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An Epistle to Robert F. Kennedy Jr

Edward Curtin

Dear Bobby,

As you know, I have supported your bid for the presidency even before you declared last spring.  I have admired and believed in you for years, and when you entered the race I felt hope for the first time in decades that your non-violent impulses, honed by your tragic family history and a deep revulsion for our country’s imperial wars and violent history, would triumph and usher in a new era of peace.

Despite the naysayers who dismissed you from the start, I said Yes, that you would shock those who ridiculed and maligned you and that you would be the man to carry out President Kennedy’s American University speech and fulfill his and your father’s legacy of “not merely peace for Americans but peace for all men and women” because “we all breathe the same air” and “we all cherish our children’s futures” and “we are all mortal.”

I suggested that you would heal the divide and not expand it.  Seeing you stumble on your way by throwing your full support to the Zionist leaders of Israel has been a body blow to me.  At first I thought it might be explained by your reaction to the false antisemitic accusations that were hurled your way once word emerged that you might enter the presidential race.  But as time went on it dawned on me that I was wrong and that you were in sync with the powerful Israel Lobby.

So now, I feel as if we are in the tenth round of fight for your soul’s compassion.  That you have not defended the children of Gaza and condemned their massacre by the thousands has shocked and sickened me.

As a scholar of religion and its intersection with politics, I have been meditating on current events.

Religion has for a very long time been used as a cover for slaughtering people and seizing their land. This is true for the United States and Israel. It is built into their theological underpinnings.  So it should not be at all surprising that the current Israeli massacre of Palestinians is fully supported by the U.S. government led by President Joseph Biden and by almost every presidential aspirant.

You, however, as a self-styled anti-war candidate are a great surprise to me, although I may be naïve and shouldn’t be since you gave your unequivocal support to the Israel government a month ago, following the October 7 Hamas-led incursion into Israel that killed innocent Israelis (many of whom were also probably killed by the IDF as Jonathan Cooke has reported). Despite that, I still expected your conscience would surely prompt you to condemn what can only be described as genocide, the slaughter of the innocents in Gaza that is ongoing.

You have undermined your claim to “end the forever wars” and to defend children.  Why you have done (or not done) this is a question that so many of your supporters and former supporters are asking.  Only you can say.  Perhaps we might only know if you unequivocally condemned Israel’s actions and faced whatever might come your way as a result.  This is unlikely, I now realize, but one can still hope. I think it would take a spiritual miracle of moral courage, because of your claim that your historical analysis that you say is sincere and true that Israel now and always has been the just and innocent party and the Palestinians the evil ones. I find your analysis unbelievable and your silence as innocents are being slaughtered indefensible, even as I applaud so many of your other positions, as you know.  Everyone knows that running for the U.S. presidency creates strange bedfellows, but your touting of the Israeli propaganda in which you conflate the Palestinian people with Hamas to justify massacring civilians is beyond strange – it is immoral.

I know how much you respect Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. and you no doubt have heard his words before.

“And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular – but one must take it simply because it is right.”
Martin Luther King Jr.

Conscience calls to you, Bobby.  Be true to that voice within.  Politic as it may be, there is a heavy burden of guilt for abandoning the Palestinians to slaughter by silence.  King learned this when he saw those photos of the napalmed and dead Vietnamese children and was conscience-stricken to come to Riverside Church in New York to give his speech “Beyond Vietnam: A Time to Break the Silence.”

You can do the same.  The pictures of dead Palestinian children, victims of U.S. support for Israeli bombs, are there to see.  Martin quoted your uncle, John, that “those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”  He said that we can no longer worship the God of hate and retribution.  He said, “Somehow this madness must cease. We must stop now. I speak as a child of God and brother to the suffering poor of Vietnam. I speak for those whose land is being laid waste, whose homes are being destroyed, whose culture is being subverted.”

You too, Bobby, can break your silence, step up high and let your conscience also leave you no other choice but to condemn the genocide in Gaza.  As Martin said, “A time comes when silence is betrayal.”

You say you are making “a moral case for Israel” as the justified party in its seventy-five year long war with the Palestinians.  In doing so you have reneged on your campaign promise to emulate President John Kennedy, who would be appalled by your silence. Your website, Kennedy 24, declares that “[you] Kennedy will revive a lost thread of American foreign policy thinking, the one championed by his uncle, John F. Kennedy who, over his 1000 days in office, had become a firm anti-imperialist.” 

In genuflecting to the Israel genocide while touting your connection to JFK and your father, Senator Robert Kennedy, you have in fact taken a position toward Israel diametrically opposed to theirs. One could sense this coming when under pressure this past summer, you withdrew your support for Roger Waters, a strong Palestinian supporter who was falsely accused of being anti-Jewish, and you then allowed your “friend” Rabbi Shmuley Boteach to say that Sirhan Sirhan, a Palestinian, killed your father in 1968 when you knew that was a lie and was part of a sophisticated intelligence conspiracy to blame the patsy who was said to hate Israel.

To allow Shmuley to audaciously and heartlessly repeat a CIA trope about your father’s assassination was a telltale sign of worse to come.

For both the U.S. and Israel, the Bible has been used to cover up the crimes of their foundings.  They have analogous histories rooted in religious myths.  In both cases, the indigenous peoples were considered less than human – savages, infidels – or in the description of Palestinians by the current Israeli Defense Minister, Yoav Gallant, “human animals.”  Such racist, dehumanizing language has been repeated time and again throughout the American and Israeli narratives used to justify their crimes against those they killed and whose land they stole.

