AUDIO: WTF Just Happened in Russia?
Rolo Slavskiy joins James Corbett to discuss the crazy events in Russia this past weekend.
Did Yevgeny Prigozhin just lead a mutiny? A coup attempt? Was this a psyop? A false flag? A “special military operation” (to use the Kremlin’s lingo)? Or something else entirely? And, is it really over? If so, who won?
Buckle up and get your notebook ready, folks. This is going to be a data dump.
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Kissinger: Something bad might happen if Washington doesn’t accept the Multipolar World Order. Washington: Stitch that, Henry! (paraphrased) Kissinger’s message was amplified by the sock-puppets at Zero Hedge and Infowars. — https://www.newswars.com/kissinger-warns-washington-accept-new-multipolar-global-system-or-face-a-pre-wwi-geopolitical-situation NewsWars: October 15, 2022 Originally: By Zero Hedge, April 10, 2021 Kissinger Warns Washington: Accept New Multipolar Global System Or Face A Pre-WWI Geopolitical Situation In a recent Chatham House webinar with former British Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt, 97-year-old Kissinger called on the U.S. to create a balance with existing global forces . . . [see Newsweek article] Kissinger’s career is washed in blood . . . However, his most recent statement about the U.S. and the international system is actually a mature proposal that would be beneficial for world peace if the Biden administration accepts his advice that the global order is changing. It is unlikely that Washington is ready to unilaterally end its hard and soft… Read more »
Whatever happened to the old James Corbett? — FLASHBACK: Meet Henry Kissinger (2009) update video: Aug 21, 2022 From: Episode 106 – Meet Henry Kissinger Nov 1, 2009 Description: A war criminal, a genocidal eugenicist, a power-hungry plotter, a modern-day Machiavelli, a Rockefeller toadie. Meet Henry Kissinger. https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-106-meet-henry-kissinger https://odysee.com/@corbettreport:0/ep106-kissinger:c — Episode 252 – Meet Zbigniew Brzezinski, Conspiracy Theorist Jan 4, 2013 Conspiracy theorists like Zbigniew Brzezinski believe that organizations of interest work behind the scenes to manipulate world politics. They believe that false flag terror events are used to justify wars of aggression on political enemies. They believe that humanitarian rhetoric is used to mask military aggression, as in Syria. In short, they are realistic observers of world politics, just like Zbigniew Brzezinski. Join us today on The Corbett Report as we hear all about the conspiratorial view of history straight from the horse’s mouth. https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-252-meet-zbigniew-brzezinski-conspiracy-theorist https://odysee.com/@corbettreport:0/meet-zbigniew-brzezinski-conspiracy:b — Don’t Mention… Read more »
Interesting take on the “rebellion:”
https://english.pravda.ru/opinion/156979-pmc_wagner_coup/
by Guy Somerset & includes a few bits I didn’t know. It’s a pro-Putin piece and rather sprightly.
James corbett cannot be trusted. He is another fine fellow who will only go so far and will self censor himself when questions of who the real enemy are come to light.
Henry Kissinger’s narrative is not coherent at this point. – Andrew Anglin – The Unz Review – May 27, 2023 The IIA operatives are struggling to understand what just happened. And do they really think that the branch manager (i.e. Putin) has the power to launch a nuclear Armageddon? — https://www.unz.com/aanglin/kissinger-again-says-the-ukraine-conflict-is-natos-fault-but-also-the-ukraine-should-join-nato/ Kissinger Again Says the Ukraine Conflict Is NATO’s Fault, But Also, the Ukraine Should Join NATO Andrew Anglin – May 27, 2023 (Republished from The Daily Stormer by permission of author or representative) Henry Kissinger’s narrative is not coherent at this point. He was seemingly siding with Russia, then he switched it up and said the Ukraine has to join NATO. Now he’s mixing the seemingly conflicting narratives together. I guess we need to remember, regardless of what we think of Kissinger (I’m generally positive about his record, or at least not as negative as a lot of people… Read more »
Danny Haiphong says: Priggie is PUTIN his place. Now prepare for Ukraine’s demise.
https://youtu.be/U-NugJb8vVk
What just happened is the same thing that’s been happening since the “SMO” started – FUCK ALL. I have been looking for evidence there’s a real serious war in Ukraine involving the Russian military since March 2022. I’ve never found any and when I have asked people to post evidence they don’t come through All I have seen is images of old Soviet hardware being used by volunteer Donbass militia men. exercises involving this old hardware and these militia men firing off rounds of ordnance against an “enemy” we never see images of destroyed infrastructure that could be anywhere any time in the last eight years of the civil war armoured vehicles displaying “Z” painted on and NO unit ID or national ID. Can anyone find me a pic of an identifiable Russian AV bearing identifiable ID tags provably in action in Ukraine? images of alleged mass graveyards that make… Read more »
Incredibly long and complex comments below. Who reads them. If you ask me, the really big problem is that most of us, however caring, have completely lost plot. Here we are in this, erm, cyberspace. We are only here because we lost touch completely. We tune in to find stuff, the sort of stuff that makes us go omfg, and find commonality amongst the others that go omfg to the same. The problem is that to solve anything, to move forward isn’t here. Not here hearing stuff that fits your opinion, hearing stuff that doesn’t, requiring eloquent commentary. No way….. Its the person to person, one soul to another that matters in reality. All these long tramps of opinion, expressed no doubt through need, and recorded here, and witnessed in digit space, are utterly meaningless and pointless. Its the real world we have lost, and it’s the real world we… Read more »
Balgorg, I’ve never seen an evidence that this site seeks to be relevant in the real world. You got that right.
