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Mental Health Round-Ups: The Next Phase of the Government’s War on Thought Crimes

John & Nisha Whitehead

“There are no dangerous thoughts; thinking itself is a dangerous activity.”
Hannah Arendt

Get ready for the next phase of the government’s war on thought crimes: mental health round-ups and involuntary detentions.

Under the guise of public health and safety, the government could use mental health care as a pretext for targeting and locking up dissidents, activists and anyone unfortunate enough to be placed on a government watch list.

If we don’t nip this in the bud, and soon, this will become yet another pretext by which government officials can violate the First and Fourth Amendments at will.

This is how it begins.

In communities across the nation, police are being empowered to forcibly detain individuals they believe might be mentally ill, based solely on their own judgment, even if those individuals pose no danger to others.

In New York City, for example, you could find yourself forcibly hospitalized for suspected mental illness if you carry firmly held beliefs not congruent with cultural ideas,” exhibit a “willingness to engage in meaningful discussion,” have “excessive fears of specific stimuli,” or refuse “voluntary treatment recommendations.”

While these programs are ostensibly aimed at getting the homeless off the streets, when combined with advances in mass surveillance technologies, artificial intelligence-powered programs that can track people by their biometrics and behavior, mental health sensor data (tracked by wearable data and monitored by government agencies such as HARPA), threat assessments, behavioral sensing warnings, precrime initiatives, red flag gun laws, and mental health first-aid programs aimed at training gatekeepers to identify who might pose a threat to public safety, they could well signal a tipping point in the government’s efforts to penalize those engaging in so-called “thought crimes.”

As the AP reports, federal officials are already looking into how to add “‘identifiable patient data,’ such as mental health, substance use and behavioral health information from group homes, shelters, jails, detox facilities and schools,” to its surveillance toolkit.

Make no mistake: these are the building blocks for an American gulag no less sinister than that of the gulags of the Cold War-era Soviet Union.

The word “gulag” refers to a labor or concentration camp where prisoners (oftentimes political prisoners or so-called “enemies of the state,” real or imagined) were imprisoned as punishment for their crimes against the state.

The gulag, according to historian Anne Applebaum, used as a form of “administrative exile—which required no trial and no sentencing procedure—was an ideal punishment not only for troublemakers as such, but also for political opponents of the regime.”

Totalitarian regimes such as the Soviet Union also declared dissidents mentally ill and consigned political prisoners to prisons disguised as psychiatric hospitals, where they could be isolated from the rest of society, their ideas discredited, and subjected to electric shocks, drugs and various medical procedures to break them physically and mentally.

In addition to declaring political dissidents mentally unsound, government officials in the Cold War-era Soviet Union also made use of an administrative process for dealing with individuals who were considered a bad influence on others or troublemakers. Author George Kennan describes a process in which:

The obnoxious person may not be guilty of any crime . . . but if, in the opinion of the local authorities, his presence in a particular place is “prejudicial to public order” or “incompatible with public tranquility,” he may be arrested without warrant, may be held from two weeks to two years in prison, and may then be removed by force to any other place within the limits of the empire and there be put under police surveillance for a period of from one to ten years.

Warrantless seizures, surveillance, indefinite detention, isolation, exile… sound familiar?

It should.

The age-old practice by which despotic regimes eliminate their critics or potential adversaries by making them disappear—or forcing them to flee—or exiling them literally or figuratively or virtually from their fellow citizens—is happening with increasing frequency in America.

Now, through the use of red flag lawsbehavioral threat assessments, and pre-crime policing prevention programs, the groundwork is being laid that would allow the government to weaponize the label of mental illness as a means of exiling those whistleblowers, dissidents and freedom fighters who refuse to march in lockstep with its dictates.

That the government is using the charge of mental illness as the means by which to immobilize (and disarm) its critics is diabolical. With one stroke of a magistrate’s pen, these individuals are declared mentally ill, locked away against their will, and stripped of their constitutional rights.

These developments are merely the realization of various U.S. government initiatives dating back to 2009, including one dubbed Operation Vigilant Eagle which calls for surveillance of military veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan, characterizing them as extremists and potential domestic terrorist threats because they may be “disgruntled, disillusioned or suffering from the psychological effects of war.”

Coupled with the report on “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment” issued by the Department of Homeland Security (curiously enough, a Soviet term), which broadly defines rightwing extremists as individuals and groups “that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely,” these tactics bode ill for anyone seen as opposing the government.

Thus, what began as a blueprint under the Bush administration has since become an operation manual for exiling those who challenge the government’s authority.

An important point to consider, however, is that the government is not merely targeting individuals who are voicing their discontent so much as it is locking up individuals trained in military warfare who are voicing feelings of discontent.

Under the guise of mental health treatment and with the complicity of government psychiatrists and law enforcement officials, these veterans are increasingly being portrayed as ticking time bombs in need of intervention.

For instance, the Justice Department launched a pilot program aimed at training SWAT teams to deal with confrontations involving highly trained and often heavily armed combat veterans.

One tactic being used to deal with so-called mentally ill suspects who also happen to be trained in modern warfareis through the use of civil commitment laws, found in all states and employed throughout American history to not only silence but cause dissidents to disappear.

For example, NSA officials attempted to label former employee Russ Tice, who was willing to testify in Congress about the NSA’s warrantless wiretapping program, as “mentally unbalanced” based upon two psychiatric evaluations ordered by his superiors.

NYPD Officer Adrian Schoolcraft had his home raided, and he was handcuffed to a gurney and taken into emergency custody for an alleged psychiatric episode. It was later discovered by way of an internal investigation that his superiors were retaliating against him for reporting police misconduct. Schoolcraft spent six days in the mental facility, and as a further indignity, was presented with a bill for $7,185 upon his release.

Marine Brandon Raub—a 9/11 truther—was arrested and detained in a psychiatric ward under Virginia’s civil commitment law based on posts he had made on his Facebook page that were critical of the government.

Each state has its own set of civil, or involuntary, commitment laws. These laws are extensions of two legal principlesparens patriae Parens patriae (Latin for “parent of the country”), which allows the government to intervene on behalf of citizens who cannot act in their own best interest, and police power, which requires a state to protect the interests of its citizens.

The fusion of these two principles, coupled with a shift towards a dangerousness standard, has resulted in a Nanny State mindset carried out with the militant force of the Police State.

The problem, of course, is that the diagnosis of mental illness, while a legitimate concern for some Americans, has over time become a convenient means by which the government and its corporate partners can penalize certain “unacceptable” social behaviors.

In fact, in recent years, we have witnessed the pathologizing of individuals who resist authority as suffering from oppositional defiant disorder (ODD), defined as “a pattern of disobedient, hostile, and defiant behavior toward authority figures.” Under such a definition, every activist of note throughout our history—from Mahatma Gandhi to Martin Luther King Jr.—could be classified as suffering from an ODD mental disorder.

