“Measles Mayhem”: Where is this going?
Kit Knightly
The headlines are full of measles at the moment, in the way that always reeks of coordination.
The measles outbreak in the US has been simmering away for weeks, but was brought back to the front burner in the last few days. The Daily Mail headlining:
America on verge of measles MAYHEM: Hundreds feared to be infected in California and Arizona outbreaks as US suffers year’s worth of cases in two months
It’s not just Arizona and California either. Chicago, Florida and Philadelphia all have “outbreaks” of their own.
An article in the Atlantic headlined “The Return of Measles”, claims there have been measles outbreaks in 19 separate states.
Meanwhile, on our side of the pond, a measles outbreak that started in Birmingham in January has apparently spread north and south. The UK’s total cases are apparently up to ~733.
In Ireland, the scary story is that one person on a flight from Abu Dhabi to Dublin tested positive for measles a couple of days ago. That number has since risen to three! The authorities are desperately hunting down anyone who was on that plane.
That’s three measles scare-stories in three different countries at the same time, with maybe more on the way
To quote Ian Fleming, “once is happenstance, twice is a coincidence and three times is enemy action”.
So what is this “enemy action”? Where is this story going?
First, let’s get this out of the way: This is not a public health scare. Not a real one. Measles is not especially dangerous, with a reported case fatality ratio of about 0.02% in Western countries, meaning for every 5000 people who get measles 4999 will survive.
So what’s with the scary headlines? What’s the endgame here?
To answer that we need to ask “who are the media are blaming?”, and as with most issues these days there are two answers to that.
Yes, it’s another binary.
On the one hand, the “left” arm of media is busily blaming “anti-vaxxers”. The “right” arm of the media is blaming illegal immigrants.
Let’s examine the left side first.
Last week the New York Times headlined:
Vaccination Rates Dipped for Years. Now, There’s a Measles Outbreak in Britain.
Then, two days ago the Los Angeles Times reported:
More parents are delaying their kids’ vaccines, and it’s alarming pediatricians
The Louisville Courier-Journal has an article in a similar vein, claiming “Covid denialism allows other infectious diseases to spread”.
In the UK the “liberal” press is laying the blame at the feet of the so-called “Wakefield generation” (referencing Dr Andrew Wakefield, who publicized a possible link between MMR and autism in the 1990s).
In Canada, TVO.me, a not-for-profit run by the Ontario Board of Education, opines “With measles making a comeback globally, we need to talk about vaccine hesitancy”
Having established “blame”, is there a proposed “solution”?
Of course — making the MMR vaccine mandatory.
The UK’s NHS has already launched a major MMR vaccine drive, with accompanying talk in the media claiming “Want to get rid of measles? Make the vaccine compulsory for kids”
(As noted in our previous article on measles, there is a new “vaccine” in the works combining MMR and Covid vaccines into a single nasal spray. Look for that to get more media attention soon.)
In Canada – where there has barely been an outbreak yet – CTV discussed the possibility of mandatory measles vaccines four days ago.
That’s one side of the argument, which can be roughly summed up as “Anti-vaxxers are fueling measles outbreaks, make vaccines mandatory”
What’s the other side?
The other is blaming illegal immigrants
The “outbreak” in Chicago has been traced to an “overcrowded” migrant centre.
Two separate articles in the Daily Mail cite “experts” who blame the nationwide “outbreak” on the “open southern border”:
Biden’s border is leaving America open to drug-resistant outbreaks, experts warn – as second measles case is confirmed in Chicago migrant shelter
They’ve been setting the stage for this particular “issue” since at least last summer, when USA Today warned that New York’s Asylum Seekers were a potential “public health crisis”, while the UK tabloids were talking about TB outbreaks in asylum centres.
Their proposed “solution”? Control the borders. How? Why, with biometric visa tracking and digital IDs obviously.
This was first suggested years ago. When Trump was campaigning in 2016 he promised what they now call the “digital border wall”, powered by AI. Similar systems are already in the works in other places around the world. According to the DHS website, they are already using biometric facial recognition at border crossings.
In December 2023, the UK’s former Lord Chancellor David Gauke wrote:
Do you really want to stop the boats? If so, you should back digital ID cards.
As I wrote in my piece 2024: The Year Global Government Takes Shape, digital identity systems have long been the elite’s catch-all solution, including to stopping illegal immigration.
That’s the other side of the argument. Essentially, “Illegal immigrants are bringing disease over the border, we must institute AI-powered biometric digital identity checkpoints to stop them”
This split-blame approach existed when we published our previous Measles article back in January, the difference is now the solutions are coming out, a manipulated non-choice between two different dystopian tools of control.
That’s the false binary: are the anti-vaxxers or immigrants to blame? Should we introduce digital identity systems to secure the border or mandatory vaccines to increase immunity?
Whichever side you pick, you lay the groundwork for both, because by your taking a position you have legitimized the false predicate of the argument. That’s the rhetorical trick.
Both sides build their position on the same underlying assumption – i.e. there is a measles outbreak and we must do something about it – and both sides play on existing biases to scapegoat a minority, hoping to leverage that division into more authoritarian social controls of one kind or another.
Which way modern man – digital IDs or vaccine mandates?
Choose neither, or you’ll end up with both.
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Obviously, the measles threat is due to anti-vax illegal immigrants or Martians. Beam me up, Scottie.” Heigh-ho.
We all die.
Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Socrates… You, me and everyone we’ve met.
Fear not death but embrace it as naturally as knowing leaves fall from a fig tree when the season comes….
The greatest Democracy sends its troops abroad “for defence” or “to spread democracy”. The covid jab got many of these patriotic grunts before a bullet did.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/us-navy-medic-shut-down-releasing-unclassified-dod-data-showing-937-increase-heart-failure-among-vaccinated-us-military-personnel/5852175
“As noted in our previous article on measles, there is a new “vaccine” in the works combining MMR and Covid vaccines into a single nasal spray. Look for that to get more media attention soon.”
That’s one injection against two diseases: Measles and Covid, neither of which are high risk diseases. Has anyone studied the relative risk from getting measles and flu versus the risks from side effects of MMR and the Vaxx?
The world is suffering from too much compulsion based on too little experimental testing. It would be another tragedy if this MMR were rushed out with as little testing as the Vaxx, and ended up by killing and maiming as many children as the Vaxx has done worldwide.
The world is suffering from superstition and too much unthinking obedience.
The world is suffering from total subversion by the very wealthiest.
All vaccines that ever were or are will be toxic and harmful if the vials contain what we are told.They bring plagues of disease.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2022/08/17/what-is-the-flu-a-k-a-covid-19-and-why-vaccines-are-pointless-at-best/
No virus has ever been found, so no vax needs to tested nor made to begin with.
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/the-virus-rouse-going-going-gonzo
Focusing on this quote…”That’s one side of the argument, which can be roughly summed up as “Anti-vaxxers are fueling measles outbreaks, make vaccines mandatory” What’s the other side? The other is blaming illegal immigrants” Every critical thinker knows there are three sides to a story. The third side is….what if there is no such thing as a pathogenic virus? That’s the side I’m taking which leads me to being ganged up on by the two sides. Not much fun…especially when you wreck a good binary and ruin a convenient distraction from actually destroying the .001 percent’s wet dream of ridding the world of as now-dead Prince Philip called us…”useless eaters”. Instead of engaging in these mindless and useless narratives….get to the truth….there is not ONE SINGLE ISOLATED AND PURIFIED pathogenic virus of ANY KIND on this planet. You cannot ignore Koch’s Postulates if you want to be credible when talking… Read more »
So you believe in vaccination to achieve good health … but, like RFK, you want better vaccines…
So, how did governments identify all those scary variants? Scary as they were far more infectious, though milder? Multiple countries managed to identify the latest evil variant from just a few foreign tourists, within a day or 2 of one another. The PCR test itself was a joke, so, how could they expound on all the fine differences between variants?
Lol. It’s done with software on a computer. It’s a model.
It’s called IN SILICO DE NOVO ASSEMBLY.
The software assembles a theoretical genome every time, and every time it’s slightly different. Because it’s not real.
Make them up as usual. Governments are good at making things up.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2021/12/02/various-variants-covid-19/
I am not an anti-vaxxer, I am anti-stupid as poisoning oneself in the name of good future health is incredibly stupid.
https://alphaandomegacloud.wordpress.com/2023/08/10/why-vaccines-do-not-work-in-a-nutshell/
You are correct, except Koch’s postulates have not been shown for any bacteria even though they do exist.
https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/genetic-vaccines-and-pcr-tests-russia
“Genetic vaccines & PCR tests: Russia is ready for Disease X”
“Disease X” is funny. It’s as if they’ve given up trying to come up with a name and are saying, “Oh fuck it! It’s over to you! Call it what you want!”
Then there’s that bit about China (and obviously not just China) “warning that this hypothetical pox will ravage the globe unless we reverse “climate change” and put an end to “expanding human activities””
This is a constant refrain in the media since 2020 – the combination between a dramatic apocalyptic thundering rhetoric and a ludicrous vagueness. They’re desperately concerned about something but it’s hard to tell what it is!
From your Link:
More fear mongering from the crass bureaucrats who dreamed up Zero Covid.
