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The “they’re all in it together” rebuttal canard

Multipolarity is a crock

Iain Davis

I am among a relatively small group of independent researchers and journalists who question the proposed multipolar world order.

One of the objections often thrown my (and our) way—by those who presumably support a new world order led by the BRICS+ group of nations—is that we critics of multipolarity are claiming, with regard to national governments, that “they’re all in it together.”

Having never once made that argument, constantly refuting it is very annoying. So let me outline why the “they’re all in it together” rebuttal is a canard.

Essentially the “all in it together” response runs something like this:

By only highlighting all the areas of agreement between East and West you are overlooking the very real geopolitical differences and conflicts between the two. You are claiming Putin is a WEF stooge and that Xi is a puppet of the White House. We only need to look at their statements and foreign policy commitments to know this isn’t true. Yours is a ridiculous argument, you stupid “they’re all in it together” proponent. Obviously you couldn’t be more wrong. 

While making this riposte suggests the defenders of multipolarity haven’t read anything we’ve written—or have deliberately misinterpreted it—it is a not a cogent argument in any event. It needs to be exposed.

The multipolar world order (MWO) is touted as a potential antidote to the current, claimed, international rules based order or system (IRBO). The IRBO emerged as the Western-led consensus on international relations under the “unipolar world order,” headed by the US / NATO alliance of nations states. The IRBO and unipolarity dominated geopolitics following the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The IRBO—and the unipolar world order—is predatory and serves the economic and geopolitical interests of Western developed nations, at the cost of everyone else. It has allowed the West to instigate, sponsor and engage in conflicts all over the world. The IRBO aligned nation states pillaged resources, installed puppet governments and exploited weaker nations as they liked. The IRBO is little more than a neocolonialist project of a public-private empire. There are no actual rules beyond “might is right.”

On this we can all agree. There’s nothing worth defending with regard to the IRBO.

The problems begin when you start pointing out that the MWO is not, in fact, an antidote to the IRBO. It is the evolution of the IRBO. Multipolarity is virtually an enabling act for a new system of global oppression and the transition to a new global economic model.

The is flatly denied by MWO advocates. The argument between MWO backers and opponents appears to be rooted in a dispute over the nature of oligarchy.

Hitherto, the numerous attempts by a global oligarchy to construct a “new world order” (NWO) were fiercely criticised by almost the entire Western “independent media.” The “global” reach of oligarchs—who care little for nation states—was consistently exposed and reported. Thoroughly researched historical evidence was published, and frequently cited, demonstrating that global power networks, combining both public and private institutions, existed above and beyond national government control.

Now, in the West, some segments of the so-called “independent media” are claiming that oligarchs do not manipulate “all” nation states. Certain countries, such as China, India, Iran and Russia, have allegedly brought their oligarchs to book to reestablish politician-led governmental authority over their respective polities.

Instead, the MWO pushers claim, we are witnessing the “return” of political realism. Apparently, that realism no longer includes analysis of oligarch influence.

The BRICS+ led nation states are opposing the rules of Western oligarchs. This supposedly explains why they want a MWO founded upon adherence to an allegedly real system of international law and multilateral decision making. The governments of these countries are no longer willing to suffer the tyranny of the Western oligarch-led IRBO.

Or so we are told.

It seems like a dwindling number of us in the “independent media” maintain that a “global public-private partnership” (G3P), controlled by a global network of oligarchs, still exists and is still intent upon establishing its NWO. We are Luddites because we keep banging on about the “fact” that certain policy commitments are common to all countries. No matter which side of the IRBO/MWO fence they sit.

All governments, in all major economies, are avid enthusiasts of SDGs, biosecurity, digitalisation, tokenisation, the censorship of “disinformation,” CBDC (digital money), population surveillance and, most crucially, global governance under the auspices of the United Nations (UN). We who criticise multipolarity, suggest these policy commitments can be viewed as the pillars of the modern NWO.

Further, the tiny band of MWO critics point out that agreement on the pillars, insisting they are all necessary, is practically unanimous among UN member states. What remains appears to be horse trading over who leads the MWO and how pillar policies will be implemented in respective nation states. Evidently, what is never up for debate is not implementing the pillars.

This suggests oligarchs exert external influence upon international relations, potentially leading to conflict. There is evidence of supranational sovereignty and political authority being exercised, right now, by a global network that operates beyond the reach of national governments.

“No, no, no” proclaim multipolarity’s advocates. No such evidence exists. Such oligarch control may occur but it only impacts the West.

All we need do is look at Ukraine or the the Middle East to see the very real conflict between East and West. When we look at the statements of people like Vladimir Putin, it is obvious that he is among the global leaders who oppose the Western-led IRBO and global control by “Western” oligarchs. The realpolitik tensions between adversarial nation states couldn’t be clearer. The BRICS+ nations are opposed to oligarchy. The MWO proposed by Putin and his fellow BRICS+ leaders is intended to deliver a better world.

MWO defenders absolutely deny that nearly all governments want to implement the pillars of the NWO and support the same global governance system, regardless of how blatantly obvious it is. And if it is true, they say, it doesn’t matter anyway. The MWO is how we will all defeat the IRBO—which is all that matters—and build a global community of sovereign nations states who will make fairer, multilateral global governance decisions.

The idea that “they’re all in it together” is preposterous, they claim. East and West are fighting each other for heaven’s sake, you fool. Get behind the right political leaders promising peace and stop doubting the good guys.

This rebuttal is like claiming that professional boxers beating each other to a pulp proves the pugilists are determined to resist the international boxing federation. It is tantamount to asserting that boardroom backstabbing is evidence that the corporate executives, enriched by the success of the company, are intent upon undermining the corporation they all profit from.

Not only is this geopolitical analysis predicated upon the idea that some politicians are suddenly trustworthy, and everything they say somehow constitutes evidence, it completely dismisses everything we have learned from historical researchers like Norman Dodd, Antony C. Sutton, Carrol Quigley, G. Edward Griffin, Patrick Wood and many more. It is as if history is no longer relevant.

No one who criticises multipolarity denies the reality of geopolitical competition; none of us think violent conflicts and wars between nation states and their proxies aren’t real; not a single voice, warning against the MWO, thinks people aren’t being killed as governments fight for supremacy and no one is arguing that governments are “all in it together”—assuming “it” refers to the creation of a multipolar world order.

Quite evidently, there is very real and bitter conflict between nations and it is causing immense suffering. In fact, one of our chief concerns is that the transition to a MWO will cause significantly more suffering.

What we are saying is that there is no disagreement on the pillars from any quarter. But this is no claim that national governments are “all in it together.” On the contrary, the fact that there is both conflict and, at the same time, global agreement on the pillars, suggests a “geopolitical reality” that no member of the multipolar fan club seemingly wants to discuss.

Agreement on the pillars does not suggest all national governments are of one, single hive mind. It suggests that governments do not control the global governance system. They are subject to it, just like the rest of us. The best they can achieve is “partner” status. And they are not senior partners.

The pillars did not originate with national governments. The pillars were mapped out by public-private globalist think tanks and international organisations that serve the interests of oligarchs.

As the Chinese government openly declares:

China maintains that for the world, there is only one system, which is the international system with the United Nations at its core, that there is only one order, which is the international order based on international law, and that there is only one set of rules, which is the basic norms governing international relations based on the purposes and principles of the UN Charter. China actively participates in and leads the reform of the global governance system.

This “leadership” is transitioning the world to precisely the global governance system, replete with its SDGs, CBDC (digital money), surveillance, censorship and centralised global control of all nation states, that the oligarchs want. It is a bid to install the latest iteration of the “New World Order.”

This is also the global tyranny that, until very recently, nearly every Western commentator in the “independent media” was warning against.

Now, a growing chorus is suggesting we should accept the MWO because it will allegedly defeat the IRBO. This is a false dichotomy and a propagandist trap.

The IRBO is undoubtedly on its way out, but global oligarch networks haven’t suddenly vanished. Far from it. We only need look at recent events to see who is actually profiting from them. The IRBO’s demise is necessary for the birth of the MWO, and through it, establishment of the oligarch’s NWO global governance technocracy.

The irony is that the Eastern independent media—where it exists—continues to question the oppression of global governance and remains highly critical of it. Yet some in the Western independent media seem pathologically averse to even acknowledging, let alone reporting, criticisms made by Russian independent commentators, for example.

As multipolar advocates claim that none of this is true, then I ask them to provide some evidence of one major economy that is not erecting the pillars. Can the MWO campaigners please explain how it is possible that all leading economies are pursuing the same policy platforms, simultaneously, without centralised, global coordination and policy control?

As multipolar supporters rightly point out, governments from East and West are evidently at loggerheads on numerous issues. They do not agree and they are not “all in it together.”

So why are they all implementing the same pillar policies? Where is the global policy coordination coming from if not from antagonistic “sovereign” nation states?

We who question multipolarity do not believe that any system of global governance can possibly serve the interests of humanity. Such as system is, by default, designed to benefit oligarchs, not the people.

Yes, the conflicts are all too real, but they are clearly battles for position within one, agreed and accepted global governance system. The NWO pillars are already being put in place in nearly every nation state because governments are beholden  to their oligarchs. While oligarchs occasionally disagree amongst themselves, the global network of oligarchs want their NWO technocracy above all else.

Criticising the MWO is met with denial, refusal to debate and strawman arguments. It is false to allege that the critics of multipolarity assert that all governments are “in it together.” Governments are subservient to a global governance hierarchy they don’t control.

The oligarch’s NWO is being sold to us as the multipolar world order and, for some reason, it is receiving widespread support from sections of the Western independent media.

