to go on as we… Read more »

SeverleyRegarded
SeverleyRegarded
Jun 12, 2023 10:12 PM

yes, you are all wrong. it is much worse than you think

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SeverleyRegarded
SeverleyRegarded
Jun 13, 2023 12:23 PM

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Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Jun 11, 2023 7:44 PM
Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
Jun 11, 2023 8:18 AM

John Ioannidis has done some good work at breaking down some of the excess death statistics and also on the challenge of determining the relevance of various statistics.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/eci.14008

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Jun 11, 2023 1:11 AM

apparently it’s just a coincidence that all the fires in Canada started simultaneously !

NickM
NickM
Jun 11, 2023 6:31 AM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Source? I am open minded: coincidences happen, but so does planned destruction — for instance the planned destruction of North Stream 2, and the attempted plan to destroy Holland’s farms.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 12, 2023 12:52 PM
Reply to  NickM

Also the many disasters that closed food processing factories, especially in US, over the last 2 years.

.gjx.
.gjx.
Jun 14, 2023 11:31 AM
Reply to  NickM

Source for simultaneous ignition. Excuse the YTuber’s speculative excesses, the satellite data he captured via the nexrad feed documents the conditions at ignition. Notice that natural causes are one of the possible explanations, but nature only acts on this scale via tectonics or solar/meteor storms.

Dave
Dave
Jun 11, 2023 12:47 PM
Reply to  jubal hershaw

Alberta is investigating. Danielle Smith has made a statement. YouTube has it.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jun 11, 2023 12:39 AM

The less people we are, the more porridge to us. The less men, the more girls to us.
Thats just the way it is and always will be.

Dave
Dave
Jun 11, 2023 12:48 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Are you OK?

Koba
Koba
Jun 11, 2023 12:57 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Uh oh Erik thinks he’s liked enough to not be considered scum and skimmed. He thinks he’s getting more food and sex. What a moron.

Gul Dukat
Gul Dukat
Jun 16, 2023 5:16 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Yeah! You are right. Save the World from Overpopulation. Be the First Hero, kill yourself! Or like Bill Hicks said to the Merchandise-Advertising-Scumbags: ( https://genius.com/Bill-hicks-on-advertisers-and-marketing-annotated ) “By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing…kill yourself. It’s just a little thought; I’m just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day they’ll take root – I don’t know. You try, you do what you can. (Kill yourself.) Seriously though, if you are, do. Aaah, no really. There’s no rationalisation for what you do and you are Satan’s little helpers. Okay – kill yourself. Seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good. Seriously. No this is not a joke. You’re [going], “There’s going to be a joke coming.” There’s no fucking joke coming. You are Satan’s spawn filling the world with bile and garbage. You are fucked and you are fucking us. Kill yourself. It’s the only way to… Read more »

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jun 10, 2023 10:52 PM

Just to say thanks to Todd and all of the commentators on this piece for a fascinating conversation.

It is very refreshing to have a bit of a good old chat without calling each other idiots.

Maybe we’re getting somewhere?

AntiSoof
AntiSoof
Jun 10, 2023 10:37 PM

This is when we assume others think as we do. Because most of us are decent people, and not sociopaths or psychopaths, we tend to assume that others are also driven by basic human motivations such as empathy, altruism, and kindness—or even just by the basic notion that other human beings are also deserving of life, self-determination, and dignity.”

This is an incredibly good observation! We think that others think the same way we do.

Most of the time we cannot understand that language is an instrument for eating and drinking and is not for playing cunning tricks! In that case you betray your fellow man. Like a Judas.

Koba
Koba
Jun 11, 2023 12:58 PM
Reply to  AntiSoof

I’ve never thought people think along “our” lines. For after all we, the thinkers, are heavily outnumbered.

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 10, 2023 9:57 PM

I’ve been harping on for the last few years here, that this entire covid op and the Great Reset itself, is a democide plan. Unfortunately, these democides occur frequently and often. If we examine all the wars in the 20thC, the mass starvation campaigns, the one child policies, the free abortions and all the “vaccination“ campaigns, as first and foremost a profit making exercise AND democides, WHILST gaining ever more control, then these democides achieve multiple objectives, simultaneously. The public have no idea how many trillions are going to be made: When more than one generation is murdered, “the state“ (privately owned corporate entities) collects all land, property, savings and assets of the deceased. Democide is how the controllers burst the debt bubbles they create, whilst maintaining complete control. The psychopathic parasite class view most of humanity as their meal ticket. Similar to how a farmer sees his herd of… Read more »

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jun 11, 2023 1:08 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Females eat their own young we came up with the morning after. Outside It’s not 1915 anymore Sweetness.

Cannon of the Loose Kind
Cannon of the Loose Kind
Jun 11, 2023 9:31 AM
Reply to  Researcher

to challenge the validity of the virus theory You can challenge the virus theory all you want till the cows come home, but you’ll accomplish absolutely nothing. First of all, you don’t have the first clue about the virus theory. You’re an imbecile online researcher who know zilch about biology. All you no-virus fanatics have is a semi-fallacious proof that the virology methodology is not entirely legit. You don’t even have a proof that it’s wrong – for that you’d have to propose a substantiated alternative theory – you only have a claim that it might not be fully correct. In other words, you have complete shit. Moreover, nobody gives a fuck about your claims, and rightfully so because you propose nothing. You propose no explanation, no alternative theory, complete zero. So, if you wanna contribute to elucidating the cause of disease, stop running at the mouth about the virus,… Read more »

Dave
Dave
Jun 11, 2023 12:56 PM

Well said. I lost respect for Patrick Henningsen who I still listen to a bit but he always bring MR. No Such Thing As A Virus, Steve Falconer.
Ol’ Steve is a Guru to the Flat Earth Cult.
Patrick says ” virology is a hoax” nearly every episode. I can’t prove shit. But I ain’t preaching shit either .

It is a split in the freedom movement as you say. This is its purpose . Those like ex -junkie Jesse Zurewll who also have fallen into the camp, may or may not be TAINT AGENTS!!!

FREEDOM.

Koba
Koba
Jun 11, 2023 1:03 PM

Theirs no pandemic mate.

Cannon on the Loose
Cannon on the Loose
Jun 11, 2023 2:00 PM
Reply to  Koba

There is no pandemic. But that doesn’t mean that the virus theory is wrong, as interesting as the issue is (FYI, I very much share the doubts the no-virus people express, albeit not in their fanatical way). The point is that all the no-virus people is a small dent in the virology methodology. Nothing else. That’s like FUCKING NOTHING. And the bottom line is that in regard to the medical totalitarianism that is being foisted on humanity, it DOESN’T FUCKING MATTER. The would-be dictators can use a long line of other things to accomplish the same thing. So, you wanna spend your life getting to the bottom of what causes the common fucking cold? Be my guest. Get a lab and poke there into some slimy shit for the rest of your days. You can periodically let us know what you’ve come up with. KIND STOP FUCKING IMPLYING THAT WHETHER… Read more »

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 12, 2023 3:48 AM

Wrong. On every count. Controls disprove virology. End of story. The scientific method requires the use of controls in experiments. Otherwise they are unpublishable, unverifiable, unreproducible, unscientific nonsense. I don’t care what rude, psychotic liars who don’t know the difference between “your” and “you’re” think. I’m only replying to your ignorant rant for the sake of those that are curious to know the truth. The following is for them, not you. 1) VIROLOGISTS HAVE TO FIND A PARTICLE FIRST, BEFORE THEY CAN CLAIM IT EXISTS. 2) Then virologists would have to prove this (as yet unfound) particle is chemically and molecularly unique from any endogenous particle. 3) This can only be achieved through isolation and purification, which is commonly done for numerous microscopic particles such as exosomes, bacteria and proteins. 4) Virologists would then have to prove that this unique, exogenous particle is the sole cause of a disease, through… Read more »

Loose Cannon
Loose Cannon
Jun 12, 2023 7:59 AM
Reply to  Researcher

You’re either a fucking shill or a mega fucking idiot. All of what you’re saying is basically true. Whether it’s relevant in biological sense, I don’t know, and I don’t particularly care. It is certainly irrelevant within the realm of medicine because for you to make a case, you’d HAVE TO PROPOSE A VIABLE ALTERNATIVE TO THE VIRAL THEORY, as opposed to endlessly trying to hump virologists’ legs. Get that through your demented head already. NOBODY’S GONNA LISTEN TO YOU. What’s much more important, however, is that the virus is only one of many possible vehicles the PTB can use to impose totalitarian control over humanity. If, say tomorrow, some authority ruled that viruses don’t exist and that it was a giant error (no such authority exists and if it did it wouldn’t do it), the PTB would turn on a dime and misuse whatever was the next most suitable… Read more »

kevx
kevx
Jun 14, 2023 3:55 PM
Reply to  Loose Cannon

STFU with your faith based medicine! i think it is time to start following people who text and drive and slap them in the face – see you in traffic phktard!

Loose Cannon
Loose Cannon
Jun 12, 2023 11:44 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Addendum:

Re: Toxins.

Kindly provide an isolated and purified sample of the exact toxin that causes whatever you claim it causes, describe the mechanism using the scientific method, and we’ll talk.

Until then, shut the feck up, for your blather is endlessly less scientific than what virologists have.

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 12, 2023 6:56 PM
Reply to  Loose Cannon
Loose Cannon
Loose Cannon
Jun 12, 2023 7:17 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Furnish an isolated purified sample of the toxin that causes, say, the flu, explain the mechanism how the disease is induced using a scientifically sound methodology (that would be the exact opposite of your mad croaking), and I’ll kiss your ass.

I’m all ears and in a way you’re preaching to the choir.

What you don’t get is that nobody gives a fuck about your dogmatic fanaticism. You don’t have shit and you’ll convince no one.

All you do is break up the dissent movement and focus people’s energy on a non-issue of no consequence instead of doing something positive.

Shove the stuff about trolling and lying back into your asshole.

Until now, I’ve been thinking that you’re a deluded fanatic, but if you keep going on, I’ll have no choice but to consider you a government shill.

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 12, 2023 6:23 PM

No, Jaques you psychotic, pathological lying, Freemasonic shill.

No alternative explanation needs to be supplied to prove fraud.

It’s a LEGAL issue of conspiracy to commit scientific fraud, and conspiracy to commit murder by injection. The published evidence of fraud and conspiracy is overwhelming. It’s in the scientific literature and on government websites and health agencies.

No alternative needs to be provided.

Stop repeating LIES such as this.

Your total lack of legal or scientific knowledge is why you need to fuck off, and stop trolling with your repetition of lies.

There is no such thing as “collectivism“ because there is no consent, implied or otherwise within the general populace.

The rights of individual men and women supersede legal fictions – corporations – “the state”.

Loose Cannon
Loose Cannon
Jun 12, 2023 6:47 PM
Reply to  Researcher

You’re deluded idiot, period. Where are you gonna prove the alleged “fraud”? Nobody gives a fuck. Not to mention that you don’t prove nothing. Don’t you get it you myopic twit? Even if you were 100% right about your claims, which is highly questionable, it would make zero difference. There is no, I repeat NO, authority that gives a shit, that will listen to you, that will somehow intervene and possibly rule in your favor. The only way how you could achieve anything would be convincing the general public that virology is bullshit, but the only way to do that is to present an alternative, viable, substantiated theory. Otherwise, nobody will listen to you. And they’ll have a point – all you have is a convoluted methodological construct that shows that virology is not 100% legit. You don’t prove them wrong, you prove them not certifiably right. And even if… Read more »

Koba
Koba
Jun 11, 2023 1:00 PM
Reply to  Researcher

“The controllers are the scum of society, a scourge on humanity. They should be outed, ostracized, shamed for their racketeering, their sociopathy, their conspiracy to commit murder and conspiracy to defraud the public using a fake “virus”.”
Major fatal error. You just want them outed, isolated and “shamed”. I want them executed. Your plan would leave them Scot free and they enough money to bamboozle enough idiots.

