Russia’s Finance Ministry says (again) that the digital ruble will replace cash
The transition to CBDCs will be completely voluntary, though. You needn’t worry!
Riley Waggaman
A centralized, programmable currency that cares
Alexei Moiseev, Russia’s deputy minister of finance, is the world’s most candid space lizard. When he announced in a September 2021 interview that “the digital ruble is a replacement for the cash ruble”, skeptics and haters spread hurtful rumors that Moiseev’s refreshing and award-winning honesty had been taken out of context.
Here’s what Mr. Moiseev told RIA Novosti two years later, on October 30, 2023:
Essentially, [the digital ruble] is the real currency of the 22nd or any other century, which at the end of the day must replace cash.
He also promised that the digital ruble would be more “convenient” than cash and non-cash transactions. Safety and convenience are the guiding principles of the 21st century, so it’s easy to imagine that the 22nd century will be extremely safe and outrageously convenient.
source: ria.ru
But just to be 100% clear: Elvira Nabiullina and her devoted blog-admirers promise that Russians will never be coerced into using digital rubles.
The gradual transition to CBDCs will be an organic process—a naturally occurring result of Extreme Convenience. Russians will never be prevented from using cash in certain situations, even though this is already happening right now, today, in 2023.
But that’s neither here nor there. As the Bank of Russia’s universally loved chairwoman said just yesterday, Russians will always be allowed to decide how they receive their salaries and pensions—that is her current “position” and it would be rude to even consider the possibility that this position might change.
Just like it would be uncouth to think that the Bank of Russia’s position on placing restrictions on how digital rubles can be spent (“coloring” them) would ever change.
All Russians understand how convenient and voluntary the 21st and 22nd centuries will be. Just look at what they’re saying on the internet forums:
source: yaplakal.com
Riley Waggaman is your humble Moscow correspondent. He worked for RT, Press TV, Russia Insider, yadda yadda. In his youth, he attended a White House lawn party where he asked Barack Obama if imprisoned whistleblower Bradley Manning (Chelsea was still a boy back then) “had a good Easter.” Good times good times. You can subscribe to his Substack here, or follow him on twitter or Telegram.
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If it is digital it can be hacked. If it can be hacked it most certainly will be hacked.
The future of the free world does not include a “global reserve currency” style Fedcon slash Blipcoin owned by the money changers and globally imposed as the Pentacon Kissinger Saudi Mercan IOU petroscrip toilet paper dollah was, whatever about being imposed on USSAN and Europeon debt slaves only too happy to exist in their cashless, electronic gulags “all watched over by machines of loving grace” as they jab their electro thingies In lieu of using a brain to “purchase” their Latte dumbass I’m a moron five buck starschmucks zio piss “coffee”. In a world of NSA slash CIA hacking gone mad, run as these criminal enterprises are by murderous thugs and sociopaths, how the hell can an unknown App like Blipcoin suddenly be “wealth” and how in God’s name can gold be purged from human DNA after 5000 years functioning as real money simply because the shamanic Satanic banksters in the West and the Pedophile Politburo in Natostan ghetto Brussels no longer have any and the brain dead Millennials with their prosthetic blinking plastic gizmo brains, never managed to grasp what in fact real money is? The simple answer is that actual physical money such as gold can’t be purged and replaced with fiat or blips or BS and try as the globo mob might it won’t get purged and in the end when the electricity inevitably goes out the surviving Millennials will wake the hell up or go belly up when their “survival” Apps no longer bring home the bacon.
Apart from that the instability and the vicarious nature of this illusory phenomenon Bitcoin and the rest of their worthless digi fiat responding at the incredible velocity of 5 transactions per second and its ever expanding blockchain snaking and dragging its ledger of digital minutiae through the “ether of things” Bitcoin is positively Flintstonian in its power. Visa can pump debt at 50 thousand scams a second and YouTube can process over 350 thousand delusions per second. And still some folks imagine this ethereal “currency” WILL go global and can’t be jammed and hacked and will always be an anonymous tool of the “people”! Good luck with that when the big money decides to pull the plug not to mention when the much ballyhooed Korean EMP (or anyone else’s) fries USSA and the lights go out for 20 years. Then of course it will be way too late and the lucky gardeners who got out on time will be able to “invest” their leftovers in the latest fiat Fedcon scam and the rigged “market” chosenite con job can continue on its merry way in our cashless gulag “all watched over by machines of loving grace” for the next century of usurious terror; at least the chosenite mob and their political whores have it figured that way.
Shlomo Satoshi San send very big tanks to all loyal b€£iever$ from refuge of heavenly Blipcoin Temple and say may Blip be with you now and when light go out.
