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The Rabbi’s Tear

Michael Lesher

Until very recently, I thought I could no longer be shocked by any news about Israel’s savagery against the trapped people of Gaza – or about my Orthodox Jewish community’s unrelenting support for each and every atrocity.

I had seen the shredded bodies of Palestinian children.

I had seen the bombed-out remains of Gaza’s last functioning hospitals and of the patients who had been killed inside them.

I had seen helpless Gazans murdered in cold blood by Israeli snipers when they tried to collect a bit of drinking water.

I had read about doctors forced to amputate limbs without anesthetic, about mothers unable to save their little ones from bombs or from disease, and about “religious” Israeli Jews deliberately blocking the trucks attempting to deliver a trickle of life-saving supplies into Gaza and literally dancing in the street when they succeeded.

But then I saw something that shook me even more deeply than all of this.

I saw a rabbi wipe a tear from his eye.

The rabbi belonged to the staunchly anti-Zionist religious group called Neturei Karta, and he was speaking to an interviewer about Israeli crimes and about how any genuinely religious Jew must repudiate them. Nothing surprising there. But as he was speaking, the interviewer shared with him a video of some of the recent carnage in which wounded Palestinian children were calling vainly for their murdered parents. And – yes – while taking in that horrible scene, the rabbi dabbed at a tear with the knuckles of one hand.

It was a perfectly natural gesture. And yet it jarred me – and at first I could not understand why.

But then I realized what had troubled me so much about that tear: throughout all the horrors of Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza, now nearly five months old, this was the first time that I had ever seen any Orthodox rabbi – or, for that matter, any of my Orthodox Jewish coreligionists – show the slightest sign of emotion over the suffering inflicted on Palestinians by the so-called Jewish State.

Oh, they could work themselves up into a faux passion over things that probably never happened: beheaded Israeli babies, gang-raped Israeli women. But confronted with undeniable evidence of real crimes committed against actual women and babies, every Orthodox rabbi who spoke publicly on the subject instantly shifted into apologist mode.

It was all the fault of Hamas for fighting back. The victims in the videos were probably exaggerating their injuries. War is war. And anyway, they’re only Palestinians, so what’s the big deal? For all the emotion they showed over Gaza’s harrowing human tragedies, the rabbis might have been a bunch of adding machines.

And that’s when they weren’t actively celebrating the slaughter.

Noach Isaac Oelbaum, a prominent New York rabbi, exulted recently to a large audience of Orthodox Jews that:“

the words of Torah are our weapons [against Gaza]. Every [page of Talmud we study] is a missile; every [comment of] Tosfos is a rocket; and every [chapter of Psalms we recite] is a bomb.”

No anti-Semite ever calumniated the Torah more succinctly, but Rabbi Oelbaum wasn’t alone in linking Judaism to crimes against humanity: the United Kingdom’s Chief Rabbi Ephraim Mirvis made a point of calling for extermination, saying that “Hamas [read: Gaza] cannot be allowed to continue to exist,” while in Israel, Rabbi Meir Mazuz’s public statement that Gazans are “animals” who deserve to be starved to death was so typical of the attitude of Orthodox Jews that it was barely noticed in the press.

Yes, there have been exceptions – Neturei Karta’s rabbis among them – and I honor them all. But apart from such outliers (who can practically be counted on the fingers of one hand), when was the last time you saw an Orthodox Jew show a trace of human emotion at the horrors being visited on helpless Palestinians? Forget about a sense of justice, or even a bit of remorse for having supported their oppressors. I’m talking about even less than that: the minimal evidence of a functioning human heart. Where is it? Orthodox Jews have recently been among the loudest voices insisting that Palestinians are somehow less than fully human, but the evidence of their own public behavior since October 7 suggests that it is “religious” Jews, not Palestinians, who have been so brutalized by a racist ideology that they are incapable of even simulating human feelings.

Nor is this brutality a flash in the pan.

Orthodox Jews have been among the ugliest in their reactions to Sunday’s self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell, an Air Force engineer who set himself aflame in front of the Israeli embassy in Washington as a protest against the U.S. military’s participation in the massacre of Palestinians. “I will no longer be complicit in genocide,” Bushnell said before burning himself to death, calling it “an extreme act of protest” but adding that “compared to what people have been experiencing in Palestine at the hands of their colonizers, it’s not extreme at all.”

The Orthodox-run Yeshiva World News dismissed Bushnell’s death as a product of mental illness, as did any number of Orthodox Jews via social media outlets. One S. Litvin, a Lubavitch rabbi claiming to speak “for Jews & Judaism,” used even more sadistic language, maintaining that Bushnell “killed himself in service to Hamas” and that anyone complaining about conditions in Gaza is guilty of a “Blood Libel.” As far as I can tell, not one Orthodox rabbi had the decency to acknowledge what everyone knows: that Joe Biden could easily have prevented Bushnell’s death by the simple expedient of saying “no” to Israel’s latest crimes against humanity – and that he might have done so if the spokesmen for “religious” Judaism had shown a sliver of moral honesty when it counted most. If it is insane to kill oneself in order to avoid being complicit in genocide, what should we call clergymen who cheerlead for the world’s most heinous crime and then slander a man who gives his life to protest what they should have denounced long ago? Wouldn’t “insanity” be too mild a word?

Of course, the rabbis’ inhumanity isn’t occurring in a vacuum. Earlier this month, Dara Horn, another American mouthpiece of Israeli propaganda, announced in the pages of The Atlantic that U.S. college students who have marched in protest against Israel’s slaughter in Gaza are really Nazis campaigning for the extermination of Jews. One wonders sometimes just how low it is possible for Israel’s apologists to sink – but I suppose when your natural posture is on your belly, licking the blood off IDF boots, you’re well beyond fastidiousness in the lies you’re willing to tell. Or to swallow.

But the question still haunts me: where are our tears – I mean especially those of the Orthodox, the Jews who pride ourselves on the moral exactitude of our religious disciplines – not only for the harrowing of Gaza, but over the proof of failure that stares us in the face from the community’s indifference to this most hideous of crimes?

It is said that during a Jewish holiday when it is customary to share words of Torah during the festive meal, Rabbi Yisrael of Rizhin instead looked around the table at his disciples and began to weep. Pressed for an explanation, he said that when a greater rabbi of an earlier time had shared his thoughts, his students had eagerly repeated the master’s teachings to one another as long as they could; but that when he looked into the eyes of his own disciples, he could only think of the words of Isaiah 3:9 – “the look of their countenance testifies against them.”

Rabbi Yisrael wept because he felt that his community was no longer worthy of its religious tradition. And he wept because he realized that if this was so, it followed that he had failed as a teacher.

Where does that leave us? What is wrong with today’s Orthodox Jews that renders us unable to shed a tear under circumstances infinitely darker than those of Rabbi Yisrael?

Why don’t we weep at the sight of a massacre of helpless children by a cruel and racist killing machine that purports to act in our name?

Why don’t we cry over the fact that our indifference to Palestinian suffering – indifference that grows more appalling with every passing day – proves that we have failed even to be human, let alone to be properly Jewish?

