The Metaphysical as a Rational Option
Todd Hayen
One thing I believe my bent toward metaphysics has prepared me for is when something that falls into the realm of the “unseen” then becomes “seen,” I don’t freak out. The material world, or the material view of the world, has been rather stable for quite some time. Or at least it has seemed to be stable. If the majority of the people who occupy the physical world believe it to be stable, and believe it to follow material laws, then the world will probably calm down and present itself in that manner.
All the dragons, devils, demons, fairies, angels, elves, ghosts, spirits, and apparitions, will slither away into their hiding places and rarely, if ever, be seen by non-believers.
Mark my words though, they are still there. They are waiting to be acknowledged once again, as they were in days of old—the evil ones as well as the good ones. Waiting.
We see them in our dreams, and in movies like The Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and even in the popular series Yellowstone (Native American rituals), but in real life, in the material world, we only see their actions, and we explain away the causes of these actions with metaphors. That method is quickly losing its veracity. We may have to start seeing these causes as metaphysical as well as rational explanations.
So what does that mean? I recently re-posted this meme on Facebook:
Is this metaphor? Or does Laura Matsue, the person who originally posted the meme, see this literally? I would suspect she sees it literally, and I would suspect that many, if not most, reading it and agreeing with it, see it as literal too.
Just a few years ago, people would think folks that believe such things to be kooks at best, and dangerous psychotics at worst. I think things are different now. I certainly see things differently. A statement like the one found in this meme may have hit a more metaphoric tone with me four years ago, now I honestly wonder how literal it is.
Of course the sentiment this meme expresses has been around a long time. Certainly as far back as the timeline presented in most of the Bible after Genesis, or even before. The snake in the Garden of Eden being the first example of this “spiritual virus.” Although at times throughout history, humanity has been close to the edge of losing this battle, we were not there, and now we are here, and the battle between good and evil does seem to be rather pronounced at the time. And that is an understatement.
There was a time when people believed the earth was flat (cynicism intended). Along with that ancient belief, there was an assumption that dragons were at the edge of the flat world, and if a mariner ventured too far toward that edge, the dragons would either scare him away with great spectacle, or destroy him mercilessly. Maybe there actually were dragons in that time and place. Maybe there were fairies and unicorns as well, all things we have no physical evidence of now.
But new ancient stuff is discovered all of the time, and if there is any truth to the idea that things manifest through a powerful system of thought and belief, once enough people believe, the evidential remains of such creatures will begin to show up. Wouldn’t that be a hoot? Indeed it would!
Why is all of this important?
I think it is time that we start realizing that something is going on that can only be explained through a metaphysical explanation. This is something that the sheep folk have a very difficult time with. Most shrews I know are much less resistant to this idea. Many shrews are very religious folks, and have no problems with phrases such as “the devil” or “Satan” or “evil force” so it stands to reason they would not have much of a problem with a metaphysical explanation for the world gone awry.
Many shrews seem to be more open-minded (duh) and not as seduced by materialism and “material science” (there IS another “approach” to science that isn’t purely materialist). Although these thinkers like to have evidence and some semblance to a cause and effect correlation, they are more comfortable allowing for something a bit outside of the bell curve of causality.
This is good. Because I am strongly beginning to think there is no other way to fully explain what is going on.
Sheep can’t seem to do this. Once they run up against that ubiquitous question, “why would they do that?” they fall apart. If the answer to that question even smacks of aligning with “Satan wants to destroy humanity” they run out the door—although this response very well may be the most “scientific” answer available—or something equally as metaphysical.
Most people in my circle, academic as well as personal, have no problem with metaphysics. We tend, as mentioned, to look for metaphor rather than manifest reality to answer difficult questions—such as, did Jesus really ascend into heaven, or is that a metaphor? It is easier on the materialist indoctrination we all receive beginning in childhood to do such a thing: keep events such as the ascension of Christ within physical constraints, and if not possible to do, to then call it a metaphor.
I would say this is a “tendency” amongst us, but is not a given, particularly with things that happened a long time ago. I for one have no problem with material miracles (making the metaphysical a rational option in explanation) that have occurred throughout Biblical history. But a modern belief in physical fairies and elves is rare (because a modern belief system that allows such things is not very popular) but was not so rare in days of old, before science wiped out anything non-material as being “real.”
Now I think the tides are turning.
What we are dealing with today is ineffable, certainly ineffable if a material explanation was all that we had in our attempt to define it. This fact is probably the primary reason why the sheep have not joined our ranks. They absolutely refuse to believe anything that does not fit cleanly into a materialist paradigm. They do this with psychology as well, which is utter nonsense (although the clinical and academic world of psychology has been on a materialist track since William James was kicked out of the club over 100 years ago, Jung tried to keep it going down a more integrated path but he also has been as good as ousted from any serious study of psychology in modern times).
So what is the truthful explanation for today’s events? That I cannot say for sure. I am not sure if anyone can say for sure at this point. But I know I do not preclude a metaphysical explanation, and so far, attempts at that sort of explanation have been the most thorough in its efforts to explain. Why is it important to attempt to explain what is happening around us? If we are to fight it, we must understand it for what it is. If we think it is limited to greed, power, and money, we will then be more likely to fall for its cleverness in its attempt to control us, or exterminate us, or worse—separate us from our soul.
“…our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.”
Ephesians 6:11-12
Todd Hayen is a registered psychotherapist practicing in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. He holds a PhD in depth psychotherapy and an MA in Consciousness Studies. He specializes in Jungian, archetypal, psychology. Todd also writes for his own substack, which you can read here
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there’s long history of the spiritual war but you are homing in on the right area…scientism and materialism are destroying the planet and souls…time to become spiritual warriors
Couldn’t agree with Laura Matsue more.
I would add that there are already many not human persons all around us.
I find the argument between “rationalists” and those who consider the metaphysical amusing. Rationalists believe that two thirds of the universe is dark matter. An invisible undetectable mass. Yet they scoff at those who speak of the spiritual because they cannot present it for inspection.
Good point. A sort of quantum of bigotry so intrinsic that it’s an undetectable dark matter, by them. DENIALISM takes many forms though.
It calls to mind the assessment by GKC: “There is no bigot like the atheist.”
That sounds like a bias in itself until you break it down socratically. The essence of GKC thought.
When you get into theoretical physics most of the rules of material science are thrown out.
Dark matter is not “an invisible undetectable mass.” Just because we have yet to perceive it does not necessarily disprove its existence.
Is that not the case with God as well? No – because whereas we have only been looking for dark matter for a few decades, we have been “looking” for God for thousands of years – and still haven’t detected Him.
Why is it okay for God to exist in a form undetectable to humans, but not okay for dark matter to exist in a similar form?
If you give up looking for something you may find it. Your preconception will blind you otherwise.
That must be at least a part of the “mechanism” involved in the workaholic scientist genius seeking a solution then nodding off and dreaming it, often in pictorial or metaphorical schematics. Lucidity at times accumulates like a coral reef, seen by few in dreams. Or more often remembered by few.
Some of that exhilarating process is mapped out methodically in the great old book by W.I.B. Beveridge, “The Art of Scientific Investigation.”
At their greatest depth the Art Spirit and the “truest” science meet in an encounter beyond the mere motion of revolution and in perfect peace, what James Douglass (JFK & the Unspeakable) aptly chose as his book title, “The Nonviolent Coming of God“.
As the poet put it, “in dreams begins responsibility.”
And sometimes they lead us past “the blindness of preconception.”
Hopefully only temporary.
God is only undetectable to “certain humans” not because He is some invisible dark matter ~ whether either so great or so sub~atomic, or a mix and match of both ~ but rather so innate in their own DNA that they can’t discern the difference. Yet.
exactly! G-d is infinite nothingness – an infinite sub-atomic vibration that conjures the universe into existence
Or maybe more delicately spelled “no-thingness“. Eckhart Tolle brings that quality or essence up in his books, over and over, using that hyphen or separation. But of course, since the Creator is uncreated. “Much” just as His Son is “begotten, not made.” At least that’s how the Creed in my missals had it, till they had to go and change it a dozen years ago, and add “consubstantial with the Father.” [Whatever that means. I used to ride my bike around the back roads of Kauai half a century past, and there were countless giant frogs who had become “consubstantial” with the asphalt. Often jointly. Or avoided in stacks. A local priest actually used an image close to that, if not such a tropical mess, when at Mass, in his sermon 2010, after the Vatican added that Latinate word, as his handy & useful visual to compare the dynamic stasis… Read more »
And I have it on good authority that unicorns are “only undetectable” to those unwilling to make the leap of faith needed to prove their existence.