Rival nations on both sides of every conflict have some important trends in common. Preparations are being made to adopt digital I.D. and Central Bank Digital Currencies worldwide. Ukraine, while at war with Russia, has issued digital I.D.s with digital wallets. Russia is issuing its’ own digital currency. At least one hundred countries are developing CBDCs. A feature of these digital currencies is programmability. The use of your own money will be monitored and regulated in any way that those with authority may choose. The Bank for International Settlements has proposed a Universal Ledger to register and to control ownership of assets.
https://markgresham.substack.com/p/creative-destruction
The way it works is that certain organisations become ‘cash free’: you are already seeing it at sports stadia, where if you want to buy food or drinks in the stadium you have to pay using a card or your mobile device.
I don’t really care if anyone knows that I bought a beer at a football game, but I do care very much if I am making private purchases which have zero to do with MI5, MI6, Mossad, CIA, Keir Starmer, Boris Johnson, Rishi Sunak, and any other peepshow perverts who think they have the right to know everything about my private transactions.
Nothing electronic is private and any liar that says it is should have their bloodlines wiped out.
There will never be an honest discussion about the difference between privacy and instrusion until the death sentence is imposed upon the lying predators who are tryuing to impose this crap on people.
When they know that they will die if they lie, they will tell the truth.
When they tell the truth, they know that they will be completely rejected, out of hand, due to their total contempt for the right to privacy.
You are living in 19 century, in 21 century there is no such thing as “private”, we are all only a part of a bigger plan and entity. We are all connected like borgs and anyone who dare to endanger our unity must be immediately reeducated! I have a question but what the fu.k is third parties to the food what I eat? I don´t want mossad to know that I like non kosher food.
Rather than the death sentence, I favour jail for life, with continuous surveillance. Governments are already holding many people in this manner without trial.
Irrepressible cash or disciplined digital? Freedom or captivity? Russia is taking the realistic approach to the unescapable reality which will financially incarcerate its citizens – but at least they are open about it, unlike the secretive slime balls who rule western currencies.
Whatever means used to manipulate dozy sheep the final result effect will be same – total control for the globalist elite Preventing the inevitable by preferring otherwise is fool’s gold.
What a depressive piece. Whatever the sheep will choose its their choice….free will!
WEF’s little guru Yuval Harikiri says that free will is gone. Humans have no free will. Free will is an illusion.
As AI will take over all thoughts, ideas, emotions, inventions, AI will always be more intelligent than us and will therefore lead us, yes Madame?
But you know we have ups and downs, good and bad, black and white, heaven and hell.
All right where is heaven? Heaven is up in the sky.
Where is hell? Hell is down where we buried Grandpa. Deeper the inner earth is one gigantic ball of 2000 C ferro/stone/metals melting oven. Here is Hell.
The globalist elite will be able to control those totally who choose by free will to bow and look down in their shit phone where their ID got hijacked and their soul bought..
Call us fools gold but we who stand up and look straight to the sky, we still feel the sun and can never be enslaved.
So back to Facebook where you are popular and get all your doo likes Maria. “To go against the Devil is “fool’s gold”………………….LOL.
Forgive her Father because she doesnt know what she is doing.
How wonderfully witty Riley is in his devastating analysis. I love how both he and Kit Knightly can be elegant and amusing as well as politically so astute. Two of my favorite writers.
Mr. Moiseev can say all the shit he wants, just like Schwab, Gates, and all the others, but they aren’t my boss. I know a lot of people who don’t think so either, i.e., fuck them. So, if those here want to fret about it, buck up and resist or join in, man. Good grief.
Opposition will be crushed, some people think that they can survive somewhere in wild in own farm etc.. with community, but it is bull..it. They announce that land when you live is from now on non-interventionist national park and they get you out of there. No one will do s.t as we see with so called pandemic. They killed millions and no one was held responsible no public hanging of perpetrators of this crimes.
CBDC = / WEF Authoritarianism existed long before the WEF
CBDC means middlemen- banks – are bypassed between a Central bank and citizens. No use for them anymore.
Russia must be part of the game too. No difference to the West.
Just an aside….
Cash is neither king nor safe. Yet another report of someone losing a bunch of money to ‘civil asset forfeiture’ in the US.What this means is that if the authorities suspect that any money or other assets you’re in possession of are going to be used, or the result of, criminal activity they’ll confiscate them. There doesn’t have to be any conviction or even a crime. You can sue to get it back but its difficult, long winded, expensive and will probably not result in all the assets being returned. It is, to put it simply, legal theft.
Since law enforcement gets a cut they’ve got a ‘pecuniary interest’ in seizing assets. This can sometimes — all too rarely — result in changes, like for example the incident where various authorities including the National Parks Services raided a cabin in the Santa Monica Mountains and (accidentally) shot the person living there dead. The ostensible reason for this was a mairjuana grow but the actual reason is the NPS want the property — it would have been confiscated under forefeithre rules and they would have got it. (More recently the San Bernadino Sheriff’s Department had taken to stopping the secure vans used to transfer cash between marijuana sales outlets — remember this is perfectly legal in California, the companies just can’t use the banking system because its under Federal jurisdiction and so still illegal. They stopped and seized, pulling about two million each time. Nice pickings, shared between SBSD and the Highway Patrol. Unfortunately for them the people they picked on had deep pockets and great legal representation. But…..however you slice ‘n dice it if the government wants it then it takes it, even in the US.