Of course, this is all part of a larger trend in American governance whereby dissent is criminalized and pathologized, and dissenters are censored, silenced, declared unfit for society, labelled dangerous or extremist, or turned into outcasts and exiled.

Red flag gun laws (which authorize government officials to seize guns from individuals viewed as a danger to themselves or others), are a perfect example of this mindset at work and the ramifications of where this could lead.

As The Washington Post reports, these red flag gun laws “allow a family member, roommate, beau, law enforcement officer or any type of medical professional to file a petition [with a court] asking that a person’s home be temporarily cleared of firearms. It doesn’t require a mental-health diagnosis or an arrest.

With these red flag gun laws, the stated intention is to disarm individuals who are potential threats.

While in theory it appears perfectly reasonable to want to disarm individuals who are clearly suicidal and/or pose an “immediate danger” to themselves or others, where the problem arises is when you put the power to determine who is a potential danger in the hands of government agencies, the courts and the police.

Remember, this is the same government that uses the words “anti-government,” “extremist” and “terrorist” interchangeably.

This is the same government whose agents are spinning a sticky spider-web of threat assessments, behavioral sensing warnings, flagged “words,” and “suspicious” activity reports using automated eyes and ears, social media, behavior sensing software, and citizen spies to identify potential threats.

This is the same government that keeps re-upping the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which allows the military to detain American citizens with no access to friends, family or the courts if the government believes them to be a threat.

This is the same government that has a growing list—shared with fusion centers and law enforcement agencies—of ideologies, behaviors, affiliations and other characteristics that could flag someone as suspicious and result in their being labeled potential enemies of the state.

For instance, if you believe in and exercise your rights under the Constitution (namely, your right to speak freely, worship freely, associate with like-minded individuals who share your political views, criticize the government, own a weapon, demand a warrant before being questioned or searched, or any other activity viewed as potentially anti-government, racist, bigoted, anarchic or sovereign), you could be at the top of the government’s terrorism watch list.

Moreover, as a New York Times editorial warns, you may be an anti-government extremist (a.k.a. domestic terrorist) in the eyes of the police if you are afraid that the government is plotting to confiscate your firearms, if you believe the economy is about to collapse and the government will soon declare martial law, or if you display an unusual number of political and/or ideological bumper stickers on your car.

Let that sink in a moment.

Now consider the ramifications of giving police that kind of authority in order to preemptively neutralize a potential threat, and you’ll understand why some might view these mental health round-ups with trepidation.

No matter how well-meaning the politicians make these encroachments on our rights appear, in the right (or wrong) hands, benevolent plans can easily be put to malevolent purposes.

Even the most well-intentioned government law or program can be—and has been—perverted, corrupted and used to advance illegitimate purposes once profit and power are added to the equation.

The war on terror, the war on drugs, the war on illegal immigration, the war on COVID-19: all of these programs started out as legitimate responses to pressing concerns and have since become weapons of compliance and control in the government’s hands. For instance, the very same mass surveillance technologies that were supposedly so necessary to fight the spread of COVID-19 are now being used to stifle dissent, persecute activists, harass marginalized communities, and link people’s health information to other surveillance and law enforcement tools.

As I make clear in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People and in its fictional counterpart The Erik Blair Diaries, we are moving fast down that slippery slope to an authoritarian society in which the only opinions, ideas and speech expressed are the ones permitted by the government and its corporate cohorts.

We stand at a crossroads. As author Erich Fromm warned,

At this point in history, the capacity to doubt, to criticize and to disobey may be all that stands between a future for mankind and the end of civilization.”

Originally published by The Rutherford Institute
Constitutional attorney and author John W. Whitehead is founder and president of The Rutherford Institute. His book Battlefield America: The War on the American People (SelectBooks, 2015) is available online at www.amazon.com. Whitehead can be contacted at [email protected]

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Gerard
Gerard
Jul 30, 2023 10:05 AM

Bc, their ‘Dictate of Truth” needs protection from our freedom of speech…

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Jul 28, 2023 3:51 PM

More prophecy for the blind. If anti-whatever agents continue to repeat the same fucking prophecy. it will certainly become self-fulfilling…

Why not reverse these charming suggestions? Like: “warrant-less seizures, surveillance, indefinite detention, isolation, exile…” Ya know? For THE FUCKING PROTAGONISTS

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 28, 2023 9:43 AM

“What can we do about it?” asks Corbett. Well, you could stop shilling for psychiatry. That is, you could stop validating that pseudo-science with your regurgitation of THEIR concepts and language; e.g. “diagnosis”, “psychopathy”, etc. Afterall, the notion that language is a weapon is not a novel concept: The master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house. Corbett uses the psychiatric terminology in the first five minutes or so of the attached video. Then from around twenty minutes he pushes the notions of “empathy” and “psychopathy”. With regard to “empathy”, it was invented by Carl Rogers & co in the 1960s so as to justify and sell psychotherapy. It was a marketing device. The claim is that psychotherapy works (it doesn’t!) because of the empathic connection with the therapist (there is no such connection). I would have thought Corbett would have been able to see through that sort of crap.… Read more »

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Jul 28, 2023 10:20 AM

Are you saying mental illness doesn’t exist? Are you saying psychopathy isn’t a thing?

What’s your explanation for the people out there who hear non-existent voices, see non-existent entities, imagine they can fly or are invisible or God is telling them to kill people?

Because there are such people. Currently they are diagnosed with schizophrenia and treated with drugs intended to control or eliminate their hallucinations. A lot of the time they seem to work. People are glad to take them and be free of their symptoms.

What do you think should be done instead?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 28, 2023 10:47 AM

Please read Szasz’s pdf

https://www.szasz.com/Szasz50newpreface.pdf
https://www.szasz.com

Are you saying mental illness doesn’t exist?

More than that, I agree with Szasz that it is a logical impossibility for “mental illnesses” to exist. It is a logical impossibility because it’s a category error. In this context, “illness” is used as a medical term; i.e. it is a physical-realm concept. However, the “mind” is not a physical concept – it is “consciousness” – it is viewed “as if” it exists. Hence, it is a metaphysical concept. It is an oxymoron to combine the two concepts together.

 

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 30, 2023 10:43 PM

Lost, you cant deny the mental state can be in a so dysfunctional character that health is in jeopardy, here among psychopathy.
That this state not only can hurt other people’s health, but also their own health.

The brain direct your physical actions. Your manager is not part of the team or what?
I think you diffuse a due simple easy understandable term.

