WATCH: The Dutch School of Understanding – #SolutionsWatch
Tjeerd Andringa joins James Corbett on #SolutionsWatch to discuss his cancellation from his former position at the University of Groningen and, more importantly, how that prompted him to create the School of Understanding.
Designed as a small-scale, decentralized, effective, and cheap solution to the problems of our current schooling, the School of Understanding that Andringa is creating promises to serve as a model for an alternative post-secondary education system.
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Pre-schoolers are being told maybe their sex was mis-assigned at delivery. Maybe they are really a girl in a boy’s body, etc. They are too little to understand that their sex is from cconception, believe the silliness that someone decides it (hence can be mistaken) at birth.
Some grade schools & high schools give children trans-sex clothes to wear during school hours & refer to them by their trans-name. As a matter of “privacy” this isn’t disclosed to parents.
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https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/back-to-school-tips-to-navigate-transgen
O/T but its important, Are you folks seeing a severe uptick in severe illness in the juiced in the last month or so? The delayed illness waves seem to correlate with the intial immunization schedules, what are you observing?
I have only seen symptoms after jab. All got the virus after the jab 2-3 days and looked old and miserable even 2-3 month after.
Since then many got the booster but everybody’s just going on with their lives. Nothing unusual. Except the sheeple still cant see what is up and down, but this was the psychological case also before the jabs.
From “UKrant” [Dutch, “University Newspaper”]
“The alternative truths of Tjeerd Andringa
” Leading freshmen into the conspiracy trap
“Associate professor of cognitive science Tjeerd Andringa, of the University College Groningen, is no longer allowed to teach his course on ‘critical thinking’.
“Not only was he teaching students about conspiracy theories, but he was also converting them to his own ‘alternative truth’.
https://ukrant.nl/magazine/why-tjeerd-andringa-was-banned-from-his-course-he-led-first-years-into-the-conspiracy-trap/?lang=en
Corbett and Dutch Andringa. Connecting the dots. Collecting the puzzle together.
Im sorry but it reminds me too much about the leftist fluffy group thinking kindergarten education:
To learn how to function in a group.we all have to sit together around a puzzle on a table, and each should deliver in their little puzzle brick into the group’s judgement, and the alpha female or majority will make the decision of our common way to the solution..
That is the polar opposite of Andringa’s approach which he calls “transdisciplinary” and is basically a systems overview dynamic and holistic way of thinking. Reductive-mechanistic “puzzle brick consensus” is closer to the way we do things now as ratiocentric moral-determinism.
Interestingly: before reductive “puzzle bricks” were called Lego: lego was the Greek root etymon for sifting and sorting through things which underlies speech; lego, legein and so on means to arrange in speech, to put things in order, to say; I call, I name as grammatical and logical technique — exactly like group building a worldversion based on reductive building blocks, put together by committee consensus to suit the imaginary capacity of the group ta legein legomata as narrative construction. Tjeerd advocates a less reductive approach (see below.)
Maybe I am wrong. I cant get anything out of corbett’s and andringa’s babbling.
Triang’s Lego was fun for small boys involving colour hands eyes imagination feeling happy and constructive Erik.
Don’t listen to these Fuck Headed Dickhead Dummies. These SHITS! have been addicted to Comic books for A Hundred Bloody YEARS.
They are nothing but Bloody Idiots!
Cheers
“lego, legein and so on means to arrange in speech, to put things in order, to suit the imaginary capacity of the group ta legein legomata as narrative construction.”
Having arranged categorised, classified, and hierarchised (moralised, valorised) and grammaticalised things, then you can make stories about them. The stories then further arrange and so on as a narratological and hermeneutic cycle or self-reinforcing feedback loop. Logos and legein share common etymological roots. If we want the nitty gritty, there is always Heidegger.
BTW: libertarian venture capital might sound OK; but the basic method of recuperation shows that what starts off as radical, new, and even dangerous is just absorbed back into the system as assimilated “The Academy Inc.”; just another for profit way of understanding life; just another commodified recuperated part of the spectacle; which is not living but dying.
