Dr. Richter’s Diabolical Experiment
Todd Hayen
Ever heard of Dr. Curt Richter? Neither had I.
During the time in the United States where nearly anything was done in the name of science (these days, not so much, now anything is done in the name of money) Dr. Curt Richter, a renowned physiologist and behavioral scientist, conducted his seminal experiments on rats. He presented his most famous experiment sometime in the mid 1950’s at Johns Hopkins University.
These tests aimed to uncover the effects of despair and hopelessness on the survival rate of rats.
Apparently, the kindly scientist placed his beloved rats into buckets of water and began timing their frantic swimming. You see, the rats believed they were going to drown, and did whatever they could to save their pathetic lives.
They didn’t realize that the good doctor had a gentle soul and would rescue them before their watery demise. But he didn’t. Not at first at least. And many rats met their maker after about 15 minutes of futile paddling.
The next round of rats were the lucky ones, although some would say unlucky. These pitiful fellows were observed until the indicated exhaustion time but then plucked up out of the water in the nick of time to be daintily dried off and set out to rest. Saved.
A miracle for sure. And oh, what a relief.
After a brief stint of R&R, the rats were dumped back into their buckets, which ultimately turned out to be their watery grave after all—but not in the afore determined 15-minute exhaustion time, but rather an impressive, and miraculous SIXTY HOURS! Oh, wonders of wonders, how could it be that these tiny creatures could extend the fleeting energy it took to stay alive for so long?
Hope! Hope you say? Yes, it was hope.
They had been rescued before, so surely, they would be rescued again! They had indubitable faith in Dr. Curt, and knew he would, at the last minute, pluck them from sure death. But he didn’t. No, the good doctor wanted to see how long hope would sustain them. How long that glimmer of belief in the goodness of man could glow in the hearts and muscles of the poorest of poor beasts.
But that savior never came, and after about 60 hours (give or take a few minutes), they all finally succumbed. Once the 60-hour mark was made, surely some creatures were removed from the bucket for humanitarian reasons. But maybe not. Teaches you to have faith, eh? Well, faith in humans at least. It is hard to tell if rats are aware of God’s mercy. Maybe they are all sipping margaritas in rat heaven. Who knows.
Dr. Richter was a hero in the science world, of course. What he determined in his little reprehensible experiment is that at least rats were capable of expending energy to stay alive if they were led (falsely) to believe they would at some point be saved, i.e., their efforts to stay alive could continue almost indefinitely if they believed those efforts would pay off.
Psychologists often cite this experiment as evidence of the power of hope. It turns out our perspective can be incredibly powerful. When we are hopeful that our circumstances are temporary and change is possible, we can achieve extraordinary feats. Hope can be the factor that changes an outcome from really bad, to really good, at least with rats.
I wonder if Dr. Richter wanted (at least secretly) to try out his experiment on humans, but he was not fortunate enough to be in the middle of Germany 10 years before. The Nazis would have surely been happy to oblige.
Is that the only thing he discovered? I don’t think so. He also discovered that if you give a creature some slack, meaning if you stop torturing them for a moment, and then make them think you have saved the day, you can go back to torturing them and they will keep on taking it—happily—until they drop dead.
I am reminded of the BF Skinner experiment with pigeons. Although I cannot find documentation on this particular experiment I am going to describe, I am pretty sure it happened, although, considering my dubious state of mind these days, I very well may have made it up.
It goes like this (or so I think):
Dr. Skinner gave his little feathered friends corn kernels (or some other delicacy pigeons adore) each time the critters pecked a lever. After quite a while of brain washing the pigeons into believing that pecking the lever miraculously produced a tasty morsel, Skinner stopped providing one. The pigeons kept pecking.
After a certain number of pecks, they grew tired, and bored, and decided that maybe the lever pecking just didn’t do anything so miraculous. Then, just at the right moment, Skinner started providing corn in response to the near exhaustive pecking. (Normally, right before they would typically stop the pecking. See, he had all this figured out by keeping meticulous notes and knew exactly when that last peck would fall before the birds would give up. He was a good scientist.)
Then he would stop the corn again, once the poor birds thought they had it figured out. They would again keep pecking for a while, and ol’ Skinner would start shooting the corn out again as soon as they were about to give up. After a few rounds of this on and off again peck and corn play, the pigeons would never stop pecking. Never. Even though no corn ever came out again, peck, peck, peck.