A problem lays only in the exploitation of the term to wrong use.
Physical illness.
Mental illness. Simple.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 31, 2023 5:33 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Mental states (thoughts etc) can affect bodily conditions – e.g. blushing. If a mental state (e.g. worry) causes a persistent adverse bodily condition (e.g. high blood pressure and associated effects) we call that a psychosomatic condition. If the term “mental illness” were to have any valid usage, it would be in this situation. That is, a mental cause resulting in an objectively measurable adverse bodily effect. However, we use the term “psychosomatic” instead. The diagnosis of a psychosomatic illness may involve a medical doctor. However, this involvement is limited to the elimination of the possibility of physical causes; and to the possible treatment of physical symptoms. Once it is determined that the cause is mental, the role of the doctor (as a doctor) in finding the solution is over. It’s over because: 1) the solution is psychological, spiritual, philosophical, social, etc. 2) there is no objective definition of “health”. For… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 31, 2023 5:40 AM

Szasz’s PDF (Part 2) The thesis I had put forward in The Myth of Mental Illness was not a fresh insight, much less a new discovery. It only seemed that way, and seems that way even more so today, because we have replaced the old religious-humanistic perspective on the tragic nature of life with a modern dehumanized pseudomedical perspective on it. The secularization of everyday life – and, with it, the medicalization of the soul and of suffering of all kinds – begins in late sixteenth century England. Shakespeare’s Macbeth (1611) is a harbinger. Overcome by guilt for her murderous deeds, Lady Macbeth “goes mad”: She feels agitated, is anxious, unable to eat, rest, or sleep. Her behavior disturbs Macbeth, who sends for a doctor to cure his wife. The doctor arrives and quickly recognizes the source of Lady Macbeth’s problem: Doctor [to Gentlewoman]: Go to, go to! You have… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 28, 2023 12:29 PM

I have hallucinations several times a week – typically when I’m asleep, sometimes when I’m partaking in a “chemical imbalance”, occasionally when I’m highly stressed, and far too rarely for no apparent reason whatsoever. During most periods of “normal” consciousness I assume that the images and voices are below the threshold of awareness – like stars during daylight – but it would be an error to assume they’re not there.

Howard
Howard
Jul 28, 2023 3:51 PM

As far as I can tell, the term psychiatry is synonymous with the term normative. And that kind of gives the thing away, doesn’t it?

One will never find anything taken by a particular society as normal acceptable behavior declared psychotic by the “profession” of psychiatry. It will always be that which deviates from the norm which earns the label psychotic.

Psychiatry is to normative values as criticism (as in literary criticism) is to the status quo. Both “professions” are there to uphold societal norms.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 30, 2023 10:56 PM
Reply to  Howard

Howard, you are doing sick people a very very bad favour. With academic do-gooders like you nobody need enemies :-).

Those who have a mental illness are extremely happy to get someone professional who oversees them frequently, because they are fighting an enormous battle inside their heads.

Human values
Human values
Jul 31, 2023 9:19 PM
Reply to  Howard

”As far as I can tell, the term psychiatry is synonymous with the term normative.”

Those terms are not synonyms. Psychiatry means healing of mind or soul, just like psychology means knowledge of mind or soul.

Normative means the ability to evaluate, to see what is good and what is not good.

A true healer heals. It is good. A false healer doesn’t heal. It is not good. A false healer harms, injures, makes more sick, even kills, or is totally useless.

When words are not used in their right meaning, but instead are used for lying and doing evil, it’s the evil that’s wrong, not the true meaning or right action.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 29, 2023 12:08 AM

R.D. Laing – The Politics of Experience (1967) From Chapter 5: The Schizophrenic Experience p.p. 100-01 There is no such “condition” as “schizophrenia”, but the label is a social fact and the social fact a political event. This political event, occurring in the civic order of society, imposes definitions and consequences on the labelled person. It is a social prescription that rationalizes a set of social actions whereby the labelled person is annexed by others, who are legally sanctioned, medically empowered, and morally obliged, to become responsible for the person labelled. The person labelled is inaugurated not only into a role, but into a career of patient, by the concerted action of a coalition (a “conspiracy”) of family, G.P., mental health officer, psychiatrists, nurses, psychiatric social workers, and often fellow patients. The “committed” person labelled as patient, and specifically as “schizophrenic”, is degraded from full existential and legal status as… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 29, 2023 3:08 AM

What do you think should be done instead?

I take a libertarian view. People can attach whatever labels they want to their maladies. They can drop whatever pills they want, or have crystals waved over them, or sit and meditate with their guru. However, I oppose coercion. And in this case that coercion is rationalised using a veil of pseudo-scientific medicalism.

Lupa
Lupa
Jul 31, 2023 7:06 AM

Or what about men who think they are women, women who think they are men, ppl who think they are “non-binary.” Seems like delusional mental illness to me.
BTW, I enjoy TSzasz’s writing.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 28, 2023 1:14 PM

Corbett (21:00):

The “psychopath” could murder someone in cold blood and not bat an eyelash about it.

Scare quotes added

Well, the “empath” could murder you while believing it was “for your own good”. And they can continue believing how “empathic” they were because they never have to face the reality of what they did. See for instance:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Against_Therapy
Against Therapy: Emotional Tyranny and the Myth of Psychological Healing is a 1988 book by author Jeffrey Moussaieff Masson, in which the author argues against the practice of psychotherapy.

STJOHNOFGRAFTON
STJOHNOFGRAFTON
Jul 28, 2023 7:00 AM

I think, therefore I am in prison for thought crime.

hotrod31
hotrod31
Jul 28, 2023 2:59 AM

… “the government’s war on thought crimes: mental health round-ups … ” Hhmmm! based purely on ‘The Science’ … I strongly suspect that there could be a good case made to round-up and institutionalize (as in funny-farms) most of the politicians and bureaucrats from the Five-Eyes countries, as most would conform to their own hypothetical descriptions.
It shouldn’t take an Einstein to work-out that – the leaders of the UK, USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand are definitely NOT like ‘other boys’ … Even the most charitable observations would classify these twats as, subservient pricks … embarrassingly so.

T.S.
T.S.
Jul 30, 2023 6:41 PM
Reply to  hotrod31

don’t forget the Ivans and the chicoms, they are as whacky as the western blockheads

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 27, 2023 8:38 PM

Has Vax Actually Impaired the Brains of Many?

Lots of people have been reporting this. Have you seen signs of people being less functional, more forgetful, worse drivers?

NTSB data confirms increase of motor fatalities in 2021 & continuing at the same increased rate.
https://amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/do-the-covid-vaccines-impair-your

George Mc
George Mc
Jul 27, 2023 7:46 PM

Update on Sinead O’Connor. Her death “is not being treated as suspicious”. And
“London Inner South Coroner’s Court said no medical cause of death was given and an autopsy will be conducted” but “(t)he results could take “several weeks””.

On checking the average time taken for an autopsy, I find,

“An autopsy usually takes 2-3 hours to perform and is often followed by laboratory tests. In general, the autopsy will not disfigure the body and it will be perfectly suitable for funeral viewing.”

Obviously Sinead’s autopsy must be a special case. Because …????? Well, perhaps her totally unsuspicious death involved the dismemberment of her body and it has to be carefully assembled? Or perhaps it was washed half way to the Bermuda Triangle? Or perhaps they had to transport it via Star Trek beaming technology that went wrong?