If we’re to believe Astronomy regarding the size of the universe, there is a lot of space out there. Nature not only abhors a vacuum; it abhors emptiness as well. So something must be out there filling all that space. It can be God or it can be the missing unicorns – or it can be dark matter.
Let’s see now: which of the three is most likely?
Sounds like a game show.
Many people find God. Often times in direct and dramatic ways. Why dismiss these millions of data points?
“I don’t understand it; therefore it violates cause & effect” is a non sequitur. Reality exists quite apart from our understanding of it.
What logically follows from “I don’t understand it is a period, NOT a “therefore.”
Who are you quoting here? “I don’t understand it; therefore it violates cause and effect”??
I didn’t mean it as a quote, but as an implicit premise or argument. To address the meaning of this article & your earlier one “The Tyranny of Cause & Effect” it’s quite necessary to look at implicit premises. A more overt one is the idea that higher order concepts, ideals and functions are denied by science, which is necessarily reductionist (scientism & fit only for sheep). How came you to accept the idea that science is necessarily reductionist, forever seeking that cause & effect be constructed from the nature of particles? You’re bright. Obviously you know that identity and certain aspects of causality flow from the ORGANIZATION of particles, of electrical charge & factors as yet unknown. Of the two piles of identical atoms sitting on my desk only one can jump down and say meow, thus demonstrating an aspect of causality forever denied to the disorganized pile. By all means reject reductionism, but… Read more »
Good points. My articles are short, and undeniably simple (because I am not capable of being all that complex in my own thinking). I cannot go into much detail in 1,500 words, and even if I could, I doubt if you would approve much of what I say. I will stick to my assertion that science is reductionist. Although I do not come to that conclusion through empirical experimentation, I have read literally hundreds of books on the subject. Cause and effect is a different matter, and when you get down to the quantum level, who knows. I do know the primary “problem” of material science acknowledging the reality of metaphysical “events” is that you cannot explain an “effect” by a non-material “cause.” As usual, I probably did not explain that very well. Obviously a materialist scientist would take issue with most that I say on this topic.There are always… Read more »
By the way, I would never agree with your opening quote, “If I don’t understand it, it violates cause and effect”…you say I imply this in my articles…it certainly is not an intentional implication. I think a scientist would say, “If I don’t understand this, I don’t understand it, but one day I will, and it certainly will be explainable through a material causality”…”promissory materialism”…
“The impression is given that the fundamental mechanism is settled and that only details need working out. Karl Popper referred to this situation as “promissory materialism.””
https://www.edge.org/response-detail/11002
Like some say that is the underlying premise, or “promise,” of Marxism: the perfectibility of mankind.
That is their main stumbling block, for those who swallow that canard whole. (Living in Paris for some years I know that kind in droves.)
The core problem in the divide is that man in fact IS perfectible, but not through material means, or “horizontally.”
Only by NOT being conformed to the (material) world, but by the renewal of his (true) mind. As The Apostle puts it.
Restored, and but “vertically”: “be lifted up by the renewal of your minds.”
But unfortunately materialists of all kinds of stripes have a spiritual awareness that doesn’t go any higher than their hair. (Yet.?)
That immaterial vertical does not show on any of their menus!
Thank you for the extensive reply. It’s of no importance that we wouldn’t agree: I oppose to Leibniz’s windowless monads an integrated worldview that rejects contradiction and can find no evidence of permanent separation between various areas of knowledge. Accordingly I find most philosphy a vast desert. Amazing to me that “metaphysics” now conjures up “that which cannot be integrated with science” rather than the metaphysics of Aristotle.
Was it an ‘assumption’ that there were dragons at the edge of the flat world?
Sounds like a psyop.
No, we just assume that because dragons were often drawn on the edges of maps.
I would like to remind you that many ancient people, such as the Romans, depicted emperors holding an orb to symbolize control of the world, in fact a word for the universe is Orbis.
There’s also the idea of antipodes among the Greeks, people on the other side of the world being different.
The idea that people commonly thought the world was flat is a psyop.
Aah, thank you.
I don’t actually think the Earth is flat, although I would love it if it were one day proved to be.
Also I don’t trust the Romans, they probably drew the dragons on the maps 😉
We can be certain that the PTB do truly believe in the metaphysical because of all the occult rituals they perform. Here’s a link of so-called Illuminati insiders:
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread402958/pg74#pid27096576
God is the Devil
and
The Devil is God
The two are the same.
Only the naive mind of the neophyte struggles with this and craves a divisive paradigm to feel like they are wise.
Just notional names in the whimsical winds of constant change.
So says the ancient Enemy.
Meanwhile, hope you get better.
Be well sooner.
Your future is bleaker than your present…
Absolutely! In fact, in the Gnostic theology, that is precisely the case. At any rate, it is a lovely whimsical notion that there’s a good guy and a bad guy and both have nothing else to do but watch us day and night.
God supposedly created a whole universe but only concentrates on one teeny tiny planet and its human population. The rest of the universe is one great big “Oops! Should have stopped once man took root. But oh no! I had to go and create all that other stuff that nobody gives a damn about!”
Every Gnostic invents their own “theology”. And clearly people care about the beyond.
If nothing else, it helps us somewhat understand the infinity of God.
Nothing God does is useless.
And it is an orthodox position that nothing happens by chance or accident. In a word there is always reason, or a reason, however obscure that form of reason is to the mere mortal mind. (I use the word ‘orthodox’ simply since in our more modern eras that notion sounds perhaps unorthodox.) That is the point that is forever contested by “refuseniks” who are ever aghast at some of the horrific outcomes for individuals, those who take the hard(est) fouls for the team. But as the saint once said “God knows what he’s doing and knows who can take them.” That is epitomized in the seriously ancient text of job who gets such a working over that his wife assumes he must be lost and says “Curse God then, and die,” as he sits bereaved beyond compare, and covered head to toe with boils on his dungheap, a stunning precipitous… Read more »
But only that to man’s perspective? If you tried to run power lines or stations through a wall outlet they’d be fried in a New York nanosecond. So the story of our destinies is custom fitted for our souls and perceptions in their early and seminal states. Pascal has an insight when he said the universe is a great sphere whose circumference is unknowable and whose center is everywhere. My compadre S. Brian Willson has a thought like that as the epigraph at his website, a thought that is quite similar (check it out, I have texter’s cramp). And he adds about peoples beyond our shores a bracing reminder, “We are not worth more, they are not worth less.” And it seems quite clear that the Christ perspective is that we souls are all equal under God’s loving rule. “He does not show partiality” even though our makeup and gifts… Read more »
Your preconceptions about what is called god are easy to disprove- how convenient.
Would you really argue that most people have a preconception of God along the lines of, say, St. Augustine or Thomas Aquinas? Or do most people conceive of God as the stereotypical old white bearded man?
In a word- No. I have no idea what the saintly duo’s conception of God is, or what everyone in the world thinks. My conception of God is my own,in silence from the core of my being. Anything else would just be one of those second hand word salads.
Spiritual warfare.
Evil manifests generation to generation.
Sad so few cannot see it or understand it..
Bible
We should disassociate the bible from the spiritual and the divine. The three main monotheisms are based on abstractions created by materialist bankers about three thousand years ago. The bankers aimed at world domination and the ever increasing expansion of their wealth and the size of the world economy. They needed a tough arse kicking and vengeful god that had a special place for them. They needed this god to establish discipline and industriousness and passivity in the multitudes they expected to rule over from behind the scenes in the milennia that were to follow.
So the bankers created God…
That was very clever of them, considering the primitive tools at their disposal thousands of years ago…
Okay, I’ll meet you half-way:
God didn’t create bankers. Something else did…
The bankers did not create the creator, obviously. They had the foresight to create this abstraction they said was god and the intellect and the organisation to steadily convert most of the world’s population to their religions. The creation of Christianity is quite evident when one analyses the activities of the first century Alexandria based philosopher Philo, his well connected family and St Paul. The conversion of Constantine and the use of the Roman Empire to spread the new branch of the original monotheism are indications of the immense behind the scenes power of the bankers. A power that has grown relentlessly through the centuries and which now has control over every nation on the planet.
