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Pearl Harbour: Gulf Edition – coming soon?

With some evidence the Hamas attack may, at least, have been allowed to happen…can we expect a false flag on US military targets in the future?

Gavin O’Reilly

Aircraft carrier USS Dwight D Eisenhower – en route to Israel

Last Saturday, the world looked on as the Al-Qassam Brigades, the military wing of the Hamas movement, launched Operation Al-Asqa Flood, the largest military incursion into the state of Israel since the 1973 October War, the 50th anniversary of which had occurred just one day beforehand.

Though lauded by many as a legitimate military response to the Israeli occupation, many could also not help but wonder at how Israel, an entity possessing state of the art surveillance equipment and which receives annual funding from the United States to the tune of billions of dollars, could seemingly be ‘taken by surprise’ by militant Palestinian groups to such a devastating extent.

Suspicions were further aroused when it emerged that Universal Paralello, the electronic music event held on the border of Gaza and which has been the focus of global media attention following the Palestinian incursion, had only changed its location two days beforehand following the falling through of a site in southern Israel near the Egyptian border.

The idea that there were no serious insurance or security concerns over the holding of a music festival on the border of a location where violent clashes between the Al-Quds Brigades and Israeli Forces had taken place only last Summer, is simply unfathomable.

Less than 48 hours following the commencement of Operation Al-Asqa Flood, the Associated Press also carried a report citing an unnamed Egyptian intelligence official who had claimed that Cairo had repeatedly warned Tel Aviv that an escalation was imminent, warnings that seemingly went unheeded. Two separate reports on Friday, one from the New York Times and one from CNN, both outlining warnings given by US intelligence officials to Israel in the days prior to the attacks that Hamas was preparing a large-scale operation, appear to corroborate the idea that Israel had foreknowledge of what was about to take place.

The first question that comes to mind, is to what benefit it would it be to the Israelis to allow such a devastating attack to occur?

Saving the political career of Benjamin Netanyahu, currently mired in a corruption scandal, would be a theory that appears to not have any grounding, with opinion polls following Al-Asqa Flood appearing to indicate that the exact opposite will occur.

Using the Al-Asqa operation as a pretext to carry out ethnic cleansing of Gaza, appears to have strong evidence to back it up, with Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant announcing a complete siege of Gaza following the attacks, cutting off food, water and electricity supplies to the besieged strip, and describing enemy combatants as ‘human animals’; language and behaviour that couldn’t be described as anything less than genocidal.

Indeed, such a scenario was envisaged by hardline Israeli Minister Orit Strock in March of this year, a move that Strock herself admitted would ‘involve many casualties’.

Another theory put forward is that Al-Asqa Flood and the ensuing Israeli onslaught on Gaza will ultimately be used as the catalyst for a wider war with Israel’s arch-rival Iran, a long-time opponent of the Zionist state since the 1979 Islamic Revolution saw Ayatollah Khomeini come to power.

Indeed, in a move which drew little attention amongst the media coverage of the current hostilities, Israeli airstrikes were launched against Damascus and Aleppo airports on Thursday; Syria being a key regional ally of Iran, with Tehran and Hezbollah coming to the Arab Republic’s aid in countering the US-led regime change operation launched against it more than a decade ago, in which Israel itself played a key role.

Despite the extensive military capabilities of the Zionist state however, Israel would undoubtedly face a challenging situation in a direct military confrontation with Iran, Syria and Hezbollah. With a distance of more than 1,000km between Israel and Iran, launching air strikes against the Islamic Republic, and having to travel through the hostile skies of Syria and Iraq to do so, would prove next to impossible without the assistance of the United States and its allies, which leads to a grim possibility – a deliberately provoked or staged attack on American forces, intended to galvanise US support for entry into what could quickly become a global conflict.

Indeed, a historical precedent exists for such a scenario.

Following the outbreak of the second world war in 1939, France was overwhelmed by Germany in the space of nine months, leaving Britain isolated and in a perilous situation. In the United States however, no popular support for entry into what was widely seen as a European civil war existed, especially coming only two decades after WWI.

This would change radically however on the 7th of December 1941, when Imperial Japanese Forces, in response to a trade embargo imposed by the United States, launched a devastating attack on the US Naval base in Pearl Harbour, Hawaii. Washington would officially declare its entry into the conflict the following day.

Strong evidence would later emerge that, similar to last Saturday’s ‘surprise’ attacks on the Israeli state, both British and US intelligence officials at the time were aware that an attack on the US Pacific Fleet was imminent.

Now, with the provocative deployment of US and British Naval Destroyers to the Mediterranean amidst the current hostilities, the recent build-up of US Forces in the Persian Gulf, and Israel’s history of involvement in false flag operations intended to incite a US military response, from the USS Liberty to 9/11, it appears that the stage is now being set for a deliberately provoked or staged attack on US Forces in the region in order to draw Washington into a wider conflict with Iran, and the catastrophic consequences that will follow.

Gavin O’Reilly is an Irish Republican activist from Dublin, Ireland, with a strong interest in the effects of British and US Imperialism; he was a writer for the American Herald Tribune from January 2018 up until their seizure by the FBI in 2021, with his work also appearing on The Duran, Al-Masdar, MintPress News, Global Research and SouthFront. He can be reached through Twitter and Facebook and supported on Patreon.

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BR549
BR549
Oct 21, 2023 2:01 PM

That plan to aggravate the Japanese into supposedly throwing the first punch was later discovered to be known as “The McCollum Memo”, an eight step plan to intentionally drag them into a state of war, but done so that the world would perceive the Japanese as the aggressor.

Paul Vonharnish
Paul Vonharnish
Oct 20, 2023 4:19 PM

Gotta laugh at the picture of a multi-billion dollar aircraft carrier racing to the scene. Aircraft carriers are sitting ducks waiting to be blown out of the water with supersonic missiles. It’s so WWII it’s hilarious… What a bunch of fucking idiots…

Anarchos
Anarchos
Oct 21, 2023 1:32 PM

It was sent there to be a sitting duck. They want Iran to fire at it- it is, as you say, entirely predictable WW2 tactics . If it worked before there is no need to look for something more clever!

GodzSunn
GodzSunn
Oct 20, 2023 2:22 PM

Sooo we have had Ww1 and 2 countless other wars post these events. The West isn’t for freedom it has a morbid fascination for killing and and using NGO and subterfuge to stir up trouble where once there was no trouble. There is a certain race privilege that comes with these fake made up wars and it the brunt of these horrors tends to me people of colour and the so the world turns with ugliness. I long for the days when the balance does not favour the west.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Oct 20, 2023 6:59 AM

What Happened to the “terrorists”

Presumably the apartheid state has claimed they killed all of the “terrorists”. Convenient for them as there is no one to put in front of cameras. No one to interrogate so they can blow up everyone in Gaza. What did they do with the terrorist “corpses” ? This is not quite a Pearl Harbor as most of the story is made up. Hamas adds to the authenticity of the tale with earnest videos detailing ethical heroics. Could they really have taken hostages back to Gaza ? I doubt it. Israel will keep demanding their return and use it as an excuse to keep slaughtering Gazans.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 20, 2023 4:32 AM

When you know Hamas is a provocative Israeli organisation paid for and created to make terrorism on demand, and this was a false flag to make genocide.