Venture Capital has a bad name, maybe, right now, but it’s principles are generally good:
You don’t get venture capital funding for a cash business like a bakery – you get a traditional bank loan/crowdfunding for that.
But if you need £250k to generate a novel diagnostic to radically improve the selection of eggs for reimplantation in IVF procedures; if that spend is sufficient to produce a product or indicate that the approach to developing that product is fundamentally flawed (go/no go trigger for next round of funding to trial the products first locally and then internationally); and if the market for such products if and when developed and tested internationally in clinics could well be in the tens to hundreds of millions of pounds annually, then yes: venture funding is entirely appropriate.
Contrary to propaganda, private finance provides little funding to the productive economy. Its main activity is financing the transfer or transformation existing assets, ~80% of which are real estate. -Michael Hudson 2016
Rhys..Your joking..Townie Americans pitch the egg yokes straight from Farms local markets large Stores even chain stores deliveries…as waste trash., yea protein just thrown away..
Elsewhere, I am quite a fan of Tjeerds ‘anti-academic’ work. He is a systems thinker trying to return to more localised (and cognitively manageable) as “self-empowerment localisation”. He has written about morality and also has referenced Lyn Marguilis and “symbiogenesis” on more than one occasion. So there is a certain overlapping of shared worldviews with a much more connected ecologic approach to learning and much to admire.
This interview does not do his “critical paedogogy” that much justice as it is basically an advert for his new academy. Nothing wrong with that, we all gotta live. However, as a #solutionswatch, it’s a non-starter. 12 adolescents per annum at 4,000 euros a head (plus corporate or venture capital backing) over the next ~20 years or so; that’s 240 adults partially equipped to think critically as “cognitive geopolitics” at the holistic systems level.
Nothing wrong with that, but ‘we’ need much more than that. We need the complete rejection of the totalised authoritarianism of moral-rational, logical-analytical, reductive-mechanistic ideological worldversion — and its solipsistic hyperindividual psyche — right now; to counter the indoctrinated psychopaedagogic “I am” essentialism as individuated identitarianism.
Anybody can learn nonlinear and feedback dynamics for free, and pool our new knowledge — as Illychian style deschooling and radical re-empowerment — without Obsidian or becoming backed by venture capital. Obsidian is a good tool, but systems analyst Nicholas Luhman invented that index card approach which he called Zettlekasten. There are lots of free content on Gootube, anybody could learn the basics 15 minutes for a lot less than 4 grand.
So if you live near Gronningen, great. For the rest; an afternoon on Gootube would equip a person with a less reductive-mechanistic ideological viewpoint for free; starting here:
“We need the complete rejection of the totalised authoritarianism of moral-rational, logical-analytical, reductive-mechanistic ideological worldversion”
Especially the ideological worldvision of our present Global Oligarchy with its incompetent dynasties of geriatric Rockefellers, Rothschilds and Pritzkers with its inbred nepotism. Remember, Bill Gates’s family is Rockefeller clan, his grandfather was a Fed banker, and his aunt was on the board of IBM when IBM assigned their PC business to him. This is the “worldversion” that is being foisted on us by plutocrats like Gates and his fellow Rockerfella clanspeople who now own our Academies, our medical education, our Health Systems, the WHO and other UN offices.
A few bad actors or a completely inadequate interpretative mechanism. Earth ecology is nondual, nonlocal, nonlinear, nonreductive, non-deterministic, non-mechanistic (ie living), holistic and so on. Our worldversion is dual, local, linear, reductive, deterministic and so on. Not only is this the polar opposite of the way things are, it is actually incompatible, made possible only by immense technological imposition on the world that is proving disequilibriating economic behaviourism irreducible to bad actors. It is a bad system and will remaning so no matter who is personalised as ‘in control.’
Why is it so hard to see that metaphysical philosophers were daydreaming when the imagined rational-reductive mechanics. They could not ponder the ‘universe’ without braking it down into ‘self-existing essences’ which never existed outside their imagination of things. Greek organicism was gradually deleted and bcame Cartesian mechanism. Is the body really controlled by an alien anima, or was it all made up? The explanatory value is not knowledge, but power. The bad system is imperial, irrational, and destructive made up mumbo jumbo infant minds are forced to accept… but adults can reject human reductivism to moral subjection to dominant and indoctrinated state-dependency on totalitarian ‘reason.’