Now THAT’S hope!
Combine these two experiments together and you’ve got something interesting. Let’s not call it “hope” but rather call it “trust”…and a strange sort of trust indeed.
The rats trusted Richter to save them after a long while of paddling. Which he did the first time, right before he was pretty certain they would die. Skinner “saved” his pigeons the same way, but with not as high a price to pay. The bird’s lived, albeit in a strange state of psychosis. They never gave up. And if the sheer exhaustion didn’t get to Richter’s rats, they would not have ever given up either.
How do we apply this to today? Well, think about it. When the great Covid scare began, our kindly government told us we were all surely going to die if we didn’t continue to swim or peck the lever. We went through all sorts of gyrations with the Covid experiment—lockdowns, social distancing, no gatherings, missed weddings, funerals, church services, businesses closed—peck, peck, peck, but no corn. And when the vaccine came out even more paddling and pecking.
Then, suddenly, we were saved! It all paid off! The corn flowed, and we were plucked out of the bucket. Covid ended, the summer was pleasant, warm (uh, no, it was boiling, wasn’t it? Oh, that’s a different story…sorry.) All was back to normal.
So how long will it be before we are thrown back in the bucket? Start paddling folks, but don’t worry, we’ll be saved again! The kind doctors have good hearts. Surely, we will be rescued.
Peck, peck.
Todd Hayen is a registered psychotherapist practicing in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. He holds a PhD in depth psychotherapy and an MA in Consciousness Studies. He specializes in Jungian, archetypal, psychology. Todd also writes for his own substack, which you can read here
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This reminds me of a book I read about Treblinka. There were some who escaped and lived to tell the story. One of the camp commanders was brought back to Germany to stand trial. He said about his job there: His did his duty, his conscience was clear. Is there a moral in these stories? I was born shortly after the war (WWII). At home and in school, the war appeared to me very prominent. Maybe it got to me more than to others of my age, but I did continue to take an interest. Looking at the world today, it is inconceivable that history will not repeat itself. In fact, it is, and has been repeating all along for most of humanity. We remember the politicians championing dictatorships. Oh, they still do, and then the writers, academics and sundry folk, especially the Left, yes. No offence. People are programmed… Read more »
I’ll have to stop coming to off-guardian if this keeps up. The reality is too depressing. But I’m hooked.
Superb text!
https://substack.com/@sashalatypova/note/c-43553078?r=1u575z
Back to the bucket:
I believe that scientists drawn to working in animal-based experimentation are psychopaths. The scientists mentioned here and, of course, our good Dr Fauci (sticking puppies heads into a closed cage filled with mosquitos to see how long it would take for the puppies to die) are but a few examples. Moreover, animal research extrapolated to the application of the intervention on human beings (ostensibly the sole purpose of animal research) is unrealistic, as various drug scandals have revealed. Recall: the “safe & effective” C-shots; the thalidomide fiasco of the 1950 and /60s; the Vioxx drug that caused heart attacks and stroke and was removed from the market in 2004. What have these and other drugs and toxic vaccines have in common? They were tested on animals before being marketed, and declared safe for humans. In addition to this, “few new potential drugs tested in animals are ever successfully approved for… Read more »
My thoughts exactly. Any person who can stand by and watch an animal (even the much despised and irrationally feared) rat for 15 minutes let alone 60 hours, is in my opinion, a psychopath. The lack of empathy and cold heartedness required to perform these types (and worse) of ‘experiments’ would make that individual capable of displaying the same cruelty towards humans. As is oft repeated by many commenters on OffG, we’re all just animals, ain’t we?
They are systematic, psychopathic, trained gvt predatory animals.
And they like and insist on it.
I suspect that these men and women drawn to animal experimentation have themselves been abused, not necessarily sexually, as children.
However, that’s no excuse, since when we grow up we have a choice as to which path to walk: same as our parents or another path entirely.
when you eat factory farmed animals you take on all that misery fear and bad vibrations no wonder most of this planet/zone whatever, are zombie war mongers. stop treating animals like shit seems like a very good idea to me
The obsolete medicines you mention were along the same lines as the covid jabs: sadistic manipulation and experimentation that promoted death and injury through increasingly useless or harmful potions, until poor sales or damages paid out made them unviable.
Covid injections are obsolete? – Hooray!