The zombie forever spasms. It can do nothing else: https://time.com/6898943/is-covid-19-still-pandemic-2024/ “Experts Can’t Agree If We’re Still in a Pandemic” Gosh our executive hack class just don’t know what to make of it all, at one point even asking, “What’s a pandemic, anyway?” So let’s just cut the bullshit and say what they really mean. It’s this: “We’ve been spinning you the most godawful crap. You know it. And we know you know it. But there’s no way we’re ever going to admit it. And you know that too. So we’re just going to scratch our heads, pontificate, jibber the old scientifico hocus pocus, get majorly philosophical, stick in a couple of half hearted scares and try to keep this turd stew simmering. And even if nobody ever buys it again, we’ll just continue as if they have anyway. Doesn’t bother us. We’re getting paid for this crap anyway. Well at… Read more »
I would suggest we spent more to find out what a virus really is, so we next time know exactly what we are doing.
We must not stop now, only until there is consensus among Science and the Pope about what defines a new global
plandemicexcuse me pandemic.A New One World Order and a new One Pandemic. We can do it together folks.
During my hiatus from this forum, I (mercifully) forgot all the vacuous “There is no such thing as a Virus” arguments (or should I say “non arguments?”). I’m open to the possibility that the virus does indeed not exist – at least as a pathogen. What I am NOT open to is the outright dismissal of those symptoms and sicknesses attributed to viruses. The “No Virus” advocates have an obligation to offer at least suggestions to help explain the very real, and very apparent, symptoms – especially regarding something like measles, which does, like chicken pox, present very real, measurable symptoms. One might turn my argument against me by saying that, as an atheist, I am obliged to offer suggestions as to the various God symptoms. But the thing is, unlike virus symptoms, God symptoms are ALL subjective and cannot be identified or measured through any possible means. Delusions are… Read more »
Thank you. I’ve had a break from Off-Guardian too. Dismayed to see the same old astroturf psyops playing like a broken jukebox in a desert.
Howard “I’m open to the possibility that the virus does indeed not exist – at least as a pathogen. What I am NOT open to is the outright dismissal of those symptoms and sicknesses attributed to viruses.” Nobody dismisses the symptomologies of ‘colds’ and ‘flus’ because everyone has experienced those symptoms. We terrain folk merely dismiss the false ‘viral’ theory. Given that our bodies are water-based, there are two fundamental types of toxins in the world: water-soluble toxins and fat-soluble toxins. Our primary detoxification function is our our daily detox which primarily happens at night when we sleep. Generally speaking, ‘colds’ are secondary/seasonal detoxifications from an over accumulation of water-soluble toxins that our daily detoxed a haven’t been keeping up with for whatever reason(s), and ‘flus’ are secondary fat-soluble detoxes, but the two also can and often do overlap. Because we are water-based, excess fat-soluble toxins, which are more complex… Read more »
You are simply arguing by assertion.
Arguing by assertion while providing no scientific, corroboratory evidence, while also insisting virology is invalid unless it proves certain evidence, is simply the height of hypocrisy.
I don’t have an unconditional faith in science. It does make mistakes. After Covid, who could not be sceptical. However, there is a big difference between evidence-based reasoning and evidence-free belief.
You appear (to this admin) to be dressing one up as the other, to be special pleading and mixing and matching logic to put most wokists to shame lol
Let’s be consistent.
Believe what you want, however you will preface all further comments as your belief, OR you will link to quality evidence (not some middle-aged snide dude narrating a video on bitchute called something like ‘viral delusion’ or whatever, I’m talking about good quality, scientifically-valid sources).
A2
There’s no money to be made from the body’s own detoxification initiatives, so it doesn’t get studied.
You forgot to mention that “the body’s own detoxification initiatithe body’s own detoxification initiatives” include natural immunity against infection by micro-organisms such as amoeba, bacteria and — of course — viruses.
Pls show a paper finding purified isolated virus of any type, not a genome, EM photo, or cell culture-none of those can actually FIND an object..
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/the-virus-rouse-going-going-gonzo
Happy to accept there aren’t any, however are yo happy to accept that this doesn’t mean virology is ‘disproved’. There are many ways to prove a hypothesis.
Please show a paper demonstrating that toxins can cause identical measles symptoms in many multiple people.
A2
Again, you are trying to reverse the burden of proof — which lies on whoever is claiming the existence of an entity. Here, it lies on the virologists. They need to prove that their beloved cause exists, and they haven’t. End of story.
I refer you to my various other posts. I am not attempting to reverse the burden of proof, you are talking past me. I am saying that in order for this conversation to be relevant it needs to speak the same language as the science it is critiquing. ‘Proving’ a theory can be achieved in an infinite number of ways. Inductive reasoning and hypothesis-driven science work by asserting something as ‘truth’ and working backwards from that, testing this hypothesis. It doesn’t all hang on one piece of evidence in the way it’s often presented here, it is a ‘best fit’ explanation for what is observed experimentally. For example, I don’t need to witness it raining outside, I can leave my home and see that the ground is very wet, and reasonably infer that it has rained. Using the above example, isolation and koch’s postulates could be equivalent to witnessing the… Read more »
I take that point, however let’s not commit a modal fallacy. Just because there isn’t a lot of study in this area, that doesn’t mean your assertions are accurate, and nor does it mean virology is de facto incorrect.
In actual fact, allopathic medicine/pathogenesis AND hollistic terrain theory could coexist and influence one another. Or BOTH theories might be wrong.
I think it’s about time someone did some research into terrain etc.. Without this research we are arguing from the unknown, also known as an Appeal to Ignorance.
This is not a new age health festival, and we are not recruiting followers here. Lol We need to argue from the evidence.
A2
Here’s the thing about that research though, and you’ll recognize this as well as the rest of us do. Many out here do indeed cite actual literature about viral theory vs terrain. But most of that research is NOT something that will ever hit the main stream for the public to even observe, much less will that actually be studied with honest intent by those who hold themselves out as experts. So how can we really say no research at all into that topic has been done? Would we know about it if it were? And would most believe or even contemplate something that basically upends the entire field of medicine, along with their own entire world view? When doctors are held out as Gods? You seem to be almost buying into the fallacy that if something is true our owners would reveal it to us through some public forum,… Read more »
I just want people to be consistent. I’ve made that very clear. No one addresses that, they pretend like i’m saying something else. It’s all rather predictable at this point lol. Maybe people are a bit mad with me because they don’t like to have their inconsistent thinking pointed out to them, but frankly that’s probably a burden I’ll have to bear as admin here. People say, why do I get involved in this discussion? Well, I don’t think there is another subject on here that’s discussed with so much faux certainty. It chokes up every article relating to viruses. Believe in terrain. Sure. But we mustn’t preach our beliefs as though they are fact, and we mist be consistent in our reasoning. If pathogenesis was never ‘proved’ because some evidence is brought into question, terrain certainly hasn’t been proved either. As long as we can acknowledge that, we can… Read more »
We have to realise that as far as the majority here are concerned- the science is settled and the consensus is overwhelming- viruses don’t exist. Mind you, the overwhelming consensus is that science is never settled. Figure that one out.
Viruses have not been found, and likely do not exist, but we can’t say they categorically do not exist and if you are not clear they only have not been found you may get more blowback than necessary from the yes virus camp.
Given the failed attempts to demonstrate contagion with Spanish flu, and failed attempts to transmit certain illnesses even via injection, certain alleged viruses can be ruled out.
On another note, I find it interesting how the article above takes “measles” diagnoses at face value, and how Sam is fine with that.
I’ve said I’m not ‘fine’ with that, in that I share a skeptical view of virology in some respects. Which is why this conversation disappoints me. If we merely respond with equal faux certainty about terrain theory, it turns the whole conversation about evidence into a complete mockery, since no one (to my knowledge) is conducting or demanding terrain research. Thanks, A2
Again, you are trying to reverse the burden of proof or, perhaps, claim that both sides have an equal burden. But they don’t. The burden lies with whoever claims the existence of an entity, i.e., with the virologists. And they haven’t met the burden, as I think you agree. But maybe I am too hasty, and you don’t agree. In that case, where have they met the burden? Meanwhile, if you do agree (that they haven’t met the burden), then virology is just another unproven idea — one that gets no extra credit whatever the status of “terrain theory.”
I do not agree that virology has not met the ‘burden of proof’, merely that ‘isolation” does not constitute the sole means of ‘proving’ virology.
It’s not that difficult to understand, really. A2
I agree that virology is not difficult to understand (it’s just ruling-class pseudoscience). However, your comment is.
For example, what does “I do not agree that virology has not met the ‘burden of proof’” mean? Does it mean that, in your view, virology HAS met its burden of proof? In that case, you think that viruses exist, replicate only in cells, cause contagious disease, etc.? If so, where did virology meet its burden? Let’s take measles as an example, because we have an extensive trial about its alleged virus. In what paper or papers has it been shown, to your satisfaction, that the virologists have met their burden with the measles virus?
Then you add “‘isolation’ does not constitute the sole means of ‘proving’ virology.” What other methods, in your view, suffice as valid means? (Perhaps the answer to my previous question about the measles virus also answers this question of methods.)
These are exactly the questions I want to see explored. At quantum levels light behaves in extraordinary ways which defy physics and linear time. We are all happy to apply doublethink and believe that we live in an eternal, stable, Newtonian universe on a day-to-day basis, when in fact the very building blocks of it appear to be utterly deranged lol I could well believe that contagion exists in a strange Schrödinger’s Cat metaverse, observable from some angles, invisible from others, but always shrouded in uncertainty. Almost as though uncertainty itself were the point of it all. Almost as though the universe were making up the rules as it goes, because if these pesky humans are going to probe into things, there needs to be something there for them to observe when they get there, and who cares if it quite makes sense. Yes, I could wax philosophical about this… Read more »
The point of science is that it isn’t subjective, therefore you’re making my point… most people here apparently aren’t even attempting to approach this evidentially or scientifically – further, they are special pleading that virology must do these things, but not them.