Go easy, Penelope. Occasionally OffG needs to be reminded of an aspect of reality that some reader may be more aware of, but on the whole OffG has a good record in piercing the web of official falsehoods.
You probably remember what happened to the mythical Greek lady who persuaded Jove to reveal himself to her as he really was, instead of coming as a mere mortal animal. Or the shock when Faust found it easier to summon the Devil than to summon the Real World (aka the Earth Spirit).
The Real World is for too large and complex for any mortal creature to comprehend.
“The truth is scattered all around us, and we can pick it up only in bits and pieces” — Bantu Proverb.
Then why not stop wasting your time with us “Penelope”.
To lightly dismiss others’ contributions as “utterly meaningless and pointless” is self-important ignorance.
WTF Happened to James Corbett? Contrary to the narrative pushed by Corbett, the plan was to defeat Kissinger’s Multipolar World Order. It never was “politics”. Rather, it was always a military operation. Trump was a “wartime president” in “a different kind of war”. It’s the “secret war” against the “invisible enemy” – the “monolithic and ruthless conspiracy”. The existence of which is denied by Corbett. Everything else was just theatre or battlespace maneuverings. They (Pence etc) never had any intention of weakening US power or dismantling Nato. Consequently, they made deals with the Washington establishment and the MIC. The Epstein files and Durham investigation were only ever about leverage. And as with the quote from Hitchhikers, Trump’s role was to create theatrical distractions. Question: When are people going to see through Corbett and his strawman deflections from what’s really happening in the world? BTW: I could stand only 20 mins… Read more »
From Alexander Mercouris:
“Putin Confirms Russian MoD Funded Wagner”
https://youtu.be/i-C4XJGO2xc
Priggy has been called out for cheek by the Head, and will lose all his Milk Monitor privileges.
That was a terrific story but I realized it was 100% fiction at 1:18 or thereabouts when the (not CIA) expert advised that there was no way Russia are clearing out neo Nazis from Ukraine because the Ukrainians elected Zelenski who is a Jew…
The implication being
1.Zelenski was elected in the real democracy and
2. as a Jewish leader combined with Ukrainian population neo Nazis cannot exist there
It’s classic manufactured BS rabbit holery or bury the conspiracy under endless BS conspiracies
WTF Happened in Russia? To produce this sort of shite: https://www.geopolitika.ru/en/article/russia-needs-novorossiya Russia Needs Novorossiya Nicholas Nicholaides 18.10.2017 Russia needs Novorossiya and Malorossiya – at least the part of Malorossiya that is east of the Dnepr river. These parts are not “ukrainian”, they never were and they never will be! These parts are as genuinely russian as Moscow or St Peterburg but because of a historical mistake – the break-up of the Soviet Union in stead of the modernisation of it – these parts are now outside of mother Russia. . . . the “border” between Russia and former “Ukraine” has not been ratified by Russia after the break-up of the CCCP so in reality “Ukraine” does not have real established and ratified borders with Russia! This is a fact that should be used to either depose the Kiev nazi regime and make all of former “Ukraine” democratic, federated and pro-russian… Read more »
The map is debatable but the notion that Ukraine isn’t so much a state as a region is important for general peace and stability in the area.
The Germans found out about this during WW2. When they surged across the border into the USSR they were initially greeted as liberators by the people who lived there. As they went further east resistance stiffened (and it didn’t help that they squandered a golden opportunity by not pandering to the locals and their political leaders and aspirations but treating everyone equally as badly).
Anyway, the map of Ukraine regions (based on post WW1) was divided into three regions as west, center and east. You also have to recognize that on the western border there are Hungarians, Poles and others — its what comes from having a land border rather than a convenient sea.
What is it with you people digging up garbage history? And who are you to say that Ukraine isn’t a state? Ukraine became a fully defined, sovereign state in 1991 when the people voted overwhelmingly for independence. And it doesn’t need Russia or anyone else to ratify it.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Ukrainian_independence_referendum
A referendum on the Act of Declaration of Independence was held in Ukraine on 1 December 1991.[1] An overwhelming majority of 92.3% of voters approved the declaration of independence made by the Verkhovna Rada on 24 August 1991.
The Ukraine may be a state, but it’s not a nation. The Soviet Union itself was a state, you know …
“What is it with you people digging up garbage history?”
Everything else has proved useless to solve our problems.
Ya don’t like historical facts,
go Crimea River.
“this sort of shite”
So you don’t like the facts in your Link?
I agree. But the question is: Why hasn’t Putin bothered to liberate Novorossiya yet? We’re now a year and a half into his ‘SMO’ and all he’s really got to show for it thus far is Mariupol.
Yep, that’s the question– esp when only Russia has air power.
Only one answer – he doesn’t want to, it’s not the plan. The war is as fake as the pandemic and they want to keep it going forever, like the bloody pandemic
The Ukraine Crisis: What You Need to Know The Corbett Report 28 Feb 2022 https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/the-ukraine-crisis-what-you-need Corbett: Here are the more important questions: What does this mean? Why is it happening? Who is the aggressor here? And who is the bad guy? The answers to those questions . . . are perfectly straightforward if you’re unfortunate enough to get all of your news and information from the establishment media: Putin is a singularly evil psychopath, the Russian people have bloodlust, and this is all part of a larger gambit by the scheming Russians to form a Novorossiyan Empire. No, I got that impression from a pro Dugin site (see above) and from Putin’s blood-and-soil rantings. It was confirmed later by several rabid statements from Dmitry Medvedev – the loon in the attic at the Kremlin. By numerous ravings from Russian TV. By a host of social media clips of Russians attacking… Read more »
What we need is a global ‘War on War’ ….