You can read more of Iain’s work at his blog IainDavis.com (Formerly InThisTogether) or on UK Column or follow him on Twitter or subscribe to his SubStack. His new book Pseudopandemic, is now available, in both in kindle and paperback, from Amazon and other sellers. Or you can claim a free copy by subscribing to his newsletter.

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Josh Gates
Josh Gates
Feb 20, 2024 2:05 PM

Nobody needs these stupid dictatorial pricks forming the BRICS!!! Shove your stupid Russian imperialistic Nazi bullshit propaganda (new world order, multipolarity) up your fucking ass, full-tonto, fraudulent asshole!!!!

Edward Bearnaysauce
Edward Bearnaysauce
Feb 18, 2024 1:41 AM

Perhaps their is some clamor over deck chairs ( whether they are on the Titanic- or the Olympic) but Captain Stubing is calling the shots

el Gallinazo
el Gallinazo
Feb 17, 2024 8:09 PM

Yes, what Iain is saying in a nutshell is that it is the old divide and conquer ruse. Worked for many thousands of years and few are still the wiser. The tip off for the slow of mind was Putin backing the scamdemic, the clotshot, the global warming hoax, and refusing to publish adverse reactions to the Sputnik clotshot. I won’t even start with Xi. As to the West, they are deliberately committing suicide (for their populations and what is left of any valid national culture) through what would traditionally be referred to as treasonous leadership. As the blunt, no nonsense talking financial analyst, Bill Holter, puts it, “it’s too stupid to be stupid.”

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Feb 17, 2024 8:06 PM

James Corbett on Foreign Interference Corbett again reports Nuland’s statement regarding the $5bn of support given to Ukraine from 1991 to 2013; i.e. $230mn p.a. over a period of 22 years. But does he anywhere report the Kremlin’s support to Kolomoisky of “several billion dollars” which was transferred “two or three years” prior to 2014? This transfer is highly relevant given that Kolomoisky played the lead role in two major aspects of the project; namely, the formation of the “nazi” paramilitaries and the grooming of Zelensky for the presidency. Moreover, although Corbett states that Putin is working to the Globalist agenda, does he anywhere consider the possibility that Putin and Nuland are working for the same masters? That is, the supposed “leak” from Nuland, together with the “nazis” and her statement about biolabs, is just part of a theatrical production? And the two funding streams were applied to different aspects… Read more »

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 18, 2024 2:32 AM

..and notably Kremlin never spilled just a drop of coffee or drop of inconvenience on Kolomoisky’s, Zelensky’s, Abramovich’s fine expensive black suits, all three Bolshevik billionaires, while these three Doos were moving around the Azov Nazis in Ukraine.

I suspect Kremlin was involved in the killing of the heroes in Donbass, because they became a little too popular and a little too successful against the Ukros, but do only have my suspicion.
Fishy smell around these “President killings” and Kremlin’s passivity and “equal partners” bs.

Ennes
Ennes
Feb 17, 2024 7:03 PM

“They’re all in it together”

Yes, without a shadow of a doubt and the Winteroak website has many receipts: the info and sources to show us – not just the what and how but also the who and why:

https://winteroak.org.uk/2023/07/17/brics-in-the-wall-of-global-greed/

sandy
sandy
Feb 17, 2024 5:43 PM

Agreed. I would add, since they have clearly laid all their cards down on the table clear for everyone who looks, the oligarchs, the elites, the elected or whatever you want to call those who make policy and “rules” that control us, are functioning exactly like an Untouchable’s show Mafia Boardroom. They can play their Great Game monopoly play amongst one another vying occasionally for top dog, but all the blood,pain and suffering only affects the world’s 99% that are their obedient, puppet minions. Everything they do is totally and complete bullshit insanity and brutal crushing cruelty. Like pouring salt on snails. When the world’s 99% realizes this fraud, we can all walk away from participating, obeying or even listening, leaving them income-less, authority-less and washed out into vans down by the river.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 17, 2024 3:05 PM

Research now confirms what we knew. The global project to jab everyone – whether uni-polar or multi-polar – was mayhem, genocide and money madness on an unprecedented scale. But you don’t say that expressly in scientific writing.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/scientists-call-global-moratorium-covid-mrna-vaccines-immediate-removal-childhood-schedule/5848049

Allie GoPro
Allie GoPro
Feb 17, 2024 11:42 AM

I think it’s time to update the idea about what war is. The idea it’s competing power blocks was old even in Orwell’s time. Could it be more obvious the “wars” are covid by another means? They aren’t even trying to win. They are using the wars to destroy resources and people and to distract us with fear and horror. They agree to kill each other’s proles for mutual benefit. It’s a globalist class war of them against us.

Edwige
Edwige
Feb 17, 2024 11:30 AM

Putin gets interviewed by Tucker Carlson (who was useless) – big opportunity to assess the state of Western opinion towards Putin and see if there’s enough hatred – there isn’t – along comes…. well I never, isn’t that a coincidence?

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Feb 17, 2024 2:35 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Tucker works for Russian organized crime.

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Feb 17, 2024 4:52 AM

Looks to me as if Iain is reluctant to take the final few steps and draw the conclusions of his own research and the unquestioned facts he draws together. That is to say they are all in it together and the wars are fake as fuck. I’ve been trying to understand the Ukraine madness as an actual war since Day 1 2022, and I can’t and only conclusion I can come to is because it’s not an actual war. Back in the day I used to post here and on Facebook and couple other places asking people to point me to any actual video of real warfare or combat situations in the Donbas regions. No one ever did. And I have never found any. Iain – see if you can find any mate. Meanwhile the unanswered questions and funny stuff just proliferates. 1 – Why the fuck is there zero… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Feb 17, 2024 5:38 AM

There’s lots of war footage. See for instance:
https://funker530.com

Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Feb 17, 2024 10:51 AM

Yeah there’s tons of it, and all of it looks like the stuff I describe above. Clapped out Soviet era hardware, small handful of unfit untrained ‘soldiers’ tooling round old bomb sites or firing at invisible enemies. Or video game type footage of AVs being blown up from a distance, usually with actual bloody movie music played over it. Yours is just more of the same mate, sorry

brianborou
brianborou
Feb 17, 2024 2:24 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

And as a result of the destruction of British depleted uranium munitions by Russian long range cruise missiles, the radiation levels increased just they had in Iraq and the former Yugoslavia after spent DU shells were used.

Radiation level increased in Khmelnitsky after projectiles were destroyed with depleted uranium 10:18 – Social Bites

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Feb 17, 2024 8:19 PM

We’ve had this exchange several times before and it comes down to you having a highly restrictive definition of “war”. Moreover, that definition gets more restrictive every time I counter your argument. Now you seem to think that it’s a war only if they fight with modern equipment. If, instead, they use up all the old equipment, that somehow is not a war.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Feb 17, 2024 8:57 AM
mastershock
mastershock
Feb 17, 2024 9:28 AM

The Ukraine thing stopped Covid.
Literally no news of covid after Feb 20 2022.



Red Pill Reader
Red Pill Reader
Feb 17, 2024 10:53 AM
Reply to  mastershock

Correct. Funny, right.

brianborou
brianborou
Feb 17, 2024 2:31 PM

” Correct. Funny, right. ”

Wrong !

The Numbers Don’t Lie: Excess Deaths—Ed Dowd | UKColumn

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 19, 2024 1:29 AM
Reply to  brianborou

There are only idiot numbers in this link, quite revealing yes?
Numbers from Nov. 2022, numbers from 3 quarter of 2021, but no specific area nor relation.
Statistics is a manipulation tool which can only be used as an indication which must be evidenced from real life, and this cannot be said enough times.

So you see the problem with all these fear links and their weak and loose numbers is that they reveal the Author(s) behind them, as controlled opposition.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Feb 19, 2024 9:18 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

If you happened to actually read and listen to the discussion, you would have observed the following concerning the areas related to the numbers. In this interview, four areas of concerning data are highlighted: 1.Actuaries’ tables from US life insurance companies 2. British National Health Service sickness absence rates 3. British excess death rates 4. UK PIP (British disability benefit recipients data) The 1st table relates to life insurance. What happens to any insurance policy when there is more risk ie : house, car, maritime insurance policies ? The cost of the policy increases. 2, 3,4 again relate to costs. What happens when costs increase ? You pay. The problem is sometimes people lose their way in a wilderness of mirrors instead of, to misquote the ad, it does what says on the tin. Oh yes, instead of hurling slime and smear , which I normally see on the MSM,… Read more »

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 19, 2024 12:09 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

Ok, it was just because I have seen these links a dozen times and became irritated. But you just confirm what I said.

Why could these statistics be manipulated and not telling the truth?? Because these manipulated fear porn figures makes many prices go up.

Do you got my point now or do you still believe Big Insurance, Big Pharma, Big MIC, Big MSM would never do that???

Brianborou
Brianborou
Feb 21, 2024 9:23 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Hmm, do insurance rates go up or down when more claims are made? Eg In the U.K. when you take out compulsory car insurance, your costs will increase if you make a claim or have an electric/ high performance car because of increased risk. If you have pet insurance and you make a claim , your costs increase because their is more risk for the insurance company. If you are in a war zone, your life / transportation or in a high risk profession such as a steeplejack insurance costs will significantly increase . Again, because there is more risk for them. Now, to misquote Churchill there are lies, damned lies and statistics which the power of statistics to bolster weak arguments. Frequently, it is trotted out by politicians to bamboozle the electorate into supporting them. However in the world of insurance, this is seldom the case as anyone who… Read more »

JanJ
JanJ
Feb 17, 2024 4:04 PM

I have the same observation. It doesn’t actually look like a large scale war. It’s either some 3-4 People shooting at some People we cannot see, or lone old soviet tanks bring blown up by a drone or something. This must be the most low-intensity war ever conducted, because there are literally no footage of big battles or offensives, just skirmishes here and there. I call BS on this «war».

rubberheid
rubberheid
Feb 18, 2024 4:41 PM
Reply to  JanJ

well take Bojo’s shilling and check the front out yourself, given its “low intensity”, you should be fine.