Researcher
Researcher
Jun 12, 2023 3:26 AM
Reply to  Koba

I mentioned only step one. Out them first, then put them on trial. After those initial steps, a jury (or a mob) will then decide their ultimate fate.

Loose Cannon
Loose Cannon
Jun 12, 2023 8:01 AM
Reply to  Researcher

put them on trial

Put who one trial? Where? There is no authority, no court, no venue that will ever deliver the kind of ruling you imagine.

In part because YOU HAVE NO FUCKING EVIDENCE, you dimwit.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 10, 2023 9:53 PM

The concept, “Others do not think as we do”, is a very important one.

Lulu
Lulu
Jun 10, 2023 8:49 PM

Where I work (food co-op) about 25% of staff and shoppers are still wearing masks. I think my community would “happily” dive right back into covid mode, no problem. They will be happy to don their masks and social distance, yada, bs, etc. I kept my stance a secret the whole time. Whenever people starting talking about their jabs, boosters, getting covid, etc. I would leave the room, so I never had to engage in a “When did you get the vaccine…” conversation, and no one asked me directly. I can practically feel the underlying eagerness to reengage with the whole drama.

Speedwellian
Speedwellian
Jun 10, 2023 11:51 PM
Reply to  Lulu

So many loved it. For all manner of reasons.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jun 11, 2023 1:47 AM
Reply to  Lulu

Lulu Rarely do I witness Public facial coverings. Where you Work and it’s been pointed out billions of times, You are NOT a member of the public while at Work!
Furthermore,
If you Travelling from Home and commenting as if you are home your a propagandist fibber. These were led by 2019-20 feminist ‘wokies’ on social medium programming platforms inside thankfully not practically outside in the actural encircling Public domains up to the March ’20 coronavirus Act.

Dave
Dave
Jun 11, 2023 12:58 PM
Reply to  Lulu

NOVA SCOTIA IS MASK HELL.
We are a testing ground for the military.

Koba
Koba
Jun 11, 2023 1:04 PM
Reply to  Lulu

Would help if you tell us where this community is. Many people forget or simply don’t know this is a British website. And expect us to accept what is said when in Britain very very few people are masked U anymore. So this must be a Canada USA Ozzie problem.

Ben Franklin
Ben Franklin
Jun 12, 2023 11:33 AM
Reply to  Lulu

Here in North West Wales you only see the odd person wearing a mask. Weirdly, a large proportion of them are young women with coloured hair.

I got asked have I had a vaccine and I (hand on heart) kept saying “yes, loads, hep b, hep c, yellow fever.” It took me a good while to realise they just meant the C19 vaccine! Covid is so far from the public consciousness here, apart from the assessing and unpacking of the house arrest.

j d
j d
Jun 10, 2023 7:40 PM

This energetic difference between the Heart and the heart defines our existence. Rockets into space looks like a phallic, male phenomenon, but it is actually a heart-centred activity, in the lower-case h sense of the word, as are wars between competing interests. Making more and more money, where it occurs to the exclusion of all else, whether practiced by men or women, is a lower-case h heart-centred phenomenon. But connection, spirituality and co-operation, these are Heart with a capital-H centred activities. In the coming years the hounds of hell will be unleashed as the old Demonic Masculine order fights a rear-guard action against the new Demonic Feminine order. The Demonic Masculine exits and then we meet the new boss, same as the old boss, the Demonic Feminine. Nothing gets better – and many things get even worse – because, and this is the crucial bit, the rulership of the world,… Read more »

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jun 11, 2023 3:04 AM
Reply to  j d

Rockets into Space are definable as motherships voyages from where they were launched. A total of universal international collaboration. To Twist the termination what constitutes a Man, is robotic Publicly on Earth emblically politically idiotic Fantasy.
Reality practical applications utterly separated from warmongering monolithic ideology.
Big Bertha’s Cities destructive Guns were Mothers that wraught destruction havoc, deathly Payloads. Those beforehand and after mathically term as a calibrated Paid Load. That means everyone pays for it.
One way or another Total European Continental War.

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 10, 2023 7:34 PM

I simply stopped talking to friends about covid. There was no point. They were never going to listen to me. My mother (93 years old) continues to put herself forward for the jabs despite knowing what I think and even listening to me with empathy. The trouble is that for every minute I talk to her, there is perhaps a day’s worth of TV propaganda that bludgeons her brain. At least I don’t see the fucking masks so much though it is interesting that in some places I note that people are automatically spacing themselves out again. Perhaps there is some kind of subliminal force at work. We had to wear masks at work for a year or two. Then we were permitted to take them off. Lately I have felt a strange “nakedness” without the mask. I never missed it before that. Is there some kind of drip drip… Read more »

Koba
Koba
Jun 11, 2023 1:08 PM
Reply to  George Mc

I have placed many jabbed family members (for my friends didn’t get jabbed for the most part cos they didn’t believe any of it) in a “oh well” category. When they go I have accepted it and been brave enough to say “they were herded sheep no better than the other non family sheep I’d love to see culled”. Major case of tough tit.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 10, 2023 6:58 PM

What we are witnessing is DEMOCIDE.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 7:04 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

I agree.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 10, 2023 6:57 PM

TPTB should not be assumed to be human.
Based on how twisted history is and all the BS taught about the nature of our world, they could easily be some form of artificial organism, machines or Golems.

Even humans that suffer from sociopathy or psychopathy, eventually have a conscience, and expose themselves.

There is nothing new under the sun.
Revelation isn’t an event, it is a cycle.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 7:04 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

I am beginning to think this might be true.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 10, 2023 9:58 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

The striking thing, for me, is that there seems to be an astonishingly sudden increase in the numbers of these humanoids. Which reminds me that there is a story in the Bible about a demon possessing a man, and when asked who he was, replied, “I am Legion”.

Or perhaps they are just refugees from Hell – no room left for them there?

At any rate, this is no Hollywood movie…

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 11, 2023 12:32 AM
Reply to  wardropper

Evil spirit (demon/devil) possession always includes many entities…for some odd reason.

sok
sok
Jun 11, 2023 1:25 AM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

concur

Captain Birdheart
Captain Birdheart
Jun 10, 2023 10:59 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

You may relate to this, they adopt hosts from the power families, apparently.
https://montalk.net/alien

Speedwellian
Speedwellian
Jun 11, 2023 12:28 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Try this A.I. is not artificial, it’s like a portal for disembodied entities. https://rumble.com/v2r2s4g-final-days.html?fbclid=IwAR0uCngzxXK1sPNgNJlNJX8PDiqFN23bN8pMYbndPQoXrix72B8vOyrvQPw

dom irritant
dom irritant
Jun 11, 2023 10:20 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

wetiko a real (mind) virus

Paul Prichard
Paul Prichard
Jun 10, 2023 6:46 PM

Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2023-06-07. OffG’s Quick Take: Lockdown was NOT a “policy mistake”…It was murder. Time you started to work for PEACE (blog, gab, tweet).

Speedwellian
Speedwellian
Jun 11, 2023 12:32 AM
Reply to  Paul Prichard
NickM
NickM
Jun 11, 2023 6:21 AM
Reply to  Paul Prichard

From your blog:

“‘ … all these athletes have suffered heart problems after COVID shots. At the time of initial writing, 28 died. That was not normal, but then, 10 days later, 56 deaths were listed, and the numbers are climbing. Any other real vaccine would have been pulled off the market long before now. … And governments are continuing on and running TV and radio and newspaper ads encouraging people to get their 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th shot. …

‘The deaths and severe reactions will continue until so many people die that it becomes obvious the shot is … worse than the virus it is supposed to treat’.

‘These athletes are the canaries in the mine that warn us of imminent danger.”

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Jun 10, 2023 6:30 PM
Ian
Ian
Jun 10, 2023 6:20 PM

Hi Todd I enjoy reading what you write, except the references to Hitler and The Nazis. What happened during this period of history is not as simple as many think. My mother grew up in Britain during WW2 and I believed, until later in life, that Hitler was a madman and his evil henchmen murdered 6 million Jews. I have now learned to be more circumspect about the whole affair. For example, I have come across evidence that supports the view that Hitler was Jewish and was a puppet of the Jewish bankers, a “judas goat” for the German people. Then, Miles Mathis puts forward the view that Hitler and the high ranking Nazis were, in fact, Jewish homosexual actors. Sounds crazy, but is it? Having read several revisionist historians, I am convinced that the 6 million gassed and incinerated Jews is fiction and was logistically impossible. So it goes.… Read more »

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 8:41 PM
Reply to  Ian

I am curious to know exactly what offends you about my references to Hitler and National Socialism. I am not obsessed with the “conventional historical facts” about all that, and seldom write about it. I do believe, and may be wrong, that Hitler was a totalitarian ruler and believed in the absoluteness of his rule—a true personification of a dictator. Are you arguing that this is not a fact? Are you arguing that Hitler did not write Mein Kampf? A lot of my beliefs about him come from his own writing. As well as the transcripts of the Nuremberg trials. Also his speeches, are you implying that his speeches were altered in some way? Or that photographs of the Nazi obsessions with power, military might, and eugenics were not real? Or fabricated? Mengele’s work? I am respectfully curious. Please send links to alternative views of Hitler and Nazism, I truly… Read more »

Ian
Ian
Jun 11, 2023 11:31 AM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Hi Todd You haven’t offended me at all. Having some interest in many of the aspects of WW2, I have reservations about the use of “the popular metaphor and symbology of Hitler”. As I said in my post, I am not going to argue any particular point of view because I simply don’t know, and I do not believe many do. What I do know, though, is that the popularly believed version of what happened is as full of holes as the proverbial Swiss cheese, and is probably as close to fact as 19 Arabs with box knives did 9/11! I have read Mein Kampf more than once and found it somewhat different from the blurb on the cover: the most evil book ever written. Really, there is more hate and vengeance in the Old Testament, which I have also read more than once. As to Hitler having written it,… Read more »

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 12, 2023 6:55 PM
Reply to  Ian

Nice reply, thank you. I have no problem believing that things in Germany during that time in reality deviate from the official record. Considering all we know about manipulation, surely it would be present in that history. I actually feel that I am relatively aware of this when I write…I try very hard not to make definitive statements about much…and it probably IS true that when I mention Hitler and NS I am falling back on my “conventional” knowledge about that era and the people in it. I would be VERY interested to read or see any of this “alternative” Hitler stuff…I am a bit of a Nazi “scholar” (at least in interest) so anything that gets closer to the truth is definitely of interest. I agree about Mein Kampf. I actually did not see it as the “most evil book” ever written. It was a bit whacked, sure, but… Read more »

Speedwellian
Speedwellian
Jun 11, 2023 12:38 AM
Reply to  Ian

You can say that one name and convey a whole lot of meaning, even if the historical facts are inaccurate. When you say to people NAZI, or Hitler, they know what you mean. I say to people, we now know who among us would have supported Hitler.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 12, 2023 6:58 PM
Reply to  Speedwellian

That is why I say I feel that I can use, as a writer, Hitler and Nazi’s at the very least as a metaphor…even though it might not give justice to the REAL Hitler. There are all kinds of things like this you must just buckle up to as a writer, you can’t explain everything if you want to write an article in less than 10,000 words…

sandy
sandy
Jun 10, 2023 5:46 PM

Genocide. Interesting. They did it/do it to indigenous peoples who, i am guessing, could/can not possibly understand the concept of genocide, colonialism, empire or enslaving an “other”. This realization took a long time. But all of us now should take heed and realize that leaders are sociopaths within mass culture. We need to eliminate them just as small indigenous tribes would fire or exile tyrants not keeping within their lane. But we keep voting for tyrants to make decisions for us. We need a ramp out of “representative” (bullshit) “republics” and graduate to direct democracy where we decide OUR policies and budget. We have the technology to achieve this in the modern mass culture of the 21st C. When the sociopath leader class gets wealthy and has bigger weapons, they go rogue on us Ordies who just want a decent, moderate paced life with family & friends, like low-tech indigenous… Read more »

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 10, 2023 6:31 PM
Reply to  sandy

Direct Democracy is nothing more than mob rules. Two wolves and a lamb deciding what will be for dinner. A lynch mob where the only dissenting voice is the person about to be lynched.