What is “a less reductive-mechanistic ideological viewpoint”?
What Dutch school is presenting here is group thinking, and what you present here is system thinking.
These two together, system thinking + group thinking, are prevailing today throughout the West.
They fit into the 2-dimensional world of digitisation, computerisation, flat screen, fragment thinking and writing.
Modern life without use of human senses, intuition, and heart, called trans-humanism.
Is it that you wanna sell us?
I’m not selling, Andringa is. I said you could learn what he is selling in an afternoon and save 4 grand! The enactive approach Andringa previously advocated for free is sense-based and closely related to Varela and Maturana’s biocognition some call the “San Diego School”; which is completely sensory rejection of Western mystification. Andringa’s main category is “self-empowerment localisation” which is the opposite of globalisation. Did you watch the presentation and/or follow the links, because all of this was made clear if you look.
From Dutch U-News: This teacher was converting students to non-MSM views on Global Warming, The Vaxx and Big Money. The University board cancelled his course.
The Dutch know Big Money, and respect the Throne: Royal Dutch Shell,
From WikiPedia: A core component of Big Oil, Shell is the second largest investor-owned oil and gas company in the world by revenue (after ExxonMobil), and among the world’s largest companies out of any industry.[4]
Shell was formed in 1907 through the merger of Royal Dutch Petroleum Company of the Netherlands and The “Shell” Transport and Trading Company of the United Kingdom.
Shell is vertically integrated and has operations in over 99 countries,[8] Shell USA, its principal subsidiary in the United States, is one of its largest businesses.[12] Shell holds 44%[13] of Raízen, a publicly-listed joint venture with Cosan, which is the third-largest Brazil-based energy company.[14]
Shell had a market capitalisation of US$199 billion on 15 September 2022, the largest of any company listed on the LSE and the 44th-largest of any company in the world.[15] Until its unification in 2005 as Royal Dutch Shell plc, the firm operated as a dual-listed company, both British and Dutch . From 2005 to 2022, the company had its headquarters in The Hague, its registered office in London.
British schools have become indoctrination centres where all that is actually taught is “Do as you are told”.
To hide this agenda, a combination of OFSTED “inspections” and grade inflation was introduced plus the Bliar (deliberate spelling) regime introduced the wheeze of 50% of schoolchildren must go on to “University”. The small detail of the young adult “graduating” with a worthless piece of paper and huge debt is cheerfully ignored.
Ever increasing sums of public money and debt “invested in the “Education System” combined with political ideology have had the same result as adding large lead weights to swimmers.
A simple answer: scrap both the Department of Education and OFSTED and leave local schools and people to make the decision. Funnily enough that answer is applicable across the entire public sector – the government does NOT know best instead all it does is fleece the public.
“The small detail of the young adult “graduating” with a worthless piece of paper and huge debt is cheerfully ignored.”
“Counterfeit degrees depreciate the good” — Gresham’s Law of academic standards.
Matt C
You have a dreamy, idealised world that ‘local people’ know best. The truth is that local officials are just as variable as national ones and the evidence is in that the vast majority of local councils are incompetent, corrupt, spendthrift, narcissistic, not to mention neglectful of child safety where sexual abuse in care homes was concerned.
I happen to live in an area where the council has been extremely well run the past 25 years. It had a leader who recently retired, so there is potential risk of less good performance in future, however that is something that one simply monitors going forward to see if things are starting to slide and, if so, why.
You will also find that the more affluent areas will develop better schooling in general, which ossifies the class divides into a nation already obsessed with money, status and pathetic little dominance complex play-acting.
I agree that self-help in the working class has historical precedent, notably in the building societies, the Friendly Societies, credit unions, Cooperatives, local libraries. But I don’t think that there is precedent for run-down, working class communities lacking stable employment having the time, the firepower, the finances and the organisational skills to truly give their children a better chance in life. It’s a challenge I hope that many UK communities take up to prove me wrong – it’s something I would be entirely delighted to be proven wrong about.