The devil is another necessary abstraction for control. He is the fellow who roasts you for eternity if you step out of line.
That’s true, but it still behooves us to study the bible for clues about our current predicament. The elohim may not be God Almighty, but that still doesn’t prove that they don’t exist. Of late, my own approach to the bible is more like that of early Gnostic Christians: the angels and demons are basically just the gods and titans renamed. But Christ is the son of the true God, the true heavenly and spiritual creator. The gods and titans (angels and demons) associated with organized religion — not just the ‘Abrahamic’ ones — are actually the archons (“rulers”) that St. Paul was referring to in the above quotation.
We don’t really know who wrote the Bible – only whom it is attributed to. And even if the peoples whose stories are mentioned were the actual scribes, it’s well established that the Catholic Church appropriated guardianship of both Old and New Testament and did their usual hocus-pocus on it.
There seems to be one great truism: never – but NEVER – let an organized religion anywhere near a Holy Book.
We? That’s assumptive. Speak for yourself.
… TPTB took out the most important part of the Bible: The Book of Enoch. Without it, most of the more metaphysical parts of the rest of the Bible are somewhat meaningless. They nog only took this boo out; they went through great lengths tot distroy it. Makes you wonder what else they didn’t want you tot read…
Oh dear..
The problem is divine truth stands. Notwithstanding who wrote the bible when and how or who manipulated everything in the bible or not, truth is truth.
If you find truth in the bible and perceive and confirm it is truth, it is truth, and you cant run away any more, you cant invent more excuses, you cant escape with I believe, I think, my opinion, science say, there is hocus pocus.
The account is finally confirmed and settled.
Most depressing sight I’ve yet seen (and that’s saying something!): https://twitter.com/roisinmurphy/status/1696510651378582006 Róisín Murphy offends against “the transgender community” and grovels to be permitted back into their good books. (Which will never happen anyway.) So what blasphemy did she commit? Over to Wiki: “In August 2023, a Twitter user shared a screenshot of Murphy commenting on a post about Irish anti-transgender activist Graham Linehan, in which she described puberty blockers as “absolutely desolate”, adding “Big Pharma laughing all the way to the bank.” Murphy made these comments after several European countries began limiting these drugs when their public health authorities concluded that their risk-benefit ratio spans from uncertain to unfavorable. After coming under fire for her comments, she released a statement a few days later, saying “I cannot apologise enough for being the reason for this eruption of damaging and potentially dangerous social media fire and brimstone”.” Just stop and ask… Read more »
I couldn’t agree with you more…seems like she is more afraid of losing her fan-base than anything else.
yes!
it’s what it’s all about.
clearly visible astrologically too.
the end times, which is happy news for ALL of us.
And you’ll never guess. That apocalyptic series “The Last of Us” turns out to be REALLY REALLY TRUE:
https://www.wired.com/story/the-battle-against-the-fungal-apocalypse-is-just-beginning/
Climate change is to blame! And “medicine” isn’t ready! Oh No! Quick! Give all the money over to the medicinal gurus! Submit to an injection every hour!
Yes, yes!!! It is the only way to save us!!!
the game? it does not even have options for rope making.
Off topic: Jesus fucking Christ, how many of these PR companies are there? https://event.trustconference.com/event/7fd73801-77ad-4c92-a091-6df31d1e07e0/summary Apparently this started off as the oddly named Trust Women Conference. The blurb is boilerplate: “….. world-leading experts, innovators and activists …. pressing global issues…media freedom …. socio-economic inclusion …. climate emergency. …” In short, another corporate entity assembled to debate “crises” manufactured precisely to be debated and used as justification for whatever scam the parasite class wish to inflict next. Not surprisingly, Thomson Reuter are hovering in the background. The latest buzz from our “Trust Conference” is something called a “media extinction event”. The Trust lot give no details of this (presumably because their jolly conference has not yet happened) but here is some enlightenment: https://news.un.org/en/story/2021/04/1090822 Note how this dates from 2021 i.e. a year into the covid era. So what is a “media extinction event”? In a nutshell it is simply the ominous spectre of… Read more »
It’s just as if a man were wounded with an arrow thickly smeared with poison. His friends and companions, kinsmen and relatives would provide him with a surgeon, and the man would say, ‘I won’t have this arrow removed until I know whether the man who wounded me was a noble warrior, a priest, a merchant, or a worker.’ He would say, ‘I won’t have this arrow removed until I know the given name and clan name of the man who wounded me… until I know whether he was tall, medium, or short… until I know whether he was dark, ruddy-brown, or golden-colored… until I know his home village, town, or city… until I know whether the bow with which I was wounded was a long bow or a crossbow… until I know whether the bowstring with which I was wounded was fiber, bamboo threads, sinew, hemp, or bark… until… Read more »
Very well put…thank you for this.
Thank you. The first quote, as I understand it, describes humanity after the “Fall”, which some religions associate with an “Original Sin”, and other understandings with the actual historical transition from hunting-gathering to settling and domesticating the land and animals, i.e. the appearance of lucrative private property. Before, humans acquired what they needed, no more no less, which they consumed (the motive for acquisition) within a short period of time, then acquired again and so on. Ownership wasn’t an issue as long as it was associated with use and consumption. Then, and this is quite a historical turning point IMO, humans acquired more than what they consumed or used in the foreseeable future. And this property therefore presented itself to their consciousness for longer periods of time as something theirs but could not make theirs through incorporation or use into their persons. This property, as a solid existence inside or… Read more »
Isnt your buddist parable a death wish. The man wish to die, why he uses all kinds of excuses to avoid surgery?
Isnt the vax a death wish? The agenda is depopulation. Western culture is build upon depopulation: Plastic lolitas and dildos, abortion, eugenics, public funds for suicide, 0 sum, the elderly bomb, children cost you and sucks energy.
People wants to collectively die (group think), why they uses all kinds of excuses to get the jab?
The “why would they do that?” question. As soon as sheep realise 9/11 was an inside job, then virtually everything else should slot into place. They’re won over to our world reality from this focal point. Would they murder 3,000 people to realise their evil dreams? Yes. Jeezus, I only live once. I gotta spread the word, stop voting them in and do something for my kids before it’s too late.
I’ve got a good liberal vaxxed friend who is pretty much onboard with the 9/11 scam, has read “The Unpspeakable…” regarding JFK, knows good and well that the banksters rule the world and knows that Wall Street fucked the world with their casino capitalism even before 2008, knows that most Pharma drugs are poison and that diet can do far more for many health problems than Pharma ever could, but will NOT see the covidiocy for the plandemic it was. Refuses to see how this idiocy is part and parcel of all the lies we have been fed from birth. Holds on to the idea that the scary Right Wing is most of the problem, although does freely admit Democrats are nothing more than paid shills, corrupted to their core. Sadly, while I so wish what you say is true about the Big Lie slotting into place once other lies… Read more »
‘Numinous’ might be a better word to describe what you are suggesting Todd.
‘Meta’ has an ugly corporate connatation these days.
Just sayin.
‘connOtation’
Dummy :-{
Spellcheck…another evil idea to further the agenda (it makes the mind lazy).
Great point. FWIW, I spend half my time doing a comment by double checking the spelling and the accuracy of the words I use. I used to know these things; but lack of usage dulls the mind very quickly.
Hey…I like that…thank you. Very good point.
“I think it is time that we start realizing that something is going on that can only be explained through a metaphysical explanation.” I disagree, Todd. Profoundly.
Even many tyrants have a conscience that needs assuaging–amd so may lean upon the devil as a counterweight to outraged humanity and violation of the Good.
In every age there have existed tyrants who sought to conquer the known world. Attila is an unchanging psychological archetype. He is different in our time only in that he has more technology available to him.
Nor do I see a reason to describe the nonmaterial or seemingly nonmaterial as a violation of causality. Knowledge is contextual and there is much that we don’t know. To describe that which is unknown or mysterious as “violating cause and effect” is, I think, epistemological error.
everything has to do with ”metaphysics”. everything, always. i recommend jessica davidson’s analyses re historical events/astrological explanations.
this book by liz greene is very important re history, and now.
https://jessicadavidson.co.uk/2019/07/08/saturn-pluto-and-the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it/
But, the universal definition of our planets is that their function is to regulate the earth and moons place, circulation and distance from the sun.
