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How Not to Launch a Global Anti-Censorship Movement

CJ Hopkins

So, I’ve been excommunicated from Michael Shellenberger’s global anti-censorship movement. It’s my own fault. I was sowing dissension. I engaged in harmful speech in the group chat. I was making people feel uncomfortable. I was not playing ball. I was not with the program.

The program, as you may recall, was launched in Westminster, London, in June, when Mike and Matt Taibbi and Russell Brand exposed the Censorship Industrial Complex …

…for 35 pounds sterling a head.

My readers may recall this piece I published about the secret gathering of journalists, authors, artists, academics, and activists that took place after that public event. I couldn’t say too much about it at the time, as we were operating under strict OPSEC protocols, and had taken oaths of silence, and so on, which, being excommunicated, I am no longer bound by.

I’m still going to be a little cagey, however, as there are a lot of people involved in Mike’s movement who I like and respect, and I don’t want to harm them with my dissension-sowing any more than necessary.

Also, before I make fun of Mike, and share my somewhat more serious thoughts about how not to launch “a free-speech movement,” I want to make it clear that I still support this campaign, and any other anti-censorship campaign, regardless of how flawed or supercilious it may be.

All right, let’s get down to it, shall we?

Mike’s movement is preparing to publish a declaration. It’s a good declaration. I contributed to it. I signed it, although my name will not appear on it now, as Mike has threatened to remove it if I published a piece like this. Mike is an extremely smart guy, but he doesn’t seem to get that I don’t respond well to threats … or, rather, that this is how I respond to threats. Or, who knows? Maybe he actually wanted me to publish this piece, and goaded me into it, which, I can see how that could be a shrewd PR move.

In any event, it’s a good declaration (or it was the last time I had access to it). There is nothing wrong with the declaration. What has taken up most of the last three months of the coalition’s time and energy, and has led to my excommunication, is the hunt for Very Important Persons to be included as signatories when the declaration is released.

Apparently, the way it works with such declarations and “open letters,” and so on, is that you write up your declaration or letter and then you try to get selected big shots to sign it in order to make it look more impressive to … well, whoever you’re trying to impress. The character of your big-shot signatories is critical, because the media, and “the court of public opinion,” and your potential major philanthropic backers, are going to judge you by the company you keep.

Mike’s anti-censorship coalition has been carrying out this process by “consensus,” under the watchful eye and firm hand of Mike. Mike is not the “leader” of this coalition, which is totally leaderless and democratic, of course. He is just the “facilitator,” who explains the objectives, makes the final decisions, polices people’s speech, and excommunicates suppressive persons whose dissension-sowing threatens to disrupt the “atmosphere of mutual respect” that Mike feels he needs to “maintain” in the group chat.

Yes, Mike has a little control-freak problem. Many non-leader leaders of “movements” do. If you’ve ever been involved in political activism, you know what I mean. If you haven’t, count your blessings.

Anyway, the Hunt for VIP Signatories has been awkward, due to:

  • (a) the need to maintain the appearance of “decision-by-consensus” in the coalition’s totally non-hierarchical group chat,
  • (b) concern among various coalition members about including “divisive” VIPs,
  • and (c) Mike’s behind-the-scenes machinations.

For example, at one point, I offered to contact one of the only VIPs I know to ask him for help with further VIP outreach. Mike jumped into the chat and quashed that idea, as I had made it clear that I was not willing to try to dictate to this Very Important Person who he should and shouldn’t reach out to for us.

Days or weeks later — I can’t remember exactly — one of Mike’s employees wrote to me sub rosa and gave me the secret go-ahead from Mike. So, I reached out to this VIP, who then reached out to some other VIPs, many of whom were happy to sign, and some of whom offered to help with further outreach.

Panic broke out at Coalition HQ. Some of the Very Important Persons that my Very Important Person had invited were potentially Divisive Persons, who hadn’t been vetted by consensus on the coalition’s VIP-vetting spreadsheet. (I kid you not, there’s an actual spreadsheet.) So, I was asked to reach out to my VIP and instruct him to cease and desist with further outreach before he reached out to further Divisive Persons, who might reach out to further Divisive Persons, at which point, everything might spin out of control! Needless to say, I declined to do that.