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Feb 17, 2024 9:21 PM

BTW: the up and down voting is not organic. I know of nowhere else on the internet where this “it’s all fake” view is espoused. And I know of no named person who supports it. If it had the level of support as indicated by the voting, that support would also be more widespread. Also, fixing the vote is somewhat easier than faking a war!

Brianborou
Brianborou
Feb 18, 2024 8:09 AM

Spot on !

rubberheid
rubberheid
Feb 18, 2024 4:43 PM
Reply to  Brianborou

agree with both of you,
and
OG’s tolerance of “everything is fake” is farcical, frankly.

Sophie - Admin1
Admin
Sophie - Admin1
Feb 18, 2024 5:09 PM
Reply to  rubberheid

Are you suggesting we should ban people who claim something might be fake? Like the UK establishment is currently trying to do with Richard D. Hall?

rubberheid
rubberheid
Feb 18, 2024 6:37 PM

yawn, answer our reality of why smarting, pointed posts are removed, but Tony conquers all? you of all people Sophie, at the end of the day you acussed this crittur of stalking you did you not? yet he still gets to post his soft porn lover boy articles on women?

come on admin, must do better.
; )

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 18, 2024 7:12 PM
Reply to  rubberheid

I haven’t removed any smart, pointed posts. You’re just being the troll you usually are, and I find that far duller than Tony’s posts (which are regularly held back, btw, if they are long and off topic). A2

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 18, 2024 7:03 PM

I know of nowhere else on the internet where this “it’s all fake” view is espoused.

I don’t know that you’re correct about that, but say you are, isn’t that the great thing about the internet?

I dont’t know the number of po-faced criticisms appealing to authority/establishment/consensus Offg received during 2020|22, but you can hardly expect this argument to work now lol

Covid revealed how stage-managed our media and politics is. Where did that infrastructure go? Should we assume it only applied to Covid, and doesn’t apply now? Many think that’s a silly thing to do.
A2

rubberheid
rubberheid
Feb 18, 2024 7:49 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

yeah, and I am ekologistika, lol your accusations (troll) are as acute as you environmental nonce, so suck that up. Sick of you pukes. you’re admin crew have probably deleted several thousand pointed posts, fact, why don’t we ask the “cleintele”. Yet tony endears you? are you a perv that condones stalking your co-workers? Let me draw all spoofie’s posts about opmoc from the record SAM. It’ll show you up badly, you opmoc lover. so… FUCK RIGHT OFF YA SHOWER OF 77 DATA HARVESTERS. site has become joke, look at views, pathetic. Fuck you sim, spoofie and that other patronising entity, and george mc that content creator and all the rest, probably just a handful of “creative writing class” types. Admins hypocracy and lies have RUINED OFFGUARDIAN. FACT. refute that admins! you lie and manipulate and your thumbing system is an apparent influencing tool. OUT. (on ye go, tell me… Read more »

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 18, 2024 7:53 PM
Reply to  rubberheid

Yawn

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Feb 18, 2024 8:20 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

My point above concerns the voting, which clearly is fake, rather than the position. I think it’s reasonable to have “it’s fake” as a default position. And there’s certainly a lot of fakery going on with the Russia-Ukraine conflict. However, the absolutist position of “it’s all fake” is just as retarded as the opposite one which dismisses anything labelled as “conspiracy”.

With regard to other people espousing the “it’s all fake” position, I’m sure it exists. It’s just that I haven’t come across it.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 19, 2024 12:03 PM

My point above concerns the voting, which clearly is fake, I usually put no store in the voting since it’s often gamed by trolls – most prominently on neo-Nazi posts, which get insane voting traffic. Since you’ve identified the problem, you could certainly help this website and this community by pointing it out on some other topics. Would you be up for that? However, the absolutist position of “it’s all fake” is just as retarded as the opposite one which dismisses anything labelled as “conspiracy”. Well, take anything to extremes and it gets silly, sure. Most of the time that goes without saying, BTL, don’t you find? You and Red Pill are both longtime commenters, do we need to teach granny to suck eggs here? 😅 Red Pill made some interesting observations, but most importantly, he/she invited challenge by appealing for additional evidence. This doesn’t look like the sort of… Read more »

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Feb 19, 2024 7:10 PM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

I usually put no store in the voting since it’s often gamed by trolls – most prominently on neo-Nazi posts, which get insane voting traffic. Since you’ve identified the problem, you could certainly help this website and this community by pointing it out on some other topics. Would you be up for that? I have previously pointed out the ideational collective, but I won’t be policing the site. Red Pill made some interesting observations, but most importantly, he/she invited challenge by appealing for additional evidence. This doesn’t look like the sort of ‘absolutist’ mindset you refer to. As stated above, every time I provide evidence, the definition of “war” becomes more restrictive so as to exclude that evidence. See Games People Play. I just think these sorts of discussions, whether we agree or not, are incredibly important Agreed. That’s why I’ve posted above and elsewhere on the “Nazis” and “Nuland”… Read more »

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 19, 2024 10:45 PM

I have previously pointed out the ideational collective, but I won’t be policing the site.

oh I thought that’s what you were doing.

I’m not aware of making an appeal to consensus

Oh I thought you’d done exactly that.

And then you make an appeal to consensus; or Daddy; or Big Sis!

What? Perhaps the confusion is stemming from you not knowing what an appeal to consensus is?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 19, 2024 1:34 AM

Exactly what I have pointed out. If these thumbs were truth thumbs I would get 33 thumbs up every time I comment here, which I do not get. Proved!

Hemlockfen
Hemlockfen
Feb 16, 2024 9:03 PM

And I thought that wanting to poison infants was enough proof………..

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 19, 2024 1:44 AM
Reply to  Hemlockfen

Good point.

Wanting to test and inject a new experimental gene therapy vaxx on infants and “the entire global population” after the swine flue scandal and the ebola and zika fakes, should be enough proof for even a 100% born mental disabled.

But if we if we should be polite to these people, they must have been exposed to some kind of hypnosis, mass psychosis, or spell.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 16, 2024 8:59 PM

All the so-called governments are privately owned and controlled CORPORATIONS, not public institutions. The public own no shares, no stock. The public have no control of the corporate entities masquerading as governments. They cannot be disbanded by the public, the public cannot audit any government, nor can the public dispose of assets allegedly (but not factually) being held in trust for the public. Ergo, until you know who and what owns these corporations, who holds the original stocks and shares, who sits on the boards of these corporations and orgs (legal fictions) masquerading as federal, state or local governments, courts and supranational NGOs, then you and the rest of the media (alt or mainstream) are only ever either repeating or evaluating false statements made by an international cabal of liars, frauds, criminals and Freemasonic actors who simply release false statements to dupe the populations inhabiting the land masses claimed to… Read more »

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 16, 2024 10:05 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Succinct, salient and spot on.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Feb 17, 2024 3:02 AM
Reply to  Researcher

They’ve created a monster and I suppose when that happens they initiate monster destruction operations before rolling in the new monster con system. New monster, of course, same as the old monster.

boxofcrayons
boxofcrayons
Feb 17, 2024 4:39 AM
Reply to  Researcher

corporate contrivance to control the markets, is an ancient game, and would be uncommon, derelict even, if the peremptory “powers” were playing an inferior system of exchange.

Raoullo
Raoullo
Feb 17, 2024 8:54 AM
Reply to  Researcher

If you were looking for a planet at a hunter-gatherer stage of evolution in these space coordinates, I’m sorry that we don’t refund one-way tickets. We could perhaps recommend you try the Orion Nebula for a fresh start the next time around?

mastershock
mastershock
Feb 17, 2024 10:16 AM
Reply to  Researcher

When Trump gets in, he will drain the swamp....  😂 
The MSM alt media still believe that when the rightman or lady takes office things will change.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 17, 2024 3:35 PM
Reply to  mastershock

Lol. Yeah.

“I’m the father of the vaccine”.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 19, 2024 1:47 AM
Reply to  mastershock

…dont forget Trump cleaned out all the pedos ….ehh bee or at least he would have done it if not the lgbt team have stolen the election

Jin
Jin
Feb 18, 2024 1:12 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Romley Stewart, Justinian Deception youtube channel?

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 19, 2024 5:11 PM
Reply to  Jin

No, he’s misinformed. There’s no remedy under common law. None. The masons involved in the common law psyop, falsely conflate common law with natural law.

The two have nothing to do with each other.

Common law is derived from Roman Law (we are still under worldwide control of the Holy Roman Empire) and its history and use is in the UK and the 80 or so other countries that were under British rule. It’s based on case law, precedents and judgements. It’s a man made, positive law.

NATURAL LAW is a set of immutable, intrinsic and innate principles based on objective morality and the right and wrong behavior of humans. They are considered negative laws.

Speedwellian
Speedwellian
Feb 19, 2024 2:26 AM
Reply to  Researcher

It could be argued it is by consent, that’s what all the propaganda is for. The slavery system have levels and at every level they enslave the one below. Half my country feeds off the other half.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 19, 2024 4:45 PM
Reply to  Speedwellian

No, consent means informed, free from fraud, coercion, deception, racketeering, threat or violence.

And what about the billions who don’t consent, who never consented?