That way we can put a stop to all wars by declaring war on them.
It is so simple and obvious if you seriously don’t think about it.
That’s what real communists (Marxist Leninists) fight for
fight war not wars
crass 1978
Nice one! I’m surprised George Carlin never thought of it.
If there were really Russian enlisted army and airforce members in a war in Ukraine they are doing a great job at camouflage.because I have not seen one Russian soldier in Ukraine since this media psyop all began in February 2022!!! You are all victims of imperialist media repetition. You have completely abandoned the fact that those tanks in Ukraine with a “Z” on them were not Russian tanks. Russia doesn’t use a “Z” on their equipment. It’s a psyop. Putin uses this fake news to his advantage. I do not support either fascist side
F OFF AZOV BOY TROLL
much as operation ISIS, the odd black flagged truck seen driving through town and the place was bombed to ruins. I wonder, will the displaced Donbassions etc, ever return home ?
Here’s an interesting article which, while it presents yet another layer of intrigue, exposes what has to be the most truly deranged case of the pot calling the kettle black in human history (can you say USA?).
US Targets Wagner Group Over Gold Smuggling in Africa, UAE Firm Sanctioned – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization
Oh dear, the new spin – NATO now faces two threats from the east and therefore needs more preparedness… money… weapons…
https://dumptheguardian.com/world/2023/jun/28/nato-ready-to-face-threat-from-moscow-or-minsk-says-alliance-head-after-wagner-group-chiefs-exile
This being literally days after Wagner meant Putin was “weakened”, “humiliated” etc.
Is there anything that could happen that would bring the Fraud and Western MSM generally to conclude we need less NATO?
I thought that NATO was busy trying to make the case that it needed an “IndoPacific” presence.
The problem with this sort of organization is that its impossible to kill. There are just too many good jobs and too much money at stake. So expect it to mold its ideology to suit its environment with existential threats and challenges everywhere.
(Incidentally, I read an article in our paper a while back that said that the pro-bono Ukraine lobbying effort was being underwritten by the aerospace corporations. I am so surprised!)
I’m sticking with political theater as a pretext for deploying the military into civilian areas, preparing for timed zones / climate lockdowns / CBDC / More Death Clot Jabs, AKA Martial Law / Military Dictatorship.
Puppets being puppeteered. Kabuki Theater.
Government isn’t going to save you from government.
Good govt is precisely what saves you from bad govt. But Klaus certainly welcomes your giving up the field of battle.
Refusing to join w your fellow citizens in creating govt by and for the people is abdication
I suggest you learn and understand the word DEMOCIDE.
History has proven over 1,000s time, over 1,000s of years, that government is the one organization that kills and harms more people than any other organization that society has dreamed up.
If you are expecting government to save you, then you will be disappointed.
If thinking that Klaus, working with governments and corporations, wants to save us, helps you feel better in some way, then too bad for you.
If you are looking for someone to save you, then start by looking in the mirror.
thomas , creating good govt is not expecting someone else to save you. It’s accepting the responsibility of citizenship. Lack of govt– the world over– has produced only gangs.
I’m sorry that you are not old enough to appreciate the US constitution and living under its remnants, as we still did in the 50s You allow the perfect which you imperfectly imagine to be the enemy of the good.
You run into some rough times when you have to actually DO something and you want to chuck the whole thing. You’re a quitter.
Quote from Howard Zinn : “Don’t depend on our leaders to do what needs to be done, because whenever the government has done anything to bring about change, it’s done so only because it’s been pushed and prodded by social movements, by ordinary people organizing.” … “Democracy doesn’t come from the top. It comes from the bottom. Democracy is not what governments do. It’s what people do…
I agree that good government starts with people that are substantially of good character and ethical and that have a “good” moral code.
When the people are amoral, of poor character, and unethical, then government will do as it pleases and be above the law.
The other part of this consideration, is that each of us only controls one person in this world, and that is ourselves.
This is why tyrants will not give power back to the people peacefully, because they know the vast majority of people are too cowardice to risk everything to throw off the chains of oppression.
We all have to make a choice.
There are two aspects to good government. There are the people running the government, AKA the guards of government. Then the form of government that is expected by the people versus the form of government actually run by the guards of government. Based on history, good government, is an oxymoron, because the natural progression of government is oppression and tyranny. Something we were explicitly warned about by our founding fathers. I whole heartily appreciate the Declaration of Independence, Constitution and Bill of Rights. There is nothing about my previous response that would exclude this position. Our form of government isn’t the problem here. It is the guards of our government that We the People have not held accountable through vigilance. Your expectation that there is a political solution to the near total corruption of the US government is naïve. The US government has been out of the control of WE… Read more »
We are here for a short time. Be the change you wish to see in the world. This is the only way to shift the course of history. Don’t forget to grow food.
Nukes may fall…they may.
And?
We have other things to do than walking around in long dirty boots in the field in windy wet cold weather putting potatoes in the soil while looking up in the sky from time to time after falling nukes.
There must be another way.
Am I the only person thinking that this fucking guy is deranged …?