It is a form of collectivism where the individual has no rights unless the mob says so.

Supporting any form of government that does not place the rights and liberties of the individual above the mob, is tyranny, PERIOD. To support such a thing is ignorance of the highest order.

Your Tyrant Social Credit Score just increased.
Congratulations.

sandy
sandy
Jun 10, 2023 7:08 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

You’re ideological idiot score just broke the meter.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 10, 2023 10:04 PM
Reply to  sandy

Your

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jun 11, 2023 4:34 AM
Reply to  sandy

This Frey character is a feeble minded neocon.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 1:35 PM

Obviously you speak from experience.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 1:35 PM
Reply to  sandy

That isn’t an argument that refutes my assertion.
Try harder.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 8:44 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

From what I have read, Ayn Rand was not a real fan of democracy either, although she supposedly abhorred Soviet rule. She said a majority mob of stupid people would make stupid decisions.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jun 10, 2023 9:00 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Maybe stupid decisions are better than evil decisions, all in all. We legalized the weed in the state I live, by mob rule, because the so called representatives would not.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 1:56 PM

Obviously you are ignorant about the 9th and 10th Amendments that never granted the power to government to regulate plants. It is also called NULLIFICATION and primary principle of our Representative Constitutional Republic.

So you want Direct Democracy, unless that mob doesn’t agree with you.

Try harder at proving you are intelligent.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jun 11, 2023 2:24 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

Obviously you think you’re smarter than you are. You say the same shit over and over (“try harder”, “you’re not intelligent”, etc.) to everyone and are just a broken record. I didn’t reply to you, stop replying to me smart ass. I’m tired of your shit.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 11, 2023 7:16 PM

Nothing you have said refutes my assertion z because you can’t.
When people make intelligent comments and don’t contradict themselves and don’t ignore history, I will stop saying what I say.

Don’t care how tired you are and if you can’t handle someone replying to your public comments then get off the internet.

wardropper
wardropper
Jun 10, 2023 10:09 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

One of the few things I have ever wholeheartedly agreed with her about.

sandy
sandy
Jun 10, 2023 10:47 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

I cannot believe we are going to lock up creative thought towards a social solution with the old tired “majority rule is mob rule” nonsense. This is false binary thinking. The founding fathers devised this current scheme to protect the rights of individuals and society from tyrants like King George. The form of republic, representative governing, is a proven, nail in the coffin failure in the modern era of infinite access to money and authority for a leader class. Do y’all think that those of us who want DD are going to become somehow, collectively, tyrants? Really? The desire to collectively decide large overriding policies like war, poverty, racism, class inequality and equal access to resources for all will be tyrannical on individuals? I’ve said this on the following on these pages many times. Any version of DD is going to protect individual’s freedoms to live life the way they… Read more »

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jun 10, 2023 11:23 PM
Reply to  sandy

Rock on sandy. Some have a hard time separating the ideals of a constitutional republic with the constitutional construct of a representative government, which is clearly not in consonance with those ideals and never has been. Therefore, they blame it on We the People, i.e., the mob. We let anyone become a politician, as long as they get the votes, but we won’t let everyone be one? We clearly need a new government system, therefore a new constitution. Or maybe two of them, one for those in favor of rule by the wealthy, i.e., oligarchy, and one in favor of freedom.

sandy
sandy
Jun 11, 2023 5:21 AM

Thanks Albert. And exile the oligarchy with their own Constitution, to Alba where they can beat each other to death until extinction of the class.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 1:54 PM

Since you have all the solutions, why aren’t you already writing the next Declaration of Independence, form of government and constitution?

Also Direct Democracy isn’t new.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 7:45 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

Downvote does not refute the assertions made.
You fail at trying.

TRT
TRT
Jun 11, 2023 4:47 AM
Reply to  sandy

Individual freedom is possible with DD but would need to be guaranteed independent of democracy i.e. the public can vote on all policies but a majority vote for tyrannical policies would be null and void. In other words, democracy cannot put an end to liberty.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 2:00 PM
Reply to  TRT

Since you think you have the answer, why aren’t you writing a book or something similar to educate everyone?

This is why the Representative Constitutional Republic requires a 75% majority to even alter the Bill of Rights and why the first 10 Amendments are INALIENABLE RIGHTS.

How exactly is what you are proposing significantly different than a Representative Constructional Republic?

Try harder.

TRT
TRT
Jun 11, 2023 4:45 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

With direct democracy the public can vote directly on policies. That is the difference. But yes, we would need a democratic media free of oligarchic control to make it viable. Calm down and try harder to respectfully disagree with someone.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 7:45 PM
Reply to  TRT

A Direct Democracy would not recognize INALIENABLE RIGHTS, because in a DD, everything and anything can be voted in or out.

DD is nothing more than a variation of collectivism, PERIOD.

Having an honest press core or media system, would not change what a DD is, or how it works.

That you people think you are smarter than all the men that penned the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights, and argued the intent in the Federalist Papers, is laughable at best. No wonder Europe is still a cesspool of tyrants and aristocrats.

If you were actually that smart, you could prove it by starting your own nation, with a better form of government. You would at least publish a book about it.

Get busy.

TRT
TRT
Jun 11, 2023 8:56 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

I specifically stated that with direct democracy you would have to firmly establish safeguards to protect liberty. That would be paramount. So no, voters would not be able to terminate inalienable rights if those safeguards were established. Oligarchy would have a much more difficult time capturing this system than capturing a relatively small number of representatives. Sadly, we could have a meaningful discussion on this subject if you weren’t so rude and belligerent. I actually don’t have faith in the ‘mob’, particularly after the past three few years, far from it, but I do think a liberty-guided direct democracy would be an improvement over a system that is more susceptible to oligarchic capture leading to tyranny. I think the constitution and bill of rights were brilliant creations for their time and should still serve as inspiration in the fight against today’s totalitarian takeover. By the way, although I have published… Read more »

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 12, 2023 12:01 AM
Reply to  TRT

Then what you are proposing isn’t a Direct Democracy, because that isn’t how a DD works. What are you going to protect those liberties with? A constitution that you have already condemned as a current failure? Who is going to protect those liberties from the democratic mob? How will they be protected? What world do you live in where the mob (AKA Masses) aren’t already captured by media propaganda and gaslighted by narratives that TPTB want? We can’t have a conversation because what you are proposing is preposterous. How is what you are proposing any different that what the USA has in it’s Representative Constitutional Republic? If not representatives, then who? You think the mob is going to protect you from the mob? I am insulted that you and others think you are smarter than the framers of the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights. I dare anyone… Read more »

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 1:52 PM
Reply to  sandy

Mob rule is exactly what a Direct Democracy is and that cannot be refuted because it is an undeniable fact. The USA’s Representative Constitutional Republic is not a failure. If it was, we would have already lost free speech and our guns, like the rest of the so called Free Western Culture. If we were, or became, a Direct Democracy, the mind controlled zombies, the same ones crying for poison jabs, would easily be manipulated to vote rights away. That people like you cannot see this is sad. The fact that the USA’s government is as corrupt as the rest of the world is not a refutation of the form of government, it is evidence that We the People have failed at vigilance and holding the guards of government accountable for their corruption and crimes. The very reason we have the First Amendment and the Second Amendment. That you think… Read more »

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jun 11, 2023 2:28 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

Listen to you man, what a piece of work. Insulting everyone you talk to and acting like you know more than anyone else.
Why don’t you try harder not being an asshole.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 11, 2023 7:18 PM

I’m flattered that you think calling me an asshole matters. After over 25 years of marriage to the same woman, you have to try harder than that

History proves that my assertions are at least accurate. Nothing you have said refutes those assertions.

Keep trying.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jun 11, 2023 9:03 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Damn you’re weird. Whatever dude, keep on trolling.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 12, 2023 12:02 AM

Weird is an honorific in today’s clown world.
Calling me weird is not an argument.

Albert Anderson
Albert Anderson
Jun 10, 2023 5:43 PM

Watched a video of Bill Cooper the other day, from 1999, where he discusses the alien “scam” and how it would be used to scare people into the New World Order. He was a U.S patriot, and predicted a civil war based on freedom. He said what many others have said, there are too many of us that will never give in, that believe in the ideals of the Constitution and will fight to keep them, just as many of us had sworn to defend the Constitution when drafted or enlisting in the military.
Ya, buddy.

Like that ELO song,
“Looks like we’re ridin’ on the same train
Looks as though there’ll be more pain
There’s gonna be a showdown” 

No, we ain’t gonna let these punks win.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jun 10, 2023 5:33 PM

“Wasn’t that Hitler’s intention in Europe in 1933?”

German National Socialism is the product of the Versailles Treaty that broke Germany and put the German people literally on its knees; literally. Besides the astronomical, arbitrary and impossible Reparations imposed on its people, It forbid her to have commercial relations with other countries without the capricious nod of Britain and France. And the Versailles treaty means WWI, and WWI means Britain and France among major actors but chiefly Britain, and Britain means Capitalism.

Criticising German National Socialism, Hitler, its propaganda and war machines, the horrors of WWII without investigating the determinations that brought them about is a methodological errancy.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 10, 2023 6:34 PM

Germany was being destroyed for multiple reasons by TPTB.
Hitler and his cadre where the puppets that carried than plan to fruition.
WW2 also allowed the Balfour Agreement to be fully executed.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 8:56 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

For the record, there is no doubt in my mind that this is true…to an extent…but I still hold to my position that Hitler was not an innocent babe in this whole affair, and that National Socialism was, at its core, a manifestation of psychopathology.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jun 11, 2023 4:39 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

The Balfour declaration was issued in 1917. The banksters started WW2 for profits, for the fun of a big bloodbath and for an excuse to create Israel. It is possible that Hitler was complicit and controlled by the central banksters.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 1:44 PM

Obviously you don’t know what the Balfour Agreement says.
Never said it wasn’t issued in 1917. I said it wasn’t fully executed until after WW2 when there was enough public support, due to the holocaust, to displace the Palestinians for Israelites.