If you’re wondering about exactly who qualifies as a “Divisive Person” in the coalition … well, certainly not Very Important Persons like Richard Dawkins, who in 2021 compared folks who “refused” the Covid “vaccines” to “faith-heads releasing rattlesnakes in supermarkets”…

But later admitted that “mistakes may have been made” …

Or fanatical New Normalist Slavoj Žižek…

You can watch Slavoj getting extremely worked up in support of Covid “vaccine” mandates, and mocking people who care about “silly” things like their personal bodily autonomy, with Briahna Joy Gray in 2021, if you think you have the stomach for it…

VIPs like Dawkins and Žižek are not “divisive.” They are very important A-list persons who are committed to universal human rights, and freedom of speech, and all that kind of stuff, unless, of course, the authorities announce that they need to go full-blown totalitarian and lock down and segregate and censor everyone because of a virus with a 99.8% survival rate, in which case, you know, “Sieg fucking Heil!”

Russell Brand, however, is definitely “divisive.” You remember Russell Brand from that poster above advertising the big event in London, don’t you? Here’s our friend Russell Brand today…

The Russell-Brand-cancellation op was what sealed my fate with Mike’s free speech movement. I had been holding my nose for quite a while — for example, I never opposed having people like Dawkins and Žižek on the signatories list, as I understood the PR logic — and I was praying that none of the coalition members would bring up “the revelations” (as one of them put it), but the odds of that not happening were poor.

Sure enough, someone brought Brand up, and someone checked, and he had been asked to sign on, but as of Saturday he hadn’t responded, at least not according to the VIP-vetting spreadsheet. So that was obviously a huge relief. However, what if he responded now (i.e., post-“revelations”) and wanted to sign? Should he still be allowed to? A “risk assessment” was suggested.

And, OK, I got a little snarky and proposed that we skip the “risk assessment” and all the other PR-strategizing bullshit and just uphold the principles we are claiming to defend.

Whereupon Mike Shellenberger needed to reach me, urgently, presumably to shout at me and threaten me again. I’d had an earlier such phone call from Mike, when I criticized his sucking up to Elon Musk and suggested that it made us look not quite neutral. Mike called me at home, apoplectic, that time, and threatened to kick me out of the club if I didn’t toe the line, which I found sort of funny, and a bit disturbing, but nothing I couldn’t handle. I have known a lot of control freaks in my day. And Mike has done, and is still doing, a lot of great work. And we all have our character flaws, don’t we?

Anyway, I wasn’t in the mood for another screaming, threatening conversation with Mike, as I was still at my friend’s converted monastery in Italy, and I finally had a peaceful day to myself. (The Italian workmen who are jackhammering big holes in the monastery walls don’t work on the weekends.) I decided I would call him back later.

Next thing I knew, I was excommunicated.

I’m not a professional movement builder, but I’m pretty sure this is not how you do it. I don’t mean my excommunication. I mean the suffocating top-down micromanagement, and the PR-strategizing, and the VIP-idolatry, and the paranoia about alienating mainstream people who are going to be alienated anyway, regardless of how many Hollywood celebrities and Harvard professors you dangle in their faces. The simple fact is, playing by the rules of the system and the “reality” you claim to be opposing a recipe for failure. Or, worse than failure, a diversion, the simulation of success. Which is where I’m afraid Mike’s “movement” is headed.

Movements are not PR campaigns. Yes, of course, some PR is involved, but the masses are not your employees. And they aren’t CGI extras in your narcissistic movie. They are actual living, breathing people, people who do not need us to lead them. Basically, the masses don’t give a shit what Richard Dawkins and Slavoj Žižek endorse. The editors of “respected” publications like The New Yorker and The New York Times give a shit, but the masses don’t give a shit about them.

If you are going to “build a movement” to oppose the Censorship Industrial Complex (which Mike claims he wants to do), at some point, you’re going to have to alienate some of your friends and colleagues in NormalWorld and get your hands dirty and connect with the masses, or the “people that no one has ever heard of,” as Mike calls them.

The people that no one has ever heard of are not stupid. They know the difference between a serious anti-censorship campaign and a vanity project. There’s still time for Mike to turn this thing around, let go of the reins, stop sucking up to the mainstream establishment, and reach out to the masses. Honestly, I hope he will. I wish him and the London gang success. There are millions of people out there who would get on board with a grassroots campaign opposing the Censorship Industrial Complex, but, to get them on board, you have to let go of the wheel and let them steer the ship.

The irony is, when you’re “building a movement,” when you know you are succeeding is when you lose control of it, when the movement doesn’t need you to “lead” it, when it starts moving in directions you never imagined and starts doing things you never intended. But you can’t get there if you suffocate it in its infancy, if you are so obsessed with maintaining control that you snuff out every idea and impulse that doesn’t conform to your vision of it.

Mike means well. He’s got a good heart. And he’s a fighter. All of which I respect. I hope he can learn that lesson, quickly. Perhaps the thing he has set in motion will teach it to him as things progress. We could certainly do with an actual global grassroots anti-censorship movement. I hope Mike and the gang can unclench their anal sphincters a bit and help get us there.