WTF is this shit? How can anybody take this person seriously?
https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/a-strongly-worded-legal-threat-addressed?utm_source=cross-post&publication_id=520963&post_id=131314736&isFreemail=true&utm_campaign=795903&utm_medium=email
It’s obviously satire.
What is happening globally can be gleaned from history, a simple syllogism: every empire eventually faces the fate it is trying to avoid; everyone wants to avoid WWIII; so, we will get nuclear Armageddon. I have been silenced already in a number of sites. Anyone interested in reading my free e-book can click on the link below.
https://patternofhistory.wordpress.com/
Rolo spews a clever mixture of truth, half truth and lies to paint a black pill interpretation of everything the Russian government does. Depending on your perspective, the SMO can be spun as a disaster or as a sterling success. You can trust Lavrov or Rolo on any or all of the events. Take the retreat from Kiev for instance. In general, Lavrov highlights the support from 80 percent of the world population for the SMO’s measured military method (which has include tactical retreats for political or military reasons) and the overwhelming evidence that Russia is destroying the hated NATO monster by a method of slow strangulation, death by a million paper cuts, importantly, avoiding civilian massacres. You can think his innuendo about Shoigu rise and Tuvan background is believable, or that maybe it’s just part of his technique to win you, over by making you believe he has some… Read more »
The fact that we can even argue about whether or not Russia is winning the was is lot like how three years ago, when we were able to argue about whether or not there was a ‘plague‘ in progress: it suggests that we may have very different understandings of ‘victory’ or ‘success.’ Consider these very pertinent questions: https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/ukraine-what-would-victory-look-like
The conclusion of this talk that the war will just drag on
This is all down to incompetence and political infighting.
But isn’t the war dragging on just what they wont.
So they can make a lot of money selling all there aging weapons and restocking with new stuff as they plan and argue over reconstruction contracts.
With the level of debt that only war can deliver taking generations to pay off.
But it is all just incompetence.
Someone who does appear to grasp WTF has gone on.
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-ukrainian-war-the-wagner-uprising?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
“setting off in an armed column towards Moscow”
There used to be a joke Q&A called, What is the height of the ridiculous?
I think that quote was one of the answers.
The title of the article” WTF has …..”. Reminds me of the whispering campaign against Harold Wilson, U.K Prime Minister in the 60s and 70s, who at the Labour Party conference confronted the campaign to undermine him said ” their are those who ask what is going on, well, I can tell you what is going on, I am going on. ”
Not many years later, he resigned unexpectantly !
The forced resignations of The Two Harolds (Wilson and MacMillan) marked the acceleration of Great Britain’s postwar decline into the UK. They were not nearly as great as Attlee but they were socialist minded, the last British prime ministers to introduce measures that improved the lot of the people.
Thanks for introducing me to bigserge. Excellent piece, pragmatic, clear-headed and logical.
The pussyfooting by Putin and Shoigu is beginning to create a swelling of resentment among the Russian population as a whole. The ordinary Russian people were never that keen on the liberal elite based in Moscow and Petersburg. And it seems that the ‘fake war’ theory is beginning to gain traction among the ordinary Russian people around the world who are beginning to awake from the new order. The Russian people seem to be solidly behind Pregozin and the Wagner group where the populace of Rostov-On-Don, were cheering on the Wagner fighters. Putin and co. should be made aware that Special Military Operations (SMOs) are not won by minimal military input. But rather according to Colonel William Tecumseh Sherman, the US civil war leader: ‘’I am tired and sick of wars. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who had neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks… Read more »
Who would grasp Russia with the mind?
For her no yardstick was created:
Her soul is of a special kind,
By faith alone appreciated.
This short poem, which Tyutchev penned in 1866, is one that every Russian knows by heart. It is
hard to imagine a more comprehensive and clear definition of the essence of Russia or a more accurate key to the mysterious Russian soul. There is a widely held opinion that Russia does not belong either to Europe or Asia and that it has its own path.
Something many in the West don’t seem to grasp !
All in all, I wouldn’t idealise any exceptionalism. However, one can think of Russia and Germany before reunification as sharing the same features when contrasted with Western Europe: Germany was an economically backward, populous place with a poor soil, and all broken up into little states and on which warring nations fought and took and ceded pieces as spoils of war. Russian Empire was similarly a backward place with a majority of peasantry and to which the advances of faraway Western Europe couldn’t satisfactorily exploit; we have to take into consideration also the religious differences. However, after 1871 Germany had completely changed and by the end of the XIXth century it became an exporting industrial empire to the astonishment of the world; we can then speak of two (adjacent by 1900 already without even counting Austro-Hungary, what a luck!) empires which were complementary to each other, made to each other.… Read more »
“If Germany shows a sign of sovereignty and looks for the second time since 1922 to Russia as a serious and equal partner, France will soon after follow suit and the rest of Europe, and the whole F. US geopolitics falls to the ground. Europeans know this”.
The SMO and the disastrous backfiring sanctions (Europe’s Wiley Coyote Moment) are making this plainer by the day. Why else has Germany’s stupid Stoltz sacked green AnnaLiza?
The Coming Revolution, I usually dislike long posts, but yours was worth reading. Thanks.
A point of disagreement: I find it necessary currently to acknowledge that elites now find their powerbase within their state becoming progressively secondary to their powerbase within the global psychopathy. “State” actors increasingly act in support of the emerging psychopathy– and treasonously against its people.