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jul 27, 2023 10:36 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Thank you Roman Candle brass Zipper🔍. Are cannon bangers still 3 coppers.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 28, 2023 11:15 PM
Reply to  Clive Williams

I see the resident assclown troll has made his daily pilgrimage from mom’s basement to his sticky keyboard…welfare check not arrive yet?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 30, 2023 11:35 PM
Reply to  George Mc

She was a Democrat, voted on Clintons, ended on their list.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 27, 2023 6:21 PM

Let criminals out on the streets to further Communism through Marxist methodology. Use emptied out prisons to house those mentioned in the article…am I just paranoid or is there a pattern here? Another win, win for the demonic forces….

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jul 27, 2023 10:51 PM
Reply to  Scoopais

That makes zero sense winning is something you’ll never understand.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 28, 2023 10:24 PM
Reply to  Clive Williams

Do you have an issue with reading comprehension? I clearly state the evil left is emptying out prisons to make room for conservatives. Thus, fulfilling two goals at once; Marxist methodology for societal destruction, and a place to imprison enemies of the state. Is that clear enough to you or shall I include a crayon drawing. Perhaps you are a troll who supports Communism?

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 27, 2023 6:17 PM

“The well-meaning and the bad people acted the same way”.

Penelope
Penelope
Jul 27, 2023 6:03 PM

forcibly hospitalized for “willingness to engage in meaningful discussion,” ??
Surely it’s “unwillingness”, no? Not that that’s any better.

DOA
DOA
Jul 27, 2023 5:25 PM

Seems that the song ‘Nothing Compares 2U”, is an unlucky song.
Originally performed by Prince, who died age 57 from a drug overdose when he was drug free (after he came out and told people to check out books from David icke and and his chemtrail video was the only prince allowed thing on you tube after he threaten them with legal action . The song was also Covered by Cris Cornell of Soundgarden fame, died age 52 by hanging himself. Now Sinead dies at 56, cause not yet announced, but she is double vacc’d and only recently finished a new album !!! which will make it to number 1.
Her son looks the spittin image of her, so she can be easily pensioned off somewhere and come back an comedian in alternative media and maybe work along side Alex @ infowhores and no one would be none the wiser.. ;0)

Jonathan K X
Jonathan K X
Jul 27, 2023 4:19 PM

The war on terror, the war on drugs, the war on illegal immigration, the war on COVID-19: all of these programs started out as legitimate responses to pressing concerns

Really now?

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 27, 2023 6:18 PM
Reply to  Jonathan K X

Correction…they were solutions for planned events…

Ort
Ort
Jul 27, 2023 7:04 PM
Reply to  Jonathan K X

After September 11, 2001, I coined the descriptive term “pernicious factoid(s)” for distorted, inaccurate, and otherwise false statements that are repeated casually, carelessly, or deliberately in support of a false narrative, e.g. “Oswald shot JFK.”

The term popped into my head when I read the unfortunate quoted sentence.

Also: one fragmented line (not even a proper sentence) from Bob Dylan’s 1965 song “Queen Jane Approximately” stuck deep in my mind when I first heard it in my teens, about a half-century ago, and became embedded in my crap detector system. It also came to mind when I read that cringeworthy statement: “Trying to prove that your conclusions should be more drastic“.  

Strictly speaking, I suppose it’s the assumptions that should be more drastic. 🤔

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jul 28, 2023 1:31 AM
Reply to  Ort

Fivety five years ago I was stood at Bobby Kennedy’s grave, I was 14yrs old. 1970 your media completely lost it imo.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 28, 2023 2:07 PM
Reply to  Clive Williams

Who stood you? Can you safely name them?

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 28, 2023 10:27 PM
Reply to  Clive Williams

You lie about as well as you troll…assclown

Iggytog
Iggytog
Jul 31, 2023 1:09 AM
Reply to  Ort

When you’re sick of all this repetition.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Jul 27, 2023 3:20 PM

Department of Justice (DOJ) drops campaign finance charge against crypto crook Samuel Bankman-Fried.

$8 billion loss of customer funds? Why would you even ask! Isn’t that……

Nothing to say. Just nothing.
https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/ftx-probing-gently-and-launching

And the State proposes mental wards… likely for dissidents?

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 27, 2023 3:01 PM

This has been a plan for a long time, and is linked to the transhumanist movement. Specifically the promotion of Gender Dysphoria as “normal” is to make actual normal, not normal. Moreover, how do you argue your sanity, when faced with the mortal threat of government, and their “experts”, asserting you are mentally ill? This is part and parcel of how tyrants operate, and is demonstrated in modern history many times. China, Russia, Germany, Turkey, etc. etc. etc., under the leadership of dictators has used all manner of mental illness as a pretext for destroying people that don’t go along. TPTB will redefine rogue, noncompliant, uncooperative, questioning, etc. etc. etc., as a mental illness. What we will all have to decide, is it worth the risk of submitting to the government’s kangaroo court, judged by one admiral, or better to go down in flames, and potentially carried by 6. We… Read more »

moneycircus
moneycircus
Jul 27, 2023 3:18 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

To be left alone is the peremptory denial: the nannys insist upon attention and obedience.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 27, 2023 6:28 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

At some point I will give them plenty of attention…

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 27, 2023 6:27 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Draw your own red lines in this battle. Draw your final red line in the war. Do not waver from your line. If you have done the right thing, you will be accepted into the kingdom of heaven. Nothing else matters.

Clive Williams
Clive Williams
Jul 28, 2023 3:02 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Alone means nothing, not a red cent of anything.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 28, 2023 4:55 PM
Reply to  Clive Williams

Being left alone isn’t the same as being alone. That you conflate the two is a you bias.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 30, 2023 11:46 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Wanted. We are over the present state, we are post now.

Human values
Human values
Jul 27, 2023 2:12 PM

Your government has already violated every human rights law and its own constitution.

Don’t fight with the government. Get rid of it.

As long as we fight with the government and its endless violations, there’s fighting with the government, so there’s government. And the government is the enemy of human rights and goodness. That should be obvious by now.

https://ourfreesociety.com/cult-of-state-worship/

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 27, 2023 2:54 PM
Reply to  Human values

To be clear and exact, it is the Guards of Government that need to go. Our form of government, when administered by people of good morals, character and ethics, works well to protect and serve the inalienable rights of the individual.

Like the Declaration of Independence says,

“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” 

Nastran
Nastran
Jul 28, 2023 5:38 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Missing is procedure/structure for removal when people of “good morals, character and ethics’ stop performing.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 28, 2023 4:54 PM
Reply to  Nastran

Tyrants do not return power back to the people peacefully. History has proven this many times over.

The procedure and structure for removal is the Second Amendment.

Human values
Human values
Jul 28, 2023 7:30 AM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

You didn’t listen to Larken Rose’s Message to the Voting Cattle?

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 28, 2023 4:53 PM
Reply to  Human values

Who said anything about voting our way out of tyranny?