Now, to be brutal, if you want a community to be solvent and self-sustaining, you need it to be sovereign over the following matters:
Now basic reality dictates that water- and gas management are likely to be non-local, since rain falls mostly on higher ground and water collection tends to occur in the foothills of such places. Of course, promoting effective groundwater creation and retention forms a core part of modern urban planning, but it’s pretty impossible to ignore neighbouring regions when it comes to planning for water management.
What I think your comments reflect is a desire for national government to focus solely on those arenas which only national initiatives can solve (like the Motorway system, air traffic control, inter-city railways; representing citizens abroad and providing a focal point for diplomatic representations by foreign officials; maintaining an armed forces designed to repel foreign threats; etc.
However, it’s arguable that certain issues like water management are best done by authorities covering an entire drainage system (like the Severn, Wye, Thames, Trent, Humber and tributaries etc), since those are the most logical holistic elements to incorporate.
Atomising society, however, simply won’t work.
What IS required is finding alternative places of work for control freak psychopaths who don’t act in the interest of citizens, they act in the interest of shadowy globalists who will happily sacrifice entire nations just to earn wealth they neither need nor know what to do with.
The suggestion of a dreamy idealised world has to be far better than what is currently on offer – being constantly told what to do by unelected officials and corrupt politicians
One thing all gvts have in common is that no individual is as responsible as the collective gvt, and then they insured it with a thing called, ……………wait for it………… the law.
Hawaii’s Gov Josh Green: Those people wanting to buy the burnt out land from property owners are scammers. “I’m already thinking of ways for the state to acquire that land so that we can put it into workforce housing, to put it back into families, or make it open spaces in perpetuity as a memorial to the people who were lost.” Don’t you believe it. They want that land for nefarious purposes– maybe an update of Alaska’s HAARP.
Due to the speed of fires {by laser) & blockage of many exit roads, 100 people died. See the perfect ellipse of fire around Lahaina here.
Biden’s giving each burnt-out household one-time aid of $700!
globalresearch.ca has an article on it
If Hawaii’s Gov Josh Green build it up again as it was before, we will burn it down again.
Until he learn America mean business.
You’re a psychopathic terrorist, are you? America doesn’t mean business, it means ‘globalist mafia’.
Official America is probably to be labelled as psychotic terrorist. I think we can call these acts something like that.
What about the local authorities contribution? Something is blinding them from acting rational, and they cant all be psychos.
If people haven’t insured their own homes, it’s difficult to say they should be bailed out. Those homes weren’t cheap, they were worth $1.2m on average. People who can afford homes of that price should be able to afford home insurance.
However, I can see a point in the local State rebuilding where no insurance existed and then giving those uninsured ex home owners the chance to rent and eventually buy their own homes again. That’s constructive, it’s supportive and it’s fiscally sensible.
If America truly believes that State officers helping people to buy their own homes again is Communism, then they have gone stark raving bonkers.
lasers, ffs
That how they start them fires.
I agree. Lasers. It’s been done before– In CA.
DOCTOR ON FRONTLINES TELLS WHERE TRANGENDER IS COMING FROM
Informative & shocking video interview of Dr. Miriam Grossman
Tells you how to effectively fight back. She also has a best-selling book.
https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/back-to-school-tips-to-navigate-transgender
DARE I SAY IT? (LUI ET MOI NEVER O.T.
OY!)
BONNE ANNIVERSAIRE, MONSIEUR POLANSKI
HAPPY 9-0, MON VIEUX!
You have earned a shout out, just in Parisian artiste sweat equity alone!
~ “Jean” Ervin
If the ‘understanding’ leads to humility, awe and God forbid, Love, we will be getting somewhere.
Dutch ok. Deuche Dutch 1825ish passport. It’s ok Grandma Grandad we still love you both..
Both of my paternal grandparents are from this part of Holland. I feel “special”. Fucking intolerant and aggressive. Get out of line and you will pay a price. That’s all you need to know. You are held accountable. It’s all about pain.