Nowadays if we are to meaningfully discuss “State” action one must explicitly acknowledge that the actions are being taken by certain elites and the degree to which those elites have signed on to the psychopathy.
Thanks. Decisions made by governments through the apparatus of the State have economic motivations covering a large spectrum including aspects that might appear non-economic at first sight; therefore yes, they always emanate from capitalist classes who move the economies within these nations; themselves in turn compelled by economic realities. The State is the official voice, the executioner of the capitalist class, and the dispute-settler between the different classes in society. That’s elementary understanding from the communist, but not exclusively, point of view. Whether these interests are globally united under the same flag or whether they compete with each other, I agree with you. From my understanding of Capital, I can’t figure out all capitalist classes coming together under the same flag; there will always be competition between some factions coexisting with monopolising tendencies. Capitalism is a contradictory or zero-sum mouvement, in which wins somewhere means losses elsewhere. There is an… Read more »
“The state is [….] the executioner of the capitalist class” !
You Wish ?!
That was really a bad way to express myself 😀 . I meant the State executes, carry out or realises the interests of the ruling class.
Germany under Bismark, the driving force and genius behind the unification of the patchwork of principalities and states, introduced the Zollverien to protect its latent industries from foreign competition whilst the British Empire had decades before had opened up to free trade. The consequences of this was as Germany became economically more powerful the BE became weaker. The Berlin Conference of 1888 recognised this fact as Germany demanded ” its place in the Sun “. The Russian Empire had long recognised the need for economic and social reform but was handicapped by a number of historical factors ie the Mongel Yoke and the power of the landed gentry. Nevertheless, Sergei Witte, 1849-1915 Russian politician and administrator, instigated a number of very important key reforms ie the construction of the Trans-Siberian Railway, introduction of the gold standard, incentives to foreign investment in industrial projects. All of these led to a very… Read more »
Debates in pre-1917 Russia over whether the path to Communism could only be via capitalist economic and industrial development, or the country could jump over the capitalist (bourgeois) stage, were widespread…Lenin and the Bolsheviks were certain that Russia had to undergo capitalist economic stage of development…That’s why “Wall Street” backed them…Sutton’s “revelations” are startling only to those ignorant of the widespread debates amongst the Russian revolutionaries…
Lenin and his fellow Bolsheviks believed in an ideology of reconstruction of man, the new Soviet man. The Central bankers wanted to to destroy Czarist Russia partly because of hatred partly because it was an obstacle in their plan of destroying nations in order to achieve a Global government
Thanks for all the references specially the last one. But I have the same observation I made above to Penelope. In my view there is nothing strange about Capital rushing up to invest in Russia or Germany if there is profit to be made there. In fact it would be odd if it didn’t. WWII was the perfectly expected and necessary result of WWI and the Versailles Treaty in the same way a bully is the necessary result of a seriously troubled childhood. Newspapers and informed public in the 1920s right after the occupation of the Ruhr were already talking about a second world war being instigated by how the victors were acting against the losers. Lloyd George was saying that already in 1919. That the bankers financed Hitler is just the means he would use to carry his plans but the motive for his action were elsewhere in the… Read more »
It is not that it is unusual that foreign investors put capital into countries but the purpose. On the one hand it may be purely to make a return on it on the other hand it can, and has been, be a more sinister purpose. For example, the Central Bankers invested an enormous amount of capital in both Bolshevik Russia and Nazi Germany. Yet, both were ideological enemies of Capitalism. So the question is why ? The Hegelian dialect comes to mind antithesis + thesis = synthesis. WW2 was deliberating predicated from the moment the Central Bankers fostered it onto the German people. Moreover, the Second World War could not have begun in Europe without the Central Bankers financial and industrial assistance to the 3rd Reich. For example, the patents to develop oil from coal or the ability to process high octane fuel for fighter planes. Antony C Sutton and… Read more »
This is getting very interesting. “[T]he Central Bankers invested an enormous amount of capital in both Bolshevik Russia and Nazi Germany. Yet, both were ideological enemies of Capitalism. So the question is why?” Simply because Capital goes wherever it can reproduce itself, or wherever it is called. I know, the objection would be how on earth German National Socialism or Bolshevism would accept a loan from a representative of the power of Capital, their archenemy? Because in the real reality, you know, walking the streets and all that, things and people are not as mutually exclusive as the labels we put on them. Before one is a Nazi or a Bolshevik or a Capitalist or a religious man or woman, one is a human being with imperious needs that override intellectual or religious considerations. In other words, the production of the human and the mode thereof, has pre-eminence in… Read more »
“ Simply it goes where it can reproduce itself..” Professor Antony C Sutton in his well researched masterpiece, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, would beg to differ. Consequently, one barrier to mature understanding of recent history is the notion that all capitalists are the bitter and unswerving enemies of all Marxists and socialists. This erroneous idea originated with Karl Marx and was undoubtedly useful to his purposes. In fact, the idea is nonsense. There has been a continuing, albeit concealed, alliance between international political capitalists and international revolutionary socialists — to their mutual benefit. This alliance has gone unobserved largely because historians — with a few notable exceptions — have an unconscious Marxian bias and are thus locked into the impossibility of any such alliance existing. The open-minded reader should bear two clues in mind: monopoly capitalists are the bitter enemies of laissez-faire entrepreneurs; and, given the weaknesses of… Read more »
I haven’t quit this exchange. Just taking a break. 😉
Brianborou, I’m back I have no doubt that the facts so rigorously documented by Sutton took place; in fact, I made a long comment quoting him on this forum a couple of years ago. This being said, Sutton wrote in the middle of the Cold War during which anti-Stalinist and anti-Communist propaganda – vaguely conflated by the general public – was raging; and in which, of course, the official position towards Russian government “ideology”, i.e. its open stance against Capitalism and capitalist countries, and of its practical policies was of a vigorous and unanimous opposition, and so was the position within the capitalist class. So, upon discovering what he discovered, he was filled with indignation with the hypocrisy of some American capitalists who during the day spoke vehemently against Russian government and during the night struck business deals with it and so he wrote to expose this double-game. I… Read more »
The interpretation of these facts however leaves to be desired. Indeed, what does it mean that – paraphrasing – “Central Bankers creating Bolshevism and German National Socialism and then turning them against each other”? Does this question imply that they shouldn’t have done that? Why and Why no? For the first question, my understanding is that Central Bankers helped Hitler into Power because, Preparata himself admits as one possibility, they were certain he would rearm Germany, and, why not, they saw in him a bulwark against the Bolshevik “disease” as they called it. Well why not? It is, isn’t it, in the interest of Bankers to make profit and not see their business end because of Revolution. By the way, there was in Britain an atmosphere of an imminent Revolution, as was most Europe, at the occasion of Lloyd George wanting to send troops and arms to help Poland against… Read more »
True, the focus on the “not war” keeps attentions away from what’s happening to the economies of Western Europe…It’s like we’re being made to forget “It’s The Economy, Stupid !!”