Incidentally, the US isn’t the only country to have these sorts of laws. The UK police will also confiscate money or assets judged — by them — to be “the proceeds of crime”. Its up to you to prove otherwise.
Another shill soft-selling CBDC by saying cash isn’t so safe either. Can’t help noticing you and NickM are playing exactly the same card. Wall of text with general message “it’s blurry, maybe CBDC ain’t so bad”. Hmmm…
Hold silver
I wont tell you how many $billions of Bitcoins, Ethereums, Aadhaar, got lost in cyberspace with no chance of getting them back.
Cash is full of Corona virus, Ebola, Small Pox, hookers, you name it, are dirty money and always subject to pocket thieves and armed robbery.
Its DANGEROUS to owe cash. Plus gold are null and to be compared with flint stones you can find on the beach.
Augustin Carstens and the Doo Central Banks will take care of this garbage for you in exchange of REAL E-money directly in you E-wallet.
(sarc)
Today’s Youth have received praise for being dexterous,
because they can text-type with one hand while
masturbating with the other – (multiskilled ?) – though
some regard it as masturbating with both hands…
Most of the young Folks I see typing on their digital appendages seem to be two thumb typists.
The onanism must come(?) later.
A more in depth look at the digital rubble and the Russian Federation banking system!
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/russias-cbdc-exploring-the-truth?utm_medium=reader2
This has been addressed (destroyed) by Slavsquat:
https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/elvira-nabiullina-is-the-kindest
Devastating! Simplicius seems like an unctuous deceiver. Did he or will he respond?
“This has been addressed..” Hmm, I would read Simplicus’s article in depth first rather than relying on Your man in Moscow’s opinions !
Here is one snippet from the in depth article which your man in Moscow fails to mention along with many others!
“ In 2014, there were 923 commercial lenders in Russia. Last year, some 370 remained in business. RCB data shows over 600 private banks have lost their licenses under Nabiullina’s tenure.
Read this very carefully:
“Nabiullina has completely destroyed the private banking system of the Russian Federation. Due to her activities, it collapsed into one big state banking system, controlled by Nabiullina herself and her people. She has been performing her activities since 2013, consistently closing private banks”, a financial sector source said in Moscow.
Interesting, wouldn’t you say? And given the fact that Nabiullina is Putin’s chosen, who served as his previous personal economic advisor, we can only surmise that this was a Putin operation through and through, to destroy the Western banking cartel influence over Russia and centralize Russian banking under the state, as it should be.
The article even mentions how Putin “personally approved” of one of the big stated bank sales, lending credence to this angle, and also support to the idea that Putin was supervising Nabiullina’s hatchet job on the Western-owned-and-invested financial industry. “
Let’s not forget, although your man in Moscow does, that Putin imprisoned and booted out the High Priest’s Central Bankers envoy, Khordokovsky in order to prevent the total dismemberment of the Russian Federation.
Putin had no choice. He had been squeezed to do so against his will. Ukraine was also against his will.
Only a few years ago Western investors were still sucking large amounts of dividends out of Russia’s biggest oil and gas and alum companies.
Squeezed by yet more sanctions, provocations, white washing of Russian money out of Russia from St. Petersborg to Western banks, cheap gold out from Vladivostok, regime change attempts and wars in Kazakhstan, Armenia, Ukraine, Kremlin could not “please our dear Western partners” more, but was forced from inside to close the money river out of Russia by Russia’s own big Oligarchs.
So was it Putin who closed them, or was it Western Corps who sucked all out what they could to the last drop until the wallet was empty and then left?
Evidence please !
“Crisis is a feeling we carry around with us. Seems there’s
always a bloody crisis awaiting when i get out of bed every day !”…(anon)…
“The 2/3 of any population the sheeple will finally wake up, show a bone and show CGDC the winter”, said the crowd from down below.
https://youtu.be/cZiAxPXoLs0
In related news from today:
“Final agreement on EU Digital Identity Wallets expands scope of regulations”:
https://www.biometricupdate.com/202311/final-agreement-on-eu-digital-identity-wallets-expands-scope-of-regulations
Do you have all of your booster shot? No.
Sorry, no money for you
Your alternative update on #COVID19 for 2023-11-08. “Cause Unknown” death Is A Crime & A Cover-Up. Star chamber removal @P_McCulloughMD’s certification (blog, gab, tweet, pic1, pic2, pic3, pic4).
There was a very good one-page leaflet on CBDC’s that was floating around a month or so ago- does anyone have this or know of one?