Human values
Human values
Jul 28, 2023 11:54 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

You want to be governed. How are you going to choose the good people of good morals, character and ethics to do the governing?

Why do you think to be governed is a good thing?

Can you name any example when such a good government existed?

I think you’re just imagining things.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 29, 2023 11:37 AM
Reply to  Human values

We have heard that Larken message during a thousands years.
Try to admit thats the way life is and thats the way life was and thats the way life ever will be, and we cant do a shit about it and you know it.

Either you are a part of the bulldozer or you are a part of the highway………..LOL.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Jul 27, 2023 2:55 PM
Reply to  Human values

I used to fight the globalists – ridiculous as that may seem since they spend my annual income on half a bottle of Mouton Rothschild.But I indeed used to work for them until I got a signal to run.

The aim is to turn younger generations. The brainwashing that is school and university is not impenetrable. That is where we push.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 27, 2023 6:30 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

Well said…

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 27, 2023 6:29 PM
Reply to  Human values

Voting will not solve this…

lynch
lynch
Jul 28, 2023 6:26 PM
Reply to  Human values

Interesting link.

Howard
Howard
Jul 27, 2023 1:46 PM

What governments want is not the question or the concern. It’s only what they can do that matters. Do they really have the capacity – the means – to determine who is thinking what? Of course they wish to be able to and have been working feverishly to fulfill that wish; but they do not appear to have yet succeeded. I believe there have been attempts at studies showing that for every person who expresses a given position on some social/political/economic issue, there are anywhere from ten to a hundred who agree but say or write nothing. There are probably tens of millions of “citizens” who could conceivably be considered a threat to the government(s). Is it even remotely rational to assume the government can at a moment’s notice swoop down and take them all into custody. All the government can do is deal with the most vocal dissidents –… Read more »

DOA
DOA
Jul 27, 2023 4:50 PM
Reply to  Howard

Bottom line: if totalitarianism were easy, we wouldn’t even be discussing this – we’d all already be locked away in a dungeon.

I always enjoy reading your comments.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 29, 2023 11:48 AM
Reply to  DOA

Many people dont know they already live in a dungeon. They have self imprisoned themselves
.
This is the highest form of subversion among Intelligence Agencies.
Taking over Crimea without one single shot from a gun, or make people do something which goes directly against their own interest..

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 27, 2023 6:32 PM
Reply to  Howard

All they need to do is “swoop” on enough to set an example (J6). The masses you mention will more or less fall in line through fear. Those who don’t will become further examples…and so the cycle continues.

Freecus
Freecus
Jul 27, 2023 1:43 PM

[…]the government

These two words are repeated over & over in this article. We don’t have governments, we have corporations, just look them up on Dun & Bradstreet.
I appreciate the author’s intention but they are living in a different story.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 27, 2023 3:02 PM
Reply to  Freecus

This is why I regularly refer to it as “Government Corporation”.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 27, 2023 6:35 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

What difference does it make what they are called or defined as? The only relevance is how we bring them down.

Thomas Frey
Thomas Frey
Jul 28, 2023 4:59 PM
Reply to  Scoopais

If a person cannot articulate to another person, the dire straits we find ourselves in, in understandable terms, that communicate the mutation, then we will only give the enemy more time to annihilate us.

The words we use matter, when we are trying to break the “spelling” of the “broadcast”.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 28, 2023 10:30 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

Yes, I agree…but I’m just pointing out, let’s not get too focused on trying to define them, and more focused on trying to erradicate them.

dom irritant
dom irritant
Jul 27, 2023 8:34 PM
Reply to  Thomas Frey

govern- control
ment-mind
corp-dead body
oration-speak
mind control dead speak

moneycircus
moneycircus
Jul 27, 2023 11:04 AM

Love the Whiteheads but it is obvious this is on the way. The legislation was put in place in the early days of the Covid response, not least the fusion of police and social services. Drawing special attention to the repressive potential of the psych ward is like calling a plumber or a doctor and being surprised at the spanners and drugs. We know perfectly well the tools by which dictatorships rule. An authoritarian regime is already a reality. It is not a plan.It has to be stopped now. Good interviews to be found with Dr Joseph Mercola and G Edward Griffin over at Infowars (I don’t give a poo who interviews them. And isn’t writing about BBC and UFOs over here just a variation on the official narrative or slow-walking the debate.) I appreciate that Off-G must to some extent always be yoked as a mirror to The G.… Read more »

underground poet
underground poet
Jul 27, 2023 11:21 AM
Reply to  moneycircus

The military has always been an authoritarian institution, while politics held the administrative role, easier to confuse the population.

They are much like todays democrats, collectively they can run a life, individually they can’t do anything.

Jan J
Jan J
Jul 27, 2023 10:13 AM

Already happening in Norway, «political psychiatry» at work: man concerned with vaccine ill effects (and particularly batch variation) forced admission to psychiatric care after anonymous «concern call»:

https://steigan.no/2023/07/pagaende-politisk-psykiatri-i-stavanger/

it’s in Norwegian, but can be read with a translation program.

Totalni Magor
Totalni Magor
Jul 27, 2023 11:23 AM
Reply to  Jan J

In contrast, there is a Czech doctor who automatically entered a self-injury disorder diagnosis in the file of any idiotic patient who showed up in her office wearing a mask or respirator during convid.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Jul 27, 2023 11:32 AM
Reply to  Totalni Magor

Do you have a source for that? Interesting. A2

Totalni Magor
Totalni Magor
Jul 27, 2023 12:10 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Unfortunately not. I’d venture to say that there are quite a few doctors who think the same, all over the place. The difference might be that Czechs aged, say, 50 years or so (but younger and older ones too) have experienced the collapse of the former totalitarian regime (which was probably less shitty than what’s in the pipeline now) a few decades ago, are pretty happy about having had more freedom now, and are much more ready to defend it, and do so, than, say, people in Canada who don’t even understand what the fuck is going on – generally speaking; there are some that do.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 27, 2023 12:18 PM
Reply to  Totalni Magor

I know some in Russia and China talk about a stupidity line on Northern Europe from south Holland, Belgium and North Germany and Poland and up.

You know Sweden is also in with gender bs changing their language him and her into one neutral hen (in swedish han och henna to hen).

When you change language in its basic you cant function with normal rational people.

Bryan
Bryan
Jul 27, 2023 9:42 AM

It is not the ‘government’: it’s the grammar. It’s not the ‘economy’: it’s the language, stupid! Whether it bothers anyone else or not: it bothers me that there is some pretty egregious out of context quoting going on. Today it is Arendt, yesterday was Barthes: who together could be summarised as saying “It’s the fucking language that is totalitarian or fascist.” Not a bit of it – all of it….Yes, even this bit. It’s in the grammar and the logic of language to rationalise as truth-bearing and moralise as duty-bearing: the only options are true or false; right or wrong; and eventually good and evil are in the logical grammar or “logogrammar.” What is more, the analysis was done and then forgotten: so now we blame the ‘government,’ ‘economy,’ ‘corporations’, ‘psychiatry’ for logogrammatic separation and nomological determinism. The underlying structural dualism goes like this: The Principle of Identity states that… Read more »

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 27, 2023 1:58 PM
Reply to  Bryan

If you maintain your born instinct to adapt to the right thing you can get along without language, but if you use language its important to follow basic gramma.