Exactly, and it is noteworthy that we don’t hear much of the competition between the US and Western Europe, at least I don’t. It’s China, China, China…
Russia is an integral part of EurAsia. Has been for 1,000 years. “The West” was a 500 year old flourish of Atlantic countries — Portugal, Spain, France and U$UK; a spectacular flower that is dropping its petals. DeToquevillle predicted in 1820 — when Spain and Portugal had already faded but Britain and France were at the height of their bloom — that the 20th century would belong to the U$A but thereafter the pendulum would swing back Eastward.
The problem that Russia has had to confront was to confront 2 political, economical, social, cultural blocks between East and West. If you live in Russia for a length of time, it becomes very apparent. When the Mongol invasion attacked the protogenetic Russian State, occupying Kiev, it thwarted the European influences on the future Russian state which permeated many West and East European countries. It created a polarisation in the elites of Muscovy after roughly Frobisher arrived. Peter the Great, along with many other prominent Russians, recognised the threat would come from the West. The West was an impoverished area that used deceit, duplicity and the age old tactic of divide and conquer to plunder, murder and commit genocide to enrich a very small elite. A weed that strangles everything would be nearer the truth than the Shakspearian type metaphor of flowers regarding the West. Whether the pendulum swings depends… Read more »
There are those who believe they are God’s Chosen People…And The Americans have their Exceptionalism…And the Russians, they have a Special Soul that stands them apart from all others…Three variants of Exceptionalism…
The Americans ” exceptionalism” resulted in the destruction of the indigenous people and 54 coups, colour revolutions and false flag revolutions since WW2 not forgetting your mummy is your daddy wokeness.
All of the gentiles, if they choose wisely, are the chosen people.
The Russians stand between 2 continents and have a long history of invasions, occupations and suffering but have produced outstanding poets and writers.
“(There’s) some crazy things going on in Russia……”
James’ opening (Framing) comment…
In the contest between Those-In-The-Know, and The Speculators, The latter are winning – hands down !! All those i subscribe to are name-checked, and given The Thumbs Down…
But i aint gonna cancel my subscriptions, not yet…I wanna keep my delusions a little longer…And anyway, i dont do Cold Turkey…
As for those who judge Russia on the basis of how they think the “Not War’ should have been / is being conducted, i;m gonna remain deaf to them, anyway…
a very sober take on the priggy thing here: https://bigserge.substack.com/p/russo-ukrainian-war-the-wagner-uprising and also now and again you come across somethng that reminds you of the sheer scale of what we are witnessing and the direction they are attempting to take us, the detail we now know is at times overwhelming and when more of us grasp who truly resides at the head of this operation then we all become stronger as we realise that the requirement to defy is imperative concisely: the one they serve exists, it is real, evil personified and each and every one of them that servesd this has literaly sold their souls, more than that it is not just your freedom, your perceived wealth, hapiness and future they seek to take, it is nothing less than Your soul too could the stakes really be any higher? if you peruse the “whos who” contained in the article below… Read more »
I’ve tried to skim the first 30 minutes of this drivel, and all the fucking guy is doing is bragging about himself, without saying anything of substance. Everybody with a hole in their ass is producing a fucking video or podcast, flaunting their acumen and explaining what precisely was this shithead Prigozhin up to. Fuck these videos already! Who has time to listen to hours and hours of yapping about speculations? Put whatever you think on paper where it’s easy to look through. Be that as it may, let’s face it. This event is just about totally inconsequential. It would behoove everybody to stop splitting hairs, stop being fascinated with specific actors, stop myopically focusing on red herrings, and instead consider long-term ramifications. The world clearly is at a crossroads, a historical milestone. We have a technological revolution, an energy crisis, an environmental crisis (regardless of whether real or faux),… Read more »
Alexander Mercouris: Putin Strengthened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lzMJh0tBkE
The real alt media is literate in rituals this new lot couldn’t organize a piss up in a brewery (exactly how the MIC wants it).