Fully agree. The treatments we give animals are a mirror of ourselves.
But forgive us for gassing rats, cockroaches and mosquitos, because they are carriers of deceases and toxic bacteria.
Animals live on instinct, alone.
Humans have intellect and many, intuition, which blesses them with the capacities of memory, observation and thought.
The intuitive would not enter a bucket without a ladder in the first place, and, for good measure, tell the mountebank who asked them to get f.cked.
The intellectual would learn from the first swim and not do it again, but thank the scientist for including them in his experiment above all those not chosen.
Those humans left would line up for boosters.
Nietzsche was right about how the slave classes love their servitude.
That’s why they have no idea what to demand. It’s like they can’t see the obvious solution, so they believe the bullshit solution sold to them.
Humans too live on instincts, screwed up instincts,
repressed instincts…And their intellects are in the
service of their instincts…repressive intellects…
Intelligence in a species, any species, solely serves
the function of an organism’s self-preservation…
Instinctual Intelligence…
Humans preen…
“screwed out of shape
by society’s pliers…….”
(1960s folksinger)
Humans are the only species that have individual souls. That higher intuition comes only to full power when ego is self abolished, so quite rarely. That soul re-incarnates, but can only remember fragments of past lives if that last ego was flipped, so again occurs seldom.
Only we Homo sapiens can change, neither animals or Gods can. We potentially can ‘rebirth’ from ego to soul and change our view and thus our Nature. Avoiding “survival of the fittest” sounds good but is a bit hard: letting go of all our loud desires, ideologies, opinions to hear that soft soul feeling and get its instant re-arrangement of external circumstances. Beats the Internet by many miles.
Yes but it is localized, where as the internet is ubiquitous.
Internet connects only between human brains and IoT devices on Earth, not with the rest of the Universe in and outside.
yea, who says animals have no soul ?? What an arrogance to believe that kind of c**p !!
Agreed. This was a universal belief until quite recently, and yes, alas, many people still believe this. It’s called an “excuse”…a “rationalization”…for cruelty for convenience.
Most of us are guilty of something like this for various reasons…I still eat cows and chickens (among other sentient beings) and “get over it” because of what is called “carnism.” For example, a person can eat a cheeseburger made of beef, but would, maybe, have a harder time eating one made of dog, even if it tasted better. They relate the dog to a pet, the cow is faceless…big topic.
So you keep using your official id? You keep registering things? You pay your taxes? You obey authority? If so you are not as clever as you believe. We live in an illusion and because you figure out 1 thing doesnt mean you have sussed it out.
The intellect and intuition of mankind did not save the majority of them, including all too many pregnant women, from accepting the toxic “Covid” injections….
The trouble is blind trust, obedience and religious belief in systems foisted upon us.
Also, you underestimate the innate intelligence of the other animals.
Ultimately, when you demoralise animals, including humans, enough, there’s only desperation and hope left. That’s how our controllers have been toying with us for millennia.
Annimals have a different perception than humans and act differently than humans. They are not less ” intelligent” , they only live under different conditions and have to behave differently. Observe the nature, you will be surprised.
The only difference between humans and animals is that animals are not malevolent.
“Animals live on instinct alone” ??? Do you believe that? Or are you commenting on how these experimenters view animals?
“Safe an Effective” morphs into “Safe and Secure.”
An inkling of what to expect in a Cashless Economy
Cash was king during Optus network outage:
https://cairnsnews.org/2023/11/10/cash-was-king-during-optus-outage-does-anyone-want-a-cashless-society-as-labor-liberal-greens
This has got me wondering if Gaza is a behaviourist’s laboratory and there’s lots scientists who have been keenly taking notes for the past seventy or so years.
Of course they have.
There’s no way it’s simply a weapons testing range.
Maybe it is…
The Palestine Laboratory
How Israel Exports the Technology of Occupation Around the World.
Antony Lowenstein
israel has already occupied many european governments through its own bi-nationals.
That is why european governments support the murderous ethnic cleansing going on in gaza.
Shame on us europeans
The “superpower” only tests armaments against puny enemies, using overwhelmong odds. But it forgot this in Ukraine. Anyway, no charge to the manufacturers for the free testing.
KA—Chinggggg!