What future does this have for challenging the corrupt medical establishment?
i’m going to go out on a limb here and say fucking zero. Downvote that to your hearts’ content, offg terrain community. 😂
Read it again sam before picking up your musket. For the record, I didn’t down vote you and I was agreeing with you. I don’t care who you fuck, as long as it’s not me, wash your mouth with soap and water before you address me in future.
If you’re agreeing with me you’d be the first, since there is obviously a group of people campaigning on this issue who are very vocal btl.
Don’t be afraid, you know, to chime in a bit less ambiguously in future, since you can read your comment either way, depending lol.
btw, i was speaking to the wider community re. downvoting. I’ll amend to make that clearer. A2
Yes. To make my stance clear- I feel that the terrain THEORISTS are doing what we all hated about the covidians viz- acting like the science is settled, which is an oxymoron. They haven’t considered whether or not it’s a psyop of the divide et impera nature. It’s ,TT,impossible to prove either way and as I’m not a doctor, it’s none of my concern.Anyway it’s probably a bit of both, why should one rule out the other? Personally, I blame Pandora, the bitch.
Most of what I hear from people who believe in Terrain Theory are
1) there has been to date no evidence of the existence of pathogenic viruses;
2) there is no evidence of contagion, and studies attempting to prove contagion have all failed; and
3) we don’t know for certain what causes each & every illness, but since people questioning those who no longer believe in viruses keep asking “so what’s the cause of illness?”, many logical “theories” are proposed, basically leading back to “terrain theory.”
Unless scientifically proven, they generally are not out there saying “the cause is THIS”.
And, they tend to be open to alt explanations if & when their “theory” is proven untrue.
Scientific evidence … hmmm. The trouble with orthodox medical research is that fraud is very likely second to incompetence in generating erroneous results . “Unreliable Research – Trouble at the lab”, The Economist, 19 Oct 2013 (http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21588057-scientists-think-science-self-correcting-alarming-degree-it-not-trouble). According to the authors of Tarnished Gold – The Sickness of Evidence-based Medicine (EBM), S Hickey & H Roberts, EBM breaks the laws of so many disciplines that it cannot be considered scientific or even rational. They also claim that the concept of proof is not scientific, being a feature of mathematics and logic. By definition, logical proof is absolute, however, all scientific knowledge is uncertain! According to the authors, the scientific community has unquestioningly accepted the notion of “legal proof” into its paradigm which protects corporate medicine, not patients. There’s no such thing as “scientific proof”. A person’s viewpoint can and does skew their results, even when the results are repeatable and the… Read more »
Everything is ultimately belief. We have to believe our faculties, that our senses, our minds, are giving us the truth, even with so-called evidence.
Reasoning is still based on belief or faith if you will that what we observe is true or real in some sense.
reante used logic based on observation. It is presented for discussion and trying to ridicule it as you do is the height of hypocrisy.
I see you like to use ‘lol’ in your comments. It can have its place but not in this case.
Let’s not get solipsistic now lol
If i concede that Koch’s postulates and isolation have never been fulfilled, will you concede that there are more ways than these to ‘prove’ a hypothesis? Scientific proof is often arrived at by a circuitous path, using proxy evidence. It is rarely as straightforward as an easter egg hunt, ya know?
If you are happy to concede this, are you also happy to concede that there are no terrain ‘Koch’s postulate’ equivalents, and de facto these have not been ‘fulfilled’ either, nor are there any ‘isolates’ or other definitive proof of toxins repeatably and predictably reproducing measles symptoms in test subjects.
The onus is surely on terrain adherents to prove all this before they start citing it as a valid alternative to pathogenesis?
A2
Sure, if they are citing terrain theory, they should support it. But it’s irrelevant to this topic, for nobody needs to cite terrain theory to refute virology. The virologists have to meet the burden of proof, showing that viruses exist, behave as they say, and cause (contagious) disease. Where have they done so?
So far, no scientist has ever been able to demonstrate using the scientific method (control experiments and the null hypothesis) that the independent variable under investigation (the alleged ‘pathogen’) causes the hypothesized dependent effect (a set of symptoms called a ‘disease’).
See my above reply to @Baldmichael Theresolute
Sam, please clarify your comment: “you will preface all further comments as your belief, OR you will link to quality evidence”.
Is this is a new rule for everyone writing and commenting on Off-Guardian, or just for certain people who write things that you disagree with?
Kit’s article is based on the premise that “measles” is a distinct illness, yet she provided no “good quality, scientifically-valid sources” to back up this premise. Is it hypocritical of “Off-Guardian” to publish such an article and then have an “admin” berate a commenter for not citing such evidence?
To be clear, it’s a direct response to the flood of pseudo scientific faux certainty which this issue attracts. The sheer volume of it. It applies to this thread, to discourage a copy/paste info dump of unqualified assertions in place of an actual meaningful dialogue. Most replies here simply ignore the meaning of my posts and continue as though i’ve said something else, which, if done consistently, is a dishonest debating practice and can even be a form of trolling. I have used similar policies per thread on other subjects, like exotic Covid lab-leak scenarios, exotic DEW 9/11 scenarios, exotic flat earth related scenarios, and hardline climate change believers making apocalyptic forecasts. Most of the time the reasoning behind such arguments is hazy, while the commenting output is prolific and sustained. Often accompanied by a targeted voting campaign behind the scenes. Going forward, on other article comment threads, I will… Read more »
“To be clear, it’s a direct response to the flood of pseudo scientific faux certainty which this issue attracts.”
Apparently the admin was asleep for the global operation that launched in 2020 when the majority of doctors were certain that injecting mystery fluid into people was the way to go. How can any commenter here compare to that blind faith? There are still articles being written on most mainstream and indie news sites about SARS-CoV-2 WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN TO EXIST. If you’re not demanding more from every one of those writers, then your hypocrisy tells me everything I need to know. Off-Guardian might need to address why it allows admins to defend mainstream science based on poor evidence or completely fabricated ideas.
What am I defending? If you can tell me, using a specific quote, then perhaps I will be better able to respond.
Covid placed more onus on us to follow the scientific process and apply strict logical thinking, not less.
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You made a logical comment. Sam wants an absolute proof negation of virology which is impossible because that is asking to prove that no virus exists in any and all places which is an unfalsifiable logic fallacy.
The onus is on the virus hypothesis makers to disprove the null hypothesis that there is a virus (defined as replication competent obligate intracellular parasite with protein coat and genome) in some specified location (usually a patien’t fluids). Since they have not in >100 years and thousands of studies, the validity of virology as a science of virus objects actually looks bleak, but is not disproven. A virus is still findable somewhere over the rainbow maybe?
Wilfully misunderstanding people is not debating, btw. I am not defending virology here, I’m sure it does need an overhaul, I have no doubt. What I’m suggesting is, those taking virology to task need to up their game if they are to stand any chance of succes and avoid the very same anti-science pitfalls they accuse virology of!!!! Now, when it comes to ‘proving’ a hypothesis, there is more than one way to skin a cat. I know you wish to reframe this as a virus easter egg hunt in which no isolates = no cigar. However, this feels a bit simplistic to me. Have you stopped to consider whether your terms of proof are realistic or meaningful? Are you doing the equivalent of asking science to put lightning in a bottle? I’m sure I don’t know either way. Science is under the impression it has successfully been crystallising viruses… Read more »
Hi Sam, you impressively spent your valuable time in looking at this issue, thank you. A virus is said to be a replication competent intracellular parasite with protein coat and genetic material used to design its replication and ability to leave the host cell and invade other cells. This is the definition and the finding of such requires an actual object that is characterized. In order to find this kind of object it needs to be separated from everything else (purified-isolated by centrifuge) and characterized. Neither an EM photo of mixed and dead objects of unknown provenance, cell culture of mixed things that break down cells (whether or not patient fluid is added), nor letters printed from a computer erroneously called a “genome”, finds an actual object. Some like to say the genomes are homologous with prior viruses, but when you look into those, they also have never been isolated-characterized… Read more »
This is more waffle missing the point. You are attempting to frame a complicated issue in over simplified terms. There have been many things which couldn’t be ‘isolated’ due to technological/physical limitations, and yet science successfully predicted their existence through processes of elimination, later to be vindicated when technology has caught up. I’m thinking about particle physics etc. There are many clear precedents of your ‘see it to believe it’ logic simply constituting luditeism if applied historically. It’s kinda parochial, ya know? Does this mean virology is right? No. Does this mean virology is as flawless/honest/noble as people would like to believe? No. What i’m saying is your reasoning is fundamentally flawed and kinda sucks lol. You are being too simplistic. I see no one attempting to set up a dialogue and test their convictions in an open-minded way with the virological community. I see a closed-minded echo chamber in… Read more »
Thanks Sam, while I stand by the logic my comment reply to you I agree we are at the end of our discussion rope.
We have the technology to see a virus if one existed. That has never happened. That doesn’t mean viruses do not exist. Instead, scientist claim that unidentifiable particles are from a virus…that they have never isolated. These are then attributed with causing an illness. Anyone who knows this is the process and still does not discount that idea is very useful for the network.