Voting will always be fraudulent, because you can’t transfer rights you don’t have to another.

This is the apex of the fraud, creating false authority systems of enslavement and ownership of life and property through the cestui que vie trusts all governments possess on their citizenry, that aren’t lawful.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 16, 2024 8:05 PM

Agree totally. It is not thunder or earthquake, it is battle formations from Xerxes Army.
https://youtu.be/GvOZgGmxsCM

President Xi: “China maintains that for the world, there is only one system, which is the international system with the United Nations at its core, that there is only one order, which is the international order based on international law”.
Remember “the International Rules Based Order with free navigation in free waterways”?

President Putin to Tucker Carlson: “We are no more Commies, we are Bourgeois like you, we are like you, we wanted to be equal partners with Moderna and Pfizer, and we want so badly badly badly to be like you”.

Europe cant keep up with these two wagging poodles. “Sit”.
So the only hero left on a major scale is Erdogan. May Erdogan lead us the 300 to the final victory  😖 .

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Feb 16, 2024 7:58 PM

The oligarchs whether in the West or the East all have a history of megalomania, greed and psychopathy. Perhaps that goes with being an oligarch. Psychopaths are serial/habitual liars so the public pronouncements from both sides aren’t necessarily what they really believe, think or want! Actions are the litmus test not words.
Time will determine which side, the NWO or MPO, wins out and what this really means for humanity’s survival and wellbeing. For now the disagreements, and conflicts amongst the plutocrats pose existential threats to all humanity and we need to keep our eyes and our minds open to discern which way things are going to go.

Raoullo
Raoullo
Feb 17, 2024 8:58 AM

Yup. And don’t forget that ‘good folks’ have the best ‘leaders’ their money can buy.

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Feb 18, 2024 3:50 AM
Reply to  Raoullo

The masses actually don’t buy the leaders, the plutocrats already own them.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Feb 16, 2024 7:57 PM

If the all the countries are ‘in this together,’ who is coordinating it? Don’t answer, yet. The policy of a “Third British Empire” was promoted by the Cecils, financed by Roth and finessed by Milner. An idea which originated with the Liberal aristocracy, given as a job of work to the middle class graduates of LSE and Oxford, and disciplined through clubs like the Fabians, was above all to bring the United States back into the British fold. Initially Cecil/Roth/Milner wanted a federation. When that proved impossible, they sought to make the U.S. a dominion like Canada. And when that failed they settled on a Commonwealth. The Commonwealth concept took off after WW2 but it was always fuzzy. A club, league or union of nations was the solution – not new as Tennyson had written of it almost a century before. Professors Carroll Quigley, Antony Sutton and Revilo Oliver have… Read more »

judith
judith
Feb 17, 2024 11:30 AM
Reply to  moneycircus

James Corbett has done a few videos on this subject. The Secret Round Table. Fascinating.

brianborou
brianborou
Feb 17, 2024 2:48 PM
Reply to  moneycircus

All roads lead to the City of London and Vlad the Impaler Putin showed them door after discharging the Rothschilds chief emissary in Russia.

The Real Crime of M. Khodorkovsky, by F. William Engdahl (voltairenet.org)

The Royal family has for the last couple of centuries been indebted to the Rothschilds in one form or another.

Hidden history : the secret origins of the First World War : Docherty, Gerry, 1948- author : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Totalitarianism
Totalitarianism
Feb 16, 2024 6:44 PM

Kit is appearing on Gareth icke show this evening.
Will it appear on this site.>?
I not in a position to pay & subscribe to ickonic monthly to view it.

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 16, 2024 7:45 PM

I dunno, I’ll inquire!

Penelope
Penelope
Feb 16, 2024 6:05 PM

Thank you, Iain. “Multipolarity” is such a lie– not at all the goal of those who are leading it. But even if there are to be 3 or 4 regional dictatorships in the short-run, this obviously doesn’t help us.

Globalism vs Multipolarity doesn’t begin to describe the essential characteristics of a govt or society.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Feb 16, 2024 5:33 PM

We’re all obviously Globalists because we all have to live on, and share, the same globe. The argument is really about how we share the globe. Obviously oligarchs are going to oligarch, its what they do, and they will do whatever they can to achieve their goals, up to and including capturing major governments and quasi-governmental organizations. The goal for ‘us’ — the ordinary people — is to find ways to keep them in check. We have to do this because history tells us that vast acquisition of private wealth leads to waste, despoilation and degradation of the standard of life for the majority of the world’s population. These truths are, as the saying goes, ‘self evident’. They face a massive, ongoing and uphill struggle, though, because money can afford the best of everything. Economists have talked about countries where a significant part of the population is engaged in ‘defending’… Read more »

Penelope
Penelope
Feb 16, 2024 5:49 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Martin, you’re close, but you’re still seeing rival societies or nations as the actors. At the top levels they aren’t. It’s a shame that so many people call the real actors “globalists;” Better to call them tyrants.

moneycircus
moneycircus
Feb 16, 2024 8:22 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

Be careful with terminology. If globalism and globalisation are the same, the beginning is the same as the end.

Globalists pursue globalism as centralization (one world government, kumbaya, cybernetic technocracy or however you define it) in contrast to the organic process of globalisation, which is the world becoming more integrated as a result of trade, exchange, migration etc.

This is why globalists have a schizophrenic relationship with nation states. They need national authorities to corral the people — to lock them down and vaccinate them, for example.

https://moneycircus.substack.com/p/crisis-update-symbolism-and-civilizations

Raoullo
Raoullo
Feb 16, 2024 5:09 PM

That obsession with debunking Multipolarity is an exercise in futility. It’s like counting how many angels can stand on the head of a pin! Davis is someone who has thrown his lot in with the premise that any current alternative to the unipolar world order–in particular, the idea of Multipolarity–is as problematic as the former and not to be trusted. He falls for the ‘futures fallacies,’ the prediction fallacy and The fallacy of overinflated agency. He’s in fact implying that it’s actually possible to predict the future and that the present and global future can be manipulated by a small group of oligarchs around the world. In doing so, he’s excluding the myriad of factors, conditions, relationships, and random events that can and do impact the future (such as the genocide in Palestine and massive anti-government protests around the world). The truth is, no small group of individuals can fully… Read more »

CaptainSpock
CaptainSpock
Feb 16, 2024 3:41 PM

Wetiko is the dynamic which needs to be understood and dealt with. All of the games on the worldly stage are playing out as a result of us being individually and collectively possessed and driven by it’s influence.. It’s a Hydra spirit which lurks in the deep, collective unconscious and it feeds off the vibrational energies of fear, violence, greed, trauma, sadness etc

Exorcising it’s influence and awakening to the coherent and benevolent intelligence and power within the heart and soul is the only way the game changes. Many people need to accomplish this, so as to weaken it’s grip.. Try and fight the main heads on the Hydra and it only gets stronger.. It must be defeated within first of all.

Have you noticed.. No matter how many great articles you read or video presentations you watch.. It continues..

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
Feb 16, 2024 8:30 PM
Reply to  CaptainSpock

Thanks for introducing me to the notion of Wetiko. There is indeed an evil spirit, demonic possession, psychic virus metastasizing throughout this world. Indigenous people have similar concepts because they tend to be more spiritual and connected with the Cosmos than the West. The West is more focused on the material and pokes fun of the non-material spiritual realm.
In the modern world the plutocrats use their technology to amplify fear and other negative values such as greed, disconnectedness and xenophobia to allow Wetiko to spread in our psyches so we can be more easily manipulated, duped and driven to engage in more maladaptive and self-destructive behaviors. This mind virus becomes the norm and as a result collectively we see the devastating effects of it all around us.

Binra
Binra
Feb 16, 2024 3:24 PM

We are liable to frame in terms of presumed agency in polarised conflict rather than self-interest running under social/cultural dictates manifesting as ‘technological convergence’. The degree to which we are framed in and draw identity from our ‘tools’ – which includes systems of tooling, is the degree to which the drive of ‘progress’ is not only inevitable, but inescapable in terms of progressive compounding of debt-conflicts as the driving force against system failure, which to its adaptive personality, means extinction or total breakdown. By destructive and cannibalistic plunder, our world becomes the dictate and demand for sacrifice set against breakdown of the social masking order – which is a usurping of communication & exchange in shared worth or value. IE: A rigged, corrupt or false ‘order’ masking in manipulation of appeals for sympathy – such as ‘Caring’ MUST comply or be cancelled. Questioning our social identity-masking as cultural foundation does… Read more »

Bloobock
Bloobock
Feb 16, 2024 3:04 PM

This article was more than a little embarrassing to read, full of the most juvenile kind of self-important hobby club gate-keeping and self-destructive faction-forming. “I am among a relatively small group of independent researchers and journalists who question the proposed multipolar world order.” / “It seems like a dwindling number of us…” / “the tiny band of MWO critics point out that…” / “We who question multipolarity…” Versus: “MWO defenders absolutely deny that…” / “Instead, the MWO pushers claim…” / “As multipolar advocates claim that none of this is true…” / “a growing chorus is suggesting we should accept the MWO” Who are these “tiny bands” who self-identify as proponents and antagonists of these utterly inconsequential bits of discussion group dogma? And why do they hate each other so much? What difference does any of it make? Who cares whether it’s the reverse vampires, the saucer people, the RAND corporation,… Read more »

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Feb 16, 2024 3:38 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