In ancient times it was Elite tools to change language only in war times as to stir up the population to make them believe the enemy was monster.
The problem when you change language is you cant get back, only next or second generation can start again. Pandoras box is open for all kinds of evil.

So we have the problem especially in West that 2 generations have grown up with soft ideological manipulated language, and we cant get rid of these confused people who now sits in key positions.

Bryan
Bryan
Jul 28, 2023 9:57 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

The grammar or logical grammar we use today was shaped by literally 4 or 5 people; broadly Plato-Augustine and Aristotle-Aquinas. The grammar presented above is purely Aristotelian and had not changes in 2.5K. We do not have “born instinct” as such as the brain is adapted to life by living (as per Piaget, Vygotsky) of which the most significant acquisition is language. Whatever was innate is overwritten by logical grammar as “logogrammar.” As you can see: this development has been millennial, not generational. Nietzsche pointed all this out before 1880. It is a simple matter of “self-organisation” — which is nothing more than the grammatical organisation applied to itself — which will tend towards the ‘One’; the only permissible interpretation. Obviously, I cannot go into detail but numerous people have spent their lives exposing the totalitarianism inherent in the grammar. For Barthes: the structure of society boils down to “assertion”… Read more »

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 29, 2023 5:57 PM
Reply to  Bryan

I dont fully agree in. “Mother tongue and language is fascist”??? When I say natives without language abilities can do without, it is their holistic access to their natural environment and traditions. They can function alone per their ancient learning and tradition. But if we learn language, there is in basic grammar, as you say, a way of organising society. I and you form believe is child language, third person neutral know is adult language. And, I also understand your claim of ancient totalitarian roots in the language, for example “you should learn to ‘marketing and’ sell yourself” (to a job whatever). I imagine this is from the colonial slavery time. But we know what prevails in language. To be true and precise. A precise language is cream for ears like poetry. My ref Confucius. “Above all it is essential to refer to things by their correct names. If things… Read more »

Howard
Howard
Jul 27, 2023 3:26 PM
Reply to  Bryan

There is another use for language which has little to do with communication or even thinking; and it needs no grammar.

That would be place names – geographical locations; and names identifying various things, issues, fields of study. I would even go so far as to say this function of words is far more important than any other function. In a way, it comes closer to being a universal language than any kind of formal ordering of language, notwithstanding different names for the same location.

As such, similarities are intriguing. For instance, the city Cochabamba in Bolivia; and Byumba in Rwanda (plus several towns in Northern Rwanda). The “mba” suffix is probably coincidental – but could represent something more compelling.

At any rate, individual words are even more interesting than language itself.

Bryan
Bryan
Jul 28, 2023 10:20 AM
Reply to  Howard

Placenames aside: the function of words is to order as order words (mot d’ordre). Words do not function on their own and only acquire meaning — as truth-bearing — in sentences or sequences of sentences. After Barthes: Hjelmslev, Halliday et al begin to consider language as a total or global. The language is what the language does which is to construct civilisation. None of this is remotely reducible to phonemes, graphemes, or morphemes.

If we forego to inherited “truth-logic” and also the old “identity-logic” the language can be used for pragmatic purposes: as per Nietzsche, James, Dewey, Pierce et al. Until then: “The medium is the message” and all semantics are morally predetermined.

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 27, 2023 9:36 AM

AI is not the problem, it’s IO: Information Overload.
Useless, trivial tripe clogging people’s ‘neural pathways’ and creating internal havoc.

JoeC
JoeC
Jul 27, 2023 9:35 AM

Soon it will be illegal to claim that man never landed on the moon so we better believe it.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 31, 2023 12:04 AM
Reply to  JoeC

As we have photo proof Werner von Braun walked on the moon surface with the US Astronaut Space team, any public claim to the contrary is defaming your mother and your country who fed you up to who you are today.
This is not something we believe, but something we actually know from very reliable high level VIP sources!

Chuka
Chuka
Jul 27, 2023 8:45 AM

Knock, knock. -Who’s there? –The government order signed February 2023, for the 2023-2027 programme, for 185 billion rubles, of the most key Russian Science Institute. …Within the framework of the budget allocations provided for by the Federal Law “On the Federal Budget for 2023 and for the planning period of 2024 and 2025”, the following will be carried out:…(page 49)fundamental and applied research in the field of social sciences and humanities and technologies based on natural science methods and tools, including for solving problems of neurocriminalism;…(50)new experimental methods for studying the systems of social consciousness of a person and target groups;..(51)a comprehensive method of conducting neurocognitive research in order to diagnose a person with information hidden by him for solving problems of criminology;–models of social consciousness of target social groups (age, professional, political) in order to gain new knowledge about the social consciousness of a person and groups of people,… Read more »

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 27, 2023 11:33 AM
Reply to  Chuka

Knock! knock!
“WHO’s here!
“And you’ll do what you’re fucking told !!”

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 27, 2023 2:08 PM
Reply to  Chuka

Social engineering again again, adapted to AI……..and we only use AI as a tool.

It is a if old bad traditions never die. Political Sovjet dissidents back to Gulag camps and psychiatric treatments.

NickM
NickM
Jul 27, 2023 8:08 AM

“If we don’t nip this in the bud,” How do “we” nip the regime’s legistlation “in the bud” ? The rights of English people have been steadily eroded over the centuries. According to GKC & Hilaire Belloc it began with Henry 7 and the Tudor reign of Terror. Henry 7 paid off the noble backers for his coup which deposed Richard 3 by gifts of stolen royal property. Henry 8 took advantage of the Protestant Revolution to pay off his own noble backers through gifts of stolen church property. With no more Royal or Church property left to steal, Parliament under Cromwell and Dutch Billy with their businessman backers began the “modern” practice of stealing common property through Land Enclosures and Privatization. “You will own nothing and be happy. Or else, ve haff vays to make you happy”. — Klaus the Schwab. Except for a brief period of Socialism under… Read more »

Totalni Magor
Totalni Magor
Jul 27, 2023 11:25 AM
Reply to  NickM

Gotta refresh the tree of liberty, mahn. Whining that things have been steadily eroding will do shit.

NickM
NickM
Jul 27, 2023 4:01 PM
Reply to  Totalni Magor

Yes, we got to refresh the tree of Liberty. But that needs much, much more than a bucketfull of blood: it means continual hard work of the most unpleasant kind: attending meetings, discussing agenda, fulfilling plans, keeping notes, weeding out the bullies and bullying the politicians.