Actually, your summary isn’t accurate. Opinions vary, with some virologists claiming that finding a virus in vivo is essentially impossible, as it’s a needle on a haystack affair, and with others claiming that you can’t isolate a virus, as per Koch’s postulates, since they can only exist and multiply within a host cell. There are many things we can’t detect in a straightforward manner, lots of quantum effects connected with light for instance, the uncertainty principle, etc. This is not the same as endorsing virology, or defending virology, you’ll understand, it’s to point out that this ‘see it to believe it’ logic is inherently flawed. There are other ways to ‘prove’ a hypothesis, and this materialist view and approach isn’t shared by the majority of scientists in a majority of fields. Therefore your arguments are really only intended for the layman, and i think there’s a real danger in that.… Read more »
Sam you failed to cite scientific evidence to back up your assertion re particle physics, despite telling someone else that going forward they “will” link to “scientifically validated sources”.
You miss my point. I wasn’t presenting or defending a view other than consistency. I have been pointing out, by various means, that ‘to see is to believe’ is not the only way to prove a hypothesis.
Far from demanding everyone exhaustively link to everything, I’m happy not to do that, provided comments aren’t aggressively misrepresenting their statements as absolute. This is a common coercive debating tactic, and it is not appropriate here, especially since terrain appears to have ZERO scientific research to back it up (amateur or professional), which makes it all feel like a big double standard, and sometimes amounts to sleight of hand.
Thanks for your comment. Feel free to continue discussing whatever On Topic issues you like, but please, everyone, couch your personal views as such. Thanks. A2
I do not even know how to understand claims such as, “Science is under the impression it has successfully been crystallising viruses since the 1940s.” Who is this “science” that supposedly has impressions? And if you mean “a very large majority of virologists”, then what papers show a long line of crystallizations? Which viruses were crystallized? How were they isolated before being crystallized? What are their crystal structures? If they are so easy to crystallize, why do virologists keep using the cell-culture method, where the alleged virus is never isolated?
You are glimpsing why this is a complicated subject. I suggest the answer to all your questions are processes of elimination drawn from whole separate sets of data collected from various chains of experimental evidence. Dense, dense stuff. Everyone can talk past each other or speak a different language. You can argue a layman’s argument using layman’s language to laymen, and leave scientists out of the equation entirely. You might even feel you’ve drawn some useful ‘conclusions’… …but are they meaningful conclusions? You can’t know, because you’re speaking separate languages and talking past one another. The crux of the matter is, you need to speak the same language to communicate between camps, and only then can we make some meaningful comparisons. The language should be logic and evidence-based reasoning. It shouldn’t be confined to simplistic, materialistic concepts of evidence, it should accommodate the full length and breadth of the evidence… Read more »
Your stats show how strong is residual disbelief in the existence of viruses and viral infections: 9 for, 7 against: 44% have not yet caught up with the greatest medical discovery of the 19th century.
Your rhetoric indicates that, despite your claim of such, you are not open-minded at all. You do not seem to be a serious person, seeing as the arguments refuting the virus hypothesis are notoriously backed by straightforward analysis of all the supposed experimental evidence of viruses and their biological properties. You act as if “virus-deniers” are denying that people get sick. No serious person has ever been on the other side of that, dare I say, non-argument. What exactly is the difference between attributing real, measurable events to a god or to a virus or to an invisible, yellow rhino named Hector? Either you have logically sound methodology and epistemology to undergird your theory, or you admit that your default assumption is simply based on faith. You see how this works? By your own logic, if you want to credibly dispute the Hector hypothesis, it must be incumbent on you… Read more »
Symptoms do not equate to having “caught” a virus. There are only two causes of disease: Deficiency and noxious stimulus – the latter more often than not from so-called medicines or industrial/agricultural chemicals.
I would include trauma as its own category.
Relabeling was the most common form of fake called Covid
seasonal self-detox of built up garbage
Pollution
Past vax toxins
EMFs
Disinfectant from PCR swabs and masks
Vaping
etc
Bigger story is tuberculosis. Today, Morning Wire (an audio segment of The Daily Wire) had an interview with a medical doctor about the outbreak in a California “migrant” housing center. All across the country the illegal aliens are packed in like sardines. Public buildings like elementary schools, park facilities, etc. Perfect for spreading the disease. People coming over the border are not being screened for anything. Period. It seems like the Biden administration wants to cause an epidemic and they don’t care what it is. You don’t want TB. It destroys your lungs by, simply, eating holes in them. Your lungs don’t regenerate. Once you get it, it takes years of strong antibiotics to make it go away after which your lungs are destroyed, if you survive. The latest data shows a 13% mortality rate with antibiotics. Nasty. Again, If you survive, you will be permanently disabled and likely end… Read more »
Let me get this right, you watched an absolute shill network (daily wire) who endorsed the vaccine and pcr tests and also wanted mandatory vaccines.
There fake story of some immigrants a fake story by the shill network with links to multitude of military intelligence services , you now want the same,….
Under the guise of screening.
Does not take much for the warden mindcontrol to be fully installed.
Actually, it was not Ben Shapiro. Ben is married to a doctor and can’t be objective about Covid. Daily Wire has many contributors. Morning Wire,a contributor to The Daily Wire, interviewed another doctor who is very knowledgeable about TB by what I could tell. When I was a kid we still had a TB sanitarium a few miles from where I lived. TB is nasty. So nasty that patients were isolated from the general population before the advent of antibiotics. Patients are still quarantined. Some of the Daily Wire stuff pisses me off too. What does that have to do with the TB outbreak? You think that California made up the story so that the Daily Wire could spread propaganda? You know anyone who has suffered through TB? You understand the concept of what TB can do and why the sanitariums were necessary? I am old enough to to understand.… Read more »
No one ever proved Koch’s postulates for TB. It just means those bacteria are located at those lesions, doesn’t mean they are the cause.
Do an in-page search for Tuberculosis here
https://viroliegy.com/2023/10/06/the-germ-theory-house-of-cards/
It is not enough to call for the washing of hands. You must show the process in 6 or more pictures, or a video, produced at public expense as if for imbeciles. Note: Washing obsessively cracks the skin; sanitising obsessively makes the (surviving) microbes stronger.
My mentor, Professor Robert Harkness, noted in 1990 that medical authorities were becoming careless about screening and isolation for communicable diseases such as TB. He came from a generation before the discovery of antibiotics. Since then, I have frequently remarked that the worldwide spread of HIV and resurgence of TB and STD coincided with the spread of Privatization ie, “there’s no such thingh as society” nor social welfare. The current fusion between Private Interest and Public Welfare (monetising of public health services) which has taken over the World Health Authority is a potent toxin in the collective body of humanity; as shown by Con-19, statins, psychotropic drugs and probably by MMR — all these being world-wide health initiatives based on insufficient experimental testing at their start, and reluctance to change in the face of subsequent evidence of harm by these widely disseminated and hugely profitable pharmaceutical agents. All of which… Read more »
There is not a single scientific controlled experiment study that proves that Mycobacterium tuberculosis causes tuberculosis.
Yet every kid in the US has had their MMR vax so how are they going to get around that?
Finally!!
… says the Guardian and doesn’t allow comments.
And then there was that (BS) story about the German guy who took 217 covid jabs, suffered no ill effects, and never got covid! I guess the covid jabs are just as miraculous as covid itself, for making every other disease seemingly disappear!
It was a wonderful story but like the German guy full of holes! 🙂
In fact given all those holes I suspect the story ‘leaked’ out…
It would have to be a Germ-man of course as they are Germ-manic, mad about Germs…
How do they sleep?
I assume people without a conscience sleep pretty well.
It’s so obvious, but these days it has to be stated- covid vaccines INCREASE the risk of VACCINE RELATED heart failure and blood clots. Have you heard of virus caused blood clots? They’ll be telling us they decrease the risk of dandruff next.
Bald men can get their hair back. Another positive effect of the vaccines. We should not only look at the negative sides.
“Have you heard of virus caused blood clots?” No, But I have heard from reliable sources that Virus Covid-19 aka SARS-2 is a bat virus that has had a GMO Spike Protein inserted (U$ Patent App by Moderna, 2016); and the furan-binding-site on this GMO virus is specifically designed to attack human vascular epithelium. So it is not unlikely that Covid-19 could cause blood clots or disturb the cardio-vascular system (though I have not heard of such — apart from its causing SARS). Covid-19’s other characteristic, as SARS-2, causes Severe Acute Respiratory Distress because its GMO spike protein attaches to furan-binding sites on the huge network of capillary bloodvessels in human lung tissue. Outbreaks of SARS in the neighbourhood of U$ Bio-warfare Lab Fort Detrrck in Maryland, U$A, caused that Lab to be closed down and its Fauci-funded GMO Virus research to be sub-contracted to Wuhan, China. I suspect that… Read more »
Baffling with science – impress the ladies, astound your friends and shock your grandmother. My easy guide is cheaply available at Orinoco.
The line below the headline : “……for up to a year.”
After that, you’re brown bread !
The measles thing seems to have taken all the alt medias outlets mind space, Yet at the same day the measles articles (manufactured) came out. the extremist law came into effect in the U.K by the freedom loving conservatives which has been hardly mentioned. Definition of extremism updated to respond to increased extremist threat since October 7 terror attacks in Israel. The new definition provides a stricter characterisation that government can use to make sure that extremist organisations and individuals are not being legitimised or given a platform through their interactions with government. It reads: Extremism is the promotion or advancement of an ideology based on violence, hatred or intolerance, that aims to: negate or destroy the fundamental rights and freedoms of others; orundermine, overturn or replace the UK’s system of liberal parliamentary democracy and democratic rights; orintentionally create a permissive environment for others to achieve the results in (1) or… Read more »
“Which way modern man – digital IDs or vaccine mandates?”