Oh, and regarding Russell Brand. I don’t know Russell Brand. I have absolutely no idea what he has or hasn’t done. Neither do you, probably. Which is not the point. The point is the current global-capitalist crackdown on dissent, which is in full-swing. Russell Brand is just the latest head on a spike, alongside the heads of Assange, Snowden, Trump, Corbyn, Carlson, et al. They are greasing up a spike for Bobby Kennedy’s head, and the head of anyone else who challenges them, even people that no one has ever heard of, like me.

I think Max Blumenthal made the point succinctly…

…but, you know, Max is a Russian-sponsored, Covid-denying, conspiracy-theorizing, Trump-loving, transphobic, anti-Semitic Jew, who raped his neighbor’s hamster … or whatever. But then, who among us isn’t, these days?

CJ Hopkins is an award-winning American playwright, novelist and political satirist based in Berlin. His plays are published by Bloomsbury Publishing and Broadway Play Publishing, Inc. His dystopian novel, Zone 23, is published by Snoggsworthy, Swaine & Cormorant. Volumes I and II of his Consent Factory Essays are published by Consent Factory Publishing, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Amalgamated Content, Inc. He can be reached at cjhopkins.com or consentfactory.org.

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Big T
Big T
Sep 24, 2023 5:35 PM

People who believe that capitalism (the *free* exchange of goods and services) needs to be somehow controlled will always be tyrants. This actually includes you, even if you disagree with tyrant wannabe idiots like zizec and richard.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Sep 24, 2023 9:43 PM
Reply to  Big T

Serious? Wow, you got such a clue, impressive.

Let the mafias control the free flow of everything, instead, they do such a more decent job than the bureaucrats anyway, wherever they rule the roost.

What’s a little mayhem, trafficking, drug slavery, extortion, the occasional homicide?! At least it’s all total freedom from controls.

You are an absolute pundit! 👍

Oscar A
Oscar A
Sep 24, 2023 12:39 PM

This cannot be a movement, it must be a blow, cause there’s too many criminals involved, but one thing is for sure, I would never joined no new progressive international, or bernies movements of control opposition, and we need someones who’s not afraid to lose their benefits in the VIP world, a real movement from the ‘ground’ up.
How these ‘flaccid’ fellows gonna battle things with state sponsorship like the 77th brigade, or big corporations.
Everyday I respect you more CJ.

Stephen
Stephen
Sep 24, 2023 11:21 AM

Oh no! The Great co opting of 23, How many fractal identities are needed to sway the masses? Perception, perception, perception.
Inner peas please.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Sep 24, 2023 6:30 AM

Why does this header photo of Russell Brand look so very much like a kinder, gentler Charlie Manson??

The only thing absent is the crude swastika carved with a pen knife in the forehead. (There I go, violating the one protocol that holds our civilization together, such as it is, with my thoughtless mention of swastikas and their hapless connection to the 3rd Reich, if not All-American Langley, so I will soon be quarantined into a mandatory denazification program, just as soon as they apprehend me. Ich bin ein Berliner! Worked for Werhner von Braun, right?)

Maybe I have seen that bugeyed leering evil-eye posterized photo of Charlie just once or so too often in recent months, as I collect quite a stack of books while trying to grasp the ongoing significance of Roman Polanski’s never-ending plight, and the CIA/NAZI transgenerational “stiff one” for him.

Every time he begins a new CIA-themed, or Intel-relevant, movie, about every ten years, another dozen women come out of the woodwork to accuse him of rape, casting certain extra-judicial shadows on the occasionally seemingly clockwork mechanisms of MeToo shaming, as a “movement.” Not that they are. The timing just makes it seem that way. The vaunted movie criticism website “Rotten Tomatoes” gives his new film (debuting overseas only next week) “The Palace” …. a “0%” “fresh” rating, which I had yet to ever see there. 0%. His 2020 magnum opus “J’Accuse” (co-written with Robert Harris based on his 2013 “An Officer and a Spy” a rigorously historical novel, torn from the Zola-fied pages of L’Affaire Dreyfus) was blackballed in apparently all “NATO” nations, but for Italy and France, and only recently streaming here, 4 years delayed. Yet that one, even, was deemed 76% “fresh” there, based on reviews, and garnering a “Best Director” Cesar, and well-deserved at that.