It wasn’t a meme it was one side of one page with about 8-10 bullet points- no illustrations.
Something like this Maxwell?
https://www.keepcashalive.com/
That’s good.
What I was looking for was an informational flyer that gives details about the problems with CBDC’s. Had it and made some copies and handed out some and seem to have lost it.
Riley, you just don’t get it. When Russia’s regime does exactly what regimes in the “Collective West” do, stuff which we rightly condemn, IS GOOD! They do it on behalf of the people, of the nation, not out of self interest or totalitarian intent. “Our regimes bad, BRICS good.” 😂
Thanks, Riley!! Keep up the great work!
Someone said the black market will take the place left vacant when legal cash is withdrawn. People with no access to money will not sit and starve. Innovation will inevitably begin.
Criminals won’t use CBDC to sell their purloined good I think! Nor will people buying drugs or other nefarious items.
So there is hope!
I read Americans during the Great Reset from 1929-1934 were banned from owing and trading gold with 10 years of prison penalty time.
The ban on gold in US lasted 40 years. The bankers were really pessed on real money from decent work.
We better get used to camps, quarantines, jail and prison time for barter trade, labour, rainwater, off grid and gold exchange between we the people.
Hope is the thing with feathers that never asks anything of us but to heed its little song. We ALL need it. Real hope that is, not hopium
“Am i the only one whose name is not in Jeffrey’s little black book,
or am i just not important ?”…(anon)…
Funnily enough, I went to the ‘bank’ the other day (by ‘bank’ I mean a woman with a laptop at the local library – the actual bank shut last year.) I needed to transfer some ‘money’ – turned out I can’t ‘cos my decidedly unsmart phone is too old to download the app. I’ve had the same trouble with the doctor and the dentist – no smartphone, no can do. Now I’ve now got to buy one in order to access and transfer ‘my’ ‘money’ – which I can’t do unless the ‘bank’ sends an authorisation code to my shitphone which can’t download the fucking app!
Talking of vicious cycles and the digitised direction of travel (“It’s safer, more convenient and extremely involuntary”); “high-powered money” (M1) — cash or currency — is now only ~3% of ‘money’. Most people work on average 90,000hrs of their life for digitised <0, 1>s which amounts to real-time labour for the reward of a biodigital mortgage or “death-wage” (which some can’t even access now!)
Ex nihilo nihil fit – <“nothingness comes from nothing” excepting money>. Everybody knows that monetised binary code is ‘lent into existence’ at a keystroke; and those keystrokes have innate compounding interest figured in (digital code compounding digital code) and yet we all agree that money continues to hold value? Our lives are controlled by the software we work for on a globalised neural networked computer system that requires real-time labour across a lifetime to pay off compounded nothingness – that’s digitised nihilism for you.
Across the world whole populations are working for interest-bearing digitised nothingness that for some countries means the need to create 80-90% of GDP just to service the debasement of digitised debt. This dehumanising manifest evil is at least partially controlled by corruptible ‘credit rating apartheid’ which means that their children and their children’s children will be producing our consumer goods whilst never paying off some compounded nothingness that went straight offshore into some dictator’s pocket – all of which is empty conventional speechsound because the money never existed, no transference was made, no interest was paid, and no balance will ever be reached outside the networked neural net of imperially imposed valorisation (valor impositus) and symbolic agreement that regulates human life these days.
Only the working is real-time, the reward is imaginary-symbolic. Actualised suffering and dehumanisation that only seems to be instrumentalised in order to keep this evil charade going. Some people only seem to want to mourn the loss of digitised economic ‘freedom and liberty’ – whichever is some sort of pathological perversion of life and mutated symbolic value-creation out of nothingness. Not only is the supermajority of the whole economic population subordinated to digitised nihilation; their working for nothing requires material resources and energy-complexity — mutated into the form of our commodities and ‘value-adding chains’ — to transfer the living people and the living earth into a superabundance of annihilative nothingness – ex nihilo nihil fit – digital nihilism comes from nothingness and returns the earth to nothing for everybody.
The ethics of digital currency: WTF is it that this human convention of excessive usury is in psychiatric demand of? If the future of entire peoples and the whole earth are collateral for digital currency demand – hadn’t we better reconsider the ‘law of money’, change it and render it useless? Because it is no longer a ‘store of value’ or means or medium of exchange – but a means of furthering excessive annihilative demanding no amount of work and no amount of material resources can meet. It has taken on a life-affirmation and insatiable appetivity of its own; and all the people assembled in its currency and future-contingency are already owned for life — even before they are born…. But only in the imprint, image and name-only (numisma) of our future psychiatric demanding.
We could agree to disagree with the imposed values of globalised economic convention the end the ‘extremely unsafe’ and ‘outrageously inconvenient’ manifest evil of desire-money and consummate Fetishism…. Before it ends us.