Try harder.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 7:37 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

Down vote does not refute my factual assertion.
Try harder at proving you don’t have down syndrome.

Cloverleaf
Cloverleaf
Jun 11, 2023 2:59 PM

I seriously don’t think he was.

Amanda
Amanda
Jun 11, 2023 3:19 PM

For more on the Balfour declaration, people should listen to Benjamin Freedman’s 1961 Speech at the Willard Hotel (on bitchute). He was an insider, assistant to Bernard Baruch (yesterday’s Soros/Rothschild agent), and he witness the behind-the-scenes intrigues that got America into WW1.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 8:53 PM

Sorry, I don’t agree. I did not write an article on Hitler and his purpose, or reason, to break out of Germany’s bondage, therefore I am not obligated to write a treatise regarding the “reasons” he did what he did. The “intention” of Hitler was clearly to bring Europe into his rule…that is a true statement regardless of his reasons for doing so. It is odd to me that you, and some other OG readers, make statements such as “criticizing German National Socialism, Hitler, its propaganda and war machines, the horrors of WWII without investigating the determinations that brought them about is a methodological errancy….” From my own assessment I never criticized anything, I merely stated what I believe to have been Hitler’s intentions in Europe in 1933. And that too is MY opinion, not yours, and unless you are advocating censorship, I believe I have a right to an opinion.… Read more »

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jun 11, 2023 12:09 AM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Of course you have the right to your opinion; is there anything in my comment implying the contrary? That doesn’t mean we should agree or that we shouldn’t voice our disagreement; or agreement for that matter. I’ll try to break it down. It is IMO reasonable to believe that anyone reading “The ‘intention’ of Hitler was clearly to bring Europe into his rule” can’t help themselves considering it a moral judgement, a negative one, even if you didn’t mean it that way, specially considering the subject and context of the article in which the quote appears; just like the statement “the government locked us down” is a negative moral judgement even though one just means to say something true. And if you say it is not a moral judgement and readers should take it as a true statement and nothing more, then you are asking too much of your readers;… Read more »

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 12, 2023 7:21 PM

Thank you…VERY well put. I liked very much the way you presented your argument. I can safely say then that you are correct…I was indeed depending on the more “conventional view” of Hitler as a tyrant and a megalomaniac in his attempt to rule Europe under his banner of National Socialism. And I must admit, until proven to me differently, I am in agreement, personally, with that sentiment. However, that being said, I certainly have room to consider other alternatives regarding Hitler’s intentions. I do not believe, simply due to general principles regarding the lack of objectivity in the historical record, that Hitler and even National Socialism was as it has been depicted by the official record. However, it would take a lot of convincing for me to change my view regarding my broad assessment of Hitler as a psychological person, and NAZISM as a pathological ideology. IMO Yes, you… Read more »

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jun 13, 2023 12:17 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Thank you for your reply. I share the same views.

The more violent, intolerant, disruptive, segregating and expansive a mouvement historically was the more we should try and understand how it came about and what made it what it is so it’s couldn’t happen again.

I don’t know if you speak French but if you do, there is a book called “La Politique Économique et Financière du Docteur Schacht”, 1936, by Maurice de Saint-Jean, which is a doctoral thesis. It traces back to the contextual, intellectual formation and development of the German National Socialism, how it compares to, and it’s view on Liberalism and Communism and the ideologies and mythologies from which it drew, and how that slowly gave the type of regime that took power in 1933.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 13, 2023 1:57 PM

Sadly I do not speak French…I am a typical language ignorant American. That book would be of great interest to me.

If Hitler was indeed the scourge history has made him out to be (and yes, in my humble opinion, I do not think he and the movement that put him in as their leader, were anything but pathological…I believe that the leaders of “free Europe” always had it in their power to squash him and NS. But they didn’t…and what they did do was create an environment that enabled Hitler to do all that he managed to do with relative ease…

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jun 14, 2023 1:07 AM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Then you might try a combination of Mœller van den Brück’s Germany’s Third Empire (1922) for the intellectual and ideological influences on German NS; J. F. C. Fuller’s The Second World War (1948) in its chapter, Background of the war, for the “quasi-immediate” causes of WWII; and Gabriel Gorodetsky’s The Impact of the Ribbentrop-Molotov Pact on the Course of Soviet Foreign Policy (2014) for an account of the events and context that provoked German invasion of Russia which precipitated its losing the war. I don’t think it was as simple as giving Hitler free rein to do what he wanted while the could have smashed him whenever they wanted, because Russia was there too and it was never certain if Britain was its ally and Germany’s enemy or its enemy and Germany’s ally, and that was mutual. A fact mentioned in history books is that German NS tried to legitimise… Read more »

Bryan
Bryan
Jun 10, 2023 4:44 PM

Todd; Civilisation-bound character – that is universal human character as human ethology (holistic character as represented in activity) – can only be determined as derived from holistic human behaviour in actuality and as dynamically ongoing as “anthropogenesis here and now.” Whichever is way too energetically complex and dynamic to reduce to isolated, independent behaviour; or to personal, singular, or particular activity. Individual activity is thus anthropogenically situated as a performative and constituent of civilisation-bound character. Or as collective universal behaviour. Hence our ethology, our activity, our work. In a world-constituting economy (Welmarkt) everybody works toward the same end; whichever can be characterised as a world-constituting ethology. WE – who produced this world as participatory embodiments brought forth by our own activity; wholly constituted as a circular self-actualising economic embodiment; located as incorporated within an industrial metabolic process of primary energy-production and primary energy-consumption; the result of which is our energetic… Read more »

Cannon, the Loose Variety
Cannon, the Loose Variety
Jun 10, 2023 5:24 PM
Reply to  Bryan

Holy fuck! This is by far the most convoluted piece of gobbledygook I’ve ever seen in my life. Wild!

You’re too sophisticated for your own good, Bryan. Gotta make it more accessible to us mere earthlings. Everybody is not as way the fuck out there as you are, mahn!

Bryan
Bryan
Jun 10, 2023 7:25 PM

Cannon Everybody uses the same interpretive method, believe it or not, whichever is basically greek-gobbledygook – not mine. We interpret the world together, not apart; and whatever we do, we do together, not apart; as non-local whole earth interpretation such is the ecology. Only, we don’t seem to understand the system dynamics as to why we do it as we do; therefore there is no reason for a global economy just a holistic power dynamics that makes no sense, has no meaning, is logically absurd, and still we have no alternative. I find all this elite blame gaming tedious; the terminology of ‘scum’ and such is getting us nowhere; we are all earthlings an we are all in this together so we would do well to understand our own metaphysics; whichever is none-sense unless we can come to some agreement on an alternative ending to the collective misinterpretation of the… Read more »

mjh
mjh
Jun 10, 2023 11:00 PM
Reply to  Bryan

I am pretty well educated and clear thinking, but — honestly — I cannot make sense of the stuff you have written here. You can of course write the way you want to, but if you want to get your points across to others, using a more a logical and clear writing style would be helpful. Or you could take up writing poetry; nothing wrong with that, and people don’t expect to all get the same meaning from poetry.

Bryan
Bryan
Jun 11, 2023 7:19 AM
Reply to  mjh

What is not clear to me is how people still envisage the world in personal terms when the anthropogenic activity that we participate in not only creates ourselves as bodies – it creates everybody and everything else all at the same time as a global activity that never ceases. Surely anybody can see that as we work, rest, play – the rest of the world is also engaged in activity which is non-locally interconnected. If we were all individual, we could only produce a limited amount of work, up to human physical capacities and natural appetites (which is how all previous humans and all physiological lifeforms lived and live.) Nobody wants to live in semi-subsistence; so we have to create an excess above mere metabolism which is what technology is. We do not just produce a technological excess or surplus energy in some sort of dynamic balance with the environment;… Read more »

mjh
mjh
Jun 11, 2023 9:43 AM
Reply to  Bryan

De-growth?? And how do you propose we do that? I expect it would involve loss of freedom and rights, and an increase in coercion by governments and/or agencies like the WEF. I agree we tend to want more stuff than we need as individuals. But the reasons vary. For some it is due to greed, for others to try to fill some interior void, caused by any number of things — a traumatic childhood, for example. You decry blaming elites, but they and their self serving power grabbing are surely a big part (not the whole, but a big part) of the cause for much of what has gone wrong in the world, and the past 3 1/2 years have shown that very clearly. I am making an honest attempt to understand what you are saying and to respond to it. This is probably futile, because you are, I think,… Read more »

Cannon,the Loose Variety
Cannon,the Loose Variety
Jun 11, 2023 12:48 PM
Reply to  mjh

I understand perfectly well what he’s saying, even though his loquacious style kinda gets in the way. What he’s essentially saying – which coincides with what I’m saying, as are others who don’t live in denial and delusion – is that the ever increasing vicious cycle of extraction, production, consumption, and waste generation, all fueled by an ever increasing burning of fuel, is not sustainable and puts humanity on a collision course with nature. When, I don’t know, but Bryan seems to have specific data on this. Humanity MUST find a different raison d’etre because the current system cannot indefinitely continue. It hinges on continuously increasing use of energy, but the world doesn’t have that. The cheap energy that put us on the current trajectory over the past 200 years of so is being depleted and it will run out at some point. And even if it replenishes itself, there… Read more »

Cannon of the Loose Kind
Cannon of the Loose Kind
Jun 11, 2023 9:37 AM
Reply to  Bryan

Totally agree with you on the “elite blame gaming tedious”. Even if it were true – and I’m sure that there are countless motherfuckers doing, or trying to do, all sorts of nefarious things that can be blamed for – but by putting themselves into a subordinate position people will accomplish absolutely nothing.

Either people propose something constructive, or the elites will do it for them (and the chances are high that people won’t like it).

Bryan
Bryan
Jun 12, 2023 7:40 PM

It’s not that the elite aren’t gaming the system — of course they are — it is more that probably everybody that will visit this site already has the highest material level of comfort ever produced. The haves and have nots split roughly 20/80 so even if the difference between the ultra-elite and the demi-elite (for want of better terms) is enormous; the drop off and gulf between the HICs and the LICs is even more enormous. We live in the space age. They subsidise our ‘star trek’ lifestyle whilst living in the bronze age. The average houseowner in the UK is in the 1%; and all some people want to do is moan about being oppressed when we are literally at the material summit of consumerism.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jun 12, 2023 9:29 PM
Reply to  Bryan

100%

Also, if we factor in time; if we consider the dynamics of the system, the impact of everyone of us is equalised, regardless of current levels of consumption or waste, since what’s small eventually becomes big and vice-versa.

Hence, it is not merely a question of redistribution but a matter of a complete withdrawal form the logic of the current mode of production.

The reaction of European and American middle classes hit by an unexpected hurricane which they used to see only on TV hitting faraway countries is being analysed, I’m sure of it.

Loose Cannon
Loose Cannon
Jun 13, 2023 10:41 AM
Reply to  Bryan

Historically speaking, humans in the global northwest which operates based on the technology-based Christian ideology, which aims to transform the world and use external means (technologies) to deal with the facts of life (understandable to an extent, but gone ballistic) have discovered resources and, more importantly, plentiful sources of cheap (easily extractable) energy that have allowed them to enslave the rest of the world in order to grossly overindulge under the consumerist ideology. In the greedy, gluttonous pursuit of satiation, they’ve also devised a perverse economic/financial system that allows shifting the cost of current production to the future through debt and seemingly creating wealth by drawing it out of thin air through fiat money. This perverse system, which hubristically disregards physical realities is not hitting its limits and collapsing under the weight of the heap of putrid shit it has become. Northwestern people, despite their beyond-the-imagination privileged status, are conditioned… Read more »

rossgopicotrain
rossgopicotrain
Jun 10, 2023 6:20 PM
Reply to  Bryan

big words and thoughts that, me thinks, could be simply reduced to: who dunnit?!? – we dunnit!!!! Big ups for the big words! RGB-Y3 out!!!