And you know 50% of Gaza’s population are under aged children.

I find both Russia’s and China’s responds to the case to be deeply pathetic and poodle. They knew, and acted only by asking how high they should jump and how low they should bow.

Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill
Oct 19, 2023 10:07 PM

Kudos to Gavin O’Reilly for his correct interpretation of events. I often quote Bismarck’s maxim that “the only lesson we learn from history, is that no-one earns from history”. Mr. O’Reily has, as has the MIC/CIA and all the other dark forces.
Pearl Harbour was clearly a LIHOP (Let it happen on purpose) when you become aware of the McCollum Memo to Roosevelt which outlined the sequence of events needed to provoke Japan into war with the US, and followed to the letter. The US had full knowledge of the Japanese codes and there were no ‘surprises’. Although the commandos if Hawaii were not informed of the known imminent attack, the aircraft carriers were all safely removed and at sea, safe from harm. Thus the US happily sacrificed several thousands of its own servicemen to create the outrage for the pacifist public to demand revenge.
Pearl Harbor is of course a development from the sinking of the USSMaine in Havana which became the catalyst for the Spanish American War. Randolph Hearst’s headline: “Remember the Main. War with Spain” says it all.
Jump forward to the 1998 paper “Catastrophic Terrorism” by Zelikow et al, and we find them lusting for the destruction of WTC with thousands of casualties; the manufactured outrage would provide a “New Pearl Harbor”. Note also that Netanhu et al, all refer to the Hamas attack as another Pearl Harbour and Israel’s 9/11. One cannot but agree with the truth of those comparisons.
Seamlessly, Gavin O’Reilly has predicted that a US aircraft carrier will be attacked (just as in USS Liberty) which was to have allowed the US to nuke Cairo, but the 2 jets were recalled when the Liberty refused to sink and that there would be survivors. How ironic that it was the high quality of WWII ship construction which spoiled their plans (and saved the world). The aircraft carrier has long been rendered obsolete by Russian and Chinese missile which travel at 10 times the speed of sound and from which there is absolutely no defence and no warning.
The warmongers missed one trick: if they had deployed the USS John F. Kennedy, then they could have had it sunk close to the 60th anniversary of their having assassinated him (and had planned to blame on Cuba/Russia to once again provoke WWIII). These psychopaths run the world and most people are oblivious, this proving Bismarck’s maxim.

Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill
Oct 21, 2023 10:43 PM
Reply to  Hugh O'Neill

I goggles the USS JFK. It is currently being turned into razor blades apparently. They offered the empty hulk for free to Boston as a “tourist attraction”. I think they should have mounted it vertically as a monument to the utter waste that is the Military Industrial Complex.

Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill
Oct 21, 2023 10:44 PM
Reply to  Hugh O'Neill

I goggles = I googled. What an accurate translation!

Howard
Howard
Oct 19, 2023 5:15 PM

It would appear the halls of Academia have become Israel-ized of late. (Maybe Harvard et al should move from America to Tel Aviv?)

Billionaire CEOs Continue Campaign to Blacklist Students for Opposition to Israel’s War Crimes – Global ResearchGlobal Research – Centre for Research on Globalization

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 19, 2023 7:45 PM
Reply to  Howard

All Zionists.

Corarden
Corarden
Oct 19, 2023 8:58 AM

Indeed, the odious bloodthirsty shit scraping Daily Fail’s headline did a 180 in very quick time…even glancing at that website seems to transmit some kind of dark depressing spell…as does the Fraudian’s.

niko
niko
Oct 19, 2023 7:58 AM

What happened to Ukraine? Or anything else? Here today, gone tomorrow. What’s permanent is war, whatever theater it’s being waged, and the death it brings ‘over there’. Pacification on the home front largely appears to amount to little more than changing the channel.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Oct 19, 2023 7:44 PM
Reply to  niko

As for me, I’m getting a real frisson watching Voldemort grovel for a few more beans, just enough for another 1-2000 Ukronazi casualties. I guess I too am human animal … mea culpa

Antonym
Antonym
Oct 19, 2023 7:11 AM

False flags are usually planted by clubs that think they can dominate a battle field. In 2023 there three of those: the Anglos, the CCP and the Muslim “uma”.

So Hamas could have faked a hospital explosion to anger the latter, with as bonus the doofus Western woke.

Lu1
Lu1
Oct 19, 2023 7:44 AM
Reply to  Antonym

In 2020 those 3 “clubs” were all part of the overarching unitary Convid club and still are.

If the Muslim “uma” faked anything it caused no anger in those other two clubs as they will already have known and agreed to the fake occurring (in the same fashion as a real pandemic was not required to have the desired effect).

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Oct 19, 2023 7:01 AM

Bi Bi Threatens Europe With Active Measures – More Mass Migration
Brendon O’Connell
Channel: CoinSpot Buzz
Re-Upload from YouTube: Nov 16, 2019
https://altcensored.com/watch?v=Klj06GXp46s

Based on the following two articles.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/19/eu-will-wither-and-die-if-it-does-not-change-policy-on-israel-netanyahu
July 19, 2017
Netanyahu attack on EU policy towards Israel caught on microphone
Israeli PM overheard saying bloc would wither and die unless it changed attitude towards his country at meeting of eastern European leaders

https://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/28/fmr-shin-bet-chief-warns-if-european-countries-fail-to-protect-their-jews-the-state-of-israel-will
July 28, 2014
Fmr. Shin Bet Chief Warns: ‘If European Countries Fail to Protect Their Jews, the State of Israel Will’

In a blunt warning to a visiting group of European diplomats over a looming jihadi threat, a former deputy Shin Bet chief on Monday said “if you do not stand by our side, the day when Islamic terror will reach your homes, your beds and your kindergartens will come soon.”

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 19, 2023 9:18 PM

They will send out ISIS in small European homes if we dont allow usury loans and debts.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 19, 2023 5:58 AM

The photo at the top says it all.

We’ve come a long way since clubs, swords and spears. Or have we?

Fighter aircraft within close proximity for more efficient, high speed killing, maiming and mayhem.

We haven’t evolved or progressed at all. In fact, we are devolving.
God’s big plan, or the chaotic coincidences of evolution have failed.

Oh well, back to the primeval swamp or the Garden of Eden for us.

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 19, 2023 12:15 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Enjoy it, i’ll wait until the real reports have arrived, could be a while too.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Oct 19, 2023 7:47 PM

Indeed UP …meanwhile your good nose will guide you … the smell test dontcha know …

Mark
Mark
Oct 19, 2023 9:24 PM
Reply to  Johnny

There is no plan, God gave us free will so it’s up to us to evolve and sort it out.

bleak
bleak
Oct 19, 2023 5:30 AM

I really think it should be Al-Aqsa and not “Al-Asqa.” One misspelled instance is a typo but six is not.

bleak
bleak
Oct 19, 2023 7:53 AM
Reply to  bleak

HEY OG EDITOR: It really is Al-Aqsa. May be fix the misspellings and gain a little credibility?