Further humans are said to have free will.
In my ears it doesnt fit in that we should be mechanical dolls and sheep after how much Pluto approaches Saturn?
it’s the other way round. a chart, a snap shot of the planets at one’s birth are a map. transits are yet another map, reflecting our journey.
individually, and collectively.
So we make the planets moving. I have to think a little over that one.
synchronicity.
Where do I say anywhere in this article that anything mysterious or unknown “violates cause and effect”?
OffG love you – but how come we’re not talking about maui?
a cartoonishly obvious / remarkably sloppy cover-up of something
The warning klaxons didn’t go off – but they managed to go off a few years back for the false alert that North Korean nuclear weapons had been launched and were on their way?
Here’s a very good summation of the Maui tragedy by Glen Beck which will never reach the MSM because there’s nothing about that can be dismissed as “conspiracy theory.”
https://youtube.com/shorts/jDt1PqKuJeQ?si=Fe0MQoB2lz2bb4tc
I won’t take up space on Off-G so here’s a link to a series of stories I’ve written – the upcoming one to watch will be “Hawaii’s Tech Billionaires A Deep State Front.”
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Frankly I won’t waste my time. I stopped here because the words above those asterisks went into pending. Why, therefore, promote Off-G from below the line.
If you want to know what is happening you don’t gravitate to The Guardian or Off-Guardian because they cover essentially the same topics, or more crucially, avoid the same.
You need to look further afield.
Moneycircus Substack is my own den. Visit at your peril. Or don’t.
True colours being shown here.
The old genie (djinn) and its magic lamp trick that Disney uses to such good effect on the young, and not so young: make a wish young materialised soul and all material riches will be yours.
Very tempting to a first grader in need of more lollies / sweets / candy / a seat at WEF and other Crown parties.
Mr. Hayen, I hope you know how much you are appreciated. I look forward to your posts very much. You are a great voice in this world.
Thank you so very much Debra…I so much appreciate your comment. Join us at http://www.shrewviews.com if you haven’t already…and of course keep reading Off-Guardian! It is such a wonderful mixture of many views and perspectives!!
I can’t help myself but suspect that those driving the trans-humanism agenda are descendants of the ancient astronauts, those first perceived to be gods from the heavens. They were the ones who created human beings through genetic engineering and cross breeding – the biblical Nefilim. They are the ones who established “kingships” and a privileged class to subdue the rest of the humans.
We were slaves to them then and still are today.
But this is 2000-3000 maybe 5000 years ago. So you say they are still here subdueing us??
God left us with these Aliens for 5000 years??? So All the Alien movies were TRUE reality.
I cant believe it.
It means we have to fight ourselves out of this mess, all by ourselves with NO help. This is reality!.
The MSM push ancient aliens and the whole idea happens to be remarkably congruent with the Gnostic worldview that this is a prison planet.
Read Zecharia Sitchin’s The Earth Chronicles. All fully referenced and with evidence from archaeologists and scholars of every kind throughout the centuries, and amply illustrated from ancient documents/clay tablets.
I’m about two thirds of the way through Book I (The 12th Planet) of VII atm. A bit of a slog to be sure but so interesting.
I think those who push the trans-humanist agenda are horribly misguided people who totally misunderstand the very concept of robots and artificial intelligence and the like. First off, they see robots and AI as something sublime and wonderful when it’s nothing but Tinker Toys on steroids. Then they come to see it as superior to the workings of a human.
Robots never die, they seem to believe. Never mind they run out of battery power eventually and have to be “buried.”
The old conundrum “Do you own your possessions or do they own you?” perfectly explains the love affair with machines by some.
Robots never die, just like corporations. Hmmmmm.
Lot of truth, there, in your message. [However meta-synecdoche that Mythos, just how to scan it, entirely?] And there is even more Truth in its antidote, a very ancient passage I heard the other morning, “He led me out of bondage to a place of freedom, because He took delight in me.” Awesome egalitarian text. But an outcome never easily come by, howsoever equaled. Am I right, youse? [DISCLAIMER: rhetorical question, yet not a rhetorical quest.] You know it, peoples! [CAVEAT DUCTOR: the profusion of counterfeiters and impersonators (“impressionists”?) policing the boundaries of the Divine, and with such, our souls: The Man from Nazareth warned His merry band of Cross-bearing brothers: “Stay Awake!” I don’t know about you, but I read in that: they were already newly awakened but the weight of sustained consciousness was a load. A cross? So many others were asleep, and that seems like a crushing… Read more »
If metaphysis is invisible, like electricity (you can’t see it but you can prove it is there), why does it have to have an objective foundation to be considered real?
There are plenty of invisible things people don’t understand, this does not make them unreal, or even not real, it just make them impossible to understand objectively.
Sort of like I quit going to the doctor b/c he didn’t understand me, that doesn’t mean I want him to try to control me b/c he doesn’t understand me, but he didn’t see it that way so I said F* him, and good luck understanding me.
Many “unseen things” before “science” proves they were material were thought to be metaphysical forces—spiritual, of God, magic, etc.. Anything today that is “unseen” and considered “mysterious” is put into the box of “promissory materialism” which means “one day we will see that this too is material”—this is the “great error” I am writing about. Anything the scientists are certain is not material (for example, unicorns, elves, or God) is trashed and proclaimed to not exist. Also, “understanding” something is different from “reducing a thing to its smallest material components” and determining it is of material origin—you can not “see” something, and also not “understand it” but still claim it exists within the material definition of nature. “Understanding” implies we know how something functions. We don’t have to know how the material world functions (or a small element of that world). Scientists tell us that even though you may not… Read more »
The only things invisible on any level are our thoughts (despite how neuro-scientists explain thinking). The great awakening – perhaps the greatest in human history – occurred when gravity waves were finally discovered. This meant that something even materialists and “scientists” assumed to be simply a “force” was actually a material concoction; and it was only because it could not yet be detected that it was dismissed as a “force.”
Again I think we constantly should remember that math and physics are invented language to try to explain our universe.
Therefore we have endless academic discussions within science on which language concept should be used on this and that.
Whether you call it a force or a material concoction I see the influence on every things movement as the same:
When you smash the ground you do it with average 9,8m/s*s. When you walk or run you glue to the soil within the same average. When you build houses, you calculate their density accordingly to meet sufficient contra force in the ground.
In space travels for sun bathing on the surface of the sun it may be more important to get a more precise definition than force.
Every scientist ever worth his salt has always emphasized that mathematics and other scientific descriptive languages are just that
“… The fitful tracing of a portal…”
[As the New Haven poet Wallace Stevens elegantly versed it in his wondrous The Idea of Order at Key West”]
“When you jump off a height you never break the law of gravity. You prove it.”
That too.
“…it is your connection to your soul and the Divine that is your greatest protection.”
Those I most revere will maintain it’s our only protection. I don’t say that just to be doctrinaire, but to suggest that really all the other past avenues of exit are being closed.
Brings us to the greatest blessing of these times: that we are being shown ever more graphically and inevitably, what has always been the truth: that there is only one directional way out?
Escape to the Truth. What a fresh concept.
[Ed.: Tried to bold Mr Hayen’s quote but it did it to mine instead. O well, on this device such things can’t be altered in “save”. Who am I to argue with the software.]
And your words SHOULD be bold…very well said.
Here’s the great irony – the materialists insist that their behemoth of lies is the “real world”. Increasingly, the scales are falling from everyone’s eyes and the spells of cults past are being broken one by one. No one believes MSM’s lies, two party lies, medical industry lies, foreign policy lies, religious lies (like being told the world should serve you). It’s a good thing, actually. People are coming out of a deep stupor of indoctrination, like those duped by Scientology and similar cult followings.
Our reconnection is to Divine Nature, this living Earth that always strives towards balance, regeneration, consciousness refinement and the discovery (remembrance?) of our natural pristine state.
The phrase ‘spiritual war’ has been popping up a lot lately, which I see as a good sign, it means people are waking up. I can say, from a personal perspective, that there are things which hide at the edges, in the shadows. I know this from my own experiences, so it’s good to see people beginning to see reality for what it is; more than simply what they want it to be.