Let me guess the Russia thing started on the highest point of the year in celebration of earth summer birth growth night and day is equal..SUMMER SOLSTICE.
The actual TV Russia invasion of Ukraine was 20 February 2022 (2222) Pluto returns in to the USA chart.
The inverters will do war kill death hate darkness fear etc etc on these dates.
Its measurable.
I never heard of Wagner until a couple months ago. If they were so pivotal in Syria from 2014 onward then why didn’t we here about Wagner from Vanessa Bealy years ago? Just because there is a Wikipedia page about them doesn’t mean it’s legit. I think it’s a psyop.. I think Wagner are a Ukrainian mIlitia. This entire “Russian Invasion” is fake news. If Russian military was really in Ukraine it would look nothing like the silly footage we have been watching. I think its all from the ongoing war in the east. Nothing new has happened except for the fake pandemic fizzling out in February 2022
Indeed, why was Ms Beeley so coy about mentioning Wagner? In fact, it would appear they made a significant contribution to the Russian war effort in Syria.
Well, that is what your being told. However, if it were true Ms Beeley would have mentioned Wagnrrrepeatedly. So, I think you are missing her point: was there really.a Wagner group in Syria?
https://rumble.com/v2wn5ei-mcduff-special-report-riley-waggaman-on-the-wagner-rebellion-june-27-2023.html
Another doubter.
One of OffG contributors mentioned about a year ago that the war in Ukraine was the first true Orwellian war, with the comment that this was something they would return to in another article. I have been thinking about that ever since, and have been waiting for that article. FROM the interview above in the audio, I have taken just one piece of information, that people in Russia, like us here, also think that their government is corrupt and working towards a one-world agenda. I don’t accept that the Wagner boss is somehow on the side of the people. I too was flummoxed by the media attention that Wagner was suddenly receiving, to much attention, that it seemed something was going to be done with the group, in the same way plot lines develop in a good book. You have an inkling of where the narrative may go. Its also… Read more »
“who is behind them, … New Atlas, Mercuriou’s, Ritter, Magreggor”
The Truth.
You and your bum mates.
Thank you for calling out the “Nazi” hoax. Is there a link to the substack article?
Unfortunately, I can’t read the substack because the text and background hurts my eyes (is it intentional?), but the following (below) is one of only two references to Kissinger (the other is behind the paywall). Putin is not a NATO agent. Rather, he is an agent of the central banking cartel (CBC). Kissinger is also an agent of the CBC – but higher up the pyramid than Putin. Virtually everyone within NATO was also controlled by the CBC. However, it’s been flipped. The Pence-Pompeo side controls the Pentagon (“there will be a smooth transition”) and it has all the files (Epstein etc). Hence, Kissinger has slowly been sliding toward the position of Pompeo. BTW: 1) The SMO was intended to be theatre. The tanks would descend on Kyiv; Biden made the evacuation offer to Zelensky; he was supposed to flee; but he flipped the script. 2) The really smart move… Read more »
Quotes the Hudson Institute, Mike Pence and Kissinger as fact. Lost in a dark wood indeed.
In this context, The Hudson Institute is just a venue for a presentation by Pompeo and is therefore irrelevant. Both Pompeo and Kissinger represent power – official, unofficial, covert. The powers represented by Pompeo and Kissinger are the two most dominant forces in the world today. What they say is important because they most likely have the power to make it fact – or at least cause a lot of destruction in the attempt.
How does one manage to come to twisted conclusions like that in our time…?
I could have written a comment like that 50 years ago, when Thatcher’s lies were all the rage…
She would have loved me.
Kissinger – the architect of the Multipolar World Order – is now supporting Ukraine’s admission to Nato. In doing so, he’s aligning with Pompeo. That FACT alone demands a “WTF!” analysis – and is a tad more significant than some sledgehammer wielding, Russian gangster throwing a strop! — https://thenewamerican.com/kissinger-putin-and-the-new-world-order Kissinger, Putin, and the “New World Order” by William F. Jasper January 9, 2009 Kissinger, never one to let a crisis got to waste, has been busy on an important new-world-order project in Russia with Vladimir Putin. Although it has gone virtually unreported in the U.S. media, Kissinger has been featured prominently in the Russian media during his many trips over the past decade to Moscow to meet with Putin and Yevgeny Primakov, the former KGB terror master for the Soviet Union in the Middle East. In 2007, Kissinger and Primakov were appointed by Putin to co-chair a bilateral “working group”… Read more »
If you grew up during the Cold War you’ve got used to the idea that everything about Russia being is going to be painted in a negative light. This mindset actually goes back much further than the Cold War as well — with a couple of exceptions around WW1 and WW2 Russia has always been the threat, the unpredictable ‘bad boy of Europe’. Its ingrained in the west even though the only time Russians have ended up in the west has been at the end of wars that had started with an invasion and ended with the destruction of the invaders. (e.g. Paris at the end of the Napoleonic War, Berlin at the end of WW2). Its a fact that NATO is openly hostile towards Russia. NATO was formed to confront the USSR post WW2 and like any large organization once the USSR went away it needed continuity so —… Read more »
The powers granted to the two political divisions of government (legislative:article I and executive article II.) come from the Constitution of the USA. The constitution assigns domestic domain powers to the congress, and foreign domain powers to the executive. Each division has some veto power over the actions and decisions of the other(but it takes a lot to make a veto stick). The third division of government, judicial, is designed to keep restrict the activities of each division of government to its domain and to resolve issues that come up between the domains. There are only two elected members of the executive(President and VP) and these two control the entire bureaucracy of the government. The Bureaucracy called the Department of State handles Foreign affairs.. Nearly everything the department of state does seems to be secret. Do how does the constitution expect USA governed American voters to monitor the activities of… Read more »
In a book written by a British soldier intellectual, Lieutenant-Colonel W.G.F. Jackson – yes they do exist! – he maps out all the invasions of Russia – all seven of them – who collectively failed miserably in an attempted conquest of the immense country. In the book ‘Seven Roads to Moscow’ this seems about the best historical record of what actually occurred. Starting with the Vikings under Rurik, this was the first invasion 862-1228 and the last. This was be followed by the Tartars the Mongols, and the Poles for starters. Then came Swedes under King Charles under XII who were soundly beaten at the battle of Poltava in 1709. Next came Napoleon of course, 1812 then Hidenburg in 1914, and finally Hitler in 1941. As Jackson surmised the military occupation and conquest of Russia which constituted such a vast area was beyond the capabilities of any European and even… Read more »
“Starting with the Vikings under Rurik, this was the first invasion 862-1228 and the last. This was be followed by the Tartars the Mongols, and the Poles for starters. Then came Swedes under King Charles under XII who were soundly beaten at the battle of Poltava in 1709. Next came Napoleon of course, 1812 then Hidenburg in 1914, and finally Hitler in 1941.”