In an obviously unrelated if surreal sense, it calls to mind a few of the aspects of the “movement” that got Mohammed Mossadeq toppled and put under perpetual house arrest in Iran in 1952, with so much help from placard-toting “Iranian” color revolutionaries, and as then astroturfed by CIA spymeister Kermit Roosevelt, per his own later gleeful sayso and boast.

But that’s just madness to think anything that farfetched, I surely must be working, or at least dissing, way too hard in all my conspiracy-hypothesizing, and rampantly.

But that wacko photo of Manson pops up in my mind, when I see this selfie here above, of Brand.

I am highlighting redundantly my Kindle of the 2020 “CHAOS‘ book by O’Neill, a work which stands “Vinny Bugs” (my wiseguyish sobriquet for him) and his “bestselling true crime story of all-time, Helter Skelter“, on their disgraced dog-ears.

In all of these recent revelations, though, there was little as enjoyable as reading of Charles Manson’s record producer connection, Terry Day (Melcher), bringing Charlie by Mom’s crib to meet her: Doris Day.

Her words, delivered in person there, to Manson’s face: “If you think I’m going to produce your record you’re out of your Effing mind!”

I would give almost anything to hear her sing that, with a Big Band backing.

Now that’s one Hollywood production devoutly to be wished.

£4£&$4$+my2¢™~~~

Nevertheless, it now appears that all the Manson kids, and Manson himself, were victims too, à la Sirhan Sirhan, of MKUltra “techniques.”

Programmed by ~dare I say it~ NAZIS.

What a world.

John Manning
John Manning
Sep 23, 2023 8:46 PM

Great piece Mr Hopkins. You cannot really be an American, you think and write well enough to be Irish. (The only true anarchists.)

Ian Bell
Ian Bell
Sep 21, 2023 11:00 PM

CJ hits the bulls-eye when he writes, “If you are going to “build a movement” to oppose the Censorship Industrial Complex…at some point, you’re going to have to…get your hands dirty and connect with the masses, or the “people that no one has ever heard of”.”.

To defeat the 0.1% psychopathic-parasitic class, there needs to billions of “no one has ever heard of us masses” working together with a common vision and direction. This is a numbers game; no large scale numbers on our part, no winning this war.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Sep 24, 2023 3:27 PM
Reply to  Ian Bell

Sure. But most of them, while yours or my back were turned, began “playing for the Team,” as Peter Matthiessen told his Parisian handler, when he himself quit playing, in the 1950s, there. (As “Mr. X” Colonel Fletcher Prouty put it, about a dozen years later: in his “tell-all” book titled: “The Secret TEAM” ~

Planning their “response” to this madness will not serve, mass “action” will not help, only an amalgam of all that, thru our very best spiritual tools, under God, can save the day.

So throw your old hat over that wall.

We ALL have common cause, not just the masses.

Be-cause, “The Cause is Humanity.”

(Mort Sahl, 1970)

Camille
Camille
Sep 21, 2023 3:04 PM

Great article generally. However for me there is one gaping hole. The problem is that the democracies in the Weffy West have been hijacked .. Before you used to be able to say pretty much what you liked..because we had a right to freedom of speech. That has now gone because the ” elected representatvies” are not representing us. That is the problem that we need to fix.I don’t know how.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Sep 24, 2023 4:01 PM
Reply to  Camille

They weren’t hijacked, they were repossessed.

The banksters’ way of doing to us what Fremont and the weffy Freemasons did to Mexico, or at least Alta California, 200 years back in the day, “We stole it fair & square.”

£4£&$4$~~~

Ben
Ben
Sep 21, 2023 1:16 PM

Trump, Corbyn, Carlson and RFK are all members of the good ship “THEY” and they are not on your side. None of them.RFK goes out of his way to say how he isn’t anti vax and then goes on to drool over the jews. What a wet wipe.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Sep 21, 2023 5:34 PM
Reply to  Ben

Well, RFK Jr. has an excellent strategy with his “I am not an antivaxxer rhetoric.” The second part of his statement is that he simply wants adequate and non-fraudulent testing and trials to prove that they are “both truly safe and effective.” Of course he knows that no vaccine has ever submitted data to the FDA for licensing which has been properly tested against a true saline solution placebo or long term health issues between the vaxxed and the voluntarily unvaxxed.. He knows all the current vaccines would fail this test. So this is a valid strategy to eviscerate the vaccine industry.

What makes me suspicious of RFK Jr. has been his pushing of “human caused climate change” up until about a year and a half. He is way to smart not to know that it is all dog shit. I subscribe to his CHD blog and he had been ridiculed heavily in the comments until he dropped this crap.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Sep 24, 2023 4:25 PM
Reply to  el Gallinazo

You have to believe that a lot of what he does and takes as stances is (most justifiably) strategic.