Every form of money is a sacrilege, even the mythical “sound money” sometimes presented as the solution to the modern problem of deliberately unsound “fiat money.” It is a sacrilege because it makes life worse; no other argument need ever be made. Economic theory casts debt-based money as a necessary evil, demonstrating the necessity with a hypothetical money-free world, in which no business larger than that of a village blacksmith can come into existence — the capital requirements for startup are unreachable — or remain in existence — the liquidity required for resilient operation under changing economic circumstances does not exist.
These arguments ignore the only meaningful measure of the value of any element of the system: does the existence of businesses larger than a village blacksmith make life better or worse? The Native Americans (of the northern continent, at least) had no money of any kind. They had no businesses even of the scale of a village blacksmith. Were they suffering? Were the horses they didn’t have crying out for metal shoes? Was their life made better by the introduction of money? Nobody would argue that it was. Would it have turned out better for them if sound money had been introduced instead of debt-based money? Nobody would argue that it would have.
Every single step our species has taken since the invention of this evil has been a disastrous mistake. Technical and philosophical reforms to the concept could only ever, if successful, roll us back to an earlier stage of immiseration. The solution is obvious: get rid of it. Get rid of it later today, or tomorrow morning at the latest. People will die, but everybody dies anyway. It is not only immoral, it is unforgivably stupid to collectively mandate the eternal persistence of every mistake simply because the corrective actions would steal from some of us a few years of humiliation and misery.
“Chase the money-lenders out of The Temple !” ?
Incomplete solution. It leaves the denarius in circulation.
The guillotine?
Problematic. Some blame the Roman Empire’s decline and fall on its sliver-by-sliver guillotining of the denarius. Better a non-existent currency than a debased one!
The “ethics of money” (digital or not) is concerned with the ends we put money to. Money is not evil: the human ends of money (as means) are evil. The distinction goes all the way back to Aristotle — between natural or unnatural “chrematistics”; where the unnatural end of money is the “enrichment of enrichment.”
Money frees us from the restrictive “double-coincidence of wants” when the buyer and seller have to have exchangeable products (beef for candles and so on) as the basis of “truck and barter.” Without “general-purpose money”; you would have to pay for my carpentry with your skills — providing I want or need your skills.
If you are a doctor or a dentist — we have a deal…. But you can see how restricted non-market or pre-market economies were and would be. We are long, long way past the “Kula Ring” of reciprocity, redistribution of excessive wealth and altruism which characterised early forms of “special-purpose money”.
We are stuck with extending the “monetary mandate”; we are not stuck with following this to its logical conclusion. We could use GPM to save us from GPM and then cancel whatever debt we end up owing ourselves — by restructuring finance (and finance has already been restructured numerous times in order to extend itself.)
There is a lot in the sound money or positive money approach; but we need to start thinking ecologically, not economically. To restructure money, we have to restructure the psyche from an insatiable demanding to a satiated resonance with community and ecology — something that seems to be a very distant utopia at the moment.
I still contend that money is the evil, and that in freeing us from the double-coincidence of wants, it trapped us in world of where secondary desires are so easily fulfilled that true primary needs have become unfulfillable. Money enables division of labor and specialization, but why do we need distinct occupations? Why do we need carpenters and dentists? Do they make life better, or only more convenient? Is convenience good or bad?
There is a base level of true needs — food, shelter, and a tribe being the most significant — and these are easily satisfied in primitive societies with no have no concept of money, and whom nobody in the 21st century would argue with a straight face were truly suffering for want of convenience.
So why do we need division of labor? Before carpentry was carved out of the general skillset by division-of-labor, every member of the tribe was taught how to build a hut, and could thus survive a hunting expedition in inclement weather far from the comforts of the village — and could teach the skill to his children. After division-of-labor, only a jealous, secretive guild is in possession of these formerly universal skills.
Primitive life is the only life for which humans have evolved, which mean it’s the life to which our bodies and minds were carefully attuned over eons of evolution. We need the same adventures, struggles, triumphs and defeats that any pack animal needs, we’re just not allowed to live that way anymore — money won’t let us — and as a result our lives are effectively meaningless. There is nothing in modern life that approaches the significance of a tribe’s daily struggle for survival.
I saw that some UK politician was put in the dog house a few days ago for saying something that I myself have said on occasion: that, for some people, homelessness is a choice. It’s true. Some people simply can’t make the trade: struggle for convenience. Why would they? It’s a one-sided trade. A convenient life is a life with no stories, no victories or valiant deaths, no heroes or or villains… no gods. In the mead halls of the homeless encampment, there are yet Beowulfs and Grendels.
But even in the tent cities, tribes are voluntary associations, and thus doomed to dissolution. I think that’s the primary purpose of civilization: to dissolve tribes. It does so by making them unnecessary. People that don’t need each other will come to hate each other and drift apart — this is an in-built psychic feature which incentivizes the fission and propagation of tribes in times of excessive comfort and convenience. Convenience pushes people apart until life becomes difficult enough, or the remaining tribe small enough, that they need each other again.