David Ho
David Ho
Oct 19, 2023 3:22 AM

To describe the incursions being undetected as a failure of Intelligence and the very delayed response as a failure of procedure is completely ridiculous. Such “failures” are entirely implausible when stacked up against all that has happened. Everyone in the play, the Israelis, the Western Intelligence, key people in Hamas all knew exactly the purpose and consequence of this “attack”.
And that is the total destruction of Gaza.
The Western Mainstream Media, largely owned by BlackRock/Vanguard,has been briefed (maybe it is them who are ultimately calling all the shots, oil and gas), and are Aiding and Abetting this colossal war crime in the face of strong headwinds of public refusal to accept the indefensible and psychopathic official narrative. It is very hard to believe people who bomb hospitals and slaughter thousands, conducting a very obvious genocide, that they hold the moral high ground. It is even worse to stand with them, to carry water for them.
What sort of person would do that?
As world opinion swings away from Israel and people quickly pull down their “I Stand With Israel” flags, lest they are also seen as monsters, the speed of the destruction of Gaza will be stepped up to ensure their final solution is completed before the world’s outcry forces the Americans and Israelis to put a stop to their long planned for goals.

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Oct 19, 2023 4:21 AM
Reply to  David Ho

Beachfront property.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Oct 19, 2023 5:27 AM
Reply to  Pilgrim Shadow

Yes. In 5-10 years this will be an Israeli beach resort. Built on the remains of 2 million Palestinians.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Oct 19, 2023 7:49 PM

Think “Poltergeist” …

bleak
bleak
Oct 19, 2023 5:27 AM
Reply to  David Ho

That it caught Israel “off-guard” (oh wait…) is entirely plausible. Hamas, knowing the ins/outs of ISISreally surveillance, did their reconnaissance, gathered intelligence, weapons, dug the tunnels, hired drivers for the flying winged deals… it took months, yes, but it’s plausible.

That’s not saying I think it’s true; only that it is plausible. I’m not alone in that. There’s a very well-informed British man and his crew called Palestine Declassified (on Rumble at least and maybe still on gootube) who think otherwise. (find Episode 90: Gaza ‘prison break’ on Rumble)

David Ho
David Ho
Oct 19, 2023 6:50 AM
Reply to  bleak

The fact that the forces normally positioned there were moved away, all the super state of the art surveillance was switched off and calls for an urgent response were not acted upon for many hours tells the story different from one that claims they were caught unawares whilst sitting beside the pool with their pants around their ankles, bleating on about how ISIS disabled their surveillance equipment and they never noticed. One has to do incredible amounts of mental contortions to bend reality is such a way to believe stories of unwitting failure, or even suggesting that They Let It Happen. No, they made it happen. They planned and organised the lot in order to destroy Gaza. It was an inside job, just like 9/11 was an inside job so that America could embark on a spree of country destruction under the guise of fighting terrorism. Even today many people are still too stupid to wrap their head around that simple observation.
The media’s job is to mind fuck the population into believing ridiculous implausible bullshit. They are very effective in doing this.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Oct 19, 2023 6:07 AM
Reply to  David Ho

The third temple.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Oct 19, 2023 3:03 AM

Iran

There is much talk about war between the West and Israel and Iran. Iran is allegedly supporting various anti Israel factions. I don’t really know what to think. During the long (8 year) destructive war between Iran and Iraq Israel and the West assisted Iran massively with arms and spares. Israeli technicians based in Teheran helped keep the Iranian air force in the air. This long war helped destroy Iraq, along with the later wars. Iraq was a Palestinian ally and their destruction was essential for the eventual Israeli victory and it’s unopposed erasure of the remnants of the Palestinian people. Has Iran had a change of heart ? It has done very little at the present time to assist the Palestinians. Nutanyahoo’s apparent hostility to Iran could just be a smokescreen. On the other hand it could be that the banksters think Iran has outlived it’s usefulness and can be destroyed. The banksters are not sentimental.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Oct 19, 2023 7:55 PM

Our Yahoo is concentrated on his son, Yair, a humanist philosopher who espouses Bach Flower remedies … give them a break!

May Hem
May Hem
Oct 20, 2023 4:37 AM

“Nutanyahoo’s apparent hostility to Iran could just be a smokescreen”. I believe you’re right, P.Mammal. Iran and Israel are best of friends.

Paul Prichard
Paul Prichard
Oct 19, 2023 2:01 AM

Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2023-10-18. 74% jabbed Sweden experiencing excess death in 2023 & 31% jabbed Bulgaria 10% below average for 2023 (blog, gab, tweet, pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4).

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 19, 2023 12:17 AM

People who are at peace with themselves and have enough Love in their lives, DO NOT exude belligerence.

Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Atheism, Capitalism, Communism etc etc, are not the problem. It’s the tunnel visioned BELIEF that people have in those CULTS.

Truth has no ‘brand name’.
It simply IS.

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 19, 2023 7:41 AM
Reply to  Johnny

To find out whether a particular religious community is insane, read its scriptures.

antitermite
antitermite
Oct 18, 2023 11:49 PM

Yes, this is today’s “Pearl Harbor”, and “9/11” rolled into one..
because just like them it’s another false flag.
And when the dust settles,the official narrative will have more holes in it than a Gaza hospital.

The Israeli border is probably the tightest in the world outside of the DRPK, and the Gaza one probably trumps that.
Allegedly not even a mouse can cross without it being reported.
(which begs the question:
Where did Hamas get all their weapons from?
“Tunnels”… which would basically mean.. Israel.
Yeah right.)

This includes all the news from that region too.
So I haven’t bothered to follow this conflict anywhere (other than sites like offG),
Because all of the information from “either side” (which may or may not be a false dichotomy) is whatever some agency wants us to believe.

I don’t buy into the genocide angle, because if they wanted that, all that needs be done is cut the food & energy, contaminate the water..
(which is already happening to some extent anyway, for decades)
.. and wait.
Not a shot needs be fired.
Besides, the Israeli government depends on their Palestinians as tame bogeymen & punching bags.

We don’t need another war since Ukraine is already providing plenty of distraction, though maybe that’s not turning out as well as hoped..

Starting a fight with Iran seems like something so incredibly stupid, especially when there’s already a proxy war with Russia (with, not against?), and increasing tensions vs China

So my best guess is that the Glorb needs an off-ramp from Ukraine, and a conflict that they can “win”.

I think The Onion has nailed it:
https://www.theonion.com/the-onion-stands-with-israel-because-it-seems-like-yo-1850922505
https://www.theonion.com/what-to-know-about-what-s-happening-in-israel-and-gaza-1850923354
https://www.theonion.com/americans-explain-how-they-are-ignoring-the-israel-hama-1850933284

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Oct 19, 2023 1:23 AM
Reply to  antitermite

Ethnic Cleansing

Ethnic cleansing appears to be the objective. The amount of money and effort and blood spent in creating the apartheid state is immense. Two world wars, the assassination of countless leaders including James Forrestal, four Kennedys, Mahatma Gandhi, the (unrelated) Gandhi family, Olof Palme, and Yasser Arafat. The destruction of every possible Palestinian ally including Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. The 1967 and 1973 wars. One could also include the Bolshevik revolution. Why would the apartheid state stop at annihilating Gaza ? We have the prototype of Jericho (also the name of an actual missile), the actual horrors of the Native Americans and Australians, Dresden, Hiroshima, Baghdad and far more cities I can recall. The huge decades long diplomatic offensives across the globe that has turned the pariah into a hero.