There is nothing wrong with IDs, digital or otherwise. In the old days Britain’s failure to issue paper IDs was hailed by Britishers as a testament to freedom; actually it was a testament to backwardness, as was failure to join the Common Market..
There is nothing wrong with Global Government either. Nor is there anything wrong with a Multipolar World on the Westphalian model of national sovereignty. What is wrong is Government by the plausible elected by the gullible.
But there is definitely something wrong with Compulsory Universal Vaccination; or cumpulsory universal anything. Such extremism is unnatural. Nature loves to make exceptions; to reserve a small number of experimental mating pairs who might develope into a population with natural immunity because their immune system has not been compromised by vaccination.
“Uncertainty rules, OK?” — Wehner von Heisenberg, mathematical physicist.
I think there is something wrong with compulsory government. You go and enjoy being governed by your globalist government if you want. I’m good thanks.
More bollocks from the PTB. Measles epidemic!? I think I might have had it as a kid, but I can’t really remember. Well now I keep the dreaded lergi at bay. Quite simple: Cod Liver Oil, Zinc and Vitamin K2 MK-7 daily. Next up my 80th birthday. Have a nice day all.
This just in from Neil Young:
Tin soldiers and vaccines comin’
Biden don’t need no gun
His goon squads are out injectin’
The needle and the damage done
Don’t know that one George _ _ _ _
though some of those lyrics sound familiar.
Back when he had a conscience, way back:
Always the trouble with piss takes. You assume folk will know what you’re taking the piss out of. In this case an old song called “Ohio”. One of his best. The original lyrics go:
Enjoy – from the time he was relevant:
I thought that Neil Young had sided with the pharma fascists, along with Foo Fighters and Bruce Springsteen?
Is Springsteen one of them too? I didn’t know that. Anyway, never could stand the prick with with his faux working man’s shtick and the fact that he’s never had a proper job in his life. Curiously, he never took drugs, not even the odd toke on a spliff……odd, given that he rose to prominence in the rock n roll era. Also the fact that he is referred as, and refers to himself as “The Boss”. I once asked someone who used to roadie who was the most obnoxious prick they had encountered and no prize for guessing who
Working class hero, Springsteen, played to vaccine segregated audiences in New York City in 2021. Shame on everyone who endorsed this apartheid.
So the Boss is a Tosser?
‘Born in the USA’
Raised on patriotic propaganda.
After all is said and done the plutocrats have only one allegiance: Mammon.
You know he didnt write the lyrics for most of that album, he got the credit though.
I heard the writers either drowned in their pools or commited suicide.
Could be wrong though, of course.
‘Raised on Robbery’ more like.
From the beginnining he was funded to front the ‘Born in the USA’ patriotic Psyop. When his handlers wanted some real work doing he was called in to front that. Are we getting it now?
Almost all ‘artists’ are owned. This is certainly true if they are contracted to a label, agent etc. The more successful / influential, the higher the likelihood.
Own by who and why, the system of course, for financial control naturally.
Aging pop stars grow irrelevant, compromised and bald. They can only go downwards, even in royalties, unless they suck up to important new friends or do some imbedded advertising. Remember Bob Dylan’s medal from the Bomber.
What? Are you an old roady who didnt get paid??
no, I just have an aversion to inauthenticity
Good luck proving that, its everywhere.
I know he doesn’t side with the one trick pony’s.
I made up a parody about Springsteen too. To the tune of “Born in the USA”: “Called Donald Trump and took him to task Said, “Put on a fuckin’ mask!” If our mouths are free we may wise up So best hurry up and cover ‘em up Born in the mRNA I was born in the mRNA I was born in the mRNA Born in the mRNA Did my bit for Karl Schwab Didn’t want to be a slob They put a needle in my vein They told me it was worth the pain Born in the mRNA etc. I really worried about how I’d look So I put my first shot on Facebook I’m swaggering around on that TV set And lookin’ to see how many suckers I’d get Born in the mRNA etc. Figured I’d join the LGBT Booked myself in for some surgery But now I’m startin’… Read more »
Brilliant George… I wish he would re-record it with these lyrics. I might listen to it, although he would have to change the crappy, repetitive six-chord dirge of the inane ‘Eighties sound’ original… and the bloody awful video where he ‘dances’. Springsteen always was corporate rock, and it is a mystery to me how he became so popular even before the mask fell in the last four years. A pretend working class hero for the blue collar workers was his carefully created image, all carefully designed with record company funds. His only listenable track is ‘I’m on fire’, in which he provides a credible Roy Orbison’ impression. He played ‘vaccination papers please’ gigs. As another post states, most high level music stars are sadly controlled and compromised, too scared to speak out in public or in their songs. Hats off to the ones that refuse to compromise – Ian Brown… Read more »
Yeah.I could never make myself like Billy Bragg. It just doesn’t and didn’t ring true. Never totally overrule your instincts. Mine have saved my ass before now. You don’t want them to be unavailable when you really need them. I felt that way about Brucie, too.
he did…broke my heart!!!!
In 2023 in the US about 400 people died of measles, 19,500 died in car accidents and 112,000 died of fentanyl over dosis.
Which issue can easiest be misused to grip all Americans in their bodily freedom?
This table of iatrogenic deaths in the US is frightening:
http://www.ourcivilisation.com/medicine/usamed/deaths.htm
“A medic can bury her mistakes” — Proverb.
Unnecessary Procedures caused 37,136 death AND cost the most @ U$ 122 Billion, or .. gave an extra income of 122 Billion.
Bed sores death! Why havent anybody ever mentioned this top 3 national problem?
Thanks Johnny for taking that one up here on OffG.
Oh, they’ve noticed about the car accidents all right and are in the process of weaponising that one too.
This goes back until at least when probable asset J.G. Ballard wrote ‘Crash’ in 1973. Ballard actually calls car crashed a “pandemic” in that work. The transhumanist theme of man merging with machine is the novel’s core theme and the fetishisation of destruction is ultimately Satanic.
Ballard was born in the arch-cosmopolitan city of Shanghai. Steven Spielberg loved Ballard’s novel about his childhood so much he made it into his first “grown-up” film, ‘Empire of the Sun’.
And on the topic of J G Ballard’s possible connections to nefarious networks, see what you make of this take of his on the JFK assassination. He re-imagines it as if it’s a race where Oswald fired the starting gun. Cute whimsy? Covert hint? Adding to the obfuscation? See what you think. It’s a very short piece:
https://evergreenreview.com/read/the-assassination-of-john-fitzgerald-kennedy-considered-as-a-downhill-motor-race/
“People freak out over aircraft accidents, which are rare, but accept car accidents which occur hourly and kill far greater numbers”.
From “Numeracy”, a book which ought to be a set book in every school curriculum.
It’s awful, I can’t bear it – Life causes 100%of deaths.
Its also responsible for 100% of its births.
Measles virus has never been isolated and purified and proven to exist. If you have such evidence….On Nov. 24, 2011, German biologist Stefan Lanka posted a notice online saying he would reward anyone who submitted a scientific publication proving the existence and size of the measles virus with €100,000. You could become rich if you have proof.
Sorry to be off topic (again) but I just can’t resist posting these begging letters from the Fraudian. This one followed a truly despicable review of the latest film about Julian Assange. You can be sure that the rag will be pushing these mmr vaxxes. just like they did the Covid poison. The guardian is the newpaper equivalent of Tony Bliar. Free press! Don’t make me laugh. Do you know who hates the Guardian? The billionaires creating a world that’s more unequal than ever. The populist politicians spreading discord and misinformation. The fossil fuel executives watching the planet burn as their profits swell. The tech giants shaping a new world around us without scrutiny. And do you know who does like us? People who believe in a free press. People who believe that the truth should be available to everyone. And people who recognise the importance of challenging those in… Read more »
The Guardian!
‘All the news that’s fit to SHIT’.
“The Guardian doesn’t have an ultra-rich owner. “
The Guardian Trust used to have a permanent representative from Rothschild on its board. Later I read in OffG that it has funding from Soros, who is Rothschild’s right hand man in the EU$A. I stopped reading the Guardian because it cheers every Pipelinistan resource war, from the Albanian pipeline in 1990 (Kosovo) to the Nord Stream pipeline in 2010 (Ukraine).
Did you have to let it linger ?
Delores.
A tortured soul.
Me? A conspiracy theorist?
Let me get this straight.
The mega wealthy do not, and never have, contrived, plotted, and manipulated governments and the public to increase and protect their obscene wealth.
Monopolies, duopolies, cartels, tax free benefits and tax havens do not exist.
The wealth of the oligarchs hasn’t increased exponentially?
Really?
Well, grease my arse and slide me into Dizzyland.
A case of the (Pol) pots calling the kettle black?
https://dissidentvoice.org/2024/03/prejudicial-bans-congress-tosses-over-tiktok/
Real rocket, fired into space, did not make it real, show me planes flying real time, as if, nobody has been to space, no satellites there, (flights, balloons !),
Doesn’t matter where they think they live.
What’s in a name ? Plenty !
To prevent the disruption of Business As Usual:
for “infant vax injury” use “shaken baby syndrome”
for “The right to informed consent” use “vaccine hesitancy”.
..
No party concerned with law – legislator, government prosecutor, lawyers’ association, judge, insurers – has pursued the outrage of the consent form that everyone compelled to take the jab had to sign. Long after the proprietary pill that “protects against covid” became available, people and even infants are getting the “emergency-approved” wonder-jab. Perhaps the manipulators are waiting little longer to rewrite history, just as in the case of many events over the last 100 years.