Just because you get a sexual frisson from having your ass whipped doesn’t mean that pain is an effective way of behaviour management. I make it a principle never to submit to pain inflicters, as in general they are psychopaths who cannot argue but expect authority.
Those that think they have authority just because they had a f**k 9 months previously need some basic lessons in how authority is earned….
Sounds like you were drinking as much as I was. Sexual Frisson? Whoa. My comment was semi tongue in cheek. And I WAS drunk. Sorry to have touched a nerve. My bad. Although, almost every other kid in my neighborhood suffered from the same fate.
Many of the readers here at Off-G have spent decades thinking for ourselves, reading critically, studying, thinking about the true nature of power, the state, Big Business, false narratives etc. Teaching people to think for themselves certainly is important for future generations. But what about teaching about the above systematically? Does everyone have to figure this out by themselves?
I often feel forced to the conclusion that nobody learns anything unless they want to.
Information which enters the human brain from any external impetus is quickly forgotten.
That is why the zomboids trying desperately to invent a system of controlling the human spirit have already lost the battle.
If, on the other hand, their intention is to destroy the human spirit, rather than guide it, I expect some combination of Mengel and Pavlov would work – but what a waste that would be.
And in any case they have no idea what the human spirit is.
@And in any case they have no idea what the human spirit is.
Or the direction it wants to take oneself.
In my opinion we all have a will.
Yes you can be brainwashed, MK ultra all that but….in the end you are met with a final choice.
I saw a amazing video with an amish guy who was in spiritual connection with God/Cosmos. An inner voice speaks when he go wrong and correct things for him. He was aligned with his horse, his dog, the crops he was harvesting, the birds, the big cities, the government.
All was duly organised correct in his brain spiritually to Cosmos.
Its possible for everybody to find that inner spirit, but it requires an inner will.
If people refuse to hear their inner objections again again again, at some point they will be lost. They have taken the wrong final choice. Back to dust.
Actually, for many people, life isn’t that simple. The objections come from others, they may be more powerful than you.
If you retreat from society, live like the Amish, have no-one trying to steal your land, then yes, you can live attuned to nature.
In most parts of the world, there are aggressive and viscious humans who are all-out to stop you doing things, sometimes despite earning vast amounts of money themselves.
Until the law says that I can murder a predatory psychopath without having to spend years going to court to prove unprovable things (no external witnesses to emotional and spiritual terrorism), the things I choose to do can be vandalised by security service thugs.
I know, we know. But the claim was our will. Nelson Mandela survived in prison.
Your comment is all fine, but it compare apples with pears.
That’s certainly true for some people, I think you can learn things at a superficial level if you’re not engaging, but for deep learning, you need to be personally engaged.
Knowledge is the sum total of sensory acquired experience indexed, packaged, stored and made accessible in one or more biological formats. To process experience into knowledge requires algorithms. To process biologically stored knowledge into context ordered meaning requires algorithms. Each meaning can be represented as a vector in n-dimensional space.
To process meaning into understanding another processing algorithm (ability) is needed. Such an algorithm must be capable to access, to select and to process knowledge into a set of meanings. Selecting the relevant meaning from the set of meanings is yet another process. Processes are algorithms. Thus, each knowledge:meaning link can be represented as a vector in n-dimensional space. The profile of each knowledge:meaning vector internally is organized into layers and extended into imaginary space by its scope, or better; by its depth of coverage. Determining coverage requires yet another algorithm.
A simple description of understanding is that understanding is an architecture constructed from knowledge. The elements in the structure have dimensions; width, depth, shape, context, etc.). So all knowledge is personal to the individual different individuals have different sets of algorithms. Understanding then an n-dimensional structure in real and imaginary vector space.
Critical examination(conscious intentional thought) requires yet other algorithms. In humans, biological processing (algorithms), formatting knowledge into biological formats and places to store the formatted knowledge [memory] are each products of genetics.
Maybe everyone needs to be taught what the goal of thinking is, so they each person can activate the processes needed to think?