Joe Smith
Joe Smith
Oct 19, 2023 5:01 AM
Reply to  antitermite

Sorry, but the Onion is a wholly-owned subsidiary.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Oct 19, 2023 5:34 AM
Reply to  Joe Smith

The Onion has swallowed the “terrorist” attack fable with it’s ever growing toll. Israel is bombing Gaza to rubble and minced meat but the Israeli toll keeps climbing. It appears that anyone that received a scratch in whatever happened is dying of his “wounds”.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Oct 18, 2023 11:30 PM

Solution

This appears to be what is happening in the Middle East:

False flag, reaction, final solution to the Palestinian problem.

Seansaighdeoir
Seansaighdeoir
Oct 18, 2023 10:19 PM

This is worth 20 mins of anyone’s time. This interviewee is on another level entirely and Piers Morgan way out of his depth.

https://nitter.net/AmirAminiMD/status/1714454924304449849#m

Arnold
Arnold
Oct 18, 2023 9:50 PM

Good article Gavin BTW.

AntiSoof
AntiSoof
Oct 18, 2023 9:50 PM

I sometimes think, who is that theater actually designed for?

Some say partly for the people.
So partly strategic, but partly also for the spectators whose ‘consent’, assent, seems to be needed. At least, this is what some renowned researchers concluded.

Ergo, when the narrator is silenced, perhaps a curse is (partly) broken?

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 18, 2023 10:49 PM
Reply to  AntiSoof

If spiders undo their webs, tempests follow.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Oct 19, 2023 8:00 PM

Nice … it’s like when the sixes come undone, if you catch my drift

Arnold
Arnold
Oct 18, 2023 9:47 PM

Anyone going to have the courage to mention the religious aspect to there prophecy that is needed to happen so they can have a new world order religious style for there what ever creature to appear and save the lost religious souls..

Question,.. which has baffled me for a long time is with in all the religious nutters in the world, why hasn’t anyone gone there and got rid of that thing building or how come none of the bombs have hit it.

Answer would be it is protected by demons is it old world tek .?

Looks magical though and if it was in England it would of been made into a Tesco express by now.

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AntiSoof
AntiSoof
Oct 18, 2023 10:58 PM
Reply to  Arnold

Could it be that one can see from the remaining buildings that have been there for centuries, having survived every war, where the power lies and which buildings they therefore spare?

Jeffrey Strahl
Jeffrey Strahl
Oct 18, 2023 9:28 PM

One fly in the otherwise good-looking ointment: Iran has just made major moves towards working more closely with its neighbor Azerbaijan, a key ally of Israel and the US. Iran will also join BRICS on 1/1/24. The core BRICS members – Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa — are members of the G20, the international grouping which is being increasingly put forth as the global governance mechanism, replacing the G7, as desired by the Council on Foreign Relations, enunciated in an article on its page, “What Does the G7 Do?”, June 28th, 2023.

Re Iran/Azerbaijan,
 https://www.intellinews.com/comment-the-new-iran-azerbaijan-transit-route-reflects-shifting-geopolitical-realities-296688/

Victor G.
Victor G.
Oct 19, 2023 8:05 PM
Reply to  Jeffrey Strahl

That’s great … it makes whatever slaughter is underway so much easier to understand …

turesankara
turesankara
Oct 18, 2023 9:03 PM

Wag The Dog o_O

moneycircus
moneycircus
Oct 18, 2023 8:02 PM

Postmodernist relativists don’t like being skewered by their own ideology.

So when an African has been through the wringer of the dialectic – rather than talking in student common rooms – Left don’t like it!

In the 1980s, every leftist (as I was – though we already spotted Progressives as 1920s fascists) embraced Mandela’s speech – his declaration in the court room of the 1960s, as we would his speech upon his release almost 30 years later.

Today, I can guarantee you, that the rebranded Progressive socialists would find Mandela’s words aggressive and direct – for he does not spare do-gooding, bleading hearts – nor financial privilege hidden behind the guise of giving some of it away.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Oct 18, 2023 11:39 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

George Orwell spotted the same thing way back in the 1930s:

The fact is that Socialism, in the form in which it is now presented, appeals chiefly to unsatisfactory or even inhuman types. On the one hand you have the warm-hearted unthinking Socialist, the typical working-class Socialist, who only wants to abolish poverty and does not always grasp what this implies. On the other hand, you have the intellectual, book-trained Socialist, who understands that it is necessary to throw our present civilisation down the sink and is quite willing to do so. And this type is drawn, to begin with, entirely from the middle class, and from a rootless town-bred section of the middle class at that. Still more unfortunately, it includes — so much so that to an outsider it even appears to be composed of … the foaming denouncers of the bourgeoisie, and the more-water-in-your-beer reformers of whom [George Bernard] Shaw is the prototype, and the astute young social-literary climbers who are Communists now, as they will be Fascists five years hence, because it is all the go, and all that dreary tribe of high-minded women and sandal-wearers and bearded fruit-juice drinkers who come flocking towards the smell of ‘progress’ like bluebottles to a dead cat. – The Road to Wigan Pier

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 18, 2023 11:47 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Nothing’s changed since 1930 then.
Smug middle class do gooders on one hand, and wage slaves on the other.
Slow learners aren’t we?

dom irritant
dom irritant
Oct 19, 2023 5:15 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

a knight of malta is mandela fancy that

Charles Chevalier
Charles Chevalier
Oct 18, 2023 7:49 PM

The Israelis border with Gazza is dominated by sangers situated along the entire length of the border between the settlement and the Israeli held land. There is no way in hell that intel had no idea about the attack. It was far to big to be kept a secret the logistics alone would have raised red flags in supply and demand movement. The movement and organisation in Gazza would have been a further concern and by all accounts should have been picked up by intel. As ex military infantry and battalion intel soldier,I can say, there is no way this attack was a surprise. To know this was coming would mean that high brass colluded to put skeleton crews on sangers at least a week previous to tire them out. As an ex British army infantry soldier even if we were tired, there is no way they would have crossed the border as fast as they did. They would have been held down with suppressive fire on their positions until re-enforcements arrived which would have been in an hour at most. It is even more preposterous to think the soldiers in the sangers never seen the attack coming. By all accounts it seems ludicrous to think that in the ecosystem of military readiness Hamas was able to penetrate Israel so deeply and quickly without almost a shot fired in opposition.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Oct 18, 2023 7:03 PM

In 1990, Nelson Mandela visited the U.S. for the first time after being freed from 27 years of imprisonment in South Africa.

Ted Koppel interviewed him but it turned out to be an attempted assassination of his character, credibility, and cause.

Mandela was wise to the trap and addressed the audience directly, not looking at Koppel.

Koppel’s guest questioners turned out to be plants, yet Mandela annihilated them.
Koppel was never the same man again and eventually slipped into oblivion.

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 18, 2023 7:40 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

He might have slipped but we took down quite a few fellow lads along the way, most of which still have yet to hit the carpet.

Arnold
Arnold
Oct 18, 2023 9:35 PM

Very good video.
I for one was convinced nelson died in prison.

Joe Smith
Joe Smith
Oct 19, 2023 5:05 AM
Reply to  moneycircus

Yes, necklacing is a fun sport.