Let us not mince words. We Orthodox Jews have allowed traditional Judaism to degenerate to the level of a Nazi cult. And if we can’t cry over that, all I can say is that God may have other ways of bringing us to tears – and that if, one day not long from now, we find ourselves paying a price for our inhumanity, we will not be able to say that we didn’t deserve it.

Michael Lesher is an author, poet and lawyer whose legal work is mostly dedicated to issues connected with domestic abuse and child sexual abuse. His latest nonfiction book is Sexual Abuse, Shonda and Concealment in Orthodox Jewish Communities (McFarland & Co., 2014); his first collection of poetry, Surfaces, was published by The High Window in 2019. A memoir of his discovery of Orthodox Judaism as an adult – Turning Back: The Personal Journey of a “Born-Again” Jew – was published in September 2020 by Lincoln Square Books.

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Pavel
Pavel
Feb 29, 2024 9:14 PM

Thank you for writing this. A small oasis of reason in an ever darkening world of insanity. These things help.

Totalitarianism
Totalitarianism
Feb 29, 2024 8:16 PM

I’ve seen pure hate in people eyes when I couldn’t wear a mask.Not long ago saying I am unvaccinated would bring a demeanor of someone to bring pure violence towards me.Today I see that pure hate hope they fucking die type of violence on anyone who does not want to see more death over there.
remind some folks literally Not long ago this hate wanting death was towards the unvaccinated and non mask wearers and non believers of the 2 meter rule.
Today them again, tommorrow you.
.

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Mar 1, 2024 12:09 AM

Nearly four years ago, during those brutal lockdowns, I started saying: ‘We are all Palestinians now.’ Despite the way things appear at the moment, this statement remains true.

Graham Greene
Graham Greene
Mar 1, 2024 2:16 PM

Oh those (bastard) masked ones haven’t finished yet – not by a long shot. They are just taking a half-time breather. They’l be back, bet on it. Well I didn’t cave in last time and I am not going to do it again.

Gary Wilson
Gary Wilson
Feb 29, 2024 8:08 PM

Michael Lesher: You have my respect.

UncleWalrus
UncleWalrus
Feb 29, 2024 4:39 PM

Very well written, but lets not ignore that Hamas is on Israels leash and their leadership are probably living it up in Qatar, the whole Zionist thing is also highly a Chabbadnik venture, Regarding the young man that set himself on fire, someone “set themselves on fire outside of a consulate in Atlanta” back in December so this seems like an old hit, and why is all the footage of the young man burning all censored? I 100% oppose any genocide, but what is the end game here, is it propping up the UN? A thing to note is that all the “Arab nations” that “Oppose” this are only “Opposing it just enough” and it seems like they have all pledged their allegiance to the UN SDG’s, while doing business as usual, for example Turkey and Jordan are currently the two biggest exporters of produce to Israel I belive.Whats going… Read more »

Pig Swill
Pig Swill
Feb 29, 2024 8:44 PM
Reply to  UncleWalrus

What exactly is a nation though?

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 29, 2024 10:13 PM
Reply to  Pig Swill

A flag, a border, a belief a delusion.
We are Earthlings

underground poet
underground poet
Feb 29, 2024 10:35 PM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Money, resources, knowledge, these are the things that create a nation.

Nastran
Nastran
Mar 1, 2024 1:22 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Social structure next level up after the tribe.

Clutching at straws
Clutching at straws
Mar 1, 2024 9:21 AM
Reply to  Pig Swill

A “nation” is like a sports team at school.

If you’re lucky, you get picked to be on the popular boys side

Edwige
Edwige
Mar 1, 2024 10:24 AM

Looking forward to a world without nations?….

Nations are an essential firewall against worldwide totalitarianism.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Mar 1, 2024 12:34 PM
Reply to  Pig Swill

A common language.

Johnny Conspiranoid
Johnny Conspiranoid
Mar 1, 2024 8:24 PM
Reply to  Pig Swill

Two or more people declare that they are a nation. That doesn’t give them the right to someone else’s land. To say that you are being denied the right to be a nation because someone else denies you their land is like a homeless family saying they are being denied the right to be a family because someone else refuses to hand over their house.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Mar 2, 2024 8:32 PM

Its a 3000 year old story. https://youtu.be/aC3nUrJutsM .

Hamish Dawson
Hamish Dawson
Mar 4, 2024 3:55 AM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

The siege of Jerusalem was 1,950 years ago, but the story of Israel is a 3000-year-old story. As everyone knows, it’s a complex history – the Judeans go back longer than the Arabs, but from the 12th century, Arabs were a huge majority and the Jews a very small minority until immigration from the late 19th century when it started to become sizable. Unscrambling an egg when it comes to claims of nationhood in Palestine and unscrambling an egg to establish the extent to which the immigrant Jews had ancestral connections preceding those of the Arabs living in Palestine. Clearly, in recent years, most Israeli settlers either haven’t or can’t establish any ancestral connection to biblical Israel.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 3:46 PM
Reply to  UncleWalrus

“Whats going to happen to Gaza once they [Jewish Israelis] are done killing all those [Gentile Palestinian] people and drive the rest off?” I don’t believe that the Yahoo regime has enough time to kill 2 Million Palestinians in Gaza, becouse 5 months of nonstop bombingI has only managed to kill 100 thousand Palestinians (max). Neither do I believe that the Palestinians will be foolish enough to run away this time; not like they did in 1948. The people of Gaza are direct descendants of the refugees who ran away from the Israeli terror squads in 1948, and I believe that suffering has hardend the steel in their soul. Israel’s Zionazi regime is being “hoist on its own petard”.. There will be a Palestinian state and the Jewish state will have to pay it compensation for Loss of Life and Property by Palestine and the Palestinian diaspora. Just like Germany… Read more »

KarenEliot
KarenEliot
Mar 1, 2024 4:15 PM
Reply to  UncleWalrus

The footage of Aaron Bushnell is blurred at the request of his family and out of respect for their loss. The original footage is horrific but I am sure if you are that curious you will find it

John Steppling
John Steppling
Apr 27, 2024 7:24 PM
Reply to  UncleWalrus

hamas is on isreal’s leash. Another way to remove arab agency. All resistance movements have connections of some sort to the colonizer. The arab ruling class, as seen in Jordan and Egypt, have been corrupt for a hundred and fifty years. Not news. Go back and read or listen to the PFLP-

Kristofer
Kristofer
Mar 19, 2024 3:35 AM

As an American I admit to being shocked at the bloodthirsty vengeance American non jews demand for something that happened 5 thousand miles away in a foreign land. All these months later, and they are still cheering it on. You cannot fake the gaunt faces of malnourished children, but my fellow Americans seem excited over it. I honestly don’t know what to make of it. This article at least helps me understand others are feeling the same b out the attitudes of their people. I can’t apologize for others, but I will at least note how disgusted I am with my own country supporting these massive atrocities.