It’s certainly a laboratory… Australian Police go
there to learn the latest crowd control, etc. techniques…
The Palestinians as lab rats has a ring to it…
Sydney today held a huge pro-Palestinian rally and
march, biggest rally/march held in Sydney
in decades…I didnt see any mass media teevee
people anywhere…
I wanted to join and googled. With no success as to information on whether the marches were to be held, location or otherwise.
Every Sunday arvio so far…Hyde Park, Sydnet…
Thanks.
And American police forces send their slightly higher-ups to Israel for ‘advanced training’ presumably in live situations, as opposed to theoretical Event 201-type rehearsals.
But what I was meaning specifically was ‘psychological warfare’ in addition to the ‘physical,’ as you have seen done to us in the last few years : nudge, nudge.
no msm at any of the huge anti-convid marches of which there could easily have a been a million at two i went on or any of the smaller ones of many thousands……surprise surprise, doesn’t fit their zombie slave agenda
Of course, if the rats and pigeons had been mosquitos, there would be no problem with ethics.
How strange are we.
A pigeon and a mosquito is not the same. Although Scientists and Animal Rigthers say rats and humans are just same shit, they are NOT the same. Just saying.
Animal rights advocates are not saying we are all the same.
They are saying that animals (not sure about mosquitos), at least mammals and birds, have the same complex nervous systems, capable of feeling emotions, such as fear, panic, love, hope, anger, etc., as humans do, and of course they feel pain just as acutely as humans do.
That’s what speaks against keeping them in horrendous conditions in meat, dairy and egg factory farms and it speaks against their torturous experiences in medical labs, in factory farms, in trucks and ships on their way to being killed, and it speaks against their slaughter on the killing floors of abattoirs.
Agree, but excuse me for having a bad impression about Animal Righters.
I have seen how they behave toward disabled and homeless people and their dogs or cats. The usual leftist ngo hypocrisy as useful idiots for capital and establishment.
If anyone is comparing rats and mosquitoes for ethical killing reasons based on certain criteria, then of course rats and mosquitoes are quite different…the criteria involves things like self awareness, sentience, CNS complexity, how they feel pain, etc. You could lump all mammals and birds in a class that would have similar systems. Fish, maybe, but most people evaluating in this way leave fish out.
Insects, arachnids, nematodes, etc. no, they don’t qualify. Neither do plants, of course.
Then you get into the “soul” issue…and if you are one that believes certain animals have souls, and certain ones do not (like mosquitoes) you are in for some difficult assessments.
There is nothing scientifically useful about Skinner’s or Richter’s results unless the objective is to define the limits of torture on creatures as a proxy for humans. These are experiments to see the limits of behavioral manipulation via violence/torture of authority over slave. All authoritarian arrangements are master – slave arrangements. In an egalitarian world where we jointly decide action, then do it together, experiments like Skinner’s and Richter’s would be seen as immoral, criminal behavior. These two monsters see themselves as masters over slave animals. This assumption allows them to justify any behavior or action to the “other”, the inferior. The “other”, the inferior, has no rights, thus susceptible to infinite levels of evil. Authoritarianism unleashes the potential to evil, even guarantees it. Just imagine being in the lab with one of these idiots, asking them why they are doing this experiment. The answer no matter what they say… Read more »
After World War 2, US even took in the people from Japan and Germany who had been experimenting on humans. The 2 experimenters mentioned here were following the orders of the people financing them. After this came MK-Ultra, the prisons outsourced to friendly dictators, the prisons run in war zones, etc. All the knowledge gained was serving a goal.
I would be curious to know more about what you say here. Is there a book you could recommend?
https://rtd.rt.com/films/japans-secret-unit-731-crimes/
https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-long-suppressed-korean-war-report-on-u-s-use-of-biological-weapons-released-at-last/5629882
There is a reason why psychology experiments are hardly replicated if at all. That’s because they are impossible to be replicated. And that’s because the first experiment outcome was either a tremendous coincidence or a sham.
Given that it’s a bit far sought that rats have the mental ability to hope, an ability that most people lack, as for hope you need to see some aspect of the future, while most people are too stupid to see anything more than the present (as covid taught us), I say: sham.
But then maybe rats are smarter than humans. That is as far a I know, rats were never tested on the Covid19 vaccine. They did not approve it. Humans on the other hand…
Yes, I agree with you, I think this experiment is a bit dubious…particularly the “hope” conclusion (I actually do not know if Richter officially stated “hope” as the reason the rats swam for 60 hours). And yes again, I would not be a bit surprised if this was a sham, or a tremendous coincidence as you say.