After all he just had to complain to the Secret Service that there was an armed man hanging out in some of his crowds!
Recurrently. Asking for some backup from them, during his speeches!

Given the way that, excepting Clint Hill, the Secret Service basically did absolutely nothing but stand down during his uncle’s slaughter 60 years ago in Dulles’ Dallass, you can’t really come down too hard on him for playing ANY of his cards strategically.

Maybe he’s trying a slightly different tack, as he also contemplates, even nearer to home, the results of what they did to his full-throttle father, and very namesake, 55 years ago. [I should know, I was campaigning for him, as a lad, through his nearby L.A. HQ that night!]

Camille
Camille
Sep 21, 2023 9:23 PM
Reply to  Ben

wHAT’s wrong with Carlson? ( I’m not saying Ilke him. I don’t know much about him). ( I agree that Trump and Corbyn are terrible. Dunno aout RFK.Thought he might be better than the other political leaders)

John Ervin
John Ervin
Sep 24, 2023 4:11 PM
Reply to  Ben

“Tucker Carlson” (an infant alumnus of my dinky prep L.A. grammar school Buckley ~ sorry, had to say it) was, with Imbecility and servility aforethought, hotly and heavy-breathfully campaigning 23 years ago to stop the Gore/Bush “Recount” with some of the most disgraceful and pimpish corporate cliches ever recorded.

Ah, but he has since evolved.

No doubt? Like a leopard changes its spots, with the latest fall fashions.

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Sep 24, 2023 5:03 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Leopards do not change their spots as far as I know, but some people do. I have gone from hard left progressive to anarcho-libertarian in the last 35 years for example. One way to try to ascertain whether the change is fake or real is to look at what they are doing besides their new found antagonism to the NWO. A good test case is Musk. While he bought out Twitter under the guise of free speech, he is being financed by the MIC in regard to SpaceX and Tesla Motors (regarding tax incentives for EV cars.) Even worse is his Neuralink, which primary goal is to turn every human on this planet into the Borg hive mind via xG and the Cloud. Additionally he appointed as CEO of Twitter a bitch who is in the right hand of the Anal Schwab, which will no doubt in time wipe out the even partial lack of censorship on Twitter..

Carlson, OTOH, has shown a definite shift over the years from the asshole, obnoxious, corporatist right, to libertarian, but being constrained by the fake libertarian Fox News. Since he left a few months ago, he has really thrown several monkey wrenches into the various official narratives. The one thing I find very suspicious about Carlson is his obvious embrace of the Orange Man. As CA Fitts pointed out to Trumptard Greg Hunter several months ago, Trump is either too stupid and incompetent to be president or is controlled opposition. There is no other way to explain his years as President.

Howard
Howard
Sep 24, 2023 5:06 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

Question: have you fallen through a time warp? I thought I was the only one who revisits articles from more than two days ago. Yet here you are posting comments on 9/24/23 on an article at least three days old.

Will you join me in a dish of 9-day old Pease porridge?

Camille
Camille
Sep 25, 2023 8:29 PM
Reply to  John Ervin

As you say 23 years ago. Maybe he has improved. I don’t know the particulars about these allegatiosn anyway.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Sep 27, 2023 9:11 PM
Reply to  Camille

To me, he just sounds like he’s reading from another script handed him, a little more nuanced than his 2000s version, but just a “variation on the [same old] theme.”

But there doesn’t sound like any fundamental change, just a “reinvention.”

Meet the new script,
Same as the old script.”

Whatever is new and also good, we wish him well.

May we all “evolve”!

Balkydj
Balkydj
Sep 21, 2023 1:00 PM

” Sieg fucking Heil ! ”
made me laugh like
George Carlin R.i.P. used ✌ to…

So glad you got your sense of humour back CJ: and stopped your inevitable inextricable decline and descent into the Underling’s Underworld Abyss of Authoritative Anachronistic
Antidisestablishment-Arianism of Arseholes & Arachnids of the spineless variety !

Good job, C.J. : who needs any re-Branding, when Dawson & Žižek have nailed themselves,
already, on the ‘cross’, above you, & Mike’s an intellectual hypocrite ? All you ever had to do was look up 👆 and watch the feral fecal load colliding with the rotating oscillator
& duck and dive for cover, whilst scribbling down the humour & irony of …
Moronic mouthpieces’ egos 😂 who lost the plot, completely.
Best wishes & keep on laughing
Balkydj

Beatriz
Beatriz
Sep 21, 2023 5:16 AM

I agree with you, CJ. But to imply that Trump and Carlson are true dissenters… come on!