Well hell, reading too much into this. It’s some humans with power using their power for control over other humans. It’s up to some of us other humans to stop those humans because most other humans don’t give a shit or are too stupid to know what’s going on. If we are going to fight THEM, we better get on it, cuz THEY’RE kicking our asses.
The problem is that both groups of humans, “us” and “them” are 99.9% puppets of the same forces power, money and sex. From Bill Gates to poor bastards. From China to Amerrika. It all depends how much we identify with our comfy cradle ego vs our tiny soul baby. To switch over from the ego to the soul we have to let go attachments to the Dominant Trio mentioned before. Our human mind cannot get us out of this swamp similarly to the ape pulling itself out by its hairs from is lower animal state. The only drive can be offering of up our cozy cradle for something totally else. Wanting and willing to forgo on that dated bouncy check being dazzled before our eyes hourly from ads and other prop. Not easy, as in hard to kick off from crack cocaine, easier when it becomes Fentanyl = sure death.
Absolutely, Todd! What cannot be seen — or is seen only in glimpses in this life — is real. This spiritual world is divided between those on the side of good and those who on the side of evil (Satan if you prefer). And my fear is that many people, especially among the rich and powerful, have decided to support the source and the force of evil. They have power to shape the world we live in. The Bible verse you cite is certainly apropos, but it is not we alone who fight against this evil using our own strength. If we believe that we will soon wilt in despair and frustration at the scope of the battle. There are many scripture verses that assure us that the ultimate source of life and all that is good, that is God, is with us, fighting with us. So let’s keep on… Read more »
The Bible? Give me a break. Update yourself.
With what? I am pretty well-read in philosophy and have encountered some pretty good ideas and tools for life there, but turn to the Bible for spiritual truth. Yes, there are passages in it that I don’t understand (yet) or that challenge me. But I’m not looking for simple, easy answers, but for truth. What alternative source do you suggest?
And Todd also quotes scripture. I guess you take issue with him as well? That’s fine, hold whatever views you like, but don’t tell me I should “update myself.”
There is no written word from which absolutely nothing of value can be gleaned. Even “Jack and Jill ran up the hill” can inspire someone somewhere (a Zen master perhaps?)>
“The adventure of consciousness” by Satprem
A. What’s with all the boring philosophy articles, short on actual facts? I guess late August is a slow news day.
B. “Sheep” is the wrong name for them. They are in reality very uncooperative. Because they know everything already and their minds cannot be changed. More like a herd of cats.
Herding cats – anon [aka: JS]
Wrangling ants – David Lynch
Pied Piper – rat-a-tat-tat: pedophile or pragmatic opportunist?
All that matters is the right bait, and you can corral anything or, anybody, including cats.
Point A is sort of an oxymoron. Obviously you don’t get it. Read a little Nasseim Haramein. Foster Gamble is a great source too combining science with metaphysical. Sorry but it’s actually an amazing road to travel, of course grounded as well. Many of us, in retrospect, were more attuned to the metaphysical since we were young. Now, having studied extensively, meditated, having incredible experiences throughout our lives we straddle a line between both. Really it’s as simple as being aware and noticing.
Dont you get possibly, Reading is in Carlisle I’d rather spend time experiences of realist and Ward off devious lack of knowledge generalisng self dictionaries. Time is short before we reach a…fourth continuum, herebye well known to US Americans. The actual Mass publication of our Isles Culteral People in Oxford Cambridge.
Limiting oneself to realistic experiences is all well and good for those with the means to expand their range of reality. For those lacking such means, or those not knowing where to even begin such a journey, reading is far more than a waste of precious energy.
Quite right Joe, we don’t have square eyes.
LOL, why insult cats? Cats are not sheep in that they do not easily herd, and they very rarely, if ever, do as they are told to do. These people are not cat like in that respect at all. As for being sheep, while I too use that term sometimes, the idiots who go along with this are a whole new breed in and of themselves, a created breed used by our owners to do their bidding. Comparing them to animals is highly insulting to the animal kingdom.
Cats are the most amazing creature. A cat dont fear anything nor anybody.
A normal cat is full of good practical jokes and care, easy to keep.
Don’t be reincarnated here, on Earth.
Go elsewhere.
Oceans Land Sea Air although for some quite a crackpot calling for a bucket of head symbols. Lol!
Thanks again, Todd. I’d like to add that I have observed and noticed the growing tendency among people I know, of the type whom you refer to as “Shrews,” towards a more intuitive and spontaneous grasp of reality which I identify, differentiate and characterize, not as “irrational,” but as “non-rational,” which seems to correspond with your description, and can be experienced and applied to any field of endeavor, from art, to science or business, or anything else in between, anything anyone does, really. Intuition, and trusting it, seems to be the first thing deliberately beaten out of us. It’s not easy to recover such hidden treasure, but it’s there, within everyone’s reach, the more we learn to SHUT UP AND LISTEN! welcome and actively cultivate it’s return, and stop thinking and regarding communication as limited to language in the form of words and speech. Think of all the things in… Read more »
We can keep circling the drain. Or we can evolve. And that evolution is not a transformation to machines. Except in the minds and decision making of the 1% who’ve been given the keys to drive this planet as they see fit… for only themselves. And that evolution is not dripping back into superstitions to explain the nightmare surrounding Humanity in 2023, as works of spiritual good vs spiritual evil. In Eastern metaphysics there is no good or evil as original intent. Manifestations of life are Universe’s operating system as it evolves and unfolds like the lotus blossom. Humanity’s problem is to understand the results of Universe operating, and consciously move through it with intent that manifests the maximum beneficial evolutionary intent of Universe, for Humanity and for the entire Earth ecosystem. Why would Universe evolve to destroy it’s creation? The Universe evolves to, imho, manifest self-consciousness and self-awareness. It… Read more »
The problem of evil is much bigger than 1 %.
Too true. A lot of blame across the board. But they may rate 99%. A lot of poor judgement anyway, while we crave more good.
Great comment and much food for thought. I was there for the Thatcher/Raegan “new individualism” and brother, after the dust had settled, “we, the people” loved it. “Possessive individualism”, “authoritarian populism”, “the great moving right show” were some of Stuart Hall’s ideas for the time; but that did not halt the momentum. “The problem with socialis is that you soon run out of other people’s money” killed social-democracy with an acerbic quip. Thereafter: “There is no society, just a man and his family” — TINA. The problem with neoliberalism is that you cannot run out of money you created ex nihilo; but you can never, ever pay off the principle. Thereafter: SAPs and debt-enslavement of whole nations shaped the modern world. So we are stuck in our neonatal neoliberal age for some time yet; circling the drain or disappearing down the plughole of kakoeconomics? We are object-obsessed and growth-obsessed peur… Read more »
There is nothing metaphysical about infinite growth. I think your mixing up metaphors a bit. Eastern metaphysics is definitely moral as would any vision of moving through life with respect for Universe. Those who exploit any and everything in a quest for any and everything have no respect for Universe and are a dangerous aberrant that will be throttled eventually by Universe if not Humanity first. Buddhists like Feinstein’s husband Richard Blum of CRE buying up histroic USPS buildings fame, justified their behavior thru the cult’s supposed non-judgementalism. This is disrespect of Universe that speaks poorly of, and does not represent the eastern metaphysics I know from Alan Watts and Zen. A great book from 1980 from Fritjof Capra, a UC physicist, “The Turning Point” compares the discoveries of modern physics to eastern metaphysics and applies these ideas to nonlinear problem solving as solution to the Cartesian linear problem solving… Read more »
In any diurnal period the whole of humanity are actively engaged in economic activity — contituting the global economy — engaged in activities that are ultimately destructive of the earth. If you want to exclude the indigenous folk, that’s 7.5bn microeconomic agents of destruction. Not only can all 8bn of us, the supermajority of which are active now, accomplish this labour alone, we need to augment our muscle power by consuming 100mn barrels of oil per day. As previously shown, at 8 years of labour per barrel, that is a an 800My surplus to our labour power, all to meet the demands of our ego. In one of his more lucid moments, Lacan expressed it thus: Demand — Need = Desire Which D&G called surplus “desiring-production”. We create demands for stuff way beyond the earth’s capacity to sustain: thus we are creatively destroying the earth right now. It is not… Read more »
Highfalutin inversion of what I’m pointing out with a giant lie cherry on top! You are a psyop! Go back to your lab, grab your spook’s paycheck and find somewhere else to water down and pollute. It won’t fly here. We check sources and don’t name drop contemporary philosophers like chocolate syrup. Her book’s message is how to transform the Earth from inhabitable to habitable as fast as we can.