Craig Weisman
Craig Weisman
Mar 12, 2024 3:19 AM

All glory be to God alone, Michael, for that is heartfelt truth. I know that it is only a matter of time before our Creator, Lord Jesus Christ/Yeshua, will remove the stumbling-block spoken of in His Word: Isaiah 57:14 KJV “And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumbling-block out of the way of my people.” And then the long awaited prophetic promise God Almighty made to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will occur within those particular members of God’s chosen for that particular time period. 12 thousand from each of the 12 tribes will be circumcised of the heart by our Creator to become a holy priesthood of the new everlasting covenant (during the times of Jacob’s Trouble): Jeremiah 30:7-9 KJV “Alas, for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble, but he… Read more »

Nazarene
Nazarene
Mar 9, 2024 7:38 PM

If you’re not one of them, and you won’t bow down and submit to their “authority”, then you are “Amalek”.

I see lots of people that prefer to not be “Amalek”, but still; too many slaves is bad business, and they’re still a part of the (ongoing) cull.

The conditioning and programing and black magic spells have turned the humans into a different species, a species that conforms to the “superior one’s” idea of the “unclean” and “inferior” ones that makes up the majority of the population in this world.

Yeah, none of them “know what they’re doing or what they’ve done”, because they’re insane…the world is an insane asylum ruled by Deceit.(go figure…).

The only Way out is The Truth. It might not be what you think…and don’t expect it to conform to your “ego’s” image or demands…It won’t…It can’t. It IS What It IS.

Nazarene
Nazarene
Mar 9, 2024 5:26 AM

I don’t believe what they say. If they tell the truth it’s only by accident, or to cover for a bigger lie…like trying to convince their target they have credibility, so they can later stab them in the back…for a larger profit.

Don’t believe anything they say. Especially about “history”, talk about exaggerations and embellishments, and inversions, that’s their special “talent”.

The devil will indeed tell on itself if it serves it’s larger agenda.

Anoush
Anoush
Mar 6, 2024 11:47 PM

I believe Off-Guardian should note this is a MASTERPIECE of an essay and should be circulating all over the world. I sent this to my Jewish and non-Jewish friends and they were equally moved by such powerful words (and bleeding humanity across the lines).
I was moved to tears. Honestly.
The author encapsulates everything I have been feeling – between incomprehensible animosity towards the Jewish people (which I learned to admire), and the blatant disgust I feel for the Jewish State.
About time someone to give words for people who are in the same limbo as I am.
I will print and keep this piece of journalism with me.
And more likely to translate to my own website (no permission needed, because this was meant to be shared).
PS> I am not an “Islamist” (whatever it means). I am a Brazilian and an Anarchist Priest.

paul diffenderfer
paul diffenderfer
Mar 3, 2024 4:42 PM

Sir, for every 1 Zionist Jew there are 10 or more Zionist Christians, but not only that, they do not get the stigma of Israel – they are instigators of these crimes more than 10-fold. The Shoa is a historical reality that these Zionist Christians also do not have haunting them, as Jews do. I was raised in a Zionist Christian home, and I know the blame goes more on Christians than Jews. I still have hope that the Jews can escape total moral destruction, but the Christians? They have no risks, no fears, no costs in the fight, they have only a fanatical lust to satisfy. Shame on those who do nothing real to help the Palestinians return to safety and dignity and help the Israelis to escape their totalitarian state and its lies and crimes. God bless and protect you forever for your efforts Sir. God bless you… Read more »

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Mar 2, 2024 5:28 PM

The joys of multiculturalism eh?

Lost in a dark wood
Lost in a dark wood
Mar 2, 2024 5:28 AM

Unless the main pillars of power are challenged, it’s all just empty posturing. Those pillars include:

A. The putative and weaponized victimhood.
B. Ownership and control of the Dark Satanic Mills; i.e. media, universities, organised religion, think tanks, etc.
C. Threats and coercion against individuals and nations; e.g. Epstein files and critical infrastructure backdoors and kill-switches.

Hamish Dawson
Hamish Dawson
Mar 4, 2024 4:07 AM

The process of making a serious challenge, if it happens at all, could take several generations as this old-world order has been in place for millennia. I wouldn’t expect to see much of a threat to this order in our lifetimes unless there is a seismic shift geo-politically, culturally and spiritually.

NickM
NickM
Mar 2, 2024 5:23 AM

5 Reasons to thank Nathan Yahoo

https://youtu.be/PMa-0MAXndc?si=39XdkTbqGr4Xhq4y

The Yahoo has done more than all the apostles of tolerance to combat Islamophobia and further the State of Palestine. Same as Hitler did more than any other man to combat Judeophobia and promote the State of Israel.

paul diffenderfer
paul diffenderfer
Mar 3, 2024 5:17 PM
Reply to  NickM

almost beyond irony, but good point you made. hope that we get to the backlash against Yahoo ASAP

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Mar 1, 2024 4:44 PM

“To save a human life is a fundamental Jewish value. Today we honor Dr. Bourla – a living embodiment of this ancient Jewish principle.” ~ Founder and Chairman of The Genesis Prize Foundation, Stan Polovets (The CEO of Pfizer, Albert Bourla, was given the $1M Genesis Prize in 2022) If any organization justifies the exemption from reason, the persecution or death of others or the superiority of one ideology or culture over another, then it is manipulative, soul-numbing indoctrination. Helen44Yemen says: “I will keep telling you that Zionism and Judaism are one and the same unless anyone can come forward and tell me what the difference is. Open up the holy book of the Jews and search for: force out, drive out. The Jews are told in their holy book to kill men, women and children – and even the donkeys. Deuteronomy 7:2 the Lord will force them out of… Read more »

Human values
Human values
Mar 1, 2024 9:12 PM
Reply to  Straight Talk

The first thing to know about mythology is, it is mythology. It’s about myths. Now, what are those? Symbolic presentations of some other things that can’t be expressed except symbolically. Metaphors, allegories, stories of wisdom, courage, consciousness and God. Mythology is not stories about some people in some place and time in history. To even think about mythology in such a twisted manner only shows what a donkey or a demon would do. So it’s not wise and it’s not right. Many myths are universal, having occurred in a written form, when the art of scripture has been made, after centuries or millennia of oral folklore, which has always contained cosmological stories. And why are these stories so similar to each other? It is because they say the same things. All wisdom literature is about God and man. They talk about You and the Truth. And their relationship. Now, what… Read more »

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Mar 2, 2024 6:38 PM
Reply to  Human values

Brilliant brilliant brilliant, I couldnt have said that better. Because this is precisely what it is about. Universal symbolic wisdom and messages which can only be understood by heart, spirit and soul.

Grafter
Grafter
Mar 4, 2024 4:06 PM
Reply to  Straight Talk

Some really demented f*krs writing in the Bible there.

Jin_Tonic
Jin_Tonic
Mar 1, 2024 3:33 PM

The world without the control mechanism called religion would be a better world.

Jin_Tonic
Jin_Tonic
Mar 1, 2024 3:30 PM

They’ve been building up for a while. 2022 and in 2023

They did a complete re-branding and new working of Netanyahu and his new friendly government.

Internet algorithm Shill Jorden peterson interviews helped achieve that with interviews
that where so scripted/fake it made MSM look good.