Hele
Hele
Oct 19, 2023 7:43 AM
Reply to  moneycircus

Amazing Mandela.And found this after delving in a bit:
’‘ Not a single participant given the mic ever made note of the fact that the United States was practically in support of the South African apartheid regime  for at least 4 decades! And, as if its record on this case wasn’t already bad enough, the United States continued to have Nelson Mandela and the organization he represented, the ANC, listed on its international list of terrorists  at the very moment the town-hall meeting took place in 1990! It would not be until  2008 that the U.S. decided it was safe for Nelson Mandela’s name to be removed from the official ‘terrorist’ list . In fact, it was a member of the  CIA who in 1962 helped the South African white regime find discover Mandela’s whereabouts  so that they would be able to arrest him, an arrest that ultimately resulted in the ANC leader being incarcerated for more than 27 years. (**) Perhaps even more astounding, in light of the incessant amount of questions Koppel and co. directed at Mandela in regards to human rights and the P.L.O., is the fact that  Israel began supplying a large amount weaponry to the South African apartheid regime in 1976 , weaponry that included (though unknown to the rest of the  world at the time) a nuclear weapon .”
https://ushypocrisy.com/2014/05/19/nelson-mandela-faces-off-against-imperialists-on-the-ted-koppel-report-1990/

mgeo
mgeo
Oct 19, 2023 8:00 AM
Reply to  moneycircus

About a decade ago, Steven Sackur went to inverview Hugo Chavez in Venezuela. He began with “Mr. President, welcome to BBC Hard Talk”. Chavez replied, “You have come here, Steven; welcome to Venezuela”.

Joe Smith
Joe Smith
Oct 18, 2023 6:57 PM

Lazy, incompetent, ill-provisioned army. Guards asleep or texting. “The most advanced” nothing: boondoggle, corruption-manufactured equipment. Spoiled ignorant children soldiers. Explanation complete.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Oct 18, 2023 6:30 PM

How did the War on Terror, elide into Covid 0.0, 1.0, 2.0, 3.0 and the upcoming 4.0.
Or… Is it a coincidence that when support for the Covid response declined, a war broke out in Ukraine and, when that offensive began to sputter, the war in Israel replaced it?
https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/hospital-bombings-denial-and-blood

arielazalexander
arielazalexander
Oct 18, 2023 7:24 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

No, it’s just this week’s crisis/crises. Ummm have you noticed ‘CR- ISIS?’ Keeping the millions/billions fearfully distracted.
Sympathetic magic. Homeopathic meanings crossing boundaries without alerting the recipients, who just react, having had their cognitive abilities (if any) successfully bypassed.
It’s horrific for those on the receiving end. The worst fate unto those who deliberately massacre the children.
‘Collateral damage; Urban renewal the American way.’

moneycircus
moneycircus
Oct 18, 2023 7:35 PM

“Cascading Crises” to which O’Biden referred in his inaugural address is my continuing theme.

Agree it is horrific. It is too nasty for most alt-hosts to address. It sheds readers. The damage to cognition – sadly a feature, as you suggest.

The theme of my three posts is to chuck people out of their comfortable seat.

As you identified, what passes for comfortable liberalism, is a torture for its adherents, bound as it is to the pursuit of individual financial gain, while paying lip service to the greater good.

The Mandela interview brings this to a head, regardless of whether one agrees with him or not.

99% of Progressives would chalk up his name – like Guevara – without a clue what he was saying.

AntiSoof
AntiSoof
Oct 18, 2023 10:03 PM

Indeed, arielazalexander,
never waste a good crisis and if there isn’t one, or two or three we’ll create it. First class magic. 🎩

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 18, 2023 7:47 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

Don’t over think this, what we have been seeing is the system trying to save its self.

It rushes to the most volatile hot spot with an array of cool fighting tools, most of them financial, then they step back and watch the results. If bad, throw more money at the problem, when you need more money tax higher and raise the interest rates to suck in more money.

There is nothing new going on here except perhaps the sustainability of it all, and of that, i’m not sure, the tax payer is hooked lined and about to be sunk only to find a new tax payer.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Oct 18, 2023 8:11 PM

I assure you I’m not over thinking. I sleep 3 hours a day and spend the rest following what’s happening in Israel.

For anyone looking for unfiltered news see Twitter Spaces – admittedly from a Palestinian perspective, being aware that you can filter out. I recommend https://twitter.com/Kahlissee

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 18, 2023 10:53 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

You ought to get you some sleep, i’ll do some driving.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Oct 18, 2023 6:27 PM

Back when actors spoke more sense than politicians today.
Paul Newman on disarmament, 1983
http://thephaser.com/2023/10/paul-newman-explains-how-the-truth-doesnt-matter-to-u-s-govt-1983/

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 18, 2023 5:03 PM

Never mind if “it” was allowed to happen. Do we even know what “it” was anyway? I’ve seen footage of reporters who are clearly in no danger trying to look as if they’re really struggling with – oh, something or other going on in the background which is usually a street with minimal damage. Meanwhile the camera may shake a bit or the reporter may try to generate a cracked voice whilst pointing away to the side and murmuring, “Oh my God! Beheaded babies!”

Meanwhile shots of Gaza look like Hiroshima after the bomb.

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 18, 2023 5:06 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Oh and I forgot the clincher with these Israel movies: the soulful piano music – or sometimes there’s a violin. Perhaps the Who’s “Won’t Get Fooled Again” would be more appropriate?

gorden
gorden
Oct 18, 2023 7:27 PM
Reply to  George Mc

every day on classic fm schindlers list
john williams violin theme meme
never again never again never again.

the children of the kagan cry out in pain as they strike you

George Mc
George Mc
Oct 18, 2023 9:44 PM
Reply to  gorden

Now that you mention it, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if a whole avalanche of new Holocaust movies are in the offing. Perhaps with extended scenes of hospital bombing by Nazis with darker skins and keffiyehs.

Maria Johnson
Maria Johnson
Oct 18, 2023 6:03 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Well said Nothing more.

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Oct 18, 2023 4:05 PM

Joe’s in town, lock up the kids and remember to change his nappy..

Howard
Howard
Oct 18, 2023 4:29 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

And be sure to stash your coke.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Oct 18, 2023 11:11 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Creepy Joe

I have just learned that Creepy Joe is far more sinister than I thought. Apparently he was a key promoter of the wars in Iraq. The focus was on villains like Bliar, Dubya, Cheyney, Rumsfeld and so on. Also rightly on the neocons. But this arsehole apparently worked tirelessly both in and behind the scenes to ensure the political prostitutes were persuaded to vote for the wars. This explains why a creep like him was selected to occupy the White House at his age.

T.S.
T.S.
Oct 18, 2023 2:58 PM

Easy solution: just bomb the whole f…ing arabian peninsula into oblivion, it is way past time to increase the overall radiaton level in this shithole area.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 18, 2023 3:13 PM
Reply to  T.S.

The US would still want military bases there…

Howard
Howard
Oct 18, 2023 4:28 PM
Reply to  T.S.

That’s not a good idea. For one thing, other parts of the world would complain of discrimination.

“Why do you only bomb Arabs? What are we: chopped liver? We’re human too you know!”