It all depends upon whether or not you care about anything. If you aren’t in the least bit concerned about a digital panopticon being erected around humanity by self serving oligarchs then, no, it doesn’t matter at all. We can simply leave narratives evidently designed to promote that outcome alone. No need to bother challenging any of it, if you don’t care. You can simply carry on, pretending that you have a partisan obligation to defend some happy-clappy fraternity of “alt” warriors where everyone is equally committed to exposing tyranny, even those who are seemingly, for whatever reason, spewing narratives to bring it about. However, if you do care and do not want to live under the yoke of essentially fascist technocracy, and do want to do what you can to resist it, however ineffectual it might be, you have to draw a line and stand on it. What is… Read more »

Bloobock
Bloobock
Feb 16, 2024 4:33 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

I agree with everything you’ve written in this response, and even with your specific viewpoint in the original article. I just don’t think it makes any difference who, precisely, is behind the dreadful schemes that every side is pursuing. It doesn’t change the set of possible solutions. Effective resistance looks exactly the same whether there are multiple poles or a single world government. I didn’t mean to imply that what you call the “pillars” are inconsequential developments or not worth worrying about; they’re very consequential and very dreadful. But arguing about the shadows and shapes in the rain clouds doesn’t hold back the storm. Time is running out and there appears to be no genuinely active resistance movement — the freezing of the truckers’ bank accounts turned out to be an almost perfectly efficient tactic, diverting all usable energy from physical resistance into discussion and in-fighting. Personally, I think it’s… Read more »

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
Feb 16, 2024 10:26 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

You’re completely missing the point. It’s not an esoteric discussion. There is a real danger because due to the “multipolar” nonsense the vast majority of so-called ‘independent’ media are being conned into supporting Agenda 2030 without realizing it. The opposition has been reduced by about 90%. Right now there’s such confusion there is basically no opposition to the real dangers, and the agenda is rolling out at breakneck speed while the independent media talk about mostly irrelevant BS about how great Putin is.

Bloobock
Bloobock
Feb 16, 2024 11:36 PM
Reply to  Tilly Petersen

I’m sure I have missed several points, but I still think the very fact that this is still merely a discussion, after all this time, makes it esoteric. Off-Guardian itself is esoteric. The evidence for a shared global agenda has been sitting in plain sight since March 2020. Anybody who cares has long since integrated this insight into their worldview. Anybody who hasn’t is never going to. So why waste so much time and fury trying to convince them, or to slander them if they remain unconvinced? Mr. Davis’ hated “MWO pushers” are, in his own admission, just as opposed to Agenda 2030 as his Happy Few Who Question Multipolarity; it’s just that the former are a little more confused about Putin’s motives than the latter. So what? The real enemy is the agenda itself, not sectarian confusion about the hidden relationships between the actors. Nothing can be done to… Read more »

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
Feb 17, 2024 2:20 AM
Reply to  Bloobock

Hmmm…I think you might be objecting simply for the sake of making a noise and giving the vague impression you have a contrary opinion when actually by your own admission you agree with what Davis is saying, you just apparently feel the need to object – at length – to him saying it.

Bloobock
Bloobock
Feb 17, 2024 1:06 PM
Reply to  Tilly Petersen

Your criticism is identical to my criticism of the original post. Mr. Davis is attacking — at length, and with spitting rage — a group of people who agree with him on all essential points. Both sides oppose Agenda 2030. What purpose did his article serve? How does it further his cause to point at “MWO pushers” and laugh when they all want the same thing?

Premature faction-forming prevents the coalescence of coherent movements. If the party must be purged, do it after the revolution, not instead of it.

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Feb 17, 2024 2:06 PM
Reply to  Bloobock

I do not agree on the “essential point” that global governance is necessary or warranted. I never have and I can’t conceive of a time when I will. I am not “spitting with rage” at anyone. I am making as strong an argument as I possibly can to dispute the claims made by some, precisely because I consider what they are doing, whether intentional or not, counterproductive to opposing tyrannical policy initiatives like Agenda 2030. My key point is that those who support multipolarity are NOT opposing globalist initiatives like Agenda 2030. They are, in fact, promoting them. It is not a trivial nor inconsequential matter. I am also responding to a strawman argument frequently used to marginalise critics of multipolarity by some of its proponents. There won’t be any “revolution” if we blindly accept multipolarity in the misplaced hope it will save us all from the globalist predators. Their… Read more »

Bloobock
Bloobock
Feb 17, 2024 4:21 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

Fair enough. I overreacted to a tone that only I perceived, and which was not intended, and probably not even present. By “essential points” I only meant “Agenda 2030 = bad.” I’ve never met or read the thoughts of anybody who seemed genuinely to think otherwise. Even the WEF doesn’t truly believe that global governance is necessary — it’s just an idea for persisting their treasuries across the kinds of unknowable crisis boundaries that historically redistribute treasuries. Does a person naive enough to think that Putin is coming to save him act differently from someone who knows Putin is coming to get him? He writes different things on the internet, yes, but does the shape of resistance to CBDCs or digital identity look significantly different from the outside? Based on the evidence of the “pandemic” years, it doesn’t appear to me that the human race has any potential whatsoever for… Read more »

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 17, 2024 12:11 AM
Reply to  Tilly Petersen

Conned? Don’t you know WHY they’re doing that? Do you think it’s an error? Lol. It’s not. It’s to stop you and the rest of the semi-awake readers from figuring out that no governments are sovereign nor are they even legitimate. They’re privately owned corporations. They have original stock/share holders, and a board, like all corporate entities. They’re all centrally controlled through a private association. Who’s on the board of your local and federal government? Who owns all the stock? Where’s the money going? The taxes, rates and fees? Where’s the money being funnelled to and what bank accounts? Who’s really making the decisions in these private corporations and how are the instructions or agendas being disseminated, after the faux elections take place? If you don’t know the answers, maybe you should figure it out. I know no author on this site or anywhere else I’ve looked is anywhere near… Read more »

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Feb 17, 2024 3:13 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Hey researcher, who/ what do you read? I guess you’ve looked into the operating system of the colonization of America yeah? King simply claiming land, filling it with slaves and or indentured servants etc and conducting business, collecting tax, writing laws out of thin air etc…

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 17, 2024 4:59 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Yes indeed. That’s very close. All the colonizing nations had the same modus Operandi and they all declared ownership on behalf (secretly) of the Holy Roman Empire.

The most clever and audacious part, was the faux revolution, the orchestrated wars, the invalid Declaration of Independence and an entirely illegitimate Constitution. 

I read anything and everything. Particularly esoteric texts, legal and historical texts. I also research signs, symbols, heraldry, masonry and astrotheology. 

All roads lead back to Rome, (even Russia) in all “nations”, historically, religiously, legally, fiscally, structurally, culturally and governmentally. 

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Feb 17, 2024 2:45 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Yes I think so. But the con predates Rome/ Catholicism and that era of religion/ religious control. I am sure you know that. Apparently Sumer, just for example, sprang up fully functional with built in management and control systems running. So this system of corporation or of herd management…the pyramid scheme or business model is ancient. The Rome threads running back a couple of thousand years trace and outline operations to this day. But it’s just one of many models that have existed down through the ages. That’s what I’m trying to say.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 17, 2024 3:52 PM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Yes, but it’s difficult to assess the timelines for each civilization pre Holy Roman Empire since the faux historians have pooled the timelines together in an attempt to mislead us about world history and technological advancement recycling.

Ancient Egyptians. Ancient Greeks. The Ptolemaic religions. Cult of Moloch. Cult of Baal. The Assyrians and their MEDIA. The Babylonians. The Phoenicians. The Sumerians. Pagan and Druid Cults. The Atlantean’s. It’s always the same faux authority scam.

The parasites go underground every cataclysm, then reemerge with their tech, seeming foreknowledge and repetition of lies to spread their faux authority models, faux religions, repopulate and control by positioning their descendants as gods, priests or kings, every new astrological age.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Feb 17, 2024 8:45 PM
Reply to  Researcher

“ The Alantean’s” before or after the Younger Dryas ?

Esmeralda
Esmeralda
Feb 17, 2024 7:56 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Have you considered writing your own Substack? Your comments are always interesting and would make intriguing and insightful articles IMHO.

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
Feb 17, 2024 3:16 AM
Reply to  Researcher

Of course there are liars, and people who are paid to lie. But there are also people who are honestly misled by the lies, or who convince themselves the lies are true because they want to believe in certain people. Some of them are stupid and lazy, but some are striving hard but simply confused or duped.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Feb 16, 2024 7:48 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

Would you say Mr Davis that if you hold a passport, birth certificate, bank account, driver’s license, if you vote and pay tax etc that you’re part of the system?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 17, 2024 3:01 PM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Off course. We are all part of the system, especially if we vote.

Voting is a social contract where you say I am not able to take care of myself but need a politician to be my nanny and act on my behalf.

Only if you dont vote, you can claim you are an adult who can take care of yourself, but as you live in a civilisation with other people who cant, you do contribute by your taxes to get along with your fellow men and those who create the public infrastructure.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 16, 2024 9:23 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

The digital panopticon is already erected. It was in place long ago. The Masonic technocracy movement was ready for launch in 1930. The NWO isn’t in the future, it’s been operational for centuries.

The only relevant question is what we do now about the criminal corporations masquerading as the faux governments, pretending they’re legitimate when they aren’t, nor have they ever been.