“The J*ws have taken the land and made something of it.” Jordan Peterson interviews Benjamin Netanyahu

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Jin_Tonic
Jin_Tonic
Mar 1, 2024 3:31 PM
Reply to  Jin_Tonic

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Shmevoskj
Shmevoskj
Mar 1, 2024 2:02 PM

RE: “Orthodox Jews have been among the ugliest in their reactions to Sunday’s self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell … The Orthodox-run Yeshiva World News dismissed Bushnell’s death as a product of mental illness” These Jewish reactions are pure damage control, just like many reactions from other non-Jews, of the implication of some of Aaron’s last statements… What Bushnell’s desperate act exposes is that some 95-99% of people anywhere DO NOTHING when confronted with grave injustices such as the current US-Israeli Holocaust of the Palestinians, just like all the “bad German people” during the Nazi Holocaust, whom they are happily pointing the finger to as examples of OTHER PEOPLE who are bad and evil in their deep dishonesty, self-delusion, and madness. He pointed exactly this reality out in one of last statements: “Many of us like to ask ourselves, ‘What would I do if I was alive during slavery? Or the Jim… Read more »

Anoush
Anoush
Mar 6, 2024 11:59 PM
Reply to  Shmevoskj

Soullessness Spectrum Disorder.
Exactly!

Victor G.
Victor G.
Mar 1, 2024 1:34 PM

Thank you for this piece, Michael Lesher. You don’t seem to provide any ideas as to how to resolve the issue. That is unless you think Orthodox Jews will finally be able to shed more than one tear and begin to wash away the blood that drips from your hands. I’m sure I will be misunderstood and condemned for the following radical idea.  You, sir, can begin a movement that encourages your people to voluntarily repatriate to your ancestral, denazified homelands; Poland, Russia, Germany, Lithuania, Ukrainia (getting there), etc. you could even invoke the “right to return”, which in your specific case is sure to be instantly recognized. You can vigorously encourage all your offspring born in Palestine to join you. You will return not as the desperate refugees you left as but as well-off individuals who can actively contribute to the progress and prosperity of your ancestral homelands. Folks… Read more »

Edwige
Edwige
Mar 1, 2024 11:15 AM

The leading Zionists always intended to expel the Palestinians. This was not just the idea of “far-right extremist” Zionists like Jabotinsky nor a reaction to WW2 – it was mainstream Zionist opinion in the 1930s and before. Zionists started off regarding Palestine as “a country without a people” in Weizmann’s infamous phrase then, when forced to notice that people called Palestinians lived there, came up with the concept of “transfer” to get rid of them. The biggest deception was that “transfer” would be “voluntary” and “by agreement” – they meant by agreement with other governments (often either cash-strapped or British-imposed stooges) and not the people being moved. Ben-Gurion expressed the mindset in 1929 when he stated “Jerusalem is not the same thing to the Arabs as it is to the Jews. The Arab people inhabits many great lands.” Palestinians were rolled into an Arab identity and so being expelled from… Read more »

Victor G.
Victor G.
Mar 1, 2024 11:54 AM
Reply to  Edwige

Thank you, Edwige.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 4:30 PM
Reply to  Edwige

“One keeps finding this strange connecton between Zionism and the British establishment.”

Like in:

“I shall not cease from mental strife,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand,
Till I have built Jerusalem
In England’s green and pleasant land” — Wm.Blake.

It goes right back to the Messiah (Hebrew, oiled) being a Jew before he became the Christ (Greek Christos, anointed).

The “Three Peoples of the Book” (Jews, Christians and Muslims) remind me of the greatest medical discovery of the 20th century — Penicillin:

“How does it feel to have won the Nobel Prize, Dr.Fleming?”
“It’s alright except I have to share it with those other two buggers”.

Tom T
Tom T
Mar 1, 2024 9:23 AM

Many Jews and orthodox groups around the world are anti-Zionists and see Israel as the antithesis of Judaism. They condemn it outright.

Last week’s speech by Prof Ralph Wilde at the ICJ, on behalf of the Arab League, was a masterclass in dismantling the past 100 years of lies about the creation of Israel. Not only was its inception illegal and against international law, its biblical claims to that land in law are void.

Zionists use religion and ethnicity only when it suits them. If they all had a gene test tomorrow they’d realise that most of their bloodlines didn’t actually derive from Palestine in the first place.

This whole mess surrounding Israel was created by Britain, France and the US. The UK’s hand still plays its ugly hand. No wonder we’re not taught out history here in Blighty. It’s an effing disgrace.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Mar 1, 2024 7:30 AM

To Sam Admin.

I just posted on this thread and my comment has gone into pending. It is also out of synch and has been placed pending further down the comment list – not as the newest.

Also, yesterday on a different thread a comment of mine went into pending and has not appeared at all.

Thanks.

Howard
Howard
Mar 1, 2024 3:57 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

If you’re not careful – i.e., if you get on the wrong side of one of the Admins – you will end up shadow banned from this forum, as I was many months ago.

BTW, I’m replying to your comment to try and determine if perhaps you’re not already being shadow banned.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Mar 1, 2024 5:37 PM
Reply to  Howard

Thanks for the heads up. I doubt I have been shadow banned since I have only been commenting for less than a week! That could be a record. 😂

A couple of comments have disappeared entirely. A WordPress thing perhaps? A couple of others that went into pending were released.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Mar 2, 2024 6:29 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

To your info, all my comments are always pending.
Actually I find it comfortable that someone evaluate the bs I write before it enter into public space  😆 .

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Mar 1, 2024 7:22 AM

In all the ‘noise’ surrounding the Gaza situation, I haven’t seen anyone addressing the question of why Israel is damaging its public relations status and by default that of Jewish people in general? Since WWII they have always managed to maintain a positive PR image despite previous UN resolutions, condemnations etc. Something has changed since October 2023. Has this been part of a plan from the controllers? Perhaps, the plan is to foment anti-semitism and thereby encourage Orthodox Jews to relocate to Israel. This would make sense if Israeli secular Jews had taken the cull juice in higher numbers than the Orthodox (many who refused it). In the opposite direction Russia has made it known it would welcome more Jews to return to Russia from Israel and the West where they emigrated to previously. Additionally, perhaps the ideal is that Israelis need to be brought into line as part of… Read more »

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Mar 1, 2024 12:38 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Recall Kissinger’s “Israel is not there in 10 years”.

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Mar 1, 2024 8:30 PM
Reply to  Erik Nielsen

Yes, I remember that well. I think he said it in 2012.

There is always Ukraine where it can be relocated too – part of the old Khazaria.

The Chinese Belt and Road Initiative has Israel at its heart, the crossroads along the Eurasian trade route. China has heavily invested in Israel, Haifa port being a good example.

Of course, there is nothing to say that this would change the BRI with regards to what is currently Israel, it just means that in the future it may not be populated by Israelis.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Mar 2, 2024 6:23 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Yeah, I analyse it to something like that too. Nasrallah has urged ordinary Israelis to leave Israel before its too late.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 4:51 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

“Something has changed since October 2023. Has this been part of a plan from the controllers?”

No: the something that changed was outside the control of the wouldbe controllers.

“There was a stone in the middle of the road.
In the middle of the road there was a stone” — Carlos de Andrade.

The stone was Syria.