Not much time for Telly and Trips, let alone for the day job.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 28, 2023 10:34 PM
Reply to  NickM

Not to mention trying to negotiate all the “wonders” of Bidenomics…

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 28, 2023 10:33 PM
Reply to  NickM

How do we nip them in the bud? They call it an assault rifle…I call it an AR-15

Willem
Willem
Jul 27, 2023 7:46 AM

Everyone who works in a computer like environment knows that the office is the mental facility. But most live there voluntarily and actually need the managers bossing around and telling them what to do and what not. Saves them from the burden to take responsibility. That plus that is expected from them to behave like mental patients. The few truly sane exceptions are tolerated in the mental warden by the patients if they are able to entertain them (take over the responsibility from the managers) and surely get a hell of a time by the management up to the necessary lobotomy if needed, ah you know the book. The truly sick ones stick around in the hope that one day they can become a warden (get a management function) after which they will get their revenge on the remaining patients by increasing their bossing around (now it’s their time) They… Read more »

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 27, 2023 8:25 AM
Reply to  Willem

Find a job you enjoy in a company you like. Easier said than done, but gotta keep believing it’s possible, I suppose. It worked for me, after years of dreary jobs.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 28, 2023 10:35 PM
Reply to  ZenPriest

Self-emplyment…if you can pull it off in today’s “American dream”

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Jul 27, 2023 9:13 AM
Reply to  Willem

For a child or a yound person my advice is pretty simple: Learn some practical skills, whatever they are, (for me personally, that’s building and music) prepare to be adaptable, to work damn hard and to get your hands dirty and go and work for yourself. Learn to say no to people and tell people to fuck off when you need to. Don’t accept orders from others, keep busy with real world things. Always be prepared to learn and ask questions. Don’t be greedy or aquisitive. Don’t be jealous of what others have and only buy what you can actually afford. Learn how to do your own accounts and how to fly largely under the radar. Revel in saying “fuck you”, going your own way and not fitting in. Most importantly, ignore most of what they tell you at school. Learning how to read, write and do maths is a… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 27, 2023 9:44 AM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

There is no point telling off insane or brainwashed people. Neither would that be flying under the radar.

Associate with and help people who contribute to society, e.g., producing food without destruction.

Bob the Hod
Bob the Hod
Jul 27, 2023 10:35 AM
Reply to  mgeo

I’m not talking about the office environment described by Willem. I’m talking about how to avoid ever having to go into that environment, and how to successfully extricate yourself from it if it ever dawns on you how much better life could be away from that world. There is every point in telling people to go and fuck themselves when they start trying to boss you about. When you are your own boss that doesn’t really have any negative consequences either. It works well for me. I’m an easy going person and easy to get along with. I have a great relationship with most of the people who I do work for and I get repeat custom often. But I don’t take shit from anybody. Why should I? In terms of flying under the radar, the main things there are, not being a flash Harry in what you buy, making… Read more »

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 28, 2023 11:07 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Great Post Bob! I’m quite sure judging by what you wrote that you and you children also have your spiritual house in order. Being right with God and being prepared to enter the kingdom of heaven are paramount. I don’t believe any issue on this earth is more important.

Lulu
Lulu
Jul 27, 2023 5:50 PM
Reply to  Bob the Hod

Absolutely sound advice! Excellent points, obviously learned from first hand experience.

May Hem
May Hem
Jul 27, 2023 7:40 AM

Back in the good old days, a man (of means) could get rid of his wife by claiming she was ‘mad’. She was sent to a lunatic asylum or imprisoned in the attic.

The thugary is using this same old method no matter what fancy words are applied to it.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 27, 2023 2:19 PM
Reply to  May Hem

But many wives were and are insane and hysteric. Thats why the law was made. If women dont get it at least 1-2 times a week they go crazy, and a man has to work.
How should a productive man else get rid of an insane wife in a human way if not by law?

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 28, 2023 11:10 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Using your own logic, try screwing her to death. Should provide a great time for both parties…who knows, a renewed love is even possible…

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 29, 2023 6:00 PM
Reply to  Scoopais

I can see you have never tried to screw a man eater. You are dead long before they even get exhausted.

MyNameIsNobody
MyNameIsNobody
Jul 29, 2023 5:26 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Back then if a woman wanted ‘it'(even within marriage)she was also considered insane plus immoral,so your logic fails.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 29, 2023 10:33 PM
Reply to  MyNameIsNobody

It was more hidden at that time. If the act was discovered it was directly to the church. A man had to take care not to be trapped,

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 28, 2023 11:08 PM
Reply to  May Hem

Great point! History does repeat itself in so many ways.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Jul 27, 2023 7:38 AM

Thank you for providing us non-US-citizens with a veritable library of factual proof that your nation does not represent freedom and democracy and hence its warmongering and economic imperialism abroad can be badged correctly as overseas tyranny, rather than ‘innovation and healthy capitalism’. The USA has already gone far beyond credible behaviour as a friendly partner, even within NATO allies and it is approaching a point when huge numbers of Europeans are going to tell the USA to go home, stay home and do not expect to be invited back. If of course the response of the USA is to fund violent conquistadors to try and invade Europe, then it will have proved to the world what a pile of disgusting, despicable evil it actually is. We all hope that that won’t be the case, but in a court of law, when having been found guilty, prior misdemeanours can be… Read more »

arielazalexander
arielazalexander
Jul 27, 2023 6:15 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Yes, lines are being/have been crossed, revealing exactly who and what the architects are at the various corporate management levels, although not who the actual ‘owners’ are. We know a certain amount about the front men and women. Even about the suspected ‘owners.’ I have always been adamant that money I$ the root of (all…optional) EVIL. People would say ‘No, No’ it’s all about how you use it. These people do not realise that MONEY aka ‘Current-sea,’ is the counterfeit of WATER, the universal solvent, wears away mountains as well as the integrity of men and women. . They do not realise or recall for example, Nathan Rothchild’s great coup after the Battle of Waterloo where he deliberately crashed the London Stock Market, and then bought it up for pennies on the dollar. Ended up with the right to print money particularly through Fractional Reserve Banking. aka ‘money out of… Read more »

arielazalexander
arielazalexander
Jul 27, 2023 6:46 PM
arielazalexander
arielazalexander
Jul 27, 2023 7:48 PM

And just for laughs, cause we need all we can get, and not just irony. And share this 42 second gem
“Bullocks and Beans” – YouTube

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jul 28, 2023 2:24 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Indeed, Rhys. Well put. Just one thing, I’m pretty sure murder is a felony.

Scoopais
Scoopais
Jul 28, 2023 11:12 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

As a US born citizen, I have no problem telling you that the global cabal that runs this country is utterly corrupt and has been for a very long time They in no way represents me or what I believe.