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Feb 17, 2024 3:10 AM
Reply to  Researcher

These kinds of criminal organizations/ corporations masquerading as gov or religion have existed since before the earliest records of civilization or as far back as anyone can tell, haven’t they? So the con is…very old. It appears to be like that and that’s the way it is on this planet. It can’t be stopped, reasoned with, bargained with or changed from without. Astronomical or terrestrial calamity on a massive scale may, from time to time, tap dance in and smack the whole show down for a while. But it always reforms and runs cons the same old way. Probably because human nature or the human condition stays consistent forever.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 17, 2024 3:32 PM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Whatever people thinks of religion, the bible gives some answers to this question: We didnt followed the first rule, and was therefore kicked out of paradise. We danced around the gold calf and got the Ten Commandment rules down in our heads. We pissed and shitted all over the Ten Commandments, got Noahs Arch and drowned. Noah’s sons and daughters childrens children made swinger clubs, gay parades, stole, robbed, killed, and got the Sodoma and Gomorrah treatment. We made a f…finger up in heaven, gathered around the Babel Tower, burned new born babies to stone gods, we got the language confusion and spreading of people all over the globe. From there we killed, enslaved, robbed, raped our neighbour countries, and got Jesus Christ sent down to save mankind and make peace between us and God. We started, what pesses God most off, making dna experiments, continued our love for money,… Read more »

Jin_Tonic
Jin_Tonic
Feb 16, 2024 12:41 PM

This Week’s Fakes  *We will start with the alleged arrest of Reiner Fuellmich, the German lawyer allegedly pursuing new “Nuremberg” style trials for Covid genocide. The story makes no legal or logical sense, so I assume it is fake. I have said before I thought he was controlling the opposition, slow-walking these lawsuits by filing them in the wrong jurisdictions against the wrong parties on the wrong legal points, but he needed some final exit from this manufactured story, one that would do as much harm to his cause as possible. So they are painting him as a petty and comically inept embezzler, one who can’t figure out how to pay off a loan or to avoid getting double-crossed by his J8wiSh comrades. Despite being a top international attorney, we are supposed to believe he is just that stupid when it comes to finances. His fellow Corona Committee members Hoffman,… Read more »

underground poet
underground poet
Feb 16, 2024 1:00 PM
Reply to  Jin_Tonic

Obviously a case of blaming the victim.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 17, 2024 12:27 AM
Reply to  Jin_Tonic

Lol. He’s such a fraud. I figured out the way these cabal owned corporations like Deutsche Bank, VW etc., avoid paying the actual fines and damages to the faux governments in the faux countries is by having certain “lawyers” falsely litigate these cases, then the judges or juries award monetary fines that never get paid. Fuellmich and his ilk; other high up, richly rewarded Masonic lawyers and judges assist in these legal scams or “proceedings” that are acted out in court and even become part of the public record, to keep up the appearance of legitimacy of courts and governments, then the publicly listed corps like PhRMA or polluters like Exxon continue to break the so-called laws. When the judgements and monetary fines or awards are made to the government agencies, like the SEC or the DOJ, there’s absolutely no reason to enforce the fines and so they never actually… Read more »

brianborou
brianborou
Feb 17, 2024 3:10 PM
Reply to  Researcher

Smearing people such as Fuellmich, without substantive evidence, is part and parcel of the Modus Operandi of the Pressitutes. Do you concrete proof to support your claims.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Feb 19, 2024 9:28 AM
Reply to  brianborou

Still waiting for your concrete proof. While you search for, let me show you Fuellmich and his colleagues work to fight against tyranny.

https://corona-ausschuss.de/

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 17, 2024 1:44 PM
Reply to  Jin_Tonic

A pity. He was a splendid speaker, rational, analysing, concluding.

But off course it looked a little strange there was only 1 of his type resistance lawyer in the media, and next he get the usual controlled opposition scapegoat role when he has finished the analysis just before “The International Tribunal”.

I wonder whether all these “crisis actors” are appointed from “secret societies” and doing their service for Free Masonry to get a higher degree.
Im thinking of the Anders Breivik case in Norway, Navalny in Russia recently “dead”, m.m.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 16, 2024 12:04 PM

Foreign policy is now really no different than domestic policy, where we have all these parties supposedly fighting each other, but in reality controlled by the same people and leading us all to the same end. The main difference is that these ‘independent media’ types can easily see how fake the Democrat-vs-Republican show is, but they insist that, despite appearances, the BRICS-vs-NATO show is real. Sad, really …

Tilly Petersen
Tilly Petersen
Feb 16, 2024 10:30 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

💯- 👏👏👏

colin buchanan
colin buchanan
Feb 16, 2024 11:45 AM

Essentially the Marxist/Trotskyist argument that all nations that aren’t socialist are run by a “bourgeoisie” who despite rivalry will always pull together against the international working class and will always ultimately submit to imperialism. The only remedy is therefore the “international working class”, whatever that is. This is a particularly dismal outlook but fortunately one with no foundation in reality. Intense cultural differences in family structure, history, tradition,way of life, nature the financial system, political organisation etc. renders the imposition monolithic New World Order impossible. This brings the sovereign state to the fore as the antithesis of that NWO. It’s highest expression historically was the Non-aligned Movement and the Bandung accords now manifested outside the Cold War context as the BRICS movement. The content of this movement in terms of prevailing paradigm is to be determined but there is already plenty to indicate that it will not mimic Davos. In… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 17, 2024 5:24 AM
Reply to  colin buchanan

Energy is a touchstone issue vital to survival w.r.t. essential industries, in the world over-urbanised and over-complicated by capitalism. You don’t need to mix it up with imperialism and politics.

We have enough experience with alternative/new sources of energy. They just don’t add up in output, EROI, maintenance, net destruction and pollution, debt trap, etc.

The great sell-off about 5 years ago by the oil majors, and their current change of direction, is another example of the “greater fool” principle that Karl Marx wrote on.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 17, 2024 3:55 PM
Reply to  mgeo

Oil, gas, nuclear is the cheapest and most flexible energy forms, and there is unlimited resources.

Jin_Tonic
Jin_Tonic
Feb 16, 2024 10:43 AM

They must have brain damage. every time there is a selection they pull out the migrants and George soros. and just like that the COVID torture they got was forgotten..They must have brain damage!! Outlets that print your work U.k shillum sell dogshit like this to there hypnotized fanbase who scream UN and migrants George soros. They discuss ‘digital currency’ whilst excepting all it forms as donation and never mentioning the privately owned federal reserve or privately owned bank of England.! ()just to deep a rabbit hole for some of there brain damage! fanbase) Your elks have brought this IQ level down to migrants, UN and hero worship Russia fighting the deep state & Just like hero worship Trump and hero worship Leave e<>u referendum was pompously going to make the world a better place. 💤  YOUR apart of theses M.I.C outlets that keep people in light code lockdown… Read more »

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 16, 2024 11:30 AM
Reply to  Jin_Tonic

What’s in that Jin, Jin?
It ain’t just Tonic.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 16, 2024 12:05 PM
Reply to  Jin_Tonic

Did you run this comment of yours through Google Translate, or what?

roger
roger
Feb 16, 2024 10:30 AM

My Latest which ends in a simple call to action to do something about it.

Echoing the spirit of this video from Occupy Days.
Whatyagonna gonna do. Indian Indiana, cant find link

The Pulling up of the Affordable Housing Ladder.Pulling Up The Ladder.
Kit and Off Guardian crew I think that this post is worthy of an airing on the main web site.
For discussions regarding doing something please get in touch.

NickM
NickM
Feb 16, 2024 10:21 AM

“All we need do is look at Ukraine or the the Middle East to see the very real conflict between East and West.”

Correct. Today the UK and U$A support Israel’s genocidal policy against Palestinians with arms, money and diplomatic cover. Likewise they support the Ukronazis. Before WW2 the UK and U$A supported Nazi Germany’s genocidal policy against “inferior races” with arms, money and diplomatic cover. Likewise they supported anti-Russian policy in Poland and Galicia (today’s West Ukraine).

I guess many of the people in EU$A who carry water today for Zionazis and Ukronazis are belong to the same Leading Families who carried water for Franco, Musso and Hitler (“our bulwark against Communism”) before WW2 blew up in their faces.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 16, 2024 12:08 PM
Reply to  NickM

WW2 was precisely what the globalist élites wanted. Without it, there would be no UN, no NATO, no EU, no World Bank, no IMF and no Israel.

Brianborou
Brianborou
Feb 16, 2024 1:01 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

The Globalists wanted it but the USSR tried in vain to prevent it.

https://archive.org/details/maiskydiarieswar0000mais

NickM
NickM
Feb 16, 2024 6:29 PM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

Not “precisely”: the WW2 that your “globalist elites” (U$A UK and Anglo Zio Capitalism) wanted was: Hitler in CzechoSlovakia leading Poland as our attack dogs against Russia. But the treacherous hound turned against us; and the WW2 we got was: Stalin against Hitler to liberate Eastrern Europe. A war in which our Anglo Zio Capitalist countries bit the bullet and allied ourselves with Communist Russia: frightfully embarassing.

Nothing daunted, the AZC are playing the same game today: Ukronazis against Russia. Same game, same epic fail.

Cloverleaf
Cloverleaf
Feb 16, 2024 4:26 PM
Reply to  NickM

Remember to look under your bed tonight you might find a euronazi or a zionazi lurking there ready to pounce on you.

😂 😂 😂

NickM
NickM
Feb 17, 2024 7:34 AM
Reply to  Cloverleaf

No need to look under your bed when you can find EU$A-nazi President Biden and UK-nazi Prime Minister Sunak openly supplying weapons to Zionazi PM Netanyahoo so that Israel can continue its public Genocide in Gaza.

The same sort of people in the EU$A who supported Hitler now support Netanyahoo and fly a Ukronazi flag. They are all in bed together — In bed at Noon.

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Feb 16, 2024 9:27 AM

”If you want to know who controls you, look at who you are not allowed to criticize.”

Yep. As usual, l Voltaire nails it again.

But the problem is where do you go form there! No answers apparently forthcoming which has always been the problem for the (armchair) critics.

underground poet
underground poet
Feb 16, 2024 1:03 PM
Reply to  Graham Greene

It seems war would be an accurate possibility.