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jun 10, 2023 8:40 PM

I believe that’s it. Only we just got the form unfortunately. The content is lacking. We are saying “it’s us” like a 5-year would say “life is hell”.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 10, 2023 6:36 PM
Reply to  Bryan

Is this a fancy word salad way of saying that you think property rights should be destroyed?

Bryan
Bryan
Jun 10, 2023 7:27 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Thomas

It’s actually a word salad way of saying the psyche should be destroyed; private property is just an artifact of psychiatric care: no psyche: no property, simples.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 2:06 PM
Reply to  Bryan

That good people work hard and make the currency to have their own land is not evil, is not an attempt to control other people, is not harming others.

Sounds to me that you are just having a tantrum because you think the world owes you something.

Try harder at working.

Bryan
Bryan
Jun 12, 2023 8:04 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

The elite everyone keeps banging on about literally invented the currency as fiat — that is speech — because they said so; the currency is created ex nihilo from next to nothing — because they said so; the workers like you and me have to provide actual labour to them in return for the tokens of speech they made by decree — because they said so — therefore everybody works for 90.000 hrs across a lifetime for a mort-gage (death wage) to pay of the compounding interest on their assertive speech — because they said so. So we probably live with the highest levels of consumer materialism ever created; elsewhere the supermajority of humanity have to work for nothing so that we can have the consumption we have; an inglorious asymmetry imposed by war and then debt; the entire continent of Africa is a net importer of food and is… Read more »

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jun 11, 2023 4:42 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Are you saying the central banksters are entitled to their trillions ?

Bryan
Bryan
Jun 11, 2023 6:34 AM

No, I’m saying we work to create the banksters trillions; which is a measure and maldistribution of our productivity that would be better if we did not make; and if we only worked to reproduce or self-actualise ourselves biophysically without waste, there would be no scum and no pathology. Bataille’s “accursed share” is a measure of the waste, excess, and pollution we create which becomes unearned income that is non-productive which is then re-invested in waste, excess, and pollution – not in alleviating poverty and suffering but creating poverty and suffering – which is invested destructively until the greatest part of our energy is destructive futile cycling. But the banksters never existed apart from our endeavour therefore they are not a separate type; therefore the whole dynamic system is fucked up – overproductive as destructive; but getting rid of the ‘scum’ won’t help unless we downscale human activity to biophysical… Read more »

mjh
mjh
Jun 11, 2023 9:44 AM
Reply to  Bryan

You are at least making a bit more sense here in what you say; I can follow some your logic, even though I don’t agree with it.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 2:11 PM
Reply to  Bryan

You are a Marxist Tyrant, period.
Move to Russia or China or North Korea and enjoy your collectivism.

The Central Bank Cartel is an entity that was created by the English Crown and Rothschild via the Bank of England. It was just an extension of the monarch exerting control over European Economics. The beginning of fractionalized banking. An entity that has turned Free Market Capitalism based on merit and competition into Crony Capitalism based on government sponsored monopolies.

What you suggest has already been proven a total failure by history, many times.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 2:04 PM

Anyone is entitled to make as much money or currency as they desire.
When that is done by virtue, without harming others, and with an open market based on merit.
When the goal isn’t controlling the lives of other people.

The Central Bank Cartel exists because of corruption, and because of dishonest money. Not because regular people own property.

That you conflate the Central Bank Cartel with regular people owning property says more about you than anyone else ever could.

Loose Cannon
Loose Cannon
Jun 11, 2023 5:36 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

I was gonna inform you that you’re a fucking idiot, but that wouldn’t be entirely accurate. You are a fucking idiot, but let me qualify that. Within the myopic system of conventional values, roughly reflecting the arrangement that exists in the ‘capitalist’, consumerist society, whatever you wanna call it, your thinking – simplistic as it is – is essentially correct. Your fucking idiocy consists of the fact that you’re unable to see beyond the bars of the cage implanted in your fucking idiotic mind and consider issues of importance that goes much deeper than any of the shit you babble about. Honest money, dishonest money. What the fuck is that? Have you given any though to what money actually is? What it represents? Hardly. Think of this – if you find yourself in the middle of the ocean in a boat filled with money, what will be the worth thereof?… Read more »

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 11, 2023 7:35 PM
Reply to  Loose Cannon

Don’t flatter yourself by assuming you need to inform me of anything. Calling me a fucking idiot isn’t an argument that refutes anything I have asserted. Capitalism and Consumerism and are different things. Consumerism has been imposed as part of the Crony Capitalist system we are in, by engineered obsolescence of durable goods. Capitalism that is based in a free market, merit based, with open competition, doesn’t suffer from consumerism because engineered obsolescence of durable goods would cause that business to fail. What system them is better than Capitalism? What other economic system is merit based and open to the peasant class to find their own success? The opportunity to own their own land? Your ignorance consists of the idea of collectivism. An ideology of mob rules. Where the desires of the mob crush the individual. Where ignorant masses run everything into the ground. Idiocracy. That you don’t know what… Read more »

Loose Cannon
Loose Cannon
Jun 11, 2023 11:09 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

Capitalism is probably the worst of all systems that have been hitherto invented based on empirical observation.

It has brought humanity to the brink of self-annihilation. The intrinsic problem of “finding the path to your own success” doesn’t have a built-in mechanism that would prevent the system from destroying itself while in pursuit of its objectives, which is exactly what capitalism is conducive to.

You might want to ask yourself what exactly the “success” you’re referring to means.

Amassing more useless pieces of shit? Forcing useless pieces of shit onto others so that you can procure more useless pieces of shit? You call that fucking success? Give me a break, you superficial twit!

Oh yeah, you’re an innocent victim; it’s all been foisted in you by the mechant evildoers. Pathetic!

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 12, 2023 12:26 AM
Reply to  Loose Cannon

Capitalism, as in a free market based on merit and competition, is the most moral and virtuous economic system. I mow your lawn, as in provide a service, and you pay me. I performed a service that you wanted. I didn’t sit on my butt, and demand the government pay me, or take income from another, for doing nothing. Some people are so good at servicing their fellows, that they make more than others. They use their mind and work hard and build a business. They produce a product that people see value in buying. Those that think the person that makes more than others, should be coerced to giving income to others, is just a legal form of thievery via the mortal threat of violence from government. In a free society, those that become wealthy, have done so by being more effective and efficient at serving the needs or… Read more »

Loose Cannon
Loose Cannon
Jun 12, 2023 11:34 AM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

I appreciate that you’ve been able to refrain from obdurately imbecilic instructions about moving to North Korea and being a Marxist tyrant. In a perfect world, any number of societal systems would work basically fine and provide a framework for sustainable existence where everybody could be more or less content. Capitalism, your exalted glorification thereof notwithstanding, is a particularly shitty system because what spins its wheels are some of the worst human traits – namely greed, gluttony, narcissism. Likewise, or consequently, capitalism, or its manifestation put into practice by people pursuing happiness by “elevating their living standard” (read: producing and amassing more and more useless shit and thoughtlessly plundering resources in doing so), destroys everything in sight, including itself (!) in the pursuit of its raison d’etre. It’s more complicated than this, sure, but this is the gist. Capitalism – or the kind of system you describe, whatever fucking -ism… Read more »

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 12, 2023 3:51 PM
Reply to  Loose Cannon

There is no such thing as perfection within the context of human existence. Expecting everyone, or nearly everyone, to be content, is an unrealistic expectation. Life is suffering, labor, sweat and tears. It is up to the individual to find their happiness, joy and meaning. No one will find meaning when they are handed everything and don’t struggle to achieve. While people are created equal, and should be viewed equally in the eyes of law, we are not equal when it comes to being smart, innovative, physicality, athleticism, intelligence, aptitude, etc. Therefore there cannot be, in a real or honest system, equal outcomes for people. This is not to suggest that a system cannot be fair, or a level playing field, or caring. Greed, gluttony, narcissism, ruthlessness, cruelty, have nothing to do with economic systems. Those are traits of humans that lack morals, don’t have good character, and no ethics.… Read more »

Loose Cannon
Loose Cannon
Jun 12, 2023 5:08 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

When assess somebody to be a fucking idiot, I’m usually correct.

I won’t even respond to your regurgitation of the standard blah blah blah glorification of capitalism, that’s obviously pointless.

I’ll address one thing – why the fuck do you make any assumptions regarding my personal preferences? I’m trying to argue the issue, you patented dimwit, not to have a pissing contest.

Whether you (or me) like it or not, there are collective aspects of human existence and they need to be addressed.

FYI, I’m a total individualist, probably much more than you, but that doesn’t stop me from considering things OBJECTIVELY. Try it sometime too.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 12, 2023 5:55 PM
Reply to  Loose Cannon

The inability to form a rational argument that refutes my assertions is noted. Never claimed that there aren’t collective aspects of human existence. That I pointed out how amoral people of poor character, and no ethics, cause harm to all of us, is in point of fact, recognition of a collective aspect of life. The consideration of a collective aspect of human life, is not the same as collectivism. Collective aspects of human life can be considered, and addressed, without placing the needs of the many causing harm to the individual, or a minority. I have met many people that think they are an individualist, while at the same time pushing collectivism. For example, my wife’s uncle claims to support free expression, while at the same time condoning government censorship for the “greater good”, as well as believing that “hate speech” should be a crime. Cognitive dissonance is all too… Read more »

Loose Cannon
Loose Cannon
Jun 12, 2023 10:28 PM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

I don’t know who you’re talking to, but it’s certainly not me. Probably your uncle’s wife.She looks like she’d be a good interlocutor for ya.

Have a nice rest of your life. This is hopeless.

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Jun 13, 2023 8:15 PM
Reply to  Loose Cannon

An individual owning something isn’t the cause of the world’s woes. That nefarious honorific belongs only to governments and corporations.

I didn’t say anything about my uncle, or my uncle’s wife.

The only thing hopeless are cowards the fear living in a free society, while simultaneously thinking that they are smarter than the framers of the USA’s Representative Constitutional Republic.

I will have a nice rest of my life. Hopefully you do the same.

Balkydj
Balkydj
Jun 14, 2023 9:15 AM
Reply to  Thomas L Frey

So, how is yer’ uncle’s wife ?

Did he fix her kitchen sink ?