You have described the function of parliamentary democracy.
Israel’s response to being humiliated by Hamas – “How dare you !”
How they can be humiliated by Hamas when they created it as a political entity and now use it to control Gaza since they fixed it to be “elected” some years back? The whole idea Hamas is posing a real resistance to Israel is clown world crazy.
In a pantomime-dame way maybe.
(Preferably voiced by John Inman)
Many people confuse “hope” with “wishful thinking”.
While HOPE is based on REALITY, that is, on an objective consideration of the facts in order to clearly see the real alternative solutions, WISHFUL THINKING is based on DESIRES.
And, of course, TRUE HOPE is based on a TRUE FAITH IN GOD (whatever your creed is or the idea of Him you have), not on the “good faith” of large corporations and governments or on the “Humanity’s unstoppable march towards Progress” or whatever…
So this “method” described in the article is very effective when it is applied to people who are highly attached to “wishful thinking” and to their instinct impulses (unfortunately, the great majority), but it isn’t effective with critical thinkers or, at least, with people who are able to domain their desires to a certain level.
The modern problem I dub Snarkism. It derives from short attention spans and above all the lust for labeling – which is a generational twist, emanating from cultural programming… people will be immediately categorised and cancelled by marker words, speech patterns or accent, or references or taste in whatever. The replacement of music by industrial noise, categorised infinitely by genre, neurotically sub-labelled, was the keynote. Taste in music is, after all, how we are taught in these times to be tribal. When identity, musical or cultural, makes the inevitable leap to politics, you have a univeral tool of division. Older folk – my grandparents born around 1915 – had their characteristics, which you may fault, but one of them was personal judgement. People not only were unafraid of speaking of standards or “niet normaal,” they had an obligation to defend themselves and others, right or wrong: regardless of whether someone… Read more »
“The people will believe what the media tells them they believe“.
Lab animals aren’t human beings.
That argument worked for the tobacco industry for years. It probably sounds better spoken by a very expensive lawyer.
Amen.
Actually Todd National Socialist Germany was the first national to bring in animal protection laws, vivisection was abolished, wildlife was protected by a hunting ban. And also ritual slaughter was banned, so no the”Nazis” would not have wanted to kill rats in buckets.
He suggested they would have been happy to let him carry out his experiment on humans, not rats.
Well…the Nazis were well known for human endurance experimentation. How freezing temperatures affect humans, how long can they endure high altitudes, etc. These are well documented experiments that the Nazi doctors and scientists conducted on human subjects, primarily prisoners and Jews.
Of course I am sure some people out there will claim no such thing happened. Considering how atrocious humans can be, I have no problem believing it.
what corporate entity/government is innocent of torture of people? whether it be physical or mental
They just performed all of it on Jews. Please, show a link confirming the above policies.
Communists, JW’s and Coloured people were in the same group and exposed to the same as Jews.
Are we not in a new experiment now ?
War is always awful and there are always atrocities, every day, somewhere in the world.
We choose not to look.
Is the current middle-East crisis any different to any other conflict?
Or is it the sales job that marks it out ?
I have to admit I’m actually at a loss to explain the behaviour of the politicians.
The ones who I would have expected to call for a ceasefire are calling for more killing and vice versa.
MSM are saying black is white and white is black- or maybe it’s not.
Palestinians are the victims, Jews are the victims, wait….. Palestinians are the aggressors, no, Israel is the aggressor.
One thing is certain – confusion reigns.
An increasingly common state of affairs over the last few years.
Ordo ab chao.
Now it makes sense.
Do you mean “any different FROM any other conflict”? Or aren’t you speaking English?
As a North-American English speaker who often listens to British English speakers, I note that they say “different to” when we would, speaking “properly,” say “different from.” This extends to regional differences – some Brits saying “were sat” when we would say “were sitting.”
Our language, our rules .
Enjoy your chitlings.
‘Two great nations divided by a common language.’
Oscar Wilde
The Engrish are so stupid, they think that they are born speaking this language that is accidentally named after some people who lived on the same island as they do once upon a time long ago. Because they think they were born knowing this language, that it is in their genes, and thus transmitted inter utero, they think they don’t have to learn how to speak it properly. And that is why they speak and write it so badly, as anyone would who does not actively and assiduously make efforts to learn it.