John Ervin
John Ervin
Sep 24, 2023 4:48 PM
Reply to  Beatriz

CJH wasn’t trying to be too “inclusive” he was just pointing out that in this global fracas, sometimes, “the enemy of my enemy is my ‘friend”!?

Big Al
Big Al
Sep 21, 2023 12:08 AM

Pretty disgusting when the so called opposition to totalitarianism acts just like the enemy. Of course, Schellenberger is a democrat at heart, i.e., he’s got the totalitarian tendencies.

Johnny
Johnny
Sep 20, 2023 11:43 PM

Zealots, whatever team they’re on, remain zealots.
We need humility pills.
We need hubris lobotomies.
We need an honesty epidemic.
We need Truth.

Moss
Moss
Sep 20, 2023 11:41 PM

Focused on optics instead of principles.
Movement doa

Balkydj
Balkydj
Sep 21, 2023 11:59 AM
Reply to  Moss

A Rolling Stone gathers no Moss . . .?

You nailed it. Sorry, for the following link…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AmfetXakOsc

It was just irresistible 😂 you know.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Sep 20, 2023 11:37 PM

Censorship and cancellation – can we ever be free from it when we interact within a group?
Looks like our efforts at freedom will have to be every man or woman for him or herself. Got to do what the “I” knows is right.

Denny KirkQg
Denny KirkQg
Sep 20, 2023 9:52 PM

Thanks CJ for all the good that you have done for humanity. You are truly a Good Soul. I have learned so much from you. Peace

turesankara
turesankara
Sep 20, 2023 8:37 PM

C’mon bruv.
The minute punters were buying the whole Elon Musk is the saviour of pro speech bit, you had to have known that it was a psyop. Duh

mjh
mjh
Sep 20, 2023 8:34 PM

CJ, as a great admirer of you — your humor, your sarcasm, your feistiness, and your stands on issues (so far as I know them) — I say this: why don’t YOU start the mass movement for freedom of speech that you wish your erstwhile colleague and friend Mike had started? It would be a service to us all. And that way if (or, we can hope, when) Mike the control freak comes to his senses the two movements and their associated lists of signatories can merge and maybe actually achieve something.
Control freaks are tough to deal with. As a recovering control freak, I can attest to this!

Thomas L Frey
Thomas L Frey
Sep 20, 2023 7:48 PM

Kabuki Theater
Bread and Circus

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 20, 2023 6:49 PM

I’m guessing that the masses also don’t care about Zizek’s inherently Lynchian attitude towards tulips:

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 20, 2023 10:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Do people like him have a fan crowd, or is it only the establishment that use him as a red flag in front of the bull.

Jerry Alatalo
Jerry Alatalo
Sep 20, 2023 11:55 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Some might recall a Democracy Now-sponsored discussion event a few years back where Mr. Zizek was a featured speaker… I shall never forget after listening with anticipation (for the last time) to Mr. Zizek’s talk …and coming away thinking: “How are people looking up to this so-called ’eminent philosopher’ of a man?!” … Sadly, nothing Slavoj Zizek said in his approximate 40-minute talk made so much as a molecule of rational, orderly sense.

George Mc
George Mc
Sep 21, 2023 7:59 AM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

There’s a discussion show in which Zizek chats with David Horowitz chaired by Julian Assange. When I first saw it I thought I was hallucinating. I’d say that very situation raises a few questions.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Sep 21, 2023 11:47 AM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

That happens to a man when he reads too much French post-modernist horse poop.

Ort
Ort
Sep 21, 2023 8:20 PM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

The state agency where I worked was supposedly governed by civil service rules and procedures that guaranteed that promotions were made strictly by merit. Naturally, in practice the usual favoritism and internecine intrigues ruled; every so often, we were scandalized to find that upper management promoted some notoriously incompetent egregious schemer and ass-kisser to a lofty management position.

On one such occasion, a down-to-earth co-worker, Missy, asked me what I thought about X being promoted to the coveted post of manager of our new call center. I went into my usual long-winded, convoluted critique, to the effect that X seemed to have a gift for charming superiors into wrongly believing that X was both highly competent and hard-working.

After listening patiently to my convoluted opinion, Missy interrupted and said, “In other words: a bullshitter.” We both laughed, because she’d summed up my tortured commentary in one succinct word.

So: even before Žižek was reverently showcased on “Democracy Now”, I’d pegged him as someone who’d fooled enough “important” people enough of the time to be regarded as an eminent philosopher. He seemed to me to be an obvious self-important, wildly overrated poser.