Uncle’s bathroom could be requiring capital.
FYI: ” Capitalism has Failed … ” Christine Lagarde.
Mansion House. 26th May 2014.
Even Oligarchs conceded.
Satoshi Nakamoto 📐 rules,
As a Commodity… ! Get a grip.
Remember this definition,
Was highly considered…
Calculating farmers interests.
Blockchain Distributed ledgers
Could also encompass,
Depleted Uranium Munitions !
But, will they ?
Capitalism is
Cancerous@corporate
Levels of Contagion.
Scum to skim… &
Dispose of,
Professionally, not like,
Corporate Capitalist
Cowboys !
Balky

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2023 4:43 PM

Anecdotal evidence on Vaxx harm: The Unseen Crisis: Vaccine Stories You Were Never Told | Documentary.webpDocumentaries COVID-19 RNA socalled “vaccines” were rolled out under authorization after a much shorter than normal testing period. Millions of people rolled up their sleeves because they were told they were doing their part to end the socalled “pandemic”. The Unseen Crisis is a feature-length documentary that provides an intimate, uncensored look into the lives of those who live with the debilitating after-effects of the COVID-19 RNA Vaxx. It examines the issue of Vaxx injury claims in a fresh, honest, and comprehensive manner with expert interviews, whistleblowers’ statements, and government health statistics.           The patients in the documentary suffered severe reactions to the shot and their health spiraled out of control. When they reached out to the public health system and pharmaceutical companies for help and support, instead of being acknowledged, cared for, and studied;… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Jun 10, 2023 1:48 PM

“All the world’s a stage” and we each have our part to play, as determined by evolutionary forces well beyond our control. Most play at being normal, content citizens of human society. But a few are “chosen” to play a more sinister part. You will know them by their riches. They are the despoilers, the enemies of life itself. They are the ones whose entire existence is taken over by a mania to destroy. They “create” things; but their kind of creation is predicated on destruction. They imagine themselves to be in control not only of their own destinies but the destiny of all existence. But they are just as hopelessly in the grip of the same forces the rest of humanity – of life itself – is. They cannot choose not to destroy. They were created by evolution to be the destroyers; it is their fate. With their dying… Read more »

Violet
Violet
Jun 10, 2023 8:03 PM
Reply to  Howard

*They* chose themselves to rule over mankind, they were not chosen by any god. There’s no such thing.

Maxwell
Maxwell
Jun 10, 2023 1:41 PM

“The most powerful influence was exerted neither by individual speeches nor by articles or flyers, posters or flags; it was not achieved by things which one had to absorb by conscious thought or conscious emotions. Instead Nazism permeated the flesh and blood of the people through single words, idioms and sentence structures which were imposed on them in a million repetitions and taken on board mechanically and unconsciously.”

– Victor Klemperer, The Language of the Third Reich

NikkiBop
NikkiBop
Jun 10, 2023 3:27 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

Like “be safe”. I hate hearing that. I always turn it around and ask, “safe from what”? I always get a blank stare back.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jun 10, 2023 5:16 PM
Reply to  NikkiBop

“Stay safe”

I like to use stay strong, or stay skeptical as rejoinders, but I like your comeback too. Will add it to the repertoire.

sok
sok
Jun 11, 2023 11:05 AM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

I lived in south London for a time in the 90’s and sometimes we would say ‘safe’ as an answer to mean ‘good’ 😎 

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 10, 2023 6:38 PM
Reply to  NikkiBop

Lol.
Sometimes we think too much.
It is a simple way of saying that another wishes you to avoid harm.

The easiest response is “Always”, or maybe just say “I will”, or “Thank you”.

nylon
nylon
Jun 10, 2023 4:46 PM
Reply to  Maxwell

“The most powerful influence was exerted…
………through single words, idioms and sentence structures”

If those are their most effective tools then we should use the exact same to counter-attack.

Going broken record and give them a million repetitions of our words.

In a battle of sharp tongues we can match our adversary,

Willem
Willem
Jun 10, 2023 1:25 PM

‘ For others do not always think as we do.’

Most people don’t think at all.

All we have to do is make them think.

Nature helps, since if stupidity doesn’t kill immediately, it certainly hurts which may open some eyes.

Just ask yourself how many would take another booster.
-There is your answer. People are wakening up, and the skimming off won’t work.

It never does.
History is on our side.

Still tragic that humans make the same error over and over again.

Guess most only learn through failure and pain.
So it goes.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 10, 2023 6:41 PM
Reply to  Willem

To make anyone do anything is coercion and rarely works out well.

Like the old saying goes, you can lead a horse to water and you cannot make it drink.

I just show people the water and those that are thirsty will drink.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 11, 2023 8:49 AM
Reply to  Willem

States of Emergency, and subsidiary laws ratified by “democratic” legislatures (a) censored dissent and evidience/reports of harm (b) compelled most people to submit to the dangerous (as in Russian roulette) jabs (c) withheld urgent medical treatments (d) took away most of the alternative options. It had little to do with thinking or stupidity.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 10, 2023 1:14 PM

Naomi Wolf: But to understand what has happened to us, I must ask you to suspend for a while a thought process that investigators call “mirror imaging.” This is when we assume others think as we do. Because most of us are decent people, and not sociopaths or psychopaths, we tend to assume that others are also driven by basic human motivations such as empathy, altruism, and kindness—or even just by the basic notion that other human beings are also deserving of life, self-determination, and dignity. — That’s a pile of delusional crap. The delusion is that “we” (i.e. our tribe) consists of decent, righteous people. The reality was described by William James — and others. — William James: The plain fact is that men’s minds are built, as has been often said, in water-tight compartments. Religious after a fashion, they yet have many other things in them beside their… Read more »

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jun 10, 2023 5:21 PM

“we tend to assume that others are also driven by basic human motivations such as empathy, altruism, and kindness—or even just by the basic notion that other human beings are also deserving of life, self-determination, and dignity.”

Those motivations aren’t particularly basic. What is basic, is the will to survive; it’s the first law of nature.

mjh
mjh
Jun 10, 2023 10:52 PM

Hard to go wrong when citing William James!

mjh
mjh
Jun 10, 2023 10:56 PM
Reply to  mjh

But to say something about Naomi Wolf’s view — the real weakness is in her use of the word “most” when discussing other people and our perception of what motivates them. We cannot really generalise about them. How many people are “good”? Some, yes, but 1%? 10%? 50%? And by good do we mean just not intending to harm others — or do we mean not deluding themselves? Not taking the easiest way out (like agreeing with your colleagues about Covid just to remain friendly with them and to make your life run a bit smoother)? Or do we have some objective standard of goodness/truth by which we assess others? And — folks, remember this! — by which we assess OURSELVES as well.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jun 10, 2023 11:16 PM
Reply to  mjh

I wouldn’t describe myself as “good” – and I’m certainly not “empathic”! I’m still trying to figure out why I give a damn. I think it’s mainly because I feel offended by all crap – and I find it disturbing that most people just seem to shrug it off.

BuelahMan
BuelahMan
Jun 10, 2023 12:39 PM

Wasn’t that Hitler’s intention in Europe in 1933?

No.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 2:04 PM
Reply to  BuelahMan

So Hitler’s intention was not to bring all of Europe into German control?

Violet
Violet
Jun 10, 2023 3:20 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

No, that was Uncle Joe Stalins intention not the other fellows.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 10, 2023 6:52 PM
Reply to  Violet

Stalin wanted Europe under German control?

Violet
Violet
Jun 10, 2023 4:57 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Actually his intention was to stop Bolshevism in its tracks & to destroy masonry and all the secret societies that are behind the nwo. Unfortunately he failed miserably, now look where we are for christs sake.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 10, 2023 6:50 PM
Reply to  Violet

Anyone that reads Mein Kampf, that understands how cults work, can easily categorize the ideals espoused as cultish. I think it is Gnosticism.

Hitler hitched his trailer to an Israelite Marxist before joining the National Socialists.

Hitler did exactly what the Banker Bosses wanted. Knowingly, or not.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jun 11, 2023 9:07 PM
Reply to  Violet

I guess he had some success … look at all the stone constructions that are crumbling.

Thiekbalj
Thiekbalj
Jun 10, 2023 5:07 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

See Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Anthony Sutton. Adolph was an intelligence asset/actor employed by the banksters.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jun 10, 2023 6:51 PM
Reply to  Thiekbalj

As others have said
All wars are baker wars
War is a racket.

Amanda
Amanda
Jun 11, 2023 3:22 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Yes, people should watch Mike Rivero’s All Wars Are Bankers Wars. Also highly recommend people delve into revisionist history- Ron Unz has tons of info on his site. We have been lied to about everything, including the wars (the lies certainly didn’t start with Vietnam and Iraq).

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 13, 2023 1:59 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Exactly. I think John Reed believed this…

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 13, 2023 1:58 PM
Reply to  Thiekbalj

I would have no problem believing this…

thinking-turtle
thinking-turtle
Jun 10, 2023 11:58 AM

Because most of us are decent people

Listen to a well-paid professional rant about blue color workers. I’m sure he thinks of himself as decent.

This goes up and down. Going up, bankers rant about professionals’ holidays and lack of discipline. Going down, the worker rants about beggars who clutter the streets.

This is the “class struggle” which is fought in unbelievably nasty ways. Check the humiliations imposed on the unemployed, supported by a large majority of supposedly decent people.

That these humiliations are moving up in class is only karma. Rather than begging the bankers to stop, professionals should treat workers better.

I don’t think this skimming the scum was intended to be a quick skim.

It all looks carefully planned by people who have a history of success.

Howard
Howard
Jun 10, 2023 3:58 PM

There was a time when the mantra of the working class was “Tax the Rich!” Ironically, this was said at a time when the rich actually were taxed.

Now the mantra is, as you say, “Get the Homeless out of here!”

Indeed, something has very carefully, over time, turned people’s thinking around.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Jun 10, 2023 6:59 PM
Reply to  Howard

Class is the one thing we are not allowed to talk about. The rich are simply rich due to their stellar work ethic, or familial connections which are not their fault. The poor are cursed, and they deserve what they get. A huge part of this is that vaunted Puritan work ethic in play, also racism which is one of the oldest tools in the book to divide and conquer as well as distract. If only one works hard enough and manages to overcome odds seriously stacked against one, then everyone could be rich…. One of those unconscious messages the West was founded on, one that many of us think is merely trite bullshit, and rightly so, but it has helped drive us to exactly where we are today. When people used to say Tax the Rich they still read things, books and such instead of depending on some idiotic… Read more »

Duckman
Duckman
Jun 10, 2023 11:40 AM

no matter which way you turn it around a dog turd is a dog turd and if you keep handling it inevitably the stuff will stick to your hands, then you wipe your face and so on, the rest is history, we should have seen it for what it was and moved on… so abruptly moving on who else here sees yesterdays take down of the Russian banking system as a mite suspicious? ready for the “retaliatory” attack on western banking systems? damn that cbdc cant come fast enough.. monday heralds operation “lets start something really big” sorry i mean “air defender” the worlds largest warship floating off st petersburg has been transfered to “nato control” and those little darlings at w.h.o are asking for a “practice run” at the new powers they assume they will steal under the IHR amendments…. 2024 is just so too far away oh i… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Jun 10, 2023 4:01 PM
Reply to  Duckman

Dolly had better be careful she doesn’t go the way of Joan Rivers.

Tom
Tom
Jun 10, 2023 11:07 AM

People are conditioned with the word ‘virus’. Covid is merely a variation on a theme.

AntiSoof
AntiSoof
Jun 10, 2023 10:27 PM
Reply to  Tom

Indeed.

Nicholas Creed
Nicholas Creed
Jun 10, 2023 10:40 AM

Valid points Todd. My friends and I discussed this last night at length. I think we’ll see the dragnet close in as the global digital ID ramps up and after WHO pandemic treaty likely gets ratified. NPCs are so well conditioned from Covid that they’ll fall straight into line. You could tell them about the next simulation (WHO planning now) and point to Event 201 and they will just smile and say it’s a good thing that the WHO prepared for it, and it is lucky that the next scamdemic is coincidently just like the simulation. Nobody can be forcibly woken up. They must to the work themselves. Hardest things to accept during awakening: Accepting that everything you thought you knew was false, and that there is innate evil, and that governments colluded to maim and kill on a mass scale.Realising that those same entities are actively continuing to try… Read more »

Clucthing at straws
Clucthing at straws
Jun 10, 2023 11:51 AM
Reply to  Nicholas Creed

You are correct. You can’t work it out for them.