Civilization put an end to that carefully balanced system. Civilization is convenience without end, life without a tribe.
Money begat specialization begat civilization: so there’s a hierarchy of evils, with money at the base. And there’s a significant similarity between the mechanisms and effects of inflationary fiat money and civilization. Monetary inflation (via money printing) is a stealth tax, a theft of value from savers without a corresponding change in the balance of their accounts. The value is drained from savers and given to the holders of the newly printed money, the central bank.
Civilization does the same thing but with meaning and purpose. Technically, our wants and needs are still satisfied, but the satisfaction of needs comes with less and less joy as the millennia roll by. The number doesn’t change, but the value is inexorably drained away by a greedy, inhuman thing that none of us voted for.
Money facilitates exchange and storage of value. However, it also facilitates inflation, cheating, limitless greed and cruelty. Its biggest social impacts are subverting individual credibility (reputation) and communal cohesion.
All living things depend on a Universal Currency. It was invented by bacteria and we inherit it from them. Biochemists call it ATP (Adenosine Tri-Phosphate). Some day we humans might invent a universal currency that is even remotely as good; the digital yuan seems to be our best current attempt.
It is interesting that the heirs of the Pilgrim Fathers had to genocide 100 Million Redskins in order for the U$A to build up a population of 300 Million. Considering the vast resources that go into maintaining that 300M, the march of progress does not seem very efficient.
We can look at money as metabolism — as a process of matter-energy transformation — as energy conservation; if money is the “form-giving fire” then we are so far past the critical stage of the fever, it’s amazing we are still alive! If the market is one thing — homoeostatic it ain’t!
If you’ve ever spent any time in the forested areas of North America, you wouldn’t believe that there were ever “100 Million Redskins.” The carrying capacity of virgin forest is much, much lower. I would more easily believe that the population at the time of contact was lower than the number of deaths in WWII.
The tragedy isn’t in the number of corpses, it’s in the loss of a perfectly balanced continent-wide biome in which humans were inseparable from nature. What are the chances that half of the world could go unnoticed by civilization until only five hundred years ago!?! And how could civilization have been so unthinking as to destroy it completely without first inquiring as to how and why it worked so well for so long? It was our one great chance to back out of a colossal mistake, ruined by the great thinkers of the Enlightenment, who debunked their own irrelevant myths of “noble savages” and dismissed the entire concept of Nature Unruined as mindless violence, “red in tooth and claw.”
Really good comment.
Look UP in the heaven from where life come from: Our light, our drinking water, our warm, our D-vitamine.
Solar economy — here we come…. one way or another. Any real value is, where it always was — in the top six inches of the earth.
Yeah, people have managed to confuse ‘money’ with the next breath without which……..
Back to basics folks. Time to consider ‘what really matters.’
The System has become autonomous…
No one has control…
And The Band plays on
As the ocean sucks us – down…
Absolutely! I’m a huge fan of Jacque Ellul and his conception of Technique. <We created our Technique, and then our Techniques created us>. We have become the biodigital “tools of our tools” which was a common notion when I was a boy. Now the prevalent notion seems to be that we are ‘free’ and technology serves us — but to what purpose and to what end?
Currently, we are “waving, but not yet drowning”. We could repurpose the ethical end of money to “keep us afloat” ecologically, but not economically.
We have left ourselves with a simple binary judgement: to save the critical infrastructure of the ‘self-regulating market-economy’ or save the actually self-regulating world ecology. If we can see that money is nothingness — the choice is already made.
Brilliant!
For everyone else, have you come across the Positive Money site?
http://www.positivemoney.org/consequences/consequences-of-debt-based-money-video/in-depth/
Your second para reminds me of Solzhenitsyn’s old lady in “Matriona’s House”. All her life Matriona had “worked for ticks” in a ledger; and when she died she had accumulated enough ticks to own a house for her heirs to fight over,
Funnily enough, I haven’t had that problem. I don’t have a “smart” phone and refuse to participate and there are ways around it. It can be inconvenient, but that’s the way it is. You need to try harder dude. This is a fucking war, not a time for esoteric bullshit.
It doesn’t matter if we support or reject CBDCs, the only factor relevant to the success of the change-over is how quickly it’s effected, and this is why I think it will fail even without an organized — or disorganized but energetic — resistance movement. History, both macro and micro, shows that humans do not react well (i.e., predictably) to sudden changes, and that they don’t react at all to gradual changes. But recent history has seemingly taught our overlords a different lesson: even the sudden, wrenching changes of the lockdown era were well-tolerated.