The ad nauseum playbook aimed to demonize and create hatred toward “anti-vaxxers”, the most popular smear next to ‘conspiracy theorist’, all the while never mentioning the fact that virtually every kid in the country who attends school MUST get this shot. So, it’s possible that about 2-5% of kids haven’t had the shot, and most likely most other shots, and these kids are much much healthier than the universally poisoned. Always B.S.
‘The law is an ass’
(Especially when it can be bought and sold by criminals).
“It is concerning that where cases have been brought in respect to large pharmaceutical interests that the courts are not allowing the cases to get beyond first base.”
More here:
https://brownstone.org/articles/australian-court-blocks-covid-vaccine-challenge/
Back when the WHO was still a little bit about health:
Vitamins, not vaccines or drugs, are the answer.
“Severe measles is more likely among poorly nourished young children, especially those with insufficient vitamin A, or whose immune systems have been weakened by HIV/AIDS or other diseases.”
“All children in developing countries diagnosed with measles should receive two doses of vitamin A supplements, given 24 hours apart. This treatment restores low vitamin A levels during measles that occur even in well-nourished children and can help prevent eye damage and blindness. Vitamin A supplements have been shown to reduce the number of deaths from measles by 50%.”
– World Health Organization http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs286/en/
And that’s just ONE vitamin.
Cellular immunity requires specific nutrients in adequate amounts; people are not vaccine-deficient.
D. N. McMurray, “Cell-Mediated Immunity in Nutritional Deficiency,” Progress in Food & Nutrition Science, 1984, p. 193.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6396715
Plus vitamin D supplements and B12 for vegetarians.
But too cheap, no big Pharma profits!!
Give them some beef liver, that’ll have all the vitamins they need. Formerly a popular food, now sidelined by the fake disgust inculcated into a generation of softarses, the same fake disgust that drives people to be afraid of bad smells and to infuse their home with endocrine disrupting chemicals because of a fear of bad smells. Win win for the petrochemical industry. Afraid of liver, perfectly happy to eat a “chicken” McNugget. I can’t figure that one out either.
Make the liver organic if you can though. It’s by far the best meat for you, health wise, and you only need it once a week. If that was the only meat you ever ate you’d be a lot better off for it.
I don’t take in my vitamins and minerals vicariously through animals who have eaten the plants for me….
Important to avoid (especially) organ meat from industrial farming and mass retail.
I can’t help but notice that the statement that virus hysteria is bullshit in its entirety is getting less and less pushback. WE ARE BREAKING THE CONDITIONIIIINGGG!!!!
Pretty soon even OffG will come around to acknowledge the truth.
Let’s not forget Masha and Dasha! https://chiromanhattanbeach.com/amazing-accidental-event-reveals-the-primary-cause-of-dis-ease/
Interesting juxtaposition of news items on TV tonight: First, the disastrous rate of store closures across the UK: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68556629 Second, the launch of the “world’s most powerful rocket”: https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-third-test-flight-launch The rocket’s name? … “Starship”! To assault the public mind with visions of James T Kirk! And divert attention away from the dismal disintegration of the rocket on re-entry. Or perhaps to divert attention away from the even more dismal futility of the entire endeavour? Certainty diversion was clearly in the minds of the broadcasters with a whole barrage of cooing swooning adulation over the magnificently phallic “achievement”, examples aplenty to be found in the link above with oodles of opportunity for schoolboy technophile masturbation: “With almost 16.7 million pounds (74.3 meganewtons) of force, its Super Heavy booster rocket produces almost double the thrust of the world’s second most powerful rocket, NASA’s Space Launch System.” Ooh matron! So put these… Read more »
Boys with toys.
Like government expenditure on holiday fireworks.
NB: Both these activities are exempted from restrictions (and scolding) on greenhouse gases.
And the Military Industrial Complex of course.
The BIGGEST CO2 emitter on the planet, and the most insatiable consumer of the tax dollars of hard working USians.
Store closures are a success. Transnational ruling class are reducing the number of corporations who will end up running the world in Mussolini’s description of (global) fascism. Expect less choice in everything.
I’ve commented on earlier stories in O-G, this paranoia on measles is comic, as I remember “measles parties” back in the early ’60s — the idea being that children should get it now and get it over with. Do we have better solutions now, or are we just more paranoid? Well, actually, the 1950s and 60s were an era of Cold War paranoia (government perpetrated to a large extent). Fear of Russians? Seeing them as the enemy? Has that gone away? But I digress from the point I wanted to make — of course both “solutions” to the dreadful measles “epidemic” are absurd. The propaganda does have one point, however, incoming immigrants ARE often held and processed in horrible, overcrowded conditions (and the urban poor more generally live in such conditions). Communicable diseases DO spread more easily in such circumstances, and some of those diseases are serious. Improved conditions, not… Read more »
This extreme paranoia is unfortunately not new. I got what was diagnosed as “measles” as an adult about 9 years ago. I actually felt incredibly horrendous (I would recommend catching it as a kid) and yet in my very sick state I was having to answer so many phone calls from the NSW (Aust) Health dept about my EXACT whereabouts and contacts. It was insane the level of detailed questions I had to answer over a period of days. And what made me feel really, really bad is that all the fellow teachers at my school had to be tested for measles antibodies and if they didn’t have any, they had to get jabbed! I was so shocked over this craziness. Funnily enough not one of the hundreds of students at my school or my circle of contacts got “measles”… but I do have testable antibodies to “it” to this… Read more »
They milked your case for all it was worth. The jab maker is assured of more orders.
Read this book. What Really Makes You Ill. Chapter 3: The Germ Theory A Deadly Fallacy.
Fuck this book, fuck the germ theory, fuck the deadly fallacy, and fuck everybody who pushes this bullshit, especially those who do it intentionally to clog up people’s heads with inconsequential manure so as to prevent them from focusing on issues of importance, most notably the fact that the (Atlantic) civilization is in a state of utter decadence, on the brink of collapse, with people totally fucked up in their heads, men posing as women and vice versa, people pissing in litter boxes as cats, and getting criminalized for using what some fuckheads deem wrong pronouns. At the same time, the stuff that has allowed this civilization to prosper – fossil fuels – are declining, where the inevitable physical reality will make the hole circus disappear, regardless of whether it takes years or decades. Did I say fuck the germ theory and complete imbeciles who keep running off at the… Read more »
Chill pills!
Available at your local dealer.
And Purple Pills available from Johnny.
That’s a lot of anger for 6am. Are you sleeping OK? All that anger and hatred won’t help you my friend and it won’t harm those you direct it towards. It will only harm you. Learn the power of forgiveness and heal yourself. Big love.
Sociolog You need to focus on moving through the angermourning stage and into acceptance. Civilization collapsing is an objectively good thing when looked at from outside of the civilizational mindset. Remember that knowing is only half the battle. Once you accept the reality you can be reborn in the new reality – into open space. The open space operates under natural law. Germ Theory is the most profound distortion of natural law that there is because it tells the lie that nature/Creation is set against itself, is a house divided. The purpose of germ theory is to ingrain into the urban collective subconscious the Hobbesian false claim of nasty, British, and short. That you can’t see through germ theory means that you are working blindly in the woods. Look around you. See how the woods work. Work with the woods to know the woods . Pattern the causes and effects.… Read more »
Yes.
Get a fecking life for feck’s sake!
Says this drongo who appears to spend a large proportion of his current “life” putting together his amusing little rants.
You are right. The return of notifiable diseases such as TB and STD followed the return of The Empire of Greed and Poverty.
“There is no such thing as Society” — UK PM Maggie Snatcher..
Guys, do you realize that having you yap about measles, as opposed to yapping about, or even seriously pondering, issues that actually matter might be the objective here?
There are many, many shades of grey.
Here’s the absolute horror story of the USA’s deadly measles outbreaks – straight from Wikipedia.
1989 to 1991 (before vaccine) – 123 people died (horrible, horrible!)
2018 – 371 cases (monstrous!)
2019 – 1215 cases (run for cover!)
Can we please now start to take this terrible disease seriously?
Yikes and double yikes – nearly as dangerous as the CV19 @ 0.02% a real killer?
None of the “cases” exist because symptoms and/or fraudulent tests don’t qualify as legitimate “cases”. They are artificially generated statistics, in order to push
vaccinationpoison injections.There is not a single scientific study in the world which has proven the existence of the measles virus.
There is not a single scientific study in the world which has proven the existence of Researcher, so what the fuck are you still doing here? You don’t exist. So, disappear!
There’s a ‘log’ in your ‘path’ Socio.
Sociopath = Jacques
What offends you about someone who favours actual science over public opinion? I’m only trying to understand you. If a measles virus has never been proven how is it offensive for someone to point out this fact?
When it comes to more complicated scientific hypotheses, we can rarely prove or disprove them definitively, only prove or disprove them within reasonable limits. I agree that some reasonable doubt has been raised about virology, but this is not the same as ‘disproving’ it, and if we don’t make that distinction, we look like laymen. I haven’t seen anyone sum up the wider body of evidence for virology in order to make a reasonable assessment, myself. I gather that virologists find it difficult to isolate a virus, with many virologists arguing that doing so is impossible by the definition of a ‘virus’. I also gather that many people claim this pulls the rug from beneath virology as a whole. however, without a comprehensive overview of the evidence, direct and indirect, this just seems like a layman’s approach to me. Why so many people are happy to believe in terrain theory,… Read more »
No. It was that when controls were used in virology, the control results immediately and repeatedly disproved the virology hypothesis.
Up to those asserting virology to prove it, not up to the rest of us to disprove it. That’s how the Scientific Method works.