But you can be there to answer questions when they get curious.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 12:24 PM
Reply to  Nicholas Creed

Accepting that everything you thought you knew was false, and that there is innate evil, and that governments colluded to maim and kill on a mass scale.Realising that those same entities are actively continuing to try and depopulate us.Finally letting go of the hopium that we are “going back to normal.”I see most people struggle to make the leap. They default to denying reality. It’s just too much for them. So so true, and so so sad, and so so frightening. I consider myself a relatively smart, educated, thoughtful, rational person, and this transition for me was very difficult. But while I was making it I kept saying, “there has to be another conclusion, this simply cannot be true…” but every time I would say that, something else would “prove” it WAS true…it is the only thing that makes rational sense…but it is SO radically off from everything I knew,… Read more »

Nicholas Creed
Nicholas Creed
Jun 10, 2023 12:50 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

It is a lonely and disorientating experience waking up. I was an NPC until March 2020! What I’ve since seen cannot be unseen, unlearned, forgotten, or denied. But that’s what I see people doing – they know what I know but choose to explain it away, or say narrative conversations are out of bounds. It was infuriating. Now I just feel pity. I too clung onto the delusion for a long time that we would get past all this tyranny soon and have our old lives back. Not so. Things are only just warming up (NPCs in a perpetual state of going back to normal in between each brief reprieve granted amidst the intervals of ‘crises’). I often wonder if the mental strain or trauma that we experience dealing with the reality of our situation is equal to that of NPCs that trick their mind into doublethink and dissonance. The… Read more »

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 2:43 PM
Reply to  Nicholas Creed

Well put…BF Skinner, the famous behaviorist, experimented with pigeons and found that if you gave grain as a reward, then took it away, then gave it again, then took it away, you could train that pigeon to peck the lever until it was dead with no reward.

Same sort of psyop going on here with these “respites” of “going back to normal”…”this won’t last long” they say, not realizing it has been going on their entire lifetime with only periodic eruptions where the government comes in to save them…every time…but the every time that happens a piece of finger is cut off at the knuckle. Soon no fingers will be left…

Howard
Howard
Jun 10, 2023 4:06 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Only scientists get away with animal cruelty. Let the “ordinary man” beat his dog and he’s arrested and fined. Let the scientist murder countless animals of every description and he’s given a Nobel Prize.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Jun 10, 2023 5:19 PM
Reply to  Howard

In the 1990s, I read of a British so-called ‘scientist’, here in the UK, called Dr Colin Blakemore. He’d done some horrific things to (I think, but can’t recall) puppies; ie, he’d been involved in the evil that’s called vivisection.
I was so enraged at what I read of his actions that I typed out a letter expressing my anger and disgust, and sent it to him (he then worked at either Oxford or Cambridge University, here in the UK – can’t recall which).

Needless to say, I received no reply from him.

One book which relates the horrors of vivisection is ‘The Slaughter of the Innocent’, by [Dr?] Hans Ruesch. I recall reading it, back in the 1990s.

Rob
Rob
Jun 10, 2023 12:47 PM
Reply to  Nicholas Creed

Thanks for this!
I think they pushed too hard and now the health freedom movement is taking off….
Their technology doesn’t fucking work, so how will they push it further?
They had a good scam with vaccines for decades, because they didn’t push it this hard and so fast. That changed.

Nicholas Creed
Nicholas Creed
Jun 10, 2023 12:54 PM
Reply to  Rob

Transhumanism is the ultimate goal. Convince the serfs that this world is too unsafe and terrible and that we are fragile and mortal. Get them chipped. Upload their consciousness to the cloud (who’s cloud? Some corporation?). Mandatory brain chips possible down the line – sounds insane, I realise.

Anyway, enjoy nature, love, laugh, live! Stay pro-human, we may soon be an endangered species… 🙃 

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 2:47 PM
Reply to  Nicholas Creed

I think what you say is closer to the truth than most things we hear. Transhumanism as a path to control as it applies to the useless eaters, transhumanism as a path to eternal life to those who have the control. Different models of robots…slave robots vs. master robots.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 2:45 PM
Reply to  Rob

The “glass is half full” perspective to what is happening is healthy, and no one should discourage it. But the “glass half empty” perspective is often the most realistic, and this “health freedom movement” just may be part of the agenda to divide us, or just a drop in the bucket that will not effectuate enough change to make a difference.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Jun 10, 2023 10:38 AM

Satan’s minions are in the mood for another genocide.
What a world we live in, that Matt Hancock can murder your granny (Midazolam) and the next week be on “I’m a celebrity get me out if here”
What a circus..

MattC
MattC
Jun 10, 2023 2:27 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

The fat dictator is absolutely not absolved from his crimes against humanity merely because he has stepped down as an MP.
For the avoidance of any doubt – he must answer for those crimes by climbing up the scaffold and taking a life ending drop. And he is not alone, there’s a very long list – so all those people who engineered the “pandemic” and benefited financially can live with this motto: You can run but you can’t hide.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jun 10, 2023 9:39 AM

Credit

I think we conspiract theorists can take credit for the demise of the Georgia Guidestones.Their continued existence durng the worst excesses of convid could have been the straw that broke the camel’s back.

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2023 9:27 AM

Todd should stick to psychotherapy because his knowledge of physical medicine is shaky. Firstly, “the jab” (ie, RNA Vaxx) did not “initially target the elderly” — it was the Covid-19 virus which did that, because Covid-19 is just one of the many Corona flu viruses, and flu normally kills the old and infirm. The Moderna Patent spike protein which is the main component of Vaxx was designed to turn a Corona virus that normally attacks bats into a Corona virus that specifically targets humans. Now we find that Vaxx preferentially attacks young healthy bloodvessels, killing youngsters rather than oldsters — but that was hardly the intention of Moderna’s scientists when they invented their patent “furan bindind site”. Secondly, the Vaxx is not “indiscriminately killing or maiming an assortment of people—young, old, rich or poor.” Unlike Covid-19 and other normal flu viruses, the Vaxx discriminates against the young. This is remarkable:… Read more »

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 12:31 PM
Reply to  NickM

Considering your intelligent comment I would think you would be a more careful reader. “The jab, initially SEEMED to target the elderly, or at least the RESPONSE to “Covid” was aimed in the direction.” How does that sentence in any way at all imply that I was saying the jab WAS DEFINITELY aimed at the elderly? I think you have to read a bit more carefully to understand my points. Sure, if you want to disagree, that is fine.

Also, there is not a single reference to academic medicine that would imply I thought I had a more than average understanding of “physical medicine.”

Not sure why I bother to respond to something like this.

Jenner
Jenner
Jun 10, 2023 2:41 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

NickM is a hoot as well as knowing all about “physical medicine”. Newsflash: there never was a pandemic in 2020 (Denis Rancourt); your SARS Cov 2 has never been isolated (many statements by public health AKA Sickness authorities): the PCR test of Prof Mullis has been declared by at least two EU courts to be invalid and the corruption in the “cause of death” stats in various countries in the run-up to the jab rollouts is well-documented.

Newsflash 2: the symptoms of “Covid” are similar to those of EMF radiation sickness (La Quinta Columna).

Just go on Telegram as well, and read Dr Mike Yeadon’s open letter to Dr Malone of 2 days back.

Btw, no virus has ever been isolated and Pasteur and Koch were witting or unwitting frauds, unlike Bechamp (Drs Sam and Mark Bailey, Cowan, Lanka, Kaufman, Koehnlein, etc. )

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2023 2:37 PM
Reply to  NickM

“remarkable that nobody seems to have compared the statistics of young deaths between two groups: the Vaxxed and the Unvaxxed.”

So remarkable that Dr.Dhand could not find official data of child deaths beyond 2020. In the video below, Dr.Dhand appeals for anyone to contact him with current data sorted by age and medical history [to my mind the most relevant comparison being young deaths among two matched groups: Vaxxed vs Not Vaxxed].

https://youtu.be/fu6ZBKspffU

George Mc
George Mc
Jun 10, 2023 7:26 PM
Reply to  NickM

You are making one hell of a lot of presumptive leaps there. We can’t say that it was “the Covid-19 virus itself” which targetted the elderly since so many had other ailments as well. Indeed, as OffG has said over and over, every covid case and death statistic is worthless due to the …. well, to the same presumptive leaps you make yourself.

You would actually have made far less of a leap in reading the whole article. You were so close to the end anyway.

AntiSoof
AntiSoof
Jun 10, 2023 10:24 PM
Reply to  NickM

That is to say, íf one does believe in a so called ‘virus’ which I doubt to excist. One can not prove the existence of such ‘virus’.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 10, 2023 9:26 AM

Your target population is anyone delusional enough to believe Government lies about the safety of Covid vaccines, let alone their purported ‘efficacy’.

OK, you don’t have a 100% kill rate, but as that target population was so incredibly high, even 1% kill rate is a cool 50 million dead.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jun 10, 2023 2:48 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

It’s a start, eh?

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2023 3:03 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

“target population was so incredibly high even 1% kill rate is a cool 50 million dead”

Which is why vaccines, which are meant to target the whole world population, need to be tested for 10-15 years before general release. It was criminal irresponsibility to release RNA Vaxx so soon, even if RNA injection had been a normal vaccine and not a Hail Mary experiment.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Jun 10, 2023 7:27 PM
Reply to  NickM

There is no “vaccine” that is going to make one bit of difference if there is no real novel disease. As stated so many times, the PCR is NOT a test, was never meant to be a diagnostic tool, so any “case” numbers gleaned from it are bullshit, period. As for the normal testing time of 10-15 years for vaccines, how’s that worked out for some of the less supposedly noxious ones, MMR anyone? The very idea that ANY of these vaccines were ever truly safe or effective should by now be seen for the lie that is. But no, now we’re going to quibble over whether the latest medical miracle is mRNA or not, but we will never discuss if there was ever any need for any of them, mRNA or not. As for a Hail Mary experiment, the very premise of that whole idiocy is flawed when one… Read more »

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jun 10, 2023 7:54 AM

I was out for lunch with a group yesterday. All intelligent, professional people earning squillions a year.

All were multi-jabbed.

All had had ‘covid’ at least once, one of them three times.

Despite their obvious intelligence and the many holes in the narrative, they were all seriously still on board with the official version.

We touched on the restaurant we were in being closed for two years.

“Because of covid” They all said together and nodded sagely.

I used to say “No, because of the government’s restrictions ”

But I stopped doing that because nobody was listening and I’d rather enjoy the company.

So I said “Yes, because of covid”

Indeed, the turnip has more to yield !

MattC
MattC
Jun 10, 2023 8:22 AM

But I stopped doing that because nobody was listening”.

Spot on – all the disciples have absorbed their brainwashing and will not permit facts to upset their beliefs. If they are unable to question why a “safe and effective” drug needs endless replacements, why CV19 is only caught by the “vaccinated”, why so many people became hugely wealthy during the so called “pandemic”, why Boris Johnson is “stepping down” (so he can avoid any further scrutiny when he starts spending his ill gotten gains), why the WHO is demanding new global powers for future “pandemics” despite their last one only achieving a 0.23% global infection fatality rate then they don’t deserve any respect or help.