Voltaria Voltaire
Voltaria Voltaire
Feb 16, 2024 2:53 PM
Reply to  Graham Greene

Where to go from here Graham? Just keep communicating. Keep looking under the covers for the crimes of those one is “not allowed to criticize”. Keep doing everything possible to hold them accountable. Grow awareness to the fact that they are not just trying to own you and everything you own; they are trying to kill you. Support your true friends. Realize there are far more of them (friends) than the enemy, despite some differences and individualitys. Flourish and Prosper!!!!!!

NickM
NickM
Feb 16, 2024 9:27 AM

“It seems like a dwindling number of us in the “independent media” maintain that a “global public-private partnership” (G3P), controlled by a global network of oligarchs, still exists and is still intent upon establishing its NWO. We are Luddites…”

Which is why your number is dwindling. Luddism — like Oxford — is the home of lost causes. You are smashing the useful weaving machine (or its even more useful Digital offspring “weaving with thought”) instead of fighting the capitalists who are trying to own you body and soul by owning the machinery.

Tiggs
Tiggs
Feb 16, 2024 9:13 AM

When the inhumane elitists publicly declare; “we’re all in this together” they’re talking to each other, not The Public.
Integrity is sacrificed on the alter of ambition by elitists & media influencers alike. Most have a price. ‘Independent’ media pundits are no exception.
Integrity – priceless!

Stella
Stella
Feb 16, 2024 8:30 AM

“The oligarch’s NWO is being sold to us as the multipolar world order and, for some reason, it is receiving widespread support from sections of the Western independent media.”
Correct!

Matt Black
Matt Black
Feb 16, 2024 8:21 AM

At this stage of the game, I think everyone knows who’s in charge, Iain, BRICS is a regionalization step to usurp sovereignty from national governments and create another artificial globalist ‘supranational’ governing body that on the surface masquerades as opposition to the Western led World Order but in reality serves as the ages-old Messianic dream of International governance.

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Feb 16, 2024 8:25 AM
Reply to  Matt Black

Informed consent is the one thing they fail to point out.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 17, 2024 5:03 AM

Informed consent was always a cynical joke. In medical treatment. It is now over over 3 years from the imposition of the covid jab, for which the guinea pig acknowledged the risk, indemnified the manufacturer and certified that he was not “allergic” to any of the (secret) contents. We are into about a century of many other “miraculous” developments.

Mario J.
Mario J.
Feb 16, 2024 7:39 AM

Many hoped Putin is a good guy standing against west and it’s totalitarean grip. But he is the same guy among them, if we look his actions i.e. CBDC, WEF policy, how he treats his own people, vaxxinations, sending young people to war, silencing and killing journalists, stepping forward to Great Reset. All the little actions.

Edwige
Edwige
Feb 16, 2024 8:28 AM
Reply to  Mario J.

“sending young people to war”.

Putin’s war aim of the “de-nazification” of Ukraine is exactly the same playbook as Western war aims of defeating “terror”, “drugs” or whatever and for exactly the same reason.

Wars were once fought for a definable and tangible goal, like capturing this castle or that tract of land. The war then had to end. Wars are now fought for ill-defined and unachievable goals so they can go on indefinitely.

The probably well-intentioned focus on the Azov Batallion served this strategy. What does “de-nazification” mean? The war goes on while there’s one nazi in Ukraine?

underground poet
underground poet
Feb 16, 2024 1:13 PM
Reply to  Edwige

Putin defined a nazi as someone who wants to control you with your own money.

Confusing no doubt, and the reaction to confusion is normally more confusion until an understanding is reached.

So it seems to me, that at some time in the past, Russia trusted (or set up), the states with a mechanism so they could do just that, control someone with someone’s own money, so in the future they had someone to fight about the merits of controlling someone with someone’s own money. My guess is that the future is now, hope this clears it up for you all.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 17, 2024 4:24 PM

Socialism. Western welfare states. Taxation 70%. Biggest public sector with millions of controllers.
But isnt this exactly what CBDC is about?

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Feb 16, 2024 4:12 PM
Reply to  Mario J.

I would argue that at the level of head of state, there are no “good guys.”

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 16, 2024 6:08 AM

Global subversion and treachery went through these stages:
-. from 1945, UN set up with rigged forms of financing, trade, technical coordination and “peace-keeping”
-. from late 1970s, privatisation (kleptocracy), and reduction of government responsibility, legitimised.
-. from 2001, acceptance of the very largest businesses and “investors” as direct participants: UN Global Compact
-. from at least 2012, these businesses able to stymie initiatives
-. from 2019, “cooperation” of UN with WEF; trans-national capital deal with UN or governments as an equal.

NickM
NickM
Feb 16, 2024 9:35 AM
Reply to  mgeo

The UN is being “privatized” by Global Corporations; “Western” style. This needs to be reversed. South Africa’s successful case against Israel’s genocidal policy against Palestine is the first step toward reclamation of the UN for its original purpose.

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Feb 16, 2024 6:02 AM

In other breaking news. Your Country is being taken over with immigrants and it’s not accidental. I know, it sounds racist, but it’s not in my case, because I’m an immigrant in the Country I live in, so it’s ok to talk about this stuff when your are the victim too. A bit like Black Rappers being able to use the “N” word, but nobody else can. Anyway… Now. Personally, I don’t mind immigrants so long as one adheres to a few principles. What do you have to offer. Skills, money, big nose? If you have nothing then you can’t come. You adopt the culture of the Country you look to reside in. You speak the language. You don’t get offended when someone makes fun of the shity Country you just chose to leave. You don’t get offended by the culture you chose to move to. “They” (The same guys… Read more »

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Feb 16, 2024 7:03 AM

Bingo

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Feb 16, 2024 9:41 AM

Sort of. But during my own lifetime I remember there was a significant number of immigrants who come to Britain from the West Indies. The tended to work in the government sector – transport, post office, immigration, heavy industry, health and hospital services, mainly in the big cities. As time went by they became essentially British, second and even third generation. They became part of the working class, and kept the love of cricket if I recall.

The same process is now taking place with the Indian/Pakistani immigrants. Oh, and I forgot they spoke English as their adopted language. Even the West Indians spoke English as their natural not learnt English.

Jin_Tonic
Jin_Tonic
Feb 16, 2024 11:15 AM

It must be voting selection season.
the formalized coordinated scripts on the ready, exact same comments on tick tok, you tube comments.
The only thing missing was vote reform. 💤 

WorkingClassHero
WorkingClassHero
Feb 16, 2024 9:09 PM
Reply to  Jin_Tonic

Vote? You believe you are going to vote your way out of this shit show? I just got more votes for my comment than sunak did to get the prime ministers job.

We vote every day when we make our choices. Do you work for a corporation? a gov department? do you have a mortgage?

Work for a small business, shop only from small business, don’t vote for a corporation to run you life, don’t get health advice from GP’s, don’t take injections. Finally, what the fuck are you doing on Tick Tok?

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 16, 2024 11:35 AM

We’re all immigrants if you believe the archeologists and evolutionists.
(Out of Africa?).

Antonym
Antonym
Feb 17, 2024 2:00 AM

It is the WEF oligarch’s program to delete nationalism in the West. A homogeneous soup is easier to boil slowly.

Sunface Jack
Sunface Jack
Feb 16, 2024 5:46 AM

Iain, have a sniff at this, it may help. It is from the BRICS August summit 2023: We recognise the importance of implementing the SDGs in an integrated and holistic manner, inter alia through poverty eradication as well as combating climate change whilst promoting sustainable land use and water management, conservation of biological diversity, and the sustainable use of its components and the biodiversity and the fair and equitable sharing of the benefits arising out of the utilization of genetic resources, including by appropriate access to genetic resources…” We reemphasize the importance of implementing the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) and its Paris Agreement – Not sure if this will get through either. But worth a try. The central banks of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa are all forging ahead with plans to roll out their programmable CBDCs as soon as possible. Among those five… Read more »

Roger
Roger
Feb 16, 2024 4:42 AM

Hi Iain, Who watches the ephors, schumpeter describes the ephors of debt. I think the stagnation in all spheres of the polity has ripened beyond any pretence. The wall at the back of the theatre is being revealed as Zappa predicted. Dons a Chris Eubank lithsp. “Yew thee itsth all abowr levels in geo politics” we are not merely sleepwalking into a 1930’s 1930s-style debt deflation, it would seem we are tel-porting back into a politics of totalitarian fascism, Stalinism, Nazism or Mussolini-style state monopoly capitalism it matters not borrow the best of all three and throw in a bit of nongender binary casting to keep it refreshingly gaslighting on message. A central lack of fiber. Either moral or physical around which myths of debt are spun. As spiders spin webs and weavers warp clothe. Spartan Ephors of prudence pass judgment on all and stand above and astride the law.… Read more »

Sam - Admin2
Admin
Sam - Admin2
Feb 16, 2024 10:01 AM
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Hi Roger, please avoid copy/pasting entire substack articles. Your second comment even included the menu icon text! (I’ve removed this comment). We ask commenters to post links and quote sparingly and selectively.