Sentence 1 is a mix of a lie and an error.
The lie, leaving aside the asinine generalisation “the English are so stupid” is that the word English is not linked to the name Anguli (Angles), the Roman name for the people who lived in modern Schleswig-Holstein between Flensburg Fjord and the Schlei estuary, the area forming an angle.
The error is the insinuation, a really quite multiculti Woke one, that the current English ie presumably ethnic English AKA whites, have no link to their own ancestors, “some people who lived on the same island they did….a long time ago.”
So if all the human geneticists researching and debating the change and continuity of UK genotypes as evidenced by ancient DNA sequencing had only talked to Joe Smith in advance, just think how much time and effort they could have saved.
There are so many solecisms of grammar, syntax, and punctuation in your comment that I have no option but to conclude that you are probably an Engrishman. Not to mention that, in typical Engrish fashion, you missed the point.
Well, they’re wrong.
Eggs, grandmother, suck.
From where I come from we say properly “I was satting” with a difference to what you has been doing.
Surely you meant to say “Did you mean” Old bean
I can speak English very well. I learned it from a book.
(Moose falls on head)
And my contentious grammar is the biggest problem with my otherwise brilliant post ?
Learned English reading and watching/listening to old movies, specially old British ones of the 40s and 50s (specially comedies). Never went to school or anything for that. Don’t know how am I doing…. But, don’t tell me just yet. 🤔 “The sleeping bag, a poem. On the outside grows the furside; on the inside grows the skinside. So the furside is the outside, and the skinside is the inside. One side likes the skinside inside, and the furside on the outside. Others like the skinside outside, and the furside on the inside. If you turn the skinside outside, thinking you will side with that side, then the soft side, furside’s inside, which, some argue, is the wrong side. If you turn the furside outside, as, you say, it grows on that side, then your outside’s next the skinside, which for comfort’s not the right side. For the skinside is the… Read more »
Wow, you’re doing great.
(Use “especially” not specially.)
What is your mother tongue?
Thanks 💪.
It’s Berber.
Hmm. It appears that in the USA between 20 and 30 percent of the citizen rats refused to take any of the clotshots despite the most forceful psychological, social, and economic coercion by the Parasite Class and their minions. It would appear that a substantial minority of humans have greater analytical abilities than a rat or a pigeon, though the majority do not. However, the Parasite Class has only begun their torture of the global population and the four horsemen still lie in our future.
The four horsemen have been riding for a long time now.
We ain’t seen nothing yet.
BBBBBaby.
Bachman-Turner Overdrive. I shall now go and listen to it again, thanks.
We are all doomed. Even the unvaccinated are swimming around in a bucket of water hoping. They hoped.
But they forgot the vaccinated were jumping and shedding all the lucifer nano bots directly into their brain barrier. It was all in vain.
It was all just a fantasy, the wall was too high, they could not break free. 🤖
If one assumes that one’s consciousness’ sole existence derives exclusively from a functioning physical body, then we are all doomed from the moment we are born.
Hmmmm.
Yeah, Ok, but the “elite” with their saline jabs would have to avoid all hoi polloi just in case?
Nah.
shedding like germ theory sounds like a load of old bollocks to me
Brazil now making clot shots mandatory for babies:
https://yvymaraey.blogspot.com/2023/11/brazil-mandates-covid-19-vaccine-for.html
A socialist President. Lula was the right man in his first 8 year period, but today a wrong person in a wrong time.
“Parents of unvaccinated children will be denied welfare and may be subject to fines, reports Revista Oeste.
Unvaccinated children will be denied entry to schools.
Brazil President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva has been openly totalitarian on vaccines, which he called “a guarantee of life” and accused parents who do not vaccinate their children as having no love for them.
(The usury Bankers are using the vaxx as a bargaining chip for obtaining International IBRD/IMF/ECB loans) and socialists are jumping.
Dr. Richter was a hero in the science world, of course. And that is because that “science world” fully qualifies as sub-human. Funny how the hyper-sensitive woke crowd has yet to utter a peep about this “science”. Animal experiments are a thinly veiled exercise in sadism with no rational or ethical or scientific backing whatsoever. The “scientists” who make a career out of torturing animals are truly depraved beings with no doubt a hell of a personal life and inner world- literally … There is not even the excuse of benefiting humanity by sacrificing a few disposable animals. If a synthetic drug is likely to be really OK for humans (unlikely), there is no end of human subjects willing to have it tested it on themselves for a fee, and with much more meaningful results. And pharma can fucking afford it. But really, the entire practice of animal testing is… Read more »
Must a been done by the doctor who wont take his own medicine.