The gloss of civilized hypocrisy has been unmasked by such language, just as it was when Hitler repeatedly called Jews “vermin.”  Irony aside, the Nazi rhetoric of denigration and racial superiority to justify exterminating Jewish people has been repeatedly mirrored by American and Israeli leaders, whether it was against the Original Free Peoples of North America, Vietnamese, Koreans, Iraqis, etc. or the Palestinians.  It is the master/slave mentality deeply rooted in U.S. and Israel history.

Bobby, you have said that you hope to be the second independent candidate to become president, the first being George Washington.  Yet Washington was a racist and slave owner who supported the extermination of the Indian natives so the white settlers could take their land.  He himself did so, speculating in Native lands together with most of the other prominent politicians from the early days of the Republic, including Thomas Jefferson, John Marshall, Andrew Jackson, et al.  For the governors and legislators of the thirteen states it was also open sesame on the seizure of Indian land which required their slaughter in turn.

One can learn this in Peter P. d’Errico’s important recent book, Federal Anti-Indian Law: The Legal Entrapment of Indigenous Peoples, where he makes clear how U.S. law was used to codify such “legal” theft and killing.  Such federal law was, as d’Errico writes, a claim of unlimited U.S. power and not really law at all but the suspension of law as it granted the U.S. government complete authority over Native peoples, their lives, and their land.

Legal theft, in other words.  Like the English justification for their claim to their colonies – the “right of discovery” proclaimed in Henry VII’s commission to John Cabot: “to subdue and take possession of any lands unoccupied by any Christian Power” – a series of three Supreme Court rulings in the 1830s by Chief Justice John Marshall were based on the claim of “Christian discovery,” which in turn was based on a papal grant from Pope Alexander the Sixth in 1493 that gave to Christopher Columbus’s sponsors, Ferdinand and Isabella, ownership of any land Columbus might discover.

This divine right required the killing and subjugation of non-Christian infidels and heathens who were considered brute animals, just as the Palestinians are today.

Similar justifications have been used by Zionists for the killing of Palestinians and the seizure of their land in the name of the Biblical Jewish God and his instructions to them.  This myth claims that God gave them the ancestral Palestinians’ land, therefore, like native peoples of North America who, according to the non-law U.S. Indian law, only had the right of occupancy, the Palestinians could be killed and dispossessed by the God-given rightful owners, which they were in 1948.

Netanyahu has made such claims many times, as have his predecessors. He calls for a holy war of annihilation against the Palestinians, based on the Hebrew Bible.  This is widely known and has a long history in the Zionist propaganda narrative that has allowed for seventy-five years of killing and the systematic shrinking of Palestinian land to its pitiful size today.

It is interesting to note that the three primary countries that intersect in the use of religious justification for colonial and imperial policies are England, the U.S., and Israel – together with the Papacy and its May 4, 1493 bull Inter Caetera issued by Pope Alexander the Sixth to declare Christian discovery.

I mention this since I am an Irish-American Catholic, and it was the Irish uprising against the English colonial occupiers that has become a key inspiration for anti-colonial rebels throughout the twentieth century and beyond.  I have taken inspiration from my Irish ancestors.

This is your heritage also, Bobby, so it becomes even more surprising that you, even as you tout the American Revolutionary War rebel fighters against the English colonialists, would support the Israeli genocide against the Palestinians.  As a lawyer, you must be aware of Federal Indian Law and how it, like all law, is rooted in a metaphysics of being human; has presuppositions that are brought to the bar, and in the case of federal Indian law, a Christian nomos at odds with that of Native peoples’.

You surely know that the Israeli assault on Gaza is a massive war crime according to international law, and even within the moderate Catholic just war theory, is, by its distorted proportionality, evil and must be rejected as immoral and a terrible sin.  You claim to want to end all wars but support the ongoing slaughter of thousands upon thousands of innocent Palestinian civilians, including so many children and women.  Nor have you said a word against Biden’s saber rattling with aircraft carriers, U.S. drones, and assistance for Israel’s bloodthirsty assault that raises the threat of a much wider war that could turn nuclear.

Yes, the question is why such silence, which you can break now.  I beg you to speak out.  You are a man of conscience.  MLK, Jr. speaks to us all still.

And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular – but one must take it simply because it is right.

Pax tibi,

Ed

Edward Curtin is an independent writer whose work has appeared widely over many years. His website is edwardcurtin.com and his new book is Seeking Truth in a Country of Lies.

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Charles
Charles
Nov 30, 2023 9:45 AM

Israet won WWII. King David Hotel & USS Liberty

David loneragan
David loneragan
Nov 29, 2023 3:00 AM

But isn’t this very similar to the situation Jeremy Corbin found himself in? British Jews have so much power that any candidate for PM will be prevented from standing if he/she supports the Palestinian people, full stop, end of story. I prefer to think that RFK Jr is only saying this to avoid Corbin’s fate — he doesn’t actually believe it, and trusts us to see WHY he has to say what he said about Israel’s right to defend itself, etc.

Paul
Paul
Nov 20, 2023 7:33 AM

Let this be a lesson for you Mr Curtin. About having lots of knowledge and lacking wisdom.

Rodrigo
Rodrigo
Nov 17, 2023 10:14 PM

At this point of the End Game, how naive one has to be to give credibility to a politician?

Bluto
Bluto
Nov 17, 2023 9:15 PM

‘Epistle ‘ was appropriate as this was way over written. Make your point and move on.

Charles
Charles
Nov 30, 2023 9:40 AM
Reply to  Bluto

Indeed

MaryLS
MaryLS
Nov 16, 2023 12:51 AM

A bit one sided, no?