Syria did not fold under assault by NATZO and NATZO’s half-million strong ISIS mercenaries. This rock formed the base upon which Hezb’Allah, Iran, Russia and Iraq were able to build a stable alliance, which came to be known as The Axis of Resistance.

Then BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) became a world force, Iran and Saudi Arabia — the Jewels in our Crown of Oil — joined BRICS, and our wouldbe “controllers” lost control of the Middle East. .

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Mar 1, 2024 8:50 PM
Reply to  NickM

The controllers don’t differentiate between nation states.The BRICS nations are subject to the same (private) Central Bank and supranational control as Western nations. The term BRICS was coined by Goldman Sachs. Arch globalist Henry Kissinger opened up China to the globalists and banking interests. He also maintained very cordial relations with Putin even up until his death recently. BRICS nations are following the UN Agenda 21 and Agenda 2030. They are all members of the UN and WHO. All are developing Central Bank Digital Currencies, and digital ID’s. Mass surveillance and lock step actions during the Plandemic with dangerous jabs pushed into their populations arms show that they are being directed by supranational powers and not acting in the best interest of their citizens. It is my view that controllers are merely shifting operations eastwards and in the process will asset strip the West on the way out of the… Read more »

NixonScraypes
NixonScraypes
Mar 2, 2024 5:35 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

Of course, who uses brics? Masons. Thanks, I hadn’t seen it before.

NickM
NickM
Mar 3, 2024 3:36 PM
Reply to  Rolling Rock

True. Nevertheless the resilience of Syria, Iran and Russia shows that control is shifting away from Anglo Zio countries and away from Anglo Zio people. I sometimes wonder how many Chinese bankers are Jews. And I wonder what will happen to U$ & UK investments in Ukraine when that country rejoins Russia.

Tom
Tom
Mar 1, 2024 7:20 AM

At the end, it’s a religious war. Please study why Islam wants Jerusalem in the first place.

The Israelis are no angels, but neither are the Palestinians, a majority whom think the paedophile profit was the perfect man.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 11:05 AM
Reply to  Tom

Misleading. This 21st century Crusade is not a religious war but an Anglo Zionazi Capitalist crusade to control the oil wealth of the Middle East. These three regimes U$A, UK and Israel, all with strong ties to The City in London, follow the Money, not the Cross.

Nor do they follow the Shield of David. NetanYahoo has been trying for 20 years to force Gaza to sign their petrogaz rights to his company (Genie Energy, partly owned by the Yahoo’s accomplices from 911: Dick Cheney and Richard Murdoch, with the late Lord Rothschild very much in the background).

Kate
Kate
Mar 12, 2024 2:30 PM
Reply to  Tom

The Jews, Islam and Christians are all expecting the Messiah to arrive soon. Jews rejected Yahshua, Islam consider him to have been a prophet, and Christians don’t believe he returned in the clouds to gather his elect from the world, even though it was prophesied to happen in that generation Matt 24:30 – 35. All of these religions will accept Satan as Messiah when he is released as prophesied in Rev 20: 7 – 10.

niko
niko
Mar 1, 2024 6:52 AM

Compassion means to suffer with. Its material reality is more than sentiment. Combined with anger at injustice, it becomes common sense of revolt among people sharing solidarity with oppressed and resistance to oppressors, especially on our own sides of divides drawn by ruling powers. Tears will be lost in the floods of blood made by our masters if we fail to fight our true enemies.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 6:03 AM

‘Gaza George’ Galloway washes away his past – and almost two decades of Liebour rule.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/03/01/gorgeous-george-galloway-mp-rochdale-left-wing-profile/

Not only ‘Gaza’ George but also ‘Baghdad’ Galloway. Expelled from TB.Liar’s New Liebour Party for decent behaviour, Gorgeous George returns to his old job of cleaning the Westminster Stables.

“If by some administrative cockup in Heaven,
A good man were to arrive in Hell,
Would he by example make a Heaven of Hell?” — George Muir, with apologies..

Elongated Muskrat
Elongated Muskrat
Mar 1, 2024 6:02 AM

Well, the Israelis can stop whining about being victims now. By their actions in Gaza they justify what the Nazis did to the Jews during WWII…it’s the same crime.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 2:56 PM

Two wrongs do not make a right. No matter what ethnic group commits it, Genocide is a crime against Humanity, a sin against Christ the Saviour and blasphemy against Allah the Merciful.

Big Al
Big Al
Mar 1, 2024 4:07 AM

I don’t know, all I can think of is, “Cry me a river, man”. I mean, you know, it’s been what, over 70 years of this shit from them. This iteration anyway.

Big Al
Big Al
Mar 2, 2024 5:01 AM
Reply to  Big Al

I’m surprised at the suck up to this crap. But then again, not. The jews are not special, man. This reminds me of those on this site that rail against Americans for their country trying to control the world, wage wars all over, etc. What if I posted something showing a weeping pastor in Iowa who just fucking realized his government was whacked. Ya, different story. This kind of shit perpetuates the stupid idea that jews are different.

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 29, 2024 10:43 PM

A weeping Rabbi is a nice image. As would be a weeping Hamas leader; shedding a few tears and demonstrating a grain of human empathy over Israeli lives lost in October. Unfortunately, that’s a little more difficult to envisage. Hence the Rabbi should also weep over human sufferings at the Israeli October Nova Festival. Or are tears only reserved for Palestinians in Gaza? If we demand compassion from the ‘enemy’ then we should be ready to give some ourselves. So it appears that Justice will be meted out and will run its course. The Israel-hating Hamas will be wiped out, at least as the Gaza Strip is concerned. And good riddance to it. To minimise human suffering, the best thing to do would be to simply let that happen as cleanly and as efficiently as possible. Then the need for weeping will be minimised. But yes, weep for Bushnell too.… Read more »

Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
Mar 1, 2024 2:03 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Many of the murdered Israeli’s on October 7th, and afterwards, were killed by their own IDF. Let’s hope all those murderous soldiers will shed some tears for the Israeli’s they murdered.

mgeo
mgeo
Mar 1, 2024 5:56 AM
Reply to  Gordon McRae

IDF even managed to kill (at least) 2 hostages in Gaza. Maybe more died as it flooded the tunnels.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Mar 1, 2024 2:16 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

To everybody: I dropped a tear yesterday. I too was weeping. Why?
Because I am one of the good guys, always doing good. A nice guy. In contradiction to all the other fokkers on this planet and in this comment section here
I dropped a tear, was emotional and showed my feelings! True feelings.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 6:50 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

“As would be a weeping Hamas leader; shedding a few tears and demonstrating a grain of human empathy over Israeli lives lost in October.” These Israelis and Israel Festival groupies lost their lives because they had no right to be in Gaza. Half of them were shot up by their own trigger happy IDF. By pre-empting military force to occupy Gaza and the West Bank since 1948, Israel has placed itself squarely outside of International Law. It has no Right of Defense against Palestinian Resistance. The best thing Israelis can do right now is to return to official 1948 borders and prepare to negotiate compensation. Because, having moved inexorably over the past 70 years from Apart-Hate to Genocide, Israel like Germany after the Nazi regime, will have to pay compensation for systematic slaughter of civilians and destruction of civil buildings which Israel is currently inflicting on the Gentile population of… Read more »

brian of nazareth
brian of nazareth
Mar 1, 2024 7:18 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Were Rachel Corrie and Tom Hurndall mentally ill as well then, in your assessment?
War is terrorism with a bigger budget and a veneer of legitimacy.