Rasta|Blaster
Rasta|Blaster
Jul 27, 2023 7:36 AM

Psychiatry as a “science” is even more dubious than virology. It’s has always been a tool of social control; not so recently It has also become a main channel of psychotropic drugs distribution among minors. I would strongly recommend writings of Thomas Szasz.

best regards from a Polish forest.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jul 27, 2023 6:08 AM

Psychiatry and Public Health is a B-movie monster which will swallow humanity. Being opposed to the medical fascism is in itself a sure sign of “mental illness”. If you disagree, you have “poor insight” into your condition – which is another sign of “mental illness”. Don’t say you weren’t warned!

Thomas Szasz – New Preface to The Myth of Mental Illness (2010)

Formerly, when Church and State were allied, people accepted theological justifications for state-sanctioned coercion. Today, when Medicine and the State are allied, people accept therapeutic justifications for state-sanctioned coercion. This is how, some two hundred years ago, psychiatry became an arm of the coercive apparatus of the state. And this is why today all of medicine threatens to become transformed from personal therapy into political tyranny.

https://www.szasz.com/Szasz50newpreface.pdf
https://www.szasz.com

Mish
Mish
Jul 27, 2023 6:46 AM

Thankyou for the link. I had not come across Szasz, his argument is profound.

ZenPriest
ZenPriest
Jul 27, 2023 8:27 AM

Everything is backwards now. Just as Satan intended. The NHS is the National Harm Service. A sure sign of mental health is a strong distrust and aversion to all worldly authorities. Trust in God alone.

Edward Bernaysauce
Edward Bernaysauce
Jul 27, 2023 4:29 AM

“…all of these programs started out as ‘legitimate’ responses to pressing concerns…”
hmmm🤔- I see what you did there 😉 !

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 27, 2023 12:56 AM

I dont buy that article. Havent we seen pricely a lot of organised riots of destabilisation groups with doubtful purposes BLM, Extinct Rebellion lose their minds in London, Soro’s backed and paid rioters.

Saying factual there is groups within the frame of the described disturbance of public order which need to be “neutralised” in some way.
Many Veterans are suicidal, off course the public will have to keep an extra eye on them.

I have seen 3-4 videos of US Sheriffs who had a precise eye on what was justified to maintain public order and pull out the worst perverts before it spreads.

So….we have to give those who perform these duties a room they need. Its too easy to sit in armchair crying justice for heavy criminals who was rightfully shot in an emergency situation or all the apologize bs BLM made. The public is extremely hypocritical.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 27, 2023 12:27 AM

You’ve forgotten the third party that is so compliant towards the fascist states all over the world when it comes to delegitimising and removing / punishing dissidents: Psychologists and psychiatrists! Ten years ago, when such writings were still to be found in the MS media and in medical journals, Bruce Levine wrote in “Why Anti-Authoritarians are Diagnosed as Mentally Ill” “Gaining acceptance into graduate school or medical school and achieving a PhD or MD and becoming a psychologist or psychiatrist means jumping through many hoops, all of which require much behavioral and attentional compliance to authorities, even to those authorities that one lacks respect for. The selection and socialization of mental health professionals tends to breed out many anti-authoritarians. … I have found that most psychologists, psychiatrists, and other mental health professionals are not only extraordinarily compliant with authorities but also unaware of the magnitude of their obedience.” The whole article is… Read more »

Johnny
Johnny
Jul 27, 2023 1:27 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

The Numbed leading the Dumbed.

rossgopicotrain
rossgopicotrain
Jul 27, 2023 3:12 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Excellent comment; and one that often gets bypassed when assessing the reasons for the miasmic muck we call modern-day living. Thanks for bringing it to everyone’s – at least, here at OG – attention. RGB-Y3 out!!!

les online
les online
Jul 27, 2023 4:18 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

“James Corbett and the Weaponization of Psychology” , the video. will doubtless be posted here, for your viewing, in a day or two…Stay tuned…

les online
les online
Jul 27, 2023 4:26 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

“Anti-authoritarian”. is not a clinical category or condition or diagnosis…Not in my book…
It’s a political label….And we best not get into the habit of applying it…

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 29, 2023 12:15 AM
Reply to  les online

Yea, I see your point. However, I wear the label ‘anti-authoritarian’ (pretty much same as anti-fascist) proudly.

Edwige
Edwige
Jul 27, 2023 8:34 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Not a single doctor nor nurse ever blew the whistle on MK Ultra – indeed the likes of Ewen Cameron and Jolyeon ‘Jolly’ West rose to the top pf their profession.

As Dave McGowan wrote in ‘Programmed to Kill’, the mainstream narrative requires us to believe that cult leaders like Manson, Koresh and Jim Jones could mind control groups of people but U.S. (and other) government agencies with all their resources couldn’t. It’s patent nonsense.

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 27, 2023 9:53 AM
Reply to  Edwige

MK Ultra? What about Guantanamo Bay and the other secret or outsourced prisons?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jul 27, 2023 2:30 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Guantanamo were/is a prison for moslem terrorists who were in possession of bone knives, were against usury, and were thinking day and night on how to do most harm to America and the American people with WMD’s.

Why? Because they envy we have dollares and they have not.

Human values
Human values
Jul 27, 2023 1:52 PM
Reply to  Edwige

The state is the governmental organization that has declared itself above people. The state governs the people. The state has a leader, military, organization of violence, coercion, and it forces the people into obedience with violence. The state operates as a cult. It’s formed in a pyramid shape like all cults. The state is harmful for people like all cults. The state is insane like cults are.

The leader of the state is seen as a god, because he can decide who is killed and who will live. He decides whether to make war or not. He decides to make war, since war gives him power and makes his fellows wealthy.

The state is always at war with the people. The state wants you dead, so that it can live.

https://www.godarchy.org/2021/02/20/the-state-is-a-death-cult-and-war-its-most-holy-sacrament/

mgeo
mgeo
Jul 28, 2023 6:14 AM
Reply to  Human values

The leader redirects public wealth to protect and even deify himself, and to punish or terrorise critics.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jul 27, 2023 10:50 PM
Reply to  Edwige

And the medical-industrial complex has successfully insinuated itself into schools, with vaccinations doled out there, even back in my day. Nowadays even teachers can “diagnose” mental health issues and have the kids put on drugs.

mjh
mjh
Jul 27, 2023 12:19 AM

Full of great points, and of course the danger isn’t just in the US but in much of the world, including where I live (NZ). The irony is that millions of people have been taught and convinced already to see themselves as suffering from mental illness — to take anti-depressive pills, anti-anxiety pills, anti-psychotics, etc. making them pliable to manipulation. And millions more have jumped on the “I’m a victim” bandwagon. Both groups — and they encompass a large and growing percentage of the population of “western” nations — will be happy to jump on the “get the other person out of the way, they are the source of my problems/the world’s problems.” Indeed we all need to remember the words of Martin Niemoller: “first they came for…”

Matt
Matt
Jul 27, 2023 12:10 AM

Typically, intellectuals are rounded up and “neutralised” one way or another.
You’re probably right.
Sooner or later.