I can still hear Missy saying “In other words: a bullshitter.” 🤔

Hamish
Hamish
Sep 25, 2023 7:12 AM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

For me, he is, overall, incoherent with his rhapsodical rants, which I think we are supposed to tolerate because he is a ‘character’.

Onthemoney
Onthemoney
Sep 20, 2023 6:32 PM

The editors of “respected” publications like The New Yorker and The New York Times give a shit

I dont think they give a shit either and even if they did, they could be replaced. The problem here is the battered wife syndrome. Mike sounds like he is blaming himself. He wasn’t good enough. Didn’ try hard enough. If he gets his list right it will make the difference. It is like the snake in the supermarket analogy. The scientific concensus. No the virus isn’t a snake. Measles isn’t a snake either. It doesn’t matter how many people say it is or what their credentials are. The facts are what count. Therefore the whole idea is flawed. There should be no signatures and no credentials. The motion has to stand on it’s own merit. I myself believe in this a lot. I have had impact from the comment section without any credentials. Being anonymous and changing IDs. It helps to focus your skills. It follows that the credentials and popularity enable sloppyness and weak arguments. Who has been censored the most is not Russell Brand or Del Bigtree or even Andrew Wakefield but the truth. At the end of the day it is a side show to keep attention away from the non existance of virus. If you want to excommunicate someone then let it be the virus believers because going along to get along ends up costing childrens lives.
https://odysee.com/@otherworldlyangelxx:6/%F0%9F%90%87%F0%9F%A4%8D-%EF%BE%9F%E2%9C%A7-%E2%80%9Cbreak-up-with-your:3

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 20, 2023 5:44 PM

While we are occupied with free speech, chips and censorship, some other forces superior to ours have been scrutinizing us and our dollares with hateful and envious eyes, and slowly and surely they drew up their plans against us.

One day, without a minutes notice, suddenly the lit will fall off:
https://youtu.be/Poii8JAbtng and millions of Commies will pour out of the hole.
Its Doomsday boys.

rubberheid
rubberheid
Sep 20, 2023 5:34 PM

dawkins was always an evil horror, stares out his deid een and rolls lively from his forked thing.

an utter bad being…

Where’s Howard, I sense an organic pogrom on atheists, . . . lol

utter hubris = evil

discuss.

John Ervin
John Ervin
Sep 24, 2023 9:52 PM
Reply to  rubberheid

GKC as usual,

“There is no bigot like the atheist.”

He must have foreseen “Dawkins”

Camille
Camille
Sep 25, 2023 8:32 PM
Reply to  rubberheid

‘ deid een’. What’s that? Scots for ‘ dead eyes’?

rubberheid
rubberheid
Sep 26, 2023 1:52 AM
Reply to  Camille

aye

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Sep 20, 2023 5:20 PM

Whatever bit of ‘free speech’ you’d like to preserve/restore you have to ask yourself one question:

Can I afford it ?

John Ervin
John Ervin
Sep 24, 2023 9:54 PM

Well said. Every freedom has its price.

If we don’t pay, someone does.

Spendthrifts need not apply.

sandy
sandy
Sep 20, 2023 5:12 PM

Spot on!!! You hit the land mine which is the ruling elite “leader” club. These are the ones that move up the authoritarian ladder system. These suckers are everywhere and they are a sellout waiting to happen. There is no humanitarian, egalitarian nature within the “leader” cult person that runs the world. Authoritarianism is the authority to assume decision making control. Both political parties and the unbranded local politicians, and system “though leader” cultists, all have the authoritarian operating system running inside their brains, sometimes cloaked from view. As you are seeing. We can all pray that instances like this awaken the egalitarian inside and they give up control. As anti-authoritarians have expressed, “lead by obeying” is the path where we allow the commoners to decide and “leaders” become real facilitators instead, giving up their CENSORING control freakness.

Welcome to Spaceship Earth, brother C.J.! Solidarity!

Joe Smith
Joe Smith
Sep 20, 2023 6:17 PM
Reply to  sandy

Movements without leaders are ridiculous shams.

Howard
Howard
Sep 20, 2023 10:30 PM
Reply to  Joe Smith

I would like, if I may, to remove two words from your otherwise excellent statement: the words “without” and “leaders.” Thank you.

jubal hershaw
jubal hershaw
Sep 20, 2023 11:08 PM
Reply to  Joe Smith

bowel movements ?
they are not “ridiculous”
and can be quite serious.

Balkydj
Balkydj
Sep 21, 2023 12:15 PM
Reply to  Joe Smith

Would you be up for a Referendum on that ?