Penelope
Penelope
Nov 15, 2023 5:05 PM

RFK supports the Global Warming hoax. To defend us against mandatory vaccinations while proposing Global warming pretext for dictatorship shows a sad lack of scholarship re climate science.

Here is just one sound source for climate science; there are many.:
http://notrickszone.com/

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Nov 15, 2023 11:06 AM

It’s sickening how the man who created CHD (Children’s Health Defense) cares nothing for the slaughter of Palestinian children.

MaryLS
MaryLS
Nov 16, 2023 12:53 AM
Reply to  Straight Talk

I am sure he does care. Children are often victims of war. There are no easy solutions here.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Nov 18, 2023 12:40 AM
Reply to  MaryLS

A disgusting comment.

Fred West
Fred West
Nov 18, 2023 8:35 PM
Reply to  Straight Talk

Children’s Health Defence, what’s that then? Turning kids into cash cows for the medical industrial complex. Safe vaccines my arse. The man sucks Zionist you know what, what Dr Shiva says. And by all accounts he is the only 2024 candidate that doesn’t.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Nov 15, 2023 10:46 AM
Nicholas
Nicholas
Nov 15, 2023 2:33 AM

Yes, it’s interesting that he has taken this stance but I wonder if the fact that 6 Jewish corporations owning 96% of the media is influencing his choices ….. 🧐

Hele
Hele
Nov 15, 2023 5:25 AM
Reply to  Nicholas

Can you let us in on these corporations.thanks

John Manning
John Manning
Nov 14, 2023 7:45 PM

So Kennedy will not criticize Israel. Why is this surprise. The USA is Israel’s bitch.
Every prospective US President must make a pilgrimage to Tel Aviv to kow tow before its leaders. Kennedy will not get to do that if he criticizes Israel slaughtering Palestine’s terrorist children.

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Nov 15, 2023 12:17 AM
Reply to  John Manning

You believe in 10/7 ?

joeblow
joeblow
Nov 14, 2023 5:14 PM

“Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change.” — Robert F. Kennedy 1966 Speech, US Democratic Politician

blow joe
blow joe
Nov 14, 2023 5:12 PM

“Few men are willing to brave the disapproval of their fellows, the censure of their colleagues, the wrath of their society. Moral courage is a rarer commodity than bravery in battle or great intelligence. Yet it is the one essential, vital quality for those who seek to change a world which yields most painfully to change.” — Robert F. Kennedy 1966 Speech, US Democratic Politician

Sarah
Sarah
Nov 14, 2023 4:50 PM

Like the article’s writer, I too had great hopes in Kennedy (long followed Chikdrens Health Defense) and was sickened by his sudden war rhetoric in favour of Israel as opposed to what he said about Ukraine calling for peace there. Of course every congressman/woman in the US has to swear allegiance to Israel, but rather he said nothing at all about the current situation.
It just shows one shouldn’t waste time voting for any politician. They’re all puppets of powerful agendas and their personal climb up the sticky ladder.

Thom Crewz
Thom Crewz
Nov 15, 2023 1:27 AM
Reply to  Sarah

Sound exactly like a comment someone wrote about Obama in 2012. A few words of hope from a politician quickly turns into words of carpet bombing once elected. People will never learn.

Wil
Wil
Nov 14, 2023 3:54 PM

Oh, EDWARD…… NICE PIVOT !!!!!! In the World of the wealthy Pundit / Author / Online Columnist, you have now entered into the Official “Brand Protection” Pundit….
Just as Ana Kasparian and Krystal Ball try to hedge-their-bets to “Save-their-Brands”, just as Dave Rubin and Edward Murray may have to “Hedge” as the Zionists continue to slaughter Palestinians, you are now trying to distance your “Brand” from JFK Jr., your political Hero…. It may work….
The Western World Sheeple have the 21st century DUMBED-DOWN News attention span of the average 11-year-old…. If you keep at this “well-written” Bullsh*t long enough, you might just come out on BOTH sides of this Apartheid….
Anyway, next month it’s on to the “next” Psy-OP….. “Natural Disaster ANYONE ????

Pilgrim Shadow
Pilgrim Shadow
Nov 14, 2023 3:41 PM

He should have stayed off the plane.

Geo Martin
Geo Martin
Nov 14, 2023 1:05 PM

For the ones who control the money supply whoever is in government is window dressing, a decoy of sorts. Their systems have shown time and time again that the electoral process can be and it is rigged and that democracy in practice is farcical; however we feel we need to pretend to believe in it.
The beauty of democracy is that whatever our govt we blame each other for our voting choices. It’s genius, at least monarchs had to take some responsibility and were at times dethroned, but who is responsible now? Is it the electorate for their voting choices? In fact it is the only system that almost guarantees the elites to remain at the top no matter what.

ThinkTwice
ThinkTwice
Nov 14, 2023 11:51 AM

“I Can No Longer Support RFK Jr’s Candidacy”
by “Jeremy R. Hammond”
https://worldviewmedia.activehosted.com/index.php?action=social&chash=b5a1fc2085986034e448d2ccc5bb9703.1623&nosocial=1

Double-Goyal-with-Cheese
Double-Goyal-with-Cheese
Nov 14, 2023 8:42 AM

Can we have candidates who have not been on a pedo’s plane?