(And it’s well known that humans exist for one thing only: to be killed and maimed by bigger humans.)

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 19, 2023 11:57 PM
Reply to  T.S.

Only US bases thanks. Into oblivion and the whole Arab peninsula would prosper without your presence.

Kenya Wildlife Service says not one Rhinos were killed by poachers in the Country in 2020 for the first time in 20 years…….after International travel stopped!
https://vk.com/wall-28761941_534311

If you understand a hint.

October
October
Oct 18, 2023 2:36 PM

While it does seem to be false flag season, the prompt exposure of the latest operations would make a reasonable person more cautious, considering the risk of being found out too early.

But are those who decide such things reasonable people?

Willem
Willem
Oct 18, 2023 1:55 PM

Feels like Groundhog Day.

Again

Now they’re bombing hospitals

There are some nuts going nuts in Brussel and Rotterdam

So yeah, a false flag in the make totally makes sense

Funny thing with this atrocity propaganda is that one must keep a straight face or act if something terrible did happen, while it didn’t happen.

Saying the obvious is not allowed.
.Also in repeat. And rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat, etc.

Candid camera

Howard
Howard
Oct 18, 2023 3:45 PM
Reply to  Willem

There are two things which should be taken into account here:

1) we’re not eyewitnesses so we can’t know for certain what has or has not actually occurred;

2) what’s purported to be happening in Gaza is fully consistent with everything the Israelis have been saying for decades.

There can be no doubt that Israel would like the Palestinians to just disappear from the face of the Earth. So whether the operation as a whole is a false flag or not, the events themselves could be very real – and very devastating to the Palestinians.

Willem
Willem
Oct 18, 2023 8:06 PM
Reply to  Howard

Who is Israel?
What are Israelis?
What makes you say that there is no doubt?

What if I doubt?
Is that the unthinkable?
Or is it just plain laziness not to doubt?

And what makes you so sure that there are eye witnesses?

Please don’t tell me that you do not doubt because you saw it on teevee…

But if you did not see it on teevee, how else do you know that you don’t need to doubt?
– Are you an eyewitness?

Elaborate us.

Howard
Howard
Oct 18, 2023 9:58 PM
Reply to  Willem

The “no doubt” in my comment referred to the often stated Israeli view of what ought to happen in that area of the Middle East – not to any of the events being portrayed.

But if the Israelis were just joshing, and don’t really want the Palestinians out of the picture, then I stand the butt of their joke.

My other point is that since we personally were not eyewitnesses, then we have no choice but to question everything. And we already know better than to trust anything the media tells us.

There have been some interesting articles on globalresearch.ca which do suggest that 1) what was claimed to have happened during the Hamas “attack” was greatly exaggerated; and 2) what is being claimed to be happening during the Israeli “attack” of Gaza is not being exaggerated.

Of course, we can’t say “Time will tell” since time may not heal all wounds but does tend to hide all clues.

Anarchos
Anarchos
Oct 18, 2023 12:44 PM

It’s almost entirely predictable by now… let’s impotently watch the demons in human skins (and their countless Christian, Muslim and Judaic puppets) perform another mass sacrifice to Yahweh/Allah/Yaldabaoth- also known as Satan… who they all believe to be their “true” god (as well as their “Lord”, in a master-slave relationship )as they rush to make Armageddon a reality, but “he” is really the one and same parasite.

Watch them all brimming with hate and crying for total war and destruction, as they have been programmed to do for nearly 2000 years….

“Say to the people of Israel, When you pass over the Jordan into the land of Canaan, then you shall drive out all the inhabitants of the land from before you, and destroy all their figured stones, and destroy all their molten images, and demolish all their high places; and you shall take possession of the land and settle in it, for I have given the land to you to possess it …

But if you do not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you, then those of them whom you let remain shall be as pricks in your eyes and thorns in your sides, and they shall trouble you in the land where you dwell.

And I will do to you as I thought to do to them.”

Numbers 33.50-56

“The Lord is a man of war; Yahweh is his name.” – Exodus 15.3.

‘You shall annihilate them – Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, Jebusites – as Yahweh your God commanded you.’

– Deuteronomy 20.11,18.

“And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you … He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.”

– Genesis 17.11,14.

“And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation.” – Exodus 19.6.

Prophet! Rouse the believers to wage war. If there are twenty amongst you, patient and persevering, they will subdue two hundred: if a hundred, they will subdue a thousand of the disbelievers: for these are a people without understanding.

Quran 8:65[59]

Same parasite, different names.

Howard
Howard
Oct 18, 2023 2:06 PM
Reply to  Anarchos

The Bible is, quite simply, the most evil thing ever written. Which indeed explains why it is the most revered thing ever written.

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 18, 2023 2:35 PM
Reply to  Howard

I’d say it needs to be studied with critical thinking.

The people who wrote the various books in the Bible didn’t look for ‘power and wealth’ as we understand those things today.
They didn’t stand to gain a luxury mansion, several Rolls Royce limousines, a yacht in the Caribbean, limitless champagne and pretty girls.

Nor was it just ‘a job’, or a ‘profession’ for them.
They were more perceptive than the bulk of mankind at that time, and earned the respect of their fellow men on account of that.

Surely any impartial person can see that many things in the Bible show far greater insight into human nature – good or bad – than most people possess today.
The writers certainly looked at the world through quite different eyes from our own, but that doesn’t mean they were in any way mentally deficient.

Those men were inspired to write what they wrote because of a far closer relationship to ‘the spirit’ than is fashionable today.
Nowadays, if somebody says he is ‘inspired’ to write a religious book, he will probably be dismissed as an insane cultist, and strait-jackets will be kept nearby.

But, as I said, that is a mere fashion – like flared trousers and mini-skirts.

I don’t believe it makes any sense to read the books of the Bible as if they were supposed to be some kind of exciting novel containing all the updated wisdom of 21st Century science.
They are religious texts, and if a person isn’t religious, then again, I’d say it would obviously be best for them to leave the Bible alone.

It wasn’t written for a modern critic, but as a timeless spiritual guide for those so inclined.
The Bhagavad Gita from early Indian culture serves the same purpose.

Any ‘evil’ in those books is most likely a projection from our modern critics, and to my mind there could be nothing intrinsically evil in books from a few thousand years ago, unless they were actual users’ manuals for black magic.

You just read them and make up your own mind, or you ignore them entirely.
Your choice.
It’s like Shakespeare – you either get it, or you don’t, but I would regard my own life as the poorer if I had never heard of him.

Anarchos
Anarchos
Oct 18, 2023 3:13 PM
Reply to  wardropper

Your nonsense book is a fake and utterly incomparable to the Bhagavad Gita ! 😂

“Studying the Bible with critical thinking” leads to the conclusion it is brainwashing nonsense similar to that used by Scientology.

for the non-mystical details (i.e. critical thinking) based on historical evidence go here:

https://jesusneverexisted.com

Of course, mere information cannot undo childhood trauma and brainwashing or help weak minds understand how they are bamboozeld by a superior, more cunning, psychopathic intelligence.

Studying the evidence of how the nonsense in the “scriptures” is a distorted plagiarism and mish-mash of older religions of royalty (Egypt, Rome) might help if the brain damage is not too advanced!