Hovno, merde, big fucking shit.
The way science works is that one guy proposes a hypothesis and then some other guy proposes a better hypothesis. And on and on it goes.
Virologists have proposed a hypothesis. It’s got some holes, but it’s the best there is to date. You have shit. You’re a nice try no cigar naysayer. If I was a virologist, I would tell you to go fuck yourself, and I’d be perfectly entitled to do that.
So shut the fuck up already about the scientific method and come up with your hypothesis and prove it at a minimum to the same extent as virologists.
Disclaimer: The above in no way means that I endorse virology or viruses. I don’t give a fuck about them. What I do give a fuck about is nincompoops who do shit a dis other people’s work.
The scientific method assumes something is true and tries to disprove that.
That is just patently true lol
Does it have pitfalls, is it subject to human error and corruption? Of course!
Has virology cast some doubt on its scientific integrity post covid (and before)?? Yes!!!
However, we mustn’t commit this formal fallacy:
If it turns out proof of viral isolates is false, this does not disprove virology. There are infinite potential other ways to prove a working hypothesis. As a mathematician yourself, and presumably familiar with some of Einstein‘s and other mathematicians’ work in theoretical physics, I’m sure you know this principle perfectly well, actually!!
I am at pains to understand why we keep falling out about this lol
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Your objective assessment is appreciated. As has been said before, however, the germ theory and viruses are a non-issue. None of it matters in the context of the fausse pandemic and the opposition thereagainst. Not only was convid in essence a financial event, but the liberticidal aspects of it must be countered with a simple insistence on personal and bodily freedom. End of story. Whether virology is complete bullshit or not is an issue for scientists who like to poke into nanoscopic shit in their stinky lab. It has nothing to do with freedom or the societal upheaval we’re witnessing. As to the cause of disease, it makes no difference whether the flu, or other diseases, is caused by virus or something else. We know what to do to get better, like take a fucking aspirin and stay in bed, and that’s all there’s to it. Once again, viruses and… Read more »
I was simply asking for a scientific proof of Researcher’s existence. Does any institution, such as a government, anywhere in the world have an isolated, purified sample of Researcher? Doubt it! Therefore Researcher exists not and I was simply asking the same to dis-fucking-appear in line with her non-existence status.
You probably don’t exist either because there is no isolated purified sample anywhere on record of Telluride Omera.
Two can play this idiotic game, don’t you know?
Well, I don’t know how different medical providers in different countries and without me saying anything, can all show that I have measles antibodies from blood tests. I’ve had to test for antibodies when I was pregnant.
I’m really open to it being symptoms from toxins or poison but I have never had a satisfactory response about these “antibodies”. Can you please enlighten me?
Antibodies are allegedly Immunoglobulins (proteins) found in our blood. The so-called Measles antibody is Immunoglobulin M (IgM).
However, antibodies are all NON SPECIFIC. IgM are claimed to be the first line of defence in response to
“infections”toxin exposure, vaccination.“An immunoglobulins blood test alone cannot diagnose any conditions.”
EU countries and many others, can and do share electronic health records. Especially vaccination and blood work. Particularly if you have ever gone through an immigration process.
More reading on Immunoglobulins and whether they really exist in reality or are a hypothetical molecule/model.
Hi Researcher, thanks for spending the time to reply. You make interesting points and I’ll look up those links- cheers!
You present a quandary. If indeed the statistics are “artificially generated,” they could at least have made them high enough to reach over the laughter they inspire.
Propaganda spreads the false belief in contagion. Penetrates the subconscious beyond our conscious awareness. It’s the repetition of the lie that matters. Not the artificial stats.
Viruses and germs notwithstanding, contagion does exist. Empirically observed by umpteen generations.
You no-virus windbags are one-trick ponies. All you do is find a seemingly weak spot in your opponent’s argument and run at the mouth about it ad infinitum.
OK, you’ve made you point. Some aspects of virology are questionable. And indeed, virology could be complete bullshit, a cul-de-sac of science.
What you haven’t done is propose a viable alternative theory. You push all sorts of utter phantasmagoria, TOTALLY scientifically unsubstantiated. Whatever you have a incomparably weaker in terms of scientific evidence than what virologists do. In fact, you have complete shit.
So, until you present something to that effect – substantiated, that is, not some hallucinations – kindly shut the fuck up.
I have had measles, fever 40C and red spots. All children in my big family had it, and we were supposed to have it, to build up a strong immune system at that time.
Measles was natural and a real thing. So what are you talking about?
Non specific symptoms don’t equal cause. To prove cause you need more than superstitious belief in contagion and a fake test.
Note how measles death quadrupled when vaccine was introduced. I recall from little boy how our family refused a coated sucker because of too many cases of children being ill.
So the whole vaxx thing is just new wine on old bottles. 🤑 . Money. https://youtu.be/4JDWJzKYfdc
No hysteria yet on this one from the Fraud… but they have something even more ridiculous instead:
https://dumptheguardian.com/environment/2024/mar/14/explorer-ernest-shackleton-grave-antarctica-south-georgia-bird-flu-dead-seals-aoe
Piles of dead seals from bird flu might just top Al Gore’s drowning polar bears for nonsense.
Had the seals been paid a visit a few weeks before by the Grim Reaper aka Bill and Melinda’s white coated, purveyors of death with needles in hand?
Got to hand it to you, the gvt isnt the only one attempting to portray their citizens in a bad light.
I think its contagious.
Well, here’s what occurs to me. Normal measles that we all grew up with may not be dangerous per se.
But now that so many people, including children, have had their immune systems shot to hell with the cvid injections, will something like “the measles”, or whatever it is, really do harm? And then conveniently be used to get everyone injected again with the new mrna measles shot?
And then we can blame all the immigrants who were flown over here by the same people w know and love (deep state elite globalists) for the new deadly measle outbreak.
I wish I were kidding.
Good points! Have we merely succeeded in weakening our natural defenses so that diseases, both serious and trivial, will come back stronger and more deadly?
Most diseases are the body’s attempt to detox. So the more toxins we are exposed to – air, water, soil, radiation, food, plastics, pharma drug etc – and the more we are injected with toxic concoctions, the more powerfully our bodies attempt to detox.
Yup. They’ve also started babbling about TB, which if I remember correctly would have been held off by naturally derived immunity but now makes a resurgence due to mRNA. Hmmm…..
My favourite doctor, Sam Bailey from New Zealand, talks about “the measles myth”.
https://drsambailey.com/resources/videos/viruses-unplugged/the-measles-myth/
Beautiful and wise beyond her years.
Long may she flourish
As Stefan Lanka has thoroughly established, confirmed by the German High Court: Measles have never been proven to exist, let alone be an infectious disease.
Opens up a real can of worms though. There are many circuitous ways science uses to prove a hypothesis, eg. by consistently proving certain predictions, and this chain of evidences can be long and winding. Science doesn’t often hinge on physically ‘isolating’ a particle in such simplistic terms, which is often impossible due to physical/technological limitations. Therefore, the scientific method often approaches problems more obliquely, using proxy evidence, and logical inference etc. I welcome a challenge to virology, I really do! Orthodox science is due a shakedown!, However, in order to do this and not just peddle beliefs, I suggest that someone needs to do some comprehensive scientific studies into terrain theory et al and publish these findings. One problem I often have is, people often cite that we shiukd see more people ’catching’ diseases in hospitals if pathogenesis were real, yet we do not, apparently (whether this claim is… Read more »
No one has scientifically proven that germs cause disease.
The burden of proof lies with the one who speaks, not the one who denies.
I hope you see your fallacious reasoning there.
This is not a court of law and the ‘burden of proof’ does not exist in a framework of ‘innocent until proven guilty’, the way you are presenting. Hypothesis-led science and inductive reasoning works quite the opposite way, in fact. It leads with an assumption of truth – a hypothesis – and tries to disprove that assumption. Absence of a physical isolate isn’t an issue if you can prove your hypothesis in other ways. Have you really evaluated the full body of evidence for contagion/virology? Or have you merely reduced an incredibly complicated subject involving many tens of years’ research into a layman’s quibble about finding ‘isolates’, as though this was as simple as an easter egg hunt?? I honestly don’t know if Terrain has any real scientific basis, but i advise us all to think in those terms, and hopefully someone will do some scientific research into contagion alternatives… Read more »
It almost seems like you have no clue about the philosophy of science and the scientific method in particular. Hypothesis-LED science is not science, it’s just hypothesising. Germ theory is not even a theory, it’s a disproven hypothesis that exist only by begging the question. The germ hypothesis has been disproven on all fronts. Not a single study exists that confirms any hypothesis.
I can spend my days hypothesising what my life will look like when I win the lottery. The minute I start living my life and base my actions and spending on the idea that I actually won the lottery, the hypothesis doesn’t become true. This is in essence what virology does, and to make it even more stupendous they didn’t even own a lottery ticket.
I can spend my days hypothesising what my life will look like when I win the lottery. The minute I start living my life and base my actions and spending on the idea that I actually won the lottery, the hypothesis doesn’t become true. You’re presupposing that germ theory is not true in this analogy lol. In fact, your analogy makes my point. If you are not sure whether you are a lottery winner or not, one way of getting to the truth of the matter is to hypothesise that you are one, and see if your hypothesis lives up to reality. As you proceed to test your hypothesis, and your hypothesis continues to fit the observable facts, after a while you may decide your hypothesis is ‘proved’ and call yourself a millionaire lol That is entirely in keeping with my explanation, and it is entirely in keeping with how… Read more »
Virology has never been seated, it has never been proven. You simply accept proof by assertion and by implemented public policy.