Tedros of World Health Organization Admits He’s Unvaccinated
https://www.bitchute.com/video/B0NN9YvNIrcQ/
If most of the animals tested die, just end the tests, raise the urgency (“a pandemic”) and proceed to tests on humans – with no independent supervision.
The only rats we have around here are neighbors, private side of the gvt types who lives are rooted, tooted and suited to target their fellow citizens in the name of Jesus, who already died for their sins.
You can’t make this stuff up.
Just a thought, Todd.
Is the use of these experiments as examples proof of their scientific validity ?
Or is that a slope too slippery to contemplate ?
He who grows up high in the clouds,
gets a nose bleed as they return to retire on Earth.
Only if there is an “r” in the month.
Shit, it’s November !!!!!
The comparison with lab rats or pigeons only goes so far. It could even be turned around. The fact that hope allows you to tap into unsuspected reserves means that you are stronger than you think, and have longer than you think.
Because unlike lab rats and pigeons, human subjects are not entirely passive and at the mercy of their manipulators.
Its been found to be a well hidden fact,
that hope always ends in failure.
And just giving up is such a wonderfull solution ? Then why don’t you just put a bullet through your head ?
B/c you are the one giving up, so you deserve the bullet more than me?
‘Hope and Change’
Barack Obummer (or one of his speechwriters)
Humans have created their owned version of the “Great Psychiatric Hope Experiment”. It is called the neoliberal market-economy as a “one world economic” or “one world neoliberalism” as a single market-enterprise involving everybody [OWE, OWN, ME.] Where the totalised quantity of money equals totalised quality of ‘good’ life-affirmation (eudaemonetarism as ethical ‘happiness’); supply equals demand and production equals consumption in a self-balancing economy (guided by the ‘invisible hand’ of self-interest maximising ‘freedom and liberty’.) Therefore: the permanent quantitative growth of the virtual money-form (symbolic of demand) is met by the permanent quantitative growth of material supply (consumerism equals commodification) in the ‘productive economy’; whichever produces qualitative ‘happiness’ and ‘hope’ of progressively increasing future ethical-volitional ‘happiness’? The neoliberal experience – as economic experimentum crucis – is, and always has been, and epic failure much more akin to a “drowning rat psychology” designed to uncover the effects of the massification of despair… Read more »
With a tangible economy ordinary Folks at least have a chance of rescuing themselves.
A digital economy is just another nail in the coffin of freedom.
Complete rescue can only be achieved by spiritual growth (whatever that means).
Love is the centrepiece of spiritual growth.
The ecology (Mother Earth) is self sustaining, no matter what devastation we wreak.
Digital is a form of freedom, its a distance time saver, an efficiency mechanism of payment, can perform along side coin currency.
I’m not seeing the problem from technology stand point, from a management perspective, it does enable the 1% to more efficiently control the 90% and thus boost their egos as abilities.
I think it evens out in the end.
I don’t think anyone has a problem with digital currency.
PROGRAMMABLE digital currency is a very different thing.
And I don’t see a way of having one without the other.
Isn’t our currency mostly digital (computer records with banks) already?
You are correct but we still have physical tokens with numbers on them giving the illusion of value.
In reality that “value” can be adjusted by using inflationary/deflationary tools, QE or QT
But that affects the currency as a whole.
Programmable CBDC allows the controlling bank to target an individual and adjust the value/ availablilty /spending choices of their “money”
Actually I have a problem with all this digital crap, it just makes you dependent on some device that can be conrolled, the o-so precious $hitcoin/whatever digital bullcrap currency may be “free” but they still can control you through the device you need.
Digital currency per se is just another derivative, taking it’s value from perceived worth.
Fine if you are into risk taking and OK maybe as part of a portfolio but you wouldn’t want all of your income to be paid in, for example, futures or options.
If you buy derivatives you choose the sector and the risk/reward ratio.
With Programmable CBDC, you take what you’re given.