The Great TurningJoanna Macy
Joanna Macy: The Great Turning is a shift from the Industrial Growth Society to a life-sustaining civilization.
https://www.ecoliteracy.org/article/great-turning
Your confusionist system op is not wanted here.
You could have pointed out the typo without the invective; simple mistake. Thanks for the correction. Sorry to bother your day.
That was no “typo”. That was sentences of obfuscating baloney. Go away psyop.
“The problem with socialism is that you soon run out of other people’s money” That’s so typical of that Wicked Witch of the West and her broom shtick. As such they try incessantly to cast spells on the weak-minded, only in a culture and “slave economy” such as MLK called the USA Inc methodology, could you get away with such an inversion of the economic truth. It is really profoundly true of the capitalism that evolved into the insatiable worldwide beast that it now is. “The problem with (predatory) Capitalism is you eventually run out of other people’s money.” Nothing more to heist, so then they come after the humans themselves, as the last commodities to hold hostage.* What else? That’s what transhumanism’s all about. I saw an NYT article 15 years ago about efforts by a certain corporation to patent eye colors. MAGGIE’S PUNISHMENT SHOULD BE TO WRITE ENDLESSLY… Read more »
Thank you!
Metaphysics lite: I’ve already mentioned that the alienated and alienating soul-image has despotic and political control of the body; that the body is the subjected organ and instrument of the soul, and that oikonomia means that despotic command and political control means permanent economic enslavement – by a metaphor? Actually, if anything, it is a metonymy; and further, it is a synecdoche as a reductive control-mechanisation of the body by the “soul-synecdoche” as the essence of economic and biopolitical control of the body-as-body; but never the individual body-as-body – the entire species-being as ensouled by a vast array of metonymy and cognitive metaphor (Nietzsche.) The soul is the worldsoul, the world order, the world movement, the perfections of our greatness and superiority and all that goes with the overinflated species-psychosis that is destroying this inferiorised world in imitation of a new order, a new way of being, a new economic… Read more »
The soul is not the problem. The problem is in the enemy of the soul, also known as ego.
The ego is the devil, under command of the Devil itself. While the soul is eternally connected with God.
As the story of Prometheus tells it, the question is not whether the ‘fire’ is evil, but whether we are ready for it, or receive such a gift at the right time. The ego is by no means ‘the devil’, nor is it the enemy of the soul, but part of it. It is the place where we decide which parts of our personality are in control of other parts, or where we decide whether or not to become slaves of certain aspects of our own selves. (That short summary is not intended to imply that this is a trivial matter, by the way) Of course the ego can do as much damage as fire can, if it is not given due respect and put in a context which makes sense – for example a context in which it is conceived as evolving along with the rest of our soul,… Read more »
The ego is that which grasps, out of fear of change. The devil is a metaphor.
The ego can also grasp out of desire for change.
“Sex” may be a metaphor, but the Devil is not. There is one. Denial of that reality has become one of our biggest problems. The wide open back door to all the false programs.
Anyone who has seen blatant evidence of demonic activity knows well enough that there is more at “work” than anything simply human. It is outside the context of that, for real.
We might recall CS Lewis’ great “manual for tempters” written by the accomplished devil Screwtape in his Letters to his nephew Wormwood, enrolled in Tempter’s Training College, something quite like:
“There are two basic methods we use: outright terrorism, or discouraging altogether any belief that we exist.”
You can find in that a vivid contrast and compare between old school German Nazism and the kind mostly used by USA Inc., at least ostensibly. (When not pinning terrorist psyops on the commies in our midst…)
The ego is the face we present to the world. Everybody does it. The ego is not the problem. The shadow. e.g. the suppressed aspect of the ego is the problem and shows up as wild animals and demons in our dreams who theaten to attack us. The wild animals and demons disappear out of our dreams once we lose all fear thereby integrating the shadow. Then we can leave the ego behind and our sense self undergoes a change to the centaur, e.g. the mature adult. From there we have the potential to evolve into enlighted beings and realise that our bodies are space and time suits. To be enlightened means the end of suffering and the loss of fear. This evolutionary process of consciousness is supposed to begin at birth and ends at death of the body, after which we return to our origin in the Light. Our… Read more »
Ego is the problem. This shadow stuff in new age nonsense.
No, it’s straight outta CG Jung and his work and nomenclature for the collective unconscious . It is a reality he demonstrated, and it surely bears descriptions.
Nonesense; there is neither soul nor ego; they are just names we give the unconscious narratisation in the head. The fact is that the work of desire production and consumption requires every-body and that is irreducible. The terminological difference makes no difference as to whether it is the worldsoul, worldpsyche, or worldego in motion right now as anthropogenesis. If it don’t reduce, it is a singularity. So is there one person in motion now, or many? Everybody knows the true answer, but they reject it. That repudiation of life is what we call the psyche; but really it is just the language in the head. The dominant language is neoliberal, so who wants an unconscious neoliberal narratisation in the head? Nobody, so we personalise it instead. The language is not the body: the language is a reduction of the body to a complex of words we call the self. Sometimes… Read more »
Lol, please tell me you are human, fallible & I’ve not misunderstood Amot😂 as a typo, for Amor Fati… Doe, Ray, Me, Far, So-Lar, Tea dough, nuts, scones & well, Berliners for Nietzsche’s generation, I guess… JFK loved being one.
Mi Amore begins within, like respect, in every direction.
Especially, for fine food, drink & music 🎶 to my ears,
that we share for a collective joy & appreciation,
In recognition of Ubuntu, Bryan; I gave up long ago
Trying to accommodate & align myself to the
Global market economy, preferring not to, 🥑
Unless needs be. For the love of one’s fate:
Think global,
Drink local,
Shoot me,
Amor Fati.
Balky
I describe the world, not myself. There is no personal self-usage of the language. That don’t mean that there is not a world of experience and life: it just means that the language is something alien to that. The self is personalised occupation by a very fucking evil culture I also rejected about 1970 something. I pretty much ignore anything verbalised in the head ever since, and always will.
However; that is not true of the world we live in. I also teach meditation because thinking is not separation from the world, its colonisation by the dominant culture. And that does my head in!
Amor fati and fuck colonisation by the language.
Thanks: big of you Bryan. I always felt I understood the core essence of your ’embodiment’, many years ago & can relate, completely.
No need for further words, the language never suffices.
Wishing you all the best
& especially healthy thoughts,
Beyond Mark Strand &
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” Keeping Things Whole ”
” In a field
I am the absence
of field.
This is
always the case.
Wherever I am
I am what is missing.
When I walk
I part the air
and always
the air moves in
to fill the spaces
where my body’s been.
We all have reasons
for moving.
I move
to keep things whole.”
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Easy to remember,
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Balkydj
man… for someone with no soul, you sure write like someone who’s soul yearns never to be understood. communicate with other actual people much..?
Right now there are ~4bn microeconomic agents working; in the 24hr period, that’s 8bn (if you want to exclude indigenous folk, that’s 7.5bn). That activity does not reduce down to anybody in particular — hence the idea of the ‘soul’ is irreducible from the worldsoul. The worldsoul — psyche tou kosmoun — is world ordering or worldbuilding as demiourgic — or did nobody else read Plato or Plotinus.
I’m not the one trying to make out that there are 8bn different souls, or any of the rest of it. The activities we partake in are metaphysical, but they are some way from rational. If the metaphysics requires our full earth-dominant activity, it can hardly be an option or remedy; thereafter — it is the metaphysics of destruction we need to escape, which is the literal antithesis of what is being said.
It is really quite simple as too what is going on in the world…the 👃 is running the show!