Victor G.
Victor G.
Mar 1, 2024 12:44 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

Very eloquent but you really should explain how anti-USofAs or anti-Zionist propaganda could be “excessive”, ever.

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Mar 1, 2024 5:06 PM
Reply to  Vagabard

A Profound Act Of Sincerity
“One of the main reasons the self-immolation of Aaron Bushnell is having such an earthshaking impact on our society is because it’s the single most profound act of sincerity that any of us have ever witnessed.”

David
David
Feb 29, 2024 10:41 PM

I’m just totally disheartened deflated. Totally lost and powerless it’s getting to me

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Mar 1, 2024 2:09 AM
Reply to  David

Pray and seek mercy from him above.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Feb 29, 2024 10:38 PM

I wouldn’t say that Aaron Bushnell’s self immolation was an act of mental illness … but I’ve thought for the longest time that the Israeli Jews I’ve read about or heard their words verbatim or saw their behaviours on video with my own eyes surely were either severely intellectually retarded or they themselves had been abused and tortured growing up, leading to their mental illness expressed in their monstrous deeds today. Our international “rules based” (what a sick joke) community needs to step in and do what needs doing to the Israelis. But, instead, Israel is now callously advertising newly cleared beach frontage to international investors and British PM Rishi Sunak’s father had already done a major deal with the Israelis over the new-to-be-built shipping canal before the ethnic cleansing even started. Not to mention the exploration studies done years ago about the vast oil and gas reserves under the… Read more »

Big Al
Big Al
Mar 1, 2024 4:15 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

Ya, but they still got a lot of money and own a lot of shit. Kind of like Trump, they get away with it because of the fear they create with their power.

mgeo
mgeo
Mar 1, 2024 6:01 AM
Reply to  Veri Tas

On the positive side, the scales have fallen off from the eyes of some of the legions of zombies. But how long before all this is rewritten, and we are back to accusations of anti-“Semitism” – the special word to distinguish it from ordinary racism?

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 11:35 AM
Reply to  mgeo

Before Hitler and the Nazis came along to discredit the practice, anti-Jewish feeling was rife in Europe, both Americas and their colonies. I remember that clearly both from jokes and adult conversation in my Gentile childhood, and from subsequent reading of English Literature at school. Postwar revelations of the consequences of ethnic prejudice, first from the Liberation of Auschwitz by the Soviet Army, then from the Allied Liberation of Belsen, stirred up a worldwide revulsion against Ethnic Hatred, and sympathy for the cause of National Liberation. This resulted in Colonial Liberation and the dismantling of Apart-Hate in the U$A and South Africa. This wave of Ethnic Tolerance has not yet been exhausted — except by Israel through its misguided policyy of Apart-Hate leading inexorably to Genocide. As a Christian Zionist I celebrated Israel’s War of Independence in 1948, and its success in gaining Old Jerusalem in the Six Day War.… Read more »

lobby ludd
lobby ludd
Mar 15, 2024 12:42 PM
Reply to  NickM

The Real Left?
Anthony Crosland?
That Crosland?
Right.

Stürmisch anhaltend bewegt….veillons aux nuages d’antan.

How happy happy we, were one or t’other quite starmerised.

Straight Talk
Straight Talk
Mar 1, 2024 5:16 PM
Reply to  Veri Tas

We’ve all been born into one hell of a cult-indoctrinated world. People are breaking free, one by one the scales are falling from our eyes. So many veils are being lifted today, about our propagandistic media, education/history, the monetized medical industry, encrusted religious dogma, neoliberal economic models, climate alarmism. I’ve never read the Bible, but it truly is a revelatory time.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Mar 1, 2024 10:24 PM
Reply to  Straight Talk

Is seeing what’s going on enough though? Will things ever change, will the scales ever tip towards liberty and justice?

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Feb 29, 2024 10:06 PM

“Oh, they could work themselves up into a faux passion over things that probably never happened: beheaded Israeli babies, gang-raped Israeli women. But confronted with undeniable evidence of real crimes committed against actual women and babies, every Orthodox rabbi who spoke publicly on the subject instantly shifted into apologist mode.”

I made the mistake today of watching one hour of MSNBC Morning Joe’s “spook show.” Mika asked Donnie Deutschbag if Netanyahu has some responsibility for the violence committed against innocent civilians in Gaza, and Deutschbag callously said: “Everyone should see the Israeli video showing how babies were beheaded and women were raped…”

A video doctored to concoct a demented narrative giving justification for the barbaric
slaughtering of Palestinians.

Howard
Howard
Mar 1, 2024 4:05 PM
Reply to  Charlotte Ruse

The 40 beheaded phantom babies were, as The Grayzone pointed out months ago, the exclusive creation of one Youssi Landau of ZAKA. Even Israel’s Social Security Agency identified only one baby killed on October 7th – his name was Mila Cohen.

No one outside the US buys that fiction any longer.

Charlotte Ruse
Charlotte Ruse
Mar 1, 2024 4:42 PM
Reply to  Howard

The idiot Donnie Deutschbag reappeared today on MSNBC and doubled-down on his bullshit propaganda. US news TV can say any lie they want as long as it supports the official security state narrative.

Johnny
Johnny
Feb 29, 2024 10:00 PM

Why are we Jewish, or Christians, or Muslims, or Hindus, or Buddhists, or Capitalists, or Communists, or Socialists, or atheists, for that matter ?

Because we believe.

We believe without KNOWING.
We believe because we were born into a family of that particular religion or sect.
We believe because some ancient book of words lays it all out in a simple, easy to understand, storytelling rhetoric.
We believe because it’s expedient and convenient.
We believe because we meet and socialise with other ‘good’ people of the same beliefs.
Or, we don’t believe because we think science has all the answers.

For God’s (THE Life in each of us) sake, stop believing and start KNOWING: Life, Love and Truth.

Pardon the pun, but it’s not fucking rocket science.

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Mar 1, 2024 2:04 AM
Reply to  Johnny

Precisely, we have as men a duty to acquaint ourselves with how our universe, our earth and our society function, and on our obligations and role here.

Only a sissy is walking around with loose hand and say: “I believe,….in my rights and my faith”.

Tom Larsen
Tom Larsen
Mar 2, 2024 3:36 PM
Reply to  Johnny

Gnosis?

les online
les online
Feb 29, 2024 9:31 PM

The Promised Land…
So much slaughter because God made a promise
to certain people…
So much slaughter because of God’s IOU…

Howard
Howard
Mar 1, 2024 4:14 PM
Reply to  les online

God gave the Levant to a different people every time He changed His name. As Baal, He gave it to the Phoenicians. As Marduk, He gave it to the Babylonians. As Assur, He gave it to the Assyrians. As Amon Ra, He gave it to the Egyptians. As Allah, He gave it to the Arabs. As Yahweh, He gave it to the Israelites.

You pays your money and you takes your choice.