Terrain refers to your body, its ability to remain healthy. If your body is compromised, injured, weakened, it gets sick. How does one get the flu? In the winter, there is a lack of sunshine (lack of Vitamin D), lack of nutrients, cold (people don’t like that – there is nearly a perfect correlation between sickness/death and temperature), low humidity that compromises the respiratory tract, etc. All this weakens the terrain/body, possibly exacerbated by other factors, and one gets sick. According to statistician Pierre Chaillot, mathematical analyses show that viruses/germs don’t enter the equation. Correlation with temperature (works for heat waves too) is just about perfect. At the same time, bacteria evidently attack the body, possibly when the terrain is weakened and present a threat. Also in the case of injuries when the skin is damaged and bacteria can enter inside the body. Both germ and terrain are valid concepts,… Read more »
Scott’s expedition to Antartica 1910-1912. Although exposed to extreme cold and wetness for months on end no one fell ill with colds or flu for the two years they were there. As soon as they reached New Zealand and came into contact with people almost all the expedition members fell ill with colds and flu.
“Bacteria attack the body”. Lol. More reading required Jacques.
Contagion, whenever it has been put to the test, has failed. An important example is Rosenau’s 1919 study of “Spanish” flu, supposedly the Covid of 100 years ago. But maybe you know of a study that demonstrates contagion? If so, cite away.
They do cause infections, which can lead to death, what is your point?
Your comment above, and many of your others in this thread, are elaborate attempts to reverse the burden of proof — for example, when you say that the “terrain conversation is basically conjecture[.]” Even granting your claim, which is arguable, so what? The burden of proof lies with the person claiming the existence of an entity. Otherwise, we’d have to spend our days refuting the existence of the Eastern bunny, Santa Claus, and Bigfoot. Thus, here the burden lies with the virologists and their defenders. Nobody has to show an alternative cause of, say, “measles” (a demand that implicitly contains a dubious premise, that measles is one disease with one cause). The virologists have to show that their beloved cause, the virus, exists, behaves as they claim (replicating only inside cells, etc.), and causes measles — and that measles is contagious. So, where’s that showing, either of the virus and the ancillary requirements or… Read more »
That’s not how inductive reasoning and hypothesis-driven science operate though. Rather than say what you’re suggesting, I’m saying that you’d be talking past each other if you were attempting to discuss this with a virologist (I am not a virologist or an adherent to virology, btw).
There are multiple ways to ‘prove’ a hypothesis within reasonable bounds, and this pseudo-legal ‘innocent until proven guilty’ / ‘see it to believe it’ logic misses that out completely.
The upshot is, I welcome a challenge to virology, but this conversation will fail to do convince anyone but laymen.
The test would be to debate this with virologists.
Agreed, this is an entirely diff. matter to terrain theory lacking any substantiating evidence.
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Virologists mostly refuse to debate. For example, they refuse to take up the mild Settling the Virus Debate challenge put forth by Cowan and others. In the rare cases that virologists do debate, such as the Lanka trial, they lose. So, the test has been done, and the results are clear.
Anyone who is waiting for the virologists to agree that they are empty handed, however, will wait a long time. For virology is a pseudoscience beloved of the ruling class. Why would the ruling class throw away a powerful weapon? Do you wait for the CIA to agree that it assassinated JFK, RFK Sr., Malcolm X, or John Lennon?
I hope Lanka has done a useful job at demonstrating that working with viruses isn’t as straightforward as putting tiny little baddies into a test tube and putting a lid on very quickly before they escape and attack you (unless they deflect off your mask of course 😉 – and all the cartoon covid imagery that was floating around in 2020. In fact, it appears that there is an uncertainty principle regarding how, when, and why contagion occurs. It is not as straightforward as many like to believe, and yet, according to a very many people, epidemiology does show patterns of disease and people do appear to ‘catch’ matching collections of symptoms from one another. We should remember, demonstrating uncertainty is not the same as demonstrating error. Proving uncertainty is not the same as disproving virology. We need to build on Lanka’s findings and widen this discussion if we really… Read more »
Stefan Lanka is a standup comedian. Charismatic, funny, great to have a beer with. That’s about it.
I encourage you to attend one of his seances. You’ll piss yourself laughing. For more than one reason – his jokes and the incoherent ramblings he peddles as science.
It all boils down to the fact that they overdosed us on capitalism and every pleb now has the means to live a decent life.
They’ve got to get the big guns out to get us back in our box.
every pleb now has the means to live a decent life
When did you arrive, and from which planet?
“Measles is not especially dangerous, with a reported case fatality ratio of about 0.02% in Western countries, meaning for every 5000 people who get measles 4999 will survive.”
Well, we know the playbook for dealing with that one now – headline after headline about cases mixed with a handful of in-depth stories about a tragic measles’ death (either from some celebrity – are any minor Royals available? – or from some alleged vax denier).
It’s probably all programmed into the A.I. now which will come up with something about as competent as that “Wonka immersive experience” in Glasgow recently.
It’s going nowhere if you don’t write articles on it…
Yes, I think all of us, deep down, envy ostriches.
The ostrich is turning her egg.
What the hell is the Sheeple doing?
Hang on, now we know.
Au contraire Rodney…
The psyop is the same.
Invaders (deadly disease) trying to get cross the border (body)
we need something done (vaccine) vaccine passport = protection.
2 meter rule (fence / wall)
The same psyop as invisible enemy.
Or The churches, your possessed by the devil.
But they want porous borders now….
I’m sure this could be painted as a masterful forwarding of two contradictory narratives for extra befuddlement and demoralisation – but it looks more like stupidity and panic in the wake of the disintegration of the convid narrative to me.
measles, just another word for red spots, sixth disease, etc, but sounding a lot scarier than red spots, etc
it’s the same with SARS-CoV-2, which sounds a lot scarier than sniffle, yet it’s the same.
would people ever get tired of this playbook?
We were already tired of it even before
‘covid.’
As in ‘viruses do not exist.’ So no need to go banging on about them.
The ‘physical’ body tells you stuff it wants you to understand through symptoms. Ignore them at your peril. WE are and have been under attack/poisoned/messed around with for a hundred years and its only got WORSE in the last decades.
When Trump was campaigning in 2016 he promised what they now call the “digital border wall”, *The actual digital border wall fence is 100 miles and that includes the people on the other side (non migrants) and we saw how quickly during Bs19 that travelling and movement was restricted, *Ryan Christian and Whitney Webb been covering this Texas psyop thing recently… Which brings me to the Brexit psyop which now makes the U.K the first country in Europe which means leaving the U.K to visit or stay in any E,U country or to work, you now get 3 months max then have to leave. 10 minutes later, the same people are screaming 15 minutes cities. zZZ The next generation of Britain’s will not be able to visit the E.U for longer than a month if that, within that generation they will be so angry towards the repeated migrant psyop and just like Brexit… Read more »
Britain has done trouble enough overseas. Stay home for a while will you? Pls, thank you soo very much. Tony Blair back home!
Has the measles virus ever been shown to exist?
https://telegra.ph/What-is-a-scientific-fact-A-small-case-study-The-measles-process-10-06
It’s not a Left – Right issue. In US or anywhere else. All media is owned by the elite. The Elite are Communists?! FFSake.
‘Ronald McDonald is a communist.’ Poland: ‘Hitler is our friend’. Etc.. Parrots like you are the reason the ruling class is able to enslave us with ease.
The ‘peer reviewed’ scam:
https://www.winterwatch.net/2024/03/peer-review-fraud-corrupts-scientific-literature/
“It’s a private club and we ain’t in it”
lulz how many 33’s
Lol. It was easy to hide all the masonic references in music and entertainment, or the BuyBull before DARPA-net. I had the CD “connected” way back in the day.
Something for everyone. Just pick-a-side, any will do, the controllers care not which, just so long as they can hammer home their pre-determined solution(s). It is the usual – Problem, Reaction, Solution. Now, it seems that two solutions have been presented after observing some (public) reaction. Anyone with a milligram of common sense should know that digital ID’s will not stop illegal immigration. If passports and other forms of ID do not stop it, how will digital ID’s? The illegals will not need digital ID’s nor be asked for details even if they did. The NGO’s and people traffickers will ensure they have right of passage and anything to the contrary will contravene their human rights. People have been known to board planes in their home countries and arrive in Europe seeking asylum (Dublin aiport being a favourite) and claim to have lost their passport en-route. Why risk a rough… Read more »
Why are forgotten diseases, dangerous or not, making a comeback?
-. Pathogens pervade the environment and even our bodies; in a healthy person, they are harmless
-. The gifts of progress – poisonous environments, products, food, medicine, water, etc., and degraded food – undermine health but serve capital
-. The covid jab wrecked health in multiple ways, including immunity; there is a coordinated effort to deflect from this outrage.
Diseases making a comeback? I doubt they are. The parasites in charge are making the whole thing up.
Yes. Hence trans people (deflection). The human species is so utterly pathetic that I pray for an asteroid.
We’ll miss you here at OG!
Black death is coming back, and all Small Pox will be spread through free charity blankets giving to all the vulnerable and innocents by the do-gooders.
These deceases alone will erase 1/3 of humanity of those who believed in love and those who hoped that somebody cared for them…………LOL. They hoped you would care.
Meanwhile the mysterious celeb death syndrome reaches a new phase. Sky News tell us that actor Michael Culver has died but only mention his death IN THE HEADLINE ALONE. The entire article simply recounts Culver’s career!
If you prescribe it, they will come…