This kind of belief isn’t new, it was very popular a hundred years ago certainly in British society and probably elsewhere in Europe and the US. It seems to pop up whenever organized religion becomes less influential and tends to be discouraged by ‘the powers that be’. I don’t know what to make of it myself, in my world we have people as diverse as H.G. Wells and Alistair Crowley as believers. As a scientist / engineer I don’t believe in anything as such but at the same time I also don’t dismiss the unexplained out of hand. History is littered with examples of phenomena that people could only explain in magical terms which subsequently turned out to be rather ordinary phenomena. Arthur C Clarke put it as “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic” which is a bit sweeping — not everything out there is ‘technology’, that’s just… Read more »
A lot of spirtual/metaphysical systems advocate for a life of poverty.
Christ too. “Sell all you have, give it to the poor, and follow me”.
Yep. Fundamental to Christianity.
I dont recall who, but it says math and physics is a language invented to understand the universe.
Trying to understand the metaphysics, you use math and/or physics to frame it, make it understandable for those who are not able to just sense it.
Can you approve that one?
There is a kind of spiritual Dunning–Kruger effect where people who are disconnected from higher realms of spirit are unable to see anything beyond the physical, and thus assume the better-connected are either lying or deluded or both.
Regarding flat earth: that was a useful linearization that served people who would never travel more than 50 miles from their birthplace. It doesn’t serve us in the 21st century for obvious reasons. However, physicalism is itself a metaphysical linearization of a far more complicated topology of vastly higher dimensions. I would argue that since about 2012, certainly 2020, the linear model no longer serves us and we will need a much better map of our metaphysical condition than we’ve had for the last 500 years or so.
I see flat earth pop up as flat screen today. Flat earth is 2-dimensional, Flat screen is 2-dimensional. Both synthetic reality. If your mind read earth flat you read the world false, say synthetic. Remember The Pope waited a thousands years before the Vatican gave up and admitted the earth was a globe, say 3-dimensional. Self-evidently we can conclude the Pope cant have had much contact with the Lord nor appointed to replace him here on earth, if he was so silly to believe the earth was flat for so long. “The war is between 2 timelines: Organic humans or Synthetic humans.” Thanks to Todd Hayen for this article hit bulls eye. I can confirm the fear disappear when you align with cosmos. You get your instinct back. You connect with all organic. Did you know your plants follow you spiritually when you are out of house and can even… Read more »
bravo
I saw an iguanu in the Pantanal wetlands last month. I first saw iguanus in Mexico in 2018.
The physical universe is all we have and it is amazing. There must be forces outside the physical realm. Perhaps shaping and influencing it. The wonders of the physical world – the hummingbird for example point to a basically benevolent and beautiful force with it’s end point in the wonders of the physical world.
Iguana. Supposedly tastes like chicken. Makes sense if dinosaurs were birds.
Unable to see, or in denial? Another possibility. Seems likely.
‘There was a time when people believed the earth was flat (cynicism intended).’
Unclear. Where’s the cynicism?
Are you saying water bends? Or doesn’t?
For argument’s sake, study the tranquil pool. Can you imagine water — under any circumstances — seeking any state other than flatness? How? Where? On earth?
Let’s extend it. Imagine that pool being 10 miles long. Do you think anywhere along those 10 miles the water would bend?
Or look at it this way: imagine a line being “drawn” between the two bottoms and ends of the pool. At the midway point (five miles) do you really think you’d have to drill up some 40, 50 feet to reach the center of the pool?
I think it’s time we started re-thinking everything. Just like they don’t want us to.
For you, and other flat earthers, it was cynical to say “there was a time” …maybe I am not using “cynical” correctly, I often seem to not understand the English language very well, as has been pointed out.
You are contributing to the very helplessness you speak of. (You. A shrink.) Where did I say I’m a flat earther? Nowhere. In fact, in the premise I gave I presumed the earth was round.
‘The Metaphysical as a Rational Option.’ But where does that leave critical thinking? You failed to address my point — no different than criticizing Obama and having someone say, “I didn’t know you were a Trump support.” Stop talking to THIS guy.
I will ask you directly: if you were to “draw” a line between the two bottoms and ends of a 10-mile pool, do you believe at the midpoint you would have to drill up 30, 40, 50 feet or so to reach the center of the pool?
Sorry Nich, I dont understand what you mean either.
Your tranquil pool doesnt exist. If you say tranquil pool, you must be a flat earth because that what it is,
Water move after gravity. All right you put water into a quadratic box. So f…… what?
It cant be everybody’s fault we dont understand your weird example.
Okay, how’s this: when the (liquid) cement was poured to make this 10-mile pool, six inches throughout, did the cement curve too? Both before it cured and after?
Tranquil pool doesn’t exist??
Alright, now you’ve drawn me into the fray also. When you originally said “pool” I assumed you meant a naturally occurring body of water. Now you bring cement into the picture; so obviously you’re speaking of a man-made “pool.”
A 10-mile stretch need not show any curvature at all. So it’s not the best example. Although if you drained the water and rolled a ball from one end to the other, would that ball reach a point (which need not be in the exact center) where it would, first, begin to slow then suddenly pick up speed? That would indicate a curvature too fine for someone to see but not too fine for a ball to be impacted by.
‘A 10-mile stretch need not show any curvature at all.’
Maybe not show. But would curve. Would have to.
Even Light curves within water, based on a sphere…
Think Fibre-Optic cables & sea beds… let alone HFT
Transmissions within The City of London’s Square Mile,
Outside U.K. Jurisdiction. Aladdin knew this,
Even before Blackrock !
Everything in nature curve. The straight line is man made.
Let us say 2000 km rectangular pool/basin. When you go with your instrument km by km your measures and water will be straight but curved after the gravity of the earth.
The 2000 km line will be curved seen from space, but straight seen from your side.
I think it is Einstein’s relativity theory. Everything is relative depending from where you see it.
The reason it is named cynicism, is that they could/should have known better, and people were killed and prisoned for claiming the true matter. This is cynicism not?
So what do you want and what do you mean? There is no up or down in your writing.
‘be straight but curved after the gravity of the earth.’
So water isn’t always flat. (‘Straight but curved?”)
Given the earth is spherical, there would of course be a top and a bottom. On the bottom: the southern Pacific. That’s a lot of water. Gravity too would keep the southern Pacific to the earth? And round?
What about the dried palm frond blown into the air on that island five feet away? Why no gravitational forces on that?
No up or down in my writing — thank you. That’s what I’m seeking w this. Like water seeks flatness.
Yes. This top and bottom we call arrow height, from the cord top to the bottom line. Our universe: Our universe or our sun system is build around the sun. The earth circulate around the sun with 107000 km/hr and take a year to get around. When the earth is going around the sun, the earth circulates around itself providing night and day. While the earth circulates around itself going around the sun, the moon circulates around the globe and pulling in the globe upwards with the moons gravity, providing low on the far side and high on the front side of earth to the moon. All the other planets in our sun system is regulating planets keeping the earth and moon in place in relation to the sun. This whole system moves forward in a milkway like a coupled plasma of magnetic fields. Now, the moon’s pull in the… Read more »
He’s confused something, with something, likely homegrown. Ironically, yesterday afternoon I was on the Island of Langeland, South of Fyn, looking East towards Bornholm: Studying 3 separate wind-farms @sea level, with differing sea mileage to each & the respective shipping routes. The nearest & furthest out to sea, had the highest Propeller Heads. The nearest to land and second furthest had ‘lower’ Propeller Heads The furthest away, between the two fields, and importantly, over the horizon, had no identifiable towers rising from the sea bed at all: and indeed, I could only see 2 of the 3 rotating Propeller blades, at any one time, because of the curvature of the sea surface area in my Direct field of vision, with & without binoculars, South of Bagenkop.The Moral of this true story is, never allow yourself to get involved in silly unscientific conversations, unless you suffer fools gladly ! 😂 The… Read more »
I use it as training my communication skills with fools because there are so many.
You have to get around them somehow. Its a trick I learned from third countries ;-).
Yes, in real life everything is revealed. 🙂
The last 3 years I think it’s safe to start all over with ‘trust the science’. Maybe FE was the first great psy op. Dont try and Trade over there, you might fall off. The parasite class was already there, from cannan/ tyre/ Sidon/ Phoenician navy. When they realised it
Was fake they came up with the globe
Psy op so they could NASA us dry$$$$$ and seperate us from a creator- all
Is meaningless when your spinning 1000kmh and hurtling through “space” at 60,000mph.
“True civilisation is not steam nor gas nor nuclear power; true civilisation is concerned to diminish the traces of original sin” — Charles Baudelaire.