It’s a good thing, from our perspective as dissenters, that they studied this lesson because it’s not true. Our strange non-reaction to COVID was a platypus: impossible in theory, unprecedented in natural history, and yet there it was blinking back at them from the swamps at the bottom of the world. There’s only one platypus, though. The COVID complacency was not a kiss to build a dream on, but they think it was — they think we’re in love with suppression, isolation and despair. They are, in effect, an AI trained on poisoned data. Because they learned this lesson, their predictions will be no better than chance and their inferences will be about a world other than this one.
They will try to rush the CBDCs, and the result will be chaos. We should cheer them on, lest they tarry unnecessarily. Sudden changes accelerate their demise, not ours.
Sorry, I can’t share your confidence that the next time will be better. The public obedience to covid tyranny didn’t really surprise me for the most part. I would need good reasons to change my mind.
Fair enough. I admit that I’ve never made a valid prediction… or even been in the ballpark. But, then, neither has anybody else. Every scheme is a bet on the scheme’s successful implementation. At least now the rest of the gamblers in the space are aware of the intentions of the winners of the last round, and have piled up their bets in opposition. It’s much harder to win the same bet twice in a row.
Granted, there is a greater awareness among a certain segment of the population now.
It surprised me though but now I know unfortunately.
Me too. It was a tremendous psychic shock, and not because I had any faith in human wisdom. I’d just never seen an entire planet surrender to an imaginary invasion force before.
The COVID plot did fall apart eventually. It couldn’t be maintained indefinitely, though they certainly wanted it to be. The CBDC plot is intended from the outset to be a permanent change, where COVID was at least presented as a temporary pandemic, with some tacked-on lifestyle “suggestions” that they hoped might persist as a “new normal.” None of it persisted, though — so in that sense, COVID was a total failure.
If CBDCs don’t work forever, then they fail retroactively. That’s where my very focused optimism and accelerationism comes from: nothing has ever worked forever so far, and if they’re doomed to fail some day, I’d rather see them fail now than in seventy-five years.
But They sow Chaos…The thrive on Chaos…
History is a long story about those who gained from Chaos
(although some might say ‘History is the i
imposition of Order over Chaos’.’
Anarchist Motto: “I prefer My Own Chaos over Another’s Order !”
Same “nudging” concept all over.
Well, it comes from Head Commie Central Committee anyway, 10 year plan, 20 year plan, 50 year plan, BIS, City of London, ECB, JP Morgan, m.m.
You may not like to get it unnaturally from behind today but in the long run you will like it, said the joker to the thief.
The unaccountable private Central Bank system knew after the Sept ’19 repo-market meltdown and subsequent daily bailout, that they would have to speed-up the planned global monetary transition while maintaining tight control.
An overlapping series of ‘crisis’ were and are still needed to provide cover, while they extract every last penny of purchasing power from their old decaying system.
We are witnessing a controlled demolition of the international fiat currency system, to be replaced by CBDC for the commercial banks and a number of inter-operable approved ‘tokens’ for the population that will be needed to access most, if not all, commercial goods & services.
This dystopian panopticon will only fully manifest if we support it, spreading awareness is key since it’s a ‘numbers’ game.
Anyone else feel like they’ve had a metal bucket on their head for the last month or so which is battered with a club from right, left and centre.?
Every so often the bucket is removed to show you the “reality” of the day
Nothing that some good ol’ Russian hacking won’t fix
Can’t wait to see the verbal gymnastics NickM, Brianboru etc all perform to make this out to be BRICS defying the NWO!
Or will they just run and hide?
Come on chaps. Let’s be having you. Why does this really mean the opposite of what it says?
Presumably, the NWO would like some sort of global digital currency, that everyone in every country would use? Or does the NWO intend to let each country maintain it’s own digital currency?
As I keep on saying, the digital ruble is just a tool. Your digital cash is stored in a common digital memory bank, just like your paper or metal cash is stored in a common steel bank vault. You can take digital cash out of the common memory bank and store it in your own (suitably protected) private memory bank. It is up to you as a citizen to entsure that your representatives in government do not filch or control your digital cash by programme chicanery, same as it is up to you to make sure they don’t dilute your physical currency by printing or coining or putting a limit on withdrawal of physical currency.
First we must repeal the legal fiction that when you put your money in the bank it ceases to be your property. As far as I understand it, your contract with a bank is not a contract in which you pay bank charges for you to protect your money: instead it is a contract in which you hand over your money to the bank for them to invest as they see fit, and “promise to repay” if they have enough reserves and with currency whose purchasing power they controll.
Bloody hell Nick, you outdid yourself mate. Two paragraphs of bollocks saying bugger all and blowing a lot out smoke out your arse to cover the fact. I’ve picked the few words out that actually say anything.
Ok. Here’s some questions for you to dodge.
1 Are you saying the digital ruble is different from western cbdcs? Are you saying it’s safer? Are you saying it can’t be used to control people?