Dr. van Nostrand MD PhD D
Dr. van Nostrand MD PhD D
Feb 29, 2024 9:28 PM

Nice tug at my heart strings, but the events of the last 4 years have stripped many of us of our patience, desire to talk certain things out, and even our humanity. The people Israel are fighting don’t care that Hasidim are anti-Israel, or that you’re waiting for the Messiah, etc. They would slit your throat just for being a Jew.

Wake up, they are not your friends, or anybody’s.

Funny how we measure atrocity these days, from the perspective of Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Tokyo, Dresden, Laos, N. and S. VietNam all behind us, all swept under the rug of amnesia. There’s 3 million corpses right there, my friend.

Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
Mar 1, 2024 2:10 AM

The international court of justice is doing a very nice job of outlining the illegality of the state of Israel’s occupation of Palestine. Time is not going to be kind to the criminal state of Israel.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 6:59 AM
Reply to  Gordon McRae

“Time is not going to be kind to the criminal state of Israel.”

Time was kind to post-Genocide Germany, and I hope it will be kind to Genocide Israel. But Israel will have to pay compensation to Palestine and to the Palestinians, same as Germany had to pay compensation to Israel and to the Jews.

Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
Mar 1, 2024 5:00 PM
Reply to  NickM

That’s a thoughtful purview of the likely future of Israel. I certainly hope it includes some of their leaders being hung as the nazi leaders were. On the other hand little Israel in the middle east is not Germany with it’s long history in Europe.

forceOfHabit
forceOfHabit
Feb 29, 2024 9:17 PM

Articles like this are why I am anti-Zionist not anti-Jewish.

gorden
gorden
Feb 29, 2024 9:14 PM

is not real it never was valid it was always a rotten shield con.
a counterfeit a satanic trick.

“there is no Zionism, colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands.” – Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972

“We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?’ Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said ‘Drive them out!'”
– Yitzhak Rabin, 23 October 1979

arab League address World Court on consequences of Israel’s occupation
https://invidious.fdn.fr/watch?v=fRn4qYAORAE

Guy St Hilaire
Guy St Hilaire
Feb 29, 2024 8:15 PM

Because I have Jewish and Muslim friends ,as a Christian ,I struggle to understand the position of many of the born again Christian evangelical people that support any and all forms of harm ,nay the criminality ,presently happening in Gaza today towards their fellow human brothers and sisters .They are the reasons why the United States gov.refuse to call for the killings to stop .The votes of the widely held view of their electorate .
The audacity of calling themselves Christian ,so steadfastly tied to the Scofield Bible, that has so corrupted the Word . I also shed tears in the hope of a free Palestine in the Holy Lands .

Vagabard
Vagabard
Feb 29, 2024 11:03 PM
Reply to  Guy St Hilaire

Perhaps zoom out to see the bigger picture. To try and understand the times we live in. The broader scheme of things

Perhaps these events are happening for rooting out of historic anti-Semitism from the Church, which came in post Constantine the Great and was never dealt with during the Reformation

Jenner
Jenner
Mar 1, 2024 1:54 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

You clearly have no notion of Laurent Guyenot or Michael Hoffmann and have never read a line of Israel Shahak.

Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
Mar 1, 2024 2:15 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

You can zoom out as far as you want it won’t change the absolute evil of the current Israeli govt. and all its’ supporters.

Carlyle Moulton
Carlyle Moulton
Mar 1, 2024 6:53 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Hatred of Jews didn’t enter into The Christ Cult post Constantine The Great, it was there from the beginning. The gospel writers were Roman citizens and wanted Rome to think of them as “Good Romans” so they had a secondary agenda to convince the Roman Powers That Be that they were not blaming Rome for killing God. . To exculpate Rome they defamed the Jews and this calumny has resulted in 18 centuries of pogroms culminating in the Nazi Holocaust. I think that the Nazis were not necessarily themselves haters of Jews although being members of “The Christ Cult” some certainly were but they were exploiting prejudice against despised minorities for political purposes. Scapegoating is a tactic that works again and again and again. . As for the Protestant “Fetus Fetish Cult” in the US, they believe their desired End Times and rapture to heaven cannot occur until the Jews… Read more »

mgeo
mgeo
Mar 2, 2024 4:30 AM

The Hasbara rides again.. and again.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 7:03 AM
Reply to  Vagabard

Give it up, it’s a lost cause. Anti-Jewish feeling arose because the ancient Jews were the first Nazis and the Old Testament was their Mein Kampf.

“When you conquer the Land which I have promised you, then you must kill even the baby boy in his cradle” — Old Testament

SeamusPadraig
SeamusPadraig
Mar 1, 2024 1:08 AM
Reply to  Guy St Hilaire

The idea that the Rapture-Zionists in the US — as repulsive as they may be — effectively control US mid-east policy is a big myth. For openers, they all (nearly 100% of them) vote Republican, yet no matter who’s in control of the US Govt. at the moment, Israel always gets what it wants regardless. Witness the current subservience of the Biden Junta towards our ‘special friend‘ in the Middle East. Is Joe Biden or his supporters (yes, they exist) a Rapture-Zionist? Hardly. Heck, he probably won more votes from ‘Black Hebrew Israelites’ than from Rapture-Christians!

Rolling Rock
Rolling Rock
Mar 1, 2024 6:57 AM
Reply to  SeamusPadraig

“Heck, he probably won more votes from ‘Black Hebrew Israelites’ than from Rapture-Christians!”

In fairness everyone got to cast a vote for Joe. Dead or alive.

I am sure there were even votes counted for him from the furthest parts of our galaxy. Extraterrestrial lives matter!

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 7:01 AM
Reply to  Guy St Hilaire

“Forgive them for they know not what they do” — New Testament

Guy St Hilaire
Guy St Hilaire
Mar 1, 2024 7:57 PM
Reply to  NickM

This definite has value as the last words of the Christed one Jesus .
The last words were meant as coming from ignorance and I accept this .
I do have a caveat in doing so though .What if the act was done willingly
with malice and not ignorance ?Would one forgive evil ? Satanic acts ?
I don’t intend in getting into religious arguments but just saying .Thanks for the reply .

MattC
MattC
Feb 29, 2024 7:48 PM

Of all the Peoples in all the World, surely it would be the Israelis, who having been treated so appallingly in the 1940’s, that they would be desperate to maintain standards of civilised behaviour.

Yet in less than eighty years they have forgotten all the lessons of history.

Any sympathy for them is gone.

Jenner
Jenner
Mar 1, 2024 1:52 AM
Reply to  MattC

Israeli novelist Amos Oz once opined that your statement, common among liberals, was specifically Christian in its (his phrase) anti-semitism. He said that was because the idea that the gas chambers were like a baptismal font to wash away Original Sin (your “lessons of history” ) in which bad people go into the camps and then come out (if they survive) as Better People ………….is a Christian notion. Actually, Oz was much crosser in writing this than I have indicated. He seems to have believed that moral betterment was expected in the West only from Jewish suffering but not when other peoples suffered. He did not give examples but I will: the treatment of Zimbabwe refugee blacks at the hands of RSA blacks is routinely ignored in the meejah, rather than the meejah bleating: “after all that RSA blacks suffered under apartheid, how can they treat other ex-Rhodesian blacks so… Read more »

Big Al
Big Al
Mar 1, 2024 4:18 AM
Reply to  MattC

Lots of people were treated appallingly in the 40’s, not just jews.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 5:00 PM
Reply to  Big Al

For instance Gypsies, Poles, Russians, Communists and anti-Nazi Germans.