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roger
roger
Feb 16, 2024 10:33 AM
Reply to  Sam - Admin2

Functionality on my phone is pretty awful, I have endeavored to get edits using the cog, etc but frankly  At 3 this morning or whenever it was after about five attempts I went with what I had. My Latest which ends in a simple call to action to do something about it. Echoing the spirit of this video from Occupy Days. Whatyagonna gonna do. Indian Indiana, cant find link The Pulling up of the Affordable Housing Ladder.Pulling Up The Ladder. Kit and Off Guardian crew I think that this post is worthy of an airing on the main web site. For discussions regarding doing something please get in touch. Added using cog which is easier to use on my desk top. I see it was 4.45 am I posted that comment it took about an hour on my phone. Anyhow as you say no biggie, I do try to maintain old fashioned… Read more »

David Ho
David Ho
Feb 16, 2024 4:23 AM

The article linked discusses these very aspects Ian highlights, the knitting together of a big chunk of the world that, till now a loose collection of counties that were subject to ad hoc predation by economic colonists. Times are achanging, the old way needs to be re-imagined, updated to apeal to (hoodwink) the more aware critical thinker. And what better way to do that than pulling a brand new rabbit out of the hat. BRICS is a cementing together a more formal structured mechanism of control, and exploitation, with a veneer of collective sovereignty, of countries that seem like they are determining their own future, together, within this new framework. Once all countries are a member of BRICS will the metamorphosis to a World Government, all sharing the main pillars of control Ian highlights, become apparent. The concealing curtain will simply have been moved onto a new, more tightly controlled… Read more »

David Ho
David Ho
Feb 16, 2024 4:04 PM
Reply to  David Ho

Correction: Iain

les online
les online
Feb 16, 2024 4:13 AM

Exposing The Emperor’s New Clothes:
The Emperor is in the altogether…

Big Al
Big Al
Feb 16, 2024 4:05 AM

Who are these “MWO” advocates and what the fuck do they want with us?
Man, no offense, but anyway you cut it, the water is boiling. You know what? WE, are all in this together, and I’m talking about all of our freedom supporting compatriots in every country on the planet. I don’t know who these MWO advocates are, but they’re seriously missing the fucking point. So fuck em.

Literally nobody
Literally nobody
Feb 16, 2024 3:50 AM

Superb. This belief/retort of “overlooking the very real geopolitical differences” is laughable.
The very real difference amount to that of the difference between Coke and Pepsi, Coles and Woolworths (Australian). It’s a business scam of apparent choice in a managed closed system.
COVID put an end to the (geo) politics bros it remains the greatest revelation of our times if not ever.

Antonym
Antonym
Feb 16, 2024 2:26 AM

Certain countries, such as China, India, Iran and Russia, have allegedly brought their oligarchs to book to reestablish politician-led governmental authority over their respective polities.

Alledgedly? Ask Jack Ma and others. Nationalism is back, outside the Anglo territory for now.

What we need is the benign cultural variety, not the egoistic military side and we will be good.

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Feb 16, 2024 9:50 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Ask the Princelings.

Antonym
Antonym
Feb 17, 2024 1:52 AM
Reply to  Iain Davis

They have all been check mated by Xi or they recently “died”.

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Feb 17, 2024 9:44 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Xi is a Princeling, as are people like Li Xiaolin and Wen Yunsong who I suspect may challenge your claim that the Princelings have become powerless. I am not saying they are the only oligarch clique in China, far from it. Seeing as the National Congress has possibly the highest proportion of billionairs in any legislature on Earth, I don’t think your point on Xi defeating the oligarchs is very well made. Btw, Jack Ma “disappeared” after he questioned “the old men of banking” by which he meant the BIS and their globalist cartel. It seems it was this criticism that was unacceptable in China. 

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 17, 2024 4:33 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

You dont criticize the hen with the biggest gold eggs. Naughty Jack Ma, how dare you.

Antonym
Antonym
Feb 17, 2024 2:39 PM
Reply to  Iain Davis

General Liu Yuan is the only powerful red princeling leftover by Xi Jinping.

For both CCP ideological power trumps oligarch money power.

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Feb 18, 2024 11:41 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Sure, let’s ignore all the others shall we? China’s ideological commitment to defeating oligarch influence probably explains why Xi’s administration licensed BlackRock to operated China’s first entirely foreign owned onshore investment brokerage, enabling billionaire Chinese oligarchs to invest globally in suitable ESG rated assets and securities.

Nicholas Creed
Nicholas Creed
Feb 16, 2024 2:20 AM

Very well articulated. All governments are following agenda 2030, but still compete for either power to lead or acquire economic market share, or if not a large economy or without a powerful military, those governments make more concessions to their UN / oligarch overlords, than other countries. E.g. Piloting CBDC in developing countries before developed countries. Where to push digital ID earlier and harder, where populations are more compliant and likely to adhere to freedoms being curtailed for banning ‘fossil fuels’, having low emission zones, pushing EV cars etc.

Antonym
Antonym
Feb 16, 2024 2:52 AM
Reply to  Nicholas Creed

China forexample is reducing carbon emission to net zero? Not at all.

Nicholas Creed
Nicholas Creed
Feb 16, 2024 3:20 AM
Reply to  Antonym

Exactly – they make concessions by pushing the social credit score system (the piloters), along with surveillance state technology. Perhaps they get a pass on the carbon emission policies, for now

Iain Davis
Iain Davis
Feb 16, 2024 9:54 AM
Reply to  Antonym

China intends to achieve net zero by 2060. China is stepping up use of fossil fuels but it is also constructing significant renewable energy capacity. This is how the scam works. You “offset” carbon emission not actually reduce them.

Antonym
Antonym
Feb 17, 2024 1:56 AM
Reply to  Iain Davis

You fall for CCP propaganda? Chinese EV production was ramped up to get the subsidies and dazzle foreigners only. In 2060 China will be 80% carbon based, 15% nuclear and 5 % unreliable.

Parts of the West might have reduced themselves to net zero economy under WEF woke influence.

mgeo
mgeo
Feb 17, 2024 6:17 AM
Reply to  Iain Davis

Some of its offset is/will be by way of reclaiming deserts and arid land. The core problem is the need to make and sell ever more goods.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 16, 2024 12:21 PM
Reply to  Antonym

Not to worry: ‘global warming’ is fake anyway.

Arraya
Arraya
Feb 15, 2024 11:52 PM

Yeah Bill Gates, Goldman Sachs, Pfizer, Raytheon, Bezos, etc.. Are not going ‘oh no, the MWO!!!! Nooooo! lol

brianborou
brianborou
Feb 15, 2024 11:37 PM

“… historical researchers like…and many more . It is as if history is no longer relevant.” G. Edward Griffin in his epic book, Jekyll island described the events over the 1913 Federal Reserve Act as did Eustace Mullins, in informative Secrets of the Federal Reserve. The Secrets of the Federal Reserve : Eustace Mullins : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive Both of these authors examined, amongst other points, who controlled the Federal Reserve and the power behind them. Well many roads led to Europe, predominately the City of London. The chief high priest of this grouping is the Rothschilds. F.W. Engdahl published an article a number of years which detailed a very sophisticated operation to destroy and dismember the Russian Federation ( an centuries long Western obssesion) when it was on its knees after it being economically raped by the Western central bankers. Putin, along with his… Read more »

Xavier Delacroix
Xavier Delacroix
Feb 15, 2024 11:33 PM

NWO New World Order comes from New Order of the Ages (novus ordo seclorum), which refers to the half a dozen ages commencing with Aquarius (just after The Great Reset). The NWO is thus mankind ‘building back better’.

Researcher
Researcher
Feb 17, 2024 6:01 AM

Coincidentally, I was reading that (novus ordo seclorum) the other day. From Virgil. Or more correctly translated; throw into disorder. In other words, Ordo ab Chao.

The NWO referred to in various speeches by political stooges, refers to the last reset not the upcoming one.

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 15, 2024 10:56 PM

The increasing rates of poverty, homelessness, malnutrition, drug addiction, depression, family violence and suicide in the Western world is proof enough that the oligarchs, and wannabe oligarchs, don’t give a damn.

Anything that impedes their obsessive trajectory of immeasurable wealth will be eliminated or crushed.

Nation states, NWOs, multipolarity, the UN, revolutionaries, non compliant governments, media agitators, protestors, recalcitrant academics and writers will be chewed up and excreted by the Avatars of avarice.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Feb 15, 2024 10:22 PM

The pillars [of oppression / total control ] did not originate with national governments. The pillars were mapped out by public-private globalist think tanks and international organisations that serve the interests of oligarchs (the “hidden hand”).

Governments do not control the global governance system. They are subject to it, just like the rest of us. The best they can achieve is “partner” status. And they are not senior partners.

That’s been my gut-felt understanding for a long time, too, even without the insight of this author.

Great, very clear-cut article for us non-geopolitical researchers.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Feb 16, 2024 12:25 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

The very BRICS acronym itself was — get this! — coined by a Wall Street analyst at Goldman Sachs!

https://qz.com/51000/goldman-analyst-jim-oneil-who-coined-brics-to-retire

Jerry Alatalo
Jerry Alatalo
Feb 15, 2024 10:14 PM

Identifying which nations on Earth qualify for membership in the “They’re all in it together” Club is a straightforward exercise: Share the following devastating, evidence-packed 82-page legal document – demanding Grand Jury investigation(s) into COVID-19/mRNA “vaccines” (bioweapons) global mass murder and crimes against humanity – with prosecutors in each nation on Earth.

Those nations whose prosecutors recognize the unprecedented danger and bring on immediate, deadly serious investigations do not qualify for membership in the “They’re all in it together” Club. Those nations whose prosecutors ignore the overwhelming evidence and do nothing most certainly belong to “The Club”.

Covid-19 Grand Jury Petition – National ARM

Paul Watson
Paul Watson
Feb 16, 2024 7:16 AM
Reply to  Jerry Alatalo

Problem is the the legal system is part of the corruption as well as the police force.
Pitch forks are the justice the tyrants fear the most, hence their little hideaways they are all building.