(Can I have a simple yes or no to those three questions? (yeah, like hell I will mr Smokeblower 😉))
2 Did you see the bit where it was mooted the digital ruble would be used to control how people spend their money? What do you think of that? Good or bad?
Everything else you wrote is just arse smoke. No offence.
@Did you see the bit where it was mooted the digital ruble would be used to control how people spend their money?
Its done everyday by the western system since the forming of Federal Reserve.
no it isn’t you daft bugger
We have the cumulative administrative proof, the grade A mentality, and interest rate disaster to thank from that formation.
Are you sure you are not slightly bias, completely prejudiced and a part of problem rather than an objectively thinking victim.
For instance by sales taxes to dissuade purchase and incentives to stimulate consumption; or by “sanctions” on foreign goods.
Israel had a smart control of this sort: signed an international agreement, no customs charges on certain goods but increased sales tax on same.
Not sure I get your point.
My answers: 1.No 2.Yes
If you are not saying the digital ruble is a better option than the digital currencies of the collective west, what are you saying? That a cashless society will be no worse than one with cash? You don’t think CBDCs are a bid for final and total control? The wall of rather obscure text that someone else alludes to does not make your meaning clear at all
Btw I don’t believe you can remove your virtual currency into a private account. I think that’s rather the whole point of the system. The money is not yours and you can’t own it as you can now. It’s a form of spending credit that you have to use THROUGH the system. Hence its power to control at a whole new level.
But I suspect you may already know this.
Digital money does not need to be issued as “credit” from a private banker on which you have to pay interest; and neither does physical money (ie, paper or coin). All that is needed is a “neutral” internet service that transfers information reliably and is proof against snooping or censorship; plus phones that do not have a secret “backdoor” for spying on us. Our global internet service and our private phones are going the opposite way; it is up to us citizens to reverse this malicious trend by various secret cabals of corporate power who have been steadily ganging up against the individual citizen.
Pretty disgusting that you’ll even shill for CBDC if it’s Russian. Where’s your decency?
I don’t “shill” for Sputnik RNA Vaxx even though it’s Russian. Try to face objective fact and don’t make sweeping condemnations.
That Sigil image, Oral lore stated that if a cross was doubled (one written over the other), the first cross was voided thus nullifying the contract. So, to be double crossed was to be duped into a contract or a situation not honored by the other party.
Must read article:
Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars
An elitist programming manual for total financial enslavement that corresponds with the ongoing efforts to reform the global governance system
“In 1986 a strange and appalling document was uncovered in a recently purchased surplus IBM copier by an employee from the Boeing Aircraft Company. The name on the report was Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars and it contained a technical manual on how to manipulate the masses and create a system of total control with the fittest as rulers and the lower classes as slaves. It was initially published in 1979 to celebrate 25th anniversary of the “Quiet War”, and was written for people invited to the project because of their “ability to look at human society with cold objectivity”.”
Another blow to the NWO from Russia! How many more like this can it take….
Meanwhile, Bibi’s son is at the tip of the spear:
https://www.the-express.com/news/us-news/117250/benjamin-netanyahu-son-yair-israel-war-florida
Well, Florida is kinda shaped like a spearhead.
NWO’s on the ropes mate. Ask NickM. Putin is using safe and effective RUSSIAN cbdcs which are like cryptonite to globalists.
Read what I wrote. Digital currency is no different from paper currency or coins or cowrie shells. It is up to Joe Citizen to make sure the alpha chimp doesn’t grab his banana.
Looking back at the spineless behaviour of Joe Citizen in this 21st century meekly allowing Con-911, Con-WMD, Con-Viagra, Con-Novijoke, Con-19, Con-Ukie and the blowing up of Northstream2, it is statistically unlikely that Joe Citizen will force your government to safeguard “the pound in your pocket” — whether that pound is a made of metal, paper or electrons.
But there is always a likelihood that statistics will prove wrong and Joe Citizen will control his own currency, be it digital or otherwise. I hope so.
Scene from the movie “Exodus 2023”:
“My people! I want to be with my people!!”
“Where are your people?”
“Florida”.
Any time I see “convenient” I hear “involuntary medical treatment”. I don’t know why it’s like some kind of conditioned response I guess?
Remember the old Sovjet days where opposition against the ideology communism was internated in psychiatric cliniques for treatment.
Old habits never run off mode always luring behind the curtains.
And when there’s a Telco malfunction (like there was in Australia today) or sabotage, it all turns to shit, panic reigns and the average punter loses, yet again.
WAKE UP you dopey buggers!
Thanks Riley.
It is clear what is happening.
The World is being run by a Banker oligarchy, and effective Banker Dictatorship.
The WEF, and The WHO in collusion with The Bank of International Settlements -the cabal of Central Banks.
b i s bank building the new tower of babel.
hitlers bankers in wall street
the bank of england montogue norman or was it norman montague back door deals.
back door dealing is key babylonian sodomy