Good one.
Baudelaire lived from 1821 to 1867. Surely he could not have known about nuclear power?
The moral is timeless but I thought I’d update the technology to relate to our 21st C.
Naughty boy. Next time you will read Moses walked on the moon to make it fit in.
Sorry just seen this, wondering if others have. Been coming here since beginning of cocos: reading comments mainly at that time. I remember people saying it couldn’t be isolated at that time. Just come across this on tik tok it looks legit due to the references to journals he makes.. what to you all think please?
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGJtBK8qb/
He says icovid been around since the 60s. Also talks about it being used as a mind control. How the vaccines will never work because Covid continues to change.
You can depend on Dr.David Martin. Among his many qualifications is that he has been called “an old Covid Conspiracy Theorist” by Main Stream Media who are busy promoting the false Con-19 “narrative”. Yes, the Covid flu virus has been around for millions of years in humans and other animals, and is responsible for about 20% of human flu cases. We have learned to live with flu, and the flu virus has learned to live with us — that is our Natural Immunity. But what Dr.Martin has revealed is that, since 1960 Military Defense Laboratories — especially in the United States — have been trying to turn Covid into a Bio Weapon by breaking down our Natural Immunity. The way they did this was to synthesize a GMO virus that contained a powerful Spike Protein — U$ Patent awarded to Moderna Pharmaceutical Company in 2016. This in the famous Spike… Read more »
The convid flu *virus* as you prats call it is the body going through a detoxification, virus theory is a very iffy subject.
You are only adding to the cacaphony. Just say “flu” instead of “covid”.
“Cacaphony”: from the Greek “Kaka” bad, and “Phono” sound.
“Covid” from the Greek “Corona” crown or “spike” plus English abbreviations “Vi” for Virus and D for disease. Hence “Covid”, a flu-like Disease caused by a Virus with a Crown (the “spike” protein). But there are plenty of other flu viruses around — the uncrowned viruses without spikes; Covid is only about one-fifth of our annual flu burden.
But Covid-19 is the only Corona virus whose crown bears an RNA sequence that reads: “Made in U$A”.
As we are the Soul, we can’t be separated from it. What the Devil has been trying to do, is to make us believe that the Devil is above God, or that God doesn’t even exist, or that God is evil. It’s all lies with the Devil.
All this is the Devil’s war against us, humans or humanity.
We are not at war.
We are in peace when we are in Spirit.
God is Above all and All-Powerful. That’s basically all we need, to be with That.
We cannot be separated from soul, but we can definitely think we are…i.e., we can believe there is no soul.
I believe it’s more complicated than that. For a start there is not only our evolution as a species to contend with, but also our individual self-conscious evolution. An individual at peace in the Spirit can be grateful for that gift, but he will not be completely at peace if he also knows that many others just as deserving as he – if not more so – have no access to the doors which open to that spiritual peace. Ignorance is not necessarily wilful. Some people with all the biological and mental facilities necessary for enlightenment are brought up in an environment where there is not a scrap of wisdom to be found. That can be a very hard path to travel. With spiritual gifts comes responsibility to others. We can’t just relax and say, “I have all I need.” Then there is the question of what it is that… Read more »
Striving toward the divine will always be eternal, as therein lies our seed to live forever.
I see Bill Gates as a primitive nerd. All his life has been devoted to flat screens, thus his born human abilities to connect with real life and cosmos has become nil.
But within his closed box he is probably a genius in synthetic math and physics.
“Primitive nerd” sums him up very well.
That said, I don’t think what goes on in his closed box comes anywhere close to ‘genius’ in anything.
For example, listening to him talk isn’t an enlightening experience for many informed people.
At any rate, my quick summary of his ‘net worth’ would be something like:
“After being born into considerable financial comfort, a lot of extra money subsequently came his way.”
That happens sometimes.
Like many others, he got lucky.
Not so lucky.
Ahem, he is neither a genius in Physics, nor Medical Science. Fact.
This he has proven openly, with very Public statements in both Fields !
In fact, he has proven himself a freakin’ Danger to all Humanity ! !
Actually Billy is just the opposite, he knows has no college education and really only worked on one thing, computers. So he admits he knows very little about so many different things, and now that he has the time to reeducate himself about some things and money to make improvements on those things, he has chosen, randomly as far as I could tell, certain things to contribute to. One of his projects was finding the raw material to power nuclear plants in Wyoming, instead of mining and transporting this raw material to be refined in some distant location and then transporting it again to be used somewhere, he decided it was more prudent to refine it at its source and build a power plant there so as to minimize the politics of transporting nuclear fuel and waste, and use the logic of if you build it they will come. I… Read more »
So, you trust him…
Okay, it’s a free world…
If someone does a lot, we should also appreciate those areas where it is helpful.
I havent seen this side of Billy described.
I mean rather than giving our thumbs only up or down of those someone. Both Stalin and Hitler had human sides.
We can appreciate Hitler’s oil paintings they are not too bad, and we can appreciate some of Stalin’s visions on governance as valid.
Im against one man is responsible for hundreds of million fool followers of the worst ideas.
Think about Trump had to bomb the desert and empty buildings to not lose 10% voters in the polls.
Metaphysics is not a synonym for spirituality. It merely offers an overview of material reality based on principles which both define and impel activities in the material world. In that context, it is very apparent that what is happening today represents not the End Times as postulated, e.g., in the Bible; but rather the end times of a particular species – i.e., humanity. It all has far more to do with Evolution than with the Supernatural. No devil, no demons, no dragons are needed to account for the rather rapid decline of the human intellect over the past fifty or so years. Every species that ever was went through, goes through, a cycle (cyclicity being the driving principle of just about everything in existence) from that species’ beginning to its inevitable end. The maniacs who have presumed rulership over the world do what they do because, being maniacs, they cannot… Read more »
Evolution is just a theory, and it’s not true. God is the Truth.
Do you serve the truth or a lie?
As so many have already pointed out, Evolution is not incompatible with the idea of God. It doesn’t need a divine beginning; but neither does it entirely rule it out.
evolution, in my opinion, has some truth to it, but the whole of it is erroneous.
GKC “There is something to be said for every error; but whatever may be said for it, the most important thing to be said about it is that it is erroneous.”
I don’t serve AI trolls.
Look up the definition of “theory” or tell your programmers to clue you in …
Could you please go away? That would be great and very respectful of human values.
PS Take God with you.
My reply to you of yesterday, on the Off-G article, “Let’s kill all the lawyers…” (of a few days ago) is now printed there.
I contend that we are evolving, despite the feeling that we are not. In the past, it was sufficient to use superstition and other fantasy to keep people from questioning authority. Then, science came along to dispel a lot of superstition. But then, science turned into it’s own superstition. Now we are learning what is real vs what is dogma, not just in religion, but science. The humans of today might be ignorant of many things, but the people of the past were more ignorant. That’s why we went from slavery, apartheid into a time where your race and creed is not the defining characteristic. Of course that was hijacked by the opportunists at every step. As we learn more about the corruption of authority and academia, we evolve. Meanwhile those who used religion, then science, to control us are not evolving but just pushing the same buttons they pushed… Read more »
Thank you for rationality that is actual spirituality. For me it is Universe’s pathway to consciously evolving. Both spiritually and intellectually. Cheers!
Is it we, as a species, who are evolving? Or is it instead our ideas that are evolving? Although it would be far more accurate to say our ideas are devolving.
Even belief in the Supernatural is far above the current belief in what is labeled “transhumanism.” I suspect if you could travel back in time to, say, very ancient times, and tell people they will eventually become one with their machines – they would kill you on the spot for your blasphemy.
Today, however, they would put in microphone in your hand and send you straightway to TED to tell the world of your great leap forward in human knowledge.
Were they? I’m not so sure.
Metaphysics is not spirituality, but spirituality is metaphysical…at least it can be.
Todd, you might be interested in this Gnostic text. I think I got the link from a commenter here at Off-G earlier this year. It talks about the Archon mind parasites that I believe have infected the human minds/souls. Carlos Castaneda called it “the topic of topics”. Paul Levy calls it Wetiko. As you quoted, it’s “the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.”
https://www.goldenageproject.org.uk/shop.goldenageproject.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Path-of-Light.pdf