John Ervin
John Ervin
Sep 24, 2023 10:30 PM
Reply to  Joe Smith

Movements with leaders are usually scams. And shams.

underground poet
underground poet
Sep 20, 2023 7:04 PM
Reply to  sandy

You dont have to be an anti movement, just make them follow the laws of nature and apply their authoritarian rules, they will proceed to go straight into denial and the big delay shall occur.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Sep 20, 2023 4:26 PM

All Western media campaigns are designed to stir people up, getting people upset, to create conflicts.
They know they create anger and conflict, and are afraid of the crossing moment the crowd will go berserk.
Its called Neuro Linguistic Programming. Designed to change or control people’s behaviour.
Out of all the stupid academic new words I lost this one until yesterday.

For your own sake dont let you be provoked. By knowing the concept you can avoid it.

https://theobservermagazine.substack.com/p/beginners-guide-to-neurolinguistic

Speedwellian
Speedwellian
Sep 21, 2023 2:48 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

How to harvest energy? Polarise. Build up a charge in one group, connect a line to it’s opposite, flick the switch and boom, energy flows.

Bored now
Bored now
Sep 20, 2023 4:26 PM

I guess that’s an object lesson in how controlled opposition is controlled.

Edwige
Edwige
Sep 20, 2023 4:06 PM

No doubt Dawkins and Zizek would say what was different about Covid was that it was “science”.

H.G. Wells put these words in the mouth of “Lord Evesham” in ‘The New Machiavelli’ (1911):
“The best people in every party converge. We don’t differ at Westminster as they do in the county towns. There’s a sort of extending common policy that goes on under every government, because it’s the right thing to do, and people know it. Things that used to be matters of opinion become matters of science – and cease to be party questions”.

There it is – “science” is what “the best people” have decided is “the right thing to do”. “Party questions” are for “the county towns”.

Lord Evesham is almost certainly a fictionalised version of Lord Esher, a power behind the throne of the Rhodes-Milner Circle. He was also a serial pederast.

P.S. A reminder to anyone who still thinks Wells was just some irrelevant writer of harmless flights of fancy to read ‘The Open Conspiracy’ and ‘The New World Order’. Technocracy and alien invasions trace back to him (at least in publically visible versions). For someone who supposedly worshipped science and rationality, Wells turns out to have had some decidedly esoteric beliefs – for example, the society formed by his surrogate Remington in ‘The New Machiavelli’ icalled The Pentagram Circle! Obviously they’re all raving eugenicists…

Ben
Ben
Sep 21, 2023 1:23 PM
Reply to  Edwige

If Dawkins thinks that anything put forward regarding sarscov2 and covid by our government had even a miniscule brush with any real scientific method then the man is a complete fraud and is totally out to lunch……….or paid off.

ariel
ariel
Sep 21, 2023 3:21 PM
Reply to  Edwige

It’s been going on a long time.
Memo : It can’t work as a political movement. We are faced with the results of that process spitting in our faces every day. It has to be grass-roots, and probably temporary at that. Reacting to overreach when the plebs can’t possibly deny it any longer.,

Loverat 8
Loverat 8
Sep 20, 2023 3:37 PM

You know CJ, why dont you set up with Catherine Austin- Fitts? If I remember right you paired up with her before and were very entertaining. All the best.

ariel
ariel
Sep 21, 2023 3:22 PM
Reply to  Loverat 8

Yay, well yea, Fittz is a Stone Groove.

Howard
Howard
Sep 22, 2023 4:28 PM
Reply to  Loverat 8

I don’t think that would be a match made in heaven. After listening to Ms. Austin-Fitts being interviewed by James Corbett, I decided to give her website a try.

Paying Members Only. Sorry, not for me. And I don’t think it would be Mr. Hopkins’ cup of tea either.

Howard
Howard
Sep 20, 2023 3:29 PM

When hearing there’s a movement afoot to combat this or that, the only recourse is to run like hell in the other direction. Because, as sure as the sun will rise in aluminum soaked skies tomorrow morning, No Good Will Come Of It.

As horrible as this or that is, it must be left alone to self-destruct after running its course. Yes, many will be hurt in the meantime. But the only alternative is to create an even bigger mess by opposing it with committees.

Committee of Public Safety anyone?

Sal P
Sal P
Sep 20, 2023 4:54 PM
Reply to  Howard

… as sure as the sun will rise in aluminum soaked skies

That’s a great line!

rubberheid
rubberheid
Sep 20, 2023 5:40 PM
Reply to  Howard

sadly so, : /

Willem
Willem
Sep 20, 2023 3:17 PM

Well, that adds another reason why the revolution will not be televised…