Hannah
Hannah
Nov 14, 2023 5:36 AM

Dear Edward, I remain stunned that people with the erudition and intelligence you clearly display can continue to be in thrall to the idea we have free and fair elections here in the US. Why didn’t 2020 remove that idea from your mind forever? It certainly did for me. Do you no longer recall the blatant evidence for vote-rigging in the swing states and the absurdity of the final count that gave Biden – massively unpopular even in his own party – the presidency with a higher percentage of total votes than Obama in 2008? Surely that laid bare the fact our democracy is a sham and likely has been for some time. They fixed the count in Florida in 2000 to shoo Bush in. They fixed the count in the swing states in 2020 to squeeze Biden into office. I see no reason to assume these are isolated examples.… Read more »

susan mullen
susan mullen
Nov 14, 2023 4:18 AM

Why couldn’t RFK Jr. simply advocate neutrality? A truly anti-war candidate would win in a landslide in the US. As of now, US is a military dictatorship. In the 1930s Americans demanded Neutrality Acts because they knew US gov. was sneaking them into WWII, sending weapons to their UK monarchy pals, was as eager to get US into WWII as they were with WWI. FDR promised neutrality, went back on his promise, then died in office making his hand picked warmonger VP Truman the new president. Truman put in place the war machine to which US taxpayers remain enslaved today. There’s no parsing any US-supported war. It’s possible RFK Jr’s capitulation was to the weapons industry rather than Israel. The truth is Biden dislikes Israel, thus his constant requests to Bibi to ‘take a break.’ Obama despises Israel. Multiple reports said US neocons (Nuland et al) don’t like Bibi and… Read more »

matt carr
matt carr
Nov 14, 2023 3:47 AM

It really is a not a choice of who is the best but who is the least undesirable.

Charles
Charles
Nov 30, 2023 9:38 AM
Reply to  matt carr

Those are your standards

Tom
Tom
Nov 14, 2023 3:46 AM

Have you ever studied Islam, and the feelings the supposed “prophet” Muhammad had for the Jewish and Christian communities in where he was living?

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Nov 14, 2023 2:53 AM

RFK Jr.’s support for the Zionist genocide, and one might add against free speech as well as mandated by the first amendment, came as a disappointment though not as a shock for me. I had hopes for him, and reading his Real Dr. Fauci book, I knew just how able he was in the world of science. So when I noted that he had backed the carbon based global warming hoax of the Archons, I couldn’t write it off as sheer scientific stupidity. I knew then that something just didn’t smell right, and I always held some reservations regarding his best intentions. As to Mr. Curtin’s hopes that he might reverse himself, I am afraid that horse has left the barn for me.

Paul Scally
Paul Scally
Nov 13, 2023 9:52 PM

Well said Mr Curtain, I agree with everything you have written in this article, like you I had high hopes for Bobby Kennedy, but those hopes were dashed against the rocks over his support for the Israeli genocide of the palestinian people.

Guy St Hilaire
Guy St Hilaire
Nov 13, 2023 8:19 PM

My thoughts exactly .When I first hear that RFK jr was running ,although am not a US citizen,I was ecstatic .So disappointed on his stand regarding the Israeli massacre of Palestinians.At the very least ,he should be calling for a cease fire .

Luke
Luke
Nov 13, 2023 8:05 PM

People still trust this contropp virus pushing clown? 🤣🤣

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 13, 2023 7:48 PM

I have come to the conclusion that “Stay safe” is pure protection racket speak. The veiled meaning is, “If you want to stay safe then you’d better listen to us. (Otherwise we could make you very unsafe indeed!)”

Hugh O'Neill
Hugh O'Neill
Nov 13, 2023 7:22 PM

Like many here, I too share Ed’s disappointment. Assassination takes many forms, and as we approach the 60th Anniversary of JFK’s, we witness how well the operation can be run. I suspect that RFK Jr. is now finished and so the Establishment can breathe a sigh of relief. I am somehow reminded of the trite phrase in Sirhan’s book, “RFK must die”. I imagine somewhere in the depths of CIA there is a strategy entitled “RFK Jr. must die”.

judith
judith
Nov 14, 2023 12:06 PM
Reply to  Hugh O'Neill

My thoughts exactly. There are other ways to assassinate besides a bullett. When I look back on the sixties and those assassinations, starting with JFK, I feel we were getting sent a stark message in no uncertain terms. “We’re in control here.” They not only killed men, they killed hope. I get the same feeling now with Bobby Kennedy Jr. So many of us had hope. Not of his winning, necessarily, but for his message getting out there. His commitment to routing out the corruption, the censorship, the criminals who brought forth the nightmare of the past 3 plus years. I had listened to every single interview he’d given, on CHD and elsewhere, since April of 2020. He is a smart guy. He is committed. He is passionate about history, the US Constitution, and working class values in America. I never got the impression he was in this for himself,… Read more »

Geo Martin
Geo Martin
Nov 14, 2023 12:32 PM
Reply to  Hugh O'Neill

I’m not so sure the money masters of the world were quaking in their boots for Robbie Kennedy, or any other pre appointed candidate, which is the only type of cadidate there is by the way.

CaptainSpock
CaptainSpock
Nov 13, 2023 5:50 PM

A huge body blow for me also, given his stance on cv19 and other important matters.. But of course he knows what happened to his dad and his uncle and if he spoke out against the empire just now it would be a suicide statement..

One last remaining flimsy thread for me in relation to him on all this, is that he’s playing a massive poker bluff.. going along with the game and saying all the right things to satisfy the powers that be.. To keep open the possibility of becoming president, and from there he will have a larger platform to accomplish what he desires in his heart to honour his assassinated relatives.

.. Only time shall tell with that one.. I’m sure JFK played a similar game with the mafia dons running the game in america when he was in office.

Paul Cardin
Paul Cardin
Nov 13, 2023 10:10 PM
Reply to  CaptainSpock

RFK’s suicide is far, far more preferable to the slaughter of one lovely, innocent Palestinian child.

anonmoose
anonmoose
Nov 29, 2023 1:00 PM
Reply to  Paul Cardin

Is it also preferable to the terrorist slaughter of one lovely innocent Israeli baby ?

judith
judith
Nov 14, 2023 12:10 PM
Reply to  CaptainSpock

I thought that also, but that turned my stomach. Because, that’s politics as usual.

And what happens when you win the office? Do you then turn your back, AGAIN, on the people who funded your victory?

I think there were many of us who did not necessarily expect a victory, but were just so happy someone would address all the corruption, particularly over the past 3 years, and whos consequences have become so far greater than we would have thought.

I am not interested in the long game. I am interested in the truth.

CaptainSpock
CaptainSpock
Nov 14, 2023 11:03 PM
Reply to  judith

Like yourself i’m interested in Truth. I came to recognise a long time ago that absolutely not one ounce of my faith is to be projected onto any external authority figures and especially those within political institutions. It truly is the time to turn within, even as we engage fully with events on the world stage and the people who are suffering terribly. Turn within and discover the truth of who we really are beyond all that we’ve been led to believe through the conditioning of the dominator class and it’s story of separation from Source, through many many generations of ancestors trapped in the slavery game. That may well be the priceless gift within all of this as it’s so entirely corrupt and inverted now within the social game.. The only way out is in.. Draw back all of our projections and heal the distortions in our mind and… Read more »

Nick Baam
Nick Baam
Nov 13, 2023 4:15 PM

Wasting your time.

thejackalsmark
thejackalsmark
Nov 13, 2023 4:13 PM

I just wanted to say ONE more thing about ALL of these CONTROLLED Opposition SELLOUTS.

Whether it’s RFK Jr. or Trump, Musk, Biden, Shwab, Soros, etc. BASICALLY the vast MAJORITY of Washington DC at LARGE;
(AND the Business world, Entertainment, Medicine and Pharmaceutical industries, too, just to name a few.)

If you WANT to KNOW WHO is DIRTY and WHO is NOT, who actually IS in YOUR corner and who OBVIOUSLY is not, who gives a damn ABOUT OTHERS, and who ONLY CARES about THEMSELVES, you need ONLY follow ONE simple tenet…

“Follow The Money”.

~The Jackal’s “MARK”

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 13, 2023 4:08 PM

RFK Jr as a Spoiler Candidate Against Trump 2024

There’s been several people making this observation – Charlie Kirk, for instance.

How RFK Will Help Biden Win 2024
Charlie Kirk
Oct 26, 2023

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 13, 2023 6:32 PM

Current standing: RFK takes more support from Trump than from Biden – leading to a Biden victory.

Also, the “alt-msm” (Rogan, Tucker, etc) and the polling companies are going to hype up RFK’s popularity.

How RFK Jr.’s SHOCKING High Poll Numbers Could Rattle 2024
The Young Turks
Nov 5, 2023

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Nov 13, 2023 9:45 PM

Does any of this make any difference ?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 14, 2023 7:26 AM

Yes; and if not, why are they trying so hard to stop Trump? Here’s a clue: https://archive.fo/0o3iI https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/the-great-strategist-henry-kissinger-turns-100-china-ukraine-realpolitik-81b6f3bb May 26, 2023 Henry Kissinger Surveys the World as He Turns 100 He now believes that Ukraine—“now the best-armed country in Europe”— belongs in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. “I’m in the ironical position that I was alone when I opposed membership, and I’m nearly alone when I advocate NATO membership.” He would like the terms of the war’s end to include the return to Ukraine of all territory with the controversial exception of Crimea. “For Russia, the loss of Sevastopol, which was always not Ukrainian in history, would be such a comedown that the cohesion of the state would be in danger. And I think that’s not desirable for the world after Ukraine.” Mr. Kissinger leaves no doubt that he believes in a Pax Americana and in the need “to defend… Read more »

Andy Ellis
Andy Ellis
Nov 13, 2023 3:31 PM

Why the surprise ? Kennedy is a politician. I he wants to put his nose in the trough, he has to swear allegiance to his masters. He knows who to bow down to. Palestinians being g slaughtered is not his concern

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 13, 2023 3:03 PM

https://babylonbee.com/news/80-years-after-hitler-failed-nazis-finally-seize-london

It’s always instructive when a supposedly satirical site starts to get serious. So this is where Babylon Bee really stands!

And note the link to Douglas Murray below. When the “real issue” rises, i.e. Israel, the ranks close.

Manfred Meyer
Manfred Meyer
Nov 14, 2023 1:33 AM
Reply to  George Mc

‘ When the “real issue” rises, i.e. Israel, the ranks close.’
— Correct. This is the real issue. And the ranks close.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 13, 2023 2:42 PM

Video on a report of Oct 7: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aug1bHz_9sY What is clear is the obvious propaganda aspect of it with the little “preview” with the father doing a musical turn and the grandad later on coming up with a frankly highly suspicious comparison with – of course! – the Holocaust. “This is a story that comes from the Holocaust”. That is a remark that doesn’t seem to me to be natural at all. It sounds totally scripted. And then the reporter: “Despite the unspeakable depravity”. It’s incredibly creaky stuff. And then back to the studio and “It’s just so hard to find the words” etc, with appropriate head shaking. And back to the on-the-scene guy with, “This is similar to what happened before ….. and yet different because we have whole layers of tragedy” (????!!!!!!) “and we are just beginning to see…….” etc, And back to the studio: “Layers of tragedy.… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 13, 2023 2:46 PM
Reply to  George Mc

“Stay safe”! It’s one big con! One big programme!

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 13, 2023 3:20 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The report is from Good Morning America, which is broadcast on the American Broadcasting Company (ABC) which is “the flagship property of the Disney Entertainment division of The Walt Disney Company”. (Wiki) Thus one of the main heads of the media hydra. Slavish adherence to Zionist propaganda always seems more extreme in America. But it is the “stay safe” part that is the real clue here. This unmistakeably indicates what is clearly an underlying world wide psyop that started in 2020. This also indicates that the Oct 7 development was an essential part of that psyop and plays a crucial role in its unfolding. The Disney connection seems particularly apt considering the infantile psychology relayed: the stark “moral clarity” vision of Good vs Evil, in which the sides are unambiguously drawn. And then there is the vomitable sanctimonious sentimentality ceaselessly grinding out with an underlying vibration that promises to tuck… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 13, 2023 4:19 PM
Reply to  George Mc

The last thing my dad said is he lost his arm.

To which the young woman (“older sister”) sitting behind on the bed attempts to suppress a smirk!

rickypop
rickypop
Nov 13, 2023 2:19 PM

If you want to become a major player in any field you first need to sell your soul to Zionism. If that means cheering as babies are massacred, that’s what it means. Pretty obvious really.

thejackalsmark
thejackalsmark
Nov 13, 2023 4:37 PM
Reply to  rickypop

Obvious to us.

But NOT to the majority of those brainwashed Fox and CNN addicts. They are so THOROUGHLY indoctrinated into it ALL that there is likely, NO getting through to them.

I’ve TRIED to for the last 30 plus YEARS and counting. The buying and selling OF those souls, is OBVIOUSLY more interesting and appealing THAN the sharing of TRUTH and KNOWLEDGE amongst one another and IMPROVING our situations in this world, rather than SEALING our own FATES.

Kevin Craig
Kevin Craig
Nov 13, 2023 5:43 PM
Reply to  rickypop

Terrifyingly obvious, after all the actors doing “bodily autonomy” for three years, suddenly they’re now (almost entirely) active Shabbos goys- and in the majority of cases far more vitriolic, poisonous and hate-filled than they ever were over those forcing medical tyranny upon ‘us’. Can’t quite grasp myself how one of those views supports the other, unless sackfuls of shekels are exchanging hands.

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Nov 14, 2023 1:40 AM
Reply to  Kevin Craig

They didn’t achieve all that much. I was clot shot twice against my will as were hundreds of millions of others. The pushback against convid and the clot shots was quite weak. RFK jr went after Fauci, an obnoxious public servant rather than the banksters he eventually sold his soul to.

Kevin Craig
Kevin Craig
Nov 14, 2023 6:15 PM

They certainly helped kettle a large swathe of non-compliers down the wrong (or right?) paths….all the podcasts or marches in the world didn’t help me in my arguments against forced masking or entry to venues- i had to win those, on my own.

Spot on, re RFKJs target. Fauci’s a clown. Anyone he’s ever killed, has voluntarily taken his recommended potion.

The banksters? Once you’re gone, you stayed gone. He’s not stupid, Bobby boy.

tiggs
tiggs
Nov 13, 2023 2:04 PM

Judaism has no flag b/c it’s a practiced faith, not a nationalist ideology. Zionism has a flag, b/c “zionists don’t believe in God, but do believe he gave them Palestine.” – Jewish Scholar.
The Israel experiment is an empirical example of why religion & politics shouldn’t mix.
RFK. Jr IS establishment royalty & an ethno supremacist, not a man of The People. Its a big elitist club of inhumane ideologues & humanity ain’t invited.

gordan
gordan
Nov 13, 2023 1:21 PM

they killed his dad
read the book by michael collins piper
they have the tapes the video the audio jpeg and analogue print
maxwell epstein mossadick call it what you will
they got him they own him
mancurian candidate mk ultra tavistocked stockholme china syndrome

nothing worse than an actor with a poor speaking voice

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 13, 2023 1:17 PM

If there is one image that sums up the brutal incomprehension of Zionist supporters, it’s this one from twitter:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-wyJgcWEAAwito?format=jpg&name=large

The accompanying blurb:

“LIBERATION🏳️‍🌈THE FIRST EVER PRIDE FLAG RAISED IN GAZA!

Under Hamas, being gay means death. Israeli Yoav Atzmoni wanted to send a message of hope. See his story below.

To Gaza’s hidden LGBTQ+ community: STAY HOPEFUL of a future where you can live and love free of Hamas!”

Truly satire is now dead!

Placental Mammal
Placental Mammal
Nov 14, 2023 1:43 AM
Reply to  George Mc

Did they raise the flag at one of the bombed out hospitals or schools or churches ?

Sunface Jack
Sunface Jack
Nov 13, 2023 12:39 PM

There is large Jewish community in the US that has many Left wing liberal friends. They are funding politicians as is Michael Bloomberg who funds many democrats. Michael Bloomberg, the 20th richest man in the world.

Note in the media. Bloomberg, nearly 34000 donor contributing to the Magen David Adom (Israeli Red Cross) The man has massive power and influence in the Jewish community.

Is that possibly his reason why he is in sync with the powerful Israel Lobby.?

Victor G.
Victor G.
Nov 13, 2023 12:31 PM

I think RFK Jr’s principal character trait is cowardice, which distances him light years from his closest, defunct relatives. A minimum of compunction would have led him to cherish a modest existence as lawyer for causes few others were willing to champion. But no …
I have been wondering, from a psycho-somatic point of view, about his voice difficulties. It’s almost as if there’s something choking him preventing him from speaking his truth.

judith
judith
Nov 14, 2023 12:18 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

I disagree. He has spoken the truth for years.
Do you know his history with Children’s Health Defense and the parents of vaccine injured children?
And the fact that he has continued to be a voice, when his own is so troublesome, for so many years, says something.
He’s done hundreds of interviews over the past 3 years about Fauci, Pharma, et al.
I am disappointed beyond belief that he has deserted his message, and my belief is that he’s had to for some nefarious reasons, and I will not support his candidacy, but I am forever grateful to him and CHD for the education I have gotten about vaccines, Pharma, science and medicine since 2020.
Yes, he could have remained a modest lawyer, or just lived off his inheritance.
But he didn’t. He spoke out.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 13, 2023 11:54 AM

Bill Ackman – the money behind RFK Jr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ackman William Albert Ackman (born May 11, 1966) is an American billionaire hedge fund manager who is the founder and chief executive officer of Pershing Square Capital Management, a hedge fund management company. His investment approach has made him an activist investor. As of June 2023, Ackman’s net worth was estimated at $3.5 billion by Forbes. — Ackman made $2.6bn from covid – and he claims to have got his information off Twitter! https://streetfins.com/analyzing-bill-ackmans-2-6-billion-cds-trade Analyzing Bill Ackman’s $2.6 Billion CDS Trade April 1, 2020 Bill Ackman turned a $27 million investment in CDSs [Credit Default Swaps] into $2.7 billion in a matter of 30 days, leading some people to refer to it as the greatest trade ever. How . . . ? The answer is COVID and its effect on corporate debt. Ackman predicted that attempts by the US government to contain… Read more »

October
October
Nov 13, 2023 9:34 AM

RFK Jr said recently (before the goings-on in Gaza though) that Israel never attacks civilians.

That is so over the top, it’s like a hostage video.

SacredCowPies
SacredCowPies
Nov 13, 2023 11:14 AM
Reply to  October

You mean as in he’s the hostage suffering Stockholm syndrome? Actually that is my interpretation of his actions. Imho he’s obviously very very compromised at best and probably trauma trained at the extreme. His involvement with Epstein et.al. is much murkier and involved then most people want to admit.

October
October
Nov 13, 2023 1:17 PM
Reply to  SacredCowPies

You don’t have to suffer Stockholm syndrome. You just know that it is not the time or the place to shoot your mouth off  😀 

Crow Qu'appelle
Crow Qu'appelle
Nov 13, 2023 2:49 PM
Reply to  SacredCowPies

Accurate. The fact that is pals with Alan Dershowitz really makes you wonder, doesn’t it? More dirt on RFK: He flew on Epstein’s plane multiple times. This fact is buried is Whitney Webb’s masterpiece One Nation Under Blackmail, but has recently hit mainstream news as well. RFK Sr. had Marilyn Monroe murdered. Yep, you read that right. I know that people want to believe that JFK and RFK Sr. were heroes, and honestly, I think they were better than the brood of vipers ruling the roost now. But politics is a dirty business and you don’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs. Marilyn Monroe couldn’t be trusted to keep her mouth shut about certain things she was privy to, so RFK Sr. had her killed. Don’t take my word for it. Watch this interview: 3.RFK had his ex-wife’s body exhumed and reburied in an unmarked grave. According to NBC,The body… Read more »

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 13, 2023 9:31 AM

And as Gaza gets bombed flat the media continues with its Teletubbie level sensibility:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67378894

“Poland’s LGBT community hopeful era of hate speech is over”

The ecstatic news has reached Gaza too:

https://twitter.com/leekern13/status/1723807905835585996

“THE FIRST EVER PRIDE FLAG RAISED IN GAZA!”

Big hug!

Kevin Craig
Kevin Craig
Nov 13, 2023 10:11 AM
Reply to  George Mc

You ever read the 2016, mid-Brexit work of John King, called The Liberal Politics of Adolf Hitler?

It absolutely nails this sort of shite ^^^ to the wall. Doublethink brought into the 21st century. I reccomend the purschase.

rosy
rosy
Nov 13, 2023 2:19 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Actually though I feel I am seeing more and more coverage in the mainstream sympathetic to the awful plight of the people of Gaza, which is strange in itself

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 13, 2023 4:16 PM
Reply to  rosy

It’s the fuelling of both sides. And in an ABC news programme supposedly about the Oct 7 attacks, a newsreader used the revealing phrase, “Stay safe!” Which gives us an echo of covid. And makes you wonder what all this Middle Eastern stuff is really about.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 13, 2023 9:27 AM

For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy . . .

– JFK

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_President_and_the_Press
The President and the Press
Delivered in Waldorf-Astoria Hotel, New York City, April 27, 1961.

What part of that statement are people having difficulty with?

Edwige
Edwige
Nov 13, 2023 1:26 PM

The context.

Corbett analysed that speech and showed pretty conclusively that the “conspiracy” Kennedy meant was communism.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 13, 2023 2:03 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Corbett is controlled opposition – just like RFK Jr. He told you what to think and you went along with it!