Joe Smith
Joe Smith
Oct 18, 2023 7:01 PM
Reply to  Anarchos

The Bhagavad Gita says you should go ahead and kill your relatives and not worry about it. Yeah, great book.

Howard
Howard
Oct 18, 2023 4:01 PM
Reply to  wardropper

The thing about the Bible can best be underscored with a personal anecdote.

At some point I was working on a personal project (I think it was a novel); and I wanted to include a passage showing the violence and downright evil inherent in religion – so I decided to use the Bible as my “go-to” reference.

But I was afraid I’d have to read the entire Old Testament to find what I was looking for. I didn’t. I literally turned again and again to random pages – and lo and behold every single page I turned to contained at least one verse which fulfilled my criteria.

BTW, the paramount difference between the violence in Shakespeare and in the Bible is that the former was intended merely as entertainment; whereas the latter was intended as a guide to proper behavior on the part of “God’s Chosen People.”

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Oct 18, 2023 4:12 PM
Reply to  Howard

I believe what you’ll find in both Shakespeare and the Bible are expositions of human nature and human behaviors, both good and bad, and everything in between.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 19, 2023 10:14 PM
Reply to  Howard

I wish people would avoid to expose their own gigantic stupidity about the bible and other intelligent sources so openly in public.

The bible is the most read book of all times.
All over the world in all small and major cities you will find churches, synagogues, mosques, m.m. for the 90% of the world’s population who have a spiritual overhead in their lives.

Which means small narrow minded people see themselves as more intelligent and better specie than 90% of the world’s population.
Only because they dont understand nor have any spirituality themselves.
Its so pathetic.

A humorless person sees Donald Duck magazine as the most worthless piece of paper which exist.
Nevertheless millions of children read it with joy, and they are not at all interested in hearing a large humorless crowd crying for their magazine burning.

Ravensara
Ravensara
Oct 19, 2023 2:27 AM
Reply to  wardropper

I like the bible – it feels holy – it at least tries to make something moral and decent – it certainly isn’t old hat – the hospital was Baptist – this world is mad – I believe good will out. My prayers are with the civilians on both sides.

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Oct 18, 2023 12:44 PM

Dropping bombs has to be the most immature and useless way to solve a problem, but it’s also the laziest and most lucrative way to gouge billions in free government money. That’s why war is the oldest grift in the book. The weapons manufacturers are the biggest welfare queens in the world. The perpetuation of this grift requires “human animal” fodder. Palestinians and others are now; who will they choose to dehumanize next? The real human animals are the unconscious predators who choose to remain in the lower realm of consciousness.
Mass Media Reporters Aren’t Buying Israel’s Hospital Bombing Story“But what I’d like to quickly document as things unfold is the highly unusual number of mass media reporters I’ve been seeing who haven’t hesitated to point to Israel as the probable culprit.”

Israel is a Terrorist State
“Israel has killed over 1,000 children, where’s the outrage?”

skit
skit
Oct 18, 2023 11:43 AM

The stranglehold that Israel has over NATO media has never been demonstrated so clearly as between 8pm and midnight (UK time) yesterday.

At around 8pm UK time, BBC and all other NATO media reported a huge “Israeli airstrike” on a Gaza hospital that had killed hundreds maybe even over a 1,000 given that the hospital itself was bombed so the wounded would not get treatment. Complete carnage.

The headlines on ALL articles specifically said “Israeli airstrike”.

None other than Hananya Naftali IDF digital spokesperson quickly claimed responsibility with a tweet that he later deleted.

https://t.me/warmonitors/16345

Another Israeli government account said that “euthanasia” had been provided to collapsing Gaza hospitals. That tweet was also deleted.

Israel has been giving evacuation orders to hospitals all week and threatening to bomb them.

With immediate outrage over the next 3 hours, the entire NATO media narrative quckly scrubbed those headlines replacing it with “Israel blames xyz” soon to be followed by Israel has “proof” that xyz dunnit.

The entire media narrative this morning is like “whodunnit?” ignoring the obvious fact that if anyone in Gaza had such weapons, Tel Aviv would have been levelled with those “5,000” glorified fireworks that Hamas allegedly fired on Oct 7.

Hamas has always been open about some things they claim to have done. They have said they took 120 hostages (the exact number varies from 120 to 200 in NATO media). Hamas said they took hostages to try and negotiate for the release of some 11,000 political prisoners currently in Israeli jails.

They have said they never “deliberately” targeted women, children or unarmed civilians saying clearly that they do not consider armed settlers to be civilians. It seems likely that some unarmed Israeli civilians were killed by Hamas in the hostage taking.

But interviews by Israeli settlers say that the IDF also killed Israelis when they finally arrived hours later with guns blazing. Tellingly, Israeli and other NATO reporters were invited to the Kibbutz only after everything was over, so they’re just cutting and pasting from Israeli government statements without independent verification. Who really knows how many of the dead Israelis on Oct 7 were killed by the IDF and how many by Hamas?

How many were actually killed? I suspect the real number is below 500 but of course for impact, any number over a 1,000 is better. They have not even found some realistically wounded Israelis to interview. Just people with little bandages claiming to have been shot at repeatedly with AK47s…..

To me it certainly seems like the IDF went on holiday for a few hours, allowed Hamas to come in and get out with at least a few hostages. I do not believe any of the reports about Hamas randomly going on killing sprees, beheading babies and raping and whatever other nonsense has been added to that list. The account from the music festival organizer (linked in the above article) only makes one thing 100% clear about the rave: nothing happened to him and his friends and colleagues. All the rest of his account is just hearsay.

skit
skit
Oct 18, 2023 11:58 AM
Reply to  skit

correction: the second tweet i refer to I have not been able to verify myself. It seems it may be from a fake account. Now who would provide such an account tweet in Hebrew and all? Why not, then we can discredit both tweets in one go.
But the first deleted tweet by Hananya Naftali is true.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 18, 2023 12:12 PM
Reply to  skit

It should be made absolutely clear to the Israeli psychopaths that any attempt by them to muzzle the UK Press will be seen as an immediate end to diplomatic relations between the two countries.

Furthermore, it must be made absolutely clear that any Mossad operative found in the UK will have zero right to human rights.

Finally, any Jew wishing to live in the UK must explicitly sign a document stating that Jews are NOT God’s Chosen People, that Jews do NOT have the right to treat non-Jews worse than Jews and that the Torah is an absolutely disgusting and racist document that no humane person could ever believe to be God’s truth…..

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Oct 18, 2023 2:40 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

You and fucking Adolf 🙄 😅

Try this attention-seeking behaviour out in more easily-shocked fora. You’re posing as a scientist here, remember. A2

gorden
gorden
Oct 18, 2023 5:37 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

take a chill pill honey try pending youself for a change

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Oct 18, 2023 10:22 PM
Reply to  gorden

So you agree all UK Jews should be forced to sign papers I take it? More pathetic attempts to shock by a bedraggled contingent of trolls who clearly don’t believe the shit they’re instructed to spew and who would rather be anywhere but here. That’s what makes it so contrived, btw. Those clocking in and out have no organic reason to be here.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 19, 2023 10:22 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Im absolutely with you here. Its an attempt to sew racial division.
Many of the Israeli population are hard suffering from this their own government action too.
No one in this world gets more peace and safety from this false flag operation.