You speak like a mathematician. My experience of life is rather different. I came to realise my ‘inner instincts’, which were not mathematical calculations, rather a deep attunement with the patterns of nature. I’ve successfully predicted weather patterns three weeks in advance based on that (I don’t do it any more because I stopped spending vast amounts of time in the mountains) and I called it my ‘inner mountain goat’.
I can’t ‘prove’ this to you through analytical equations, but I did provide useful predictions to groups who wanted to make destination decisions.
Often, ‘learning’ is manifested through an instinctive understanding of what is required now, without carrying out detailed reductionist analysis using differential equations.
Sure, in a business you would do analysis of sales trends going back 3-5 years to inform your judgements, but ultimately, past history shows that instincts are manifestations of years of absorbing learning in an unconscious fashion.
For many, a lifetime of compromise and swallowing pre-digested thought makes change implausible. Even age 16-18 may be too late.
It’s never too late… keep piling up the anomalies and paradigms eventually break.
It’s not to late.
But, yes, it is easier for the people who don’t have sympathies towards politics/politicians or its tribal way of operating and for people who have “problems” with authorities and their mo of imposing the way of thinking, behaving, and desired sets of values.
I was (re)born when I was 45 – because of my “problems” with authorities and disgust towards cult of worshiping people (politicians) like gods and idols.
When I see that, I question everything.
I disagree – what’s needed is merely to go to another country where the rules you endured as a child are different. Then you experience things differently and you start learning what is arbitrary, what is local custom and what is more universal.
If you put yourself regularly in new environments with different rules and customs, you can keep on learning throughout life.
BINGO!
“thinking about the true nature of Power, the State, Big Business, False Narratives etc”.
Useless to set up new Academies unless we can identify the rottenness which has crept into the old ones. Academies have a very ancient history: Babylon hired wise men to follow a star, and Astronomy has been an Academic discipline ever since..
Plato set up the first Western Academy, and wrote his Socratic Dialougues for just those purposes which are cited above by Tom Larsen. In “The Republic’ and “The Laws” he explored the State. About Big Business he said very little: only a throw-away remark that DIY is unskilled labour; a worker should be proficient in one saleable skill and use surplus income to hire different skilled workers rather than bodge with DIY.
Plato really went to town about False Narratives:
“Most of subsequent philosophy is a footnote to Plato’s question, What is Truth?”. — Alfred Whitehead.
Tom – there’s a time and a place to learn to think critically. Most importantly, you can’t start to do that until you have enough basic knowledge to know what to be critical of.
The place to start is in the home by helping the children to realise that mummy and daddy don’t always tell the truth. When they learn that, it’s much easier to accept that newspapers, the MSM, other children at school, teachers, may not be telling the truth either.
To think critically, you need to be comfortable accepting the insecurity of needing to determine every day whether someone is telling the truth or not.
That requires considerable inner security and the reason so many long for truth from the TV, from politicians etc etc is that they never developed that inner security as young children in their families.
I have to give you a thumb down for that. Cant believe you write this.
If children cant rely on their parents they have no one. They need at least to trust their parents. Then they are able to keep up with the rest of the world.
Thats why they end up in park with other children and begin to smoke marihuana.
Because they found out their parents were like any stranger. Not to be trusted.
Children must be confirmed that lies exist but are non-acceptable, especially from parents.
No recognition of the unwanted child, or what becomes of them once the parents are too busy living their lives?
Do unto your children as you would have your children do unto the gvt.
My critical thinking about society started early, my teens, but all of my siblings have bought into pretty much every lie we could cite here: the Cold War, Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq, the GWOT, Trump Derangement Syndrome, Covid, Climate Change etc. So, I don’t think it came from my parents who also did not think critically about the world. They thought critically aboat other things, but not the actions of our government.
I think my critical thinking came from being placed in different circumstances growing up, where some of the life assumptions in one did not fit in another, thus drawing into question all of them (assumptions). This led to questioning larger assumptions…
I go out of my way to indoctrinate my kids and grandkids with the idea that we cannot trust anything coming from public figures. Strongest Message: Climate change narrative is all lies. Gotta keep hammering. Government cannot be trusted. Simply planting that idea while encouraging them to question everything.