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2023 9:44 AM
Reply to  MattC

By telling the truth one can shame the devil out of their minds.

Mark EL
Mark EL
Jun 10, 2023 8:53 AM

How do you ‘enjoy’ the company of such people?

It’s a serious question.

I tried to get my friends and acquaintances to question, but they wouldn’t – and these are academics – so I disengaged from them all two and a half years ago. It’s quite clear that none of them have yet questioned anything or done any honest research.

I can’t ignore that.

These people have let me down, let us all down, colluded with the psychopaths and caused serious harm, they’re dangerous and cowardly.

I’ll never forgive them.

Why would I want to be in the company of such people?

Clucthing at straws
Clucthing at straws
Jun 10, 2023 10:05 AM
Reply to  Mark EL

“How do you ‘enjoy’ the company of such people?”

In the recent reign of terror the population was split into two camps.

Those who believed and blamed the non-believers for killing their granny and wanted to see harm come to them.

The other camp, the non-believers, had a hard time of it with restrictions, vilification and, for many, the loss of their livelyhoods.

The non-believers, however, in general did not wish the believers any harm. Quite the opposite, the non-believers tried to steer the believers and let them see the truth.

My two- pennorth was not enough to convince someone that had been duped by the biggest and most expensive advertising campaign in history.

So, I have a choice.

I can piss into the wind or I can relax a bit and enjoy the rest of my life.

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2023 3:10 PM

I find that I can “enjoy the rest of my life” without keeping silent about the harm done by Con-19.

“Tell the Truth and shame the Devil”.

And if the Devil won’t speak to you, so much the better.

mjh
mjh
Jun 10, 2023 8:16 PM

At this point in time (between the waves of fear mongering brought us courtesy of the WEF et al) you may be right, that these associates of yours don’t mean you/the unvaxxed any harm. Maybe, I’m not sure. But I do think they will turn on you given the next wave. It is hard to live without trusting people, I know, but it is just as hard, even harder, to live knowing you will constantly find yourself opening your mouth and agreeing with lies.

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Jun 10, 2023 10:26 AM
Reply to  Mark EL

I totally agree with you. Since the start of this global coup d’etat in early 2020 (N.B., yes, I’m well aware that nefarious things have been perpetrated on Earth by the ‘Powers-that-should-NOT-be’ for one hell of a lot longer than merely the last 3+ years… I’ve been ‘awake’ for 40-45 years), I’ve been providing my family members, and all bar a couple of my already ‘awake’ friends, with masses of trustworthy information from honest doctors, nurses, scientists, lawyers, economists, funeral directors, embalmers, and the few [rare…] honest politicians, etc etc, re. what’s really going on, worldwide. But the information I’ve given them has been totally and utterly ignored, including re. the dangerousness of the injections. My gullible, brainwashed, naive relatives and friends have each had either three or four injections… despite their having received, from me, mountain-loads of incontrovertible evidences re. how lethal they are (whether in the short-term, or… Read more »

Christine Thompson
Christine Thompson
Jun 10, 2023 3:33 PM

I have a friend who’s Spanish (she used to be my ‘boss’ between 1988-90, those two years having been part of my 12 years in the Civil Service in London; we’ve remained good friends ever since). She’s 88, and she & her English husband have been married for 53+ years. They live just outside London, in Essex. I moved from London to where I live now, Lincoln, in 2001. I was chatting with her earlier today on the phone, and she told me that she and her hubby have recently had their 5th injection… I’d been providing them with information re. what’s really going on, worldwide, and re. how dangerous the so-called ‘vaccines’ are, from the start. But they have chosen not to listen to the facts… they choose to still ‘believe’ what their TV ‘tells’ them (at least, regarding what she still refers to as that word beginning with… Read more »

Ort
Ort
Jun 10, 2023 8:02 PM

I know a few people who obviously know that the official narrative isn’t entirely credible or trustworthy, but still generally accept and comply with the narrative.  I do have sympathy on a case-by-case basis; I’ve often commented about a friend, M., who claimed that she didn’t trust the “COVID vaccines” at all— but dutifully got the jab and subsequent “boosters” because being fully-jabbed was mandated for all visitors to a state nursing facility where her husband, who has advanced MS, resides.  But I still wince at their rationalizations. M. is partial to obfuscatory false equivalences, e.g. “Oh, everybody has theories about what’s really going on, but nobody really knows!” She is still secretly skeptical enough not to join the scamdemic-thrall contingent that sneers outright at people who advocate “doing their own research”, but she avoids and dismisses critiques on this “nobody really knows” principle . There are many variations on this “skeptical… Read more »

Jos
Jos
Jun 10, 2023 8:37 PM
Reply to  Ort

From the beginning I told everyone I cared for to ‘wait and see’. I waited and I saw there was no need to have a jab. Of all the people I said this to, only one person listened. Some of the others regret that they went ahead and had the ‘vaccine’. But I’ll be honest – none of the multi-jabbed people I personally know have died or got very ill. So who knows? I believe there were ‘booby-trap batches’ that seriously harmed some people but I don’t believe they were all harmful. It’s like Russian roulette though. The more times you roll up your sleeve, the more likely it becomes you get a bad batch.

Lizzyh7
Lizzyh7
Jun 10, 2023 10:00 PM
Reply to  Jos

Of course. They are running a live trial, so it should not surprise us at all if some batches are worse than others. No one I personally know has died either, and I don’t think any have had really bad side effects, yet. But I have to wonder if any of them would tell me about those, knowing I am a refusenik. One who is vaxxed has a friend who is also vaxxed who is having some pretty significant eye issues, and it is public knowledge the vax can cause those, but my friend passes that off as “long covid” naturally.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jun 10, 2023 5:59 PM

“A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men.”

Willy Wonka

mjh
mjh
Jun 10, 2023 8:21 PM

My nephew’s son, a young man, died from the vaccine: enflamed heart, and no previous heart problems. My nephew doesn’t see the link. His wife (actually ex-wife) does, she told me so, but she says she can no longer think about it. It hurts too much. I tried to convince her to press a lawsuit, to get involved in campaigns to bring out the truth. She can’t; she just wants to forget. I think we do need to be compassionate enough to understand this: some people find the pain of loss too much to look in the face. They have to keep their knowledge of what happened in a small, separate compartment of their brains.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jun 10, 2023 2:46 PM
Reply to  Mark EL

What if they’re your relatives? Your mother, for example? How do you ‘disengage’ in that case? I just have to accept that she’s incapable of grasping such a monstrous evil, being a very nice person herself. I can’t hold her goodness against her, can I? Yeah, it’s frustrating. But what can I do?

Jos
Jos
Jun 10, 2023 8:45 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

My mother was offered the jab at the age of 99 and refused saying ‘I don’t believe in the coronavirus’. She died of something else (basically the removal of her medication) but they were pushing to put Covid on her death certificate. One honest carer told us that the choice of what to put as the cause of death depends on how to avoid an investigation – so if medication has been removed, they would write ‘dementia’ as this couldn’t be linked to the removal of meds. This may be why dementia is the number one cause of death in the UK.

mgeo
mgeo
Jun 11, 2023 9:20 AM
Reply to  Jos

Before dementia and “covid”, flu was a good general verdict for death in the elderly. Though the latter tend to have multiple serious ailments, “flu” closes the case smoothly.

AntiSoof
AntiSoof
Jun 10, 2023 9:54 PM
Reply to  Mark EL

“Why would I want to be in the company of such people?”.

There are wise people and there are fools.
But since one’s mind is partly an illusion, you can handle both well. (If you are wise)
But then you must keep wisdom aside for your wise fellow men.

If you don’t want to be with fools, you can forget about 99% of people.
But that’s a shame. A human can be nice, even if he or she is foolish, I think.
So don’t leave them? Maybe they need a wise human?

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jun 10, 2023 9:29 AM

‘intelligent’ is a very subjective term. Being intelligent about computer coding doesn’t make you intelligent about the female psyche if you are a male geek. It just makes you good at writing code.

Being intelligent about babies makes you an excellent mother of infants, but it doesn’t necessarily make you a good judge of grown men.

Being intelligent on a rugby pitch may not make you intelligent about climate change.

If there’s one thing I’ve learned, it’s that being good at passing exams doesn’t make you an intelligent skeptic where propaganda is concerned. As a young man, I was brilliant at the former and useless at the latter.

I learned in adult life to hone my skeptical intelligence, mostly through the school of hard knocks….

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2023 3:15 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

“the school of hard knocks….”

The Old School, to which we all belong:

“Praise be to Zeus who set this Law in His sky:
That humankind must learn by suffering” — Aeschyles.

If we will learn no other way.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Jun 11, 2023 1:46 AM
Reply to  NickM

Life is suffering. — The Buddha

Unfamiliar with the Aeschylus quote, but I like it.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Jun 10, 2023 9:34 AM

Dry Up

Expressing distrust in the convid narrative would almost certainly cause the source of the “squillions” to dry up very quickly. The banksters had to use both carrot and stick in enforcing the dystopia. Professionals were more vulnerable to the blackmail as they had more to lose. They are closer to the centre of power and are under closer scrutiny.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jun 10, 2023 10:14 AM

I’ve written about this on another thread.

It’s difficult to rebel when your mortgage and the kid’s schooling depend on you not rebelling.

it must be very easy to take the line of least resistance and suspend belief for a bit.

I do it regularly when I buy meat in a nice, blood-free, ready to cook package.

Yum !!

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Jun 10, 2023 2:54 PM

Yeah. They’re the ‘Outer Party’ under the watchful eye of the ‘Inner Party,’ as Orwell might say.

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2023 3:17 PM

The French call it, “Trahison des clercs”.

(Betrayal by the professional classes).

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2023 9:42 AM

Don’t give in. Don’t stop saying:

“It closed because of Lockdown, not Covid.”

“Tell the truth and shame the Devil” — Proverb.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jun 10, 2023 10:20 AM
Reply to  NickM

Nick, I’ve done that for three years.

Everyone knows my views.

It closed because of covid can mean it closed directly or indirectly because of covid.

TBH I’m bored of the conversation.

I can choose to make my life miserable or lighten up a bit.

Jonas Carling
Jonas Carling
Jun 10, 2023 10:59 AM

Okay, let me give you another perspective on why you should spend less time with these people.

Ultimately, when the shit hits the fan (and I am not referring to vanilla stuff like “oh, my mortage payment has gone up” or “oh, my kids’ school wants my kids to be dressed as drag queen” … since you mentioned mortgage and schooling), when truly thing become nasty and you may have to run for your life (trust me, It will turn nasty very soon) , your only lifeline is to have been built a network of likeminded people who will be willing to sacrifice all comforts to help each other.

So, while you are using your time to have “good time” with your normies, you are not using it effectively to build around you a network of people you can ultimately trust in times of need.

Clucthing at straws
Clucthing at straws
Jun 10, 2023 11:18 AM
Reply to  Jonas Carling

Jonas,

You make a good point.

I already have that network. People with resources both physical and mental.

You would be surprised, as I was, who is onside.

People who I would not have thought to reach out to have reached out to me.

I might not have met them if I didn’t mix with “normies”.

NickM
NickM
Jun 10, 2023 3:39 PM