No wonder General Montgomery said, If you want to win don’t ever march on Moscow.
But hope springs eternal in the human breast. In 2014 along comes NATZO with its rabidly anti-Jewish anti-Russian Ukro-Nazi Azov battalion led with Russian speaking Jewish comedian president as Commander in Chief. Anyone want to wager a bet on that crew?
i’ll wagner a bet, lol
As with everything else the media exaggerates the threat China poses. Think tank literature indicates China is a challenge but nothing else and neither its military capabilities nor its economic development poses anything near an existential threat to US. Besides, China was made bit by bit by Nixon, Kissinger and Brzezinski and the deliberate move continued long enough meaning China is a big country, advanced economy but nothing to be seriously worried about. The real economic rival to the US is Western Europe which *is* at comparable levels militarily and economically (well, up til recently at least) with the US. But it seems the topic is taboo … RE: Operation Barbarossa. The incompetence of Russian military maybe ascribed to the fact that until the very end, Stalin didn’t think Hitler would attack for it wasn’t clear if he was a rival to guard against but nothing more, or an enemy,… Read more »
I think that China is not a direct threat to anyone. Its problem to “the west” is that its catching. If you look at China’s history over the last couple of hundred years, from the time when Europe started taking an interest in it, its problem was that it was both highly productive and represented a huge market and source of raw materials. It was also militarily weak and divided so it was relatively easy prey for colonialism. This resulted in a very weak country that was actually saved from its natural fate — “an oversized version of the Philippines” — by the Japanese. Their barbarism and their threat to the west resulted in WW2 which, upon their defeat, led to a window of opportunity for the Chinese to rid themselves of colonialism through the foundation of the PRC. We left that country desolate and isolated surrounded by a hostile… Read more »
“The demon is a liar. He will lie to confuse us; but he will also mix lies with the truth to attack us. His attack is psychological, Damien. And powerful.”
[The Exorcist 1973]
They’re all liars and demons.
I wonder how long this dark age will last…
“They’re all liars and demons.”
Cheer up. When Pamino cries out in despair;
“Dann ist es alles heuchelei”
Pamino is already near to discovering that Zarastro is the Good Wizard, and the Queen of the Night is “an Evil Woman who means to deceive The People”.
“I am that negative spirit forever working for bad, and I feel frustrated because good keeps popping up” — Mephistopheles in Faust, by 18th century German evolutionist Wolfgang von Goethe.
A good point!
Did you know that Peter Blatty worked for Air Force intelligence in the Psychological Warfare Division as Policy Branch Chief? The Exorcist was used to get people to reassert their faith in Christianity and get them back to church as employment and inflation worsened
Yes.
But Blatty wrote a good story, with a lot of relevant food for thought, as well as being an excellent allegory concerning drugs and alcohol.
If he thought that he could get people back into the church with The Exorcist, he should have known better, although I would expect him to have moderate success with the Catholic denomination, where ritual and dogma seem to be the whole point…
I listen to get some clarity in this confusing issue… The first 22 minutes don’t explain anything at all. In fact, I am more confused than before.
I hope the rest is better.
22 minutes. that’s better than i could muster, because the podcast kept cutting out. to the point that i switched over to Scott Ritter’s take. one thing about Ritter, if you don’t know what “direct” is, just watch him. not sure what planet he hails from, but he sure knows how to pound home his message.
“Scott Ritter … not sure what planet he hails from, but he sure knows …”
Hails from Planet Truth. Ritter was one of the “12 Just Men” who resigned a top job rather than bolster the lies about WMD in Iraq. And he sure knows his business as a Chief Weapons Inspector.
Ritter reminds me of what a French politician said about Churchill during the wilderness days when Neville Chamberlain was in power:
“I do not know which is the more remarkable: that the British have such a useful man as Churchill; or that they choose not to use him.”
Maybe he really is a spook and that’s why he can’t be clear and concise.
The authoritarian lust of Alpha males. More addictive than drugs or sex. More deadly than a plague of cancer.