Howard
Howard
Oct 18, 2023 4:22 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

You’re approaching this from the wrong angle, I believe. Being “God’s Chosen People” is a good thing – because what it actually means is “The Tooth Fairy’s Chosen People” or “Santa Claus’s Chosen People.”

Just leave it be. The absurdity of such a claim is obvious on its face.

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 18, 2023 7:57 PM
Reply to  Howard

A visit from St. Nicholas first published on 12-23-1823

Now those were some patient foreseeing, cats.

Seansaighdeoir
Seansaighdeoir
Oct 18, 2023 4:24 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

The Torah is simply the first 5 books of the bible.

I think you are referring to the Talmud which is a rabbinical interpretation of the Torah and open to any meaning each Rabbi wants to give.

Anarchos
Anarchos
Oct 18, 2023 12:57 PM
Reply to  skit

Universo Parallelo, the company behind the festival, is an Israeli front for cocaine dealing and money laundering, with the main event held in Brazil. The so-called “psychedelic trance” music scene has for over 15 years been largely an Israeli international business that also operates as a brainwashing machine for young Israelis and other trust fund kids from around the planet who think taking large amounts of LSD and being exposed to that so-called “music ” for days on end is “enlightening”.
The abominable “Psy trance” is the soundtrack of the IDF much like heavy metal music is for the US army.

EarlofSuave
EarlofSuave
Oct 18, 2023 1:53 PM
Reply to  skit

God chose these people??

wardropper
wardropper
Oct 18, 2023 3:05 PM
Reply to  EarlofSuave

I reckon the people God chose are long gone.

But, give it another 5,000 years, and maybe they’ll be back…

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Oct 19, 2023 10:23 PM
Reply to  wardropper

5000 years? But…….what about me??

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Oct 18, 2023 10:41 PM
Reply to  skit

Yes, we should take what is reported with a hefty pinch of salt after Covid demonstrated that journalism is an international production company, and under no circumstances should we become emotionally invested, since that is clearly the objective.

skit
skit
Oct 19, 2023 11:30 AM
Reply to  skit

ps: a day later.

I think “259.9 Ravers” is the key box office hit to understanding the situation. It shows us that some form of assault on Gaza had already been planned by Israel–aligned with NATO and the EU–in shifting focus from Ukraine to Iran: a more promising conflct for the MIC.

(However there are always some unpleasant surprises: I don’t think Israel realized Hamas might walk away alive and with some real IDF personnel as hostages and NATO didn’t expect Israel to actually bomb a hospital and carpet bomb Gaza in the way it has).

I believe the paragliders were filmed in advance of Oct 7. The sequels (dashcam footage and hostage taking footage) trying to answer doubts about the Paragliding Hit film use a completely different set of actors!!!!

Had Israeli hired ME as the Continuity Person I’d have fixed that problem for them.

This is the video from Telegraph of paragliders taking off.

No footage of landing and disentangling which would be a kind of key moment for IDF to shoot them dead. Oh right, security was on coffee break at the festival that is a few km from a dangerous border.

–Once they land Paraglider Boys morph into Different Boys who look and dress completely differently: eg NBC, CNN etc. show a large Israeli guy being taken “hostage” by two unarmed guys who don’t look remotely Palestinian compared to the hundreds of men I’ve seen in footage from Gaza. And an Israeli girl is taken hostage by Man on Motorcycle.

DID HE BRING THE MOTORCYCLE ON THE PARAGLIDER? If they had that many motorcycles why paraglide??

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Oct 18, 2023 11:37 AM

Of course they knew the attack was coming…
Sheep yet again sucking up the MSM propaganda.
Banging pots and pans soon for Israel..big sigh.

David Ho
David Ho
Oct 18, 2023 11:33 AM

To describe the incursions being undetected as a failure of Intelligence and the very delayed response as a failure of procedure is completely ridiculous. Such “failures” are entirely implausible when stacked up against all that has happened. Everyone in the play, the Israelis, the Western Intelligence, key people in Hamas all knew exactly the purpose and consequence of this “attack”.

les online
les online
Oct 18, 2023 11:30 AM

Allowed to happen ? Well, i dunno…
It’s claimed two IDF units, 800 in each,
were timely withdrawn from the jailbreak area.
Had they not been withdrawn,
the break-out would have appeared
like a mass suicide attack…
Bad PR for the escapees , and
confirmation for many of their stupidity…

Josh
Josh
Oct 18, 2023 11:22 AM

That’s stupid (Palestinian/Iranian/RuSSian/Chinese…) propaganda bullshit. That’s why those shitholes must be destroyed once and for all NOW!!!

Howard
Howard
Oct 18, 2023 4:05 PM
Reply to  Josh

Or better still: destroy the eyes and ears of everyone who buys into the propaganda. But then who would be left to mind the store?

Edwige
Edwige
Oct 18, 2023 10:15 AM

I’ve heard one source mention an Israeli whistleblower who claimed there was a “stand-down order” but I’ve heard no subsequent details and searching finds nothing. Anyone know more? Certainly the Israeli response seems to have been suspiciously sluggish….

….about as sluggish as the ICC in issuing war crimes’ indictments. I guess we’ll be waiting a long time for those.

An attack on Iran was exactly what Alan ‘Underpants’ Dershowitz seemed to be calling for. However last time there was tension with Iran Biden did nothing so maybe this has more to do with the struggle for Democrat nomination.

Finally, events seem designed to push Saudi Arabia further into the Chinese orbit. This is of course on top of the moves not long ago concerning the petrodollar.

BTW anyone wanting to read a mainstream historian arguing that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor beforehand should try John Toland’s ‘Infamy’.

October
October
Oct 18, 2023 12:38 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Glad to see you think of him as ‘underpants’ too  😀 

I’m hoping his cancelling of all those who don’t agree with him will at last expose him for what he is.

Johnny
Johnny
Oct 18, 2023 9:43 AM

‘without the assistance of the United States and its allies,’

Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and several South American countries were all part or complete failures of the US war machine and its allies.

If Israel needs ‘assistance’ they might do better giving Putin a call.
He’d probably tell them to fuck off.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 18, 2023 12:37 PM
Reply to  Johnny

It’s almost worth the hassle of being Prime Minister if it gave you the chance to tell Netanyahu to fuck off, eh?

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 18, 2023 8:04 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Then nobody picks up the phone, hearts are broken, and all hell breaks loose.

Betch ya can’t wait for it, it is the hardest part.

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 18, 2023 8:01 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Its the system that needs the assistance, in the name of all these failures.

niko
niko
Oct 18, 2023 9:07 AM

Which number New Pearl Harbor will this be? I’ve lost track.

Eispickel
Eispickel
Oct 18, 2023 10:57 AM
Reply to  niko

More like USS Liberty 2.0

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
Oct 18, 2023 12:39 PM
Reply to  Eispickel

Have all the navy guys on the US warships been told to make wills before going on active duty?

It would be the final insult being executed as acceptable collateral damage and then having the US Government seize all your assets due to intestacy, eh??

underground poet
underground poet
Oct 18, 2023 8:05 PM
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

They made it when they signed up, they just were not officially told.

We’ll put it in the index file and wait till the bombs start flying before we give it up.