This afternoon, I talked with a guy I know who still thinks the shots were a great idea and survived all of the boosters (so far). He loves the Google wallet and never uses cash. He doesn’t see any problem at all with an all digital system. I thought, but didn’t say to him: What if they don’t let your fat self buy another pizza or more beer? He thinks all of that CBDC stuff is way far in the future, after he’ll be gone. If he keeps up the way he’s going, that might be true.
We may have to face it: Some people wants and like to be lead by the nose. They even declare themselves coming from the apes. They too are a kind of animals. So they maybe right. It must be true.
Who are we to judge who they are.
Everyone thinks it’s “in the future”
It’s already here.
They just haven’t told you.
US passed pathway to CBDC last week.
BRICS Are “proud” to have made first multi million cyber deal for oil last week.
We may have been distracted by other “news”
Next time the cashier asks if you want your receipt (when did that start ???) Say yes.
What happens to digital currency if the data or software gets corrupted, the personal hardware or electricity supply fails, or a big solar flare hits the planet?
Please don’t give them any more ideas.
Easy. You loose your money and become indebted.
Why? Because you didnt updated your devices with the lastest booster and anti-virus software. Your fault.
These psychopaths who make these experiments are the same who believe we root from a chimpanzee who developed into the Cro-Magnon man and today the Computer man. All bending over, looking down, animals. Hereof behavioural experiments with rats, pigeons and swine. Humans are just the same. But what if he made these experiments with real humans? I know the Rockefeller Foundation today are advertising after Research on why some people didnt behave and still dont buy into the Jab and Booster scam. The Rockefeller Foundation cant figure out why some species deny and refuse bs. Faith! In the Sri Lanka civil war against the Tamil Tigers the military was torturing an amount of people. The result was that those with faith, Muslim faith, religious faith, in something higher spiritual, were extremely difficult to break down even under torture. Welfare fat people without much meaning in their lives were the easiest… Read more »
The spiritually bankrupt succumbed to the propoganda..
Very interesting article. O to be a rat or pigeon that owns its own home would be some solace at least.. peck peck peck.. tap tap tap… I’m drowning in bills. Sir Trilateral Kneeler will save us.
Do you mean Car Stealer? Or Steal Karmer? (karma)
I don’t get the parallel you’re trying to make between the heartless rat experiments and the covid virus. Are you not aware how many people died? Are you not aware that on this planet there are zoonotic viral infections every X times and there have been plenty enough in the past with GIGANTIC death rates to reassure us that we are just another victim of our mindless and deadly overlords? I think you’ve been ingesting too many psychedelics dude.
Yeahh those “zoonotic viruses” are bad news, it’s a wonder we made it through millenia without vaccines, dude!
We should be really wiping out all those dirty bats and other wild animals who are nothing but virus breeders – i say nuke them from orbit to be safe!
I was on the fence until now, but your expert use of an algebraic symbol and the caps lock key won me over.
“The Earth is a farm. We are someone else’s property.” ― Charles Fort
“The world is a vampire, set to drain.”
“…despite all my rage, I am still just a Rat In A Cage(!)”
The last resort will be Jihad against our demoniacal elites.
I am growing less cynical and blase as time wears on.
“Treat all you meet with kindness, because all are fighting a tough battle.”
Animal experiments are so last century.
did you no…?
during the world most deadliest plague _ covid 19 and its 1500 sub variants that terrorize the world during 2020 – 2023.
Humans where used as testing experimental rats.
These “humans” sold themselves off for a few bucks. 🤑
Quite so. To be fair they did use humans for over 100 years. It’s just that they took to testing animals first in the last century.
When they didn’t work on them they tried it on us to make sure of their findings. They are hoping that one day poisoning people for profit will work.
At least, that is what they tell us in so many words.
Even more peculiar then that Roosevelt and Churchill refused to send their airforces against the death camps. They knew of their existence and after the invasion of southern Italy they were within range of Allied bombers. However the only bombs to fall on Auschwitz in WW2 were by mistake.
They did however enjoy sharing KIpling’s poem ‘The Burden of Jerusalem’.
Allied reconnaissance planes flew over the””death camps” during the height of the so called extermination period and the photos studied after the war showed no evidence of malfeasance.
NB please consult John Ball~Air Photo Evidence.
Pre-Hannibal Directive …
Brilliant!
Further proof (as if we needed it) that some scientists have little respect or compassion for Life in their zealous quests for fame and financial security.
Here’s another ‘Richter’, showing respect: