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Radical Dismissal

Todd Hayen

Here’s another weird thing I think is going on. Like most things I observe, you have probably observed this too, and probably way before I first thought about it.

This is kind of a no-brainer because in some ways it has been really obvious. But after a while, I started thinking it was weird because it applied to nearly everything, and certainly to almost all of the drastic issues out there.

Radical dismissal. This means that nearly everything, every issue, every theory, every thing that people consider a fact, is either yes or no, right or wrong, black or white.

There seems to be no room for “consideration”—meaning, “Well, I feel this way about this or that, but I would consider something different or contrary to what I believe if it was presented well, but maybe not right now, maybe when I learn more about it.” Not only is there no “consideration” but there is a radical dismissal of “opposing” ideas as if they do not even have a right to exist on the same planet.

To have this radical dismissal, the person that dismisses the idea or concept in question, also dismisses every person that is on the dismissed side of the issue. They are not only wrong but are complete idiots, assholes, morons, inhuman pieces of space junk. It makes no difference if they are decent people, smart, doctors, experts, or scientists specializing in the field where the topic of dismissal resides. They could have written articles, and dozens of books, spent 40 years of experience with the topic, spent years in school, have had positions at prestigious institutions, or whatever. If they say XYZ, while the person dismissing believes ABC, then the XYZ people are crap.

People can’t seem to hold differing views on much of anything these days. Viewpoints are so polarized it is ridiculous. Personally, I have never been like this, and I am sure most of you folks out there reading this are not like this as well. It is just a matter of being for me, I don’t even think about it. If someone says something I don’t initially agree with, I do not go bonkers trying to prove them wrong. Yes, I will admit, if I believe in something that will hurt them, and they don’t believe in that thing, and I care about them, I may get a bit animated in trying to get them to see it my way. But beyond that, I don’t really care if they come to my way of seeing things. If they want to debate, I will, and I have to say, I am often curious as to why they see things so differently, and I want to know if maybe I missed something and ask to hear more about their viewpoint.

Even if I still disagree after hearing more, I do not hold it against them for believing in something I do not believe in. Even if it is perfectly clear (objectively) what they believe is false, I still find it interesting they believe in a false thing and am still curious as to why. Unless they are complete asses about it (which these days they typically are) I don’t think much of it. If they are friends, they are usually still friends, if family members, I love them just as much as I did before. And am I still flexible? I like to think so, although if I am really sure I am on the right side of things, I may not spend as much time looking at the opposing viewpoint, but that really is just a matter of time and energy. Usually, there are details about any situation I remain flexible about.

Now, that’s me, and maybe that’s you. The other side? Forget it. Even when there is so much nuance and complexity to a situation, where there is a lot of room to say, “hmmm, well maybe you have a point about that detail” this “radical dismissal” will stay firm—no room for subtlety. “Nope, no way,” they will say, “you are a science denier, a fool, a conspiracy theorist, a tin foil hat-wearing moron.” They don’t even think it is funny you are so stupid and uninformed, they become vicious, angry, and hateful.

Why? I’ve got a few theories, as I am sure you do. But it is difficult to settle on any one of them. As with everything else going on, I do believe it is part of the agenda to polarize our thinking. Everything in our everyday life is being digitized—one or zero.

Not just the obvious things, but the not-so-obvious. Take for instance filling out an intake form at the doctor’s. There are fewer and fewer boxes where you can explain your situation, making the information more personalized and unique. And there are more and more “yes/no” type questions, or “pick from this list of four choices.” If your situation doesn’t fit in their pre-selected options, you are out of luck. “Is your toe one of these colours: 1. Blue, 2. Red, or 3. Black.” If your toe is “a sort of yellowy brown with red around the edges,” you are plumb out of luck.

These sorts of encounters with the “limited multiple choice world” train us to think in black and white, or at least train us to remove all nuance, uniqueness, and subtlety. And as a result, this destroys flexibility. Flexibility is one of the most important aspects of “getting along” with a diverse culture. You have to have tolerance, and flexibility, to navigate many different viewpoints and ideas. We are losing the ability to be flexible and tolerant to new or opposing ideas, pretty quickly.

And of course, once a certain percentage of the masses are hypnotized into this rigid black-and-white thinking, they have to be fed something to latch onto and believe in. So, the agenda then goes to work on that. Feeding the masses the lies, the deceits, the fake science, and fake news. The ones who have been mesmerized into this inflexible thinking then have something to be rigid about.

For all intents and purposes, it really doesn’t matter what they are fed, as long as it is the presumed authority that is feeding it. These masses could be just as convinced the vaccines are dangerous, or that Biden is a bad president, or that Covid is a hoax. It really doesn’t matter what they will believe, evidence or no evidence, they will believe what the “right people” tell them. And once they’ve told them, that’s it.

They will lock onto it like a snapping turtle will lock onto your big toe (the sort of yellowy brown one with red around the edges)—and not even lightning will cause them to let go.

Todd Hayen is a registered psychotherapist practicing in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. He holds a PhD in depth psychotherapy and an MA in Consciousness Studies. He specializes in Jungian, archetypal, psychology. Todd also writes for his own substack, which you can read here

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Kevin Craig
Kevin Craig
Jan 10, 2024 12:48 AM

Thank you, Todd. More questions than answers!

The BBC won the rights to the Two Minutes Hate, with Jimmy Savile and his fellow 1960s-onwards predators. There could never again be such a monster; hospital wards will be more secure; child guests on TV will be better chaperoned; but, wait- within single digit years, other TV darlings- Schofield, and Edwards, the news anchor who buried a Queen- thrown to the wolves. As is Betty’s third-favourite son, despite not a shred of proof of wrongdoing from any of the three. Are the public reassured? Of course they are. So,the real, active child-benders get to act out with impunity.

Suggest a public figure NOT on the news is up to no good, and the peon class are outraged- even, on a lesser scale this post-office fraud case still ongoing- the pitiful support those people received from their patrons was despicable, imo- but worse, is the fact that it’s only now IN PUBLIC DOMAIN and so the useful idiots only just aware of it will believe it’ll all be sorted and no-one meant any harm….the ‘system’ will work….until it comes for them.

Joe and Jenny Bloggs couldn’t give a fuck about anything, as long as one voice reassures- that’s all it takes. The masters of frequency can make sure that voice can belong to anyone they see fit.

peter mcloughlin
peter mcloughlin
Jan 8, 2024 1:42 PM

People think their ideas are correct: so the opposite is wrong. Ideas are what divide people – or so people think. But it is not ideas that divide (or unite) people: it is interests (ie power). Power is what drives nations to war. But power is an illusion. Power is about controlling reality, yet history shows that humans have only a limited control of reality. As a consequence, and it comes down to a simple syllogism: every empire eventually faces the war it is trying to avoid; everyone wants to avoid WW III; therefore that is the fate that awaits the human race. Unless our rulers and decision-makers grasp this plain logic nuclear Armageddon will not be averted. At least that is my view, which I explore in my free e-book (link below) if anyone is interested in reading it.
https://patternofhistory.wordpress.com/

Ron Marr
Ron Marr
Jan 7, 2024 11:25 PM

people crammed into their left brain through indoctrination, education, vaccination, and propaganda need certainty, that they protect with their lives. Their experience does not allow them to understand they are micro universes in matter, that the human race does not exist. The evil simulation of a fake reality can implement anything they put in our minds. Consciousness is our ONLY salvation. The evil creatures cannot survive without our participation. But, they cannot hear or listen.

David McBain
David McBain
Jan 7, 2024 9:11 PM

Apparently Stanley Milgram – https://www.simplypsychology.org/milgram.html – did many experiments. Not only the one that revealed 67% will follow orders regardless. He showed that if one person refused to obey, a much higher percentage would follow that example and refuse to follow blindly. It’s interesting. I like to think I’d be one with enough courage to put it to the test.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 10, 2024 6:14 AM
Reply to  David McBain

Thats why they always knock down on the first…..and only. Cornered!

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 7, 2024 6:15 PM

Seems like just coming up with a new name for describing how the the conspiracy theory label works.

The Coming Revolution
The Coming Revolution
Jan 8, 2024 10:11 AM
Reply to  Tom Larsen

Except that IMO Conspiracy theory (of society) is not always used as a (derogatory) label, and it is easy in my view to tell when it is used as such and when it is used in its literal sense, that is, a conspiratorial view of History according to which human misery has as an ultimate cause the same group of individuals – and their descendants after them – acting out of pure cruelty. (Or as defined by Karl Popper in The Open Society and Its Enemies)

In the first case, the expression is typically included within short statements, together with name calling and other “arguments” ad hominem as displayed for instance in the fifth paragraph of the present article. Needless to say, no genuine or relevant argument is used to refute what is being critiqued.

When, on the contrary, one takes the pains of trying to develop an argumentation to honestly, respectfully, if not vehemently, show what one believes are the shortcomings of the view held by the rival; when that development occupies almost the whole text; then the mention of that expression is very likely meant to just characterise the critique, not to dismiss either the rival view (because it is being addressed) or the person holding the same (by remaining respectful), the critique obviously trying to put the focus elsewhere, in the argument being developed rather than in the categorisation of the case. If this scenario is believed to be derogatory, then one can exercise one’s right to retort, and there should be plenty to retort about considering the arguments put forward.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Jan 8, 2024 3:16 PM

I am not talking about a “conspiracy theory of society.” I am talking about the weaponization of the term by the CIA since 1967. Lance DeHaven Smith in his book Conspiracy Theory in America addresses the problems with Popper as well as Richard Hofstadter. I highly recommend the book.

MadLady
MadLady
Jan 7, 2024 3:44 PM

I always feel saner after reading your articles!
Yes–what the heck is it with these poor fools?
I think Dr. Iain McGilchrist calls it in “The Master and His Emissary.” These are characteristics of Left Brain Hemisphere dominance–no nuance, no subtlety, no humor, just a rigid Puritan who can only see, as you say–0’s or 1’s.
And is willing to burn you at the stake as a heretic if you deviate from that.

Hornbach
Hornbach
Jan 7, 2024 12:40 PM

Thank you, Todd ! You seem to have nailed it. Waiting for the instructions of “how to deal with it” (not in us, in the others, who are not even reading your text).
I saw below in the comments that you got down thumbs, is that really possible ? Why ?

nylon
nylon
Jan 7, 2024 4:48 PM
Reply to  Hornbach

Come around here more often and you will not need to ask those questions.
It looks like It’s your first comment ever on this site,I’m sure the next one will have a bit more of nutritional value.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 7, 2024 5:35 PM
Reply to  nylon

Butthurt?

nylon
nylon
Jan 7, 2024 6:07 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

It’s possible. Do I come across as such?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 7, 2024 9:38 PM
Reply to  nylon

You mirror. Your comment is complete free from the nutritional value you claim another not to have.
Its one of the most ugly western way of communicating. Called “blame the victim”.

nylon
nylon
Jan 8, 2024 4:26 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Then, for me, it’s time to go.
Thank you for having me.
Good afternoon, good evening, and good night

Kevin Kervick
Kevin Kervick
Jan 7, 2024 11:47 AM

Hi Todd: One thought I have is the IQ in western states is declining so there are fewer people who can tolerate nuanced thinking.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 7, 2024 5:37 PM
Reply to  Kevin Kervick

Leftist pagan culture. Porn and related is a destabilisation tool of said society. = weak idiots.

Jimmie Joe
Jimmie Joe
Jan 7, 2024 9:08 AM

It is probably a truism that the brain is a “battlefield” on which all the world’s ideologies/religions have always run riot. A Pentagon advisor named James Giordano goes one step further and can be put in the same straitjacket as his kindred spirit Harari. He was also highly active as a vaccination campaigner during the so-called corona crisis.

But instead of placing homicidal psychopaths of this horrendous caliber for life in a high-security wing of a closed mental institution guarded around the clock, as befits an intact and healthy society, Giordano is not only allowed to “advise” the American military (see YouTube videos), but has also been a visiting professor at the University of Coburg for several years, where he has apparently even acquired a kind of fragmentary “German”.

The American, your friend and helper in need. Anyone who calls such creatures their “friends” definitely doesn’t need any more mortal enemies.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 7, 2024 5:51 PM
Reply to  Jimmie Joe

Thanks Jimmie. I would call them double perverts.
Not only do they research in pervert methods, they are only using them in non-enemy situations against mountain farmers and rice pickers who are against CIA’s poppy manufacturing and heroine distribution. It cant be a more pervert world than that.

Jimmie Joe
Jimmie Joe
Jan 8, 2024 1:09 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

You’re welcome, Erik. Yeah, these monsters in the guise of “humanoids” are undoubtedly vicious psychopaths. They seem straight out of a dystopian horror novel. However, they are not just literary figures, but real entities that cause millionfold damage and bring misfortune to mankind.

Mr. Burkhardt may well be regarded as the complete diametrical opposite of this incomprehensibly obnoxious Giordano freak. The conscientious professor (born January 6, 1944) passed away last June under somewhat mysterious circumstances (shortly after giving a speech to the EU “Parliament”): He is said to have saved his disabled son from drowning by jumping out of his boat (which he succeeded in doing) and drowned himself in the process.

At least this was sold to the public in all seriousness “to prevent any kind of conspiracy speculation.” The location of the tragic event (Lake Constance?) remains unknown. His many admirers (including myself after watching this video) interpreted him as having died as he had lived, as a selfless lifesaver regardless of his own risk. https://odysee.com/@TLAVagabond:5/Arne-Burkhardt-Interview-12-23-23:1

https://twitter.com/_taylorhudak/status/1664728755170947073

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 10, 2024 6:17 AM
Reply to  Jimmie Joe

Yeah, fortunately we have these types too, to balance shit.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 7, 2024 8:49 AM

Another brilliantly worded piece by ‘New Zealand Doc’.
A three minute read, worth every second:

https://newzealanddoc.substack.com/p/jaccuse?utm_medium=reader2

Kevin Craig
Kevin Craig
Jan 10, 2024 1:00 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Short, sharp, and to the point.

I’m aware it’s 2024, but i damn near shit myself when actually saying the words “four years ago” into myself. It barely feels like four months has flown by, and even reading back NHS advice for present day reads frighteningly similar language- with it being all the one scam, obviously.

I was only ever concerned by the public’s stupity impacting my potential earning ability- my employer was, thankfully, extremely lenient on measures imposed elsewhere, and intervened repeatedly in on-site mask/jab mandate arguments from Covidians, and doing vehemently within the favour of the individual’s right to choose.

Big Al
Big Al
Jan 7, 2024 3:36 AM

Two words – Edward Bernays, the author of the book “Propaganda”, published in 1928. Here’s a quote: “described the masses as irrational and subject to herd instinct—and he outlined how skilled practitioners could use crowd psychology and psychoanalysis to control them in desired ways.” Of course, he got that from previous practitioners, so it’s hardly new. Some humans figured out most humans long ago. Look at the Trump cult. Trump so obviously uses their favorite beefs (i.e., illegal immigration, woke democrats, etc.) to bait them and nothing else matters. He tells them what they want to hear, that’s all they need, nothing can dissuade the true believers and everything is rationalized to support that belief. I think for revolutionaries, the last 5-6 years have been valuable, in that they’ve highlighted the fact that we’re not just going against that .01% psycho class wanting to rule the planet, but also those that join them and can’t be persuaded otherwise. Particularly the scamdemic, the true colors of the human race came out in full display. If it happened once, it will happen again.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Jan 7, 2024 10:28 AM
Reply to  Big Al

A person running for president uses crowd psychology in order to win more votes (in the right places) than the other candidate who’s also using crowd psychology. The target audience is the crowd and the message often has to be delivered via the retarded filtering and distortion of the msm. If the target audience were children, you’d use child psychology. If it were animals, it would be animal psychology. As a consequence of addressing the crowd, messages will be simplified, he’ll say things he doesn’t believe, and he’ll work within narratives which he knows are bullshit. It’s all necessary to stand any chance of winning in a democratic process – and it’s got no connection with Bernays.

A meeting of psychologies:

Big Al
Big Al
Jan 7, 2024 3:12 PM

Ya, well, whatever man. I threw in the Trump thing just to fuck with the Trump cult. There’s a presence on here.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 7, 2024 7:38 PM
Reply to  Big Al

Many voted for Trump to get rid of Obumba. Only to get rid of Obumba.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 7, 2024 7:36 PM

The bear just wanted to play, to say hello. Immediately the adults arrive with police, fire brigade and the marines. Tsk tsk.

Peter Mohan
Peter Mohan
Jan 7, 2024 10:32 AM
Reply to  Big Al

I’m sorry to say, but your example of the Trump “cult” puts you int the binary viewpoint club.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jan 7, 2024 11:13 AM
Reply to  Peter Mohan

most of us are. it’s not easy to not be.

Big Al
Big Al
Jan 7, 2024 3:09 PM
Reply to  Peter Mohan

Does that mean you’re a Trump cult member? Like, a binary Cult member?
Must be some other butthurt Trump cultists on here as well, I get that every time I criticize Trump. Especially when I don’t throw in Biden while I’m at it.

underground poet
underground poet
Jan 7, 2024 12:07 PM
Reply to  Big Al

Peoples true emotions, or (personality), comes out when on alcohol or drugs. The rest of the time it stays pent up inside just waiting to get out.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 7, 2024 3:04 AM

Someone has probably posted this before, but it’s worth repeating:

‘Havel proposes that the oppressed always contain “within themselves the power to remedy their own powerlessness… Havel argued that by an individual “living in truth” in their daily life they automatically differentiate themselves from the officially mandated culture prescribed by the State; since power is only effective inasmuch as citizens are willing to submit to it.

Havel explained step-by-step that the powerlessness of the powerful is traceable to several factors: Those who rule at the top of the pyramid are fundamentally incapable of controlling every aspect of an individual citizen’s life despite their best efforts to do so. And those in petty power positions all the way down the line perform the prescribed rituals mandated by the State yet it is this blind obedience which in turn tends to dull the perceptions of the leaders at the top—inadvertently opening space for those who wish not to conform.‘

From ‘The Power of the Powerless’ by Václav Havel, 1978.

Sal P
Sal P
Jan 7, 2024 1:28 AM

Massive protests in Germany stop govt attempt to destroy independent farmers – at least for now.

I think their New World Order/Great Reset is far from a slam-dunk.

https://youtu.be/71TgM44MBoI

The Great Mistakening
The Great Mistakening
Jan 7, 2024 3:06 AM
Reply to  Sal P

Was never meant to be. It was to lead us to false “saviours” false light and a fake victory. It’s too obvious. We know because they want us to know.

If this way of thinking is correct. Then we call for a one world govt by proxy.. We go with Mob rule. We call for a more convenient system. And who will control that? Us or Capital?

We’re reaching for door No 1 for the pantomime villain. It’s not that simple imho

In Carl's junior we trust
In Carl's junior we trust
Jan 7, 2024 4:55 AM

Seeing the big picture now

Victor G.
Victor G.
Jan 7, 2024 8:11 PM

Apart from my immediate family and a handful of a few close friends, I do not use the pronoun “we” and I never have used it the way you do.
“We” who please?

The Great Mistakening
The Great Mistakening
Jan 9, 2024 2:01 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

Using it in two ways here. Applying it to those that profess to see & those that don’t.
“We” that are in this shite. Be they jabbed or unjabbed.

The Great Mistakening
The Great Mistakening
Jan 9, 2024 2:18 AM
Reply to  Victor G.

Also if inclined read a book called, We by Yevgeny Zamyatin.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 10, 2024 11:22 PM
Reply to  Victor G.

You cant run away from the jab victor. You will get it some day in one way or another.
Then you will discover the meaning of WE. WE are all in the same chicken soup together!  😅 

Dag
Dag
Jan 7, 2024 8:52 AM
Reply to  Sal P

Well, people, especially the farmers, HOPE to stop the insane policies of the German government. It´s not done yet.

Rusty
Rusty
Jan 7, 2024 12:24 PM
Reply to  Sal P

Ongoing work in progress. Chaos and social breakdown is a prerequisite for a fourth reich NWO great reset. Takes decades of planning.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jan 7, 2024 3:07 PM
Reply to  Sal P

“Video removed by uploader”

Sal P
Sal P
Jan 7, 2024 4:20 PM

Dang!

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jan 7, 2024 3:23 PM
Reply to  Sal P

NACs (ie. the natural worlds assets) are on sale.

The potential investors are the parasite class who should know what they’re doing financially.

It will be interesting to see how they fare !

Michael
Michael
Jan 6, 2024 11:20 PM

Educated Decent people – ‘I read the news today, oh boy’ … Everyone put on a mask, there’s a pandemic. I hope I don’t get it.
Educated Smart person – ‘about a lucky man who made the grade’… Did you see in the paper. There’s a pandemic. cough, cough.
Educated Doctor – ‘and though the news was rather sad’ …There’s a pandemic, caused by an ‘invisible enemy’ virus. It’s all over the news. You need a vaccine to lessen the symptoms – of a contagion that is causing people to drop dead on the spot in China. Lucky a passerby took a photo of one poor soul dead on the sidewalk.
Educated Expert – ‘a crowd of people stood and stared’… There’s a pandemic. The banks need to print $trillions to deal with it. Small businesses need to be closed. Constitutions need to be suspended. Government need to impose martial law. It’s been on the news.
Educated Scientist – ‘they’d seen his face before’ …There’s a pandemic. It’s been peer reviewed already. I saw it on the news. Woe is us. Stay six feet away from me because I know science.
Uneducated Radical Dismisser – ‘I just had to look, having read the book’.
After which – ‘I just had to laugh, I saw the photograph… Nobody was really sure if it was from the House of Lords…
…Never could be any other way’.

underground poet
underground poet
Jan 7, 2024 12:20 AM
Reply to  Michael

Timothy Leary?

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 7, 2024 3:09 AM

The Beatles, A Day In the Life:

‘I read the news today oh boy
About a lucky man who made the grade
And though the news was rather sad
Well I just had to laugh

I saw the photograph
He blew his mind out in a car
He didn’t notice that the lights had changed
A crowd of people stood and stared

They’d seen his face before
Nobody was really sure
If he was from the House of Lords
I saw a film today oh boy

The English Army had just won the war
A crowd of people turned away
But I just had to look
Having read the book

I’d love to turn you on

Woke up, fell out of bed
Dragged a comb across my head
Found my way downstairs and drank a cup
And looking up I noticed I was late

Found my coat and grabbed my hat
Made the bus in seconds flat
Found my way upstairs and had a smoke
And somebody spoke and I went into a dream

I read the news today oh boy
Four thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire
And though the holes were rather small
They had to count them all
Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall
I’d love to turn you on’

Richard Phillips
Richard Phillips
Jan 7, 2024 11:26 AM
Reply to  Johnny

“Living is easy with eyes closed,
Misunderstanding all you see,”
Lennon- Strawberry Fields Forever

underground poet
underground poet
Jan 7, 2024 12:09 PM
Reply to  Johnny

ah yes, my mistake.

Kevin Craig
Kevin Craig
Jan 10, 2024 1:06 AM

Turn on, tune in, drop out.

StStephen
StStephen
Jan 6, 2024 11:12 PM

Too many boxes? A Sydney medical centre’s patient registration form has boxes for

Birth sex: Male Female Unkown Other

Gender Identity: Male Female Non-binary Gender diverse Transexual Different Identity Other

And many more!

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jan 7, 2024 12:05 PM
Reply to  StStephen

them’s the important things!

Penelope
Penelope
Jan 6, 2024 11:07 PM

Eye-Candy Eva Presents Obama-produced Predictive Programming.

Is it likely the WEF,etc will take down the whole power-grid as the cheapest way to destabilize entire countries? Obama’s exec producer of a film that seems to say so.
https://rumble.com/v40wvbh-eva-vlaardingerbroek-exposes-new-netflix-films-connection-to-the-world-econ.html

Here’s a more detailed review of the same Obama film:

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 7, 2024 7:47 PM
Reply to  Penelope

youtube refuse to connect

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Jan 6, 2024 10:40 PM

All so very true and a conversation I have had a few times with my brother..
People refuse to countenance an alternative opinion despite the compelling evidence.
If its a government narrative supported by the MSM it cannot be questioned.
Is it just people being gullible, or just so arrogant/prideful they cannot admit they were wrong.
The whole mass formation psychosis certainly made sense but I also feel there is a malevolent spiritual force at work as well…

rangeofillusions
rangeofillusions
Jan 7, 2024 9:22 AM
Reply to  Paul Watson

The whole mass formation psychosis certainly made sense but I also feel there is a malevolent spiritual force at work as well…

Religion is so like that..

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Jan 7, 2024 3:18 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Buyer’s remorse mainly. Mix in a bit of 50 years of idiot training – bingo !

Saw this too
Saw this too
Jan 7, 2024 11:07 PM
Reply to  Paul Watson

Re: “The whole mass formation psychosis certainly made sense”

Yes, it “made sense” to the 95+% of sleepers around the world, which includes the vast majority of the “awake” individuals in the “alternative media” …

The fake mass formation psychosis script resonated with nearly all alleged advanced humans because it appeals to the core fantasies they hold about themselves as human being — the self-indulgent myth that they are only occasionally and temporarily crazy while reality proves otherwise

The insistence on self-lies does not make for true reality, no matter how fierce and prolonged this behavior continues.

“When we remember that we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.” — Mark Twain, 1835-1910

Jim Luscombe
Jim Luscombe
Jan 6, 2024 10:36 PM

This is self evident. This is for ALL the marbles, Tyranny or Freedom, Government control or Uncontrolled. concessions cannot be given if you want to control or uncontrol everything.
Please keep in mind that Government is organized crime.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 6, 2024 10:34 PM

We’ve been trained Todd.

Team loyalty (even as players and coaches follow the money and change teams), political party loyalty, brand loyalty ( the Coke or Pepsi Syndrome), religion loyalty and the most insidious, national loyalty.

The vast majority of Folks are loyal to their beliefs because it gives them comfort and security. They don’t have to question their place in the world and they can get on with buying stuff and nodding and slinging shit with their peers.

rangeofillusions
rangeofillusions
Jan 6, 2024 10:09 PM

Todd, you seem to have a lot of time on your hands.
and the internet has given you cyber psychosis despicably this new alt media lot that waffle bullshit like this.

Get out the house apartment and go meet normal people and your’ll see in real life there not as dumb as you higher being in alt media that sell engagements heighten new age enlightenment chorus manufactured talking points aimed at insatiable ego type thinking they have cracked it whilst there now in a cult of there own talking waffle on line like normal folks are sheepel! when the new alt media online lot are just as brainwashed pushing the latest contrived talking point from the MIC alt media personnel shillings bullshit for shackels.

StStephen
StStephen
Jan 6, 2024 10:24 PM

This comment had to have been “composed” by the cheaper, semi-literate model of Chat GPT: no commas (apart from the most important one, following “Todd”), poor spelling, erratic capitalization, barely a sentence break, bigger words, significant italicization…

sandy
sandy
Jan 6, 2024 11:00 PM
Reply to  StStephen

Definitely a bot, whether human or software. At least W. F. Buckley had form and style that could freeze an opponent. This approach is vintage Dollar Store. 🙂

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jan 7, 2024 12:07 PM
Reply to  sandy

most shillings is.

The Great Mistakening
The Great Mistakening
Jan 6, 2024 10:09 PM

It strongly appears we’re in a scripted reality. We’re fed events & ideologies. To mislead scare trick distract divide and ultimately enslave us.

It’s a cliché but ‘we’ must unlearn that which we learnt. We question everything. We must never assume ourselves correct or right. To be to being mistaken. To not be married to our positions. To always leave space to rip it all up and start again. To be as much as possibly devoid of ego.

The Great Mistakening
The Great Mistakening
Jan 6, 2024 11:13 PM

Some silly typos above..

Think it was James Corbett that said

“You can’t wake someone whose pretending to be asleep”

All the divisions aren’t an accident. People tend to stick to the identity the system has afforded them. Pulling at that string can make a person have to question everything. So better to deny and accidentally or not become an agent of the system and it’s owners.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 7, 2024 7:52 PM

I am always pretending so I can get more out of a situation to myself and my life.

Rara Avis
Rara Avis
Jan 6, 2024 10:08 PM

Another thing to consider is that, with the advent of AI, much of the “opposing viewpoints” on the internet are being auto-manufactured, with real human involvement getting less and less by the day. AI-generated “Deep Fakes” of all types (written, photographic, video, oral, etc.) are flooding the internet and rapidly closing the “uncanny valley” of revulsion that hypothetically exists when humans are confronted with life-like simulacra of human behaviors and capabilities. If we have not yet reached a point where the Turing Test for human verisimilitude is useless (i.e., AI fools us every time), we are getting there.

Moreover, the fact that, even if you point out that much of the outrage on the internet is artificially generated, people don’t seem to care. All they care about is their desire to vent rage at anyone (and now, any “THING”) that pisses them off. Social media gave people the ability to engage in uncivil discourse anonymously and without repercussion. Once they got hooked on that, it was but a small step to insert human (and now computer-generated) trolls to keep the adrenaline level high and the hoi-polloi worked up about anything The Controllers wanted.

Goebbels was limited to radio and print media to entrance the German people into behaviors unthinkable a generation before Hitler rose to power. Klaus Schwab and his ilk have corporate-controlled media, the internet and AI, and they are using these tools to good effect to manipulate an audience far greater than just one country. The early results are in, and it appears to be working splendidly for them.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jan 7, 2024 12:09 PM
Reply to  Rara Avis

though paid posters have been doing this for decades. defs re medical things, and irael.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Jan 6, 2024 10:04 PM

The thing is that people I encounter who have a radically different point of view do not want to debate. It’s rarely the difference in point of view that’s the bother; it’s the shutting down of conversation and, importantly, the lack of interest in coming up with considered evidence (instead of the usual comebacks of citing authority or group-think ideas) that makes my blood boil.

If there’s one rigid black-or-white thinking rule that I subscribe to it’s that everyone deserves to live their lives free from other people’s rigid black-or-white thinking rules.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 7, 2024 8:49 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

This should be the human right no.1. The right to free from Karens.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 6, 2024 9:30 PM

Its computer thinking.
Everything in the computer is a fragment of reality. On top a computer is build on a synthetic math and physic language which only exists inside the computer and cant be filtered onto the real world in the same way as normal math and physics can.

Let me explain:
A photo on your computer is a false fragment of reality without your senses involved.
You can not feel the warm or cold day, the wind, or the gravel people stand on. Only your eyes see.
A video is a row of false photo fragments of similar character. On top you have music or a speaker involved making it even more difficult to get your human senses involved to correct your perception.
Any figures, graphs, statistics, maps are fragments of false reality. No matter how many measurements and how correct these measurements are they will all be false compared to your perception on spot in the real world.

Conclusion, no matter how you collect these false fragments into an overall picture and conclusion they can and will per rational analysis only give a false profile of reality.
You should know all predictive computer models have turned out to fail and be false.

Now this is our analysis. We now go out in the real world and check whether our desk analysis is true.

Bill Gates is one example. He wake up in the morning, look into his smart phone, he goes down to his car which direct him on his route via a screen in his car.
He arrive at his work looking into a laptop all morning, in the afternoon he is at the PowerPoint explaining leadership to employees, he drive home the same way as he arrived, in his home sees TV or videos, at night he closes with his smartphone again.

Such a person cant have any clue or sense about what happens in the sunny, windy, wet, dirty, mosquito biting, smoky, stormy, snowing real world yes.
He sees all true reality through a digital filter which conclusion will always be false.

This means you are in a stage where as Karl Rove said “we are an empire and we define the reality you have to live under”. You must chose.
The guys with the money and power as Bill Gates and Bezos and Musk define real reality as the one on the screen.
Real reality dont exist for them because they dont need it.

Back to your experiences. My due CV is similar swept of the table because its reality, real work real done, degrees taken, doesnt fit into the prevailing digital defined narrative.

In our computer there is only 2 alternatives for a digital ID from the bank, only 1 in the public. Your choices restricted in a closed zero sum box.
But you choices with a physical ID has unlimited variations in the flexible real world.
Same with your money, 1 digital currency in the computer.
Unlimited barter trade, gold and silver coins, paper money, exchanges, family farm business, friends club, in the real world.
False reality versus real reality.

hele
hele
Jan 7, 2024 3:30 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

I bet part of his malevolent drive is from getting a humiliating pie in the face-on the way to meet the powerful-Belgian business and government leaders in 1998- by someone from the masses.Now he has to kill us.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jan 7, 2024 12:10 PM
Reply to  hele

e’s not even a big fish.

A.B.
A.B.
Jan 6, 2024 8:34 PM

This article is about fanaticism. But fanaticism is fueled by narcissism, it’s flip side. In fact, fanaticism is what gives intensity and durability to narcissism. Fanaticism and Narcissism are a duality. Narcissism manifests itself agressively through the masculine archetype (Jung’s negative Animus), whereas fanaticism exists passively, as a consequence of an equally degenerated feminine archetype (the negative Anima). They feed on each other and fanaticism or obsession is the measure of the neurosis actively manifesting through narcissism.

a.b.

Bryan
Bryan
Jan 6, 2024 8:25 PM

The world as it is today was and is formed by radical dismissal and radical moralisation; radical dismissal is as was racial dismissal mesmerised into a rigid white-and-black maldevelopment and maldistribution of expropriated wealth nobody dare mention. “Can the subaltern speak?” Yes, they can speak, but nobody in the First World is listening. Indeed, radical dismissal was and is not a merely personalised injustice but a fully developed system of rational ideological thought put into practice economically to create the gulf in poverty between the overdeveloped predominantly white First World and the maldeveloped predominantly nonwhite Third World. (Fanon, Spivak, Mosse, Mills, Mbembe et al.)

As such, collective-intentional radical dismissal would count as “epistemological ignorance”, “sanctioned ignorance”, and Herrenvolk historiography. The Third World has been anthropologically erased by radical dismissal, racialised exclusionary forms of moral reasoning, and strategies of silencing since whenever: economically since the ‘enlightenment’ (homo kakoeconomicus) and politically since at least Aristotle (homo politicus) (Fanon, Wynter).

Leave this Europe where they are never done talking of Man, yet murder men everywhere they find them

Everybody knows the ratio inferior is the racial inferior throughout our idealised eternal rational-barbarian historiographical acceleration of apartheid and eugenic rational anthropomorphism…. And not by metaphor or analogy; by violent repression and annihilative radical dismissal of superfluous dehumanised lives.

The agenda to polarise or binarise thinking; masses hypnotised into rigid white-and-black thinking “losing the ability to be flexible and tolerant to new or opposing ideas” is in fact the dogmatic and domination ethics of knowing that is the core of civilisational knowledge-building; as scientifically, economically and politically applied eugenics and apartheid anthropogenics of the world as it is today. Not a lot of people know about it because they do not want to know about it; whichever is the globalisation of “white ignorance” as part of the “racial contract” not to know and continue not to know (Mills)…. Whichever really is racially radicalised dismissal of the supermajority of humanity as a civilisational epistemic injustice (Fricker.)

It is almost as if reason, morality, scientific, political and economic reality were designed as radicalised dismissal – with a fundamental bipartheid conception of homo superiority and homo inferiority in mind and in practice – because they are. It is not a modern or emerging phenomena, but the very ideology civilisation is founded upon as whitewashed and sanitised intentional erasure that rarely seems to be mentioned these days, by design.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 6, 2024 10:38 PM
Reply to  Bryan

Homo claritus you ain’t.

Bryan
Bryan
Jan 7, 2024 11:00 AM
Reply to  Johnny

It is perfectly clear the First World oppresses the Third World and then ignores the fact, preferring instead to feign oppression themselves. Anyone who dares to compare the real suffering in the world with neoliberal narcissism is radically dismissed. Read the “Racial Contract” or “A Critique of Black Reason” if you prefer. Otherwise, point made.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 6, 2024 10:39 PM
Reply to  Bryan

Homo claritus you ain’t Bryan.

Johnny
Johnny
Jan 7, 2024 2:26 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Oops.

niko
niko
Jan 6, 2024 7:24 PM

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Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jan 6, 2024 7:31 PM
Reply to  niko

Very good. I have actually said some of these!

Ort
Ort
Jan 7, 2024 8:25 PM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

Todd, I’m mildly surprised that you didn’t get around to mentioning “binary thinking”, which to me is a fundamental characteristic of “radical dismissal”. 

I’m not snarking. In fact, I wonder if you share a trait that bugs the hell out of me, but persists: occasionally I blather and brainstorm about some proto-insight in my usual prolix manner– then, sometimes hours later, suddenly think of a key word, phrase, or existing concept, X, that I somehow earnestly danced around. 

If “X” had popped into my head in the first place, I would have been much more concise and clearer. You’re concise and clear enough here, but mentioning “binary thinking” would not have been amiss.

That aside, there’s a corollary or variation of “radical dismissal” that is now commonplace, even (or especially) in these very threads: the tendency to utterly reject and denounce a public figure based on a single and/or long ago “unacceptable” trait or action. I won’t Name Names, lest I trigger exactly the kind of ferocious denunciation I’m on about.

I think that there are occasions when a single aspect of a public figure’s history or perspective is a deal-breaker. One handy example for me is RFK Jr.– when he recently emerged as a frothing militant Zionist, aka a frenzied Ziocaine addict, that extinguished my general respect for him. And personally, Noam Chomsky also has skeletons in his closet, and his reprehensible prescription for COVID jab resisters and dissenters was the ultimate put-off for me.

But I’m referring to the knee-jerk habit of scrutinizing a public figure’s history, positions, or comments, and insisting that even one lapse or misstep, no matter how long ago, outweighs any evidence that the offender has evolved, changed their mind, or otherwise rehabilitated themselves. I know it’s a judgment that must be made on a case-by-case basis, but seizing on some past fatal flaw as absolute proof that the individual has no redeeming qualities is the stuff of purges and inquisitions.

Here’s a vintage James Thurber cartoon that speaks to this penchant for one-issue rejection; I hope it displays legibly:

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Annie
Annie
Jan 6, 2024 6:50 PM

Go on tiktok for 5 minutes I did worse mistake of my life didn’t think some people were like that had to clean myself spiritually.Its the devil’s notebook.

Todd Hayen
Todd Hayen
Jan 6, 2024 7:32 PM
Reply to  Annie

And direct from the CCP!

Sasha
Sasha
Jan 7, 2024 8:40 AM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

It’s as if they’re continuing what Bezmenov described as the demoralization phase of the Communist strategy to dismantle the West culturally and spiritually from within. I may have the terminology wrong, but I’m sure you’re familiar with his “revelation of the method”, the well-known interview that aired in the 70s. Thank you for this first-rate piece. It’s not just something I’ve been peripherally aware of, but have even participated in, to my own discredit.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 7, 2024 9:08 PM
Reply to  Sasha

“No matter how you show them white is white and black is black, you cannot profoundly change their wrong perception of reality”.

This was 50 years ago, and I know people in the civil defence was aware of this psy-op. But I have not seen a single attempt to crack down of the leftist’s narratives.
Maybe because the psy-op was/is approved from the British Royalty and City of London. All the “green wave”, “clima”, “environmental issues”, etc.

mastershock
mastershock
Jan 7, 2024 10:15 AM
Reply to  Todd Hayen

CCP.?
Commi’s are coming …

brian of nazareth
brian of nazareth
Jan 7, 2024 12:34 PM
Reply to  Annie

Yeah, carrying a smartphone is like have a portal to hell in your pocket.

Matt
Matt
Jan 6, 2024 5:58 PM

Another weird thing is the way people of seeming equal intelligence, could hold diametrically opposed views, with equal articulation, fervor and zeal, saying almost the identical things about one another as if there was really no difference between them, yet they were vehemently and irreconcilably opposed in their views.
A friend once told me the French word for that kind of elegant looking, full length mirror, is “psyche.”
A conversation:
US: !!!
THEM: zzz
THEM: !!!
US: zzz
Who is whom, which is which?
And, now, what about the dominant [MSM] “narrative” vs the “counternarrative?”
The counter-narrative is starting to look as fantastic and bloatedly bogus to me as the hollow MSM one, forming into a weird, almost fantasy dogma, concerning the visible and invisible puppet masters, and what the future will be, as if these plans are inevitable and consist of incontestable facts. Now, there’s even a counter-narrative media network establishment with celebrity resistance and visionary personalities.
A Circus.
It’s cockeyed.
I say, it’s all B.S.
Turn off both narratives and make life, do life, “become the narrative you want to see.”
Show me!

Hang'em
Hang'em
Jan 6, 2024 5:32 PM

remove your television from your home.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jan 7, 2024 12:13 PM
Reply to  Hang'em

much is via the www

Annie
Annie
Jan 6, 2024 5:22 PM

I’m just saying the Internet and most people are vile when I go on the social media sites that’s how I imagine hell to be.

Shipinthenight
Shipinthenight
Jan 6, 2024 6:17 PM
Reply to  Annie

Agreed, take away eye contact and many are vile cowards who snipe and sneer.
I’m finding most digital is a turn off for me. It’s all so unreliable and I crave consistency and authenticity.
Unfortunately I can’t avoid it but have to rise above it. This isn’t always easy however I believe it makes me stronger to get past it.
The best moments in my day are when one on one with other people.
I do notice that more people talk about depression these days which I suspect is exactly what is intended.

Annie
Annie
Jan 6, 2024 5:20 PM

Your not posting my posts offgaurdian?

Annie
Annie
Jan 6, 2024 5:18 PM

I did message on here I think the age of the Internet have brought out the creepy crawlers.Not on this site but go on the Internet on social media sites makes your skin crawl vile misleading attention seekers.

Annie
Annie
Jan 6, 2024 5:03 PM

Things were less stressful before the Internet. Observation I’ve never known people to be so self centred so bitchy towards others so much bullying and ignorance. I tend not to go on Internet anymore it’s mind bending soul destroying I never knew people were like this.

charles kint
charles kint
Jan 6, 2024 9:26 PM
Reply to  Annie

hey

in this world there are two things : the reporting in alternative news ( Myself I don’t go to MSM any more ) and secondly all comments , a mixed bag of everything under the sun quite often not with all best intentions , and most def. to confuse and to divide and conquer
As we go along the evil thread this horrible agenda becomes more clear: to create an enormous crises from which the great reset will emerge.
Endless money devouring wars, climate hystera with a price tag that will bankrupt the ordinary man, food and health crisis seen like never before
where as the unelected entities who dictate all this don’t even come close to practicing what they preach
It is the old story WHO BENIFITS , AND FOLLOW THE MONEY

Not sure no more.
Not sure no more.
Jan 6, 2024 4:26 PM

Like most things I observe, you have probably observed this too, and probably way before I first thought about it..
Todd knows his commenters very well…!

Rob
Rob
Jan 6, 2024 4:17 PM

One of the key things that this explains is pro war rhetoric.
Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine etc…
It’s a throwback to the boomer mentality of protecting the status quo which served them well.
But today, we aren’t getting fuck all from these wars.
That’s why we aren’t idiots anymore.

Top Cat
Top Cat
Jan 6, 2024 7:07 PM
Reply to  Rob

I’m sorry. But let me get this straight. It’s unclear due to your confusing syntax. Are you trying to float the idea that you yourself know more than any other people? I see no evidence of this idea in your post.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Jan 7, 2024 12:40 AM
Reply to  Top Cat

Take it positive. From idiot to boomer.

sabelmouse
sabelmouse
Jan 7, 2024 12:15 PM
Reply to  Rob

ww1!!! wnteroak, the first reset.