First they came for the mentally disabled and other “useless eaters”.

Big Al
Big Al
Mar 1, 2024 10:47 PM
Reply to  NickM

Blacks, hispanics, Asians, etc. This Jewish pity party is sick.

Carlyle Moulton
Carlyle Moulton
Mar 1, 2024 9:32 AM
Reply to  MattC

The only thing that anyone learns from history is that noone who learns from history can prevent a repeat.

Never Forget
Never Forget
Feb 29, 2024 7:29 PM

110

Cloverleaf
Cloverleaf
Feb 29, 2024 8:05 PM
Reply to  Never Forget

Which country will be #110 I wonder.

boxofcrayons
boxofcrayons
Feb 29, 2024 7:00 PM

as distrurbing as an undisguised attack is, a sneaking invasion with far-reaching influence is a much more virulent evil.

John Manning
John Manning
Feb 29, 2024 6:54 PM

Thank you Michael, you have made a small step to restore a thought that Jews are still part of the human species.

However it is a very small step for the total of what Jews have become. When next you hear someone slander “the jews”, stop and think a moment of their display of themselves in Gaza.

Pavel
Pavel
Feb 29, 2024 9:19 PM
Reply to  John Manning

Those are fake Jews hiding behind Judaism – not from the Holy Land and whose ancestors hadn’t even converted til 740 AD. The European colonial project hides behind those who believe they are the chosen people. Not by God, that’s for sure.

Gordon McRae
Gordon McRae
Mar 1, 2024 2:22 AM
Reply to  John Manning

There is a world of difference between jews and zionists. Please don’t lump them together.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 7:13 AM
Reply to  Gordon McRae

There is an even greater difference between Zionists and Zionazis.

“I’m Talking About Jerusalem” — Wm.Blake.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 7:12 AM
Reply to  John Manning

It’s not “the Jews” or “the Germans” or “the British”; it’s Original Sin.

“True civilisation is not AI or solar. True civilization is to diminish the traces of original sin” — Baudelaire

Victor G.
Victor G.
Mar 1, 2024 1:25 PM
Reply to  NickM

Original Sin! One of my all time faves … but let’s all agree that the seven deadly sins are more fun, no?

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 5:16 PM
Reply to  John Manning

I can see the pre-War Jew-haters of Europe and America slithering out from the rocks under which they have been hiding after we beat the German Nazis. Encouraged by Israel’s obstinate embrace of Apart-Hate followed by Genocide under the inexorable Logic of Military Occupation. Israel’s Zionazi Yahoo regime has not only squandered Israel’s monetary capital in illegal Wars of Expansion and Occupation; it has also squandered its precious Moral Capital of post-WW2 sympathy for Jews and for the revival of ancient Judea in Modern Palestine.

Freecus
Freecus
Feb 29, 2024 6:51 PM

Indoctrination through Church & State are very powerful forces, especially when studied over a number of generations.
When looking at Israel today and South Africa (pre-1994), the similarities are striking.
Cui bono..?

Erik Nielsen
Erik Nielsen
Feb 29, 2024 8:23 PM
Reply to  Freecus

Cui bono..? London, New York and Washington.

sandy
sandy
Feb 29, 2024 6:14 PM

The repeating atrocities have been going on since 1947. Without the US/West financing and directing these war imperialism profit campaigns, non of this would be happening. Quite simply, the bloody US and Western Empire residents must shut down their government’s war machines, the US being more than all others combined. 75 years of justifying a settler colonialist population to vote-support 1% war empire. One mythical enemy after another: “communism”, theocratic conflict, “national security interests”, “terrorists”, “strongmen” or merely disobedient, undeclared colonies, it’s all the same. Naive and duped populations need to say “We do not consent”, pull all revenues and authorities, and all participation, and take authority to end war empire and create a sane Public Commons of needed services.

Veri Tas
Veri Tas
Feb 29, 2024 10:50 PM
Reply to  sandy

Actually, the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians began after WWI when still under British mandate. Yea, about “mandates” …..

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 7:24 AM
Reply to  sandy

True. Modern Israel is a creation of modern (19th-21stC) Anglo Zio Global Capitalism. Israel is not only that tiny country in the Holy Land; it is a prestige project for Global Capitalism; it is their “unsinkable aircraft carrier” and sympbol of power over oil rich West Asia.

When I was a boy we owned Libya, Egypt, Palestine, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, the Gulf States and Saudi Arabia. By now we have lost all of those except our little “unsinkable aircraft carrier in the MENA.

Martin Usher
Martin Usher
Feb 29, 2024 5:34 PM

This article just underscores what we all should know intuitively but somehow forget — Zionism is a cancer that feeds of Judaism, a Master Race philosophy that perverts the core tenets of the religion to suit purely temporal goals. This isn’t a new of unique phenomena, though. Western history (likely all history) is littered with similar examples, of peoples justifying their conquest and oppression because of some God given right. Burrowing under all the pseudo-academic justification that is used to justify this is invariably resources — money and power with religion being just a tool to promote the interests of the powerful, people by their nature who attract sycophants and naturally ‘can afford the best’. I am not at all religious but I have a great deal of respect for practitioners like this rabbi, people who live their faith. >We Orthodox Jews have allowed traditional Judaism to degenerate to the… Read more »

UncleWalrus
UncleWalrus
Feb 29, 2024 5:45 PM
Reply to  Martin Usher

They are most definetly from the same stable, my friend, You can also find direct backing of national socialism from the Rotschilds through the Rockefellers, whom by the way were responsible of helping the national socialist machine create oil from coal through Standard oil(which is clearly proven in Anthony Suttons book “Wallstreet and the rise of Hitler”, the same Rotschilds that propped up the zionism we see today, it should also be noted that the IRGUN types absolutley adored the facists in Italy and wanted to work with Mussoulini in the early stages. The average Azkenazi is to them what the average German was to the nazi regime, and what we all are to the “masters of sustainable development” cannon fodder, cattle to be “managed”, and these ideologies often all come from the same core, which is why nazis and zionists or for example zionists and the hamas types(just example)… Read more »

underground poet
underground poet
Feb 29, 2024 10:41 PM
Reply to  UncleWalrus

The system is designed to destroy the individual family structure so as to more easily control and influence the general population.

UncleWalrus
UncleWalrus
Mar 1, 2024 3:25 PM

In this case, “mummy and daddy” were metaphores for the state or the zionist wing of the global control structure, my friend.

NickM
NickM
Mar 1, 2024 7:36 AM
Reply to  UncleWalrus

“IRGUN types absolutley adored the facists in Italy and wanted to work with Mussoulini in the early stages”

Yes, the Jewish Italian poet Sereni was one such. The dining hall in Kibbutz Givat Brenner is named Sereni.

“Did He who made the Lamb make thee?” — Wm.Blake, “The Tyger”.