Here’s the episode. I’ll let people watch it first before commenting.

https://www.corbettreport.com/qfc-jfksecret
https://odysee.com/@corbettreport:0/qfc-jfksecret:7
April 4, 2023
Paul writes in to ask if I have the full JFK “secret society” speech. Why, yes, I do! And guess what? The full speech shows that those highly-edited two-minute YouTube videos you saw back in the day were misleading at best and downright dishonest at worst. Wait until you hear what JFK was actually saying.
[the original contains italics for emphasis – full, actually]

gordan
gordan
Nov 13, 2023 5:48 PM
Reply to  Edwige

true enough
communism is zionism is satanism
moloch feeds well under these rotten shield banksta fronts

wall street and the rise of hitler
wall street and the bolshevik revolution
the contoversy of zion douglas reed

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 13, 2023 6:03 PM
Reply to  gordan

Bolshevism is one arm of a pincer – the other arm being Fascism which they also created.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Nov 14, 2023 8:49 AM

I, Yahweh, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me. — Symbolism will be their downfall. — The Umbrella Man, the Sins of the Father, and the Kennedy Curse Laurent Guyénot November 22, 2019 https://www.unz.com/article/the-umbrella-man-the-sins-of-the-father-and-the-kennedy-curse I first heard of the so-called “Umbrella Man” from a commenter to my unz.com article “Did Israel Kill the Kennedys?” (thanks again). It is one of the most puzzling pieces in the JFK assassination file. An intriguing introduction to it is this short interview of Josiah Thompson filmed by Errol Morris for the New York Times, on the 48th anniversary of his death (see below). This film is interesting because, besides presenting the facts accurately, it illustrates the kind of “cognitive dissonance” they can produce, leading reasonable people to believe an implausible but harmless and comforting explanation, rather than… Read more »

Placental_Mammal
Placental_Mammal
Nov 15, 2023 12:53 AM

I have commented on this before. Not only did they explain away the umbrella man’s actions, they simultaneously told you one of the reasons why JFK was killed.

thejackalsmark
thejackalsmark
Nov 13, 2023 8:25 AM

I should think that by now, it would be abundantly clear, why. Because he’s controlled opposition, of course. Virtually every US senator always has been, and always will be. They are bought off by the WEF, by George soros, Etc. And they are well versed in what they need to know and their role in helping to bring in their precious lil Reset. Doesn’t it make you wonder WHY he will say we need MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL and MORE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT on VACCINES and SAFER VACCINES when he KNOWS good and well EVERY single SHOT out there IS POISON. Always has been. Always will be. For him Children’s Health Defense is LITERALLY just a COVER story. NOT a LIMITED HANGOUT but a LONG-TERM one. One MIGHT EVEN SAY an UNLIMITED hangout, even… Like the MOB running a FRONT out of a RESTAURANT or video ARCADE. And for THESE losers, they… Read more »

mjh
mjh
Nov 14, 2023 6:48 PM
Reply to  thejackalsmark

Children’s Health Defense has done some very good work over the years and has helped many vaccine injured children. It has brought public attention to the dangers of vaccines. OK, attack RFK Jr on other issues, but with regards to CHD, don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater!

Joe Smith
Joe Smith
Nov 13, 2023 7:48 AM

He can’t do anything, even if he wanted to, because of blackmail. Look into his background.

SacredCowPies
SacredCowPies
Nov 13, 2023 11:37 AM
Reply to  Joe Smith

Continuing my theme, yes he is compromised but imho it was done in premeditated, methodical fashion. Epstein et. al. were all over this kid. They knew his political value and would exploit it to their advantage when the time came. Can you imagine them chuckling to themselves knowing the kick in the balls effect this would have on his and ancestors followers? Our controllers are more foresight than they are given credit for.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Nov 13, 2023 12:00 PM
Reply to  Joe Smith

Word.

MLS
MLS
Nov 13, 2023 7:38 AM

Well meant but a waste of time. RFKjr was played by his establishment friends into backing Israel knowing they were about to go full genocide on the people of Gaza, thus sinking his rep and any small chance of “being elected” what ever the hell that means post-2020.

George Mc
George Mc
Nov 13, 2023 9:18 AM
Reply to  MLS

Post 2020 is one vast gradually played out psyop of unprecedented ambition. I wonder what other goodies are waiting after this cunning gaslighting twist of the Israel card?

thejackalsmark
thejackalsmark
Nov 13, 2023 3:41 PM
Reply to  George Mc

Ya got money in the bank, right now, George? JuuuussstSAYIN ¯\_😏_/¯ Another “Winter Of Death” is UPON us. I know that WOULD be the OPTIMAL time to TAKE DOWN both INTERNET and or POWER grids around the WORLD to FULFILL at LEAST ONE of Klaus “Anal” Shwab’s most CHERISHED “predictions”, that he’s ENDLESSLY “Nostradamus’d” about, for just, the LAST SEVERAL years, ALONE. 😔 Be PREPARED for ANYTHING, and buckle UP, kids. Because we’ve STILL got a LOT of track LEFT on THIS ride, and it’s GONNA be BUMPY. Focus on being as SELF-RELIANT and INDEPENDENT of as many of their systems as you can get away with. ONE of their BIGGEST goals in this “reset”, is to GATHER unto THEMSELVES and OWN EVERY conceivable RESOURCE that YOU NEED to SURVIVE, and then RENT it to YOU. They CAN’T DO that and HAVE that kind of CONTROL OVER YOU, if you… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
Nov 13, 2023 12:04 PM
Reply to  MLS

Some say the RFJ Jr feint is to prepare for his son Conor’s 2028 Senate bid as a launching pad to becoming the youngest Kennedy ever elected president.
One thing we can say about Conor is that he has demonstrated his bona fides by going to fight in UkroNazia as a merc. . dontcha love it?